User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2012-07-12 through 2012-10-07

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Session Start: Thu Jul 12 21:00:07 2012
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
�03[21:00] * Now talking in #wikipedia-en
�03[21:00] * Topic is 'English Wikipedia | Status: Up | Channel guidelines: http://bit.ly/WP-IRC | Channel operator: Ask in #wikimedia-ops or say !ops <request> | For urgent admin help, say !admin <request>; for revdel, /join #wikipedia-en-revdel | No public logging | Cloak requests: http://bit.ly/IRCcloaks�'
�03[21:00] * Set by Logan_ on Fri Jul 06 18:24:09
[21:00] #wikipedia-en url is https://en.wikipedia.org/
�01[21:00] anonymous200 No such nick/channel
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[21:07] <Shirik> wtf is this wikipedia
[21:07] <Shirik> stop making up facts
[21:08] <Shirik> pluto can't have a moon, it is not a planet
[21:08] <LtNOWIS> dude wikipedia isnt reliable anyone can edit it
[21:09] <Shirik> oh is that how pluto became not a planet?
[21:09] <Shirik> somebody edited pluto's page and said "pluto's not a planet anymore"
[21:09] <Shirik> and then it wasn't
[21:10] <RogueMadman> Yes.
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[21:12] <Frood_> PLUTO IS A PLANET NO MATTER WHAT SCIENTISTS SAY!
[21:13] <Isarra> And what are you?
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[21:15] <RogueMadman> A cool frood.
[21:16] <Isarra> Of course.
[21:17] <Shirik> so because I was bored, I looked up the first wikipedia edit saying Pluto wasn't a planet anymore
[21:17] <Shirik> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pluto&diff=71591838&oldid=71588753
[21:17] <Shirik> I am now blind
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[21:19] <RogueMadman> :x
[21:19] <Isarra> >.<
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[21:20] <Isarra> Why can't huggle download the whitelist?
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[21:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Isarra maybe the bot is racist
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[21:23] <kim_bruning> goingk up
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[21:49] <Froodsleep> .away
�06[21:49] * SigmaWP hugs Froodsleep 
[21:49] <Shrek> Hugging a away nick is a federal crime SigmaWP.
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[21:51] <nprice> Hey guys, keep an eye on [[Carol Costello]] and [[Bill Nye]] - references to those pages just made Reddit so they're probably gonna see a bunch of vandalism for a bit
[21:53] <Isarra> Wikipedia needs more long random articles.
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[22:06] <SigmaWP> What's addihockey's nick today
[22:07] <Isarra> There are only 164 nicks to check...
[22:09] <SigmaWP> [Bazinga]: oke
[22:09] <SigmaWP> [Bazinga]: poke
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�06[22:26] * SigmaWP hugs zamorak 
�06[22:27] * zamorak casts flames of Zamorak on SigmaWP 
�06[22:27] * zamorak then hugs SigmaWP's ashes
�06[22:27] * SigmaWP uses protect from magic
[22:27] <zamorak> As another player, you don't get full immunity though :P
�06[22:27] * SigmaWP got lucky
[22:27] <zamorak> Pff
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[22:47] <Lubaf> Nobody's here, right?
[22:47] <Lubaf> So I can spam all I want, right?
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Session Close: Thu Jul 12 22:56:51 2012

Session Start: Thu Jul 12 23:33:08 2012
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
�03[23:33] * Now talking in #wikipedia-en
�03[23:33] * Topic is 'English Wikipedia | Status: Up | Channel guidelines: http://bit.ly/WP-IRC | Channel operator: Ask in #wikimedia-ops or say !ops <request> | For urgent admin help, say !admin <request>; for revdel, /join #wikipedia-en-revdel | No public logging | Cloak requests: http://bit.ly/IRCcloaks�'
�03[23:33] * Set by Logan_ on Fri Jul 06 18:24:09
[23:33] #wikipedia-en url is https://en.wikipedia.org/
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Session Time: Fri Jul 13 00:00:00 2012
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[00:36] <Riley_Huntley> Pine: Hello :)
[00:36] <Pine> Riley_Huntley: hi
[00:36] <Riley_Huntley> Pine: Willing to talk PM?
[00:36] <Pine> ok
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[00:54] <jubo2> http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com vs. http://kimjongildroppingthebass.tumblr.com
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[02:17] <Sp33dyphil> Hi guys
[02:21] <Sp33dyphil> ToAruShiroiNeko: poke
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[02:58] <jwales> gooby bobrayner petan ToBeFree Christoph_WMDE Odisha1 p858snake|l lubmil russavia jubo2 poko EyesIsMine Jmajeremy M132T003C RD chicocvenancio2 eir heatherw Bsadowski1 IShadowed OlEnglish BlastHardcheese Hamunaptra stwalkerster Tyler Y_Ichiro actress Antonorsi heinrich5991 WhiskerBiscuit Dagny Sk8rbluscat Internet13 Fluff|sleep HarryS turkuamk MC8 IRWolfie- schiste_ mareklug liberaldudette Jasper_Deng_away Brooke Furry
[02:58] <jwales> [04:57] Users on #wikipedia-en: mattbuck prometheus1809 Froodsleep Chappie-san Thehelpfulone ToAruShiroiNeko closedmouth localhost VunKruz yang2 Olipro lfaraone__ Headbomb|AfK sporous sam____ groupcat niko nalod heb Maccer suicidalzerg APexil Nix-7c0 Spitfire gry iggle_g auscompgeek guillom Ocaasi kylu dan64- nprice oona zz|ladder3|zz Venusaur Vito here QueenOfFrance kunwon1 Chris_G Nightmare SerajewelKS DoRD|away Corey MTCD|Away [Bazinga
[02:58] <jwales> [04:57] Users on #wikipedia-en: jayne Lydia_WMDE AntiSpamMeta Athanasius AlexZ_ ohai Kenneaal LoganCloud Frigotoni XJR-9 Jellies MJ94 Coolbill90 Reedy tommorris evilgohan2 enhydra YOLO|busy ikonia MartijnH Ottre Lcawte|Away Zed` brayden @ChanServ camerin crazytails Simon- DARTHSIDIOUS2 Schroeder Garnig neskaya Snowolf phuzion tomaw Barras marienz CerebrumBot FastLizard4 Elchzard Nietzsche lahwran SudoKing bburhans JeLuF MX80 woggle edward
[02:58] <jwales> [04:57] Users on #wikipedia-en: EDI slakr jeremyb aude Elfix nenolod AlertEye dhoss Shirik
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[02:58] <jwales> gooby bobrayner petan ToBeFree Christoph_WMDE Odisha1 p858snake|l lubmil russavia jubo2 poko EyesIsMine Jmajeremy M132T003C RD chicocvenancio2 eir heatherw Bsadowski1 IShadowed OlEnglish BlastHardcheese Hamunaptra stwalkerster Tyler Y_Ichiro actress Antonorsi heinrich5991 WhiskerBiscuit Dagny Sk8rbluscat Internet13 Fluff|sleep HarryS turkuamk MC8 IRWolfie- schiste_ mareklug liberaldudette Jasper_Deng_away Brooke Furry
[02:58] <jwales> [04:57] Users on #wikipedia-en: mattbuck prometheus1809 Froodsleep Chappie-san Thehelpfulone ToAruShiroiNeko closedmouth localhost VunKruz yang2 Olipro lfaraone__ Headbomb|AfK sporous sam____ groupcat niko nalod heb Maccer suicidalzerg APexil Nix-7c0 Spitfire gry iggle_g auscompgeek guillom Ocaasi kylu dan64- nprice oona zz|ladder3|zz Venusaur Vito here QueenOfFrance kunwon1 Chris_G Nightmare SerajewelKS DoRD|away Corey MTCD|Away [Bazinga
[02:58] <jwales> [04:57] Users on #wikipedia-en: jayne Lydia_WMDE AntiSpamMeta Athanasius AlexZ_ ohai Kenneaal LoganCloud Frigotoni XJR-9 Jellies MJ94 Coolbill90 Reedy tommorris evilgohan2 enhydra YOLO|busy ikonia MartijnH Ottre Lcawte|Away Zed` brayden @ChanServ camerin crazytails Simon- DARTHSIDIOUS2 Schroeder Garnig neskaya Snowolf phuzion tomaw Barras marienz CerebrumBot FastLizard4 Elchzard Nietzsche lahwran SudoKing bburhans JeLuF MX80 woggle edward
[02:58] <jwales> [04:57] Users on #wikipedia-en: EDI slakr jeremyb aude Elfix nenolod AlertEye dhoss Shirik
[02:58] <jwales> gooby bobrayner petan ToBeFree Christoph_WMDE Odisha1 p858snake|l lubmil russavia jubo2 poko EyesIsMine Jmajeremy M132T003C RD chicocvenancio2 eir heatherw Bsadowski1 IShadowed OlEnglish BlastHardcheese Hamunaptra stwalkerster Tyler Y_Ichiro actress Antonorsi heinrich5991 WhiskerBiscuit Dagny Sk8rbluscat Internet13 Fluff|sleep HarryS turkuamk MC8 IRWolfie- schiste_ mareklug liberaldudette Jasper_Deng_away Brooke Furry
�03[02:58] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Spitfire
[02:58] <jwales> [04:57] Users on #wikipedia-en: mattbuck prometheus1809 Froodsleep Chappie-san Thehelpfulone ToAruShiroiNeko closedmouth localhost VunKruz yang2 Olipro lfaraone__ Headbomb|AfK sporous sam____ groupcat niko nalod heb Maccer suicidalzerg APexil Nix-7c0 Spitfire gry iggle_g auscompgeek guillom Ocaasi kylu dan64- nprice oona zz|ladder3|zz Venusaur Vito here QueenOfFrance kunwon1 Chris_G Nightmare SerajewelKS DoRD|away Corey MTCD|Away [Bazinga
[02:58] <jwales> [04:57] Users on #wikipedia-en: jayne Lydia_WMDE AntiSpamMeta Athanasius AlexZ_ ohai Kenneaal LoganCloud Frigotoni XJR-9 Jellies MJ94 Coolbill90 Reedy tommorris evilgohan2 enhydra YOLO|busy ikonia MartijnH Ottre Lcawte|Away Zed` brayden @ChanServ camerin crazytails Simon- DARTHSIDIOUS2 Schroeder Garnig neskaya Snowolf phuzion tomaw Barras marienz CerebrumBot FastLizard4 Elchzard Nietzsche lahwran SudoKing bburhans JeLuF MX80 woggle edward
[02:58] <jwales> [04:57] Users on #wikipedia-en: EDI slakr jeremyb aude Elfix nenolod AlertEye dhoss Shirik
[02:58] <jwales> gooby bobrayner petan ToBeFree Christoph_WMDE Odisha1 p858snake|l lubmil russavia jubo2 poko EyesIsMine Jmajeremy M132T003C RD chicocvenancio2 eir heatherw Bsadowski1 IShadowed OlEnglish BlastHardcheese Hamunaptra stwalkerster Tyler Y_Ichiro actress Antonorsi heinrich5991 WhiskerBiscuit Dagny Sk8rbluscat Internet13 Fluff|sleep HarryS turkuamk MC8 IRWolfie- schiste_ mareklug liberaldudette Jasper_Deng_away Brooke Furry
[02:58] <jwales> [04:57] Users on #wikipedia-en: mattbuck prometheus1809 Froodsleep Chappie-san Thehelpfulone ToAruShiroiNeko closedmouth localhost VunKruz yang2 Olipro lfaraone__ Headbomb|AfK sporous sam____ groupcat niko nalod heb Maccer suicidalzerg APexil Nix-7c0 Spitfire gry iggle_g auscompgeek guillom Ocaasi kylu dan64- nprice oona zz|ladder3|zz Venusaur Vito here QueenOfFrance kunwon1 Chris_G Nightmare SerajewelKS DoRD|away Corey MTCD|Away [Bazinga
[02:58] <jwales> [04:57] Users on #wikipedia-en: jayne Lydia_WMDE AntiSpamMeta Athanasius AlexZ_ ohai Kenneaal LoganCloud Frigotoni XJR-9 Jellies MJ94 Coolbill90 Reedy tommorris evilgohan2 enhydra YOLO|busy ikonia MartijnH Ottre Lcawte|Away Zed` brayden @ChanServ camerin crazytails Simon- DARTHSIDIOUS2 Schroeder Garnig neskaya Snowolf phuzion tomaw Barras marienz CerebrumBot FastLizard4 Elchzard Nietzsche lahwran SudoKing bburhans JeLuF MX80 woggle edward
[02:58] <jwales> [04:57] Users on #wikipedia-en: EDI slakr jeremyb aude Elfix nenolod AlertEye dhoss Shirik
[02:58] <IShadowed> ..
[02:58] <jwales> gooby bobrayner petan ToBeFree Christoph_WMDE Odisha1 p858snake|l lubmil russavia jubo2 poko EyesIsMine Jmajeremy M132T003C RD chicocvenancio2 eir heatherw Bsadowski1 IShadowed OlEnglish BlastHardcheese Hamunaptra stwalkerster Tyler Y_Ichiro actress Antonorsi heinrich5991 WhiskerBiscuit Dagny Sk8rbluscat Internet13 Fluff|sleep HarryS turkuamk MC8 IRWolfie- schiste_ mareklug liberaldudette Jasper_Deng_away Brooke Furry
�03[02:58] * Spitfire sets mode: +b *!*@13.sub-174-229-64.myvzw.com
�03[02:58] * jwales was kicked by Spitfire (jwales�)
[02:58] <IShadowed> ummm
�06[02:58] * Nightmare hides behind Spitfire.
�03[02:58] * ChanServ sets mode: -o Spitfire
�06[02:58] * IShadowed snuggles Spitfire 
[02:58] <Y_Ichiro> ...
[02:58] <ToBeFree> nice. Thanks.
�06[02:59] * Spitfire snuggles Nightmare (sorry IShadowed =p)
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[02:59] <Y_Ichiro> jimbo wales?
[02:59] <Nightmare> :(
[02:59] <IShadowed> :O
[02:59] <p858snake|l> Y_Ichiro: not quiet
[02:59] <Y_Ichiro> i didn't know he comes on irc
[02:59] <IShadowed> No loves for Ishy
[02:59] <IShadowed> meaaaan
[02:59] <bobrayner> hmmm
[03:00] <Spitfire> Aw, sowwy. :p
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[03:00] <Nightmare> Spitfire: die
[03:00] <Nightmare> :(
[03:00] <Spitfire> :(
[03:01] <Mh7kJ> what happened? o_O
[03:01] <Nightmare> derp
[03:01] <Nightmare> derp happened
[03:01] <Mh7kJ> :/
[03:03] <IShadowed> So are any of you folks at WM?
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[03:35] <Frigotoni> Was I pinged?
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[03:35] <Furry> now you were Frigotoni|away
[03:35] <Furry> also, no, it was a pingspammer
[03:35] <Frigotoni|away> ah, derp?
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[04:14] <Isarra> Are the arbs commonly abused?
[04:15] <Furry> yes
�06[04:15] * Furry beats the arbs everyday
[04:15] <Isarra> O_o
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[04:23] <closedmouth> is that what you call it?
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[04:43] <Anna_Frodesiak> is it just my imagination or are my replies at my own talk triggering "You have new messages (last change)." ??
[04:43] <wctaiwan> didn't happen to me today.
[04:43] <wctaiwan> I wonder if you-know-what is messing with it.
[04:44] <Anna_Frodesiak> what?
[04:44] <Anna_Frodesiak> you know who? or what?
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[04:45] <wctaiwan> the great flaming barrier thingy
[04:45] <wctaiwan> hey Risker.
[04:45] <Anna_Frodesiak> oh
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[04:45] <Anna_Frodesiak> can't image it's that
[04:45] <wctaiwan> :(
[04:45] <wctaiwan> well yeah, unlikely.
[04:45] <Anna_Frodesiak> but my isp is stealing from me again
[04:46] <Anna_Frodesiak> they have special software just like canadian banks
[04:46] <wctaiwan> You mean rightfully sharing the resources of a comrade?
[04:46] <Anna_Frodesiak> haahaha
[04:46] <Anna_Frodesiak> their software slows down the connection after a while hoping you don't notice
[04:46] <jubo2> Commiemism is gweat just as long as the cost to copy stuff is zero
[04:46] <Anna_Frodesiak> they buy by the bit from up north, and sell by the year
[04:46] <wctaiwan> heh. I need to go eat dinner. Laters.
[04:47] <Anna_Frodesiak> laters
[04:47] <Anna_Frodesiak> man man chi
[04:47] <Isarra> Hello, Anna_Frodesiak.
[04:47] <Isarra> I'm told you're lovely.
[04:47] <Anna_Frodesiak> hi there
�06[04:47] * Isarra offers a fish.
[04:47] <Anna_Frodesiak> i am lovely
[04:47] <Isarra> Awesome.
[04:47] <Isarra> I'm not.
[04:47] <Anna_Frodesiak> yummers
[04:47] <Anna_Frodesiak> :)
[04:48] <Anna_Frodesiak> why not? bad hair day?
[04:48] <Isarra> My hair is always bad.
[04:49] <Isarra> I make up for it for pretending that I meant for it to be like that, which is pretty easy because I'm too lazy to mean anything with it.
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[04:50] <Anna_Frodesiak> :)
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�06[04:50] * Isarra looms overhead.
�06[04:51] * Isarra falls off her ledge.
[04:51] <Anna_Frodesiak> :)
[04:51] <Anna_Frodesiak> what's the coi template again?
[04:51] <Anna_Frodesiak> for userpage
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[04:52] <Isarra> uw-coi
[04:52] <Isarra> Or something.
[04:53] <Anna_Frodesiak> thanks :)
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[04:58] <Anna_Frodesiak> so Isarra, whatcha working on?
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[05:01] <Isarra> Me? Work?
[05:01] <Isarra> What?
[05:01] <Guerillero> well I am here
[05:02] <Guerillero> it is exciting but frightening at the same time
[05:04] <tommorris> srsly? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limnophila_schranki
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[05:07] <Isarra> Whee!
[05:08] <Guerillero> lolz
[05:08] <Isarra> tommorris: O_o
[05:08] <closedmouth> {{copy to wikispecies}}
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[05:09] <Guerillero> bbl
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[05:12] <Anna_Frodesiak> i guess you saw the ani thread on that
[05:12] <Anna_Frodesiak> won't communicate
[05:12] <Anna_Frodesiak> just does that and leaves
[05:12] <Anna_Frodesiak> that's from the page i started
[05:13] <Anna_Frodesiak> i put lots into finding those and he just stubs them and walks
[05:13] <Anna_Frodesiak> half a taxobox and no text content
[05:13] <Anna_Frodesiak> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Images
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[05:17] <actress> hello
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[05:17] <Furry> ohai Guerillero ;)
[05:17] <Guerillero> ohai
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[05:22] <Qcoder00> {{coord}} is ignoring scale param
[05:23] <Qcoder00> See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derwent_Mouth
[05:23] <Qcoder00> This should zoom in quite close but doesn't
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[05:25] <Qcoder00> Can someone please tell me where I've made an error?
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[05:50] <foks> Good morning USA!
[05:51] <wctaiwan> good morning foks.
[05:51] <harej> good morning scotland
[05:51] <wctaiwan> good morning Mr. Hare.
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[05:51] <wctaiwan> more socks.
[05:51] <foks> harej, :3
[05:52] <foks> wctaiwan, hai!
[05:52] <jubo2> g'morning to everyone else but Bashar Al-Assad
[05:52] <foks> I should probably think about going to GWU soon.
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[05:56] <Apheori> Why does windows suck so much?
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�06[05:57] * wctaiwan smokes a pipe filled with proprietary tobacco
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[05:57] <harej> Sure many blends of tobacco are proprietary.
[05:57] <harej> They don't naturally end up with formaldehyde, you know.
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[06:25] <Apheori> Where is the page for complaining about aftv5?
[06:25] <Apheori> There is a page, right?
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[06:27] <Guest24534> EVERYONE
[06:27] <Guest24534> Get off IRC and go make articles, naow!
[06:27] <Guest24534> run run run run run
[06:27] <wctaiwan> Guest24534: behave.
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[06:28] <Peter-C> I am excited!
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[06:28] <wctaiwan> clearly
[06:28] <Peter-C> 4 million is so close!
[06:28] <wctaiwan> Apheori has something she wants to say to you, Peter-C.
[06:28] <wctaiwan> who cares >_>
[06:29] <Peter-C> :o
[06:29] <Apheori> Peter-C: You're a dork.
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[06:29] <Peter-C> :(
[06:29] <Peter-C> :(((
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[06:32] <Guerillero> he seemed normal to me
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[06:53] <YE> 96 articles left
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[06:53] <YE> before 4 Mil
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[07:10] <meno25wiki> 4 million articles
[07:10] <AnonDiss> Happy 4 million.
[07:10] <YE> yep
[07:10] <Zil> Which one it is ?
[07:10] <the-wub> woo!
[07:10] <wctaiwan> PARTAY.
[07:10] <YE> came very close
[07:10] <wctaiwan> actually, who the hell cares :P
[07:11] <Zil> wctaiwan: just for fun and for the media.
[07:11] <Zil> We need to pick one.
[07:11] <wctaiwan> Zil: wait till CSDs push it below 4mil again :p
[07:11] <Zil> ;D
[07:11] <tommorris> wctaiwan: I've been banging on the CSDs
[07:12] <tommorris> so, what's the four millionth?
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[07:12] <Zil> There is no bot that count it ?
[07:12] <Frood> i'll find it :P
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[07:13] <Frood> If I counted right, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Izbat_Al_Borg&redirect=no&rcid=517163218 is the 4 millionth article.
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[07:14] <meno25wiki> this is my article
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[07:14] <Frood> counted twice, that's the 4 millionth article.
[07:14] <meno25wiki> i am so happy
[07:14] <Zil> Frood: Nice one.
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[07:14] <Zil> COngratz meno25wiki.
[07:15] <YE> congrats
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[07:15] <YE> I tried getting the 4 million article
[07:15] <YE> but I failed
[07:15] <YE> I came close though
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[07:15] <wctaiwan> well, I'm sure all the non-enwiki-ers are damn pleased right now :p
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[07:15] <meno25wiki> thank you
[07:16] <Zil> \o/
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[07:19] <ragesoss> Hey folks. Have we identified the 4M article yet?
[07:19] <Ed17> YE: I was 20 off
[07:19] <YE> how did you find out that that is the 4M article
[07:19] <Ed17> ragesoss: Frood says it's Izbat Al Borg
[07:20] <Frood> Someone else said http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_State_Highway_50
[07:20] <Frood> But I'm pretty sure it's the first one :P
[07:20] <rschen7754> i've heard 3 different things
[07:20] <Zil> We don"t care...
[07:21] <Zil> It depends when you count.
[07:21] <Zil> We just need to pick one.
[07:21] <Isarra> Delete a bunch!
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[07:21] <Zil> The egyptian governat is good for me.
[07:22] <geniice> so what was the 4 millionth?
[07:22] <tommorris> geniice: well, it's either [[Izbat Al Borg]] or [[Idaho State Highway 50]]
[07:23] <geniice> hmm
[07:23] <tommorris> I left a thing on Izbat Al Borg talk page congratulating
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[07:35] <geniice> some dead end desert town in egypt?
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[07:38] <geniice> Jordanhill railway station is starting to look very notable
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[07:41] <jairodz> 4 MILLION! :-)
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[07:44] <Qcoder00> LOL - Only OpenStreetMap  would br cazy enough to map Area51 from Bing -!
[07:45] <Qcoder00> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.2428&lon=-115.8068&zoom=14&layers=M
[07:45] <Qcoder00> Hunt the Helicopters ;)
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[07:47] <russavia> bidgee
[07:47] <russavia> you about?
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[07:56] <Sven_Manguard> earwig is in the room but not on IRC
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[07:57] <actress> huh?
[07:57] <Sven_Manguard> actress: bot approval group
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[07:58] <actress> aha okey
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[08:05] <Sven_Manguard> Hey Earwig
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[08:06] <Earwig> \o Sven_Manguard
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[08:12] <BobTheWikipedian> rise and shine....
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[08:26] <actress> ;P
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[08:50] <BobTheWikipedian> actress = evaactress?
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[08:56] <BobTheWikipedian> :| we ought to be celebrating! wikipedia has hit 4 million edits and counting this morning
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[08:56] <BobTheWikipedian> *articles...not edits
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[08:58] <foxj> oops
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[08:58] <Frood> BobTheWikipedian: Everyone is at Wikimania :P
[08:58] <foks> YAY WIKIMANIA.
[08:58] <Fluffernutter> YAY WIKIMANIA WIFI
[08:59] <BobTheWikipedian> :P
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[09:07] <Pharos> i just did my bit for article 4 milllion
[09:07] <Pharos> add something here:
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[09:08] <Pharos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izbat_Al_Burj
[09:08] <wctaiwan> get it to FA!
[09:09] <Pharos> we're trying :P
[09:09] <wctaiwan> good luck :p
[09:09] <wctaiwan> meanwhile, I shall go to bed.
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[09:28] <Moe_Epsilon> o_o
[09:30] <BobTheWikipedian> good night, taiwan
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[09:58] <mysterytrey> BobTheWikipedian: On https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Trading_card_game/Action_plan/Phase_2:Cards/Individual_card_proposals :
[09:58] <mysterytrey> Why is there a whole copy of the page trout instead of just a trout?
[09:59] <BobTheWikipedian> haha
[09:59] <BobTheWikipedian> oops
[09:59] <BobTheWikipedian> trout me
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[10:00] <BobTheWikipedian> wow...that was...over a year ago. i can't believe no one noticed!
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[10:04] <BobTheWikipedian> actually...mysterytrey...looks to me as though the wp:trout got corrupted
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[10:04] <BobTheWikipedian> which is how the problem didn't surface until now
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[10:05] <mysterytrey> I noticed that there was {{wp:trout}} tag on there when it is suggested that one just uses {{trout}}
[10:05] <BobTheWikipedian> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWhacking_with_a_Wet_Trout&diff=499392223&oldid=499261802
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[10:08] <BobTheWikipedian> yeah looks like the page has undergone quite a bit of revision since i posted the trout: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWhacking_with_a_Wet_Trout&diff=501890111&oldid=405413776
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[10:09] <BobTheWikipedian> so back then it would have transcluded as simply: <includeonly><imagemap>File:Rainbow trout.png rect 16 4 270 293 [[Wikipedia:Whacking with a Wet Trout|To join the secret cabal follow me!]] desc none</imagemap></includeonly>
[10:10] <BobTheWikipedian> oh... and <span style="font-size: 250%; color: Red;">'''''Whack!'''''</span></div>
[10:11] <nitely03_> I'll just switch it to {{trout}}, but in an hour or so.  You can do it though.  I wonder how many other trouts have had that problem.
[10:12] <BobTheWikipedian> indeed
[10:12] <BobTheWikipedian> i'll switch that one for now
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[10:12] <BobTheWikipedian> interesting...the old trout had an invitation included to join some kind of cabal
[10:13] <BobTheWikipedian> i wonder what that could be all about
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[10:13] <Frood> Does anyone here have Terraria?
[10:14] <BobTheWikipedian> i have *a* terrarium
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[10:16] <Frood> I'm wondering if I should buy it.
[10:16] <Frood> $2.49, but it doesn't look all that fun
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�06[10:16] * BobTheWikipedian just remembered he does have terraria
[10:16] <Frood> I've already spent $10 in the summer sale, I only have $10 left :P
[10:16] <BobTheWikipedian> i've got two
[10:17] <BobTheWikipedian> $2.49 for a terrarium?
[10:17] <Frood> ooh, my microphone is supposed to come today
[10:17] <Frood> BobTheWikipedian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraria
[10:17] <BobTheWikipedian> are you at a garage sale?
[10:17] <BobTheWikipedian> oh
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[10:18] <Frood> Steam Summer Sale.
[10:18] <Frood> dammit, the store is 503ing D:
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[10:19] <BobTheWikipedian> The server is currently unavailable (because it is overloaded or down for maintenance).[2] Generally, this is a temporary state.
[10:19] <foks> ah, steam.
[10:19] <foks> so shit.
[10:19] <BobTheWikipedian> steam has a sale?
[10:20] <BobTheWikipedian> what's on sale?
[10:20] <foks> games I presume
�06[10:20] * BobTheWikipedian socks foks
[10:20] <BobTheWikipedian> i mean. "fox in socks!"
[10:20] <Frood> BobTheWikipedian: http://store.steampowered.com/
[10:21] <foks> \o/
[10:21] <actress> ^^
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[10:21] <BobTheWikipedian> looks like a good sale frood
[10:21] <Frood> I've bought Garry's Mod and a couple in-game items
[10:22] <BobTheWikipedian> just kidding. i got a 503, too
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[10:23] <Frood> well shit, now gamestop is offering a trade-in bonus for steam wallet credit
[10:23] <Frood> i should trade a couple games i have in...
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[10:29] <Frood> what the hell is this. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=2063448&sku=L49-1002
[10:29] <Frood> a mouse and scanner combined...?
[10:29] <foks> who cares
[10:29] <foks> :3
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[10:30] <actress> ^_o
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[10:40] <BobTheWikipedian> o_0
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[10:42] <actress> o_O
[10:42] <BobTheWikipedian> i love the stats...
[10:42] <actress> huh
[10:42] <BobTheWikipedian> "mouse - corded" "laser" "1200 dpi" "usb"
[10:43] <BobTheWikipedian> 1200 dpi just doesn't belong on a mouse
[10:43] <actress> oki
[10:43] <actress> ?
[10:43] <BobTheWikipedian> frood are you buying one?
[10:44] <BobTheWikipedian> "Scans up to A3 size paper; can scan documents of various sizes"
[10:46] <BobTheWikipedian> oh, frood left
[10:46] <actress> any icelandic here??
[10:47] <BobTheWikipedian> try #wikipedia-is
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[10:47] <BobTheWikipedian> oops i led
[10:48] <BobTheWikipedian> *lied
[10:48] <BobTheWikipedian> that's not a language
[10:48] <actress> yes
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[10:48] <BobTheWikipedian> not one with an irc channel anyway
[10:48] <actress> oki
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[10:48] <BobTheWikipedian> maybe the icelanders don't like irc :/
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[10:49] <actress> they do
[10:49] <actress> !
[10:49] <BobTheWikipedian> hmmmm. maybe they are all at #php
[10:49] <BobTheWikipedian> php is icelandic, right?
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[10:49] <actress> idk
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[10:53] <actress> im looking for celebrity chat on irc
[10:53] <actress> plz help with it
[10:54] <BobTheWikipedian> fluffernutter is a celebrity :)
[10:55] <Fluffernutter> wha?
[10:55] <Fluffernutter> BobTheWikipedian works for the foundation, which means he's much more important
[10:55] <BobTheWikipedian> eva's looking for a celebrity to chat with
[10:55] <Gfoley4> LoganCloud is one too
[10:55] <Fluffernutter> mmhm
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[10:56] <Gfoley4> although he's normally away, as he's always running from reporters!
[10:56] <BobTheWikipedian> haha
[10:56] <BobTheWikipedian> Venusaur is a celebrated pokemon
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[10:59] <BobTheWikipedian> of course...i haven't met him and anticipate him using his Solar Beam on me now
[11:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ?
[11:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> what?
[11:02] <Fluffernutter> are you geeking out over pokemon?
[11:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that was a polar beam
[11:02] <BobTheWikipedian> you have never noticed there is a venusaur in the room?
[11:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter I suspect you may be a pokemon
�06[11:02] * BobTheWikipedian points at the venusaur in the room
[11:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> not a wild one tho
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[11:06] <mysterytrey> BobTheWikipedian: on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Trading_card_game/Action_plan/Phase_2:Cards/Individual_card_proposals#Auto-confirmed_.2825_cJ.29 It looks like we agreed on a phrase, so should it be moved to approved cards for illustration?
[11:07] <mysterytrey> *we meaning the Wikiproject, not me at all
[11:07] <BobTheWikipedian> yup
[11:07] <BobTheWikipedian> welcome to the wikiproject
[11:07] <BobTheWikipedian> go for it
[11:07] <BobTheWikipedian> and if you know how to do vector graphics, feel free to illustrate...
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[11:08] <mysterytrey> I'll look into that.
[11:08] <BobTheWikipedian> inkscape is best for our purposes
[11:08] <BobTheWikipedian> you'll find instructions at wptcg.wikia.com
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[11:09] <mysterytrey> k
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[11:14] <mysterytrey> BobTheWikipedian:You said that you remember a mainspace article called "Poem by a Wikipedian".  Do you remember if any of the defenses said by article creator would be usable for a quote?
[11:15] <BobTheWikipedian> hmmm. can i get back to you on that? delaying my lunch for another 45 minutes
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[11:16] <mysterytrey> :)
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[11:17] <BobTheWikipedian> i'm not sure i'd be able to justify searching for a quote on a deleted article for a trading card on company time, even with a job that requires me to have a close community relationship ;)
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[11:19] <Apheori> I hate this computer.
[11:20] <mysterytrey> Why?
[11:20] <Matthew_> Apheori: At least you have one, I lost mine for about three weeks XD
[11:20] <Fluffernutter> why not?
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[11:20] <Matthew_> Hard drive failure.
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[11:22] <Athyria> I have two.
[11:22] <Athyria> This one is a terrible laptop.
[11:23] <BobTheWikipedian> always keep a spare OS installation handy that you can use to access files off the master.
[11:23] <mysterytrey> BobTheWikipedian: I found this on m:Bash, would it be a decent enough quote to suggest it for the "poem by a wikipedian" card? <Keegan>  I was aware of your poetry and puns, but not of your ability to state the obvious
[11:24] <BobTheWikipedian> haha
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[11:24] <BobTheWikipedian> hmmm not sure it applies here but it's funny nonetheless
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[11:25] <mysterytrey> It involves poetry.  I was just asking if it has to be related to seeing the actual poem, but it does seem likely something one might say in response to it.
[11:26] <IRWolfie-> arg, lag is back
[11:26] <BobTheWikipedian> something poetic might be appropriate
[11:26] <BobTheWikipedian> I seem to remember there being a poem in the original version of [[WP:POETRYISALWAYSWRONG]]
[11:27] <mysterytrey> So it doesn't have to be something that was about the actual article.
[11:27] <mysterytrey> I'll check the revisions.
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[11:28] <BobTheWikipedian> no...the "bad articles" we actually prefer to be hypothetical representations of bad articles...we don't want to patronize anyone like we did with willy on wheels
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[11:28] <Demiurge1000> I patronised a local snack bar until it closed down.
[11:28] <BobTheWikipedian> haha
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[11:30] <Shearonink> Lag is back and we're gonna be in trouble....
[11:30] <Rcsprinter> what lag?
[11:30] <IRWolfie-> watchlist lag
[11:30] <IRWolfie-> general lag as well it seems now
[11:31] <IRWolfie-> (same problems as before)
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[11:33] <Shearonink> S-l-o-w.....
[11:33] <Shearonink> "changes newer than 932 seconds may not appear on list"
[11:34] <BobTheWikipedian> changes newer than 1,059 seconds may not appear
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[11:34] <Shearonink> server is backlogged
[11:34] <Shearonink> heh
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[11:36] <mysterytrey> So I guess I will suggest it.  However, toolserver says there are under 30 watchers, so, we'll see if people are still interested.
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[11:38] <Rcsprinter> 1306 seconds. why does it grow?
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[11:38] <BobTheWikipedian> mysterytrey the problem we ran into is everyone who was involved ironically got a job or something
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[11:39] <mysterytrey> huh?
[11:39] <BobTheWikipedian> lag's gone
[11:40] <Shearonink> re the lag, now I'm getting the standard Error/Servers experiencing technical problem message
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[11:40] <Shearonink> and now not.  yay.
[11:42] <mysterytrey> So most of the people interested in TCG got a job then?
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[11:42] <BobTheWikipedian> correct
[11:42] <BobTheWikipedian> at least, i assume so
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[11:43] <BobTheWikipedian> i know hi878 mentioned real world things, but didn't specify, and everyone else kinda went "poof" too
[11:43] <BobTheWikipedian> all about the time i got a job
[11:44] <BobTheWikipedian> but who knows, maybe everyone got evicted and has no internet
[11:44] <BobTheWikipedian> i'm just assuming good faith ;)
[11:44] <Shearonink> and lag is back... "Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 1,524 seconds may not appear in this list."
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[11:45] <BobTheWikipedian> odd, i only have 1,425 seconds
[11:45] <BobTheWikipedian> your lag is slower :D
[11:46] <BobTheWikipedian> 1,370 seconds now
[11:46] <BobTheWikipedian> it's decreasing :D
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[11:47] <Rcsprinter> 1299 secs
[11:47] <russavia> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Michael_D._Higgins_-_Caricature.jpg
[11:47] <Shearonink> BobTheWikipedian: I"m just odd that's all.
�06[11:47] * BobTheWikipedian does a quick donation pitch. "All, the Wikimedia Foundation needs money to buy proper hardware and employ individuals who can best manage that hardware. Please donate today."
[11:49] <Shearonink> where to donate though bob, those helpful & tasteful begging/donating links are gone from the top of WP pages.....
[11:49] <Shearonink> my lag is now done to 1249 seconds
[11:50] <BobTheWikipedian> http://donate.wikipedia.org/ should get you there
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[11:51] <mysterytrey> Oh, but there's still a link on the sidebar, right over the wikipedia shop link.
[11:51] <BobTheWikipedian> indeed
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[11:52] <BobTheWikipedian> tinier link...might be harder to click for those with less mouse dexterity
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[11:53] <Shearonink> my mouse doesn't have dexterity
[11:54] <BobTheWikipedian> frood's has a 120dpi scanner
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[11:54] <BobTheWikipedian> 1200
[11:54] <Y_Ichiro> so who won the 4 million article pool?
[11:54] <BobTheWikipedian> Meno25
[11:55] <Shearonink> wait....there was a pool? and someone won something?
[11:55] <BobTheWikipedian> [[:ar:User:Meno25]]
[11:55] <Shearonink> phooey
[11:55] <BobTheWikipedian> deserves a really big barnstar
[11:55] <Shearonink> my lag is now down to 921 seconds
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[11:57] <mysterytrey> 846 seconds for me
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[11:57] <SigmaWP> [11:57:27] �<�Helpmebot�>�� SigmaWP: the maximum replication lag is 824 second(s). (Parts of the wiki may appear to be 824 second(s) out-of-date).
[11:57] <SigmaWP> And hello to the rest of you
[11:58] <BobTheWikipedian> looks like Meno25 won several things: an original barnstar, autopatrolled user access level, and philippe beaudette's words in his email inbox
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[12:00] <Shearonink> WP swag
[12:00] <BlastHardcheese> free dinner with jimbo
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[12:01] <BobTheWikipedian> he got those, too?
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[12:04] <Shearonink> free dinner...
[12:04] <SigmaWP> I wonder what Jimbo sounds like
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[12:07] <Pharos> gilbert godfried
[12:07] <BlastHardcheese> mmm, fried god
[12:07] <Pharos> maybe james earl jones on a good day
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[12:11] <Mrmatiko> SigmaWP, you can hear him at wikimania 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVR82uP_f6Q&list=UUZ8iNP1OE_ppqlGGEo5sYTg&index=31&feature=plpp_video
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[12:12] <SigmaWP> Earwig: THERE YOU ARE
[12:12] <SigmaWP> TRAITOR
[12:12] <SigmaWP> Mrmatiko: Thanks!
[12:14] <Mrmatiko> SigmaWP, no problem. I'm just waiting for Wikimania 2012 videos to be made available somewhere
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[12:20] <mysterytrey> So do mice work in 2012 then?
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[12:23] <actress> 2012
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[12:34] <BarkingFish> mysterytrey, no, they all sit around in cages eating food, drinking water, and sleeping most of the day
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[12:34] <mysterytrey> Sorry, I was watching the Wikimania 2011 closing ceremony.
[12:35] <SigmaWP> me too
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[12:39] <Shearonink> This article is so sad.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogical_relationships_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States
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[12:41] <BarkingFish> Is anyone here good at puzzles?  I just found one on Y!A, and it's got me utterly stumped - if the answer is something british, I've sure never heard of it.
[12:41] <BarkingFish> It's one of those "my first is in blah and also in...." types of things.
[12:41] <mattbuck> ok
[12:42] <BarkingFish> "my first is in Garden, but not in House. my second is in Gerbil, but not in Mouse. My third is in Drizzle, but not in Snow, my fourth is in Door and also in Window."
[12:42] <BarkingFish> "My fifth is in Lemon and also in Melon. my sixth is in Jailer, and also in Felon.  My whole is a thing through which you sieve earth. I hope that the answer, will give you some mirth."
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[12:43] <Shearonink> is it giving the actual letters from the words?
[12:43] <mattbuck> one assumes so
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[12:43] <BarkingFish> basically you have to find the word based on letters found in those clues
[12:45] <Shearonink> Sieve of Erastosthenes
[12:45] <Shearonink> ?
[12:46] <BarkingFish> ok, either that was a guess or you don't quite understand how these work... :)
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[12:46] <Shearonink> heh
[12:46] <Shearonink> guesses aen't alwasy bad
[12:46] <mattbuck> well the foirth letter is O, and sixth is L or E
[12:47] <BarkingFish> What it boils down to is this:  It is a 6 letter word - following the 6 clues, you have to take a letter that matches the clue (it appears in one word, but not the other)
[12:47] <BarkingFish> the last clue gives you an idea of what you're looking for.
[12:47] <mattbuck> looking through those options, the only one which stands out is school
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[12:47] <BarkingFish> you don't sieve earth through a school though :P
[12:48] <mattbuck> http://www.a2zwordfinder.com/cgi-bin/wordfinder.cgi?SearchType=Crossword&Pattern=%3F%3F%3FO%3Fe&Search=Find+Crosswords http://www.a2zwordfinder.com/cgi-bin/wordfinder.cgi?SearchType=Crossword&Pattern=%3F%3F%3FO%3Fl&Search=Find+Crosswords
[12:49] <mattbuck> oops, I missed a d
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[12:49] <BarkingFish> i'mma gonna go a cheating. Google, here I come :P
[12:49] <mattbuck> GARDN GRBIL DRIZZLE OD LEMON EL
[12:50] <mattbuck> hmm
[12:50] <mattbuck> I think the answer's riddle
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[12:50] <BarkingFish> mattbuck, I think you could be right. I just googled off garden sieve, and one of the entries on ebay which pops up is a garden riddle.
[12:51] <BarkingFish> That's cheeky. The answer to the riddle, is riddle.
[12:51] <Shearonink> yay
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[12:51] <Shearonink> we iz smart
[12:51] <mattbuck> hooray for crossword solving sites
�06[12:51] * mattbuck is still pissed bureaucratese doesn't fit
[12:51] <BarkingFish> lol
[12:52] <Shearonink> "one of the entries on ebay which pops up is a garden riddle"?
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[12:52] <BarkingFish> http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=garden+sieve
[12:52] <BarkingFish> second entry down
[12:53] <BarkingFish> Parasene Metal Green Garden Riddle/Sieve 1/4" 14" Dia
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[12:59] <Sven_Manguard> Snowolf ping
[12:59] <Snowolf> Sven_Manguard: pong
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�06[13:00] * Fluffernutter huggles Snowolf
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[13:00] <foks> Hello!
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[13:03] <TBloemink> HA Snowolf
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[13:03] <TBloemink> and QueenOfFrance
[13:03] <BobTheWikipedian> barkingfish...your riddle reminds me of one i haven't solved yet that appears in quest for glory ii: trial by fire
[13:03] <BarkingFish> post it up, BobTheWikipedian - the guys here are smart enough to give you a hand with it
[13:04] <BobTheWikipedian> lemme see if i can find it
[13:04] <BobTheWikipedian> aha i have it written down
[13:05] <BobTheWikipedian> "My first is the first. My second is the last. Next comes Myself, Then back to the end, And beginning again."
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[13:05] <BobTheWikipedian> my best guess so far is "weekend"
[13:05] <BobTheWikipedian> but your riddle is giving me a new perspective...it might have letters invovled
[13:05] <BobTheWikipedian> *involved
[13:06] <BobTheWikipedian> i haven't checked yet to see if "weekend" is the right answer...been awhile since i've played and i thought of that one day while not playing :D
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[13:07] <BobTheWikipedian> i guess if letters are involved...might be something like "aziza"
[13:07] <BarkingFish> BobTheWikipedian, - if you remember who you're there to see, the answer to that riddle is easy
[13:07] <BobTheWikipedian> dunno if that's a word, though
[13:07] <BarkingFish> It is aziza
[13:07] <BobTheWikipedian> :o no way lol
[13:08] <BobTheWikipedian> i thought the weekend was more clever. :P
[13:08] <BarkingFish> a is the first letter of the alphabet - z is the last - i (personal pronoun) = myself  - then back to the end (another z) and the beginning again (a)
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[13:08] <BobTheWikipedian> haha have you played it before?
[13:09] <BarkingFish> not all of it, no, but I remember who you're going to see where that riddle is
[13:09] <BobTheWikipedian> haha
[13:09] <Snowolf> 'llo TBloemink
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[13:13] <BobTheWikipedian> barkingfish one thing i've noticed about qfg2 is there is so much room for error and the game seems to be timed!
[13:13] <BobTheWikipedian> qfg1 wasn't like that
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[13:15] <BobTheWikipedian> that was my least favorite aspect of king's quest iii...the fact it was timed and you could miss so many objectives, never realizing it until halfway into the game
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[13:21] <Ironholds> who here is in Siko's panel thingy?
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[13:22] <Ironholds> Sven_Manguard?
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[13:22] <Sven_Manguard> I am
[13:23] <Fluffernutter> lolpanels
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[13:53] <IRWolfie-> quiet
[13:53] <IRWolfie-> too quiet
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[13:54] <IRWolfie-> Rather than only having fulll article reviews, a mini peer review would be a cool idea
[13:54] <IRWolfie-> for a section
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[14:01] <Matthew_> What the heck is with all of the MOS mainspace redirects? http://toolserver.org/~matthewrbowker/CNRD/
[14:01] <Matthew_> Was there an RfC on that or something?
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[14:06] <mysterytrey> I am no listening to Fluffernutter on the 2011 wikimania youtube video
[14:06] <mysterytrey> *now
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[14:08] <varujan> hi, newspapers are public domain sources?
[14:08] <varujan> what about news agencies, e.g. reuters?
[14:09] <varujan> can we copy-paste text from there?
[14:09] <IRWolfie-> err what, newspapers aren't public domain
[14:09] <IRWolfie-> varujan: what is your username
[14:09] <varujan> what about Reuters?
[14:09] <IRWolfie-> no they are not in the public domain
[14:10] <varujan> I don't have an account, I was just asking
[14:10] <IRWolfie-> they all are copyrighted
[14:10] <varujan> is it ok to copy-paste text from Reuters?
[14:10] <IRWolfie-> no!
[14:10] <varujan> ok, thanks
[14:10] <IRWolfie-> never copy and paste from a source
[14:10] <IRWolfie-> varujan: if you have, please go back and change it
[14:11] <varujan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copy-paste#But_surely_I_can_copy_from_this.3F
[14:11] <varujan> It is acceptable to copy and paste text from public domain sources or those that are explicitly licensed under a compatible licensing scheme
[14:11] <varujan> I was not sure about this rule
[14:11] <varujan> thanks again
[14:11] <IRWolfie-> varujan: no newspaper is public domain
[14:11] <IRWolfie-> copyright is automatic
[14:11] <IRWolfie-> if you have a website, everything is automatically covered by copyright
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[14:15] <MartijnH> no edits from his IP
[14:15] <Matthew_> What the heck is with all of the MOS mainspace redirects? http://toolserver.org/~matthewrbowker/CNRD/ Was there an RfC or something?
[14:15] <IRWolfie-> MartijnH: I checked as well
[14:15] <IRWolfie-> worrying :|
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[14:16] <MartijnH> Matthew_, with things like that, I generally find it best to not give a fuck
[14:17] <Matthew_> MartijnH: I wish I could, but I'm going to go through and CSD all of the CNRD articles.  I just want to know if there was something I missed before I do it.
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[14:18] <MartijnH> under which criterium?
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[14:18] <FT2> assume anything that someone has written is copyright and not free licensed / public domain, unless you can find actual evidence to say so.  Exceptions (sometimes) some publications by some govts are always free/PD, stuff published too long ago for copyright to endure may be PD, and small reasonable quotes may be fair use.
[14:18] <MartijnH> R2. Redirects, apart from shortcuts, from the main namespace to any other namespace except the Category:, Template:, Wikipedia:, Help: and Portal: namespaces.
[14:19] <MartijnH> MOS e Wikipedia:
[14:19] <MartijnH> FT2, he's already gone
[14:19] <FT2> :P that was a watse then
[14:19] <FT2> waste
[14:19] <IRWolfie-> :>
[14:19] <MartijnH> sorry to rain on your electron parade on [[Higgs boson]] btw :/
[14:20] <IRWolfie-> it's getting late when I read that as erectron parade :|
[14:20] <MartijnH> ah, what we in Holland call the Gay Parade
[14:21] <Matthew_> MartijnH: Sorry, lag.  I normally do R2, but I wasn't aware shortcuts could exist in the mainspace.
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[14:23] <Shearonink> MartijnH: what's this about Higgs-boson?
[14:25] <MartijnH> FT2 mistook the Electron for the force carrying particle of the EM field
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[14:28] <IRWolfie-> MartijnH: no need to rub it in by repeating it surely
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[14:29] <actress> who knows joe jonas??
[14:30] <MartijnH> IRWolfie-, but I like rubbing things in
[14:30] <MartijnH> sorry, never heard of him actress
[14:30] <MartijnH> we might have an article on him though :)
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[14:39] <BarkingFish> Any admins around who could review some stuff for me please?  I'm working with a user called coolboygcp - he started uploading images yesterday, and they had some licensing tag issues - before he could get the chance to sort them, the whole batch were deleted.
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[14:40] <BarkingFish> One or two he claims were CC licensed.  Can an admin review those mentioned on his talk page and check them out please? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Coolboygcp
[14:40] <IRWolfie-> can I prevents specific pages being indexed?
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[14:41] <actress> MartijnH really
[14:43] <FT2> IRW - what namespace?
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[14:49] <IRWolfie-> FT2: userspace
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[14:51] <FT2> then yes, it can be noindexed.  user talk is already I think? If it's yours then you can do it any time. If it's someone elses then [[WP:UP]] gives guidance - basically "yes if needed, and with tact if it's not too bad"
[14:51] <FT2> what's the page?
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[14:52] <IRWolfie-> if it's automatic then no issue
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[14:54] <IRWolfie-> FT2: pm
[14:55] <FT2> got it
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[15:08] <BarkingFish> guys - quick question. Does anyone here know about image licensing specifically on Wikipedia?
[15:09] <BarkingFish> I have an image here which a guy in -en-help wants for an article he's working on, but it's got a license which I *know* is incompatible with Commons, but I need to know if wikipedia can use it.
[15:09] <BarkingFish> It's CC-BY-ND
[15:10] <FT2> Wikipedia would be based on fair use - look at the fiar use criteria, see if you agree it's fair to use it
[15:11] <BarkingFish> It would be fair to use, it's an image of the Victoria Beckham special edition of the Range Rover Evoque - so in theory, yes it would apply as fair use, correct identification of the model, critical commentary, etc
[15:11] <BarkingFish> http://www.flickr.com/photos/our-planet/4903591467/
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[15:12] <FT2> movie time
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[15:13] <MartijnH> BarkingFish, you're not being serious are you?
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[15:13] <BarkingFish> er. Yes.
[15:13] <Shearonink> why not....
[15:14] <MartijnH> Replacability
[15:14] <Shearonink> images/tables scare me
[15:14] <BarkingFish> i know commons can't take ND, I didn't know whether we could
[15:14] <Shearonink> there aren't any pics available of the car other than this one
[15:14] <MartijnH> it should be non-replacebile for Fair Use
[15:14] <BarkingFish> not that aren't copyrighted anyway
[15:14] <Shearonink> it's a special edition
[15:15] <Shearonink> BarkingFish: hmmm
[15:15] <MartijnH> if the object still exists, it's almost always replacable
[15:15] <Shearonink> This image might just be of "a" Range Rover and the designer
[15:15] <Shearonink> not sure it's of the actual model she designed
[15:15] <IRWolfie-> what all of these: http://www.google.ie/search?q=range+Rover+Evoque&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=1p0AULbINpCAhQfOyrH8Bw&biw=1366&bih=576&sei=2J0AUJjlM9KKhQfI0_2ACA#um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=%22range+Rover+Evoque%22&oq=%22range+Rover+Evoque%22&gs_l=img.3..0l10.7450.8625.0.8818.2.2.0.0.0.0.70.137.2.2.
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[15:15] <IRWolfie-> gah I should have reduced that
[15:16] <Shearonink> too...tooo....much linkage....augh....my eyes
[15:16] <BarkingFish> IRWolfie-, images of the wrong dang car, that's what :)
[15:16] <BarkingFish> We're looking for pictures of the Range Rover Evoque Victoria Beckham special edition :P
[15:16] <Shearonink> BarkingFish: I don;t think that image is ot the Beckham car though
[15:16] <BarkingFish> with a CC license
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[15:16] <BarkingFish> it is, Shearonink
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[15:16] <MartijnH> we have an article on the Range Rover Evoque Victoria Beckham special edition?
[15:17] <BarkingFish> i specifically put that search through on flickr, with all words included
[15:17] <MartijnH> otherwise it wouldn't be primary means of identification of the tubject of the article
[15:17] <IRWolfie-> they all look the same
[15:17] <Shearonink> That's not what the caption says, it isn't clear on the caption
[15:17] <MartijnH> subject even
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[15:18] <MartijnH> note that NFCC reads : 1. No free equivalent. Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created,
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[15:19] <BarkingFish> MartijnH, we don't have the article at the moment, the guy is making one on the Evoques and wanted pics to accompany the articles
[15:19] <MartijnH> still the important part is "or could be created"
[15:20] <Shearonink> BarkingFish: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_Rover_Evoque
[15:20] <MartijnH> the car still exists, doesn't it?
[15:20] <Shearonink> article already exists I think....
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[15:20] <BarkingFish> MartijnH, i'm assuming it does.
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[15:20] <BarkingFish> and Shearonink - Yes, his ones are on the GTS and the specials if I understand him correctly
[15:20] <MartijnH> then one could be created, so it fails criterium 1
[15:21] <BarkingFish> whether they're already in the article above, I don't know
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[15:26] <Shearonink> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_Rover_Evoque#Concepts_and_special_editions
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[15:41] <kylu> I'm told that the best way to get a song out of your head is to pass it on to someone else. youtu.be/�ghb6eDopW8I
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[15:42] <BarkingFish> Oh this guy is getting on my nuts now.  The question I posted earlier, from Yahoo Answers?  The dude's put another one up. I hate him. So much :P
[15:43] <Qcoder00> BarkingFish: Rule 1 of pointless Wikipedia arguments - Do not get involved in pointless arguments...
[15:43] <BarkingFish> Shearonink, - see if you iz as clever on this one :)
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[15:43] <Qcoder00> Rule 2 of pointless Wikipedia Arguments  - DO NOT get involed in pointless arguments...
[15:43] <BarkingFish> "A nice easy one for you. If you don't get this, there's something wrong. -- I'm 38. 10 years ago, I was 28.  It's a long way to Tipperary, it's hot, and I lose fluid at the rate of 100mls per hour.  I come back on a train from Dublin to London via Cardiff. So how old would I have to be to marry my wife?"
[15:44] <Qcoder00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links/Noticeboard#Wikimapia
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[15:44] <BarkingFish> Quite clearly, he's taking the piss now :)
[15:44] <Qcoder00> Sometimes I get the view that Wikipedia has problems...
[15:44] <Qcoder00> Evening BarkingFish
[15:44] <Qcoder00> See the above , it seems the WikiMapia issue is more complex...
[15:45] <BarkingFish> yeah, just got it in browser.
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[15:45] <BarkingFish> Oh. my. God.   I can't believe I am so thick.
[15:46] <IRWolfie-> I don't see why it has to be a reliable source for an external link
[15:46] <BarkingFish> I just looked at that question again, and the answer hit me.
[15:46] <BarkingFish> He doesn't need to be any age to marry his wife.  He's already married to her, or she wouldn't be his wife... :P
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[15:47] <Qcoder00> IRWolfe: The EL issue wasn;'t about reliability
[15:47] <Qcoder00> That was the RS issue...
[15:47] <Qcoder00> but with a Wikipedia disscussion in multiplie places things get a bit hazy...
[15:48] <MartijnH> see http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/ForestFire
[15:48] <IRWolfie-> ah, that why it moved?
[15:48] <MartijnH> "You can tell that you are experiencing a ForestFire when you suddenly lose track of where the rapidly expanding "front" of the argument is. You feel that you are making the same point in multiple places. You have to argue "laterally", across pages, in order to put forward a cohesive perspective."
[15:48] <Qcoder00> Thank you
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[16:00] <BarkingFish> ok guys, that's my lot - i'm out to bed for the night. i know it's early for me and shit, but I've not been sleeping well - and while I'm tired, i'm gonna take advantage of it :)
[16:00] <BarkingFish> Night all
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[16:23] <TCO_> Whahahachchcchchaaaaazzzzzupppppppp?
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[16:32] <Demiurge1000> hey kiddo.
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[16:33] <TCO_> place seems like it is getting more and more stupid.
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[16:34] <foks> charming
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[16:42] <IRWolfie-> It's weird looking back at your own talk page comments etc from some time ago
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�06[16:42] * IRWolfie- walks down nostalgia lane 
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[16:43] <foks> Nostalgia Lane is full of dog shit for most people.
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[16:44] <IRWolfie-> Yes, I seem to be pretty clueless at the start
[16:48] <IRWolfie-> I find it startingly that windows phone 7 contains no negative content whatsoever
[16:48] <IRWolfie-> apparently the reception of the phone was seemingly perfect
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[16:49] <IRWolfie-> s/phone/phone os/
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[17:23] <Shearonink> anyone in here good with tables?
[17:23] <schiste> I can make them fly.
[17:23] <Shearonink> heh
[17:24] <Shearonink> srsly
[17:24] <Shearonink> I have a good puzzle-table
[17:24] <Shearonink> code looks good but...hmmm...not working
[17:24] <Shearonink> anyone?
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[17:25] <IRWolfie-> suspected sock puppets, what's the best thing to do while waiting for the suspected formality of a block?
[17:25] <WilliamH_UK> point and laugh
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[17:25] <IRWolfie-> about 95% sure it's a sockpuppet and the SPI is already filed
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[17:26] <Shearonink> WilliamH_UK: ?
[17:26] <Shearonink> tables....halp
[17:26] <WilliamH_UK> let me see
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[17:26] <IRWolfie-> I refer specifically to it posting at a noticeboard
[17:26] <IRWolfie-> should the thread it started be removed or not?
[17:26] <Shearonink> If anyone wants to solve a puzzle.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Prizemaster
[17:27] <Shearonink> the references are appearing before the External links, before the table....
[17:27] <Shearonink> halp
[17:27] <WilliamH_UK> please show me the case
[17:27] <WilliamH_UK> i may be able to checkusahh
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[17:29] <WilliamH_UK> ?
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[17:31] <Shearonink> WilliamH_UK: maybe while you're waiting you can take a look at that Prizemaster link
[17:31] <Shearonink> puh-leeze
[17:31] <WilliamH_UK> whats there to see
[17:31] <Shearonink> it;s out of order
[17:31] <Shearonink> and I can't figure out why
[17:31] <kylu> the table is coded above the references section, but shows below it.
[17:31] <Shearonink> yes!
[17:32] <IRWolfie-> WilliamH_UK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/ScienceApologist
[17:32] <Shearonink> thank you
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[17:32] <IRWolfie-> clerk has already endorsed
[17:32] <IRWolfie-> (sorry I was distracted)
[17:32] <schiste> Shearonink something wrong with the table, checking it
[17:33] <Shearonink> bless you schiste
[17:33] <Shearonink> it is driving me nuts
[17:33] <Shearonink> even mmore than I already am
[17:33] <Shearonink> heh
[17:33] <WilliamH_UK> ffs scienceapologist
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[17:33] <schiste> Shearonink and it's fixed
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[17:34] <Shearonink> WHAT was wrong
[17:34] <Shearonink> please tell me
[17:34] <Shearonink> gack gack gack
[17:34] <Shearonink> schiste: ?
[17:34] <IRWolfie-> WilliamH_UK: exaclty
[17:34] <IRWolfie-> *err exactly
[17:34] <IRWolfie-> he does exactly the same thing when he comes back
[17:34] <kylu> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Prizemaster&diff=next&oldid=502155684 <- removed a dash.
[17:34] <schiste> Shearonink you ended your table with |-}
[17:34] <kylu> ...not sure why that relocated the table, rather th...
[17:34] <Shearonink> SERIOUSLY?
[17:34] <kylu> oh
[17:34] <schiste> Mediawiki didn't like it.
[17:34] <Shearonink> it wasn;t mine
[17:35] <Shearonink>  but that's ok
[17:35] <schiste> oh ok
[17:35] <kylu> it didn't close properly, I see.
[17:35] <schiste> anyway it wasn't closed properly
[17:35] <Shearonink> an errant -?
�06[17:35] * Shearonink faints
[17:35] <schiste> so Mediawiki close it as the last object
[17:35] <schiste> Shearonink not errand, poor copy/pasting of one line to another
�06[17:36] * Shearonink gives schiste their snack and rink of choice
[17:36] <Shearonink> drink^
[17:36] <schiste> Oh you're in bad situation.
[17:36] <schiste> I'm drinkin old single malt.
[17:36] <schiste> You're in for a quiet expensive drink here :D
[17:37] <kylu> "quiet" or "quite" ?
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[17:38] <schiste> It's 2:30, I'm a little drunk, so whatever is correct will do ^^
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[17:39] <kylu> I have no booze handy. :(
[17:39] <schiste> ^^
[17:40] <Shearonink> heh, you have no idea what I am capable of concerning alcohol, single malts rule :D.
[17:40] <schiste> Yes it does :)
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[17:46] <IRWolfie-> I've removed it anyway per [[WP:DUCK]] since the comment was pretty much identical to what he has done the last 3 times or so
[17:46] <MrFish2> Oh dear
[17:46] <MrFish2> "Nvidia, a semiconductor maker, said as many as 400000 of its users' passwords were stolen by hackers. The company, which makes parts used in Apple and Google products, among others, said attacks this month resulted in hackers compromising its users' ..."
[17:46] <MrFish2> :OOO
[17:46] <MrFish2> http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-nvidia-hack-400000-20120713,0,7329485.story
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[17:47] <IRWolfie-> a crap.
�06[17:47] * IRWolfie- checks
[17:48] <MrFish2> "Nvidia told the Los Angeles Times that the accounts belonged to users of the Nvidia Forum, Developer Zone and Research Site, which the company has now suspended."
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[17:48] <IRWolfie-> I can't remember if I registered or not
[17:49] <Shearonink> heh, I sure as hel didn't
[17:49] <foks> loooooool
[17:50] <GabrielF> why is the marriage of the crown prince of Togo our top story today?
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[17:51] <Shearonink> If I registered that would indicate that I knew what I was doing, I didn;t not register therefore, I do not know what I am doing, ehich is true and verifiable
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[17:56] <IRWolfie-> why would a website store passwords and not use hash keys?
[17:57] <MrFish2> Or store the passwords on a seperate server not connected to the internet? :P
[17:58] <MrFish2> That wouldn't work. Nevermind.
[17:58] <IRWolfie-> :D
[17:58] <IRWolfie-> I know, store them in a computer that is switched off, that'll fool them :P
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[18:00] <kylu> they could simply not use passwords at all, and instead use an OpenID or other authentication system instead.
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�06[18:00] * kylu removes an extraneous "instead" there.
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[18:05] <IRWolfie-> :D
[18:06] <IRWolfie-> ok, 2 in the morning here, I think that's my queue to exit
[18:07] <IRWolfie-> s/queue/cue
[18:07] <kylu> ha, QUIT: Denied, queue to disconnect full.
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[18:10] <schiste> :D
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[18:11] <LtNOWIS> Hmm, I suppose there aren't that many crown princes who will be getting married.
[18:11] <LtNOWIS> Because most of them will already be married by the time they become the heir apparent
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[18:13] <kylu> find me a cute, single, and open-minded crown princess? :)
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[18:14] <LtNOWIS> I think there are literally none.
[18:14] <LtNOWIS> sorry...
[18:14] <kylu> drat.
[18:16] <GabrielF> but if you're willing to settle for a non-crown princess...
[18:16] <LtNOWIS> oh yeah, then there are a bunch
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[18:17] <kylu> oho?
[18:18] <LtNOWIS> Alexandra of Luxembourg is probably the best choice
�06[18:19] * kylu peeks.
[18:19] <haggis> foks: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Batman_Turkey_Provinces_locator.jpg lol
[18:20] <kylu> cute, a bit young, but cute. :D
[18:20] <Night_o_Big_Wind> Hmmmm, did I do it right? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PA-176876.tif
[18:20] <Night_o_Big_Wind> Unfamiliar territory, so I better check...
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�06[18:21] * Athyria hugs Sven_Manguard.
[18:21] <Sven_Manguard> thank you
[18:22] <Athyria> Also my foot is oozing.
[18:22] <Fluffernutter> ...
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[18:23] <Athyria> What?
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[18:23] <haggis> Athyria: :o Hypocrite
�06[18:23] * kylu offers a jelly donut to Fluff. ^.^
[18:24] <Athyria> Hypocrite?
�06[18:24] * Fluffernutter yawns, accepts donut, resolves to figure out how this irccloud thing works
[18:25] <kylu> so... LtNOWIS suggested I hook up with Princess Alexandra of Luxembourg.
[18:25] <kylu> think they're cool enough for a marriage, Fluff?
[18:25] <haggis> Athyria: <Isarra> haggis: stop changing nicks
[18:26] <Fluffernutter> pricesses are always cool
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[18:26] <LtNOWIS> I dunno, a lot of the German royals and former royals marry each other rather than common folk
[18:26] <LtNOWIS> but I don't think Luxembourg does that
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[18:27] <mabdul> Fluffernutter: would you do two (protected) edits for me please?
[18:27] <Night_o_Big_Wind> So, I guess the uploaded photo is correctly sourced and licensed?
[18:28] <kylu> you could be my maid of honor, mebbe. :D
[18:28] <Fluffernutter> i'm sorry mabdul , i'm sleepy and headachey and not up to judging edits tonight :/
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[18:28] <mattbuck> the arduous manufacturing company is no longer one of my 100 most interesting flickr photos
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�06[18:29] * mattbuck wonders whether posting it here will change that next month
[18:29] <mattbuck> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattbuck007/3298714562/in/set-72157630138445234
[18:30] <Sven_Manguard> GorillaWarfare: ping
[18:30] <LtNOWIS> but yeah, it's stupid that people are mad about the Crown Prince of Tonga marrying his second cousin, because second cousins are barely related, genetically
[18:30] <kylu> I have a pic of a sign at work I keep meaning to post, says "NO PARKING VIOLATORS WILL BE TOWED"
[18:31] <mattbuck> there's a sign on campus here something like "authorised card access only at all times"
[18:32] <GabrielF> I just passed a sign on my way home that said "bank customers parking only during business hours"
[18:32] <mattbuck> well that seems reasonab;e
[18:32] <mattbuck> at other times they're not customers, they're robbers
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[18:34] <GabrielF> but does it mean that the lot is reserved during business hours for customers of the bank or that bank customers are only allowed to park there during business hours
[18:35] <GabrielF> (obviously its the former, but I found myself wondering why a customer would want to park there when the bank wasn't open)
[18:35] <kylu> actually, we have a local bank that has issues with that.
[18:36] <Athyria> haggis: I am not a hypocrite; this is a nick I use fairly regularly. Having multiple nicks for consistent reason may be more difficult to deal with than sticking to one, but changing to completely random things on a regular basis is just plain irritating.
[18:36] <kylu> the bank is across the street from a music venue, and they've towed vehicles that've clogged the lot.
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�06[18:37] * kylu has a friend who put up a parking sign in front of her store, "Witch Parking Only - Violators Will Be Toad"
[18:37] <kylu> (new age shop, whattashock)
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[18:50] <haggis> foks: You're running for arbcom? o_O
[18:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> kylu nice
[18:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so what if I park a toad?
[18:50] <haggis> 	StewardBot	Philippe (WMF) edited [[Identification noticeboard]] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/?diff=prev&oldid=3905578 with the following comment: +Foxj
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[18:51] <MrFish2> haggis: Why not read the candidate statements
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[18:52] <foks> um, no
[18:53] <foks> also stalker much
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[18:56] <GabrielF> I think I found an African scientific journal article that's plagiarizing our article on Hybrid Electric vehicles
[18:56] <haggis> foks: I'm in the -stewards channel >_>
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[18:58] <mabdul> foks: would you do two (portected, userjs) edits for me?
[18:59] <foks> ya
[18:59] <foks> PM me :)
[18:59] <kylu> ToAruShiroiNeko: it's more like, "if you park there, you'll be turned into a toad."
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[19:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> kylu so what if I am a toad then?
[19:05] <BarkingFish> Ah well, so much for my sleep :)  2 hours is better than nothing though.
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[19:07] <BarkingFish> Any administrators, quick question - doesn't require any action or button pushing on your part, just needs an answer.  Just seen a user in the user creation log, who has been on wp for about 2 weeks, been blocked twice, looks like reichstag climbing on both occasions.  Last block was 8th July, don't know if he's still blocked, but he's made a new account.
[19:07] <BarkingFish> Firstly, if he is still blocked, is he doing anything wrong at this point? (the new account's not been used yet(
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[19:08] <BarkingFish> and secondly, if he's not blocked, is it feasible to watch both accounts?
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[19:08] <Sven_Manguard> I'm back
[19:09] <BarkingFish> the (blocked) user is User:Ashrald522  - as I say, not sure how long his last block was for, cba to remember how to go find the block log :)
[19:10] <BarkingFish> and the new user is User:BUjOY-03 (not yet used)
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[19:14] <GabrielF> would there be any policy grounds to object to the user name SlimmerVirgin?
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[19:15] <Guerillero> yes
[19:15] <Guerillero> too close to a real user
[19:15] <Furry> BarkingFish, reichstag climbing?
[19:16] <GabrielF> it doesn't seem like an obvious troll http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/SlimmerVirgin&offset=20120430025838&target=SlimmerVirgin
[19:16] <BarkingFish> Furry, edit warring in other words.
[19:16] <BarkingFish> Constantly climbing one above the other to get the better of another editor
[19:17] <Furry> okau
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[19:17] <haggis> woooo
[19:17] <haggis> new CUs/OSs
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[19:18] <Sven_Manguard> woooo
[19:19] <Sven_Manguard> lemme check
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[19:19] <BarkingFish> who got the new CU and OS posts?
[19:19] <Sven_Manguard> haggis: where?
[19:19] <Sven_Manguard> BarkingFish: donno, it's not where I thought it'd be
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[19:20] <haggis> Sven_Manguard: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/?diff=prev&oldid=3905609
[19:20] <haggis> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/?diff=prev&oldid=39056147
[19:20] <foks> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Permissions#Oversight_access
[19:20] <haggis> foks: Too slow.
[19:20] <foks> Whatever.
[19:21] <Sven_Manguard> DeltaQuad and DorD as CUs seems like a good choice for me. Not sure why not SG, but w/e
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[19:22] <BarkingFish> well one of my CU choices got in. Good call DQ!
[19:22] <haggis> Sven_Manguard: SG?
[19:22] <Sven_Manguard> NW and TTT good choices for OS, no comment on the others except that foks looks eerily like he could be a twin of PeterC
[19:22] <Bsadowski1> Lol
[19:22] <Bsadowski1> fosk
[19:22] <haggis> I'm just happy we have two new ACC cus.
[19:22] <haggis> Bsadowski1: fosk
[19:22] <Bsadowski1> focks
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[19:24] <foks> Sven_Manguard, oi.
[19:24] <foks> I'm just as awesome a choice!
[19:24] <foks> Or, rather, good a choice.
[19:24] <foks> ... Okay, a decent choice.
[19:24] <BarkingFish> Who is TTT?
[19:25] <foks> Worm That Turned spelled wrong.
[19:25] <Sven_Manguard> WTT
[19:25] <Sven_Manguard> sry
[19:25] <Sven_Manguard> foks: but you're a brother from another mother to Peter.C
[19:25] <Sven_Manguard> that's a security vulnerability
[19:25] <tommorris> no, foks is sensible
[19:25] <foks> Oh. I see.
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[19:25] <foks> >:(
[19:26] <Sven_Manguard> tommorris: says the person that threatened to block an entire room of people at Wikimania
[19:26] <Sven_Manguard> great session, BTW
[19:26] <haggis> Sven_Manguard: wtf, no.
[19:26] <Sven_Manguard> haggis: were you there?
[19:26] <haggis> Peter-C looks like a toad.
[19:26] <haggis> foks looks like a foks :-D
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[19:27] <Soapy> hi
[19:27] <tommorris> Sven_Manguard: It's a preventative block, to prevent people from being mean to them
[19:27] <SigmaWP> hi
[19:27] <SigmaWP> Soapy: How do you do that
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[19:27] <Sven_Manguard> tommorris: right
[19:27] <Soapy> sigma: the "hi" to every room?
[19:28] <Soapy> it's /amsg hi
[19:28] <Soapy> i think it works on most clients
[19:28] <SigmaWP> hi
[19:28] <SigmaWP> Ooh it worked
[19:28] <Athyria> Are checkusers often run on obvious socks that pop up to say various long things on arbcom case talkpages?
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[19:30] <Peter-C> Caffeine and sugar is running through my veins
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[19:31] <Jeske_Merensky> If it's obviously a returning user, it should be.
[19:31] <haggis> Peter-C: ribbit
[19:34] <SigmaWP> The_Blade: I hope making these "I passed 100/1/0 without any FAs" comments on RfA doesn't become a deeply engrained habit
[19:35] <The_Blade> No, only when I see very vague opposes about "no content work".  If people at least specify what they want to see, I can live with it.
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[19:35] <tommorris> Sven_Manguard: 97/1/3 technically. ;-)
[19:35] <The_Blade> The one I responded to is a classic example of a VAGUEWAVE.
�03[19:35] * Fluff|away is now known as Fluffernutter
[19:35] <tommorris> 97 crazy people decided to give me sysopship
[19:36] <Sven_Manguard> wait what?
[19:36] <Sven_Manguard> tommorris: my RfA was unanimous
[19:36] <Sven_Manguard> mind you Commons a) has a less broken system, and b) also unanimously passed Logan
[19:36] <haggis> Sven_Manguard: No opposes? Fluffernutter had that too :-)
[19:36] <Sven_Manguard> so...
[19:36] <Fluffernutter> and look how I turned out...
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[19:37] <tommorris> Sven_Manguard: reckon I should run for RfA on Commons?
�06[19:37] * Fluffernutter flicks forked tongue, pointed tail
[19:37] <suicidalzerg> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wd-Q3F8KM
[19:37] <SigmaWP> [19:36:44] �<�Sven_Manguard�>�� mind you Commons a) has a less broken system, and b) also unanimously passed Logan
[19:37] <Sven_Manguard> tommorris: if you're serious, I will look over your contribs and give a recommendation
[19:37] <haggis> Sad thing is, year-ago me would've opposed just to ruin that.
[19:37] <Sven_Manguard> SigmaWP: wha?
[19:37] <suicidalzerg> http://www.youtuberepeater.com/watch?v=A-l5fGfdNS8&s=120&e=185
[19:37] <SigmaWP> But what if the system unanimously passed Logan_ because it was broken?
[19:37] <Soapy> lol
[19:37] <SigmaWP> :P
[19:37] <tommorris> Sven_Manguard: I'm semi-serious. I probably need to participate in some more deletion, but I've made 4,000+ contribs
[19:37] <Soapy> you and Logan are secretly best friends, right?
[19:37] <Sven_Manguard> SigmaWP: Logan is actually not a bad admin from what I've seen
[19:37] <haggis> If Logan_'s an admin, it's broken. :-)
�06[19:37] * SigmaWP pat pats Logan_ 
[19:37] <Soapy> you just pretend to not like each other
[19:38] <Sven_Manguard> tommorris: in what areas?
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[19:38] <haggis> Sven_Manguard: He told me that renaming things to their proper name is "pointless"
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[19:38] <Sven_Manguard> zscout370!
[19:38] <Sven_Manguard> you at Wikimania?
[19:38] <zscout370> nope
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[19:38] <Soapy> hmm. new RfA
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[19:39] <Soapy> hi DeltaQuad
[19:39] <Soapy> congrats
[19:39] <haggis> Soapy: link?
[19:40] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TParis/RfX_Report
[19:40] <haggis> My cardiac life expectancy result is: fuck
[19:41] <Soapy> i have it bookmarked so I can check it everyday
[19:41] <haggis> BarkingFish: ^ XD
[19:41] <The_Blade> Now I've got someone bitching at me on my talkpage for DARING to forget something from February.
[19:41] <haggis> The_Blade: I always have someone bitching on my talkpage :-0
[19:42] <Guerillero> a rfa while wikimania is going on
[19:42] <Guerillero> we can gang up and plot against them
[19:42] <The_Blade> "How could you POSSIBLY forget that bands are eligible for BLPPROD!!!!!!!!!"
�06[19:42] * Guerillero cackles evilly
[19:42] <The_Blade> I'm fine with that, but sorry for not reading the policy every day I decide to clean up peoples' messes at CAT:BLP
[19:42] <Soapy> "thanks for the relpy"
[19:43] <SigmaWP> Guerillero: :P
�06[19:43] * Fluffernutter blames The_Blade
[19:44] <The_Blade> Seriously, in 1 day I've managed to bring the number of articles from March from about 180 to 110 just by fixing bad tags/deleting stuff.
[19:44] <tommorris> time for sleep
[19:44] <foks> night!
[19:44] <Fluffernutter> night tommorris
[19:44] <haggis> tommorris: Sweet dreams
[19:44] <Guerillero> night
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�06[19:48] * Isarra throws a chicken at GorillaWarfare.
�06[19:48] * GorillaWarfare dodges
�06[19:49] * suicidalzerg throws Gfoley4 at Isarra.
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[19:49] <Gfoley4> Yikes.
[19:49] <SigmaWP> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Goalball&diff=prev&oldid=502116715
[19:49] <SigmaWP> I'm sure you can all guess what I did already
�06[19:49] * Isarra shields with a Peter-C.
�06[19:50] * suicidalzerg finds an opening and punches Isarra in the gut
�06[19:50] * haggis throws a shot of epi at Peter-C
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[19:50] <haggis> Isarra: your shield is now crazy.
�06[19:50] * SigmaWP throws a goalball at suicidalzerg 
�06[19:50] * suicidalzerg dodges
�06[19:50] * The_Blade laughs at all you puny midgets for fighting amongst each other.
[19:50] <Isarra> My shield was already crazy.
[19:50] <Isarra> But it's okay; we still love him.
[19:50] <haggis> {{cn}}
�06[19:50] * SigmaWP thinks 'puny midgets' is redundant
[19:50] <Isarra> Goalball?
[19:50] <Peter-C> Isarra <3
[19:51] <suicidalzerg> http://www.youtuberepeater.com/watch?v=A-l5fGfdNS8&s=120&e=185
[19:52] <Soapy> interesting sport
[19:52] <The_Blade> One person's redundancy is another person's emphasis
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[19:52] <Isarra> How does one apply for OTRS access?
[19:53] <The_Blade> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/volunteering
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[19:53] <haggis> Isarra: You need to be identified to WMF, well, it's weird.
[19:53] <Peter-C> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/volunteering
[19:53] <Peter-C> I did it once, not fun
[19:53] <Peter-C> I got shot down for IRC stuff
[19:53] <Peter-C> Which is BS because IRC and Wikipedia are to different things
[19:54] <SigmaWP> Peter-C: You know how to different things?
[19:54] <The_Blade> I've been over to OTRS a few times, and all I've gotten is spam
[19:54] <Isarra> IRC does indicate to some extent the individuals capabilities in general communication, personality, and approach to various things, however, which is certainly relevant.
[19:55] <Isarra> And that this is the english wikipedia channel, that only makes it more so.
�06[19:55] * Guerillero has otrs access
[19:55] <Fluffernutter> Isarra, i walked past you at one point today, i think
[19:55] <The_Blade> The funniest one I got so far was someone who felt the need to write *nine* e-mails advertising as a physical therapist.
[19:55] <Peter-C> I find myself perfectly functional IRL and on Wiki
[19:55] <haggis> Peter-C: I'd be killed 78 times now if I got shot down for IRC stuff
�03[19:55] * Jmajeremy_ is now known as Jmajeremy
[19:56] <Guerillero> I still find it strange that you are a woman
[19:56] <haggis> 70 times by one specific person, and yeah
[19:56] <Isarra> Fluffernutter: I'm sure you did, but we haven't actually met! This must be remedied.
[19:56] <Fluffernutter> indeed so
[19:56] <Guerillero> but then I didn't think that fox would look ickle
[19:56] <haggis> :DDDD
[19:57] <Fluffernutter> foks is a giant
�06[19:57] * haggis is ecstatic
[19:57] <Isarra> Guerillero: Me?
[19:57] <Guerillero> yes
[19:57] <Isarra> Fox is adorable.
[19:57] <haggis> Fluffernutter: what? how tall are you :-P
�06[19:57] * The_Blade met foks last Saturday.
[19:57] <Isarra> How is that strange?
�06[19:57] * Fluffernutter is a midget
[19:57] <Fluffernutter> i'm like 5'1
[19:57] <haggis> o_o
[19:57] <haggis> missing a 0 there?
[19:57] <The_Blade> I was going to say, I remember foks coming up to about my shoulders.
[19:57] <kylu> ooh, tall fluff. o.o
[19:57] <Peter-C> Really?
[19:57] <Peter-C> I honestly never noticed
[19:58] <BarkingFish> well fuck me, Peter-C - i thought you'd fallen off of the face of the earth or something :)
[19:58] <Fluffernutter> The_Blade is giantER, mind you
[19:58] <haggis> BarkingFish: I love you
[19:58] <haggis> :-P
[19:58] <Peter-C> BarkingFish - I am in DC
[19:58] <Peter-C> Wikimania
�06[19:58] * Isarra tries to figure out who Fluffernutter was.
[19:58] <BarkingFish> there's a first, haggis :D
[19:58] <The_Blade> I just remember being a bit... surprised when I met DGG in person.
[19:58] <Sp33dyphil> hi
[19:58] <Fluffernutter> I was often to be found around, like, foks and jdforrester
[19:58] <BarkingFish> Peter-C, ah feck, I forgot you were going :P
[19:58] <haggis> BarkingFish: now about that shampoo... j/k :-)
[19:58] <Peter-C> ;)
[19:58] <foks> Ya
[19:58] <The_Blade> He was a little shorter than I expected.
[19:59] <Guerillero> I must be one of the few who knew he was older
[19:59] <Furry> hi Isarra
[19:59] <Isarra> Was DGG the guy who was hunched over slightly to the left?
[19:59] <Furry> bye Isarra
[19:59] <Isarra> Or who was that?
�06[19:59] * Isarra waves vaguely.
�06[19:59] * Furry beat Isarra to reverts today
[19:59] <BarkingFish> go on, haggis - tell them :)
[20:00] <BarkingFish> only if you want to though, remember, patient privilege, etc
[20:00] <Isarra> Furry: That was only notable because you were sitting on the sofa next to me.
[20:00] <haggis> My life expectancy is 94 years 9 months :O
[20:00] <Soapy> oh. are there pics up yet?
[20:00] <Soapy> I didnt know it was over already
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[20:00] <SigmaWP> Soapy: Pictures?
[20:01] <Soapy> of wikimania 2012
[20:01] <SigmaWP> Are you there?
�06[20:01] * Isarra hits Ktr101 with a frying pan.
[20:01] <haggis> SigmaWP: Your post is beautiful, btw
[20:01] <Soapy> nope
[20:01] <SigmaWP> Try to get a picture of Earwig
[20:01] <SigmaWP> oh
[20:01] <Ktr101> wat up, friend
[20:01] <Soapy> i didnt go
[20:01] <SigmaWP> Isarra: Try to get a picture of earwig
[20:01] <BarkingFish> LOL.
[20:02] <BarkingFish> How does a King's son write?
[20:02] <Isarra> SigmaWP: He had my computer, but I didn't get an image.
[20:02] <The_Blade> Was anyone else here besides Peter-C and I at Governor's Island last week?
[20:02] <BarkingFish> He doesn't.  He "prince". :P
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[20:02] <BarkingFish> ffs
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�06[20:02] * Dagny shakes her head at BarkingFish
[20:02] <SigmaWP> BarkingFish: :D
[20:02] <haggis> BarkingFish: :-)
[20:03] <BarkingFish> i'm sorry, it's 4am, i've had 13 hours sleep in 3 days and i'm in one of my silly moods :)
�06[20:03] * Isarra huggles BarkingFish.
[20:04] <haggis> BarkingFish: hey, last "night" I went to bed at 7AM and woke up at 4AM
[20:04] <BarkingFish> 0.o
[20:04] <Soapy> thats a loooooooong sleep session
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[20:05] <The_Blade> For whatever instructions the Outreach userpages might have, could we *please* add that this isn't the place to post your resume?
[20:05] <The_Blade> I've nailed about 5 people doing that just tonight.
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[20:05] <Ktr101> Isarra: how's the party with the 300 pound gorilla in the room?
[20:05] <BarkingFish> A 2-seater aircraft has crashed into a local cemetary in Ireland!  Police and forensics teams have recovered 359 bodies so far :P
[20:05] <Ktr101> like!
[20:05] <Ktr101> lol
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[20:06] <Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2602:304:47EB:7299:21B:77FF:FEAD:46DE
[20:06] <Ktr101> BarkingFish: you in d.c.?
[20:06] <BarkingFish> No
[20:06] <Soapy> that would be told as a Polish joke in the USA
[20:06] <Sp33dyphil> can you do something about it?
[20:06] <Ktr101> ah
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[20:06] <BarkingFish> The best one in the night so far, I just discovered... I will LOL on this one.
[20:06] <Isarra> Ktr101: Ask her directly.
[20:06] <SigmaWP> just leave it
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[20:06] <Isarra> I assume you mean the lovely lady over there, no?
[20:06] <Ktr101> true
[20:07] <SigmaWP> Isarra: What does earwig look like?
[20:07] <Isarra> SigmaWP: A guy.
[20:07] <Ktr101> SigmaWP: not what you think he looks like
[20:07] <Isarra> With hair.
[20:07] <Isarra> And skin.
[20:07] <Ktr101> as does half the wikipedians here
�06[20:07] * SigmaWP had no idea
[20:07] <Isarra> And clothes.
[20:07] <Isarra> And stuff.
[20:07] <Ktr101> with facial hair
[20:07] <BarkingFish> "An Irish woman has been admitted to hospital suffering from complications related to Phone sex.  Doctors recovered 2 nokias from her vagina, 3 motorlas and an iPhone from her ass, but no Siemens were found" :D
�06[20:07] * Isarra isn't too good at remmebering things.
[20:07] <The_Blade> 面白い
�06[20:07] * Isarra hits BarkingFish with a frying pan.
[20:08] <Ktr101> aww, she loves you!
[20:08] <SigmaWP> Ktr101: Wait, you've seen the earwig/
[20:08] <Ktr101> yeah
[20:08] <The_Blade> BarkingFish; I know plenty of people with severe literal thinking issues, but none that bad.
[20:08] <Ktr101> i was clearing out afc next to him today!
[20:08] <SigmaWP> I would never have imagined him with facial hair
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[20:08] <Ktr101> dude, some editors are not what you think they are
[20:08] <Ktr101> some are YOUNG
[20:08] <Ktr101> others...OLD
[20:08] <The_Blade> Ah, AfC; we should have a note that says "Welcome to purgatory, the giant morass where anyone can suffer"
[20:09] <Gfoley4> you cleared out AFC? :o
[20:09] <The_Blade> I thought only Chzz was capable of that...
[20:09] <Soapy> ah. it's not over yet
[20:09] <SigmaWP> I think I like being unknown
[20:09] <Soapy> there are 2 days left in Wikimania
[20:09] <AMadman> I didn't see The Earwig. D:
[20:09] <AMadman> I saw Headbomb, who's also on BAG with me. :D
[20:10] <BarkingFish> One more before I go to bed.  And I am going to bed :)
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[20:10] <The_Blade> All I know is that, whenever I go to any Wikipedia meetups, I end up with people staring at me.
[20:10] <Soapy> Jimbo is there, right?
[20:10] <SigmaWP> Ktr101: GET A PICTURE OF HIM
[20:10] <The_Blade> Last time, it was because I had to carry 12 out of 27 pizzas across a ferry.
[20:10] <Isarra> The_Blade: Are you unusual?
[20:10] <Ktr101> SigmaWP: that's plain creepy!
[20:10] <AMadman> You'll steal his soul.
[20:10] <The_Blade> You can only imagine...
[20:10] <BarkingFish> "A small boy rides down the street on his bike, handlebars facing the wrong way.  A mounted police officer stops him and says "nice bike. Did you get it for christmas?" the boy replies "yes"."
[20:11] <BarkingFish> "Santa put it together the wrong way. The handlebars are the wrong way round" says the officer.
[20:11] <Isarra> The_Blade: You could say.
[20:11] <BarkingFish> "Did you get that horse at christmas?" replies the boy.  "Sure" says the officer. "Why?"
[20:11] <Isarra> Gods dammit I wanna go to wikimania next year.
[20:12] <BarkingFish> "You should tell santa off then. He put it together wrong. The c*** is supposed to be underneath the horse, not on top of it :P"
[20:12] <SigmaWP> BarkingFish: :P
[20:12] <The_Blade> That officially made my day.
[20:12] <Peter-laptop> BarkingFish - I wish you were here... asshole :(
[20:12] <SigmaWP> 我们的假象,真想]
[20:12] <The_Blade> Isarra; dven if I could go next year, there's no way; I don't like leaving the New York area in summertime.  I'm loathe to miss my Yankees
[20:12] <The_Blade> *even
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[20:13] <Soapy> i searched for an image of Earwig and got this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Winsor_McCay_-_Dream_of_the_Rarebit_Fiend_1913-01-19.jpg
[20:13] <Isarra> The_Blade: Pity, but I still want to go. :P
[20:13] <Isarra> So much awesome.
[20:13] <Ktr101> SigmaWP: are you on facebook?
[20:13] <BarkingFish> i wish I was too, but I have got too much shit going on right now.  Put Wikimania in Munich next year and I'll be there with bells on. I may even see if I can take a group of you around where I'll be working so you can get some nice photos and shit for commons :)
[20:13] <Ktr101> or better yet, are we friends
[20:13] <SigmaWP> Ktr101: I hope not
[20:13] <Ktr101> BarkingFish: hong kong
[20:13] <Soapy> Wikimania 2013 will be the 9th Wikimania conference, an annual event for the international Wikimedia community. It will be held in Hong Kong on 7 – 11 August 2013.
[20:13] <Ktr101> try 2014
[20:14] <Ktr101> Soapy: way to copy the wiki article :P
[20:14] <The_Blade> I just remember when they made that announcement, there was a big AN thread about a ton of Hong Kong IPs trolling various articles on Chinese politics.
�06[20:14] * SigmaWP needs earwig pictures
[20:14] <Soapy> itll be interesting to see how many people from outside Asia go to the Hong Kong one
[20:14] <The_Blade> Mostly Instantnood socks.
[20:14] <Ktr101> there are probably 1000 here
[20:14] <Soapy> a thousand people??
[20:14] <Soapy> wow
[20:15] <Soapy> I didnt know Wikimania conferences were that big
[20:15] <Soapy> I was thinking, like, 20
[20:15] <AMadman> ...
[20:15] <AMadman> Yeah,. there are a FEW more than that. :p
[20:15] <Soapy> well Iw as just going by the lists of people who say theyre coming
[20:15] <Soapy> so I assume most people that go there dont put on-wiki mention of it
[20:16] <AMadman> I got interviewed by the BBC.
[20:16] <The_Blade> Is PhanuelB there?  He shows up at WikimediaNYC events for reasons beyond me.
[20:16] <Fluffernutter> he's here, yeah
[20:16] <Fluffernutter> i saw him pass me by earlier
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[20:16] <The_Blade> I should amend that; he shows up there to soapbox about Amanda Knox, for reasons unknown to me.  Jesus fucking Christ, she's been exonerated already, what do you want?
[20:16] <Ktr101> not that i know of
[20:17] <Isarra> AMadman: They tried to interview me. Didn't get very far before I was kidnapped by WMFers.
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[20:17] <The_Blade> Next time I see him, I'll give him two shrubberies of different heights for the terrace effect and see if that works.
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[20:18] <BarkingFish> right guys, that's my lot for tonight. 4.18am and I've got to go back to bed, hell it's turning into daylight outside :)
[20:18] <BarkingFish> see ya guys, have a good time in DC, see you tonight.
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[20:18] <AMadman> Night!
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[20:21] <The_Blade> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Clusterfpodcast.  Seriously?
[20:21] <SigmaWP> Don't delete it
[20:21] <SigmaWP> I want to see :P
[20:21] <The_Blade> I'll hold off for a minute.
[20:22] <The_Blade> Who the hell would come to Wikipedia to look for crap like that?
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[20:22] <SigmaWP> That's just retarded
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[20:22] <SigmaWP> Do you think that person thinks he just helped improve Wikipedia?
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[20:23] <haggis|dnd> SigmaWP: do not disturb
[20:23] <SigmaWP> OK
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[20:26] <suicidalzerg> We got some damn foul smelling rain here.
[20:27] <kylu> downwind from a lot of pollution?
[20:27] <suicidalzerg> Might be from all the fires we're having south of here
[20:27] <kylu> there's a refinery south of me
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[20:27] <kylu> when it rains and it comes from the south, it's pretty nasty and oily.
[20:28] <kim_bruning> hewwo kylu
[20:28] <kylu> 'lo
[20:28] <suicidalzerg> It smells like... a mix of sulphur and... something
[20:28] <kylu> burnt wood?
[20:29] <suicidalzerg> I dunno
[20:29] <suicidalzerg> Like, sulphur and skunk
[20:29] <Olipro> fanny batter?
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[20:30] <TCO_> I want to ask a non-Wiki question
[20:31] <TCO_> ahem...cough cough
[20:31] <suicidalzerg> Go ahead...
[20:31] <kylu> suicidalzerg: sucker. ;)
[20:31] <Fluffernutter> don't eat it
[20:32] <TCO_> Do you think you should have some kind of rapore with a women to sleep with her...or just do it if she is willing?
[20:32] <TCO_> not a theoretical question, btw
[20:32] <Fluffernutter> ...
[20:32] <suicidalzerg> ¿????
[20:32] <AMadman> There is no one answer to that.
[20:32] <TCO_> I said it was non wiki
[20:32] <suicidalzerg> A wild Madman appears
[20:32] <AMadman> (Speaking as a former relationship/sex educator.)
[20:33] <Fluffernutter> i think we don't give sex advice here, and if we did it would be crappy sex advice
[20:33] <TCO_> Was this gal...I know she wanted to go out before
[20:33] <kylu> You should wait until you're in love and have a rapport with her, sure.
[20:33] <TCO_> and we are both on travel consulting
[20:33] <kylu> Fluffernutter: well, there's the technical questions at least.
[20:33] <AMadman> It is 100% up to the two people involved and what they're comfortable with.
[20:33] <TCO_> Yeah...I actually get way more naturally physical if the woman is someone I like
[20:33] <TCO_> I said it was non wiki
[20:33] <TCO_> ....
[20:34] <kylu> I personally would want to be married before giving up my virginity to someone. c.c
[20:34] <suicidalzerg> ^
[20:34] <kylu> Have you considered snuggling and a promise ring instead maybe?
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[20:34] <AMadman> I personally could not marry someone without seeing if we're sexually compatible. So, as I was saying, different strokes for different folks.
[20:34] <TCO_> I'm on the road...and a part of me...would just want the having any kind of relationship.  She is good enough looking.  But kind of wary...not ,my style
[20:34] <AMadman> So to speak. ;x
[20:35] <Fluffernutter> AMadman++
[20:36] <AMadman> Fluffernutter: One more of those and I level up. :D
[20:36] <kylu> personally, I'm still waiting for the right person. ^.^
[20:36] <TCO_> I could have made a pass tonight and could have before (she wanted to go out before).  At the same time...definitely not marriage material...and just too kind of firm for my style...I like a real woman woman...if you know what I mean.  SWEET.
[20:36] <Fluffernutter> ...
�06[20:37] * Isarra offers chickens.
[20:37] <Soapy> a pictue of the conference is up
[20:37] <AMadman> ...
[20:37] <kylu> Go out, have a nice date, make sure she's home before it's too late though. You wouldn't want the neighbors to think she were a trollop.
[20:37] <kylu> Maybe in a couple dates, you could move on to holding hands during the movie.
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[20:37] <TCO_> you may be the only chick on this chanell, fluff...but in the real world it is 50-50.  And as I get older, I understand the fair sex more and more...
[20:38] <Fluffernutter> I...have no idea what you just said. But sure.
[20:38] <Soapy> oh wow, there's 86 pictures already just for the opening ceremony.  we're going all out this year
[20:38] <SigmaWP> Soapy: Link?
[20:38] <Soapy> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_2012_opening_ceremony
[20:38] <SigmaWP> thanks
[20:38] <SigmaWP> I hope earwig is there
[20:38] <TCO_> I could have made a pass tonight.  It is not about my virtue.  I'm long over that.  Just about personality.
[20:38] <Soapy> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_Opening_Ceremony_Adam_Novak-0022.jpg was what I saw first
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[20:38] <Soapy> I dont think Earwig would be there unless he was a speaker
[20:38] <TCO_> I might get a corporate apartment.  Really sick of hotels...
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[20:39] <Sven_Manguard> Soapy: Earwig is there, he is not a speaker
[20:39] <SigmaWP> Sven_Manguard: What does he look like
[20:39] <SigmaWP> Pictures
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[20:39] <SigmaWP> Take them and put them on commons
[20:39] <Soapy> by 'there' i mean on commons
[20:39] <Sven_Manguard> SigmaWP: no
[20:40] <Sven_Manguard> if he wants to, he can
[20:40] <SigmaWP> harej: I thought you were older than that
�06[20:40] * SigmaWP explodes
[20:40] <Son_Gohan> Hey, that's my line
[20:40] <Sven_Manguard> harej is going to become hairgrey because of this
�06[20:40] * kylu pats Fluff's shoulder, "Poor you, only chick. So lonesome here, isn't it?"
[20:40] <Sven_Manguard> kylu: there are a surprisingly large number of women there
�06[20:40] * Fluffernutter hugs kylu
[20:40] <AMadman> If anyone uploads pictures of me to Commons (two people took a picture), I will burn them.
[20:40] <Soapy> ok
[20:40] <TCO_> Can I make a wiki related comment?
�06[20:41] * kylu hugsback, yay huggles!
[20:41] <Sven_Manguard> AMadman: ditto
[20:41] <AMadman> I say that in the nicest possible way. :)
[20:41] <Sven_Manguard> AMadman: unlike you though, I got taped
[20:41] <Sven_Manguard> because I am a moron
[20:41] <SigmaWP> AMadman: Remind me to go to Hong Kong next year
[20:41] <AMadman> I got interviewed by the BBC, but declined to get a photo taken.
[20:41] <Shirik> TCO_, what do you think, this is a wikipedia channel?
[20:41] <kylu> Fluffernutter: know anyplace that has liner socks that are 1) durable and 2) cheap?
�06[20:41] * SigmaWP makes a mental note to bring a bucket of flame retardant
[20:41] <AMadman> TCO_: Nevar.
[20:41] <Fluffernutter> liner socks?
[20:42] <AMadman> SigmaWP: I probably won't be in Hong Kong.
[20:42] <kylu> yeh, like to wear under hose without destroying feet.
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[20:42] <AMadman> We'll see; maybe if I give a presentation. But I doubt it.
[20:42] <TCO_> it's kind of confusing what the fuck it is...but I have a tendancy to do things at perpindicular directions anyway...I am more of a normal person than a wikipediot
[20:42] <Fluffernutter> kylu: I can't remember the last time I wore hose
[20:43] <kylu> oh... I'll probably just cheat and pick up some socks at target or whatever.
[20:43] <Fluffernutter> probaby the best plan
[20:43] <kylu> 'course, long toenails tend to destroy them. c.c
[20:43] <Fluffernutter> cut toenails?
[20:43] <AMadman> I've never worn liner socks when wearing hose. >.>
[20:44] <kylu> AMadman: I don't like getting my toes all squished up by pointy shoe tips, or destroying hose foots by the same mechanism.
[20:44] <AMadman> Oh, but on another note, if anyone takes pictures I'd potentially like a copy; who knows if I may eventually put one up on my user page. My choice though. :x
[20:44] <kylu> plus, if you wear pointy toe shoes for long periods in hose, they REALLY make your feet feel better later, since there's some cushion.
[20:45] <AMadman> kylu: Open toe + cut toenails?
[20:45] <Son_Gohan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Kaginawa.JPG
�06[20:45] * kylu not really a fan of open toe shoes and sandals. Strange, knows this.
[20:46] <kylu> 'sides, at work, going to be sitting in the office for a while? shoes come OFF.
�06[20:46] * kylu ponders the combination of kicking heels off and a dartboard. c.c
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[20:51] <kim_burning> kylu, :-P
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[20:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> who would eat a zerg?
[20:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> dammit had to scroll down
[20:54] <kylu> kim: what, you leave your shoes on?
[20:55] <kylu> so uncomfortable!
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[20:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> who wears shoes?
[20:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> shoes are evil
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[20:55] <AMadman> Oh my Gawd, shoes.
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[21:10] <haggis|dnd> holy shit
[21:10] <haggis|dnd> I'm almost done
[21:10] <haggis|dnd> took me long enough..
[21:11] <nezZario> with what?
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[21:15] <haggis|dnd> I am about to make...
[21:15] <haggis|dnd> I can't tell yet
[21:15] <haggis|dnd> it's loading
[21:16] <haggis|dnd> O_O
[21:16] <haggis|dnd> more than 25000 edits
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[21:16] <haggis|dnd> Logan_: ^
[21:16] <haggis|dnd> I maxed out AWB
[21:16] <haggis|dnd> with that category
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[21:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> anyone on?
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[21:36] <haggis> ToAruShiroiNeko: I'm here :-P
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[21:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> haggis hmm
[21:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you rpobably wouldnt help me
[21:42] <haggis> ToAruShiroiNeko: I might
[21:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_Organisation_of_Islamic_Cooperation
[21:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to find the dates for those
[21:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> as in day month and year
[21:43] <haggis> I see
[21:43] <haggis> Unfortunately that's not my area :( there should be a website with the data no?
[21:43] <haggis> If you had something to ask about images or something I could help
[21:44] <ToAruShiroiNeko> there is no website I could find that has the day and month
[21:44] <ToAruShiroiNeko> none I could find that is
[21:45] <haggis> oh, what was it that you wanted me to do?
[21:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yeah
[21:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to represent OIC membership more acurately in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:International_membership_templates/2012
[21:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> year alone isnt precise enough
[21:50] <Frood> So, what did we figure out to be the 4 millionth article>
[21:50] <Frood> ?
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[21:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Frood probably a new sex position
[21:52] <haggis> Frood: CSD'd most likely
[21:52] <haggis> :0)
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[21:56] <haggis> Frood: what do they sell at the wikimedia shop
[22:01] <BlastHardcheese> jimbo bobbleheads
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[22:20] <SigmaWP> wctaiwan: hi
[22:20] <wctaiwan> hello.
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[22:32] <SigmaWP> wctaiwan: I never knew you had a github account
[22:32] <wctaiwan> I don't use it
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[22:34] <rm_-rf_\> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Appflood&rcid=517288125&redirect=no
[22:34] <rm_-rf_\> Idiots who do CSD tagging
�06[22:34] * rm_-rf_\ sighs
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[22:35] <rm_-rf_\> "Don't forget to yell as loud as possible when arguing. It will confuse the other party into actually believing your nonsensical arguing points".
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[22:41] <kim_burning> hello rm_-rf_\
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[22:41] <kim_burning> rm_-rf_\, );' DROP TABLE users;
[22:41] <kim_burning> too late :-P
[22:42] <rm_-rf_\> [sudo] password for kim_burning:
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[22:42] <wctaiwan> typo?
[22:43] <wctaiwan> also, http://xkcd.com/327/
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[22:43] <rm_-rf_\> wctaiwan: GENIUS
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[22:43] <wctaiwan> also old.
[22:44] <rm_-rf_\> I never thought of injecting parentheses
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[22:44] <wctaiwan> from back when xkcd was consistently clever.
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[22:45] <rm_-rf_\> Hm, I shouldn't have said that
[22:45] <kim_bruning> rm_-rf_\, we all went through the 1337 phase
[22:46] <haggis> rm_-rf_\: You're uppercase sigma... fix it
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[22:47] <rm_-rf_\> lc $_;
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[22:47] <rm_-rf_\> wait
[22:47] <rm_-rf_\> uc $_;
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[22:48] <Riley> Any one else gettting the following error message? "Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon. Please try again in a few minutes."
[22:51] <wctaiwan> working here
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[22:54] <LtNOWIS> Is there a specific 4 millionth article?
[22:54] <LtNOWIS> Or is that not a useful metric anymore?
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[22:55] <wctaiwan> had there ever been?
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[23:07] <LtNOWIS> we had a specific 3 millionth articl
[23:08] <closedmouth> it's always just a barely-educated guess
[23:09] <LtNOWIS> right
[23:09] <LtNOWIS> well, you can tell for wikis like at less than 100K articles
[23:09] <LtNOWIS> but for Wikipedia at this stage, not so much
[23:10] <haggis> SigmaWP: no
[23:11] <haggis> fucking shit up https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/tr/wiki/%C3%96zel:Katk%C4%B1lar/Addihockey10_(automated)
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[23:12] <wctaiwan> disgusting.
[23:13] <haggis> wctaiwan: {{fwp}}
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[23:16] <Ocean13> bye
[23:16] <Ocean13> i won't see pings for two hours
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[23:27] <LtNOWIS> This guy's pretty off topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ARepublican_Party_presidential_primaries%2C_2012&diff=502188051&oldid=502171239
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[23:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am amazed
[23:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 64kb file
[23:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> created in 1999
[23:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> works with modern 3d hardware
[23:37] <Son_Gohan> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=502180023&oldid=487955081
�06[23:37] * Son_Gohan tries to comprehend that absolutely horrible grammar
[23:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> and its 30+mins long
[23:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> easy!
[23:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> bath salts
[23:38] <Son_Gohan> lol
[23:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> what?
[23:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> do you have a better explanation?
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[23:44] <Lubaf> Son_Gohan: No, this looks more like a non-native English speaker to me.
[23:44] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Lubaf arent all of those high on bath salts?
[23:44] <wctaiwan> unlikely, seeing as the rant is about obama.
[23:45] <Lubaf> "i love jewish" is not the kind of phrasing I've heard from even a vaguely native speaker.
[23:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Lubaf have you seen people high on bath salts?
[23:45] <Lubaf> wctaiwan: There are USAians who aren't native speakers of English.
[23:45] <wctaiwan> thus "unlikely", not "impossible"
[23:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Lubaf your face is a native speaker of Lubaf
[23:45] <Lubaf> For example, talk to somebody from Alabama.
[23:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> alabama has too many a's in it
[23:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> alabama ~ obama
[23:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it shall be called obama
[23:46] <Lubaf> Anyway. Not a native speaker, and the fact that he mentions Obama probably has more to do with the fact that Obama is president of the United States.
[23:47] <Lubaf> If this were four years ago, the user'd probably be mentioning George W Bush; eight years before that, he would've been mentioning Bill Clinton.
[23:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he probably wouldnt know how to type
[23:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> can "i love jewish" be channels current slogan of the month?
[23:48] <Lubaf> Although... hrm. Maybe this vandal is merely schizophrenic. That might explain the odd word choices.
[23:48] <wctaiwan> ToAruShiroiNeko: Olabama has a nice ring to it. Better than Alobama, anyway.
[23:49] <SigmaWP> Lubaf: Or maybe he's just a vandal?
[23:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> how about holobama
[23:49] <Lubaf> SigmaWP: I'm coming at this from the assumption of Good Faith.
[23:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Lubaf is an enless void of good faith
[23:49] <SigmaWP> Good faith is hard to come by
[23:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SigmaWP not true, you can buy it on ebay
[23:50] <Lubaf> And basing my diagnosis on the assumption that even a native English-speaking vandal wouldn't use the phrasing "i love jewish"
[23:50] <Lubaf> *probably wouldn't
[23:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Lubaf would you entertain a thought?
[23:51] <Lubaf> "I love Jews", or, if you insist on not capitalizing, "i love jews", would be more appropriate.
[23:51] <Lubaf> ToAruShiroiNeko: I could sing and dance for it, yes.
[23:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ok
[23:51] <wctaiwan> Hey everyone, I have a brief announcement to make. Jesus is black. Ronald Reagan was the devil. And the government is lying about nine-eleven.
[23:52] <Son_Gohan> I LOVE JEWISH!
[23:52] <Son_Gohan> :p
[23:52] <SigmaWP> wctaiwan: And capitalism sucks :)
[23:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Lubaf I am looking for help to find membership dates for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_Organisation_of_Islamic_Cooperation
[23:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I have years I want more specific dates
[23:54] <Lubaf> ToAruShiroiNeko: You could try contacting them, asking if they have proceedings documents.
[23:54] <Lubaf> That would allow you to have the date, usually.
[23:54] <Son_Gohan> http://www.youtuberepeater.com/watch?v=A-l5fGfdNS8&s=120&e=184
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[00:02] <Riley> When simple and testwiki aren't working for me..
[00:05] <Son_Gohan> You smash your keyboard and punch your monitor? :p
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[00:06] <wctaiwan> Son_Gohan: looks like he did that :p
[00:07] <Riley> I feel like smashing my keyboard...
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[00:14] <evilgohan2> I've seriously gotta adjust my highlights for this room
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[00:28] <Pine> wctaiwan: ping
[00:28] <wctaiwan> hey
[00:28] <Pine> Hi there
[00:28] <Pine> Have you seen Ironholds recently?
[00:29] <wctaiwan> Depends on what you mean by recent
[00:29] <wctaiwan> he's probably at, or returning from, Wikimania.
[00:29] <Pine> aha, that could be it
[00:29] <Pine> Thanks
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[00:34] <Riley> !maxlag
[00:34] <Riley> Wrong channel
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[00:49] <Pine> Hi Ironholds!
[00:51] <Ironholds> Pine: hey
[00:51] <Pine> How is Wikimania? :)
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[00:54] <Ironholds> it's good! Sat in a hotel lobby jawing with isarra
[00:54] <Pine> Cool
[00:55] <Pine> Is anyone blogging from Wikimania?
[00:57] <Ironholds> Of course.
[00:57] <Ironholds> that was her
[00:57] <Ironholds> sorry
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[00:58] <Ironholds> Meow.
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[00:58] <Ironholds> I'm going to close this now so she stops screwing with it
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[01:00] <wctaiwan> hahaha.
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[01:21] <Ocean13> Whoever here works for WMF should suggest making barnstars for the wikimedia shop
[01:21] <Ocean13> As I wouldn't know who to contactt
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[01:33] <wctaiwan> hey My76Strat
[01:34] <My76Strat> hello
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[02:32] <jubo2> g'morning
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[02:33] <jubo2> Ni hao wctaiwan? Ni chi fan le ma?
[02:34] <jubo2> Ni hui shuo chongwen ma?
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[02:40] <Ironholds> morning editors
[02:40] <Ironholds> yo Dagny
[02:40] <wctaiwan> good day, Ironholds.
[02:40] <Ironholds> yo wctaiwan
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[02:41] <wctaiwan> Nice quit message, btw.
[02:41] <Ironholds> thank you
�06[02:42] * wctaiwan is bored out of his mind waiting to go to dinner at his grandparents'
[02:42] <Ironholds> I am now back at my hotel and covered in rain
[02:42] <wctaiwan> It hasn't rained in a week.
�06[02:42] * Dagny waves at Ironholds
[02:44] <Ironholds> Dagny: how goes
[02:44] <Dagny> Ironholds: Not too shabby, you?
[02:45] <Ironholds> eh, alright, yeah
[02:50] <wctaiwan> sleep deprivation, I assume?
[02:51] <Ironholds> sorry?
[02:51] <wctaiwan> <Ironholds> Sleep is for the weak.
[02:51] <wctaiwan> the "eh, alright, yeah"
[02:51] <Ironholds> no, psychosomatic pain
[02:51] <wctaiwan> O_o
[02:51] <Ironholds> shooting pains from my heart to my fingertips. it's always such fun.
[02:51] <Ironholds> (no, not a heart attack, wrong arm and it happens regularly)
[02:52] <wctaiwan> err.
[02:52] <Ironholds> same to you, good sir
�06[02:52] * wctaiwan hugs Ironholds
[02:52] <Ironholds> anyway, the pain balances out the good bits of the evening
[02:52] <Ironholds> so, alright, yeah.
[02:53] <wctaiwan> Maybe you'd have less weird problems if you slept more...
[02:54] <wctaiwan> Anyway, it looks like they might be going. Talk to you later.
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[05:04] <Ironholds> blaaargh. TRAVEL. TRAVEL AND RAIN
�06[05:04] * Ironholds grumps
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[05:15] <Isarra> AGH it's too damn early.
[05:16] <Furry> HI IRONHOLDS
[05:16] <Furry> hi Isarra
[05:16] <Ironholds> hey Furry
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[05:16] <haggis> Isarra: too damn late for me :(
[05:17] <wctaiwan> what the fuck is the syrian military doing :x
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[05:20] <Fluff|sleep> it's raining?
[05:20] <Fluff|sleep> hell
�03[05:20] * Fluff|sleep is now known as Fluff|brb
[05:22] <Ironholds> dude, I had to walk for 40 minutes from State Plaza hotel to frickin' dupont circle in that rain
[05:22] <Ironholds> and it was a lot heavier
[05:22] <Ironholds> in a T-SHIRT
[05:22] <Dagny> You're ENGLISH
[05:22] <Dagny> Rain is not a big deal :P
[05:22] <Ironholds> it was a very bad end to the evening or start to the morning, depending on how you count it
[05:22] <wctaiwan> Dupont Circle.
[05:22] <wctaiwan> I remember that name.
[05:22] <Ironholds> HAUD YER WHEESHT, NORTHERN JAKEY
[05:23] <Ironholds> not you, wctaiwan, the other one
[05:23] <wctaiwan> o_O
�06[05:23] * Dagny pushes Ironholds back into the rain
[05:23] <Ironholds> ow, rain, it burns! HOLY WATER
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[05:23] <wctaiwan> I'm hardly "northern" compared to you.
[05:23] <wctaiwan> it'll do a heretic like you a lot of good. That holy water.
[05:23] <Dagny> Ironholds: So, rain burns, sun makes you BLISTER...you're allergic to the world! Go you! :D
[05:24] <Ironholds> you're allergic to compliments and niceness
[05:24] <Ironholds> don't criticise me
[05:24] <Dagny> >.>
[05:24] <wctaiwan> XD
[05:24] <wctaiwan> you people are wonderful.
[05:24] <Ironholds> Dagny: you're so CUTE when I nullify your argument!
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[05:25] <Dagny> It doesn't work when you're pissing me off at the same time.
[05:25] <Dagny> nerrrr
[05:25] <Ironholds> I knew you were too brilliant to be deceived by such an obvious ploy
[05:26] <Ironholds> I'll try to be more subtle in future; your gorgeousness deserves nuanced barbs
�06[05:26] * Ironholds is the king of being charmless, he is
[05:26] <haggis> In webmaster tools what does "average position" mean
[05:26] <haggis> this is google webmaster tools
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�06[05:27] * Dagny stabs Ironholds
[05:27] <wctaiwan> This is a No Stabbing Ironholds zone.
[05:28] <Dagny> Bullshit
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[05:41] <Ironholds> Dagny: you're just jealous of my uselessness
[05:41] <Ironholds> IShadowed: you going to be at the unconference?
[05:41] <IShadowed> part of it, yeah
[05:42] <IShadowed> why
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[05:43] <Ironholds> IShadowed: gonna stick you on a panel
[05:43] <IShadowed> what
[05:43] <IShadowed> :|
[05:43] <Ironholds> it's for epic lulz
[05:43] <IShadowed> on?
[05:43] <Ironholds> experience of editors on wikipedia
[05:44] <Ironholds> also anything the audience wants to discuss
[05:44] <IShadowed> >.<
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[05:44] <IShadowed> wellllll ok then. You're not here today, right?
[05:44] <Ironholds> naw, in minneapolis
[05:44] <IShadowed> ah
[05:44] <Ironholds> fly back tomorrow morning, around until monday
�06[05:45] * Guerillero shakes his head
[05:45] <Guerillero> your cray ironholds
[05:45] <Guerillero> you're*
[05:45] <Ironholds> why?
[05:46] <Guerillero> you are flying to the midwest
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[05:46] <Furry> poor Guerillero
[05:46] <Guerillero> flyover space
�06[05:48] * Isarra throws clumps of cheese at random people.
[05:49] <haggis> Isarra: swiss? :-D
[05:49] <Isarra> Sure, why not.
[05:49] <Ironholds> Guerillero: well, one of our staffers is getting married
[05:49] <Ironholds> I thought it sucked nobody could make it
[05:49] <Ironholds> plus it's like a 4 hour flight or whatnot, and I'm going first class.
�06[05:51] * IShadowed pokes Guerillero 
�06[05:51] * Guerillero is poked
[05:51] <IShadowed> This shit is like the epitome of social awkwardness
[05:51] <IShadowed> Sitting right next to me; IRC pokes
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[05:52] <Ironholds> IShadowed: no, epitome of social awkwardness is "sitting one seat away from me, incapable of making eye contact" *gives look*
[05:52] <IShadowed> heh.
[05:52] <IShadowed> Yeah...
[05:52] <IShadowed> :|
[05:53] <IShadowed> Pretty sure you're guilty of this as well.
[05:53] <Ironholds> nope!
[05:54] <IShadowed> yup
[05:54] <Ironholds> if that were the case I wouldn't have been AWARE you weren't looking
�06[05:54] * Dagny is great at eye-contact
�06[05:54] * IShadowed rolls her eyes
[05:54] <IShadowed> yeah well.
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[05:54] <IShadowed> I'M GOING TO RUN OFF WITH Guerillero NOW BYE
[05:54] <Ironholds> Dagny: and freaking the fuck out and running around going "oh my god oh my god" and shaking
[05:54] <Ironholds> and, oh, FAILING AT EYE-CONTACT
[05:54] <Dagny> IShadowed: That was sarcasm btw
[05:55] <Dagny> I am the worst person ever at eye-contact
[05:55] <Dagny> Even when I'm calm and happy
[05:56] <Ironholds> I have never seen you calm and happy
[05:56] <[ceradon]> Any MW template experts around?
[05:56] <Dagny> Ironholds: Lies
[05:57] <Ironholds> when? when were you happy and calm!
[05:57] <Dagny> Ironholds: In the bar, with alcohol. That's my natural state.
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[05:58] <Ironholds> you weren't!
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[05:58] <Dagny> Was.
[05:58] <Ironholds> anyone in the presene of me is neither calm nor happy
[05:58] <IRWolfie-> wait, are you now all in the same room as each other?
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[05:58] <Dagny> I'm not. I'm not at WM.
[05:58] <Dagny> The rest of them might be.
�06[05:58] * IShadowed returns
[05:58] <Dagny> It's creepy.
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[05:59] <IShadowed> Yeah well I'll make an effort to be less awkward on Monday
[05:59] <IShadowed> though I doubt that will be successful
�06[05:59] * Dagny pets IShadowed
[05:59] <IRWolfie-> people spend much time at the pub at wikimania?
[05:59] <Dagny> It's okay to be awkward, you're a nerd.
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�06[05:59] * IShadowed notes that she successfully established eye contact at the beginning of and during the panel
[05:59] <IShadowed> B-
[06:00] <IShadowed> ALSO HEY ISARRA I LIKE YOUR GLASSES
[06:00] <IShadowed> :3
[06:00] <Ironholds> IRWolfie-: yes, but that's incidental
[06:00] <IShadowed> Wow I suck I said it in a channel she's not in
[06:00] <Ironholds> Dagny: I'm creepy by default
[06:00] <Ironholds> I have been informed of this
[06:01] <froodphone> Isarra is at wm?
[06:01] <IShadowed> yes
[06:01] <Guerillero> yes
[06:01] <Ironholds> fish
[06:01] <IShadowed> sitting next to me and this guy ^
[06:01] <IShadowed> :|
[06:01] <IRWolfie-> I would go to the next wikimania except it's way out of the way
[06:01] <Dagny> <- Isarra has disconnected (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[06:01] <Dagny> ^
[06:01] <froodphone> Guerillero or Ironholds
[06:01] <IShadowed> :(
[06:01] <IShadowed> yes well her glasses are nice
[06:01] <Ironholds> froodphone: Guerillero
[06:01] <IShadowed> Guerillero
[06:01] <froodphone> Ok
[06:01] <Ironholds> I'm in my hotel room alone and veeery tired
[06:02] <Ironholds> IShadowed: get ISarra mountain dew, she's had at most 1-2 hours sleep
[06:02] <froodphone> Coffee.
[06:02] <IRWolfie-> is the next wikimania decided only a year in advance?
[06:02] <Ironholds> she seems to live on mountain dew
[06:02] <IShadowed> hey who is sitting in front of me
[06:02] <IShadowed> he is physically attractive
[06:02] <Ironholds> IRWolfie-: slightly more
[06:02] <Ironholds> IShadowed: last time you said that about an editor you ended up ragequitting and sobbing
[06:02] <IRWolfie-> suggest the UK
[06:02] <Ironholds> (also, no idea)
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[06:02] <Ironholds> IRWolfie-: fuck no
[06:03] <IShadowed> Ironholds, what?
[06:03] <Ironholds> first, we've already PICKED next wikimania
[06:03] <froodphone> Chicago.
[06:03] <IShadowed> Who what where?
[06:03] <Ironholds> it's hong kong
[06:03] <Ironholds> second, I don't want the one legitimate holiday I get a year *held where I live*
[06:03] <IRWolfie-> Ironholds: I mean after that
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[06:03] <Ironholds> see second point, fool
[06:03] <IRWolfie-> Ironholds: haha
[06:03] <shim-busy> there is a UK 2014 bid (or will be, anyway)
[06:03] <IRWolfie-> Ireland then :D
[06:03] <Ironholds> that would be in ireland
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[06:03] <shim-busy> plus, as a special bonus for Ironholds, it's no longer where he lives
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[06:04] <Ironholds> that isn't actually that helpful
[06:04] <froodphone> Chicago.
[06:04] <Ironholds> froodphone: go put a chicago bid together and then suggest it
�06[06:04] * Isarra hits Ironholds with a frying pan.
[06:04] <Ironholds> Isarra: sorry
[06:04] <Isarra> I have mountain dew. They wouldn't let me bring it in here.
[06:04] <IRWolfie-> why does wikimania 2013 have the US flag for Hong Kong? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimania#History
[06:05] <Ironholds> my eyes have stopped focusing
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[06:05] <froodphone> I'm not sure how.
[06:05] <Isarra> Ironholds: You need mountain dew.
[06:05] <Guerillero> how late were you at the bar?
[06:05] <heatherw> :P
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[06:06] <Ironholds> Guerillero: I got home about two hours ago
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[06:06] <Ironholds> having walked through the goddamn rain for 40 minutes
[06:06] <Isarra> I'm sorry.
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[06:06] <froodphone> Id
[06:06] <Ironholds> Isarra: do you control the weather or the proximity between your hotel and mine?
[06:06] <Ironholds> no
[06:06] <Ironholds> so shush you
[06:06] <froodphone> Isarra: who is sitting n
[06:07] <froodphone> In front of IShadowed
[06:07] <froodphone> That is an attractive male
[06:07] <Isarra> Sven Manguard.
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[06:07] <Isarra> Very.
[06:07] <Ironholds> ....SVEN?!
[06:07] <Guerillero> lol
[06:07] <Isarra> XD
[06:07] <Dagny> Haha
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[06:07] <Guerillero> she is face palming right now
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[06:07] <Ironholds> hee hee
�06[06:07] * foks is still at the hostel.
[06:07] <IShadowed_> NOOO
[06:07] <IShadowed_> NOT SVEN
[06:07] <Ironholds> IShadowed and Sven, sitting in a tree
[06:07] <IShadowed_> someone elseeeee
�06[06:07] * foks is a naughty boy.
�06[06:07] * IShadowed_ slaps Ironholds 
[06:07] <Ironholds> first comes love, then comes marriage
[06:07] <IShadowed_> HEY
[06:07] <Ironholds> then comes pregnancy
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[06:07] <IShadowed_> May I remind you, I will be at the unconference and you are 2 feet shorter
[06:08] <Ironholds> then sven goes "I'm like, not ready for this level of commitment man!" and pushes IShadowed down the stairs
[06:08] <IShadowed_> and much lighter.
[06:08] <foks> then comes workplace discrimination
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[06:08] <Ironholds> then he's caught and serves 18-23 years
[06:08] <Ironholds> which he spends servicing a large angry convict named Bubbah.
[06:08] <IShadowed_> I MADE PEOPLE LAUGH
[06:08] <Ironholds> did you take the paper bag off?
[06:08] <Ironholds> it does that
[06:08] <IRWolfie-> :D
�06[06:08] * IShadowed_ :|
[06:09] <IShadowed_> :( no prons
[06:09] <GorillaWarfare> Wait
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[06:09] <GorillaWarfare> froodphone is here?
[06:09] <Ironholds> he is!
[06:10] <GorillaWarfare> I've yet to meet him
[06:10] <IShadowed_> WHAT
[06:10] <foks> Protip: don't talk about prons while you're meeting new people in person
[06:10] <IShadowed_> ..
[06:10] <foks> :3
[06:10] <IShadowed_> Frood is here?!
[06:10] <froodphone> If here. !
[06:10] <Guerillero> ????
[06:10] <foks> froodphone, where the fuck are you
[06:10] <froodphone> Hdbehde I hate this
[06:10] <Ironholds> he is
[06:10] <IShadowed_> froodphone, whaaaaaat?!
[06:10] <Guerillero> its Sue
[06:10] <Ironholds> we ran into each other a couple of days ago
[06:10] <IShadowed_> wait like
[06:10] <IShadowed_> Tanner?
[06:10] <froodphone> I'm at my grandma's house...
[06:10] <Ironholds> Guerillero: froodphone is not sue
[06:10] <IShadowed_> ..
�06[06:10] * IShadowed_ is so confused
[06:10] <froodphone> In Iowa.
[06:10] <IShadowed_> FUCK YOU ALL
[06:10] <Guerillero> no she is on the stage
[06:10] <Isarra> Language.
[06:10] <Ironholds> froodphone is on the stage?
[06:10] <Ironholds> he's in iowa!
[06:10] <IShadowed_> This is not a family channel!
[06:10] <Ironholds> IShadowed_: even sven?
[06:11] <IShadowed_> stfu Ironholds
�06[06:11] * Ironholds sings the song again
[06:11] <froodphone> GorillaWarfare: look at what you started
�06[06:11] * IShadowed_ notes that Ironholds will not be doing that tomorrow on the threat of /death/
[06:12] <Isarra> I have a crowbar.
[06:12] <IShadowed_> May I borrow it?
[06:12] <Isarra> No, I'm threatening you.
[06:12] <IShadowed_> failed voice of dissent
[06:12] <IShadowed_> Aw hey
[06:12] <IShadowed_> hey hey.
[06:12] <IShadowed_> hey hey hey.
[06:12] <froodphone> Perhaps if 2014 or 2015 is near me I'll attend
[06:12] <GorillaWarfare> IShadowed_: I would like to verify that she is not actually joking
�06[06:13] * IShadowed_ frown
[06:13] <froodphone> Like, US/Canada
[06:13] <Ironholds> IShadowed_: kill me? fine
[06:13] <IShadowed_> :3
[06:14] <IShadowed_> I have no idea what Sue is talking about
[06:14] <Isarra> Project success.
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[06:14] <IShadowed_> She looks amazing in hot pink, though
[06:14] <Isarra> Or something.
[06:14] <IShadowed_> OH HEY IRONHOLDS IS ON THE SCREEN
[06:14] <Isarra> Who is EVula?
[06:14] <Ironholds> what?
[06:14] <Isarra> He's staff.
[06:14] <Guerillero> a cool guy
[06:14] <Isarra> What's your point?
[06:14] <Isarra> STAFF
[06:14] <Ironholds> evula is just awesome, but not staff
[06:15] <froodphone> YOU ARE ALL RUDE
[06:15] <IShadowed_> yus.
�06[06:15] * Isarra starts giggling psychotically.
[06:15] <froodphone> Irc during a presentation
[06:15] <Isarra> WHO is evula.
[06:15] <Guerillero> you better beleive it
[06:15] <Ironholds> Isarra: lovely person
[06:15] <IShadowed_> let it be noted that Isarra is not giggling psychotically
[06:15] <GorillaWarfare> Isarra: I met him; he's really nice
[06:15] <mareklug>   froodphone  you won't see another mania on this continent for a decade.  best to apply for a scholarship/expenses to wherever and see the world
[06:15] <Ironholds> let it be noted that I hate ALL of you
[06:15] <Isarra> IShadowed_: That would be rude, so aye.
[06:15] <IShadowed_> I wouldn't have it any other way
[06:15] <GorillaWarfare> Evula's a crat, amirite?
[06:15] <Isarra> GorillaWarfare: But who?
[06:15] <Isarra> Did I mix him up with erik moller?
[06:16] <Guerillero> it is great that IShadowed, GW, and Isarra are all sitting next to one another
�06[06:16] * Isarra is so confused.
[06:16] <IShadowed_> what, where is GW
�06[06:16] * foks needs to probably leave huh
[06:16] <GorillaWarfare> Isarra: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Evula
[06:16] <foks> o/
[06:16] <Ironholds> alright, I'm going to go get on my plane
[06:16] <IShadowed_> oh she's in front of me
[06:16] <Isarra> GorillaWarfare: Well, yes, but I mean...
[06:16] <GorillaWarfare> IShadowed_: Directly in front of Isarra, to the left of Sven
[06:16] <Ironholds> have fun without me. really for fun the last bit was a requisite.
[06:16] <IShadowed_> lucky Guerillero, sitting in between all of us
[06:16] <IShadowed_> or unlucky
[06:16] <IShadowed_> whichever.
[06:16] <Isarra> Is it rude to ask people's names in here?
[06:16] <Ironholds> IShadowed_ and sven...
[06:17] <IShadowed_> Sven needs to get on irc so I can propose
[06:17] <GorillaWarfare> Isarra: Depends who it is :P'
[06:17] <Ironholds> Isarra: depends how you do it
[06:17] <Ironholds> if you march up to them and scream
[06:17] <Ironholds> "WHAT IS YOUR NAME. WHAT IS YOUR UNIT. WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER. RIGHT, GET THE THUMBSCREWS"
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[06:17] <Ironholds> then yes it is a problem
[06:17] <Guerillero> safe spaces!
[06:17] <Isarra> What's EVula's name?
[06:17] <Ironholds> eric
[06:17] <Ironholds> ?k?
[06:17] <IShadowed_> gahh I forgot my glasses, just realized
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[06:17] <Isarra> Okay, so he is Eric?
[06:17] <Ironholds> probably!
[06:17] <Ironholds> but not Erik Moller
[06:18] <IRWolfie-> the wikicite referencing scheme seems pretty horrific
[06:18] <Ironholds> anyway I need to go grump on a plane
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[06:18] <Guerillero> have fun
[06:18] <Isarra> And the physical similarity to Erik and the Eric I used to work with is a coincidence?
[06:18] <Isarra> Ghaaaah.
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[06:19] <IShadowed_> omg a Pharos
[06:19] <IShadowed_> I liked your shirt
[06:20] <GorillaWarfare> Anyone got a coffee? Grr
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[06:20] <Isarra> I want my mountain dew back.
[06:20] <IRWolfie-> good thinking, time for coffee
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[06:20] <IRWolfie-> just put my contacts in, may have put them in backwards, gah
[06:20] <IShadowed_> stalking
[06:20] <froodphone> IShadowed_: sven is like 20 years older than you
[06:20] <IShadowed_> HEY I CAN DREAM
[06:20] <IShadowed_> OKAY
[06:21] <GorillaWarfare> Heh, I love watching sign language interpreters
[06:21] <Isarra> But GorillaWarfare, you slept.
[06:21] <Isarra> What is this?
[06:21] <IShadowed_> I only see one
[06:21] <IShadowed_> are there more?
[06:21] <GorillaWarfare> Isarra: This is true...
[06:21] <GorillaWarfare> IShadowed_: Just the one. I meant I love watching them in general.
[06:21] <Pharos> i'm glad someone liked my shirt
[06:21] <IShadowed_> ah, yus
[06:22] <froodphone> Pharos: I also like it.
[06:22] <Guerillero> hehe
[06:22] <IShadowed_> stfu frood
[06:22] <IShadowed_> :3
[06:22] <Isarra> I like mountain dew.
�06[06:22] * Isarra didn't actually see it.
[06:22] <GorillaWarfare> How is everyone seeing Pharos' shirt?
�06[06:22] * IShadowed_ stalks
[06:22] <Pharos> i'm curious too!
[06:22] <IShadowed_> I haven't said hi though
[06:22] <IShadowed_> Again, socially awkward
[06:23] <Pharos> i had a tie that was pretty impressive the other night :P
[06:23] <GorillaWarfare> I can verify ^
[06:23] <IShadowed_> I am trying to caffeinate myself to the point where I will actually be relaxed tomorrow
[06:23] <froodphone> God dammit I could've told you I was at wikimania
�06[06:23] * IShadowed_ did not see :(
[06:23] <IShadowed_> froodphone, I would've called bs
[06:23] <froodphone> And say I'm sitting next to someone
[06:23] <Isarra> Caffeine relaxes you?
[06:23] <IShadowed_> Yeah, actually
[06:24] <Isarra> Huh.
[06:24] <froodphone> And you all would have talked to him like it was me
[06:24] <IShadowed_> nope
[06:24] <IShadowed_> I know what you looketh liketh
[06:24] <GorillaWarfare> I want Sue's shirt
[06:24] <Guerillero> it is very pink
[06:25] <Pharos> make her an offer
[06:25] <IShadowed_> ^
[06:25] <GorillaWarfare> Guerillero: Indeed, though the lighting designers are also using a pink gel on her
[06:25] <froodphone> IShadowed_: how
�06[06:25] * GorillaWarfare disapproves
[06:25] <IShadowed_> facebook?
[06:25] <froodphone> Oh rifgt
[06:25] <froodphone> Skype
[06:25] <IShadowed_> ^^^
�06[06:25] * Guerillero has no idea how you would know that
[06:25] <froodphone> Thing showed us his mantits
[06:25] <IShadowed_> man, I've known you people for so long
[06:25] <IShadowed_> 2009 :|
[06:25] <Guerillero> did you do stagecraft in HS
[06:25] <IShadowed_> I AM SO OLD
[06:26] <Guerillero> you joined when I did :D
[06:26] <haggis> IShadowed_: we're taking you to a home. you'll be happy there.
[06:26] <Isarra> Stop being so old.
[06:26] <froodphone> I lost that screenshot o think :(
[06:26] <Isarra> Going senile.
�06[06:26] * IShadowed_ sads at haggis 
[06:26] <IShadowed_> Who is haggis ?
[06:26] <Isarra> Someone who keeps changing nicks excessivly.
[06:26] <froodphone> Of tttsnb flashing us.
[06:26] <haggis> :O i've had  the same nick for a week
�06[06:26] * GorillaWarfare twitches
[06:26] <Isarra> It's very confusing.
[06:26] <Pharos> you don't want to know what haggis is
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[06:26] <Dagny> IShadowed_: So you're the old one now and not me? Good to know.
[06:26] <IShadowed_> OH
[06:27] <IShadowed_> Addihockey
[06:27] <froodphone> IShadowed_: addihockey
[06:27] <IShadowed_> Dagny, no you're old/er/
�06[06:27] * Isarra puts Dagny back to bed.
[06:27] <IShadowed_> and Shirik is oldEST
�06[06:27] * Isarra passes out on her.
[06:27] <IShadowed_> seeeeee how this progression works
[06:27] <IShadowed_> ~^.^!
�06[06:27] * Dagny flails
�06[06:27] * GorillaWarfare puts Isarra bak to bed
[06:27] <GorillaWarfare> *back
[06:28] <Isarra> Why do so few new users go on IRC in a... a
[06:28] <Isarra> Uh...
[06:28] <Isarra> Non idiotic fashion?
[06:28] <Isarra> Because it's really useful.
[06:28] <IShadowed_> Hardly
[06:28] <Isarra> There is a COMMUNITY here.
[06:28] <Guerillero> that is the question
[06:28] <IShadowed_> IRC was the most discouraging place as a new user
[06:28] <IShadowed_> It's even worse than on-wiki
[06:29] <Guerillero> sven got me to come
[06:29] <Isarra> As a new user this year, I found it lovely.
[06:29] <Guerillero> along with la painistia and sonia
[06:29] <haggis> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GodKing wtf
[06:29] <IShadowed_> People talk a lot more candidly on IRC due to familiarity
[06:29] <IShadowed_> dunno, wasn't pleasant for me back in 2008
[06:29] <froodphone> Steam told me I wasn't old enough to view a game page-. -
[06:29] <Isarra> People are much more talky words.
[06:29] <IShadowed_> now I don't mind as I'm one of the hecklers more than anything else
[06:29] <Isarra> Language is hard.
[06:29] <haggis> froodphone: age up!
�06[06:30] * Isarra heckles IShadowed_.
[06:30] <Dagny> Isarra: You need sleep, silly lady.
[06:30] <IShadowed_> Ooo who is that in the aisle
[06:30] <Guerillero> you are ickle
[06:30] <IShadowed_> Oooo.
[06:30] <Isarra> Dagny: Very.
[06:30] <IShadowed_> WTB brown shirt
[06:30] <Dagny> Very need sleep.
[06:30] <Isarra> Yes.
[06:31] <haggis> Hm, I need to figure something out.\
[06:31] <haggis> i've never done that before
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[06:31] <froodphone> I am a beautiful person.
[06:31] <froodphone> Why thank you SwiftKey
[06:31] <haggis> froodphone: you need to go to sleep, you're delirious
[06:32] <IShadowed_> group polarization with clapping
[06:32] <Isarra> He's the delirious one?
[06:34] <actress> hi
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[06:34] <IShadowed_> hi
[06:34] <haggis> actress: No, your article isn't going to be undeleted XD
[06:34] <Isarra> Cows.
[06:35] <Isarra> What do people have against the south?
[06:35] <Guerillero> of the US
[06:35] <haggis> Isarra: which south are we talking about
[06:35] <Isarra> The global south.
[06:35] <froodphone> Bible belt.
�06[06:35] * haggis doesn't
[06:35] <froodphone> Oh
�06[06:35] * Dagny likes the south, but that's because she's never been there.
[06:35] <IShadowed_> ^
[06:35] <Isarra> Apparently they think it's like the south of the us but in dire straites.
[06:35] <GorillaWarfare>  Anyone here want Starbucks after this?
[06:35] <IShadowed_> straights?
[06:36] <Guerillero> yus
[06:36] <Isarra> I want a smoothie.
[06:36] <froodphone> Meee
[06:36] <IShadowed_> straits
[06:36] <IShadowed_> yes.
[06:36] <Isarra> Hello, GorillaWarfare's head.
[06:36] <GorillaWarfare> Does Starbucks do smoothies?
[06:36] <GorillaWarfare> Isarra: Personal space invader!
[06:36] <haggis> :O
[06:36] <Guerillero> cremes
[06:36] <Isarra> They damn well should.
[06:36] <IShadowed_> http://youtu.be/iwDDswGsJ60
�06[06:36] * IShadowed_ dances
[06:36] <Isarra> GorillaWarfare: My laptop needs its personal space!
[06:36] <haggis> GorillaWarfare: You're a .... starbucks?
[06:36] <GorillaWarfare> haggis: No, not in the least. However, I happen to know that there is one very nearby.
[06:36] <haggis> one of those people who sits in starbucks with their little mac laptop :(
[06:37] <IShadowed_> hipsters
[06:37] <Isarra> I need painkillers.
[06:37] <GorillaWarfare> haggis: Goodness no
[06:37] <froodphone> Muffin pls
[06:37] <IShadowed_> I have ibuprofen
[06:37] <IShadowed_> if you want it
[06:37] <haggis> GorillaWarfare: thank god.l
[06:37] <GorillaWarfare> haggis: I do have a Mac, but I'm booting Windows 7 at the current moment
[06:37] <GorillaWarfare> If that makes you feel better
[06:37] <haggis> That makes me feel fantastic
[06:37] <haggis> :-)
�06[06:37] * IShadowed_ feels like a dealer
[06:37] <Isarra> ^^
[06:37] <IShadowed_> :3
[06:37] <haggis> IShadowed_: I have more than you, probably
[06:37] <Isarra> Dealers are important.
[06:37] <Guerillero> lol
[06:37] <IShadowed_> :P
�06[06:38] * haggis has leftover from surgury
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[06:38] <haggis> I kept forgetting things so I got this doctor that I met online to install an 8gb usb in my head.
[06:38] <actress> heyy
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[06:39] <IShadowed_> actress, can I help you?
[06:39] <actress> why oO
[06:39] <IShadowed_> you keep bouncing in and out of chan
[06:39] <IShadowed_> you need something?
[06:40] <Isarra> Now my head hurts.
[06:40] <Isarra> That's new.
[06:40] <IShadowed_> :(
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[06:40] <froodphone> haggis: 8gb won't hold mucj
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[06:40] <actress> of chan?
[06:40] <haggis> Isarra: sleep
[06:40] <Isarra> Flarg.
[06:40] <Isarra> haggis: Stuff it.
[06:41] <froodphone> The human brain can probably hold an equivalent of several petabytes
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[06:41] <smokeyrat> One hen -- several hens?
[06:41] <haggis> froodphone: I can account every pixel and every sound of four 1080p movies.
[06:41] <Isarra> Cowbells.
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[06:41] <haggis> froodphone: If I clear that from my head I can remember a lot.
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[06:41] <froodphone> Also interesting
[06:42] <haggis> it's 7:00AM and I haven't gotten to sleep yet.
[06:42] <Isarra> How many wikipedia readers know what wikimedia is?
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[06:42] <haggis> Isarra: 0.
�06[06:42] * Isarra strangles haggis.
[06:42] <haggis> otherwise they'd be wikimedia readers.
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[06:43] <froodphone> Each time a male ejaculates there is around 10gb of data I believe
[06:43] <GorillaWarfare> ...
[06:43] <froodphone> "data"
[06:43] <GorillaWarfare> o.O
[06:43] <haggis> wtf
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[06:43] <actress> o_O
[06:43] <IShadowed_> if an admin could get me the content on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arnie_Kuenn&action=edit&redlink=1 that would be great
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[06:44] <haggis> IShadowed_: abuse.
[06:44] <GorillaWarfare> IShadowed_: Sure, one sec
[06:44] <haggis> 7400 down, 17600 to go
[06:44] <IShadowed_> ty
[06:44] <Guerillero> you are sitting next to three
[06:44] <IShadowed_> ikr.
[06:45] <haggis> IShadowed_: You should RfA.
[06:45] <IShadowed_> No.
[06:45] <IShadowed_> I would fail miserably.
[06:45] <Guerillero> she could pass
[06:45] <IShadowed_> Nope.
[06:45] <Guerillero> yes
[06:45] <IShadowed_> Nope.
[06:45] <IShadowed_> I have a bad IRC reputation and only a decent one onwiki
[06:45] <IShadowed_> Wouldn't pass.
[06:45] <froodphone> I would fail.
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[06:46] <froodphone> Yes IShadowed_, remember what you did with the topic one time?
[06:46] <haggis> I failed.
[06:46] <haggis> x3
[06:46] <haggis> :-D
[06:46] <Guerillero> i bet you would IShadowed
[06:46] <haggis> so I stopped editing enwp, because I'm tired of the bs
[06:46] <IShadowed_> I've done many things to it. You're probably talking about the ejaculation one, though :|
[06:47] <IShadowed_> Guerillero, nope
[06:47] <tommorris> IShadowed_: wait, what, ejaculation?
[06:47] <Isarra> Think if I tried an rfa I'd come out without being blocked?
[06:47] <haggis> tommorris: is that a stalkword of yours?
[06:47] <haggis> :-P
[06:47] <Isarra> Nevermind passing. That's an obvious impossibilirty.
[06:47] <IShadowed_> I um, changed the -en topic two years ago to something like "Snow is just god's ejaculation"
[06:47] <tommorris> haggis: but of course.
[06:47] <IShadowed_> So that was uh, classy.
[06:47] <haggis> IShadowed_: ? I thought I said that at one point
[06:47] <haggis> or maybe that was IRL.
[06:48] <IShadowed_> you probably stole it from me, obvs
�06[06:48] * Dagny hugs tommorris
[06:48] <smokeyrat> One hen -- several hens?
[06:48] <haggis> Bull.
[06:49] <IShadowed_> oh, the mystical Q&A
[06:49] <IShadowed_> "what the fuck do you guys do"
[06:49] <GorillaWarfare> Over schedule?
[06:49] <GorillaWarfare> My coffee break!
�06[06:49] * GorillaWarfare sobs
[06:49] <froodphone> Well I guess I did tell you do do that IShadowed_
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[06:50] <IShadowed_> who is the guy directly in the middle?
[06:50] <IShadowed_> he looks familiar but I don't recall his name
[06:50] <froodphone> Logan?
[06:50] <tommorris> IShadowed_: with the glasses? that's SJ
[06:50] <IShadowed_> who?
[06:50] <tommorris> SJ Klein
[06:50] <IShadowed_> Hmm, maybe I've only seen his photo then
[06:50] <IShadowed_> name isn't familiar
[06:50] <IShadowed_> (also thanks)
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[06:50] <froodphone> He's a steward I thibk
[06:50] <tommorris> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sj
[06:51] <tommorris> no relation to the infamous Essjay
[06:51] <Isarra> Awww.
[06:51] <wctaiwan> Oh, essjay.
[06:51] <wctaiwan> even I know about that one.
[06:51] <Isarra> I don't.
[06:51] <froodphone> Heard of it, article is tldr
[06:51] <GorillaWarfare> wctaiwan: Not essjay
[06:51] <Dagny> I can't stop hiccuping.
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[06:51] <Isarra> I was talking to some sj yesterday,
[06:52] <GorillaWarfare> Essjay is VERY different from SJ, haha
[06:52] <Isarra> I don't know who it was or anything.
[06:52] <Guerillero> nice guy
[06:52] <wctaiwan> yeah, different person
[06:52] <GorillaWarfare> Yeah
[06:52] <GorillaWarfare> Super nice
[06:52] <Isarra> But I'd heard of essjay.
[06:52] <IShadowed_> <3 Kat
[06:52] <wctaiwan> Isarra: falsified credentials and stuff.
[06:52] <Isarra> Awww.
[06:52] <GorillaWarfare> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essjay_controversy
[06:52] <wctaiwan> (Essjay, not SJ)
[06:52] <Guerillero> mindspillage
[06:52] <Isarra> Brains.
[06:52] <IRWolfie-> ah I was wondering why essjay was familar
[06:53] <wctaiwan> GorillaWarfare: not often that a wikipedia incident warrants something in article space.
�06[06:53] * GorillaWarfare immediately likes this guy
[06:53] <tommorris> ha, I'm being quoted by Ting
[06:53] <IShadowed_> :3
[06:53] <haggis> GorillaWarfare: he's editing again!
[06:53] <Guerillero> :D
[06:53] <shim-busy> wctaiwan: about once a year, these days
[06:53] <Isarra> Oh, this is Ting?
[06:54] <Isarra> Were people talking about a ting?
[06:54] <tommorris> it's a ting ting
[06:54] <Isarra> At some point... somewhere.
[06:54] <Isarra> I see.
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[06:57] <closedmouth> good to know
[06:57] <froodphone> actress: turn that off or someone will maul you.
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[07:05] <IRWolfie-> note that an ip is making unsubstianted claims that a requestee is racist at RFA
[07:06] <froodphone> IRWolfie-: where?
[07:06] <Guerillero> need a mop?
[07:06] <haggis> http://barneysvideoresume.com/video/himym_barney_video_resume_med.mov
[07:06] <IRWolfie-> froodphone: I wa[C[Cs bold and removed it, the editor may reappear though
[07:06] <IRWolfie-> *was
[07:07] <IRWolfie-> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_adminship%2FBbb23&diff=502229546&oldid=502228996
[07:07] <IRWolfie-> sounds like a sockpuppet or similar
[07:08] <IRWolfie-> i.e sounds like a long term editor
[07:08] <Guerillero> yes
[07:08] <Guerillero> i may semi the page
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[07:14] <Qcoder00> Afternoon
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[07:14] <Guest59937> Is there a coordinate conversion tool on Wikipedia?
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[07:17] <tommorris> my session is on next. come along now.
[07:17] <IRWolfie-> what's the topic?
[07:17] <IRWolfie-> and also, is there any update on whether there is live streaming
[07:17] <IRWolfie-> google fails me
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[07:21] <IRWolfie-> aha, I think I've found it http://www.livestream.com/techstate/video?clipId=pla_31b9632d-2516-4f80-a11c-0588a51a1047&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb
[07:22] <wctaiwan> er, what's that livestream for?
[07:22] <wctaiwan> it doesn't look like wikimania...
[07:23] <IRWolfie-> gah!
[07:23] <IRWolfie-> back to google it is
[07:23] <wctaiwan> er, it might be.
[07:23] <wctaiwan> I really don't know.
[07:23] <wctaiwan> I'm just saying it doesn't look like wikimania.
[07:23] <wctaiwan> the lack of any WMF branding and all that on the slides.
[07:24] <IRWolfie-> yes it probably isn't, I was lead there by a link on twitter
[07:24] <IRWolfie-> (which I found through google)
[07:24] <wctaiwan> ah
[07:25] <IRWolfie-> some of the slides seem to mention wikimania
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[07:26] <wctaiwan> seems like a Department of State thing.
[07:26] <wctaiwan> er,
[07:27] <wctaiwan> state department
[07:27] <wctaiwan> don't know what got into me there.
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[07:28] <closedmouth> what's wroing with department of state?
[07:28] <Frood> I cannot decide between a WD Caviar Black or a Seagate Barracuda.
[07:28] <wctaiwan>  oh, right, that's the formal name
�06[07:28] * wctaiwan mutters about confusing names
[07:28] <Frood> I can get a 3TB Barracuda for about the same price as a 2TB Black
[07:30] <Frood> I also discovered WD Red, for NAS
[07:31] <Frood> Which goes up to 3TB, it seems to combine parts of WD Black and WD Green
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[07:31] <Frood> better RAID performance, error recoverability et al.
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[07:33] <Frood> But WD doesn't say the RPM for Red...
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[07:33] <Soapy> surprised no ones talking about the CUOS appts
[07:34] <Soapy> all this build up and now that it's happened it's not exciting anymore
[07:35] <Soapy> unless you were while I was asleep
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[07:37] <Frood> Soapy: where the hell are they announced?
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[07:37] <Soapy> I dont know if there was an actual announcement
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[07:38] <Soapy> but they made the appointments and you can see that by hovering over the nicks on http://tinyurl.com/CUOS-2012
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[07:38] <Bob8> I need help
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[07:39] <Dagny> Bob8: With?
[07:39] <Bob8> I want to make an article
[07:39] <Bob8> Article
[07:39] <Soapy> it looks like there's soemthing on meta too
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[07:39] <Dagny> Bob8: There's an article creation wizard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WIZARD
[07:39] <Soapy> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/?diff=prev&oldid=3905609#Oversight_access
[07:39] <closedmouth> arb nticeboard
[07:39] <closedmouth> noticeboard
[07:40] <Soapy> also https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArbitration_Committee%2FNoticeboard&diff=502166291&oldid=501356946
[07:40] <Soapy> heh
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[07:41] <Bob8> I want to make an article called "Atheism in Indonesian law"
[07:41] <Soapy> ok
[07:41] <closedmouth> have fun
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[07:41] <Bob8> It's very contrversial though
[07:41] <Soapy> is this article basically going to be written from scratch?
[07:42] <Bob8> Yes
[07:42] <Bob8> I have been here for a week
[07:42] <Bob8> How do I make this sensitive and contrversial article
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[07:43] <Frood> LessHeard vanU retired.
[07:43] <Dagny> Bob8: Do you have an account?
[07:43] <Bob8> Yes
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[07:43] <Dagny> Bob8: Well, you can work on it in your sandbox, to be safe.
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[07:44] <Frood> and BigDom resigned admin
[07:44] <foks> Aw. :(
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[07:46] <Bob8> Can you give me something less contrversial to create
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[07:47] <Dagny> Bob8: Uh, didn't you decide on that topic out of choice?
[07:47] <shim-busy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles
[07:47] <Bob8> No
[07:47] <Bob8> I found it in requested articles, Law
[07:47] <Dagny> Well, pick another article perhaps :)
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[07:56] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: an article already exists which covers the topic
[07:56] <IRWolfie-> you could consider expanding it instead
[07:56] <IRWolfie-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists#Islamic_countries
[07:57] <Bob8> It covers it too briefly
[07:57] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: expand it :)
[07:57] <Bob8> We need a singular article
[07:57] <Bob8> It could be a stand-alone main
[07:57] <wctaiwan> foks!
[07:57] <Bob8> I make articles that make people go "Whou!"
[07:58] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: sure, but if you start off from that article and expand it, then you can split it when it's too large
[07:58] <foks> Hi wctaiwan
[07:58] <Bob8> Not some nerdy science article
[07:58] <wctaiwan> I've been meaning to ask you. As a native of Scotland and a resident of the Australian city, do you think Perth, WA is the primary topic for [[Perth]]?
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[07:58] <Soapy> oh boy
[07:58] <Bob8> I don't want people to think I am a geek
[07:58] <Soapy> the great perth debate
[07:59] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: oi, I edit science articles
[07:59] <IRWolfie-> :|
[07:59] <Frood> if you're editing wikipedia for good, you're a geek.
[07:59] <wctaiwan> (mere curiosity. I hadn't even heard of the city in Scotland prior to seeing the move war, but..)
[07:59] <Bob8> HOW DARE YOU CALL ME A GEEK YOU INSOLENT PIECE OF **** ****
[07:59] <Soapy> as a native of America and without even looking to see which article is presently there, I choose Australia
[08:00] <IRWolfie-> I would think perth wctaiwan
[08:00] <Soapy> Perth is the capital of Western Australia
[08:00] <Bob8> Sorry
[08:00] <Soapy> sure, the Scottish city is certain;ly older, but that doesnt make it more important
[08:00] <Bob8> Just lost me temper
[08:00] <Dagny> wctaiwan: I come from Perth Scotland
[08:00] <wctaiwan> yeah well Soapy. I'm not really asking "which is right", but specifically what foks thinks, seeing as he's probably as knowledgeable as it gets around here :p
[08:01] <wctaiwan> Dagny: seems like a lovely place, judging from the photos.
[08:01] <IRWolfie-> Dagny: so which do you think should be the main target?
[08:01] <foks> wctaiwan, while I would rather avoid that topic, I would say both are important enough to cancel one-another out in different ways.
[08:01] <wctaiwan> OK. Thank you.
[08:01] <Dagny> I wouldn't say Perth, WA meets the primary topic criteria perfectly based on educational value and long term significance, but most arguments FOR it are based on the fact that most of the traffic goes there
[08:01] <IRWolfie-> I can't believe I said, "I would think Perth", I meant I would think Perth, Australia
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[08:01] <foks> wctaiwan, Perth, Scotland, is the older and more culturally significant of the two. Perth, WA, is certainly the bigger and more popular topic nowadays.
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[08:02] <wctaiwan> Yes, well, that's what the argument boils down to.
[08:02] <foks> If I *had* to pick, I would say the Australian Perth is the more likely search term
[08:02] <foks> But keeping [[Perth]] a dab page isn't the worst idea
[08:02] <Dagny> I did vote to keep "Perth" as a disamb page
[08:02] <Bob8> Am I a good editor, Or a bad one!
[08:02] <IRWolfie-> dab page sounds best
[08:03] <foks> I would probably say [[Perth]] is best as a dab page.
[08:03] <wctaiwan> Bob8: link us to your work?
[08:03] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: we can't know as we haven't seen your contributions
[08:03] <Bob8> Not with that big flamin' IP
[08:04] <foks> You realise everyone can see your IP in here, given you're not identified
[08:04] <wctaiwan> it's interesting. Everyone pretty much reacted as I expected them to. People who know about the Scottish city would say it's significant, but most people don't.
[08:04] <Dagny> wctaiwan: That depends though
[08:04] <wctaiwan> (don't know about it, that is)
[08:04] <Dagny> On what side of the globe you're on
[08:04] <closedmouth> i think the town in tasmania is more important
[08:05] <IRWolfie-> wctaiwan: I've heard of both about equally
[08:05] <Dagny> I mean plenty of European peeps know about Perth, Scotland. It's twin cities, and the Polish all know about it seeing as they go to live there.
[08:05] <closedmouth> perth has an inflated sense of self-importance
[08:05] <IRWolfie-> which is probably not a good think for Perth, Scotland since I'm several thousand miles closer to it
[08:05] <closedmouth> even though it's pathetically small
[08:05] <IRWolfie-> closedmouth: which one?!
[08:05] <wctaiwan> Huh okay. I'm just a philistine, then. :p
[08:05] <closedmouth> WA
[08:06] <closedmouth> the one i walk through every day
[08:06] <IRWolfie-> aha, thought you were referring to the town in tasmania
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[08:06] <foks> closedmouth, Perth's massive. Just not in terms of people.
[08:06] <wctaiwan> Dagny: I was guessing that people in the UK would be familiar with the scottish city, but not so much the rest of Europe, fwiw.
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[08:07] <closedmouth> not really
[08:07] <Soapy> while we're at it let's move Birmingham, Alabama back to [[Birmingham]]
[08:07] <Dagny> wctaiwan: Well, the Polish are. Something to do with WWII.
[08:07] <IRWolfie-> wctaiwan: I live outisde the UK and I've heard of it
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[08:07] <Soapy> it's bigger!
[08:07] <wctaiwan> Soapy: '''Support''' :p
[08:07] <IRWolfie-> :D
[08:08] <IRWolfie-> luckily Dublin, Texas is quite small
[08:08] <Bob8> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_million_pound_banknote
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[08:08] <wctaiwan> :s
[08:09] <wctaiwan> not sure that has independent notability, really...
[08:09] <DennisBrown>  Hey IRWolfie, saw where you reverted at RfA, and the IP reverted the personal attack back.  Had I not been a nom, I would have reverted again.  Another admin should look at that.
[08:09] <wctaiwan> or we'd be having tons of "World's ____est" articles
[08:09] <closedmouth> > The note, which was numbered 000008, which was produced after World War One.
[08:09] <Dagny> DennisBrown: You lurk here?
[08:09] <IRWolfie-> DennisBrown: I'm not an admin but notified some here
[08:09] <Bob8> Is it OK
[08:10] <Bob8> BBC news is without doubt------------------Super Notable
[08:10] <Bob8> You can't Xfd it
[08:10] <wctaiwan> that's not what I'm saying, Bob8.
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[08:11] <wctaiwan> it may be worth a mention in sections in say, [[Marshall Plan]] or [[Pound sterling]]
[08:11] <wctaiwan> but I don't think it should have its own article.
[08:11] <IRWolfie-> another admin has just removed it
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[08:13] <Bob8> Wait
[08:13] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: what you need to find is more mentions in sources that demonstrate that the topic is notworthy
[08:14] <Bob8> I can expand it
[08:14] <Bob8> Done
[08:14] <foks> http://enwp.org/WP:1E
[08:14] <Bob8> Daily mail and BBC news
[08:14] <Bob8> Is that enough for you lot
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[08:15] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: don't stop now, keep expanding
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[08:16] <Bob8> You win
[08:16] <IRWolfie-> if you can find lots of sources expand the article, note the links foks gave, you need to demonstrate more than news coverage
[08:16] <Bob8> I will G7
[08:16] <IRWolfie-> ?!
[08:16] <foks> um
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[08:16] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: that is the opposite of what I am saying
[08:16] <foks> No, wait.
[08:16] <Bob8> Apperently Dailymail and BBC news are lies
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[08:16] <wctaiwan> whaaa?
[08:17] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: We are giving suggestions about how you can improve this article further
[08:17] <Bob8> Fine
[08:17] <Bob8> This must be how you treat all 1 week editors
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[08:17] <foks> lol
[08:18] <wctaiwan> Bob8: IRWolfie- says you should expand it. I said it should probably be covered in articles on [[Pound sterling]] or [[Marshall Plan]] if independent notability can not be established. No one here is saying the article contains things that are not true..
[08:18] <foks> Calm down laddie
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[08:19] <foks> I would add that content, Bob8, to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HM_Treasury#Banknote_issue
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[08:24] <haggis> foks: do you know how to get more than 25000 pages in the queue for awb
[08:24] <foks> I haven't used AWB since 2009
[08:25] <Soapy> 25000 is a lot
[08:26] <Soapy> ha! Bbb is up to 97% support
[08:26] <Soapy> not bad for an RfA that started out with an oppose and no supports
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[08:29] <Bob8> This bank note was in the guiness book of records AND starred in a major Holly-Wood movie
[08:29] <Bob8> And you still don't think it's significant
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[08:31] <Mrmatiko> Bob8, adding content to existing articles is often much more useful than creating a new article. For one thing more people will see it.
[08:31] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: noone has stated it is not significant
[08:31] <IRWolfie-> (I added the guinness book of records source)
[08:31] <[Bazinga]> Soapy: I've made 8821 edits today and counting :-P
[08:31] <[Bazinga]> Yes, it's a lot.
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[08:31] <IRWolfie-> Autotools just mess up all statistics :|
[08:32] <Bob8> Fuck
[08:32] <Bob8> Edit conflict
[08:32] <[Bazinga]> IRWolfie-: what?
[08:32] <IRWolfie-> [Bazinga]: I'm just kidding, I'm referring to WP:MOSTEDITS
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[08:34] <Bob8> Oh
[08:34] <Bob8> Let's just move it
[08:34] <Bob8> Let me move it
[08:34] <[Bazinga]> IRWolfie-: It's not on enwiki
[08:34] <[Bazinga]> and I wouldn't be concerned about who has the most edits XD
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[08:35] <IRWolfie-> [Bazinga]: oh I missed that part, what's it on?
[08:35] <[Bazinga]> tr.wiki
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[08:35] <Bob8> I need to make another article
[08:37] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: if you aren't sure what to write about why not just contribute to existing articles
[08:37] <Bob8> What about nerdy plant articles
[08:38] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: why not keep looking for more sources about the million dollar note that you made so you can expand it further?
[08:38] <Soapy> i miss NerdyScienceDude
[08:38] <Bob8> Because it's crap
[08:39] <Soapy> youcve made 8000 edits??
[08:39] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/addihockey10
[08:39] <[Bazinga]> Soapy: trwiki
[08:39] <Soapy> not on enwiki apparently
[08:39] <Soapy> ok
[08:39] <Bob8> I found telegraph and lots of other sources
[08:39] <Soapy> I didnt know you spoke Turkish
[08:39] <[Bazinga]> and it's addihockey10_(automated)
[08:39] <[Bazinga]> I don't
[08:39] <[Bazinga]> someone requested the edits
[08:39] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: you don't need to make new articles to be productive, I've only made a grand total of 5 articles
[08:39] <Soapy> ok
[08:39] <IRWolfie-> and 3 of them were splits
[08:40] <[Bazinga]> and besides, it's just file replacements
[08:40] <[Bazinga]> awb can handle
[08:40] <IRWolfie-> you can instead focus on improving existing articles
[08:40] <[Bazinga]> however, Soapy could you generate a list of articles which a specific template is transcluded on?
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[08:40] <Soapy> http://toolserver.org/~tparis/pcount/index.php?name=Addihockey10+(automated)&lang=tr&wiki=wikipedia
[08:41] <Soapy> hm
[08:41] <Soapy> I didntk now you were so active cross-wiki
[08:41] <Soapy> however, Soapy could you generate a list of articles which a specific template is transcluded on? < --- eh?
[08:42] <Soapy> I think there's Special:WhatLinksHere, which should work on all wikis
[08:42] <[Bazinga]> Soapy: That's all I do :-)
[08:42] <Bob8> Bruv
[08:42] <[Bazinga]> Well I don't want to crash my browser
[08:42] <[Bazinga]> the list of articles surpasses 25000
[08:42] <Bob8> I have lots of edit on simple wiki
[08:42] <Bob8> On another account
[08:42] <Bob8> 1 account for enwp
[08:42] <[Bazinga]> and AWB can't load them all
[08:42] <Bob8> 1 for simple wiki
[08:43] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: you can use the same account on all wikipedia languages
[08:43] <[Bazinga]> IRWolfie-: Not necessarily
[08:43] <Bob8> Really!?
[08:43] <Bob8> How
[08:43] <Soapy> oh that
[08:43] <Soapy> I have no idea then
[08:43] <Soapy> 25000 articles is a lot
[08:43] <Bob8> How
[08:44] <[Bazinga]> I know XD
[08:44] <[Bazinga]> woo reached 9000 today
[08:44] <IRWolfie-> Bob8: if it works it should be pretty much automatic
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[08:44] <[Bazinga]> 15047 more pages to process
[08:44] <IRWolfie-> log in with the same account
[08:44] <IRWolfie-> I forget if there was something needed to activate the feature
[08:44] <Mrmatiko> Bob8, click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MergeAccount while logged in to whichever is your "home" wikipedia
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[08:45] <Bob8> Oh fuck
[08:45] <Bob8> I am an idiot
[08:45] <Bob8> And you lot didn't think to even check
[08:46] <IRWolfie-> check what?
[08:46] <Bob8> Is it possible to bring the two accounts together
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[08:46] <IRWolfie-> why would we be checking that?
[08:46] <Bob8> Like, I dunno, merge the 2 accounts
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[08:47] <Bob8> Is it possible
[08:47] <Bob8> How do I merge the 2 accounts
[08:48] <Mrmatiko> Bob8, do they have the same name?
[08:48] <Bob8> No
[08:48] <IRWolfie-> you can just abandon one account and then go to the above link which lets you use one account across wikipedia
[08:49] <IRWolfie-> (and then note on the active account userpage what the other account was)
[08:49] <[Bazinga]> or just get Barras or someone to rename it
[08:49] <IRWolfie-> or that
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[08:50] <Soapy> Compulsory religious instruction in Turkish schools is also considered discriminatory towards atheists.[93]
[08:50] <Soapy> hm
[08:50] <Soapy> turkeys a complicated place
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[08:51] <Bob8> I will abandon the simple wiki account
[08:51] <Bob8> and use my current one
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[08:54] <Chariotephant> Could we put the title of the 4,000,000 article on the main page banner that thanks our contributors for creating 4,000,000 articles?
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[08:55] <closedmouth> if you know what it was
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[08:56] <Bob8> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_million_pound_banknote
[08:56] <Bob8> Made it larger
[08:56] <Chariotephant> Closed, that Egyptian town.
[08:56] <Shearonink> 4 million....
[08:57] <Chariotephant> Something al burj, too dazed to remember.
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[08:57] <Soapy> al_burj is a building I think
[08:57] <closedmouth> the one in dubai?
[08:57] <Soapy> nope
[08:57] <Soapy> I was confused
[08:57] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Burj
[08:58] <Soapy> [[Burj Khalifa]] is the building
[08:58] <closedmouth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Al_Alam
[08:58] <Soapy> though I suppose it still could be called al-Burj
[08:58] <closedmouth> oh right
[08:58] <Soapy> since Burj is just the word for tower
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[08:59] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Al_Alam <-- wow they cant get enough tall buildings in the UAE, can they
[08:59] <wctaiwan> a town called tower?
[08:59] <Soapy> yeah
[08:59] <Soapy> there's [[Tower, Montana]] too ... not that unsuual
[08:59] <Soapy> maybe not
[08:59] <wctaiwan> "On 25 February 1953, five Arab shepherds were killed and mutilated by Israelis at al-Burj, including a 13-year-old."
[08:59] <wctaiwan> :s
[09:00] <Soapy> [[Tower, Minnesota]]. Shame on me
[09:00] <wctaiwan> this is the kind of content I feel conflicted about. It's probably true but... what's the relevance?
[09:00] <Soapy> Famous for being -60F one winter not too long ago
[09:00] <Soapy> Tower set the Minnesota record for coldest temperature on February 2, 1996, when the temperature dropped to -60°F (-51°C). This was the lowest temperature ever recorded in the United States east of the Great Plains.    : )
[09:00] <Chariotephant> Closedmouth, [[Izbat al-Burj]].
[09:01] <Soapy> minnesota has bragging rights over most of the world
[09:01] <Soapy> including Russia and most of Canada
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[09:01] <BlastHardcheese> wctaiwan: the relevance is that $ethnic_group is evil and if you remove this you are obviously a spy working for $country
[09:01] <wctaiwan> pretty much.
[09:01] <Chariotephant> So who can place Izbat al-Burj on the front page?
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[09:02] <Soapy>  Izbat al-Burj  is the 4000000th article?
[09:02] <Bob8> Now I have: BBC news, daily mail, Telegraph, indepent, Guiness book of records
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[09:02] <Soapy> yes
[09:02] <Soapy> proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Izbat_Al_Burj
[09:03] <Bob8> The 5 possibly MOST notable sources
[09:03] <Bob8> What more do you want
[09:03] <Soapy> nah, probably wont go on the front page
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[09:03] <Bob8> I can't find anything better
[09:04] <closedmouth> it's just a guess
[09:04] <Chariotephant> Soapy, Jordanhill went there shortly after we hit 1m so izbat al-burj deserves it.
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[09:05] <Shearonink> Are there any admins around, need to know what to do about this new editor who is doing odd re-directs/moves and creating apparent video-game hoax articles
[09:05] <Soapy> ok
[09:05] <Bob8> Me
[09:05] <Bob8> Who me
[09:05] <Bob8> O haven't been making hoaxes
[09:06] <Bob8> I haven't been making hoaxes
[09:06] <Soapy> original title was Izbat Al Borg
[09:06] <BlastHardcheese> yell at him
[09:06] <Bob8> me
[09:06] <Chariotephant> Dialectical variant?
[09:06] <Shearonink> Bob8: That was not directed to you, I just need to know what to do about this somewhat-problematic editor
[09:06] <Bob8> Who is it
[09:07] <Bob8> Link me to his talk page
[09:07] <Bob8> Oh yes
[09:08] <Soapy> *her
[09:08] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cdctmom6712
[09:08] <Soapy> assuming mom means shes a woman
[09:09] <Bob8> LOL
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[09:09] <Bob8> He's funny
[09:09] <Soapy> actually its looking more like a young kid
[09:10] <froodphone> Soapy: so I was rjgbt
[09:10] <froodphone> Right
[09:10] <Soapy> rjgbt
[09:11] <Bob8> He can't talk
[09:11] <Bob8> Silent editor
[09:11] <Bob8> Block Him
[09:12] <Shearonink> Bob8: I assume you're making a joke
[09:12] <Bob8> so may "!"
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[09:12] <Chariotephant> If the Izbat page isn't linked from the main, it won't get spruced up as heavily as Jordanhill did.
[09:12] <Bob8> I was making a joke
[09:13] <Bob8> I meant he does not respond to talk page massages
[09:13] <Bob8> You take things way to seriiously
[09:13] <Soapy> mmm ... massages
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[09:13] <Bob8> You took my jokes seriously
[09:14] <Bob8> But we DO need to block him
[09:14] <Chariotephant> Or ask him to come in here First.
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[09:16] <Soapy> i'll do it for a million dollars
[09:16] <Bob8> Do you know what I hate the most
[09:17] <Bob8> When editors make "friends"
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[09:17] <Bob8> We are here to work
[09:17] <Bob8> Not make friends
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[09:17] <froodphone> That's false
[09:18] <Bob8> what is
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[09:18] <froodphone> What you just said.
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[09:18] <Bob8> What
[09:18] <Bob8> We RARE here to work
[09:18] <Bob8> ARE
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[09:19] <froodphone> "We are here to work, not me friends.,
[09:19] <froodphone> Buckshot.
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[09:19] <froodphone> Bullshit
[09:19] <Bob8> make to me
[09:19] <Bob8> Ooooh
[09:19] <Bob8> You can say "Bullshit"
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[09:20] <Bob8> Why the heck would you make friends here
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[09:21] <Mrmatiko> Bob8, while friend lists are annoying, I think the fact that we have wikimania (http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page) and multiple methods to chat with other editors proves that we are partially here to make friends
[09:21] <froodphone> Why don't you ask one of the hundreds of people at wikimania?
[09:21] <froodphone> Such as GorillaWarfare
[09:22] <Bob8> If you need friends go to Face Book
[09:22] <froodphone> Or one of the people who got married to someone they met on Wikipedia
[09:22] <Bob8> LOL
[09:22] <Soapy> ok im justi gnoring bob8 now
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[09:22] <Bob8> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTDATINGSERVICE#DATINGSERVICE
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[09:23] <Soapy> cant do ctcp version to froodphone
[09:23] <Soapy> irc client apparently blocks it
[09:23] <Soapy> are you on androIRC?
[09:23] <froodphone> Obvious troll is obvious
[09:23] <Mrmatiko> Bob8, Wikipedia isn't a workplace, it is a community of people linked by their desire to produce a high quality encyclopedia containing the sum of all human knowledge
[09:23] <froodphone> Soapy: andchat
[09:23] <Soapy> i tried andoIRC once
[09:23] <Soapy> ok thanks
[09:23] <Soapy> maybe i'll try that
[09:23] <Bob8> If you need girl friends go to eharmony
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[09:23] <Soapy> anyway
[09:23] <Bob8> If you need friends go to FB
[09:24] <Bob8> Or twitter
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[09:24] <Soapy> I think Crctmom or whatever her name is will be blocked soon but at the moment isnt really worth blocking
[09:24] <Bob8> Who "got married to someone they met on Wikipedia"
[09:25] <froodphone> Did pathoschild and shanel meet on wp or off wp?
[09:25] <froodphone> They're both stewards and dating.
[09:25] <froodphone> Or married
[09:26] <Bob8> What happened to
[09:26] <Bob8> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTDATINGSERVICE#DATINGSERVICE
[09:26] <Bob8> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTSOCIALNETWORK#Wikipedia_is_not_a_blog.2C_webspace_provider.2C_social_network.2C_or_memorial_site
[09:26] <Bob8> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTWEBHOST#Wikipedia_is_not_a_blog.2C_webspace_provider.2C_social_network.2C_or_memorial_site
[09:26] <froodphone> WP:IAR
[09:26] <Bob8> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTFACEBOOK#Wikipedia_is_not_a_blog.2C_webspace_provider.2C_social_network.2C_or_memorial_site
[09:26] <Mrmatiko> Bob8, stop that
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[09:27] <Bob8> You lot are ignoring your own rules
[09:27] <froodphone> We know.
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[09:27] <Bob8> So if you can ignore rules
[09:27] <froodphone> Which is why I linked to wp:iar
[09:27] <Bob8> I will ignore them too
[09:27] <Shearonink> Bob8: You neglected to completely reference that link
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[09:28] <Shearonink> Bob8: Dating services. Wikipedia is not an appropriate place to pursue relationships or sexual encounters. User pages that move beyond broad expressions of sexual orientation are unacceptable. However, you very well may make new friendships as you go about improving the encyclopedia.
[09:28] <froodphone> Also, I wp:point and wp:dick
[09:28] <Bob8> "You neglected to completely reference that link"
[09:28] <Shearonink> you did
[09:28] <froodphone> Don't disrupt to make a point
[09:28] <Shearonink> IT was talking about userpages
[09:28] <Bob8> meaning
[09:28] <froodphone> Don't be a dick.
[09:28] <Bob8> So ig you ignore rules
[09:28] <TParis> Bob8: Certain things about oneself, including who one is married to, are acceptable on a userpage because it explains that user's editing habits.  "I am married to X wikipedian" is important to avoid violating WP:SOCK
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[09:29] <Shearonink> You cited the link but not the text behind the link, that is all.
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[09:29] <Bob8> I will ignore wp:VANDAL wp:BIO and wp:CITE
[09:29] <Bob8> per wp:IAR
[09:29] <froodphone> Rtfm.
[09:29] <Bob8> meaning
[09:29] <Mrmatiko> Bob8, I'd love to know which parts of those stop you from improving Wikipedia
[09:30] <froodphone> Read the fucking manual.
[09:30] <Bob8> Having to reference stops me adding content
[09:30] <Bob8> WOW
[09:31] <Bob8> you can say "fucking"
[09:31] <froodphone> You're right on the way for a rfarb.
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[09:31] <Bob8> what is rfarb
[09:31] <froodphone> Request for arbitration
[09:32] <Soapy> there i put a custom warning template on ctmom's page
[09:32] <Bob8> Please don't
[09:32] <froodphone> Often ends in the person being banned.
[09:32] <Bob8> Sorry
[09:32] <froodphone> Not blocked, Banned.
[09:32] <Bob8> Very sorry
[09:32] <Bob8> I am very sorry
[09:33] <closedmouth> no he isn't
[09:33] <Bob8> If I leave right now
[09:33] <froodphone> As in, rejected from the community.
[09:33] <Soapy> and I see that View Source Fever has been deleted
[09:33] <closedmouth> god shut up
[09:33] <Bob8> Bye
[09:33] <Bob8> Please don't report me
[09:33] <Bob8> please
[09:34] <closedmouth> nobody's gonna report you to arbcom
[09:34] <Shearonink> Bob8: We were discussing another editor, you
[09:34] <Bob8> I will never come here again
[09:34] <Shearonink> ve gotten confused
[09:34] <Bob8> And I will never edit again
[09:34] <mysterytrey> Bob8: Are you trolling, now?
[09:35] <Bob8> Well I am never gonna edit again
[09:35] <WilliamH_UK> Bob8 just file an ANI report on that person
[09:35] <Bob8> good-bye
[09:35] <WilliamH_UK> something clearly needs to be done
[09:36] <Bob8> I will play Runescape
[09:36] <Bob8> Since you are all against me!
[09:36] <Dagny> Please do.
[09:36] <Bob8> I will leave
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[09:37] <TParis> Good, I was about to ask for an op
[09:37] <mysterytrey> We coulda just all ignored him.
[09:37] <Dagny> Nutters and teenagers everywhere
[09:37] <Dagny> Gotta love summer
[09:37] <froodphone> I think that was that 10 year old again
[09:37] <froodphone> Deathlaser or whatever
[09:38] <closedmouth> prove it
[09:38] <Shearonink> The problem with all of us ignoring someone like that is if a newbie comes in they see all his posts
[09:38] <Dagny> froodphone: Yeah, I think so.
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[09:39] <froodphone> What was bob's onwiki bane
[09:39] <froodphone> Name
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[09:40] <Shearonink> I don;t know, if he said I missed it
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[09:40] <Guest59937> Anyone from GLAM around?
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[09:41] <closedmouth> froodphone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SolieLInitiative
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[09:41] <froodphone> Ugh, I hate that name. GLAM.
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[09:42] <Qcoder00> foordphon : Galleries, Libaries and Musems :)
[09:44] <Soapy> hm
[09:44] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UV_Diurnal_Erythemal_Dose_Rate_Per_Latitude_graph.png
[09:44] <Soapy> there's apparently not much difference between 40N and 20N in terms of sunburn
[09:44] <Soapy> but a big difference between 40N and 60N
[09:44] <Soapy> even in summer
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[09:44] <Qcoder00> Anyone?
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[09:49] <Soapy> Apparently drinking lemonade can cause sunburn to be worse
[09:49] <mysterytrey> Is there a ref on that?
[09:49] <Soapy> I got a picture
[09:50] <Soapy> it seems rather that it's spilled lemonade that can cause it, not drinking it
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[09:50] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytophotodermatitis
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[09:50] <Soapy> that pic might be bit disturbing to some people
[09:51] <mysterytrey> Spilling it seems to be more believable than drinking it.
[09:52] <Soapy> eh, i wouldnt be surprised if drinking lemonade can still at least have a small effect
[09:52] <Soapy> a lot of chemicals will end up in the bloodstream, and blood is found even in the outermost layers of the skin
[09:52] <Soapy> so the chemicals will get to your skin one way or another
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[09:52] <mysterytrey> Wouldn't that take time though.
[09:52] <Soapy> plus, if it's hot, youre probably sweating it out
[09:53] <mysterytrey> Oh yeah, I guess so.
[09:54] <Soapy> source pic didnt say he spilled anu
[09:54] <Soapy> *any
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[10:12] <Soapy> aw
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[10:30] <Frood> Protip: If you're going to sock, don't link a wiki on which you use the same name you previously used to sock with on Wikipedia.
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[11:06] <Shearonink> Anyone in here know the policy about use/overuse of quotes in an article?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Allan_Clark_(lawyer)_
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[11:28] <Son_Gohan> Had to reinstall because previously, I had installed it without my onboard NIC enabled, because back then I didn't intend to use it while it was connected to the network :P
[11:28] <Soapy> wb
[11:28] <Son_Gohan> I could have edited the /etc/network/interfaces file... but I couldn't be arsed ;)
[11:29] <Son_Gohan> Besides, trying to see what you're typing on a SD TV is remarkably painful :p
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[11:54] <IRWolfie-> away scripts :/
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[11:58] <actress> lol
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[12:23] <bed> kwami, what are you doing
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[12:26] <Task> I have a task for you
[12:27] <SigmaWP> Good to know
[12:27] <Task> Find me the largest picture in wikimedia commons
[12:28] <Task> In terms of file size
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[12:29] <Task> Can you do that
[12:29] <Task> Consider it a chellenge
[12:30] <SigmaWP> Can't you just google it
[12:31] <Task> If I google largest file on wikimedia commons nothing comes
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[12:32] <Task> So can you find it
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[12:33] <Shearonink> Task: No, sorry I cannot.
[12:33] <madafakaszit> yo niggaz
[12:33] <madafakaszit> england wymiata
[12:33] <Task> Why can't you
[12:33] <SigmaWP> Task: Why can't you?
�06[12:33] * Fluf[a]f[k] blinks
[12:33] <madafakaszit> Task- a dlatego, bo jesteś czarnuchem
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[12:34] <Task> I can't
[12:34] <Task> The largest I could find was 20MB
[12:34] <SigmaWP> Then chances are we can't either
[12:34] <Task> Can you find any larger
[12:34] <foks> madafakaszit, behave, please.
[12:34] <IShadowed_> NEVER
[12:34] <Task> Why not
[12:34] <Fluf[a]f[k]> sigh
[12:34] <Task> ou can make amazing .js
[12:34] <Task> You
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[12:35] <SigmaWP> Special:LargeFiles would be a good thing to have
[12:35] <SigmaWP> But we don't have that
[12:35] <Task> But can't find the biggest file
[12:35] <Fluf[a]f[k]> ok then
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[12:36] <SigmaWP> Isn't that redundant
[12:36] <foks> Sorry.
[12:36] <Task> So can you find the largest file for me
�06[12:36] * foks pokes SigmaWP in the eye.
[12:36] <foks> <3
[12:36] <Task> Unless you won't
[12:36] <Task> But Why, I wonder
[12:36] <foks> now I must dash as my battery is dead
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[12:37] <Task> What grudge do you have against me
[12:37] <Task> You know the
[12:37] <Task> Largest file
[12:37] <Task> But won't tell me
[12:37] <Task> #wikipedia-en-help
[12:39] <SigmaWP> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefSwitch
�06[12:39] * SigmaWP sighs, PHP
[12:40] <Task> So what is it
[12:41] <mysterytrey> :(
[12:41] <SigmaWP> Task: Find it yourself, we're not your personal slaves
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[12:43] <mysterytrey> Task: I have noticed that you and Bob8 both have the same IP: 176.25.218.49
[12:43] <mysterytrey> Were you him?
[12:43] <Soapy> what a coincidence!!
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[12:43] <Task> So what if I was
[12:44] <mysterytrey> Well last time, we were about to use the stalkword for op so they could ban, I believe.
[12:44] <SigmaWP> Task: You are a sock, it seems
[12:45] <mysterytrey> Task: Are you also that "deathlaser" person?
[12:45] <SigmaWP> Soapy: Please delete https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%CE%A3/Testing_facility/Commons.js as U1
[12:46] <IShadowed_> No
[12:46] <Task> So what if I am a sock
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[12:47] <Soapy> {[done}}
[12:47] <mysterytrey> Task: That is against policy, and will have you banned.
[12:47] <SigmaWP> Then fuck you, because you aren't supposed to be editing
[12:47] <SigmaWP> Soapy: Thanks
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[12:48] <Task> And you are swearing at me
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[12:48] <Demiurge1000> He is.
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[12:48] <Shearonink> Hey, I have a Helpee from the French Wikipedia asking a question about linkage in -help.  Since I am not a coding person, anyone want to take a crack at this>
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[12:48] <Task> So what have you got to say to me
[12:49] <Demiurge1000> Task: I have this to say to you. EAT MORE VEGETABLES!
[12:49] <Task> I already do
[12:49] <Task> But thank you for the advice
[12:49] <Task> So I ask you again
[12:49] <Task> What do you have to say to me
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[12:50] <SigmaWP> Task: I have nothing to say, but "Greyhound racing in Ireland is a hugely popular sport in Ireland and is mainly responsible for breeding the greyhounds that are sold to UK racing"
[12:50] <Demiurge1000> We have nothing to fear but fear itself! And moussaka!
[12:50] <Shearonink> The Helpee wants to know how to add the talklink to a page, like on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_wizard
[12:50] <mysterytrey> Looking back even further, you also have the same IP as helper44444 and captcha.
[12:51] <Task> So I ask you again, what do you want to say to me
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[12:51] <Demiurge1000> So I ask *you*, not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country!
[12:51] <Demiurge1000> Shearonink: I'm not sure we should be helping them if they're French? :S
[12:52] <Task> I don't understand what that means
[12:53] <Task> Ok, I have another question for you
[12:53] <BarkingFish> The answer is either 42, or like Demiurge1000 says, Eat more vegetables.
[12:54] <BarkingFish> :P
[12:54] <Task> Ok
[12:54] <Task> Do you know why I made another account
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[12:55] <Demiurge1000> No, we do not.
[12:55] <Task> Because I spent hours making articles and reverting vandalism
[12:55] <mysterytrey> Do we want to?
[12:55] <Task> Yet how do you repay me
[12:55] <Demiurge1000> Not enough of your articles were about vegetables, though.
[12:55] <Task> By Blocking me
[12:56] <Demiurge1000> Would you prefer to have been paid in parsnips?
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[12:56] <Task> I want all the articles I ever made delted
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[12:56] <Task> All my contribs nuked
[12:56] <Rcsprinter> No
[12:57] <BarkingFish> Tough, can't be done.
[12:57] <Task> But apperently that's asking too much
[12:57] <Demiurge1000> Yes, it is.
[12:57] <Task> It's unethical
�06[12:57] * Shearonink doesn't know what delted is...
[12:57] <BarkingFish> Once you make them, they're released under a creative commons license, which you are not allowed to revoke
[12:57] <Shearonink> Wikipedia is like a digital elephant....its database never forgets.
[12:58] <Rcsprinter> also it would be tough to persuade an oversighter to get rid of it permanently
[12:58] <Demiurge1000> BarkingFish: That's a contractual agreement though, and as a minor, he can't be bound by its terms.
[12:58] <Demiurge1000> Rcsprinter: Even if it's oversighted, it still exists.
[12:58] <BarkingFish> Then he shouldn't be contributing if he's not legally permitted to release under that license
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[12:58] <Demiurge1000> BarkingFish: ... that would affect about 40% of contributors ;)
[12:58] <BarkingFish> We can't have it both ways
[12:58] <SigmaWP> BarkingFish: WP doesn't do COPPA
[12:58] <Rcsprinter> BarkingFish: "which anyone can edit"
[12:58] <SigmaWP> And stuff
[12:59] <IRWolfie-> Task: you irrevocably gave the permission
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[12:59] <Task> Well, even though it is released under CC
[12:59] <BarkingFish> Either he's able to give permission, and release his contribs, or he's not - in which case every minor on Wikipedia who can't be bound to that contract should not be allowed to edit any further.
[12:59] <Soapy> welp, i guess we'd better ban all editors under 18
[13:00] <Demiurge1000> BarkingFish: That logically follows, yes. This is why logic is a bad thing.
[13:00] <Task> I am the copyright holder of that CC
[13:00] <Task> Right?
[13:00] <SigmaWP> Anti-Vulcans!
[13:00] <Rcsprinter> Task: look, the edits are staying and that's that. retire from wikipedia if you want. your contributions have been released
[13:00] <Demiurge1000> Task: Question does not make sense.
[13:01] <Demiurge1000> Task: If you were legally able to release the material in the manner required, then you have IRREVOCABLY released it, which means you can't change your mind.
[13:01] <Task> CC quite clearly states:
[13:01] <Task> With the understanding that: Waiver—Any of the above conditions can be waived if you get permission from the copyright holder.
[13:01] <Task> I am the copyright holder of that CC
[13:01] <SigmaWP> Task: So if we refuse to get your permission, it hasn't been waived? :O
[13:02] <BarkingFish> Task: Let me explain this in language you can understand.  The Creative commons license we use is one which says you can share anything you like, with attribution. Once you've done that, you cannot back out and say that you don't want to comply with it anymore.
[13:02] <Task> So, as the copyright holder, I can say thet all the conditions above can be waived
[13:02] <Task> Right?
[13:02] <BarkingFish> In short, now you've written all that stuff, you cannot undo it.  You released it to us, under that license - and you're not allowed to back out of it.
[13:02] <Soapy> what, are you trying to get us to delete the articles youve written?
[13:02] <Shearonink> yes Soapy that is what he wants
[13:03] <Soapy> ok
[13:03] <SigmaWP> Task: "Waived", meaning that "nobody has to comply with its terms, and they can do whatever they want with the text"
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[13:03] <Soapy> and have other people edited the articles youve created?
[13:03] <Soapy> if not, then sure
[13:03] <Soapy> if yes, then no
[13:03] <Soapy> Simple answer
[13:03] <Soapy> it's the same answer as every other editor who wants their pages deleted gets
[13:03] <IRWolfie-> what's the username anyway?
[13:04] <IRWolfie-> I want to see what articles we are talking about
[13:04] <Task> Deathlasersonline
[13:04] <Shearonink> If he wants all his edits deleted, then he would have to reveal all his WP-identities
[13:04] <Shearonink> *all* of them
[13:04] <IRWolfie-> ah I see, sockpuppet
[13:04] <Task> Do you know what the funny thing is?
�06[13:04] * Demiurge1000 does.
[13:04] <Soapy> wait, what? youre deathlaser??
[13:04] <Demiurge1000> But saying it would be rude.
[13:05] <Task> Despite all that powerful technology
[13:05] <Task> You only caught a small fraction of my socks
[13:05] <Demiurge1000> We still can't make milk into eggs!
[13:05] <Rcsprinter> I can
[13:05] <Demiurge1000> really?
[13:05] <Demiurge1000> hmm
[13:05] <Task> Yes, I am deathlaser
[13:05] <Demiurge1000> Rcsprinter: How?
[13:05] <Soapy> well, even if youre blocked, a sock, etc, general considerations like allowing you to delete your own pages still apply. But, again, if other people have edited them, you cant get them deleted
[13:06] <Rcsprinter> Demiurge1000: Switch it behind my back while pointing to the window.
[13:06] <Demiurge1000> aha!
[13:06] <Soapy> so pages like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copelatus_trilobatus could be deleted
[13:06] <Task> huh
[13:06] <Task> Sp
[13:06] <Task> So
[13:06] <Rcsprinter> Task: quick look over at the window! a flying pig
�06[13:07] * Rcsprinter quickly switches the eggs and milk
[13:07] <SigmaWP> FLYING COAL BALLS WHERE
[13:07] <Demiurge1000> mmm, portable pork
[13:07] <Rcsprinter> here's your eggs...
[13:07] <Task> What's to stop my making MORE socks
[13:07] <Rcsprinter> a rangeblock?
[13:07] <Task> Do you want to know how long that stops me for
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[13:07] <Demiurge1000> No.
[13:07] <SigmaWP> Task: You're wasting your time
[13:08] <Demiurge1000> But not mine.
[13:08] <Task> 3 hours
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[13:08] <Task> Turn router off
[13:08] <Rcsprinter> Demiurge1000: No, I like watching the flying pigs each day
[13:08] <Demiurge1000> 1. Turn router off.   2. Eat vegetables.  3. ???   4. Profit!
[13:08] <Rcsprinter> Get my fishing net, saves me going to the butchers :p
[13:08] <SigmaWP> Demiurge1000: :D
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[13:09] <Task> Turn router off-leave off for 2 mins-turn router on-IP changes
�06[13:09] * SigmaWP chomp $_;
[13:09] <Task> Turn router off-leave off for 3 hrs-turn router on-IP changes
[13:09] <Task> IP range changes
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[13:09] <SigmaWP> Task: Why are you telling us?
[13:09] <Rcsprinter> get a bigger rangeblock then Task; or contribute constructively with ONE account
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[13:09] <Demiurge1000> I think someone at your ISP has been taking a little too much LSD, Task.
[13:09] <SigmaWP> Task: Because I think the point of socking is to try to stay hidden
[13:10] <Task> what is LSD
[13:10] <Rcsprinter> drug
[13:10] <froodphone> Soapy: I'd venture to say that he's de facto banned already.
[13:10] <Task> meaning
[13:11] <Task> What does that mean
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[13:11] <Task> I SAID WHAT DOES THAT MEAN
[13:12] <SigmaWP> Task: If you can't understand that simple sentence...
[13:12] <Shearonink> Task: I really don;t understand why you spend so much time on a project that you seem to despise.
[13:12] <Demiurge1000> DHCP servers don't magically reconfigure themselves to use completely different IP ranges just because you turn off your router for three hours. Unless, as I say, the people administering them have been taking hallocinogens.
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[13:12] <froodphone^2> No sane person would unblock you
[13:12] <Demiurge1000> Shearonink: He doesn't despise it, he merely despises the people that administer it.
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[13:13] <Shearonink> WP= the people
[13:13] <froodphone^2> In this case, not even an insane person would.
[13:13] <Shearonink> ergo, he despises us.
[13:13] <Shearonink> since we are all editors
[13:13] <Shearonink> who help administer the project
[13:13] <Demiurge1000> Task: Maybe you should explain on Wikipediocracy what you think has been handled badly in your case. http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=15&sid=493d8b28c3d2f3520a9c0ddec7bf791a
[13:14] <SigmaWP> Bye!
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[13:14] <Task> Ok
[13:14] <Shearonink> so, the question remains... why does he spend so much of his time amongst those he despises.
[13:14] <Task> Here is what has been hadeled badly
[13:15] <russavia> Wikipediocracy? why explain shit on that traversty of a website
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[13:15] <Task> I came wanting to help
[13:15] <Fluf[a]f[k]> is it necessary to link to that place?
[13:15] <Task> But I was so confused
[13:15] <Demiurge1000> Task: No, I said *there*, not *here*. No-one here cares. Whereas, on Wikipediocracy, they want to here all about mistakes that have been made by administrators on Wikipedia.
[13:15] <IShadowed> Isarra, kill him
[13:15] <IShadowed> please
[13:15] <russavia> demiurge1000 the only thing wikipediocracy cares about is trolling and shit like that
[13:15] <froodphone^2> IShadowed: who
[13:15] <Demiurge1000> russavia: Are you banned from there?
[13:15] <IShadowed> I DEMAND AN OFFERING OF BLOOD
[13:16] <Task> I swikipediacracy a legal website
[13:16] <russavia> banned from where?
[13:16] <Task> If it is
[13:16] <Task> I will explain there
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[13:16] <Demiurge1000> Task: It's not an illegal website, if that's what you mean.
[13:16] <Demiurge1000> Good!
[13:16] <Task> Good
[13:16] <russavia> task i wouldn't waste my time with wikipediodiotcracy
[13:16] <Task> Since it's legal
[13:17] <Demiurge1000> russavia: From Wikipediocracy?
[13:17] <Task> I will explain there
[13:17] <froodphone^2> What.. SwiftKey is leaning to program.
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[13:17] <russavia> demiurge1000 i am not, nor will i ever be, active on Kohs' website
[13:17] <Isarra> IShadowed: how?
[13:18] <IShadowed> whatever is fast enough, Isarra
[13:18] <Demiurge1000> russavia: Why?
[13:19] <russavia> because kohs is a sad sad individual and is no more than a pathetic troll
[13:19] <Isarra> Okay, is it necessary?
[13:19] <russavia> and you can quote me on that
[13:19] <OlEnglish> kohs has bad intentions
[13:20] <russavia> and anyone who supports him or his site is no better
[13:20] <OlEnglish> i wouldn't be caught dead on his site either
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[13:21] <Task> Wikipediocracy is fantastic
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[13:21] <Task> They care
[13:21] <Demiurge1000>  ... about vegetables.
[13:21] <Keegan> ...
[13:21] <Keegan> lulz
[13:21] <Demiurge1000> In fact, I'm starting to think some of them *are* vegetables.
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[13:22] <Task> I just gave a super-emotional speech
[13:22] <russavia> if people on wikipediocracy talked about me to my face the way they talk about me there, i would punch them in the fucking mouth
[13:22] <russavia> and i am sure many people would be the same
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[13:23] <Task> Why do you all hate them
[13:23] <Keegan> Nothing matters more in speeches than emotions.  Not even thoughts or ideas.
[13:23] <Keegan> Hitler got that right.
[13:23] <russavia> true keegan
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[13:23] <Task> WOW
[13:23] <froodphone^2> Keegan: just stand up there and cry
[13:23] <froodphone^2> Instant win.
[13:23] <Task> listen to this
[13:24] <Task> They say they are touched by my speech
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[13:24] <Task> They want to promote my speech
[13:24] <Task> YES
[13:24] <Shearonink> I can;t listen, there's no audio
[13:24] <Task> I finally found people who think like me
[13:24] <Task> Who agree with me
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[13:24] <Task> Who are not against me
[13:25] <froodphone^2> Have fun getting stalked and outed.
[13:25] <Demiurge1000> And force-fed vegetables.
[13:25] <Fluf[a]f[k]> wtf is going on in here
[13:25] <Task> Are you saying that to me
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[13:25] <froodphone^2> I assume you're still talking about that wikipedialocracy
[13:26] <Task> I finally found more people just like me
[13:26] <froodphone^2> Annoying?
[13:26] <russavia> trolls?
[13:26] <Task> I found some guy who made 500 accounts
[13:26] <bastique> poke russavia
[13:26] <froodphone^2> More immature than a fetus?
[13:26] <russavia> obsessive compulsive?
[13:26] <Task> Only 100 caught
[13:27] <russavia> hi bastique howzit
[13:27] <bastique> blech.
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[13:27] <Task> He trust me so much he actually revealed some of his accounts to me
[13:27] <bastique> I'm annoyed
[13:27] <russavia> who has annoyed you now?
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[13:27] <Task> I am now promoted from Member to speech Giver
[13:27] <bastique> somebody on a non-wikipedia comment board posted, "Are you Cary Bass from Wikipedia???????????????????? blech"
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[13:27] <bastique> I don't know how to take that.
[13:28] <froodphone^2> Now you're bleach.
[13:28] <froodphone^2> Pour yourself down their throat.
[13:28] <Task> I am only 10
[13:28] <Fluf[a]f[k]> Task take it elsewhere please
[13:28] <Task> It's my 11th birth day next month
[13:28] <froodphone^2> Go elsewhere.
[13:29] <froodphone^2> The Internet is a scary place
[13:29] <froodphone^2> Really.
[13:29] <Task> Wikipediocracy
[13:29] <froodphone^2> It's dangerous.
[13:29] <russavia> hahah bastique
[13:29] <bastique> Do we need an op in here?
[13:29] <froodphone^2> There are people who want to find kids and stalk them.
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[13:29] <russavia> hence why i don't do WP in the real world lol
[13:29] <Demiurge1000> ... and force-feed them vegetables.
[13:29] <froodphone^2> I'm not trying to scare you, but really.
[13:30] <bastique> russavia, well, it doesn't help that I worked for the organization.
[13:30] <Task> Take your jokes else-where
[13:30] <Task> I never said anything remotely bad
[13:30] <froodphone^2> You said your age.
[13:30] <Task> so
[13:31] <froodphone^2> Being that young, you just got yourself in some danger.
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[13:32] <russavia> bastique, sure we all make mistakes in life we would rather undo ;)
[13:32] <BarkingFish> russavia, My mother certainly did :)  She had me :P
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[13:32] <Task> What danger
[13:32] <bastique> no, I got to meet wonderful people, try to make a difference.
[13:32] <Task> TEll me what danger
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[13:33] <russavia> try to make a difference......and did you? :P
[13:33] <Task> I am in no danger
[13:33] <russavia> you know what they say about good intentions, before you answer ;)
[13:33] <mysterytrey> People abduct kiddies, like you, task.
[13:33] <Task> Your jokes are no longer funny
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[13:33] <froodphone^2> It's really not a joke.
[13:34] <BarkingFish> Task. Your Public IP address is visible to all in this channel. That can actually be traced pretty much right down to where you're sitting at this particular moment. You're also a minor, being under 13, and combining the two together puts you potentially at risk.
[13:34] <Shearonink> The road to hell is paved with good intentions.  also....The road to hell is paved with committees.
[13:34] <froodphone^2> Why do you think that amber alerts exist?
[13:34] <BarkingFish> If you really are 11, do yourself an immediate favour - go join #freenode and ask them to provide you with an unaffiliated cloak, so that at least your IP is hidden from view.
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[13:34] <Task> I am not 11
[13:35] <froodphone^2> BarkingFish: gotta be 13 to register.
[13:35] <Task> I am 10
[13:35] <bastique> russavia, I was paddling upriver.
[13:35] <Task> I know of Geolocation
[13:35] <Task> Very inaccurate
[13:35] <Task> So many people tried it on me
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[13:35] <Task> All they could tell was that I am in London
[13:36] <froodphone^2> Uh, it's usually accurate to 30 meters or so.
[13:36] <Demiurge1000> OMG HE GAVE AWAY HIS LOCATION! HE'S IN LONDON!!!!
[13:36] <Task> Very big place
[13:36] <BarkingFish> Task, you'd be very surprised what people can do with the right software, and a copy of Google Maps or Google Earth.  I've geolocated people down before to within 2 doors away from where they're sitting.
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[13:36] <Soapy> creepy
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[13:37] <froodphone^2> I've seen people find name, address phone number, etc all from a first name and a few friends names.
[13:37] <froodphone^2> First nanes
[13:37] <russavia> quetzals -- never thought i'd be able to scrabble that, but just did
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[13:38] <Demiurge1000> And they're all seven steps away from being either Tom Cruise or a vegetable.
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[13:38] <froodphone^2> The things /b/ can do.
[13:38] <bastique> ooh Fluffernutter was op
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[13:39] <Demiurge1000> Well, I hope he contributes lots to That Other Website, I'm sure it would do much to keep them busy.
[13:39] <Soapy> so todays not a good day for Deathlaser
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[13:40] <Fluffernutter> guys, drop the subject now that it's dead, please?
[13:40] <Shearonink> It's a sad day.
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[13:43] <froodphone^2> I have a tiny bottle of mouthwash. One use was a full bottle.
[13:44] <froodphone^2> There is no longer anything left in it.
[13:44] <Fluffernutter> o...kay
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[13:49] <Isarra> ...or something.
[13:49] <Fluffernutter> what happened to your foot, Isarra???
[13:50] <Isarra> My shoe.
[13:50] <Isarra> I wore a shoe.
[13:50] <Isarra> Shoes are cluel.
[13:50] <Isarra> Cruel.
[13:50] <Fluffernutter> bad shoe
[13:50] <Fluffernutter> i hope you burned it
[13:50] <Isarra> Quite.
[13:50] <Fluffernutter> as punishment
[13:50] <Isarra> I would, but I need it.
[13:50] <Isarra> It's illegal to drive without shoes most places, for instance.
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[13:50] <Isarra> And some establishments won't let you in...
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[14:01] <MJ94> Error sending mail: Unknown error in PHP's mail() function.
[14:01] <MJ94> o_O
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[14:14] <Soapy> somethings wrong
[14:14] <Soapy> for a sec, no links worked
[14:15] <Soapy> it must have been my end though
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[14:16] <Rcsprinter> yahoo
[14:17] <Shearonink> mmhmm
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[14:32] <bubu_> hello! talk page comments by proxy are eligible for deletion or they can stay? does the rule according to whom talk page comments by others can not be modified apply in their case?
[14:32] <bubu_> by proxy ips*
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[14:48] <Soapy> wb
[14:49] <actress> ty
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[14:50] <Soapy> surprise is me. I just want to see how well the connection does on android
[14:51] <actress> cool
[14:51] <actress> :)
[14:51] <surprise> I really really hate android tablets
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[14:51] <surprise> But maybe they have some use
[14:51] <actress> i wanna get android phone
[14:52] <actress> but i cant
[14:52] <actress> :(
[14:52] <Soapy> how come?
[14:52] <actress> im very poor
[14:52] <Soapy> espensive?ah
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[14:53] <actress> yes
[14:53] <actress> very
[14:53] <actress> :'(
[14:53] <Logan_> Hello Steven_Zhang.
[14:54] <Steven_Zhang> hey <3
[14:54] <actress> hi logan
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[14:54] <Logan_> Steven_Zhang: I heard you got an rMBP.
[14:54] <Logan_> Hi actress.
[14:54] <Steven_Zhang> yeah
[14:54] <Steven_Zhang> its waiting for me in australia <3
[14:54] <Logan_> Awesome. :)
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[14:55] <actress> any knows matt walker
[14:55] <actress> ?
[14:55] <BarkingFish> anyone mind filling me in please? What's an rMBP?
[14:56] <Logan_> Retina MacBook Pro.
[14:56] <BarkingFish> ah
[14:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> why retina?
[14:56] <BarkingFish> i thought it was some kind of award or something :P
[14:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I want my security to involve lasers
[14:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> wait... retina scan is through lasers
[14:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> !
[14:57] <Steven_Zhang> nah its the brand name for a high-res screen of apple
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[14:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> then again its an apple product
[14:57] <Steven_Zhang> i just got it because i need a new laptop
[14:57] <Steven_Zhang> mine lags sometimes
[14:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Steven_Zhang you needed a laptop?
[14:57] <Steven_Zhang> yes
[14:57] <Steven_Zhang> a new one
[14:57] <Steven_Zhang> this is a 2010
[14:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> [citation needed]
[14:57] <Soapy> the most expensive laptop in the world
[14:57] <Steven_Zhang> it lags sometimes >_<
[14:57] <Soapy> but hey it's good
[14:57] <Soapy> dont get me wrong
[14:57] <Steven_Zhang> Soapy: hardly
[14:57] <Steven_Zhang> i could have made it more expensive :P
[14:58] <Logan_> Steven_Zhang: What's your 2010 laptop/
[14:58] <Logan_> ?
[14:58] <Steven_Zhang> mac pro
[14:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> most expensive laptop in the world is in the united arab emirates
[14:58] <Logan_> How much RAM do you have in it?
[14:58] <Steven_Zhang> 4gb
[14:58] <Logan_> Couldn't you upgrade it?
[14:58] <Steven_Zhang> im getting the 16gb model
[14:58] <Steven_Zhang> Logan_: meh
[14:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> a 16gb laptop?
[14:58] <Logan_> So you pay $2200 for a new laptop instead. :P
[14:58] <Steven_Zhang> i'll just put it on business expenses
�06[14:58] * Logan_ sighs.
[14:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> as in 2 8gb sticks?
[14:58] <Logan_> ToAruShiroiNeko: No, it's soldered onto the mobo.
[14:59] <Logan_> (In the rMBP.).
[14:59] <Steven_Zhang> keep an eye on the village pump :D
[14:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Logan_ huh? interesting
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[14:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Steven_Zhang so with the new laptop will you be able to float?
[14:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> can it be used as a flotaiton device I mean
[15:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont see why laptops dont float in water
[15:00] <Logan_> You generally don't want laptops to be wet, let alone float in water.
[15:02] <Steven_Zhang> no
[15:02] <Steven_Zhang> That is not a function of the laptop.
�06[15:02] * Steven_Zhang is packing
[15:02] <Steven_Zhang> back to australia tomorrow :/
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[15:03] <Logan_> Say hi to a kangaroo for me.
[15:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Logan_ it would be liquid cooling
[15:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> imagine all the laptops on the world be cooled by sea water
[15:04] <Soapy> salty
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[15:09] <Soapy> again, tablets are horrible
[15:09] <Soapy> in 2009 someone convinced people that they needed yet another electronic device and people havent woken up yet
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[15:10] <Soapy> one of my teachers showed us an essay on the 10 reasons not to buy an iPad
[15:10] <Soapy> Im curious if he himself still believes it
[15:11] <Soapy> but it would to just write to him out of the blue
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[15:13] <BarkingFish> lols. Anyone here know the Nyan Cat?
[15:13] <BarkingFish> if you've seen the video, this one is almost as bad...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTuOBXZ3upA
[15:13] <BarkingFish> i  got through about 2 minutes and almost went nuts
[15:13] <foks|mobil> I know the guy who made nyan cat.
[15:13] <foks|mobil> Fun stuff.
[15:14] <Soapy> cool
[15:14] <Soapy> was he surprised when it became a world class meme?
[15:15] <Soapy> that video's just a 10 minute loop, isnt it?
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[15:15] <foks|mobil> Soapy: yeah, I think so.
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[15:18] <foks|mobil_> This sucks
[15:18] <BarkingFish> Soapy, yeah it is, but it's just the noise, over and over, which goes right to my head.
[15:19] <Furry> BarkingFish, challenge accepted
[15:20] <BarkingFish> it just gets on my tits. One minute is fine, two is starting to piss me off
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[15:21] <morgankevinj> http://www.nyan.cat it never ends
[15:22] <BarkingFish> yeah, i know.  A friend of mine put the nyan cat music on his cellphone to use as an alarm clock.  A week after he started, it pissed him off so much he threw his cellphone at his bedroom wall to shut it up.
[15:22] <BarkingFish> Never ever use a piece of music that annoys the bejeezus out of you as a wake up call.
[15:22] <Furry> hah, nyan cat is my ringtone
[15:22] <mysterytrey> I know nyancat.cat has used to much of its bandwith because that many people accessed the site.
[15:23] <mysterytrey> **too**
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[15:24] <Soapy> wait
[15:24] <Soapy> there's a .cat tld now?
[15:24] <CydeWeys> Naturally
[15:24] <Soapy> is that one ofthe new hideously expensive ones Ive heard about that ICANN created to raise money?
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[15:25] <Soapy> you haev to pay like $1650000
[15:25] <Soapy> *%$165,000
[15:25] <BarkingFish> Oh my god.  I just opened nyan.cat in 4 tabs on firefox. Someone, please. Kill me.
[15:25] <Soapy> nope, it's actually got a legitimate use
[15:25] <Soapy> Catalan language
[15:26] <Soapy> In order to be granted a .cat domain, one needs to belong to the Catalan linguistic and cultural community on the Internet.
[15:26] <Soapy> loooooool
[15:26] <Soapy> like they really care
[15:26] <mysterytrey> As long as .onions are never on the clearweb, all will remain fine.
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[15:27] <Shearonink> Hey, are TeaHosue Invites supposed to be signed?
[15:27] <Soapy> hi Shadowgate
[15:27] <Shearonink> House
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[15:44] <Qcoder00> Good Eveing BarkingFish
[15:44] <Qcoder00> :)
[15:44] <morgankevinj> Is there any difference between the purposes of #wikipedia-th-help and #wikipedia-en-help?
[15:44] <BarkingFish> hi Q
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[15:44] <Jeske_Merensky> What language is .th?
[15:45] <BarkingFish> morgankevinj, I'd probably say no. One is the help channel for enwp, the other for the thai wikipedia
[15:45] <morgankevinj> th is for teahouse not thai http://enwp.org/WP:TH/Q
[15:46] <BarkingFish> then they need to change the name of that channel - it doesn't follow our general naming conventions.
[15:47] <BarkingFish> the two or three letters used in a #wikipedia name refer to the language
[15:47] <BarkingFish> #wikipedia-tpi or #wikipedia-fr
[15:47] <BarkingFish> anything starting #wikipedia-th should refer to the Thai wikipedia, not the tea house
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[15:48] <Soapy> i dont think anyone cares about the Thais
[15:48] <Soapy> sorry that was rude
[15:48] <Soapy> obviously some people care
[15:48] <Soapy> but no one who's in the mood to set up a channel
[15:49] <BarkingFish> it should be a placeholder - it's going to bugger the Thai wikipedia up if they start a help channel
[15:50] <morgankevinj> is help in thai spelled the same?
[15:50] <BarkingFish> it wouldn't matter - channel names on here are in roman letters
[15:51] <Soapy> actually
[15:51] <Soapy> are there even any non-english help channels?
[15:51] <Soapy> or do they all just use the language code by itself?
[15:51] <BarkingFish> yes, fr has one, de too, and I think there are a few others...
[15:51] <Soapy> is it hilfe or help?
[15:51] <Soapy> maybe "help" has become a cross-linguistic word
[15:52] <Soapy> so that even people who dont speak English know what it means
[15:52] <Riley_Huntley> Argh
[15:52] <BarkingFish> yeah, the chinese wikipedia has one too - #wikipedia-zh-help
[15:52] <Riley_Huntley> test wikipedia isn't working
[15:52] <Soapy> it's hilfe, at least in German. But the chhnnel is empty
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[15:54] <Qcoder00> BarkignFish: - Hmm - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_language
[15:55] <Soapy> #wikipedia-fr-accueil exists
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[15:56] <Soapy> meta:IRC doesnt seem to acknowledge #wikipedia-th-help
[15:56] <Soapy> #wikipedia-teahouse is there though
[15:57] <MJ94> Should disambig pages have redlinks?
[15:57] <Soapy> meta:IRC doesnt have the hurricanes channel either
[15:57] <Soapy> so Im guessing its not very complete
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[16:20] <Frood> Is l4d2 worth buying?
[16:20] <Furry> yes
[16:20] <mysterytrey> As long as you understand him.
[16:21] <Frood> augh, $20 isn't enough to last me through this whole sale.
[16:21] <Furry> Frood++;
[16:21] <Frood> I already bought one game.
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[16:22] <Frood> skyrim is $30 today, I wish I hadn't bought that first game >_<
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[16:22] <Frood> I'm going to have to start selling other games to buy new ones :P
[16:23] <Frood> "now through July 23rd, if you trade in a game for credit, you'll get 30% more money if you transfer that credit to your Steam Wallet."
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[16:28] <tommorris> so http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18833763
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[16:30] <Frood> Rich Farmbrough kinda looks like RMS
[16:31] <tommorris> Rich is awesome
[16:31] <Qcoder00> Evening tommorris
[16:31] <tommorris> hey
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[16:31] <Frood> Wait, isn't Justin Knapp kovaf?
[16:31] <tommorris> yep
[16:31] <Frood> *Knapp
[16:31] <Frood> that's what i said the first time
[16:31] <Soapy> *koavf
[16:31] <Frood> he's a pizza delivery person
[16:32] <Frood> with the most edits on WP o_O
[16:32] <Frood> I wish they had usernames by these people...
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[16:33] <Soapy> especially the blonde one
[16:33] <Soapy> actually she's a bit old for me
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[16:33] <Soapy> Kamarniso Ismailov is more my type
[16:34] <Soapy> though that sounds like a man's name. Who names their kid Kamarniso
[16:35] <Frood> what if she's in this channel now? :P
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[16:35] <mareklug> Soapy:  it's a run-together of Kamara and Niso
[16:37] <Soapy> oh cool. someone actually is familiar with the name
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[16:37] <Soapy> frood: if she is i'd hope she'd know by now that most of what I say isnt serious
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[16:41] <Soapy> yeah the pizza delivery thing
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[16:42] <Soapy> I wonder if his employer knows hes famous on the Internet
[16:42] <Frood> i never knew Rich was that old. I always assumed he was 30ish
[16:42] <hexadeEXC> hey fellas
[16:42] <hexadeEXC> fellas
[16:42] <Soapy> I did know
[16:42] <hexadeEXC> i had the wackiest dream las night
[16:42] <Soapy> but never saw a picture before
[16:42] <Frood> Hi derp.
[16:43] <hexadeEXC> i dreamnt
[16:43] <hexadeEXC> i woke up a needed to piss
[16:43] <hexadeEXC> walked to bathroom,
[16:43] <hexadeEXC> release stream
[16:43] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search/james_heilman
[16:43] <Soapy> frood ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[16:43] <Soapy> answer is easy
[16:44] <Frood> I had a dream about Logan last night. He made a sweatshirt for his college but then sold it to one of my friends because somehow she got in. then he went into drug dealing.
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[16:45] <Soapy> i dont think ive dreamt about Wikipedia in a long time
[16:45] <Soapy> http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/61568000/jpg/_61568632_justin-224x299.jpg
[16:45] <Soapy> couldve sworn he was a redhead in an earlier pic
[16:47] <tommorris> koavf is the anti-sock. He's whoever you imagine him to be.
[16:47] <Soapy> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qnJNO8_PMok/T5ZJGNjXSkI/AAAAAAAAAT8/7kCkB99uD_k/s400/Justin-Knapp-600-275x171.jpg
[16:47] <Frood> he has a beard.
[16:47] <Frood> therefore badass.
[16:47] <Soapy> it must be the lighting effects
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[16:48] <Frood> anyway, i'm going to go play a game I think.
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[16:48] <Soapy> oops
[16:48] <Soapy> he left
[16:48] <hexadeEXC> guys guys guys
[16:49] <hexadeEXC> anyone know any chill IRC channels?
[16:50] <Riley_Huntley> #Idon'tknowanychillIRCchannels sorry
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[17:01] <OlEnglish> yay I just ordered something from the Wikimedia shop
[17:01] <OlEnglish> a globe keychain
[17:01] <OlEnglish> this one: http://shop.wikimedia.org/products/wikipedia-key-chain
[17:01] <OlEnglish> how exciting
[17:02] <WilliamH_UK> what, no cups?
[17:02] <OlEnglish> they used to have cups as i recall
[17:02] <OlEnglish> when it was at cafepress
[17:03] <BarkingFish> Er, what the fuck?
[17:03] <BarkingFish> I just looked at the Wikimedia shop - I'm hoping this is a mistake, cause if not, something is really fucked up on there.
[17:03] <Soapy> why, whats wrong?
[17:03] <OlEnglish> what
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[17:04] <OlEnglish> there's a link to it from the sidebar
[17:04] <BarkingFish> I switched it in to local currency (GBP) and went to look at an item. Do they really charge almost £100 for a 20 liter backpack?
[17:04] <BarkingFish> Fuck, I have a 100 liter backpack here that cost barely £40
[17:04] <Soapy> lol
[17:05] <haggis> OlEnglish: Nice :-) but I think they should add little barnstar pins etc :-P
[17:05] <Soapy> it's $150 in US dollars
[17:05] <OlEnglish> its $150 US
[17:05] <Soapy> so I think that it's correct
[17:05] <BarkingFish> Holy shit.
[17:05] <OlEnglish> haggis: great idea!
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[17:05] <BarkingFish> $150 for a backpack.
[17:05] <Soapy> but wait
[17:05] <OlEnglish> must be one high quality backpack
[17:05] <Soapy> a *100* liter backpack???
[17:05] <BarkingFish> Soapy, yeah
[17:05] <WilliamH_UK> for $150 i would expect a person to carry my stuff around for me
[17:05] <OlEnglish> no 20 L
[17:05] <BarkingFish> It's a bergen, as used by the British army (mine is, not the one on the WP shop)
[17:06] <Soapy> I would exepect that would be something youd push around on wheels
[17:06] <BarkingFish> Soapy, nope
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[17:06] <Soapy> I mean I know youre taller than average but how could you fill something that big up and the ncarry it?
[17:06] <BarkingFish> With great ease, depends on how fucking strong you are
[17:06] <OlEnglish> it's only 20 L
[17:06] <haggis> :( they should make a ball
[17:07] <BarkingFish> i do a fortnight's worth of shopping and bring it home in that.
[17:07] <haggis> a wikipedia basketball
[17:07] <haggis> a wikipedia dog-fetch ball
[17:07] <OlEnglish> ya!
[17:07] <OlEnglish> or an actual globe
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[17:07] <OlEnglish> desk glove
[17:07] <OlEnglish> err globe
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[17:09] <haggis> and what about the admin t-shirt
[17:09] <Soapy> that would be cute
[17:09] <Soapy> a literal T shirt with every successful RfA
[17:10] <OlEnglish> with your name on it
[17:10] <Soapy> there's so few RfA's these days we could afford to give them away for free
[17:10] <Soapy> maybe give them to unsuccessful RfA"s instead as a consolation prize
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[17:11] <Soapy> anyway
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[17:11] <Soapy> it's true that $150/£100 is way over priced for a backpack, but it's a fundraiser, so it's expected that prices would be high
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[17:12] <Soapy> i paid like $30 for a backpack and it's been doing well for many years
[17:12] <Soapy> with the money I've saved, I could donate $120 to the Wikimedia FOundatrion
[17:13] <WilliamH_UK> i have paid $120 for a return flight
[17:14] <Soapy> thats' cheeeeeap
[17:14] <Soapy> by USA standards
[17:14] <Riley_Huntley> I have paid 50 dollars for a return flight
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[17:14] <Soapy> US airlines have always been expensive
[17:14] <Demiurge1000> ... compared with walking.
[17:15] <Soapy> a FunJet flight crashed into the Florida swamps and that told people not to get on cheap airlines
[17:15] <Demiurge1000> mmmm, well-fed alligators.
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[17:16] <mareklug> Funjed crashed afaik b/c of illegal cargo that caught fire.  People's Express for example never had a crash.
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[17:16] <MJ94> Let's say a new BLP is created. In the person's article, his/her Facebook, Twitter, etc, are added to the External Links. Since the "the linked content is controlled by the subject (organization or individual person) of the Wikipedia article", do the links fall under WP:ELOFFICIAL or should they be removed from the article?
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[17:18] <Demiurge1000> I'd say they can stay.
[17:18] <Demiurge1000> Although, personally I'd only keep one or two
[17:18] <MJ94> Links to social networking sites (such as Myspace and Facebook), chat or discussion forums/groups (such as Yahoo! Groups), Twitter feeds, Usenet newsgroups or e-mail lists.
[17:18] <Demiurge1000> We don't need to list the person's Facebook AND personal website AND twitter AND Myspace and and and...
[17:18] <Emw> i recently released a prototype of a new mediawiki extension to enable interactive 3d models of proteins and DNA: http://pdbhandler.wmflabs.org
[17:18] <Emw> any feedback would be appreciated
[17:18] <Demiurge1000> if their Twitter (or whatever) is so important, they can link to it from their own personal website
[17:20] <Emw> the idea behind the extension is to allow users with modern browsers to rotate and zoom into biological structures on wikipedia articles
[17:20] <Emw> in a way that doesn't involve java applets
[17:20] <Demiurge1000> "The tribes Daci Magni (Great Dacians), [[Costoboci]] ( The Costoboci are generally considered Dacian subtribes{{sfn|Waldman |Mason |2006|p=205}}) and [[Carpians|Carpi]] remained outside the Roman empire, in what the Romans called ''Dacia Libera'' (Free Dacia)." Seems the Romans, unlike Americans, considered countries *other* than themselves to be free :)
[17:22] <Soapy> time to email the overisghters again
[17:23] <OlEnglish> anyone know what article #4,000,000 was?
[17:23] <Soapy> yeah
[17:24] <Soapy> some place in Egypt
[17:24] <Soapy> I'll get the link
[17:24] <OlEnglish> and who created it?
[17:24] <Soapy> Im surprised there's no WP:4000000
[17:24] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izbat_Al_Burj
[17:24] <Soapy> user:Meno25 was the original creator
[17:24] <MJ94> would campaigning for office fall under G11?
[17:25] <Soapy> and its cool because afawk Meno25 wasnt specifically trying to get the 4000000th article
[17:25] <Soapy> it was just by chance
[17:25] <MJ94> ie: check out x's facebook, twitter. www.candidatehere/candidateforpresident/
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[17:26] <Soapy> question marks arent very sharp
�06[17:26] * Soapy is still unharmed
[17:27] <Soapy> and I dont really have a good answer to your question
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[17:27] <Soapy> that stuff's never been my strong point
[17:28] <MJ94> Candidate for U.S. House Of Representatives from Florida District 19.
[17:28] <MJ94> a7?
[17:28] <MJ94> what if the article's creator himself deleted the CSD tag
[17:28] <MJ94> bah
[17:29] <Soapy> oh that sounds fun
[17:29] <Soapy> if he s a Republican we should delete
[17:29] <Soapy> if not , keep
[17:29] <haggis> BarkingFish: I do
[17:29] <MJ94> Soapy: amen
[17:29] <MJ94> he is
[17:29] <haggis> and I can blow away in the wind if I'm not careful
[17:29] <MJ94> but it's written like an ad, Soapy
[17:29] <haggis> jesus that's a long time :O
[17:30] <BarkingFish> haggis, you do what?
[17:30] <haggis> I don't know how big my current backpack is... but I need a new one...
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[17:32] <BarkingFish> Well I just mailed merchandise@wikimedia.org to ask if that was a mistake or not.  Seeing how cheap everything else is, a £100 backpack is just bananas
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[17:34] <WilliamH_UK> BarkingFish I'm going to email about cups
[17:34] <Riley_Huntley> Can't wait for my next stressful situation; https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/406033_386018494780288_1488799324_n.jpg jkjk
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[17:34] <WilliamH_UK> cups are a fantastic idea
[17:34] <WilliamH_UK> I tend to buy one whenever I'm on holiday, it's not like some silly little thing that'll struggle to make it out of the gift shop's bag
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[17:34] <WilliamH_UK> you can use it every day and be reminded of whatever it i
[17:34] <WilliamH_UK> s
[17:35] <Riley_Huntley> WilliamH_UK: When you say cups, do you mean coffee cups/mugs?
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[17:36] <WilliamH_UK> yep
[17:37] <Riley_Huntley> Ah
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[17:39] <[Bazinga]> Logan_: hello
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[17:40] <Logan_> Hi [Bazinga].
[17:41] <[Bazinga]> Did anyone else get the survey from harvard thing again?
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[17:42] <foks> yes
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[17:43] <BarkingFish> yup
[17:43] <Soapy> yeah
[17:44] <Soapy> I probably should actually do the survey
[17:44] <BarkingFish> funny thing is, I didn't agree to take part in the update
[17:44] <Soapy> I still can hardly believe they actually sent money
[17:44] <BarkingFish> but they reckon I did
[17:44] <Soapy> real money
[17:44] <BarkingFish> I wish they'd send it again, Soapy
[17:44] <BarkingFish> i wish we'd permit paid surveys across the whole dang site
[17:44] <Soapy> after 9999999 web surveys that promise you amazing things and give nothing, there was finally a real one
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[17:45] <Soapy> technically they are giving money for this one too, just not to us
[17:45] <BarkingFish> Yeah, that's the problem
[17:46] <foks> Fuck charity!
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[17:46] <BarkingFish> +1
[17:46] <BarkingFish> I donated some of my earnings from the first survey to the WMF anyhow
[17:47] <Soapy> done
[17:47] <Soapy> that was a very short survey
[17:47] <Soapy> only 10 questions
[17:47] <Soapy> i do hope some other people that are admins take the survey so that they dont get the impression all Wikipedia admins are lazy
[17:48] <Soapy> because thats what it looks like from my answers
[17:48] <Soapy> even though "lazy" and "just busy with other stuff" arent the same
[17:50] <haggis> BarkingFish: I feel bad, I didn't fully understand the survey because I did it half-assed and I gave someone nothing
[17:51] <BarkingFish> I fully understood the survey - I enjoyed it, it was fun, I too gave the person I faced absolutely sod all. I'm in it for money, money is what I wanted :)
[17:51] <Soapy> yeah someone cheated me out of $30
[17:51] <Soapy> on the original one
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[17:51] <Soapy> was it you!?!?!
[17:51] <BarkingFish> Nope
[17:52] <Soapy> @ addihockey
[17:52] <BarkingFish> In fact, it may have been
[17:52] <BarkingFish> Nobody knew who anybody was in the face to face thingy
[17:52] <Soapy> but both of you I guess
[17:52] <Soapy> youre both greeeeeeeedy
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[17:53] <BarkingFish> Well hell no. If someone offers me free money for doing something without me lifting a fucking finger, I ain't gonna say no :)
[17:54] <WilliamH_UK> in that case you should become a member of parliament
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[17:54] <Son_Gohan> lol
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[17:55] <BarkingFish> WilliamH_UK, no. The problem with that is, you need to be able to lie through your ass to become an MP
[17:55] <BarkingFish> 99% if them are very proficient at that
[17:55] <JoeJonaslover22> #music
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[17:59] <BarkingFish> ok guys, 2am, that's my lot, I'm outta here for tonight.
[18:00] <BarkingFish> See you this evening :D
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[18:16] <haggis> 5767 pages to go
[18:16] <haggis> :-)
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[18:17] <JoeJonaslover22> ikr
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[18:54] <Sven_Manguard> Anyone here familiar with Open Street Map?
[18:55] <foks> Left 4 Dead 2 is $5 on Steam.
[18:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> foks so its left to die?
[18:55] <foks> Clearly.
[18:55] <Sven_Manguard> foks: a few weeks ago I got all of Deus Ex series for about that
[18:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> left 4 dead 2's plot kind of sucks
[18:56] <foks> From Dust is only $4, very much worth that from what I've played of it
[18:56] <foks> aaand the Binding of Isaac is $1.75
[18:56] <foks> :3
[18:57] <Sven_Manguard> Shit, KotOR is 2.50
[18:57] <Sven_Manguard> I bought it for 5 last time it was on sale
[18:57] <foks> En Anglais?
[18:58] <Sven_Manguard> Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
[18:58] <Sven_Manguard> widely considered one of the best RPGs of all time
[18:59] <russavia> http://i.imgur.com/bLS9O.png
[18:59] <foks> riiight
[19:00] <Sven_Manguard> foks: let me put it this way, if you are at all interested in the RPG genre, it is more than worth 2.50 USD
[19:02] <Soapy> isaac is great
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[19:03] <foks> Sven_Manguard, to be honest, most RPGs seem to be, to my mind, random encounters you can't avoid
[19:03] <foks> this is otherwise known as "Wikipedia adminning"
[19:03] <haggis> russavia: o_O
[19:03] <wctaiwan> XD
[19:03] <Matthew_> o.O Logic comes from the mouth of foks ;)
[19:03] <foks> The Binding of Isaac looks a bit ... repetitive
[19:03] <Soapy> another polandball
[19:03] <Soapy> foks: it is in some ways
[19:03] <foks> Matthew_, naturally!
[19:04] <Sven_Manguard> foks: it doesn't have random encounters, it's got better dialogue than almost any other game I've seen, and it's got lightsabers
[19:04] <foks> and chicken feathers, but
[19:04] <Soapy> but the fact that's it different every time you play gives it lots of replay value
[19:04] <Soapy> that other games dont have
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[19:04] <wctaiwan> Soapy: well, linked by russavia, so not exactly surprising.
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[19:04] <Soapy> there are people on youtube who've played the game > 100 times and uploaded each one
[19:04] <haggis> foks: kick Matthew_ until he pays his debt XD
[19:04] <foks> Soapy, suppose.
[19:04] <Soapy> I havent actually played it myself ... I dont have time and Im not a good gamer
[19:04] <Soapy> but Ive tuned in to some of the videos
[19:04] <Soapy> I think maybe that's the appeal of it for me
[19:04] <Sven_Manguard> Soapy: there's also a psychopathic assassin droid that's funnier than EDI from ME3
[19:05] <Shearonink> I'm going to solve Ready PLayer One
[19:05] <Shearonink> :D
[19:05] <Soapy> I wouldnt actually play a game liek that, but its fun to watch because it's different every time
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[19:05] <wctaiwan> Sven_Manguard: have you played Divine Divinity? It's the better of the like, 3 RPG games I've played >_>
[19:05] <foks> Play any roguelite game
[19:05] <wctaiwan> hey sigma
[19:05] <foks> it's probably the same
[19:05] <foks> :P
[19:05] <Sven_Manguard> never heard of it wctaiwan
[19:05] <wctaiwan> [[Divine Divinity]]
[19:05] <Soapy> interestingly there's been a small scale edit war on the Isaac page over whether or not it qualifies as rougelike
[19:05] <Soapy> *roguelike
[19:06] <foks> It plainly does, but
�06[19:06] * Shearonink was wondering what "rouge"like was...
[19:06] <foks> Wikipedians like to argue
[19:06] <BlastHardcheese> it means the game is all in red, obviously
[19:06] <foks> Shearonink, a Rougelike game is a game with randomly generated content
[19:07] <foks> as in, similar to the game Rouge
[19:07] <Shearonink> rouge or rogue
[19:07] <foks> ...
[19:07] <foks> oops
[19:07] <foks> Rogue.
[19:07] <foks> :3
[19:07] <Shearonink> rouge as in red or rogue as in random
[19:07] <foks> [[Rogue (video game)]], I think.
[19:07] <Shearonink> :D
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[19:07] <foks> Rogue as in "rebellious"
[19:08] <Shearonink> Hey, does anyone know if the Teahouse invite has a sig parameter?
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[19:08] <SigmaWP> wctaiwan: hi
[19:09] <TCO_> any German speakers on the channel?
[19:09] <Soapy> Nein
[19:09] <Shearonink> nein
[19:09] <Demiurge1000> Achtung achtung!
[19:09] <Shearonink> srsly
[19:09] <Soapy> barking fish left
[19:09] <TCO_> sheize
[19:09] <Soapy> he definitely speaks German
[19:09] <WilliamH_UK> yes i speak german
[19:09] <Soapy> yay
[19:09] <TCO_> need some wiki help please
[19:09] <Shearonink> schiste might
[19:09] <TCO_> will pay a barn star
[19:10] <TCO_> how do I open a side chate with Wiliam H?
[19:10] <Soapy> depends on your IRC client
[19:10] <Soapy> I think /query WilliamH_UK
[19:10] <Soapy> will work on all
[19:10] <TCO_> I just used the connect thing
[19:11] <Sven_Manguard> Anyone here familiar with Open Street Map?
[19:11] <Shearonink> teahouse channel is dead
[19:11] <Shearonink> nope sorry sven
[19:11] <wctaiwan> I ransacked the tea house and all I got were some used tea leaves and pottery..
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[19:13] <TCO_> William could not help
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[19:13] <TCO_> any other German speakers?
[19:13] <Shearonink> haha wctaiwan
[19:13] <Soapy> why not go to #de and ask?
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[19:14] <WilliamH_UK> nighty night
[19:14] <Soapy> I know they get tired of English-only people coming in for help but if its important surely someone will help
[19:14] <bassory99_> hey there
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[19:14] <Soapy> if you do go let me know so I can go in and watch you get yelled at for being an annoying English-only speaker
[19:14] <TCO_> how do I go there?
[19:14] <TCO_> OK
[19:15] <TCO_> you can watch, too
[19:15] <Soapy> /j #wikipedia-de
[19:15] <Soapy> and i just joined by accident
[19:15] <TCO_> j #wikipedia-de
[19:15] <Soapy> but really theyre friendly
[19:15] <Soapy> how can you think ill of a channel that has "Frag nicht, ob du fragen darfst, frag einfach" on its join message?
[19:16] <russavia> http://imgur.com/a/YIanu  -- this one could describe this channel somewhat :)
[19:16] <Soapy> oh, i didnt even look at the first image
[19:16] <Soapy> mm
[19:16] <Soapy> thailand stereotypes
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[19:17] <russavia> love kathoey
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[19:17] <Soapy> vietname
[19:17] <Soapy> *Vioetnam
[19:17] <Soapy> *Vietnam
[19:19] <Soapy> Im guessing the yellow stripy flag is S Vietnam
[19:19] <russavia> 'aha
[19:19] <Soapy> hm
[19:19] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_South_Vietnam.svg
[19:19] <Soapy> Ive never seen a flag that has yellow as its primary color
[19:19] <Soapy> out of respect, though, I wont make fun of it
[19:19] <Soapy> because the South Vietnamese fought very bravely
[19:20] <russavia> does that include south vietnamese viet cong?
[19:20] <Soapy> yes, both sides
[19:21] <haggis> Soapy: Almost done :-DD
[19:21] <Soapy> with youer 25000 awb edits?
[19:21] <haggis> yep, only 5000 pages to go
[19:21] <haggis> sorry. 4500*
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[19:22] <TCO_> ARVN rifle for sale:  great condition.  Never fired and only dropped once!
[19:22] <haggis> TCO_: wtf
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[19:22] <Soapy> aw
[19:22] <russavia> lool
[19:22] <TCO_> old joke, man
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[19:22] <Soapy> making fun of wimpy soldiers
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[19:23] <Soapy> of the vietnamese
[19:23] <Sven_Manguard> Soapy: if you like yellow and red flags, Catalonia
[19:23] <haggis> Sven_Manguard: you're a commons person, amirite?
[19:23] <Sven_Manguard> Catalonia: The Spanish province that matters!
[19:23] <Sven_Manguard> haggis: yes
[19:23] <Sven_Manguard> but
[19:23] <Soapy> yellow flags seem to be for countries that dont win wars
[19:23] <Sven_Manguard> Right now my computer needs restarting
[19:23] <Sven_Manguard> so I will return soon
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[19:24] <haggis> Sven_Manguard: What do I do for people who complain that I'm changing PNGs to SVGS
[19:24] <russavia> soapy -- http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitxer:Catalanball.PNG
[19:24] <haggis> If they're similar, they complain that the edit is pointless
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[19:24] <haggis> If they're a bit different, they complain that it's controversial.
[19:24] <russavia> or my favourite -- http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Basqueball.PNG -- which actually looks like an ETA terrorist :)
[19:25] <foks> haggis, svgs are more efficient
[19:25] <TCO_> Is there a commons channel?
[19:25] <TCO_> link?
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[19:26] <foks> #wikimedia-commons
[19:26] <TCO_> trying to get some Commons help
[19:26] <haggis> foks: I'm fully aware, but they won't listen to a word that I say.
[19:27] <foks> haggis, tell them that, since that's the truth.
[19:27] <haggis> I had to specify around 3-4 times that it's not a bot, and they're still saying that they don't like bots doing the changes.
[19:27] <haggis> There's an entire thread
[19:27] <haggis> Would you like an interesting read?
[19:27] <haggis> :-)
[19:27] <foks> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_that_should_be_in_SVG_format
[19:27] <foks> oh right
[19:28] <foks> I wouldn't, really
[19:28] <haggis> :(
[19:28] <foks> going to bed probably.
[19:28] <haggis> support would be nice :3
[19:28] <Shearonink> russavia: that image-link you posted....
[19:28] <Fluffernutter> no bed for fokses!
[19:28] <Shearonink> it's kind of scarrrrrry...
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[19:28] <foks> If you need support in numbers you're doing it wrong
[19:29] <foks> alternatively, ask in -commons
[19:29] <TCO_> how come there are a bunch of names in the commons and de channels, but no one answers?
[19:29] <TCO_> are they all asleep with the computer on?
[19:29] <foks> either way, this foks is sleepy
[19:29] <wctaiwan> foks: it's 10:30PM!
[19:29] <Shearonink> probably
[19:29] <haggis> foks: I don't want numbers, I just want different people to express their opinion :(
[19:29] <Shearonink> asleep
[19:29] <foks> TCO_, because not everyone stares at IRC all the time
[19:29] <Shearonink> ai duz
[19:29] <foks> Ping someone.
[19:29] <Shearonink> stare/stare/stare
[19:29] <foks> Night.
[19:29] <TCO_> I tried pinging AFBorchert
[19:30] <TCO_> he is mega cool
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[19:30] <TCO_> like a normal person even
[19:30] <haggis> Shearonink: That is scary.
[19:30] <TCO_> not mean like a Wikipedian
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[19:31] <BlastHardcheese> the cabal is always watching
[19:32] <Demiurge1000> They sleep with one eye open, like ducks.
[19:32] <wctaiwan> shhh!
[19:32] <wctaiwan> BlastHardcheese: You know too much.
[19:32] <haggis> the addicabal has a plan in stock
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[19:33] <TCO_> I am trying to get this picture for the Wiki:  http://portal.uni-freiburg.de/molchem/research/f2-lab/bild1-f2-lab.jpg
[19:33] <TCO_> To make my fluorine article even more awesome than it already is
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[19:34] <russavia> TCO_ email them and ask permission
[19:35] <TCO_> I already tried
[19:35] <TCO_> I want a German speaker to try
[19:35] <TCO_> I got no repsonse
[19:35] <TCO_> I have done a lot of email permissions
[19:35] <TCO_> maybe 10 or so
[19:35] <TCO_> I just want some help for once...
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[19:41] <russavia> ask at COM:VP
[19:41] <russavia> someone will likely lend a helping hand
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[19:43] <Sven_Manguard> I'm back
[19:43] <TCO_> how od I get to com vp?
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[19:43] <Sven_Manguard> TCO_: if you're thinking valued pictures on Commons the process is well outlined there
[19:43] <TCO_> link?
[19:43] <Sven_Manguard> also, the #wikimedia-commons channel would be more helpful to commons questions
[19:44] <Sven_Manguard> link is in the other channel, gift of russavia
[19:44] <Sven_Manguard> [Bazinga]: were you the one that wanted help with something before I restarted?
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[19:45] <Sven_Manguard> haggis:
[19:45] <Sven_Manguard> w/e
[19:49] <TCO_> OK, I asked there
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[19:53] <TCO_> I asked at commons also
[19:53] <TCO_> channel is dead
[19:53] <wctaiwan> TCO_: post on commons
[19:53] <TCO_> I did
[19:53] <wctaiwan> don't expect people to be available on IRC...
[19:53] <wctaiwan> then wait
[19:53] <wctaiwan> why the impatience?
[19:53] <TCO_> wheel...oil desire...squeek
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[19:54] <TCO_> I tried a while ago on my own
[19:54] <TCO_> and also tried the DE VP
[19:54] <Fluffernutter> squeaky wheels sometimes just get hit with a sledgehammer..
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[19:54] <TCO_> Brittney spears sings a song about a schoolgirl wanting to get hit one more time
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[19:55] <wctaiwan> Fluffernutter: may I borrow said sledgehammer for a sec?
[19:58] <Fluffernutter> heh
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[19:59] <TCO_> I left messages with Saibo and with AFBorchert
[19:59] <TCO_> AFB is like one of the nicest people at Wiki
[19:59] <TCO_> Saibo has some retirement thing on his page
[20:00] <Fluffernutter> i think saibo has been continually in a state of ragequitting for a year now
[20:01] <wctaiwan> one of the hardliners wrt. the image situation, no?
[20:02] <Sven_Manguard> TCO_: ignore Saibo's claim of retirement. He's all pissy over something that the WMF did, and....
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[20:02] <Sven_Manguard> oh, Fluffernutter got to it already
[20:03] <Sven_Manguard> wctaiwan: no, this was that pedo-block a few months ago
[20:03] <wctaiwan> oh.
[20:03] <Sven_Manguard> Saibo thinks it's WMF power abuse
[20:03] <wctaiwan> Meh.
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[20:05] <TCO_> I just want someone from the German Wiki to help the American Wiki
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[20:05] <wctaiwan> Oi, not the american wiki.
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[20:06] <Sven_Manguard> American Wiki!
[20:06] <wctaiwan> International English Wiki!
[20:06] <TCO_> I want a picture from a German university
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[20:06] <TCO_> of some shiny lab piping and valve manifolds and explosion sheild
[20:06] <TCO_> for fluorine pipin
[20:06] <TCO_> piping
[20:06] <wctaiwan> You know what's an american wiki? http://conservapedia.com/
�06[20:06] * wctaiwan grins
[20:06] <wctaiwan> the flag's right up there.
[20:07] <TCO_> seriously:  check out this picture:  it is bitching:  http://portal.uni-freiburg.de/molchem/research/f2-lab/bild1-f2-lab.jpg
[20:07] <Soapy> so the #de people didnt help?
[20:08] <TCO_> They are all sleeping
[20:08] <TCO_> so are the limeys...so we can just be rebs here
[20:08] <Soapy> yeah I suppose its a bad time of day to go to a European channel
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[20:13] <TCO_> The conservapedia article on fluorine is not as good as mine.  First two paras are actually pretty decent (for a short version).  But then the last para is some water fluoridation conspiracy stuff
[20:13] <TCO_> no pictures either
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[20:14] <DeltaQuad> Sven_Manguard: you being lazy in joining channels :P (LisaBot is back)
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[20:15] <Sven_Manguard> DeltaQuad: SPI is soul-crushingly boring and I'm tired
[20:16] <DeltaQuad> :P
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[20:17] <Sven_Manguard> DeltaQuad: congrats, BTW
[20:18] <DeltaQuad> ty
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�03[16:23] * Set by RD!~Ryan@wikimedia/Rjd0060 on Sun Jul 22 18:04:05
[16:23] #wikipedia-en url is https://en.wikipedia.org/
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[16:24] <geniice> https://www.sallyridescience.com/sallyride/bio?
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[16:24] <BarkingFish> yeah
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[16:25] <Isarra> Ignoring it feels rude.
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[16:25] <BarkingFish> I can't get in, firefox sends back "unable to establish a connection to the server at https://www.sallyridescience.com/sallyride/bio - the server may be overloaded or busy, please try again later"
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�03[16:54] * Set by RD!~Ryan@wikimedia/Rjd0060 on Sun Jul 22 18:04:05
[16:54] #wikipedia-en url is https://en.wikipedia.org/
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[17:04] <almanac_ofp> lol you guys are still full of advertisement http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=%22how+to+rap%22&fulltext=Search
[17:05] <almanac_ofp> i'm gonna use encarta 97 until "how to rap" has been wiped off the face of the earth
[17:05] <Dcoetzee> almanac_ofp: Would you like to nominate [[How to Rap]] for deletion? If so I could assist you with that.
[17:06] <BarkingFish> we're not stopping you. As published material, we're entitled and allowed to cite it as a source for quotes and suchlike, we can use it for references in articles etc.
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[17:06] <almanac_ofp> i don't want to deal with this, i just wanted to point it out because i have mirc installed and this is irritating
[17:06] <almanac_ofp> and i thought it was funny
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[17:07] <BarkingFish> if you don't like what we're doing here - you don't have to come back.  You're welcome to use your seriously out of date CD encyclopedia built for Windows 95.
[17:07] <Dragonfly6-7> almanac_ofp - hey?
[17:07] <Dragonfly6-7> almanac_ofp - tell me what exactly is wrong with that article?
[17:07] <Dragonfly6-7> the book was published by major publishers, translated into multiple languages....
[17:07] <almanac_ofp> well, for one thing, it's shilled in almost every single hip-hop-related page
[17:07] <Dragonfly6-7> has a bunch of interviews with high-level rappers
[17:07] <almanac_ofp> and by shilled i mean name-dropped
[17:07] <almanac_ofp> ya name-dropper
[17:07] <Dragonfly6-7> almanac_ofp - ah. Then we might as well purge it from those.
[17:08] <Dragonfly6-7> One article on it, yes. A name-drop everywhere else, no.
[17:08] <almanac_ofp> indeed
[17:08] <almanac_ofp> hell, the article for "rapping" has had it in the first paragraph for like, months
[17:08] <Dcoetzee> I'm honestly suspicious of this book.
[17:08] <Dragonfly6-7> thanks for bringing this to our attention
[17:08] <almanac_ofp> i know, it's freaky, right?
[17:08] <almanac_ofp> np
[17:08] <Dcoetzee> It is widely published, but most of the interviewed rappers are small players.
[17:08] <Dcoetzee> It hasn't been on any sort of bestseller list.
[17:08] <Dragonfly6-7> XXL magazine said "over 100 rappers have offered their insight on the artform for aspiring wordsmiths"[13], while Yale University Press's Anthology of Rap referred to How to Rap's "rich array of interviews with old school and new school artists,"[14] and Oxford University Press's How to Fix Copyright recommended How to Rap for a good "general" overview.[15]
[17:09] <Dragonfly6-7> Dana Gioia, poet and former chairman of the National Endowment for the Arts wrote, “How To Rap marks a cultural coming-of-age for Hip-Hop… [it] is the first comprehensive poetics of this new literary form.
[17:09] <BarkingFish> Dragonfly6-7, it's used as a reference on multiple articles.  Are we really going to say that printed, published material is not an RS?
[17:09] <almanac_ofp> it's obvious that this guy has conducted a massive-scale marketing campaign on wikipedia
[17:10] <almanac_ofp> and amazon reviews too i think, though those may have been deleted since
[17:10] <Dragonfly6-7> Please hold.
[17:10] <Dcoetzee> BarkingFish: Plenty of printed, published material is not an RS, obviously :-P
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[03:52] <muzammil> hello
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[04:23] <IRWolfie-> Fasttimes68: and another one admits he is a paid advocate
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[04:49] <wctaiwan> I'm sure y'all have already seen this but http://www.wikipediaredefined.com
[04:49] <wctaiwan> interesting, though it doesn't look more practical than the current design to me..
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[05:08] <koishi> i think this is a joke site
[05:09] <koishi> yeah this is a joke
[05:09] <koishi> i really don't know why people bother with this crap anymore
[05:09] <koishi> i wish they'd stop
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[05:14] <foks> as I said before, wikipediaredefined is nothing more than a design project undertaken to pad out a folio
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[05:32] <geniice> why can't they do it in an interesting way?
[05:32] <geniice> say a steampunk wikipedia skin
[05:35] <foks> ew
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[05:45] <geniice> foks you don't like steampunk?
[05:46] <closedmouth> does anybody?
[05:47] <geniice> The first[3][4] Steamcon was held October 23–25, 2009[5] at the Seattle Airport Marriott in Seatac, Washington. The convention in its first year had 1,350 people attend
[05:47] <geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steamcon
[05:47] <geniice> so aparently yes
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[05:49] <Qcoder02> Steampunk Wikipedia?
[05:49] <Qcoder02> You mean a sort of automated rolodex? with selectors?
[05:49] <foks> Steampunk is awful
[05:49] <mareklug> how could you not like that: http://steampunkcostume.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/steampunk-couture2.jpg
[05:49] <foks> Bioshock is the only decent thing to ever come from steampunk
[05:50] <closedmouth> that was dieselpunk
[05:50] <closedmouth> not much steam involved
[05:50] <foks> ah whatever
[05:51] <geniice> Qcoder02 no I mean a skin with heavy use of steampunk motifs
[05:51] <Qcoder02> Oh
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[05:52] <geniice> so a colour scheme of brown with brass highlights. buttons that look like leavers that kind of thing
[05:53] <geniice> anyway got to go camera lenses to buy
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[05:54] <foks> YAY
[05:54] <foks> finally got giffgaff working
[05:54] <foks> Giffgaff btw is the only mobile provider I can think of that advocates jailbreaking as a method of unlocking an iPhone.
[05:55] <foks> fact
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[06:47] <Anna_Frodesiak> anyone here good with hatnotes?
[06:48] <closedmouth> yeah
[06:48] <Anna_Frodesiak> ah good
[06:48] <Anna_Frodesiak> mainstream media is using the term Mars Rover a lot
[06:48] <Anna_Frodesiak> so people google it and arrive at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_rover
[06:48] <Anna_Frodesiak> but the real whopper article is
[06:48] <Anna_Frodesiak> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Science_Laboratory
[06:48] <Anna_Frodesiak> maybe hatnotes are in order at:
[06:48] <Anna_Frodesiak> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Exploration_Rover
[06:48] <Anna_Frodesiak> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_rover
[06:49] <Anna_Frodesiak> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_rover
[06:49] <closedmouth> oh ggod my connection falling to pieces again
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[06:49] <Anna_Frodesiak> not sure how to handle that
[06:49] <yrtneg> maybe http://enwp.org/Curiosity_Rover ... ?
[06:50] <Anna_Frodesiak> right i forgot about that one
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[06:50] <Anna_Frodesiak> that's about the vehicle
[06:50] <Anna_Frodesiak> of course a page move isn't needed
[06:50] <Anna_Frodesiak> just a few hatnotes maybe
[06:51] <Anna_Frodesiak> not sure.
[06:51] <closedmouth> eh, it's mentioned in the lead
[06:51] <Anna_Frodesiak> so many articles and links
[06:52] <Anna_Frodesiak> funny that the article getting all the hits is the hardest to find
[06:52] <Anna_Frodesiak> http://stats.grok.se/en/latest30/Mars%20Science%20Laboratory
[06:53] <mareklug> is it linked from the main page?
[06:53] <closedmouth> probably linked from a blog or something
[06:53] <Anna_Frodesiak> ah
[06:53] <Anna_Frodesiak> i guess this one is taking over the traffic
[06:53] <Anna_Frodesiak> http://stats.grok.se/en/latest30/Curiosity%20rover
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[06:54] <Anna_Frodesiak> sorry folks. it's probably just fine and i'm the only one confused
[06:55] <closedmouth> would you refer to it as the current american rover? are there any others that can be defined as that?
[06:55] <Anna_Frodesiak> ?
[06:55] <closedmouth> {{for|the current American rover expedition|Curiosity rover}}
[06:55] <Anna_Frodesiak> i'm just trying to see it from the point of view of people who read about it in the paper then try to find the enwp article on it
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[06:56] <Anna_Frodesiak> maybe a temp hatnote at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_rover
[06:56] <Anna_Frodesiak> ?
[06:56] <Anna_Frodesiak> dollars to donuts that's what they are all searching at enwp
[06:56] <mareklug> are you sure the others are inoperative ?  maybe "latest" is safest.
[06:57] <Frood> omg
[06:57] <Frood> it's supposed to rain today
[06:57] <Frood> :D
[06:57] <Anna_Frodesiak> "current" is good
[06:57] <yrtneg> Which rover just landed?
[06:57] <closedmouth> mareklug: that's what i was wondering
[06:58] <Anna_Frodesiak> curiosity
[06:58] <Anna_Frodesiak> the one made of leggo
[06:58] <yrtneg> ok
[06:58] <mareklug> curiosity.  but opportunity might still be "current".   and the orbiting robots are "current"
[06:58] <Anna_Frodesiak> true
[06:58] <yrtneg> We goin' to MARS, son
[06:58] <Anna_Frodesiak> so "recently landed"
[06:58] <yrtneg> united states of SPACE
[06:59] <mareklug> latest, Anna.  smile, true, clear.
[06:59] <closedmouth> yrtneg: get your ass to mars
[06:59] <Anna_Frodesiak> latest, ok
[06:59] <Frood> who decided it's okay for America to invade not only countries, but now planets!?
[06:59] <yrtneg> Why are most people active at night?
[07:00] <yrtneg> frood: for science.
[07:00] <closedmouth> america did
[07:00] <closedmouth> you monster
[07:00] <yrtneg> the uss
[07:00] <yrtneg> united states of space
[07:01] <Frood> nono, united space of america
[07:01] <mareklug> india said it plans to send a mission to mars, so…  it's anyone who has the technology
[07:01] <Anna_Frodesiak> so http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_rover is the only one?
[07:01] <Anna_Frodesiak> that could use a hatnote to curiosity i guess
[07:01] <Anna_Frodesiak> does that make sense?
[07:02] <Anna_Frodesiak> that will get visitors in the loop
[07:02] <yrtneg> -.- is K in morse
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[07:04] <Anna_Frodesiak> {{For|the latest vehicle to land on Mars|Curiosity rover}}
[07:04] <Anna_Frodesiak> is that ok?
[07:05] <Anna_Frodesiak> tweaks?
[07:05] <closedmouth> already done
[07:05] <Anna_Frodesiak> ah
[07:05] <mareklug> yrtneg:  my client reported that an impassive emoticon is K in morse
[07:05] <Anna_Frodesiak> american?
[07:05] <Anna_Frodesiak> aren't they all?
[07:05] <mareklug> so far
[07:05] <closedmouth> beagle!
[07:06] <yrtneg> russian.
[07:06] <yrtneg> and uk-ian.
[07:06] <mareklug> i think the russians landed something that broke
[07:06] <Anna_Frodesiak> hahahaha
[07:06] <Anna_Frodesiak> funny
[07:06] <yrtneg> Mars 2, Prop-M rover, 1971, landing failed.
[07:06] <yrtneg> Mars 3, Prop-M rover, 1971, communication failure after landing.
[07:07] <yrtneg> So is the rover connected to a super-stong wifi network?
[07:07] <Anna_Frodesiak> N. Korea just send one that will search for potatoes and send them back
[07:08] <Anna_Frodesiak> closedmouth: thanks :)
[07:08] <yrtneg> That octopus?
[07:08] <Anna_Frodesiak> i wonder if that'll increase traffic
[07:08] <yrtneg> Give him boots
[07:08] <yrtneg> and send him to NORTK KOREA
[07:09] <haggis> http://www.collegehumor.com/embed/6808680/olympic-village-orientation
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[07:18] <yrtneg> haggis: She looks and sounds like OAG
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[07:26] <mysterytrey> So are admins allowed to tag things with CSDs and such and pass on to other admins or must they take care of it themselves?
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[07:29] <jc39> Hullo, copyright issues on Main Page.
[07:29] <jc39> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Plagiarism
[07:29] <yrtneg> hmm
[07:30] <yrtneg> Worse, the main page.
[07:30] <SerajewelKS> mysterytrey: admins can CSD-tag things if they want
[07:30] <SerajewelKS> mysterytrey: though it's not really any harder to just delete the page
[07:31] <mysterytrey> And if they're unsure they can just pass it on to someone else?
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[07:32] <yrtneg> [[WP:C-P]]
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[07:35] <yrtneg> Well none of the text on the main page is actually WRITTEN, /on/, the main page
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[07:41] <mysterytrey> SerajewelKS: And if they're unsure they can just pass it on to someone else?
[07:42] <afat> lol
[07:42] <afat> how can I get a wikipedia clock?
[07:42] <afat> cloak?
[07:43] <yrtneg> Um
[07:43] <yrtneg> I forgot lol
[07:43] <yrtneg> join #wikimedia-ops, ask there maybe
[07:43] <afat> ok
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[07:49] <jc39> Hello,
[07:49] <jc39> is 	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jamesn_(WMF) a legit WMF account?
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[07:49] <jc39> bit fishy imo
[07:50] <yrtneg> Bit fishy to me as well
[07:51] <jc39> HELLO
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[07:54] <wctaiwan> el fokso isn't here :(
[07:54] <wctaiwan> but for those of you who were similarly frustrated with the doodle yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csPUwQeOH1c
[07:54] <wctaiwan> (oh and there's a new one today <g>)
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[07:56] <wctaiwan> foks!
[07:56] <yrtneg> lolgoogle
[07:56] <wctaiwan> [22:51:56] <wctaiwan> el fokso isn't here :(
[07:56] <wctaiwan> [22:52:09] <wctaiwan> but for those of you who were similarly frustrated with the doodle yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csPUwQeOH1c
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[07:58] <foks> wctaiwan, el fokso, I like
[07:59] <wctaiwan> :p
[08:00] <foks> also, looool
[08:00] <yrtneg> also, TF2.
[08:00] <yrtneg> also Hey foks!
[08:01] <foks> Hiiii
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[08:08] <foks> guh, PAC codes
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[08:15] <haggis> foks: hey
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[08:26] <Tony_Sidaway> I figured out how to make irssi work with SSL ids from a remote shell account in Sweden. I suppose that means I'm officially either paranoid or simply geeky enough to want to try that sort of thing. Probably the latter.
[08:27] <Tony_Sidaway> What I cannot yet do is figure out the simple instructions on the freenode web page about the tor gateway.
[08:27] <mysterytrey> Hah.
[08:28] <Tony_Sidaway> Once I get that working I'll be able to use the cjb account.
[08:30] <Tony_Sidaway> The big advantage of cjb (which is in all other respects a horrible environment for anything) is that it's a throw-away account. If by chance you lock yourself or mess up the shell environment (say, by trying for the umpteenth time to make Ruby on Rails work in that environment) then you just go to the website and reset it.
[08:31] <Tony_Sidaway> So it's a fail-many-times, succeed-once, kind of environment. You just keep plugging away until it works.
[08:31] <Tony_Sidaway> Then you tar it all up as insurance for your next umpteen failures.
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[08:32] <afat> can you configure SASL  for cjb?
[08:32] <Tony_Sidaway> afat: that is my next project.
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[08:32] <afat> nice.
[08:33] <Tony_Sidaway> I think I've proven to my own satisfaction that I cannot produce a Ruby build on cjb that is stable enough to host Rails.
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[08:33] <afat> lol if you manage tell me how
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[08:35] <afat> I tried SASL on it but failed I guess.
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[08:36] <Tony_Sidaway> When you're running rails (and particularly under rvm) on your home system you don't realise what a diskspace hog it is. I built Rails on Polarhome but then ran out of space needed to run bundle install on the simples apps!
[08:36] <Tony_Sidaway> cjb has oodles of space but it's a fundamentally brain-damaged environment.
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[08:36] <afat> yup
[08:37] <afat> every goodies were stripped out I think.
[08:37] <Tony_Sidaway> shellmix sort-of works but I had to tunnel git's ssh via cjb just to be able to push to heroku.
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[08:39] <afat> best option is to pay for a VPS . I mean u get root on them.
[08:39] <Tony_Sidaway> afat: I think the main problem with cjb is that it's a stitched-together Frankenstein system designed by somebody who is using it as an experiment in jail techniques.
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[08:39] <afat> haha
[08:39] <afat>  yeah
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[08:40] <afat> nmap was still working some months back but it was damaged. pings dont work...
[08:40] <Report> Hello
[08:41] <afat> its a wonder that gcc still works.
[08:41] <Report> I decided what I want to write that report on wikipedia about
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[08:41] <Tony_Sidaway> Pings probably don't work because pinging via tor is a bit of a pointless exercise.
[08:41] <Report> I have decided to title my report "Wikipedia's greatest weapon : Addiction"
[08:41] <Report> Is it Ok if I title it that way
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[08:42] <Tony_Sidaway> Report: you wouldn't be the first person to write about that aspect of Wikipedia.
[08:43] <Report> So
[08:43] <foks> Report, you can title it whatever you like :)
[08:43] <Tony_Sidaway> But all insights into our condition are welcome.
[08:43] <Report> Are you all the victims of addiction?
[08:43] <Tony_Sidaway> That would be telling.
[08:46] <Report> I hope you won'y block me from reading wikipedia for my report
[08:46] <Report> won't
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[08:47] <Pharos> http://www.jeanclaudevanjam.com/
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[08:49] <Tony_Sidaway> afat: I'm configuring cpan in an effort to get the SASL script given on the freenode tor page to work.
[08:49] <Tony_Sidaway> afat: on cjb that is.
[08:50] <Tony_Sidaway> Report: nobody is blocked from reading Wikipedia. Even if we wanted to do so, which is very doubtful, we couldn't do it.
[08:50] <Tony_Sidaway> Report: we wouldn't block you from editing either unless your conduct on the wiki caused problems.
[08:51] <afat> ok
[08:52] <Tony_Sidaway> afat: oh well, cpan is broken. I'll probably just have to get out and push.
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[08:53] <afat> hehe
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[09:11] <Pharos> http://www.jeanclaudevanjam.com/ is not yawn-worthy
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[09:16] <LikeLakers2> apparently my internet is having a vacation
[09:16] <LikeLakers2> FUCK
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[09:16] <LikeLakers2> No seriously, I am mad as heck right now
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[09:24] <Fluffernutter> embarrassing: being thirty years old and finding yourself doing that thing kids do, where they jump and reach because they're too short to reach what they need. Especially when your 6'2 coworker looks down and is like "...would you like me to get that for you?"
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[09:25] <foks> aww
�06[09:25] * Fluffernutter needs to grow
[09:25] <wctaiwan> bit late for that >.>
[09:26] <Fluffernutter> surely someone will invent a way for adults to grow
[09:26] <Fluffernutter> ...that doesn't involve breaking and extending their bones in risky surgery
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[09:31] <DJMalik> Hola
[09:32] <Mdann52> Bonjourno!
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[09:32] <DJMalik> O____O
[09:32] <Tony_Sidaway> Fluffernutter: talk big and carry a stepladder.
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[09:33] <Fluffernutter> heh
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[09:36] <Nascar1996> LOL
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[09:37] <Bradford> Hi
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[09:37] <Bradford> Hey Nascar1996, ;:
[09:38] <Nascar1996> Hi
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[09:40] <Fluffernutter> my watchlist hasn't moved in like 45 minutes now
[09:41] <Fluffernutter> where the hell is everyone today
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[09:41] <Bradford> Hay alguien acá
[09:41] <Maryana> fluffernutter: i think it's because we semi-protected everything after last night's steven colbert outburst
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[09:43] <Fluffernutter> what did colbert do?
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[09:43] <Maryana> he told everyone to go edit the articles of people they want as romney's VP pick
[09:44] <Fluffernutter> oh, that
[09:44] <Fluffernutter> sigh
[09:44] <Krenair> wtf
[09:44] <jc33> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=protect&user=&page=Tim+Pawlenty&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_review_log=1
[09:45] <Fluffernutter> "colbert" should totally be a valid protection reason at all times
[09:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> {{Colbert}}
[09:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> create it
[09:46] <jc33> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Colbert rd's
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[09:47] <Fluffernutter> nah, we need a template that says like, "You saw this on Colbert, didn't you? Sorry, this article is temporarily protected from editing so that a flood of people who saw the same thing don't mess with it"
[09:47] <MJ94> Is http://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/the-hitlist-blogpost.aspx?post=5e09e771-7964-41dd-81a9-be2e25710ab7 reliable? :P
[09:48] <Fluffernutter> it's an opinion piece, so probabky not
[09:48] <MJ94> that's what I thought
[09:48] <jc33> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SPS#Newspaper_and_magazine_blogs
[09:48] <MJ94> Fluffernutter: I just wanted it for the Jay Leno line - can I use it then?
[09:49] <Fluffernutter> i would say not, MJ94. Surely there's somewhere more reputable that reported on what Leno *exactly* said?
[09:50] <Bradford> Hola
[09:51] <MJ94> Fluffernutter: Thanks :)
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[09:56] <Bradford> Hey Mdann52
[09:57] <Bradford> Hilsner venner
[09:57] <Bradford> Greetings amikoj
[09:57] <Bradford> Поздрави приятели
[09:58] <Bradford> Bye
[09:58] <foks> ok
[09:59] <Bradford> foks: What do you mean by ok
[10:00] <foks> just ok
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[10:00] <Bradford> foks: I do not understand but good
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[10:01] <Fluffernutter> okay then
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[10:08] <Bradford> See you later
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[10:08] <foks> ok
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[10:12] <jc33> Why are all IPv6 address unable to edit at Wikiversity?
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[10:12] <jc33> *addresses
[10:13] <Fluffernutter> maybe they've somehow blocked them? though that would be a strange thing to do
[10:13] <Mdann52> You should be able to edit on a IPv6 address
[10:13] <foks> Wikiversity isn't really what this channel discusses
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[10:13] <Mdann52> I've not known a widespread issue
[10:13] <foks> Because they're <s>savages</s> not related to us very strongly
[10:14] <Mdann52> (normally, I'd link to WP:NPA here)
�03[10:14] * foks is now known as foks|vaek
[10:14] <foks|vaek> but you agree, correct?
[10:14] <foks|vaek> ;)
�06[10:14] * Fluffernutter personally attacks foks
[10:15] <foks|vaek> I'm teasing. Also, afk
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[10:18] <haggis> Fluffernutter: npa.
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[10:19] <Fluffernutter> {{nono}}
[10:19] <Fluffernutter> ^whenever i see that template used i wonder what the person who named it was thinking
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[10:21] <Pharos> come and see the violence inherent in the system!
�06[10:22] * Apheori blows up the system.
[10:22] <jc33> Pharos, since you're with the WMF
[10:22] <Pharos> i am no such thing!
[10:22] <jc33> do you know any "James Nolan"? It's *veeery* fishy, imo - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jamesn_(WMF)
[10:22] <Ironholds> jc33: he's not, but I am. thanks.
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[10:23] <jc33> o
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[10:23] <haggis> Fluffernutter: Could you do some deletes for me?
[10:23] <Pharos> I am only with the WWF
[10:23] <Fluffernutter> deletes of what, haggis?
[10:24] <Apheori> Are walruses involved?
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[10:24] <haggis> Fluffernutter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TSN2_HD.png
[10:24] <haggis> it's on commons
[10:25] <haggis> Magog is just being a troll.
[10:25] <Fluffernutter> um
[10:25] <Fluffernutter> it has keeplocal
[10:25] <haggis> for no reason, magog tagged it as non-free in canada and it was proven free.
[10:26] <haggis> I'd revert it (again) but that'd be edit warring.
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[10:26] <Ironholds> grr
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[10:26] <Ironholds> WMF impersonaters get on my tits.
�06[10:26] * Fluffernutter impersonates the entire WMF. At once.
�06[10:26] * Apheori impersonates Ironholds.
[10:26] <foks|vaek> Hey
�06[10:26] * Apheori impersonates Fluffernutter impersonating the entire WMF.
[10:26] <Fluffernutter> haggis: i;m not doing anything to that file. Fight it out or whatever
[10:26] <foks|vaek> surely it would be Jnolan?
[10:27] <Ironholds> there's that too
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[10:27] <Ironholds> it's Max Viwe again, I think
[10:27] <foks|vaek> Not nearly as awesome sounding though.
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[10:27] <foks|vaek> Well if he definitely doesn't work there...
[10:27] <foks|vaek> we gon' block?
[10:27] <Ironholds> I'm handling it
[10:28] <haggis> foks|vaek: Could you do a delete? :-) *glares at Fluffernutter*
[10:28] <foks|vaek> "vaek" means "away
[10:28] <foks|vaek> :(
[10:28] <foks|vaek> I'm eating tea
[10:28] <Ironholds> I want to CU first to verify a concern
[10:28] <haggis> away means away
[10:28] <haggis> you don't eat tea.
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[10:28] <haggis> you consume or drink it.
[10:28] <foks|vaek> you do eat tea
[10:28] <Fluffernutter> maybe YOU do
[10:28] <foks|vaek> "tea" = "dinner" = "supper"
[10:28] <Fluffernutter> but what if he's spreading the tea leaves on his toast
[10:29] <Apheori> Why isn't the creation of usernames ending with (WMF) blocked in general?
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[10:29] <Apheori> I eat tea for breakfast.
[10:29] <foks|vaek> Apheori, the WMF *do* hire folk
[10:29] <Mdann52> Because it stands for Wikimedia Foundation
[10:29] <Apheori> So why can't account creators or other staff create accounts for them?
[10:29] <Apheori> They don't hire that many, do they?
[10:29] <Fluffernutter> becuase that would be way too easy, Apheori
[10:29] <haggis> Fluffernutter: then he'd be eating tea leaves.
[10:30] <haggis> Apheori: the world is employed by WMF
[10:30] <Apheori> But easy can be nice.
[10:30] <haggis> they just don't know it.
�06[10:30] * Apheori employs haggis.
[10:30] <haggis> yay
�06[10:30] * Apheori makes him move bodies for her.
[10:30] <Fluffernutter> murderess
[10:30] <haggis> these are lively bodies, right?
[10:30] <Apheori> No.
[10:30] <haggis> :O
[10:30] <haggis> good.
[10:31] <Ironholds> where do I find a steward.
[10:31] <haggis> Ironholds: #wikimedia-stewards
[10:31] <Fluffernutter> ^
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[10:31] <haggis> Fluffernutter: not sure if he can see, LOL
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[10:32] <Ironholds> ta
�06[10:33] * Fluffernutter eyes her watchlist balefully
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[10:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mmm
[10:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> eyes around
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[10:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter I used to be a sysop like you, then I took a troll to the knee
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[10:35] <haggis> wait, how many edits are needed to violate 3rr?
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[10:36] <Mdann52> 4
[10:36] <BarkingFish> 7 in total, initial edit - revert by user - edit - revert - edit - revert  - 7th in the sequence is the violation
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[10:36] <haggis> BarkingFish: an admin violated it :O
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[10:37] <Mdann52> Were they reverting vandalism though?
�06[10:37] * Apheori hits ToAruShiroiNeko with a frying pan.
[10:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> haggis one can be enough
[10:37] <BarkingFish> 3 edits + 3 reverts by one user, the 4th edit, regardless, is the breach - so 7 in total
[10:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 3rr exists as a general rule
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[10:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> if someone is disrupting the wiki that is enough to block
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[10:38] <Apheori> If someone is just being silly but not really impacting much it's worth ignoring.
�06[10:38] * ToAruShiroiNeko creates a potion using the omelette
[10:39] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mix omlette and vampires dust
[10:39] <ToAruShiroiNeko> + ninroot
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[10:39] <foks|vaek> yay skyrim
�03[10:39] * foks|vaek is now known as foks
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�06[10:41] * Apheori assaults foks and then kills all witnesses.
[10:41] <foks> !!
[10:41] <foks> you bitch
[10:41] <foks> >:(
[10:41] <Apheori> It works so well in skyrim.
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[10:42] <foks> Not for me it doesn't.
[10:42] <foks> :(
[10:42] <Apheori> Oh.
[10:42] <foks> Always with the 1000 bounty.
[10:42] <Apheori> Do you accept bribes?
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[10:42] <Apheori> O_o
[10:42] <foks> No.
�06[10:42] * foks is a man of honour.
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[10:42] <Apheori> I never get bounty in the first place.
[10:43] <Apheori> It helps if you're invisible.
[10:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> foks what honor?
[10:43] <foks> Apheori, indeed it does.
�06[10:43] * ToAruShiroiNeko picpockets foks and steals the honor
[10:43] <foks> ToAruShiroiNeko, honour honour!
[10:43] <foks> >:(
�06[10:43] * Apheori takes all her clothes off and runs off yelling 'I'M INVISIBLE!'
�06[10:43] * ToAruShiroiNeko picpockets the slient 'u' too
[10:43] <Pharos> that usually works in my experience
[10:43] <BarkingFish> ew. no. You're not.
[10:43] <BarkingFish> 2/10. Would not bang.
[10:44] <Apheori> Yes, well, I became a bard for a reason. >.>
[10:44] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I like pickpocketing yarls
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[10:44] <ToAruShiroiNeko> if you get pickpocketing to 100 you can pickpocket the clothes they are wearing
[10:44] <Apheori> Nobody got that reference?
[10:44] <Apheori> Tsk.
[10:44] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it is hilarious to see them indifferent to loose everything they have
[10:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Apheori I cannot imagine you as a bard
[10:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> remember how dark brotherhood handles bad bards
[10:45] <Apheori> You people need to read more webcomics.
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[10:46] <Apheori> And hey, insane is good.
[10:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> really?
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[10:46] <Apheori> Yes.
�06[10:46] * ToAruShiroiNeko hits Apheori with the wabberjack
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[10:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yay a bunny!
�06[10:46] * Apheori sings a whithering on ToAruShiroiNeko.
�06[10:47] * Pharos is an unknown bard
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[10:47] <foks> The wabberjack is shit. All it does is made crazy women approach you.
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[10:47] <foks> * makes
[10:47] <foks> :(
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[10:49] <Pharos> are made crazy women in the mafia?
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[10:49] <foks> Escusemway?
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[10:50] <BarkingFish> anyone know, when you send mail to Jimbo - roughly how long does he take to reply? Does he reply at all?
[10:50] <Pharos> he replies within 30 seconds of every inquiry
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[10:50] <BlastHardcheese> or your money back
[10:51] <BarkingFish> 0.0
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[10:51] <BarkingFish> you just blew my sarcasm meter to pieces :(
[10:51] <Pharos> "made man" in a new york expression
[10:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> foks isnt that awesome?
[10:51] <Pharos> it refers to a sworn member of the mafia
[10:51] <schiste> What's that jimbo thing?
[10:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish I have never gotten a reply form jimbo
[10:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> even if he asked me to mail him in person
[10:52] <foks> Jimbo sends you a hot reply within thirty minutes
[10:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I think he prints each email and stores it in a cardboard box
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[10:52] <foks> if it's not hot you get your next one free
[10:52] <Pharos> he prints t on pink paper and ties it with a bow
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[10:52] <BarkingFish> I have had a reply in the past, ToAruShiroiNeko - but that was almost 18 months ago, and I can't remember how long he took to get back to me.
[10:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll?
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[10:53] <BarkingFish> nope :)
[10:53] <BarkingFish> It was during a private exchange concerning my objections to PC
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[10:54] <foks> my cousin's out fighting dragons, and what do I get? Guard duty.
[10:55] <Pharos> guard duty sounds better for your health
[10:55] <BarkingFish> not necessarily. Who's gonna protect you from the dragons if they get to you while nobody else is there? :P
[10:55] <Pharos> i would rather be a general than a foot-soldier in he dragon war
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[10:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> foks no
[10:56] <Pharos> and if not a general, then a mess cook
[10:56] <Lubaf> http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/2012/08/cave-johnson-spoils-inversion/ <- Good writing making pre-emptive jokes about bad writing.
[10:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> "My cousin's out fighting dragons, and what do I get? RC patrol..."
[10:56] <foks> :D
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[10:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> If Ulfric Stormcloak was a wikipedian how quickly would he be blocked?
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[10:58] <BarkingFish> oops
[10:58] <Fluffernutter> i told you not to hit the red button
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[10:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter dont worry its probably a dragon attac
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[10:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they should respawn in 24 hours
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[11:00] <Mdann52> It worked!
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[11:01] <BarkingFish> Fluffernutter, My big red button disappeared. G-d only knows what happened to it.
[11:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Mdann52 no that was skooma
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[11:05] <Mdann52> That looks like it was my mute potion :)
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[11:08] <BarkingFish> Try using your "can't stop talking" potion. It might help.
[11:09] <BarkingFish> I remember an episode of some witch based comedy thing, trollz or something, with a spell in it that would be useful in here sometimes, Mdann52 - some kid who'd never stop yacking got this cast on them...
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[11:10] <BarkingFish> "You talk, you speak, you cannot stop, you never even nip it. You're driving me insane, so will you kindly zip it?"
[11:10] <Mdann52> Ok
[11:10] <BarkingFish> Next thing - this kid has a fucking great zip across his face, in place of his mouth, and it's padlocked at one end.
[11:10] <BarkingFish> :)
[11:11] <Mdann52> :)
[11:11] <Mdann52> X-----X
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[11:11] <BarkingFish> Man, what I wouldn't give to cast that bitch on my sister :P
[11:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish huh?
[11:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its called domestic violence
[11:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you take someone violent and domesticate him or her
[11:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> and intimidate the person you want slienced using him or her
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[11:18] <BarkingFish> Quick poll  - Do you ever feel really, really thick, when you see a joke or a riddle where the answer should be blatantly obvious, but you miss it entirely or can't think of it?
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[11:22] <foks> BarkingFish, I think people would be lying if they didn't
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[11:26] <Fasttimes68> nasty outside
[11:26] <Fluffernutter> ?
[11:26] <Fasttimes68> humid
[11:27] <BarkingFish> Fasttimes68, think of the poor guy who posted a pic of the weather forecast for his area from his iPhone on imgur.com
[11:27] <Fasttimes68> though its nothing compared to what we got a month ago
[11:27] <Fasttimes68> im not up to date with memes
[11:28] <Fasttimes68> enlighten me
[11:28] <BarkingFish> He lives in tempe, Arizona, and at 9.23 pm last night, it was still 108° outside - over the next 5 days, it ranges daytime between 110° to 116°
[11:28] <Fasttimes68> crap.. I just found out how much my christmas present just cost
[11:29] <foks> What's 108˚ in real money?
[11:29] <Fasttimes68> i dunno, but tommorow im gonna be a racist
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[11:29] <Fasttimes68> thats what you call racers, no?
[11:30] <foks> 42C
[11:30] <Fasttimes68> your seat?
[11:30] <foks> That's pretty damned hot.
[11:30] <Fasttimes68> heh
[11:31] <Fasttimes68> i could never "feel" celcius
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[11:31] <foks> "feel"?
[11:31] <foks> Probably because you've been brought up with F
[11:31] <foks> my condolences
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�06[11:31] * Pharos was raised a strict Kelvinist
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[11:32] <BarkingFish> I was bought up with both thankfully, but I normally work in F, the same as when I cook, I still do all my measurements in US
[11:32] <foks> my condolences
[11:32] <foks> :P
[11:32] <Fluffernutter> C makes no sense
[11:33] <foks> none at all
[11:33] <Pharos> my people believe zero is zero is zero
[11:33] <foks> Freezing being 0? What's that about?
[11:33] <Pharos> no room for moral relativism there
[11:33] <foks> haha
[11:33] <Pharos> the only zero we recognize is Absoute Zero
[11:34] <BarkingFish> yeah, well for us, by the time we reach 0, it's already cold enough to freeze your shoes to the sidewalk :)
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[11:36] <Pharos> negative temperatures are theAbomination in our teachings
[11:36] <Pharos> negative temperatures are a LIE
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[11:38] <BarkingFish> Pharos, to myself, certainly - saying that nothing is ever truly at freezing point until it hits a temperature at which by my reckoning, most life on earth would not exist, is an abomination.
[11:38] <BarkingFish> Has anything actually ever been frozen down to 0°K?
[11:39] <TeeTylerToe> close but no cigar
[11:39] <Pharos> it is impossible to reach absolute zero without divine absolution in our teachings
[11:39] <Pharos> this is due to the taint of original sin of course
�06[11:40] * BarkingFish wonders where the clock is.
[11:40] <BarkingFish> It's clearly short of a cuckoo.
[11:40] <BarkingFish> :)
[11:40] <The_Thing> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120808/05195419960/olympic-sex-sponsorship-athletes-get-trouble-using-non-sponsor-condoms.shtml
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[11:41] <BarkingFish> ow#
�06[11:42] * BarkingFish is just finishing his dinner, home made tuna and mushroom pasta bake
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[11:43] <Pharos> is there a good reason we don't distribute 150k free condoms at Wikimania too?
[11:43] <Pharos> think of the sposnorship possibilities
[11:43] <BarkingFish> We really should you know. Do you honestly want Wikipedians *breeding*???
�06[11:43] * BarkingFish faints at the idea
[11:44] <Peter-C> That would be 22 times a day
[11:44] <Peter-C> That would be a little more than once an hour
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[11:45] <Pharos> WiMDC really fell short on this point
[11:47] <TeeTylerToe> wikipedians violating their sponsorships by cheating with other condom brands?
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[11:48] <russavia> barkingfish, they'd have to get laid before they could breed ;)
[11:48] <Pharos> thank god for that
�06[11:49] * Fluffernutter has heard some rumours about extensive Wikimania hookups
[11:49] <Pharos> i hope the rumours included prorectin!
[11:49] <BarkingFish> good point. maybe distribute condoms if they can prove they're gonna get laid. {{cite diary}} :)
[11:49] <russavia> lol
[11:50] <Pharos> with 150k condoms, i think we can have some to spare
[11:50] <Fluffernutter> 149,950 or thereabouts
[11:50] <Pharos> on a good day!
[11:51] <BarkingFish> lol. maybe order a few less?
[11:51] <Ironholds> Fluffernutter; you're off by 50
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[11:52] <Pharos> I guess we can pass out the 145k extras in the Hong Kong redlight district
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[11:53] <russavia> you can pass some over my way if you like...am doing a sexytime photosession for commons this weekend ;)
[11:53] <Fluffernutter> ...
[11:53] <Fluffernutter> ew
[11:54] <WilliamH_UK> pahahahaha
[11:54] <Fluffernutter> and this is why, WilliamH_UK, I say that Commons is all dicks all the time
[11:54] <BarkingFish> tmi
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[11:54] <WilliamH_UK> yep
[11:54] <Actress22> hello
[11:54] <WilliamH_UK> is that what you have to do to be an admin there?
[11:54] <Actress22> does sky.com use irc
[11:55] <Actress22> ??
[11:55] <Fluffernutter> pretty much, I think
[11:55] <WilliamH_UK> jesus, god knows what you have to do in order to be a CU
[11:55] <russavia> well people are always going on about low-quality cock pics on commons....so i talked to 2 guys i hooked up with last week, and we gonna do something this weekend :)
[11:55] <BarkingFish> shit. Apparently there's been an explosion at the House holding the New Zealand olympic team in London
�06[11:55] * Pharos has not posted pornographic pictures of myself on commons
[11:55] <Pharos> i'm pretty sure!
[11:55] <BarkingFish> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10825678
[11:55] <Fluffernutter> please tell me you're going to upload them under a sockpuppet, russavia. Both because you can fuck your reputation that way, and because I do NOT want to randomly come across some dick pic and be informed it belongs to you
[11:56] <russavia> fluffernutter, i will be the one taking the photos
[11:56] <russavia> and it's going to be an "educational" photoshoot lol
[11:56] <BlastHardcheese> Who hates New Zealand? Probably drunken athletes doing things they shouldn't
[11:57] <Pharos> i hate New Zealand
[11:57] <Pharos> the thiefs with the furry feets
[11:57] <Fluffernutter> "educational" is always the word commons applies to porntastic images. "It's educational! If someone needs to learn how to shove an aubergine up their behind, we can use the image to teach them!"
[11:57] <BarkingFish> Nope, it was a barbecue at the rear of Kiwi House, apparently the gas bottle exploded
[11:57] <russavia> you know why kiwis can't take their wives to the cricket?
[11:57] <russavia> because they keep jumping over the fence to eat the grass
[11:57] <BarkingFish> ouch
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[11:58] <Pharos> is that considreed offensive?
[11:58] <Pharos> it's just their culture
[11:58] <Pharos> be open-mindede my friends
[11:58] <russavia> #truestory pharos
[11:59] <russavia> fluffernutter, we do need well done photos for commons on a range of sexual topics though
[11:59] <russavia> and we can't deny that
[11:59] <Fluffernutter> the key being well-done, really. Well, that and 'not duplicative'
[12:00] <russavia> and I will be doing the "well done" side of things
[12:00] <Pharos> should we put a call for volunteers on sitenotice?
[12:00] <Fluffernutter> volunteers for dick pictures?
[12:00] <Fluffernutter> we really don't need to recruit any more people for those
[12:00] <Matthew_> !admin I need a revdel,please.
[12:00] <russavia> pharos, i have a very strict criteria for not making me want to barf whilst doing them
[12:00] <worm_that_turned> Hi Matthew_
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[12:00] <Pharos> maybe for more varieties
[12:00] <Matthew_> worm_that_turned: PM?
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[12:00] <worm_that_turned> drop me a pm
[12:00] <worm_that_turned> :)
[12:01] <Actress22> o_O
[12:01] <russavia> plus, this is all part of my "training" in doing human photography
[12:01] <Pharos> have you met a human before?
[12:02] <Pharos> how to they compare to new zealanders?
[12:02] <russavia> not commenting on that one ;)
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[12:03] <Fluffernutter> why do we dislike kiwis, now?
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[12:04] <Pharos> they're different
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[12:04] <russavia> kiwi's are a different breed
[12:04] <Actress22> ;/
[12:05] <Pharos> also, they're smarter and better-looking
[12:05] <russavia> smarter in the sense of them all moving to australia where they can get on the dole instead of having to work at home
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[12:07] <Pharos> this is a kind of smartness
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[12:07] <Peter-C> We need to invade Canada
[12:08] <Pharos> too easy, no?
[12:08] <Pharos> i like a challenge
[12:08] <mysterytrey> London?
[12:09] <Peter-C> We just need to airdrop our navy into the great lakes
[12:09] <mysterytrey> Wikipedia should take mars.
[12:10] <Pharos> I bet the governors of NY could conquer Canada
[12:10] <BlastHardcheese> the sports team?
[12:10] <Pharos> no, the last three governors, as a fighting team
[12:10] <Pharos> spitzer, paterson, cuomo
[12:11] <Pharos> in a pinch, they could bring in pataki and cuomo sr
[12:11] <russavia> i heard france is pretty easy to invade
[12:11] <Peter-C> I hate when this happens - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOQDp1-NUE&feature=player_detailpage
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[12:13] <Pharos> have you ever *tried* invading france?
[12:13] <Pharos> more trouble than it's worth
[12:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos I tried
[12:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> turns out it was belgium
[12:13] <Pharos> exactly
[12:13] <Pharos> it's not as easy as it looks
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[12:14] <Pharos> i spent 3 weeks and all i had was the louvres pyramid
[12:14] <Pharos> and that's not easy to defend
[12:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sure its easy
[12:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> just grab a sledge hammer and threaten to break it
[12:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> either france will surrender or you will be sniped
[12:15] <Pharos> exactly, easy to conquer but not to defend
[12:18] <Matthew_> Am I the only one that can't get to this page: http://toolserver.org/~enwp10/bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&projecta=List&importance=Top-Class&quality=List-Class ?
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[12:19] <Tony_Sidaway> Matthew_: I got a 403 with that URL
[12:19] <Matthew_> Tony_Sidaway: OK, me too.  I'm glad I'm not the only one.
[12:20] <Tony_Sidaway> Why do people mangle email addresses? It's utterly pointless unless you want to make it difficult for people to contact you by email. If you want that, just don't put an email address of any kind up.
[12:21] <Matthew_> Tony_Sidaway: You mean on the web?  Because there a bots that crawl the web looking for email addresses to spam.
[12:21] <Tony_Sidaway> "Oh we might get spammed." Daft excuse. Get a decent filter.
[12:21] <Tony_Sidaway> Matthew_: the spam doesn't get through. My email address is all over and I don't see a spam message from one month end to the next.
[12:22] <mysterytrey> Tony_Sidaway: By that Matthew_ means to annoy people.
[12:22] <Matthew_> Tony_Sidaway: Not every email provider has that luxury.  I split my Toolserver email because I don't have a spam filter on it.
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[12:23] <Tony_Sidaway> And how difficult do you imagine it is to write a simple perl script to recognise a mangled email address and translate it?
[12:23] <Tony_Sidaway> I'll tell you: a lot easier for machines than humans.
[12:24] <Tony_Sidaway> Dpm
[12:24] <Tony_Sidaway> Sorry that was a typo.
[12:25] <Matthew_> Tony_Sidaway: For me, very difficult.  I don't know perl ;)
[12:25] <Matthew_> Seriously, though, spammers are quite lazy and probably don't want to do that.  Not with easier pickings out there.
[12:26] <Tony_Sidaway> I'll tell you who's lazy: cretins who mangle their email addresses thus making everybody who needs to contact them jump through unnecessary hoops.
[12:26] <Guerillero> They aren't as easy as they used to be
[12:26] <TeeTylerToe> I suppose the perl script could add every permutation of the address to it's list
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[12:28] <Tony_Sidaway> "enwp10 [at] toolserver [dot] org" How many permutations of that do you imagine there are? And no, the solution is not to mangle email addresses even more.
[12:28] <Peter-C> Pharos - We need a meetup in front of Bloomberg’s house
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[12:28] <Peter-C> We will all drink 64oz sodas and drink it in his face
[12:29] <Pharos> i'm considering retiring and appointing bllomberg my wmnyc successor
[12:29] <Pharos> i think he'd be hnored!
[12:29] <Tony_Sidaway> It's nearly as bad as those idiots who try to foil spammers by making genuine users squint and guess what some horrible smudgy by of distorted text saya.
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[12:30] <Pharos> we should get a $50m donation from him while we're at it
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[12:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway to be fair captcha has a purpose
[12:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> few people know it is actually supervised learning for OCR
[12:33] <Pharos> that's only recaptcha
[12:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yes
[12:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> some others also do it
[12:33] <Pharos> which wmf doesn't use ;)
[12:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> wmf doesnt use anything
[12:34] <Pharos> it uses science
[12:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> wmf wiki is exclusive registration
[12:34] <Pharos> and the dark arts
[12:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> and dark elfs
[12:35] <Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: even if every single "captcha" had a genuine alternative purpose, they could ask for volunteers to do that, couldn't they?
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[12:36] <Tony_Sidaway> I don't have great eyesight, but it's good enough for everyday life. I shudder to think what captcha does to people whose eyes just aren't good at all.
[12:36] <Pharos> there is audio captcha
[12:36] <Tony_Sidaway> And deaf?
[12:37] <Pharos> smellovision captcha
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[12:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway people are forced to volunteer
[12:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its the best kind <3
[12:38] <aude> Pharos: not for wikipedia.
[12:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> caotcha doesnt work because inherantly OCR beats it
[12:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> *captcha
[12:38] <aude> no audio captcha
[12:39] <Pharos> huh, why not?
[12:39] <Pharos> is it a "security" thing?
[12:39] <aude> no idea.  recaptcha is not open source and is flawed
[12:39] <ToAruShiroiNeko> probbaly they dont have ogg captcha
[12:39] <aude> don't know of an open source alt.
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[12:40] <aude> you can request an acct via toolserver i think but good luck finding that
[12:40] <mysterytrey> Do you have to pay to have a toolserver account?  I've always wondered that.
[12:40] <Pharos> what, of course not
[12:41] <Pharos> wikipedia is freedom
[12:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway I hate having captcha since it really doesnt stop spam
[12:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> asking logic questions is more effective
[12:42] <aude> mysterytrey: no
[12:42] <mysterytrey> Ah.
[12:42] <Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: yes, a decent neural net or kernel should beat it no problem.
[12:42] <aude> ToAruShiroiNeko: agree
[12:42] <Pharos> there's no such thing as a 'paid account' anywhere in thwe wikimedia universe
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[12:44] <Tony_Sidaway> I had a tool server account but didn't really do much with it, so I let it lapse. You could just apply for it by stating roughly what you'd be doing.
[12:45] <Tony_Sidaway> I later did some bot experiments but those were from my system or various shell accounts.
[12:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway nothing so advanced
[12:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the spammers have hundreds of thousands of computers at their command
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[12:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they can guess by trying randomly if they like
[12:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you have botnets that have over one million ips
[12:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos sagner was the first and only paid editor
[12:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he chose to resign\
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[12:49] <Pharos> but he did not pay to be an editor ;)
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[13:07] <mysterytrey> qbbo?, well, that means this channel has had a lot of vandalism recently.
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[13:12] <BadGirl_> Hi
[13:13] <Ironholds> heyo
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[13:19] <Seddon> hey Ironholds
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�06[13:21] * Seddon feels unloved
�06[13:21] * worm_that_turned waves at Seddon
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�06[13:22] * Seddon waves to worm_that_turned :)
�06[13:22] * Maryana loves seddon
[13:22] <Maryana> :)
[13:22] <worm_that_turned> :)
�06[13:22] * BadGirl_ Marry me
[13:22] <Maryana> and worm_that_turned!
[13:22] <Maryana> :D
[13:22] <worm_that_turned> lol
[13:22] <Maryana> seddon: i think ironholds is at lunch
[13:22] <Seddon> damn it, thought I was special
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[13:22] <Seddon> ahhhhh ok
[13:22] <Jpyamamoto09> Hola
[13:22] <Maryana> you are very special
[13:23] <Maryana> special:random :)
[13:23] <worm_that_turned> Can't we be special together?
[13:23] <Jpyamamoto09> thanks
[13:23] <Seddon> lol
[13:23] <Isarra> Seddon: You are special. If you manage to be unloved here without someone killing you, why, that is incredibly special.
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[13:23] <Seddon> oh Maryana, you so funny :P
[13:23] <BadGirl_> Jpyamamoto09: hola
[13:23] <Maryana> the special pages jokes, they never get old
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[13:24] <Jpyamamoto09> Hola
[13:24] <Jpyamamoto09> te quieres unir a mi casa
[13:24] <Jpyamamoto09> *causa
[13:24] <Qcoder02> How many new page patrollers does it take to change a light bulb? - None the just tag it as blown
[13:24] <Qcoder02> :(
[13:24] <Isarra> Casa was funnier.
[13:24] <Qcoder02> *they
[13:24] <BadGirl_> Que causa Jpyamamoto09
[13:25] <Jpyamamoto09> estoy creando un Wikiproyecto llamado Wikiproyecto:Internet
[13:25] <Jpyamamoto09> y nesecito que votes por la creación
[13:25] <BadGirl_> Jpyamamoto09: Sabes que no puedo editar en la wiki
[13:25] <Qcoder02> BarkingFish: NZ House had a fire?
[13:25] <Jpyamamoto09> cierto
[13:26] <Jpyamamoto09> me tengo que ir
[13:26] <BadGirl_> Jpyamamoto09: claro te ayudaria desde la wiki en inglés jejejeje
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[13:26] <Qcoder02> russavia:  You are going to a famr to take a picture of ornothological breeding?
[13:26] <Qcoder02> Won't someone think of the chicklets?
[13:26] <Qcoder02> XD
[13:26] <Qcoder02> *farm
[13:27] <BadGirl_> ok chao Jpyamamoto09
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[13:28] <BadGirl_> A.N.T. Farm Qcoder02
[13:28] <Qcoder02> ??
[13:29] <BobTheWikipedian> artichoke, nutmeg, and tomato farm
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[13:29] <BadGirl_> Qcoder02: Sorry
[13:30] <Qcoder02> I'm still going to take picture of my alien costume when I;ve completed it...
[13:30] <Qcoder02> Does anyone here think Wikipedia needs pictures of make up tactics?
[13:30] <BobTheWikipedian> save it for pinterest
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[13:31] <Qcoder02> ??
[13:31] <BobTheWikipedian> look it up :)
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[13:31] <BobTheWikipedian> site for sharing images
[13:31] <BadGirl_> Qcoder02:  these confused
[13:33] <Peter-C> wtf does one wear to a village council meeting
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[13:33] <Qcoder02> A auit
[13:33] <Qcoder02> *Suit
[13:33] <BobTheWikipedian> stockings?
[13:33] <Peter-C> I don’t wanna D:
[13:33] <BlastHardcheese> nothing
[13:33] <Peter-C> ^good idea
[13:33] <Qcoder02> What is a Village Council ?
[13:33] <Peter-C> Show them I am open to new idea
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[13:34] <BlastHardcheese> presumably a council for a village
[13:34] <mareklug> Peter-C:  in the audience in the summer, a tshirt
[13:34] <BadGirl_>  See you later
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[13:34] <Peter-C> addios
[13:34] <Qcoder02> If it's anything like a British Parish Council, just wearing seomthing conservative but casul will be fine
[13:34] <Qcoder02> A shirt is usally required
[13:34] <mysterytrey> Who's badgirl_ ?
[13:34] <BobTheWikipedian> or a blouse
[13:35] <Qcoder02> If female yes
[13:35] <Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - I AM NOT WEARING A BLOUCE
[13:35] <BobTheWikipedian> lol
[13:35] <Pharos> what are you doingf at the village council?
[13:35] <Qcoder02> Peter-C: If you are able to see me please respond
[13:35] <BobTheWikipedian> i hope not!
[13:35] <Peter-C> Qcoder02 - what
[13:36] <Qcoder02> Peter-C:  Thanks
[13:36] <Qcoder02> I had a chance to reconsider certain things I said earlier in the year
[13:36] <Peter-C> Pharos - We are proposing a 1.5 million dollar project for a new radio system
[13:36] <Peter-C> Moving from 300 band to 700 band
[13:36] <Qcoder02> Qcoder02 = Qcoder00
[13:36] <Peter-C> O’rlly?
[13:36] <Qcoder02> I locked myself out of the old account
[13:36] <Qcoder02> :(
[13:37] <Qcoder02> BTW Are you willing to back a campaign against tasteless 9/11 jokes?
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[13:38] <Fasttimes68> Is there a commons chan on freenode?
[13:38] <Qcoder02> Fasttimes68: #Wikimedia-Commons
[13:38] <Fasttimes68> danke
[13:38] <Fasttimes68> might as well do something there
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[13:39] <Qcoder02> Peter-C: Anyway good luck with the EMS stuff in any event
[13:39] <Qcoder02> :)
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[13:40] <BobTheWikipedian> qcoder - btw = me?
[13:40] <mattbuck> can someone semi [[University of Nottingham]] please? lots of IP peacocking recently
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[13:41] <Qcoder02> Peter-C: Thanks for the response :)
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[13:42] <mareklug> USA defeats USA for gold in ladies' beach ball.  for a 3rd straight gold for the pair.
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[13:42] <BobTheWikipedian> usa self-defeated?
[13:43] <mareklug> self-won, too.
[13:43] <BobTheWikipedian> is that legal?
[13:43] <mareklug> gold and silver.
[13:43] <The_Blade> BobTheWikipedian; it's a bit like Schroedinger's cat, isn't it.  Simultaneously winners and losers.
[13:44] <Fasttimes68> beach vollyball is lame
[13:44] <mareklug> all around it was a banner day for usa  in track and field, too.
[13:44] <Peter-C> Oh look, someone in my down died at a party
[13:45] <BobTheWikipedian> sorta....but the cat represents certain uncertainty
[13:45] <BlastHardcheese> we're so awesome the only ones who can beat us are ourselves
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[13:45] <Peter-C> Didn’t see that one coming, except for the fact I did
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[13:48] <kaldari> the clorox headquarters is about 4 blocks from my house
[13:48] <kaldari> which is probably not important
[13:48] <Frood> why do people pay extra for brand-name bleach?
[13:48] <Frood> it's like
[13:48] <Frood> okay you have chlorine and you add some stuff
[13:48] <Frood> i think
[13:49] <Frood> i should probably look this up before i speak more
[13:49] <kaldari> even generic bleach normally contains chlorine
[13:49] <mareklug> brand trust is a powerful thing
[13:49] <Frood> kaldari: that's what i mean
[13:49] <kaldari> you pay extra for the cool logo
[13:49] <Frood> it's hard to mess taht up
[13:49] <Frood> if you have an extra atom in the chlorine, you don't have chlorine
[13:50] <Frood> er, not atom
[13:50] <kaldari> what I want to know is where can I buy pure bleach
[13:50] <Frood> electron/neutron/proton
[13:50] <Frood> what kind of bleach?
[13:50] <kaldari> regular bleach is like 10% bleach actually
[13:50] <kaldari> what if I need to burn a hole through my floor?
[13:50] <Frood> there are apparently a lot of kinds of bleach
[13:51] <Frood> chlorine?
[13:51] <BobTheWikipedian> haha if only i could copy/paste this discussion onto my application for the social media manager position with clorox i'm applying for...
[13:51] <kaldari> NaClO
[13:51] <Tony_Sidaway> You can get fairly concentrated bleach. If you really need pure bleach (and are a competent chemist) you can make it in the kitchen.
[13:52] <IRWolfie-> The_Blade: you there
[13:52] <The_Blade> Yeah.
[13:52] <IRWolfie-> The_Blade: I had a question about Korean
[13:52] <IRWolfie-> you are Korean right?
[13:52] <BobTheWikipedian> yay, a client i turned down called to find out what other string quartets are available
[13:52] <The_Blade> No, but I know some about it.
[13:52] <Tony_Sidaway> Trouble is of course some bleaches are also used in explosives...
[13:52] <IRWolfie-> ah, you don't speak the korean language do you?
[13:53] <kaldari> I also found out that duct tape is used by terrorists
[13:53] <BobTheWikipedian> so are #2 pencils
[13:53] <IRWolfie-> I was wondering what the korean for North Korea literally translates into
[13:53] <The_Blade> No, my second language of sorts is Japanese
[13:53] <kaldari> and typewriters!
[13:53] <The_Blade> That I think I know, though...
[13:54] <mareklug> kaldari:  and Boeing B 757
[13:54] <kaldari> the USPS wouldn't let me ship a package wrapped with duct tape because they said duct tape was used by terrorists. no joke.
[13:54] <The_Blade> It translates to "Joseon Democratic People's Republic"
[13:54] <The_Blade> As if it really is...
[13:55] <kaldari> I should have asked if terrorists used stamps
[13:55] <IRWolfie-> Joseon is?
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[13:55] <IRWolfie-> aha, an old unified korean state?
[13:56] <BobTheWikipedian> lol kaldari
[13:56] <BobTheWikipedian> i've never used duct tape for sealing a package
[13:56] <The_Blade> Ah, got me in the middle of typing it.
[13:56] <BobTheWikipedian> i use mailing tape
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[13:57] <The_Blade> I can read some hanja, so I can generally get pretty close if I have them there.
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[13:58] <BobTheWikipedian> today i found an impossible captcha
[13:58] <The_Blade> Ah, those.
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[13:59] <jc33> BobTheWikipedian: ?
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[13:59] <Isarra> It's okay. We're all terrorists here.
[13:59] <jc33> http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/writerjudd/IMG_0303.png
[13:59] <BobTheWikipedian> one by recaptcha, actually
[13:59] <jc33> "headshits"?
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[13:59] <BobTheWikipedian> i don't recall having troubles with recaptcha before
[13:59] <Isarra> We want to make knowledge available to people. If that's not terrifying, I dunno what is.
[14:00] <BobTheWikipedian> i seriously had to hit refresh captcha at least 100 or 200 times to see something i could make out
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[14:00] <jc33> oh, Outlook.com?
[14:00] <BobTheWikipedian> eventually got frustrated and hit the audio button
[14:00] <Isarra> O_o
[14:00] <BobTheWikipedian> which wasn't an improvement
[14:00] <BobTheWikipedian> much to my surprise
[14:01] <BobTheWikipedian> anyone else have problems with this captcha? https://www3.apply2jobs.com/Clorox/ProfExt/index.cfm?fuseaction=mExternal.showLogin
[14:01] <foks> The audio button is utterly impossible
[14:01] <foks> BobTheWikipedian, no?
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[14:01] <foks> ...hurr
[14:02] <BobTheWikipedian> does the audio work for you?
[14:03] <foks> Audio captchas don't ever work
[14:03] <Isarra> It makes my brain hurt.
[14:03] <foks> I have no idea what to listen for
[14:03] <BobTheWikipedian> mine sounds like a bunch of people talking gibberish atop one another
[14:03] <foks> it's just loads of people talking.
[14:03] <Isarra> But then, most captchas do.
[14:03] <foks> What are you listening for exactly?
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[14:03] <BobTheWikipedian> individual letters to type
[14:03] <foks> well I can't hear anything
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[14:07] <BobTheWikipedian> submitted a "too hard to read" report and noted the audio issue. hopefully that's the last time i encounter that issue
[14:07] <lexein> Quick question - is [[User:Wiki.2012.pedia]] username running afoul of [[WP:USERNAME]]?
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[14:08] <BobTheWikipedian> am i?
[14:09] <Isarra> BobTheWikipedian: Yes.
[14:09] <lexein> aren't you grandfathered in for being a wikibeardian?
[14:09] <BobTheWikipedian> lol
[14:09] <BobTheWikipedian> before i had a unified login, i had to use a different name on the japanese wiki
[14:09] <BobTheWikipedian> "bob" is blacklisted there
[14:09] <GorillaWarfare> Hmm. Making a for sale poster for my car is difficult...
[14:09] <lexein> oooh, don't go there, man
[14:10] <GorillaWarfare> "Runs pretty well, I think" isn't terribly confidence-inspiring...
[14:10] <BobTheWikipedian> lol gorilla
[14:10] <BobTheWikipedian> why do you like the car?
[14:10] <GorillaWarfare> BobTheWikipedian: I don't. That would be why I'm selling it :P
[14:10] <BobTheWikipedian> what is there to show off?
[14:10] <GorillaWarfare> BobTheWikipedian: Nothing?
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[14:11] <BobTheWikipedian> then scrap it
[14:11] <GorillaWarfare> Just because I don't like it doesn't mean someone else won't :P
[14:11] <BobTheWikipedian> "worth its weight in gold"?
[14:11] <kaldari> GorillaWarfare: "no flat tires"?
[14:11] <GorillaWarfare> Hahaha
[14:11] <BobTheWikipedian> lol kaldari
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[14:11] <GorillaWarfare> "Had a fuel leak but I fixed it"
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[14:12] <BobTheWikipedian> then say "new fuel line"
[14:12] <BobTheWikipedian> "new tires"
[14:12] <BobTheWikipedian> "new transmission"
[14:12] <GorillaWarfare> I'm not sure how to word it...
[14:12] <BobTheWikipedian> "new air freshener"
[14:12] <kaldari> lol
[14:12] <GorillaWarfare> "New plastic thinger that pumps fuel in"
�06[14:12] * GorillaWarfare is not a car person
[14:12] <BobTheWikipedian> oh i got one of those too
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[14:12] <Isarra> "Car for sale. It runs."
[14:13] <kaldari> don't mention the plastic :)
[14:13] <BobTheWikipedian> "new fuel injector"
[14:13] <BobTheWikipedian> "leak is probably fixed"
[14:13] <mareklug> "cheap, dependable transportation"
[14:13] <IRWolfie-> The_Blade: thanks
[14:13] <kaldari> "no foul odors"
[14:13] <IRWolfie-> (forgot to say :>)
[14:13] <The_Blade> No proble
[14:13] <The_Blade> *problem
[14:14] <lexein> Well, you know those Chinese made "anvils"?  Real blacksmiths call them ASO's.   Anvil-shaped objects.  So, you have a "car-like object, resembles most legally permitted moving passenger vehicles. no features. no big gaps."
[14:14] <BobTheWikipedian> "buy now and return the fuel injection with the included receipt for its full value"
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[14:14] <BobTheWikipedian> "hurry fast, only 14 days remaining on warranty!"
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[14:15] <kaldari> "Not a Trabant!"
[14:15] <GorillaWarfare> xD
[14:15] <kaldari> unless it is
[14:15] <BobTheWikipedian> "or a pinto!"
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[14:16] <mysterytrey> Pinto!
[14:16] <GorillaWarfare> BobTheWikipedian: It's a minivan :S
[14:16] <mysterytrey> Faster than a ferrari!
[14:16] <BobTheWikipedian> "seats seven!"
[14:16] <GorillaWarfare> That's on there
[14:16] <Fasttimes68> We had a Pinto
[14:16] <mysterytrey> Lucky you.
[14:16] <Fasttimes68> it was an awseome little car
[14:16] <mysterytrey> ?
[14:17] <TeeTylerToe> beetle queen conquers tokyo?
[14:17] <kaldari> "Bigger than a Trabant!"
[14:17] <Fasttimes68> "damper than an armpit!"
[14:17] <BobTheWikipedian> perfect for squeezing in as many politicians as necessary before cementing the accelerator to the floor with the vehicle aimed at a cliff!"
[14:18] <Fasttimes68> !time
[14:18] <Fasttimes68> need useful bots in here
[14:18] <BobTheWikipedian> "your candidate's opponent doesn't stand a chance with this one"
[14:19] <kaldari> "fine japanese engineering"
[14:19] <mysterytrey> Presidential Limo --> Presidential Pinto
[14:20] <Qcoder02> Anyone here got a good female voice?
[14:20] <Fasttimes68> hmm looks like rtc actually did an Mfd for the nazi logo
[14:20] <BobTheWikipedian> mine's a bit falsetto-y
[14:20] <Isarra> My orchid grew a leaf.
[14:20] <Isarra> I thought it vitally important you all knew that.
[14:20] <kaldari> Qcoder02: hate to tell you this, but IRC is text only
[14:20] <BobTheWikipedian> my mandeville got scorched, withered, and is now a brown clump
[14:21] <Isarra> Also, have you seen wikipedia's assortment of women?
[14:21] <jc33> Qcoder02: But there's color.
[14:21] <GorillaWarfare> *sigh* I finally found the perfect barbell for a piercing of mine, and it's not in my size
[14:21] <Isarra> WMF already hired most of the good ones.
[14:21] <Qcoder02> ROFL
[14:21] <Pharos> does this look good? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pharos/WTA
�06[14:21] * GorillaWarfare glares at this website
[14:21] <Fasttimes68> are you gonna put it in your prick?
[14:21] <mareklug> Qcoder02:  Sangeeta the Indian voice on the mac.  I think it is also publicly available
[14:21] <GorillaWarfare> Fasttimes68: That's the plan.
[14:21] <Fasttimes68> why
[14:21] <jc33> looks ok
[14:21] <kaldari> seems like a trick question
[14:21] <Qcoder02> I was wanting a female voice to record something
[14:22] <Qcoder02> :)
[14:22] <Isarra> Pharos: Big button.
[14:22] <Maryana> isarra: :D
[14:22] <Qcoder02> Anyone here interested in recording jane Austen?
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[14:22] <Isarra> ^^
[14:22] <BobTheWikipedian> pharos.....i think we agreed that anyone posting links without descriptions gets killed by fluffernutter
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[14:22] <Qcoder02> It needs a  British English female voice
[14:23] <Qcoder02> I know someone I could ask to record Dickens, but didn't know anyone to record Austen
[14:23] <Isarra> LOOK A LINK! http://wikipedia.org/
[14:23] <mareklug> then Fiona the Scottish voice on the mac
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[14:23] <jc33> BUSTED :D
[14:23] <jc33> 17:30, 8 August 2012 DerHexer (talk | contribs) changed status for global account "User:Jamesn (WMF)@global": Set locked; Unset (none) (WMF impersonator)
�06[14:23] * BobTheWikipedian hits isarra with a pan
�06[14:23] * jc33 has a good nose
[14:23] <jc33> um
[14:23] <Isarra> Ow.
[14:23] <kaldari> Qcoder02: There is a woman who does some very good audio articles, but don't remember her username
[14:23] <GorillaWarfare> Qcoder02: Female yes, British no :/
[14:23] <GorillaWarfare> What's it for?
[14:23] <BobTheWikipedian> isarra stop sharing your porn sites
[14:24] <Qcoder02> Recording Jane Austen ;
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[14:24] <Isarra> Actually, most of the porn is at wikimedia.org, not wikipedia.org.
[14:24] <Qcoder02> Unless there's already a Librivox
[14:24] <BobTheWikipedian> sh!
[14:24] <GorillaWarfare> Qcoder02: I got that… I meant for what purpose
[14:24] <Isarra> I'm just sayin'.
[14:24] <Qcoder02> Wikisource
[14:24] <TeeTylerToe> jane austin isn't porn
[14:24] <Qcoder02> Also is there any Sci-fi on Wikisource?
[14:24] <TeeTylerToe> for men at least
[14:25] <BobTheWikipedian> :o
[14:25] <Isarra> Actually, technically speaking, I suppose it's all at wikimedia.org, what with the uploads being a subdomain of that one...
[14:25] <BobTheWikipedian> i just saw a [[bare-fronted hoodwink]] fly past my window
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[14:28] <lexein> Jane Austen is verbosity-porn.  Mmmm, too many words....
[14:29] <The_Blade> The worst for verbosity is William Faulkner.
[14:29] <GorillaWarfare> Mrr, I love Wikisource ^^\
�06[14:29] * lexein MmmmmmmmmMMMMMmmmm
[14:30] <BobTheWikipedian> hmmm. would the kentucky-indiana border be "great lakes" or "great plains"?
[14:31] <mareklug> it's ohio valley
[14:31] <The_Blade> We should start an edit war over it and get it on WP:LAME
[14:31] <BobTheWikipedian> yeah...this is multiple choice though
[14:31] <mareklug> great lakes for evansville
[14:31] <BobTheWikipedian> hmmm great lakes seems closer, i'll go with that
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[14:35] <Pharos> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_America now has the magical wizard thing
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[14:36] <Seddon> Pharos, getting gandalf involved is cheating :P
[14:36] <Pharos> WALRUS in 3.5 bhours
[14:36] <The_Blade> Well, stop him then.
[14:36] <Pharos> gandalf is a well-known WALRUS
[14:38] <TeeTylerToe> is the mythbusters jamie gandalf's love child?
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[14:39] <BobTheWikipedian> :o https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wikimedians-Active-in-Local-Regions-of-the-US-WALRUS/119950258145543
[14:39] <BobTheWikipedian> walrus clobbers facebook
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[14:41] <foks> WALRUK
[14:41] <BobTheWikipedian> lol
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[14:41] <Pharos> WALRUK is welcome to join
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[14:41] <Pharos> who registered on facebook?
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[14:42] <BobTheWikipedian> pharos - where's your list of good animal names?
[14:42] <BobTheWikipedian> heh i set it up on fb months ago
[14:42] <Pharos> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Walronyms
[14:43] <BobTheWikipedian> none of them have UK in them
[14:44] <Pharos> WALRUK is good enough
[14:44] <foks> I love that that exists, Pharos
[14:44] <foks> :D
[14:44] <BobTheWikipedian> gotta be a walronym with "UK" in it :P
[14:44] <Pharos> i think i have a fair idea of what a walruk must look like ;)
[14:44] <BobTheWikipedian> 10 points for whoever can think of a UK walronym
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[14:45] <TeeTylerToe> A close second in the VP candidate race behind rafalka?
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[14:48] <Pharos> Scottish Organization of Wikimedians
[14:48] <BobTheWikipedian> that insn't inclusive
[14:48] <BobTheWikipedian> that singles out englishmen
[14:49] <BobTheWikipedian> it would be like having the confederate organization of wikimedians, what about the union?
[14:50] <Pharos> foks is a raging scottish nsationalist
[14:50] <foks> I already said WALRUK!
[14:50] <foks> Also, I totally am.
[14:50] <Logan_> WALRUS
[14:50] <BobTheWikipedian> quack
[14:50] <foks> United States of SCOTLAND
�06[14:51] * foks declares war, etc.
[14:51] <RD> *China
[14:51] <Pharos> i believe a WALRUS would be a cross between a walrus and an auroch
[14:51] <Pharos> a most formidab;e beast
[14:51] <BobTheWikipedian> isarra
[14:51] <Pharos> *WALRUK i mean
[14:52] <GorillaWarfare> Sven_Manguard: o/
[14:52] <Sven_Manguard> o/
[14:52] <BobTheWikipedian> issarrrrrrraaaaa....
[14:52] <Logan_> OMG IT'S SVEN
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[14:52] <Sven_Manguard> o/
�06[14:52] * Logan_ eats fluffernutter
[14:52] <Logan_> sandwich
[14:52] <foks> Wikimedians And High Octane Occurances
�06[14:52] * Fluffernutter dies
[14:52] <GorillaWarfare> Sven_Manguard: So, bummer: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_States_%E2%80%93_Vietnam_Relations,_1945%E2%80%931967:_A_Study_Prepared_by_the_Department_of_Defense/I._C._Ho_Chi_Minh:_Asian_Tito%3F#11
[14:53] <BobTheWikipedian> oe, to, tree, fur, fve, sx, sven, eght, nne, tn!
[14:53] <[ceradon]> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s480x480/480781_10152025094945942_941956410_n.jpg Welp
[14:53] <Sven_Manguard> BobTheWikipedian: yawn
[14:53] <Sven_Manguard> GorillaWarfare: you need me to delete things?
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[14:53] <Sven_Manguard> Or... wait... that was the one you were working on?!
[14:53] <Sven_Manguard> Wha?!
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[14:54] <BobTheWikipedian> "sven" appears in pop culture. in monkey island, the street dealer code is "have you got a brother named sven?"
[14:54] <GorillaWarfare> Sven_Manguard: Nah, Pathoschild and Logan helped me out there
[14:54] <foks> Wikimedians On Lighter Fuel
[14:55] <foks> WOLF
[14:55] <BobTheWikipedian> um
[14:55] <GorillaWarfare> It's all set, just a shame
[14:55] <BobTheWikipedian> good luck applying for grants under that name, foks
[14:55] <foks> :3
[14:55] <Pharos> in USAmerica, we say Wikimedians in Lighter Fluid
[14:56] <Pharos> On
[14:56] <BobTheWikipedian> i was gonna say the same
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[14:57] <Sven_Manguard> GorillaWarfare: what happened?
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[14:57] <Sven_Manguard> all that was excerpts?
[14:57] <GorillaWarfare> The text contained a number of excerpts from copyrighted books
[14:57] <GorillaWarfare> Indeed
[14:57] <Isarra> Huh?
[14:57] <Sven_Manguard> goddamned CIA
[14:57] <Isarra> BobTheWikipedian: What?
[14:58] <BobTheWikipedian> foks needs a logo
[14:58] <BobTheWikipedian> of a walruk
[14:58] <Isarra> For what?
[14:58] <Isarra> What's that?
[14:58] <BobTheWikipedian> for walruk, of cousre
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[14:58] <foks> It's like a walrus, but with less s and more k.
[14:58] <foks> I don't need a logo.
[14:58] <foks> :3
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[15:07] <BobTheWikipedian> yay for applications that time out :P
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�06[15:09] * Isarra tattoos a walrus on foks.
[15:10] <foks> >:(
[15:10] <Pharos> the day someone gets a waalrus tattoo, is the day my work is done
[15:10] <Isarra> Comma splice.
[15:10] <Actress22> back
[15:11] <Pharos> all my splices are intentional
[15:12] <Pharos> altho ii don't plan on any walrus tattooos yill 2024
[15:12] <Pharos> *till
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[15:14] <russavia> pharos, condoms were the topic of discussion earlier ---- https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/484513_343285175752590_39579738_n.jpg
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[15:16] <Pharos> that's some kind oif justice
[15:17] <Pharos> anyway, what page should i use for planning farifuture wikimanias?
[15:20] <Pharos> [[Wikimedia X]]?
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[15:26] <Sven_Manguard> Pharos: "Wikimania Mars"?
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[15:28] <mysterytrey> Sven_Manguard: Yes!
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[15:30] <Sven_Manguard> Wikimania Mars: "Free oxygen for everyone except for the WR people"
[15:31] <mysterytrey> WR people?
[15:31] <Sven_Manguard> if you don't know, you're better for it
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[15:31] <Sven_Manguard> Wikimania Mars: "Excursion to the location where the Curiosity rover found liquid water (and Jimmy Hoffa swimming in it)"
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[15:35] <mareklug> and Jimmy Hoffa sleeping with the fishes in it
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[15:39] <Pharos> WALRUS IN 2.5 hours
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[15:44] <Sven_Manguard> Pharos: what?
[15:44] <Sven_Manguard> An IRC meeting>
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[15:44] <Pharos> yes
[15:44] <Pharos> in #wikimedia-us
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[15:45] <Pharos> we can also plan the next real-life meeting
[15:45] <Pharos> I was thinking Texas!
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[15:46] <Pharos> at a HI hostel!
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[15:54] <Pharos> i am in love with the canadian poet-in-residence at the olympics
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[15:56] <Sven_Manguard> Pharos: I, as a sane person, would never set foot in that place.
[15:56] <Sven_Manguard> Except to visit user:La Pianista
[15:56] <Sven_Manguard> and even then, I'd have to wear a biohazard suit and avoid contact with politicians
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[15:57] <Pharos> love for canadian poets is never sane
[15:57] <Sven_Manguard> Hi WTT
[15:57] <mareklug> http://www.pbs.org/newshour/art/blog/2012/08/wednesday-on-the-newshour-olympic-poetry.html
[15:58] <Pharos> mareklug: exactly
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[16:00] <Sven_Manguard> Pharos: do you know how to send an entire email chain instead of just the latest email when using gmail?
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[16:01] <Pharos> replied in #wikimedia-us
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[16:02] <Tony_Sidaway> What is #Wikipedia-us?
[16:02] <Tony_Sidaway> Ooh I see, media.
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[16:02] <Pharos> yes
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[16:02] <Tony_Sidaway> Misread that.
[16:03] <Tony_Sidaway> I thought for a moment there had been another one of those colonial rebellions!
[16:07] <Pharos> heaven forfend
[16:07] <BobTheWikipedian> is that a word?
[16:08] <Pharos> i choose to believe so
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[16:09] <Pharos> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/forfend
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[16:09] <BobTheWikipedian> ˈfɔːˌfɛnd
[16:10] <BobTheWikipedian> the r is silent :o
[16:10] <mysterytrey> Do you roll the silent r?
[16:10] <BobTheWikipedian> lol
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[16:11] <BobTheWikipedian> "This word is dated and becoming obsolete. Mostly used now in set expressions such as heaven forfend."
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[16:12] <mysterytrey> What does WMDE stand for?
[16:12] <BobTheWikipedian> wm germany
[16:12] <BobTheWikipedian> de = deutschland
[16:13] <BobTheWikipedian> wm = wikimedia
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[16:13] <mysterytrey> Ah.
[16:14] <mysterytrey> Interesting article feedback.  Worth a ponder: "Wikipedia tends to have technical bias, which understandably occurs considering that only those who are technically inclined can edit it. The term "Arduino" for example, should lead to the disambiguation page for the name, not the technical project given that name."
[16:14] <Pharos> what does WMAQ stand for?
[16:15] <BobTheWikipedian> wikimedia aq
[16:15] <mysterytrey> Antartica?
[16:16] <BobTheWikipedian> Wikimedia Antarctique
[16:16] <Pharos> we incorporate at dawn!
[16:16] <BobTheWikipedian> lol
[16:16] <mysterytrey> What does WMBBQ stand for?
[16:16] <BobTheWikipedian> this year, pharos?
[16:18] <BobTheWikipedian> trey...Wikimedia Barbecue
[16:18] <mysterytrey> No rly?
[16:18] <BobTheWikipedian> :D
[16:19] <BobTheWikipedian> actually, WMAQ is an AM radio station
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[16:20] <BobTheWikipedian> it stands for We Must Ask Questions
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[16:21] <mysterytrey> btw:And your telling us this why?
[16:23] <BobTheWikipedian> perhaps the same reason you asked what wmbbq stands for
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[16:24] <Pharos> WALRUS in 1.5 ours
[16:25] <mysterytrey> Interesting article feedback: "dildos were used to kill nazi"
[16:25] <BobTheWikipedian> i once used a forum where "nazi" was a forbidden word
[16:26] <BobTheWikipedian> so was "stalin"
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[16:27] <mysterytrey> Does wikipedia suck gumdrops? "190.83.132.75 posted feedback to Wikipedia2 weeks ago | Details
[16:27] <mysterytrey> no I forgot to tell you it also sucks gumdrops"
[16:27] <Pharos> i used one where "ron paul" was forbidden
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[16:28] <BobTheWikipedian> well we ended up finding a long list of words that were forbidden, and the history club at the forum had a big bone to pick about that
[16:28] <mysterytrey> I used one where profanities were forbidden.
[16:28] <BobTheWikipedian> so i led them in a petition to have the words unblocked
[16:28] <BobTheWikipedian> and it was successful :D
[16:28] <Pharos> actually, it was automatically changed to "Ron Lawl" :P
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[16:29] <Pharos> which is kind of hilarious
[16:29] <mysterytrey> I used one where it turned mysql to crap.  Honest to god.
[16:29] <BobTheWikipedian> lol
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[16:29] <BobTheWikipedian> legend has it yahoo used to automatically delete "allah" from emails
[16:30] <BobTheWikipedian> until a certain miss callahan complained
[16:30] <Pharos> is even yahooo that stupid?
[16:30] <BobTheWikipedian> apparently they once were
[16:31] <Soapy> Miss Can
[16:31] <mysterytrey> This is very random: 216.73.77.224 posted feedback to Oxygen4 months ago | Details
[16:31] <mysterytrey> "must be made by mexicans"
[16:31] <BobTheWikipedian> yeah she thought it was people being rude until she realized what was going on
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[16:33] <Sven_Manguard> BobTheWikipedian is correct. Yahoo used to also remove words such as "java", replacing them with things like "mocha", because they feared people would use email to send malware
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[16:33] <BobTheWikipedian> also, this story regarding once-banned usernames on yahoo: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/22/yahoo_unbans_allah/
[16:33] <mysterytrey> mochascript didn't raisee any eyebrows?
[16:34] <Sven_Manguard> mysterytrey: it did
[16:34] <Sven_Manguard> people got pissed
[16:34] <Sven_Manguard> In other news, no one uses Yahoo mail anymore and the company is now generally associated with a bygone era, if people are that nice to it
[16:34] <BobTheWikipedian> :o i use yahoo mail
[16:35] <BobTheWikipedian> and yahoo chat
[16:35] <Sven_Manguard> BobTheWikipedian: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medireview
[16:35] <mysterytrey> ...
[16:35] <BobTheWikipedian> and yahoo search, and yahoo news, and flickr
[16:36] <mysterytrey> BobTheWikipedian: That explains why you're still using IRC.
[16:36] <Sven_Manguard> God dammit! Does anyone know how to make firefox not cut out the http://www. part of web addresses?
[16:36] <mysterytrey> Not that I'm not.
[16:36] <BobTheWikipedian> lol sven
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[16:36] <mysterytrey> https ?
[16:36] <BobTheWikipedian> and i dunno :/
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[16:36] <Tony_Sidaway> Doesn't Yahoo have an unfortunate bug that permits people to discover your screen names?
[16:37] <BobTheWikipedian> sven if you figure it out, let me know
[16:37] <BobTheWikipedian> that's skype, tony
[16:37] <BobTheWikipedian> and they consider it a feature
[16:38] <Tony_Sidaway> I had to stop using socksniffer@yahoo.com
[16:39] <Sven_Manguard> BobTheWikipedian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem
[16:39] <russavia> i hope you didn't stop sniffing socks though as a result
[16:39] <BobTheWikipedian> sven that happened to me when i registered at jp.wikipedia.org
[16:39] <BobTheWikipedian> "bob" is blacklisted
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[16:39] <Sven_Manguard> ???
[16:39] <Sven_Manguard> why
[16:40] <BobTheWikipedian> however, unified login overrode it
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[16:41] <russavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%E1%83%9A(%E0%B2%A0%E7%9B%8A%E0%B2%A0%E1%83%9A)  i had to snag this username ages ago
[16:41] <BobTheWikipedian> :o pharos foks the only walronym with W and UK in it is WAUK, which isn't an animal
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[16:41] <BobTheWikipedian> lol russavia
[16:42] <mysterytrey> You can unrequest oversight on feeback :o
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[16:43] <BobTheWikipedian> and thus, the walruk is born :)
[16:43] <Tony_Sidaway> russavia well it stopped being fun when everybody found out.
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[16:44] <mysterytrey> 146.129.250.194 posted feedback to Wikipedia8 months ago | Details
[16:44] <mysterytrey> everything sucks, wikipedia is stupid, and im better than you... im trolling your sorry butt.
[16:44] <Tony_Sidaway> Than goodness nobody found out I'm a secret Thatcherite.
[16:46] <Soapy> anyone here from finland?
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[16:46] <Soapy> hi fast
[16:47] <Fasttimes68> hi soap
[16:47] <mysterytrey> 69.171.163.75 posted a comment.7 months ago
[16:47] <mysterytrey> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DID NOT FIND WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR YOU DUMMIES I ASKED (WHY IS GLOBAL WAMRING NOT HAPPENING??) OK UGH I WILL NEVER HELP IMPROVE THIS ARTICLE BECAUSE ITS A PIECEOF CRAP STUPID ARTICLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[16:48] <RD> cool.
[16:48] <Soapy> average
[16:48] <mysterytrey> warm
�06[16:48] * RD finds this comment helpful
[16:48] <RD> +1
[16:48] <RD> Like.
[16:48] <TeeTylerToe> An article is going to go without exclamation marks?  How sad.
[16:48] <mysterytrey> RD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ArticleFeedbackv5/Global_warming/2088
[16:49] <Fasttimes68> good article
[16:49] <Fasttimes68> i like the smiley face
[16:50] <Soapy> global wamring
[16:50] <Fasttimes68> i like global warming
[16:50] <mysterytrey> global heating
[16:50] <mysterytrey> pseudo-global cooling
[16:50] <Fasttimes68> im a coneseuir
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[16:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm?
[16:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Global warming is lame
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[16:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> This is the year of Global Defense Inititive
[16:53] <russavia> soapy, given that its the middle of the night, i am guessing all available finns would be out stabbing people in the forest at the moment
[16:53] <russavia> perkele!
[16:53] <Tony_Sidaway> Wonderful. That guy asked why global warming isn't happening and he's upset to be informed that it is.
[16:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> russavia finns dont have a darnk brotherhood office
[16:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway to be fair global warming is a controversial term
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[16:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> whats happening is climate change
[16:54] <RD> lol
[16:54] <Tony_Sidaway> Different name, same phenomenon.
[16:54] <RD>  Yes.  The 4th season.
[16:54] <TeeTylerToe> Isn't it happening at 100 times the pace of regular climate change?
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[16:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> true but one is wrong
[16:54] <RD> Fall, Winter, Spring, Global Warming
[16:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> climate change does not result in global warming everywhere
[16:54] <Soapy> russavia: eh i found a Finnish speaking Finn in Finland on another channel : )
[16:55] <Soapy> optimism pays off
[16:55] <BobTheWikipedian> hmmm. anyone have adobe acrobat?
[16:55] <Tony_Sidaway> I won't argue about it. Our article is pretty definitive.
[16:55] <RD> Does anybody not have adobe acrobat? :P
[16:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tempratures in some places actually decreases due to the phenomenom
[16:55] <BobTheWikipedian> i only have adobe reader
[16:55] <russavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_by_perkele  lol
[16:55] <RD> Oh, right
[16:55] <RD> :)
[16:55] <Soapy> i had Adobe Acrobat once
[16:55] <Soapy> the real thing
[16:55] <BobTheWikipedian> i need a document converted from a pdf :P
[16:55] <Soapy> I got it legally either for free or really cheap through my school
�06[16:56] * RD just likes Word's ability to save as PDF
[16:56] <Soapy> It's gone now though. And probably wouldnt run on Windows 7 anyway
[16:56] <Soapy> I dont think even Acrobat can convert *from* a pdg
[16:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway sure, I only interfered because some dickheads use out of season snowing as evidence that global warming is false
[16:56] <Soapy> at least not the version I had had
[16:56] <RD> BobTheWikipedian: MS Word does it
[16:56] <Soapy> Photoshop maybe could
[16:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> RD sure it can
[16:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> download primo pdf
[16:56] <RD> What is the document currently?
[16:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> and print to it
[16:56] <RD> Not even that
[16:56] <BobTheWikipedian> pdf to doc?
[16:56] <RD> It has a built in feature
[16:56] <Fasttimes68> ToAruShiroiNeko: not their fault someone gave anthropogentic climate change a bad name
[16:56] <Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: please just read the global warming article, which defines the term.
[16:56] <BobTheWikipedian> word goes doc to pdf
[16:57] <RD> Oh, *from* .. I missed that.
[16:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway I have no problem with it
[16:57] <BobTheWikipedian> not reverse
[16:57] <RD> My old scanner had software to do that.
[16:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> "Climate change" is the PC term, thats all I am saying
[16:57] <Soapy> adobe Photoshop can take pdf's as input a
[16:57] <RD> Not helpful. Sorry.
[16:57] <Soapy> *and output to various other formats that are image based
[16:57] <Soapy> what were you trying to convert it to?
[16:57] <Soapy> .doc ?
[16:57] <Soapy> a business card reading program might help
[16:57] <BobTheWikipedian> anything that i can insert into a word document
[16:57] <Soapy> yeah
[16:57] <BobTheWikipedian> i suppose i'll do a print screen
[16:58] <Soapy> you can insert images
[16:58] <Soapy> print screen will work but itll be pixelated
[16:58] <Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: you say you have no problem, but you argue from a fundamental misconception about what global warming means, and that is cleared up in the first sentence.
[16:58] <Soapy> i wouldnt even say "climate change" is more politically correct
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[16:59] <RD> Are we gong to have a global warming discussion in here?
[16:59] <Tony_Sidaway> No.
[16:59] <Soapy> yes!
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[16:59] <Tony_Sidaway> That's my last word.
[16:59] <Soapy> can we debate abortion instead then?
[16:59] <Soapy> nothing brings people together like abortion debates
[17:00] <Fasttimes68> i like sauteeing the fetus
[17:00] <Tony_Sidaway> I would expect we're all on the same side of that one, at least.
[17:00] <Fasttimes68> i dunno, do you prefer olive oil or butter?
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[17:01] <Tony_Sidaway> It's been a long time since abortion was really controversial outside religious circles.
[17:01] <mysterytrey> Interesting name for an album. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Santa%27s_Left_Eyeballsack&redirect=no&rcid=521700105
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[17:01] <Pharos> depwnds on the country
[17:02] <Tony_Sidaway> Well I'm in London.
[17:02] <Fasttimes68> im in favor of later term abortion
[17:02] <Fasttimes68> up to 215 months
[17:02] <Pharos> this seems excessive
[17:03] <Fasttimes68> at least the kid will mind his p
[17:03] <Fasttimes68> p's and q's
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[17:04] <TeeTylerToe> I lost a friend over an argument over whether the federal government funded abortion, and in what exact cases the federal government has over time
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[17:04] <Fasttimes68> must not have been good friends
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[17:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> TeeTylerToe so you aborted your friendship?
[17:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> was it federal gov funded?
[17:05] <TeeTylerToe> No, it was just a fanatical belief
[17:05] <TeeTylerToe> medicare covers it in cases of incest rape, and a few other cases, and it changes over time
[17:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mmm
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[17:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Why would people care about what the federal government pays
[17:06] <TeeTylerToe> because they don't want their tax dollars to go to abortion
[17:06] <RD> Lets talk about http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/08/romney-vice-president-wikipedia-portman-pawlenty/1#.UCL2VqNGajw in the meeting :P
[17:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you can tell them their tax money is exclusively used on bombs
[17:07] <RD> s/meeting/room
[17:07] <Soapy> ok
[17:07] <RD> lol
[17:07] <Soapy> Wikipedia has locked the pages of several Republicans being mentioned as possible running mates for Mitt Romney, perhaps as a response to some shenanigans from Stephen Colbert.
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[17:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> umm
[17:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I object
[17:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the entire site should be protected
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[17:08] <RD> With armed guards.
[17:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I suspect Patrick Steward could be a candidate for romney
[17:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Who would hire guards without arms?
[17:08] <RD> ED.
[17:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its as irrational as guards without legs
[17:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> guards without legs or arms = shield
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[17:09] <Soapy> Pawlenty's the only one whose article got full protected
[17:09] <Soapy> maybe we got a leak that he's the actual nominee?
[17:10] <Soapy> id vote for pawlenty
[17:10] <TeeTylerToe> at first there were no exemptions For a brief period of time, coverage included cases of rape, incest, life endangerment, and physical health damage to the woman. However, beginning in 1979, the physical health exception was excluded, and in 1981 rape and incest exceptions were also excluded.
[17:10] <TeeTylerToe> In September 1993, Congress rewrote the provision to include Medicaid funding for abortions in cases where the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest. The present version of the Hyde Amendment requires coverage of abortion in cases of rape, incest, and life endangerment.
[17:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I think US politics and Egypt politics have something in common
[17:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> both is over women
[17:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> in part
[17:11] <Soapy> eh??
[17:12] <Soapy> egypt was nice a few thousand years ago
[17:12] <Pharos> egypt is nicer now than it was then
[17:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> lies
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[17:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> back then it was under british rule
[17:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> whats better than being ruled by the british
[17:14] <TeeTylerToe> in heaven the cops are british the lovers italian, the chefs french, the mechanics german and it's all run by the swiss
[17:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> TeeTylerToe ya
[17:15] <TeeTylerToe> in hell the cops are german the lovers swiss the chefs british, the mechanics french and it's all run by the italians
[17:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but italians are efficient
[17:15] <Tony_Sidaway> We've still got their Rosetta Stone and an incredibly large number of looted "archeological artefacts"
[17:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway not really impressed
[17:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> americans have shipped an entire pyramid
[17:16] <Tony_Sidaway> Mummies, tomb decorations, all sorts.
[17:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway queen mum mummy <3
[17:16] <WilliamH_UK> brits do excellent food
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[17:17] <WilliamH_UK> many times I have hosted European friends round my house and it's an in-joke that they go back to their home country fatter because our food is great :P
[17:17] <Tony_Sidaway> The only edible British food is Yorkshire Pudding and sadly you can't live on that.
[17:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway is that a challenge? :3
[17:17] <WilliamH_UK> yorkshire puddings are fab
[17:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Britons got talent: yorkshire pudding challenge
[17:18] <WilliamH_UK> but i'd prefer the whole roast beef ;)
[17:19] <Tony_Sidaway> The French actually call us "rosbifs" because of our awful cuisine.
[17:19] <WilliamH_UK> pfffft what do they know about food?
[17:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway to be fair the French have thyme
[17:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WilliamH_UK more than you think
[17:19] <WilliamH_UK> it was sarcasm :P
[17:19] <Tony_Sidaway> Ooh and English cheese is excellent.
[17:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I know
[17:20] <Soapy> all good food comes from the tropics
[17:21] <Soapy> everyone agrees with me
[17:21] <Tony_Sidaway> And English pancakes, which are rather like French crepes.
[17:22] <WilliamH_UK> Bakewell tart.
[17:22] <WilliamH_UK> mmmmmmmmm
[17:22] <WilliamH_UK> fish and chips
[17:22] <Tony_Sidaway> Apart from that, all English food is unremittingly dull and stodgy.
[17:22] <WilliamH_UK> it can be
[17:22] <WilliamH_UK> it definitely has the potential for it
[17:23] <WilliamH_UK> if you think about dishes like shephard's pie, etc, etc
[17:23] <WilliamH_UK> that's not my favourite thing, I prefer not to have my food slurried together like that
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[17:23] <Tony_Sidaway> We eat foreign food. The traditional stuff, we serve to tourists as a cynical joke.
[17:23] <Soapy> lol
[17:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway to be fair, there was this british cookie I ate
[17:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it was with butter or something
[17:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> from one of her magesties companies
[17:24] <WilliamH_UK> Tony_Sidaway +1
[17:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it elevated me to heaven
[17:24] <WilliamH_UK> ToAruShiroiNeko like a butter biscuit then?
[17:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway in one sense its not foreign food
[17:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> just former biritsh colony food
[17:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WilliamH_UK yes
[17:24] <WilliamH_UK> excellent
[17:24] <Tony_Sidaway> Yes, we do Brilliant biscuits. Comparable to the best German ones.
[17:25] <WilliamH_UK> was it shortbread?
[17:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> probably
[17:25] <WilliamH_UK> SCONES!
[17:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it was in a container
[17:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> cylindirical
[17:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> metal
[17:25] <WilliamH_UK> I believe after 5 years of supplying the royal household, a retailer or service provider may apply for a Royal Warrant
[17:25] <Tony_Sidaway> Yeah, but apart from the Yorkshire Pudding, the cheese, the biscuits, etc
[17:25] <Tony_Sidaway> All British food is awful.
[17:26] <WilliamH_UK> e.g. Swan matches
[17:26] <Tony_Sidaway> Inedible
[17:26] <Tony_Sidaway> Totally inedible
[17:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway fish and chips is awesome
[17:26] <WilliamH_UK> "By appoint to Her Majesty Elizabeth II, makes of fine matches."
[17:26] <WilliamH_UK> yes, it actually says that on a box of matches
[17:26] <WilliamH_UK> in all fairness: they are excellent matches, they never fail
[17:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WilliamH_UK not true
[17:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they fail in space
[17:27] <Tony_Sidaway> You tasted a match?
[17:27] <WilliamH_UK> ToAruShiroiNeko i'll grant you that
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[17:29] <mysterytrey> It took eir 2 lines? Lotta vandalism.
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[17:29] <Tony_Sidaway> The whole By Appointment thing has always puzzled me. Can a maker of sex toys apply for that?
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[17:30] <Tony_Sidaway> Mostly it's alcohol and biscuits and stuff.
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[17:30] <WilliamH_UK> right guys
[17:30] <WilliamH_UK> I'm looking for
[17:30] <WilliamH_UK> a 3.5 inch IDE disk cradle
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[17:31] <WilliamH_UK> if such a one exists, i'd like it to run off USB power, and not an adaptor
[17:31] <Tony_Sidaway> Maybe they're all biscuit-munching, alcoholic, pyromaniac sex haters.
[17:33] <Tony_Sidaway> WilliamH_UK I have a cable for that. For 2.5" it runs on USB. For 3.5" it has a separate power supply.
[17:33] <WilliamH_UK> bugger. I'm looking for a 3.5 inch one without a separate power supply, if such a thing exists, and I have the feeling it doesn't, unless Google can prove otherwise
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[17:33] <Tony_Sidaway> Handy for data recovery.
[17:34] <Tony_Sidaway> I suspect the power requirements are too big for USB.
[17:34] <WilliamH_UK> mmm I suspect so too
[17:34] <The_Thing> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120808/11554019966/video-dotcom-raid-revealed-as-nz-police-admit-it-was-over-top.shtml#comments
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[17:36] <mysterytrey> USB + maker of sex toys = USB sex toy
[17:37] <mysterytrey> Oh I love combining topics.
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[17:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mysterytrey now now
[17:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> a USB sex toy aquarium
[17:38] <mysterytrey> 20:28 <WilliamH_UK> if such a one exists, i'd like it to run off USB power, and not an adaptor+ 20:26 <Tony_Sidaway> The whole By Appointment thing has always puzzled me. Can a maker of sex toys apply for that?
[17:38] <mysterytrey> =
[17:38] <mysterytrey> USB sex toy
[17:38] <WilliamH_UK> haha oh wow
[17:38] <WilliamH_UK> 2 contexts combined
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[17:40] <mysterytrey> 16:51 <kaldari> and typewriters! + 20:28 <WilliamH_UK> if such a one exists, i'd like it to run off USB power, and not an adaptor+ 20:26 <Tony_Sidaway> The whole By Appointment thing has always puzzled me. Can a maker of sex toys apply for that? = USB typewriter dildo
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[17:40] <The_Thing> WilliamH_UK: 3.5 inch disks draw too much power to be used on USB alone, they require an adapter no matter what.
[17:40] <WilliamH_UK> balls
[17:40] <WilliamH_UK> thought so
[17:40] <The_Thing> 2.5 inch disks are a different story, of course :)
[17:41] <WilliamH_UK> the power adaptor for my current one has failed and it's cheaper to get a new cradle than buy that adaptor again
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[17:41] <WilliamH_UK> yes quite, i have one, salvaged from my old laptop
[17:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway hmm
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[17:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> if a dildo connects to the internet, does that count as porn?
[17:41] <mysterytrey> No.
[17:42] <mysterytrey> Wait.
[17:42] <The_Thing> Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIIpExVf-5I
[17:42] <mysterytrey> Does php count as a dildo?
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[17:43] <russavia> http://en.rian.ru/strange/20120809/175082295.html -- so the greeks can fix illegal immigration but not their own economy?
[17:44] <Pharos> if by fixing illegal immigration you mean beating up foreigners who actually work
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�06[17:45] * Isarra travels to a foreign country and puts him to work.
[17:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos thats a type of fixing
[17:45] <Pharos> ohnoees\
[17:46] <Pharos> what foreign country?
[17:46] <Pharos> do they have universal healthcare?
[17:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> probably japan
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[17:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you are now a hentai beta tester
[17:47] <mysterytrey> ...
[17:47] <WilliamH_UK> what's funnier than british TV is ripping the piss out of it
[17:47] <WilliamH_UK> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdrfd81PeeM
[17:47] <WilliamH_UK> harry hill, you are a very funny man
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[17:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> russavia btw
[17:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the said river is at the border
[17:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it is inaccessable by either side
[17:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> as in by civilians
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�06[17:51] * ToAruShiroiNeko thinks a better strategy is building draw bridges
[17:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> and dragons
[17:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BTW http://static.lolyard.com/lol/yankee-go-home-mars.jpg
[17:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> US is protested at mars
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[17:53] <WilliamH_UK> ToAruShiroiNeko here's an amazing view of the Milky Way from Mars: http://twitpic.com/ag3vbn
[17:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WilliamH_UK WOW
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[17:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> do you have infrared view?
[17:56] <BobTheWikipedian> wow. my resume is SO not "copy-and-paste-into-notepad"-friendly
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[17:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> as in you dont have anything to copy?
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[17:58] <Sven_Manguard> *Ladies and Gentlemen: In case Pharos hasn't pestered you all enough, a WALRUS meeting is happening in five minutes in #wikimedia-us (with an "m", not a "p")*
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[18:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/08/sport/olympics-village-sex-party-athletes/index.html?hpt=hp_c3
[18:00] <Sven_Manguard>  Walrus meeting is in three minutes. Oh yeah, we're bringing out the colored text for this one.
[18:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WOHA
[18:00] <WilliamH_UK> yeah
[18:00] <WilliamH_UK> sex olympics
[18:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> No
[18:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it wont be a village soon
[18:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it will become a city
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[18:04] <Sven_Manguard> Ladies and gentlemen. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALURTIME!!!1!
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[18:05] <Tony_Sidaway>  I used to like it when Harry Hill did stand-up. I try watching his recent stuff but it's difficult to get excited at a guy taking the piss out of really bad soap operas I haven't ever watched.
[18:05] <Tony_Sidaway> To get the jokes I would actually have to watch the trash.
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[18:10] <Soapy> good luck with the job hunt Bob
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[18:10] <SigmaWP> BobTheWikipedian: Is WP on your resume?
[18:11] <Soapy> Im going to be looking for a new job myself
[18:11] <BobTheWikipedian> yup
[18:11] <BobTheWikipedian> and thanks
[18:11] <SigmaWP> Yay
[18:11] <BobTheWikipedian> sigmawp didn't you see my userpage?
[18:11] <SigmaWP> No
[18:11] <Soapy> I thought about putting on my resume that i was an administrator but I think most people dont really understand how Wikipedia works
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[18:11] <BobTheWikipedian> [[User:Bob the Wikipedian]]
[18:11] <BobTheWikipedian> check my userboxes :D
[18:11] <Soapy> that photo is from the Mars Attacks! movie I think
[18:12] <SigmaWP> Ah
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[18:12] <SigmaWP> Why do republicans use the elephant
[18:12] <BobTheWikipedian> it's the grand old party
[18:12] <Soapy> Bob can I ask what does it say on the resume?
[18:12] <Soapy> is it just a one-line thing
[18:13] <Soapy> "Wikipedia administrator"
[18:13] <BobTheWikipedian> thomas nash depicted republicans as an elephant in a cartoon
[18:13] <SigmaWP> Oh
[18:13] <Soapy> or have you found room for more detailed info
[18:13] <BobTheWikipedian> not quite soapy...
[18:13] <SigmaWP> That's a retarded reason :P
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[18:14] <BobTheWikipedian> pm'd you a giant block of text soapy
[18:14] <SigmaWP> Soapy: PM that to me too
[18:14] <WilliamH_UK> If you're a voluntary wiki admin, I think it's a good thing to put on your CV, or if not, at least mention it in an interview
[18:14] <WilliamH_UK> if you're trusted enough not to screw up the 5th most seen web page on earth, that's pretty neat
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[18:17] <Soapy> we're 5th now?
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[18:17] <Soapy> I remember when we were promoting the fact that we were 7th, just a couple years ago. Which websites did we gain over, I wonder?
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[18:18] <BobTheWikipedian> 6th, according to alexa
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[18:19] <SigmaWP> Screw alexa, we're fifth :D
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[18:20] <BobTheWikipedian> http://www.alexa.com/topsites
[18:20] <BobTheWikipedian> baidu.com beats wikipedia
[18:20] <SigmaWP> BobTheWikipedian: If you wrote cluebot NG would you put that on the resume?
[18:20] <BobTheWikipedian> indeed!
[18:20] <Soapy> 6th now
[18:21] <SigmaWP> How?
[18:21] <kim_bruning> Ok, so I'm not going to say *anything*, but could someone review the edits of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Viewmont_Viking  and tell me if you think they're on the up-and-up?
[18:21] <SigmaWP> "Wikipedia vandalism detection bot operator"
[18:21] <SigmaWP> thing
[18:21] <Soapy> i wonder if Twitter used to be higher
[18:21] <kim_bruning> (while we're at it, checking other recent editors at [[Rob Portman]] might be interesting
[18:21] <kim_bruning> )
[18:21] <Soapy> but that they slipped because people dont use http://twitter.com/ specifically very often
[18:21] <BobTheWikipedian> twitter has never overtaken wikipedia
[18:22] <kim_bruning> Ok, I did my thing :-P
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[18:25] <kim_bruning> actually, you know what, I'm going to post an RFCU
[18:25] <SigmaWP> Oh no
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[18:25] <kim_bruning> hmm, they can only really check for SPI?
[18:25] <kim_bruning> dang
[18:26] <kim_bruning> I want to know if some folks are doing COI
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[18:27] <Soapy> hi ice
[18:27] <Icy_> 'lo
[18:28] <kim_bruning> Okay, so I guess the level of dudgeon for "Mitt Romney campaigners are scrubbing WP" is, "AN/I" :-P
[18:28] <kim_bruning> s/are scrubbing/are potentially scrubbing/g
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[18:29] <kim_bruning> You must notify any editor who is the subject of a discussion. You may use {{subst:ANI-notice}} to do so.
[18:29] <kim_bruning> well frack
[18:29] <kim_bruning> when did that start?
[18:29] <kim_bruning> :-/
[18:29] <kim_bruning> what if the user in question is innocent?
[18:29] <kim_bruning> hmph, not that that helps
[18:30] <kim_bruning> you know, threshold for reporting potential COI manipulation is really high?
[18:30] <Soapy> just transclude the ani notice in your sig
[18:30] <Soapy> that way every possibility is covered
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[18:31] <Soapy> ~~~Kim Bruning (by the way there may be an ANI discussion about you; might want to check just to be safe) 04:18, 9 August 2012
[18:31] <Isarra> WHEEEEE!
[18:31] <SigmaWP> Soapy: Genius.
�06[18:31] * Isarra runs around flailing.
�06[18:31] * Icy_ gets whacked by Isarra's flailing arms.
[18:32] <Isarra> Oops. Sorry.
[18:32] <Isarra> Unfortunately a notice in a signature about ani would probably be construed as canvasing soon as there ever is one.
[18:32] <Isarra> Such as the one about the ani notice in the signature.
[18:33] <kim_bruning> I wonder if User:There maybe be an ANI discussion about you.
[18:33] <kim_bruning> is taken
[18:34] <The_Thing> We have such a damn bad case of wasps at our house...
[18:34] <Soapy> where are the wasps?
[18:34] <Soapy> i killed 40 wasps in a day once
[18:35] <Soapy> got some people upset at me for it, too
[18:35] <The_Thing> The little bastards literally made a nest inside of a hole in the brick leading to a crack in our porch.
[18:35] <Soapy> well actually I think those were hornets
[18:35] <Icy_> O..O
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[18:35] <Soapy> are you going to try to kill them?
[18:35] <The_Thing> So, I sealed the crack shut, then waited for all the wasps to return to the nest... then sealed the hole shut with concrete.
[18:35] <Soapy> ah youve done it already
[18:36] <Soapy> you won
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�06[18:36] * Soapy high fives The_Thing. Dont let the animal rights activists find out though
[18:36] <The_Thing> And they're still coming back too, there's like 2 or 3 wasps trying to figure out how the hell to get back in the next.
[18:36] <The_Thing> Soapy: About wasps!? Seriously?
[18:36] <Soapy> yes
[18:37] <Soapy> I consider myself pretty soft-hearted but I cant really get upset over the killing of insects. But, some people definitely do
[18:37] <The_Thing> If someone told me that killing wasps is bad, I'd tell them to fuck off.
�06[18:37] * Icy_ hugs her spiders protectively. But they're not exactly insects.
[18:37] <Soapy> even though the lifespan of a wasp is just a few months at most anyway
[18:37] <The_Thing> They're mean little bastards
[18:38] <The_Thing> They even look mean... They even SOUND mean. And I've had at least 1 chase after me while I was walking by and sting me...
[18:38] <The_Thing> Detestable little bastards that I have no qualms about killing... and I normally don't kill flies.
[18:39] <The_Thing> Karma, er, stings them in the ass :p
[18:39] <Isarra> Can I get a username change to something incredibly stupid just to annoy people?
[18:39] <The_Thing> Isarra: This perhaps?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%E2%96%84%E2%96%84%E2%96%88%E2%96%80%E2%96%80_%E2%96%88%E2%96%AC%E2%96%88_%E2%96%88_%E2%96%80%E2%96%88%E2%96%80
[18:39] <kim_bruning> Okiday, ANI'ed my spidey^Wwikisense
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[18:39] <Isarra> Wrong kind of annoying.
[18:40] <Isarra> I was thinking more along the lines of what kim_bruning said.
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[18:40] <Soapy> isarra: if you dont ever want to run for admin, sure
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[18:40] <Isarra> Soapy: Have we talked?
[18:41] <Soapy> errr ... yes?
[18:41] <kim_bruning> Isarra, ?
[18:41] <Isarra> Really?
[18:41] <Soapy> not sure what you mean by that but OK
[18:41] <kim_bruning> maybe isarra is anti-rfa? :-P
[18:41] <Soapy> i was the one who warned you that that eggplant image would cause problems on an RfA. Because really, anything can
[18:41] <kim_bruning> or... <kinda lost>
[18:41] <Isarra> I guess I'm just surprised that you'd suggest doing something like that could possibly make my odds in an rfa any worse.
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[18:42] <Isarra> The eggplant is unrelated to the image.
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[18:42] <kim_bruning> dangit, I was trying to look for the big fat buddah for Isarra , but where did that user go?
[18:42] <Isarra> kim_bruning:  User:There may be be an ANI discussion about you.
[18:42] <Isarra> I love it.
[18:43] <BobTheWikipedian> and here goes my application to work at clorox...
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[18:44] <SigmaWP> BobTheWikipedian: See, without capitalism you wouldn't need to worry about this :D
[18:44] <BobTheWikipedian> lol
[18:44] <BobTheWikipedian> socialism in america won't work as long as freedom of religion is a right
[18:45] <kim_bruning> Isarra, eh?
[18:45] <kim_bruning> OH, right, yes :-)
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[18:45] <Isarra> Yes.
[18:45] <kim_bruning> definitely irritating
[18:46] <kim_bruning> or you could take a culture ship name
[18:46] <kim_bruning> though that might be equal parts awesome and irritating ;)
[18:46] <russavia> this is what is stopping socialism in the US -- http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chick-fil-A_record_sales_day_(Polandball).png
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[18:46] <russavia> and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chick-fil-A_record_sales_day_(Polandball)_number_2.png
[18:47] <kim_bruning> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_ship_names
[18:47] <Soapy> lol
[18:47] <Soapy> polandball comics about chick-fil-A
[18:47] <Isarra> kim_bruning: Culture ship?
[18:48] <russavia> i dare you to post them in the chick-fil-a article
[18:48] <russavia> i've added them to the cat on commons of course lol
[18:48] <Soapy> does chick-fil-A really have "burgers" though?
[18:48] <russavia> who cares :)
[18:48] <Soapy> just being pedantic
[18:49] <SigmaWP> Oppose gay marriage by not getting one.
[18:49] <SigmaWP> Simple as that.
[18:50] <BobTheWikipedian> soapy - no. chicken sandwiches
[18:50] <kim_bruning> russavia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%28void*%29
[18:51] <kim_bruning> Hmm, nice nick
[18:51] <kim_bruning> Isarra, I linked just before you asked that question ;-)
[18:51] <BobTheWikipedian> and i don't think they've made any statements to align themselves with the republican party. they've only announced that they support organizations that defend traditional marriage and do not support organizations who are against it
[18:51] <Soapy> hmm ... two huge hurricanes just hit the Phillippines
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[18:52] <BobTheWikipedian> saying why you choose to give or not give money to organizations is freedom of speech
[18:53] <Isarra> Ah, got lost in russavia's links.
[18:53] <SigmaWP> *args, **kwargs would be a better username
[18:54] <SigmaWP> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rm_-rf
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[18:55] <kim_bruning> **kwargs ? Python? <3
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[19:02] <kim_bruning> rm -rf is not registered yet? O:-)
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[19:11] <kim_bruning> later gaters
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[19:41] <ChrisGualtieri> How can I check unreferenced articles by catagory?
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[19:49] <ChrisGualtieri> No one?
[19:49] <Isarra> Magic.
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[19:51] <TeeTylerToe> create a web spider that checks for reference tags
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[19:51] <TeeTylerToe> or fake your death
[19:51] <TeeTylerToe> still working on a plan c
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[19:55] <ChrisGualtieri> Well TeeTylerToe I'm asking because I wonder if I should bring it up at the pump to deal with our massive backlogs
[19:55] <ChrisGualtieri> The current method is stupid
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[19:56] <TeeTylerToe> don't a lot of the templates automatically add the article to a category?
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[19:57] <ChrisGualtieri> Yeah, the problem is I want a template sorted by category that is not 'unrefenced by date'
[19:57] <ChrisGualtieri> I want 'unref by category'
[19:57] <TeeTylerToe> A bot could do that
[19:58] <ChrisGualtieri> And add it to WP:BACK?
[19:58] <TeeTylerToe> I suppose
[20:00] <SigmaWP> !oversight https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Post_a_message_directly_to_Betty_Little contained addresses and phone numbers
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[20:00] <Isarra> Thank you for linking that here.
[20:00] <Frood> you just sent that to nearly 200 people.
[20:00] <Isarra> We all needed this information.
[20:00] <Frood> you are an idiot
[20:01] <Nascar1996> o.0
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[20:01] <Isarra> No telling if any oversighters are even on, either.
[20:01] <Logan_> It's only visible to administrators.
[20:01] <Logan_> But yes, oversight requests should only be sent via PM or e-mail.
[20:01] <Frood> Logan_: there's a reason why not all admins have oversight...
[20:01] <Logan_> Because Gfoley4.
[20:01] <Frood> yeah, he's pretty stalkish
[20:02] <Logan_> I mean, he stalked me all the way to a museum.
[20:02] <Isarra> I dunno; there are some stalkier ones...
[20:02] <Isarra> Like this one guy, he knew my name.
[20:02] <Frood> yeah, i heard about that
[20:02] <Isarra> ...or did I tell him? I can't remember.
[20:02] <Frood> went all the way across the country to meet you there
[20:03] <Logan_> I know!
[20:03] <Isarra> Creepy.
[20:04] <Isarra> fiwp is scary.
[20:04] <Logan_> It's so...foreign.
[20:04] <Isarra> And full of foreigners!
[20:05] <Isarra> And even worse, finnish people!
�06[20:05] * Logan_ shudders.
[20:05] <Tony_Sidaway> Isn't Finland where the Nokia ringtone is classed as a munition?
[20:07] <Isarra> That wouldn't come as a surprise.
[20:07] <Isarra> Granted my source of information on the place isn't exactly unbiased either.
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[20:09] <Tony_Sidaway> Everything I know about Finland I learned from the Moomintroll books.
[20:10] <mareklug> and there it was written about ringtone as munition?
[20:10] <Tony_Sidaway> Finns are short and plump and cute, and they hibernate in winter.
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[20:12] <TeeTylerToe> Well, the Fins aren't the happiest of people.  The effect of a bad phonecall heralded by a ringtone could be amplified by their winter solitude
�06[20:13] * Fluff|away slaps SigmaWP with a very large trout
[20:15] <Fluff|away> there is an EMAIL ADDRESS
[20:15] <Fluff|away> Use it
[20:16] <Tony_Sidaway> Is it mangled?
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[20:16] <Fluff|away> vanishes, too
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[20:23] <Frood> jorm: http://www.wikipediaredefined.com <-- you should make this happen.
[20:23] <jorm> i'm going to kill you now.
[20:23] <Frood> Okay.
�06[20:23] * Isarra hands jorm a frying pan.
[20:24] <Frood> but why?
[20:25] <Isarra> Scratch that.
[20:25] <Isarra> I'll kill you myself.
[20:25] <Frood> if you insist
[20:25] <TeeTylerToe> that webpage is very ironic in that it doesn't take any of it's own suggestions on user interface
[20:26] <jorm> i'm just going to start pasting this everywhere: http://www.quora.com/Wikipedia/Wikipedia-What-does-the-Wikipedia-community-think-of-this-Wikipedia-Redefined-redesign-of-the-site/answer/Brandon-Harris-1?__snids__=50923403
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[20:27] <Tony_Sidaway> We did that last night.
[20:29] <Frood> jorm: but quora is down!
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[20:29] <Isarra> I need entertainment.
[20:29] <mindspillage> jorm: nice answer.
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�06[20:30] * Isarra makes Logan_ entertain herself.
[20:30] <Logan_> Frood, why do I have this reputation?
[20:30] <Frood> Logan_: what reputation?
[20:30] <Logan_> I AM NOT A CLOWN.
[20:31] <Frood> the one that you're a female?
[20:31] <jorm> danke, mindspillage.
[20:31] <Logan_> Frood: Well, you always say, "Entertain me." :P
[20:31] <jorm> it irritates me that, on a day when i expected to be talking about *our* redesign plans, i have to talk about that thing instead.
[20:31] <Frood> Oh.
[20:31] <Isarra> Sorr, I can't type.
[20:31] <Isarra> Sorry
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[20:32] <Isarra> So you're not a clown?
[20:33] <Logan_> I did not go to clown school, at least.
[20:34] <Frood> yes you did
[20:34] <Pharos> you're an unlicensed clown!
[20:34] <Pharos> someone call the union!
[20:34] <Isarra> Are you sure? It may have been mislabeled.
[20:34] <Frood> yes
[20:34] <Pharos> SCAB
[20:34] <Frood> fuck the police, they arrest the unlicensed clowns
�06[20:34] * Frood throws bricks at Peter-C 
[20:35] <Pharos> jorm, when is WMF going to unionize?
[20:35] <Brooke> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ArticleFeedbackv5/2012_Aurora_shooting
[20:35] <Brooke> Why doesn't the page just have a fucking trash button?
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[20:36] <Brooke> Just delete the stupid comments. They're easy to spot.
[20:36] <Isarra> We're not even supposed to hide them.
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[20:36] <Isarra> Apparently the frowny faces are useful.
[20:36] <Isarra> Or something.
[20:37] <Brooke> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ArticleFeedbackv5/RuneScape/234592
[20:37] <Brooke> Painfully helpful, this shit.
[20:37] <Isarra> The initial reaction is helpful!
[20:38] <jorm> unionize?
[20:38] <Brooke> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ArticleFeedbackv5/The_Motley_Fool/234579
[20:38] <ChrisGualtieri> HAHA
[20:38] <Pharos> FCWA
[20:38] <Brooke> "We're gonna host a bunch of useless comments from now on."
[20:38] <Pharos> Free Culture Workers of America
[20:38] <Brooke> Well, wonderful. That's just what we were missing!
[20:38] <Isarra> THE ARTICLE DIDN'T SHOW THEM WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR!
�06[20:38] * jorm keeps his mouth shut about AFT5.
[20:39] <Isarra> THIS IS IMPORTANT.
[20:39] <Tony_Sidaway> I thought the Wikimedia union was GNAA.
[20:39] <heatherw> lol
[20:39] <Brooke> "Have feedback?" should just link to the edit screen.
[20:39] <heatherw> that would not be confusing at all
[20:39] <Brooke> Heh.
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[20:40] <Brooke> There's a chance they might make the article better.
[20:40] <Brooke> With a feedback form, that chance is smaller.
[20:40] <Brooke> I suppose the opposite is also true: there's a much higher chance they'll just screw something up.
[20:40] <Isarra> Feedback can be useful for things they just didn't find or things they don't know how to fix, though.
[20:41] <Brooke> Feedback is a fairly generous term.
[20:41] <Brooke> Most of this is noise.
[20:41] <heatherw> i'm gonna need some… yeah :)
[20:41] <Brooke> Or garbage.
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[20:41] <heatherw> sometimes the illusion of listening is very effective
[20:41] <Isarra> Without the garbage it'd be useful, though.
[20:41] <Brooke> Isarra: Maybe.
[20:41] <Brooke> I'm not sure how helpful it is to know "there should be an image!"
[20:41] <Isarra> I'd maybe be willing to touch it if given the green light to kill garbage.
[20:41] <Tony_Sidaway> The Global Warming feedback comment somebody posted earlier was a hoot. Our chap was frustrated by our baffling insistence on presenting facts.
[20:42] <Brooke> Sometimes that isn't possible and no amount of feedback changes that...
[20:42] <Brooke> True as it may be.
[20:42] <Isarra> Feedback like that doesn't harm anything, though.
�06[20:42] * Peter-C licks Frood
[20:42] <Peter-C> Why did you pingeth me
[20:42] <Brooke> Isarra: Right, but I'm not seeing a great balance of value to cost.
[20:42] <Isarra> That's because it's all garbage!
[20:43] <Pharos> garbage can be recycled
[20:43] <Brooke> Right, expensive garbage.
[20:43] <Frood> Peter-C: i threw a brick at you
[20:43] <Frood> because fuck the police
[20:43] <Frood> #firstworldanarchists
�06[20:43] * Isarra wants to kill garbage.
[20:43] <Peter-C> I am not a cop :()
[20:43] <heatherw> garbage cannot be killed
[20:44] <Pharos> i don't think there's such a thing as #thirdworldanarchists
[20:44] <heatherw> it just changes state
[20:44] <Brooke> Isarra: The whole notion of creating an outlet where people can dump their noise only to then have editors spend time deleting it...
[20:44] <Pharos> they already have anarchy, and it ain't pretty
[20:44] <Brooke> Well, that's a bit silly.
[20:44] <Isarra> Okay, I want to put it in the garbage.
[20:44] <Frood> nick Froodsleep
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[20:44] <Isarra> Brooke: Oh, no, no. You misunderstand.
[20:44] <Brooke> A bit silly, I say.
[20:44] <Isarra> We're not supposed to delete it.
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[20:44] <Brooke> What if it's spam?
[20:44] <Pharos> we're supposed to hug it!
[20:44] <Brooke> Doesn't this awful thing get spammed?
[20:45] <Brooke> Some of the comments already read like spammer English.
[20:45] <Isarra> Of course! byt only stuff blatantly offensive is to be hidden.
[20:45] <Isarra> But
[20:45] <Brooke> Is spam offensive?
[20:45] <Isarra> Apparently not.
[20:45] <Brooke> Hmm.
[20:46] <Brooke> Well, we should start posting some, then.
[20:46] <Brooke> We'll get rich!
[20:46] <heatherw> offensive=completely subjective
[20:46] <Brooke> heatherw: The word "abuse" in the interface seems rather subjective to me.
[20:46] <Brooke> I flagged a few comments.
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[20:46] <Brooke> But I'm not sure what one has to do to the definition of abuse to make it apply.
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[20:46] <Brooke> Nasty things, I think.
[20:47] <Isarra> Indeed, this thing is very... clear.
[20:47] <Isarra> And sensible!
[20:47] <Brooke> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ArticleFeedbackv5/RuneScape/223304
[20:47] <Isarra> I'd never guess wikipedians were involved in it.
[20:47] <Brooke> Heh.
�06[20:47] * Brooke NP: "Slow Dancing In A Burning Room" by John Mayer from "Continuum"
[20:50] <Tony_Sidaway> I'm pretty convinced (and becoming more so) that the redesign proposal is wholly or partly satirical in intent. It's all rather too blatant.
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[20:50] <Isarra> If it were supposed to be satire, it'd be written better.
[20:50] <Pharos> these theoretical brand redesigns are a dime a dozen
[20:51] <Pharos> don't assume satire when cluelessness is sufficient
[20:51] <Isarra> Oh gods my poor wikipedia.
�06[20:51] * Isarra hugs it.
[20:51] <jorm> most of them like to ignore the whole "multilingual" thing because it's inconvenient.
[20:51] <Tgeairn> !admin Please PM
[20:51] <Pharos> Commons Category:Encyclopedia hugging
[20:52] <DeltaQuad> yes?
[20:52] <Pharos> it's like tree-hugging, but more sustainable
[20:52] <heatherw> they ignore all the hard problems. because hard problems are what?
[20:53] <heatherw> also, they don't know about most of them.
[20:53] <ChrisGualtieri> I'm ready to address many problems, but no one ever can make my solutions >.>
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[20:55] <ChrisGualtieri> I just posted a bit on pump about the unreferenced articles mess
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[21:29] <YE> are admins around?
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[21:31] <TeeTylerToe> this place is lousy with them, though I am not one.  What do you need?
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[21:32] <TeeTylerToe> if you see one ask you for food spray them with a spritzer
[21:32] <Isarra> I keep thinking wiktionary is wikipedia.
[21:32] <Isarra> Why do they use the same favicon?
[21:32] <Isarra> That's just cruel.
[21:35] <YE> a sandbox moved
[21:35] <Sven_Manguard> lol
[21:37] <TeeTylerToe> I think editors have some move privledges
[21:37] <TeeTylerToe> priviledges
[21:45] <Sven_Manguard> TeeTylerToe: only admins can move over redirects
[21:45] <Sven_Manguard> if there's no redirect, almost anyone can do it
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[21:46] <Sven_Manguard> last admin to speak in this channel is Pharos
[21:47] <SigmaWP> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/ronald-poppo-speaks-police-interview-tapes-face-eating_n_1758216.html
[21:47] <Isarra> He's an admin?
[21:47] <Isarra> Weird.
[21:47] <Isarra> We really have crazy admins.
[21:48] <haggis> Sven_Manguard: hey :-)
[21:48] <geniice> Isarra well that or RFA makes them crazy
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[21:48] <haggis> geniice: both.
[21:48] <haggis> they were crazy to begin with, RfA triggered it.
[21:49] <Isarra> Are wiktionarians any more agreeable than wikipedians?
[21:50] <geniice> no idea
[21:50] <geniice> how do people here test out new camera kit?
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[21:51] <Sven_Manguard> Isarra: "are _____ more agreeable than wikipedians?" Probably.
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[21:52] <Sven_Manguard> are the Jersey Shore cast more agreeable than wikipedians? Yes.
[21:52] <Sven_Manguard> are the mole people from the original Deus Ex game more agreeable than wikipedians? Yes.
[21:52] <Isarra> Are there any particularly good ways to get wikipedians to going along proposals with long-lasting impacts?
[21:52] <Isarra> Sven_Manguard: Are people on meta more agreeable than wikipedians?
[21:53] <SigmaWP> Admins are welcome to delete https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=22%20december%201999&rcid=521732573&redirect=no
�06[21:53] * SigmaWP hugs geniice 
[21:53] <Sven_Manguard> No. If you spend time on Meta you're a nutcase.
[21:53] <Sven_Manguard> But actually, yeah, probably IS
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[21:53] <Isarra> And people on commons?
[21:53] <Sven_Manguard> Definately.
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[21:53] <Sven_Manguard> Unless the issue is naked ladies
[21:53] <Sven_Manguard> or Jimbo
[21:53] <Isarra> There are issues there that don't involve naked people?
[21:54] <geniice> yes
[21:54] <geniice> copyright
[21:54] <Sven_Manguard> Yes. For example, Republicans.
[21:54] <Sven_Manguard> There was something in the news.
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[21:54] <NuclearWarfare> Republicans were in the news?
[21:54] <Isarra> Copyright of naked republicans.
[21:54] <Sven_Manguard> Oh, wait, you're talking Commons only.
[21:54] <NuclearWarfare> shocker, news at 11
[21:54] <Sven_Manguard> NuclearWarfare: The news picked up that we semi-protected the potential VP candidates due to vandalism
[21:55] <Sven_Manguard> oh, also Hi.
[21:55] <geniice> Isarra oh and this has been a bit messy http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Latuff
[21:55] <Sven_Manguard> Also YE is looking for an admin NuclearWarfare. He needs something moved over a redirect.
[21:55] <NuclearWarfare> Tell him to pm me
[21:55] <Sven_Manguard> YE: PM it to NuclearWarfare
[21:55] <Sven_Manguard> :D
[21:55] <Isarra> Weird.
[21:56] <Sven_Manguard> And on that note, I've got work in 7 hours. Goodnight!
[21:57] <Isarra> Dream well, silly.
[21:57] <Dagny> Any nadmins around?
[21:57] <Isarra> What's a nadmin?
[21:57] <Dagny> Like an admin but with more nads
[21:57] <Dagny> Anyway
[21:58] <Dagny> Aaaadmins...aaaadmins
�06[21:58] * Dagny tries to lure them out with bread crumbs
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[21:59] <NuclearWarfare> Dagny: Food!
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[21:59] <NuclearWarfare> what do you want
[21:59] <Isarra> Your spleen.
[21:59] <Dagny> NuclearWarfare: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ricardo_Salazar&action=history a nice little semi-prot on this
[21:59] <Isarra> Oh wait, that's me.
[22:00] <NuclearWarfare> done
[22:00] <Dagny> You're a darling
�06[22:00] * Dagny gives NuclearWarfare many cookies
[22:00] <Isarra> Now that she's done with you, can I have your spleen?
[22:01] <NuclearWarfare> Sorry, I already promised that to someone else
�06[22:01] * NuclearWarfare flees
[22:01] <NuclearWarfare> night all
[22:01] <TeeTylerToe> it's now nice and plump
[22:01] <Isarra> Oh.
[22:01] <Isarra> Okay.
[22:01] <Isarra> Dream well.
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[22:03] <geniice> for the record breadcrums don't work on most admins
[22:03] <geniice> try beer
[22:05] <Isarra> Man, I could have done a much better job on that walrus logo.
[22:05] <Isarra> Dammit.
[22:05] <Isarra> Think anyone would notice if I swapped it out for a new one?
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[22:09] <SigmaWP> geniice: Can you delete https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yvan%20Amuntung&rcid=521735581&redirect=no
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[22:09] <geniice> CAT CSD
[22:10] <geniice> look into it
[22:10] <SigmaWP> I wasn't sure if it should've been g3 or a7, but we should kill it quickly
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[22:19] <SigmaWP> OHOHOHO
[22:19] <SigmaWP> tiptoe
[22:19] <SigmaWP> TAHDSNknsdf
[22:20] <SigmaWP> NEW RFA
[22:20] <SigmaWP> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Request_for_adminship/Rolandhelper
[22:21] <Apheori> Are there CSD lolcats?
[22:21] <Apheori> Bahahah.
[22:21] <Apheori> How long to snowball?
[22:21] <Apheori> Wait...
[22:21] <Apheori> Enwp?
[22:21] <Apheori> Oh, yeah, he's banned here.
[22:22] <Apheori> Guy showed up on another wiki and my first instinct was to block and then I was like waaaait, what's me reasoning exactly?
[22:22] <Apheori> And then I found I couldn't log in and so that was the end of that.
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[22:24] <Apheori> We're all going to die.
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[22:30] <Peter-C> omgomgomgomg
[22:30] <Peter-C> The rapist is inside the house
�06[22:30] * Peter-C hugs himself tight and watches his TV some more in anticipation
�06[22:30] * Isarra approaches Peter-C with a bottle of lube.
�06[22:31] * Peter-C slaps Isarra away
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[22:32] <Peter-C> omg the rapist didn’t rape him
[22:32] <Peter-C> :3
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[22:33] <Daley> What a wonderful day!
�06[22:33] * Peter-C eats Daley’s family
[22:33] <Peter-C> How about now.
�06[22:34] * Daley has only his mother. He can now sell the house and move.
[22:34] <Peter-C> fuck.
�06[22:34] * Peter-C burns down the house
[22:34] <Daley> noooooooooooooooo
[22:34] <Peter-C> YES!
[22:34] <Daley> noooooooooooooooo!
[22:34] <geniice> Daley eh land has value
[22:35] <Daley> yeah about $160,000 :|
�06[22:35] * Peter-C tosses Daley down a flight of stairs
[22:36] <Daley> Peter-C: You have a choice of 1 step or 4 steps to toss me down. Which?
[22:36] <Peter-C> ALL OF THEM
[22:36] <Daley> thank god, to the people who built this house  about 130 years ago.
�06[22:38] * Daley burns Peter-C's bed.
[22:39] <Peter-C> No you didn’t.
[22:39] <Peter-C> Your in an icu :3
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[22:39] <Daley> Can't be any worse than the nut house icu.
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�06[22:43] * Daley imagines Peter-C is that weight lifter who dropped 196kg on his head/neck at the Olympics.
[22:44] <Peter-C> :o
[22:44] <haggis> Daley: lol
[22:44] <haggis> that was hilariou
[22:44] <haggis> s
[22:44] <Daley> You see it?
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[22:47] <Daley> I was watching the men's Steeplechase and before it started I said that I wanted to see someone run into one of them, the last runner basically did and I couldn't stop laughing. I like to take the fun side out of other people's "professional" sports into consideration.
[22:48] <Peter-C> http://www.handsonlycpr.org/handson/
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Session Start: Fri Aug 10 14:02:09 2012
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�03[14:02] * Now talking in #wikipedia-en
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�03[14:02] * Set by RD on Tue Aug 07 10:41:41
[14:02] #wikipedia-en url is https://en.wikipedia.org/
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[14:02] <Trenton> The part in Brooklyn in fine, but the skip-stop pattern on weekends sucks (at least, in Queens)
[14:02] <Trenton> [[Q (New York City Subway service)#Stations]]
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[14:03] <Trenton> I'm looking forward to the T
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[14:04] <harej> Boston raged.
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[14:05] <Trenton> I'm talking the 'T' as in the Second Avenue Subway
[14:05] <Trenton> [[Second Avenue Subway]]
[14:05] <Dcoetzee> It is done http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#A_new_featured_article_candidate_requirement:_expert_review_request
[14:06] <Dcoetzee> I'll see how it goes. It might be a little bit too radical. :-P
[14:06] <Trenton> Dcoetzee: So if I wanted to write about [[MissingNo.]], I'd have to contact an expert on [[MissingNo.]], eh?
[14:07] <Dcoetzee> I said in a relevant field :-)
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[14:07] <Dcoetzee> There are Pokemon experts out there!
[14:07] <Qcoder02> Hi Dcoetzee
[14:07] <harej> I know, Trenton. Boston still raged.
[14:08] <Trenton> .
[14:08] <Dcoetzee> Trenton: I did however add a line about pop culture to the proposal, thanks for reminding me. :-)
[14:09] <Trenton> MBTA Green Line = wtf
[14:09] <SigmaWP> Ugh
[14:09] <SigmaWP> I wish everyone used fcite
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[14:11] <SigmaWP> The Croatia article took around 20 seconds to load
[14:11] <Trenton> Two seconds here.
[14:11] <Trenton> I used to use AT&T dsl, it sucked.
[14:11] <SigmaWP> Fuck you and your 5-second Debian downloads :P
[14:12] <Trenton> :P
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[14:13] <Trenton> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed?mwe-pt-sort-oldest=pagetriage-oldest < [[Modular decomposition]] remains unreviewed
[14:13] <foks> Dcoetzee, I'm not sure there are any experts on XBLA games either ;)
[14:13] <Dcoetzee> foks: Sure there are. IGN reviewers for one :-)
[14:13] <Dcoetzee> Also the game's developers
[14:14] <Dcoetzee> I'd also consider Let's Play celebrities who are recognised as expert players as candidates.
[14:14] <Dcoetzee> e.g. Day[9] for Starcraft 2
[14:14] <Dcoetzee> Really anyone who's a pro level player in e-sports.
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[14:15] <SigmaWP> Oh damn
[14:16] <SigmaWP> Sergius Mamay, a paleobotanist who specialised in coal ball studies, died in 2008
[14:16] <Pharos> there's a pattern!
[14:16] <Pharos> only one man living has a motive...
[14:16] <Pharos> J'accuse!!!
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[14:20] <Qcoder02> Evening all
[14:21] <Peter-C> Grand theft auto is my middle name
[14:21] <mysterytrey> Evening q
[14:21] <Soapy> thats quite an unusual name
�06[14:22] * mysterytrey 's middle name is Cindy.
[14:22] <Trenton> Hello, Peter Grand Theft Auto C.
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[14:23] <Peter-C> Sup
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[14:23] <Peter-C> mysterytrey - My middle name is better
[14:23] <mysterytrey> My last name is Nyan.
[14:24] <Peter-C> >:O
�06[14:24] * Peter-C flips over a table
[14:24] <mysterytrey> You did a flip over a table, or you fliped a table over?
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[14:24] <Trenton> CBTC FOR THE 7 FLUSHING :D
[14:24] <Trenton> R188's, hurry up.
[14:25] <Qcoder02> Peter-C:   Can;t you steal an EMS waggon in one version of the GTA series?
[14:25] <Peter-C> mhm
[14:27] <mysterytrey> Does anybody know who AlertEye is?  The one in the channel?  They've been idling for 3 days, which, IMO, is odd.  Also, my last name isn't nyan.
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[14:28] <Dcoetzee> Gah somebody botching their EC merges
[14:28] <Dcoetzee> In my thread
[14:29] <harej> Heaven forbid.
[14:29] <mysterytrey> EC merges?  Your thread?  I am confused.
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[14:30] <mysterytrey> What is an ec merge & what is your thread?
[14:30] <Dcoetzee> Two people added comments and blew away previous comments.
[14:30] <Dcoetzee> And my changes to the lead.
[14:30] <Dcoetzee> Trying to fix no time to talk
[14:31] <Dcoetzee> Ugh and somebody else is trying to fix it at the same time
[14:31] <Dcoetzee> Edit conflicts suck
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[14:33] <mysterytrey> Has something been oversighted on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_%22Hank%22_Nelson ?   Because otherwise someone just created a page with a csd.
[14:34] <Trenton> looks like an ec to me
[14:34] <Trenton> *edit conflict
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[14:39] <Soapy> heh
[14:39] <Soapy> thats actually pretty common .. to see a new page with a deletion tag already on it
[14:39] <Soapy> it basically just means someone copy-pasted a page that was deleted earlier and didnt bother to remove teh deletion tag or didnt know how
[14:40] <Soapy> though this isnt a case of that
[14:40] <Soapy> it looks like someone just accidentally re-created the page
[14:40] <Soapy> it's gone now though
[14:40] <TeeTylerToe> or people try to find meaning in their lives by bringing up notability questions about any new article they don't know anything about
[14:41] <TeeTylerToe> forcing a pointless argument about what notability means
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[14:41] <TeeTylerToe> and whether or not an article for something that stopped production in the 1970s qualifies as advertisement
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[14:43] <Trenton> wtf...
[14:43] <Trenton> O_o
[14:43] <Trenton> the next time I meet derp, I want to strangle him\
[14:44] <foks> ?
[14:44] <TeeTylerToe> he derped one herp too many
[14:44] <TeeTylerToe> a herp too far
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[14:44] <WilliamH_UK> isn't that a james bond film?
[14:45] <WilliamH_UK> GoldenDerp
[14:45] <WilliamH_UK> Dr. Derp
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[14:45] <WilliamH_UK> haha
[14:45] <WilliamH_UK> oh wow
[14:45] <WilliamH_UK> Derp and Let Herp
[14:45] <Trenton> derp - zalgo, et
[14:45] <Trenton> c
[14:45] <WilliamH_UK> i know, I'm joking :P
[14:45] <Trenton> just discovered that he's been in contact with gnaa and sent them *lots* of irc logs
[14:45] <Trenton> :(
[14:46] <Dcoetzee> Well it looks like I came up with a proposal that is violently opposed to Wikipedia culture.
[14:46] <foks> oh, that's ooold news
[14:46] <WilliamH_UK> of which channel, this one?
[14:46] <WilliamH_UK> he did that ages ago
[14:46] <Dcoetzee> I'll have to keep that in mind for future reference.
[14:46] <Trenton> foks: ja, I know
[14:46] <TeeTylerToe> Somehow I think gnaa can get any logs it wants
[14:46] <WilliamH_UK> has he done it since?
[14:46] <foks> nobody even cares
[14:46] <TeeTylerToe> 200 out of the 199 people here are probably bots
[14:46] <Trenton> derp is one of my old irc-buddies
[14:46] <Trenton> well, not very 'old'
[14:47] <Trenton> given that we spoke less than a week ago
[14:47] <foks> yeah, mine too
[14:47] <foks> wasn't exactly thrilled when he did that
[14:47] <TeeTylerToe> the nick derp wasn't a giveaway?
[14:48] <Trenton> no, it was SerialSockpuppet
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[14:48] <Trenton> I just realized it, since I'd been reading (shhh!) gnaa irc logs out of curiosity, and the first names were always that alias
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[14:51] <WilliamH_UK> basically nothing of any interest in this chatroom happens anyway
[14:51] <TeeTylerToe> people are plenty caty here
[14:52] <Pharos> when they should be more walrusy
[14:52] <ChrisGualtieri> >.>?
[14:52] <TeeTylerToe> it would be so much simpler if we were all newts
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[14:53] <Pharos> walrus > newt > cat
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[14:54] <SoapX> gingrich has edited wikipedia
[14:54] <mysterytrey> Someone should kick everyone out of this channel.
[14:54] <Trenton> SoapX: ?
[14:54] <Trenton> gingrich?
[14:54] <TeeTylerToe> that sounds like a character from dune
[14:54] <TeeTylerToe> creature
[14:55] <Dcoetzee> Argh I'm getting increasingly frustrated with this kneejerk anti-elitism.
[14:55] <Qcoder02> ?
[14:55] <Pharos> so says THE MAN
[14:55] <TeeTylerToe> especially since the driving force behind it are ivy league graduate titans of industry
[14:55] <Pharos> stop putting us li'l folks down!
[14:56] <Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: My ill-considered proposal is running contrary to Wikipedia culture and facing a snow oppose :-P
[14:56] <Dcoetzee> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)&pe=1&#A_new_featured_article_candidate_requirement:_expert_review_request
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[14:56] <Pharos> wait, are you talking about dysfunctional politics or dysfunctional wikis?
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[14:57] <Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  Find me a credible subject expert on  Robot Fetishism ;)
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[14:57] <TeeTylerToe> it's easier than you'd expect
[14:57] <Qcoder02> There are some articles for which no "Expert" would exist
[14:57] <TeeTylerToe> anyone with a crush on ann coulter for instance
[14:57] <TeeTylerToe> zing!
[14:57] <Qcoder02> HUh?
[14:57] <Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: Allison de Fren?
�06[14:57] * Qcoder02 has to look her up
[14:58] <TeeTylerToe> does that proposal really solve a problem with the FA process?
[14:58] <Dcoetzee> She made a documentary short on ASFR.
[14:58] <Qcoder02> OH OK
[14:58] <Qcoder02> ;)
[14:58] <Qcoder02> How about an expert on 1940 Ford Sedans?
[14:58] <Qcoder02> ;)
[14:58] <Dcoetzee> TeeTylerToe: Not really, it's an improvement (to assist in further improving the article) rather than a reform.
[14:58] <Stove> Guys, in what channel do the recent changes appear?
[14:59] <TeeTylerToe> thereare millions of those
[14:59] <Dcoetzee> TeeTylerToe: Indeed. And some are worthwhile, while others are excessively burdensome.
[14:59] <SoapX> recent changes is too fast to be on IRC
[14:59] <Stove> <Krenair> irc.wikimedia.org #en.wikipedia
�06[14:59] * Qcoder02 wonders what is more worrying... that there are subject experts on robot fetish, or that Scoetzee knows how they are :)
[14:59] <SoapX> there is technically a channel
[14:59] <SoapX> yeah, that
[14:59] <Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: I looked up the article :-)
[14:59] <SoapX> but it's basically for bots
[15:00] <Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: If an article exists and has RSs, generally somebody wrote those who knows something about the area.
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[15:00] <ChrisGualtieri> Making it a requirement is different from suggesting the support >.> But some of the opposes seem weak
[15:00] <Qcoder02> OK OK How many credible expert do you know on the inner workings of the Church of Emacs ? :)
[15:00] <TeeTylerToe> is that an article that should be featured?
[15:01] <Stove> Wow, that's fast.
[15:01] <Qcoder02> it could be :)
[15:01] <Qcoder02> But in general 'subject experts' I've met don't work for free
[15:01] <ChrisGualtieri> Main page ones should at least be reviewed by someone knowledgable at all possible, FA guidelines are stricter than GA. Have we ever had a hoax get a GA?
[15:02] <Qcoder02> For 'reviewing' subject experts expect to get something...
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[15:02] <SoapX> an article about a hoax? Definitely
[15:02] <Qcoder02> It tends to be worse for some subject areas like engineering...
[15:02] <SoapX> an article that itself is a hoax? I hope not
[15:02] <Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: If they don't that's okay... it's still eligible for FA. I for one know many subject experts who would be happy to review a short article, recognising the importance of Wikipedia as a broadly available popular resource.
[15:02] <Dcoetzee> It's kind of the public face of their field.
[15:03] <Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  Well...
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[15:03] <Qcoder02> For law stuff, I'd probably treat some editors as being subject experts already
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[15:03] <Dcoetzee> However it's irrelevant as my proposal will not pass :-) Because people see the word "expert" and their brains turn off.
[15:03] <Qcoder02> I mean Ironholds  wrote a large number of the FA  English law articles
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[15:04] <Qcoder02> The are other users that probably know as much crypto as an NSA operative ;)
[15:04] <Dcoetzee> Yeah someone raised that point... I think in such a case it's still useful to request review by another law professional who didn't contribute to the article.
[15:04] <Dcoetzee> A second opinion.
[15:04] <Dcoetzee> Most professionals already have connections with other professionals, so why not?
[15:04] <Qcoder02> Well in areas like Law and Medcine a professional review  might be good practice anyway
[15:05] <Dcoetzee> They might just say "looks good" but that's still helpful.
[15:05] <Qcoder02> I mean no-one expects a notmal person to understand the complexties of the California State Narcotics Act ... ;)
[15:06] <Qcoder02> Even if they have head  Friday's expostions on it ;)
[15:06] <Qcoder02> *heard
[15:07] <Dcoetzee> I mean seriously, half the people responding did not even read my proposal. And it's like one paragraph.
[15:07] <Dcoetzee> It's like "expert" -> "oppose" :-/
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[15:08] <Dcoetzee> I think I'll have to find an entirely different tactic for encouraging more feedback from scholars :-P
[15:08] <Dcoetzee> Something more subversive.
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[15:09] <Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  On the subject of 'fetish' matters... Findiing some state level shrinks might be reasonable ;)
[15:10] <Dcoetzee> Heh that too, although I'm convinced few psychs have any amount of scholarly experience with robot fetishism.
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[15:10] <TeeTylerToe> psychologists can't even figure out what the fantasies more than half of women have where a strong powerful man is overcome by their looks
[15:11] <TeeTylerToe> mean
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[15:11] <Dcoetzee> Rape fantasy is kind of intuitive. Power exchange is a big part of the dynamic of sex.
[15:11] <TeeTylerToe> it's not a rape fantasy
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[15:11] <TeeTylerToe> it's great sex they don't feel guilty about because of western sexual repression
[15:12] <Jarry1250> Stove: Ah you sure you want the full list of recent changes? It's a very high-traffic channel.
[15:12] <Jarry1250> Oh, sorry, was scrolled up there
[15:12] <Jarry1250> Ignore me :P
[15:12] <Stove> That's ok Jarry1250.
[15:12] <Stove> Thanks anyway.
[15:12] <Stove> I lurked there for a couple of minutes, not one topic I know anything about.
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[15:13] <Dcoetzee> The psych establishment is kind of hit and miss. On one hand they're very knowledgeable about common disorders like depression and phobias. On the other hand they're prone to overdiagnosis and turning ordinary human variation that have no adverse effect on life into diseases requiring spurious treatments.
[15:14] <Dcoetzee> In the 50s it was homosexuality, in the present it's Aspergers and DID, among other things.
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[15:14] <mysterytrey> So what was the channel, anyway?
[15:14] <TeeTylerToe> overprescription of ADD meds and anti-depressants
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[15:16] <Stove> mysterytrey <Krenair> irc.wikimedia.org #en.wikipedia
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[15:16] <mysterytrey> oh.
[15:17] <mysterytrey> I tried wikipedia.en  That explains why it was empty.
[15:17] <mysterytrey> Invite only?
[15:17] <Stove> It's a different server.
[15:17] <Stove> Anyone can join.
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[15:19] <Dcoetzee> I honestly don't find the Recent Changes feed that useful, except for showing off to people "Look how fast people are editing Wikipedia!"
[15:19] <Soapy> its mostly used by bots that read it and filter it
[15:19] <Dcoetzee> Ahh I see
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[15:20] <Dcoetzee> I'm surprised there's not a more official service providing that...
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[15:22] <BlastHardcheese> it's run by the foundation on foundation servers, about as official as it gets
[15:22] <Dcoetzee> Okay I guess that's true.
[15:22] <Dcoetzee> But why IRC? Is there really no more appropriate protocol for such a live feed thing?
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[15:23] <Krenair> It sucks
[15:23] <BlastHardcheese> what protocol would you use
[15:23] <Krenair> I think there were proposals to fix it at some point
[15:23] <Dcoetzee> I'd propose a raw TCP service providing a continuous XML stream.
[15:24] <Dcoetzee> One edit per line, nice and machine readable.
[15:24] <Stove> That would be the windows way. And it's alright, but they'd probably go with JSON.
[15:24] <Dcoetzee> JSON is fine, whatever :-P
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[15:24] <Dcoetzee> Or maybe you issue a request when you connect and you get to pick.
[15:24] <Stove> I lean towards XML myself though.
[15:24] <Stove> yeah, some filtering would be nice
[15:25] <Soapy> supposedly JSON is less bloated than XML
[15:25] <Krenair> Why XML?
[15:25] <Stove> But I'd like it to filter on catogories, like, engineering stuff only, but as far as I know there are no such categories.
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[15:25] <BlastHardcheese> because Web 2.0™
[15:25] <Soapy> that would basically be a watchlist
[15:26] <Krenair> ಠ_ಠ
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[15:27] <TeeTylerToe> xml isn't windows specific
[15:27] <Stove> XML in it's bare form is alright, but as soon as they start adding namespaces and lots of options and xds and stuff, it becomes bloated and not human readable.
[15:28] <Goldy> Krenair: Like that emoticon: ಠ_ಠ! Cool! :)
[15:28] <Krenair> http://lookofdisapproval.info/
[15:28] <Dcoetzee> Stove: It's not supposed to be human readable.
[15:28] <Soapy> lol
[15:28] <Stove> Yes it is...
[15:28] <Dcoetzee> You want human readable, you add a client in front of it that prints it all nice.
[15:29] <Soapy>  a whole website just for ಠ_ಠ
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[15:29] <TeeTylerToe> and .docx became office open xml overnight, then microsoft packed the ISO committees with companies they paid to register with the committee and bought the vote
[15:29] <Dcoetzee> Stove: I'm not talking about the IRC stream
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[15:29] <Stove> Everything needs to be human readable, for debugging.
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[15:29] <TeeTylerToe> you could have a program that interprets it for debugging
[15:29] <Dcoetzee> You write a debugging utility.
[15:29] <Stove> Extensible Markup Language (XML) is a markup language that defines a set of rules for encoding documents in a format that is both human-readable and machine-readable. It is defined in the XML 1.0 Specification[4] produced by the W3C, and several other related specifications,[5] all gratis open standards.[6]
[15:29] <Stove> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML
[15:30] <Dcoetzee> Stove: To clarify XML is supposed to be human readable but we all know that's a lie :-P
[15:30] <Stove> In simple forms it's perfectly readable.
[15:30] <Stove> More so than SOAP.
[15:30] <Soapy> heh
[15:30] <Stove> But they're adding all sorts of things which bloat it.
[15:30] <Soapy> i was wondering if someone was going to mention SOAP sooner or later
[15:31] <Stove> ERRR
[15:31] <Stove> I meant JSON
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[15:31] <Stove> SOAP is an example of how unreadable XML can become.
[15:31] <Dcoetzee> Well there's always a tension between simplicity of the language and the complexity of what it can express.
[15:32] <Krenair> Quite honestly plain XML would be fine for MediaWiki
[15:32] <Dcoetzee> Yeah for a Recent Changes feed a super simple XML schema would be quite sufficient.
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[15:32] <Krenair> But I'd prefer JSON for the feed
[15:32] <Dcoetzee> Really though, might as well just have the person issuing the request say what they want. Everybody has different programming frameworks, and they work with different data.
[15:32] <Andeye> So you are seriously suggesting to skip the IRC feed in order to replace it with a TCP feed in xml, writing debbuging tools and client programs to parse the feed into a more human readable format instead of the perfeclty human readable feed that currently exists? Just curious :)
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[15:33] <Krenair> Andeye, only debugging tool you'd need to check the feed itself would be telnet
[15:33] <Dcoetzee> Andeye: Am I proposing replacing the human readable feed that is primarily parsed and used by machine with one that's written for machines in the first place? Yes
[15:33] <Dcoetzee> Moreover, the IRC feed itself could continue to exist and be built on top of the TCP feed.
[15:33] <Dcoetzee> Except it'd be just for people.
[15:34] <TeeTylerToe> couldn't you make it rss?
[15:34] <Krenair> The feed itself should be readable by machines easily at least, which can then prettify it and show it to a user
[15:34] <Dcoetzee> So they wouldn't have to worry about changing format, etc. anymore
[15:34] <Krenair> TeeTylerToe, RSS is not a live feed really
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[15:34] <Andeye> okay, i see :)
[15:34] <Dcoetzee> :-)
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[15:37] <Stove> Well, I dunno, the IRC has a link, and all the data is on that page really. How much data would you include in the XML feed?
[15:37] <Stove> The bots would have to visit the link anyways.
[15:37] <Stove> Unless you add all changed lines and stuff in the live feed.
[15:38] <Krenair> The current implementation just sends each change through UDP to a server to be broadcast.
[15:38] <Krenair> All that'd need to be changed would be the text. Moving out of IRC would be done separately if done at all
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[15:39] <BarkingFish> doesn't it annoy you when you spot someone you think is a sock, and you can't remember who the hell you think they're a sock of? :P
[15:41] <Soapy> thath's happened to me a couple of times
[15:41] <BlastHardcheese> sock of jimbo obviously
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[15:41] <Dcoetzee> Aren't we all just socks of Jimbo?
[15:42] <Dcoetzee> All talking on IRC with his many open IRC client instances.
[15:42] <Soapy> maybe if you just revert their edits with an edit summary like "reverting edits by sockpuppet" someone'll figure it out
[15:42] <Soapy> or, send them to SPI with a guess and then if it's someone else theyll figure it out
[15:42] <Soapy> or ,juust ask on IRC. how serious of a chance is it that hteyre actually a sock?
[15:42] <BarkingFish> I'm seeing this dude, User:Im_a_mob_guy - about 10 days back, there was another dude creating shedloads of mafia/cosa nostra capo & related articles, and they were getting speedied to death too.
[15:42] <Soapy> ok
[15:43] <Dcoetzee> BarkingFish: Is he recreated any deleted articles?
[15:43] <BarkingFish> i can't remember who the hell it was.
[15:43] <Dcoetzee> If so I can check their deleted edits.
[15:43] <BarkingFish> and yes, I think I can see at least 1 that's been speedied again, Dcoetzee
[15:43] <Soapy> yweah he looks pretty sockish
[15:43] <Dcoetzee> BarkingFish: Linky?
[15:43] <Soapy> 61 edits in his first day
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[15:44] <BarkingFish> http://enwp.org/Joseph Ciancaglini Jr.
[15:44] <BarkingFish> oops
[15:44] <BarkingFish> http://enwp.org/Joseph_Ciancaglini_Jr.
[15:44] <Dcoetzee> Created by User:Im a mob guy
[15:44] <Dcoetzee> No other editors.
[15:44] <Soapy> no obvious sockmasters yet
[15:44] <BarkingFish> hm... if only I could remember who the hell this other guy was...
[15:44] <BarkingFish> fuck. I hate my brain.
[15:45] <Dcoetzee> BarkingFish: I'll investigate briefly...
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[15:45] <Soapy> BarkingFish: do you remember if he was ever placed on ANI?
[15:45] <BarkingFish> if you can't find him, it means me going back through 10 days worth of RC
[15:45] <BarkingFish> I don't know, Soapy
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[15:45] <BarkingFish> all I know is I saw a lot of him in NPP
[15:46] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/King_Genovese
[15:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee do you play skyrim?
[15:46] <Soapy> maybe him ?
[15:46] <Soapy> he was blocked fairly recently
[15:46] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: I haven't bought it but watched a lot of Let's Plays
[15:46] <Dcoetzee> Looks awesome
[15:46] <Soapy> and was editing mafia articles
[15:46] <BarkingFish> yeah, that's a while back, Soapy - it's possible
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[15:47] <BarkingFish> but I need to know who this other person was too... might get two birds, one housebrick, etc
[15:47] <Dcoetzee> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philip_Mangano&diff=506604587&oldid=478996057 Ummm whitewashing or what?
[15:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee
[15:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsnRQJxanVM
[15:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I just found this
[15:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I find the game overal amazing
[15:47] <Soapy> well King Genovese has already got a few confirmed socks so my guess is that the person you saw is one of those
[15:48] <Soapy> or it's a coincidence
[15:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I care more about story in a game
[15:48] <Steven_Zhang> OMG
[15:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> and simply I am in awe despite nowhere near completing it
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[15:48] <Steven_Zhang> I found $50 in an old pair of jeans!
[15:48] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: I've heard its scale is immense. The graphics are incredible obviously.
[15:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I play it with my active shutter glasses
[15:49] <Dcoetzee> Steven_Zhang: Sweet! That's enough to buy a new pair of jeans!
[15:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that video is the song on the title screen
[15:49] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Nuts
[15:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee I bought a monitor that supports it
[15:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I get 60 hz on left 60hz on right ete
[15:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> *eye
[15:50] <Steven_Zhang> Dcoetzee: :P
[15:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so its very good quality 3d
[15:50] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Lots of depth? How is the angle independence?
[15:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> game itself is awesome and I use a few mods that fixes some bugs and etc
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[15:50] <ChrisGualtieri> The skyrim song as I hear it in english is hilarious
[15:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee what happens is your view in the game is projected on the screen one for each eye
[15:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> perspective of the left and right eye is different
[15:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ChrisGualtieri the song is in dragon language
[15:51] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: I'm familiar :-)
[15:51] <ChrisGualtieri> 3d Skyrim with voice commands and kinect = Warrior of Skyrim!
[15:51] <ChrisGualtieri> ToAruShiroiNeko: You clearly don't get the joke
[15:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I play on PC
[15:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ChrisGualtieri no I get it
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[15:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but I cannot shake the shock I had today discovering they actually came up with a language for the game
[15:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I demand a dragon language wikipedia now
[15:52] <ChrisGualtieri> I don't want to get banned for spouting a bunch of memes and some cursing, but I love the lyrics
[15:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ChrisGualtieri what is amazing is thats JUST the title soundtrack
[15:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you know, on the first menu
[15:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> TBH such a waste
[15:53] <Dcoetzee> ChrisGualtieri: Those memes used to be funny, but then they took an arrow to the knee
[15:53] <ChrisGualtieri> Dcoetzee: That one is a little tired, but the chicken gag or child beating one is still funny
[15:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee I used to be an IRCer like you but then I had taken a meme to the knee
[15:54] <ChrisGualtieri> Beat a kid, no bounty, take an apple and die!
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[15:54] <Dcoetzee> Heh
[15:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ChrisGualtieri I like to rob an entire town and they dont realize the problem
[15:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 100 pickpocket so I steal the clothes and armor they are wearing too
[15:54] <ChrisGualtieri> With maxed out everything I basically soared through the game XD
[15:54] <Dcoetzee> I'm seriously worried about this Im a mob guy and his glorification of Mafia people
[15:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mafia people have the glory of a seat cussion
[15:55] <ChrisGualtieri> You block him and you wind up in the lake kind?
[15:55] <ChrisGualtieri> Or the 'Is he serious?' worried.
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[15:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee I would recomend the game, moreso with active shutter system
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[15:56] <TeeTylerToe> it really glorifies dragon killing
[15:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> TeeTylerToe not really
[15:56] <Dcoetzee> ChrisGualtieri: More the "this guy gonna get banned for POV editing" kinda worried
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[15:57] <ChrisGualtieri> Ah, that's compassionate.
[15:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> not to spoil it but not all dragons are hostile
[15:57] <Gold2468|BRB> Hey, I GTG! Bye! :(
[15:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am worried that Dcoetzee is worried :p
[15:57] <Dcoetzee> Gold2468|BRB: Take care!
[15:57] <BarkingFish> i'm not having much luck, I'm going through the category "American mob bosses", but not scoring anything.  :(
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[15:58] <Dcoetzee> BarkingFish: Problem is they probs got deleted.
[15:58] <Dcoetzee> No way to find deleted articles in a category!
[15:58] <BarkingFish> not all of them did, i think
[15:58] <BarkingFish> I know a fair few did though, he had about 10 or more speedy notices on his talk page
[15:59] <Dcoetzee> BarkingFish: Did you make any edits to his pages?
[15:59] <BarkingFish> no
[15:59] <Dcoetzee> Or his talk page?
[15:59] <Dcoetzee> Hmm
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[15:59] <BarkingFish> i think the most i did was mark one as patrolled
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[16:00] <Dcoetzee> Check out his life story here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Giuseppe_Battista_Balsamo "I loved Mafia since I was a child and my family had some strong connections to, I usually know things about the real inside of the Mob but I dont really know Sicilans very well like Giuseppe, I find he was a major figure in the Brooklyn criminal underworld."
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[16:00] <Dcoetzee> That deletion discussion also links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:King_Genovese
[16:00] <Dcoetzee> Who may be your sockmaster.
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[16:01] <Dcoetzee> BarkingFish: ping
[16:01] <BarkingFish> boing
[16:01] <Dcoetzee> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:King_Genovese
[16:01] <BarkingFish> Dcoetzee, he most likely is
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[16:02] <BarkingFish> the thing is, it was another username, not the one i found tonight or that one, or the others listed...
[16:02] <Dcoetzee> Hmmm an undiscovered sock?
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[16:03] <ChrisGualtieri> How about rather than be heavy handed, warn him (personally) and instruct him
[16:03] <BarkingFish> yeah
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[16:03] <ChrisGualtieri> We need more Mafia related articles with RELIABLE sources
[16:03] <BarkingFish> how about catching the socks out there while they're socking, ChrisGualtieri? :)
[16:03] <ChrisGualtieri> I know there are legitimate socks and bad socks
[16:03] <Dcoetzee> "I oppose this idea. Experts should be encouraged to become regular contributors by making Wikipedia a more welcoming environment for them as regular editors." ...really?
[16:03] <BarkingFish> we do need more rs mafia articles, we also need them made by users who aren't circumventing blocks to keep editing :)
[16:04] <ChrisGualtieri> If its circumventing a block, the block should be imposed and the talk page be opened to discussion for constructive purposes
[16:04] <WilliamH_UK> a sock? where
[16:05] <ChrisGualtieri> A lot of editors get blocked for dumb stuff, I can't even fix typos without someone threatening me with ANI >.>
[16:05] <BarkingFish> possible socks, WilliamH_UK - at least one, i'm trying to remember the name of the other one
[16:05] <WilliamH_UK> where are they congregating?
[16:05] <BarkingFish> I'm looking at User:Im_a_mob_guy , WilliamH_UK
[16:05] <BarkingFish> targeting and making articles on mafia peeps, WilliamH_UK
[16:05] <ChrisGualtieri> If its a legit block and he's circumventing, then yeah, smack with a trout, impose block and let him know the rules in a personal manner.
[16:07] <ChrisGualtieri> Ignorance I think is the main problem with most new editors, they see policies only after its too late, or they don't make the effort
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[16:08] <WilliamH_UK> and does that relate to a deletion discussion?
[16:10] <TeeTylerToe> Some admins are judge dredd types
[16:10] <BarkingFish> It relates to a sockmaster with confirmed socks who's worked on mafia issues, WilliamH_UK  - one on King Genovese
[16:11] <TeeTylerToe> more account needs to be made for the humanity and bias of Admins
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[16:11] <TeeTylerToe> they're not machines
[16:11] <WilliamH_UK> BarkingFish look at the  history of the target article
[16:11] <WilliamH_UK> there might be some socks there
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[16:12] <BarkingFish> there may be, WilliamH_UK - the one I'm trying to remember turned up in NPP about 10 days ago, I can't remember the username though, and I ain't trolling back through RC or NPP to find it :)
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[16:13] <BarkingFish> I think the first part of his username was something like Silviano or Silvio or something weird assed like that
[16:14] <BarkingFish> Salvino possibly... like i said, i hate my brain
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[16:14] <The_Thing> http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/08/10/2217238/beware-the-nocebo-effect
[16:15] <The_Thing> "In one remarkable case, a participant in an antidepressant drug trial was given placebo tablets — and then swallowed 26 of them in a suicide attempt. Even though the tablets were harmless, the participant's blood pressure dropped perilously low."  O_O
[16:15] <WilliamH_UK> heh
[16:15] <WilliamH_UK> the power of placebo
[16:16] <TeeTylerToe> would people in a drug trial for a drug with no listed side-effects on the placebo quit the trial because of migranes or whatever?
[16:17] <russavia> no teetylertoe i would demand that they start giving me drugs with proven side effects
[16:17] <Soapy> hi Thing
[16:17] <Dcoetzee> The_Thing: That's amazing :-S
[16:18] <russavia> and particularly drugs which  cause euphoria, delirium, hallucinations, and muntedness
[16:19] <TeeTylerToe> muntedness?
[16:19] <russavia> well muntedness is more a state of mind
[16:19] <russavia> but it's a great state of mind to be in
[16:20] <WilliamH_UK> BarkingFish I will CheckUser
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[16:20] <BarkingFish> thanks
[16:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee sure
[16:21] <russavia> i love nothing more than going on a kick-arse bender and after about 5-6 days ending up at the casino, and being asked to leave because one is so munted
[16:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko>  mafia is a community after all
[16:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they just are dicks to everyone outside of the family
[16:22] <WilliamH_UK> BarkingFish {{confirmed}}, I will block
[16:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> well they operate at the expense of everyone outside of the family
[16:22] <TeeTylerToe> sounds like just about any community of privlege
[16:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> russavia did you see my pm?
[16:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> TeeTylerToe not really
[16:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no other community even 1% actively does what mafia does
[16:23] <WilliamH_UK> blocked
[16:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yay
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[16:23] <Dcoetzee> The main issue with the Mafia is, you know, the fact that they terrorise the city and make people live in fear of them.
[16:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> isnt that {{indefbolocked}} ~~~~
[16:23] <TeeTylerToe> a lot of groups do that
[16:23] <Dcoetzee> Also the murder, theft, drug running, forced prostititution...
[16:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee that and they shoot people.
[16:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee extorsion, human trafficking
[16:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> bribary
[16:24] <Dcoetzee> Yeah
[16:24] <BarkingFish> WilliamH_UK, excellent. Thank you :)
[16:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> and most importantly, severed head transportation
[16:24] <WilliamH_UK> blocked the range too
[16:24] <TeeTylerToe> the plutocrats under russian and chinese communism
[16:24] <BarkingFish> Spot'em like a ninja, i can :)
[16:24] <WilliamH_UK> yep well done
[16:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> *and most importantly, severed horse head transportation
[16:24] <WilliamH_UK> can any of his creations be speedied?
[16:25] <TeeTylerToe> the rape of nanking
[16:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee you know what the government has with mafia most
[16:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tax evasion
[16:25] <TeeTylerToe> the spanish inquisition
[16:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> TeeTylerToe ewww
[16:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> dont bring nanking and actual disputes here
[16:25] <TeeTylerToe> ?
[16:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> nanking is terrible
[16:26] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: I'm pretty sure underground criminals have learned their lesson since Al Capone. :-P
[16:26] <TeeTylerToe> russian communism wasn't a walk in the park either
[16:26] <Dcoetzee> Better not to attract the Fed's attention
[16:27] <TeeTylerToe> now they use banks like barkleys
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[16:27] <BarkingFish> I'm just going to join again, need to check something :)
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[16:28] <Soapy> wb
[16:28] <TeeTylerToe> power corrupts
[16:28] <The_Thing> Writing from his extensive experience of treating cancer (including more than 1,000 melanoma cases) at Sydney Hospital, Milton (1973) warned of the impact of the delivery of a prognosis, and how many of his patients, upon receiving their prognosis, simply turned their face to the wall and died an extremely premature death: "... there is a small group of patients in whom the realisation of impending death is a blow so terribl
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[16:29] <WilliamH_UK> :(
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[16:32] <ChrisGualtieri> Does linking to someone's Linked In profile qualify for oversight?
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[16:33] <Fluffernutter> usually, Chris_G
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[16:33] <Fluffernutter> er, ChrisGualtieri
[16:33] <ChrisGualtieri> XD
[16:33] <ChrisGualtieri> Is one oversighter on?
[16:33] <The_Thing> XD
�06[16:34] * The_Thing waves to Chris_G anyways, because he can :p
[16:34] <Fluffernutter> i'm on, but i'm about to go eat dinner
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[16:34] <The_Thing> Wait, what?
[16:34] <ChrisGualtieri> I'll just PM you when you get back then
[16:34] <The_Thing> Fluffernutter is an oversighter!?
[16:34] <Fluffernutter> ChrisGualtieri, you can pm it to me now
[16:34] <Fluffernutter> The_Thing, yes?
[16:34] <Soapy> there was an election recently, the_THing
[16:34] <The_Thing> When the hell did that happen?
[16:34] <The_Thing> ah
[16:35] <The_Thing> Who else was elected?
[16:35] <WilliamH_UK> october 2011
[16:35] <WilliamH_UK> me
[16:35] <WilliamH_UK> courcelles
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[16:35] <WilliamH_UK> er
[16:35] <Soapy> eh, I thought it was the July 2012 election
[16:35] <WilliamH_UK> nah
[16:35] <Soapy> guess not
[16:36] <Soapy> well there was another one last month
[16:36] <WilliamH_UK> yup
[16:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee but how would you submit your taxes
[16:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> whats the tax rate of extortion?
[16:38] <The_Thing> q q  qq qqq qq q q q qq
[16:39] <BarkingFish> The_Thing, that's all we do all day. Queue :)
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[16:39] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Technically the IRS has rates on all these things.
[16:40] <Dcoetzee> That's the amazing thing about the IRS.
[16:40] <Dcoetzee> They'll be like "you robbed a bank... okay... we'll charge 15% on that"
[16:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee hmm
[16:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I wonder how much will they tax the bailout itself
[16:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 15% of that is good money
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[16:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee IRS is a strange organization
[16:47] <Stove> Did you know the IRS allows a one time gift to your spouse of up to 60 000USD?
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[16:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> not really
[16:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> since I dont do spouses
[16:47] <Demiurge1000> Hmm, my G'N'R CD is about ten times louder than my CD by The Cult. I just probably woke up anyone asleep within a three mile radius.
[16:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Demiurge1000 so we should expect vandalism on wikipedia for those articles
[16:48] <Demiurge1000> just the G'N'R one
[16:48] <Stove> (It's a quote from The Shawshank Redemption.
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[16:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> there should be laws against music that is not properly normalised
[16:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> can IRS tax loud music?
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[16:50] <Stove> Not to audiophiles, because that's a metal health related cost.
[16:50] <BarkingFish> ok - one other thing i need to look at then , WilliamH_UK  - since i managed to spot the last one.... is there any way to search the user list for usernames containing a particular string?
[16:50] <BarkingFish> i'm sure this other guy had the word mob or mafia or similar in his username...
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[16:58] <Soapy> yes
[16:58] <Soapy> http://toolserver.org/~pathoschild/gusersearch/?name=&limit=250&offset=50 , BarkingFish
[16:58] <BarkingFish> brilliant :) Cheers
[16:58] <Soapy> but its slow
[16:59] <Soapy> it's gonna search all 300,000,000 users
[16:59] <BarkingFish> slow or not, I'm determined to nail this little sob to the nearest gatepost
[16:59] <BarkingFish> :P
[16:59] <ChrisGualtieri> You are still looking into it?
[17:00] <BarkingFish> you freaking bet I am. I caught one, I'm not missing the other creep either :)
[17:00] <WilliamH_UK> BarkingFish good luck
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[17:00] <WilliamH_UK> PM me if you find one
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[17:01] <BarkingFish> going back through NPP from 10 days ago and prior, searching using the find function in Firefox for the words mob, mafia, cosa or crime
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[17:03] <Isarra> What font is the wikipedia logo?
[17:04] <BarkingFish> Linux Libertine O Isarra i think
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[17:04] <Isarra> It's not that, unless it was heavily modified.
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[17:05] <BarkingFish> It is, trust me. I had it here when I was trying to create the new design for the Tok Pisin Wikipedia logo v2
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[17:06] <TeeTylerToe> comic sans?
[17:06] <BarkingFish> WilliamH_UK, got at least one, I may have missed - it's not the one I was thinking of, but could you please check out User:Brucewayneent?
[17:06] <Macriz> oh god, not comic sans.
[17:07] <Macriz> as a designer, i LOATHE that font.
[17:07] <BarkingFish> Seems to be another one involved in mafia articles, I have an unpatrolled entry from July 12th
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[17:08] <Dragonfly6-7> tonight's Poorly Chosen Filename is:
[17:09] <Dragonfly6-7> [[file:Kaka.JPG]]
[17:09] <Dragonfly6-7> without looking, what do you think that is?
[17:09] <Macriz> a cat?
[17:09] <BarkingFish> sounds suspiciously like a pile of shit, Dragonfly6-7 :P
[17:09] <harej|onVacation> Ralph Nader?
[17:10] <Macriz> Sarah Palin in a g-string?
[17:10] <BarkingFish> Just to let you know, WilliamH_UK - I'm screwed, I can't go back any further than 30 days... I'm obviously missing something.
[17:10] <Isarra> BarkingFish: The K is wrong, the E is wrong, the D is wrong, the A is wrong, and the Vs are wrong.
[17:10] <Dragonfly6-7> BarkingFish - it's a tiny kitten grooming herself.
[17:10] <Isarra> The Is are right, though.
[17:10] <BarkingFish> 0.o
[17:10] <WilliamH_UK> heh BarkingFish @ kaka comment
[17:10] <WilliamH_UK> BarkingFish stick it in a PM
[17:10] <BarkingFish> Isarra, I'm positive of what it is, I was directed to it when I was building the logo :)
[17:11] <Isarra> Well, I just checked and it ain't it.
[17:11] <Isarra> It may have been based on it, though.
[17:13] <BarkingFish> Isarra, http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks/Word_mark_creation#The_type_face:_Linux_Libertine
[17:13] <BarkingFish> Read
[17:14] <BarkingFish> Download the font-file File:LinLibertineO 473.zip (you will need to unzip and install the font)
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[17:14] <Isarra> Oh, I tried that. Font was malformed.
[17:14] <BarkingFish> WilliamH_UK, I just posted it to you above :)
[17:14] <BarkingFish> Well that's the official doodad we use
[17:15] <WilliamH_UK> posted what
[17:15] <BarkingFish> if the font is malformed, you've probably not installed the right version
[17:15] <WilliamH_UK> sorry BarkingFish am doing quite a few things at once
[17:15] <Isarra> I'm not competent enough to unmalform it, though.
[17:15] <BarkingFish> WilliamH_UK, the username of the poss. sock
[17:15] <WilliamH_UK> PM it, i can't keep track of this while doing lots at once
[17:15] <BarkingFish> ok
[17:15] <Isarra> The problem is it ain't linux libertine. Trying to install it when you already have linux libertine results in a conflict.
[17:16] <BarkingFish> it shouldn't.
[17:17] <BarkingFish> have you installed the right version?
[17:17] <BarkingFish> there is one in the zip file - LinLibertine_Re-4.7.3.otf - which was modded specifically for the WMF
[17:18] <Isarra> They probably forgot to update the metadata.
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[17:21] #wikipedia-en url is https://en.wikipedia.org/
[17:21] <Dragonfly6-7> I have a page bookmarked on toolserv -- it's created by someone called "Nikola"
[17:21] <Dragonfly6-7> anyone konw who that is?
[17:21] <ChrisGualtieri> Gah my AWB crashed x-x
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[17:24] <Dragonfly6-7> isn't there a toolserv channel?
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[17:28] <Nascar1996> um.
[17:29] <BarkingFish> Dragonfly6-7, yeah, #wikimedia-toolserver
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[17:31] <Dragonfly6-7> Found it, thanks
[17:32] <BarkingFish> np
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[17:36] <SigmaWP> Stupid peers
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[17:37] <Guerillero> would someone be willing to NPOV check an article / work out my its and it's
[17:37] <Guerillero> please
[17:38] <Guerillero> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lendink
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[17:39] <BarkingFish> Do we have any file renamers on here please? :)
[17:39] <Guerillero> yes
[17:39] <BarkingFish> I just realized I've made a mistake in a file i uploaded, it needs renaming to make it accurate :)
[17:40] <BarkingFish> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Little_Boy_Lost_-_Bondi_Beach_2009_-_Paul_Trefry.jpg  needs to be renamed to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Little_Boy_Lost_-_Tamarama_Beach_2009_-_Paul_Trefry.jpg
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[17:40] <BarkingFish> it wasn't on Bondi :P
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[17:40] <Guerillero> done
[17:41] <BarkingFish> thanks :)
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[17:41] <Guerillero> should I have left a redirect?
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[17:42] <Soapy> Guerillero: done
[17:43] <SigmaWP> Never leave file redirects
[17:43] <BarkingFish> no, that's fine - nothing else links to that name :)
[17:43] <Guerillero> thank you soapy
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[17:52] <Guerillero> how are you today
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[17:53] <Isarra> I'm insane.
[17:53] <Isarra> Are you mad?
[17:54] <Guerillero> just a touch
[17:54] <BarkingFish> of course. I wouldn't be here if I wasn't :)
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[17:55] <BarkingFish> by the way, my owl is in the green. can you microwave it for 20 flipflops before I come back with the pickled hatstand?
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[17:55] <BarkingFish> no need, i'm already there :)
[17:57] <BarkingFish> if i was anymore baked i'd need eggwash and 20 minutes on a cooling rack
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[17:59] <BarkingFish> can someone check this out please - it's suspected as a cut and paste move, or a recreation... I can't see if it's been deleted previously or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddybears_(TV_series)
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[17:59] <Guerillero> not under that name
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[18:01] <BarkingFish> it's a real programme, that much I know - found it on youtube :)  it smelt like a hoax when i first saw it.
[18:01] <kylu> BarkingFish: check [[Wizardora]] and (according to Yahoo, posted 4 years ago http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080408084642AAU0FGT
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[18:01] <BarkingFish> very very poorly written though, and unsourced.
[18:01] <Soapy> Created page with '{{cleanup|date=April 2012}} < ---- always a red flag
[18:01] <kylu> googled the phrase "The series was made for Meridian Broadcasting by production companies Workhouse and North Pole Productions at The Fountain Studios in New Malden and directed by David Crozier."
[18:01] <rugvm> !ops BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS EVERYWHERE!
[18:02] <kylu> rugvm: yet, no shit.
[18:02] <SigmaWP> lol kylu
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[18:02] <rugvm> !ops BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS EVERYWHERE!
[18:02] <rugvm> !ops BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS EVERYWHERE!
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[18:02] <BarkingFish> evening derp. Nice of you to grace us with your bullshit.
[18:02] <Guerillero> lol
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[18:02] <kylu> no bullshit, just butts, zomg reading issues.
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[18:03] <Soapy> BarkingFish: he may have just copied it from some other article that already had a cleanup tag on it
[18:03] <Soapy> Id focus on whether Teddybears even exists
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[18:03] <kylu> Soapy: mmm, but when was that phrase added to both articles?
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[18:03] <BarkingFish> Soapy, <BarkingFish>it's a real programme, that much I know - found it on youtube :)  it smelt like a hoax when i first saw it.
[18:03] <@DeltaQuad> WilliamH_UK: redundant much?
[18:03] <kylu> if they're less than four years old, they're copyvio from yahoo
[18:03] <BarkingFish> Soapy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viUXqWSBeDg
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[18:04] <Soapy> ok
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[18:04] <WilliamH_UK> errrr totally didnt see it
[18:04] <WilliamH_UK> hahaha
[18:04] <BarkingFish> +r anyone?
[18:04] <xthtjws> DeltaQuad can lick my scrotum.
[18:04] <BarkingFish> Here's another one.
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[18:04] <xthtjws> DeltaQuad can lick my scrotum.
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[18:04] <@DeltaQuad> no thanks
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[18:04] <kylu> s'pose it was nice enough to offer, anyway. c.c
[18:05] <Soapy> "oohoohoohhohh ... it's getting darker and darker ... i think you'd better take your umber-ella"
[18:05] <Soapy> really reminds me of teletubbies
[18:05] <Dusti> BUTTS
[18:06] <Dusti> Sorry
[18:06] <Dusti> Wanted to join in
[18:06] <Dusti> on the butt talk
[18:06] <Earwig> who wouldn't?
[18:06] <kylu> There was a show I saw on CBC forever ago... can't recall what it was called. hm.
[18:06] <BarkingFish> It is a copypaste move, Soapy - one of the cleanup tags goes wayback to 2007
[18:07] <Soapy> interesting link, BarkingFish
[18:07] <kylu> oh, Candle Cove.
[18:07] <BarkingFish> no idea who the fuck has been harboring it that long
[18:07] <Soapy> BarkingFish: it could still be legit, though
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[18:07] <BarkingFish> it's real, alright - completely legit, just written very very poorly
[18:07] <Soapy> if he only copypasted the tags and infoboxes, but the content was new .... that would be an unusual way to make an article, but not impossible
[18:07] <kylu> never did find a wikipedia entry for it... probably too obscure a kid's show. c.c
�06[18:08] * kylu only saw reruns, though... 1975 maybe.
[18:08] <Soapy> "ooh the sky just seems to be getting darker and darker : ("
[18:08] <BarkingFish> kylu, I may be able to help you with that. Can you remember *anything* at all about the series.  What featured in it, storylines, anything specific about characters...
[18:09] <Soapy> "storeholders going home?  Storeholders! Going home! Storeholders! Going home! ehehehehahahaha"
[18:09] <BarkingFish> Don't ask me, Soapy - I never saw it.
[18:09] <BarkingFish> All I know is that video has put me off it from the word go
[18:09] <Soapy> ha
[18:09] <BarkingFish> Clearly and obviously shite to the nth degree
[18:09] <kylu> BarkingFish: oh, kinda... it had something to do with a little girl, Janet or something, who would visit these creepy puppet pirates
[18:09] <Soapy> i could totally see myself watching that obsessively when I was a kid
[18:10] <kylu> they had a ship called the "Laughingstock" iirc.
[18:10] <kylu> and there was a Captain Hook rip-off for a bad guy, and a puppet that (and yes, it's morbid) wore skins from bad children
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[18:11] <BarkingFish> kylu, that was Candle Cove
[18:11] <kylu> Yeah!
[18:11] <kylu> insane show.
[18:11] <kylu> they had it on right after Tomorrow People
[18:12] <BarkingFish> http://candlecove.wikia.com/wiki/Candle_Cove_%28Program%29
[18:12] <kylu> teenagers who had these weird watch things that would let them teleport around, and they were all telepathic and stuff
[18:12] <kylu> ...it's got its own wiki, but no wp entry. o.O;
[18:12] <Soapy> make one now !!!
[18:14] <kylu> http://candlecove.wikia.com/wiki/Innovation <- wat o.o;
[18:14] <kylu> so, apparently the show really was just as weird as I recall.
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[18:21] <Soapy> hey look
[18:21] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Teddybears_CITV
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[18:21] <Soapy> i found the source
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[18:21] <Qcoder02> OOdd thing
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[18:22] <Qcoder02> Apparently Kinghtmare had a French languge offshot
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[18:22] <Qcoder02> Hi Kylu
[18:23] <Qcoder02> BarkingFish:  BTW There are 2 versions of the Tommorow People
[18:23] <kylu> 'lo
[18:23] <kylu> I saw the Thames one from the 70's.
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[18:24] <BarkingFish> Yeah, there was an old version from the 1970s ish, and there was a newer one with that kid that played Karl Kennedy's son in Neighbours
[18:24] <kylu> Also: Dangermouse!
[18:24] <kylu> that was a bit later though iirc.
[18:24] <Qcoder02> There was a 90's (TP) about which I recall not very much apart from  it having a typecast Christopher lee in it
[18:24] <BarkingFish> I think his character name in Neighbours was todd... Kristian Schmidt iirc
[18:24] <kylu> Did you ever see Candle Cove, QC2?
[18:25] <Qcoder02> No...
[18:25] <Qcoder02> But I did see an obscure European serial called Silas in the UK
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�06[18:25] * kylu shrugs, will find someone else that's seen it.
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[18:25] <Qcoder02> It went for ever and couldn't understand  the story
[18:25] <Demiurge1000> oo, Silas
[18:25] <Demiurge1000> It had horses in it!
[18:25] <Demiurge1000> and random people who kept kidnapping children?
[18:25] <Qcoder02> Yeah
[18:26] <Demiurge1000> or maybe it was the horses that kidnapped the children
[18:26] <Qcoder02> Also in my distant recall is another European adpatation of Hedi
[18:26] <Qcoder02> And various BBC adpatations of Alice in Wonderland that merge
[18:26] <Demiurge1000> If you believe BBC News, /Silas/ was just like modern Britain, without the Olympics except for the equestrian events
[18:27] <Qcoder02> Speaking of Alice in Wonderland...   Is it just me or do some of the version end up a bit tripy?
[18:27] <Qcoder02> *versions
[18:28] <Demiurge1000> See also [[Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas]]
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[18:28] <Demiurge1000> and the soundtrack thereof
�06[18:28] * kylu stops reading the Candle Cove wiki. Explains why kylu's f'd in the head, at least. c.c
[18:29] <Qcoder02> The thing is a lot of British Kids TV by reputation as opposed to actually having seen it...  Liek Children of the Stones...
[18:29] <BarkingFish> Demiurge1000, yeah, it had that freaky circus dude in it as well, the sword swallower - and that kid with the gammy leg, Godik.
[18:29] <Qcoder02> BarkingFish:  Ever seen 'Children of the Stones' ?
[18:30] <BarkingFish> Damn. That really takes me back. We saw that in Iceland. Every friday at 6.55 pm :P  It actually scared me a bit when I was young.
[18:30] <BarkingFish> and no, never seen that, Qcoder02
[18:30] <Demiurge1000> I might have
[18:31] <Qcoder02> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_the_Stones
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[18:31] <Qcoder02> Mid 70's  but with production values that wouldn't have been out of place on Tales of the Unexpected :)
[18:31] <Demiurge1000> " it was an unusually atmospheric production with sinister, discordant wailing voices heightening the tension on the incidental music" -- rewrite for English pls!
[18:32] <kylu> Was it that or a Third Eye episode that had the two kids with the crystals at Stonehenge?
[18:32] <Qcoder02> It's a shame ITV4 isn't  re-airing old Kids TV
[18:32] <kylu> The only thing I remember vividly was a red and blue arc across the sky.
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[18:32] <Qcoder02> BarkingFish:  I note ITV4 is still airing old Sweeny episodes :)
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[18:33] <BarkingFish> of course. a bit of Jack Reagan style justice wouldn't go amiss in the UK these days, Qcoder02
[18:33] <BarkingFish> i'm surprised the met don't use it as a training video :P
[18:35] <BarkingFish> anyhow, I'm gonna pack up and get gone for the night. Bedtime :)
[18:35] <BarkingFish> yay
[18:35] <BarkingFish> see ya
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[18:36] <Guerillero> am I on here
[18:36] <Dagny> No.
[18:36] <N96> yup
[18:36] <Guerillero> thanks
[18:36] <N96> :)
[18:36] <Qcoder02> Kylu:  That could be either Third Eye or  Children of The Stones...
[18:37] <Qcoder02> Children of the Stones was filmed in Averbury IIRC
[18:37] <SigmaWP> Guerillero: No.
[18:37] <Guerillero> :D
[18:37] <kylu> don't remember the red and blue arc?
[18:37] <kylu> Blast.
[18:37] <Qcoder02> I haven't seen it :(
[18:37] <Qcoder02> Only clips
[18:37] <SigmaWP> wctaiwan: 好久不見, 你最近怎麼樣?
[18:38] <wctaiwan> I'm fine.
[18:38] <Qcoder02> My memory of TV is also slightly biased in that when little I didn't see ITV shows... only the BBC ones...
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[18:38] <kylu> Mine was mostly CBC and Thames shows.
[18:38] <Qcoder02> Also some (import) series in the UK  had a different dub from elsewhere
[18:38] <Dagny> The only TV show that made any impact on child-me was The Animals of Farthing Wood.
[18:39] <kylu> Can't say it rings any bells, Dagny. Sorry. :(
[18:39] <Qcoder02> I am however aware of some US kids shows by reputation ... Like Sesame Street and Mr Rogers Neighbourhood
[18:40] <Dagny> kylu: It was a cartoon about some animals from Farthing Wood (surprise surprise) and when their wood gets destroyed they go on an epic journey to get to Whitedeer park, a nature reserve or something.
[18:40] <Qcoder02> Dgany: It was originally a book
[18:40] <Dagny> The hedgehogs got ran over crossing a motorway, I remember that too clearly.
[18:41] <kylu> QC2: According to WP, you're double correct, as The Third Eye was a rebroadcast of other small series, including... Children of the Stones.
[18:41] <Dagny> Qcoder02: Yeah, I never found the book though. Just watched the series avidly as a kid.
[18:41] <kylu> *doubly
[18:41] <Qcoder02> I also recall a lot of  adaptations of Books done as Jackanory
[18:41] <Qcoder02> readings
[18:41] <Qcoder02> which is why I get little annoyed sometimes when Librivox readings dont work
[18:42] <Qcoder02> vocally
[18:42] <Qcoder02> Dagny: To give an example,  Kiplings stories don't sound right read by someone from Brooklyn
[18:43] <Dagny> I imagine not.
[18:43] <Qcoder02> Just as Tom Sawyer doesn't sound right to me if it's read by someone from England ;)
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[18:45] <kylu> QC2: Could be worse, as reading bits of Huckleberry Finn aloud is considered an invitation to street violence in places.
[18:46] <Qcoder02> kylu: Children of The Stones is on YouTube  (unofficialy though :( )
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[18:47] <Qcoder02> A more recent Kids TV series that worked was 'The Demon Headmaster'
[18:47] <Qcoder02> ;)
[18:47] <Guerillero> whats wrong with MR Rodger's Neighborhood
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[18:48] <kylu> QC2: I'm fairly certain I had one of those, actually.
[18:48] <Qcoder02> Guerillero:  Nothing
[18:48] <Qcoder02> I never said there was anythign wrong with it
[18:48] <SigmaWP> How do you get stomach cancer
[18:49] <kylu> Unfortunately I had a Dean who was both an ex-USAian American Football player and a close friend of my father.
[18:49] <SigmaWP> Why didn't his stomach digest the cancer
[18:49] <SigmaWP> OH SHIT
�06[18:49] * Qcoder02 is lol-ing at a clip of TIMESLIP
[18:49] <Dragonfly6-7> It did, but the cancer grew too fast
[18:49] <SigmaWP> If you go to the stomach cancer article, your eyes will dissolve
[18:51] <Qcoder02> kylu: BTW On the subject of TV...  I laughed at the 1st Series of Look Around You...
[18:51] <Qcoder02> I can recall 'Education' programmes that use the exact same style ;)
[18:51] <kylu> I always wondered about that... was it done by the Monty Python folks?
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[18:53] <Qcoder02> Look Around You was not done by Python
[18:53] <BarkingFish> I was gonn ago to bed, but I have got a copyright issue to raise first... Seems we have a bad license up somewhere.
[18:53] <Qcoder02> BTW On a curious side note - John Cleese DID make a LOT of managment training films
[18:53] <Isarra> BarkingFish: The tagline actually is linux libertine.
[18:53] <Isarra> Just for the record.
[18:53] <Isarra> I checked.
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[18:54] <BarkingFish> Anyway - can someone review this, so I can fo back to bed please?
[18:54] <BarkingFish> http://registration.olympic.org/en/faq/detail/id/80  and http://enwp.org/File:Fuwa.png
[18:54] <Qcoder02> BarkingFish: On something else - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQYSYyv4y4w&feature=related - Look Around You got it exacrtly right...
[18:54] <BarkingFish> we have the Olympic rings as being PD - they're not
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[18:55] <wctaiwan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Olympic_Rings.svg
[18:55] <wctaiwan> (not the fuwa)
[18:55] <BarkingFish> read the bottom of the fuwa page, wctaiwan
[18:55] <BarkingFish> The olympic rings are NOT Public domain
[18:56] <BarkingFish> "The Olympic rings are the exclusive property of the International Olympic Committee (IOC). The Olympic rings are protected around the world in the name of the IOC by trademarks or national legislations and cannot be used without the IOC's prior written consent. "
[18:56] <wctaiwan> oh
[18:56] <kylu> They're not technically trademarked either.
[18:56] <wctaiwan> BarkingFish: it's still possibly PD
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[18:56] <kylu> They've actually got their own law, similar to the devices of the International Red Cross.
[18:56] <wctaiwan> just trademarked
[18:56] <BarkingFish> That's listed in the IOC's charter
[18:56] <Qcoder02> Twinkle's broken :(
[18:57] <Qcoder02> I'm not seeing the normal menu options
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[18:57] <wctaiwan> BarkingFish: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_symbols#Olympic_rings it's PD
[18:58] <wctaiwan> designed in 1912, so PD in the US.
[18:58] <wctaiwan> (which is where the servers are)
[18:58] <froodonwheels> Yes hello, frood here.
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[18:58] <flaiz> hello sir.
[18:58] <Frostee> ON WHEELS
[18:59] <froodonwheels> Yes.
[18:59] <wctaiwan> anyway, I need to go. BarkingFish, basically I think the way it's tagged is fine—doesn't mean you can incorporate a trademark in your designs etc.—but others may disagree.
[18:59] <flaiz> You spin me right round, baby
[18:59] <flaiz> Right round like a record, baby
[18:59] <BarkingFish> wctaiwan, How can something be Public Domain when the rights to it are still owned or copyrighted?
[19:00] <BarkingFish> I pulled this from the actual olympic charter
[19:00] <BarkingFish> "The Olympic symbol, flag, motto, anthem, identifications (including but not limited
[19:00] <BarkingFish> to “Olympic Games” and “Games of the Olympiad”), designations, emblems, flame
[19:00] <BarkingFish> and torches, as defined in Rules 8-14 below, may, for convenience, be collectively
[19:00] <BarkingFish> or individually referred to as “Olympic properties”. All rights to any and all Olympic
[19:00] <BarkingFish> properties, as well as all rights to the use thereof, belong exclusively to the IOC,
[19:00] <BarkingFish> including but not limited to the use for any profit-making, commercial or advertising
[19:00] <BarkingFish> purposes. The IOC may license all or part of its rights on terms and conditions set forth
[19:00] <BarkingFish> by the IOC Executive Board.
[19:00] <BarkingFish> "
[19:00] <froodonwheels> Pastebin pls
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[19:00] <jeremyb> ??????
[19:00] <froodonwheels> Flooding triggers AntiSpamMeta
[19:00] <wctaiwan> eh, I need to go. I'll let others take a look.
[19:00] <kylu> more important than quoting charters and laws, it's enforced: http://seattletrademarklawyer.com/
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[19:02] <kylu> though if you want U.S. law rather than the charter, http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/220506
[19:03] <BarkingFish> I disagree that something can be public domain when an organization can claim that it owns all the rights to the item and its usage...
[19:03] <kylu> Wait until the USOC files suit with the WMF, then.
[19:03] <froodonwheels> It's not . They can renew copyright
[19:04] <kylu> not a copyright issue. x.x
[19:04] <BarkingFish> kylu, i think it's better that we act on it prior to getting sued :)
[19:06] <kylu> BarkingFish: I've developed an appreciation for reading legal claims, lately... except those which pertain to work.
[19:06] <kylu> For some reason, simply being paid to be familiar with one seems to take the fun out of it.
[19:08] <kylu> for the UK folks, there's also:  Olympic Symbol etc. (Protection) Act 1995 (OSPA)
[19:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish Olympic logo is too simple for us to care
[19:09] <kylu> Similar to the US 36 USC 220506.
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[19:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> this has been discussed to death before
[19:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> please refer to it :)
[19:09] <kylu> {{citation needed}}
[19:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> not really
�06[19:09] * kylu looks pointedly to ToAruShiroiNeko.
[19:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> this is an issue for commons
[19:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> not #wikipedia-en
[19:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> wikipedia should know its place and not analyse copyright of files :p
[19:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> commonism now!
[19:10] <kylu> That file is locally hosted on wp-en also.
[19:10] <BarkingFish> that makes it an en.wp issue
[19:10] <kylu> so, got citation or do you feel like backing down, kitty?
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[19:11] <mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko:  yeah, yeah.  but when IOC sues us and the damages assessed will shut down Wikipedia, you'll sing a different tune. :)
[19:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug did we get a DMCA notice?
[19:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no?
[19:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> move along then.
[19:11] <kylu> also... it's not a bloody copyright issue, it's SIMILAR to a trademark issue, but different as it has its very own law.
[19:12] <kylu> DMCA refers to copyright, not trademark.
[19:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> kylu I am not seriously saying it cant be discussed here :p
[19:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> trademarks are irrelevant as far as we care
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[19:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> we have no procedure to enforce trademark
[19:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> we made a point to denote trademark but like money thats not a retriction we should care too much about
[19:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> coca cola logo is PD but trademarked
�06[19:13] * Isarra pelts the channel with potatos.
[19:13] <kylu> That's lovely, but again, it's not a pure trademark issue either.
[19:14] <mareklug> Isarra:  did you know that in Peru they have 500 kinda of potato?
[19:14] <mareklug> kinds
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[19:14] <Isarra> They must really like potatoes.
[19:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> kylu I'd like to see the court case where foundation is sued for portraying the olympic logo
[19:14] <mareklug> they do.  they came up w/ them
[19:14] <Frostee> I love potatoes
[19:14] <Frostee> in chip form
[19:14] <kylu> As I said, both the symbols for the Red Cross/Red Crescent and the Olympics are protected by super-duper special laws that only apply to them.
[19:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> kylu sure
[19:15] <kylu> ToAruShiroiNeko: Nah, WMF would fold.
[19:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> secondary uses may infringe/violate such laws
[19:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> kylu sure, WMF may bend over when the time comes
[19:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but the time has not come
[19:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> also
[19:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> bear in mind that olympic logo is used all over the place
[19:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> commercially
[19:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> and no one complains
[19:16] <Qcoder02> Erm
[19:16] <Qcoder02> Not in the UK
[19:16] <Qcoder02> They sent a load of people out ot make sure
[19:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> any photo of the london bridge on any newspaper infringes trademark and copyright
[19:16] <Qcoder02> ;)
[19:16] <mareklug> kylu:  i'm kinda fond of the educational angle of us having the rings graphic.  let's be conservative on getting rid of it unprompted
[19:16] <kylu> mareklug: Don't misunderstand, I don't think there's a need to be rid of the graphic...
[19:17] <Guerillero> i agree
[19:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but olympic comittee arent a bunch of dickheads to sue all newspapers
[19:17] <kylu> I take exception with there being a PD tag on it and our having stupid readers who may assume the wrong thing.
[19:17] <kylu> ToAruShiroiNeko: Just cab companies. :)
[19:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> kylu indeed thats why I reccomend putting {{trademakred}} below it
[19:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> or above it
[19:17] <mareklug> but pd tag is what keeps it on commons
[19:17] <kylu> 'Cept it's not really trademarked, strictly.
[19:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it is trademarked
[19:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> people pay money to be able to put the olympic logo on their products during the olympics
[19:18] <kylu> Nope, it's enforced via trademark laws, but it's not a registered trademark... they have their own law and own enforcement, and it can be licensed similarly.
[19:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> trademarks do not have to be registered
�06[19:19] * kylu facepalms.
[19:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont care about TM v (R) issues
�06[19:19] * ToAruShiroiNeko gets a coconut from kylu's facepalm tree
[19:19] <kylu> y'know what... you're reading the parts of the argument that you want to read and ignoring the rest.
[19:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yup
[19:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> :p
[19:20] <kylu> As I'm no longer a WPian, I'm going to feel free to assume bad faith and regard you as a troll.
[19:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> as you wish
�06[19:20] * kylu goes back to reading.
[19:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am going to assume you are a kylu
[19:20] <mareklug> kylu:   but the template says what you said: "This work contains material which may be subject to trademark laws in one or more jurisdictions….."
[19:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> since you arent a wikipedian you have wasted my time, troll
[19:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug yeah
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[19:24] <ChrisGualtieri> Ahahah... TypoScan is in 100%+ scan mode
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[19:26] <Demiurge1000> kylu: Who were you on WP?
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[19:27] <kylu> ... kylu.
[19:28] <kylu> admin/checkuser on en, just about everything on meta, admin on commons, various other flags scattered about.
[19:28] <kylu> If you've not heard of me, you haven't missed much... in fact, count thy blessings.
[19:29] <Demiurge1000> Yeah, nothing at all. Eyes skimmed over name if I saw it at all. Enjoy real life! ;)
[19:29] <ChrisGualtieri> Well.. I'm done with the projects scan.. I think I've done something special
[19:30] <kylu> Demiurge1000: the problem with real life is that when you get out there and start doing things, you get these funny bulges in your arms and aren't quite interested in Hot Pockets anymore.
[19:31] <Demiurge1000> I heard some U.S. kid talking a lot about hot pockets last year. In an IRC channel about hurricanes. So yeah, I can imagine...
[19:32] <ToAruShiroiNeko> my pockets are hot
[19:32] <ChrisGualtieri> >.> I need work! Someone give me something to do
[19:32] <kylu> I never quite understood the attraction really.
[19:33] <Isarra> ChrisGualtieri: Explain notability to me.
[19:33] <Isarra> That should keep us both busy for a bit.
[19:33] <Isarra> :D
[19:33] <BarkingFish> well anyway, I really am gonna bugger off to bed now. Thanks anyway :)
[19:33] <BarkingFish> night all
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[19:33] <kylu> I keep a box in the freezer in case I'm ever in the mood for instant, fatty comfort food with laziness, but that's about as low on the scale as slicing my wrist anymore, so will probably pass.
[19:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ChrisGualtieri you can help me with templates
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[19:34] <kylu> Actually, it may well have similar health consequences.
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[19:35] <ChrisGualtieri> Weird I crashed
[19:35] <Demiurge1000> ChrisGualtieri: Join #wikipedia-en-helpers and I will find you something to do
[19:35] <Isarra> WP:N will do that.
[19:35] <ChrisGualtieri> Oi >.> least you heard me
[19:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ChrisGualtieri you can help me with templates
[19:36] <ChrisGualtieri> Templates are scary, if I do those I'd crash Wikipedia
[19:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> even a monkey can preform edits like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMembership%2FData%2FBurma&diff=503075130&oldid=501854159
[19:37] <mareklug> ChrisGualtieri:  you could construct the new template kylu suggests the ioc rings logo needs.  ask him nicely for wording
[19:38] <ChrisGualtieri> Hehe Ok, let me get these COI ones out quick
[19:38] <Demiurge1000> No, do them slowly.
[19:38] <Demiurge1000> And do them right.
[19:38] <Demiurge1000> If you don't know what you're doing, skip that one and go on to the next one.
[19:39] <Demiurge1000> Remember, them having requested it is NOT a reason for you doing it. If it were like that, they would be allowed to do it themselves.
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[19:42] <Isarra> Crashing wikipedia isn't necessarilly bad.
[19:42] <Isarra> Sometimes it highlights issues that need to be resolved, and better resolve them sooner rather than later when they could do even more damage.
[19:42] <Demiurge1000> Is 9/11 similar to that?
[19:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug uneeded
[19:43] <Dragonfly6-7> chew off your own arms
[19:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> dont need template for everything
[19:46] <kylu> ChrisGualtieri: you can ask mareklug if you'd like.
[19:46] <kylu> ciao.
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[19:51] <Isarra> Demiurge1000: Yes.
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[19:52] <Dcoetzee> Isarra: Spoken like a true grey hat :-P
[19:53] <Isarra> A what?
[19:53] <SigmaWP> [[Gray hat (computer security)]]
[19:53] <Dcoetzee> Isarra: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_hat
[19:54] <Isarra> You're very helpful.
[19:54] <SigmaWP> Dcoetzee: Gray or grey?
[19:54] <mareklug> ChrisGualtieri:  may i pm?
[19:54] <Dcoetzee> SigmaWP: Depends only whether you're in the US :-P
[19:54] <SigmaWP> I mean on WP
[19:55] <Dcoetzee> SigmaWP: WP:ENGVAR applies here I think
[19:55] <SigmaWP> WP:GRAY doesn't give anything useful, unfortunately
�06[19:55] * SigmaWP czechs engvar
[19:56] <Isarra> We should use aussie english more.
[19:56] <SigmaWP> We should just use a site-wide script that randomises the spelling every time you refresh
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[19:58] <Dcoetzee> WP:ENGVAR is interesting because it's one of our oldest guidelines, and dates to a time when edit wars over these things were common.
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[19:58] <Dcoetzee> At its heart all it really says is "guys don't fight about this" :-P
[19:59] <Guerillero> hmmm
[19:59] <SigmaWP> Site-wide script it is! :D
[19:59] <Shirik> also american english is the best
�06[19:59] * Dcoetzee facepalms :-)
[19:59] <froodonwheels> Your opinion is invalid.
[19:59] <Shirik> I am Shirik
[19:59] <Pharos> maybe it was better when more of the figts were about meaningless stuff
[19:59] <Shirik> my opinion is the only one that matters
[19:59] <SigmaWP> Your opinion is rolling off a cliff.
[19:59] <froodonwheels> Okay.
[19:59] <Dcoetzee> I tend to write solely in NZ English these days unless I'm speaking to an American who I think might be confused. :-P
[20:00] <froodonwheels> It's still invalid.
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[20:00] <jorm> americans get confused by a lot of stuff fairly easily.
[20:00] <Pharos> lies
[20:00] <Dcoetzee> Americans know about "colour" and "flavour" but when they see "realise" they freak out.
[20:01] <Dragonfly6-7> I'm Canadian, and I'm still bothered by "gaol"
[20:01] <Guerillero> do you think it would be a good idea to write an article about "lax bro" culture
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[20:01] <Dcoetzee> "gaol" is a very strange word :-P
[20:01] <SigmaWP> Dragonfly6-7: How do you pronounce that
[20:01] <Dcoetzee> SigmaWP: "jail"
[20:01] <SigmaWP> o_O
[20:01] <Dcoetzee> ...I prefer the US spelling on that one
[20:02] <Pharos> there should be a UN treaty abolishing that spelling
[20:02] <SigmaWP> Agreed
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[20:02] <Dcoetzee> Life is so much simpler in Estonian with theire purely phonetic spelling.
[20:02] <Dcoetzee> *their
[20:02] <SigmaWP> I bet ClueBot has reverted additions of gaol a thousand times
[20:03] <Dcoetzee> Estonian orthography is regular because it was invented by like one guy in the 50s. I wonder if English writing would be less fucked up if we had the benefit of hindsight when we came up with it.
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[20:05] <Pharos> a big problem would be incompatibility with old texts
[20:06] <Pharos> unless you want to pull an Ataturk intentionally
[20:06] <Dragonfly6-7> and dialects and accents
[20:06] <SigmaWP> Everyone should just start speaking Burmese
[20:06] <mareklug> Dcoetzee:  "gaol" pronunciation must be some sort of a curiosity, as we have "gale", "gallop", "gallant"
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[20:07] <Dcoetzee> mareklug: Soft G is not uncommon. Consider giraffe, gentle, giant, gerbil, gestate, ginger, ...
[20:07] <jorm> you know, it's never the spellings that get me goofed.  it's the words.
[20:08] <jorm> petrol v. gas.  lift v. elevator.
[20:08] <Dcoetzee> Soft G followed by "a" is unusual these days though.
[20:08] <mareklug> Dcoetzee:  none of them "ga" words
[20:08] <Dcoetzee> jorm: Also rubber v. condom trips up a lot of people.
[20:08] <SigmaWP> jorm: New page petrolling! :D
[20:08] <Dragonfly6-7> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballad_of_Reading_Gaol\
[20:08] <Dragonfly6-7> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballad_of_Reading_Gaol>  rather
[20:08] <Dcoetzee> vs rubber v. eraser
[20:08] <jorm> i grew up with rubber and condom being synonymous.
[20:08] <jorm> but never heard "rubber" for "eraser"
[20:08] <Dragonfly6-7> rubber = overshoes
[20:09] <Dragonfly6-7> rubber = eraser
[20:09] <Dragonfly6-7> rubber = frotteur
[20:09] <Dcoetzee> Ambiguity!
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[20:09] <Dcoetzee> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rubber And there's more where that came from
[20:09] <jorm> auto v. car
[20:09] <Dcoetzee> A check that isn't covered is called a rubber too
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[20:09] <Dragonfly6-7> polysemy is so cool
[20:10] <Dcoetzee> Also racing tires
[20:10] <Dragonfly6-7> "a rubber of bridge"
[20:10] <Dcoetzee> That too :-P
[20:10] <Dcoetzee> It probably has the most definitions of any noun I've heard of.
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[20:10] <Dragonfly6-7> Dcoetzee - how about "set" ?
[20:10] <Dcoetzee> Dragonfly6-7: set has more defs but less as a noun
[20:11] <Dcoetzee> If we're counting verbs I believe "run" is the winner
[20:11] <Dcoetzee> (especially if you include idioms!)
[20:11] <Dragonfly6-7> get
[20:12] <Dcoetzee> Dragonfly6-7: ...wow quite a lot on that one too
[20:12] <Dcoetzee> Dragonfly6-7: run still has more :-)
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�06[20:55] * kim_bruning pokes mindspillage: How do you eat your corn? ;-) http://bentilly.blogspot.nl/2010/08/analysis-vs-algebra-predicts-eating.html
[20:57] <mindspillage> kim_bruning: that is hilarious (and I eat in rows, sometimes one kernel at a time).
[20:58] <mindspillage> I enjoy food that can be separated into discrete parts.
[20:58] <kim_bruning> <grin> Does their prediction hold?
[20:58] <kim_bruning> you're a very digital kind of person then? ;-)
[20:59] <mindspillage> basically. :-)
[20:59] <ChrisGualtieri> I've got a weird question. Is it OK to specifically remove links that are like this [[Article 1|Article 1]] so that they are just [[Article 1]]?
[21:00] <kim_bruning> ChrisGualtieri, yeah, that much is aok
[21:00] <kim_bruning> ChrisGualtieri, though it requires a certain level of OCD to want to ;-)
[21:01] <kim_bruning> (wikimania probably had a very high percentage of OCD sufferers. ;-)
�06[21:02] * Isarra takes kim_bruning's glasses, paints them green, and then puts them on the back of his head.
[21:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BREAKING NEWS! Mitt Romney’s campaign has announced that Romney will reveal his U.S. vice presidential nominee Saturday.  !!!!!
[21:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> OMG
[21:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its breaking my concentration
[21:02] <TeeTylerToe> generic republican candidate?
[21:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm
[21:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they didnt specify which saturday
[21:03] <TeeTylerToe> sounds like he's desparate to break the news cycle
[21:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> OMGWTFBBQ NEWS!
[21:03] <kim_bruning> Isarra, what's that good for? If you had colored them rose-colored, at least the eyes in the back of my head have had a rose-colored view ;-)
[21:03] <kim_bruning> It's saturday here now, he should get on with it
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[21:04] <wctaiwan> kim_bruning is a guy?
[21:04] <wctaiwan> >.>
[21:04] <Isarra> I was checking for an OCD response.
[21:04] <Isarra> He has a shiny forehead and everything!
[21:05] <jorm> yeah, it's actually weird that he is going to announce on "trash day"
[21:05] <Isarra> Then again, I have a shiny forehead too, so that's not really saying much.
[21:05] <kim_bruning> Isarra, see, there you go and ruin another guy's dreams! :-P
[21:06] <kim_bruning> Isarra, on the internet, nobody knows you're really a dog and all that. ;-)
[21:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Isarra, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsnRQJxanVM
[21:07] <Isarra> kim_bruning: Sssshh! People might get suspicious.
[21:07] <kim_bruning> Isarra, interesting btw, what would the OCD response have been? :-)
[21:07] <wctaiwan> kim_bruning: you like matte foreheads? ....
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[21:07] <ChrisGualtieri> Same applies to category duplication, right?
[21:07] <Isarra> No idea.
[21:08] <Isarra> That's why it would have been interesting!
[21:08] <kim_bruning> Isarra, :-P
[21:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> TeeTylerToe I expect Alduin to be Romney's running mate
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[21:09] <kim_bruning> ToAruShiroiNeko, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY3MFs7NptE
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[21:09] <kim_bruning> ToAruShiroiNeko, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FLQ4rACE-0
[21:10] <kim_bruning> ToAruShiroiNeko, Ok, and this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSLPH9d-jsI&feature=related
[21:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Romney - Alduin 2012
[21:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> kim_bruning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD8GmRjWGV4
[21:11] <kim_bruning> Vote Cthulu for president. Why vote for a LESSER evil?
[21:12] <wctaiwan> Cthulu is the president of Chiron Beta Prime.
[21:12] <kim_bruning> ToAruShiroiNeko, Eh, Suddenly switching to Miku Hatsune?
[21:12] <kim_bruning> ohai wctaiwan btw
[21:12] <wctaiwan> hello.
[21:12] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, where are you actually located?
[21:12] <wctaiwan> Taiwan.
[21:13] <kim_bruning> *doh*
[21:13] <kim_bruning> wait, I was at wikimania taipei. You didn't go?
�06[21:13] * kim_bruning scratches head
[21:13] <wctaiwan> I wasn't a wikipedian until mid-2011ish.
[21:13] <kim_bruning> Otay
[21:13] <wctaiwan> and I would have been young. Like, really young :p
[21:13] <kim_bruning> oh well, maybe we'll meet in hong kong? :-P
[21:14] <wctaiwan> iff. Isarra and Ironholds get their way.
[21:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> kim_bruning of course
[21:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Miku is the true dragon born
[21:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> she can SHOUT
�06[21:14] * Isarra grins at wctaiwan.
[21:14] <kim_bruning> ToAruShiroiNeko, srsly?
[21:14] <kim_bruning> Isarra, what's the plan?
[21:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Oh!
[21:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Miku as running mate for Romney
[21:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Generic hologram candidate
[21:15] <kim_bruning> ToAruShiroiNeko, strictly speaking, it wouldn't be a sockpuppet :-P
[21:16] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, just note that *some* folks at wikimania, the best way to communicate was to sit next to them, open your laptop, and chat with them that way
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[21:16] <wctaiwan> might be true for me really.
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[21:16] <wctaiwan> I met up with a couple of online people a week or so ago. It didn't go over well >.>
�06[21:17] * Peter-C licks wctaiwan
[21:18] <wctaiwan> my skin may or may not be poisonous to rabid dogs.
[21:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no but it would be the best running mate for romney
[21:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> better than palin since miku has been to more countries than her
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[21:23] <Isarra> kim_bruning: We intend to kidnap wctaiwan and force him to come to wikimania if we can.
[21:23] <kim_bruning> Isarra, awesome. You're going to taiwan first then?
[21:23] <kim_bruning> It's a very pretty country
[21:23] <Isarra> ell, in theory.
[21:23] <Isarra> W
[21:23] <Isarra> >.>
[21:24] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, what happened between you and the $random online people?
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[21:24] <harej> Paul Ryan, everyone!
[21:25] <Isarra> Wot?
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[21:27] <wctaiwan> kim_bruning: awkward silence; lots of it.
�06[21:27] * Isarra recalls certain skype calls and starts giggling.
�06[21:27] * Frostee throws skype at Isarra
[21:28] <wctaiwan> reinforcing how bad it was was that after he returned to his hotel and I my house, we talked online just fine, about how his hotel wifi was probably insecure and monitored. I even tried to offer some advice on how to get VPN to work (we didn't manage).
[21:28] <wctaiwan> (that's one of them. There were two people)
[21:28] <wctaiwan> basically I can talk to people online just fine but IRL it falls apart :p
[21:28] <Isarra> But with wikipedians, it could go even better!
[21:29] <Isarra> Instead of listening to each other type to each other over skype, you could sit next to each other and type to each other!
[21:29] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, ah, right. did you break out the laptops?
[21:29] <wctaiwan> we did, but we didn't have internet :(
[21:29] <TeeTylerToe> What we have here is a failure to vpn!
[21:30] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, pro tip, in future, make sure you have wifi around
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[21:30] <kim_bruning> but yeah, it happens ;-)
[21:31] <wctaiwan> heheh.
[21:31] <kim_bruning> it also helps to have a few extroverted types around
[21:31] <TeeTylerToe> if you're chatting over irc you can either directly do ssl to a irc server that supports it, like freenode, or you can ssl to mibbit to connect to the irc server
[21:31] <kim_bruning> some exist, just to facilitate communication ;-)
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[21:31] <kim_bruning> TeeTylerToe, OR you can use ssh and talk
[21:32] <kim_bruning> or ssh and ircii to a local ircd. but that's just silly
[21:32] <kim_bruning> effective though ;-)
[21:32] <wctaiwan> mibbit is blocked on freenode, fwiw.
[21:32] <kim_bruning> or ssh tunnel to a local ircd ....
[21:32] <TeeTylerToe> but you can connect through ssh to freenode without mibbit
[21:33] <wctaiwan> yeah.
[21:33] <TeeTylerToe> you could even, I suppose, ssh to a java irc app
[21:33] <TeeTylerToe> actually no that probably wouldn't work
[21:33] <wctaiwan> well, VPN generally works.
[21:34] <TeeTylerToe> there are easier alternatives
[21:34] <TeeTylerToe> imo
[21:34] <wctaiwan> I have been contemplating whether I should install my uni's VPN software on my work computer >.>
[21:34] <TeeTylerToe> althought not if you want to run squid =[
[21:34] <wctaiwan> their proxy blocks a bunch of stuff and breaks a bunch of others.
[21:35] <TeeTylerToe> you'd think that if you wanted to run squid at home when you're traveling it would be easy to connect to it with ssl
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[21:36] <wctaiwan> Frostee: how did you end up on this desolate part of the internet?
[21:36] <kim_bruning> TeeTylerToe, I run ssh . How did you guess? ;-)
[21:36] <TeeTylerToe> ?
[21:37] <Frostee> *Type /join #wikipedia-en
[21:37] <TeeTylerToe> for squid?
[21:37] <Frostee> PROFIT
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[21:38] <kim_bruning> go direct to PROFIT, do go past start, do collect $200
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�06[21:43] * Frostee throws $200 at Isarra
�06[21:43] * Frostee throws the universe at Isarra
�06[21:44] * Isarra kidnaps Frostee.
[21:44] <Frostee> implying you know where I live
�06[21:44] * kim_bruning figures Frostee must have a very large lever (and a great fulcrum)
[21:44] <kim_bruning> to be able to throw the entire universe
[21:45] <kim_bruning> Isarra, you kidnap All The People? ;-)
�06[21:45] * Peter-C licks kim_bruning
[21:45] <Isarra> kim_bruning: I need a constant supply of parts.
[21:45] <kim_bruning> Peter-C, mmm, vanilla
[21:45] <Isarra> And I'm sure I could find you, Frostee.
[21:46] <kim_bruning> FrankenIsarra?
[21:46] <Frostee> HA! good luck
[21:46] <kim_bruning> Peter-C, what's up doc?
[21:47] <Peter-C> Your weight
�06[21:47] * Peter-C runs
[21:47] <kim_bruning> eh, only a few kilo's!
�06[21:47] * kim_bruning chases Peter-C down and sits on them :-P:
[21:47] <Peter-C> D:
�06[21:47] * Peter-C drags Isarra down with him
[21:51] <Isarra> Peter-C weighs more than I do.
[21:51] <Peter-C> {{cn}}
[21:53] <ChrisGualtieri> Yeah, these interwiki links that redirect to the article you are already viewing are annoying.
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[22:01] <SigmaWP> Is concatenation faster than joining?
[22:04] <kim_bruning> SigmaWP, in which context?
[22:04] <SigmaWP> Python
�06[22:04] * Peter-C licks SigmaWP
[22:05] <kim_bruning> if you're coding python, you generally shouldn't ask that question ;-)
[22:05] <kim_bruning> But give me an example?
[22:05] <Peter-C> kim_bruning - you code?
[22:05] <kim_bruning> And whence the question?
[22:06] <kim_bruning> Peter-C, errr, fluently, I guess.
[22:06] <wctaiwan> SigmaWP: I started learning python because I have nothing to do at work
[22:06] <SigmaWP> Yay!
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[22:06] <kim_bruning> Peter-C, the devs have known for years now. it's highly annoying. I can never wheedle for them to write stuff for me anymore :-P
[22:06] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, python ftw. Keep learning. you'
[22:06] <SigmaWP> wctaiwan: Now you can ask Earwig questions :D
[22:06] <kim_bruning> d probably be busy after summer? ;-)
[22:07] <kim_bruning> SigmaWP, those questions were @you btw? ;-)
[22:07] <wctaiwan> probably yeah, class.
[22:07] <jorm> hooray!
[22:07] <SigmaWP> kim_bruning: http_scheme + "://" + http_host, or "://".join(http_scheme, http_host)
[22:07] <kim_bruning> SigmaWP,  you're looking at this? http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/python_string/
[22:07] <SigmaWP> Nope
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[22:07] <SigmaWP> Ewwww he's using backquotes
[22:07] <kim_bruning> SigmaWP, here's a question for you.... how many thousands of times per second are you doing that operation?
[22:08] <SigmaWP> kim_bruning: Once every __init__()
[22:08] <SigmaWP> Wait what
[22:08] <kim_bruning> SigmaWP, ha, init of what? you're instantiating it a zillion times in a tight loop? ;-)
[22:08] <kim_bruning> SigmaWP, permature optimization is the root of all evil ;-)
[22:08] <kim_bruning> SigmaWP, premature too
[22:09] <kim_bruning> SigmaWP, the fastest is whatever makes it easier for you and other to read it
[22:09] <wctaiwan> I think he's more asking (as I often to, when coding ><) "which is the conventional way to do it?"
[22:09] <SigmaWP> Amazing
[22:09] <SigmaWP> Concatenation was 6 times faster
[22:09] <wctaiwan> o.O
[22:09] <wctaiwan> what are you timing with?
[22:10] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, no, I'm asking if sigmawp is actually somewhere in a tight loop, profiled it, and now is trying to get the last ounce of performance out
[22:10] <SigmaWP> python -mtimeit "code goes here"
[22:10] <wctaiwan> oh.
[22:10] <kim_bruning> as opposed to just writing stuff for usefulness ;-)
[22:10] <wctaiwan> kim_bruning: I thought python wasn't for that kind of projects anyway..
[22:10] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, <grin>
[22:11] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, although I did see someone write some python code that was 1000 times faster than the equivalent C once ;-)
�06[22:11] * kim_bruning would have to search really hard to find it back on the intertubes ;-)
[22:11] <wctaiwan> heh
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[22:12] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, the trick was that python has things like dictionaries built in, so a simple python program actually doesn't do too bad in the algorithms department
[22:12] <SigmaWP> Huh?
[22:12] <SigmaWP> Is that unix-like-y
�06[22:12] * wctaiwan stares at SigmaWP 
[22:12] <Isarra> Have I mentioned lately how much I absolutely adore you people?
[22:12] <SigmaWP> wctaiwan: What OS are you on
[22:12] <wctaiwan> SigmaWP: it's a mac IRC client
[22:12] <SigmaWP> Oh
[22:12] <SigmaWP> GOOD
[22:13] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, while a C coder needs to do their algorithms from scratch (and in this case the dude had picked a naive algo :-P)
�06[22:13] * kim_bruning hugs Isarra 
[22:13] <SigmaWP> wctaiwan: perl -e "$e .= `say 'coal balls'` while (1);"
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[22:13] <kim_bruning> Isarra, idem ditto
�06[22:13] * Isarra huggles kim_bruning.
[22:14] <Logan_> SigmaWP: Behave.
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[22:14] <SigmaWP> wctaiwan: Alternatively, python3 -c "import os; [os.system('say \"coal balls\"') for x in range(1238)]"
[22:14] <SigmaWP> 'say' is the only good thing that comes on a Mac
[22:15] <kim_bruning> aptitude install festival
[22:15] <kim_bruning> cat > say.bash
[22:15] <kim_bruning> #!/bin/bash
[22:15] <kim_bruning> echo "$@" | festival --tts
[22:15] <kim_bruning> ^D
[22:15] <kim_bruning> chmod +x say.bash
[22:15] <kim_bruning> ./say.bash "hello world"
[22:16] <kim_bruning> you can also leave off the .bash if you want to be more maccy :-P
[22:16] <Logan_> SigmaWP: I hope you've read all of these: http://www.tsop.org/refs/coalball.htm
[22:17] <SigmaWP> Logan_: I have.
[22:17] <SigmaWP> The ones that were readable
�06[22:17] * SigmaWP had that bookmarked for months now
[22:17] <wctaiwan> kim_bruning: I saw some awesome code recently, hold on, let me type it into some pastebin
�06[22:17] * Logan_ looks for new requests at WP:RX
[22:18] <kim_bruning> your awesome code fits in a pastebin?
[22:18] <kim_bruning> Hmmm
[22:18] <wctaiwan> "awesome"
[22:18] <kim_bruning> meh, maybe it is ;-)
[22:18] <wctaiwan> it's the "holy crap what is this I don't even" kind of awesome.
[22:18] <kim_bruning> so show me already!
�06[22:18] * kim_bruning is curious. :-)
�06[22:18] * kim_bruning also has rather less than 9 lives :-P
[22:19] <wctaiwan> kim_bruning: http://pastebin.ca/2179173
[22:20] <wctaiwan> that was from a blog post written by someone who actually saw this kind of code from a self-taught programmer
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[22:20] <wctaiwan> er sorry
[22:20] <wctaiwan> should have been i -= 2;
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[22:21] <kim_bruning> http://pastebin.ca/2179175
[22:21] <wctaiwan> yeah, like that.
[22:21] <kim_bruning> oh, there's a fun one.
[22:22] <kim_bruning> http://pastebin.ca/2179176
[22:22] <kim_bruning> here's mine
[22:22] <kim_bruning> (not tested)
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[22:23] <wctaiwan> I'm not a C++ person (and I hate bitwise operations :p) so I'm not sure how it'll be casted, but I can see what you did there.
[22:23] <kim_bruning> (it's the 2nd one)
[22:23] <wctaiwan> yeah, I know :p
[22:23] <TeeTylerToe> ?
�06[22:23] * kim_bruning isn't a C person, and I forgot about casting... I figure the 1 will be treated as int
[22:24] <kim_bruning> I'd need to cast :-P
[22:24] <TeeTylerToe> ah, why not just do mod 2?
[22:24] <wctaiwan> TeeTylerToe: That's the point. Apparently someone actually wrote code like that first function there.
[22:25] <SigmaWP> wctaiwan: is_odd = lambda x: x % 2
[22:25] <wctaiwan> when return i % 2; would have done the job.
[22:25] <kim_bruning> TeeTylerToe, you tell me why it's easier to &1 than %2 ? ;-)
[22:25] <TeeTylerToe> how is that cool?
[22:25] <wctaiwan> kim_bruning: <kim_bruning> SigmaWP, permature optimization is the root of all evil ;-)
[22:25] <wctaiwan> :P
[22:25] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, oh, true
[22:25] <kim_bruning> but I'm thinking C/ASM now ;-)
[22:25] <TeeTylerToe> does &1 check to see of the lsb =1?
[22:26] <kim_bruning> TeeTylerToe, yes ;-)
[22:26] <TeeTylerToe> YOU FIEND!
[22:26] <kim_bruning> the %2 might need some microcode :-P
[22:26] <wctaiwan> still stands really. At least our professors taught it that way—don't do stuff that you _think_ will optimise the program, when most of the time the compiler is better than you at that.
[22:26] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, of course. ;-)
[22:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> kim_bruning its like in skyrim
[22:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko> dual casting in C is more effective
[22:27] <wctaiwan> (that's of course excepting things like string search)
[22:27] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, otoh I think differently in different languages ;-)
[22:27] <TeeTylerToe> I'm pretty sure the selftaught guy disproved your professor
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[22:27] <wctaiwan> I think in English when I'm typing in english...
[22:27] <wctaiwan> TeeTylerToe: that's not not optimising, that's "what is this I don't even..."
�06[22:27] * kim_bruning is humbled. I should learn to think the same way in different computer languages
[22:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> what is the point of http://pastebin.ca/2179173 code?
[22:28] <wctaiwan> why should we? I thought it's perfectly normal? I mean, trying to code VBA as a C programmer hasn't been easy >.>
[22:28] <kim_bruning> int round (float x):
[22:28] <kim_bruning> errr.. .that won't work
[22:28] <SigmaWP> wctaiwan: Oh yeah, python 2 or 3?
[22:29] <kim_bruning> int round(float x) { return (int) (x+0.5); }
[22:29] <wctaiwan> SigmaWP: I'm learning with the tutorial in the docs for 3, but I'm wondering about that.
[22:29] <SigmaWP> Python 3 is good
[22:29] <wctaiwan> Django doesn't support 3 and won't for a few months yet.
[22:29] <kim_bruning> wctaiwan, there's not a huge diff in  practice
[22:29] <SigmaWP> Python 2 is full of stupid shit
[22:29] <kim_bruning> SigmaWP, I do miss print
[22:29] <kim_bruning> :-P
[22:29] <kim_bruning> now it's print ()
[22:29] <kim_bruning> geh
[22:30] <SigmaWP> kim_bruning: print >>sys.stdout, "your mom", "is a coal ball",
[22:30] <wctaiwan> yeah I figured I'd cross that bridge when I got to it. Shouldn't be too hard to wrap one's head around the differences, aye?
[22:30] <kim_bruning> (notice how I managed to mix python and c syntax first time. Why can't all languages be sane? ;-)
[22:30] <SigmaWP> kim_bruning: print("your mom", "is a coal ball", sep=" ", file=sys.stdout, end="\n")
[22:30] <Earwig> ewwww
[22:30] <SigmaWP> EARWIG IS A COAL BALL HATER
[22:31] <Earwig> SigmaWP: I just closed EarwigBot issues #1 and #2
[22:31] <Logan_> Don't be a hater.
[22:31] <Earwig> I'm awesome.
[22:31] <Logan_> False.
[22:31] <SigmaWP> Earwig: What were they
[22:31] <kim_bruning> SigmaWP, maybe Earwig just hates your mom
[22:31] <Earwig> SigmaWP: creating new config files from scratch and modifying bot permissions from IRC.
[22:31] <Earwig> so now people can actually like
[22:31] <Earwig> run the bot >_>
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[22:31] <Logan_> :D
[22:31] <SigmaWP> Do you raise the issues yourself or does someone actually try the bot and ask for something :P
[22:32] <Earwig> I have a friend who tests stuff and has commented on issues
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[22:32] <Theopolisme> Heck, who tries� bots anymore? SOOOO 20th century
[22:32] <Earwig> I've had two or three pull reqs so far
[22:32] <Earwig> but yeah
[22:32] <Earwig> mostly me created issues as a tracking system
[22:32] <Theopolisme> Just let them run on the mainpage and see what happens xD
[22:32] <Earwig> *creating
[22:32] <Peter-C> bomb!
�06[22:32] * Peter-C tackles Earwig
[22:32] <Earwig> no
�06[22:33] * Theopolisme looks on
[22:33] <Peter-C> :(
[22:34] <SigmaWP> Earwig: http://docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/index.html
[22:34] <SigmaWP> It's a Kenneth Reitz project :D
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[22:34] <Earwig> uh
[22:35] <Earwig> oh gosh
[22:35] <Earwig> http://docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/starting/which-python/#which-python-to-support
[22:35] <Earwig> why not 2.7?
[22:35] <SigmaWP> Fork it and add 2.7
[22:35] <SigmaWP> Wait what
[22:36] <Earwig> well there's probably a reason why
[22:36] <SigmaWP> If you’re choosing a Python interpreter to use, I highly recommend you Use Python 2.7.x, unless you have a strong reason not to.
[22:36] <SigmaWP> Right above.... ._.
[22:36] <Earwig> yeah, someone fails
[22:37] <SigmaWP> wctaiwan: Python 3 is the shiny one
[22:37] <SigmaWP> Stay with it :D
[22:38] <kim_bruning> SigmaWP, dude, python3 has much more solid utf8 support
[22:38] <SigmaWP> YES
[22:39] <SigmaWP> PHP has no unicode support at all
[22:39] <kim_bruning> unicode support even
[22:39] <SigmaWP> Even perl does better than it
[22:39] <kim_bruning> SigmaWP, well php does unicode something, because mediawiki works aok :-P
[22:39] <kim_bruning> maybe I'm suppressing the pain though, who knows
[22:39] <wctaiwan> PHP does unicode fine >.>
[22:39] <SigmaWP> It's probably a Tim Starling hack™
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[22:46] <morgankevinj> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Blocks_and_protections#File:Tower.jpg what problem is the tower.jpeg redirect causing
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[22:55] <kim_bruning> morgankevinj, would #wikimedia-otrs know?
[22:55] <kim_bruning> typically otrs supplies a ticket number, which they didn't do here...
[22:57] <morgankevinj> I have access to otrs but there is no clear way to find the emial based on the information in the request
[22:59] <kim_bruning> no kidding. <scratches head>
[22:59] <kim_bruning> I guess you'll have to ask the original poster what they mean. ^^;;
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[23:18] <SigmaWP> wctaiwan: Are you good at python yet?
[23:19] <Peter-C> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Little_Miss_Muffet_2_-_WW_Denslow_-_Project_Gutenberg_etext_18546.jpg
[23:19] <Peter-C> da fuq
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[23:23] <wctaiwan> SigmaWP: course not
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[23:27] <Peter-C> I wanna be a traffic cop
[23:27] <Peter-C> I would totally crack down on violations
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[23:28] <TeeTylerToe> what kind of violations?
[23:28] <Peter-C> Failing to signal
[23:29] <Peter-C> Parking tickets
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[23:29] <Peter-C> I would gain warrents and run around with an M4
[23:29] <Peter-C> It will be legendary.
[23:31] <Earwig> I consider this prima facie evidence of power hunger.
[23:31] <Peter-C> No.
[23:31] <SigmaWP> Is Istanbul on the East or West part of Turkey?
[23:31] <SigmaWP> The map is too crappy for me to tell
[23:31] <Earwig> SigmaWP: looks pretty far West to me
[23:31] <Peter-C> It would be me enforcing the law at a higher standard.
[23:31] <Peter-C> Istanbul was Constantanople
[23:32] <SigmaWP> Earwig: I mean, on Asia Minor or that-mini-peninsula-on-eastern-europe
[23:32] <Peter-C> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQ-wjDH4F4
[23:32] <Earwig> er
[23:32] <haggis> Earwig: poke
[23:33] <Earwig> sorry
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[23:33] <SigmaWP> I'll just put it in the middle
[23:34] <SigmaWP> Peter-C: Unignore haggis
[23:34] <Peter-C> what do you want haggis
[23:34] <Peter-C> wait
[23:34] <Peter-C> one sec
[23:35] <Peter-C> no talk
[23:35] <Peter-C> *now
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[23:36] <Peter-C> :/
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[23:37] <haggis> Peter-C: hello?
[23:38] <Peter-C> haggis - are you going to say something :/
[23:40] <haggis> Peter-C: did you see my PM?
[23:43] <Sp33dyphil> Logan_: hi
[23:43] <Logan_> Hi Sp33dyphil.
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[23:45] <haggis> Sp33dyphil! hello!
[23:46] <Sp33dyphil> haggis: hey bud
[23:46] <Sp33dyphil> how's it going?
[23:46] <Sp33dyphil> gtg for now, chat to ya later
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[23:47] <Peter-C> haggis - did you say anything....
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[23:47] <haggis> SigmaWP: help me out here :-P
[23:48] <Peter-C> Now I see you
[23:48] <Peter-C> :/
[23:49] <Peter-C> haggis - what do you want
[23:48] <TeeTylerToe> I'm guessing some sort of spiced meat product enclosed in some kind of tubing
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[00:18] <SigmaWP> Good bye
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[00:57] <Mdann52> Morning
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[01:42] <wctaiwan> o/ foks
[01:43] <foks> Hiya
[01:46] <foks> gold for gb in the canoe sprint woo
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[01:52] <Ironholds> evening people
[01:52] <BlastHardcheese> I thought the Canadians were the ones with the canoes
[01:53] <Ironholds> ...that probably makes sense in context
[01:53] <wctaiwan> evening, Ironholds. (but isn't it morning over in UK land?)
[01:54] <Ironholds> sure, but I'm in SF
[01:54] <Ironholds> where it is, technically, morning actually
[01:54] <wctaiwan> Oh.
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[01:59] <Ironholds> hey, Sp33dyphil
[01:59] <Sp33dyphil> hi, what's up?
[01:59] <Ironholds> nuthin' much; yourself?
[02:00] <Sp33dyphil> same, doing my usual things -- writing.
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[02:01] <Ironholds> cool :)
[02:01] <Sp33dyphil> Ironholds: have you been following tech news lately/
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[02:03] <Sp33dyphil> are you much of a copy editor?
[02:04] <Ironholds> Sp33dyphil: tech news? as in, in the wikimedia movement, or the big wide world?
[02:05] <Sp33dyphil> the latter
[02:05] <Ironholds> sometimes?
[02:05] <Sp33dyphil> coz I'm working on [[Nexus 7]], and I thought you could lend me a hand :)
[02:06] <Sp33dyphil> gotta go
[02:07] <Ironholds> heh. take care.
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[02:19] <foks> Is it quite common for Spanish people to have the same maternal and parental name?
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[02:19] <foks> Like this diver, German Sanchez Sanchez
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[02:49] <mareklug> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ic0z7lY9sFOhH3tmpl_duAcSmOPA?docId=12d8ea1abfd04adf93e08bdd1e327d34   "AP sources: Romney intends to name Ryan his No. 2"
[02:50] <Ironholds> that's kinda rude of him
[02:50] <Ironholds> I'd more describe Ryan as a thin streak of piss, and that's a No. 1
[02:52] <foks> so he's not going for the hispanic dude?
[02:52] <mareklug> we're supposed to have the announcement "on Saturday morning"   it's 5:49 now
[02:52] <foks> lies, it's 10:45
[02:53] <foks> *49
[02:54] <mareklug> i'm disappointed.  i'd think Condi Rice would've added real spice to the race
[02:54] <mareklug> after all, Romney is an idiot in international relations
[02:55] <Ironholds> and, y'know, about as appealing to ethnic minorities as a good lynching
[02:55] <Ironholds> although I would like it noted that he is also as appealing to me, as a white dude, as a good lynching.
[02:55] <Ironholds> i.e. not.
[02:56] <mareklug> it will still be a close election, but with the economy improving and unemployment going down, Obama wins it
�06[02:57] * foks isn't so sure
[02:57] <foks> I have very little faith in Americans during elections
[02:57] <foks> Too easy to buy their votes
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[02:57] <foks> (no offense of course)
[02:57] <mareklug> true, America is very divided
[02:59] <Tony_Sidaway> Divided States of America
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[11:46] #wikipedia-en url is https://en.wikipedia.org/
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[11:46] <mysterytrey> Nevertheless, we must kill you.
[11:46] <Rain777> haha
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[11:47] <mysterytrey> Hello there, Guest88818.  How are you today?
[11:47] <Rain777> since you guys are from the US, I have some questions to ask
[11:47] <Rain777> Im considering moving there next year
[11:47] <Dcoetzee> That explains why your English is pretty good.
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[11:48] <mysterytrey> We're from the US?
[11:49] <BlastHardcheese> fuck off we're full
[11:49] <Dcoetzee> :-P
[11:49] <Rain777> one of you at least...
[11:49] <Dcoetzee> Well I am, although I didn't say that, I'm West Coast US.
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[11:50] <mysterytrey> Dcoetzee: You should go to Iceland.  We welcome you.
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[11:50] <Rain777> I was about to ask where you are from, mystery
[11:51] <mysterytrey> Oh!  I'm cared about.  I feel so... *faints*
[11:51] <Rain777> haha
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[11:52] <Dcoetzee> Iceland is awesome :-)
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[11:52] <mysterytrey> Yes.  Yes it is.
[11:52] <Rain777> Im planning to continue college in the US or Europe so Im gathering a little intel :)
[11:52] <Dcoetzee> I mean their economic situation is pretty bad. But I like a lot of their progressive attitudes.
[11:53] <Dcoetzee> Rain777: Anything in particular you're curious about?
[11:54] <Rain777> well my main concern is if Ill be able to find a part time job to pay for tuition...
[11:54] <mysterytrey> It should be noted that the US has hot weather.
[11:54] <mysterytrey> Like 70s.  Bleh.
[11:54] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Not all of it... e.g. Alaska, Minnesota, Michigan are pretty cold
[11:54] <Dcoetzee> Colorado too
[11:54] <mysterytrey> Well, alaska maybe, but...
[11:55] <Rain777> yeah thats the cool thing about america
[11:55] <Rain777> lots of differrent people and weather
[11:55] <Rain777> *different
[11:56] <Dcoetzee> Rain777: I'm afraid the unemployment rate is currently about 8.2%. Better than it was last year, but high above the usual base rate of 5%. There's a lot of competition for jobs not requiring degrees.
[11:56] <Dcoetzee> Of course that will vary a lot based on location too.
[11:57] <mysterytrey> Oooh politics.
[11:58] <Rain777> yeah, I still havent thought about where in the US Id like to go
[11:58] <Rain777> So mystery, tell us about iceland
[11:59] <mysterytrey> Never!
[11:59] <Rain777> lol
[11:59] <mysterytrey> Well, it rains alot, so thats a plus.
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[12:00] <mysterytrey> And it's rarely get's above 15Celcius, and I just can't stand heat.
[12:01] <mysterytrey> So it's a perfect place.
[12:01] <mysterytrey> For me, anyway.
[12:01] <Rain777> wow thats really cold
[12:01] <Rain777> I guess one can get used to it though
[12:01] <mysterytrey> Not really, if you can't stand heat.  It's windchill that's a killer though.
[12:03] <Rain777> and what about the people?
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[12:04] <russavia> dcoetzee, porn is illegal in iceland....however would you survive?
[12:04] <Rain777> are they reserved or cheerful or how are they?
[12:04] <mysterytrey> People help eachother out, hitchhiking is easy and remarkably safe.
[12:04] <Dcoetzee> russavia: I'm pretty sure you just made that up :-P
[12:05] <mysterytrey> nobody here really annoys others.
[12:05] <russavia> you want to throw a {{fact}} on it?
[12:05] <mysterytrey> Not too much anyway.
[12:05] <Dcoetzee> {{fact}}
[12:05] <The_Thing> So sour: http://torrentfreak.com/demonoid-domains-go-up-for-sale-120812/
[12:05] <Shearonink> Rain777: I'm not sure about the visa situation, but there might be an issue with your getting work while you're in the US.
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[12:05] <russavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_by_region#Iceland
[12:05] <russavia> of course.....WP isn't a reliable source for jackshit
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[12:06] <mysterytrey> Porn is taboo in iceland.  I don't think it's illegal, but then again I'm not a guy, so...
[12:06] <russavia> which is funny given http://grapevine.is/News/ReadArticle/Icelandic-Kids-Watch-More-Porn
[12:07] <Dcoetzee> russavia: Wow. It's true.
[12:07] <Rain777> yeah the visa thing is making me doubt a little
[12:07] <russavia> but porn being illegal could be a good thing.....could you imagine Bjork doing porn?
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[12:07] <mysterytrey> Oh.  Porn is illegal.  What the hell?
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[12:07] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: See http://www.althingi.is/lagas/nuna/1940019.html#G210
[12:07] <Dcoetzee> I can't read Icelandic, but you can :-)
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[12:08] <mysterytrey> Just use google translate.
[12:08] <Dcoetzee> It's ridiculously broad.
[12:09] <Dcoetzee> I have a feeling it's very poorly enforced :-)
[12:09] <mysterytrey> I still have to for certain words.  &My grammer structure is fairly pitiful.
[12:09] <russavia> mysterytrey -- if you speak Icelandic, perhaps you could turn some of these redlinks into blue links? http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notandi:Russavia
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[12:10] <mysterytrey> Eh.  I'm not fluent.  I speak enough, though.
[12:10] <Rain777> those languages look difficult...
[12:10] <Dcoetzee> The weird thing is that Icelandic law on pornography is stricter than in the US, but Icelandic law on child pornography has far less severe punishments than in the US.
[12:11] <mysterytrey> Actually, something I should do, is get that person who doesn't have a job but is rich and donates to good will all the time to edit wikipedia.
[12:12] <Rain777> lol
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[12:17] <mysterytrey> So hows argentina.
[12:17] <mysterytrey> ?
[12:17] <russavia> argentina?
[12:17] <russavia> argentina is white!
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[12:19] <russavia> http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/134/840/ArgentinaIsWhite.jpg
[12:19] <Dcoetzee> There is an Internet meme I'm missing here
[12:19] <russavia> http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/134/837/ArgentinaAlbinos.jpg
[12:19] <Rain777> sorry I was having some milkshake...
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[12:19] <russavia> http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/150/643/ArgentinaLatino.png
[12:19] <Dcoetzee> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/argentina-is-white
[12:20] <russavia> dcoetzee, argentina is whiter than england!
[12:20] <russavia> or norway! or sweden! or even iceland!
[12:21] <BlastHardcheese> I thought they were silver
[12:21] <Dcoetzee> russavia: You evidently know a bit more about 4chan trolls than I do :-P
[12:21] <russavia> which is funny dcoetzee, given i don't frequent such sites ;)
[12:22] <Rain777> argentina is very dangerous...
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[12:22] <russavia> but it's true, it's an easy way to troll argentinians -- just say that they aren't white :)
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[12:23] <Rain777> nowadays not even tourists come here anymore
[12:23] <russavia> and no, i won't be writing [[Argentina is white]] in future
[12:23] <Isarra> Are strangers strange?
[12:23] <russavia> hey rain777, you are argentinian?
[12:23] <Dcoetzee> Isarra: No, but they are *stranger*
[12:23] <Rain777> yeah from buenos aires
[12:24] <russavia> i just uploaded a shitload of photos of argentinian air force -- http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Aircraft_of_the_air_force_of_Argentina
[12:25] <russavia> and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:FMA_IA_58_Pucar%C3%A1 and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:FMA_IA_63_Pampa
[12:25] <Rain777> I have a cousin in the air force but I dont talk to him very much
[12:25] <mysterytrey> Is he notable?
[12:26] <russavia> more importantly mystertrey, is he white?
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[12:26] <Rain777> I dont really know I hardly ever see him
[12:27] <Rain777> hes always at some base somewhere
[12:27] <mysterytrey> russavia: Are you sure you don't do 4chan?
[12:27] <russavia> absolutely sure ;)
[12:27] <russavia> i do wikipedia instead
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[12:27] <russavia> *"do"
[12:27] <mysterytrey> Not both?
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[12:27] <Isarra> Snrk.
[12:27] <mysterytrey> Cause I'm not sure.
[12:28] <russavia> nah it's more fun trolling wikipedia
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[12:31] <PeterSymonds> Hey Sigma.
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[12:32] <mysterytrey> Keegan_: Is your connection crappy?
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�06[12:36] * Peter-C licks SigmaWP
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[12:37] <Peter-C> PeterSymonds - get the new ISP yet?
[12:37] <PeterSymonds> Well yes, but I'm not actually at home at the moment. ^_^
[12:37] <Mdann52> Look, stop attacking SigmaWP everyone
[12:37] <Peter-C> Where are you :o
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[12:38] <PeterSymonds> Elsewhere.
[12:38] <Dcoetzee> Mdann52: We were technically only applying a coating of spices to him.
[12:38] <Mdann52> :)
[12:38] <Dcoetzee> Which makes him more delicious. :-)
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[12:39] <Fluffernutter> Hey, didn't I tell you kids yesterday, no eating the regulars!
[12:39] <Peter-C> MI6?
[12:41] <Frood> anybody know where I can get an inexpensive laptop, used is okay?
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[12:41] <Frood> or trade my tablet for one
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[12:42] <Peter-C> nom nom nomn nom
[12:42] <Peter-C> Hello :3
[12:44] <mysterytrey> With all this eating, you made me hungry. :(
�06[12:44] * mysterytrey eats MJ94.
[12:44] <MJ94> HEY
�06[12:45] * Mdann52 eats the whole channel
[12:45] <MJ94> teeth off the goods,
[12:45] <MJ94> Mdann52: fatty
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[12:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> gods dont have teeth
�06[12:47] * Fluffernutter read that as "girls don't have teeth" and I was all o_O
[12:47] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: They do if they're gods incarnate
[12:47] <mysterytrey> At least nobody has said "eats out" yet.
[12:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter well
[12:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> girls have fangs, you DONT want to be bitten by a girl
[12:48] <Mdann52> :)
[12:48] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Speak for yourself
[12:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Oh waiut
[12:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that was vampires
[12:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I confuse the two :p
[12:48] <Fluffernutter> I hear girls have poison in their fangs, too
[12:48] <Mdann52> Is there a difference?
�06[12:48] * ToAruShiroiNeko thinks girl fans are like swiss army knives
[12:49] <Dcoetzee> Mdann52: Girls are far more dangerous
[12:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> multi functional
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[12:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> there are vampire slayers but no girl slayers, no one dares :p
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[12:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they say girls come from venus if so they can outstand blazing tempratures and pressure
[12:50] <Dcoetzee> Ha
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[12:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> even lightning cannot strike Venus surface
�06[12:50] * ToAruShiroiNeko hides in fear :p
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[12:51] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Actually recent evidence shows lightning exists on Venus and is pretty similar to Earth lightning.
[12:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee it doesnt reach the ground though
[12:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> stays in the atmosphere due to the immensely thick atmosphere
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[12:52] <Dcoetzee> Ah so it's like cloud to cloud lightning on Earth?
[12:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yes
[12:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> there are loads of cloud to cloud
[12:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> with currents that would dwarf anything on earth
[12:52] <SigmaWP> It does not rain on Venus
[12:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but it isnt strong enough to reach the ground
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[12:53] <SigmaWP> Because the rain vaporises before reaching the ground :P
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[12:53] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: How does it compare to Jupiter lightning?
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[12:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it rains sulfur on venus
[12:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee I dont know but gas giants are in a leauge of their own
[12:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> cant compare terresial planets with them
[12:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> jupiters magnetic field reaches earth so anything electrical there will be massive
[12:55] <BlastHardcheese> dat gas
[12:55] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: I still think it's crazy that Jupiter has a storm that is 2-3 times the size of our entire planet that has been raging for hundreds of years with winds of over 430 kph.
[12:56] <Dcoetzee> ...I don't think I'd want to live there.
[12:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> actually it is not so bad
[12:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the eye of the storm is always calm :)
[12:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee with jupiter the surface effect on the clouds/storms are thought to be the source of the storms
[12:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its a tornado that reaches the core probably
[12:56] <mysterytrey> Have any of you ever been on venus?
[12:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mysterytrey no but soviets have
[12:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> for a few minutes
[12:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> then their craft melted down
[12:57] <mysterytrey> And they died?
[12:57] <Dcoetzee> :-S They had a craft on the surface, really?
[12:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yes
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[12:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the only successful landing on venus
[12:57] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Humans have never been anywhere near Venus, or even beyond the moon, as far as I know.
[12:58] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Once you land on Venus or Mars, you just don't have the thrust to escape again.
[12:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Venera
[12:58] <Dcoetzee> I have met some people though who say they would die to be the first person on Mars. Not me. :-)
[12:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee thats not really true, you just have to bring more fuel with you
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[12:58] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Well yeah but that doubles your payload and massively increases cost...
[12:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> The main problem with other planet visits is the time
[12:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee this is true
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[12:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its more than double btw
[12:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> since it makes landing twice as difficult
[12:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you could send the fuel in advance of course
[12:59] <Dcoetzee> More to the point, if taking off on Earth surrounded by hundreds of employees and ground built equipment is hard, imagine taking off in a hostile environment with only remote assistance.
[12:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> in fact any planet visit will have a boat load of stuff sent in advance
[13:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee well... Gives a new meaning to... Remote desktop
[13:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it takes about a year to get to mars and back
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[13:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> not because of the distance but because earth year and mars year is different
[13:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I want to stab peer
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[13:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll?
[13:01] <mysterytrey> Dcoetzee: What ToAruShiroiNeko said a second ago:
[13:01] <mysterytrey> 15:58 <ToAruShiroiNeko> it takes about a year to get to mars and back
[13:01] <mysterytrey> 15:58 <ToAruShiroiNeko> not because of the distance but because earth year and mars year is different
[13:01] <mysterytrey> 15:58 <ToAruShiroiNeko> I want to stab peer
[13:01] <Dcoetzee> Woops pulled my network cable by mistake. It' missing a tab so it slips sometimes.
[13:02] <Dcoetzee> Do you think we'll ever terraform Mars? It seems like a really big investment...
[13:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> teraforming mars isnt so difficult provided we find a way to restore the magnetic field
[13:02] <Rain777> I think Ill go to Mars and start my own bussiness selling cheese burgers....
[13:02] <SigmaWP> Capitalists are willing to do anything as long as there are enough workers to foot the bill
[13:03] <Rain777> I sure will be ahead of the market...
[13:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> with mars thats the problem, there is no magnetic field
[13:03] <Dcoetzee> Rain777: I would so buy a cheeseburger on Mars just to say I did that
[13:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> even if you restore the atmosphere it will leak away
[13:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> also any electronics will be fried on a well aimed solar storm
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[13:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> venus is a better candidate in that sense for terraforming
[13:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> all you need to do is cool it down
[13:04] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: I don't see how you can cool it down without thinning its atmosphere so much that it loses protection from cosmic radiation...
[13:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> venus suffers from rotating in the wrong direction though
[13:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee just send in a whitewestinghouse fridge :p
[13:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> endothermic reactions probably
[13:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> we have the technology to do it
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[13:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> consider airconditioning units
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[13:06] <Rain777> Im looking for a partner on a new bussiness
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[13:06] <Rain777> I provide the burgers and all you have to do is find a way of getting me to Mars....
[13:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but with mars you need to ship an atmospehere in as well as hardware and its energy source to provide magnetic shielding
[13:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Curiosity has an oven
[13:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you dont need much to heat the burgers
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[13:08] <Rain777> The thing is I dont know who will buy them except maybe that little worms they found once...
[13:08] <Dcoetzee> Rain777: Ship them back to Earth.
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[13:09] <Dcoetzee> Rich people will buy them as "the only burgers made on Mars"!
[13:09] <Rain777> yeah that seems like a good idea...
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[13:09] <Rain777> I can make them in my backyard and label them "made on mars"
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[13:09] <SigmaWP> Ipswich!
[13:10] <Dcoetzee> I once talked to someone who said that if they could be the first person on the surface of Mars they wouldn't mind dying there shortly afterwards. I don't think that would be for me. :-P
[13:10] <Rain777> yeah thats not a cool vacation
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[13:11] <Ipswich> Andorin: o.O
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[13:12] <Andorin> Ipswich: 0.o
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[13:17] <mysterytrey> Who's antispammeta?
[13:18] <mysterytrey> nevermind
[13:18] <fn-troll> mysterytrey: my bot
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[13:18] <TBloemink> And it's taking over the world now, it'll be back in a while.
[13:18] <mysterytrey> Who... are you?
[13:19] <PeterSymonds> Why, he's fn-troll of course.
[13:19] <TBloemink> :P
[13:19] <fn-troll> mysterytrey: uhm. I've been on this network for ~6 years, under the nicks "AfterDeath", "Athanasius", and this one
[13:20] <OlEnglish> he's a spy!
[13:20] <mysterytrey> Why is your server freenode/weird-exception/network-troll ?
[13:20] <mysterytrey> And why is your nick fn-troll ?
[13:20] <PeterSymonds> He's a freenode weird exception network troll?
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[13:20] <TBloemink> I want one of those too.
[13:21] <TBloemink> Who can I bribe for wikimedia/troll/tbloemink ?
[13:21] <fn-troll> mysterytrey: My hostmask is like that because I'm awesome
[13:21] <fn-troll> and my nick is fn-troll because I'm freenode's favorite troll.
[13:21] <mysterytrey> Hmmm...  Cool.
�06[13:22] * TBloemink searches
[13:22] <OlEnglish> who's watching the closing ceremonies?
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[13:22] <Rain777> I am
[13:22] <fn-troll> anyways, ASM is down because I'm tarballing its home directory to move to a new server
[13:22] <Rain777> thats why Im not talking much
[13:23] <OlEnglish> nice!
[13:23] <mysterytrey> Try #freenode.  Maybe if you bother them they will change it from wikimedia/tbloemink to that.
[13:23] <TBloemink> Probably I need to contact a wikimedia group contact
�06[13:23] * TBloemink eyes PeterSymonds 
[13:23] <PeterSymonds> Hmmmm!
[13:23] <OlEnglish> the brits really know how to put on a show
[13:23] <PeterSymonds> If I can't have a wikimedia/troll/* host, neither can you.
[13:24] <OlEnglish> the opening ceremonies were amazing too
[13:24] <Ipswich> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Republic_of_Macedonia
[13:24] <Ipswich> It got on the main page for On This Day every year since 2005
[13:24] <TBloemink> Hmmm
[13:24] <TBloemink> We should introduce that
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[13:27] <fn-troll> PeterSymonds: I bet you could
[13:27] <Dcoetzee> I wonder sometimes, when an article has 8 refs for a single sentence, is that getting excessive?
[13:27] <fn-troll> PeterSymonds: Seeing as you're a GC for wikimedia, you /could/ get wikimedia/troll/PeterSymonds
[13:27] <Dcoetzee> "On August 10, 2012, it was announced that presumptive Republican Presidential nominee Mitt Romney would be announcing his choice for Vice Presidential running-mate in Norfolk, Virginia, with most news sources reporting that Ryan would be his running-mate.[79][1][80][81][82][83][84][85]"
[13:27] <PeterSymonds> I /technically/ could, but so far I've resisted.
[13:27] <fn-troll> DO IT DO IT NOW
[13:28] <PeterSymonds> Hmm.
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[13:28] <PeterSymonds> Well, maybe. ^_^
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[13:29] <TBloemink> Hmm
[13:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landings_on_other_planets_and_bodies
[13:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I formatted the page a little
[13:29] <TBloemink> wikimedia/lazy/Barras maybe :P
[13:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> enjoy :3
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[13:29] <TBloemink> OH SNAP I pinged it
[13:29] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Nice :-)
[13:29] <TBloemink> Eh, him
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[13:29] <EdSaperia> hello, may amuse: http://www.facebook.com/lolwikipedia
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[13:30] <Barras> ???
[13:30] <Dcoetzee> EdSaperia: You should see: http://citationneeded.tumblr.com/
[13:31] <Barras> TBloemink: We can also get your cloak changed... to something funny :-P
[13:31] <TBloemink> wikimedia/traitor/tbloemink ?
[13:31] <PeterSymonds> wikimedia/loldutch/tbloemink perhaps.
[13:32] <TBloemink> Awesome
[13:32] <TBloemink> Even better than /troll/
[13:32] <PeterSymonds> Yes.
[13:32] <Rain777> I think Ill have a nap
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[13:33] <Rain777> Ill be back in a while
[13:33] <Rain777> cheers
[13:33] <Barras> troll would fit to Peter very well, I shoud get this changed.
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[13:33] <PeterSymonds> We could have a cloak-war.
[13:33] <PeterSymonds> One sure way for freenode to get rid of us.
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[13:33] <mysterytrey> Yes.
[13:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> have this cloak: wikimedia/0
[13:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> divided by zero cloak :D
[13:35] <mysterytrey> PeterSymonds: Go yell at everyone in #freenode to change your cloak.
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[13:42] #wikipedia-en url is https://en.wikipedia.org/
[13:42] <Barras> ^
[13:42] <TBloemink> Heh.
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[13:53] <Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Whoa I hadn't heard we had a soft landing on Titan.
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[14:09] <Fluffernutter> hey BarkingFish, you around? Could use a translation of a couple sentences into Icelandic if you have a moment.
[14:10] <foks> BarkingFish speaks Icelandic?
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[14:10] <Fluffernutter> i believe so
[14:10] <Fluffernutter> or i might be crazy
[14:10] <Guest11676> You wish you had this one, right? :-P
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[14:17] <BarkingFish> Fluffernutter, sorry about that, I was dealing with someone who just came to see me :)  Sure, point me where it is and I'll take a look
[14:18] <Fluffernutter> http://ask.metafilter.com/222079/If-you-speak-Icelandic-please-read -  they need "Our son has a very serious peanut allergy. Will you please make sure that no peanuts (including peanut oil or other ingredients) are in his food?" in Icelandic, in case they run into anyone who doesn't understand it in english
[14:18] <BarkingFish> k
[14:19] <russavia> barkingfish, almost everyone in iceland knows english don't they?
[14:19] <russavia> prob a good side effect of having nato bases there since god knows when
[14:20] <BarkingFish> yeah, this is what the other commenters have said on there - english is very widely spoken, not just in Reykjavík but across 99% of Iceland
[14:20] <Frood> Can't http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Say_Never_%28TV_Series%29 be db-hoax ?
[14:20] <Frood> no refs, nothing on Google about it (5 page in so far)
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[14:21] <mysterytrey> 5 pages in?  That's effort.
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[14:22] <russavia> isn't it funny that only westerners have peanut allergies
[14:22] <russavia> when will we learn
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[14:25] <mysterytrey> I'm gonna give a brownie to frood.
[14:25] <Fluffernutter> are there peanuts in the brownie?
[14:25] <Pharos> god thing i'm on the east coast then
[14:25] <Pharos> *good
[14:25] <mysterytrey> No.  No nuts.
[14:26] <mysterytrey> No peanut oil either.
[14:26] <Frood> Wikipedia page User talk:Frood has been changed by Mysterytrey
[14:26] <Qcoder02> Fluffernutter:  Depends on the recipe
[14:26] <mysterytrey> Yup.
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[14:26] <mysterytrey> And that message will stay there FOREVER because Fluffernutter blocked mizcabot or whatever.
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[14:27] <Fluffernutter> the one i blocked isn;t the archiverbot for user talks
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[14:27] <mysterytrey> Oh.
[14:27] <Qcoder02> Evening BarkingFish
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[14:27] <BarkingFish> hi Q
�06[14:28] * Qcoder02 smiles
�06[14:28] * Qcoder02 waves a tentacle ;)
[14:28] <Frood> keep your pants on pls
[14:28] <mysterytrey> Well I have that strikethrough blocked people gadget and at the top of the page it said it was being archived by mizsabot.
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[14:28] <Qcoder02> Frood?
[14:29] <Frood> oh
[14:29] <Qcoder02> Was that for me?
[14:29] <Frood> tentacle
[14:29] <Frood> okay
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[14:29] <Qcoder02> What did you read it as?
[14:29] <Frood> pants, and tentacle
[14:29] <Frood> you should be able to figure it out
[14:29] <Qcoder02> No I can't?
[14:29] <Frood> what is in your pants
[14:29] <Frood> that looks like "tentacle"
[14:29] <Isarra> Tentacle?
[14:30] <Frood> which people generally don't like to see.
[14:30] <Fluffernutter> wtf this conversation
[14:30] <TBloemink> Behave, please
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[14:30] <Qcoder02> Frood: I meant tenatcle as in limb
[14:30] <TBloemink> Omg, welcome to IRC
[14:30] <Isarra> I think they're discussing penises, which unfortunately aren't nearly as cool as tentacles.
[14:30] <Qcoder02> Foord : Please see a shrink about your  fixation
[14:30] <Qcoder02> ;)
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[14:31] <mysterytrey> Perhaps we need to change the topic to say "views expressed on this channel does not represent wikipedia".
[14:31] <Qcoder02> Frood:  So a Shrink shows a guy a picture of house - ' Girls' , a car 'Girls'...  A plate of food - 'Girls'... You are fixated with girls says the shrink... Well you have the pictures Doc...!'
[14:31] <Pharos> i have tentacles in my pants, but this is entirely unrelated to any sexual apparatus
[14:31] <Frood> k
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[14:32] <Qcoder02> Honestly I wonder if some Wikipedians are sane...
[14:32] <Pharos> i also have tentacles under my hat
[14:32] <Isarra> Pharos is one of those aliens from that town in one of those Stephen King stories.
[14:32] <BarkingFish> Fluffernutter, how do I post this on their board? I don't have an account with them. Do you?
[14:33] <Qcoder02> Isarra: I was thinking something Lovecraftian ;)
[14:33] <Pharos> i was thinking more Lovecraftian, but that could work too
[14:33] <BarkingFish> "Sonur okkar er mjög ofnæmi fyrir hnetum. Viltu vinsamlegast vera viss um að enginn hnetum (þar á meðal hneta olíu og önnur efni) eru í einhverjum af mat hans?"
[14:33] <Isarra> Well, we could settle this.
[14:33] <Isarra> Pharos: Are you semi-transparent?
[14:33] <Fluffernutter> BarkingFish, I will pass it on. Thanks!
[14:34] <Qcoder02> Isarra: Wikipedia requires FULL transparency ;)
[14:34] <BarkingFish> The literal translation if they want it, Fluffernutter - is "Our son is highly allergic to peanuts. Would you please be sure that no peanuts (including peanut oil and other materials) are in any of his meals?"
[14:34] <Pharos> more translucent than anything
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[14:35] <Isarra> Qcoder02: That's just a myth.
[14:35] <Pharos> i transmit light, but not information
[14:35] <Qcoder02> How many news page patrollers does it take to change a lightbulb?  They don't change bulbs they just leave a {{dim bulb}} tag :(
[14:35] <PeterSymonds> Oh dear.
[14:35] <Isarra> You're awful.
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[14:35] <Gfoley4> hah
[14:36] <Qcoder02> If Wikipedia made cars...  You'd have to check after a service to make sure the transmission was still there ;)
[14:36] <mysterytrey> Huh?
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[14:36] <Isarra> And to make sure there weren't duplicate parts, too.
[14:36] <Qcoder02> Isarra :  ROFL
[14:36] <Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: I think you trust your mechanics more than I do ;-)
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[14:37] <Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  ??
[14:37] <BarkingFish> Fluffernutter, grab this one please ^^^ we had bots in when they joined the other night from there... :)
[14:37] <mysterytrey> Good no-context quote "I think you trust your mechanics more than I do ;-)"
[14:37] <Qcoder02> There's a context
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[14:39] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Here's a nice no-context quote from an episode of Lassie I was subtitling this morning: "Paul, wait! Come back here! Can I have my potato, please? I can't tell whether you're the father or the son."
[14:39] <mysterytrey> You subtitle?
[14:39] <Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  You do subtiltes?
[14:39] <Qcoder02> For what?
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[14:39] <Pharos> for Lassie!
[14:39] <Dcoetzee> Yeah Netflix has a new volunteer service they're recruiting for at Universal Subtitles called Amara.
[14:40] <Dcoetzee> Subtitling for Hard of hearing and deaf viewers.
[14:40] <Qcoder02> Is this subtitlign English or all languages?
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[14:40] <Dcoetzee> Just English at the moment, although Universal Subtitles in general does solicit subtitles in all languages.
[14:41] <Qcoder02> If IIRC  there has been unoffical closed captioning of Japanese animation going on for years
[14:41] <mysterytrey> I hate captions.  It seems they're always off-timed.  Dcoetzee, promise us one thing, you'll have captions at least /decently/ timed.
[14:41] <Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: Yup and manga
[14:41] <Qcoder02> Albiet this is Japanese-> English captioning  as opposed to  deaf captioning
[14:42] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: I spent like 2 hours getting the timing within 0.5 sec :-P
[14:42] <Dcoetzee> I'm very perfectionist about my caption timing...
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[14:42] <mysterytrey> I shall give you a brownie for that.
[14:42] <BarkingFish> Dcoetzee, i finally found another one :)   I caption too, although mine is not language to language, mine is CC for the hearing impaired
[14:42] <Dcoetzee> BarkingFish: Me too :-)
[14:43] <Dcoetzee> My French is not good enough to write it or listen to it very well so I can only really do English.
[14:43] <Dcoetzee> Fun fact: if you upload subtitles to a YouTube video, YouTube will offer to automatically translate captions on the fly for you.
[14:43] <BarkingFish> How do you caption? Burned in or switchable?
[14:43] <Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  Perhaps you should mention this Netflix thing to Wiktionary people... plenty of linguists on Wiktionary :)
[14:44] <Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  The translations are sometimes poor
[14:44] <Qcoder02> BTW I always giigle at machine translation of Japanese websites...
[14:44] <Qcoder02> They end up like Yoda sounding ?
[14:44] <Dcoetzee> BarkingFish: Oh I just volunteer sometimes at Universal Subtitles, they mostly handle the overlaying and switching for me. I also upload their .srt files to my own YouTube videos.
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[14:44] <Dcoetzee> BarkingFish: This morning I subtitled an episode of _Lassie_ as part of the Netflix pilot volunteer captioning project Amara.
[14:45] <Qcoder02> You should ask fan groups...
[14:45] <Qcoder02> I am sure there are people that know sci-fi scripts better than the writers ;)
[14:45] <Dcoetzee> They've licensed a bunch of stuff that needs captions and apparently are reaching out to volunteers to help with the labour.
[14:46] <BarkingFish> Ah.  I do mine through a prog on Kubuntu called Subtitle Composer,  it's actually pretty decent.
[14:46] <Dcoetzee> I like Universal Subtitles because they handle the publication and search functionality for me.
[14:46] <BarkingFish> Do you have a link for that, Dcoetzee?  I'd like to give a hand on there since I have shit to do for the next fortnight :)
[14:46] <Dcoetzee> Their UI is fairly nice although it could be better.
[14:46] <Dcoetzee> http://www.universalsubtitles.org/ :-)
[14:47] <Dcoetzee> Is pretty neat, you just paste in a URL from any video sharing service.
[14:47] <BarkingFish> Is that where netflix are asking too?
[14:47] <Dcoetzee> Yeah but Netflix isn't taking more volunteers right now.
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[14:47] <BarkingFish> oh ok.
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[14:47] <Dcoetzee> They're working the kinks out of the system right now.
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[14:47] <Dcoetzee> Also it's kind of annoying because it plays from their video player and buffers every time I rewind. :-P
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[14:49] <Dcoetzee> I could caption sounds of pleasure, but it might get repetitive :-P
[14:49] <Qcoder02> And before you laugh, deaf people have a sex life...
[14:49] <Dcoetzee> I think it would work best with BDSM
[14:49] <Dcoetzee> Because doms actually, you know, talk during sex.
[14:49] <mysterytrey> ...
[14:49] <Qcoder02> BDSM isn't porn... It's arthouse Cinema... ;)
[14:49] <Dcoetzee> At least the ones who are fond of humiliation
[14:50] <Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: :-P
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[14:51] <Qcoder02> Sorry
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[14:52] <Qcoder02> but if content is to be subtitled I don't see why you should not include  'legal' pornos...
[14:52] <Prodego> having fun?
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[14:53] <Qcoder02> Dcoetzee mentioned Netflix was  running a subtiles project...
[14:53] <Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: Legal pornos? Like courtroom porn?
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[14:53] <Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  I mean as in pornos that are able to be sold
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[14:54] <Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: ...most pornos can be sold, in the US...
[14:54] <Pharos> i think courtroom porno is still legal in this state
[14:54] <Dcoetzee> Obscenity law is very rarely applied.
[14:54] <Qcoder02> XD
[14:54] <Qcoder02> :(
[14:54] <Pharos> we have a very progresive judiciary on that point
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[14:55] <Qcoder02> Dcoetzee: HMm
[14:55] <Qcoder02> *Hmm
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[14:55] <Dragonfly6-7> Scalia fucks the American people
[14:56] <Qcoder02> Isn't there at least one member of the US  Justice system into BDSM?#
[14:56] <Dcoetzee> I still believe obscenity law is unconstitutional.
[14:56] <Dcoetzee> I hope one day it'll go from "rarely applied" to "struck down". But not likely any time soon. :-P
[14:56] <Qcoder02> And I don't mean just normal BDSM, I mean really hardcore torture stuff...
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[14:56] <Qcoder02> .. involving restraints a towel and a jug of water...
[14:56] <Qcoder02> XD
[14:58] <mysterytrey> ...
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[14:58] <Qcoder02> As Ben Elton would say ' Little bit of Politics' ;)
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[14:59] <mysterytrey> Dcoetzee: Try and see if netflex will give you pron to subtitle.  jk
[14:59] <Pharos> I'm not ashamed of my horns!
[14:59] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: I don't think Netflix streams porn sadly :-P
[14:59] <mysterytrey> Wahh?
[14:59] <mysterytrey> That is an outrage.
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[14:59] <Dcoetzee> They do have several porn related documentaries.
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[15:00] <Dcoetzee> Wtf
�06[15:00] * mysterytrey bandages netflex article.
[15:00] <mysterytrey> **and vandalizes
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[15:00] <Dcoetzee> I just searched Netflix for "porn" and the #8 result is My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic.
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[15:01] <JamesonLTai> that's pretty awesome
[15:01] <russavia> LOL
[15:01] <mysterytrey> You should tell 4chan.
[15:01] <russavia> go tell t_kns in wp-ru
[15:01] <Dcoetzee> I'm guessing it's based somehow on words in reader reviews. :-P
[15:01] <mysterytrey> I believe they have a my little pony board there.
[15:01] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: I think they were exiled from 4chan and forced to create their own board.
[15:01] <Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  Erm Perhaps you should let Netflix know that :(
[15:02] <mysterytrey> Cool.
[15:02] <russavia> don't let them know that
[15:02] <Dcoetzee> I'm a brony myself so I was surprised :-P
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[15:02] <Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  You do know what 'pony play' is ?
[15:03] <Dcoetzee> Qcoder02: I'm going to assume it's some kind of sex play involving or related to or emulating ponies and/or MLP?
[15:03] <Qcoder02> Dcoetzee:  Yeah
[15:03] <mysterytrey> mlp?
[15:03] <Qcoder02> It's a subset of  BDSM...
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[15:04] <Qcoder02> I think
[15:04] <Dcoetzee> Is it the one where the sub is forced to let the dom ride on their back?
[15:04] <Qcoder02> I don't know what MLP means
[15:04] <russavia> nothing wrong with pony play
[15:04] <Pharos> i thought that was Men Loving Ponies
[15:04] <mysterytrey> isn't my little pony a childs show.
[15:04] <Qcoder02> mysterytrey:  Yeah
[15:04] <Qcoder02> Which is why I am suprised ...
[15:04] <mysterytrey> I assumed a second ago it stood for My Little Pony.
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[15:04] <russavia> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcGOEMN92GE  I'd imagine dcoetzee would like "llama play" more
[15:04] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Yes but the new series has a very large older male demographic.
[15:04] <Qcoder02> but if you have certain terms together...
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[15:05] <Dcoetzee> Especially on the Internet. Possibly outnumbering its intended demographic.
[15:05] <mysterytrey> So, it's become, "pedophiliac", so to say.
[15:05] <mysterytrey> ???
[15:05] <Qcoder02> Wikipedia has an article on 'pony play;'
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[15:05] <russavia> no more than pedobear
[15:05] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Ummmmm, liking a TV show aimed at children does not involve sexually abusing children or finding them sexually attractive, no.
[15:05] <Qcoder02> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_roleplay#BDSM_Pony_Play
[15:06] <TBloemink> Welcome to IRC.
[15:06] <Qcoder02> TBloemink:  This is a Wikipedia channel
[15:06] <russavia> pedobear, the world's most understood bear :(
[15:06] <Qcoder02> Issue of public concern get raised here
[15:06] <Qcoder02> like a kids show showing up in a search for 'porn'
[15:06] <russavia> *most misunderstood
[15:06] <Qcoder02> Freudian slip?
[15:07] <russavia> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151177670746062&set=a.399247356061.197061.11471221061&type=1  LOL
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[15:08] <russavia> 2nd comment -- what a pearler
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[15:13] <BarkingFish> wtf?  Is this a proper article, or someone simply copying some sort of law into the site? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Operational_Guidelines_for_the_Implementation_of_the_World_Heritage_Convention&redirect=no&rcid=522344290
[15:13] <russavia> is it more suited to wikisource?
[15:13] <BarkingFish> Ihnfi.
[15:13] <Dragonfly6-7> yeah, Wikisource
[15:13] <Dragonfly6-7> contact the user
[15:13] <BarkingFish> ok
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[15:15] <Qcoder02> Question: Are Episode Transcripts  OK for Wikisoruce?
[15:16] <Dragonfly6-7> No
[15:16] <Qcoder02> According to some people a load of Dragnet scripts are falling into the Public Domain
[15:16] <Dragonfly6-7> unless they're old enough to be PD....
[15:16] <Dragonfly6-7> aha
[15:16] <Dragonfly6-7> if it's confirmed, then sure.
[15:16] <Qcoder02> I'm never sure with Radio stuff...
[15:16] <Qcoder02> Dragnet is NBC so...
[15:17] <Pharos> i <3 radip
[15:17] <BarkingFish> ok, I left the user a note asking them to put it on Wikisource.  What do we do with the local article, Dragonfly6-7?
[15:18] <Dragonfly6-7> tag as speedy - not an article.
[15:19] <BarkingFish> What code? I don't see that in Twinkle :)
[15:19] <Dragonfly6-7> do you know how to type the words "not an article" ?
[15:20] <BarkingFish> yeah, I can do it as a custom rationale - but then it will ask me for a valid CSD criteria :D
[15:23] <BarkingFish> Dragonfly6-7, it would be a help if you weren't sarcastic.  I am well aware how to type, and how to spell, but I use twinkle - and if something don't come up in there, I prefer to get help.  Asking me if I know how to type, is not help :)
[15:23] <BarkingFish> "This article may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion because not an article. For valid criteria, see CSD. "
[15:23] <russavia> yeah dragonfly6-7 he obviously knows how to type
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[15:24] <russavia> he just spent a minute typing that retort out
[15:24] <BarkingFish> ..|..
[15:24] <russavia> and not a single spelling error...nice one barkingfish ;)
[15:24] <russavia> so in other, and more succinct, words
[15:25] <russavia> back off bitch!
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[15:25] <LikeLakers2> haha russavia
[15:26] <mysterytrey> Gosh, all of you just want to attack dragonfly, dontcha now?
[15:26] <LikeLakers2> yep
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[15:26] <Pharos> Americans: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_United_States_Federation#Wikimedia_United_States_Federation.2C_Inc
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[15:32] <Jarry1250> Incidentally, last time I checked, "not an article" is not a CSD criteria when a valid transwiki is possible; but anyhow, it was a copyvio (I think)
[15:33] <Jarry1250> So I just deleted it for that.
[15:33] <Jarry1250> :P
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[15:38] <mysterytrey> Does Fluffernutter like yawning?
�06[15:38] * Isarra paints Fluffernutter blue.
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[15:40] <Pharos> we need more blue wikipedians
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[15:44] <The_Thing> Wow, SC2's promotion system seems... odd
[15:45] <The_Thing> I was playing a 4v4, where we were all Zergs and all rushed and stuff, broke even, almost lost when the terran made mass hellions only to have our asses saved by a teammate who made mutas...
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[15:45] <mysterytrey> That's nice.
[15:46] <The_Thing> Now, I hadn't even been laddering for several weeks now, so my rank is pretty mediocre... rank 30-ish platinum... We just barely won that game. And I get promoted to Diamond. In 1 game. From rank 30-ish plat. After several weeks of not even laddering in the first place.
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[15:46] <DJMalik> Hi Antonorsi
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[15:50] <mysterytrey> hello there ttt.  How are you today?
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[15:52] <BarkingFish> anyone up for shutting an afd? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/VP530
[15:52] <DJMalik> Laura_Fiorucci: Tomare tu respuesta como no ¿verdad?
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[16:00] <IRWolfie-> I managed 48 hours without editing :)
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[16:01] <Antonorsi> DJMalik: hello
[16:01] <The_Thing> http://i50.tinypic.com/adcged.png
[16:01] <DJMalik> Antonorsi: que tal
[16:02] <BarkingFish> IRWolfie-, i've seen you quite a bit in here, who are you onwiki? :)
[16:02] <BarkingFish> just wondered since you don't cloak or anything :D
[16:03] <Wizardman> I almost regret getting started on copyright work. I was blissfully ignorant of how bad it was. Now it's an uphill battle.
[16:04] <Wizardman> just ventin, dont mind me..
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[16:04] <Jarry1250> Wizardman: Never visit certain wikis
�06[16:04] * Fluffernutter knows the feeling, Wizardman
[16:04] <Jarry1250> (I won't say which)
[16:04] <GorillaWarfare> Copyright in general is frustrating :/
�06[16:05] * Fluffernutter stays away from articles related to India after a bad IEP copyvio experience last year
[16:05] <BarkingFish> Wizardman, if you're pissed with it, and you're any good with a drawing prog, you can help me de-watermark pictures :)
[16:05] <GorillaWarfare> Oh god, yeah...
[16:05] <Wizardman> the cci i'm tacklng is in the india area, so.. there you go
[16:05] <Wizardman> not iep but a different one
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[16:05] <Frood> Fluffernutter: so many articles related to India are copyright violations
[16:05] <Frood> or just awfully written
[16:05] <Wizardman> IEP in hindsight was such a terrible idea..
[16:05] <Frood> IEP?
[16:06] <Fluffernutter> yep, Frood. Makes me feel horrible to generalize like that, but Indian society just doesn't seem to grok copyright
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[16:06] <Wizardman> indian education program
[16:06] <GorillaWarfare> Frood: India Education Program
[16:06] <Frood> oh
[16:06] <GorillaWarfare> Basically USEP, but in India
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[16:06] <Frood> Fluffernutter: I feel bad too, but it's pretty true
[16:06] <Wizardman> i should probably tackle that one too
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[16:07] <Frood> at one point I tried to tackle some of them, but there were too many
[16:07] <Wizardman> doing the banglapedia one, which thankfully are mostly just copypaste jobs that I can quickly remove from otherwise ok articles
[16:08] <Wizardman> oh god. i have ten left on letter C and i think every single one is a copyvio
[16:10] <BarkingFish> russavia, just saw this on reddit :)  "Jehovah's witnesses don't celebrate halloween. I guess they don't appreciate random people coming up and knocking on their door :P"
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[16:12] <IRWolfie-> BarkingFish: I'm IRWolfie- on wiki :>
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[16:13] <BarkingFish> thanks :)
[16:13] <IRWolfie-> What's your username?
[16:13] <IRWolfie-> aha I spelt it wrong, nvm
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[16:14] <IRWolfie-> was just checking the interaction tool :)
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[16:14] <IRWolfie-> turns out, not much
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[16:15] <BarkingFish> yeah, I've seen you about, just couldn't recall your username. I don't think we've interacted a whole lot at all
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[16:18] <nemilar> If I want to start working on an article, is it 'good practice' to build it in my sandbox first, or can I just start building the 'live' version?
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[16:21] <BarkingFish> nemilar, do you know how to add proper references, and put things in the right place?  do you basically, understand how to build an article?
[16:22] <nemilar> yeah I've done a little bit of editing in the past.  I probably won't be adding many (if any) citations to start with, I plan on working on the article over the course of the next few weeks.  I only have a stub right now
[16:22] <TParis> Isnt there some statistical theory out there that says if I headdesk, there is a chance I can produce a FA?
[16:22] <BarkingFish> what is your username on Wikipedia, nemilar?
[16:22] <nemilar> The article is in the requested article list.  I've done a bit of research but no writing
[16:22] <nemilar> BarkingFish nemilar
[16:22] <BarkingFish> ok, one sec
[16:23] <nemilar> I should most likely update my infoboxes.  They're all out of date :)
[16:24] <BarkingFish> wow. It's been a while since you signed up :)
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[16:24] <nemilar> haha yeah.  I'm not new.  I've just been away for a while
[16:24] <BarkingFish> If you're fully conversant with our rules, procedures, policies and the like, I see no reason why you shouldn't make the article live, rather than in your sandbox
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[16:25] <nemilar> I guess my concern is that someone may flag it for deletion while it's still in its newborn stages
[16:27] <TParis> nemilar, use the {{underconstruction}} template
[16:27] <TParis> or build it in your userspace first
[16:28] <nemilar> oooh, didn't know about that template.  Thanks!
[16:28] <BarkingFish> if you're working on it, and continuing to add stuff to it, try using that tag TParis just told you about, or put {{inuse}} at the top
[16:28] <BarkingFish> people shouldn't touch it with either of those tags at the top
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[16:32] <Wizardman> good lord so much laziness... doesn't help ive  done this about 6hours now
[16:35] <Frood> oh, closing ceremonies
[16:35] <Frood> they happened a while ago, didn't they?
[16:35] <Frood> is NBC just showing them now?
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[16:37] <nemilar> NBC is way behind, 6 hours I think
[16:38] <Fluffernutter> they haven't even gotten to eht ceremony yet, Frood. They're going on about how super-duper awesome and unique all the athletes who won medals are
[16:38] <mysterytrey> 6 hours is good for nbc.
[16:39] <Dragonfly6-7> Nuclear Bacteriological Chemical
[16:40] <Frood> Fluffernutter: :l
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[16:43] <Lubaf> Does anybody here get the joke in calling a martial arts master "The Master of the Flying Electric Chair"?
[16:45] <Fluffernutter> no
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[16:48] <Tony_Sidaway> I don't know whether the Olympics closing ceremony will be broadcast that much outside the UK, but watching it felt a bit like having your face stuffed with wedding cake.
[16:49] <Tony_Sidaway> Also if you were watching it and didn't know much about the British, you'd come away with the impression that we really love the 1960s!
[16:49] <Dragonfly6-7> I was vaguely irked that they used Mary Poppins vs Voldemort
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[16:51] <Tony_Sidaway> I thought the singer they chose for "We Will Rock You" did herself proud. It's hard to match up to Freddie's powerful, stadium-filling voice, but she was good.
[16:51] <GorillaWarfare> Tony_Sidaway: That doesn't sound so bad
[16:51] <GorillaWarfare> The wedding cake, that is
[16:51] <Tony_Sidaway> GorillaWarfare: for 2 and a half hours!
[16:51] <GorillaWarfare> Point taken.
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[16:52] <Frood> abuse
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[16:53] <GorillaWarfare> I think my finger decided to spontaneously become allergic to my ring...
[16:53] <Demiurge1000> Tony_Sidaway: About the singer, wasn't she a murrkin anyway?
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[16:54] <Tony_Sidaway> It does worry me a bit that most of the stars were from my generation. Very few were even under 30.
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[16:55] <[ceradon]> \O/
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[16:55] <Demiurge1000> Fluffernutter: Behave, please.
[16:56] <Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: English apparently. She sounded English. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessie_J
�06[16:56] * @Fluffernutter is satan, or something. So they say.
[16:56] <haggis> Fluffernutter: Seconded.
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[16:57] <Fluffernutter> no kissing up, haggis
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�06[16:57] * Peter-C licks Fluffernutter
[16:57] <Peter-C> GorillaWarfare - guess wut :o
[16:58] <GorillaWarfare> wut :o
[16:58] <Peter-C> Apparently the college you go to is favored by my parents and it is high of their list of places they want me to attend
[16:58] <Peter-C> :o
[16:58] <GorillaWarfare> Do eeeeet
[16:59] <haggis> Peter-C: are you an IB?
[16:59] <Peter-C> No wai, it is in Red Sox territory
[16:59] <Peter-C> D:
[17:00] <GorillaWarfare> Interesting college requirements
[17:00] <Peter-C> Fuck academincs, all about baseball
[17:00] <Frood> Where does GorillaWarfare go to college?
[17:00] <GorillaWarfare> Frood: Northeastern University
[17:00] <Ebe123> Academics are important
[17:01] <Frood> not as important as football
[17:01] <Fluffernutter> for heaven's sake, when are they going to bother to show the damn ceremony
[17:01] <Peter-C> Olympics?
[17:01] <GorillaWarfare> Frood: That could be a problem; Northeastern's football team was cut a number of years ago
[17:01] <haggis> Fluffernutter: I love how american networks didn't show it live
[17:01] <haggis> just to make an extra buck
[17:02] <Fluffernutter> not only didn't they show it live, haggis, but we're not exactly 1 hour AFTER they were supposed to be time-delay airing it. And still no ceremony.
[17:02] <GorillaWarfare> Peter-C: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhl6o-pdN9I
[17:02] <Peter-C> Cow.
[17:02] <Peter-C> There’s a cow.
[17:02] <Peter-C> Cow.
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[17:03] <Frood> GorillaWarfare: it's also not in the midwest.
[17:03] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Thank you for brownie :-)
[17:03] <Peter-C> TACO BELL
[17:03] <Peter-C> OMG SOLD
[17:03] <GorillaWarfare> Frood: That's Northwestern
[17:03] <mysterytrey> Yourwelcome.
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[17:04] <Frood> mysterytrey: *you're
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[17:04] <mysterytrey> Frood: What's an abuse protical?
[17:04] <mysterytrey> Oops wrong channel.
[17:04] <Tony_Sidaway> The Olympic closing ceremoney is great if you like ancient British rock groups like The Who, Queen and whatnot.
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[17:05] <haggis> GorillaWarfare: I'm curious to know why Balls of Steel is in related videos :O
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[17:05] <Peter-C> GorillaWarfare - you must get “Oh... this isn’t Northwestern” a lot
[17:05] <Tony_Sidaway> Annie Lennox on the prow of a Viking longboat.
[17:05] <Frood> Tony_Sidaway: OMG DON'T RUIN IT FOR THE AMERICANS!!!!!!
[17:05] <GorillaWarfare> Peter-C: Because Northeasterners have b-b-b-balls of steel?
[17:05] <Peter-C> Speaking of balls...
[17:05] <TeeTylerToe> I like the who and queen a lot more than I like the spice girls
[17:06] <Peter-C> I think I might just go to Bal So HArd Uni
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[17:06] <szwcasf> hello wikipedians.
[17:06] <Pharos> WLL banener is live to anons
[17:07] <Pharos> long liive libraries!
[17:07] <mysterytrey> Hello szwcasf
[17:07] <Dcoetzee> Pharos: Yay!
[17:07] <Pharos> :)
[17:08] <szwcasf> Ironholds the jew around?
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[17:08] <Pharos> no, only ironholds the gentile
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[17:10] <haggis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=N3hSHUV4iXE
[17:10] <haggis> LIKE A BAWS
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[17:14] <Fluffernutter> there seems to be an abundance of soap
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[17:15] <BarkingFish> Fluffernutter, just remember not to bend down to pick any up :)   Oh wait... that's in prison, ain't it? :P
[17:16] <Tony_Sidaway> I've been trying to watch the Olympic opening ceremony on iPlayer, but it's much heavier going than I expected. I can see that somewhere in there is a pretty clever script and an impressive amount of painstaking choreography. The overall effect is chaotic, though.
[17:16] <mysterytrey> BarkingFish: ಠ_ಠ
[17:16] <Tony_Sidaway> I have not, you understand, yet progressed to actually watching any of the sports.
[17:16] <haggis> BarkingFish: I don't think you fully understand :O
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[17:20] <mysterytrey> What is arch linux compared to a regular linux?
[17:20] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Arch Linux is just one of many distributions of Linux.
[17:20] <Dcoetzee> There is no "regular Linux".
[17:21] <mysterytrey> So is it more difficult than the average? linux.
[17:21] <mysterytrey> ?
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[17:23] <BarkingFish> mysterytrey, haggis, I understand perfectly, thank you.
[17:23] <Tony_Sidaway> mysterytrey: Arch is good if you know what you're doing. It has some slightly unusual BSD-like aspects, and I've been very impressed by it.
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[17:24] <Tony_Sidaway> I would still recommend Debian as the best all-round Linux distribution.
[17:24] <mysterytrey> Thank for your opinion, Tony_Sidaway.
[17:24] <Tony_Sidaway> I used to recommend Ubuntu but it's become rather silly lately.
[17:25] <mysterytrey> I just saw someone's quit message as (Quit: I taught my grandmother how to use Arch Linux)
[17:25] <mysterytrey> How has it became silly?
[17:25] <BarkingFish> in what way, Tony_Sidaway - if stuff we do don't suit what our users want, it'd be nice if they said what was wrong.
[17:25] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: For an objective recommendation, I would refer you to distrowatch.com. Scroll down and look at "Page Hit Ranking" on the right hand side.
[17:25] <Tony_Sidaway> mysterytrey: Ubuntu has been introducing a new desktop manager that in my opinion makes the system unusable.
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[17:26] <Dcoetzee> Top 10 are: Mint, Ubuntu, Mageia, Fedora, openSUSE, Debian, Arch, CentOS, Puppy, PCLinuxOS
[17:26] <Dcoetzee> Tony_Sidaway: I've kinda gotten used to Unity but it is a biiig change.
[17:26] <mysterytrey> So what's the difference from a Linux, a Unix, and any other *nix ?
[17:27] <Tony_Sidaway> I set up a printer server for my wife using Arch Linux. It's just a box that she turns on when she needs to print something.
[17:27] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Linux is an open source version of UNIX designed to run on Intel and compatible CPUs.
[17:27] <Demiurge1000> I would guess Tony is in a country where women are allowed to use printers unsupervised.
[17:28] <Tony_Sidaway> Dcoetzee: Unity is a big no-go area for me because I run fairly old (circa 2005) hardware and on principle I will not buy new hardware. I don't need anything more powerful.
[17:28] <Dcoetzee> It's kinda diverged from UNIX over time so some people question whether it still is. But it resembles it.
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[17:28] <Dcoetzee> UNIX is a much broader group of OSs including Linux, BSD, OS X, Solaris, etc.
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[17:28] <Tony_Sidaway> Ubuntu is still very much Unix. It's rock solid GNU.
[17:28] <BarkingFish> Tony_Sidaway, you do realise that you can still install the Gnome shell with Ubuntu, don't you?
[17:28] <Demiurge1000> UNIX(tm) is also protected by a trademark... UNIX systems include Solaris, AIX and a few others, but not Linux. Linux never achieved the certification.
[17:29] <Dcoetzee> What they all have in common is some essential things about their core operating system, like the filesystem works, how devices are accessed, etc.
[17:29] <Dcoetzee> Okay technically Linux is only UNIX-like
[17:29] <Demiurge1000> So Linux is basically a cheaper knock-off of unix. Moderately compatible.
[17:29] <Demiurge1000> It can be fairly easy to port /some/ software to Linux, for example.
[17:29] <Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: I didn't much like that either. I went for dwm, which is fantastically good and all I need. Then I looked around at all the encrustations of Gnomery and stuff and wondered why I was still running an OS that had that stuff. I moved to OpenBSD.
[17:30] <mysterytrey> So intel isn't an OS.  What exactly is it?
[17:30] <Demiurge1000> Intel is a company.
[17:30] <Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: Linux isn't a cheap knock-off. It is in every way a better Unix than the older BSD and SysV hybrids that used to be presented by commercial vendors.
[17:30] <BarkingFish> Unity has caused a lot of grief since its introduction, I'll admit.  We didn't even ship 11.04 with it, due to the fact that it wasn't finished when 11.04 was frozen.
[17:31] <Demiurge1000> Tony_Sidaway: That, and every discussion down that route, is a matter of opinion.
[17:31] <BarkingFish> *We didn't even ship 11.04 with Gnome, due to...
[17:31] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Intel is a company that makes CPUs. A CPU is the "smarts" in your computer, it executes programs and makes the computer do things.
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[17:31] <Tony_Sidaway> mysterytrey: Intel is a company that makes computer hardware. Their i386 computer architecture is the industry standard.
[17:31] <Frood> it was
[17:32] <Demiurge1000> heh
[17:32] <Frood> now amd has the standard.
[17:32] <Demiurge1000> and Apple.
[17:32] <Frood> but intel has the market
[17:32] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Basically, most versions of UNIX only run on certain CPUs and not others.
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[17:32] <Demiurge1000> The problem with standards is, there's so many to choooooose from....
[17:32] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: At the time Linux was made, UNIX only ran on big expensive computers.
[17:32] <Demiurge1000> Same with "industry" standards, whether Tony admits it or not ;)
[17:32] <Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: no. It is objectively a fact that older commercial Unix systems like had substandard userlands and they were deservedly killed off.
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[17:32] <Dcoetzee> mysterytrey: Linux runs on cheap PCs like the ones we use.
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[17:32] <Tony_Sidaway> I was there. I used these systems.
[17:32] <Demiurge1000> Indeed,... by contrast, Linux was written to run on a 386DX processor
[17:33] <Tony_Sidaway> Linux now runs on just about anything now.
[17:33] <Tony_Sidaway> Most BSDs, too.
[17:33] <Demiurge1000> Tony_Sidaway: I use multiple Unix and Linux versions as part of my day to day job, ... not aware that any of either of them have been "killed off". Except maybe IRIX, we might still have some of those
[17:33] <Dcoetzee> Yes, because Linux is open source, it has been ported to run on almost all types of CPUs.
[17:34] <Dcoetzee> So it's no longer just "the Intel CPU version of UNIX"
[17:34] <IRWolfie-> Linux tends is more up to date in terms of features than BSD anyway
[17:34] <IRWolfie-> the dev team is much much larger
[17:34] <Demiurge1000> I don't use BSD anyways... although I do have some BSD systems around here
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[17:34] <Soapy> I dont think Ive ever seen anyone running BSD as a home OS
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[17:34] <Soapy> BSD is in businesses a lot, though
[17:34] <Jasper_Deng> There's PC-BSD
[17:34] <Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: I should grab some of the older Unixes from my CV one of these days. It's like an elephant's graveyard of systems with crap K&R compilers and broken implementations of awk.
[17:35] <Dcoetzee> Soapy: I do
[17:35] <Dcoetzee> FreeNAS
[17:35] <Demiurge1000> Tony_Sidaway: You mean "grab", or you mean "remove" ?
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[17:35] <russavia> dcoetzee, you still rattling on about linux? ;)
[17:35] <Dcoetzee> FreeNAS is based on FreeBSD and I run it on my NAS :-)
[17:35] <Dcoetzee> It's kind of terrible.
[17:35] <Demiurge1000> I think I donated a fair bit of SPARC hardware to support the OpenBSD development folks, back in the day
[17:35] <Tony_Sidaway> Soapy: I use OpenBSD as my desktop OS and so does my wife. It's much smaller and nicer than many Linuxes these days.
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[17:36] <Demiurge1000> Tony_Sidaway: Your /wife/ ? Wait, are you that guy off Wikipediocracy that didn't like ErrantX ?  ;)
[17:36] <Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: i mean, effectively, grep them and have a bit of a laugh about them.
[17:36] <Demiurge1000> You need to update your CV, unless you're retired.
[17:36] <Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: I don't know what Wikipediocracy or ErrantX are.
[17:36] <Demiurge1000> Oh...
[17:37] <Demiurge1000> Did you leave the mainstream about the same time IRIX did :P
[17:37] <Soapy> ooh
[17:37] <Soapy> i saw an irix machine once
[17:37] <Wizardman> i've purposely kept out all of that. i presume it's just wr 2.0
[17:37] <Soapy> it had a sticker on it that said "Don't press the DELETE key! Veeeerry bad!"
[17:37] <Tony_Sidaway> I've no idea what you're babbling about now.
[17:38] <Demiurge1000> I am, in theory, responsible for providing some sort of engineering support for IRIX machines. Quite how I would even start to try to do so, I can't imagine
[17:38] <Soapy> irix was the OS they used to make CGI movies in the 90s
[17:38] <Demiurge1000> indeed, teh Silicon Graphics workstations
[17:38] <Soapy> do they still?
[17:38] <Demiurge1000> not really
[17:38] <Soapy> or has it been replaced by something else
[17:38] <Soapy> ok
[17:38] <Demiurge1000> They're still used in the real world ... but not quite so much as they used to be
[17:39] <Tony_Sidaway> If you think modern BSD systems have anything to do with dinosaurs from commercial Unix, you've got a surprise. These are open source projects.
[17:40] <Demiurge1000> Yeah, that's exactly why I was donating hardware to them a long time ago ;)
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[17:40] <Demiurge1000> open source isn't a new thing, y'know
[17:40] <Fluffernutter> ok wtf olympics. Harry Styles, the giant heartthrob of the teen band all the girls love? Apparently his sense of fashion is "Debbie Gibson, circa 1988"
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[17:40] <Demiurge1000> Who? x2
[17:40] <Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge1000: you sound rather clueless, to say the least.
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[17:41] <russavia> debbie gibson? dafuq! xD
[17:41] <Demiurge1000> Looks like teh Tony troll left.
[17:41] <Fluffernutter> seriously he is wearing this sort of...hat...with bangs...and it's exactly who he looks like
[17:41] <russavia> demiurge1000 you think that tony is jayen466?
[17:42] <Demiurge1000> He isn't wearing it /now/. He's in bed now.
[17:42] <Demiurge1000> russavia: What evidence leads you to believe that he might be?
[17:42] <Fluffernutter> fair point, Demiurge1000
[17:42] <russavia> well you mentioned his /wife/
[17:42] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/jayen466
[17:42] <russavia> only jayen466 is married i believe
[17:42] <russavia> the rest of the WF crowd has yet to be laid
[17:42] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tony_Sidaway
[17:42] <russavia> so 1 + 1 = 2
[17:43] <Fluffernutter> WF?
[17:43] <Soapy> wikimedia foundation I guess
[17:43] <Demiurge1000> interesting theories, be sure to mention them to the angry troll whenever he comes back.
[17:43] <russavia> WF = wikipediaforum
[17:43] <russavia> .com
[17:43] <Soapy> ok
[17:43] <russavia> .fucktards
[17:43] <Fluffernutter> that's a thing?
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[17:44] <Fluffernutter> oh, it's another name for wikipediocracy
[17:44] <harej> wickawacka
[17:44] <russavia> wikipedidiotocracy
[17:46] <Peter-C> O_o
[17:46] <Demiurge1000> They are teh funny. Actually I thought Tony was a bit more respectable than that, but I guess you live and learn.
[17:46] <russavia> it's especially lulzy watching them trying to get peter damian unblocked
[17:46] <russavia> these fuckwits don't realise that they only have so many members (which isn't that many)
[17:47] <Soapy> hm
[17:47] <Soapy> peter Damian was just editing a few hours ago
[17:48] <russavia> well if that's the case
[17:48] <russavia> block him
[17:48] <russavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Limited_unban_request_for_Peter_Damian
[17:48] <Soapy>  ohe he is
[17:48] <Soapy> *oh he is. Blocked, that is
[17:48] <Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Quisquiliae
[17:48] <Soapy> I just wonder if someone from that other forum was helping him stay under cover
[17:49] <russavia> they are all trolls soapy
[17:49] <russavia> of course they do
[17:49] <Soapy> fat chance of getting an unban passed if he's socking while the request is going on
[17:49] <russavia> *don't
[17:49] <russavia> they live to see WPidiots getting trolled
[17:49] <Demiurge1000> Soapy: Oddly enough, it came quite close
[17:49] <Peter-C> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/12/skyler-stone-mike-smith-chick-fil-a-gay_n_1770894.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl5%7Csec1_lnk1%26pLid%3D191427&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
[17:50] <russavia> unfortunately, there's enough truly WPidiots that fall for their trolling
[17:51] <russavia> it's lulzy watching all that go down peter-c with chick-fil-a
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[17:51] <Peter-C> inoright
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[17:51] <russavia> the sooner the civilised United States lets Jesusland secede the better
[17:51] <Fluffernutter> i was sort of disappointed that there wasn;t one convenient to me and that I don't have any female friends who live nearby
[17:52] <russavia> fluffernutter, plis remember that in future if you do find one convenient, and have a female friend go with you, photos plis
[17:52] <Demiurge1000> "I second the motion to take this to AN for an admin vote. [[User:Cla68|Cla68]] ([[User talk:Cla68|talk]]) 23:31, 12 August 2012 (UTC)" ... hmm I see two problems with this statement
[17:53] <russavia> where has cla68 written this?
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[17:55] <Demiurge1000> his contribs would tell you that, I hope. From memory, I think it was on ANI
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[17:57] <Peter-C> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0cYZ7J1pes&feature=player_detailpage
[17:57] <russavia> can someone please add to [[Jehovah]] the iw [[rw:Jehova]]
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[17:58] <russavia> and to [[Portable Document Format]] plis add [[rw:PDF]]
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[18:05] <BarkingFish> k, i'm out. night all.
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[18:06] <Soapy> http://rw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehova
[18:06] <Soapy> empty page
[18:07] <russavia> sorry Yehova
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[18:53] <Pharos> the only chick-fil-a around NY is the NYU cafeteria
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[18:56] <mareklug> Pharos:  do you have a car?
[18:56] <Pharos> i do not!
[18:57] <Pharos> well, my family does, but not me
[18:57] <mareklug> i was going to say there is one in Paramus Park Shopping Center
[18:57] <mareklug> Paramus, NJ 07652  (201) 967-9494
[18:58] <Pharos> I don't particularly go in for homosexual kissing
[18:58] <Pharos> not that there's anything wromg with that!
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[18:59] <mareklug> don't tell me the entire mall there is homosexual
[18:59] <Pharos> the ENTIRE mall
[19:00] <Pharos> I am, however, willing to act as matchmaker for WMNYC members who are intersted in homosexual kissing
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[19:00] <Pharos> this is part of my presidential duties
[19:01] <mareklug> your other NJ option is to the south.  Woodbridge Center
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[19:01] <mareklug> 434 Woodbridge Ctr, Woodbridge, NJ 07095, (732) 634-8981
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[19:01] <Pharos> come on WMYCers, represent!
[19:02] <GabrielF> I'm kind of surprised NYU lets Chik-fil-a run a store on their premises, Northeastern wouldn't let them because of the gay thing
[19:02] <Pharos> bluerasberry will probably get us a float at the nyc pride parade if he sticks around
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[19:03] <Pharos> i think it's been there for awhile; also NYU has a bunch of southern students
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[19:05] <mareklug> Pharos:  or you could be a man and go to the nearest Wendy's and have their chicken.  the spicy chicken wrap is good.
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[19:07] <GorillaWarfare> I like bluerasberry ^^
[19:08] <Apheori> Strange fellow.
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[19:08] <GorillaWarfare> Aren't we all
[19:08] <Apheori> I'm normal.
[19:08] <GabrielF> I saw that a New Hampshire chick-fil-a franchise owner decided to sponsor the local gay pride parade
[19:08] <Apheori> So is Peter-C.
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[19:08] <Apheori> WE'RE NORMAL.
[19:08] <Peter-C> ^
[19:10] <Pharos> bluerasberry is my buddy
[19:10] <Tony_Sidaway> No chick fil-A in London to my knowledge. Is this anti-gay stuff still spreading?
[19:10] <GorillaWarfare> Oh man, I love his userpage photo
[19:10] <Pharos> fun fact: he ALWAYS wears blue
[19:10] <GabrielF> I saw a talk once by danah boyd (this microsoft research lady who is a sort of anthropologist of the Internet) and she was saying that the people who tend to adopt new communications technologies are "freaks, geeks and queers"
[19:10] <GorillaWarfare> Pharos: I actually caught on to that
[19:10] <GorillaWarfare> He and orangemike should hang out
[19:11] <Apheori> Blue and orange are a horrible combination.
[19:11] <Pharos> that would be dangerous
[19:11] <Pharos> they are the national colors of NYC!
[19:11] <Pharos> Go Mets!
[19:11] <Apheori> NYC is a nation?
[19:11] <GabrielF> Apheori: I thought that blue & orange were opposite on the color spectrum and thus went together really well?
[19:11] <Pharos> and Knicks
[19:12] <Apheori> No, it means when you combine them they form poop colour.
[19:12] <Pharos> since the founding of WMNYC, yes we are a nayion
[19:12] <Pharos> we have our own olympic team!
[19:12] <Apheori> Disturbing.
[19:13] <Pharos> http://project.wnyc.org/olympians/index.html
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�06[19:15] * Apheori feeds it to her cat.
[19:15] <Guerillero> thanks Apheori
�06[19:16] * Fluffernutter gives Guerillero some bolognese
[19:16] <Fluffernutter> unrelatedly, Queen makes me happy
[19:16] <Guerillero> thanks fluff
�06[19:16] * Apheori breaks a snake plant into a bunch of pieces and offers them to random passerby.
[19:17] <Guerillero> so many gifts
[19:17] <Fluffernutter> Jessie J, not so much
[19:17] <GorillaWarfare> lolwut
[19:17] <GorillaWarfare> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Unicorns_in_coats_of_arms_of_bishops_of_the_United_States
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[19:17] <Apheori> There should be a category for Unicorns in Wikimedia logos, then, too.
[19:17] <Pharos> who says commons is only porn?
[19:18] <saburai> there's only one unicorn there : (
[19:18] <Fluffernutter> poor lonely unicorn
[19:18] <Apheori> There's only one Wikimedia logo with a unicorn that I know of as well, but it's AWESOME.
[19:18] <Tony_Sidaway> Unicorn porn.
[19:18] <Apheori> And Brooke did a terrible job of vectorising it and should be ashamed of himself.
[19:19] <GorillaWarfare> saburai: Fear not; there are plenty here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Unicorns_in_military_coats_of_arms_of_the_United_States
[19:19] <mareklug> but the ip who created the cat sure went whole hog in getting lang descriptions
[19:19] <Apheori> Cute.
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[19:20] <mareklug> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/60.62.202.89   <-- some kind of a unicorn lover.  it's all unicorns
[19:22] <Pharos> are there any non-wikipedians who dress in only one color?
[19:22] <GorillaWarfare> Fun fact: The White House employs three full-time calligraphers
[19:23] <Pharos> and i don't think goths in black count
[19:23] <Guerillero> I did not know that
[19:23] <Tony_Sidaway> Oh so not caterpillars then.
[19:23] <Pharos> WMF should employ 4 full-time calligraphers!
[19:23] <Guerillero> why?
[19:23] <GorillaWarfare> I'm trying to find a nicer image of the header (the bit that says "The White House Washington" at the top of http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Pentagon-Papers-Part_I.djvu/page244-1000px-Pentagon-Papers-Part_I.djvu.jpg
[19:24] <Guerillero> we have computers
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[19:24] <Pharos> it's the human touch
[19:24] <GorillaWarfare> So far I've just found the unicorn categories and the fact about calligraphers
�06[19:24] * Fluffernutter just saw Steven Zhang editing with his staff account and i had NO DAMN CLUE who "Szhang (WMF)" was. Am I getting old?
[19:25] <Pharos> at the rate of 12 months / year, i'd say
[19:25] <Apheori> Cute.No.
[19:25] <Apheori> Dammit.
[19:25] <Apheori> Fluffernutter: No.
[19:25] <Apheori> His staff name is just not very descriptive.
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[19:26] <Fluffernutter> well i mean i know the algorithm they use to make them
[19:26] <Guerillero> I hate the movie I am watching
[19:26] <Fluffernutter> somehow "Szhang" wasn't as seperable to  my brain as, like, "mdennis" or "okeyes"
[19:26] <Apheori> Sure, but it's not nearly as good as his usual name.
[19:26] <Pharos> algorithm detection fail
[19:26] <Apheori> Shang.
[19:26] <Tony_Sidaway> What do they use calligraphers for? I'm sure the Birthers think they're there to forge the reworded 14th amendment that makes Spanish the official language of the USA. But what are they actually for?
[19:26] <mareklug> Guerillero:  what did you think of Pauline at the Beach?
[19:27] <Guerillero> It is in my list to see
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[19:27] <GorillaWarfare> Tony_Sidaway: Certificates, place settings...
[19:27] <Demiurge1000> My employer thinks that the last four letters of your surname followed by the first letter of your christian name is very meaningful. So we have like SmitJ, SmitJ2, SmitJ3, SmitJ4 ... up to about fifty... and it's not even like all of those people are called John Smith!
[19:28] <mareklug> Guerillero:  there are a couple of other Éric Rohmer films on netflix
[19:28] <Frood> my phone has external antenna ports
[19:29] <Apheori> Company I worked for did the first initial lastname thing too, but I was stubborn and wanted a different id.
[19:29] <Apheori> So I got two different ones, neither of which followed pattern.
[19:29] <Apheori> It got really confusing.
[19:29] <Guerillero> my school does that
[19:29] <Demiurge1000> Oh, I have a whole bunch... can't access anything special with my "standard" username, so have to have various other ones with site+region+flavour-of-icecream etc
[19:30] <Fluffernutter> lol Demiurge1000
[19:30] <Fluffernutter> I was surprised when I got my work email that my firstnamelastinitial was distinctive enough
[19:30] <GorillaWarfare> My brother's school does something similar to that… They ended up reassiging an alum's email to him, but they didn't clear it out first
[19:30] <Apheori> I think I had one that was backwards for my email and webstuff and just my first name for logins for the computers themselves or something...
[19:30] <Demiurge1000> GorillaWarfare: Haha I like that!
[19:30] <GorillaWarfare> So there were like 300 emails in his school email account to some random person
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[19:30] <Apheori> Oh gods.
[19:30] <Guerillero> I am TLastname2
[19:30] <Fluffernutter> my college email was some ridiculous algorithm like "first initial + first 4 letters of last name + random integer"
[19:31] <GorillaWarfare> Seemed a little questionable privacy-wise...
[19:31] <Apheori> Yeah, that's what my current uni does.
[19:31] <Apheori> Stupid integer.
[19:31] <Fluffernutter> i continue to ponder how in the world i could have been the SECOND "myfirstinitial+myfirst4last"
[19:31] <Apheori> Previous uni just varied up the ratio of first name to last when there were duplicates usually. Much easier to remember.
[19:32] <Apheori> So you get Fred Smith 1 haveing fsmith and 2 have frsmit.
[19:32] <Fluffernutter> are you still in uni, Apheori? For some reason i thought you were a little older than that
[19:32] <Apheori> I dropped out.
[19:32] <Apheori> It kind of slowed me down.
[19:32] <Fluffernutter> ah, that'll do it
[19:33] <Apheori> But if you must know, I'm actually 19 and have been for the past 5 years.
[19:33] <Guerillero> see everyone's has a number in theirs at mine
[19:33] <Apheori> ...possibly more.
[19:33] <Apheori> >.>
[19:34] <Fluffernutter> i have a family member who's been twenty-nine for about ten years now
[19:34] <Apheori> Good number.
[19:34] <Pharos> i've been 65 for the last 20 years
[19:34] <Tony_Sidaway> My first university called me q17, which I thought at the time was rather lovely.
[19:34] <Nascar1996> Question: what warning (if any) should I give this guy for http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANascar1996&diff=507135329&oldid=507053598
[19:34] <Fluffernutter> rather artful, Tony_Sidaway
[19:35] <Tony_Sidaway> As the years pass by though I find myself wishing they'd been more imaginative. W22 or Y8.
[19:36] <Nascar1996> More likely, can I get a admin to ban that guy?
[19:36] <Apheori> One of my colleges used numerical things for everything.  It was just s035763429 or some such for students.
�06[19:36] * Nascar1996 just looked at his/her's contributions.
[19:36] <Nascar1996> All personal attacks
[19:36] <saburai> in high school my ID number was 7
[19:36] <Nascar1996> Nevermind
[19:37] <saburai> the teacher liked me, so he gave me '007' as an ID number, which the system turned into 7
[19:37] <Apheori> I like how when editing there's no need to keep a straight face.
[19:37] <saburai> everyone else had 4 digits or more in their ID
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[19:38] <Apheori> "It is 100% fact. He did in fact invent a time machine in his teens to prevent Queen Elizabeth from assassinating the Beatles."
[19:38] <Apheori> Okay. Find some reliable sources.
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[19:40] <Tony_Sidaway> Rather strange that the queen agreed to be depicted hobnobbing with a murderous thug like James Bond.
[19:41] <Pharos> he is her employee
[19:41] <Tony_Sidaway> (Musing out loud about Olympics)
[19:41] <Pharos> like another corgi
[19:41] <Demiurge1000> He'll be musing about Linux again within a few minutes.
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[19:42] <Pharos> back in my day, it was GNU?Linux
[19:43] <Tony_Sidaway> He isn't really. He's a fictional representation and a rather fanciful one at that. It's as if Jason Bourne entered the real Oval Office and the real President greeted him.
[19:43] <Frood> should https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Boxberg_OL_-_Reichwalde_-_Tagebau_03_%28mT%29_ies.ogv&action=history maybe be protected, commons admins?
[19:43] <Demiurge1000> Pharos: That was a somewhat later invention :)
[19:44] <Tony_Sidaway> Demiurge please let's draw a truce on that. Life is too short for sniping.
[19:44] <Demiurge1000> Agreed.
�06[19:45] * Demiurge1000 burns the flag of truce so that we can all toast marshmallows with it. Or, some such confusion of metaphors.
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[19:49] <Tony_Sidaway> Are the veepstakes articles still protected, I wonder? This made headlines in some news sources last week.
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[19:56] <NyanChat> Can anyone have a fundraiser that involves a trip from Jordanhill to Izbat al Burj?
[19:57] <Frood> Pharos is an admin?
[19:57] <Pharos> i am
[19:57] <Pharos> i'm highly ninactive tho ;)
[19:58] <Frood> i didn't know this until i was looking through the main page history
[19:58] <Frood> and saw you edited it
[19:58] <Frood> then i looked at your rights log
[19:58] <Pharos> many times, back in the day
[19:58] <Frood> and
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[19:58] <Frood> 21:11, March 18, 2005 Cecropia (talk | contribs) changed rights for User:Pharos from (none) to (none) (+sysop)
[19:58] <Frood> so in 2005, sysop was literally nothing?
[19:58] <Pharos> we had a vote!
[19:59] <Isarra> Not a !vote like they have these days?
[19:59] <Pharos> i used to be the free images maven for the main page
[19:59] <Frood> and on April 19, 2007, the main page was unprotected for two minutes
[19:59] <Pharos> well, it was a !vote, we had !voters, !ballots, and a rousing !campaign
[20:00] <Frood> no, one minute
[20:00] <Pharos> i has two things i did
[20:00] <Frood> the person who unprotected was also blocked.
[20:00] <Pharos> 1 make sure there werent genitalia on the main page
[20:00] <Pharos> thast was a big job
[20:00] <Pharos> it used to be an issue!
[20:00] <Frood> and he's banned
[20:00] <Pharos> then, make sure no fair use images on main page
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[20:01] <Tony_Sidaway> Ah, Ryan article semi-protected until 17th. And even so there is a bit of a tussle going on. Is he or isn't he a brown noser, and is that relevant?
[20:01] <Pharos> it used to be a thing
[20:01] <Pharos> admions would "go postal" and delete the main page
[20:02] <Pharos> at one point they started making redundant copies
[20:02] <Pharos> i think three are like 15 main pages sitting under the main one just in case
[20:02] <Pharos> or at least there were in 2008 :P
[20:03] <norbit> Guess who!?!?!
[20:03] <Tony_Sidaway> Why no genitals?
[20:03] <Frood> Fox News.
[20:03] <norbit> Tony_Sidaway: because we're not commons.
[20:03] <Pharos> well, they're ok if the article is about genitals
[20:04] <Frood> "Wikipedia a porn site? Why your kids should never use Wikipedia, at 11"
[20:04] <Frood> also, I doubt the community would allow that.
[20:04] <Pharos> Wikipedia is not a porn site, unless you want it to be!
[20:04] <Frood> there are /lots/ of younger kids (10-12ish) who use Wikipedia
[20:04] <Frood> and seeing dicks on the main page
[20:04] <Frood> might be bad
[20:04] <Pharos> it was
[20:05] <Pharos> i don't think anyone ever noticed tho
[20:06] <BlastHardcheese> as we know, people don't grow penises or boobies until the day they turn 18
[20:08] <Pharos> i remember, it was very hard to urinate as a kid
[20:08] <Tony_Sidaway> There are pictures of genitals in appropriate places on Wikipedia. And we shouldn't forget that, for many kids, encyclopedias are their only legitimate and reliable source of information about their own sexuality.
[20:08] <Sven_Manguard> BlastHardcheese: also swear words are never uttered in middle school
[20:08] <Frood> and in high school, teachers swear at you
[20:09] <Guerillero> yes
[20:09] <Tony_Sidaway> We should really be _promoting_ the uncensored status of Wikipedia rather than trying to conceal it.
[20:09] <norbit> Frood: My elementary teachers swore :O
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[20:10] <Pharos> my teaching were very well-behaved
[20:10] <Tony_Sidaway> In the early days as I recall this was very much the case.
[20:10] <Pharos> most of the time
[20:11] <Tony_Sidaway> Most places a kid goes, they're lied to. Wikipedia is different.
[20:11] <Tony_Sidaway> Here they can learn about sex and other sensitive topics.
[20:11] <norbit> Isarra: so you don't get mad, this is me.
[20:11] <norbit> this is me until sept 31st
[20:12] <Frood> ...kids don't need to see a grown man's penis
[20:12] <Frood> that won't teach them about sex
[20:12] <Isarra> Who?
[20:12] <Pharos> me
[20:12] <Isarra> Ah.
[20:12] <Isarra> Hello, little Pharos.
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[20:13] <Frood> learning about sex by seeing picture of genitals is about as likely as learning how to replace an engine by looking at a car
�06[20:13] * norbit is unsplatted
[20:13] <Pharos> I'm so proud of mini-me
[20:13] <Isarra> Don't kids ever use locker rooms at public pools these days?
[20:13] <Frood> and yeah, sometimes you need to lie to kids about that stuff
[20:13] <Isarra> See plenty of genitals there.
[20:14] <Frood> Isarra: and this is why i don't go to the pool
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[20:14] <Isarra> And that's the places where the pools themselves don't have visible genitals.
�06[20:14] * Isarra pats Frood on the head.
[20:14] <Frood> it's always old people
[20:14] <Frood> not even the "if i were gay they'd be attractive" people.
[20:14] <Frood> no, ths old 70 year old man
[20:15] <Pharos> ok
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[20:16] <Pharos> that is one perspective
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[20:17] <GabrielF> sven_manguard: you around?
[20:20] <Tony_Sidaway> No you don't need to lie to kids about sex. And certainly an encyclopedia shouldn't let them down if they're stuck with stupid or mendacious parents.
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[20:23] <NyanChat> Frood: what's this about wp being porno?
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[20:24] <NyanChat> Are the kids prevented from registering, if under 13, due to COPPA laws?
[20:24] <Tony_Sidaway> I think Larry Sanger made a thing about this the other day.
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[20:25] <Demiurge1000> Anyone under the age of 16, cannot sign up to an adult account on Wikipedia.  Cunningly, no-one over the age of 16 can do so either.
[20:26] <Tony_Sidaway> There seem to be many Americans who equate all depiction of genitals with porn.
[20:28] <Tony_Sidaway> Lots of people in other nations too, but Americans seem to be most widely prone to this.
[20:28] <Frood> NyanChat: No.
[20:31] <NyanChat> So why isn't COPPA enforced on WM sites?
[20:31] <Frood> doesn't have to be
[20:31] <Frood> they don't require personal info
[20:32] <Frood> you can remain completely anonymous on WP
[20:32] <Frood> no email required
[20:32] <NyanChat> o...kay.
[20:32] <Frood> no name required
[20:32] <NyanChat> So we probably get gradeschoolers here all the time, about 2/5ths of them vandals.
[20:32] <Guerillero> COPPA only works if you require personal info
[20:32] <Frood> it's very hard to enforce, too.
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[20:32] <Frood> see: facebook
[20:33] <NyanChat> no kidding. many like to lie because kids haven't yet learned the patience to wait to age 13
[20:33] <Tony_Sidaway> Our primary audience is grade school kids. We're an encyclopedia.
[20:34] <NyanChat> Primary... audience? http://simple.wikipedia.org is not?
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�06[20:36] * NyanChat for a while thought high schools and colleges were primary audiences
[20:36] <Frood> NyanChat: no, that's mostly for people whose first language isn't English
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[20:36] <Frood> But I use it a lot
[20:37] <Frood> for some things
[20:37] <NyanChat> Well Frood, the way the Simple wiki reads gives off the vibe of the texts I read in grade school. No joke.
[20:37] <Demiurge1000> NyanChat, there seems to be a misunderstanding. The minimum age to use Wikipedia is NOT 13.
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[20:38] <Frood> it's "old enough to use a computer?
[20:38] <Frood> s/?/"/
[20:38] <NyanChat> I got on my Dad's Amiga for the first time at 5, but spilled Coke on it at 7...
[20:38] <NyanChat> Dad should've invested in a membrane cover.
[20:39] <Frood> anyway, bed.
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[20:39] <Demiurge1000> gradeschoolers who add "Fred is gay" are very easy to deal with - usually they are dealt with by other gradeschoolers. Adults who indulge in years-long defamation campaigns against living people are harder to deal with... gradeschoolers also help in dealing with them.
[20:40] <NyanChat> Demi, you referring to [[Fred Figglehorn]] ( [[Lucas Cruikshank]]?)
[20:40] <Demiurge1000> I'm not.
[20:40] <Demiurge1000> I might be referring to [[Ronn Torrossian]], but I'm not sure I can spell it.
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[20:43] <Tony_Sidaway> My son learned to use a computer with my Amiga. He was a rather precocious three-year-old.
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[20:45] <Tony_Sidaway> He insisted that I show him how to write simple expressions in Smalltalk, one day. He was delighted that it could tell him whether 6+8=14 and so on.
[20:46] <Tony_Sidaway> I had to explain, though, the meaning of the words true and false. They are not encountered in most reading material intended for toddlers.
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[21:06] <Peter-C> I like how Mint loves to rub it in my face I’m poor
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[21:06] <dfeuer> Who can rename http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Halon_fire_supression.jpg to fix the spelling?
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[21:09] <Tony_Sidaway> Peter-C Linux Mint?
[21:09] <Peter-C> Mint.com
[21:09] <Isarra> dfeuer: What's the spelling?
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[21:10] <dfeuer> It should be "suppression", not "supression", but that's also an insufficiently descriptive title.
[21:11] <Isarra> So what, 'Halon fire suppression SIGN'?
[21:11] <Peter-C> ^
[21:12] <dfeuer> Isarra: Halon fire suppression warning sign, I would say.
[21:12] <Isarra> Is it really worth the bother? >.>
[21:12] <dfeuer> Yes.
[21:12] <dfeuer> Especially because it's spelled wrong,
[21:12] <dfeuer> and incorrect spelling is always worth fixing :)
[21:13] <Isarra> I guess that does fall under criterion 3...
[21:13] <Isarra> Mon, this is commons. Spelling is beneath us.
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[21:13] <Isarra> them*
[21:15] <dfeuer> So, Isarra, what will it get to get it moved?
[21:15] <Isarra> Hold on, I'll move it. Just for you.
[21:15] <dfeuer> Thank you!
[21:16] <dfeuer> I can clean up the links if you like.
[21:16] <Isarra> It think there's a bot that does that.
[21:16] <Isarra> But I dunno because I never actually do this.
[21:16] <dfeuer> Here, have some ice cream with milk.
�06[21:17] * Isarra eyes commons suspiciously.
[21:18] <Isarra> Whaaah weird.
[21:18] <ChrisGualtieri> Whoever is messing up categories is going to get it x-x
[21:19] <ChrisGualtieri> I basically finished TypoScan
[21:19] <dfeuer> ChrisGualtieri: doesn't every mathematician mess up categories /sometimes/?
[21:19] <Isarra> Apparently an admin has to process the list before the bot will replace all three uses of the thing. XD
[21:19] <ChrisGualtieri> The problem is, it messes with the parsers!
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[21:19] <dfeuer> Isarra: I wish that sentence meant something to me.
[21:20] <Isarra> I'm sorry.
[21:20] <dfeuer> ChrisGualtieri: I was just being silly--I have no idea what you're talking about.
[21:20] <Isarra> Either it'll get replaced or someone will yell at me, though.
[21:20] <dfeuer> Although I do have a clear idea of what a parser is.
[21:21] <ChrisGualtieri> Basically, if I don't fix the formating and flow, it could crash the Wikipedia to DVD parser program in development
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[21:21] <Isarra> Parsers are magic, right?
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[21:22] <Isarra> With this upload wizard thing, are folks trying to drown people in walls of text?
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[21:22] <dfeuer> ChrisGualtieri: if your parser can actually /crash/, you've done it all wrong. If it just fails with an error and gives no useful output, then .... well, it might need a little more work.
[21:22] <Isarra> Or have I not been paying attention and that's the way all the projects are?
�06[21:22] * Isarra licks Peter-C.
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�06[21:23] * Isarra eats Peter-C's family.
[21:23] <Peter-C> :(
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[21:23] <dfeuer> Now now! No eating people, or even dwellings!
�06[21:23] * Isarra considers this a victory.
[21:23] <ChrisGualtieri> I don't run a parser >.> But these categories with spaces, errors in templates, bad ISBNs and stuff, those all need to be fixed anywyas
�06[21:23] * Isarra goes back to what she was doing.
[21:25] <Isarra> Is it a copyright violation if I release something under a license requiring attribution and then forget to attribute myself when using it?
[21:26] <Tony_Sidaway> You can do what you like with your own work.
[21:26] <Isarra> But what if nobody is supposed to know it's me?!
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[21:27] <Tony_Sidaway> Then that's a separate issue, but it still isn't copyright infringement.
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[21:27] <Isarra> He's no fun.
[21:27] <TeeTylerToe> just add the attribution and try not to sue yourself
[21:28] <dfeuer> Um .... Isarra .... I thought there were two links to that file.  I fixed one of them......
[21:28] <Isarra> Okay.
[21:28] <TeeTylerToe> unless you have lots of nice stuff, or large bank accounts
[21:28] <dfeuer> But now I don't know where the other one was....
[21:28] <Isarra> Woah, fancy, rollback links that actually say how many edits that would revery...
[21:28] <Isarra> t
[21:29] <Isarra> Duuuude.
[21:29] <Isarra> I'm so out of it right now.
[21:29] <dfeuer> Oh,
[21:29] <dfeuer> don't worry.
[21:29] <dfeuer> I found it, Isarra.
[21:29] <dfeuer> 'Twill be fixed momentarily (right now just shows a "broken link" sort of image).
[21:30] <Isarra> You don't need to do that; I put in a request for the bot to do it.
[21:30] <Isarra> It'll be magical.
[21:30] <dfeuer> It will be irrelevant, because it is already done.
[21:31] <dfeuer> There were only two pages linking to that file, and they're both fixed now.
[21:31] <Isarra> The request is there. Doing it is pointless.
[21:31] <Isarra> >.<
[21:31] <dfeuer> Obviously, I'm faster than the bot :P
[21:31] <dfeuer> Or the bot-approval process, or whatever.
[21:31] <Isarra> Okay, so is the 'rollback 5 edits' thing a mw1.20wmf9 thing, or just another Commons sucks at putting weird js in the right place thing?
[21:32] <Jasper_Deng> it's 1.20wmf9
[21:32] <Isarra> Oh, cool.
[21:32] <dfeuer> ?
[21:33] <Isarra> Commons still sucks at putting js in the right place, though.
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[21:40] <dfeuer> A good friend (ז״ל) of my grandmother's (ז״ל) was a caterer, and she would make cheese blintzes for me when I was a little kid. I would like to learn how to make such myself some day. Perhaps the next time I get vacation time, if that should ever happen....
�06[21:42] * dfeuer offers Isarra a blueberry blintz of the store-bought frozen variety.
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[21:42] <TeeTylerToe> paul ryan's veins run with cheese?
[21:43] <dfeuer> evilgohan2: if you truly are evil, I might have to cut off your ears and serve them to Peter-C.
[21:43] <TeeTylerToe> isn't there some sort of physical for the job?
�06[21:43] * Isarra freaks out and runs away.
[21:43] <dfeuer> Isarra: blueberry blintzes frighten you?
[21:43] <Isarra> Sure, I dunno.
[21:44] <TeeTylerToe> "My veins run with cheese, bratwurst, and a little Spotted Cow and some Millers," Ryan said, his voice cracking with emotion. "I even think ice fishing is interesting."
[21:44] <dfeuer> TeeTylerToe: if there were some sort of physical for the job, Dick Cheney would never have gotten it.
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[21:44] <TeeTylerToe> that is an interesting question, because Reagan's mental state was deteriorating with age
[21:44] <dfeuer> Wasn't there a president who died of pneumonia within days of taking office?
[21:45] <TeeTylerToe> maybe
[21:45] <TeeTylerToe> I think after an assassination?
[21:45] <dfeuer> Isarra: please explain what you could possibly find frightening about blueberry blintzes.
[21:45] <TeeTylerToe> I dunno, blueberry packts is a little weird
[21:45] <TeeTylerToe> packets
[21:46] <BlastHardcheese> william henry harrison
[21:46] <dfeuer> BlastHardcheese: I just figured that out.
[21:46] <BlastHardcheese> dfeuer: what do you mean, Dick Cheney is an immortal cyborg
[21:47] <dfeuer> Died on his 23rd day in office, the shortest term of any U.S. president, according to WP.
[21:48] <dfeuer> BlastHardcheese: if so, he does quite a good job of pretending to be a (sub?)human with serious heart (as well as soul) problems.
[21:48] <ChrisGualtieri> I'm out of work to conduct with AWB >.> Typoscan is done and checkwiki is too slow
[21:48] <TeeTylerToe> wow, the guy that's running the dishonest ads taking the other guy's words out of context is criticizing his opponent's campaign...
[21:49] <dfeuer> TeeTylerToe: which one are you talking about this time?
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[21:50] <Isarra> dfeuer: Timing can make anything terrifying if already startled.
[21:50] <TeeTylerToe> Romney's criticizing Obama's campaign for being the lowest, meanest, most negative campaign in american history
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�06[21:51] * dfeuer hasn't seen a good presidential /candidate/ in his life, let alone a good president. My mom has often said the only good candidate she ever saw was Hubert Humphrey, and he lost to Nixon.
[21:52] <dfeuer> I voted for Obama, and I'll vote for him again, but I sure as heck don't /like/ him.
[21:52] <harej> dfeuer, you're definitely not alone.
[21:52] <dfeuer> TeeTylerToe: however, /Romney/ calling /Obama/ negative is ... out there.
[21:52] <norbit> Obama is boss.
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[21:53] <TeeTylerToe> almost all elections in the US are between bad and worse
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[21:53] <dfeuer> I suspect Clinton might've made a better president, but I don't think she ever had a chance of winning a general election.
[21:53] <dfeuer> Her husband I would personally rate as "extremely overrated".
[21:54] <TeeTylerToe> it's hard for anyone to critize clinton when his followup act was bush
[21:55] <dfeuer> GW Bush is hard to underrate. GHW Bush I honestly know very little about.
[21:55] <dfeuer> I was only a kid when he was in office.
[21:56] <dfeuer> I know he did the whole Gulf War thing, but I don't know too much else.
[21:56] <Pharos> he saved us from that whole martian thing
[21:56] <TeeTylerToe> ghw bush was replaced by clinton because when the economy soured a little he raised taxes to lower the deficit.  He must have been some kind of democrat
[21:56] <Pharos> will always be well-remembered for that
[21:57] <TeeTylerToe> wonder if he ever met george w bush, they have the same last name
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[21:57] <Guerillero> they are father and son
[21:57] <Pharos> really?
[21:57] <Pharos> is this like a birther conspiracy theory?
[21:57] <dfeuer> Pharos: Martian thing?
[21:58] <TeeTylerToe> next you're going to tell me george w. bush was born in massachusettes and was educated in the nort
[21:58] <TeeTylerToe> north
[21:58] <Pharos> you don't remember the cyclinder that landed in New Jersey?
[21:58] <Pharos> they had to call in the national guard ans everything
[21:58] <dfeuer> Not so much.
[21:58] <dfeuer> What was it, an old U.S. spy satellite?
[21:59] <Pharos> ghw bush got bipartisan support on that one
[21:59] <Pharos> (I'm joshing with you)
[21:59] <harej> TeeTylerToe: George W. Bush was born in Connecticut, not Massachusetts.
[21:59] <Pharos> you never heard of War of the Worlds?
[22:00] <TeeTylerToe> I thought the bush compound was in MA
[22:00] <harej> the bushes are from connecticut, yo
[22:00] <TeeTylerToe> I'm sure you're right
[22:00] <Pharos> they're not boston brahmins
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[22:00] <Pharos> that would be too cosmopolitan
[22:00] <TeeTylerToe> some wag in the George H W Bush administration called "cheney" said that invading Iraq would be a quagmire
[22:01] <TeeTylerToe> that it would be nation building, and there would be an insurgency
[22:01] <TeeTylerToe> wonder what happened to him
[22:01] <Demiurge1000> He was a dick.
[22:01] <harej> He exited the vice presidency in a wheelchair. Then he got a heart transplant and lost a ton of weight.
[22:01] <Seddon> HAH HAH ha...... ha.
[22:02] <Pharos> i don't get what's wrong with "nation building"
[22:02] <Pharos> former yougoslavia worked a lot better than iraq
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[22:02] <TeeTylerToe> it's like trying to rebuild detroit
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[22:03] <Pharos> or japan
[22:03] <TeeTylerToe> nobody wants it, it will be a money sink, and a lot of people will be killed
[22:03] <Pharos> or germany
[22:03] <Pharos> or britain
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[22:03] <Seddon> Or every former colony
[22:03] <Pharos> or any other country that's been successfully rebuilt
[22:03] <Seddon> cept the aussies
[22:03] <Seddon> they went swimmingly well
[22:04] <Seddon> and new zealand, there is nothing there to fight over
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[22:04] <Pharos> building nations isn't such a bad thing
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[22:04] <Pharos> it's breaking them to smithereens that's bad
[22:04] <Seddon> Its also expensive
[22:04] <Pharos> war is usually more expensive
[22:05] <TeeTylerToe> you would think the US would have been able to restore electricity to baghdad more quickly
[22:05] <Pharos> germany could have used some nation-building after world war one!
[22:06] <TeeTylerToe> west germany after ww2 too
[22:06] <TeeTylerToe> no east
[22:06] <Peter-C> When I go take my flight on Friday, would it be normal to ask the TSA for a strip search?
[22:07] <Peter-C> And a colonoscopy
[22:07] <TeeTylerToe> you can go through the nudie scanners
[22:08] <harej> ...a colonoscopy?
[22:08] <harej> Yes, the TSA is going to make you do the several hours of prep work.
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[22:09] <harej> "Sir, before you can board this plan you will have to drink this gallon jug..."
[22:10] <Peter-C> Better idea
[22:10] <Pharos> a free colonscopy would be a bonus
[22:10] <Peter-C> What if I take my pants off at the checkpoint and say “I’m ready and prepped for my colonoscopy”
[22:10] <TeeTylerToe> They could do cancer screenings at the same time.
[22:11] <TeeTylerToe> Very convenient
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[22:11] <Peter-C> And take an x-ray
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[22:11] <Pharos> also, they could spay and neuter your pets
[22:12] <Peter-C> Good idea
[22:13] <Peter-C> And they can charge for all of this
[22:13] <Peter-C> Government makes money, your prostate is happy
[22:13] <Peter-C> win win
[22:14] <OlEnglish> my prostitute is happy?
[22:14] <Pharos> i hope, for your sake
[22:14] <Pharos> you wouldn't like your prostate when it's angry
[22:15] <Peter-C> OlEnglish - read that mega wrong
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[22:15] <Peter-C> No, wait, I read it correctly
[22:15] <Peter-C> You know your prostitute is happy when they pay you
[22:15] <Peter-C> Quote me on that
[22:15] <OlEnglish> that would make YOU the prostitute!
[22:16] <Peter-C> Or awesome in the sack
[22:16] <TeeTylerToe> Also spay and neuter your school age children
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[22:21] <Isarra> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tiger_versus_lion#editsemiprotected
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[22:22] <Mdann52> That name sounds familiar...
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[22:27] <Mdann52> Oh... That TLDR one
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[22:30] <Riley> Is there a policy about mass editing ?
[22:30] <Riley> And when I say "mass" I mean fast (AKA flooding)
[22:31] <Guerillero> yes
[22:31] <Demiurge1000> There is WP:MASSCREATION
[22:31] <Guerillero> WP:BOTPOL
[22:31] <Guerillero> whats up?
[22:32] <Demiurge1000> and also WP:MASTURBATION
�06[22:32] * Isarra hits Demiurge1000 with a frying pan.
[22:32] <Isarra> WP:BEANS, man.
[22:32] <Demiurge1000> mmm, bacon
[22:32] <Guerillero> There is Demiurge?
[22:32] <Demiurge1000> There is always Demiurge.
�06[22:33] * Peter-C pulls Guerillero’s beard
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[22:33] <Demiurge1000> Kind of like the poor, if you're into Abrahamic religions.
[22:33] <Guerillero> :o
[22:33] <Riley> WP:MASSCREATION is about creating articles tho?
[22:33] <Guerillero> PM me the link if you would like
[22:34] <Riley> It's nothing serious :)
[22:34] <Guerillero> ok
[22:34] <Riley> I am just looking for a policy that states not to edit fast
[22:34] <Guerillero> at one time there were vandals that were bots
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�06[22:35] * Isarra suddenly gets an urge to make a mass of typo fixes all at once.
[22:35] <Riley> Can someone get blocked for editing fast?:P
[22:36] <Guerillero> look at the Rich Farmbrough arbcom case
[22:36] <Riley> link?
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[22:37] <dfeuer> Ooh.... There is someone named Riley here. I like that name.
[22:37] <TeeTylerToe> let the hate flow through you Isarra!
�06[22:37] * TeeTylerToe is sith
�06[22:37] * Isarra drops inkscape on TeeTylerToe.
[22:37] <Riley> Ooh.... There is someone named David here. I like that name.
[22:37] <TeeTylerToe> 0.o
[22:37] <Riley> Your last name sounds french :O is it?
[22:39] <Riley> Guerillero: Do you have a link for the arbcom case?
[22:39] <Guerillero> I am getting it. My internet is slow today
[22:40] <dfeuer> There's an /article/ on Tiger_versus_lion?  What kind of joke is that?
[22:40] <Guerillero> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rich_Farmbrough
[22:41] <Kraps> wheres the meerkat vs ferret article
[22:41] <Kraps> or pirates vs. ninjas
[22:41] <Demiurge1000> cobra versus honey badger!
[22:41] <Kraps> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_vs._ninjas
[22:41] <Guerillero> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rich_Farmbrough
[22:42] <dfeuer> Riley: nope. It's from the German Feuerwerker (my family spells it Feuerwerger). We're not German (we're eastern European-derived Jews), but I guess there must have been German names flying around eastern Europe....
[22:42] <Guerillero> blarg
[22:42] <Riley> AH
[22:42] <dfeuer> Lions and tigers and bears
[22:42] <dfeuer> Also, Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
[22:42] <dfeuer> I'm sorry, but that's an absurd article.
[22:45] <Guerillero> there are worse
[22:45] <OlEnglish> [[Goodsall's rule]]
[22:45] <OlEnglish> what a thing to be named after
[22:45] <Peter-C> I would be a great traffic cop
[22:45] <Isarra> Is brandy a good substitute for tea?
[22:46] <Peter-C> I would run into every situation screaming “hands in the air motherfucker”
[22:46] <Peter-C> And it would work.
[22:46] <Peter-C> And yes.
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[22:54] <Peter-C> Gfoley4!
[22:54] <Peter-C> Go to bed.
[22:55] <Isarra> Peter-C: Go to bed.
[22:55] <Peter-C> No you.
[22:55] <Isarra> Good idea.
[22:55] <Peter-C> :o
[22:55] <Riley> Peter-C: Go to bed
[22:55] <Riley> Its past your bedtime
�06[22:55] * Mdann52 puts Peter-C in bed
[22:55] <Peter-C> Riley - go make love with your girlfirend
�06[22:55] * Peter-C breaks out
[22:56] <Riley> Peter-C: Somehow her girlfriends have dragged her to L.A
[22:56] <Riley> So no
[22:56] <Peter-C> da faq
[22:57] <Peter-C> Did you ever buy her that camera?
[22:57] <Peter-C> Maybe she wants it so she can capture moments with you :o
[22:57] <Riley> Well lets just say my credit card was used
[22:58] <Peter-C> :o
[22:58] <Peter-C> Who uses a cop for money O_o
[22:58] <Mdann52> Cue evil chords from the organ
[22:58] <Riley> Don't worry, ahaha. She still loves me :)
[22:58] <Peter-C> :3
[22:58] <Riley> I think... O.o
[22:59] <Peter-C> Lock her in a room and make her confese her love you you 1,024 times
[22:59] <Peter-C> No more, no less
[22:59] <Riley> Why 1,024 times? xD
[22:59] <Peter-C> Beasue, fuck you, that’s why.
[22:59] <Peter-C> ._.
[22:59] <Peter-C> My logic is awesome
�06[22:59] * Riley cries in the corner
[23:00] <Peter-C> <3
�06[23:00] * Peter-C huggles Riley
[23:00] <Riley> Fuck your logic
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[23:00] <Riley> Hehee
[23:00] <Peter-C> Magog_the_Ogre loves my logic
[23:00] <Magog_the_Ogre> eh
[23:00] <harej> Peter-C, why is there no Wikipedia article on implantation bleeding?
�06[23:01] * Riley waits for Isarra to break out the frying pan
[23:01] <Peter-C> surgical complication bro
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[23:01] <Magog_the_Ogre> can someone explain to me why we have both [[cockfight]] and [[cockfighting]]?
[23:01] <Peter-C> Also specifcs. What type of transplant?
�06[23:01] * Mdann52 repeatedly hits Peter-C with the frying pan
[23:01] <Magog_the_Ogre> at very most, one of those pages should be a disambig
[23:01] <harej> ...Okay, I'm not going to ask Peter-C about gynaecology ever again.
[23:01] <Peter-C> Ha. I’m an EMT, I can’t get hurt.
[23:02] <Peter-C> harej - ectopic pregnancy?
[23:02] <Brooke> Isarra: Prove it.
[23:02] <Riley> THATS IT IM MAD! Who said Mdann52 use a frying pan?
[23:02] <Peter-C> harej - you were refering to *that* implant
[23:02] <Riley> Spelling fail ._.
[23:02] <Peter-C> Dude, I assumed you meant brest augmentation.
[23:02] <harej> Peter-C, it is, in fact, called "implantation bleeding," but Wikipedia is implying it is different from first trimester bleeding: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_trimester_bleeding>.
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[23:03] <Peter-C> QuestionL why are you looking into this form of bleeding?
[23:04] <Peter-C> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=notKtAgfwDA&feature=player_detailpage#t=35s
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[23:05] <Riley>  "The uploader has not made this video available in your country. Sorry about that." Racist to canadians?
[23:06] <Mdann52> :))
[23:06] <Peter-C> pfft, canadians
[23:08] <Isarra> Brooke: Prove what?
[23:08] <Brooke> Isarra: It!
�06[23:10] * Isarra stuffs it up Brooke's nose.
[23:10] <Brooke> Isarra: MY VECTORIZATION WAS FINE.
[23:11] <Isarra> It was fine for a machine tracing.
[23:11] <Brooke> I'm not sure what that means.
[23:11] <Mdann52> May I just ask, are non-admins allowed to do anything regarding empty unblock requests?
[23:11] <Brooke> Pout.
[23:11] <Brooke> Isarra: I hand-traced that unicorn.
[23:12] <Isarra> ...oh.
[23:12] <Brooke> Also, I forgive you.
[23:12] <Isarra> Okay, you suck.
[23:12] <Isarra> ...except worded more politely?
[23:12] <Brooke> Isarra: Your tracing was barely much better!
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[23:13] <TeeTylerToe> you could leave a note on the person requesting the ublock to add a reason
[23:13] <Isarra> At low resolution, they're essentially the same.At big resolution, however...
�06[23:13] * Peter-C dances around in an electronic trance
[23:13] <Brooke> Oh, I didn't blow them up.
[23:13] <Isarra> Lumps! Curves! Corners!
[23:13] <Isarra> But one of the main reasons for vectorising is scalability!
[23:13] <Brooke> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/Wikimedia_Labs_logo_notext.svg/1000px-Wikimedia_Labs_logo_notext.svg.png
[23:14] <Peter-C> Fuck yes.
[23:14] <Brooke> Looks like a unicorn to me.
[23:14] <Peter-C> I would ride that into battle.
[23:14] <norbit> Brooke: wtf is that supposed to be
[23:14] <Brooke> norbit: A UNICORN.
[23:14] <Peter-C> Unicorns are virgin ponys ._.
[23:14] <Peter-C> Which is why there are non left.
�06[23:14] * Peter-C runs
[23:14] <Isarra> IT'S LUMPY.
�06[23:14] * Peter-C learned that from someone at Wikimania
[23:15] <norbit> Isarra: thats what...
[23:15] <Peter-C> Isarra - UNICORNS HAVE LUMPS BUT THEY ARE THE MOST MAGESTIC LAND CREATURE
[23:15] <Riley> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Community_boat_logo.svg/2000px-Community_boat_logo.svg.png
[23:15] <harej> Isarra: no unicorn body-shaming
[23:15] <Riley> So much better
[23:15] <Peter-C> ^
[23:15] <Brooke> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Wikimedia_labs_logo.svg/1000px-Wikimedia_labs_logo.svg.png
[23:16] <Isarra> That's less lumpy.
[23:16] <norbit> "I'm Katy Perry and I'm going to be on How I Met Your Mother this week"
[23:16] <Brooke> It has less character, you mean.
[23:16] <Brooke> Look at that plain Jane snout.
[23:16] <norbit> "I'm Neil Patrick Harris and I'm going to be on Katy Perry this week."
[23:16] <Isarra> And fewer lumps.
[23:17] <Isarra> It has CURVES.
[23:17] <Isarra> Like a real woman.
[23:17] <Isarra> IShadowed has curves too.
[23:18] <Isarra> BECAUSE SHE'S REAL.
[23:18] <IShadowed> wut
[23:18] <IShadowed> yeah
[23:18] <IShadowed> women fuck yeah
[23:18] <Isarra> Yes.
[23:18] <Peter-C> Fuck yea! :D
[23:18] <Isarra> Okay, so some women actually are pretty lumpy, but that's beside the point.
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[23:19] <Brooke> Why do you hate women and unicorns?
[23:19] <Isarra> Maybe Brandon Harris can clear this up for us.
[23:19] <Isarra> Since apparently he 'hand-built' it.
[23:19] <Peter-C> Is he up?
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[23:19] <Peter-C> I thought he would have retired to his chambers.
[23:20] <Isarra> Who knows, but he may soon find a rather lumpy unicorn sat upon him.
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[23:24] <Riley> Well um I'm blown away; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LaWWx6F1Fs
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[23:26] <Brooke> I clicked that link.
[23:26] <Riley> And?
[23:26] <Brooke> I closed the windows after a few seconds.
[23:26] <Brooke> window
[23:26] <Riley> O..
[23:27] <Riley> You have to give her credit for writing the song tho
[23:27] <Brooke> She's no Gaga.
[23:27] <Peter-C> Is that your girlfirend?
[23:27] <Riley> I wish she was
�06[23:27] * Peter-C slaps Riley
[23:27] <Peter-C> bad.
[23:27] <Peter-C> BAD.
[23:27] <Peter-C> Bad.
[23:27] <Riley> Shhh you minor ;)
[23:28] <Riley> :O
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[23:28] <Riley> Brooke: I am glad "She's no Gaga"
[23:28] <Riley> Because shes here own unique self
[23:29] <Brooke> Lady Gaga can sing and play the piano, though.
[23:30] <Riley> Katy was just doing the same thing..
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[23:30] <dfeuer> OlEnglish: [[Goodsall's rule]] is a perfectly decent article topic, though it could be written more clearly.
[23:30] <OlEnglish> yeah i know
�06[23:31] * Peter-C calls Riley’s gielfriend
[23:31] <OlEnglish> i was just commenting on how it must suck to have your name forever associated with an anal fistula
[23:31] <Riley> O.o
[23:31] <Peter-C> I’m telling her you love another woman
�06[23:32] * dfeuer attempts to interpret the sentence "Somehow her girlfriends have dragged her to L.A." Tentative interpretation: Riley is talking about herself in the third person.
[23:32] <TeeTylerToe> I'm not sure that article should have a simple english version
[23:33] <Riley> dfeuer: Well first of all, I am a guy.
�06[23:33] * Mdann52 interprets it differently - the girlfriend's friends have dragged her off...
[23:34] <TeeTylerToe> that's what they all say
[23:34] <Riley> Second, I wasn't an A student in English, sorry.
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[23:34] <dfeuer> Brooke: that clearly has much larger ears than a unicorn. It must be a donkey.
[23:34] <Riley> Secondly* See did it again
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[23:36] <dfeuer> Sorry, Riley, if you weren't talking about yourself in the third person, I have no idea who "she" was.
[23:37] <Brooke> dfeuer: A donkey in a party hat.
[23:37] <dfeuer> Oh, I see now. Mdann52 must've gotten it right.
[23:37] <Peter-C> https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/406271_484209004939988_1064352388_n.jpg
[23:37] <dfeuer> The word "girlfriend" is too ambiguous.
[23:37] <Riley> dfeuer: I wasn't talking to you someone who knew what I mean't so it didn't matter..
[23:37] <dfeuer> Yeah.
[23:38] <dfeuer> Riley: what's your native language?
[23:38] <Riley> Brb gonna switch to my computer ._. damn phone
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[23:43] <Riley> There. :)
�06[23:46] * Peter-C lcisk Riley
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[23:47] <Mdann52> I've just had someone ask me for the log of a conversation on 20th April?!!!!?
�06[23:47] * Riley is scared to know what "lcisk" means O.o 
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[23:48] <BlastHardcheese> Mdann52: What, you don't record everything you've ever done on the internets?
[23:48] <Mdann52> I wasn't even on the channel back in April.....
[23:49] <Mdann52> It was -help......
[23:50] <Mdann52> Oh well, they ran off
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[00:16] <OlEnglish> aaand how!
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[00:30] <The_Thing> Is it just me, or are yellowjacket wasps becoming immune to wasp/hornet spray?
[00:32] <The_Thing> The little shits are literally not dying after the stuff being sprayed directly onto them
[00:33] <Riley> Children, children. Watch the profanity please
[00:33] <delirious> should the thing that should not be be questioning the resiliance of anything?
[00:33] <Riley> We don't want to cause a war with the wasps
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[00:38] <Pine> Pines don't like wasps either. Wasps build nests in pines.
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[00:43] <Apheori> Do the nests actually harm the trees?
[00:45] <OlEnglish> [[Dick-a-Dick]], now there's a cool name
[00:46] <OlEnglish> i can just picture how his parents named him that... "look hun! dick! a dick!!!, it's a boy!!"
[00:47] <OlEnglish> ;P
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[00:48] <The_Thing> We've even sealed up the area where the nest is (a crack in our foundation) with concrete...
[00:49] <The_Thing> The bastards are still flying around the area after a week, trying to figure out how to get in
[00:50] <The_Thing> Persistent, resilient little shits that I wish were wiped off the face of the Earth.
[00:50] <The_Thing> Along with Mosquitos
[00:50] <Apheori> Next time you could try burning them.
[00:50] <Apheori> May not be any more effective, but it is satisfying.
[00:50] <The_Thing> And burn our house down? No thanks
[00:50] <The_Thing> Though I did burn a colony of ants once :p
[00:51] <Apheori> Concretr basement, right? Just contain it.
[00:51] <The_Thing> Yep. The ones that were outside at the time are still trying to find a way back in
[00:52] <The_Thing> And we're praying that where the nest is isn't in some deeper area of hour house, which consists of pretty much all wood and plasterboard
[00:52] <Apheori> >.<
[00:52] <The_Thing> Though I'd be surprised if they weren't dead by now
[00:52] <The_Thing> The ones that are sealed in, that is
[00:53] <The_Thing> Our whole town is having wasp problems
[00:53] <The_Thing> 3 seperate stores are out of stock of wasp spray
[00:53] <Pine> Apheori: I don't think the nests harm the trees but trees don't like insects in general.
[00:54] <The_Thing> 2 of them being Walmarts, no less
[00:54] <Apheori> They like useful insects.
[00:54] <Pine> Unless they're pollinating insects and the trees are flowering trees
[00:54] <Apheori> Or ones that eat pests or remove decaying stuff or such.
[00:54] <Pine> The "decaying stuff" is what I call my bark, and I like it left alone, thank you.
[00:55] <Apheori> There are probably weirder symbiotic relationships, but I can't think of any.
[00:55] <Pine> Those little fish that clean shark teeth.
[00:55] <Apheori> The bark shouldn't decay, but repairs go better without dead matter in the way.
[00:55] <Apheori> That kind of thing, yes, but I was thinking more specifically.
[00:56] <The_Thing> I mean, around here, the town sprays for mosquitoes, so those are never seen... WHY DA FUQ CAN'T THEY SPRAY FOR WASPS!?
[00:56] <Apheori> Mosquitos carry diseases.
[00:56] <Apheori> Wasps are just annoying.
[00:56] <The_Thing> And wasps carry venom which can kill people who are allergic
[00:56] <The_Thing> My best childhood friend being among one of those people
[00:56] <Apheori> I never said it made sense. It's just the logic that's used.
[00:57] <Apheori> People need to panic and fight back against something, and they chose mosquitos.
[00:57] <The_Thing> They must be afraid they'll kill bees and shit
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[00:58] <The_Thing> Bees I don't mind... if you don't bother them, they don't bother you... but a wasp will come after you if you so much as look at one wrong... >.>
[00:59] <Apheori> Tried punching them?
[00:59] <Apheori> I finf the usually leave after doing that.
[00:59] <The_Thing> And I find that they usually swarm after me after doing that
[01:00] <Apheori> Hmm...
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[01:00] <Apheori> Perhaps it helps if you're pretty. I'm pretty and they never react that way for me.
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[01:04] <The_Thing> lol
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[01:30] <Pine> Apheori: {{cn}}
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[01:32] <Pine> Hi Ironolds
[01:33] <Ironholds> hey, Pine :)
[01:34] <Ironholds> how goes it?
[01:34] <Sp33dyphil> Ironholds, Pine: hi
[01:34] <Pine> Hi Sp33dyphil. Guess what I'm reading?
[01:34] <Sp33dyphil> hmm
[01:34] <Sp33dyphil> a book?
[01:34] <Ironholds> hey Sp33dyphil :)
[01:35] <Pine> "Quieter, Cheaper, Greener: Airliners in 2030"
[01:35] <Sp33dyphil> ohh, is it a book?
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[01:36] <Pine> It's an article in Aviation Weekly
[01:36] <Sp33dyphil> Ironholds: how are you?
[01:36] <Pine> er, Aviation Week
[01:36] <Sp33dyphil> URL?
[01:37] <Ironholds> Sp33dyphil: goes well! Just spent a long day on the American River tubing
[01:37] <Ironholds> I am very sore and lost two shirts after swimming through the rapids
[01:37] <Ironholds> but I KEPT MY HAT, DAMMIT.
[01:37] <Sp33dyphil> sounds fun :)
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[01:38] <Ironholds> it was! :D
[01:38] <Ironholds> although I appear to have cut a circle the size of a cigarette end out of my foot
[01:38] <Pine> Sp33dyphil: I only have the physical copy but it looks like there's a similar article at http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/1866993/beauty_of_future_airplanes_more_than_skin_deep/
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[01:39] <Pine> ironholds: where is this American River?
[01:39] <Ironholds> starts off just above Sacramento at Lake Natoma, continues down until it empties into the bay
[01:39] <Sp33dyphil> Pine: I hope the Chinese won't dominate the aircraft market with their cheap planes.
[01:39] <Ironholds> although you don't start at Lake Natoma unless you really, really want to fall over a dam. twice.
[01:40] <Pine> Sp33dyphil: would you get on an aircraft with Chinese engineering and manufacturing? I don't know about you, but I don't trust the safety of anything complex that's made in China. I've had too many bad experiences with things falling apart.
[01:40] <mareklug> Sp33dyphil:  from the preorders looks like the Canadians might, with their expensive ones
[01:41] <Sp33dyphil> Pine: the Chinese can't make stuff that are sophisticated
[01:41] <Sp33dyphil> bbl
[01:42] <Ironholds> they can
[01:42] <Ironholds> the new bay bridge was built in china
[01:42] <Ironholds> slave labour GETS SHIT DONE
[01:43] <Apheori> Pine: Huh?
[01:43] <Apheori> Also, I love wikipedians.
[01:44] <Apheori> Respond to potential conflict so amazingly, some of them...
[01:44] <nprice> shut up @ all i am trying to sleep
[01:44] <nprice> every time you chat my terminal beeps
[01:44] <nprice> seriously adopt some normal hours
[01:44] <Ironholds> nprice: then turn off your goddamn computer and accept that NOT EVERYONE LIVES IN THE SAME TIMEZONE AS YOU
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[01:44] <Apheori> .
[01:45] <nprice> rrrr
[01:45] <Ironholds> which is good, because based on the above comment you're an asshat, and one I'd hate to be in close proximity to.
[01:45] <nprice> 55
[01:45] <nprice> away yi go
[01:45] <Apheori> And then there's Ironholds...
[01:45] <nprice> and throw pish at yersel
[01:45] <nprice> ya fucken rocket
[01:46] <Ironholds> nprice: are you scottish?
[01:46] <nprice> what's it to ya
[01:46] <nprice> i will tell you this i am good n proper loaded
[01:46] <Ironholds> if you are scottish, it's currently 10am on a monday and you shouldn't complain "holy heck people are awake"
[01:46] <nprice> rrrr
[01:46] <Ironholds> if you are merely trying to mock me, I am English you silly bugger.
[01:46] <Ironholds> Apheori: I respond well to some potential conflicts. and hey, you know I am less awful at it than
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[01:46] <Ironholds> *I used to be
[01:46] <nprice> don't be a wido
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[01:47] <Ironholds> a wido? wido is not a *word*. and it is most definitely not scottish slang
[01:47] <Ironholds> proper scottish slang would be if I told you to haud yer wheesht, ya fucken jakey cunt.
[01:47] <Apheori> Hey, you're lovely. You're just not at all the sort of wikipedian I was thinking of.
[01:47] <nprice> some of us are awake at thsi out and tuning to nog have a hangofer
[01:47] <Ironholds> why thank you, m'dear. you're not so bad yerself :)
[01:47] <nprice> so shut it
[01:47] <Ironholds> nprice: then turn your computer off; see point 1.
[01:47] <Apheori> I'm learning from wikipedians.
[01:47] <Apheori> They're awesome.
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[01:47] <nprice> turn yer fkn chathole off
[01:48] <Apheori> nprice: If you're serious. turn the thing off.
[01:48] <Apheori> If you're not, please shut up.
[01:48] <nprice> rrrrr
[01:48] <Ironholds> Apheori: this is one of the reasons why you're not so bad yourself
[01:48] <nprice> gotta go to yoker in a few
[01:48] <nprice> fkn knock it off
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[01:48] <Ironholds> nprice, either turn your computer off or stop talking
[01:48] <nprice> u
[01:49] <nprice> that's what i'm asking of you
[01:49] <Ironholds> if you simply persist in doing neither, I will call one of the lovely ops who will proceed to quiet you, solving our problem but not yours.
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[01:49] <nprice> like i said
[01:49] <nprice> rocket
[01:49] <Apheori> Uh-huh.
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[01:49] <Ironholds> do you know what a rocket is, nprice? a rocket is a real rum one. A rocket is a proper. fucking. bampot.
[01:49] <Ironholds> if I were a rocket, pissing me off would be so goddamn stupid that when they found your corpse they'd mark it as a suicide.
[01:50] <Ironholds> anyway. Quiet down and turn your computer off. Or hey, just turn your sound off.
[01:50] <Apheori> Do you suppose the local healthy weirdos grocer is open at two in the morning?
[01:50] <Ironholds> Apheori: probably not, they're healthy. consult the google?
[01:50] <nprice> kd;;;l
[01:50] <Apheori> I don't remember what the place is called.
[01:51] <Apheori> I just know it took up residence where an Albertsons used to be.
[01:51] <Apheori> And it has an insane assortment of nuts.
[01:51] <nprice> albertson sounds like a punk
[01:51] <Apheori> Nuts make good meal substitutes, right?
[01:51] <nprice> i may be good and proper pished this early
[01:51] <nprice> but
[01:51] <nprice> shut it
[01:52] <norbit> Apheori: :O you lied.
[01:52] <Ironholds> Apheori: indeed
[01:52] <Apheori> Can we call the ops yet?
[01:52] <Apheori> norbit: I'm in bed.
[01:52] <Ironholds> we most definitely can, dear heart
[01:52] <Ironholds> will you do the honours?
[01:52] <nprice> what are you gonna do
[01:52] <norbit> hm, you did say you were going to bed
[01:52] <nprice> JESUS JOSEPH AND MARY AND SEVENTEEN HANDS AROUND NPRICE HAS BEEN DRINKGINGAGAIN
[01:52] <Ironholds> !ops
[01:52] <Apheori> !ops please quiet a really annoying nprice cake
[01:52] <nprice> [✔] rude [ ] same [ ] true
[01:53] <norbit> Apheori: you are a troll.
[01:53] <Ironholds> a cake made of nprice? that sounds unpleasant on multiple levels.
[01:53] <Ironholds> norbit: be nice.
[01:53] <Apheori> norbit: Har.
[01:53] <Ironholds> (it's funny because it is a tiered cake, you see)
[01:53] <Pine> Sadly, I am not an op in this channel or I would take care of it.
[01:53] <nprice> you find yourself eating me you're gonna find yourself someplace else i reckon
[01:53] <Apheori> My head hurts.
[01:53] <Ironholds> probably the toilet
[01:53] <nprice> ↑
[01:53] <Ironholds> Apheori: have you drunk water recently?
[01:53] <norbit> sleep fixes that.
[01:53] <Ironholds> if not, I would advise it.
[01:53] <Apheori> Yes.
[01:54] <Apheori> I'm trying to sleep.
[01:54] <nprice> Ironholds: shouldn't you be giving em the same words ah wisdon
[01:54] <Apheori> Sort of
[01:54] <Apheori> .
[01:54] <Apheori> I can totally type.
[01:54] <Ironholds> nprice: sorry?
[01:54] <norbit> Apheori: If you're trying to sleep, push the shutdown button :O
[01:54] <nprice> i have consumed two bottles of lagavulin
[01:54] <nprice> does that compute
[01:54] <nprice> ya fucken rocket
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[01:55] <Apheori> I don't need to press a button. Don't even need to move the computer usually.
[01:55] <Apheori> Hells, I've fallen asleep with it on my face before. >.>
[01:55] <norbit> (the virtual button)
[01:55] <nprice> go awaya im goin to yoker with l=limmy
[01:55] <norbit> maybe that's the source of your headache?
[01:55] <Ironholds> nprice: yes, it computes that you are not awful an atrociously unpleasant drunk but that you have an equally atrocious taste in alcohol
[01:55] <norbit> face-keyboarding?
[01:56] <nprice> goan fk yersel
[01:56] <Apheori> No, it's probably my pillow. I'm using the lint-filled one for some reason.
[01:56] <Apheori> nprice: Seriously, please leave.
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[01:56] <Ironholds> so get the other one?
[01:56] <nprice> lagavulin is the best whisky
[01:56] <Apheori> Which other one? It's on top of three others.
[01:56] <nprice> isalyyyyyy
[01:56] <Ironholds> it's really not.
[01:56] <nprice> what pish do you drink then
[01:57] <Ironholds> arbeg is good. caol ila is good. Talisker is good. Bowmore is acceptable. Laphroaig is good.
[01:57] <Ironholds> Lavaulin tastes like jet fuel that has been passed by a cat.
[01:57] <nprice> you've listed my other favourites from islay
[01:57] <nprice> were you dropped on yer head
[01:57] <Ironholds> talisker isn't an islay.
[01:57] <Ironholds> talisker is from the Isle of skye.
[01:57] <nprice> duh
[01:57] <WilliamH_UK> nprice...tone it down please
[01:57] <Ironholds> indeed, the only single malt from the Isle of Skye.
[01:57] <nprice> but laphroaig
[01:58] <nprice> n ardbeg
[01:58] <nprice> both islay
[01:58] <Ironholds> indeed. now, are you going to act like an adult, or continue telling us to shut up?
[01:58] <nprice> laphroaig is a fuckin rench
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[01:59] <Shirik> nprice
[01:59] <Shirik> this is the english wikipedia channel
[01:59] <Shirik> please use english
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[01:59] <Ironholds> Shirik: he is populating it with Scots slang, but otherwise speaking English
[02:00] <nprice> you get yer tegs cleaned
[02:00] <nprice> laphroaig tatsed worse
[02:00] <Shirik> there is only one english; american english
[02:00] <IShadowed> you are such a republican
[02:00] <Ironholds> IShadowed: who is? Shirik?
[02:00] <nprice> UNIFY IRELAND
[02:00] <nprice> shut up
[02:00] <Ironholds> he is indeed the *coach* of team white bread.
[02:01] <Shirik> hey IShadowed
[02:01] <IShadowed> MVP of Team White Bread
[02:01] <Shirik> hot asian dude told me he isn't coming :(
[02:01] <IShadowed> WHAT
[02:01] <IShadowed> no!
[02:01] <nprice> ok fk off im runnin huglge
[02:01] <IShadowed> This means no photos of hot asian dude for months
[02:01] <nprice> ya
[02:01] <IShadowed> Not fair.
[02:01] <Apheori> Guys, I, like, reverted something. Should I panic?
[02:01] <Ironholds> you're editing while drunk, nprice?
[02:01] <WilliamH_UK> nprice there won't be another warning
[02:01] <Ironholds> Apheori: what did you revert?
[02:01] <WilliamH_UK> consider this yer last
[02:01] <Apheori> I don't remember.
[02:02] <nprice> Ironholds: i edit good and proper and all that pish
[02:02] <Shirik> I reverted something too
[02:02] <IShadowed> For some reason, I am considering it a compliment that Ironholds confirms my paleness
[02:02] <Ironholds> nprice: as User:NPrice?
[02:02] <Apheori> Oh no!
[02:02] <Ironholds> Apheori: you're probably safe
[02:02] <IShadowed> Seeing as he too is white as fuck
[02:02] <nprice> Ironholds: that's the one
[02:02] <Ironholds> IShadowed: it is intended as a compliment
[02:02] <Ironholds> pale is good
[02:02] <IShadowed> \o/
[02:02] <IShadowed> agree
[02:02] <Ironholds> nprice: you haven't edited since saturday.
[02:02] <nprice> not yet
[02:02] <Apheori> You two have at least that redeeming quality.
[02:02] <IShadowed> what is this 'skin cancer' of which you speak
[02:02] <Ironholds> you're going to?
[02:03] <IShadowed> what is 'the sun'?
[02:03] <Apheori> It's something that burns.
[02:03] <Ironholds> Apheori: we have many redeeming qualities. We are peppy, dammit.
[02:03] <nprice> yeh
[02:03] <Ironholds> and I spent six hours in direct sunlight today
[02:03] <Apheori> ...peppy?
[02:03] <Ironholds> Apheori: we have vim and vigour.
[02:03] <Ironholds> nprice: okie-dokes; pre-emptive block.
[02:03] <Apheori> You survived that?
[02:03] <nprice> Ironholds: knock it off i'm fine to edit
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[02:04] <nprice> i might be confrontational
[02:04] <Apheori> nprice: Please just go to sleep.
[02:04] <nprice> but this is irc
[02:04] <Apheori> For all our sakes.
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[02:04] <Ironholds> nprice, you're really, quite clearly not
[02:04] <nprice> i can spot vandalism a mile away
[02:05] <Ironholds> Apheori: I did! And I enjoyed it! And didn't melt
[02:06] <Ironholds> because I was on a river, and it was all cool and fun and had good people
[02:06] <Apheori> Damn, and no sunburn?
[02:06] <Apheori> You are so lucky.
[02:06] <Ironholds> indeed! factor 85 sunblock
[02:06] <nprice> - Warning: igloo could not connect to the remote server. Loading stopped.
[02:06] <nprice> wat
[02:06] <Apheori> Ah.
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[02:06] <Apheori> I should get that.
[02:06] <nprice> didja actually block me
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[02:07] <nprice> i don't have parallels set up so i can't run huggle right now
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[02:07] <Ironholds> Apheori: yeah, I know the feeling
[02:07] <Ironholds> we actually got a bit sunburnt WHEN THE SUN WENT DOWN
[02:07] <Ironholds> because it was directly behind us reflecting off the river into our backs
[02:07] <nprice> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH9x4S3-wVY
[02:08] <Ironholds> as opposed to on top, where it runs into my hat.
[02:08] <Apheori> >.<
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[02:08] <Ironholds> having said that, it is very tiring if you fall in. or swim rapids and lose half your clothes.
[02:08] <Ironholds> I ended up wandering around with jeans, a belt and a hat.
[02:08] <Apheori> What were you doing? O_o
[02:09] <Ironholds> well, I was trying to cross the rapids in my tube
[02:09] <Ironholds> then I fell out of the tube while crossing the rapids and ended up hitting the bottom at high speed before having to swim through them
[02:09] <Apheori> I see.
[02:09] <Ironholds> along the way my clothes got soaked, and so I took my shirts off and hung them on the tube
[02:09] <Ironholds> which would have been great if we had then not run into a tree.
[02:10] <Apheori> You ran into a tree?
[02:10] <Ironholds> indeed. there was a submerged tree and we hit it
[02:10] <Apheori> Of course.
[02:11] <Ironholds> but it was an excellent day! there was wet, in california! bliss.
[02:12] <Apheori> Was today really hot?
[02:12] <Apheori> Or was that a different day?
[02:12] <Apheori> In oregon, though, not california... outside dallas.
[02:12] <Apheori> Really hot.
[02:13] <Apheori> Because it's august...
[02:13] <Apheori> Good gods. it's august...
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[02:14] <norbit> Ironholds: you're back in cali?
[02:17] <Ironholds> norbit: indeedy-doody
[02:17] <Ironholds> Apheori: today was hot indeed :)
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[02:17] <Ironholds> 109
�06[02:17] * Apheori hits Ironholds with a frying pan.
[02:18] <Apheori> Curse you.
�06[02:18] * Ironholds glomps Apheori
[02:18] <norbit> go scuba diving!
[02:18] <Ironholds> 109! And I survived!
[02:18] <Ironholds> norbit: not really my scene, to be honest
[02:18] <Apheori> Curse you to the musty hell of rotted oversized zucchinies and horrible mouldy blackberries.
�06[02:18] * norbit removes all frying pans from Apheori's house.
[02:18] <Ironholds> she'll just hit me with a bucket instead
[02:19] <norbit> Ironholds: but fishies are cool :-) and you can do underwater backflips!
[02:20] <Ironholds> they are and I could, but I'm here for 5 more days and they're all workdays :)
[02:20] <norbit> but you have to be the swimmer type, in the course you have to carry 30-50 pounds extra and tread water with it... whilst manually inflating your BCD
[02:20] <Ironholds> which reminds me, I need to schedule my tattooing appointment.
[02:22] <Apheori> Sorry, Ironholds. You just made me really sad there for a bit.
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[02:24] <Ironholds> Apheori: how? :(
�06[02:24] * norbit makes Apheori a frying pan-shaped cookie.
[02:24] <Apheori> You reminded me of something I'd forgotten.
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[02:24] <norbit> I know I made some kind of grammatical flaw there, but I'm too tired to care.
[02:25] <Ironholds> Reedy, you awake?
[02:25] <Ironholds> Apheori: oregon?
[02:26] <Apheori> Yes.
[02:27] <Ironholds> aw :(
�06[02:27] * Ironholds cuddles Apheori
�06[02:28] * Apheori drags Ironholds and Andeye into a swamp.
[02:28] <Ironholds> kinky. I'm game.
[02:29] <Apheori> I meant to drag Andorin.
[02:29] <Apheori> Tab hates me.
�06[02:30] * Andorin only half-heartedly kicks and screams.
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[02:34] <Ironholds> Reedy: well, when you do wake up, ping me :)
[02:39] <Ironholds> urgh. lucid dreams earlier.
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[03:05] <Ironholds> hey, Steven_Zhang
[03:05] <Steven_Zhang> hello
�06[03:05] * Steven_Zhang is wondering whether he will be sneaky :P
[03:06] <Ironholds> oh?
[03:06] <Steven_Zhang> The op ed slot is now technically free
[03:06] <Steven_Zhang> as MzMcBride pushed his back a week
[03:06] <Steven_Zhang> and the DR wikiproject report is out this edition
[03:06] <Steven_Zhang> So I was gonna write an opinion piece on DR
[03:06] <Ironholds> ahh
[03:07] <Steven_Zhang> it'd mean I'd need to put something together in ~10 hours
[03:07] <Steven_Zhang> but I've done more in less before :P
[03:07] <Steven_Zhang> That said, I am a shitty writer. As you know.
[03:07] <Ironholds> indeed, although you are improving at a fairly impressive pace.
[03:08] <Steven_Zhang> I think tonight may be a working night.
[03:09] <Pine> Enjoy billing the overtime!
[03:09] <Steven_Zhang> I also fail at surprises.
[03:09] <Steven_Zhang> Pine: lol.
[03:09] <Steven_Zhang> I don't bill overtime :P
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[03:10] <TeeTylerToe> wmf has a 'zine?
[03:10] <Steven_Zhang> (Suprises: booked a suprise weekend holiday to QLD for wife's birthday - took my wife only days to find out >_>)
[03:10] <Steven_Zhang> a what?
[03:10] <Ironholds> TeeTylerToe: no?
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[03:10] <Ironholds> the signpost is the community newsletter :)
[03:10] <Pine> TeeTylerToe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost
[03:10] <Steven_Zhang> yer
[03:10] <Steven_Zhang> we have the blog tho
[03:11] <Steven_Zhang> Oh yay
[03:11] <Steven_Zhang> Ed says I can do it
�06[03:11] * Ironholds cackles
[03:11] <Ironholds> I am SCHEMING
[03:12] <norbit> Steven_Zhang: :O
[03:12] <norbit> you won't blarg for me
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[03:28] <Apheori> Yay crazy people so many crazy people all over I love you.
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[03:30] <Ironholds> Apheori: you need sleep :)
[03:30] <Apheori> Always.
[03:32] <Ironholds> okay, rephrase. go to sleep :)
[03:32] <Ironholds> get a different pillow!
[03:33] <Apheori> I did an hour ago.
[03:34] <Andorin> Apheori is notoriously bad at this.
[03:34] <Apheori> And neither of you help the situation by being interesting company with even odder hours.
[03:35] <Ironholds> why thank you
[03:35] <Ironholds> and technically my hours are precisely as odd as you because we're in the same timezone
[03:36] <Ironholds> I actually got some sleep earlier. spent most of it lucid dreaming. ugh.
[03:36] <Steven_Zhang> Wonder what time it is there.
[03:36] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: 3:33am PDT
[03:36] <Steven_Zhang> ah
[03:36] <Apheori> Mon, you're up now. That is very odd.
[03:36] <Steven_Zhang> 8:33pm here
[03:36] <Apheori> Normally I wouldn't be.
[03:36] <Apheori> Andorin, on the other hand...
[03:37] <Apheori> I think he always does this.
[03:37] <Andorin> I'm a vile temptress.
[03:37] <Ironholds> Apheori: I'm working on an evil plan :)
[03:37] <Ironholds> it has a diagram of a volcano!
[03:37] <Ironholds> I am presenting it to my boss when he gets in
[03:37] <Apheori> Er...
[03:38] <Apheori> Weird/
[03:38] <Apheori> .
[03:38] <Ironholds> it totally makes sense in context
[03:38] <Ironholds> I use the line "KILL IT WITH FIRE"
[03:38] <Ironholds> and then a diagram of the offending thing being killed with fire.
[03:38] <Apheori> Y'all are bonkers.
[03:39] <Ironholds> I am, but wonderfully so :)
[03:40] <Andorin> Apheori, calling someone bonkers?
[03:40] <Apheori> Andorin: You never met these people! They're crazy, I tell you!
[03:41] <Andorin> Oh, I'm sure they are. But I met you, and I have seen the extent of your crazy.
[03:41] <Apheori> CRAZY!
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�06[03:43] * Apheori pours sauce on the channel for emphasis.
[03:43] <Ironholds> Andorin: I have also met her and can verify that.
[03:43] <Andorin> Good.
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�06[03:45] * Apheori pours sauce on Andorin and Ironholds.
�06[03:45] * Andorin rolls around in it.
[03:46] <Ironholds> Apheori: kinky.
[03:46] <Apheori> >.<
[03:46] <Ironholds> wait. what sort of sauce?
[03:47] <Apheori> Chili sauce.
[03:47] <Ironholds> ew
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[03:47] <Ironholds> not like, ketchup or something tasty?
[03:47] <Apheori> This is much better than ketchup.
[03:47] <Apheori> I mean, really, ketchup? Ew.
[03:48] <Ironholds> okay, can we agree on peanut sauce or something?
[03:48] <Apheori> That doesn't sound very good either.
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[03:49] <Ironholds> hmn. okay, your submissions?
�06[03:50] * IShadowed_ cannot sleep
[03:50] <IShadowed_> Fuck.
[03:50] <TBloemink> Welcome to #wikipedia-en people
�06[03:50] * Ironholds glomps IShadowed
[03:50] <Ironholds> welcome to the midnight express
[03:50] <IShadowed_> ohi
[03:52] <Andeye> Apheori: yeah, a bit of a surprise there to suddenly be dragged into a swamp! :D
[03:52] <Apheori> Do you like swamps?
[03:52] <Apheori> For some reason a lot of people don't seem to.
[03:52] <Jarry1250> Dcoetzee: ping
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[03:54] <Andeye> kinda cool, but maybe not in the context of being dragged into one
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[03:55] <Andorin> "You have a face like a dropped pie." The insult of the day.
[03:55] <Apheori> Well, there are different forms of dragging.
�06[03:56] * wctaiwan hits Apheori with a frying pan full of sedatives
[03:56] <Apheori> wctaiwan, my darling beloved, so good to see you here!
[03:56] <wctaiwan> Wrong time of the day.
�06[03:56] * Apheori swoops down and carries wctaiwan away.
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�06[03:56] * wctaiwan feebly protests
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[03:57] <Andorin> That's what I did. It didn't help.
[03:57] <wctaiwan> no, no, it usually doesn't work...
[03:58] <Apheori> Sorry. I was just so happy to see you, and I didn't even have five bananas in my pocket.
[03:58] <Andorin> Five?
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[03:58] <Apheori> There are a lot of monkeys in the way.
[03:58] <Ironholds> well, four bananas would be silly
[03:58] <Ironholds> and six would be too many
[03:58] <Apheori> You need to get your paddles back, see, so you need the bananas.
[03:59] <Ironholds> I lost a paddle :(
[03:59] <wctaiwan> hey Ironholds.
[03:59] <Apheori> Do you have any cannonballs with which to make up for it?
[03:59] <Andorin> There's a spider on the ceiling. Do I open negotiations, or simply unleash the cat?
[03:59] <Ironholds> hey wctaiwan :)
[03:59] <Ironholds> Apheori: I have..a knife?
[03:59] <wctaiwan> Ironholds, using ':)', on IRC. How times have changed...
[03:59] <Ironholds> Andorin: open negotiations with a hardback book
[03:59] <Ironholds> wctaiwan: I consider you a compadre!
[04:00] <Apheori> Of course you do. You're a wikipedian. What sort of wikipedian doesn't carry a knife?
[04:00] <Andorin> I don't have a pair of stilts high enough.
[04:00] <Andorin> Or even a garbage can.
[04:00] <wctaiwan> Ironholds: likewise. And I had to look that up.
[04:00] <Ironholds> heh
[04:00] <Ironholds> Apheori: one not equipped for the zombie apocalypse
[04:00] <Apheori> At least you weren't the one who used the word initially. Doing that and then having to look it up is embarassing.
[04:01] <Ironholds> I've had to do that on occasion :(
[04:01] <Ironholds> my problem is I read more than I speak. I get pronounciation all wrong
[04:01] <Ironholds> until I was 17 I thought one of Harry Potter's henchpeople was called her-mee-own
[04:01] <Andorin> Humans can survive underwater, but not for very long.
[04:01] <Apheori> I thought that too.
[04:02] <Andorin> Herm-own-ninny!
[04:02] <Apheori> I'm mostly better now because I quit reading, though.
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[04:02] <Ironholds> Apheori: seriously? *hugs*
[04:02] <Ironholds> also, why quit reading? reading is fun
[04:02] <Apheori> Because too many timesinks!
[04:03] <TBloemink> LOL My brother is buying one of them things so you can walk your cat outside xD
[04:03] <Apheori> Reading was a really bad one for me. I'd start and then I'd not be able to stop.
[04:03] <Apheori> Ever.
[04:03] <Apheori> I couldn't even eat meals with other people.
[04:04] <Ironholds> oh, I know that feeling
[04:04] <wctaiwan> I'm sort of like that, but not as bad.
[04:04] <Anna_Frodesiak> wctaiwain!
[04:04] <wctaiwan> hey Anna.
[04:04] <Anna_Frodesiak> more typhoonery is coming
[04:04] <Andorin> ..I don't see the spider anymore.
[04:04] <Andorin> Is this a bad sign?
[04:04] <Ironholds> when I was at primary school I used to drop a pen under the table at the start of every lesson
[04:04] <wctaiwan> yeah I saw :(
[04:04] <Ironholds> and then go under to "find it"
[04:04] <wctaiwan> Andorin: you swallowed it. It's all cool.
[04:04] <Ironholds> and then sit there crosslegged and just read.
[04:04] <Ironholds> by the time I was 7 I'd read every book in the school
[04:04] <Steven_Zhang> Ironholds: are we having a hagger discussion here
[04:04] <Ironholds> no
[04:05] <Andorin> Ironholds: I was accused of dropping pencils deliberately, as an excuse to ignore class. But I was just clumsy.
[04:05] <Steven_Zhang> also, ugh, i hate vector
[04:05] <Apheori> When I was in the fifth grade I realised my elementary school library contained books.
[04:05] <Apheori> So I looked at them and realised they didn't have any I actually wanted to read.
[04:05] <wctaiwan> my mom would tell me not to read while I'm eating, and then I'd proceed to drag the cereal box next to me and read the ingredients list.
[04:05] <Ironholds> Andorin: heh
[04:05] <Apheori> Because they were all little kid books.
[04:05] <wctaiwan> /humblebrag
[04:05] <Ironholds> Apheori: hahah
[04:05] <Apheori> And I was in the middle of the wheel of time at that point, I think.
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[04:06] <Andorin> I tended to ignore the little kid books as well.
[04:06] <Ironholds> Apheori: how old is fifth grade?
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[04:06] <Apheori> 10ish I think.
[04:06] <wctaiwan> I enjoy children's books.
[04:06] <Ironholds> ...you are a scary and wonderful woman.
[04:06] <Apheori> I tended to pick up my brother's books. And he's five years older than me. >.<
[04:07] <wctaiwan> not a bad thing really...
[04:07] <Andorin> I remember Charlotte's Web in first grade (about 6 or 7), a particular Star Wars novel trilogy not long after, and Harry Potter in 4th/5th grade.
[04:07] <Apheori> I found the lord of the rings to be dreadfully boring until I decided to just read one plotline and ignore all the others.
[04:07] <Apheori> It was too much at once for my brain to handle. >.<
[04:08] <Ironholds> Apheori: amen.
[04:08] <Ironholds> SO...MANY...POINTLESS...CHARACTERS!
[04:08] <wctaiwan> LotR was.. meh.
[04:08] <Ironholds> it actually led to me coining something called Tolkein Syndrome
[04:08] <Apheori> It was pretty good in individual plotlines, though.
[04:08] <Ironholds> the introduction of 500 new characters to each chapter. 499 will never reappear, but you MUST MEMORISE ALL OF THEM
[04:08] <Andorin> I didn't end up reading Lord of the Rings for years, sadly.
[04:08] <Apheori> Just too many, especially for a brain that hadn't developed enough for anything like that.
[04:08] <wctaiwan> though I read the translation, and even though I think the translator did a fair job, …much gets lost in English-to-Chinese translation.
[04:09] <Andorin> Not until high school.
[04:09] <Ironholds> because *one of them will*, and if you haven't remembered who the fuck he or she is you will spend 20 minutes leafing back to find out and cursing
[04:09] <Andorin> I have been dreadfully behind on my reading in the past several years, though.
[04:09] <Ironholds> mind you, I was 11
[04:09] <Andorin> Books need Ctrl+F.
[04:09] <Ironholds> I should probably be fair and try it again
[04:09] <wctaiwan> Ironholds: that's why you read the wikipedia article first. :p
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[04:09] <wctaiwan> tells you who the important guys are.
[04:09] <Ironholds> ...wikipedia did not exist when I was 11.
[04:09] <Ironholds> wait, did it? *calculates*
[04:09] <wctaiwan> cliff's notes?
[04:09] <Apheori> No.
[04:10] <Apheori> Wait, how old are you?
[04:10] <Ironholds> okay, it existed when I was 11
[04:10] <Apheori> Oh.
[04:10] <Ironholds> I am 22 now. My birthday was on wednesday.
[04:10] <Ironholds> and none of you got me ANYTHING.
[04:10] <Apheori> Oh, happy birthday.
[04:10] <wctaiwan> we're sorry.
[04:10] <Andorin> Wikipedia existed 11 years ago?
[04:10] <Apheori> Sorry I forgot.
[04:10] <Apheori> It turned 11 this january or something!
[04:10] <Andorin> Nifty.
[04:10] <Ironholds> founded January 2001
[04:11] <Andorin> And yet I'd never heard of it until... several years ago.
[04:11] <Apheori> I know this because it turned 10 the previous january, which was notable to me on account of the fact that I NOTICED.
[04:11] <Ironholds> I encountered it in 04, I think, and started editing in 05
[04:11] <wctaiwan> Ironholds: I hate you. 22 and already a useful person supporting himself.
[04:11] <Ironholds> wctaiwan: I work for the internet, dude
[04:11] <Andorin> xD
[04:11] <Ironholds> here's my job, okay?
[04:11] <Andorin> Wikipedia is too big for me to edit.
[04:11] <Ironholds> there are lots of people who transmit electricity
[04:12] <Ironholds> some of them transmit electricity down pipes my organisation owns
[04:12] <Jarry1250> Andorin: Everyone kinda picks a niche. Almost everyone, anyway.
[04:12] <Ironholds> my job is to make sure we build better electricity processors so that some of those people don't send us electricity that is ANGRY
[04:12] <Apheori> Andorin: Why let a thing like that stand in your way?
[04:12] <Ironholds> Apheori: you don't notice birthdays?
[04:12] <wctaiwan> I'm pretty sure I'd still be living in my parents' house and without a job by the time I'm 22… ><
[04:12] <Apheori> It's not an issue, but a boon!
[04:12] <Apheori> Ironholds: I don't notice days.
[04:12] <Ironholds> Apheori: ahh.
[04:12] <Andorin> Isn't she wonderful?
[04:12] <Ironholds> indeed
[04:12] <mabdul> Ironholds: delete [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dr. Sabir Afaqi]] as copyvio of http://gujjar.com.pk/en/legends/prof-dr-sabir-afaqi/
[04:13] <Apheori> Andorin: Seriously, bacause it's big you can get away with a lot more than you could smaller places.
[04:13] <wctaiwan> Ironholds: by that definition you have failed at your mission already :P
[04:13] <Andorin> Nifty.
[04:13] <wctaiwan> lots of angry electricity.
[04:13] <Apheori> Like being a long-term unmitigated arse.
[04:13] <Ironholds> wctaiwan: no, less people are sending angry electricity
[04:13] <wctaiwan> oh.
[04:13] <Ironholds> Apheori: and you would know this how? ;p
[04:13] <Ironholds> fewer people, rather
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[04:13] <Andorin> Like being a long-term useless unmitigated arse?
[04:13] <Ironholds> anyway, wctaiwan. what are you studying at university?
[04:13] <wctaiwan> CS.
[04:13] <Ironholds> Apheori: ....don't be mean to me.
[04:13] <Ironholds> wctaiwan: and you think we won't have a need for CS monkeys?
[04:13] <Apheori> Ironholds: Eh?
[04:14] <Apheori> I'm referring to myself, here, not you.
[04:14] <Ironholds> oh, I thought you meant me
[04:14] <Apheori> Yeah, just realised that.
[04:14] <Ironholds> you are only two of those things: long term and unmitigated.
[04:14] <Andorin> Don't forget "eggplant".
[04:14] <wctaiwan> Ironholds: I realised today that I'm probably not among the elite in my group. O
[04:14] <wctaiwan> -O
[04:14] <Apheori> What elite?
[04:15] <Apheori> Ironholds: I show up on people's talkpages whingeing about their signatures. That's kind of arsey.
[04:15] <wctaiwan> I'm not particularly depressed about it, but it's a pretty hard fact. I noticed today that another piece of software I've heard about was developed by an alumnus. He's now at one of the labs at MIT doing some crazy thing that has to do with HCI.
[04:15] <Ironholds> Apheori: yes, but you're *right*
[04:15] <Apheori> And that makes it all better?
[04:15] <Ironholds> wctaiwan: dude. I went to a shitty university and got a degree completely unrelated to my job
[04:16] <wctaiwan> such people were generally far more accomplished at this point in their academic life than I am now. (and they also work far harder, but yeah)
[04:16] <Ironholds> who has two thumbs and a job at 22 that rocks harder than those occupied by a lot of 30 year olds?
[04:16] <Ironholds> THIS GUY.
[04:16] <Ironholds> *points to self*
[04:16] <Apheori> wctaiwan: You know what you're doing, though.
[04:16] <Ironholds> you'll be fine
[04:16] <Apheori> That's something.
[04:16] <wctaiwan> (heheh) I'll be fine, but I'm not going to be brilliant or anything.
�06[04:16] * Apheori doesn't want Ironholds' job.
[04:17] <wctaiwan> you know, everyone thinks they're special, and then that erodes as life goes on.
[04:17] <Ironholds> Apheori: I might give it to you just for that
[04:17] <wctaiwan> It's just that my notion of that eroded a bit further today, after that realisation.
[04:17] <Apheori> I know I'm special.
[04:17] <Ironholds> wctaiwan: everyone IS special. there are things you know nobody else does.
[04:17] <Apheori> I'd have to be special to be this incompetent.
[04:17] <Ironholds> Apheori is special and has a note from her doctor saying so
�06[04:17] * Ironholds runs
[04:17] <Apheori> EXACTLY!
[04:17] <Ironholds> also, ow, my foot
�06[04:18] * Ironholds actually does have such a note.
[04:18] <wctaiwan> I don't mean special as in unique. I mean special as in.. y'know, like, the feeling that one is among the people who will make it, who know what they're doing, who are somehow different from all the mundane folks around them.
[04:18] <wctaiwan> surely I'm not the only one to be so egoistic? >_>
[04:19] <wctaiwan> s/to be/to have been/
[04:19] <Apheori> A lot of people think that, but even the ones who pull it off usually just get lucky.
[04:20] <Ironholds> wctaiwan: can I tell you the best thing about working for the foundation?
[04:20] <Ironholds> it is always being the stupidest person in the room.
[04:21] <wctaiwan> I'm sure that's a wonderful feeling :P but yeah, I sort of get what you're saying.
[04:21] <wctaiwan> It feels good to be around people who are smart and have similar values as you do.
[04:21] <Ironholds> that too
[04:21] <Ironholds> but more...I am the stupidest staffer. the office administrator is more knowledgeable and brilliant than me.
[04:21] <Ironholds> and I am surrounded by people who I consider FUCKING GENIUSES, because they are.
[04:21] <Apheori> Not being the stupidest person in the room is fine when the stupider people realise they are in the field and don't try to add their suppsed wisdom to discussions and whatnot.
[04:22] <Apheori> are stupidder inn the field*
[04:22] <Ironholds> ...and they see fit to include me in their discussions. because to these geniuses, my knowhow and knowledge is valued.
[04:22] <Ironholds> because I can do stuff they can't.
�06[04:22] * Andorin is currently too stupid to add to this discussion.
[04:22] <Apheori> Being able to do stuff others can't sucks.
[04:22] <Apheori> Then they expect you to do it.
[04:22] <wctaiwan> XD
[04:22] <Apheori> And there's a lot of it.
�06[04:22] * wctaiwan pats Apheori 
[04:22] <Apheori> And it's like, what the hell.
[04:22] <wctaiwan> I think I know what you're talking about.
[04:22] <Apheori> Why did I ever tell you I could do this?
[04:22] <Apheori> Screw you.
[04:22] <Apheori> >.>
[04:24] <Ironholds> Apheori: sekret project?
[04:24] <Apheori> No, in that I'm moron leading imbeciles.
[04:24] <Ironholds> you're 50 percent correct
[04:24] <Apheori> Er, wait, that's not how the expression goes.
[04:24] <Apheori> But you get the idea.
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[04:25] <Apheori> Basically I have no idea what I'm doing and so I keep wandering off and editing wikipedia instead, because there, at least, that manuals make at least some sense.
[04:26] <Apheori> Which is horrifying because wikipedians write horrible manuals.
[04:26] <Apheori> And yet somehow the mediawikiwiki stuff is even worse.
[04:26] <wctaiwan> off to dinner.
[04:26] <Apheori> Eat well.
�06[04:26] * wctaiwan stuns Apheori into induced sleep with a taser
[04:26] <wctaiwan> taser? tazer?
�06[04:26] * Apheori bleeds.
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�06[04:28] * Ironholds sedates Apheori
[04:28] <Apheori> NOOO!
[04:29] <Apheori> MUST...
[04:29] <Apheori> EDIT...
[04:29] <Apheori> WIKI...
[04:29] <Andorin> I like the frying pan full of sedatives idea.
�06[04:29] * Apheori edits Andorin.
�06[04:29] * Andorin picks up Apheori and deposits her in bed.
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�06[04:30] * Apheori bleeds on Andorin.
�06[04:30] * Andorin gains some of Apheori's power to be bonkers.
[04:30] <Ironholds> that's impossible, she needs all of them
[04:30] <Ironholds> why am I wearing my hat? I don't remember putting it on
[04:31] <Apheori>  Must...
[04:31] <Apheori> Edit...
[04:31] <Apheori> ANI...
[04:31] <Andorin> I'm sure she can get more.
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[04:46] <Ironholds> yo, Seddon :)
[04:46] <Steven_Zhang> yo seddon
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[04:53] <Steven_Zhang> TheCavalry: yo
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[05:27] <mareklug> Valerie Adams retains the gold in shot put after all, after the Belorussian Nadia Ostapchuk is stripped of it for doping
[05:28] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[05:28] <closedmouth> i already knew that because of http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=507190107&oldid=507190088
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[05:29] <Steven_Zhang> cheater
[05:30] <wctaiwan> harsh.
[05:30] <mareklug> Wonder if the Belorussians will jail her for disgracing the fatherland
[05:30] <wctaiwan> I hope they don't.
[05:30] <wctaiwan> cheating at sports shouldn't be a criminal offence...
[05:31] <mareklug> Belorus is lead by a sports-crazed dictator though
[05:31] <mareklug> he is also the head of their olympic committee
[05:32] <wctaiwan> ><
[05:34] <wctaiwan> that's the one that got assaulted by teddy bears and fired two ministers over the incident, right?
[05:34] <TeeTylerToe> A swedish PR firm hired a pilot to drop 500 teddy bears with parachutes and pro liberty messages over belerus, the pilot did it by flying too low for radar.  The dictator fired the head of the border patrol and air defence minister
[05:34] <wctaiwan> yeah XD
[05:34] <mareklug> and kicked out the Swedish ambassador
[05:34] <wctaiwan> that was quite funny.
[05:34] <Steven_Zhang> You notice how you only see the Chinese gold medallists at more than one olympics?
[05:34] <Steven_Zhang> the rest get jailed
[05:35] <Steven_Zhang> for 50 years
[05:35] <TeeTylerToe> That doesn't sound likely
[05:35] <wctaiwan> …no they don't.
[05:35] <Steven_Zhang> its china
[05:35] <wctaiwan> you're misinformed.
[05:35] <mareklug> Steven_Zhang:  a cursory examination of Chinese medalists disproves your thesis
[05:35] <Steven_Zhang> wctaiwan: they step on the legs of little kids
[05:35] <wctaiwan> on the other hand the north korean football team :P
[05:36] <wctaiwan> Steven_Zhang: I don't know what they do. I'm sure it's very harsh. And I'm sure you're in for a lot of trouble if you piss off the wrong people, but they don't jail people who don't win gold.
[05:36] <TeeTylerToe> the north korean weight lifter didn't seem to know that kim jung il has been replaced
[05:36] <Steven_Zhang> wctaiwan: {{cn}}
[05:36] <wctaiwan> WP:BURDEN is on you man.
[05:36] <Steven_Zhang> wctaiwan: remember the mcchicken with onions? :P
[05:36] <Steven_Zhang> pfft, I am the DR guy
[05:37] <Steven_Zhang> don't try and start a dispute with me :P
[05:37] <wctaiwan> yes, well, if you give me a reliable source (and not VICE guide) I'll believe you.
[05:37] <Steven_Zhang> meh
[05:38] <TeeTylerToe> there was a story about north korean medal winners getting refrigerators, while those that didn't medal didn't do very well, but that's not china, and that's not jail for 50 years
[05:38] <Steven_Zhang> too busy writing an op ed
[05:38] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[05:38] <wctai