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--- Log opened Sun Aug 12 00:00:06 2012
00:01 < SigmaWP> Huh
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00:01 < SigmaWP> Something is wrong with conservapedia
00:01 < SigmaWP> Well
00:01 < SigmaWP> Something is wrong with conservapedia's logout button :P
00:01 < wctaiwan> Som,e
00:01 < wctaiwan> Something is always wrong with Conservapedia.
00:01 < Apheori> Who cares?
00:01 < wctaiwan> there is always something wrong with conservapedia
00:01  * wctaiwan mumbles incoherently
00:02 < SigmaWP> People who are trying to write mediawiki-interacting clients
00:02 < SigmaWP> It sets the logout cookies, but at an expiry date no less than one year in the past
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00:08 < TeeTylerToe> why not get a coffee machine
00:10 < SigmaWP> The curation toolbar sends CSD notices that are causing people to talk to me!
00:10 < SigmaWP> Any admin here?
00:12 < SigmaWP> mattbuck: Are you an admin?
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00:16 < wctaiwan> TeeTylerToe: I don't own this place :p
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00:17 < SigmaWP>  Snowolf Poke
00:18 < SigmaWP> RD: Poke
00:18 < SigmaWP> OlEnglish: Poke
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00:19 < SigmaWP> matt_buck: Are you an admin?
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00:28 < SigmaWP> closedmouth: Can you give me the content of Fastily's user talk edit notice?
00:28 < SigmaWP> Most recent revision
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00:30 < closedmouth> why?
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00:31 < SigmaWP> I want to have his "If I speedied your article..." thing
00:31 < SigmaWP> I'm not sure if it was him who had it
00:32 < Peter-C> WTF, intubation isn’t a skill you put on a fucking resume
00:32 < Peter-C> Its like saying you are a movie theater that serves popcorn
00:32  * Peter-C flips over a desk
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00:33 < closedmouth> who's a movie theater?
00:34  * Peter-C flips over closedmouth
00:35 < SigmaWP> Haha
00:35 < SigmaWP> closedmouth: Nevermind, I found it
00:35 < SigmaWP> It was rescued by Skier Dude
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00:36 < SigmaWP> Partially
00:36 < closedmouth> User:Fastily/E ?
00:37 < jorm> Steven_Zhang: No.  Should I care?
00:37 < Steven_Zhang> Yeah.
00:37 < SigmaWP> closedmouth: Was that it? If so, can you pastebin it?
00:37 < SigmaWP> Skier Dude did not rescue the A7 part, if any
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00:50 < Steven_Zhang> It's too quiet.
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00:55 < SigmaWP> The people are going to sleep.
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01:05 < TeeTylerToe> the new bourne any good?
01:06 < BlastHardcheese> bourne shell?
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01:13 < TeeTylerToe> Are you crazy?!?  The bourne again shell
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01:18 < SigmaWP> export WINEPREFIX=/home/john/.wine/
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01:33 < Steven_Zhang> closedmouth: I don't have ops.
01:33 < Steven_Zhang> in #wikipedia
01:34 < closedmouth> good to know i guess
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01:35 < TeeTylerToe> why isn't there better coverage on paul ryan's roadmap for america's future?
01:36 < closedmouth> because yawn
01:37 < TeeTylerToe> it doesn't look like paul ryan's views on social security are covered anywhere other than the vague "he proposed privetizing it"
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01:48 < SigmaWP> Bye!
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03:35 < Anna_Frodesiak> what's the right avenue to get persistent copyvio editor blocked?
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03:36 < Anna_Frodesiak> hundreds of incidents
03:37 < Anna_Frodesiak> ?
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03:45 < Frostee> Magic
03:48 < Mdann52> [11:49] (Mdann52) Can I have some advice regarding [[User: Chaoticstrom]] please
03:49 < Mdann52> [11:49] (Mdann52) It appears to be someone trying to use Wikipedia for website hosting
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03:53 < Jarry1250> Mdaann52: Deleted.
03:53 < Jarry1250> *Mdann52
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03:56 < foks> iOS users: Kayak Pro is free for the next week. :3
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05:40 < yao_ziyuan> it seems wikipedia uses .ogg for audio clips but IE (in windows 7) doesn't support playing it. any idea?
05:42 < wctaiwan> yao_ziyuan: it should fallback to using a java player
05:42 < wctaiwan> if you have a JVM installed.
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05:43 < yao_ziyuan> wctaiwan: doesn't look like so. it only shows two options:
05:43 < yao_ziyuan> Native browser support (selected)
05:43 < yao_ziyuan> No player
05:43 < mareklug> yao_ziyuan:  or you could download something that plays ogg, like vlc, and point i.e. to it
05:43 < yao_ziyuan> this is IE9 under windows 7
05:44 < wctaiwan> yao_ziyuan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_help_(Ogg)
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05:46 < yao_ziyuan> all right
05:46 < yao_ziyuan> i'm shocked by wikipedia's user unfriendliness
05:46 < wctaiwan> (i.e. you can get a plugin for Windows Media Player, or if there is no java player, you probably don't have JVM and need to download one)
05:46 < yao_ziyuan> not that i'm tech-unsavvy
05:46 < wctaiwan> either would work.
05:47 < yao_ziyuan> why doesn't wikipedia just use mp3
05:47 < wctaiwan> because MP3 is not a free format.
05:47 < wctaiwan> I don't particularly support the decision, but I think that's the root reason why they didn't choose it.
05:48 < mareklug> of all the options, downloading java just to play ogg is unnecessarily risky as java has a lot of security holes.  i suggest you use firefox or opera for this or get vlc
05:48 < wctaiwan> Java doesn't have a lot of security holes. It's just more susceptible to attacks due to the fact that it basically runs code.
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05:49 < yao_ziyuan1> test: free
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05:55 < mareklug> wctaiwan:  "Apr 6, 2012 – A Mac OS X Virus and malware outbreak was actually an Oracle Java security hole."
05:56 < wctaiwan> mareklug: well, patched yet?
05:56 < mareklug> "Summary: Oracle today issued a security alert to warn about 21 security holes in its widely deployed Java SE and Java for Business products."
05:57 < wctaiwan> eeh.
05:57 < wctaiwan> fine you're right :p
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06:01 < mareklug> wctaiwan:  not to belabor the point, but google search with: java security holes      shows a progression of dates, latest being Jul 9, 2012 indicating that Oracle fixed another umpteen "security vulnerabilities in its Java JRE software"
06:01 < wctaiwan> mea culpa? :P
06:01 < mareklug> this seems to never end
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06:01 < wctaiwan> I do have java disabled in my browser, but yeah.
06:02 < mareklug> i switched it off on my mac
06:02 < wctaiwan> I have it installed, but safari's pretty much the only attack vector unless I'm dumb enough to launch malware myself or inadvertently open an infected file
06:03 < wctaiwan> I sometimes need it.
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06:38 < Mdann52> !admin
06:38 < Mdann52> Any around?
06:38 < Ebe123> Just ask your question
06:38 < Ebe123> or request
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06:38 < Ebe123> there are sysops here
06:39 < Mdann52> I think I've spotted someone saying there account is compromised
06:40 < Mdann52> [[User:Cyberhawk5]]is the account
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06:41 < Ebe123> User:Cyberhawk5 does not exist
06:41 < closedmouth> the hell?
06:45  * haggis sends closedmouth to the hell
06:46 < closedmouth> yeah whatever man
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07:04 < Frood> closedmouth: but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cyberhawk_5 does
07:04 < Qcoder02> Anyone here know anyone that understands NNTP?
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07:04 < Qcoder02> I'm needing a 'special' program
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07:27 < TeeTylerToe> I remember this being better...  uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/AAAAAAAAA!  maybe it's a different page
07:28 < wctaiwan> nope, pretty sure it's always been like that
07:28 < wctaiwan> or similar.
07:28 < foks> Does anyone know what Horde is?
07:29 < wctaiwan> I like Uncyc's FA today.
07:29 < wctaiwan> foks: a webmail client?
07:29 < wctaiwan> also lots of other things but..
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07:29 < TeeTylerToe> in my memory the images were better
07:30 < wctaiwan> eh well.
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07:30 < foks> wctaiwan, hmm
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07:31 < ChrisGualtieri> Ocaasi: Are you awake?
07:31 < foks> ack, gotta shoot
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07:32 < TeeTylerToe> an ad-hoc group of mongols similar to a poorly armed flash mob?
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07:32 < Ironholds> TeeTylerToe: you need the WMF?
07:32 < Ironholds> ;p
07:33 < TeeTylerToe> ?
07:33 < ChrisGualtieri> I need a job >.>
07:33 < TeeTylerToe> to protect me from the Mongols?
07:33 < TeeTylerToe> maybe the mongols are hiring Chris
07:33 < Qcoder02> Anyone here know Python or Perl?
07:33 < wctaiwan> Qcoder02: you can ask Earwig when they're around, and I believe SigmaWP knows some too.
07:34 < Qcoder02> OK
07:34 < Mdann52> Any admins around?
07:34 < Qcoder02> I am considering asking for someone to write me a spam-basher tool
07:34 < wctaiwan> and well, maybe others too… lots of Wikipedians are programmers.
07:34 < Qcoder02> for USENET
07:35 < Mdann52> !admin I need some help please
07:36 < Frood> Mdann52: Just ask your question.
07:36 < Qcoder02> Mdann52 :  Please state the nature of the Wikipedia emergency
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07:36 < Frood> adding another line just makes it harder for the admin
07:36 < Mdann52> I really need to do it through PM
07:36 < Mdann52> Or whatever it's called on here
07:38 < Qcoder02> Mdann52:  I'm not an admin
07:39 < Mdann52> I wanted to know if any were around on here
07:40 < Qcoder02> There are usally at least a dozen admins on here
07:40 < wctaiwan> I'm sure Ironholds can help
07:40  * wctaiwan runs
07:41 < Mdann52> :)
07:41 < Mdann52> Ok, I'll try him then
07:41 < wctaiwan> (yeah, I mean, he's an admin, but he might be busy, and stuff)
07:42 < Mdann52> (He's only in the WMF, nothing special our anything)
07:44 < ChrisGualtieri> Lol
07:44 < wctaiwan> How can you get to the File page for a picture that links to another page?
07:45 < wctaiwan> (Normally you'd click on it, but you can't do that here...)
07:45 < closedmouth> copy the file name, search for file:name.jpg
07:45 < wctaiwan> ><
07:45 < closedmouth> not linking to the image breaks attribution, though
07:46 < wctaiwan> it's userpage stuff.
07:46 < wctaiwan> not uncommon
07:47 < wctaiwan> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Colloquy-irc-icon.png …does open source software automatically mean that the artwork is open for reuse as well?
07:47 < wctaiwan> I thought you could open source your code but still keep the artwork non-free.
07:49 < Ironholds> mmmmn
07:49 < Ironholds> today is TUBING day.
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07:52 < Frood> wctaiwan: you can
07:52 < wctaiwan> Frood: then I think we need to look really hard whether that image is actually free...
07:52 < wctaiwan> I'm having a hard time finding the licence for colloquy itself, not to mention the artwork -_-
07:52 < wctaiwan> but it's so widely used.
07:53 < Frood> On OS X, it's GPL
07:53 < Frood> Closed source for iOS though
07:53 < Frood> iirc.
07:53 < closedmouth> there's no assumption when it comes to copyright
07:53 < wctaiwan> yeah well, I don't think they've explicitly licensed the icon.
07:54 < wctaiwan> but I'd loathe to POINTily nominate the file for deletion. Maybe someone who cares enough would write an email to them and check? >.>
07:54 < Frood> Well, the guy who uploaded created Colloquy
07:54 < Frood> at least that's what his name suggests
07:54 < wctaiwan> oh
07:54 < Frood> should probably request ORTS perm though
07:55 < Frood> because impersonation can happen
07:55 < wctaiwan> slightly more promising, then :p
07:55 < closedmouth> wctaiwan: see the talk page
07:56 < wctaiwan> oh, great.
07:56 < wctaiwan> should have done that before >.> sorry.
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08:04 < ChrisGualtieri> "In the London Olympics, Jamaica (Usain Bolt pictured) and the United States set world records in the men's 4 × 100 metres relay and the women's 4 × 100 metres relay, respectively."
08:04 < ChrisGualtieri> I read that as Usain bolt won the women's relay >.>; LOL
08:04 < wctaiwan> that was an odd blurb, yeah
08:04 < wctaiwan> has compromise written all over it
08:04 < ChrisGualtieri> Especially since the word 'respectively' which means I was looking for a second name
08:05 < mareklug> the blurb is grammatically and stylistically correct
08:05 < ChrisGualtieri> Defaults to 'Usain Bolt wins men's and women's relay'
08:05 < ChrisGualtieri> Incorrect.
08:05 < wctaiwan> mareklug: countries don't set records; people do.
08:05 < mareklug> make your case.  it's standard usage with correct punctuation
08:05 < wctaiwan> (well, records in sports)
08:06 < ChrisGualtieri> wctaiwan is correct about records.
08:06 < mareklug> countries do when they are metynomies
08:06 < ChrisGualtieri> The wording is pretty poor
08:06 < shimgray> wctaiwan, bear in mind that in this case they're national teams
08:06 < ChrisGualtieri> Hetalia aside...
08:06 < shimgray> my initial reaction was the same as yours, & it is a bit clunky, but country is sort of appropriate here
08:06 < ChrisGualtieri> The sentence is too jumbled and awkward
08:07 < wctaiwan> Oh, I see what it's supposed to say..
08:07 < wctaiwan> but yeah, even if it's correct it's fairly awkward :/
08:07 < mareklug> you guys just have weak parsing skills
08:07 < ChrisGualtieri> But its not correct if it is so awkward >.>
08:07 < wctaiwan> though I could see why they couldn't have used full team names due to length constraints
08:07 < wctaiwan> mareklug: blaming me won't solve the problem of other readers reading it twice before getting it :P
08:08 < mareklug> such is the beauty of the English language.  it admits complex compound sentnces.  but you're welcome to rephrase it.
08:08 < ChrisGualtieri> "In the London Olympics, Usain Bolt of Jamaica (pictured) win the men's 4x 100 meters relay and <Name> of USA win's the women's 4 x 100 meters relay."
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08:09 < mareklug> there are 4 names there, man
08:09 < ChrisGualtieri> Flow of a sentence is key to understanding it.
08:09 < wctaiwan> ChrisGualtieri: that's the problem, it's a relay race.
08:09 < wctaiwan> what they mean is the US team and the Jamaican team, respectively.
08:09 < ChrisGualtieri> Mareklug, who's the women's winner?
08:09 < mareklug> the name of the athlete in question is technically USA
08:09 < ChrisGualtieri> Yeah, but if you are going to cite name, cite BOTH names.
08:10 < ChrisGualtieri> Not just Bolt's
08:10 < mareklug> damn kit.  someone explain the relay to Chris
08:10 < wctaiwan> they didn't cite names, Usain Bolt is written in parentheses only because he's the one in the picture.
08:11 < wctaiwan> mareklug: I dunno, I think "the US team" and "the Jamaican team" might have been better, but also longer for what is already a really long blurb.
08:11 < mareklug> if the blurb was about the football team, you'd want the 22 names there, too?
08:11 < ChrisGualtieri> While that is true, you still make it awkward by citing him and using his name in the sentence. Even Mareklug said 'there are 4 names there'
08:11 < shimgray> ChrisGualtieri - eight names :-)
08:11 < shimgray> (two teams of four, plus I suppose the countries as well, so ten)
08:11 < mareklug> yeah, 8 names cuz qualifiers count
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08:12 < shimgray> qualifiers?
08:12 < mareklug> runners who ran b4 the final also get medal
08:12 < ChrisGualtieri> Its awkward, and I'm not the best copyeditor, but seriously we all see its weird
08:12 < shimgray> oh, I wasn't thinking about them, just the four finalists x 2 races
08:13 < Frood> augh
08:13 < mareklug> believe me, standard usage here is country name alone
08:13 < Frood> Should I RMA this power supply, or just fuck it and get a new one?
08:13 < wctaiwan> please don't fuck it >.>
08:13  * wctaiwan runs
08:13 < mareklug> ram costs nothing
08:13 < mareklug> rma
08:13 < Frood> *say fuck it
08:13 < Frood> mareklug: but then i'm without a computer for a month
08:13 < Frood> and it costs to ship it back
08:14 < ChrisGualtieri> Newegg or no?
08:14 < mareklug> ram it and buy yourself a repl.
08:14 < Frood> yes
08:14 < mareklug> rma
08:14 < ChrisGualtieri> RMA then
08:14 < Frood> they just send me a different one, no money back
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08:15 < Frood> the newegg return period is passed
08:15 < ChrisGualtieri> Buy a new one, ask for warranty from manufactor
08:15 < ChrisGualtieri> Turn around time could be a real month or more in that case
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08:16 < ChrisGualtieri> That or hope you got a starbucks near by and look like a beatnik
08:16 < mareklug> Spain is just a point behind USA in bball at halftime.  now 4.
08:16 < wctaiwan> Hm, Indian English actually has different pronunciations for some words.
08:16 < ChrisGualtieri> Curiousity is beaming back pictures from Mars >.>;
08:17 < ChrisGualtieri> Crowning technical achievement does not get the same coverage as a bunch of athletes playing sports
08:17 < ChrisGualtieri> How sad
08:17 < wctaiwan> eye-tuh-rate instead of it-uh-rate for 'iterate', for example.
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08:18 < mareklug> wctaiwan:  there is Sangeeta the Indian voice, available on the mac.
08:18 < mareklug> Indian English
08:19 < LikeLakers2> lawl
08:19 < LikeLakers2> my tablet just crashed
08:19 < LikeLakers2> I was watching a video
08:19 < wctaiwan> ergh, a 360MB download. I'll pass
08:19 < wctaiwan> thanks for the information though, mareklug
08:19 < LikeLakers2> and my screen of it suddenly went all light blue
08:19 < mareklug> is it an android?
08:19 < LikeLakers2> possibly light cyan
08:19 < LikeLakers2> except for a bit of the top, and on the bottom where the status bar would be
08:19 < LikeLakers2> yeah
08:19 < mareklug> wctaiwan:  but she is so charming
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08:20 < wctaiwan> heh...
08:20 < LikeLakers2> mareklug, yeah
08:20 < LikeLakers2> Android 3.2
08:20 < LikeLakers2> Kernel version 2.6.36.3 se.infra@SEP-81 #1
08:20 < LikeLakers2> if you're wondering
08:21 < Frood> almost $10 for shipping
08:21 < Frood> i dunno
08:21 < mareklug> LikeLakers2:  i must say i have not seen an iOS crash yet.  apps close and stuff, but no system crash
08:21 < LikeLakers2> ...
08:21 < Frood> is it even worth that, or do I buy new one that's a decent brand
08:21 < LikeLakers2> ITS ANDROID
08:21 < LikeLakers2> not iOS
08:22 < LikeLakers2> well, I've had an app force close on me on android tons of times
08:22 < mareklug> LikeLakers2:  yes, you told us.  i was just fyi and comparing.  jeez.
08:22 < LikeLakers2> on my tablet, its usually unstable
08:22 < ChrisGualtieri> I haven't had a Windows 7 crash either... so woo hoo?
08:22 < LikeLakers2> where if an app freezes, usually the whole tablet wont respond
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08:22 < LikeLakers2> its only on my tablet, oddly enough
08:23 < LikeLakers2> also ironic
08:23 < wctaiwan> Windows 7 and OS X are both pretty solid, from experience.
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08:23 < wctaiwan> Android is also fairly stable for me, though...
08:23 < LikeLakers2> my phone, which is running Android 2.x
08:23 < LikeLakers2> is more stable than my tablet
08:23 < wctaiwan> well, to be expected of new hardware.
08:23 < LikeLakers2> and has more ram
08:23 < LikeLakers2> almost 100MB more
08:24 < LikeLakers2> Tablet has 724MB ram, while my phone has 808MB ram
08:24 < wctaiwan> doesn't the Nexus 7 have 1GB?
08:24 < wctaiwan> o_O
08:24 < wctaiwan> you mean free ram?
08:24 < wctaiwan> I'm pretty sure Nexus 7 has 1GB standard.
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08:27 < LikeLakers2> wctaiwan, no, I mean total
08:27 < LikeLakers2> usually either one is using over half
08:27 < LikeLakers2> especially my tablet
08:28 < LikeLakers2> my tablet literally has 400+ apps on it
08:28 < LikeLakers2> I am having trouble installing apps on my phone though
08:28 < LikeLakers2> plenty of freaking space
08:28 < wctaiwan> well that explains part of the instability >.>
08:28 < LikeLakers2> yet it still says insufficient storage
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08:28 < LikeLakers2> wctaiwan, yeah
08:28 < LikeLakers2> but
08:29 < LikeLakers2> one app freezing shouldnt freeze the whole system
08:29 < LikeLakers2> on my phone, it technically does
08:29 < LikeLakers2> but
08:29 < LikeLakers2> it still responds to the home button
08:29 < LikeLakers2> meaning its not really frozen
08:29 < wctaiwan> LikeLakers2: looks like part of the 1GB is used for graphics
08:29 < mareklug> well flash in opera does freeze the gui of my mac often enough
08:30 < LikeLakers2> yeah
08:30 < LikeLakers2> for some odd reason
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08:30 < LikeLakers2> ever since my laptop's hdd has been acting wonky
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08:30 < LikeLakers2> (and yes, thats what I'm on right now)
08:30 < LikeLakers2> it freezes the vvideo on youtube every so often
08:30 < LikeLakers2> but
08:31 < LikeLakers2> oddly enough, it doesnt do that when on HD
08:31 < LikeLakers2> meaning
08:31 < wctaiwan> I need to kill some of my watchlist. August 12 is taking up half the screen.
08:31 < LikeLakers2> "Do I want no freezing, better quality, but more bandwidth usage?"
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08:31 < LikeLakers2> "Or do I want less bandwidth usage, but freezing?"
08:31 < wctaiwan> is your internet capped?
08:31 < LikeLakers2> not really
08:32 < LikeLakers2> but it slows down when both me and my mom are on it at the same time
08:32 < wctaiwan> oh.
08:32 < LikeLakers2> whats cool though
08:32 < LikeLakers2> is that my internet has been so fast
08:32 < LikeLakers2> I kid you not, I can save a, say, 15MB file from the internet
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08:33 < LikeLakers2> and it takes like a second or two to finish
08:33 < LikeLakers2> thats how fast it is
08:33 < wctaiwan> that
08:33 < wctaiwan> that's nice.
08:33 < wctaiwan> I only have 12Mbps downstream.
08:33 < wctaiwan> (that's the theoretical maximum)
08:33 < LikeLakers2> my phone usually reports a 65Mbps internet speed for my router
08:34 < LikeLakers2> I've even had it go so fast, that steam shows games, or game updates, going at a few MB/s
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08:34 < LikeLakers2> what is humorous though
08:34 < LikeLakers2> is that when I'm at my dads house
08:35 < LikeLakers2> I usually have my laptop, my tablet, and my phone all connected to my dads router
08:35 < LikeLakers2> and when my dad's internet is going slow for him, usually the first thing he asks is asking me how many things I have connected to it
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08:36 < delirious> i hate your speed.
08:36 < LikeLakers2> lol
08:37 < delirious> no, i believe the proper initialism is fu
08:37 < LikeLakers2> lol
08:37 < LikeLakers2> I swear
08:38 < LikeLakers2> in Minecraft, enderman are so cool
08:38 < LikeLakers2> but
08:38 < delirious> i curse
08:38 < LikeLakers2> they sound so fucking creepy
08:38 < wctaiwan> slenderman is supposed to be creepy
08:38 < Dragonfly6-7> I prefer SCP-173
08:39 < delirious> i prefer chubbyman
08:39 < wctaiwan> Dragonfly6-7: screw you I was going to bed.
08:39  * wctaiwan goes read some -J SCPs to clear his mind
08:39 < Dragonfly6-7> wctaiwan - I'm a frequent contributor to the SCP Foundation
08:39 < Dragonfly6-7> with over a dozen SCPs to my name
08:39 < wctaiwan> nice.
08:40 < Dragonfly6-7> wctaiwan - have you read the object of indescribable action?
08:40 < wctaiwan> Nope.
08:40 < wctaiwan> Not now :P
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08:41 < Dragonfly6-7> wctaiwan - that one's a good J
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08:42 < delirious> have you any idea how little i know of the context of this conversation. Society For Cruelty Promotion.
08:42 < delirious> i thought SCP-173 was a Samsung phone  model number :)
08:43 < wctaiwan> o_O
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08:44 < wctaiwan> I checked 4237.
08:44 < wctaiwan> Don't exactly get it.
08:44 < wctaiwan> (that's the object of indescribable action)
08:44 < wctaiwan> delirious: that's the one that isn't an iphone clone but rather horribly deformed :)
08:45 < delirious> well i like my iphone 3G
08:46 < wctaiwan> My dad hated his.
08:46 < wctaiwan> then he got an iPhone 4S and now he loves that one.
08:46 < delirious> it can't run most of the apps i want to add to it
08:46 < Frood> delirious: the 3G? O_o
08:46 < Frood> that's kind of old, isn't it?
08:46 < wctaiwan> well for him the main issue was the sluggishness once you updated it to iOS 4.
08:46 < Frood> that's like, three versions old!
08:46 < delirious> I paid nearly $900 for it. They aren't cheap in CA
08:47 < Frood> Guess you're not a typical Apple user? :P
08:47 < Frood> "OMG NEW iPHONE MUST HAVE"
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08:47 < wctaiwan> lol, the only place where telcos are worse than in the US is canada :P
08:47 < delirious> I am an atypical Apple user.    Buy tv show. Remove DRM. Watch with VLC.
08:47 < Frood> wctaiwan: presumably she bought it unsubsidized
08:48 < Frood> which is not a horrible thing, if you don't plan on keeping on the same carrier
08:48 < wctaiwan> Frood: right, but my statement still largely stands (aside from the jokishness)
08:48 < Frood> we have contracts with Sprint until 2014, because they're the least crappy carrier we've used
08:49 < wctaiwan> yeah, my dad bought his unsubsidised too. To me it's crazy spending what one would spend on a laptop on a phone...
08:49 < delirious> Rogers changed their offer like 3 days after i bought it. Took my complaint to the CEO who told me he basically didn't give a fuck. Cost me $500.
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08:50 < wctaiwan> Google changed their calculator
08:50 < wctaiwan> now you actually get a calculator, instead of just a line of text showing you the results.
08:51 < delirious> i HAD to buy it no-contract because i was an existing, albeit out-of-contract, customer
08:51 < foks> yes!
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08:51 < Frood> delirious: that's stupid
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08:51 < Frood> most carriers here don't care if you're an existing customer, as long as you signa  contract.
08:52 < delirious> few days later they start selling iphone to existing customers and i launch my complaint
08:52 < mareklug> pretty useless, considering one uses their calculator for all kinds of conversions
08:52 < wctaiwan> yeah mareklug, I suspect it's still in A/B testing.
08:52 < delirious> iphone 2g wasn't sold in canada so this was the launch of the product and they were the exclusive carrier and only offering it to new customers
08:52 < wctaiwan> can't imagine the screen real estate "above the fold" being worth it
08:53 < wctaiwan> that said they're doing the gmail in search results thing. That's an even worse idea and they're going ahead with it.
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08:57 < wctaiwan> bedtime.
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08:59 < AzaToth> delirious: from what I've heard, Roges is the lousiest, worse, most evil, and shittiest ISP on the planet
08:59 < AzaToth> Rogers*
09:00 < AzaToth> delirious: though if you buy/use an iPhone/iPad, it's your own fault :-P
09:00 < foks> Hey!
09:01 < AzaToth> buying an iPhone is like opting to use Rogers :-P
09:02 < foks> I've never heard of Rodgers.
09:02 < mareklug> Rodgers Centre in Toronto?  the awesome stadium
09:02 < AzaToth> foks: http://www.rogers.com
09:03 < foks> I need to go for a sec
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09:03 < delirious> AzaToth: i don't live where Rogers offers internet  sans mobile phone      but they kept wanting to get me to bundle with them.
09:04 < AzaToth> delirious: heh
09:04 < AzaToth> but... they have "superfast superphones" with "epic student bonuses"
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09:08 < AzaToth> what is "commerical purposes"?
09:08 < AzaToth> i.e. does it say include reading work emails, or working from home?
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09:11 < AzaToth> lol... Rogers doesn't allow you to have a web server on your computer
09:11 < AzaToth> (and neither a gopher server)
09:11 < Frood> AzaToth: Most ISPs don't allow that
09:11 < AzaToth> Frood: they don't+
09:11 < Frood> but a lot don't enforce it, either.
09:11 < AzaToth> ?
09:12 < AzaToth> "operate a server in connection with the Services, including, without limitation, mail, news, file, gopher, telnet, chat, Web, or host
09:12 < AzaToth> configuration servers, multimedia streamers or multi-user interactive forums;"
09:12 < AzaToth> not many *nix systems are allowed on Rogers...
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09:12 < Frood> didn't say game :P
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09:12 < Shirik> hi eir
09:12 < Frood> eir: you power abuser
09:13 < AzaToth> hehe
09:13 < AzaToth> I like that they include gopher
09:13 < Shirik> what if I get a virus that exposes a web server interface
09:14 < Shirik> does that mean I am violating the tos?
09:14 < AzaToth> Shirik: yup
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09:14 < AzaToth> Shirik: that's ok imo
09:14 < Shirik> not according to their tos
09:14 < AzaToth> it's your own fault if you get a virus
09:14 < Shirik> oh I see what you're saying
09:14 < Shirik> yes, agreed
09:15 < Frood> My ISP doesn't allow "standalone" servers
09:15 < AzaToth> Frood: which isp?
09:15 < Frood> so I guess they technically allow servers, as long as it's hosted on a multi-purpose computer :P
09:15 < Frood> AzaToth: Mediacom.
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09:16 < The_Thing> F A I L : www.youtube.com/watch?v=30r2YqoH2eI
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09:18 < AzaToth> Frood: my ISP states "Easier servers may be connected unless otherwise notified from time to time"
09:19 < The_Thing> easier?
09:19 < AzaToth> (didn't have energy to translate manually, so I made a google translation)
09:19 < AzaToth> simpler servers
09:19 < Frood> AzaToth: wtf does that mean
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09:19 < The_Thing> What does that even mean?
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09:20 < AzaToth> The_Thing: that's not defined
09:20 < The_Thing> Exactly
09:20 < AzaToth> The_Thing: it's Sweden
09:23 < Trenton> ipv6
09:23 < russavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Volkin  would someone like to take this to afd
09:23 < russavia> it should never have been moved into mainspace
09:23 < AzaToth> The_Thing: My interpretation is that they mean servers that are not for commerical use nor requires specific server hardware to run
09:23 < Trenton> ain't gng-level
09:23 < Trenton> but I can't
09:24 < AzaToth> Trenton: context?
09:24 < AzaToth> and please tell us what "gng-level" is
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09:28 < russavia> foks could you AFd or speedy this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Volkin -- it's an unsourced BLP vanity article
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09:33 < The_Thing> AzaToth: ah
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09:39 < SweetMan15> Skype 10inch Pakistani Penis PakistaniLover15
09:39 < SweetMan15> Skype 10inch Pakistani Penis PakistaniLover15
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09:39 < Mdann52> Ok....
09:40 < The_Thing> ooook then?
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09:40 < Kraps> humor can be found anywhere
09:40 < The_Thing> He wants us to join him on skype to view his 10 inch penis?
09:40 < The_Thing> :p
09:41 < The_Thing> 10 millimeter penis, more likely :p
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09:42 < Mdann52> :)
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09:51 < AzaToth> The_Thing: it's a pakistani penis duh
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09:57  * flailz gayhugs The_Thing
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11:21 < Shearonink> If there are any admins around, there's an internal editing note that needs to be adjusted at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington since the links seem to be out-of-date.
11:21 < Shearonink> The eternal argument about when George Washington was born.
11:21 < Shearonink> Old Style vs New Style dating
11:21 < Shearonink> Thankseverso
11:22 < Mdann52> And if there is one around, can they PM me on here as well - I need to talk about an issue I have discovered
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11:39 < mysterytrey> How vague.
11:40 < Rain777> good afternoon everybody!!!
11:40 < Dcoetzee> Rain777: Good afternoon :-)
11:41 < Mdann52> Hi there
11:41 < SigmaWP> Hello
11:41  * Dcoetzee is guessing Rain777 is East Coast US
11:42 < Rain777> lol no Im in Argentina
11:43 < Dcoetzee> Awww I lose. :-)
11:43 < mysterytrey> Poor Dcoetzee.
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11:43 < mysterytrey> Nevertheless, we must kill you.
11:44 < Rain777> haha
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11:44 < mysterytrey> Hello there, Guest88818.  How are you today?
11:45 < Rain777> since you guys are from the US, I have some questions to ask
11:45 < Rain777> Im considering moving there next year
11:45 < Dcoetzee> That explains why your English is pretty good.
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11:46 < mysterytrey> We're from the US?
11:46 < BlastHardcheese> fuck off we're full
11:46 < Dcoetzee> :-P
11:46 < Rain777> one of you at least...
11:47 < Dcoetzee> Well I am, although I didn't say that, I'm West Coast US.
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11:47 < mysterytrey> Dcoetzee: You should go to Iceland.  We welcome you.
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11:48 < Rain777> I was about to ask where you are from, mystery
11:48 < mysterytrey> Oh!  I'm cared about.  I feel so... *faints*
11:49 < Rain777> haha
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11:49 < Dcoetzee> Iceland is awesome :-)
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11:50 < mysterytrey> Yes.  Yes it is.
11:50 < Rain777> Im planning to continue college in the US or Europe so Im gathering a little intel :)
11:50 < Dcoetzee> I mean their economic situation is pretty bad. But I like a lot of their progressive attitudes.
11:50 < Dcoetzee> Rain777: Anything in particular you're curious about?
11:51 < Rain777> well my main concern is if Ill be able to find a part time job to pay for tuition...
11:51 < mysterytrey> It should be noted that the US has hot weather.
11:52 < mysterytrey> Like 70s.  Bleh.
11:52 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Not all of it... e.g. Alaska, Minnesota, Michigan are pretty cold
11:52 < Dcoetzee> Colorado too
11:52 < mysterytrey> Well, alaska maybe, but...
11:52 < Rain777> yeah thats the cool thing about america
11:52 < Rain777> lots of differrent people and weather
11:53 < Rain777> *different
11:53 < Dcoetzee> Rain777: I'm afraid the unemployment rate is currently about 8.2%. Better than it was last year, but high above the usual base rate of 5%. There's a lot of competition for jobs not requiring degrees.
11:53 < Dcoetzee> Of course that will vary a lot based on location too.
11:55 < mysterytrey> Oooh politics.
11:55 < Rain777> yeah, I still havent thought about where in the US Id like to go
11:56 < Rain777> So mystery, tell us about iceland
11:56 < mysterytrey> Never!
11:56 < Rain777> lol
11:56 < mysterytrey> Well, it rains alot, so thats a plus.
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11:57 < mysterytrey> And it's rarely get's above 15Celcius, and I just can't stand heat.
11:58 < mysterytrey> So it's a perfect place.
11:58 < mysterytrey> For me, anyway.
11:58 < Rain777> wow thats really cold
11:59 < Rain777> I guess one can get used to it though
11:59 < mysterytrey> Not really, if you can't stand heat.  It's windchill that's a killer though.
12:00 < Rain777> and what about the people?
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12:01 < russavia> dcoetzee, porn is illegal in iceland....however would you survive?
12:01 < Rain777> are they reserved or cheerful or how are they?
12:01 < mysterytrey> People help eachother out, hitchhiking is easy and remarkably safe.
12:02 < Dcoetzee> russavia: I'm pretty sure you just made that up :-P
12:02 < mysterytrey> nobody here really annoys others.
12:02 < russavia> you want to throw a {{fact}} on it?
12:02 < mysterytrey> Not too much anyway.
12:02 < Dcoetzee> {{fact}}
12:03 < The_Thing> So sour: http://torrentfreak.com/demonoid-domains-go-up-for-sale-120812/
12:03 < Shearonink> Rain777: I'm not sure about the visa situation, but there might be an issue with your getting work while you're in the US.
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12:03 < russavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_by_region#Iceland
12:03 < russavia> of course.....WP isn't a reliable source for jackshit
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12:04 < mysterytrey> Porn is taboo in iceland.  I don't think it's illegal, but then again I'm not a guy, so...
12:04 < russavia> which is funny given http://grapevine.is/News/ReadArticle/Icelandic-Kids-Watch-More-Porn
12:04 < Dcoetzee> russavia: Wow. It's true.
12:04 < Rain777> yeah the visa thing is making me doubt a little
12:05 < russavia> but porn being illegal could be a good thing.....could you imagine Bjork doing porn?
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12:05 < mysterytrey> Oh.  Porn is illegal.  What the hell?
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12:05 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: See http://www.althingi.is/lagas/nuna/1940019.html#G210
12:05 < Dcoetzee> I can't read Icelandic, but you can :-)
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12:05 < mysterytrey> Just use google translate.
12:06 < Dcoetzee> It's ridiculously broad.
12:06 < Dcoetzee> I have a feeling it's very poorly enforced :-)
12:06 < mysterytrey> I still have to for certain words.  &My grammer structure is fairly pitiful.
12:06 < russavia> mysterytrey -- if you speak Icelandic, perhaps you could turn some of these redlinks into blue links? http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notandi:Russavia
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12:07 < mysterytrey> Eh.  I'm not fluent.  I speak enough, though.
12:08 < Rain777> those languages look difficult...
12:08 < Dcoetzee> The weird thing is that Icelandic law on pornography is stricter than in the US, but Icelandic law on child pornography has far less severe punishments than in the US.
12:09 < mysterytrey> Actually, something I should do, is get that person who doesn't have a job but is rich and donates to good will all the time to edit wikipedia.
12:09 < Rain777> lol
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12:14 < mysterytrey> So hows argentina.
12:14 < mysterytrey> ?
12:14 < russavia> argentina?
12:14 < russavia> argentina is white!
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12:16 < russavia> http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/134/840/ArgentinaIsWhite.jpg
12:16 < Dcoetzee> There is an Internet meme I'm missing here
12:16 < russavia> http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/134/837/ArgentinaAlbinos.jpg
12:17 < Rain777> sorry I was having some milkshake...
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12:17 < russavia> http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/150/643/ArgentinaLatino.png
12:17 < Dcoetzee> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/argentina-is-white
12:17 < russavia> dcoetzee, argentina is whiter than england!
12:18 < russavia> or norway! or sweden! or even iceland!
12:19 < BlastHardcheese> I thought they were silver
12:19 < Dcoetzee> russavia: You evidently know a bit more about 4chan trolls than I do :-P
12:19 < russavia> which is funny dcoetzee, given i don't frequent such sites ;)
12:19 < Rain777> argentina is very dangerous...
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12:19 < russavia> but it's true, it's an easy way to troll argentinians -- just say that they aren't white :)
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12:20 < Rain777> nowadays not even tourists come here anymore
12:20 < russavia> and no, i won't be writing [[Argentina is white]] in future
12:21 < Isarra> Are strangers strange?
12:21 < russavia> hey rain777, you are argentinian?
12:21 < Dcoetzee> Isarra: No, but they are *stranger*
12:21 < Rain777> yeah from buenos aires
12:21 < russavia> i just uploaded a shitload of photos of argentinian air force -- http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Aircraft_of_the_air_force_of_Argentina
12:22 < russavia> and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:FMA_IA_58_Pucar%C3%A1 and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:FMA_IA_63_Pampa
12:22 < Rain777> I have a cousin in the air force but I dont talk to him very much
12:23 < mysterytrey> Is he notable?
12:23 < russavia> more importantly mystertrey, is he white?
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12:24 < Rain777> I dont really know I hardly ever see him
12:24 < Rain777> hes always at some base somewhere
12:24 < mysterytrey> russavia: Are you sure you don't do 4chan?
12:24 < russavia> absolutely sure ;)
12:25 < russavia> i do wikipedia instead
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12:25 < russavia> *"do"
12:25 < mysterytrey> Not both?
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12:25 < Isarra> Snrk.
12:25 < mysterytrey> Cause I'm not sure.
12:25 < russavia> nah it's more fun trolling wikipedia
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12:28  * SigmaWP waves at PeterSymonds 
12:28 < PeterSymonds> Hey Sigma.
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12:30 < mysterytrey> Keegan_: Is your connection crappy?
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12:34  * Peter-C licks SigmaWP
12:34  * ty pours salt onto the now wet SigmaWP 
12:34 < Peter-C> PeterSymonds - get the new ISP yet?
12:34 < PeterSymonds> Well yes, but I'm not actually at home at the moment. ^_^
12:35 < Mdann52> Look, stop attacking SigmaWP everyone
12:35 < Peter-C> Where are you :o
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12:35 < PeterSymonds> Elsewhere.
12:35 < Dcoetzee> Mdann52: We were technically only applying a coating of spices to him.
12:36 < Mdann52> :)
12:36 < Dcoetzee> Which makes him more delicious. :-)
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12:36 < Fluffernutter> Hey, didn't I tell you kids yesterday, no eating the regulars!
12:36 < Peter-C> MI6?
12:38 < Frood> anybody know where I can get an inexpensive laptop, used is okay?
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12:38 < Frood> or trade my tablet for one
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12:40  * Mdann52 eats Peter-C
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12:40  * Peter-C eats Fae
12:40 < Peter-C> nom nom nomn nom
12:40 < Peter-C> Hello :3
12:41 < mysterytrey> With all this eating, you made me hungry. :(
12:42  * mysterytrey eats MJ94.
12:42 < MJ94> HEY
12:42  * Mdann52 eats the whole channel
12:42 < MJ94> teeth off the goods,
12:42 < MJ94> Mdann52: fatty
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12:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> gods dont have teeth
12:44  * Fluffernutter read that as "girls don't have teeth" and I was all o_O
12:45 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: They do if they're gods incarnate
12:45 < mysterytrey> At least nobody has said "eats out" yet.
12:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter well
12:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> girls have fangs, you DONT want to be bitten by a girl
12:45 < Mdann52> :)
12:45 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Speak for yourself
12:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Oh waiut
12:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> that was vampires
12:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I confuse the two :p
12:46 < Fluffernutter> I hear girls have poison in their fangs, too
12:46 < Mdann52> Is there a difference?
12:46  * ToAruShiroiNeko thinks girl fans are like swiss army knives
12:46 < Dcoetzee> Mdann52: Girls are far more dangerous
12:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> multi functional
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12:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> there are vampire slayers but no girl slayers, no one dares :p
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12:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they say girls come from venus if so they can outstand blazing tempratures and pressure
12:47 < Dcoetzee> Ha
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12:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> even lightning cannot strike Venus surface
12:48  * ToAruShiroiNeko hides in fear :p
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12:48 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Actually recent evidence shows lightning exists on Venus and is pretty similar to Earth lightning.
12:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee it doesnt reach the ground though
12:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> stays in the atmosphere due to the immensely thick atmosphere
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12:49 < Dcoetzee> Ah so it's like cloud to cloud lightning on Earth?
12:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes
12:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> there are loads of cloud to cloud
12:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> with currents that would dwarf anything on earth
12:50 < SigmaWP> It does not rain on Venus
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12:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but it isnt strong enough to reach the ground
12:50 < SigmaWP> Because the rain vaporises before reaching the ground :P
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12:50 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: How does it compare to Jupiter lightning?
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12:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it rains sulfur on venus
12:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee I dont know but gas giants are in a leauge of their own
12:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> cant compare terresial planets with them
12:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> jupiters magnetic field reaches earth so anything electrical there will be massive
12:52 < BlastHardcheese> dat gas
12:53 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: I still think it's crazy that Jupiter has a storm that is 2-3 times the size of our entire planet that has been raging for hundreds of years with winds of over 430 kph.
12:53 < Dcoetzee> ...I don't think I'd want to live there.
12:53 < ToAruShiroiNeko> actually it is not so bad
12:53 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the eye of the storm is always calm :)
12:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee with jupiter the surface effect on the clouds/storms are thought to be the source of the storms
12:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its a tornado that reaches the core probably
12:54 < mysterytrey> Have any of you ever been on venus?
12:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mysterytrey no but soviets have
12:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> for a few minutes
12:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> then their craft melted down
12:54 < mysterytrey> And they died?
12:54 < Dcoetzee> :-S They had a craft on the surface, really?
12:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes
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12:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the only successful landing on venus
12:55 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Humans have never been anywhere near Venus, or even beyond the moon, as far as I know.
12:55 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Once you land on Venus or Mars, you just don't have the thrust to escape again.
12:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Venera
12:56 < Dcoetzee> I have met some people though who say they would die to be the first person on Mars. Not me. :-)
12:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee thats not really true, you just have to bring more fuel with you
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12:56 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Well yeah but that doubles your payload and massively increases cost...
12:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> The main problem with other planet visits is the time
12:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee this is true
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12:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its more than double btw
12:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> since it makes landing twice as difficult
12:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you could send the fuel in advance of course
12:57 < Dcoetzee> More to the point, if taking off on Earth surrounded by hundreds of employees and ground built equipment is hard, imagine taking off in a hostile environment with only remote assistance.
12:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> in fact any planet visit will have a boat load of stuff sent in advance
12:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee well... Gives a new meaning to... Remote desktop
12:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it takes about a year to get to mars and back
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12:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> not because of the distance but because earth year and mars year is different
12:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I want to stab peer
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12:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll?
12:59 < mysterytrey> Dcoetzee: What ToAruShiroiNeko said a second ago:
12:59 < mysterytrey> 15:58 <ToAruShiroiNeko> it takes about a year to get to mars and back
12:59 < mysterytrey> 15:58 <ToAruShiroiNeko> not because of the distance but because earth year and mars year is different
12:59 < mysterytrey> 15:58 <ToAruShiroiNeko> I want to stab peer
12:59 < Dcoetzee> Woops pulled my network cable by mistake. It' missing a tab so it slips sometimes.
13:00 < Dcoetzee> Do you think we'll ever terraform Mars? It seems like a really big investment...
13:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> teraforming mars isnt so difficult provided we find a way to restore the magnetic field
13:00 < Rain777> I think Ill go to Mars and start my own bussiness selling cheese burgers....
13:00 < SigmaWP> Capitalists are willing to do anything as long as there are enough workers to foot the bill
13:00 < Rain777> I sure will be ahead of the market...
13:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> with mars thats the problem, there is no magnetic field
13:00 < Dcoetzee> Rain777: I would so buy a cheeseburger on Mars just to say I did that
13:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> even if you restore the atmosphere it will leak away
13:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> also any electronics will be fried on a well aimed solar storm
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13:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> venus is a better candidate in that sense for terraforming
13:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> all you need to do is cool it down
13:02 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: I don't see how you can cool it down without thinning its atmosphere so much that it loses protection from cosmic radiation...
13:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> venus suffers from rotating in the wrong direction though
13:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee just send in a whitewestinghouse fridge :p
13:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> endothermic reactions probably
13:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> we have the technology to do it
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13:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> consider airconditioning units
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13:03 < Rain777> Im looking for a partner on a new bussiness
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13:04 < Rain777> I provide the burgers and all you have to do is find a way of getting me to Mars....
13:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but with mars you need to ship an atmospehere in as well as hardware and its energy source to provide magnetic shielding
13:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Curiosity has an oven
13:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you dont need much to heat the burgers
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13:06 < Rain777> The thing is I dont know who will buy them except maybe that little worms they found once...
13:06 < Dcoetzee> Rain777: Ship them back to Earth.
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13:06 < Dcoetzee> Rich people will buy them as "the only burgers made on Mars"!
13:06 < Rain777> yeah that seems like a good idea...
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13:07 < Rain777> I can make them in my backyard and label them "made on mars"
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13:07 < SigmaWP> Ipswich!
13:07 < Dcoetzee> I once talked to someone who said that if they could be the first person on the surface of Mars they wouldn't mind dying there shortly afterwards. I don't think that would be for me. :-P
13:08 < Rain777> yeah thats not a cool vacation
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13:09 < Ipswich> Andorin: o.O
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13:09 < Andorin> Ipswich: 0.o
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13:15 < mysterytrey> Who's antispammeta?
13:15 < mysterytrey> nevermind
13:16 < fn-troll> mysterytrey: my bot
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13:16 < TBloemink> And it's taking over the world now, it'll be back in a while.
13:16 < mysterytrey> Who... are you?
13:16 < PeterSymonds> Why, he's fn-troll of course.
13:16 < TBloemink> :P
13:16 < fn-troll> mysterytrey: uhm. I've been on this network for ~6 years, under the nicks "AfterDeath", "Athanasius", and this one
13:17 < OlEnglish> he's a spy!
13:17 < mysterytrey> Why is your server freenode/weird-exception/network-troll ?
13:18 < mysterytrey> And why is your nick fn-troll ?
13:18 < PeterSymonds> He's a freenode weird exception network troll?
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13:18 < TBloemink> I want one of those too.
13:18 < TBloemink> Who can I bribe for wikimedia/troll/tbloemink ?
13:19 < fn-troll> mysterytrey: My hostmask is like that because I'm awesome
13:19 < fn-troll> and my nick is fn-troll because I'm freenode's favorite troll.
13:19 < mysterytrey> Hmmm...  Cool.
13:19  * TBloemink searches
13:20 < OlEnglish> who's watching the closing ceremonies?
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13:20 < Rain777> I am
13:20 < fn-troll> anyways, ASM is down because I'm tarballing its home directory to move to a new server
13:20 < Rain777> thats why Im not talking much
13:20 < OlEnglish> nice!
13:20 < mysterytrey> Try #freenode.  Maybe if you bother them they will change it from wikimedia/tbloemink to that.
13:20 < TBloemink> Probably I need to contact a wikimedia group contact
13:20  * TBloemink eyes PeterSymonds 
13:21 < PeterSymonds> Hmmmm!
13:21 < OlEnglish> the brits really know how to put on a show
13:21 < PeterSymonds> If I can't have a wikimedia/troll/* host, neither can you.
13:21 < OlEnglish> the opening ceremonies were amazing too
13:21 < Ipswich> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Republic_of_Macedonia
13:22 < Ipswich> It got on the main page for On This Day every year since 2005
13:22 < TBloemink> Hmmm
13:22 < TBloemink> We should introduce that
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13:24 < fn-troll> PeterSymonds: I bet you could
13:24 < Dcoetzee> I wonder sometimes, when an article has 8 refs for a single sentence, is that getting excessive?
13:25 < fn-troll> PeterSymonds: Seeing as you're a GC for wikimedia, you /could/ get wikimedia/troll/PeterSymonds
13:25 < Dcoetzee> "On August 10, 2012, it was announced that presumptive Republican Presidential nominee Mitt Romney would be announcing his choice for Vice Presidential running-mate in Norfolk, Virginia, with most news sources reporting that Ryan would be his running-mate.[79][1][80][81][82][83][84][85]"
13:25 < PeterSymonds> I /technically/ could, but so far I've resisted.
13:25 < fn-troll> DO IT DO IT NOW
13:25 < PeterSymonds> Hmm.
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13:25 < PeterSymonds> Well, maybe. ^_^
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13:26 < TBloemink> Hmm
13:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landings_on_other_planets_and_bodies
13:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I formatted the page a little
13:26 < TBloemink> wikimedia/lazy/Barras maybe :P
13:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> enjoy :3
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13:26 < TBloemink> OH SNAP I pinged it
13:26 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Nice :-)
13:26 < TBloemink> Eh, him
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13:27 < EdSaperia> hello, may amuse: http://www.facebook.com/lolwikipedia
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13:27 < Barras> ???
13:28 < Dcoetzee> EdSaperia: You should see: http://citationneeded.tumblr.com/
13:29 < Barras> TBloemink: We can also get your cloak changed... to something funny :-P
13:29 < TBloemink> wikimedia/traitor/tbloemink ?
13:29 < PeterSymonds> wikimedia/loldutch/tbloemink perhaps.
13:29 < TBloemink> Awesome
13:29 < TBloemink> Even better than /troll/
13:30 < PeterSymonds> Yes.
13:30 < Rain777> I think Ill have a nap
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13:30 < Rain777> Ill be back in a while
13:30 < Rain777> cheers
13:30 < Barras> troll would fit to Peter very well, I shoud get this changed.
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13:31 < PeterSymonds> We could have a cloak-war.
13:31 < PeterSymonds> One sure way for freenode to get rid of us.
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13:31 < mysterytrey> Yes.
13:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> have this cloak: wikimedia/0
13:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> divided by zero cloak :D
13:32 < mysterytrey> PeterSymonds: Go yell at everyone in #freenode to change your cloak.
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13:37 < TBloemink> Barras, then one /loldutch/ for me :p
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13:39 < Barras> TBloemink: Nah, I would have even better ideas
13:39 < TBloemink> Such as?
13:39 < PeterSymonds> Wait and see.
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13:39 < Barras> ^
13:39 < TBloemink> Heh.
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13:50 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Whoa I hadn't heard we had a soft landing on Titan.
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14:07 < Fluffernutter> hey BarkingFish, you around? Could use a translation of a couple sentences into Icelandic if you have a moment.
14:07 < foks> BarkingFish speaks Icelandic?
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14:07 < Fluffernutter> i believe so
14:07 < Fluffernutter> or i might be crazy
14:07 < Guest11676> You wish you had this one, right? :-P
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14:15 < BarkingFish> Fluffernutter, sorry about that, I was dealing with someone who just came to see me :)  Sure, point me where it is and I'll take a look
14:16 < Fluffernutter> http://ask.metafilter.com/222079/If-you-speak-Icelandic-please-read -  they need "Our son has a very serious peanut allergy. Will you please make sure that no peanuts (including peanut oil or other ingredients) are in his food?" in Icelandic, in case they run into anyone who doesn't understand it in english
14:16 < BarkingFish> k
14:17 < russavia> barkingfish, almost everyone in iceland knows english don't they?
14:17 < russavia> prob a good side effect of having nato bases there since god knows when
14:18 < BarkingFish> yeah, this is what the other commenters have said on there - english is very widely spoken, not just in Reykjavík but across 99% of Iceland
14:18 < Frood> Can't http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Say_Never_%28TV_Series%29 be db-hoax ?
14:18 < Frood> no refs, nothing on Google about it (5 page in so far)
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14:19 < mysterytrey> 5 pages in?  That's effort.
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14:20 < russavia> isn't it funny that only westerners have peanut allergies
14:20 < russavia> when will we learn
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14:22 < mysterytrey> I'm gonna give a brownie to frood.
14:23 < Fluffernutter> are there peanuts in the brownie?
14:23 < Pharos> god thing i'm on the east coast then
14:23 < Pharos> *good
14:23 < mysterytrey> No.  No nuts.
14:23 < mysterytrey> No peanut oil either.
14:23 < Frood> Wikipedia page User talk:Frood has been changed by Mysterytrey
14:23 < Qcoder02> Fluffernutter:  Depends on the recipe
14:23 < mysterytrey> Yup.
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14:24 < mysterytrey> And that message will stay there FOREVER because Fluffernutter blocked mizcabot or whatever.
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14:24 < Fluffernutter> the one i blocked isn;t the archiverbot for user talks
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14:25 < mysterytrey> Oh.
14:25 < Qcoder02> Evening BarkingFish
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14:25 < BarkingFish> hi Q
14:25  * Qcoder02 smiles
14:25  * Qcoder02 waves a tentacle ;)
14:25 < Frood> keep your pants on pls
14:25 < mysterytrey> Well I have that strikethrough blocked people gadget and at the top of the page it said it was being archived by mizsabot.
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14:26 < Qcoder02> Frood?
14:26 < Frood> oh
14:26 < Qcoder02> Was that for me?
14:26 < Frood> tentacle
14:26 < Frood> okay
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14:26 < Qcoder02> What did you read it as?
14:27 < Frood> pants, and tentacle
14:27 < Frood> you should be able to figure it out
14:27 < Qcoder02> No I can't?
14:27 < Frood> what is in your pants
14:27 < Frood> that looks like "tentacle"
14:27 < Isarra> Tentacle?
14:27 < Frood> which people generally don't like to see.
14:27 < Fluffernutter> wtf this conversation
14:27 < TBloemink> Behave, please
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14:27 < Qcoder02> Frood: I meant tenatcle as in limb
14:27 < TBloemink> Omg, welcome to IRC
14:28 < Isarra> I think they're discussing penises, which unfortunately aren't nearly as cool as tentacles.
14:28 < Qcoder02> Foord : Please see a shrink about your  fixation
14:28 < Qcoder02> ;)
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14:29 < mysterytrey> Perhaps we need to change the topic to say "views expressed on this channel does not represent wikipedia".
14:29 < Qcoder02> Frood:  So a Shrink shows a guy a picture of house - ' Girls' , a car 'Girls'...  A plate of food - 'Girls'... You are fixated with girls says the shrink... Well you have the pictures Doc...!'
14:29 < Pharos> i have tentacles in my pants, but this is entirely unrelated to any sexual apparatus
14:29 < Frood> k
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14:29 < Qcoder02> Honestly I wonder if some Wikipedians are sane...
14:30 < Pharos> i also have tentacles under my hat
14:30 < Isarra> Pharos is one of those aliens from that town in one of those Stephen King stories.
14:30 < BarkingFish> Fluffernutter, how do I post this on their board? I don't have an account with them. Do you?
14:30 < Qcoder02> Isarra: I was thinking something Lovecraftian ;)
14:30 < Pharos> i was thinking more Lovecraftian, but that could work too
14:30 < BarkingFish> "Sonur okkar er mjög ofnæmi fyrir hnetum. Viltu vinsamlegast vera viss um að enginn hnetum (þar á meðal hneta olíu og önnur efni) eru í einhverjum af mat hans?"
14:30 < Isarra> Well, we could settle this.
14:31 < Isarra> Pharos: Are you semi-transparent?
14:31 < Fluffernutter> BarkingFish, I will pass it on. Thanks!
14:31 < Qcoder02> Isarra: Wikipedia requires FULL transparency ;)
14:31 < BarkingFish> The literal translation if they want it, Fluffernutter - is "Our son is highly allergic to peanuts. Would you please be sure that no peanuts (including peanut oil and other materials) are in any of his meals?"
14:31 < Pharos> more translucent than anything
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14:32 < Isarra> Qcoder02: That's just a myth.
14:32 < Pharos> i transmit light, but not information
14:32 < Qcoder02> How many news page patrollers does it take to change a lightbulb?  They don't change bulbs they just leave a {{dim bulb}} tag :(
14:33 < PeterSymonds> Oh dear.
14:33 < Isarra> You're awful.
14:33  * BarkingFish facepalms
14:33 < Gfoley4> hah
14:33 < Qcoder02> If Wikipedia made cars...  You'd have to check after a service to make sure the transmission was still there ;)
14:33 < mysterytrey> Huh?
14:33  * Fluffernutter gives BarkingFish cookies
14:33 < Isarra> And to make sure there weren't duplicate parts, too.
14:34 < Qcoder02> Isarra :  ROFL
14:34 < Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: I think you trust your mechanics more than I do ;-)
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14:34  * BarkingFish takes cookies and noms down
14:34 < Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  ??
14:34 < BarkingFish> Fluffernutter, grab this one please ^^^ we had bots in when they joined the other night from there... :)
14:35 < mysterytrey> Good no-context quote "I think you trust your mechanics more than I do ;-)"
14:35 < Qcoder02> There's a context
14:35  * Qcoder02 notes that apparently in Germany there are now 'specialist' mechanics for hybrids...
14:36 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Here's a nice no-context quote from an episode of Lassie I was subtitling this morning: "Paul, wait! Come back here! Can I have my potato, please? I can't tell whether you're the father or the son."
14:37 < mysterytrey> You subtitle?
14:37 < Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  You do subtiltes?
14:37 < Qcoder02> For what?
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14:37 < Pharos> for Lassie!
14:37 < Dcoetzee> Yeah Netflix has a new volunteer service they're recruiting for at Universal Subtitles called Amara.
14:37 < Dcoetzee> Subtitling for Hard of hearing and deaf viewers.
14:38 < Qcoder02> Is this subtitlign English or all languages?
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14:38 < Dcoetzee> Just English at the moment, although Universal Subtitles in general does solicit subtitles in all languages.
14:39 < Qcoder02> If IIRC  there has been unoffical closed captioning of Japanese animation going on for years
14:39 < mysterytrey> I hate captions.  It seems they're always off-timed.  Dcoetzee, promise us one thing, you'll have captions at least /decently/ timed.
14:39 < Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: Yup and manga
14:39 < Qcoder02> Albiet this is Japanese-> English captioning  as opposed to  deaf captioning
14:39 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: I spent like 2 hours getting the timing within 0.5 sec :-P
14:39 < Dcoetzee> I'm very perfectionist about my caption timing...
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14:39 < mysterytrey> I shall give you a brownie for that.
14:40 < BarkingFish> Dcoetzee, i finally found another one :)   I caption too, although mine is not language to language, mine is CC for the hearing impaired
14:40 < Dcoetzee> BarkingFish: Me too :-)
14:40 < Dcoetzee> My French is not good enough to write it or listen to it very well so I can only really do English.
14:40 < Dcoetzee> Fun fact: if you upload subtitles to a YouTube video, YouTube will offer to automatically translate captions on the fly for you.
14:41 < BarkingFish> How do you caption? Burned in or switchable?
14:41 < Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  Perhaps you should mention this Netflix thing to Wiktionary people... plenty of linguists on Wiktionary :)
14:41 < Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  The translations are sometimes poor
14:41 < Qcoder02> BTW I always giigle at machine translation of Japanese websites...
14:42 < Qcoder02> They end up like Yoda sounding ?
14:42 < Dcoetzee> BarkingFish: Oh I just volunteer sometimes at Universal Subtitles, they mostly handle the overlaying and switching for me. I also upload their .srt files to my own YouTube videos.
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14:42 < Dcoetzee> BarkingFish: This morning I subtitled an episode of _Lassie_ as part of the Netflix pilot volunteer captioning project Amara.
14:43 < Qcoder02> You should ask fan groups...
14:43 < Qcoder02> I am sure there are people that know sci-fi scripts better than the writers ;)
14:43 < Dcoetzee> They've licensed a bunch of stuff that needs captions and apparently are reaching out to volunteers to help with the labour.
14:43 < BarkingFish> Ah.  I do mine through a prog on Kubuntu called Subtitle Composer,  it's actually pretty decent.
14:43 < Dcoetzee> I like Universal Subtitles because they handle the publication and search functionality for me.
14:44 < BarkingFish> Do you have a link for that, Dcoetzee?  I'd like to give a hand on there since I have shit to do for the next fortnight :)
14:44 < Dcoetzee> Their UI is fairly nice although it could be better.
14:44 < Dcoetzee> http://www.universalsubtitles.org/ :-)
14:44 < Dcoetzee> Is pretty neat, you just paste in a URL from any video sharing service.
14:44 < BarkingFish> Is that where netflix are asking too?
14:44 < Dcoetzee> Yeah but Netflix isn't taking more volunteers right now.
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14:44 < BarkingFish> oh ok.
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14:45 < Dcoetzee> They're working the kinks out of the system right now.
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14:45 < Dcoetzee> Also it's kind of annoying because it plays from their video player and buffers every time I rewind. :-P
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14:46  * Qcoder02 wonders if there is closed captioned prono...
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14:46 < Dcoetzee> I could caption sounds of pleasure, but it might get repetitive :-P
14:46 < Qcoder02> And before you laugh, deaf people have a sex life...
14:47 < Dcoetzee> I think it would work best with BDSM
14:47 < Dcoetzee> Because doms actually, you know, talk during sex.
14:47 < mysterytrey> ...
14:47 < Qcoder02> BDSM isn't porn... It's arthouse Cinema... ;)
14:47 < Dcoetzee> At least the ones who are fond of humiliation
14:47 < Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: :-P
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14:49 < Qcoder02> Sorry
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14:49  * Dragonfly6-7 vomtis on Qcoder02
14:50 < Qcoder02> but if content is to be subtitled I don't see why you should not include  'legal' pornos...
14:50 < Prodego> having fun?
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14:50 < Qcoder02> Dcoetzee mentioned Netflix was  running a subtiles project...
14:50 < Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: Legal pornos? Like courtroom porn?
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14:51 < Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  I mean as in pornos that are able to be sold
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14:51 < Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: ...most pornos can be sold, in the US...
14:51 < Pharos> i think courtroom porno is still legal in this state
14:51 < Dcoetzee> Obscenity law is very rarely applied.
14:51 < Qcoder02> XD
14:51 < Qcoder02> :(
14:52 < Pharos> we have a very progresive judiciary on that point
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14:52 < Qcoder02> Dcoetzee: HMm
14:52 < Qcoder02> *Hmm
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14:53 < Dragonfly6-7> Scalia fucks the American people
14:53 < Qcoder02> Isn't there at least one member of the US  Justice system into BDSM?#
14:53 < Dcoetzee> I still believe obscenity law is unconstitutional.
14:54 < Dcoetzee> I hope one day it'll go from "rarely applied" to "struck down". But not likely any time soon. :-P
14:54 < Qcoder02> And I don't mean just normal BDSM, I mean really hardcore torture stuff...
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14:54 < Qcoder02> .. involving restraints a towel and a jug of water...
14:54 < Qcoder02> XD
14:55 < mysterytrey> ...
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14:55 < Qcoder02> As Ben Elton would say ' Little bit of Politics' ;)
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14:56 < mysterytrey> Dcoetzee: Try and see if netflex will give you pron to subtitle.  jk
14:57 < Pharos> I'm not ashamed of my horns!
14:57 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: I don't think Netflix streams porn sadly :-P
14:57 < mysterytrey> Wahh?
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14:57 < mysterytrey> That is an outrage.
14:57 < Dcoetzee> They do have several porn related documentaries.
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14:57 < Dcoetzee> Wtf
14:57  * mysterytrey bandages netflex article.
14:58 < mysterytrey> **and vandalizes
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14:58 < Dcoetzee> I just searched Netflix for "porn" and the #8 result is My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic.
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14:58 < JamesonLTai> that's pretty awesome
14:58 < russavia> LOL
14:58 < mysterytrey> You should tell 4chan.
14:59 < russavia> go tell t_kns in wp-ru
14:59 < Dcoetzee> I'm guessing it's based somehow on words in reader reviews. :-P
14:59 < mysterytrey> I believe they have a my little pony board there.
14:59 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: I think they were exiled from 4chan and forced to create their own board.
14:59 < Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  Erm Perhaps you should let Netflix know that :(
14:59 < mysterytrey> Cool.
15:00 < russavia> don't let them know that
15:00 < Dcoetzee> I'm a brony myself so I was surprised :-P
15:00  * Prodego frowns
15:00 < Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  You do know what 'pony play' is ?
15:01 < Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: I'm going to assume it's some kind of sex play involving or related to or emulating ponies and/or MLP?
15:01 < Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  Yeah
15:01 < mysterytrey> mlp?
15:01 < Qcoder02> It's a subset of  BDSM...
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15:01 < Qcoder02> I think
15:01 < Dcoetzee> Is it the one where the sub is forced to let the dom ride on their back?
15:01 < Qcoder02> I don't know what MLP means
15:01 < russavia> nothing wrong with pony play
15:01 < Pharos> i thought that was Men Loving Ponies
15:01 < mysterytrey> isn't my little pony a childs show.
15:02 < Qcoder02> mysterytrey:  Yeah
15:02 < Qcoder02> Which is why I am suprised ...
15:02 < mysterytrey> I assumed a second ago it stood for My Little Pony.
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15:02 < russavia> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcGOEMN92GE  I'd imagine dcoetzee would like "llama play" more
15:02 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Yes but the new series has a very large older male demographic.
15:02 < Qcoder02> but if you have certain terms together...
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15:02 < Dcoetzee> Especially on the Internet. Possibly outnumbering its intended demographic.
15:02 < mysterytrey> So, it's become, "pedophiliac", so to say.
15:02 < mysterytrey> ???
15:03 < Qcoder02> Wikipedia has an article on 'pony play;'
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15:03 < russavia> no more than pedobear
15:03 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Ummmmm, liking a TV show aimed at children does not involve sexually abusing children or finding them sexually attractive, no.
15:03 < Qcoder02> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_roleplay#BDSM_Pony_Play
15:03 < TBloemink> Welcome to IRC.
15:03 < Qcoder02> TBloemink:  This is a Wikipedia channel
15:04 < russavia> pedobear, the world's most understood bear :(
15:04 < Qcoder02> Issue of public concern get raised here
15:04 < Qcoder02> like a kids show showing up in a search for 'porn'
15:04 < russavia> *most misunderstood
15:04 < Qcoder02> Freudian slip?
15:05 < russavia> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151177670746062&set=a.399247356061.197061.11471221061&type=1  LOL
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15:05 < russavia> 2nd comment -- what a pearler
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15:10 < BarkingFish> wtf?  Is this a proper article, or someone simply copying some sort of law into the site? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Operational_Guidelines_for_the_Implementation_of_the_World_Heritage_Convention&redirect=no&rcid=522344290
15:10 < russavia> is it more suited to wikisource?
15:11 < BarkingFish> Ihnfi.
15:11 < Dragonfly6-7> yeah, Wikisource
15:11 < Dragonfly6-7> contact the user
15:11 < BarkingFish> ok
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15:13 < Qcoder02> Question: Are Episode Transcripts  OK for Wikisoruce?
15:13 < Dragonfly6-7> No
15:13 < Qcoder02> According to some people a load of Dragnet scripts are falling into the Public Domain
15:13 < Dragonfly6-7> unless they're old enough to be PD....
15:13 < Dragonfly6-7> aha
15:14 < Dragonfly6-7> if it's confirmed, then sure.
15:14 < Qcoder02> I'm never sure with Radio stuff...
15:14 < Qcoder02> Dragnet is NBC so...
15:15 < Pharos> i <3 radip
15:15 < BarkingFish> ok, I left the user a note asking them to put it on Wikisource.  What do we do with the local article, Dragonfly6-7?
15:16 < Dragonfly6-7> tag as speedy - not an article.
15:17 < BarkingFish> What code? I don't see that in Twinkle :)
15:17 < Dragonfly6-7> do you know how to type the words "not an article" ?
15:18 < BarkingFish> yeah, I can do it as a custom rationale - but then it will ask me for a valid CSD criteria :D
15:21 < BarkingFish> Dragonfly6-7, it would be a help if you weren't sarcastic.  I am well aware how to type, and how to spell, but I use twinkle - and if something don't come up in there, I prefer to get help.  Asking me if I know how to type, is not help :)
15:21 < BarkingFish> "This article may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion because not an article. For valid criteria, see CSD. "
15:21 < russavia> yeah dragonfly6-7 he obviously knows how to type
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15:21 < russavia> he just spent a minute typing that retort out
15:21 < BarkingFish> ..|..
15:21 < russavia> and not a single spelling error...nice one barkingfish ;)
15:22 < russavia> so in other, and more succinct, words
15:22 < russavia> back off bitch!
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15:23 < LikeLakers2> haha russavia
15:24 < mysterytrey> Gosh, all of you just want to attack dragonfly, dontcha now?
15:24 < LikeLakers2> yep
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15:24 < Pharos> Americans: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_United_States_Federation#Wikimedia_United_States_Federation.2C_Inc
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15:30 < Jarry1250> Incidentally, last time I checked, "not an article" is not a CSD criteria when a valid transwiki is possible; but anyhow, it was a copyvio (I think)
15:30 < Jarry1250> So I just deleted it for that.
15:31 < Jarry1250> :P
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15:33  * Fluffernutter yawns
15:36 < mysterytrey> Does Fluffernutter like yawning?
15:36  * Isarra paints Fluffernutter blue.
15:36  * Fluffernutter smurfs
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15:38 < Pharos> we need more blue wikipedians
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15:41 < The_Thing> Wow, SC2's promotion system seems... odd
15:42 < The_Thing> I was playing a 4v4, where we were all Zergs and all rushed and stuff, broke even, almost lost when the terran made mass hellions only to have our asses saved by a teammate who made mutas...
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15:43 < mysterytrey> That's nice.
15:43 < The_Thing> Now, I hadn't even been laddering for several weeks now, so my rank is pretty mediocre... rank 30-ish platinum... We just barely won that game. And I get promoted to Diamond. In 1 game. From rank 30-ish plat. After several weeks of not even laddering in the first place.
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15:44 < DJMalik> Hi Antonorsi
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15:48 < mysterytrey> hello there ttt.  How are you today?
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15:50 < BarkingFish> anyone up for shutting an afd? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/VP530
15:50 < DJMalik> Laura_Fiorucci: Tomare tu respuesta como no ¿verdad?
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15:57 < IRWolfie-> I managed 48 hours without editing :)
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15:58 < Antonorsi> DJMalik: hello
15:58 < The_Thing> http://i50.tinypic.com/adcged.png
15:59 < DJMalik> Antonorsi: que tal
15:59 < BarkingFish> IRWolfie-, i've seen you quite a bit in here, who are you onwiki? :)
16:00 < BarkingFish> just wondered since you don't cloak or anything :D
16:01 < Wizardman> I almost regret getting started on copyright work. I was blissfully ignorant of how bad it was. Now it's an uphill battle.
16:02 < Wizardman> just ventin, dont mind me..
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16:02 < Jarry1250> Wizardman: Never visit certain wikis
16:02  * Fluffernutter knows the feeling, Wizardman
16:02 < Jarry1250> (I won't say which)
16:02 < GorillaWarfare> Copyright in general is frustrating :/
16:02  * Fluffernutter stays away from articles related to India after a bad IEP copyvio experience last year
16:02 < BarkingFish> Wizardman, if you're pissed with it, and you're any good with a drawing prog, you can help me de-watermark pictures :)
16:02 < GorillaWarfare> Oh god, yeah...
16:02 < Wizardman> the cci i'm tacklng is in the india area, so.. there you go
16:03 < Wizardman> not iep but a different one
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16:03 < Frood> Fluffernutter: so many articles related to India are copyright violations
16:03 < Frood> or just awfully written
16:03 < Wizardman> IEP in hindsight was such a terrible idea..
16:03 < Frood> IEP?
16:03 < Fluffernutter> yep, Frood. Makes me feel horrible to generalize like that, but Indian society just doesn't seem to grok copyright
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16:03 < Wizardman> indian education program
16:03 < GorillaWarfare> Frood: India Education Program
16:04 < Frood> oh
16:04 < GorillaWarfare> Basically USEP, but in India
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16:04 < Frood> Fluffernutter: I feel bad too, but it's pretty true
16:04 < Wizardman> i should probably tackle that one too
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16:04 < Frood> at one point I tried to tackle some of them, but there were too many
16:04 < Wizardman> doing the banglapedia one, which thankfully are mostly just copypaste jobs that I can quickly remove from otherwise ok articles
16:06 < Wizardman> oh god. i have ten left on letter C and i think every single one is a copyvio
16:07 < BarkingFish> russavia, just saw this on reddit :)  "Jehovah's witnesses don't celebrate halloween. I guess they don't appreciate random people coming up and knocking on their door :P"
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16:10 < IRWolfie-> BarkingFish: I'm IRWolfie- on wiki :>
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16:10 < BarkingFish> thanks :)
16:11 < IRWolfie-> What's your username?
16:11 < IRWolfie-> aha I spelt it wrong, nvm
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16:12 < IRWolfie-> was just checking the interaction tool :)
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16:12 < IRWolfie-> turns out, not much
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16:12 < BarkingFish> yeah, I've seen you about, just couldn't recall your username. I don't think we've interacted a whole lot at all
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16:16 < nemilar> If I want to start working on an article, is it 'good practice' to build it in my sandbox first, or can I just start building the 'live' version?
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16:19 < BarkingFish> nemilar, do you know how to add proper references, and put things in the right place?  do you basically, understand how to build an article?
16:19 < nemilar> yeah I've done a little bit of editing in the past.  I probably won't be adding many (if any) citations to start with, I plan on working on the article over the course of the next few weeks.  I only have a stub right now
16:19 < TParis> Isnt there some statistical theory out there that says if I headdesk, there is a chance I can produce a FA?
16:20 < BarkingFish> what is your username on Wikipedia, nemilar?
16:20 < nemilar> The article is in the requested article list.  I've done a bit of research but no writing
16:20 < nemilar> BarkingFish nemilar
16:20 < BarkingFish> ok, one sec
16:20 < nemilar> I should most likely update my infoboxes.  They're all out of date :)
16:21 < BarkingFish> wow. It's been a while since you signed up :)
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16:22 < nemilar> haha yeah.  I'm not new.  I've just been away for a while
16:22 < BarkingFish> If you're fully conversant with our rules, procedures, policies and the like, I see no reason why you shouldn't make the article live, rather than in your sandbox
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16:23 < nemilar> I guess my concern is that someone may flag it for deletion while it's still in its newborn stages
16:25 < TParis> nemilar, use the {{underconstruction}} template
16:25 < TParis> or build it in your userspace first
16:25 < nemilar> oooh, didn't know about that template.  Thanks!
16:25 < BarkingFish> if you're working on it, and continuing to add stuff to it, try using that tag TParis just told you about, or put {{inuse}} at the top
16:25 < BarkingFish> people shouldn't touch it with either of those tags at the top
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16:30 < Wizardman> good lord so much laziness... doesn't help ive  done this about 6hours now
16:33 < Frood> oh, closing ceremonies
16:33 < Frood> they happened a while ago, didn't they?
16:33 < Frood> is NBC just showing them now?
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16:35 < nemilar> NBC is way behind, 6 hours I think
16:36 < Fluffernutter> they haven't even gotten to eht ceremony yet, Frood. They're going on about how super-duper awesome and unique all the athletes who won medals are
16:36 < mysterytrey> 6 hours is good for nbc.
16:37 < Dragonfly6-7> Nuclear Bacteriological Chemical
16:37 < Frood> Fluffernutter: :l
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16:40 < Lubaf> Does anybody here get the joke in calling a martial arts master "The Master of the Flying Electric Chair"?
16:43 < Fluffernutter> no
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16:45 < Tony_Sidaway> I don't know whether the Olympics closing ceremony will be broadcast that much outside the UK, but watching it felt a bit like having your face stuffed with wedding cake.
16:46 < Tony_Sidaway> Also if you were watching it and didn't know much about the British, you'd come away with the impression that we really love the 1960s!
16:46 < Dragonfly6-7> I was vaguely irked that they used Mary Poppins vs Voldemort
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16:48 < Tony_Sidaway> I thought the singer they chose for "We Will Rock You" did herself proud. It's hard to match up to Freddie's powerful, stadium-filling voice, but she was good.
16:48 < GorillaWarfare> Tony_Sidaway: That doesn't sound so bad
16:48 < GorillaWarfare> The wedding cake, that is
16:48 < Tony_Sidaway> GorillaWarfare: for 2 and a half hours!
16:49 < GorillaWarfare> Point taken.
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16:50 < Frood> abuse
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16:51 < GorillaWarfare> I think my finger decided to spontaneously become allergic to my ring...
16:51 < Demiurge1000> Tony_Sidaway: About the singer, wasn't she a murrkin anyway?
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16:51 < Tony_Sidaway> It does worry me a bit that most of the stars were from my generation. Very few were even under 30.
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16:52 < [ceradon]> \O/
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16:53 < Demiurge1000> Fluffernutter: Behave, please.
16:54 < Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: English apparently. She sounded English. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessie_J
16:54  * Fluffernutter is satan, or something. So they say.
16:54 < haggis> Fluffernutter: Seconded.
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16:54 < Fluffernutter> no kissing up, haggis
16:54  * haggis scurries off to his blarg.
16:55  * Peter-C licks Fluffernutter
16:55 < Peter-C> GorillaWarfare - guess wut :o
16:55 < GorillaWarfare> wut :o
16:56 < Peter-C> Apparently the college you go to is favored by my parents and it is high of their list of places they want me to attend
16:56 < Peter-C> :o
16:56 < GorillaWarfare> Do eeeeet
16:56 < haggis> Peter-C: are you an IB?
16:56 < Peter-C> No wai, it is in Red Sox territory
16:56 < Peter-C> D:
16:57 < GorillaWarfare> Interesting college requirements
16:57 < Peter-C> Fuck academincs, all about baseball
16:58 < Frood> Where does GorillaWarfare go to college?
16:58 < GorillaWarfare> Frood: Northeastern University
16:58 < Ebe123> Academics are important
16:58 < Frood> not as important as football
16:58 < Fluffernutter> for heaven's sake, when are they going to bother to show the damn ceremony
16:59 < Peter-C> Olympics?
16:59 < GorillaWarfare> Frood: That could be a problem; Northeastern's football team was cut a number of years ago
16:59 < haggis> Fluffernutter: I love how american networks didn't show it live
16:59 < haggis> just to make an extra buck
16:59 < Fluffernutter> not only didn't they show it live, haggis, but we're not exactly 1 hour AFTER they were supposed to be time-delay airing it. And still no ceremony.
16:59 < GorillaWarfare> Peter-C: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhl6o-pdN9I
17:00 < Peter-C> Cow.
17:00 < Peter-C> There’s a cow.
17:00 < Peter-C> Cow.
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17:00 < Frood> GorillaWarfare: it's also not in the midwest.
17:01 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Thank you for brownie :-)
17:01 < Peter-C> TACO BELL
17:01 < Peter-C> OMG SOLD
17:01 < GorillaWarfare> Frood: That's Northwestern
17:01 < mysterytrey> Yourwelcome.
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17:01 < Frood> mysterytrey: *you're
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17:02 < mysterytrey> Frood: What's an abuse protical?
17:02 < mysterytrey> Oops wrong channel.
17:02 < Tony_Sidaway> The Olympic closing ceremoney is great if you like ancient British rock groups like The Who, Queen and whatnot.
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17:02 < haggis> GorillaWarfare: I'm curious to know why Balls of Steel is in related videos :O
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17:02 < Peter-C> GorillaWarfare - you must get “Oh... this isn’t Northwestern” a lot
17:02 < Tony_Sidaway> Annie Lennox on the prow of a Viking longboat.
17:02 < Frood> Tony_Sidaway: OMG DON'T RUIN IT FOR THE AMERICANS!!!!!!
17:03 < GorillaWarfare> Peter-C: Because Northeasterners have b-b-b-balls of steel?
17:03 < Peter-C> Speaking of balls...
17:03 < TeeTylerToe> I like the who and queen a lot more than I like the spice girls
17:03 < Peter-C> I think I might just go to Bal So HArd Uni
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17:04 < szwcasf> hello wikipedians.
17:04 < Pharos> WLL banener is live to anons
17:04 < Pharos> long liive libraries!
17:04 < mysterytrey> Hello szwcasf
17:04 < Dcoetzee> Pharos: Yay!
17:05 < Pharos> :)
17:06 < szwcasf> Ironholds the jew around?
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17:06 < Pharos> no, only ironholds the gentile
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17:07 < haggis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=N3hSHUV4iXE
17:07 < haggis> LIKE A BAWS
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17:11 < Fluffernutter> there seems to be an abundance of soap
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17:12  * Soapy splashes himself all over the room
17:13 < BarkingFish> Fluffernutter, just remember not to bend down to pick any up :)   Oh wait... that's in prison, ain't it? :P
17:13 < Tony_Sidaway> I've been trying to watch the Olympic opening ceremony on iPlayer, but it's much heavier going than I expected. I can see that somewhere in there is a pretty clever script and an impressive amount of painstaking choreography. The overall effect is chaotic, though.
17:14 < mysterytrey> BarkingFish: ಠ_ಠ
17:14 < Tony_Sidaway> I have not, you understand, yet progressed to actually watching any of the sports.
17:14 < haggis> BarkingFish: I don't think you fully understand :O
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17:17 < mysterytrey> What is arch linux compared to a regular linux?
17:18 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Arch Linux is just one of many distributions of Linux.
17:18 < Dcoetzee> There is no "regular Linux".
17:19 < mysterytrey> So is it more difficult than the average? linux.
17:19 < mysterytrey> ?
17:20  * Peter-C beats Dcoetzee
17:20 < BarkingFish> mysterytrey, haggis, I understand perfectly, thank you.
17:21 < Tony_Sidaway> mysterytrey: Arch is good if you know what you're doing. It has some slightly unusual BSD-like aspects, and I've been very impressed by it.
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17:22 < Tony_Sidaway> I would still recommend Debian as the best all-round Linux distribution.
17:22 < mysterytrey> Thank for your opinion, Tony_Sidaway.
17:22 < Tony_Sidaway> I used to recommend Ubuntu but it's become rather silly lately.
17:22 < mysterytrey> I just saw someone's quit message as (Quit: I taught my grandmother how to use Arch Linux)
17:22 < mysterytrey> How has it became silly?
17:23 < BarkingFish> in what way, Tony_Sidaway - if stuff we do don't suit what our users want, it'd be nice if they said what was wrong.
17:23 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: For an objective recommendation, I would refer you to distrowatch.com. Scroll down and look at "Page Hit Ranking" on the right hand side.
17:23 < Tony_Sidaway> mysterytrey: Ubuntu has been introducing a new desktop manager that in my opinion makes the system unusable.
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17:23 < Dcoetzee> Top 10 are: Mint, Ubuntu, Mageia, Fedora, openSUSE, Debian, Arch, CentOS, Puppy, PCLinuxOS
17:24 < Dcoetzee> Tony_Sidaway: I've kinda gotten used to Unity but it is a biiig change.
17:24 < mysterytrey> So what's the difference from a Linux, a Unix, and any other *nix ?
17:24 < Tony_Sidaway> I set up a printer server for my wife using Arch Linux. It's just a box that she turns on when she needs to print something.
17:25 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Linux is an open source version of UNIX designed to run on Intel and compatible CPUs.
17:25 < Demiurge1000> I would guess Tony is in a country where women are allowed to use printers unsupervised.
17:25 < Tony_Sidaway> Dcoetzee: Unity is a big no-go area for me because I run fairly old (circa 2005) hardware and on principle I will not buy new hardware. I don't need anything more powerful.
17:25 < Dcoetzee> It's kinda diverged from UNIX over time so some people question whether it still is. But it resembles it.
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17:26 < Dcoetzee> UNIX is a much broader group of OSs including Linux, BSD, OS X, Solaris, etc.
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17:26 < Tony_Sidaway> Ubuntu is still very much Unix. It's rock solid GNU.
17:26 < BarkingFish> Tony_Sidaway, you do realise that you can still install the Gnome shell with Ubuntu, don't you?
17:26 < Demiurge1000> UNIX(tm) is also protected by a trademark... UNIX systems include Solaris, AIX and a few others, but not Linux. Linux never achieved the certification.
17:26 < Dcoetzee> What they all have in common is some essential things about their core operating system, like the filesystem works, how devices are accessed, etc.
17:27 < Dcoetzee> Okay technically Linux is only UNIX-like
17:27 < Demiurge1000> So Linux is basically a cheaper knock-off of unix. Moderately compatible.
17:27 < Demiurge1000> It can be fairly easy to port /some/ software to Linux, for example.
17:27 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: I didn't much like that either. I went for dwm, which is fantastically good and all I need. Then I looked around at all the encrustations of Gnomery and stuff and wondered why I was still running an OS that had that stuff. I moved to OpenBSD.
17:28 < mysterytrey> So intel isn't an OS.  What exactly is it?
17:28 < Demiurge1000> Intel is a company.
17:28 < Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: Linux isn't a cheap knock-off. It is in every way a better Unix than the older BSD and SysV hybrids that used to be presented by commercial vendors.
17:28 < BarkingFish> Unity has caused a lot of grief since its introduction, I'll admit.  We didn't even ship 11.04 with it, due to the fact that it wasn't finished when 11.04 was frozen.
17:28 < Demiurge1000> Tony_Sidaway: That, and every discussion down that route, is a matter of opinion.
17:29 < BarkingFish> *We didn't even ship 11.04 with Gnome, due to...
17:29 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Intel is a company that makes CPUs. A CPU is the "smarts" in your computer, it executes programs and makes the computer do things.
17:29  * Jasper_Deng never knew the fundamental differences between Unix and Linux except Unix came first
17:29 < Tony_Sidaway> mysterytrey: Intel is a company that makes computer hardware. Their i386 computer architecture is the industry standard.
17:29 < Frood> it was
17:29 < Demiurge1000> heh
17:29 < Frood> now amd has the standard.
17:29 < Demiurge1000> and Apple.
17:29 < Frood> but intel has the market
17:29 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Basically, most versions of UNIX only run on certain CPUs and not others.
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17:29 < Demiurge1000> The problem with standards is, there's so many to choooooose from....
17:30 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: At the time Linux was made, UNIX only ran on big expensive computers.
17:30 < Demiurge1000> Same with "industry" standards, whether Tony admits it or not ;)
17:30 < Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: no. It is objectively a fact that older commercial Unix systems like had substandard userlands and they were deservedly killed off.
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17:30 < Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Linux runs on cheap PCs like the ones we use.
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17:30 < Tony_Sidaway> I was there. I used these systems.
17:30 < Demiurge1000> Indeed,... by contrast, Linux was written to run on a 386DX processor
17:31 < Tony_Sidaway> Linux now runs on just about anything now.
17:31 < Tony_Sidaway> Most BSDs, too.
17:31 < Demiurge1000> Tony_Sidaway: I use multiple Unix and Linux versions as part of my day to day job, ... not aware that any of either of them have been "killed off". Except maybe IRIX, we might still have some of those
17:31 < Dcoetzee> Yes, because Linux is open source, it has been ported to run on almost all types of CPUs.
17:31 < Dcoetzee> So it's no longer just "the Intel CPU version of UNIX"
17:31 < IRWolfie-> Linux tends is more up to date in terms of features than BSD anyway
17:32 < IRWolfie-> the dev team is much much larger
17:32 < Demiurge1000> I don't use BSD anyways... although I do have some BSD systems around here
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17:32 < Soapy> I dont think Ive ever seen anyone running BSD as a home OS
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17:32 < Soapy> BSD is in businesses a lot, though
17:32 < Jasper_Deng> There's PC-BSD
17:32 < Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: I should grab some of the older Unixes from my CV one of these days. It's like an elephant's graveyard of systems with crap K&R compilers and broken implementations of awk.
17:32 < Dcoetzee> Soapy: I do
17:32 < Dcoetzee> FreeNAS
17:32 < Demiurge1000> Tony_Sidaway: You mean "grab", or you mean "remove" ?
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17:32 < russavia> dcoetzee, you still rattling on about linux? ;)
17:33 < Dcoetzee> FreeNAS is based on FreeBSD and I run it on my NAS :-)
17:33 < Dcoetzee> It's kind of terrible.
17:33 < Demiurge1000> I think I donated a fair bit of SPARC hardware to support the OpenBSD development folks, back in the day
17:33 < Tony_Sidaway> Soapy: I use OpenBSD as my desktop OS and so does my wife. It's much smaller and nicer than many Linuxes these days.
17:33  * haggis gives BarkingFish a haggis biscuit.
17:33 < Demiurge1000> Tony_Sidaway: Your /wife/ ? Wait, are you that guy off Wikipediocracy that didn't like ErrantX ?  ;)
17:33 < Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: i mean, effectively, grep them and have a bit of a laugh about them.
17:34 < Demiurge1000> You need to update your CV, unless you're retired.
17:34 < Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: I don't know what Wikipediocracy or ErrantX are.
17:34 < Demiurge1000> Oh...
17:34 < Demiurge1000> Did you leave the mainstream about the same time IRIX did :P
17:34 < Soapy> ooh
17:35 < Soapy> i saw an irix machine once
17:35 < Wizardman> i've purposely kept out all of that. i presume it's just wr 2.0
17:35 < Soapy> it had a sticker on it that said "Don't press the DELETE key! Veeeerry bad!"
17:35 < Tony_Sidaway> I've no idea what you're babbling about now.
17:35 < Demiurge1000> I am, in theory, responsible for providing some sort of engineering support for IRIX machines. Quite how I would even start to try to do so, I can't imagine
17:35 < Soapy> irix was the OS they used to make CGI movies in the 90s
17:36 < Demiurge1000> indeed, teh Silicon Graphics workstations
17:36 < Soapy> do they still?
17:36 < Demiurge1000> not really
17:36 < Soapy> or has it been replaced by something else
17:36 < Soapy> ok
17:36 < Demiurge1000> They're still used in the real world ... but not quite so much as they used to be
17:37 < Tony_Sidaway> If you think modern BSD systems have anything to do with dinosaurs from commercial Unix, you've got a surprise. These are open source projects.
17:37 < Demiurge1000> Yeah, that's exactly why I was donating hardware to them a long time ago ;)
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17:38 < Demiurge1000> open source isn't a new thing, y'know
17:38 < Fluffernutter> ok wtf olympics. Harry Styles, the giant heartthrob of the teen band all the girls love? Apparently his sense of fashion is "Debbie Gibson, circa 1988"
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17:38 < Demiurge1000> Who? x2
17:38 < Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: you sound rather clueless, to say the least.
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17:38 < russavia> debbie gibson? dafuq! xD
17:39 < Demiurge1000> Looks like teh Tony troll left.
17:39 < Fluffernutter> seriously he is wearing this sort of...hat...with bangs...and it's exactly who he looks like
17:39 < russavia> demiurge1000 you think that tony is jayen466?
17:39 < Demiurge1000> He isn't wearing it /now/. He's in bed now.
17:39 < Demiurge1000> russavia: What evidence leads you to believe that he might be?
17:40 < Fluffernutter> fair point, Demiurge1000
17:40 < russavia> well you mentioned his /wife/
17:40 < Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/jayen466
17:40 < russavia> only jayen466 is married i believe
17:40 < russavia> the rest of the WF crowd has yet to be laid
17:40 < Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tony_Sidaway
17:40 < russavia> so 1 + 1 = 2
17:40 < Fluffernutter> WF?
17:40 < Soapy> wikimedia foundation I guess
17:40 < Demiurge1000> interesting theories, be sure to mention them to the angry troll whenever he comes back.
17:41 < russavia> WF = wikipediaforum
17:41 < russavia> .com
17:41 < Soapy> ok
17:41 < russavia> .fucktards
17:41 < Fluffernutter> that's a thing?
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17:41 < Fluffernutter> oh, it's another name for wikipediocracy
17:41 < harej> wickawacka
17:41 < russavia> wikipedidiotocracy
17:43 < Peter-C> O_o
17:44 < Demiurge1000> They are teh funny. Actually I thought Tony was a bit more respectable than that, but I guess you live and learn.
17:44 < russavia> it's especially lulzy watching them trying to get peter damian unblocked
17:44 < russavia> these fuckwits don't realise that they only have so many members (which isn't that many)
17:45 < Soapy> hm
17:45 < Soapy> peter Damian was just editing a few hours ago
17:45 < russavia> well if that's the case
17:45 < russavia> block him
17:45 < russavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Limited_unban_request_for_Peter_Damian
17:46 < Soapy>  ohe he is
17:46 < Soapy> *oh he is. Blocked, that is
17:46 < Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Quisquiliae
17:46 < Soapy> I just wonder if someone from that other forum was helping him stay under cover
17:46 < russavia> they are all trolls soapy
17:46 < russavia> of course they do
17:46 < Soapy> fat chance of getting an unban passed if he's socking while the request is going on
17:46 < russavia> *don't
17:47 < Demiurge1000> Soapy: Oddly enough, it came quite close
17:47 < russavia> they live to see WPidiots getting trolled
17:47 < Peter-C> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/12/skyler-stone-mike-smith-chick-fil-a-gay_n_1770894.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl5%7Csec1_lnk1%26pLid%3D191427&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
17:47 < russavia> unfortunately, there's enough truly WPidiots that fall for their trolling
17:48 < russavia> it's lulzy watching all that go down peter-c with chick-fil-a
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17:48 < Peter-C> inoright
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17:49 < russavia> the sooner the civilised United States lets Jesusland secede the better
17:49 < Fluffernutter> i was sort of disappointed that there wasn;t one convenient to me and that I don't have any female friends who live nearby
17:50 < russavia> fluffernutter, plis remember that in future if you do find one convenient, and have a female friend go with you, photos plis
17:50 < Demiurge1000> "I second the motion to take this to AN for an admin vote. [[User:Cla68|Cla68]] ([[User talk:Cla68|talk]]) 23:31, 12 August 2012 (UTC)" ... hmm I see two problems with this statement
17:51 < russavia> where has cla68 written this?
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17:52 < Demiurge1000> his contribs would tell you that, I hope. From memory, I think it was on ANI
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17:54 < Peter-C> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0cYZ7J1pes&feature=player_detailpage
17:55 < russavia> can someone please add to [[Jehovah]] the iw [[rw:Jehova]]
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17:56 < russavia> and to [[Portable Document Format]] plis add [[rw:PDF]]
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18:03 < Soapy> http://rw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehova
18:03 < Soapy> empty page
18:04 < russavia> sorry Yehova
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18:51 < Pharos> the only chick-fil-a around NY is the NYU cafeteria
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18:54 < mareklug> Pharos:  do you have a car?
18:54 < Pharos> i do not!
18:54 < Pharos> well, my family does, but not me
18:55 < mareklug> i was going to say there is one in Paramus Park Shopping Center
18:55 < mareklug> Paramus, NJ 07652  (201) 967-9494
18:56 < Pharos> I don't particularly go in for homosexual kissing
18:56 < Pharos> not that there's anything wromg with that!
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18:56 < mareklug> don't tell me the entire mall there is homosexual
18:57 < Pharos> the ENTIRE mall
18:57 < Pharos> I am, however, willing to act as matchmaker for WMNYC members who are intersted in homosexual kissing
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18:58 < Pharos> this is part of my presidential duties
18:58 < mareklug> your other NJ option is to the south.  Woodbridge Center
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18:59 < mareklug> 434 Woodbridge Ctr, Woodbridge, NJ 07095, (732) 634-8981
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18:59 < Pharos> come on WMYCers, represent!
19:00 < GabrielF> I'm kind of surprised NYU lets Chik-fil-a run a store on their premises, Northeastern wouldn't let them because of the gay thing
19:00 < Pharos> bluerasberry will probably get us a float at the nyc pride parade if he sticks around
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19:01 < Pharos> i think it's been there for awhile; also NYU has a bunch of southern students
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19:03 < mareklug> Pharos:  or you could be a man and go to the nearest Wendy's and have their chicken.  the spicy chicken wrap is good.
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19:05 < GorillaWarfare> I like bluerasberry ^^
19:05 < Apheori> Strange fellow.
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19:06 < GorillaWarfare> Aren't we all
19:06 < Apheori> I'm normal.
19:06 < GabrielF> I saw that a New Hampshire chick-fil-a franchise owner decided to sponsor the local gay pride parade
19:06 < Apheori> So is Peter-C.
19:06 -!- yuvipanda [~yuvipanda@mediawiki/Yuvipandan] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
19:06 < Apheori> WE'RE NORMAL.
19:06 < Peter-C> ^
19:07 < Pharos> bluerasberry is my buddy
19:07 < Tony_Sidaway> No chick fil-A in London to my knowledge. Is this anti-gay stuff still spreading?
19:07 < GorillaWarfare> Oh man, I love his userpage photo
19:08 < Pharos> fun fact: he ALWAYS wears blue
19:08 < GabrielF> I saw a talk once by danah boyd (this microsoft research lady who is a sort of anthropologist of the Internet) and she was saying that the people who tend to adopt new communications technologies are "freaks, geeks and queers"
19:08 < GorillaWarfare> Pharos: I actually caught on to that
19:08 < GorillaWarfare> He and orangemike should hang out
19:08 < Apheori> Blue and orange are a horrible combination.
19:08 < Pharos> that would be dangerous
19:09 < Pharos> they are the national colors of NYC!
19:09 < Pharos> Go Mets!
19:09 < Apheori> NYC is a nation?
19:09 < GabrielF> Apheori: I thought that blue & orange were opposite on the color spectrum and thus went together really well?
19:09 < Pharos> and Knicks
19:09 < Apheori> No, it means when you combine them they form poop colour.
19:09 < Pharos> since the founding of WMNYC, yes we are a nayion
19:10 < Pharos> we have our own olympic team!
19:10 < Apheori> Disturbing.
19:11 < Pharos> http://project.wnyc.org/olympians/index.html
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19:12  * Apheori gives Guerillero a begonia.
19:13  * Pharos gives Apheori a bologna
19:13  * Apheori feeds it to her cat.
19:13 < Guerillero> thanks Apheori
19:13  * Fluffernutter gives Guerillero some bolognese
19:13 < Fluffernutter> unrelatedly, Queen makes me happy
19:13 < Guerillero> thanks fluff
19:14  * Apheori breaks a snake plant into a bunch of pieces and offers them to random passerby.
19:14 < Guerillero> so many gifts
19:14 < Fluffernutter> Jessie J, not so much
19:14 < GorillaWarfare> lolwut
19:14 < GorillaWarfare> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Unicorns_in_coats_of_arms_of_bishops_of_the_United_States
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19:15 < Apheori> There should be a category for Unicorns in Wikimedia logos, then, too.
19:15 < Pharos> who says commons is only porn?
19:15 < saburai> there's only one unicorn there : (
19:16 < Fluffernutter> poor lonely unicorn
19:16 < Apheori> There's only one Wikimedia logo with a unicorn that I know of as well, but it's AWESOME.
19:16 < Tony_Sidaway> Unicorn porn.
19:16 < Apheori> And Brooke did a terrible job of vectorising it and should be ashamed of himself.
19:16 < GorillaWarfare> saburai: Fear not; there are plenty here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Unicorns_in_military_coats_of_arms_of_the_United_States
19:16 < mareklug> but the ip who created the cat sure went whole hog in getting lang descriptions
19:16 < Apheori> Cute.
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19:18 < mareklug> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/60.62.202.89   <-- some kind of a unicorn lover.  it's all unicorns
19:20 < Pharos> are there any non-wikipedians who dress in only one color?
19:20 < GorillaWarfare> Fun fact: The White House employs three full-time calligraphers
19:20 < Pharos> and i don't think goths in black count
19:20 < Guerillero> I did not know that
19:20 < Tony_Sidaway> Oh so not caterpillars then.
19:21 < Pharos> WMF should employ 4 full-time calligraphers!
19:21 < Guerillero> why?
19:21 < GorillaWarfare> I'm trying to find a nicer image of the header (the bit that says "The White House Washington" at the top of http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Pentagon-Papers-Part_I.djvu/page244-1000px-Pentagon-Papers-Part_I.djvu.jpg
19:21 < Guerillero> we have computers
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19:21 < Pharos> it's the human touch
19:21 < GorillaWarfare> So far I've just found the unicorn categories and the fact about calligraphers
19:22  * Fluffernutter just saw Steven Zhang editing with his staff account and i had NO DAMN CLUE who "Szhang (WMF)" was. Am I getting old?
19:22 < Pharos> at the rate of 12 months / year, i'd say
19:23 < Apheori> Cute.No.
19:23 < Apheori> Dammit.
19:23 < Apheori> Fluffernutter: No.
19:23 < Apheori> His staff name is just not very descriptive.
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19:23 < Fluffernutter> well i mean i know the algorithm they use to make them
19:23 < Guerillero> I hate the movie I am watching
19:24 < Fluffernutter> somehow "Szhang" wasn't as seperable to  my brain as, like, "mdennis" or "okeyes"
19:24 < Apheori> Sure, but it's not nearly as good as his usual name.
19:24 < Pharos> algorithm detection fail
19:24 < Apheori> Shang.
19:24 < Tony_Sidaway> What do they use calligraphers for? I'm sure the Birthers think they're there to forge the reworded 14th amendment that makes Spanish the official language of the USA. But what are they actually for?
19:24 < mareklug> Guerillero:  what did you think of Pauline at the Beach?
19:24 < Guerillero> It is in my list to see
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19:25 < GorillaWarfare> Tony_Sidaway: Certificates, place settings...
19:25 < Demiurge1000> My employer thinks that the last four letters of your surname followed by the first letter of your christian name is very meaningful. So we have like SmitJ, SmitJ2, SmitJ3, SmitJ4 ... up to about fifty... and it's not even like all of those people are called John Smith!
19:26 < mareklug> Guerillero:  there are a couple of other Éric Rohmer films on netflix
19:26 < Frood> my phone has external antenna ports
19:26 < Apheori> Company I worked for did the first initial lastname thing too, but I was stubborn and wanted a different id.
19:26 < Apheori> So I got two different ones, neither of which followed pattern.
19:26 < Apheori> It got really confusing.
19:27 < Guerillero> my school does that
19:27 < Demiurge1000> Oh, I have a whole bunch... can't access anything special with my "standard" username, so have to have various other ones with site+region+flavour-of-icecream etc
19:27 < Fluffernutter> lol Demiurge1000
19:27 < Fluffernutter> I was surprised when I got my work email that my firstnamelastinitial was distinctive enough
19:27 < GorillaWarfare> My brother's school does something similar to that… They ended up reassiging an alum's email to him, but they didn't clear it out first
19:28 < Apheori> I think I had one that was backwards for my email and webstuff and just my first name for logins for the computers themselves or something...
19:28 < Demiurge1000> GorillaWarfare: Haha I like that!
19:28 < GorillaWarfare> So there were like 300 emails in his school email account to some random person
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19:28 < Apheori> Oh gods.
19:28 < Guerillero> I am TLastname2
19:28 < Fluffernutter> my college email was some ridiculous algorithm like "first initial + first 4 letters of last name + random integer"
19:28 < GorillaWarfare> Seemed a little questionable privacy-wise...
19:28 < Apheori> Yeah, that's what my current uni does.
19:28 < Apheori> Stupid integer.
19:29 < Fluffernutter> i continue to ponder how in the world i could have been the SECOND "myfirstinitial+myfirst4last"
19:29 < Apheori> Previous uni just varied up the ratio of first name to last when there were duplicates usually. Much easier to remember.
19:29 < Apheori> So you get Fred Smith 1 haveing fsmith and 2 have frsmit.
19:29 < Fluffernutter> are you still in uni, Apheori? For some reason i thought you were a little older than that
19:30 < Apheori> I dropped out.
19:30 < Apheori> It kind of slowed me down.
19:30 < Fluffernutter> ah, that'll do it
19:30 < Apheori> But if you must know, I'm actually 19 and have been for the past 5 years.
19:30 < Guerillero> see everyone's has a number in theirs at mine
19:31 < Apheori> ...possibly more.
19:31 < Apheori> >.>
19:31 < Fluffernutter> i have a family member who's been twenty-nine for about ten years now
19:31 < Apheori> Good number.
19:31 < Pharos> i've been 65 for the last 20 years
19:32 < Tony_Sidaway> My first university called me q17, which I thought at the time was rather lovely.
19:32 < Nascar1996> Question: what warning (if any) should I give this guy for http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANascar1996&diff=507135329&oldid=507053598
19:32 < Fluffernutter> rather artful, Tony_Sidaway
19:33 < Tony_Sidaway> As the years pass by though I find myself wishing they'd been more imaginative. W22 or Y8.
19:33 < Nascar1996> More likely, can I get a admin to ban that guy?
19:33 < Apheori> One of my colleges used numerical things for everything.  It was just s035763429 or some such for students.
19:33  * Nascar1996 just looked at his/her's contributions.
19:33 < Nascar1996> All personal attacks
19:34 < saburai> in high school my ID number was 7
19:34 < Nascar1996> Nevermind
19:35 < saburai> the teacher liked me, so he gave me '007' as an ID number, which the system turned into 7
19:35 < Apheori> I like how when editing there's no need to keep a straight face.
19:35 < saburai> everyone else had 4 digits or more in their ID
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19:35 < Apheori> "It is 100% fact. He did in fact invent a time machine in his teens to prevent Queen Elizabeth from assassinating the Beatles."
19:36 < Apheori> Okay. Find some reliable sources.
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19:38 < Tony_Sidaway> Rather strange that the queen agreed to be depicted hobnobbing with a murderous thug like James Bond.
19:38 < Pharos> he is her employee
19:39 < Tony_Sidaway> (Musing out loud about Olympics)
19:39 < Pharos> like another corgi
19:39 < Demiurge1000> He'll be musing about Linux again within a few minutes.
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19:40 < Pharos> back in my day, it was GNU?Linux
19:40 < Tony_Sidaway> He isn't really. He's a fictional representation and a rather fanciful one at that. It's as if Jason Bourne entered the real Oval Office and the real President greeted him.
19:40 < Frood> should https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Boxberg_OL_-_Reichwalde_-_Tagebau_03_%28mT%29_ies.ogv&action=history maybe be protected, commons admins?
19:40 < Demiurge1000> Pharos: That was a somewhat later invention :)
19:41 < Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge please let's draw a truce on that. Life is too short for sniping.
19:41 < Demiurge1000> Agreed.
19:42  * Demiurge1000 burns the flag of truce so that we can all toast marshmallows with it. Or, some such confusion of metaphors.
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19:47 < Tony_Sidaway> Are the veepstakes articles still protected, I wonder? This made headlines in some news sources last week.
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19:54 < NyanChat> Can anyone have a fundraiser that involves a trip from Jordanhill to Izbat al Burj?
19:55 < Frood> Pharos is an admin?
19:55 < Pharos> i am
19:55 < Pharos> i'm highly ninactive tho ;)
19:55 < Frood> i didn't know this until i was looking through the main page history
19:55 < Frood> and saw you edited it
19:55 < Frood> then i looked at your rights log
19:55 < Pharos> many times, back in the day
19:55 < Frood> and
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19:55 < Frood> 21:11, March 18, 2005 Cecropia (talk | contribs) changed rights for User:Pharos from (none) to (none) (+sysop)
19:56 < Frood> so in 2005, sysop was literally nothing?
19:56 < Pharos> we had a vote!
19:56 < Isarra> Not a !vote like they have these days?
19:56 < Pharos> i used to be the free images maven for the main page
19:57 < Frood> and on April 19, 2007, the main page was unprotected for two minutes
19:57 < Pharos> well, it was a !vote, we had !voters, !ballots, and a rousing !campaign
19:57 < Frood> no, one minute
19:57 < Pharos> i has two things i did
19:57 < Frood> the person who unprotected was also blocked.
19:57 < Pharos> 1 make sure there werent genitalia on the main page
19:58 < Pharos> thast was a big job
19:58 < Pharos> it used to be an issue!
19:58 < Frood> and he's banned
19:58 < Pharos> then, make sure no fair use images on main page
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19:58 < Tony_Sidaway> Ah, Ryan article semi-protected until 17th. And even so there is a bit of a tussle going on. Is he or isn't he a brown noser, and is that relevant?
19:59 < Pharos> it used to be a thing
19:59 < Pharos> admions would "go postal" and delete the main page
19:59 < Pharos> at one point they started making redundant copies
20:00 < Pharos> i think three are like 15 main pages sitting under the main one just in case
20:00 < Pharos> or at least there were in 2008 :P
20:00 < Tony_Sidaway> Why no genitals?
20:00 < norbit> Guess who!?!?!
20:01 < Frood> Fox News.
20:01 < norbit> Tony_Sidaway: because we're not commons.
20:01 < Pharos> well, they're ok if the article is about genitals
20:01 < Frood> "Wikipedia a porn site? Why your kids should never use Wikipedia, at 11"
20:01 < Frood> also, I doubt the community would allow that.
20:02 < Pharos> Wikipedia is not a porn site, unless you want it to be!
20:02 < Frood> there are /lots/ of younger kids (10-12ish) who use Wikipedia
20:02 < Frood> and seeing dicks on the main page
20:02 < Frood> might be bad
20:02 < Pharos> it was
20:02 < Pharos> i don't think anyone ever noticed tho
20:04 < BlastHardcheese> as we know, people don't grow penises or boobies until the day they turn 18
20:05 < Pharos> i remember, it was very hard to urinate as a kid
20:05 < Tony_Sidaway> There are pictures of genitals in appropriate places on Wikipedia. And we shouldn't forget that, for many kids, encyclopedias are their only legitimate and reliable source of information about their own sexuality.
20:05 < Sven_Manguard> BlastHardcheese: also swear words are never uttered in middle school
20:06 < Frood> and in high school, teachers swear at you
20:06 < Guerillero> yes
20:07 < Tony_Sidaway> We should really be _promoting_ the uncensored status of Wikipedia rather than trying to conceal it.
20:07 < norbit> Frood: My elementary teachers swore :O
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20:07 < Pharos> my teaching were very well-behaved
20:07 < Tony_Sidaway> In the early days as I recall this was very much the case.
20:07 < Pharos> most of the time
20:08 < Tony_Sidaway> Most places a kid goes, they're lied to. Wikipedia is different.
20:09 < Tony_Sidaway> Here they can learn about sex and other sensitive topics.
20:09 < norbit> Isarra: so you don't get mad, this is me.
20:09 < norbit> this is me until sept 31st
20:09 < Frood> ...kids don't need to see a grown man's penis
20:09 < Frood> that won't teach them about sex
20:09 < Isarra> Who?
20:10 < Pharos> me
20:10 < Isarra> Ah.
20:10 < Isarra> Hello, little Pharos.
20:10  * Isarra pats norbit on the head.
20:10  * norbit is splatted, by Isarra
20:10 < Frood> learning about sex by seeing picture of genitals is about as likely as learning how to replace an engine by looking at a car
20:10  * norbit is unsplatted
20:11 < Pharos> I'm so proud of mini-me
20:11 < Isarra> Don't kids ever use locker rooms at public pools these days?
20:11 < Frood> and yeah, sometimes you need to lie to kids about that stuff
20:11 < Isarra> See plenty of genitals there.
20:11 < Frood> Isarra: and this is why i don't go to the pool
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20:11 < Isarra> And that's the places where the pools themselves don't have visible genitals.
20:12  * Isarra pats Frood on the head.
20:12 < Frood> it's always old people
20:12 < Frood> not even the "if i were gay they'd be attractive" people.
20:12 < Frood> no, ths old 70 year old man
20:13 < Pharos> ok
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20:14 < Pharos> that is one perspective
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20:15 < GabrielF> sven_manguard: you around?
20:18 < Tony_Sidaway> No you don't need to lie to kids about sex. And certainly an encyclopedia shouldn't let them down if they're stuck with stupid or mendacious parents.
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20:21 < NyanChat> Frood: what's this about wp being porno?
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20:21 < NyanChat> Are the kids prevented from registering, if under 13, due to COPPA laws?
20:21 < Tony_Sidaway> I think Larry Sanger made a thing about this the other day.
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20:23 < Demiurge1000> Anyone under the age of 16, cannot sign up to an adult account on Wikipedia.  Cunningly, no-one over the age of 16 can do so either.
20:24 < Tony_Sidaway> There seem to be many Americans who equate all depiction of genitals with porn.
20:25 < Tony_Sidaway> Lots of people in other nations too, but Americans seem to be most widely prone to this.
20:25 < Frood> NyanChat: No.
20:29 < NyanChat> So why isn't COPPA enforced on WM sites?
20:29 < Frood> doesn't have to be
20:29 < Frood> they don't require personal info
20:29 < Frood> you can remain completely anonymous on WP
20:29 < Frood> no email required
20:29 < NyanChat> o...kay.
20:29 < Frood> no name required
20:30 < NyanChat> So we probably get gradeschoolers here all the time, about 2/5ths of them vandals.
20:30 < Guerillero> COPPA only works if you require personal info
20:30 < Frood> it's very hard to enforce, too.
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20:30 < Frood> see: facebook
20:30 < NyanChat> no kidding. many like to lie because kids haven't yet learned the patience to wait to age 13
20:31 < Tony_Sidaway> Our primary audience is grade school kids. We're an encyclopedia.
20:31 < NyanChat> Primary... audience? http://simple.wikipedia.org is not?
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20:33  * NyanChat for a while thought high schools and colleges were primary audiences
20:34 < Frood> NyanChat: no, that's mostly for people whose first language isn't English
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20:34 < Frood> But I use it a lot
20:34 < Frood> for some things
20:35 < NyanChat> Well Frood, the way the Simple wiki reads gives off the vibe of the texts I read in grade school. No joke.
20:35 < Demiurge1000> NyanChat, there seems to be a misunderstanding. The minimum age to use Wikipedia is NOT 13.
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20:35 < Frood> it's "old enough to use a computer?
20:35 < Frood> s/?/"/
20:36 < NyanChat> I got on my Dad's Amiga for the first time at 5, but spilled Coke on it at 7...
20:36 < NyanChat> Dad should've invested in a membrane cover.
20:36 < Frood> anyway, bed.
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20:37 < Demiurge1000> gradeschoolers who add "Fred is gay" are very easy to deal with - usually they are dealt with by other gradeschoolers. Adults who indulge in years-long defamation campaigns against living people are harder to deal with... gradeschoolers also help in dealing with them.
20:37 < NyanChat> Demi, you referring to [[Fred Figglehorn]] ( [[Lucas Cruikshank]]?)
20:37 < Demiurge1000> I'm not.
20:38 < Demiurge1000> I might be referring to [[Ronn Torrossian]], but I'm not sure I can spell it.
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20:40 < Tony_Sidaway> My son learned to use a computer with my Amiga. He was a rather precocious three-year-old.
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20:42 < Tony_Sidaway> He insisted that I show him how to write simple expressions in Smalltalk, one day. He was delighted that it could tell him whether 6+8=14 and so on.
20:44 < Tony_Sidaway> I had to explain, though, the meaning of the words true and false. They are not encountered in most reading material intended for toddlers.
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21:03 < Peter-C> I like how Mint loves to rub it in my face I’m poor
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21:04 < dfeuer> Who can rename http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Halon_fire_supression.jpg to fix the spelling?
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21:07 < Tony_Sidaway> Peter-C Linux Mint?
21:07 < Peter-C> Mint.com
21:07 < Isarra> dfeuer: What's the spelling?
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21:08 < dfeuer> It should be "suppression", not "supression", but that's also an insufficiently descriptive title.
21:08 < Isarra> So what, 'Halon fire suppression SIGN'?
21:09 < Peter-C> ^
21:09 < dfeuer> Isarra: Halon fire suppression warning sign, I would say.
21:10 < Isarra> Is it really worth the bother? >.>
21:10 < dfeuer> Yes.
21:10 < dfeuer> Especially because it's spelled wrong,
21:10 < dfeuer> and incorrect spelling is always worth fixing :)
21:10 < Isarra> I guess that does fall under criterion 3...
21:10 < Isarra> Mon, this is commons. Spelling is beneath us.
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21:11 < Isarra> them*
21:12 < dfeuer> So, Isarra, what will it get to get it moved?
21:12 < Isarra> Hold on, I'll move it. Just for you.
21:13 < dfeuer> Thank you!
21:13 < dfeuer> I can clean up the links if you like.
21:13 < Isarra> It think there's a bot that does that.
21:14 < Isarra> But I dunno because I never actually do this.
21:14 < dfeuer> Here, have some ice cream with milk.
21:15  * Isarra eyes commons suspiciously.
21:16 < Isarra> Whaaah weird.
21:16 < ChrisGualtieri> Whoever is messing up categories is going to get it x-x
21:16 < ChrisGualtieri> I basically finished TypoScan
21:16 < dfeuer> ChrisGualtieri: doesn't every mathematician mess up categories /sometimes/?
21:17 < Isarra> Apparently an admin has to process the list before the bot will replace all three uses of the thing. XD
21:17 < ChrisGualtieri> The problem is, it messes with the parsers!
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21:17 < dfeuer> Isarra: I wish that sentence meant something to me.
21:17 < Isarra> I'm sorry.
21:17 < dfeuer> ChrisGualtieri: I was just being silly--I have no idea what you're talking about.
21:18 < Isarra> Either it'll get replaced or someone will yell at me, though.
21:18 < dfeuer> Although I do have a clear idea of what a parser is.
21:18 < ChrisGualtieri> Basically, if I don't fix the formating and flow, it could crash the Wikipedia to DVD parser program in development
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21:19 < Isarra> Parsers are magic, right?
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21:19 < Isarra> With this upload wizard thing, are folks trying to drown people in walls of text?
21:20  * Peter-C licks Isarra
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21:20 < dfeuer> ChrisGualtieri: if your parser can actually /crash/, you've done it all wrong. If it just fails with an error and gives no useful output, then .... well, it might need a little more work.
21:20 < Isarra> Or have I not been paying attention and that's the way all the projects are?
21:20  * Isarra licks Peter-C.
21:20  * Peter-C eats Isarra’s dwelling
21:20  * dfeuer hugs Isarra and tries to convince hir not to lick people in public.
21:20  * Isarra eats Peter-C's family.
21:20 < Peter-C> :(
21:20  * Peter-C eats himself
21:21 < dfeuer> Now now! No eating people, or even dwellings!
21:21  * Isarra considers this a victory.
21:21 < ChrisGualtieri> I don't run a parser >.> But these categories with spaces, errors in templates, bad ISBNs and stuff, those all need to be fixed anywyas
21:21  * Isarra goes back to what she was doing.
21:23 < Isarra> Is it a copyright violation if I release something under a license requiring attribution and then forget to attribute myself when using it?
21:23 < Tony_Sidaway> You can do what you like with your own work.
21:24 < Isarra> But what if nobody is supposed to know it's me?!
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21:24  * Isarra panics and goes into hiding.
21:24 < Tony_Sidaway> Then that's a separate issue, but it still isn't copyright infringement.
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21:25 < Isarra> He's no fun.
21:25 < TeeTylerToe> just add the attribution and try not to sue yourself
21:25 < dfeuer> Um .... Isarra .... I thought there were two links to that file.  I fixed one of them......
21:25 < Isarra> Okay.
21:25 < TeeTylerToe> unless you have lots of nice stuff, or large bank accounts
21:25 < dfeuer> But now I don't know where the other one was....
21:26 < Isarra> Woah, fancy, rollback links that actually say how many edits that would revery...
21:26 < Isarra> t
21:26 < Isarra> Duuuude.
21:26 < Isarra> I'm so out of it right now.
21:26 < dfeuer> Oh,
21:27 < dfeuer> don't worry.
21:27 < dfeuer> I found it, Isarra.
21:27 < dfeuer> 'Twill be fixed momentarily (right now just shows a "broken link" sort of image).
21:27 < Isarra> You don't need to do that; I put in a request for the bot to do it.
21:27 < Isarra> It'll be magical.
21:28 < dfeuer> It will be irrelevant, because it is already done.
21:28 < dfeuer> There were only two pages linking to that file, and they're both fixed now.
21:28 < Isarra> The request is there. Doing it is pointless.
21:28 < Isarra> >.<
21:28 < dfeuer> Obviously, I'm faster than the bot :P
21:29 < dfeuer> Or the bot-approval process, or whatever.
21:29 < Isarra> Okay, so is the 'rollback 5 edits' thing a mw1.20wmf9 thing, or just another Commons sucks at putting weird js in the right place thing?
21:30 < Jasper_Deng> it's 1.20wmf9
21:30 < Isarra> Oh, cool.
21:30 < dfeuer> ?
21:30 < Isarra> Commons still sucks at putting js in the right place, though.
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21:38 < dfeuer> A good friend (ז״ל) of my grandmother's (ז״ל) was a caterer, and she would make cheese blintzes for me when I was a little kid. I would like to learn how to make such myself some day. Perhaps the next time I get vacation time, if that should ever happen....
21:39  * dfeuer offers Isarra a blueberry blintz of the store-bought frozen variety.
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21:40 < TeeTylerToe> paul ryan's veins run with cheese?
21:40 < dfeuer> evilgohan2: if you truly are evil, I might have to cut off your ears and serve them to Peter-C.
21:40 < TeeTylerToe> isn't there some sort of physical for the job?
21:40  * Isarra freaks out and runs away.
21:41 < dfeuer> Isarra: blueberry blintzes frighten you?
21:41 < Isarra> Sure, I dunno.
21:41 < TeeTylerToe> "My veins run with cheese, bratwurst, and a little Spotted Cow and some Millers," Ryan said, his voice cracking with emotion. "I even think ice fishing is interesting."
21:41 < dfeuer> TeeTylerToe: if there were some sort of physical for the job, Dick Cheney would never have gotten it.
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21:42 < TeeTylerToe> that is an interesting question, because Reagan's mental state was deteriorating with age
21:42 < dfeuer> Wasn't there a president who died of pneumonia within days of taking office?
21:42 < TeeTylerToe> maybe
21:42 < TeeTylerToe> I think after an assassination?
21:42 < dfeuer> Isarra: please explain what you could possibly find frightening about blueberry blintzes.
21:43 < TeeTylerToe> I dunno, blueberry packts is a little weird
21:43 < TeeTylerToe> packets
21:43 < BlastHardcheese> william henry harrison
21:44 < dfeuer> BlastHardcheese: I just figured that out.
21:44 < BlastHardcheese> dfeuer: what do you mean, Dick Cheney is an immortal cyborg
21:44 < dfeuer> Died on his 23rd day in office, the shortest term of any U.S. president, according to WP.
21:45 < dfeuer> BlastHardcheese: if so, he does quite a good job of pretending to be a (sub?)human with serious heart (as well as soul) problems.
21:46 < ChrisGualtieri> I'm out of work to conduct with AWB >.> Typoscan is done and checkwiki is too slow
21:46 < TeeTylerToe> wow, the guy that's running the dishonest ads taking the other guy's words out of context is criticizing his opponent's campaign...
21:47 < dfeuer> TeeTylerToe: which one are you talking about this time?
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21:47 < Isarra> dfeuer: Timing can make anything terrifying if already startled.
21:47 < TeeTylerToe> Romney's criticizing Obama's campaign for being the lowest, meanest, most negative campaign in american history
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21:48  * dfeuer hasn't seen a good presidential /candidate/ in his life, let alone a good president. My mom has often said the only good candidate she ever saw was Hubert Humphrey, and he lost to Nixon.
21:50 < dfeuer> I voted for Obama, and I'll vote for him again, but I sure as heck don't /like/ him.
21:50 < harej> dfeuer, you're definitely not alone.
21:50 < dfeuer> TeeTylerToe: however, /Romney/ calling /Obama/ negative is ... out there.
21:50 < norbit> Obama is boss.
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21:50 < TeeTylerToe> almost all elections in the US are between bad and worse
21:50  * Peter-C eats harej’s hands
21:51 < dfeuer> I suspect Clinton might've made a better president, but I don't think she ever had a chance of winning a general election.
21:51 < dfeuer> Her husband I would personally rate as "extremely overrated".
21:51 < TeeTylerToe> it's hard for anyone to critize clinton when his followup act was bush
21:52 < dfeuer> GW Bush is hard to underrate. GHW Bush I honestly know very little about.
21:53 < dfeuer> I was only a kid when he was in office.
21:53 < dfeuer> I know he did the whole Gulf War thing, but I don't know too much else.
21:54 < Pharos> he saved us from that whole martian thing
21:54 < TeeTylerToe> ghw bush was replaced by clinton because when the economy soured a little he raised taxes to lower the deficit.  He must have been some kind of democrat
21:54 < Pharos> will always be well-remembered for that
21:54 < TeeTylerToe> wonder if he ever met george w bush, they have the same last name
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21:54 < Guerillero> they are father and son
21:55 < Pharos> really?
21:55 < Pharos> is this like a birther conspiracy theory?
21:55 < dfeuer> Pharos: Martian thing?
21:55 < TeeTylerToe> next you're going to tell me george w. bush was born in massachusettes and was educated in the nort
21:55 < TeeTylerToe> north
21:55 < Pharos> you don't remember the cyclinder that landed in New Jersey?
21:56 < Pharos> they had to call in the national guard ans everything
21:56 < dfeuer> Not so much.
21:56 < dfeuer> What was it, an old U.S. spy satellite?
21:56 < Pharos> ghw bush got bipartisan support on that one
21:57 < Pharos> (I'm joshing with you)
21:57 < harej> TeeTylerToe: George W. Bush was born in Connecticut, not Massachusetts.
21:57 < Pharos> you never heard of War of the Worlds?
21:57 < TeeTylerToe> I thought the bush compound was in MA
21:57 < harej> the bushes are from connecticut, yo
21:57 < TeeTylerToe> I'm sure you're right
21:58 < Pharos> they're not boston brahmins
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21:58 < Pharos> that would be too cosmopolitan
21:58 < TeeTylerToe> some wag in the George H W Bush administration called "cheney" said that invading Iraq would be a quagmire
21:58 < TeeTylerToe> that it would be nation building, and there would be an insurgency
21:58 < TeeTylerToe> wonder what happened to him
21:59 < Demiurge1000> He was a dick.
21:59 < harej> He exited the vice presidency in a wheelchair. Then he got a heart transplant and lost a ton of weight.
21:59 < Seddon> HAH HAH ha...... ha.
21:59 < Pharos> i don't get what's wrong with "nation building"
22:00 < Pharos> former yougoslavia worked a lot better than iraq
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22:00 < TeeTylerToe> it's like trying to rebuild detroit
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22:00 < Pharos> or japan
22:00 < TeeTylerToe> nobody wants it, it will be a money sink, and a lot of people will be killed
22:00 < Pharos> or germany
22:00 < Pharos> or britain
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22:01 < Seddon> Or every former colony
22:01 < Pharos> or any other country that's been successfully rebuilt
22:01 < Seddon> cept the aussies
22:01 < Seddon> they went swimmingly well
22:01 < Seddon> and new zealand, there is nothing there to fight over
22:01 -!- Jmajeremy [~Jmajeremy@wikipedia/Jmajeremy] has quit [Quit: Jmajeremy]
22:01 < Pharos> building nations isn't such a bad thing
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22:01 < Pharos> it's breaking them to smithereens that's bad
22:02 < Seddon> Its also expensive
22:02 < Pharos> war is usually more expensive
22:02 < TeeTylerToe> you would think the US would have been able to restore electricity to baghdad more quickly
22:02 < Pharos> germany could have used some nation-building after world war one!
22:03 < TeeTylerToe> west germany after ww2 too
22:04 < TeeTylerToe> no east
22:04 < Peter-C> When I go take my flight on Friday, would it be normal to ask the TSA for a strip search?
22:04 < Peter-C> And a colonoscopy
22:05 < TeeTylerToe> you can go through the nudie scanners
22:06 < harej> ...a colonoscopy?
22:06 < harej> Yes, the TSA is going to make you do the several hours of prep work.
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22:06 < harej> "Sir, before you can board this plan you will have to drink this gallon jug..."
22:08 < Peter-C> Better idea
22:08 < Pharos> a free colonscopy would be a bonus
22:08 < Peter-C> What if I take my pants off at the checkpoint and say “I’m ready and prepped for my colonoscopy”
22:08 < TeeTylerToe> They could do cancer screenings at the same time.
22:08 < TeeTylerToe> Very convenient
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22:08 < Peter-C> And take an x-ray
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22:09 < Pharos> also, they could spay and neuter your pets
22:10 < Peter-C> Good idea
22:10 < Peter-C> And they can charge for all of this
22:10 < Peter-C> Government makes money, your prostate is happy
22:10 < Peter-C> win win
22:11 < OlEnglish> my prostitute is happy?
22:12 < Pharos> i hope, for your sake
22:12 < Pharos> you wouldn't like your prostate when it's angry
22:12 < Peter-C> OlEnglish - read that mega wrong
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22:12 < Peter-C> No, wait, I read it correctly
22:13 < Peter-C> You know your prostitute is happy when they pay you
22:13 < Peter-C> Quote me on that
22:13 < OlEnglish> that would make YOU the prostitute!
22:14 < Peter-C> Or awesome in the sack
22:14 < TeeTylerToe> Also spay and neuter your school age children
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22:18 < Isarra> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tiger_versus_lion#editsemiprotected
22:19  * Isarra dies.
22:20 < Mdann52> That name sounds familiar...
22:22 -!- Empercan [~quassel@88.233.168.132] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:24 < Mdann52> Oh... That TLDR one
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22:27 < Riley> Is there a policy about mass editing ?
22:27 < Riley> And when I say "mass" I mean fast (AKA flooding)
22:29 < Guerillero> yes
22:29 < Demiurge1000> There is WP:MASSCREATION
22:29 < Guerillero> WP:BOTPOL
22:29 < Guerillero> whats up?
22:29 < Demiurge1000> and also WP:MASTURBATION
22:29  * Isarra hits Demiurge1000 with a frying pan.
22:29 < Isarra> WP:BEANS, man.
22:29 < Demiurge1000> mmm, bacon
22:29 < Guerillero> There is Demiurge?
22:30 < Demiurge1000> There is always Demiurge.
22:30  * Peter-C pulls Guerillero’s beard
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22:30 < Demiurge1000> Kind of like the poor, if you're into Abrahamic religions.
22:30 < Guerillero> :o
22:30 < Riley> WP:MASSCREATION is about creating articles tho?
22:31 < Guerillero> PM me the link if you would like
22:31 < Riley> It's nothing serious :)
22:31 < Guerillero> ok
22:32 < Riley> I am just looking for a policy that states not to edit fast
22:32 < Guerillero> at one time there were vandals that were bots
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22:33  * Isarra suddenly gets an urge to make a mass of typo fixes all at once.
22:33 < Riley> Can someone get blocked for editing fast?:P
22:33 < Guerillero> look at the Rich Farmbrough arbcom case
22:33 < Riley> link?
22:34 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
22:34 < dfeuer> Ooh.... There is someone named Riley here. I like that name.
22:34 < TeeTylerToe> let the hate flow through you Isarra!
22:34  * TeeTylerToe is sith
22:35  * Isarra drops inkscape on TeeTylerToe.
22:35 < Riley> Ooh.... There is someone named David here. I like that name.
22:35 < TeeTylerToe> 0.o
22:35 < Riley> Your last name sounds french :O is it?
22:36 < Riley> Guerillero: Do you have a link for the arbcom case?
22:37 < Guerillero> I am getting it. My internet is slow today
22:37 < dfeuer> There's an /article/ on Tiger_versus_lion?  What kind of joke is that?
22:38 < Guerillero> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rich_Farmbrough
22:38 < Kraps> wheres the meerkat vs ferret article
22:38 < Kraps> or pirates vs. ninjas
22:39 < Demiurge1000> cobra versus honey badger!
22:39 < Kraps> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_vs._ninjas
22:39 < Guerillero> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rich_Farmbrough
22:39 < dfeuer> Riley: nope. It's from the German Feuerwerker (my family spells it Feuerwerger). We're not German (we're eastern European-derived Jews), but I guess there must have been German names flying around eastern Europe....
22:39 < Guerillero> blarg
22:39 < Riley> AH
22:39 < dfeuer> Lions and tigers and bears
22:39 < dfeuer> Also, Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
22:40 < dfeuer> I'm sorry, but that's an absurd article.
22:42 < Guerillero> there are worse
22:42 < OlEnglish> [[Goodsall's rule]]
22:42 < OlEnglish> what a thing to be named after
22:43 < Peter-C> I would be a great traffic cop
22:43 < Isarra> Is brandy a good substitute for tea?
22:43 < Peter-C> I would run into every situation screaming “hands in the air motherfucker”
22:43 < Peter-C> And it would work.
22:43 < Peter-C> And yes.
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22:52 < Peter-C> Gfoley4!
22:52 < Peter-C> Go to bed.
22:52 < Isarra> Peter-C: Go to bed.
22:52 < Peter-C> No you.
22:52 < Isarra> Good idea.
22:53 < Peter-C> :o
22:53 < Riley> Peter-C: Go to bed
22:53 < Riley> Its past your bedtime
22:53  * Mdann52 puts Peter-C in bed
22:53 < Peter-C> Riley - go make love with your girlfirend
22:53  * Peter-C breaks out
22:54 < Riley> Peter-C: Somehow her girlfriends have dragged her to L.A
22:54 < Riley> So no
22:54 < Peter-C> da faq
22:54 < Peter-C> Did you ever buy her that camera?
22:54 < Peter-C> Maybe she wants it so she can capture moments with you :o
22:55 < Riley> Well lets just say my credit card was used
22:55 < Peter-C> :o
22:55 < Peter-C> Who uses a cop for money O_o
22:56 < Mdann52> Cue evil chords from the organ
22:56 < Riley> Don't worry, ahaha. She still loves me :)
22:56 < Peter-C> :3
22:56 < Riley> I think... O.o
22:56 < Peter-C> Lock her in a room and make her confese her love you you 1,024 times
22:56 < Peter-C> No more, no less
22:57 < Riley> Why 1,024 times? xD
22:57 < Peter-C> Beasue, fuck you, that’s why.
22:57 < Peter-C> ._.
22:57 < Peter-C> My logic is awesome
22:57  * Riley cries in the corner
22:57 < Peter-C> <3
22:57  * Peter-C huggles Riley
22:57 < Riley> Fuck your logic
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22:57 < Riley> Hehee
22:57 < Peter-C> Magog_the_Ogre loves my logic
22:58 < Magog_the_Ogre> eh
22:58 < harej> Peter-C, why is there no Wikipedia article on implantation bleeding?
22:58  * Riley waits for Isarra to break out the frying pan
22:58 < Peter-C> surgical complication bro
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22:58 < Magog_the_Ogre> can someone explain to me why we have both [[cockfight]] and [[cockfighting]]?
22:59 < Peter-C> Also specifcs. What type of transplant?
22:59  * Mdann52 repeatedly hits Peter-C with the frying pan
22:59 < Magog_the_Ogre> at very most, one of those pages should be a disambig
22:59 < harej> ...Okay, I'm not going to ask Peter-C about gynaecology ever again.
22:59 < Peter-C> Ha. I’m an EMT, I can’t get hurt.
22:59 < Peter-C> harej - ectopic pregnancy?
22:59 < Brooke> Isarra: Prove it.
22:59 < Riley> THATS IT IM MAD! Who said Mdann52 use a frying pan?
23:00 < Peter-C> harej - you were refering to *that* implant
23:00 < Riley> Spelling fail ._.
23:00 < Peter-C> Dude, I assumed you meant brest augmentation.
23:00 < harej> Peter-C, it is, in fact, called "implantation bleeding," but Wikipedia is implying it is different from first trimester bleeding: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_trimester_bleeding>.
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23:01 < Peter-C> QuestionL why are you looking into this form of bleeding?
23:02 < Peter-C> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=notKtAgfwDA&feature=player_detailpage#t=35s
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23:03 < Riley>  "The uploader has not made this video available in your country. Sorry about that." Racist to canadians?
23:04 < Mdann52> :))
23:04 < Peter-C> pfft, canadians
23:06 < Isarra> Brooke: Prove what?
23:06 < Brooke> Isarra: It!
23:07  * Isarra stuffs it up Brooke's nose.
23:08 < Brooke> Isarra: MY VECTORIZATION WAS FINE.
23:08 < Isarra> It was fine for a machine tracing.
23:09 < Brooke> I'm not sure what that means.
23:09 < Mdann52> May I just ask, are non-admins allowed to do anything regarding empty unblock requests?
23:09 < Brooke> Pout.
23:09 < Brooke> Isarra: I hand-traced that unicorn.
23:09 < Isarra> ...oh.
23:09 < Brooke> Also, I forgive you.
23:09 < Isarra> Okay, you suck.
23:09 < Isarra> ...except worded more politely?
23:10 < Brooke> Isarra: Your tracing was barely much better!
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23:10 < TeeTylerToe> you could leave a note on the person requesting the ublock to add a reason
23:10 < Isarra> At low resolution, they're essentially the same.At big resolution, however...
23:10  * Peter-C dances around in an electronic trance
23:10 < Brooke> Oh, I didn't blow them up.
23:10 < Isarra> Lumps! Curves! Corners!
23:11 < Isarra> But one of the main reasons for vectorising is scalability!
23:11 < Brooke> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/Wikimedia_Labs_logo_notext.svg/1000px-Wikimedia_Labs_logo_notext.svg.png
23:11 < Peter-C> Fuck yes.
23:11 < Brooke> Looks like a unicorn to me.
23:11 < Peter-C> I would ride that into battle.
23:11 < norbit> Brooke: wtf is that supposed to be
23:11 < Brooke> norbit: A UNICORN.
23:12 < Peter-C> Unicorns are virgin ponys ._.
23:12 < Peter-C> Which is why there are non left.
23:12  * Peter-C runs
23:12 < Isarra> IT'S LUMPY.
23:12  * Peter-C learned that from someone at Wikimania
23:12 < norbit> Isarra: thats what...
23:12 < Peter-C> Isarra - UNICORNS HAVE LUMPS BUT THEY ARE THE MOST MAGESTIC LAND CREATURE
23:12 < Riley> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Community_boat_logo.svg/2000px-Community_boat_logo.svg.png
23:13 < Riley> So much better
23:13 < harej> Isarra: no unicorn body-shaming
23:13 < Peter-C> ^
23:13 < Brooke> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Wikimedia_labs_logo.svg/1000px-Wikimedia_labs_logo.svg.png
23:13 < Isarra> That's less lumpy.
23:13 < norbit> "I'm Katy Perry and I'm going to be on How I Met Your Mother this week"
23:13 < Brooke> It has less character, you mean.
23:14 < Brooke> Look at that plain Jane snout.
23:14 < norbit> "I'm Neil Patrick Harris and I'm going to be on Katy Perry this week."
23:14 < Isarra> And fewer lumps.
23:14 < Isarra> It has CURVES.
23:14 < Isarra> Like a real woman.
23:15 < Isarra> IShadowed has curves too.
23:15 < Isarra> BECAUSE SHE'S REAL.
23:15 < IShadowed> wut
23:15 < IShadowed> yeah
23:15 < IShadowed> women fuck yeah
23:15 < Isarra> Yes.
23:16 < Peter-C> Fuck yea! :D
23:16 < Isarra> Okay, so some women actually are pretty lumpy, but that's beside the point.
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23:16 < Brooke> Why do you hate women and unicorns?
23:16 < Isarra> Maybe Brandon Harris can clear this up for us.
23:17 < Isarra> Since apparently he 'hand-built' it.
23:17 < Peter-C> Is he up?
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23:17 < Peter-C> I thought he would have retired to his chambers.
23:17 < Isarra> Who knows, but he may soon find a rather lumpy unicorn sat upon him.
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23:22 < Riley> Well um I'm blown away; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LaWWx6F1Fs
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23:23 < Brooke> I clicked that link.
23:23 < Riley> And?
23:24 < Brooke> I closed the windows after a few seconds.
23:24 < Brooke> window
23:24 < Riley> O..
23:24 < Riley> You have to give her credit for writing the song tho
23:24 < Brooke> She's no Gaga.
23:24 < Peter-C> Is that your girlfirend?
23:24 < Riley> I wish she was
23:25  * Peter-C slaps Riley
23:25 < Peter-C> bad.
23:25 < Peter-C> BAD.
23:25 < Peter-C> Bad.
23:25 < Riley> Shhh you minor ;)
23:25 < Riley> :O
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23:26 < Riley> Brooke: I am glad "She's no Gaga"
23:26 < Riley> Because shes here own unique self
23:27 < Brooke> Lady Gaga can sing and play the piano, though.
23:27 < Riley> Katy was just doing the same thing..
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23:28 < dfeuer> OlEnglish: [[Goodsall's rule]] is a perfectly decent article topic, though it could be written more clearly.
23:28 < OlEnglish> yeah i know
23:28  * Peter-C calls Riley’s gielfriend
23:28 < OlEnglish> i was just commenting on how it must suck to have your name forever associated with an anal fistula
23:29 < Riley> O.o
23:29 < Peter-C> I’m telling her you love another woman
23:29  * dfeuer attempts to interpret the sentence "Somehow her girlfriends have dragged her to L.A." Tentative interpretation: Riley is talking about herself in the third person.
23:30 < TeeTylerToe> I'm not sure that article should have a simple english version
23:30 < Riley> dfeuer: Well first of all, I am a guy.
23:31  * Mdann52 interprets it differently - the girlfriend's friends have dragged her off...
23:31 < TeeTylerToe> that's what they all say
23:31 < Riley> Second, I wasn't an A student in English, sorry.
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23:32 < dfeuer> Brooke: that clearly has much larger ears than a unicorn. It must be a donkey.
23:32 < Riley> Secondly* See did it again
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23:34 < dfeuer> Sorry, Riley, if you weren't talking about yourself in the third person, I have no idea who "she" was.
23:34 < Brooke> dfeuer: A donkey in a party hat.
23:35 < dfeuer> Oh, I see now. Mdann52 must've gotten it right.
23:35 < Peter-C> https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/406271_484209004939988_1064352388_n.jpg
23:35 < dfeuer> The word "girlfriend" is too ambiguous.
23:35 < Riley> dfeuer: I wasn't talking to you someone who knew what I mean't so it didn't matter..
23:35 < dfeuer> Yeah.
23:35 < dfeuer> Riley: what's your native language?
23:35 < Riley> Brb gonna switch to my computer ._. damn phone
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23:41 < Riley> There. :)
23:43  * Peter-C lcisk Riley
23:43  * Peter-C runs
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23:44 < Mdann52> I've just had someone ask me for the log of a conversation on 20th April?!!!!?
23:45  * Riley is scared to know what "lcisk" means O.o 
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23:45 < BlastHardcheese> Mdann52: What, you don't record everything you've ever done on the internets?
23:46 < Mdann52> I wasn't even on the channel back in April.....
23:46 < Mdann52> It was -help......
23:47 < Mdann52> Oh well, they ran off
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