User talk:Centiare

Centiare

testing message Karl Nagel 09:40, 3 November 2006 (PST)

Income formatting in the Infobox

Karl, please take a look at this question. --MyWikiBiz 13:10, 15 November 2006 (PST)

Overall "Standards & Rules"

Karl, I have examined the site pretty carefully today, and I am seeing as a result of that the following "priority" issues that we should address as quickly as possible (before much more content is added):

We need to devise final Infobox Standards for the following entities:

• Public for-profit corporations
• Private for-profit firms (which may be satisfied above)
• Non-profit entities
• Human beings (whether they are business officers, celebrities, artists, or job-seekers)

I think the for-profit infobox_company works equally well for either public or private firms. There's only a few major sections that need data elements - public information is merely a subset within certain sections. All one needs to do for private firm is eliminate unnecessary data references within those respective sections.--Centiare 14:05, 15 November 2006 (PST)

In terms of other info_boxes, the sky really is the limit. As I indicated to you, the Directory potential is much greater than just operating enterprises and/or individuals. For example, with the semantic tagging components, there's nothing stopping anyone from creating a Lexis/Nexis facility, or any other type of database application.

That being said, it would be quite exhausting to try and create every type of infobox one might conceivably need. I'd rather try and harness the wiki open collaboration model to encourage others to help design & publish infoboxes. They should be subject to the same review stds as WP before they are release to the general public. --Centiare 14:18, 15 November 2006 (PST)

I agree with you in principle. I just think to get a really good headstart on populating this database with the information of "interested first adopters", they should have at least the three basic Infoboxes to choose from -- (A) For-profit corporations, (B) Non-profits, and (C) Human beings. If these are pretty well designed from the get-go, then that minimizes the likelihood of massive re-formatting by all our active members at some point down the road. If I knew how to create a Box format from scratch, I would be happy to do it, but currently I don't. Should that be my next self-improvement task?

For example, for "Human beings", I think it would be appropriate to have Birthplace, Birthdate, Marital status, Children, NAICS code of primary occupation, Standard Occupational Code, Employer, Residence location (at least city, maybe street address), Copyrighted works, Skills, and Hobbies. --MyWikiBiz 19:14, 15 November 2006 (PST)

And I think we need to devise Rules of Style for:

• Names of human beings (am I Greg Kohs, Gregory Kohs, Gregory J. Kohs, or Gregory James Kohs?)
• Names of companies (is it International Business Machines Corporation, International Business Machines Corp., IBM Corporation, IBM Corp., or IBM?)
• Occupational titles (the semantic search is really thrown off when someone might be "CEO", "Chairman", and/or "CEO and Chairman" (or, "Chairman and CEO"; or, "CEO & Chairman" with an ampersand))

Without establishing early and firmly some rigid and comprehensive structures that work well, we're going to be facing potentially massive re-formatting in three months' time, updating the work of many, many different visitors/owners. --MyWikiBiz 13:41, 15 November 2006 (PST)

Agreed. With regards to IBM, et al, this is a good example of the need for redirects. (It's also the reason why the info box has a "legal name" element as well eg Karl Nagel & Co. vs Karl Nagel & Co., LLC.)

In reference to names/titles, if they don't have their own page/article or they're not captured as a data element, then I don't see the need for consistency. That is, if foo uses CEO and bar uses Pres & CEO, who cares?

See IBM key people as an example. Now, if titles were being captured, it would be another story. --Centiare 14:05, 15 November 2006 (PST)

DOH! We are tracking titles. However, since they are subjective, there's no good way of enforcing consistency. From a search & reporting standpoint, one merely has to search on key_person1, 2, etc. regardless of the respective titles to get a listing of who are key people. (That is, click on the mag glass & eliminate the person's name - you'll get all key_people1, 2, etc.) Again, see IBM as an example of this facility. --Centiare 14:12, 15 November 2006 (PST)

Corporate logos

I tried to upload the IBM corporate logo (copied from Wikipedia -- let them sort out the copyright issues), but the Centiare server said that .PNG was an invalid format. Do you have any comments about how/whether/why/what we should do about corporate logos and other images? --MyWikiBiz 13:49, 15 November 2006 (PST)

My hosting guru is working on it as we speak. It should be fixed by tomorrow, then we can start uploading different files (jpg, pdf, doc, xls, ppt). This is one of the open issues I mentioned last week. --Centiare 14:09, 15 November 2006 (PST)