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--- Log opened Sun Sep 02 15:51:41 2012
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15:51 < Peter-C> How does one cite specific pages of a book?
15:52 < Peter-C> Wait, screw it, I will just cite the whole chapter
15:52 < mysterytrey> BarkingFish: Explain "each room in the house takes care of the communal bits of the place for a week."
15:52 < mysterytrey> I don't quite get it.
15:52 < BarkingFish> ok - you have 4 rooms in the house - each is a bedsit with the rest of the place being communal, kitchen, shower, bathroom, etc
15:53 < BarkingFish> on the first week - room 1 cleans the kitchen, shower, bathroom and kitchen, and the stairs, every day for the week.
15:53 < BarkingFish> the following week, room 2 does the same, then room 3, room 4 etc
15:53 < BarkingFish> then it loops and starts again
15:53 < Philadelphia> MLB is brought to you by... Viagra? http://s0.2mdn.net/764710/v4.jpg
15:54 < Philadelphia> o_O
15:54 < BarkingFish> *room 1 cleans the kitchen, shower, bathroom and communal areas, and the stairs...
15:54 < BarkingFish> sorry - i wasn't paying attention :)
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15:57 < Peter-C> Philadelphia - O-o
15:57 < Philadelphia> it's on http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/scoreboard/index.jsp
15:57 < Peter-C> Baseball is an american pastime
15:57 < Peter-C> Like sex
15:58 < mysterytrey> Baseball /is/ sex.
15:58 < Ironholds> ...it's so not. sex is fun.
15:58 < Peter-C> gtfo Ironholds
15:58 < Ironholds> and most people don't get paid to engage in it, and we look down on those who do.
15:58 < Peter-C> Go play some football
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15:58 < Ironholds> I don't play football
15:59 < Ironholds> I consider almost all sports a singular waste of time.
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15:59 < Peter-C> :o
15:59 < Peter-C> Except... tennis?
15:59 < Peter-C> Squash?
15:59 < Peter-C> I can see you playing squash.
15:59 < mysterytrey> [18:58:52] <Ironholds> and most people don't get paid to engage in it, and we look down on those who do.
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16:00 < Ironholds> Peter-C: shooting is fun. Swimming.
16:01 < Peter-C> Ah, shooting.
16:01 < Peter-C> A mans sport. Sadly I have gun laws where I am. Very very strict ones.
16:01 < Peter-C> They do not allow you to have a gun if you are a civilian.
16:01 < Peter-C> You also have a max of 15 bullets in a mag even thought you can reload a gun fast...
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16:02 < mysterytrey> 15 bullets is good in a mag.
16:02 < Ironholds> Peter-C: where the fuck ARE you?
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16:02 < Peter-C> New Jersey
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16:02 < Peter-C> mysterytrey - LOL
16:03 < Ironholds> Peter-C: uh. they let civillians have guns in New Jersey
16:03 < Peter-C> Dude. In EVERY other state (except NY) you have no limit
16:03 < Peter-C> Rarly.
16:03 < Ironholds> they don't let lunatics have guns, and told you it was "civilians" to make you feel happy
16:03 < Peter-C> :o
16:03 < Peter-C> I can only get pussy ass pistols
16:03 < Peter-C> :(
16:03 < mysterytrey> Peter-C: Your 16.  Can 16 year olds even /buy/ guns?
16:03 < Peter-C> No
16:03 < Ironholds> *you're
16:03 < Peter-C> But the permit is $1
16:04 < mareklug> they likely don't let 15yo have guns.  well, maybe bb guns
16:04 < Ironholds> Peter-C I have, in New Jersey, fired semi-automatic weaponry
16:04 < Ironholds> so have Fluffernutter, James_F and mindspillage
16:04 < Ironholds> tell me again how civilians aren't allowed guns :)
16:04 < Fluffernutter> quite
16:04 < James_F> In the UK kids can have gun licences.
16:04 < Ironholds> Fluffernutter: that's James_F's line
16:04  * Fluffernutter hands line back to James_F
16:04 < Peter-C> Ironholds - Who was it owned by?
16:04 < Ironholds> James_F: as the saying goes, if only children can have guns, all the guns will be owned by...people acting like children? Wait, that's not it.
16:05 < James_F> ISTR the press getting worked up a couple of years ago about a 12-year-old having a shotgun licence.
16:05 < Ironholds> Peter-C: Fluffernutter's dad.
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16:05 < Peter-C> Fluffernutter - how does your dad have a gun
16:05 < Peter-C> I want one <3
16:05 < Ironholds> Peter-C: he's got like a dozen, dude. Again, they let civilians have guns. They just won't let you have guns, for the SAKE of the civilians
16:05 < Fluffernutter> what do you mean how? he got a license and gave a gun seller money
16:06 < Ironholds> Fluffernutter: Peter-C is convinced that in NJ, only the armed forces can possess firepower
16:06 < Peter-C> The internet lied to me.
16:06 < Fluffernutter> Peter-C is thoroughly incorrect
16:06 < Ironholds> he is both (a) clearly unaware of the existence of the second amendment and (b) a dult.
16:06 < Ironholds> *dolt
16:06 < Fluffernutter> even my mom owns a .38 revolver (oh, republican family...)
16:07 < Peter-C> I heard they only gave gun licenses to cops and security personel as a policy
16:07 < Peter-C> Because anyone else has no “valid” reason
16:07 < mysterytrey> Democrat/Republicans (switch in your preference) have a magical ability to take away amendments.
16:07 < mysterytrey> Peter-C: That sounds like an opinion.
16:07 < Fluffernutter> you are quite incorrect. It's not *easy* to get a license, and it takes an annoyingly long time (I think it took my mom 6 months or a year), but it's quite possible to do so
16:08 < Peter-C> ^
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16:08 < Peter-C> I wish the NRA came to save the day
16:08 < Peter-C> :3
16:08 < Peter-C> Screw it. I am contacting the NRA.
16:09 < Ironholds> Peter-C: you're thinking about CCP
16:09 < mareklug> Peter-C:  this form http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sts-033.pdf   although I don't see an age thing on it
16:09 < Ironholds> *CCPs
16:09 < Ironholds> NJ is a may-issue state
16:09 < Ironholds> they require you to have a damn good reason to own a CCP, such as "I work in law enforcement"
16:09 < Peter-C> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
16:10  * Ironholds slaps Peter-C
16:10 < Ironholds> owning a gun != being allowed to keep it up your wrist
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16:10 < Peter-C> I heard it was *easy* to get a CCP license in Jersey only because they didn’t allows non civs to get one :/
16:10  * Ironholds sighs
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16:11 < mysterytrey> How would that make it easy?
16:12 < Espreon> Hello. I feel as though there should be a disaumbiguation page for "eoh" because of the rune known as "eoh".
16:12 < mareklug> "(21) Do you suffer from a physical defect or disease?"  Yes, I am compelled to edit Wikipedia
16:12 < Peter-C> ^
16:12 < Fluffernutter> surely that's a mental defect, mareklug
16:12 < Espreon> And yes, I'm too lazy to refile it under "eihwaz" in my mind.
16:12 < mareklug> Fluffernutter:  if it results in saved edit hitory, that's a physical manifestation
16:13 < BarkingFish> Espreon, anyone is allowed to edit wikipedia. If you feel that it should be a disambig, or eoh should redirect to eihwaz, feel free. We're not gonna stop you :)
16:13 < Espreon> Very well.
16:13 < BarkingFish> [[WP:BOLD]]
16:14 < Espreon> Espreon:Meek
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16:14 < mysterytrey> mareklug: Unless you feel a physical need to edit, I would say no.  So unless your wrist make's you do it, rather than your brain, it is mental manifestation.
16:15 < mysterytrey> **makes
16:15 < Peter-C> NRA <3
16:15 < Soapy> eoh is old English for horse
16:15 < mareklug> Peter-C:  do you feel a physical need to edit Wikipedia?
16:15 < Soapy> what else does it mean?
16:16 < Espreon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eihwaz
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16:20 < Espreon> And done.
16:20 < Soapy> well OK
16:20 < Espreon> Whoops...
16:20 < Soapy> but you created the page at [[EOH]] (capitalized)
16:21 < Soapy> we still have [[Eoh]]
16:21 < Espreon> I didn't create a page.
16:21 < Espreon> I simply changed the redirect page to a disambiguation page.
16:21 < Espreon> Nonetheless, I did something a bit wrong.
16:21 < Soapy> ok
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16:22 < Soapy> i'll let you be, then
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16:22 < Espreon> Soapy: Shall I have it be at [[Eoh]] and have [[EOH]] redirect to [[Eoh]]?
16:23 < Soapy> i would say [[Eoh]] should just redirect to Eihwaz, EOH should redirect to the airport, and no dab page
16:23 < Soapy> but if you think there is confusion then you can make a dab page
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16:24 < Soapy> even without a dab page you can always put headers on the top of a page to let readers know there is anothermeaning
16:25 < Espreon> All right.
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16:25 < Soapy> oddly enough, more people view [[Eihwaz]] than the airport
16:25 < Soapy> I guess runes are more popular than I realized
16:25 < Soapy> so Eihwaz is technically the primary meaning
16:26 < Espreon> All right.
16:26 < Espreon> Thank you very much.
16:27 < BarkingFish> Soapy, I'd imagine the rune articles get so much footfall because of the number of people who still read the Hobbit.
16:28 < BarkingFish> LOL!  I have a joke for you.  And this one (I hope) ain't as bad as some of my others...
16:28 < Soapy> ok
16:28 < Soapy> is this just a rune/ruin pun?
16:28 < Soapy> if so Im *ruining* it now
16:29 < BarkingFish> A guy comes home from the store one day, and says to his wife "Darling, what would you say if I told you'd won the lottery?"
16:29 < BarkingFish> His wife's eyes light up - "I'd say I'd divorce your sorry ass, take half, and never look back."
16:29 < BlackBeast> hello
16:29 < BlackBeast> hi BarkingFish
16:29 < BlackBeast> hi Soapy
16:30 < BarkingFish> "Good" says her husband. "I won $10. Here's $5, pack your shit up and fuck off!"
16:30 < Soapy> hi
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16:30 < BarkingFish> hi BlackBeast
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16:32 < Logan_> Hola BlackBeast. :)
16:33 < BlackBeast> :)
16:33 < BlackBeast> hi Logan como estás?
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16:40 < LtNOWIS> WP:ITN/C is pretty breathtakingly non-neutral
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16:44 < BarkingFish> What do you think is so non neutral about it?
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16:44 < BarkingFish> The story about the hurricane, the president or the islamist militia?
16:48 < LtNOWIS> all the rationales
16:48 < LtNOWIS> Like, "Support This should actually be a sticky, since it is the subversion of a secular muslim state by right wing fascist goons."
16:48 < LtNOWIS> So like, the subversion of an Islamic state by centrist fascist goons is not notable?
16:48 < LtNOWIS> Sorry Balochistan...
16:52 < BarkingFish> "A priest who kept a rooster in the backyard of his house, awoke one morning to find it missing.  As it was a sunday, he'd not got time to go looking.  Instead, at mass, he put out a request - "Has anyone got a cock?", and all the men stood up.
16:53 < Soapy> too predictable
16:53 < BarkingFish> "No, I meant has anyone seen a cock?" he asked again... This time all the women stood up.
16:53 < Soapy> oh
16:53 < Soapy> well still
16:53 < BarkingFish> "Has anyone seen MY COCK?" he asked - and all the choirboys stood up :)
16:53 < Soapy> ok
16:53 < Soapy> *still*
16:53 < Soapy> predictable
16:54 < Soapy> any joke with priests in it ends with choirboys
16:54 < BarkingFish> except the one about the priest, the imam and the rabbi...
16:54 < Soapy> but  i was wrong with thinking you were finished
16:54 < Soapy> yeah
16:54 < BarkingFish> They all walk into a bar, and the barman says "What is this? The start of a joke or something?"
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17:01 < Ironholds> AGH. LECTURER JUST CITED WITGENSTEIN. ABORT. ABORT.
17:04 < Soapy> *Wittgenstein
17:05 < mareklug> "It seems to me as good as certain that we cannot get the upper hand against England. The English — the best race in the world — cannot lose! We, however, can lose and shall lose, if not this year then next year. The thought that our race is going to be beaten depresses me terribly, because I am completely German."  - Ludwig Wittgenstein :)
17:05 < Peter-C> NJ HAS SHIT GUN LAWS
17:05 < Peter-C> Ironholds - come here please
17:05 < Peter-C> Lawyer them
17:05 < Ironholds> not for your bloody sake
17:05 < Lubaf> Ironholds: The guy "who was just as sloshed as Schlegel"?
17:05 < Ironholds> Lubaf: indeed
17:05 < Peter-C> You cannot transport a gun except between residences and between a residence and the gun range
17:06 < Peter-C> da faq is with that
17:06 < Lubaf> If anybody's heard of him nowdays, it's probably from that.
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17:13 < mysterytrey> Hah: (diff | hist) . . Template:Centralized discussion‎; 14:16 . . (+132)‎ . . ‎Ironholds (talk | contribs)‎ (thank you for removing an entry)
17:13 < Ironholds> mysterytrey: glad to be amusinf
17:13 < BarkingFish> Good god alive.  Peter-C - how would you cope with this as a live trauma?  Patient with foot trapped upside down under crushed dash and engine of his car for almost an hour, wound up being amputated...  NSFW, Seriously... http://i.imgur.com/Vu4JZ.jpg
17:13 < mysterytrey> Yeah.
17:14 < mysterytrey> Your sarcasm usually brightens up my day.
17:14 < Ironholds> BarkingFish: is that a bone?
17:14 < Ironholds> that's not even a foot any more
17:14 < Ironholds> that's some toes and a bit of scaffolding
17:14 < Peter-C> Looks like ligaments.
17:14 < BarkingFish> yeah, pretty much.
17:14 < BarkingFish> The toes and the ankle were the only intact remnants of that, Ironholds
17:15 < Peter-C> Ow.
17:15 < Peter-C> 10 of morphine just by looking at that
17:15 < BarkingFish> rest was degloved to the point of open viewing
17:16 < BarkingFish> ya see, he was the right way up, his leg was the right way up, just his foot wasn't - so you can imagine the damage to the ankle straight away
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17:20 < Peter-C> http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/08/servers-too-hot-intel-recommends-a-luxurious-oil-bath/
17:20 < Jasper_Deng_sick> lol
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17:29 < BarkingFish> ah well, bugger it. I'd better get off to bed, got my medical this morning, don't wanna miss it :)
17:29 < BarkingFish> night all.
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17:32 < Soapy> "Green Revolution recommends an oil change every decade."
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17:37 < mareklug> semi-major upset: Marion Bartoli ousts Petra Kvitova (seed nr 5) at the US Open in 3 sets, last one 6-0.
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17:59 < Ironholds> 94 percent. booya.
18:00 < Soapy> whoa
18:00 < Soapy> the twinkle templates have changed
18:00 < Soapy> Hello, I'm Soap. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions to kumon because it didn't appear constructive. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! ☮Soap☮ 00:55, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
18:00 < Soapy> Really, guys ???
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18:01 < Soapy> I mean Im all in favor of being soft on new users but that seems ridiculous when it's vandalism
18:01 < Fluffernutter> Ironholds, got a moment to be savage to some of my writing?
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18:02 < Soapy> it changed on July 27
18:02 < Ironholds> Fluffernutter: it's 2am and I'm completely and utterly drunk
18:02 < Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Uw-vandalism1&diff=504485167&oldid=490785876
18:02 < Ironholds> Soapy: yes. We did A/B testing and found this is more effective
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18:02 < Fluffernutter> heh
18:02 < Ironholds> people are far more likely to either (a) reform or (b) go fuck off
18:02 < Ironholds> would you like me to drag up the research?
18:02 < Fluffernutter> i'll take that as "oh, tomorrow I certainly will, but currently I'd tell you to add "penis!" to every paragraph"
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18:03 < Ironholds> ...okay, I can't find it
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18:04 < Soapy> oh no Im not doubting that
18:04 < Soapy> I found the RFC and everything
18:04 < Soapy> but Im not going to use the Level 1 templates for blatant vandalism anymore
18:05 < Soapy> which should be fine, because some people never did
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18:10 < MuZemike> That's why I generally don't warn until after they have done it a couple of times in a row.
18:11 < Ironholds> MuZemike: that's rather silly
18:11 < Ironholds> if you warn them after they've done it once you give them an opportunity to be slapped on the wrist and not do it a second time
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18:11 < Ironholds> which (if it works) reduces your workload
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18:12 < MrVernon> Can someone help out on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_O%27Shea?  An IP is adding, well, every issue tag there is to this page and hasn't given a reason.
18:13 < MrVernon> i'd revert but it's not clear-cut vandalism and I'd be at 3RR.
18:13 < MuZemike> WTF?
18:13 < MuZemike> No, that's clearly overload.
18:13 < MrVernon> most of them don't make any sense. lead-in issues?  article about multiple topics?  really?
18:14 < MrVernon> spam?
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18:15 < MrVernon> thanks, MuZemike
18:16 < Tony_Sidaway> He'll probably get bored and wander off if you just leave him to it.
18:17 < MuZemike> No, I think he'll continue until he gets blocked for disruption.
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18:17 < MuZemike> Many over-obsessive people tend to persist like that.
18:17 < Tony_Sidaway> How can he continue if you don't revert?
18:17 < MrVernon> he also just used the article talk page to complain about me reverting without using the talk page.
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18:18 < MuZemike> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/What_album_is_afroman_fuck_mcdonalds_and_taco_bell_on._You_would_think_that_it_would_be_common_knoledge_and_I_did_google_the_hell_out_of_it_but,_it_appears_that_someone_doesnt_want_this_info_found.&redirect=no&rcid=525874795
18:18 < MrVernon> i say approve
18:18 < Tony_Sidaway> He wants push-back . Deny him that and he's fucked.
18:18 < Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rick_O%27Shea&oldid=510515111  <--- that was probably taken from a WP:LAME diff
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18:19 < Soapy> where someone else did the same thing
18:19 < Soapy> I mean look at the time stamps
18:19 < Soapy> theyre all May 2008
18:20 < MuZemike> He probably copied each and every one of them.
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18:23 < Tony_Sidaway> Reminds me of the Rowan Atkinson character who, in a comedy sketch, walks into a designer bathroom store and proceeds to add a score of toilets to his design. The sheer quantity is surreal.
18:23 < MuZemike> Any reason why WP:ANI is over 500KB long?
18:23 < MuZemike> ...and almost 55 threads?
18:23 < Soapy> ytheres such a thing as a "designer bathroom store" ?
18:23 < Soapy> oooh check out the 2012 models of power-flush toilets
18:24 < Soapy> this one can do 5.5 Liters per flush!!
18:24 < MuZemike> Wasteful
18:24 < Tony_Sidaway> In the sketch, yes. Or rather, "design your own bathroom", with little model fittings and everything.
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18:25 < Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_O%27Shea kind of looks like me
18:25 < Soapy> though hes already starting to show gray hair
18:26 < Soapy> but yeah that could be me
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18:27 -!- You're now known as poko
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18:28 < Soapy> look, the page includes this:
18:28 < Soapy> In January 2011, he ranted on air about the lack of information on his Wikipedia page. Wikipedia has since worked its socks off to produce more data to satisfy Rick's ever-increasing needs but has been unsuccessful due to lack of information in the public domain.
18:29 < Tony_Sidaway> It's weird writing in Conservapedia. I keep adding embarrassing stuff about the Todd Akin affair, but Schlafly doesn't object, possibly because his view of reality is so skewed he thinks it's _good_.
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18:30 < Soapy> are you Wschact?
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18:31 < Tony_Sidaway> There's this huge list of conservative people who say good/bad things about Akin, and it's now embarrassingly long.
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18:32 < Tony_Sidaway> Every time I add a name, Schlafly runs off and finds more.
18:33 < harej> what's the general ratio of good to bad?
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18:33 < Cyrax> Please: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback#User:Cyrax_Cyborg
18:34 < Soapy> cyrax: images in your sig is a no-no
18:34 < Tony_Sidaway> About 60/40 bad/good, I think.
18:34 < Tony_Sidaway> I'm TonySidaway on Conservapedia.
18:34 < Soapy> maybe its OK on es.wikipedia, but not here
18:34 < Cyrax> Soapy, yes yes wait
18:35 < Tony_Sidaway> It's outlawed now? Glad to hear it.
18:36 < Soapy> oh ok
18:36 < Soapy> so youre editing [[RINO backers]], not [[Todd Akin]]
18:36 < MuZemike> Conservapedia: The free encyclopedia anyone can vandalize :)
18:36 < Soapy> [[RINO backers]] is just basically about Todd Akin
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18:37 < Tony_Sidaway> If I were the developer of MediaWiki I'd turn custom signatures into a feature the site owner has to deliberately turn on. They're a pestilential nuisance.
18:37 < Soapy> its basically just Huckabee and Gingrich on the "good" side
18:38 < Soapy> and Buchanan
18:38 < Soapy> those are the only three high-profile names on the list
18:39 < Tony_Sidaway> Soapy, yes I edited that article. All the people on the list are influential, nationally known conservatives.
18:40 < Tony_Sidaway> I also started the article about that stupid doctor who promotes the "spastic tubes" theory.
18:40 < Soapy> Spastic tubes
18:41 < Tony_Sidaway> If Schlafly weren't so deluded, he would find this nonsense embarrassing.
18:41 < Soapy> ah
18:41 < Soapy> Spastic tubes are the means by which a rape victim prevents herself from becoming pregnant
18:42  * Peter-C lights things on fire
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18:42 < Soapy> *without* using birth control
18:42 < Soapy> so basically Todd Akin was right all along, and this doctor proved it
18:42 < Tony_Sidaway> Yep, the very same tubes. Nothing to do with the internet.
18:43 < Soapy> All criticisms of Akin are attempts by the liberal media to delude the public into supporting abortion so that more innocent babies can be killed and Obama will win the presidency for another four years
18:43 < Soapy> Thanks for discovering the truth
18:43 < Soapy> Now we know !
18:44 < harej> ¡ !
18:44 < Tony_Sidaway> I think Schlafly may be well on the way to concocting such a rationale.
18:44 < Soapy> hey t hat reminds me
18:44 < Soapy> one of my favorite videos has been deleted from youtube
18:44 < Tony_Sidaway> I am merely providing him with the justification.
18:44 < Soapy> no wonder I havent seen it in a while
18:46 < Tony_Sidaway> If Obama does win, expect to hear more on Akin. Especially if Romney loses and Akin wins!
18:46 < Tony_Sidaway> It'll be like the Tea Party all over again.
18:47 < harej> If both Akin and Obama win, Schlafly will segfault and die.
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18:48 < Tony_Sidaway> He will be in Conservapedia Heaven if that happens. Four years of saying "I told you so!"
18:48 < Soapy> ok i found the video:
18:48 < Soapy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjgOKx-Qq1I&feature=player_embedded
18:48 < Soapy> a bit outdated now, but it was funny in 2004
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18:52 < Tony_Sidaway_> I was just voicing my appreciation for rough gay wolf sex there, but French bible-burning terrorists cut the line.
18:53  * Fluffernutter walks in, looks at that line, turns around, walks out again
18:54  * Isarra yells at some wikipedians.
18:54 < Isarra> Yay I fit in!
18:54 < Tony_Sidaway_> My daughter is the furry of the family.
18:54  * Fluffernutter abuses Isarra for abusing others
18:55 < Peter-C> harej - nice AMA :D
18:55 < Tony_Sidaway_> She had her mother sew her a silver fox tail, once.
18:56 < Fox2k12> lol
18:56 < Fox2k12> wth...
18:56 < Fox2k12> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Ivy <-- O.o
18:56 < Soapy> whoa. breasts
18:56  * Isarra abuses Fluffernutter s friends in retaliation.
18:56 < Fox2k12> "Ivy is very flexible and also works as a yoga instructor and personal c*ck trainer. According to Ivy, her trademark performing position is the pretzel while being penetrated (lol).[2]"
18:56 < Fluffernutter> thos ewould be boobs, Fox2k12
18:56 < Tony_Sidaway_> Some girls want to wear angel wings, mine is the one with the tail.
18:56 < Fox2k12> i did not mean the bobs
18:56 < Fox2k12> i meant the article...
18:57 < Fluffernutter> well, the last bit is vandalism
18:57 < Fox2k12> indeed
18:57 < Soapy> yeah I noticed that after I stopped looking at her breasts
18:57  * Fluffernutter reverts
18:57 < Isarra> I have a tail.
18:57 < Fox2k12> lol
18:57 < Isarra> It s okay.
18:57 < Fox2k12> thx Fluffernutter =)
18:58 < Soapy> she looks more than 23 years old though
18:58 < Soapy> maybe its the makeup
18:58 < Fox2k12> the article lacks of context
18:58 < Fluffernutter> the article probably wouldn't survive AfD
18:58 < Fluffernutter> but meh
18:59 < Fox2k12> yeah
18:59 < Tony_Sidaway_> Isarra tails are cool.
18:59 < Fox2k12> I think the article doesent meet WP:BLP
18:59 < Fox2k12> notability?
19:00 < Fluffernutter> the AVN awards might be something. I'm not up on WP:PORNBIO guidelines, though
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19:01 < Soapy> wb
19:02 < Isarra> Tony_Sidaway_: That depends on the tails.
19:02 < Isarra> Althoug they certainly can be.
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19:03 < Tony_Sidaway> Main problem with porn performers is the multiple names. The biographies are often rather trivial too, and all female performers list their orientation as by bisexual for professional reasons (f-f porn is easier and quicker for an actress to make).
19:04 < Soapy> It is?
19:05 < Tony_Sidaway> A friend of mine had a whole documentary about this she wanted me to watch.
19:05 < Soapy> And theres a signficant number of men who like it
19:05 < Fox2k12> so
19:05 < Fox2k12> that article is a candidate for AFD
19:05 < Tony_Sidaway> Never got around to it. I'm not interested in cock-free sex.
19:05 < Fox2k12> or proposed deletion?
19:06 < Soapy> fox 2012: it would probably survive AfD because of the AVN awards
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19:06 < Soapy> Has won a well-known and significant industry award, or has been nominated for such an award several times. Nominations and awards in scene-related and ensemble categories are excluded from consideration.[11]
19:06 < Soapy> I assume the AVN awards qualify
19:07 < Fox2k12> IMDB is not really a RS
19:07 < Fox2k12> and teh Porn DB neither...
19:07 < Fox2k12> the*
19:07 < lexein> IMDB is user generated. Like most porn these days.
19:07 < Tony_Sidaway> It would probably survive because she's reasonably attractive and she's showing off her fake boobs.
19:07 < Fox2k12> Soapy well i just taged it for the lack of context
19:07 < Fox2k12> lol
19:08 < Fox2k12> tough he is from germany
19:08 < Fox2k12> I never heard of hear
19:08 < Fox2k12> and I'm a dude lol
19:08 < Fluffernutter> ah, wikipedia...the eternal boyzone
19:09 < lexein> Endless September, too, now.
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19:09 < Tony_Sidaway> 4'11" is on the short side, but plausible.
19:10 < Fluffernutter> i know a few grown women that are 4'11. I'm only  a few inches taller than that myself
19:10 < Fox2k12> uhh a blank page
19:10 < Fox2k12> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%ADa_Isabella_Cordero
19:11 < Fox2k12> *sigh*
19:11  * Fluffernutter is sort of bothered by the blank look on her face as she displays her boobs for the photo. Sigh, mainstream porn.
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19:12 < Tony_Sidaway> That blank page is a db-user, implicit.
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19:12 < lexein> I've dated two women who were 5' tall. They were great. I miss 'em.
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19:13 < Tony_Sidaway_> Fluffernutter, most likely the photo is for a fan.
19:14 < Tony_Sidaway_> It's at an industry show, not a shoot.
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19:16 < Soapy> wb
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19:16 < Soapy> not having good luck with youre Internet tonight I see
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19:16 < Simpang^Patung> !ops better not be late for your daily harassement!
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19:16 < ow> yes h...
19:16 < ow> Fluffernutter: beat me to it :(
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19:17  * Fluffernutter is never late, yo
19:17 < Gfoley> mind as well do +r now
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19:17 < texta12> For you Fluffernutter, the fail fat whale!
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19:17 < Fox2k12> how to get rid of the talk & userpages in the Huggle queue Fluffernutter??
19:18 -!- Tony_Sidaway_ [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
19:18 < Fluffernutter> Fox2k12, what do you mean?
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19:19 < Fox2k12> in the queue of Huggle i often have user & talk pages revisons to check on
19:19 < Fox2k12> but i would rather to check on article space only
19:19 < Fluffernutter> i don't know if you can filter those. I don't use most of the more advanced features of huggle. Let me fire it up and see if i spot a way
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19:19 < Fox2k12> ok
19:20 < Tony_Sidaway> That porn actress photo was taken by a guy (or woman) who has a whole Flickr page full of  what look like models and strippers.
19:20 < LtNOWIS|hereish> oh crap did I miss a porn discussion
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19:20 < Isarra> It is okay. There are always others.
19:21 < Fox2k12> LtNOWIS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Ivy <--
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19:21 < Fluffernutter> Fox2k12, go to Queue>manage queues, then the "page title" tab. You can exclude namespaces there
19:21 < LtNOWIS> Hmm, nominee instead of winner is dubious
19:21 < Fox2k12> thx =)
19:22 < LtNOWIS> IAFD is pretty solid though
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19:23 < LtNOWIS> lots of top-tier video companies
19:24 < LtNOWIS> She was in parodies of Two and a Half Men, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and Beverly Hills 90210
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19:25 < Tony_Sidaway> Porn is sort of a touchy subject on Wikipedia. It upsets a lot of people. I once got a mild dressing down by an arbitrator when some weirdo made a point of revealing that I'd once posted a link to a video of three Japanese girls innocently kissing.
19:26 < Tony_Sidaway> This was on a private IRC channel.
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19:29 < Tony_Sidaway> It's one price I think we pay for the mainstreaming of the internet. I gave up doing female about ten years ago because the culture that supported that kind of individual expression had basically been swamped.
19:30 < Fluffernutter> "doing female"?
19:30 < Tony_Sidaway> Fluffernutter, I was an internet drag queen.
19:31 < Fluffernutter> ahh
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19:32 < Tony_Sidaway> You had to be there. ;)
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19:40 < Cyrax> Please block: Jjijijiji
19:40 < Cyrax> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jjijijiji&action=edit&redlink=1
19:41 < Soapy> Popsicles !!
19:41 < Gfoley> Make me.
19:41 < Gfoley> Er, I get right on that!
19:41 < Tony_Sidaway> The Conservapedia site is turning into a billboard for one user's campaign against reality. The relentless message is that everything for academia through the press, via Wikipedia to America itself is suffering terrible problems because of one central cause: failure to accept biblical inerrancy and conservative Christianity.
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19:41 < Fluffernutter> they've only vandalised once. Why do we need an insta-block?
19:41 -!- `freecell [~ola@cpe-069-132-101-028.carolina.res.rr.com] has left #wikipedia-en ["fuck all jews."]
19:41 < Tony_Sidaway> Young Earth Deniers!
19:41 < Gfoley> I normally wait until a level 3 for VOAs
19:41 < Cyrax> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jjijijiji It appears as the name implies, is an account created to vandalize
19:42 < Cyrax> It is also an invalid nick
19:42 < Fluffernutter> The name implies it's a vandal? How?
19:42 < Gfoley> makes that's their nickname.
19:42 < Gfoley> *maybe, argh
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19:43 < Tony_Sidaway> Could be somebody with an inordinate fondness for horses.
19:43 < Cyrax> Fluffernutter	jijijiji is a is a laugh
19:44 < Tony_Sidaway> Ah, a Hispanic j sound.
19:44 < Tony_Sidaway> As in jajajaja
19:45 < Cyrax> It is a deliberately confusing username
19:45 < Gfoley4> ehh
19:45 < Cyrax> And when someone has that kind of nicks
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19:45 < Tony_Sidaway> What harm can he do while we wait and see?
19:45 < Fluffernutter> ^
19:45 < Cyrax> It is only to vandalize
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19:46 < Fluffernutter> if he were posting hate speech or something we'd nail him on the first edit. But with "popsicles!", it's worth waiting to see if he gets the silly out of his system
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19:46 < Gfoley4> Or back to bed.
19:46 < mareklug> Cyrax:  give the chance, it may even grow into a Wikimedia steward
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19:46 < Peter-C> BED
19:46 < Peter-C> Ew
19:47 < Peter-C> da faq
19:47 < Cyrax> mareklug ok but because I always notice that users nick is only to vandalize
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19:48 < Fox2k12> "02:39, 3 September 2012 Dlohcierekim (talk | contribs) blocked Sambasuyetso (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite (Vandalism-only account: deleted aiv report)"
19:48 < Fox2k12> *smirks*
19:48 < Cyrax> as we can see a few minutes
19:48 < Fox2k12> all for Naught...
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19:49 < Tony_Sidaway> Do potential stewards go on to become stewards without encouragement, or do they need a block to nudge them to do better?
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19:51 < MuZemike> OK, going to try this SLAP Frozen Energy for the first time.
19:51 < Fluffernutter> um, yay?
19:51 < Tony_Sidaway> Is it possible to distinguish a potential steward from a potential bureaucrat? Do they differ in the style of vandalism they favour?
19:51 < Snowolf> Wait
19:51 < Snowolf> what?
19:51 < MuZemike> Looks interesting; you're supposed to put it in the freezer and then take it out and drink it slightly after it starts to thaw.
19:51 < Soapy> stewards like popsicles.  Bureaucrats like lollipops
19:52 < Snowolf> I don't like either :S
19:52 < Tony_Sidaway> As any fule kno
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19:52 < Soapy> ice creams !
19:52 < mareklug> Tony_Sidaway:  http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3AKylu  <-- here is a case where a block must have helped the future steward :)
19:52 < Soapy> your name is snowolf, you must love ice cream
19:52 < Fluffernutter> wolves prefer steak
19:53 < Jasper_Deng_away> I thought Snowolf liked meat
19:53 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng_sick
19:53 < Snowolf> Soapy: ice cream is wonderful
19:53 < Shirik> I would assume Snowolf like snowcones
19:53 < Snowolf> Jasper_Deng_sick: nope, I'm vegetarian
19:53 < Fluffernutter> weirdo
19:53 < Tony_Sidaway> All cold drinks taste alike. Give me a pint of real ale at 8 degrees any day.
19:54 < Fluffernutter> MuZemike, sounds like the things i keep seeing pop up in liquor stores - pre-mixed daquiris, etc. Pop them in the freezer, then taker them out and drink the slush
19:54 < MuZemike> It's probably just like that.
19:55 < MuZemike> But without the alcohol
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19:55 < Tony_Sidaway> Freezing can be used instead of distillation as a means of fractionation. I wonder if these premixed drinks exploit that.
19:56 < Soapy> I got a make-your-own-popsicle kit last year
19:56 < MuZemike> Coors Brewing Co exploits that all the time.'
19:56 < Soapy> your poru soda in and then take it out the next day as a popsible
19:57 < Pine> Snowolf: long time no see :) Are you back from vacation?
19:57 < Fluffernutter> soda popsicles? hmm.
19:57 < Tony_Sidaway> Yes, kids, you can make hooch in your home freezer!
19:57 < mareklug> Soapy, that was almost Japanese English
19:57 < Snowolf> Pine: I am :)
19:57 < Pine> Welcome back!
19:57 < Pine> I missed having someone I could ping at strange hours of the night.
19:57 < Soapy> whenever its dark and I dont have the lights oni start making five tyimes as many typos
19:57 < Tony_Sidaway> Popusikuru
19:58 < Fox2k12> hmm
19:58 < Fox2k12>  for this cases there are Iluminated Keyboards Soapy^
19:58 < Fox2k12> ;)
19:58 < Tony_Sidaway> Touch typing FTW!
19:58 < Fluffernutter> Soapy types like me :D
19:58 < Fox2k12> hehe
19:59 < mareklug> but Soapy is not Illuminati
19:59 < Fluffernutter> we let him THINK he's not
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19:59 < Shirik> Soapy is illuminutty
19:59 < Cyrax> Atention!
20:00 < Tony_Sidaway> I wonder if I should learn Dvorak layout to see if it increases my typing speed.
20:00 < Cyrax> Vigilance to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/118.210.94.132
20:00 < mareklug> Tony_Sidaway:  or you could just talk to your mac.  10.8.1 supports dictation across the board
20:01 < Shirik> I am watching Cyrax
20:01 < Cyrax> ok :)
20:01 < Shirik> thank you
20:02 < ow> Tony_Sidaway: it doesn't, I switched to dvorak
20:02 < ow> however I don't regred switching
20:02 < ow> *regret
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20:02 < ow> as it is easier to type on
20:02 < Tony_Sidaway> I can't afford Apple hardware. I use second hand standard i386 boxes and run BSD for preference.
20:02 < Soapy> i386? seriously?
20:02 < Soapy> not even i am that ascetic
20:03 < Soapy> i386 is a line of processors that was discontinued 20 years ago, right?
20:03 < evilgohan2> i386 huh? Care for an upgrade?
20:03 < Shirik> I think it was less than 20
20:03 < evilgohan2> I got a Pentium Pro I'm not using anymore.
20:03 < Shirik> but close to that
20:03 < Tony_Sidaway> Soapy that's just the name of the architecture. They're Pentium 4s.
20:03 < Soapy> ok
20:03 < evilgohan2> oh lol
20:03 < Shirik> the architecture is x86
20:03 < evilgohan2> ^
20:04 < harej> Pentium 4! Fan-cy!
20:04 < Shirik> harej: I heard they got them newfangled MMEs
20:04 < Shirik> MMXs*
20:04 < harej> Mega Man X?
20:04 < evilgohan2> i386 was an accepted term for referring to 32-bit / x86 Shirik, if I'm not mistaken
20:05 < evilgohan2> hold that though...
20:05 < evilgohan2> Breaking Bad time :P
20:05 < Tony_Sidaway> Well x86 is more general. i386 implies flat memory and virtual paging.
20:05 < Shirik> oh P4 introduced SSE2
20:05 < Shirik> I'm a little bit off
20:05 < Shirik> where was MMX introduced
20:05 < Tony_Sidaway> Originally x86 was segmented.
20:05 < evilgohan2> Pentium Pro
20:05 < evilgohan2> I think around the 266MHz or 300MHz spec
20:05 < evilgohan2> one of those two
20:06 < Tony_Sidaway> Yes, MMX was Pentium Pro, late 90s.
20:06 < Pine> How long do page loads take on a 300Mhz Pentium?
20:07 < evilgohan2> Depends
20:07 < evilgohan2> which OS?
20:07 < Cyrax> WARNING!
20:07 < Cyrax> Block to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/118.210.94.132
20:07 < Cyrax> Final vandal in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisa_Senda
20:08 < evilgohan2> did he blank the page?
20:08 < Pine> Cyrax: can you stay off the all caps please?
20:08 < Tony_Sidaway> Basically three are two main Intel-based architectures--one for 32 bits, the other for 64. In fact the 64 one is essentially an AMD design.
20:08 < Cyrax> Thank you Shirik :)
20:08 < mareklug> Pine you know that the web pages contemporary to 300Mhz processors were much faster loading than those of dotay?
20:08 < evilgohan2> AMD64
20:08 < mareklug> today
20:08 < evilgohan2> Pretty much
20:08 < evilgohan2> x86_64 isn't it?
20:09 < Cyrax> :|
20:09 < Cyrax> Pine single warning vandalism
20:09 < Pine> mareklug: I recall images taking ages to load but that may have been because of my 56k connection
20:09 < evilgohan2> mareklug: before or after people started putting flash on their pages like everyone on the planet had a 733MHz Pentium III and 256MB of SDRAM?
20:09 < evilgohan2> oh, excuse me..
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20:10 < evilgohan2> Macromedia Shockwave and Flash lol...
20:10 < Pine> Cyrax: I guess I don't understand? Yes vandalism is a problem but we don't need to shout.
20:10  * Pine has sensitive hearing
20:10 < geniice> I rememeber when chapionship managager 3 killed everyone's PCs because it required 128 mb of RAM
20:10 < Cyrax> :|
20:10 < Cyrax> ok ;)
20:10  * evilgohan2 plays back a 21KHz tone
20:10 < mareklug> Pine exactly.   I still have a working mac laptop from 1988 (upgraded some) with Debian on it and Mac OS X (vintage) and Mac OS 9, and the web pages under cable modem connection load reasonably.  It's a 300Mhz PowerPC
20:11 < MuZemike> 56k? Still hearing dial tones?
20:11  * harej keeps quiet.
20:11 < mareklug> 1998
20:11 < Shirik> Does anyone know anything about this?
20:11 < Shirik> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shirik&diff=prev&oldid=510470759
20:11 < Shirik> I'm assuming it was random vandal trying to click the button and it not working for them
20:11 < Pine> Cyrax: thank you for your good intentions though. You can shout !_admin if there really is some sort of crisis like a vandal blanking tons of pages or inserting hundreds of spam links
20:11 < evilgohan2> mareklug: My oldest laptop happens to be a Sony Vaio (keyword: my. I've got family members with older laptops and I've got significantly older desktops)
20:11 < evilgohan2> With a Pentium Pro MMX @300MHz
20:11 < evilgohan2> 64mb of SDRAM
20:11 < Tony_Sidaway> I recall the day I upgraded to 64MB because suddenly that cost less than £100.
20:12 < geniice> Shirik could be genuine confusion
20:12 < Pine> Everyday vandalism is a bit "normal" unfortunately, and not a crisis usually. :)
20:12 < Gfoley4> user page is a tad odd...
20:12 < evilgohan2> I want to say... 6GB of HDD space? :P
20:12 < Cyrax> Pine ok
20:12 < evilgohan2> Man, it had some great battery life too
20:12 < Cyrax> !who is the bot
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20:12 < evilgohan2> Especially when I moved it up to Windows 2000.
20:12 < Cyrax> !_who
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20:12 < evilgohan2> It even runs Windows XP... albeit slow to the point of hair pulling.
20:12 < Moe_Epsilon> does anyone else think that the San Diego Chargers word logo meets the threshold of originality, or is it too generic? http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?id=976
20:13 < Pine> Cyrax I'm not sure what you're asking
20:13 < Gfoley4> Chargers are bad.
20:13 < evilgohan2> What he said.
20:13 < evilgohan2> :P
20:13 < Tony_Sidaway> Still have all my old drives from the 1990s. 800MB!
20:13 < Moe_Epsilon> I'm not asking for their Super Bowl chances :p
20:13 < Moe_Epsilon> 0 btw
20:13 < evilgohan2> Tony: 20MB :P
20:13 < Cyrax> hahaha Who is the bot?
20:13 < Shirik> Tony_Sidaway: I have my 512MB drive
20:13 < Pine> Which bot?
20:14 < evilgohan2> I've got a few 300MB drives too
20:14 < Pine> Bots are not people. :)
20:14 < evilgohan2> My 2GB died a glorious death
20:14 < Gfoley4> Moe_Epsilon: for the logo or the words?
20:14 < evilgohan2> It fault well. It made it's Western Digital ancestors proud.
20:14 < Tony_Sidaway> I've got a 20MB IDE drive on my Amiga 1200
20:14 < evilgohan2> Pun fully intended.
20:14 < Moe_Epsilon> Gfoley4, just the words, the blue text with the white and yellow line through it
20:15 < evilgohan2> One of these days, I'd like to see the possibility of getting Fedora for ARM (or a similar distro) onto my Tegra 2 tablet.
20:15 < Cyrax> Bye
20:15 < evilgohan2> See about turning it into a web server.
20:15 < Cyrax> See you
20:15 < Pine> Bye :)
20:15 < Tony_Sidaway> And a 5.25 floppy (100kb) on my Apple II.
20:15 < evilgohan2> LAMP + WebMin. That is, if such a thing is even posssible.
20:16 < evilgohan2> Tony Sidaway: Man I have an old 5 and a quarter-inch floppy drive, lol.
20:16 < evilgohan2> Hell, I know a guy who still owns an 8" floppy drive
20:16 < Gfoley4> Moe_Epsilon: how are other word marks treated?
20:16 < euphoria> Any Perl experts in the room?
20:17 < evilgohan2> "any perl" (ear piques up)
20:17 < evilgohan2> "experts" nevermind, lol.
20:17 < Tony_Sidaway> evilgohan2, okay you win the Quidditch.
20:17 < Moe_Epsilon> Gfoley4: I'm not sure exactly :P Wikipedia only had the non-free logos, no wordmarks and searching through Commons, no wordmarks are uploaded
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20:17 < Moe_Epsilon> I figured generic text logos, I'd be able to upload
20:18 < evilgohan2> Tony_Sidaway: Not sure if dating myself like that counts as a win
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20:19 < mareklug> evilgohan2:  yes, but do you own a US Robotics Dual Standard HST/v.34bis modem? :)
20:19 < Tony_Sidaway> I wonder off Edsger Dijkstra was ever asked his opinion of Perl. I hope whoever did so was wearing protective clothing!
20:19 < evilgohan2> [23:18:58] <mareklug> evilgohan2:  yes, but do you own a US Robotics Dual Standard HST/v.34bis modem? :)
20:19 < evilgohan2> I can't say I do.
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20:19 < evilgohan2> I own a few U.S. Robotics modems.
20:19 < Gfoley4> Moe_Epsilon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cowboys_wordmark.svg there's one
20:19 < evilgohan2> One 33.6k, two 56k (including 1 that is a serial modem, lol)
20:19 < Gfoley4> I would go for it
20:19 < evilgohan2> a Gateway 2000 branded 28.8k modem
20:20 < evilgohan2> and there's a 9600baud somewhere around here...
20:20 < evilgohan2> I'm sure I've got a 14.4k as well, but don't quote me on that.
20:20 < Tony_Sidaway> I've got a v32bis modem somewhere.
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20:20 < ChrisGualtieri> hi
20:20 < Moe_Epsilon> Gfoley4: cool, I'll start uploading them to the Commons for cross-wiki use :)
20:20 < evilgohan2> I feel sorry for some people I know who will go unnamed
20:20 < evilgohan2> They owned Rockwells :P
20:21 < Gfoley4> ok! but do other wikis even care about american football? :P
20:21 < Moe_Epsilon> XD
20:21 < mareklug> Gfoley4:  pl wiki has an article on it.  it may also have stubs about teams in the NFL
20:22 < ChrisGualtieri> English wiki, best wiki
20:22 < Gfoley4> hmm, ok
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20:22 < Tony_Sidaway> I used to have a Sinclair Spectrum with one of the original microdrives.
20:22 < evilgohan2> you got me on that one
20:22 < Pine> Hi Chris
20:22 < Moe_Epsilon> yeah, even the mr wiki has an article on the Packers :p
20:22 < Pine> Would anyone like some coffee?
20:23 < Tony_Sidaway> Actually I think my brother in law may still have it.
20:23 < Moe_Epsilon> https://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A8_%E0%A4%AC%E0%A5%87_%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%85%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B8
20:23 < evilgohan2> *Blink*
20:23 < evilgohan2> *Blink*
20:24 < Tony_Sidaway> This is for English Wikipedia.
20:25 < mareklug> wow, pl wiki has a blue link for every NFL team https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategoria:Zespoły_National_Football_League
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20:29 < LtNOWIS> Best edit summary ever: "(Created page with '"Come" for an orgasm is not a typo.')"
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20:30 < Tony_Sidaway> I just took a look at the interwiki link list for Manchester United. Daunting !
20:31 < Peter-C> O-o
20:31 < Peter-C> REAL MADRID
20:31  * Peter-C tosses paint over Tony_Sidaway
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20:32 < Tony_Sidaway> Not that I follow sports myself.
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20:41 < Tony_Sidaway_> The only thing I knew about Man Utd was the Munich Air Disaster. Oh and Bobby Charlton and George Best, of course.
20:41 < Tony_Sidaway_> On reading the article, it seems I wasn't missing much.
20:43 < Tony_Sidaway_> Sport really is as incredibly tedious as I remember from my childhood, when one was supposed to take such things seriously.
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20:43 < IDoH> hey
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20:50 < Pine> IDoH: hi
20:50 < IDoH> How are ya?
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20:51 < Pine> Great, how are you? :) Would you like some coffee?
20:52 < Tony_Sidaway_> Reading the Conservapedia talk pages of some people I know quite well from Wikipedia. Most amusing.
20:52 < IDoH> Pine: I am well
20:53 < ChrisGualtieri> Conservapedia?
20:54 < Jasper_Deng_sick> uh-oh http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&curid=564696&diff=510530505&oldid=510529056
20:55 < ChrisGualtieri> Drama
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20:56 < Tony_Sidaway_> ChrisGualtieri yes, there are some people in good standing on both wikis.
20:56 < ChrisGualtieri> No I meant Jasper_Deng's link
20:56 < ChrisGualtieri> Got no idea what conservapedia is
21:00 < ChrisGualtieri> Jasper_Deng_sick: I'm reaching out to her
21:01 < Jasper_Deng_sick> ChrisGualtieri: yeah, it's close to impossible for me to do so without WP:BITE'ing
21:02 < ChrisGualtieri> Sadly, most editors are in good faith, yet the material about them is wrong
21:02 < russavia> mareklug you about?
21:02 < ChrisGualtieri> When something is wrong, I want to fix it
21:03 < IDoH> I think BLP addresses some of that, Chris
21:03 < ChrisGualtieri> Yeah, but the only thing that is often done is warning templates and a dismissal
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21:03  * runetree tries in vain to understand templates. ugh.
21:04 < ChrisGualtieri> If the subject of the article sees it, they are concerned and justified in doing some action
21:04 < ChrisGualtieri> Its not their fault Wikipedia is very unfriendly to such issues
21:04 < IDoH> True
21:05 < legoktm> is anyone else having recent edits not show up on their contributions page?
21:05 < legoktm> i'm pretty confused right now
21:06 < Gfoley4> could be some lag
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21:06 < legoktm> its showing later edits though
21:06 < legoktm> this is my bot btw
21:06 < Gfoley4> deleted?
21:07 < legoktm> 4 edits around 00:00-00:03 aren't showing up
21:07 < legoktm> nope, they're still live
21:07 < legoktm> edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AEpisode_3_%28Twin_Peaks%29&diff=510354685&oldid=510227434
21:07 < legoktm> contributions: [[Special:Contributions/Legobot]]
21:07 < Tony_Sidaway_> Bloke on Joshuaz's talk page arguing blind that both Vatican II and Pope Benedict XVI are heretical and both are condemned as  such by "The Catholic Church". Yeah right, he's only the current Pope, and the former head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faithful. What would he know about Catholicism?
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21:10 < Pine> Hmm
21:10 < Pine> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Edit_filter/False_positives&diff=prev&oldid=308223917
21:10  * legoktm heads over to #wikimedia-tech
21:11 < Tony_Sidaway_> Ah, he's a sedevacantist. I seem to recall bumping into the same nutter on Wikipedia.
21:11 < ChrisGualtieri> How long is it going to take for the enwiki dump to finish?
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21:18 < Tony_Sidaway_> If you're a member of a strong religious sect, perhaps the largest the world has ever seen, and that sect vests all doctrinal authority ultimately in the hands of a single representative elected for life, what do you do when that authority goes against your interpretation of doctrine?
21:19 < Tony_Sidaway_> The sedevacantists simply declared the Pope and all his successors heretics.
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21:20 < Tony_Sidaway_> That's too barking mad even for Conservapedia!
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21:23 < Tony_Sidaway_> Strangely enough, the same chap while indefinitely blocked from Conservapedia has remained in good standing on Wikipedia.
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21:24 < Tony_Sidaway_> Perhaps being thoroughly outnumbered here by mainstream Catholics he proved less of a liability.
21:25 < Mike_HH> :o
21:25 < Mike_HH> Tony_Sidaway_ is still alive?
21:25 -!- Mike_HH is now known as Mike_H
21:26 < Tony_Sidaway_> Mike_H I know of no good reason why I should not continue to draw breath. And so I respire.
21:27 < Mike_H> I just haven't seen you on IRC in like 5 or 6 years
21:27 < runetree> People do that sometimes.
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21:28 < Mike_H> :o
21:29 < ChrisGualtieri> Wikipedia needs to start growing again...
21:30 < Tony_Sidaway_> Mike_H yes I did stop using IRC for ages, but recently came back to Freenode mainly for the techie channels. But I like to loaf around here too.
21:31 < Tony_Sidaway_> This "the Pope is a heretic" chap also got told off on Conservapedia for writing that the sun orbits the earth.
21:32 < Tony_Sidaway_> And why shouldn't it? That was pretty much the case against Galileo, who like the Pope was a heretic.
21:32 < Mike_H> Tony_Sidaway_: I don't come here usually.
21:32 < Mike_H> Now I am in #linguistics a lot.
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21:33 < Mike_H> Tony_Sidaway_: zocky and bogdan from older WP days are there (although not now)
21:33 < Tony_Sidaway_> Well obviously you know me. Did I know you?
21:33 < Mike_H> LOL I guess I wasn't as memorable as I thought.
21:35 < Tony_Sidaway_> Mike_H I find I tend to stick in most people's minds. But my own memory is too small to contain all the names.
21:35 < Mike_H> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Halterman
21:35 < Mike_H> I need to update that page btw
21:35 < Mike_H> I turn 27 in November
21:35 < Mike_H> it still says I am 25
21:37 < Isarra> Should use a parser function.
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21:38 < Mike_H> A what
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21:40 < Tony_Sidaway_> Mike_H oh more
21:40 < Tony_Sidaway_> Now I remember you!
21:40 < Tony_Sidaway_> Christian
21:41 < Tony_Sidaway_> SORRY
21:41 < Tony_Sidaway_> coronation street
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21:42 < Tony_Sidaway_> This mobile telephone keyboard sometimes goes funny.
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