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== Requests for assistance ==
== Requests for assistance ==
* [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vapmachado#Updated_request_for_assistance Updated request for assistance] [[User:Vapmachado|Vapmachado]] 19:55, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
* [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2009-June/052376.html are there enough resources to correct the course?] [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Vapmachado Virgilio A. P. Machado], Fri Jun 5 17:16:24 UTC 2009
** [...] this state of affairs in the Portuguese Wikipedia cannot be tolerated, condoned and supported by the resources of the Wikimedia Foundation, generously provided by volunteers and donors keen on improving the general knowledge and welfare of humankind and not the misguidance of a group that actively or with their silence have taken over the Portuguese Wikipedia. Swift and drastic measures need to be taken to stop this.<br />I believe that as a consequence of the self management of the [Portuguese Wikipedia], it is now being operated and run on a daily basis by a group of people with severe mental, emotional, and behavioral problems, completely out of control and without any kind of supervision and/or regulation. This has been corroborated by several pt-wikipedians. In an attempt to gather a sample of their statements, a non-exhaustive collection was made ([http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio:Vapmachado/Adeus_Wikip%C3%A9dia]). It was voted for deletion ([http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:P%C3%A1ginas_para_eliminar/Usu%C3%A1rio:Vapmachado/Adeus_Wikip%C3%A9dia]) with arguments from both sides that are outright embarrassing. Maintaining the page won by four votes. [See also [http://human-rights-in-cyberspace.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Portuguese_Wikipedia_governance_issues#Adeus_Wikip.C3.A9dia_II]]<br />This voting is just one of many examples of rampant disrespect for the five pillars, occurring, unchallenged, on a regular basis on the Portuguese Wikipedia. Mobbing is practiced matter of factly, and promoted openly on discussion pages. Just for your information, please be aware that I was already harassed on the Portuguese Wikipedia ([http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Esplanada/Arquivo/2009/Maio#Vapmachado_resmungando_na_lista_de_discuss.C3.A3o_da_Wikimedia_Foundation]) for bringing up this subject on "foundation-l." I was under the threat of banishment ([http://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usu%C3%A1rio_Discuss%C3%A3o:Vapmachado&oldid=19531470#Aviso_2]) from the pages where this harassment takes place, by the same administrator bureaucrat and member of the of arbitration committee mentioned [...]. When I questioned the voting for violating that Wikipedia is free content, I ended up blocked for six days ([http://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usu%C3%A1rio_Discuss%C3%A3o:Vapmachado&oldid=19531470#Bloqueio_2]).<br />I don't think that analysis of much of the goings on in the pt:wiki by competent professionals would give it a clean bill of mental health. It's a crazy world, I know, but the project is of an encyclopedia, not a crazypedia (forgive my hyperbole.) "Pero si muove." Certainly, it does, but at what cost, it is my turn to ask. Is it really as impossible to bring a project like this under control, once it gets spinning on its own axis, as it is to stop the Earth from moving? Or are there enough resources to correct the course?
* [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-November/062378.html I believe I need some serious help] [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Vapmachado Virgilio A. P. Machado] Fri Nov 12 23:16:56 UTC 2010
** [...] There is an almost systematic interference by «[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pt:Usu%C3%A1rio:Yanguas Yanguas]», a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pt:Wikip%C3%A9dia:P%C3%A1gina_principal wiki.pt] administrator, with the user pages of the students listed on these two pages (further details available): "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pt:Usu%C3%A1rio:Vapmachado/Log%C3%ADstica_2008/Trabalhos_conclu%C3%ADdos Logística 2008/Trabalhos concluídos]" and "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pt:Usu%C3%A1rio:Vapmachado/Log%C3%ADstica_2009/Trabalhos_conclu%C3%ADdos Logística 2009/Trabalhos concluídos]" besides my own [http://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usu%C3%A1rio:Vapmachado&diff=19532251&oldid=19375493 user page]. I would like to know if there is someone willing and able to help with this situation.
* [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-December/062845.html deafening silence], [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Vapmachado Virgilio A. P. Machado], Mon Dec 6 23:41:28 UTC 2010
** What a timely post.[http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-December/062844.html] What an opportunity to test the Santa Claus hierarchical structure.[http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-December/062818.html]<br />I do feel your pain, but given my extensive experience of bring up all sorts of shenanigans to the attention of this list and meeting the most deafening silence, I'm taking bets on what kind of response you going to get here or anywhere else, including where it would matter most: Commons. The house, as always, has an advantage: it has been already more then three hours since you posted your message and the response has been an overwhelming zero.<br />If you do succeed in bringing any change to Commons through this request of yours, I will follow with a similar one of my own concerning the Brazilian Wikipedia, whose de facto "president" has recently delivered a speech that includes some well oiled quotes like "I'm not a crook."[http://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Pedidos_de_opini%C3%A3o/Pedido_de_interven%C3%A7%C3%A3o&diff=prev&oldid=22174526#Ruy_Pugliesi]<br />Actually the place is falling apart from rot: no bureaucrats, no checkusers, and an arbcom which is the epitome of fairness and due procedure, and now under the spell of a steward that lay in waiting for his time to take over. All of you that are believers join me in prayer for the salvation of that project, although I think that is not going to be enough. Things are going to get a lot worse, before they have a chance to get better, if ever.<br />Best of luck to you too, Carolina.[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brazil_Catalyst_Project/Barry_Newstead_Announcement]
* [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards%27_noticeboard/Archives/2011-01#Request_to_undelete Request to undelete], [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Vapmachado Virgilio A. P. Machado]
** Please undo all deletions made within the scope of the following log: [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Sir+Lestaty+de+Lioncourt&page=User%3ASir+Lestaty+de+Lioncourt%40ptwiki&month=4&year=2010]. Thank you so very much. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Vapmachado Vapmachado] 00:02, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />'''Background'''<br />Unaware of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/meta:User:Kylu/Essay essay] published in August, 2007, a RfC was open, in late July of 2010, on what is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/meta:Requests_for_comment/Public_or_non-public_personal_information public or non-public personal information]. The RfC was announced on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/meta:Talk:Oversight#Public_or_non-public_personal_information Oversight talk page]. There are comments on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/meta:Talk:Requests_for_comment/Public_or_non-public_personal_information RfC talk page] and "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/meta:Talk:Oversight#Public_or_non-public_personal_information an anonymized, yet exact copy of the user subpage on pt.wiki to make the discussion possible]." There was also a questioning of the use of Oversight, on it's own talk page, about "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/meta:Talk:Oversight#Removing_private_information.2C_that_users_published_themselves.3F Removing private information, that users published themselves?]" The RfC was closed Sept. 19, as announced on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/meta:Meta:Babel/Archives/2010-09#Requests_for_comment.2FPublic_or_non-public_personal_information Meta:Babel]. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/meta:User:Vapmachado Vapmachado] 20:42, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
* [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-January/063351.html Request for assistance] [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Vapmachado Virgilio A. P. Machado] Wed Jan 5 19:15:37 UTC 2011
* [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vapmachado#Updated_request_for_assistance Updated request for assistance] [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Vapmachado Virgilio A. P. Machado] 19:55, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
** Please let me know:
** Please let me know:
::a) why my request for unblock was never answered,
::a) why my request for unblock was never answered,
::e) towards what or whom is that "continued hostile behavior,"
::e) towards what or whom is that "continued hostile behavior,"
::f) why my "interesting history" of "cross-wiki" pioneering achievements is never mentioned, a clear violation of a NPOV in decision making.
::f) why my "interesting history" of "cross-wiki" pioneering achievements is never mentioned, a clear violation of a NPOV in decision making.
* [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-January/063351.html Request for assistance] [[User:Vapmachado|Vapmachado]] Wed Jan 5 19:15:37 UTC 2011
* [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-April/065123.html Please give us some links...]
* [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-November/062378.html I believe I need some serious help] [[User:Vapmachado|Vapmachado]] Fri Nov 12 23:16:56 UTC 2010
** Fred Bauder<br />Sat, 9 Apr 2011 18:47:56<br />Was there an arbitration case? Or other dispute resolution events? If so, could you share your reactions to the fairness and comprehensiveness of what happened? Please give us some links...<br />Fred
** [...] There is an almost systematic interference by «[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pt:Usu%C3%A1rio:Yanguas Yanguas]», a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pt:Wikip%C3%A9dia:P%C3%A1gina_principal wiki.pt] administrator, with the user pages of the students listed on these two pages (further details available): "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pt:Usu%C3%A1rio:Vapmachado/Log%C3%ADstica_2008/Trabalhos_conclu%C3%ADdos Logística 2008/Trabalhos concluídos]" and "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pt:Usu%C3%A1rio:Vapmachado/Log%C3%ADstica_2009/Trabalhos_conclu%C3%ADdos Logística 2009/Trabalhos concluídos]" besides my own [http://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usu%C3%A1rio:Vapmachado&diff=19532251&oldid=19375493 user page]. I would like to know if there is someone willing and able to help with this situation.
** Virgilio A. P. Machado<br />Sun, 10 Apr 2011 05:37:44<br />What is the purpose of all those questions? I've always provided that information to this list and if anything ever come out of it, besides being scolded by the list masters for making off-list posts, was to gain a new following of admirers.<br />Sincerely,<br />Virgilio A. P. Machado
** Fred Bauder<br />Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:57:49<br />The reason to ask is because if there is a problem we might be able to resolve it. At this point I don't know what your problem was or is. You seem to be nursing a grievance; trying to milk it rather than solving it.<br />I'm sorry if I've not paid perfect attention, but I don't think I've got the tone wrong.<br />Fred
** Virgilio A. P. Machado<br />Mon, 11 Apr 2011 03:36:10<br />Of course there are problems, some of them in plain English. Is anybody on this list able to do anything about them? I'm sure there is. That is why I have posted here so many times asking for help. Have I received any help? None whatsoever.<br />It's kind of hard to believe that any assiduous member of this list is totally unaware of my "Request for assistance" posted Jan. 5. That's already more than three months ago. Have I seen any results? You bet. You can see by yourself looking at my Meta talk page from http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vapmachado#Block all the way down to the declining of my request to unblock "with an expiry time of infinite", on Jan. 16.<br />Am I nursing a grievance? You bet I am. For three months and still counting. Will I ever forgive? There's nothing to forgive. Will I ever forget? Never. I can assure you that is not in my nature. Once someone gets on my ignore mode it stays there until chickens grow teeth.<br />Am I trying to milk it? There's nothing to milk. I'm not sure of the exact meaning in which that expression was used, but anyway I look at it, it does not seem very relevant. Nevertheless you can bet that I believe that one day the chickens will come home to roost.<br />Except for overlooking a bunch of my previous requests for help, including the one above, it seems you were paying perfect attention and you got my tone wright: "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore! I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about Meta, the Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!'<br />Sincerely,<br />Virgilio A. P. Machado (Vapmachado)
== "You're an idiot" ==
== "You're an idiot" ==
