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--- Log opened Sat Aug 18 00:00:15 2012
00:02 < ow> pfft, rest
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00:07 < SigmaWP>  What are design documents?
00:07 < SigmaWP> wct
00:07 < SigmaWP> oh
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00:14 < Bradford> Hi
00:14 < Mdann52> Hi
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00:28 < Sp33dyphil> hello
00:28 < CoalBalls> Hi
00:28 < CoalBalls> Bye
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00:37 < MartijnH> do Conference South football players pass [[WP:ATHLETE]]?
00:38 < Mdann52> Possibly not.....
00:38 < Mdann52> Actually, just no, unless they're well known outside Football
00:38 < MartijnH> ok, thanks
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00:39 < MartijnH> couldn't figure out if it was a fully professional league
00:39 < Mdann52> Not really......
00:39 < Mdann52> (this coming from someone in England btw)
00:40 < Mdann52> I know some players are not actually processional in some clubs
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00:42 < Mdann52> Bye all
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03:24 < wctaiwan> do admins normally clean up after the vandals when they block them?
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03:30 < mattbuck> they should wctaiwan
03:30 < wctaiwan> yeah, this one didn't :P
03:30 < mattbuck> well deadmin them
03:30 < wctaiwan> lol
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05:11 < Qcoder02> Any admins around?
05:11 < Qcoder02> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3AHadako-tan.png - needs an appropriate tag
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05:13 < lexein> Anyone here involved in WikiNews
05:13 < lexein> ?
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05:16 < Qcoder02> lexein
05:16 < Qcoder02> try #wikinews
05:16 < lexein> Yup, did that.
05:16 < lexein> Thx
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05:18 < lexein> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Croizon has completed his straits crossings in 4C water in the Bering Strait.  Gnarly
05:19 < lexein> Cheers - off to sleep
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05:21 < wctaiwan> o/ foks.
05:22 < foks> Afternoon
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05:22 < IRWolfie-> o/
05:27 < Sp33dyphil> Wctaiwan: ni hao.
05:27 < wctaiwan> hi there.
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05:46 < IRWolfie-> For a portal, Is there any way to grab only the lede of another article?
05:46 < foks> You need to input it manually.
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05:48 < wctaiwan> so many (top)s in my recent contribs.
05:50 < IRWolfie-> what do you mean by (top)s?
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05:51 < wctaiwan> the markers indicating that my edit was the last to a particular page.
05:53 < IRWolfie-> aha
05:55 < closedmouth> importScript('User:Splarka/hidetopcontribs.js');
05:55 < Froodsleep> can someone revdel a couple things on my talk page?
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05:57 < Frood> actually, nevermind.
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06:00 < closedmouth> ok
06:01 < wctaiwan> hi Frood, you're welcome :p
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06:01 < Frood> wctaiwan: it's kind of creepy...
06:01 < wctaiwan> the vandalism? or that I happened upon it.
06:01 < Frood> s/kind of/extremely/
06:01 < Frood> the vandalism
06:01 < wctaiwan> I happened upon it because they also vandalised my page.
06:01 < wctaiwan> oh
06:01 < wctaiwan> meh, stupid little troll. who gives?
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06:03 < Sp33dyphil> Frood: hi
06:03 < Frood> Hi.
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06:34 < Qcoder02> Frood :  Define 'creepy'?
06:34 < Frood> Qcoder02: "Come on skype for hot show"
06:35 < Qcoder02> OH right
06:35 < Qcoder02> Male or female troll?
06:37 < Frood> male...
06:37 < Frood> i hope
06:37 < Frood> s/he often advertises his "10 inch penis"
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06:38 < Qcoder02> 'She-male troll' ?
06:39 < Qcoder02> Besides a 10 inch penis is a lie :)
06:40 < Qcoder02> so when do we start getting Russian Lolcats?
06:40 < Qcoder02> " Da, Is Serioz Pussy!"
06:41 < Frood> he offered Pharos his 10-inch penis too.
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06:46 < Qcoder02> frood: In some states , offering someone your penis is considered a sex crime
06:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> what if you giftwarp?
06:49 < Qcoder02> Erm...
06:50 < Frood> dick-in-a-box?
06:50 < Qcoder02> I assume the channel is mature enough to realise I was not including body massagers ;)
06:57 < Pharos> hi wikipedians
06:58 < Frood> hi Pharos
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07:04 < ChrisGualtieri> I just realized our Hamburger article is LARGELY a copyright vio
07:04 < ChrisGualtieri> Some of the vandalism was removing it
07:08 < ChrisGualtieri> Unbelievable >.>
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07:13 < IRWolfie-> can someone look at this ip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/85.166.132.191
07:13 < IRWolfie-> he appears to be blanking a number of sections on different articles
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07:20 < Frood> IRWolfie-: your warning to them
07:20 < Frood> why aren't all like that?
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07:28 < Qcoder02> Anyone know what 4chan is saying about Assange at the moment?
07:28 < Qcoder02> (or anonops)
07:28 < noommos> is 90.222.44.238 autoblocked?
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07:48 < IRWolfie-> Frood: how do you mean?
07:48 < IRWolfie-> that I didn't use a template and wrote an actual message?
07:48 < Frood> IRWolfie-: it's simple, and to the point.
07:49 < IRWolfie-> Yes I prefer writing messages most of time, most templates get ignored
07:49 < IRWolfie-> unless the template actually does have relevant information
07:49 < IRWolfie-> my message will most likely get ignored, but at least he will realize it's a real person
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08:06 < IRWolfie-> the feedback feature is pretty useful
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08:10 < IRWolfie-> some of the feedback is more worrying
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08:11 < IRWolfie-> like doctors looking for information about "astrobiomedicine" and acupuncture to treat patients :|
08:11 < IRWolfie-> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ArticleFeedbackv5/Bioresonance_therapy/229141
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08:12 < Mrmatiko> that is slightly terrifying...
08:12 < foks> Has anyone seen LauraHale recently?
08:12 < Frood> she's on now, foks
08:12 < foks> hmm
08:13 < foks> "The nickname “LauraHale” does not exist."
08:13 < foks> noooope
08:13 < Frood> -NickServ- User seen  : now
08:13 < foks> NickServ seems pretty adamant she is
08:13 < Frood> memoserv her
08:13 < foks> But she's not
08:13 < foks> fine, fine
08:13 < Frood> probably a different nick.
08:13 < foks> ...hm
08:14 < Frood> popples|sleep
08:14 < foks> Oh, fuck.
08:14 < foks> I didn't realise how late it was over there
08:14 < foks> Oh well.
08:14 < Frood> over where?
08:14 < foks> Australia.
08:15 < Frood> ...aren't you there?
08:15 < foks> y'know, where Laura is.
08:15 < foks> Not anymore. moved back.
08:15 < foks> I wasn't in her timezone anyways.
08:15 < Frood> when did this happen?
08:15 < foks> um, a few weeks ago
08:15 < Frood> Oh.
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08:24 < Frood> Question. Is school.nz an official subdomain for New Zealand?
08:25 < Frood> i think it is.
08:25 < foks> I don't think so.
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08:25 < darev> hello
08:26 < foks> I think www.school.nz has subdomains
08:26 < foks> is all
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08:27 < foks> also, useful! https://img.skitch.com/20120818-x7ugfm9fyj7jkxn6qqdwhaupe9.jpg
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08:29 < Frood> somebody should edit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Transclude to see how long it'll take wikipedia down for.
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08:31  * Fluffernutter smacks Frood
08:31 < Frood> D:
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08:41 < foks> lol, Interpol have a red notice out on Assange?
08:41 < foks> oh man
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08:50 < Pharos> hi wikipedians
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08:55 < Fluffernutter> what's the guideline adresses that "a book is a commonsense source for the fact that itself was published"?
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09:09 < Bradford> Hi
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09:11 < Pharos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMONSENSE
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09:59 < {Soap}> lyricwiki doesnt seem to be doing very well at getting itself into google searches
10:00 < Theopolisme> mmhm?
10:00 < {Soap}> and theyre the only good lyric site left
10:00 < {Soap}> the only one that doesnt splash you with ads and stuff covering up what youre trying to read
10:01 < foks> songmeanings is good
10:01 < {Soap}> and theyre a wiki, so you can edit it
10:01 < foks> as is rapgenius, but that's obviously for rap
10:01 < {Soap}> songmeanings is good, yeah
10:02 < foks> quite
10:03 < Pharos> you know what's good?
10:03 < Pharos> peace and love
10:03  * foks NP: "The Scientist (Dimitri Vangelis & Wyman Need Howie's Thin Mint Cookies Mix)" - Coldplay (The Scientist - Single, 0)
10:03 < foks> \o/
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10:04 < mysterytrey> Is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N165 notable?
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10:05 < Pharos> yes
10:05 < foks> no
10:05 < foks> describe it in [[Curiosity Rover]]
10:05 < Pharos> but it has its own twitter feed!
10:05 < foks> A rock?
10:06 < foks> Also, these guys are from Brooklyn!
10:06  * foks NP: "Two Weeks" - Grizzly Bear (Veckatimest, 2009)
10:06 < Pharos> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Rocks_on_Mars
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10:06 < Pharos> go Brooklyn!
10:06 < Pharos> https://twitter.com/N165Mars
10:07 < foks> I have my own twitter feed
10:07 < foks> alas, no aritlce
10:07 < foks> * article
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10:07 < Pharos> you lack the PR skillz of a rock on Mars
10:08 < foks> I have three times as many followers, bitches
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10:08 < Pharos> yes, but how many of your followers have phds in planetary geology?
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10:09 < foks> all of them
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10:10 < Pharos> wow
10:10 < mysterytrey> Do rocks hack phds in planetary geology?
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10:13 < Dainomite> how do i tell awb to not automatically add {{persondata... to pages when using it
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10:15 < Fluff|away> try unchecking "apply generalfixes"? or if there'saboxspecifically for persondata in the settings, uncheck that
10:15 < Dainomite> ok
10:16 < Pharos> all self-respecting rocks do
10:17 < Pharos> rocks that care about their cultural heritage
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10:17 < KimiSleep> My rocks care more about advancing their culture and understanding of the universe rather than conserving what already exists
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10:18 < StevenW> If anyone is interested, Sue Gardner (the WMF Executive Director) is doing office hours in #wikimedia-office about 15-20 minutes.
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10:18 < Qcoder02> What's the topic?
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10:19 < Pharos> KimiSleep: that's because your rocks are socialists
10:20 < KimiSleep> My rocks are as grey as any other rock
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10:20 < Pharos> RED rocks on a RED planet
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10:21 < StevenW> Qcoder02: there isn't a single one. It's been a while since Sue did one of these, so we want to keep it open.
10:21 < Pharos> i never met a rock that truly appreciated our free market sytem
10:21 < KimiSleep> I never met a rock that brought up any resistance when I bashed capitalists' heads in
10:22 < KimiSleep> [I wish to note that I have no preference of an economic system whatsoever and I'm simply taking this side as it is the best side to take for the sake of this story]
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10:23 < Pharos> rocks are not job creators
10:23 < Pharos> they just sir around and loaf
10:23 < Ebe123> they can be
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10:24 < Pharos> all i'm saying is, this country has more than enough rocks already
10:24 < Demiurge1000> If you don't have rocks, what would you build your lighthouses on?
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10:25 < Pharos> last thing we need is an invasion of freign rocks from alien geologies
10:25 < Pharos> if there were no rocks, we wouldn't even NEED lighthouses
10:25 < Pharos> think about it!
10:25 < Demiurge1000> not true!
10:25 < Demiurge1000> le sandbar can be just as dangerous!
10:25 < KimiSleep> Did you know that everyone who ever touched a rock died?
10:25 < Demiurge1000> see [[Doom Bar]]
10:25 < KimiSleep> Have you ever tyhought about THAT?
10:26 < Demiurge1000> (sort of like dime bar, but made out of sand and much bigger)
10:26 < Pharos> what is sand but sneaky little rocks?
10:26 < KimiSleep> Sand is silicon
10:26 < KimiSleep> Rocks are not
10:26 < Pharos> Superman touched a rock and died
10:26 < Pharos> the rocks killed Superman!
10:26 < Ebe123> Silicon dioxide
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10:26 < Ebe123> Kryptonite!
10:26 < KimiSleep> Have you read Red Son?
10:26 < KimiSleep> Superman can be evil soemtimes
10:27 < KimiSleep> The world doesn't need superheroes
10:27 < KimiSleep> It needs upstanding citizens like you and me and that rock over there
10:27 < KimiSleep> Which, of course, is not currently a citizen
10:27 < KimiSleep> But we're all working to change that
10:28 < Pharos> yes, you want to put your rock lackies on the voter rolls
10:28 < KimiSleep> No
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10:28 < Pharos> and besmirch this great democracy with geo-fraud
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10:28 < KimiSleep> I have no idea what the opinions of my rock friends are
10:28 < KimiSleep> And even if I did, it shouldn't matter
10:28 < Pharos> soon even our women won't be safe from them!
10:28 < KimiSleep> Because every rock is entitled to their opinion
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10:28 < KimiSleep> These rocks were here before you and your grandfathers!
10:29 < KimiSleep> These rocks have held our homes, our schools!
10:29 < KimiSleep> And what did they get in return? Smashed! Laid on the side of the roads!
10:29 < KimiSleep> Even kept as pets!
10:30 < mareklug> Pharos:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Hills_84001
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10:31 < Pharos> Allan Hills 84001 should be deported
10:31 < Pharos> it's clearly an illegal alien
10:32 < KimiSleep> Ridiculous
10:32 < KimiSleep> And how do you suggest it gets home?
10:32 < KimiSleep> In its own expense?
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10:32 < KimiSleep> It didn't come here by choice
10:32 < mareklug> some ppl postulate that terrestrial life is actually meterite-sourced
10:33 < mareklug> meteorite
10:33 < KimiSleep> Yes but there is no proof one way or the other atm
10:33 < Pharos> stop telling me i'm descended from space monkeys
10:33 < Pharos> blasphemer!
10:34 < KimiSleep> I am now sick of this debate
10:34 < KimiSleep> I declare myself the victor, at any rate.
10:34 < Pharos> i declare myself the champion
10:34 < KimiSleep> I declare myself PRESIDENT OF THIS DEBATE
10:35 < Pharos> i declare myself CONSTITUTIONAL MONARCH OF THIS DEBATE
10:35 < KimiSleep> I declare martial law and declare myself as Grand Marshall of this debate
10:35 < mareklug> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=were-meteorites-the-origi
10:36 < Pharos> atheist lies
10:36 < KimiSleep> pharos, do another one
10:36 < Pharos> they would have you forsake the rock of ages for the ages of rocks!
10:36 < KimiSleep> I've got a final one I want to use
10:37 < Pharos> i declare myself United Nations Special Envoy for this debate!
10:37 < KimiSleep> I declare ascension and proclaim myself OMNIPOTENT GOD
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10:37 < Pharos> god is hardly above the jurisdiction of the UN
10:38 < KimiSleep> Oh god
10:38 < KimiSleep> I hereby destory the Earth and move to Mars
10:38 < Ebe123> I declare myself the Devil
10:38 < Pharos> with your red rock pals!
10:38 < Ebe123> for this debate
10:38 < KimiSleep> Where I shall marry my beutiful wife and have three children, two of which will die of malaria and the third in a horrible balloon accident
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10:41 < {Soap}> b&
10:42 < KimiSleep> band?
10:42 < foks> Nope, just removed.
10:42 < {Soap}> banned
10:42 < KimiSleep> What band?
10:42 < foks> Rock Band.
10:42 < KimiSleep> Is it Madness?
10:42 < KimiSleep> That's a ska band, though
10:42 < Ebe123> It's nothing
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10:42 < KimiSleep> Everything is something
10:42 < KimiSleep> Things that aren't can't BE
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11:06 < Isarra> What was that thing folks were working on that would handle global messaging and put communications and notices and news from all wikis in one place?
11:06 < BarkingFish> howdy all, from almost the hottest part of the UK today -   31.8°C =^D
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11:10 < KimiSleep> BarkingFish - Let's not start a weather discussion
11:10 < KimiSleep> because it's boring
11:10 < KimiSleep> and I'll win
11:11 < BarkingFish> KimiSleep, if it's so boring, and you're meant to be asleep, go back to sleep and it will be less boring :)
11:11 < foks> It's 22C here in the north-east of Scotland.
11:11 < KimiSleep> Well it's night so it's not so hot
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11:11 < foks> Also, according to xkcd, by 2036 the majority of Americans will be too young to recall 9/11
11:11 < foks> that's a bit sad.
11:11 < KimiSleep> but it's 27C
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11:12 < foks> I don't miss 27C nights.
11:13 < KimiSleep> They're alright
11:13 < KimiSleep> Better than most
11:13 < foks> nooope
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11:13 < foks> Australia was vicious at night
11:14 < KimiSleep> Maybe I'll take a walk
11:14 < KimiSleep> just to prove a point
11:14 < foks> kbai
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11:15 < KimiSleep> Bfft
11:17 < Mdann52> Any admins?
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11:23 < Ebe123> No
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11:32 < mareklug> jeremyb:  what kinda help do you need?
11:33 < Frood> LoganCloud speaks spanish
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12:26 < CoalBalls> HEY!
12:26 < Mdann52> Hi
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12:29 < Miniz> Do we allow large tif files on en.wikipedia?
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12:30 < Mdann52> We have a bot......
12:30 < Mdann52> ................................
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12:30 < mareklug> Miniz:  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:File_types#TIFF
12:31 < Miniz> hmm
12:31 < Miniz> better convert it o PNG?
12:32 < mareklug> "PNG is not supported by most scanner software, but files saved in PNG can generally be made much smaller than TIFF files. For instance, one 33 MB TIFF reduced to 17 MB when saved as a PNG
12:32 < mareklug> Overall, PNG should be preferred; however, the ability to upload TIFF files is offered as a courtesy."
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12:35 < Mdann52> Ok.......
12:35 < foks> known troll
12:35 < Mdann52> What was that for?
12:35 < Mdann52> Ok :)
12:36 < mareklug> foks I missed that.
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12:37 < Qcoder02> Anyone seen a kylu?
12:39 < mysterytrey> Surely if you ping him repeatedly he'll respond.
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12:42 < mareklug> ah, the blessing of an air show….   low flying military jets at splitting head noise level setting off car alarms….    must be like Beirut
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12:43 < Qcoder02> LOL
12:43 < Qcoder02> Kylu isn't a he
12:43 < Frood> since when?
12:43 < Frood> foks: Learn_bot is back.
12:44 < foks> whatever
12:44 < foks> I'm told it's allowed to stay.
12:44 < Frood> whose is it?
12:44 < foks> and I for one welcome our new Learn_bot overlords
12:45 < foks> Frood, we have no idea.
12:45 < foks> and it's running python apparently
12:45 < foks> god knows what its doing
12:46 < Frood> it's joined a bunch of random channels
12:46 < Frood> not really random
12:46 < Frood> highly popular
12:46 < Mdann52> Just kick it :)
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12:46 < Mdann52> Bot's aren't allowed in here aparently.....
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12:46 < foks> not my call, froodikins
12:47 < foks> TBloemink, the remove reason should really have been "ask in -ops"
12:47 < foks> or something
12:47 < TBloemink> Oh
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12:52 < Mdann52> No  you stab ow, as antispammeta ordered earlier....
12:52 < Qcoder02> I thought kylu was a girl...
12:52 < Qcoder02> :(
12:52 < CoalBalls> kylu is one of those person-monster-things
12:53 < KimiSleep> This is the internet
12:53 < KimiSleep> it's all the same
12:55 < {Soap}> half of us are cats
12:56 < Qcoder02> Huh
12:56 < Qcoder02> ?
12:56  * Qcoder02 things he need to change his dosage
12:57 < KimiSleep> Hmm
12:57 < KimiSleep> Qcoder02
12:57 < KimiSleep> I need to be depressed about something
12:57 < KimiSleep> What is an easy and legitimate thing to be depressed about
12:58 < mareklug> the impending electricity cutoff for all of west bank?
12:58 < KimiSleep> Nah
12:58 < KimiSleep> Needs to be personal
12:59 < KimiSleep> something can happen
12:59 < KimiSleep> Not a death or something
12:59 < KimiSleep> but something smaller
12:59 < mareklug> if they start with the rocks, it might get personal quick...
13:00 < KimiSleep> It's not what I'm looking for
13:00 < KimiSleep> You're really a no good depression-shop shopkeeper
13:00 < mareklug> you have to give me more data.  i'm like google ad sense.  can do only what i know
13:01 < KimiSleep> What sort of data
13:01 < KimiSleep> I can feed you the entirety of the Harry Potter series but I'm not sure that would help
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13:01 < mareklug> in this case, it would be something re:  "needs to be personal"
13:01 < KimiSleep> by the power of capitals
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13:01 < KimiSleep> Right, it needs to be personal.
13:02 < KimiSleep> It needs to be something that would cause someone to descend onto depression pretty fast
13:02 < KimiSleep> It can't be a death or illness
13:02 < mareklug> do you have access to fresh blueberries/
13:02 < mareklug> ?
13:02 < KimiSleep> I'm afraid I do not
13:03 < mareklug> see, there you go.  depress over that
13:04 < mareklug> Qcoder02:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUUGUESgdhc    The Call of Kyulu-Metallica (S&M Disc 1)
13:04 < Qcoder02> HUh?
13:04 < mareklug> some kyulu for u
13:05 < Qcoder02> Oh
13:05 < Qcoder02> I meant kylu
13:05 < Qcoder02> ;)
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13:05 < Qcoder02> Sorry
13:05 < mareklug> :)
13:05 < mareklug> you might still dig the music
13:05 < KimiSleep> That's not a valid reason mareklug
13:05 < KimiSleep> No one would buy that
13:06 < mareklug> what, fresh blueberries?
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13:07 < KimiSleep> Yes
13:07 < KimiSleep> And that for a reason for depression
13:08 < KimiSleep> Listen, this is a part of a greater plan
13:08 < mareklug> when in season, I buy them by the boxful
13:08 < KimiSleep> If this bit works
13:08 < KimiSleep> Utopia, true happiness, eternal peace and knowledge will follow
13:08 < KimiSleep> all I need
13:08 < KimiSleep> is one reason
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13:10 < mareklug> "Utopia, true happiness, eternal peace and knowledge will follow"    sounds dangerously close to the "you'll get 72 huris"  deal
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13:10 < KimiSleep> huris?
13:10 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huri
13:11 < mareklug> speciff.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huri#.2272_virgins.22
13:11 < KimiSleep> sounds stupid
13:11 < KimiSleep> this isn't a religion
13:11 < KimiSleep> this is a real, thought-out plan
13:12 < KimiSleep> All I need is that first step
13:12 < mareklug> ppl blow up themselves and others with that promised
13:12 < KimiSleep> people
13:12 < KimiSleep> are fucking stupid
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13:12 < foks> say what you like about religion
13:12 < foks> but this is beautiful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Allah-eser-green.png
13:13 < KimiSleep> as a logo?
13:13 < foks> as a work of art
13:13 < KimiSleep> I don't like art much
13:13 < KimiSleep> So I wouldn't be able to discern
13:13 < foks> just look a ti
13:13 < foks> * at it
13:14 < mareklug> it would look great on a whir t-shirt
13:14 < mareklug> white
13:14 < KimiSleep> you know what would also look great on a white t-shirt
13:14 < KimiSleep> nothing
13:14 < KimiSleep> that's what I've been wearing for the past two years
13:14 < KimiSleep> and it has served me well
13:14 < foks> You are a boring man.
13:14 < {Soap}> really? you just wear plain white?
13:14 < KimiSleep> Yes
13:14 < KimiSleep> Well
13:15 < KimiSleep> I'm a soldier
13:15 < foks> HEY THERE DELILAH
13:15 < {Soap}> oh
13:15 < KimiSleep> So most of the time I'm in uniform
13:15 < foks> Is your uniform boring?
13:15 < KimiSleep> So I've gotten used to wearing just a white t-shirt
13:15 < KimiSleep> so that's what I wear when I'm off-duty
13:15 < KimiSleep> (That's what I wear underneath it so I've got loads)
13:15 < Demiurge1000> a fairly long white T-shirt, I hope, if that's all
13:16 < KimiSleep> heh.
13:16 < KimiSleep> I often find it annoying that I have to wear pants
13:16 < KimiSleep> Because I have to take off my uniform and then
13:16 < KimiSleep> I have to wear a totally different set of pants just before I go to sleep!
13:16 < Demiurge1000> This sounds very complicated.
13:17 < KimiSleep> It's the hard knock life
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13:17 < Fluffernutter> pants are overrated anyway
13:17 < KimiSleep> I agree
13:17 < KimiSleep> but I live with two girls
13:17 < KimiSleep> So I gotta wear pants
13:17 < mareklug> and so do they
13:17 < BarkingFish> pants as in what? Trousers or Underwear?
13:17 < KimiSleep> well, they do
13:18 < KimiSleep> trousers
13:18 < {Soap}> trousers
13:18 < Fluffernutter> maybe not - maybe if one person spoke up, everyone would agree pantslessness was better!
13:18 < BarkingFish> i hate it when something migrates from one language and means something totally different in another :)
13:18 < {Soap}> girls' shorts seem to be getting shorter and shorter
13:18 < {Soap}> at least around here
13:18 < mareklug> like kickers, knickerbockers
13:18 < mareklug> knickers
13:19 < Mdann52> You should see the skirts at my school......
13:19 < BarkingFish> to me, pants are what I wear over my undies :D
13:19 < KimiSleep> I agree BarkingFish
13:19 < KimiSleep> Actually
13:20 < KimiSleep> Being used to seeing girls in uniform
13:20 < KimiSleep> then suddenly going outside
13:20 < KimiSleep> or seeing a girl outside her uniform
13:20 < Mdann52> The girls seem ti be trying to get them shorter than their shirts.....
13:20 < KimiSleep> Is revelatory
13:20 < KimiSleep> Like I went out wednesday with a bunch of guys and a couple of girls
13:20 < {Soap}> yeah i ve seen that, mdann
13:20 < KimiSleep> To drink fbecause of some guy's birthday
13:20 < {Soap}> "youve got shorts on under that shirt, right?  : )"
13:20 < KimiSleep> and one of the girls which I think is absolutely stunning in uniform
13:20 < KimiSleep> was out of uniform
13:21 < KimiSleep> It makes them look SO MUCH better
13:21 < Mdann52> :)
13:21 < KimiSleep> Seriously, if you want to amke someone who doesn't look that good look better
13:21 < KimiSleep> Make yourself only see women in uniform for a year or so
13:21 < KimiSleep> I was like "OH GOD CLEAVAGE"
13:21 < KimiSleep> "OH GOD LEGS"
13:22 < KimiSleep> LEGGY LEGS
13:22 < foks> donuld whurs yer troosurs
13:22 < Mdann52> It's called school.....
13:22 < KimiSleep> "THAT SKIRT IS SO SHORT AHHH"
13:22 < BarkingFish> Mdann52, you should see one kid at a school close to where I used to live.  Girls can wear skirts, but boys there are not allowed to wear shorts. So he did this...
13:22 < BarkingFish> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8504552/Boy-wears-skirt-to-school-in-protest-against-discrimination.html
13:22 < Demiurge1000> that's ooooooooooooold
13:22 < Mdann52> :):) lol
13:22 < KimiSleep> Nice protest
13:22 < KimiSleep> Probably gotten the shit beaten out of him
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13:22 < Demiurge1000> no, he wuz famous
13:23 < Demiurge1000> on some very questionable sites, as well as the reliable sources
13:23 < KimiSleep> hmph
13:23 < mareklug> BarkingFish:  his kilt has no plaid (tartan), that's all….
13:23 < KimiSleep> I don't think I'm done talking about how amazing this girl looked
13:23 < KimiSleep> But I'll stop
13:23 < KimiSleep> For the sake of you all and myself
13:23 < Demiurge1000> Some popular UK morning chatshow had the (male) host appear in a skirt to "discuss" the idea
13:24 < BarkingFish> iirc that was either Jeremy Kyle, Demiurge1000, or Eamonn Holmes on This Morning
13:24 < BarkingFish> can't recall which right now
13:24 < KimiSleep> how silly
13:24 < Demiurge1000> Jeremy Kyle ftw!
13:25 < BarkingFish> Jeremy Kyle's american show is just a glorified Jerry Springer ripoff, but his british version is not so bad :)  Plenty of juicy drama and dna tests :P
13:25 < KimiSleep> Now that there are new people here
13:26 < KimiSleep> I need a good personal reason to be depressed that does not involve death or illness
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13:26 < KimiSleep> I can't think of anything
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13:26 < Demiurge1000> Oh is that what Jerry Springer is about? I don't think I ever watched it
13:27 < Mdann52> You don't live with that woman you were on about earlier :)
13:27 < Demiurge1000> I "accidentally" watched Jeremy Kyle for nearly four minutes, on at least two occasions
13:27 < BarkingFish> still at college?  You failed an exam and you're depressed cause it was important, KimiSleep
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13:27 < KimiSleep> Wha? Obviously not Mdann52
13:27 < KimiSleep> BarkingFish - I'm a soldier, as I've said
13:27 < KimiSleep> People are depressed over exams? That's cheap
13:27  * Mdann52 vanishes
13:27 < BarkingFish> you got in trouble for something that you can't immediately put right?
13:27 < {Soap}> you can be depressed about people being depressed about exams
13:28 < KimiSleep> I don't think failing at work can really iniitiate good depression, fish
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13:29 < KimiSleep> fuck it I give up
13:29 < {Soap}> you can be depressed about the poor quality of articles on Simple English Wikipedia
13:29 < KimiSleep> There is absolutely no reason to be depressed!!
13:29 < KimiSleep> Goddammit!
13:29 < BarkingFish> how depressed do you actually want to be? borderline "jump off a cliff onto rocks" depressed or "bored out of my wits" depressed?
13:30 < KimiSleep> Somewhere inbetween
13:30 < KimiSleep> Like "I don't want to do anything but sit here and be depressed" kinda depression
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13:30 < {Soap}> google's really getting creepy
13:30 < BarkingFish> "go rollerblading on a 6 lane freeway" type depressed...
13:31 < {Soap}> it's putting in search terms that I didnt search for, just because I searched for them in the past
13:31 < {Soap}> come on Google, Im not a baby!!
13:31 < {Soap}> I know what Im looking for
13:31 < mysterytrey> {{cn}}
13:31 < {Soap}> and sometimes I make a search that is completely unrelated to another one
13:31 < BarkingFish> {Soap}, are you logged in?  if so, log out.  I find being logged in on google search makes it slow as fuck, and it remembers what I've hunted in the past
13:32 < {Soap}> yeah but i want to stay logged in
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13:32 < {Soap}> there are some actual good things about it
13:32 < {Soap}> I'd say I'm 95% happy with Google
13:32 < {Soap}> I jsut complain about the other 5%
13:32 < KimiSleep> Anyway the only thing I can think about is inventing a fake girl
13:32 < BarkingFish> if i log out, i lose the ssl connection, it forgets my search history, and i can look for stuff without it being used by google elsewhere
13:32 < KimiSleep> to invent my fake heart
13:32 < KimiSleep> to break**
13:32 < KimiSleep> But that takes time and isn't very good anyway
13:34 < {Soap}> hmm
13:34 < {Soap}> you can burn 400 calories for just 1 hour of swimming
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13:34 < {Soap}> that beats a lot of other forms of exercise
13:34 < KimiSleep> that's almost half of what you need to heat a litre of water 1 degree celsius!
13:34 < {Soap}> lol
13:35 < KimiSleep> Actually, that's probably kilocalories
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13:35 < {Soap}> yeah, its always kilocalories when you talk about exercise
13:35 < {Soap}> so does that mean, given a theoretically perfect engine
13:35 < {Soap}> I could heat a liter of water 100 degrees C by swimming for two hours?
13:36 < KimiSleep> no no, what I said first is correct
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13:36 < KimiSleep> for kilocalories
13:36 < {Soap}> aw
13:36 < {Soap}> that's pathetic
13:36 < {Soap}> i thought i could put out more energy than that
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13:36 < KimiSleep> no wait
13:36 < KimiSleep> it is right
13:36 < KimiSleep> nevermind
13:36 < KimiSleep> you could heat up 400 litres of water
13:36 < KimiSleep> 1C
13:37 < KimiSleep> that's quite incredible
13:37 < KimiSleep> You could heat up a pool
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13:38 < KimiSleep> These units are hella confusing
13:38 < {Soap}> yeah
13:38 < KimiSleep> Why would you call a kilocalorie a calorie!?
13:39 < {Soap}> it's a deitician's thing
13:39 < {Soap}> it's more convenient, I guess
13:39 < KimiSleep> invent a different name!
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13:39 < {Soap}> because hardly anyone's going to talk about regular calories if theyre talking about food and nutrition
13:39 < KimiSleep> it's 4.2 Joules anyway. to heat up 1 gram
13:40 < Demiurge1000> Bloody expensive, I think.
13:40 < Demiurge1000> if it took less energy, think how much pollution could be avoided!
13:40 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie
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13:40 < KimiSleep> so there are many types of calorie
13:41 < KimiSleep> This is getting worse by the minute
13:41 < KimiSleep> Maybe I could be depressed about that
13:41 < KimiSleep> do you think pople would buy that
13:41 < {Soap}> exercise bikes are still probably more efficient at burning calories without making you feel exhausted, though
13:41 < KimiSleep> exhausted is good
13:41 < KimiSleep> You feel like you did shit
13:41 < KimiSleep> Like today I did nothing
13:41 < KimiSleep> and I feel LIKE shit
13:41 < {Soap}> i like the swimming, though
13:41 < KimiSleep> I find it boring
13:42 < KimiSleep> Can't even listen to music
13:42 < {Soap}> the cold water keeps me refreshed
13:42 < KimiSleep> and I have trouble opening my eyes in water
13:42 < KimiSleep> and I don't like wearing goggles
13:42 < {Soap}> the only downside is I can only do it a few days each year
13:42 < KimiSleep> Actually I love wearing goggles
13:42 < KimiSleep> Makes me feel like a digimon characters
13:42 < {Soap}> Im afraid of water
13:42 < {Soap}> seriously
13:42 < KimiSleep> But people think it's dorky.
13:42 < {Soap}> but I still enjoy swimming
13:42 < KimiSleep> I know someone who's ALLERGIC to water, so there
13:42 < {Soap}> I almost drowned when I was 2, that gave me a permanent fear of being underwater
13:43 < KimiSleep> It's funny, but also sad
13:43 < {Soap}> allergic to water?
13:43 < KimiSleep> Yes. That exists
13:43 < {Soap}> I heard that there was a skin condition like that
13:43 < {Soap}> is that what you mean?
13:43 < KimiSleep> yeah
13:44 < {Soap}> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquagenic_urticaria
13:44 < KimiSleep> People in this guy's team used to have a game
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13:44 < KimiSleep> It was easy to make him laugh
13:44 < KimiSleep> and if you made him laugh so much
13:44 < KimiSleep> He started to cry
13:44 < KimiSleep> and then his tears would burn his skin
13:44 < KimiSleep> and suddenly from laughter
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13:44 < KimiSleep> to pain
13:44 < {Soap}> yeah that would be tough
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13:44 < KimiSleep> Wiping his tears
13:44 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquagenic_urticaria
13:45 < mareklug> sorry Soap did not see
13:45 < KimiSleep> I could be depressed if I were allergic to water.
13:45 < KimiSleep> Damn.
13:46 < KimiSleep> Shouldn't be this hard. Most people spend their whole lives attempting to avoid it
13:46 < mareklug> I think Maria Sharapova should speak out on Riot Girls.  that would have some weight
13:47 < KimiSleep> is that a joke
13:47 < KimiSleep> is a she fat
13:47 < KimiSleep> who is she
13:47 < KimiSleep> who are riot gilrs
13:47 < KimiSleep> i am 12 and what is this
13:47 < mareklug> well, Putin calls her, decorates her.  she was a flag bearer at the olympics.
13:48 < mareklug> KimiSleep:  don't you read papers?
13:48 < KimiSleep> I should go to sleep. I have cleaning duty early tomorrow morning. Gah.
13:48 < mareklug> Google News?
13:48 < KimiSleep> Only science news
13:48 < KimiSleep> I saw something on the front page though
13:49 < KimiSleep> Pussy Riot?
13:49 < mareklug> right
13:49 < mysterytrey> WP:NOTCENSORED ?
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13:49 < KimiSleep> I'm sorry, I just get easily bored by world news
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13:50 < KimiSleep> History may not repeat itself, but it rhymes -- and its rhyming has become stale and repetitive.
13:50 < KimiSleep> I only look at world news if they personally concern me
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13:50 < KimiSleep> (i.e. I personally affected them)
13:50 < KimiSleep> It has happened a few times recently, but other than that -- boring
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13:52 < Athyria> Huh?
13:52 < Fluffernutter> wha?
13:52 < KimiSleep> duh
13:53 < Spitfire> ugh
13:53 < mareklug> :)  you two talk like Peaches
13:53 < KimiSleep> gonna move into the country
13:53 < KimiSleep> gonna me eat me a lot of peaches
13:53 < {Soap}> Peaches?
13:53 < {Soap}> the only Peach I know with a capital P is the Mario princess
13:53 < Athyria> Blargh.
13:53 < KimiSleep> peaches come from a can
13:54 < Athyria> Why do people like canning things so much?
13:54 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaches_(musician)
13:54 < KimiSleep> (they were put there by a man in a factory downtown)
13:54 < {Soap}> ok
13:54 < {Soap}> itda a pluarl
13:54 < {Soap}> *iss a plural
13:54 < Elduen> Athyria: Why not?
13:55  * Athyria cans Elduen.
13:55  * Elduen is preserved for 500 years.
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13:56 < mareklug>  Soap  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHcMqOQt4NY  Fuck The Pain Away - Peaches   (mildly nsfw)
13:58 < foks> Peaches looks like a complete tosser
13:58 < mareklug> well, looks are not everything.  at least she's close friends with Feist and Annie who are dish
13:59 < foks> and by the sounds of it is
13:59 < foks> "Peaches penned and programmed all the music for Fatherfucker herself." ... no shit?
13:59 < mareklug> nah, you have to give her a bit of sampling before writing her off
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14:01 < foks> ..."Fuck the Pain Away" had better get better
14:01 < foks> as it sounds it's just Ke$ha with a ton more cymbal noises.
14:02 < foks> oh for fuck's sake "stay in school 'cos it's the best"
14:02 < mareklug> well, she is a teacher
14:02 < foks> she's not a musician, anyway
14:02 < mareklug> aw, so harsh
14:03 < foks> ...sorry but that is irredeemably shite
14:03 < foks> Unless she has better songs
14:03 < mareklug> "On March 14, 2010, Peaches won the 'Electronic Artist of the Year' award at the 10th Annual Independent Music Awards held in Toronto, Canada.[24][25"   apparentlysome ppl think she does
14:04 < foks> That song was released in 2000 though so
14:04 < foks> maybe she did get better after that
14:04 < foks> can't be arsed finding out.
14:04 < geniice> or 2010 was a really bad year for electronic music
14:05 < foks> Well, 2010 was the year of Ke$ha...
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14:06  * Pharos haz bamboo
14:06 < foks> But also of Gold Panda, who is excellent.
14:06 < geniice> the only way to really appreciate electronic is in a german club at 2am while out of your head on E
14:06 < foks> https://www.youtube.com/sitc <- Weebl!
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14:07 < foks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0F_xMdMvNo
14:07 < foks> not his best but I love it.
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14:08 < geniice> old meme is old
14:08 < geniice> even if performed live
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14:10 < foks> now "Tiny Japanese Girl"
14:10 < foks> this is pretty crap.
14:10 < foks> :D
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14:11 < geniice> hmmp well I'm off to look at some stars
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14:31 < mareklug> foks:   that Vanilla Minus by Gold Panda you linked is like muzak comparing to Peaches.  There is no message, no controversy, no nothin...
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14:31 < foks> music isn't about controversy
14:32 < Pupito> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ArticleFeedbackv5/Homosexual_agenda/224539
14:32 < Pupito> heh
14:32 < foks> fuck's sake, derp
14:32 < foks> get out of it
14:32 < foks> * here
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14:32 < foks> thank you
14:33 < foks> you're already here, so why come in twice?
14:33 < foks> I mean, for god's sake. it's just silly.
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14:36 < BarkingFish> dudes. Is this worthy of transwiki to wiktionary? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oikema&redirect=no&rcid=523314742
14:36 < foks> I hate Wiktionary.
14:36 < foks> No idea.
14:36 < foks> looks like a penis.
14:36 < BarkingFish> it is a penis.
14:37 < BarkingFish> Claude Nicolas Ledoux created Projet de maison de plaisir which includes a phallus building
14:37 < foks> oh.
14:37 < foks> yeah you weren't thinking we would actually read it
14:38 < BarkingFish> :/
14:38 < foks> :P
14:39 < BarkingFish> anyway, anyone else?  wiktionary, prod as dicdef, csd or afd?
14:39 < foks> By the way, currently 1-0 to the Sounders against Vancouver
14:39 < mareklug> BarkingFish:  i would just userify that.  it is a bit short of lucidity.
14:39 < foks> BarkingFish, you can try taking it to Wiktionary, but they'll eat you alive
14:39 < foks> wiktionary is full of vicious bastards
14:40 < BarkingFish> yep, ok then. I'll userfy it mareklug :)
14:40 < foks> granted my experience is limited
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14:44 < BarkingFish> Wiki down?
14:45 < BarkingFish> Trying to save an edit to Jamesluxley's userpage, server is resetting the connection
14:45 < BarkingFish> *talk page
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14:46 < BarkingFish> nvm, gone through
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14:57 < BarkingFish> what is it with this place tonight?  It's quieter than a round of applause at a sign language convention :P
14:58 < mareklug> i'm just going through Peaches vids, tying to find one foks will like
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14:58 < foks> :P
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14:59 < BarkingFish> i know it's hot for some people, but if it's hot enough to keep you off of the internet, you're either in hell, or on fire. Both of which will spoil your night significantly :)
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15:04 < delirious> BarkingFish: it is hot. Any chance you or anyone else here is in Calgary and can scan & email me a menu/flyer for a pizza place
15:05 < foks> nope
15:05 < BarkingFish> you could try www.pizza73.com - you can order online through there :)
15:06 < foks> I'd love to live in canada for some reason
15:06 < mareklug> delirious:  Calgary, Alberta?
15:07 < delirious> BarkingFish: their Ontario business Pizza Pizza is good but their Alberta business Pizza 73 isn't
15:08 < foks> Calgary, Hong Kong.
15:08 < mareklug> delirious:  http://www.canadianpizzaunlimited.com/menu1.php   you can order online, too
15:08 < delirious> the company i am looking for obviously doesn't have a website
15:08 < Frood> can someone semi http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Urkel&action=history for 24 hours or so?
15:09 < Qcoder02> BarkingFish: Good evening
15:09 < delirious> mareklug: the comapny i am looking for is apparently a break-away / former franchise of that company
15:09 < Frood> it's on the front page of Reddit, or was at least.
15:09 < BarkingFish> which company are you looking for, delirious?
15:09 < delirious> Pangaea
15:10 < mareklug> delirious:  don't be so damn picky.  this sounds delicious:  CHICKEN DELIGHT      Onions, Jalapeno Peppers, Spicy BBQ & Tandoori Chicken
15:10 < delirious> i got a pile of pizza flyers in the mail yesterday and now i am craving some non-frozen-bake-at-home
15:11 < delirious> mareklug: i did say i was asking if someone else is in this city and channel and could SCAN the a flyer w/ their menu for me
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15:12 < Qcoder02> Evenign BarkingFish
15:12 < delirious> and those prices are about double those of pangaea from what i recall
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15:13 < mareklug> delirious:   if you were serious, you'd be asking in a calgary local channel.  here is one weblink http://irc.lc/undernet/calgary/t4nk@@@
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15:14 < MJ94> PEOPLE ANNOY ME
15:14 < MJ94> that is all
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15:14 < {Soap}> canad's nice
15:14 < MJ94> Yet I'm going for a psych degree.
15:14 < delirious> mareklug:  if i were serious i would be asking in a channel that has the broadest audience hoping someone might have some help that google doesn't seem to offer
15:15 < mareklug> delirious:  i believe that is the definition of spamming, troll
15:15  * ceradon facepalms
15:16 < delirious> well my channel has just me in it so little chance anyone there would be of help to me
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15:21 < mareklug> delirious:   (403) 289-7775.  Pangea in Calgary.
15:21 < Qcoder02> BarkingFish:  Ping
15:22 < delirious> phone number != menu
15:22 < BarkingFish> boing
15:22 < Qcoder02> BarkingFish:  So how are things?
15:22 < Qcoder02> Assange is due to make a statement tommorow?
15:22 < Qcoder02> When..?
15:22 < BarkingFish> in this wonderfully oppressive heat, i have all the energy of a continent sized power outage, Qcoder02
15:23 < BarkingFish> i can't even be arsed to get myself a drink. If I move, I will sweat.
15:23 < {Soap}> no air conditioning?
15:23 < Qcoder02> In the UK?
15:23 < Demiurge1000> anyone moderately fluent in Russian?
15:23 < Qcoder02> Hah
15:23 < BarkingFish> Yes, I have AC. It's called a large window, {Soap}
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15:24 < {Soap}> yeah I forgot you were still in England
15:24 < mareklug> Demiurge1000:  Soap and I can help some, with google assist
15:24 < {Soap}> what? me?
15:24 < {Soap}> I know absolutely no Russian
15:24 < mareklug> sure, you knew chorosho was good :)
15:24 < {Soap}> its true Ive gotten answers to some questions before though, just by saying "ask us anyway and maybe we'll know"
15:25 < {Soap}> because a lot of times if its just a matter of finding the right info on a page, there are other clues that can help
15:25 < Qcoder02> In Ecuador you claim Asylum, in Soviet Britan asylum claim you ! XD
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15:27 < Qcoder02> BarkingFish : I don't like the news at the moment,  If this banking scandla keeps up, a certain Barclays director will be taking a Holiday in Ecuador...
15:27 < Qcoder02> XD
15:27 < Qcoder02> Bad joke time...
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15:28 < BarkingFish> Maybe Geir Haarde should have done that when Icesave went down and Landsbankinn sunk like a lead bubble :)
15:28 < Qcoder02> "A Cabby is asked the fastest way to Pentonville,    "Straight through a red light the way you are driving!  replies the cabby..."
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15:30 < Qcoder02> "An activist has been released from police custody after it emerged he was disscussing take out options with an Indian restraunt, not making terror threats...  Police said they had acted on the pharse ' I could murder a curry!"
15:31 < {Soap}> : /
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15:32 < Qcoder02> Soap:  You aren't familiar with the Robin Hood Airport Tweets?
15:32 < {Soap}> nope
15:32 < {Soap}> probably some British thing
15:32 < foks> it's a twitter thing.
15:32 < {Soap}> ok
15:33 < mareklug> delirious:   u should hook up with this Jessica.  seems you have common predicaments http://jessicahunter.ca/wordpress/?p=1235
15:33 < Qcoder02> " Motorists have been advised to stick to thier lanes after an incident involing an adhesives tanker..."
15:34  * ceradon headdesks
15:35 < Qcoder02> And a classic ... "  What's a Grecian urn?"  " Considerably less than a year ago..."
15:35 < foks> please stop
15:35 < foks> :(
15:35 < Qcoder02> foks:  Oh come on...   According to some in the US this isn't torture :)
15:35 < Qcoder02> XD
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15:36 < foks> Is Seattle known as the "Emerald City"?
15:36 < mareklug> yes
15:36 < ceradon> yes
15:36 < {Soap}> never heard that
15:36 < Qcoder02> " I have a contact in Mexico, I'd love to have his chili recipe but the US won't let me import munitions..."
15:36 < foks> thanks
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15:37 < mysterytrey> Qcoder02: Hah.
15:37 < Qcoder02> "How many RMT workers does it take to change a light bulb?" " One, but he needs at least 20% of his fellow workers to support him in sympathy..."
15:38 < Qcoder02> "How can you tell if a hot chick really is female?" " Put on a disco record and watch them move!"
15:39 < geniice> good news I found the local second hand bookshop
15:39 < Qcoder02> " I used to know a cross-dresser,    He got very annoyed when peoples costumes burst ..."
15:39 < BarkingFish> lol
15:40 < Qcoder02> (Although that last one needs you to understand something about British theatre ...)
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15:42 < Qcoder02> "Police say there are desperatly trying to trace an indvidual with a split tounge,   It is rumoured they are seeking passage to Ecuador..."
15:43 < Qcoder02> I've got more
15:44 < Qcoder02> If Wikipedia was a stero,  you'd have to tune it carefully to avoid the shock jocks ...
15:44 < Qcoder02> IF Wikipedia was a church,   bible study would be a lot more lively
15:45 < Qcoder02> If Wikipedia was a church,  You;d still look cheap only putting copper in the collection plate...
15:45  * Qcoder02 thinks the channel has gone quiet
15:45 < {Soap}> nah
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15:46 < Qcoder02> If Wikipedia was a church,  you'd be told how the one true architect cast out they that sought joint glory...
15:47 < Qcoder02> (With apologies to those here that have not encountered certain Christian sects...)
15:47 < geniice> this could get interesting:
15:47 < geniice> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9485277/Pc-Keith-Blakelock-murder-new-charge-after-27-years.html
15:47 < {Soap}> Masonry
15:47 < Qcoder02> geniice;  Erm... Quite
15:49 < Qcoder02> If Wikipedia was church,   No one would mind you posting questionable images of the founder...
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15:49 < Qcoder02> (beards  optional)
15:49 < mysterytrey> If Wikipedia was a church, we'd be screwed.
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15:50 < Qcoder02> mysterytrey:  For Commons?
15:50 < Qcoder02> XD
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15:50 < delirious> mareklug: you are a bloody genius    1) i did say google was proving futile    2) you just directed me to my own website  (which would be like asking myself in my irc channel)
15:50 < mareklug> delirious:  no shit.  whois discloses that you are "~jessica"
15:50 < Qcoder02> delirious:  Nah Nah Bloody Genius only do biological sciences stuff...
15:51 < Qcoder02> I'm in very strange mood this evening
15:51 < delirious> thank you for using me for your amusements
15:51 < mysterytrey> Qcoder02: What'd you do?
15:51 < BarkingFish> Can anyone decypher what the freaking hell this is about please? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erinmi_Awo_Alaafin_Oyo&redirect=no&rcid=523310232
15:51 < Qcoder02> The heat must be affecting my ability to make sense on IRC
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15:52 < {Soap}> looks like Ethiopian
15:52 < mareklug> well, qui pro quo.   you could have called in your pizza with minimum fuss.
15:52 < {Soap}> nope, West African
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15:52 < Qcoder02> Hmm, I thought Pizaa takeout was what the travel guide project was for?
15:52 < Qcoder02> XD
15:52 < BarkingFish> you mean they're actually going ahead with that?
15:52 < delirious> well i thought to ask. you chose to answer knowing you were going to be a dick about it
15:53 < Qcoder02> BarkingFish:  They might be
15:53 < {Soap}> BarkingFish: well, there's an RFC
15:53 < {Soap}> or is that over already?
15:53 < mareklug> delirious:  no, dear.  it evolved from YOUR being a dick about it
15:53  * Qcoder02 suddenly has this crazy mental Image of a Wiki Pizza :)
15:53 < delirious> you could have just not replied, like everyone else who didn't have what i as asking for
15:53 < {Soap}> Last time I asked someone put me on the spot for not having a reason t oppose
15:53 < Qcoder02> Hey anyone?  What would a Wiki Pizza have on it?
15:54 < delirious> it eveolved from YOUR being a dick to me
15:54 < Qcoder02> Other than unusal things like squid...
15:54 < {Soap}> Im pretty sure it would have trout somewhere
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15:54 < mareklug> well per that Calgary pizza, tandoori chicken.  sounds fetching.
15:54  * Qcoder02 also wonders if Wikipe-tan keeps squids in a tank somewhere ;)
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15:55 < {Soap}> nah, lolicon fetishists do
15:55 < mysterytrey> IMO, wikipe-tan is portrayed to be slutty.
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15:56 < suicidalzerg> http://torrentfreak.com/demonoid-domain-sale-banned-over-legal-concerns-120818/
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15:57 < mareklug> delirious:  you were treated attentively when you asked for help.  never mind it had fukall to do with en wiki.   the rest is as we shall say, graceful degradation of human discourse due to prissiness
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15:58 < foks> guys, calm yourselfs.
15:58 < foks> *ves
15:59 < delirious> odds were better there might be someone else in Calgary in this channel than any other i am in.   BarkingFish had commented about the lack of conversation here so i thought ok why not ask.
16:00 < mareklug> and you got a lot of help.  so?
16:01 < foks> break it up, please
16:01 < ceradon> foks is a Good Samaritan :)
16:02 < {Soap}> silliest argument Ive seen in a while
16:02 < foks> I am an excellent Samaritan.
16:02 < Qcoder02> BarkingFish:   Is it hot enough to cook an egg yet?
16:02 < mysterytrey> foks: No clue if it isn't your cup of tea, but, there is a 9 person backlog at perm/rollbacker.
16:02 < delirious> i asked about someone being able to SCAN a menu. That is a big hint it wasn't to be found googling despite how much help you felt you were offering.
16:02 < geniice> foks dude there are 200 Samaritans left on the planet
16:03 < mysterytrey> **perm/reviewer
16:03 < BarkingFish> Still 24°c here, Qcoder02, according to the digital weather station sitting on my window ledge :)
16:03 < foks> mysterytrey, no really
16:03 < geniice> delirious what do you want to know?
16:03 < BarkingFish> I don't care what time of day or night it is, I just wanna go swimming, Qcoder02 :)
16:03 < {Soap}> its always funny to see British people complaining about the temperature
16:03 < {Soap}> then again
16:04 < {Soap}> I guess it's midnight over there
16:04 < {Soap}> so 24C is kind of warm for the middle of the night
16:04 < Qcoder02> "It's getting hot...
16:04 < {Soap}> we really need to fix the climate problem
16:05 < BarkingFish> {Soap}, bear in mind what I used to be like when I first came from the frozen north, hot weather still bugs the hell out of me - anything about 20°c and I am into a t-shirt, baseball cap, board shorts and slathered to hell in factor 50 sunblock
16:05 < {Soap}> lol sunblock
16:05 < BarkingFish> I used to be able to go outside in winter in a t-shirt and shorts :)
16:06 < foks> we still do up here ;)
16:06 < BarkingFish> i don't so much "tan" in the sunshine, as go from "raw" to "charcoal" in about 2 hours :D
16:07 < Qcoder02> http://torrentfreak.com/can-porn-be-copyrighted-120817/ ROFL
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16:09 < {Soap}> What can we do to fix global warming quickly?
16:10 < {Soap}> Because, I mean, it's causing famines all over the THird World
16:10 < {Soap}> and malaria
16:10 < geniice>  Qcoder02 per the current interpretation of the  second Amendment to the United States Constitution they haven't got a chance
16:10 < {Soap}> second?
16:10 < mareklug> we could have a nuclear war which would put a lot of dust in the air, thereby reducing the temperature
16:11 < {Soap}> what do guns have to do with porn
16:11 < Qcoder02> Soap: You want to fix Global Warming Quickly? Blow Yellowstone :)
16:11 < {Soap}> or is this just another "you have a right to bare arms ... and other body parts" pun
16:11 < geniice> {Soap} in theory chuck a bunch of sulphur into the high atmosphere but that has undesirable side effectis
16:11 < {Soap}> sulfur is what we're trying to stay away from
16:12 < Demiurge1000> sulphur? nom nom nom!
16:12 < {Soap}> I heard that if we put 1000000000000 algae in the Pacific Ocean they'd suck out all the carbon dioxide and the temperature would go down
16:12 < geniice> {Soap} the second amendment says A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The current supreme court ruling is that the first part doesn't impact the second
16:12 < geniice> {Soap} I'm an industrial chemist. Sulphur isn't too bad
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16:13 < {Soap}> ok
16:13 < {Soap}> what are the undesirable sde effects then?
16:14 < geniice> kills off the ozone layer
16:14 < mareklug> sulphuric acid rain?
16:14 < geniice> and over time acid rain
16:14 < {Soap}> ok
16:14 < {Soap}> so more suntans
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16:14 < {Soap}> and not as many fish and trees
16:14 < BarkingFish> bbiab
16:14 < Demiurge1000> mmm, fish. Nom nom nom
16:15 < {Soap}> at least the algae idea is organic
16:15 < Demiurge1000> teh toxic!
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16:15 < mareklug> it's not just algae.  iirc it's supposed to be lots of iron
16:15 < {Soap}> there must be some gas that acts like an anti-greenhouse gas, that is safe enough to release in huge quantities
16:15 < geniice> no
16:16 < geniice> CO2 to is too damn stable to scrub out
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16:16 < mareklug> it has to be trapped.  welcome to the algae/rain forest
16:16 < geniice> so high atmosphere particulate is the only short term atmospheric option
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16:17 < geniice> mareklug Rain forrest doesn't work too well . Algae is somewhat more viable
16:17 < geniice> or we could paint a bunch of things white
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16:17 < geniice> libya for example
16:17 < {Soap}> maybe if the oceans were white that would be enough
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16:19 < mareklug> is there a chemical way (theoretical) to precipitate CO2 out of the atmosphere?
16:22 < BlastHardcheese> a lot of ways
16:22 < BlastHardcheese> calcium will bind to it to form limestone
16:23 < {Soap}> ok
16:23 < {Soap}> whats the best source of calcium?
16:23 < mareklug> 1% milk
16:23 < Frood> i just came across Omegle Spy.
16:23 < ceradon> ha
16:24 < BlastHardcheese> but if you wanted to do that to scrub CO2 from the atmosphere, the question is where do you get the energy from
16:24 < BlastHardcheese> since burning fossil fuels to do it will just add back more CO2 than you're removing
16:24 < mareklug> the sun.  you would have some huge flying thongs with solar energy for input
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16:26 < BlastHardcheese> yeah your mother's thongs would probably be big enough to do it :I
16:27 < mareklug> thongs are aerodynamic.  think big.
16:27 < Frood> ...wat
16:28 < Fluffernutter> ...whut
16:28 < {Soap}> just using solar energy in general can stop global warming, since it takes away energy that would otherwise go to heating the Earth
16:29 < mareklug> big thong-shaped aerofoil factories in the sky, precipitating CO2 out of the air, powered by sun
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16:34 < suicidalzerg> SURROUND THE SOLAR SYSTEM IN A DYSON SPHERE!
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16:41 < BarkingFish> well I'm outta here for the night, gonna go try to get some sleep. I doubt I will, but no harm in trying :)
16:41 < BarkingFish> night all
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16:55 < Athyria> I love you guys.
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16:55 < Frood> Athyria: every time you say that I imagine you're drink.
16:55 < Sepultura> In the Article about Operation Payback is missing how big was the damage for corporation which suffered under DDoS Attacks
16:56 < Athyria> Frood: What if I'm always drunk?
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16:56 < Frood> then you must be sober when you say it.
16:56 < Athyria> GorillaWarfare knows it's true.
16:56 < Sepultura> Is it possible to pay with VISA if they are down cause DDoS?
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16:57 < Athyria> But seriously, I don't need to be drunk to love you guys. After what I've been through, it doesn't take much to seem amazing.
16:57 < Athyria> And you do seem amazing.
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16:58 < Frood> I seem pretty ordinary.
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17:02  * Demiurge1000 is at least 14% amazing.
17:03 < {Soap}> id be surprised if VISA's site ever went down
17:03 < Demiurge1000> Sepultura: Sometimes not.
17:03 < Demiurge1000> twas down for me due to DDoS, once
17:04 < {Soap}> and that affects the servers that they use to process transactions ?
17:04 < Demiurge1000> That's once out of about 500 times I used their services online, though.
17:04 < Sepultura> Demiurge1000: so they are losing profit when they are attacked. How much do they loose per hour?
17:04 < Demiurge1000> I'm not sure they lost anything in my case - I just paid once they were online again, which was the following day
17:04 < mareklug> Soap no.  that's just the website.  afaik the point of sale networks don't get ddossed
17:04 < {Soap}> ok
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17:05 < Sepultura> mareklug: Anonymous did not attack the POS Server?
17:05 < Sepultura> mareklug: wasn't smart for anonymous.
17:05 < Demiurge1000> There is no single server
17:05 < Demiurge1000> for obvious reasons
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17:06 < GorillaWarfare> Ah, super delay
17:06 < GorillaWarfare> Athyria's drunk?
17:06 < {Soap}> hm
17:06 < Sepultura> Anonymous wanted to punish visa for denying Wikileaks
17:06 < Ebe123> I remember
17:06 < mysterytrey> How do you deny wikileaks?
17:06 < Sepultura> disallowing
17:07 < Sepultura> wikileaks to collect spends
17:07 < Sepultura> sorry wrong word
17:07  * Athyria huggles GorillaWarfare.
17:07 < {Soap}> you mean, WikiLeaks was publishing the credit card numbers and things people bought?
17:07 < {Soap}> how did they get that info in the first place?
17:08 < Sepultura> {Soap}: no. Wikileaks collected spends via visa. VISA kicked them off. Anonymous punished VISA for it
17:08 < GorillaWarfare> Haha, hello ^.^
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17:09 < GorillaWarfare> I am the happiest panda right now. Just found a $115 pair of trousers at Goodwill for $5 :)
17:09 < Qcoder02> VISA made a commerical decision
17:09 < Qcoder02> Using illegal harrasment tactics would not have made them change it
17:09 < Demiurge1000> What if they had used legal harrassment tactics?
17:10 < Qcoder02> That might have had an impact
17:10 < Frood> GorillaWarfare: my brother got an old CRT projector for $15
17:10 < Frood> they go for $600 or so on eBay
17:10 < {Soap}> i got a desk for $6
17:10 < Sepultura> Qcoder02: I don't say it is good or bad. I wanted to improve the article.
17:10 < Frood> (at Goodwill)
17:10 < {Soap}> six years ago. Im still using it
17:10 < GorillaWarfare> Nice!
17:11 < GorillaWarfare> Goodwill is the best
17:11 < Qcoder02> The thing is Anonymous targets the wrong things...
17:11 < GorillaWarfare> Once you sort through all the muumuus and short-alls, that is...
17:11 < Athyria> Anonymous isn't as smart as Goodwill.
17:11 < Qcoder02> If it wanted to do serious damage it would look through the information that's already out there
17:11 < Athyria> ...or much of anything, for that matter.
17:11 < Sepultura> Qcoder02: wrong things?
17:11 < {Soap}> I donated a 19" CRT monitor to Goodwill a while ago
17:11 < Qcoder02> Sepultra: DDOSing RIAA does nothing... except make RIAA madder
17:12 < Qcoder02> Revaling how much RIAA paid in tax would
17:12 < Frood> They stopped taking CRT here a while ago
17:12 < Frood> Qcoder02: so? Fuck RIAA
17:12 < Frood> make them mad
17:12 < Sepultura> Qcoder02: if Anonymous wanted to hurt VISA they would have DDoSed Transaction servers.
17:12 < Frood> what are they going to do, make bullshit lawsuits?
17:12 < Qcoder02> You do not hit a beehive with a stick
17:13 < Qcoder02> Which of course equally applies to RIAA actions on piracy
17:13 < Qcoder02> ;)
17:13 < Qcoder02> Sepultra: So you support 'economic' terrorism?
17:13 < {Soap}> is it even possible to DOS the transaction servers though?
17:13 < {Soap}> WOuldnt they be cut off from the wider Internet?
17:14 < Frood> {Soap}: if they have a single port open
17:14 < Frood> yes
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17:14 < GorillaWarfare> Heya Steven_Zhang
17:14 < Frood> but they presumably don't connect over internet
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17:14 < Frood> they do over phone line, no idea how that works.
17:14 < Sepultura> {Soap}: if they are connected to the Internet they have an IP Number
17:14 < Frood> like FAX maybe?
17:15 < Athyria> Gods, I love wikipedians.
17:15 < Athyria> So completely bonkers.
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17:15 < eggcentric> wazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzup
17:15 < {Soap}> hi Egg
17:15 < Athyria> See, bonkers.
17:15 < Sepultura> Frood: but you can't call a telephone which is busy
17:15 < eggcentric> alrighty there soapy
17:16 < Athyria> Hello, eggcentric. Are you grey?
17:16 < eggcentric> grey?
17:16 < eggcentric> I have a grey-ish sig....
17:16 < eggcentric> otherwise....?
17:16 < Sepultura> Frood: how can you make 2 Transactions at the same time if it is over Telephone line??
17:16 < Athyria> Guess not.
17:16 < eggcentric> whatcha mean by gray?
17:16 < Athyria> I'm not sure.
17:17 < Athyria> But if you were, you probably would have known.
17:17 < Athyria> I guess.
17:17 < Athyria> Maybe.
17:17  * Athyria may not have entirely thought this through.
17:17 < eggcentric> are you talking about things with huge eyes FROM OUTER SPACE?
17:17 < Athyria> ARE YOU?
17:17 < eggcentric> not until you made me!
17:17 < {Soap}> grey can mean "not environmentalist
17:17 < eggcentric> shit, you're the alien
17:17  * Athyria panics.
17:18 < eggcentric> well what is a "not environmentalist"
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17:18 < Sepultura> Qcoder02: proving that Scientology is worse than Al Qaida had no impact. Only if you hurt them by stopping them scamming other people had an impact.
17:18 < eggcentric> in some senses that could mean someoneone who thought it was an ethically good idea to destory the environment
17:18 < eggcentric> do such people exist? I hope not but they probably do
17:19 < Qcoder02> Sepultra: I asked if you supported 'economic' terrorisim
17:19 < Athyria> Probably, but more common are probably folks who just don't give a rat's arse about ethics.
17:19 < {Soap}> well some environmentalists divide themselves into different shades of green, and anyone who doesnt belong with any of those shades is a Gray
17:19 < {Soap}> (or Grey)
17:19 < Sepultura> Qcoder02: I am no Member of Anonymous
17:19 < Sepultura> I have never DDoSed
17:19 < Qcoder02> Answer the question
17:20 < {Soap}> cant seem to find where I read that though
17:20 < Athyria> A lot of environmentalists don't give a rat's arse about ethics either.
17:20 < {Soap}> maybe its not widely used
17:20 < eggcentric> I got up very late today, tried to marshall the manx grand prix pracitce session but it was mostly cancelled, then went to the pub where if I'd had the slightest competence at all in saying the right thing I'd have got laid but instead got stuck with some boke boasting about how much cocaine he used to take
17:20 < Athyria> O_o
17:20 < eggcentric> ah I see, well the thing about ethics is it's mideway between morality and law
17:20 < BlastHardcheese> that is a cool story, bro
17:20 < eggcentric> that makes it... difficult...
17:20 < Athyria> There are defined codes.
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17:21 < Athyria> I had to read an engineering one once. It was bizarre.
17:21 < eggcentric> it comes from the brool story co
17:21 < Sepultura> I am not trying to destabilize the economic of other nations
17:21 < eggcentric> an engineering what now?
17:21 < eggcentric> I am, I moved here to not pay UK tax :D
17:22 < Athyria> Engineering code of ethics.
17:22 < {Soap}> http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/009499.html
17:22 < {Soap}> Grays, of course, are those who deny there's a need to do anything at all, whether as individuals or as a society. They range from the most blatantly dishonest and self-interested people (climate scientists who take oil company money to dispute the clear scientific consensus on climate change, or "contrarians" like Bjorn Lomborg who make up specious "skeptical" arguments in order to make
17:22 < {Soap}> money)
17:22 < {Soap}> to principled, smart people who lack the facts (an increasingly small minority) or whose worldviews are just too set in an earlier way of thinking to understand the present-day realities of living on planet in overshoot. The epicenter of gray thinking is the nest of lobbyists and industry-funded think tanks on K Street in Washington, D.C.
17:22 < Athyria> I was pretending to be an engineer at the time, so they made me read it. Jerks.
17:22 < eggcentric> I think after this MIT guy
17:22 < eggcentric> Richard someone?
17:23 < eggcentric> the deniers have lost a LOT of cerdibility
17:23 < eggcentric> not that they ever really should have had any
17:23 < eggcentric> but now they're looking little better than intelligent designers
17:23 < Sepultura> Qcoder02: The USA is responsible for creation of Al Qaida
17:24 < eggcentric> not that I have a problem with Bjorn Lomberg
17:24 < eggcentric> in fact I tend to think he's mostly correct
17:24 < Qcoder02> Why don't you answer the question?
17:24 < eggcentric> there is an irony in that because the right has mostly for got knows why decided to start being into denialissm and other crap
17:24 < eggcentric> climate change policies have been mostly thought up by a fairly leftist crowd
17:24 < Qcoder02> And the US was NOT responsible for Al Qaisa
17:25 < Qcoder02> *Al Qaida
17:25 < eggcentric> which even more amusingly makes the righties decide the climate change thing is political
17:25 < Sepultura> I answered the question. Economic terrorism: attempt to Destabilize an Economic of a nation
17:25 < eggcentric> cause right wingers basically don't think properly
17:25 < eggcentric> where as left wingers think too much
17:25 < Sepultura> Qcoder02: yes they are. They funded Muhajedeen
17:25 < eggcentric> Muhajedeen's a generic term bitch
17:26 < eggcentric> look at all the muhajedeen who got exedcuted in iran in a horrifc sitaution in the 80s
17:26 < Qcoder02> Sepultra: You said Anonymous should haeve attacked  Transaction servers...  How is that not destabalizing an economy?
17:26 < eggcentric> this is horrifc shit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_executions_of_Iranian_political_prisoners
17:26 < Sepultura> Qcoder02: I said if they wanted to hurt visa they would have attacked transaction servers
17:27 < Qcoder02> Ah OK
17:27 < eggcentric> so... what's the "goss" on WP atm?
17:28 < eggcentric> you don't really get that from ANI and I cba to look at wikipediocracy etc
17:28 < eggcentric> who's hot... who's cold....
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17:29 < Sepultura> Qcoder02: US funded terrorists which should fight soviet army in Afghanistan
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17:29 < Frood> Can someone please semi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Urkel
17:29 < Sepultura> Qcoder02: these terrorists founded Al Qaida. So The USA is responsible for Al Qaida
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17:30 < Qcoder02> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/03/text_talk_legal_status/ hmm
17:30 < eggcentric> I can't believe it's saturday night and I'm not sleeping with this irish girl who I got as far as buying me drinks ffs, I am such a fuckup, been out of practice recently due to hormone issues, I might as well be 12 years old
17:31 < eggcentric> if no one here is gonna give the wikipedia goss, are there any wiki-injustices I can sort out
17:31 < eggcentric> there's so many fucking injustices on wikipedia
17:31 < Frood> eggcentric: You alright?
17:32 < eggcentric> yeah I'm great frood :)
17:32 < eggcentric> maybe a bit intoxicated but it is 1:30 on sunday morning, I'm allowd to be :D
17:32 < GorillaWarfare> Misread that as 7:30
17:32 < GorillaWarfare> Was somewhat concerned...
17:32 < eggcentric> hahahahahahah
17:33 < Frood> anyone up for a game of TF2? :P
17:33 < eggcentric> I moved recently, there's a pub basically in my vasement
17:33 < eggcentric> it fucking rocks
17:33 < eggcentric> and a swimming pool, jacuzzi and sauna too
17:34 < Frood> I have...
17:34 < Frood> a yard?
17:34 < GorillaWarfare> Frood: If only I was actually good at it...
17:34 < Frood> GorillaWarfare: have you tried MvM yet?
17:34 < eggcentric> what's TF2?
17:34 < Frood> team fortress 2
17:34 < eggcentric> team fortress?
17:34 < eggcentric> gotcha
17:34 < GorillaWarfare> Frood: I've not
17:34 < Frood> it's pretty fun.
17:34 < eggcentric> what is MvM?
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17:35 < Frood> Mann vs. Machine
17:35 < eggcentric> well if I played you
17:35 < eggcentric> it would be Mann V Man :)
17:35 < GorillaWarfare> Frood: First person shooters... really not my thing
17:36 < eggcentric> althoguh I'm probably gonna be chucked off the IOM in a couple of weeks, it depends on a court case
17:36 < {Soap}> hm
17:36 < {Soap}> there are a lot of people talking about that game lately
17:36 < {Soap}> is it new?
17:36 < Frood> {Soap}: no, just a huge update the other day.
17:36 < eggcentric> it made a big difference or what?
17:36 < eggcentric> what do you actually do in it?
17:37 < Frood> anyway, if anyone wants to join me, i'll be on twofort.fugworld.com
17:37 < geniice> hmm we appear tyo risk getting sucked into some lame politics http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/08/17/has-guido-fawkes-been-puffing-up-his-wikipedia-entry/
17:38 < eggcentric> er... anyone want a game of minesweeper flags...
17:38 < Demiurge1000> geniice: That evil tommorris blokey has been encouraging it
17:39 < geniice> tommorris is cool even if he did get suckered into taking vocational A-levels
17:40 < Demiurge1000> geniice: I also suspect him of being a closet anti-fascist, judging by some of his WP edits
17:40 < geniice> tommorris is not in the closet
17:41 < Demiurge1000> So he openly admits to being ideologically opposed to right-wing morons?
17:41 < eggcentric> what the pro;em with gf updating stuff?
17:42 < eggcentric> you can't really call GF a moron
17:42 < eggcentric> unless you think that moroni is inheret in the term right-wing
17:42 < Demiurge1000> Depends how much you want to keep her.
17:42 < ceradon> Demiurge1000, Lol.
17:42 < Demiurge1000> Anyways, the person claiming to be Paul Staines, seems to make a fairly convincing argument.
17:42 < Demiurge1000> Other people... not so much.
17:43 < eggcentric> he shouldn't be making an argument at all realy
17:43 < eggcentric> he's just there to pull people down
17:43 < eggcentric> ffs before being a blogger, he failed at running a hedge fund before the credit crunch
17:43 < eggcentric> to fail at running a hedge fund in 2006 or whenever
17:43 < Demiurge1000> Mr Centric, I shall deport you to Rio, there to meet a gentleman called Rob, then you will learn the error of your ways.
17:43 < eggcentric> takes a special kind of incomeptence
17:43 < Demiurge1000> Gotta spell it to do it!
17:44 < eggcentric> please do
17:44 < eggcentric> don't wait
17:44 < eggcentric> it's not even deportation
17:44 < eggcentric> just gimeee the fucking ticket
17:44 < eggcentric> (although my passport atm is under the posession of the manx judiciary)
17:44 < Demiurge1000> I never did quite work out the paradox of the guy being obsessed with a city whose main feature is a rather gay-centric carnival, constantly being accused of being homophobic :D
17:45 < Demiurge1000> eggcentric: Don't worry, they don't still use [[birching]], even for miscreants like you
17:45 < eggcentric> I'd pay for a birching from the right person
17:46 < Fluffernutter> what in the world
17:46 < Demiurge1000> He didn't mean you.
17:46 < Fluffernutter> that much is clear :)
17:47 < Fluffernutter> however, it was quite an utterance to flip back to this channel and see
17:47 < eggcentric> wgat guy is this btw
17:47 < eggcentric> are we talkign about off2riorob or whatever his name was?
17:48 < Demiurge1000> The interest in Rio was genuine, apparently.
17:48 < RexxS> no we're talking about getting the right person to birch you
17:48 < Demiurge1000> I fully imagine him being there in 2016.
17:48 < eggcentric> listen
17:48 < eggcentric> if wikipedians
17:48 < eggcentric> are willing to contribute
17:48 < eggcentric> to find the right person to brich me
17:48 < eggcentric> I am the first to say
17:48 < eggcentric> I will help you with that
17:48 < eggcentric> I have some good suggestions
17:49 < eggcentric> (also I wish I was facing the birch rather than up to 4 years in jail)
17:49 < ceradon> Do tell.
17:50 < ceradon> Wrong channel :P
17:50 < RexxS> does this mean you're not coming to a wikimeetup until 2016?
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17:50 < Demiurge1000> ... in Rio.
17:50 < eggcentric> ha!
17:50 -!- DeltaQuad is now known as DQ|away
17:50 < eggcentric> it depends... I think I am getting a very favourable pre sentence reprot
17:50 < eggcentric> I think jail is only about 25% chance
17:50 < RexxS> we have meetup of the Manchester Cabal next week
17:50 < Demiurge1000> Also, I suggest you ask your lawyer to make the suggestion. I'm sure the magistrates or whatever find it amusing, even if they can't actually do it.
17:51 < eggcentric> it the keeping on the island thing which will be hard, it will be 50/50 at best
17:51 < RexxS> (there is no cabal)
17:51 < GorillaWarfare> eggcentric: What'd you do?
17:51 < eggcentric> I can't leave the island till septlember
17:51 < eggcentric> I imported controlled substances
17:51 < GorillaWarfare> Ah
17:51 < Qcoder02> As in?
17:51 < Demiurge1000> RexxS: I heard the Manchester cabal tried to overthrow WP:RA. True? Not true?
17:51 < eggcentric> opiun, hashish, dihydrocodeine
17:52 < Qcoder02> Ops?
17:52 < eggcentric> on the bright side I set the record for the strongest hash ever found on the IOM
17:52  * RexxS goes to look up WP:RA
17:52 < eggcentric> but they don't seem to think that is in my favour
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17:52 < Demiurge1000> RexxS: No-one is fooled by your acting all innocent, yknow :)
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17:52 < eggcentric> it is fairly obvious that wikipedians in the north west
17:53 < RexxS> errm - not true
17:53 < eggcentric> are going to be the dodgies wikipedians
17:53 < eggcentric> with the possible exception of the north east
17:53 < RexxS> we just wanted to improve the article
17:53 < eggcentric> I want to meet phil nash or whatever his name is
17:53 < Demiurge1000> There are no Wikipedians in the north east.
17:53 < eggcentric> he sounds a great bloke to me
17:53 < eggcentric> that is why I was really interested in the liverpool meetup
17:53 < RexxS> ah - rh&e
17:54 < eggcentric> yeah#
17:54 < RexxS> he was good fun
17:54 < eggcentric> I get hte sense he'd be the life of the party actually
17:54 < RexxS> not quite
17:54 < eggcentric> might be wrong cause it's not as though I've ever met him
17:54 < RexxS> that would be me
17:54 < eggcentric> but he's the wikipedian I wanna meat
17:54 < eggcentric> haha
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17:55 < RexxS> he was rather shy actually
17:55 < RexxS> but that's cuz the rest of us are so loud
17:55 < lucasoutloud> My state has a dedicated wikipedia channel
17:55 < lucasoutloud> I'm the only one who ever connects
17:55 < eggcentric> that's kinda surprising actually
17:55 < RexxS> Worm, Boing, Bazonka, etc.
17:55 < eggcentric> many moons ago I went to one in london and everyone was a bit of awuss tbh
17:55 < Demiurge1000> I have a state-related WP IRC channel too.
17:55 < eggcentric> apart from theresa knott
17:56 < eggcentric> although I suppose up norfff
17:56 < eggcentric> people gonna have a bit more of a personality about them
17:56 < eggcentric> I loved ms knott though
17:56 < eggcentric> she could have had a laugh
17:56 < RexxS> well there certainly arew some characters
17:56 < eggcentric> drank everyone else there apart from me under the table if she'd wanted to I bet
17:56 < mareklug> lucasoutloud:  what's it called?
17:57 < eggcentric> seriously there was one bloke there who came there from a choir meeting
17:57 < eggcentric> but this is ages ago
17:57 < eggcentric> good, there better be
17:57 < RexxS> it happens in London
17:57 < eggcentric> mayve could start an isle of man meetup
17:57 < eggcentric> who wants to come over here!
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17:57 < RexxS> you should
17:58 < RexxS> i'll see if we can get visas
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17:58 < Demiurge1000> and access to the prison
17:58 < eggcentric> aye I could but I only know of two other editors, and one of them I only "met" today (i.e. saw them editing same article as me)
17:58 < eggcentric> rofl yeah visit me in prison
17:58 < Demiurge1000> [[How to escape from Manx jails]]
17:59 < eggcentric> you don't need a visit to go to isle of man btw (I  can't tell if you're joking or not due to text, I assume you are but if you're not...)
17:59 < eggcentric> *visa
17:59 < RexxS> we could smuggle you some cake hidden in bags of hash
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17:59 < ceradon> Good
17:59 < eggcentric> really? cake for lil' ole me?
17:59 < ceradon> God
17:59 < RexxS> well best to assume everything i say is joking
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17:59 < eggcentric> fantastic
17:59 < ceradon> Are you people really talking aout this?
17:59  * ceradon facepalms
17:59 < eggcentric> I assume everything ANYONE says they're joking
17:59 < eggcentric> and then bad things happen :(
18:00 < RexxS> not much point in being on IRC otherwise
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18:00 < eggcentric> awwwwwright ceradon what's your more cerbral alternative?
18:00 < eggcentric> the mechanics of horse buggery?
18:00 < RexxS> just need an aroange box
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18:01 < RexxS> orange box
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18:01 < RexxS> not even that for a pony
18:01 < eggcentric> I get what you're saying
18:01 < eggcentric> but
18:01 < eggcentric> what if they run away from you
18:02 < eggcentric> maybe could stick em on a treadmill
18:02 < eggcentric> fuck me
18:02 < RexxS> then you know you weren't the one
18:02 < eggcentric> treadmill with a sophisitcated speed control
18:02 < eggcentric> you could literally get the computer to do the thrusting
18:02 < eggcentric> this product must have literally tens of potential clients
18:03 < eggcentric> or if you adapt it to camels
18:03 < eggcentric> millions
18:03 < RexxS> most of them in this channel
18:03 < eggcentric> yeah I'm getting Pm'd as we speak
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18:03 < eggcentric> some guy called ceradon
18:03 < RexxS> get a patent quick
18:04 < ceradon> eggcentric: Umm
18:04 < ceradon> wat
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18:04  * ceradon is puzzled
18:04 < eggcentric> haha
18:04 < eggcentric> oh he's now sayign that I shouldn't have let the room know
18:04 < eggcentric> sorry ceradon, it's nothing, you ain't messaged me asking for bestiality products at all
18:05 < eggcentric> not one bit
18:05 < eggcentric> you definitely did nothing of the sort
18:05 < eggcentric> you certainly don't like a bit of dromedary loving
18:05 < eggcentric> and if anyone else thinks you do
18:05 < eggcentric> for whatever reason
18:05 < eggcentric> you can just tell em from me
18:05 < eggcentric> I have no reason to think there is such a thing going on
18:06 < ceradon> eggcentric: I'd appreciate it if you would stop trolling, Or i'll call ops.
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18:06 < eggcentric> :D
18:07 < TeeTylerToe> "Ryan's tax plan great for Romney"...  I dunno, with romney paying 13% and ryan paying 16% how much better can it get?
18:07 < eggcentric> actually that kinda reminds me about another incident in the pub recently
18:07 < eggcentric> somsone came in
18:07 < eggcentric> and it was UNBELIEVABLY obvious he has aspergers
18:07 < eggcentric> and me being a nice chap I decided to engage him in conversation
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18:07 < eggcentric> and it came to it that he said
18:08 < Demiurge1000> eggcentric: Since it's you telling us about it, we don't need the gloss "in the pub", actually. We cannot imagine you in any other environment.
18:08 < mareklug> well, jail
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18:08 < Demiurge1000> ... true
18:08 < eggcentric> (I'm not in the pub that oftend demiurge, I'm just constantly drunk)
18:08 < eggcentric> something along the lines
18:08 < eggcentric> of he had moved recently
18:08 < eggcentric> with the aid of someone or other (acryonym)
18:09 < eggcentric> so I asked, who is (acronym)
18:09 < eggcentric> and it turned out it was an autism thing
18:09 < eggcentric> and I said, ah, I thought you had aspergers actually
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18:09 < eggcentric> and at that, he literally threw his pint glass to the other side of the room
18:09 < eggcentric> and ran off
18:09 < eggcentric> very odd
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18:10 < eggcentric> anyway I mention that to point out
18:10 < eggcentric> people who are over sensitive to things are silly billies
18:10 < Demiurge1000> Even those who are over sensitive to alcohol, Mr Centric?
18:10 < lucasoutloud> ;~; Google Chrome is about to stop supporting my OS
18:10 < Qcoder02> eggecentric: There is sensitvity and there is culrutal expectancy
18:11 < Ebe123> That's too bad
18:11 < eggcentric> I'm not over sensitive to alcohol, I just drink far too much of it
18:11 < eggcentric> what OS is that lol?
18:11 < lucasoutloud> OS X 10.5
18:11 < mareklug> lucasoutloud:  it's a late 2009 iMac, yes?  a core 2 duo?
18:11 < Qcoder02> eggcentric:  You think you drink too much?
18:11 < lucasoutloud> mareklug: more like 2009
18:11 < Qcoder02> eggcentric:  So do uo think you have a drinking problem?
18:11 < Qcoder02> *you
18:11 < eggcentric> I think sober people have a drinking problem
18:12 < eggcentric> wtf 10.5 why is chrome not gonna support htat?
18:12 < lucasoutloud> I actually know a recovering alchoholic
18:12 < Qcoder02> eggcentric:  Erm
18:12 < lucasoutloud> eggcentric: Who knows, maybe because Java is deprecated on the system since Apple ships their own version of it
18:12 < mareklug> lucasoutloud:  there were two iMac releases in 2006.  first one a core duo and the second a core 2 duo.  which is yours?
18:12 < Qcoder02> I took a decison when I was 18 to avoid booze
18:12 < eggcentric> nah Qc... by the majority of definitions I havae  drinking problem, but my REAL problem is the illegality of other drugs
18:13 < eggcentric> if I could get ahold of whatever I wanted, I wouldn't drink
18:13 < lucasoutloud> mareklug: core 2 the duo
18:13 < eggcentric> I have an intoxication problem, sure
18:13 < Qcoder02> And why do you need these other drugs?
18:13 < lucasoutloud> But to be honest, it's all about the pentiums. Just ask Weird Al.
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18:13 < mareklug> lucasoutloud:  so you can upgrade the os even to lion.
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18:13 < lucasoutloud> yeah
18:13 < eggcentric> cause life is better with drugs
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18:13 < lucasoutloud> but I don't feel like forking money over to Crapple
18:14 < GrenBaykre> Um... so is this a Japanese or American company? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7-Eleven
18:14 < eggcentric> you might be wise in terms of never taking drink/drugs
18:14 < eggcentric> but only cause you'll never know what you're missign
18:14 < Qcoder02> eggcentric:  And why is life better with the drugs?
18:14 < lucasoutloud> GrenBaykre: American, I believe
18:14 < TeeTylerToe> ie9 doesn't support XP
18:14 < lucasoutloud> Oh so I thought?
18:14 < lucasoutloud> wait who on Earth would still use IE
18:14 < mareklug> lucasoutloud:  it isn't that much money.  $20 for upgrade to Snow Leopard and similar $ for Lion
18:14 < Qcoder02> eggcentric: If you've had  what should have been normal decongestant give you a panic/manic attack then you would not do drugs
18:15 < GrenBaykre> lucasoutloud: What's with the dual mentions of Japan?
18:15 < lucasoutloud> yeah but I prefer $0 when it comes to minor changes to my OS
18:15 < TeeTylerToe> people perpetuating the myth that ie4 won the browser wars and was much better than netscape
18:15 < eggcentric> because what you experience is in your brain (ultimately), and drugs can stimulate that better than your normal senses
18:15 < lucasoutloud> GrenBaykre: I'm not sure. I thought it was american. I could be wrong
18:15 < eggcentric> psuedophedrine or similar by any chance Qc?
18:15 < GrenBaykre> "7-Eleven is part of an international chain of convenience stores, operating under Seven-Eleven Japan Co. Ltd, which in turn is owned by Seven & I Holdings Co. of Japan.[2]"
18:15 < TeeTylerToe> it boggles my mind how often chrome updates
18:15 < Qcoder02> Yes
18:15 < eggcentric> yeah not all drugs work the same way
18:15 < mareklug> lucasoutloud:  keeping your os patched and current is hardly minor changes
18:15 < TeeTylerToe> 7-11 is japanese?
18:16 < eggcentric> pseudophedrine is a potent stimulant when it comes down to it
18:16 < lucasoutloud> GrenBaykre: It was bought out by a Japanese firm in 1991. It used to be exclusively american.
18:16 < lucasoutloud> If you look at History
18:16 < GrenBaykre> TeeTylerToe: That's what you get for running Google cancer on your machine. Might as well hand all over your hard drive to Estonian hackers right away since it's the same thing as their rootkits.
18:16 < eggcentric> but there are whole classes of drugs that work in entirely different ways
18:16 < GrenBaykre> lucasoutloud: Hmm...
18:16 < TeeTylerToe> 0.o
18:16 < Qcoder02> eggcentric: Because of what happend with the psedoephedrine , i left a note on my medical record that I should NOT be prescribed it
18:16 < lucasoutloud> mareklug: I don't see a big difference in 10.5 and later versions other than integrated twitter support and an app store. Both make me sick
18:16 < eggcentric> well yeah that's only sensible
18:16 < Ebe123> psedoephedrine...
18:17 < eggcentric> be pretty stupid to take something that disagreed with you like that
18:17 < Qcoder02> Subsquently, the decongestant formula in the UK was changed ...
18:17 < Ebe123> formulations always change
18:17 < Ebe123> Go to a compounding pharmacy for a different
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18:18 < Qcoder02> I also left a note on my file about not being prescribed certain other things...
18:18 < eggcentric> I think the thing is
18:18 < eggcentric> look at that recent statement by russell brand
18:18 < Qcoder02> Like an amnesiac used in dental work
18:18 < eggcentric> he said something like
18:18 < eggcentric> he is jealous of himself when he was taking heroin
18:18 < eggcentric> the way the sun reports it, it's like blah blah blah evils of drugs
18:18 < eggcentric> to any sensible person, it should be blah blah blah wonders of drugs
18:18 < eggcentric> give everyone heroin
18:19 < eggcentric> it's so good it's better than being russell brand
18:19 < Ebe123> Heroin, why not morphine
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18:19 < eggcentric> same thing for all intents and purpsoes
18:19 < Qcoder02> Because of a dental problem I got sent to a clinic for 'nervous' dental patients... I asked what they used...
18:19 < eggcentric> only difference comes when you inject it anyway
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18:20 < Qcoder02> .. as a form of amnesiac, and when I found out I refused to deal with that clinic...
18:20 < eggcentric> why were you sent to a nervous clinic?
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18:20 < {Soap}> Nervous dental patients
18:20 < eggcentric> and an "amnesiac" - what is that?
18:20 < eggcentric> are you talking about a benzo?
18:20 < eggcentric> cause they won't make you forget stuff except at really high doses
18:20 < Qcoder02> Well it was something closely related I think...
18:20 < eggcentric> the stuff about roofies being a licence to rape is bullshit
18:20 < Qcoder02> At the time I'd been having memory problems anyway...
18:20 < lucasoutloud> Why are there so many parodies of Fifty Shades of Grey?
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18:21 < eggcentric> Qc out of interest
18:21 < eggcentric> would you hypothetically have a problem with being given DMT
18:21 < Qcoder02> What is DMT?
18:21 < eggcentric> it is the exact same chemical
18:21 < eggcentric> that your body produces when you go to sleep
18:21 < eggcentric> to make you dream
18:21 < eggcentric> the only difference is it's given to you awak
18:21 < eggcentric> e
18:21 < {Soap}> i thought that was serotonin
18:22 < eggcentric> (I'm just trying to work out your precise objection to drugs here)
18:22 < Qcoder02> eggcentric: I don't have an objection to appropriate drug use
18:22 < eggcentric> (not that I have problem with people not taking drugs UNLESS they're heavy boozers)
18:22 < lucasoutloud> >steampunk cocktail book on Amazon
18:22 < lucasoutloud> should I get it
18:22 < eggcentric> aye it hard to say what's appropriate really
18:22 < mareklug> lucasoutloud:  "An upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard frees up about 7GB of hard disk space. This has more to do with removing redundant components like printer drivers (which are downloaded on demand in Snow Leopard) than removing code specific to PowerPC."  more here: http://www.diffen.com/difference/Leopard_(Mac_OS_X)_vs_Snow_Leopard_(Mac_OS_X)
18:22 < eggcentric> I do think that anyone with an interest in neuroscience
18:22 < Ebe123> No
18:22 < eggcentric> who doesn't have depression
18:22 < eggcentric> should take strong halluciongens
18:23 < eggcentric> it's so obvious
18:23 < Ebe123> Interest in pharmacy and pharmacolofy
18:23 < Qcoder02> eggcentric : I take issue with some of the claims made by recreational drug advocates...
18:23 < eggcentric> what claims are these?
18:23 < Ebe123> I think drugs are not bad, but the people using them
18:23 < Qcoder02> Claims that  things like hallucinogens are 'mind-expanders'
18:23 < Qcoder02> They aren't
18:23 < eggcentric> why are the people using them bad?
18:24 < Ebe123> They arn't
18:24 < eggcentric> they ARE mind expanders
18:24 < eggcentric> they really are
18:24 < lucasoutloud> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006ZT0EZQ?ie=UTF8&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=6738&tag=100freebooks-20&creativeASIN=B006ZT0EZQ&utm_source=Best+Of+OneHundredFreeBooks+Daily&utm_campaign=1b2d83ecac-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email
18:24 < Qcoder02> Yes, but people get bad trips
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18:24 < Qcoder02> The reaction is NOT predictable
18:24 < eggcentric> I mean
18:24 < eggcentric> most peopel will never experience synethesia
18:24 < eggcentric> but most people on them will
18:24 < eggcentric> as a simple exampel
18:24 < Ebe123> It can be predictable
18:24 < eggcentric> well it depends on the drug
18:24 < eggcentric> some are certainly not predictable in a sense
18:24 < eggcentric> but
18:25 < Ebe123> Do not take if stressed
18:25 < eggcentric> it's not as if
18:25 < eggcentric> you are stuck with the consequence
18:25 < Qcoder02> I have had ils synethesia  related to  Migrane...
18:25 < eggcentric> for ever
18:25 < eggcentric> s
18:25 < eggcentric> well tbh Qc
18:25 < eggcentric> depending on your migraines, and especially if you have epilepsy as well
18:25 < eggcentric> you have quite possibly experienced a lot of these things anyway
18:25 < Qcoder02> And I have had freaky shit happen to me that was a bit tripy
18:25 < eggcentric> in which case the argtument for you to take them
18:25 < eggcentric> is less than most people
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18:26 < eggcentric> the other thing, by the way, is the argument about whether to take them or not is compeltely independent in my mind from the legality of them
18:26 < Qcoder02> I once dreamt that I could see my own body in bed...
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18:26 < Qcoder02> and was able to lie down on top of it
18:26 < lucasoutloud> I have always wondered what a good trip is like
18:26 < Qcoder02> I've also had dreams of strange creatures in my room...
18:26 < {Soap}> an out of body experience?
18:27 < {Soap}> or just a dream?
18:27 < eggcentric> when I was about 14 or 15 up to when I was about 20 you could buy shrooms in london legally from shops and make shroom juice out of them
18:27 < {Soap}> then again, most people would probably say that OBE's *are* just dreams
18:27 < Qcoder02> Soap: I say it was a dream, but it was closer to peoples accounts of UFO OBE's
18:27 < eggcentric> well they're not JUST dreams
18:27 < eggcentric> they work on slightly different mechanisms
18:27 < eggcentric> but it is rather unlikely there's a paranomal aspect
18:28 < Qcoder02> At one time I was convinced I had relaity slipped in a dream...
18:28 < eggcentric> then again, no one has ever to my mind satisfactoraly explained consciousneess properly
18:28 < eggcentric> I am fairly sure there's no such thing as free will
18:28 < lucasoutloud> My dreams are often about cooking in an incorrect fashion.
18:28 < Qcoder02> And I still can't understand how I dreamt about at least 3 specfic Dr Who sequences (aired in 2005)  over a year before ...
18:28 < eggcentric> but I'm equally pretty sure that I'm experiencing something somehow, and I can't come close to explaining that
18:29 < eggcentric> Qc did you write down the sequences beforehand?
18:29 < Qcoder02> eggcentric:  No
18:29 < eggcentric> aye that's the problem
18:29 < eggcentric> from now on, start writing all this stuff down, and then have it actualy happen
18:29 < eggcentric> then if it does it will be a meaningful thing
18:30 < eggcentric> human memory is not read only
18:30 < Qcoder02> Another oddity that occured to me was that a few days before 9/11 I got a feeling something big was about to happen...
18:31 < lucasoutloud> did you get a feeling about wether it was a conspiracy or not?
18:31 < Qcoder02> And I thought at the time it was just a moral crisis, At the time of the 9/11 story breaking in the UK , I was in the middle of trying to write a letter to Gideons International concerning the return of a Bible they had given me at School...
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18:32 < eggcentric> Qcoder, at the time if you were at UK school
18:32 < eggcentric> you would just have started a new term
18:32 < eggcentric> could that not have explained your feeling "something big was about to happen"?
18:32 < Qcoder02> The Bible had been given to me at School had been many years previously...
18:32 < eggcentric> my point is, you really need to write this shit down all the time otherwise you'll never come close to working out if it's meaningful or not
18:33 < Qcoder02> Yeah
18:33 < eggcentric> it's very unlikely to be
18:33 < Qcoder02> Anyhow post 9/11 it took me about 7-8 months to be able to travel into London again...
18:34 < suicidalzerg> https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/8/15/Z_TEkFaufkuMAuwK3LMnoA2.jpg
18:34 < Qcoder02> and then in Sept 2002 , I found myself thinking that it would be a shame if another attack took place...
18:34 < eggcentric> (also lol at letter: Dear bitches, I don't want this bollocks cause it's not true, even though you gave it to me for free. Please take it back to give to someone else, even though that would cost you more than just printing another. Lots of love, Q to the C to the zero-two)
18:34 < Qcoder02> Lo and behold  Bali occured right about the time I was expecting it... (but this is a confrimation bias)
18:35 < Qcoder02> That incident gave me a flu like illness from panic
18:35 < eggcentric> s/z wtf is that?
18:35 < mareklug> Qcoder02:  predict the next Russian plane crash, then we'll talk
18:36 < Qcoder02> In addition to this , I've had at least 2 dreams where I was  quite obviously seeing 'flying saucers'
18:36 < Qcoder02> BUt then I've watched a LOT of sci-fi / X-Files type shows
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18:37 < Qcoder02> The weirdest dream I have had is one in which I was being held down whilst someone was injectiing my arm with something...
18:37 < eggcentric> oooh oooh can I do it... I predict the next russian aircraft crash will involve an error by a russian aviation professional, who I forsee to have many qualifications and a blazee attidue to work. I see precipitation and a loud engine along with fire and a silence. A letter from the cryllic alphabet is important.
18:38 < {Soap}> lol
18:38 < mareklug> eggcentric:  date or no cigar
18:38 < Qcoder02> eggcentric:  The next major terror incident will not be in London
18:39 < eggcentric> the date will be quite simple to predict. I will show you at the time how to make the number, but it will be 23
18:39 < eggcentric> and it will be the birthday of someone involved
18:39 < Qcoder02> eggcentric:  If you want to look for predictions in obscure things, try and come up with why 714 is importnant
18:39 < lucasoutloud> what makes a terror incident "major" as compared to other ones?
18:40 < Qcoder02> lucasoutloud:  I mean major in terms of shutting down an entire City
18:40 < Qcoder02> for an extended period
18:40 < Qcoder02> Like 9/11 did in NYC, like 7/7 did in London
18:40 < eggcentric> lol you could make basically anything out of 714
18:40 < lucasoutloud> oh. I see.
18:41 < Qcoder02> eggcentric: Like a major crisis in LA in August 2014?
18:41 < eggcentric> yup, not hard at all
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18:42 < eggcentric> I really wish something paranormal would actualy happen some time
18:42 < eggcentric> anyway I'm about to bugger off but this stuff made me remember
18:42 < eggcentric> for an excellent book
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18:43 < eggcentric> look at www.ianrowland.com
18:43 < eggcentric> and buy his book on how to cold read
18:43 < Qcoder02> I need some sleep as well
18:43 < eggcentric> it's one fo the best books I've ever read, it's that good
18:43 < Qcoder02> I find myself doing a form of IRC reading on ##politics ;)
18:43 < Qcoder02> IRC cold reading
18:43 < Qcoder02> Anyway
18:43  * Qcoder02 ouy
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18:44 < eggcentric> that goes for you lot too
18:44 < eggcentric> buy the frigging book
18:44 < eggcentric> or else!
18:44 < har> yoyo
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18:45 < lucasoutloud> But I like pirating books.
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18:48 < har> yoyo
18:48 < harej> Hi har
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18:54 < Bsadowski1> http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2012/08/18/news/doc50303ab7ac066926366673.txt
18:54 < Bsadowski1> :<
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18:55 < suicidalzerg> https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/8/15/Z_TEkFaufkuMAuwK3LMnoA2.jpg
18:57 < harej> Don't even know what that is!
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19:01 < harej> Aww! Little keyboard!
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19:07 < Athyria> Anyone know how to uninstall things from linux when they weren't installed with the local package manager?
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19:09 < {Soap}> hi Nuke
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19:09 < NuclearWarfare> hey
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19:09 < Athyria> Do you nuke things?
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19:12 < mareklug> Athyria:  it helps to know what speciffically
19:13 < NuclearWarfare> well I blocked someone today
19:13 < NuclearWarfare> they were upset
19:13 < NuclearWarfare> That's about as intense as I get
19:14 < Athyria> Were they upset before or after?
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19:14 < {Soap}> whoa
19:14 < {Soap}> it was quite an unusual block
19:15 < Athyria> mareklug: I installed an odd version of imagemagick on gentoo but now the one in the repository caught up versions and should probably remove the manual one, no?
19:15 < CoalBalls> Getting gentoo = spend your life compiling
19:15 < {Soap}> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DePiep#Floq.27s_talk
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19:16 < mareklug> Athyria:  do you have to?  imagemagick does not  change hugely.  if the version you have does what you need, don't mess with it
19:16 < Athyria> mareklug: And same thing on arch with opera, now that I think about it.
19:16 < mareklug> Opera you can afaik update from within Opera
19:17 < Athyria> Well, emerge keeps trying to put the managed one back on and bad things have been happening with both there.
19:17 < Athyria> And now that they're both the same version, the managed one should work, right?
19:17 < Athyria> And this is linux, not windows.
19:17 < mareklug> you can have two versions under two paths
19:18 < Athyria> It's the same version, though, and for some reason when the managed one is installed neither work.
19:18 < Athyria> I have no idea what's going on with this. >.>
19:18 < mareklug> just order your PATH/path variables so you get the one you want
19:18 < Athyria> I specified the path! It didn't help.
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19:19 < NuclearWarfare> {Soap}: I'm still not fully sure what he is so upset about
19:19 < Athyria> MediaWiki was all like NOOOES CAN'T USE THIS.
19:19  * Athyria kicks it.
19:19 < NuclearWarfare> Despite these obstacles, readers and commentators have reached a broad consensus about the book's central cast of characters and, to a lesser degree, its plot. However, a number of key details remain elusive.
19:19 < NuclearWarfare> (Written in 1939 by one of the most well known authors of the 20th century)
19:20 < mareklug> Athyria:  worst case scenario: uninstall both imagemagick, one with the package installer the other by judicious use of rm -r    …then get the managed one again
19:20 < Athyria> rm -r? That's how you get rid of the things?
19:20 < Athyria> Is that how I should get rid of the opera on arch, too?
19:20 < mareklug> man rm
19:21 < TeeTylerToe> what book?
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19:21 < Athyria> I know what rm does.
19:21 < Steven_Zhang> I was pinged?
19:21 < mareklug> oera ight actually have its own uninstaller.   do you want to just upgrade Opera?
19:22 < Steven_Zhang> oh it was hours ago
19:22 < Athyria> I don't see an uninstaller, but yes. It's in the repository now.
19:23 < mareklug> well, you don't want to lose your profile.  or do you care?
19:23 < Athyria> My what?
19:23 < mareklug> browser user state
19:23 < Athyria> That's in the user home directory.
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19:24 < mareklug> then rm -r it if you installed it w/o a packager
19:24 < Athyria> Okay. How do I find it?
19:24 < Elduen> That's what I said.
19:24 < mareklug> find command?
19:24 < mareklug> whereas command
19:25 < mareklug> whereis
19:25 < Elduen> whereis is nice.
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19:27 < Athyria> Thank you for your assistance.
19:27 -!- matt_buck is now known as mattbuck
19:27 < mareklug> you're always welcome
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19:28 < TeeTylerToe> what's a term for someone that's snobby about their hobby?
19:28 < CoalBalls> (sn|h)obby
19:30 < harej> A snob?
19:30 < mareklug> an Englishman?
19:30  * mareklug runs
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19:31 < Athyria> Okay, so I'm supposed to rm -r /usr, right? Because most of the files are in there.
19:31 < mareklug> um, not all of /usr  heavens
19:32 < mareklug> um, take a look at this, just cuz.  http://my.opera.com/ruario/blog/2010/01/17/completely-uninstalling-opera-when-installed-via-one-of-our-official-tar-package
19:32 < Athyria> I should probably get rid of /bin, too, since the rest of it's in there.
19:32 < {Soap}> lol
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19:33 < {Soap}> youre not serious, right?
19:33 < {Soap}> I mean that's like deleting the whole system
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19:34 < Athyria> But then how can I possibly get rid of all of it?
19:35 < mareklug> take a look at the link.  you remove subdirectories like /usr/bin/opera
19:35 < Athyria> Should probably nuke /etc and /sbin too.
19:35 < mareklug> you make me nervous when you write that.
19:36 < mareklug> subdirectories ending in opera
19:37 < Athyria> Is /lib important?
19:37 < mareklug> yes.
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19:38 < Athyria> Huh.
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19:43 < Betacommand> anyone in #wikipedia-en-spi ?
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19:49 < Frood> Betacommand: yes?
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20:00 < Apheori> What do people do around here for fun?
20:00 < Apheori> Besides yell at each other.
20:01 < Frood> ...lol
20:01 < Frood> Netflix recommends I watch "Being Elmo"
20:01 < Frood> Presumably because I watch documentaries
20:02 < Frood> and my niece watches Sesame Street.
20:02 < Elduen> Apheori: There's always this. http://koalastothemax.com/?aHR0cDovL3d3dy5mb29kc3Vicy5jb20vUGhvdG9zL2VnZ3BsYW50LUFtZXJpY2FuLmpwZw==
20:02 < mareklug> Frood:  have you seen The Thin Blue Line?
20:04 < Frood> mareklug: I haven't
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20:05 < mareklug> worth it.  esp. if you like Philip Glass music and social issues
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20:10 < Apheori> O_o
20:10 < Frood> meh, I'm gonna watch some Futurama
20:10 < Frood> then go to bed probably.
20:11 < Apheori> Is bed fun?
20:11 < Frood> my bed isn't fun
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20:12 < Frood> if there was more than one person in it, maybe
20:12 < Frood> but no, it's not fun when there's only one person.
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20:18 < honomo> !admin
20:18 < Betacommand> honomo: what do you need?
20:19 < honomo> Go away, you're not a real admin, you're just banned.
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20:20 < DeltaQuad> honomo: what's the problem?
20:20 < honomo> How can i request a unprotection of a page fast for a quick edit?
20:20 < honomo> H̗͓̯̼̳̜̮͕͙͕̱̺͍̾̑ͤ̓́͋̾̃ͫ̎̈́̂̀ͅe̷͖̱̥̠̬͊͛ͫ̇̓͌̓͆̀̃ͯ̈ͬ̈́͒͌͝͝͡ļ̴̵̖̭̜͉ͩ̽̋̌ͨ̓̏͊͑̈́̒̇̌͗ͣ̔̓̔́l̨͖͖͕͎̟͇̲̘̮̖̪̻̳̮̩̞̞̹ͫ̏͗̆́̉͊́̆̆͝o͂̄͊ͭ͊̈́̾ͨ̈́͌҉̴̮̱̦̳͕̳̭̥͈͝
20:21 < DeltaQuad> don't do that please, and it's unlikely that will happen
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20:21 < DeltaQuad> link to the article?
20:22 < honomo> [[Canada]]
20:22 < Betacommand> honomo: I may be banned but I still have more access than the average user
20:22 < honomo> Betacommand, per arbcom, i won't trust you at all.
20:23 < honomo> ie sockpuppeteering.
20:24 < Betacommand> honomo: that is your prerogative,  but that does not lessen what I know, and the access that I have
20:24 < zscout370> and what is the change you are looking to make?
20:24 < DeltaQuad> ^^
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20:25 < DeltaQuad> honomo:
20:25 < honomo> Ahhh nevermind then!
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20:26 < DeltaQuad> ya...that was derp
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20:26 <@DeltaQuad> I knew it
20:26 < mareklug> who is this deep you ppl speak of?
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20:26 < mareklug> derp
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20:27 < Jasper_Deng> a known long-term channel troll who's formally permabanned from Wikimedia channels
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20:28 < mareklug> is his wiki username derp as well?
20:28 < Jasper_Deng> I think it's Zalgo or something
20:29  * Athyria hugs Betacommand.
20:29 < DeltaQuad> crossbanned the IP in 4 channels
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20:29 < Athyria> Ghack, buckets, I have no apostrophes.
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20:32 < GrenBaykre> "An upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard frees up about 7GB of hard disk space. This has more to do with removing redundant components like printer drivers (which are downloaded on demand in Snow Leopard) than removing code specific to PowerPC." <-- There must be some serious downside to this since Windows has been keeping it local for all this time, even in spite of the massive size.
20:32 < mareklug> can't think of a downside, other than assumeing no net to make downloads
20:33 < GrenBaykre> You don't put 7 GB of compressed drivers on each user's computer unless there is a major reason to.
20:33 < GrenBaykre> If so, why didn't they remove this years ago?
20:33 < GrenBaykre> Like 10 years ago.
20:34 < mareklug> maybe MS does not choose to make that net assumption.  Apple has been pretty aggressive about schlepping whole OSes only via net upgrade
20:34 < mareklug> you have to have servers commensurate to install base
20:35 < Athyria> Ow.
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20:36 < ow> ?
20:36 < ow> Athyria.
20:37 < Athyria> o_O
20:37 < ow> you called?
20:37 < Athyria> Sorry, I... what is with the name?
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20:37 < ow> :D
20:38 < TeeTylerToe> have you seen all the cruft in vista and win 7?
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20:40 < GrenBaykre> :|
20:40 < {Soap}> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cruft
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20:41 < GrenBaykre> Life's a piece of shit.
20:42 < Athyria> I am better than fish.
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20:43 < mareklug> Athyria:  "Oh mother of Pearl, I wouldn't trade you for another girl"   -- [[Roxy Music]]
20:44 < Athyria> But is it a fish?
20:45 -!- Fluff|away is now known as Fluffernutter
20:46 < Athyria> I know Fluffernutter is not a fish.
20:46 < Fluffernutter> maybe I am! And I'm a really good actor!
20:46 < Athyria> You walk too well! Fish don t hav the skeletal structure for that!
20:48 < ow> Athyria: It's a cool nick, that's what, fyi
20:49 < Athyria> It makes you look like a truncated owl.
20:49 < Athyria> Then again, there are a lot worse things to look like...
20:49 < Athyria> And this one does prevent you from being accidentally pinged when people are trying to ping me, at least.
20:50  * Athyria cuddles ow and refuses to let go.
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20:53 < ow> alas, the nick 'owl' is taken
20:53 < Athyria> You d make a nice owl.
20:53  * Athyria hugs Ironholds.
20:54 < Gfoley4> owl_?
20:54 < Athyria> It s just not the same.
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20:55 < Ironholds> hey, Athyria
20:55 < Ironholds> I shall be replying to yer email in due course
20:55  * Athyria grins.
20:55 < Ironholds> by which I mean "as soon as I've got adjusted to having a bajillion inch monitor again"
20:55 < Ironholds> transitioning from complete laptop use to my gaming machine is...interesting.
20:55 < Athyria> You have a gaming machine?
20:55 < Ironholds> I'm like "I can't see both sides of the screen at once. What wretched shitting hell is this"
20:56 < Athyria> Damn... that s fancy.
20:56 < Ironholds> well, it's just my desktop, but it was built with the idea that I should be able to play pretty much anything on it
20:56 < Ironholds> except, like. charades. or strip poker.
20:56 < Athyria> Oh.
20:56 < Athyria> How many monitors?
20:56 < Ironholds> just the one. More would knock my speakers off the desk.
20:56 < Athyria> You need a bigger desk.
20:56 < Ironholds> I agree
20:57 < Ironholds> build one for me, you didn't get me a birthday present
20:57 < Athyria> Also, we made a page on mww for this... thing.
20:57 < Athyria> I kind of ran out of money, remember?
20:57 < Ironholds> details, details
20:58 < Ironholds> mww?
20:58 < Athyria> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Grand_plot_to_overthrow_Bugzilla
20:58 < Athyria> At very least you can provide the cake.
20:58 < Ironholds> transparent
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20:59 < Ironholds> there are bigger issues with why bugzilla sucks
20:59 < Ironholds> but I agree totally that it has to be an inhouse tracker
20:59 < Athyria> Can you add them?
20:59 < Ironholds> quite frankly modifying bugzilla to NOT suck would take *more time than building a replacement* at this stage
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20:59 < Ironholds> (it might not. I'm just saying. Bugzilla sucks quite a lot.)
20:59 < Athyria> That s the idea.
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21:00 < Athyria> Make a new one, I mean.
21:00 < Ironholds> indeed
21:00 < Ironholds> I've been working on my plan for this since...lemme see.
21:00 < Ironholds> april. Product Retreat.
21:00 < Athyria> >.<
21:00 < Ironholds> I got drunk and a laptop and was all "right. HERE IS WHAT I AM DOING."
21:01 < Ironholds> unfortunately my plan is all on my head or in a mediawiki install I have put together
21:01 < Ironholds> I should probably stick it all in one place and come out with it at some point
21:01 < Athyria> So put it on-wiki!
21:02 < Ironholds> I'll stick it on *a* wiki
21:02 < Athyria> >.>
21:02 < Athyria> You re sober, aren t you?
21:02 < Ironholds> I figure using MW to list "this is why the software someone probably still at the WMF sucks balls" is probably not politik
21:02 < Ironholds> *picked by someone
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21:03 < ChrisGualtieri> I'm blasting away more unsourced articles again >.>
21:03 < Athyria> Just because it s horrific doesn t mean there s currently anything better.
21:03 < Ironholds> agreed!
21:03 < Ironholds> there is nothing better
21:03 < Athyria> So this is why we get this other guy really, really drunk, and see what happens when he tries to write a new one!
21:04 < Ironholds> but the second step in any plan to build something new is to identify competitors and why your work > their work
21:04 < Athyria> Ours is better because it involves drunk people who hate perl.
21:04 < Ironholds> (the first step, obviously, is to say "this is a gap in the market/a problem/something we can do better/something people want that is not happening")
21:04 < Athyria> We need more booze.
21:05 < Ironholds> to be fair: my problem is not with bugzilla
21:05 < Ironholds> it is with the nature of bug-trackers
21:05 < Ironholds> I just think bugzilla is a particularly egregious example of why bug-trackers have a very narrow purpose.
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21:06 < Athyria> I plead cluelessness.
21:09 < Athyria> But craziness, man. You can t say no to craziness.
21:09 < Athyria> And I need to fix my keyboard.
21:09 < ChrisGualtieri> I actually found a source for co.ck >.>
21:10 < Athyria> Snrk.
21:10 < ChrisGualtieri> Its not a great source, but seriously the Cook Islands require BUSINESSES to register to that
21:10 < Athyria> Oh deary.
21:10 < ChrisGualtieri>    	".co.ck": is used for business organisations. Companies must register their corporate name or trading name, or some form of abbreviation. For example, Telecom Cook Islands Ltd. has registered "telecom.co.ck" as their domain name.
21:11 < ChrisGualtieri> And they speak english
21:11 < Athyria> Roosters.
21:11 < ChrisGualtieri> Yeah, sure that's what we all think
21:12 < Ironholds> I need to amazonify some stuff, I think
21:12 < Ironholds> It turns out that sleepily overfilling your zippo will lead to you setting fire to your zippo, which sets fire to your hands, which makes you fling the ball-of-blue-flame that is your lighter over the balcony, hitting the top of a truck from 6 storeys up.
21:12 < Ironholds> today is not my day.
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21:15 < Ironholds> anyway. Athyria. When I get today's to-do list done I will post my big bugzilla thing and you guys can look at it.
21:16 < Athyria> Cool.
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21:20 < Ironholds> also, best thing ever
21:20 < Ironholds> one of my coworkers is writing a glossary for new staff
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21:20 < Ironholds> and I had to explain "clue bat" and "trouting" to her
21:20 < Ironholds> and she then goes "oh. And, what's a coal ball?"
21:20 < Athyria> >__<
21:20  * Ironholds giggles
21:21  * jorm raises his eyebrow.
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21:24 -!- Athyria is now known as Isarra
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21:27 < Isarra> Should I use shekels or euros?
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21:27 < Ironholds> Isarra: for?
21:27 < Ironholds> jorm: what? It was kinda amusing
21:28 < Isarra> For randomness.
21:28 < Ironholds> Isarra: shekels
21:28 < Isarra> Okay.
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21:29 < Ironholds> ooh, birthday cards!
21:29 < Ironholds> thank you for the money, miscellaneous relatives
21:29 < Ironholds> except you, Uncle Timothy, who just sent a card. You'll get a thank-you note, but we both know how it stands now.
21:29 < Isarra> What s it like having so few relatives they can actually afford to send individuals money?
21:30 -!- ceradon [~ceradon@wikimedia/Ceradon] has quit [Quit: *poof*]
21:30 < Ironholds> kinda sucky, because it means that I have to write off pretty much my entire family as assholes
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21:30 < Bradford> Isarra: Hi :)
21:30 < Ironholds> (because there are, like, 7 assholes. And 8 relatives.)
21:31 < Isarra> Bradford: Who are you? o_O
21:31 < Isarra> Also, oh.
21:32 < Bradford> Isarra: I'm just a person, I like you
21:34 < Isarra> You must be delusional.
21:34 < Ironholds> oh, tasmin little
21:34 < Isarra> Real people don t like me.
21:34 < Ironholds> I would marry you if you weren't, like, ancient.
21:35 < Bradford> Isarra:  and do not you glad someone likes you
21:35 < Ironholds> Isarra: so I'm a fake person? ;p
21:35 < Isarra> ...no, you re just delusional.
21:35 < Isarra> Or something.
21:35 < Isarra> I don t know.
21:36 < Ironholds> this is your standard answer to everything
21:36 < Ironholds> accept that people like you, dammit!
21:36  * Ironholds beats Isarra with an acceptance-cluebat
21:38  * Isarra hits Ironholds with a book on... wheelchairs or some such.
21:38  * Bradford He falls not speak English poorly
21:38 < Ironholds> Isarra: delicious
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21:39  * Isarra hits Bradford, too, just for good measure.
21:39 < ChrisGualtieri> Quick question. Are minor planets and such notable for Wikipedia?
21:39  * Elduen soundly strikes Isarra atop the crown with ye olde tome of HTBFANJS.
21:39 < Bradford> Isarra: I do not speak very good English
21:40 < Isarra> Bradford: Yeah, no worries.
21:40 < Isarra> By which I mean it s fine. Don t worry about it. That kind of thing.
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21:41 < Bradford> Isarra: ok, I translate with google translator :)
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21:41 < Isarra> Why are you here?
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21:42 < Ironholds> why are any of us here?
21:42 < Ironholds> I'm here for the free food and soda
21:42 < Bradford> Isarra: Because I kicked off channel # wikipedia-es and the Spanish Wikipedia
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21:43 < Isarra> Uh.
21:43 < Isarra> Why was this, exactly?
21:44 < jorm> no one else here speaks good english, either.
21:44 < Bradford> Isarra: Something you do not want to talk, give me much sadness
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21:48 < Ironholds> Isarra: you're giving him sadness! you monster!
21:48 < Isarra> Less... abusing multiple accounts, revert warring, block evasion, harassment...
21:48 < Isarra> Impressive.
21:49 < Isarra> Possible COI, too...
21:49 < Gfoley4> Mitt_Romney: -_-
21:49 < Mitt_Romney> What Gfoley4? D:
21:50 < Gfoley4> Sir Mitt
21:50 < Mitt_Romney> My tax records, you can't have them
21:50 < Gfoley4> :(
21:51 < Gfoley4> Mitt_Romney: What is your budget plan?
21:51 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away
21:51 < Mitt_Romney> Something something evil
21:51 < Isarra> Why are you pretending to be an actual person whom you ain t? That s not nice.
21:52 < Mitt_Romney> Well, I /nick'd to this to pester a friend of mine, then Gfoley4 started asking questions D:
21:52 < Isarra> How improper.
21:52 < Gfoley4> you should register it
21:52 -!- NoCode [~NoCode@dsl-207-112-89-88.tor.primus.ca] has quit [Quit: FUCK OFF]
21:52 < Gfoley4> group it, I mean
21:52 < Mitt_Romney> I did 18 weeks ag
21:52 < Mitt_Romney> o
21:52 < Gfoley4> oh hah
21:52 -!- Gfoley4 is now known as Barack_Obama
21:53 < Isarra> I like enwp s signature policy better than eswp s.
21:53 < Barack_Obama> oops, meant to /ns info lol
21:53 < Mitt_Romney> lol
21:53 < Isarra> Guys, enough, please.
21:53 -!- Barack_Obama is now known as Gfoley4
21:53 < Gfoley4> Call the copzz
21:54 < Ironholds> shit like this is why I can wander away to alphabetise my books while going "I will miss nothing of value"
21:54 < Elduen> Where's EugeneKay when you need him? "Ban all users" would work.
21:54 -!- Mitt_Romney is now known as Rick_Santorum
21:54 < Elduen> /mode #wikipedia-en +b everyone!~everyone@everywhere
21:55 < Isarra> This sort of thing reminds me why there are username policies on-wiki. Pity they don t apply here.
21:55 < Gfoley4> I don't think chaining your name to a famous person's is that bad?
21:55 < Gfoley4> *changing
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21:57 < Isarra> At very least it does not make a good impression.
21:57 < Ironholds> Gfoley4: it's disruptive and dickish
21:58 < Ironholds> it confuses anyone trying to find you
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21:58 < Ironholds> oh! and the only reason anyone does it is to twat around
21:58 < Ironholds> :)
21:58 < Gfoley4> yes, good point
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22:00 < Isarra> Since these are real people, it can be argued as harassment, too...
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22:01 < Isarra> Being harassed by cows is painful.
22:01 < mareklug> ChrisGualtieri:   there are articles on hundreds on planetoids
22:02 < mareklug> bot made
22:02 < ChrisGualtieri> Yeah I'm replying to someone who posted on my talk
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22:03 < ChrisGualtieri> Should I change them all to redirects or what. I'm trying to discuss the matter now
22:03 < mareklug> why?
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22:04 < ChrisGualtieri> Because they are all not notable according to our astro note >.>
22:04 < mareklug> pls link me to this note.  is that recent?
22:05 < ChrisGualtieri> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NASTRO
22:08 < mareklug> "Unless the object has been the subject of significant study beyond discovery and initial parameter constraints, it probably does not warrant an article."  <-- you're gonna have to apply this test to each one, I am afraid.
22:08 < ChrisGualtieri> The ones I took off note had things like 'Potential Hazard' in them >.>
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22:09 < ChrisGualtieri> Then again the articles are a mess
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22:11  * Isarra bites a random passerby.
22:12 < mareklug> I thing this topic eludes simple wholesale fixes.  the NASTRO clearly allows for things like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/532_Herculina
22:12 -!- DeltaQuad [~quassel@wikipedia/DeltaQuad] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:13 < ChrisGualtieri> Anything which is on the Sentry system is being of interest, but then again its not common knowledge
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22:13 < ChrisGualtieri> I'd like to see full data even on minor asteroids simply because anyone LOOKING for said data could find it and they would be hard pressed to run into other articles
22:14 < ChrisGualtieri> Then again we get ones like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_AG5
22:14 < mareklug> well, uncommon knowledge is cool for Wiki.  that's why we have album articles :)
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22:14 < ChrisGualtieri> Where the stub is made before the media jumped on it
22:14 < ChrisGualtieri> Which is pretty cool I think
22:15 < mareklug> i would err on the inclusionist side here, provided the sourcing is decent
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22:16 < ChrisGualtieri> That's the thing, four/five sources and full data is not on the articles and Rich's astrobot thing is shut down
22:16 < ChrisGualtieri> Not even the databases themselves have the information so neatly assembled.
22:17 < mareklug> it would be pity to chuck it then, no?
22:18 -!- Inous [~al_killa@pool-173-58-11-57.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en
22:18 < ChrisGualtieri> That's what I am thinking
22:19 -!- Frostee [~frostyisa@115-64-72-36.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wikipedia-en
22:19 < ChrisGualtieri> We've had several cases where the stubs predate the 'interest' in the subject and thus we are ahead of the curbe
22:19 < ChrisGualtieri> curve*
22:19  * Isarra pets Frostee.
22:20 < ChrisGualtieri> Here's an example
22:20 < ChrisGualtieri> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/90376_Kossuth
22:21 < Frostee> Isarra should do my astronomy assignment
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22:22 < Isarra> Frostee should draw someone in a wheelchair for me.
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22:23 < uschwusch_2860> !ops
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22:23 < jeremyb> yes?
22:23 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+o jeremyb] by ChanServ
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22:24 < ChrisGualtieri> Even worse... the actual creation of a lot of these stubs came from approved bots
22:24 < Frostee> Isarra please...
22:24 <@jeremyb> uschwusch_2860: ?
22:24 < Frostee> I would, but I've been listening to the "element song" in an endless loops for the last 2 hours
22:24 < Mdann52> uschwusch_2860, what?
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22:24  * suicidalzerg fires a Bakuriki Maha at a random person.
22:25 <@jeremyb> ...
22:25 < Mdann52> :)
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22:25 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+b *!*@cpe-76-93-111-118.socal.res.rr.com] by jeremyb
22:25 < Isarra> Sexy.
22:27 < Ironholds> so...much...paperwork
22:27  * suicidalzerg wants paperwork! :p
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22:28 < Mdann52> Ironholds, sounds like your enjoying yourself :)
22:28 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@cpe-74-71-143-18.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: tonynoname]
22:28 < Ironholds> Mdann52: I just got home from 2 weeks in SF, over my birthday
22:28 < Isarra> I wish I had paperwork. It d imply I d had some success at some point.
22:29 < Ironholds> so I have a bazillion letters and packages ON TOP OF all the bills and tax records I was halfway through categorising when I left
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22:30 < funnyfarm299> HEY EVERYONE
22:31 < Mdann52> Hi
22:31 < suicidalzerg> Hi...
22:31 < funnyfarm299> Hmm, don't recognize you guys.
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22:31 < jeremyb> brochon!
22:31 < Mdann52> ?
22:31 < funnyfarm299> Then again, I haven't been here for months.
22:31 < Benoit-Rochon> Bonsoir
22:32 < Isarra> So how does one go about, when applying for a job, making oneself seem qualified when that one really isn t?
22:32 < Guest3501> Bonsoir!
22:32 -!- ChrisGualtieri [47eae49b@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
22:32 < Frostee> Isarra: Fake ur resume
22:33 < suicidalzerg> Frostee: LOL
22:33 < Isarra> That would assume I d know what to fake.
22:33 < Frostee> Put down that you have a 180 IQ and that you've worked for NASA, works everytime
22:33 -!- Guest3501 [~wat@2001:0:4137:9e76:72:2d4a:51a3:24b1] has quit []
22:33 < Isarra> Also, wouldn t they notice?
22:34 < Frostee> Implying they check these things
22:34 < closedmouth> Frostee: not if you're applying for a job at NASA
22:34 < Benoit-Rochon> Today is the official media launch for WLM : http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Timeline
22:34 < Isarra> What wiki does that apply to, anyway?
22:34 < Benoit-Rochon> Anyone to help me with it's Englsh skills ?
22:34 < Benoit-Rochon> I have prepared a press release for canadian medias, but my English is soooo bad and this document is very important! So if you have a minute, can you please double check and correct it, if needed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Benoit_Rochon/Press_release_WLM_Canada
22:34 < closedmouth> *its
22:35 < Isarra> You may want to consider specifying which wiki this is.
22:35 < Isarra> And how it is that some nebulous wiki is going about this loving.
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22:36 < suicidalzerg> The english isn't all that bad, just needs a couple extra comma's here and there, looks like
22:36 < Frostee> Wiki's suck
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22:36 < Isarra> How dare you pluralise with an apostrophe.
22:36 < closedmouth> commas
22:36 < closedmouth> wikis
22:37 < Tony_Sidaway> Dutch people do it all the time, I understand.
22:37 < Frostee> fine then
22:37 < Frostee> Wikis suck
22:37 < Frostee> Badly
22:38 < Tony_Sidaway> I like to think of wikis as a simple and fuss-free attempt to make up for the lack of widespread "put" support in http.
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22:39 < funnyfarm299> I'm a bit rusty, isn't there a restriction on using company logos?
22:39 < funnyfarm299> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Three_Doors_Cafe.jpg
22:39 < funnyfarm299> used in 1 article, itself a CSD
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22:39 < jeremyb> Benoit-Rochon: do you have your own website? who's running it?
22:39 < jorm> we are watching "The Hunger Games" and it is excellent.
22:39 < Mdann52> Yes.... They are generally copyrighted
22:40 < funnyfarm299> jorm, I just watched that earlier tonight :)
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22:40 < jorm> hooray for xbox zune.
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22:40 < Benoit-Rochon> jeremyb: http://wikilovesmonuments.ca and I kinda running it....
22:41 < Tony_Sidaway> jorm: you're using a Microsoft streaming system of some kind to watch the film?
22:41 < jorm> i am.
22:41 < jorm> that would be "xbox live"
22:43 < Tony_Sidaway> I don't know whether that kind of thing has caught on here. My daughter's US boyfriend sent her a membership of some kind of movie system but they said it hadn't launched in Europe yet. More recently I heard they had launched. I forget the name. The famous one.
22:43 < Benoit-Rochon> I have to admit that I have used an automatic translator, but the English level is horrible! Can you take a look please : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Benoit_Rochon/Press_release_WLM_Canada
22:43 < closedmouth> netflix?
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22:44 < jeremyb> Benoit-Rochon: how will you deal with the traffic come september? i'm working on preparing for the US
22:44 < closedmouth> there should be a regional equivalent
22:44 < jeremyb> Benoit-Rochon: when does the release have to go out?
22:44 < closedmouth> there's one in australia
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22:44 < Tony_Sidaway> I'm Benoit-Rochon you want help fixing the translation to more idiomatic English?
22:44 < Benoit-Rochon> jeremyb: The intl madia lauch is today
22:45 < jeremyb> orly
22:45  * jeremyb didn't know that
22:45 < Tony_Sidaway> (Ignore "I'm". Dunnot where that came from!)
22:45 < jeremyb> Benoit-Rochon: also did you try #wikilovesmonuments ?
22:45 < Tony_Sidaway> closedmouth: yes, netflix
22:45 < Benoit-Rochon> Tony_Sidaway: thx for giving me a hand with my bad English skills!!!!
22:45 < jeremyb> i see you did
22:45 < Tony_Sidaway> Benoit-Rochon: okay I'll hack away at it.
22:46 < jeremyb> and you got no response
22:46 < Benoit-Rochon> jeremyb: Yes, but it's less active than here...
22:46 < jeremyb> sure
22:46 < jeremyb> it's also euro heavy and it's late there
22:47 < Benoit-Rochon> jeremyb: And madia launch is for today (well tomorrow for us!)
22:47 < Benoit-Rochon> jeremyb: 19th of August
22:47 < funnyfarm299> External links in disambigs are bad, right?
22:47 < Mdann52> Yes
22:49 < Benoit-Rochon> Tony_Sidaway: Thanks for your help. Visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Benoit_Rochon/Press_release_WLM_Canada and correct it if needed (and I know it's in need!!!!)
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22:50 < Mdann52> Someone just got banned
22:50 < jeremyb> Benoit-Rochon: i think he got the link ;)
22:50 < jsharpminor> hi all
22:50 < jeremyb> Mdann52: orly?
22:50 < Benoit-Rochon> jeremyb: Just double check... it's important for I
22:51  * jeremyb puts Benoit-Rochon on the phone with an english customer ;)
22:51 < Mdann52> ?
22:51 < Benoit-Rochon> ?
22:52 < jeremyb> Benoit-Rochon: how did you first learn english?
22:52 < jeremyb> on the phone i thought
22:52 < ow> jeremyb: err wtf
22:52 < ow> that is a massive ipv6 ban
22:52 < jsharpminor> Can someone help me with !link Talk:Jazzy_Jordan
22:53 < jeremyb> ow: it's all teredo. it's a /8 in v4
22:53 < ow> :/
22:53 < jeremyb> we'll see if anyone complains. i think teredo use is pretty rare for legit users still
22:53 < funnyfarm299> here is evidence why some people should NOT write for WP https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ernie_Calvert&redirect=no&rcid=523341943
22:54 < Benoit-Rochon> jeremyb: by watching "Sesame Street" on TV Ontario. My first word was "butterfly".. funny for a child "butter that can fly"....
22:54 < Mdann52> http://www.enwp.org/talk:Jazzy Jordan
22:54 < jeremyb> huh
22:54 < jeremyb> Benoit-Rochon: i'll explain in person sometime ;-)
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22:54 < Benoit-Rochon> jeremyb: I was 8 y.o. forgive me
22:55 < jeremyb> hah
22:55 < Mdann52> [06:55] (Mdann52) http://www.enwp.org/talk:Jazzy_Jordan - jsharpminor, bots don't run in here
22:55 < jsharpminor> ah, okay thanks... i thought they did?
22:55 < jsharpminor> It's been a while since I hung out in wikipedia-en
22:55 < Benoit-Rochon> jeremyb: 1982... a long time ago
22:55 < Mdann52> That's the help channel your thinking of....
22:56 < jsharpminor> lol
22:56 < jsharpminor> apparently
22:56 < jsharpminor> so this isn't a help channel, it's just a general hangout, chit-chat channel?
22:56 < jeremyb> it's a hybrid
22:56 < Mdann52> Basically
22:56 < Tony_Sidaway> Benoit-Rochon: I hacked it about a bit. The original was quite good but it didn't really use English idioms. I've concentrated on rendering the information in a way that reads more naturally to a native English speaker.
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22:57 < Tony_Sidaway> Please check that I've retained your intended meaning.
22:58 < Tony_Sidaway> If you have the original in French, it may help. I can read and speak French reasonably well.
22:59 < jeremyb> he surely does
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23:00 < Tony_Sidaway> jsharpminor: we direct people to #wikipedia-en-help for help.
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23:04  * jeremyb sleeps
23:04 < Tony_Sidaway> Benoit-Rochon: from the Canadian website: "Wiki Loves Monuments is an international photographic competition to valorize historic sites around the World"
23:04 < Benoit-Rochon> Tony_Sidaway: Thank you so much...
23:04 < Sp33dyphil> hi
23:04 < Tony_Sidaway> Benoit-Rochon: I think the word "valorize" should be replaced by "promote".
23:05 < Sp33dyphil> is it true that some members of the North Korean soccer team was executed following the 2010 FIFA World Cup?
23:05 < Tony_Sidaway> "valorize" is a very unfamiliar word, but the meaning is evident.
23:05 < Benoit-Rochon> Tony_Sidaway: "promote"... done
23:06 < Benoit-Rochon> Tony_Sidaway: French - English : valoriser....
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23:06 < Benoit-Rochon> Tony_Sidaway: :-S
23:09 < Tony_Sidaway> Sp33dyphil: this isn't a general knowledge channel, but no, the rumours of executions seem to have been just that.
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23:10 < Benoit-Rochon> Tony_Sidaway: So I can feed "press wires" with WLM Canada press release?
23:10 < funnyfarm299> WHY does everyone think WP is the place to put relationship info?
23:10 < Sp33dyphil> Tony_Sidaway: thanks. If true, that would've been very overreactive.
23:10 < funnyfarm299> Especially not citing anything
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23:15 < Tony_Sidaway> Benoit-Rochon: I think it's ready for publication.
23:16 < Benoit-Rochon> Tony_Sidaway: Thanks for your precious help.
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23:34 < Ironholds> hey, wctaiwan
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23:37  * Isarra hug-tackles wctaiwan and forcefeeds him an svg definition.
23:37 < wctaiwan> hi, hi.
23:39  * Isarra follows through with a potato.
23:41 < wctaiwan> o_o
23:41 < wctaiwan> potatoes are delicious.
23:41 < Isarra> I don t like them.
23:41 < wctaiwan> eh.
23:42 < Mdann52> What?
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23:42 < Tony_Sidaway> Boiled potatoes are rather lovely.
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23:46 < Isarra> Clearly he s english.
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23:46 < Mdann52> Ok..... Someone just got banned
23:46 < wctaiwan> s/banned/unbanned/
23:47 < Mdann52> Ok
23:47 < wctaiwan> (if it was banning it'd be +bo. and eir doesn't do banning automatically)
23:48 < wctaiwan> +b, not +bo, sorry.
23:48 < Mdann52> Makes sense
23:49 < Isarra> Ban eir!
23:49 < Isarra> It s the only solution!
23:49 < lahwran> yes, definitely +bo
23:49 < lahwran> because opping someone as you ban them is the preferable way to do it
23:49 < wctaiwan> Isarra: like how uncyclopedia banned chanserv?
23:49 < Mdann52> :)
23:49 < wctaiwan> lahwran: I'm confused by that. Why?
23:49 < lahwran> not possible
23:49 < lahwran> wctaiwan: because sarcasm is the greatest thing humans have created
23:49 < Isarra> You can t ban chanserv.
23:49 < Isarra> I know this.
23:49 < wctaiwan> why does it -bo though?
23:49 < Isarra> I ve tried.
23:50 < lahwran> in case someone is opped
23:50 < lahwran> hard to ban if they are
23:50 < wctaiwan> well, somehow ChanServ is not in #uncyclopedia and yet there's still an access list.
23:50 < lahwran> comes from the days before chanserv, I think
23:50 < Isarra> It s a channel setting.
23:50 < lahwran> you don't need chanserv to be in channel - that's the "guard" flag
23:50 < wctaiwan> oh, heh.
23:50 < Isarra> You can set it to be in or nout.
23:50 < lahwran> easy to shut off with /cs set #channel guard <on|off>
23:50 < wctaiwan> TIL, I guess.
23:50 < Isarra> Uncyclopedia did ban AntiSpamMeta, though.
23:51 < Mdann52> AntiSpamMeta told us all to stab ow last night though.....
23:52 < wctaiwan> ow runs AntiSpamMeta :p
23:52 < Mdann52> :)
23:52  * Mdann52 stabs AntiSpamMeta
23:53 < Isarra> Bloody hell, it s sunday and instead of having something amazing to show for the past week, I m sitting here with a bag of nut dregs.
23:56 < Elduen> And a pile of dirt!~
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23:56 < Isarra> The pile of dirt is gone.
23:56 < Elduen> Well, that's amazing.
23:56 < eeekster> am not
23:57 < Isarra> Hello, eeekster.
23:57 < eeekster> hi there
23:58 < eeekster> fedora 16 update to fedora 17 left lots of old rpms installed...sigh
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23:58 < wctaiwan> lol Linux >.>
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23:59 < closedmouth> when eir goes -bo it's removing the ban and deopping itself in one line
23:59 < closedmouth> it's not deopping the banned person
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