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Session Start: Mon Dec 19 00:00:01 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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[00:00] <Sp33dyphil> no
[00:00] <topaz> wow: "Google Search: the app is not available"
[00:00] <topaz> that's a new one on me
[00:00] <Sp33dyphil> lol, "Kim Jong Nam, 38,.... was caught trying to enter Japan on a fake passport in 2001 saying he wanted to visit Disney's Tokyo resort." XD
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[00:02] <Steven_Zhang> he died at 69
[00:02] <Steven_Zhang> ironic
[00:03] <matthewrbowker> ...
[00:03] <Sp33dyphil> BarkingFish: do you know why Russia doesn't talk with NK about human rights and nuclear weapon disarmament?
[00:03] <juancarlos> I don't think that's irony.
[00:03] <Sp33dyphil> Steven_Zhang: he dies of "physical exhaustion", too
[00:03] <Steven_Zhang> lol XD
[00:03] <Sp33dyphil> *died
[00:04] <Steven_Zhang> what was he doing when he died
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[00:04] <BarkingFish> Sp33dyphil: no I don't. Then again, why anyone talks to the DPRK is a mystery
[00:05] <Sp33dyphil> "Markets Live: Korean leader's death sends stocks lower"
[00:05] <Sp33dyphil> Why's that?
[00:06] <Steven_Zhang> yay finally downloading TLC
[00:06] <Shirik> Sp33dyphil: They're full of crap
[00:06] <BarkingFish> loss of economic confidence in a country, Sp33dyphil - no leader, = country in crisis, KOSPI will be going mental right now
[00:06] <Shirik> The real reason stocks are lower is because of the euro
[00:07] <Steven_Zhang> Btw
[00:07] <Steven_Zhang>
[00:07] <Steven_Zhang> "NORTH Korean leader Kim Jong-Il has died, and the communist country must now follow his son Kim Jong-Un, state media has announced.  Read more:"
[00:07] <Steven_Zhang> Odd.
[00:07] <Steven_Zhang> I didnt copy that link
[00:08] <Steven_Zhang> It called on North Koreans to follow's Kim's son and designated successor Kim Jong-Un.
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[00:09] <Sp33dyphil> with whom does NK have the closest relations?
[00:09] <foks> SK
[00:10] <foks> :D
[00:10] <BarkingFish> Ah, right. Well gone 5am, I'm gonna tootle off to bed... but not before I have some fun...  as some of you know I like anagrams :)
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[00:10] <foks> Well, no, probably China or something
[00:10] <topaz> kim jong il - gin milk oj!
[00:10] <harej> Sounds like the worst cocktail ever.
[00:11] <funnyfarm299> haha
[00:11] <funnyfarm299> Wouldn't the OJ react with the milk?
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[00:11] <BarkingFish> kim jong il is dead - o the dprk mourns  = Korean junk lord - hot gimps demise
[00:12] <harej> funnyfarm299: I would mix the two to find out, but why would I waste perfectly good orange juice?
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[00:12] <funnyfarm299> These are some pretty terrible anagrams...
[00:12] <Steven_Zhang> foks: liez
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[00:12] <BarkingFish> yeah, I fucked that one up
[00:12] <BarkingFish> sorry, guess I'm tired
[00:13] <BarkingFish> one too many "e"'s
[00:13] <BarkingFish> bollocks to it. night all.
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[00:13] <topaz> MIL joking
[00:13] <foks> "Supreme Leader of North Korea"
[00:13] <foks> "Spearhead Former Nuke Looter"
[00:13] <topaz> nice.
[00:13] <foks> :3
[00:14] <foks> Or, alternatively, Former Spearhead Nuke Looter
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[00:14] <foks> Since that kind of makes more sense.
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[00:30] <funnyfarm299> What makes people come to wikipedia for answers like these?
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[00:35] <ZamorakO_o> We are the "sum of all human knowledge"
[00:35] <ZamorakO_o> Somewhere in that sum is that answer
[00:38] <Steven_Zhang> sum
[00:38] <Steven_Zhang> not all
[00:38] <juancarlos> I don't think Wikipedia has information on everything.
[00:38] <juancarlos> I just wrote a new article in 2 hours last night.
[00:42] <Steven_Zhang> bai foks
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[00:53] <OlEnglish> kim jong iiilllll
[00:53] <OlEnglish> died
[00:53] <LauraHale> yes
[00:54] <OlEnglish> spread the good news
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[00:54] <Steven_Zhang> OlEnglish: yeah, he was rather ill.
[00:54] <OlEnglish> yeah he was one ill dude
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[00:55] <quanticle> Kim Jong Il will look at things no more:
[00:55] <funnyfarm299> hardy-har-har
[00:55] <funnyfarm299>
[00:55] <Steven_Zhang> he was so il he died
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[00:57] <OlEnglish> lol he does like to look at things a lot doesnt he
[00:57] <OlEnglish> didnt
[00:58] <lapompo> <-- No "History" section? Did they really have this kind of thing in 1950s USA?
[00:58] <lapompo> I thought it was like a 1970s thing at earliest.
[00:58] <lapompo> I mean, you need a decoder hardware?
[00:58] <lapompo> And a card to stick in?
[00:58] <juancarlos> I don't think there was cable in the 50s.
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[00:59] <Prodego>
[01:00] <lapompo> "The origins of premium cable lie in two areas: early pay TV systems of the 1950s and 1960s and early cable (CATV) operators' small efforts to add extra channels to their systems that were not derived from broadcast signals."
[01:00] <juancarlos> I remember when the disney channel was a premium channel.
[01:00] <sonia> Can I have an admin? Some user is using declined AfCspace as an intranet wiki for their company dept
[01:00] <sonia> it's kind of bizarre, but hey
[01:01] <lapompo> Sounds too bizarre to be the case.
[01:02] <Prodego> what?
[01:02] <funnyfarm299> Post an example link so we can check it out.
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[01:03] <sonia> it's just the one page, but they seem to think they've got their own wiki right there
[01:03] <sonia> I've left messages, but no response
[01:04] <Prodego> well one of those links would be nice
[01:04] <sonia>
[01:05] <funnyfarm299> What am I reading???????
[01:06] <juancarlos> something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[01:07] <funnyfarm299> Bah. I was implying that I was really confused by the posted link.
�06[01:07] * sonia chuckles
[01:07] <funnyfarm299> prodego, that's one way to fix the problem :)
[01:08] <funnyfarm299>
[01:08] <Prodego> funnyfarm299: yes, that's one way
[01:09] <Prodego> sonia: that should solve that problem
[01:09] <Prodego> keep an eye, I told them to contact you
[01:09] <sonia> heh, okay.
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[01:10] <funnyfarm299> G'night everyone. Past 1AM here...
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[01:12] <lapompo> Do the people in North Korea generally mourn the death of their leader, or do they only pretend to because they are forced to?
Session Close: Mon Dec 19 01:14:24 2011

Session Start: Mon Dec 19 01:14:24 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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Session Close: Mon Dec 19 10:17:59 2011

Session Start: Mon Dec 19 10:21:39 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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�03[10:21] * Set by log on Sun Dec 18 16:25:14
[10:21] #wikipedia-en url is
[10:21] <Snowolf> And it's the only fact I know about Korea's new leader :)
�12[10:21] -ChanServ- [#wikipedia-fr] Canal en UTF-8. La diffusion publique de journaux de ce canal est interdite. Merci de lire et de contribuer à la bonne humeur du canal. Bonne journée !
[10:22] <QueenOfFrance> Good afternoon lulz :)
[10:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Snowolf according to the emergency intelligence briefing, tentalces have taken over north korea
[10:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> briefing was so emergency we ejected the people in the room with their eject-seats
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�08[10:24] <derp> afternoon QueenOfFrance
�08[10:24] <derp> Uh,  it's still mid-morning here :P
[10:24] <Qcoder00> Hi Fluffernutter
[10:24] <Fluffernutter> mmhm
�08[10:25] * derp snuggles Fluffernutter and puts her on a threadmill.
�06[10:26] * Fluffernutter is having a bout of old-lady back pain. no treadmills plz
�06[10:27] * ToAruShiroiNeko uses tackle on Fluffernutter
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[10:28] <Fluffernutter> owww
�06[10:30] * ToAruShiroiNeko tosses Fluffernutter up high like a trapeeze artist
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[10:31] <ToAruShiroiNeko> if a Fluffernutter falls does it fall on the marshmellow side or the other side?
[10:32] <jubo2> Snowolf: He's got his looks from his gran-pa clearly
[10:32] <jubo2> oops. accidental enter key
[10:32] <Snowolf> Haven't seen a picture of the new guy
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[10:32] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Snowolf I have a satelite image of the new guy
[10:32] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he looks like a pixel
[10:32] <Snowolf> lmao
[10:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I painted his pixel black
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[11:01] <PeterSJC> Anyone here familiar with IGLOO?
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[11:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko>
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[11:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> PeterSJC I know eskimos live in them
[11:06] <PeterSJC> ToAruShiroiNeko: :)    Am trying to figure out how to use the tool described at [[WP:IGLOO]].
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�06[11:07] * Jeff_G tried it, but stuck with Huggle.
[11:07] <BarkingFish> afternoodles all. Any admins on the floor willing to do me a quick favor please?
[11:08] <BarkingFish> Some time ago when I was editing Wikinews, I was working on their abuse filter, and was granted edit filter manager on enwp so I could copy some of the private filters over.
[11:09] <BarkingFish> It was only supposed to be temporary, looks like it was never taken off me again when I finished though.
[11:09] <BarkingFish> Anyone with admin mind taking that out please, unless you don't mind me keeping it.
[11:11] <BarkingFish> tit
[11:12] <BarkingFish> :P
�06[11:12] * Jeff_G anticipates better vandals amd a corresponding need for better mousetraps to catch them. ;)
[11:12] <Fluffernutter> BarkingFish, i'll take a look
[11:12] <BarkingFish> thanks Fluffernutter
[11:12] <nprice> vandalism is more about speed and persistence than anything i think
[11:13] <Jeff_G> s/amd/and/
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[11:13] <nprice> although i have seen some pretty creative things
[11:13] <BarkingFish> I only needed access cause I couldn't work out the syntax to make filters myself, so I went and nicked some.
�06[11:13] * PeterSJC takes a break from watching the video that ToAruShiroiNeko linked, supra
[11:13] <nprice> for example
[11:13] <nprice>
[11:14] <Fluffernutter> done, BarkingFish
[11:14] <BarkingFish> thanks again Fluffernutter :)
[11:14] <Fluffernutter> always happy to abuse my powers and take people's rights away :P
[11:14] <BarkingFish> I don't need access to it since I don't know how to use it anyway :P
[11:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter will you abuse your powers and make me a b'crat
[11:14] <Fluffernutter> no
[11:14] <BarkingFish> Fluffernutter: it was a temporary right, you weren't abusing anything :)
[11:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I'd be the only bcrat without an admin flag
[11:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> awww
[11:15] <BarkingFish> I was only given it for a week :)
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[11:15] <nprice> i think i'm about ready for my RfA :P
[11:15] <BarkingFish> that was 4 or 5 months ago
[11:15] <PeterSJC> Jeff_G: I would like to try Igloo. I put the import into my monobook.js and cleared my cache. But now I cannot figure out how to launch Igloo.
[11:15] <nemo> Hey guys.  I was here a week or two ago asking advice about someone who got our paged tagged COI by picking as their username, the name of our page
[11:15] <nprice> PeterSJC: left hand side under "tools"
[11:16] <nemo> After explaining the situation, folks here said, find that person, ask them to change their name.
[11:16] <nemo> This I managed to do and he eventually did.  After some back and forth w/ admins, the name was changed.
[11:16] <nemo> Sooo, now what.  The COI flag is still there.  Would it be ok if I removed it?
[11:16] <Jeff_G> Sofixit
[11:16] <nemo> not sure I'm allowed
[11:16] <nemo> don't want to get in trouble
[11:16] <BarkingFish> nemo: which article?
[11:17] <nemo>
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[11:17] <BarkingFish> gone
[11:18] <nemo> \o/
[11:18] <nemo> gracias
[11:18] <BarkingFish> 16:17, 19 December 2011‎ BarkingFish (talk | contribs)‎ (13,377 bytes) (COI removed, no conflict of interest found, tagging no longer warranted)
�06[11:18] * nemo will stop obsessing about it now
[11:18] <BarkingFish> good
[11:19] <BarkingFish> go take some valium, have a coffee, and calm down :)
[11:19] <nemo> and back to feeling guilty about the paper reference a researcher sent me 7 years ago that I never added to wikipedia
[11:19] <nemo> heh. valium + coffee
[11:20] <PeterSJC> nprice: On left side I see a "Toolbox" but nothing that looks like Igloo under it.
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[11:23] <BarkingFish> Fluffernutter: While you're at it, any chance you could knock this on the head too please?
[11:23] <BarkingFish>
[11:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm
�06[11:23] * ToAruShiroiNeko probes BarkingFish
[11:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish that page doesnt exist
[11:24] <BarkingFish> ToAruShiroiNeko: It might have been deleted then - but I'm looking at it right now
[11:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ah no the .
[11:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I forgot the .
[11:25] <BarkingFish>
[11:25] <BarkingFish> oh, nvm
[11:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish:
[11:26] <Snowolf> Deleted, not an article nor an article proposal
[11:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Snowolf so you deprobed it?
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[11:28] <BarkingFish> ToAruShiroiNeko: what was the point of pasting up what I'd already pasted up???
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[11:29] <BarkingFish> every day I'm forced to add another name to the list of people who piss me off. You made the list.
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[11:31] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish the point?
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[11:31] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I screenshotted what you screenshotted
[11:31] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I have out-screenshotted you
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[11:35] <Qcoder00> Hi BarkingFish
[11:35] <Fluffernutter> article that makes me want to jump off a bridge, of the day: [[Paigah (Hyderabad)]]
[11:35] <BarkingFish> hi
[11:35] <Fluffernutter> 79k of incomprehensible family-tree tracing
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[11:39] <russavia> any admins around?
[11:39] <russavia> need undeleted so that i can do the otrs on it
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[11:42] <Dragonfly6-7> done
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[11:42] <russavia> tx
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[11:43] <quanticle> Fluffernutter: No references. No notability criteria. AfD it.
[11:44] <quanticle> Unless you want me to AfD it.
[11:44] <Fluffernutter> feel free. i was considering just blanking all the content below the lede
[11:44] <Fluffernutter> but then i decided i didn't like getting yelled at by obsessed people
[11:45] <quanticle> Fluffernutter: You were considering making it into a stub?
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[11:47] <quanticle> Fluffernutter: Which nomination criteria should I use? I can't seem to find anything that covers historical stuff.
[11:47] <Fluffernutter> not a clue :/
[11:47] <quanticle> I'm going to use "Biographical", then. It seems like the closest, because it is biographical information, just not BLP.
[11:48] <quanticle> Oh wait. It looks like it's a copyvio.
[11:48] <quanticle> Look on the talk page.
[11:51] <Snowolf> "Copyright©Christopher Buyers, February 2004 - July 2011"
[11:51] <Snowolf> ^if the text matches
[11:51] <Snowolf> I'm checking
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[11:52] <quanticle> Uh... I just nominated it for deletion:
[11:52] <quanticle> Now I get to wait for the dramastorm.
[11:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter you jump off a different bridge each day?
[11:52] <LL2|JedIRC> Can someone tell me what "Pi r squared" is used for?
[11:52] <LL2|JedIRC> I think its the area, but of what shape?
[11:52] <Dragonfly6-7> it's used to calculate the area of a circle
[11:52] <Fluffernutter> ToAruShiroiNeko, no, a different article/editor makes me want to jump off a bridge each day
[11:52] <LL2|JedIRC> Ah, ok.
[11:52] <Dragonfly6-7> r is the radius - the length of a line between the center of the circle, and the edge
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[11:53] <Dragonfly6-7> every radius is the same length
[11:53] <Snowolf> quanticle: interesting how it's been there for 6 years
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[11:54] <quanticle> Snowolf: Well, is it a copyvio, in your opinion?
[11:55] <LL2|JedIRC> Dragonfly6-7: ok, I've entered the question and correct answer
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[11:55] <LL2|JedIRC> What should I use for the three wrong answers?
[11:55] <Fluffernutter> i don't really see any actual text copying...i mean, they probably are from the same place, but it's hard to label it "yes, copyvio"
[11:56] <LL2|JedIRC> Btw, feel free to pm them to me if you want
[11:56] <Snowolf> quanticle: points me to october 2008 as oldest
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[11:57] <Snowolf> So no evidence it is a copyvio
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[11:57] <LL2|JedIRC> Oh, I've got one
[11:58] <LL2|JedIRC> For a wrong answer, I put "The Circumference of a circle"
[11:58] <LL2|JedIRC> clever, eh?
[11:59] <Dragonfly6-7> that's 2 pi r
[11:59] <LL2|JedIRC> I know
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[12:00] <Snowolf> quanticle: writing some comment on the afd
[12:00] <quanticle> Cool. Thanks!
[12:00] <LL2|JedIRC> I'm saying I put in "circumference of a circle" as a WRONG answer
[12:00] <LL2|JedIRC> Perhaps length for another wrong one?
[12:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 2 pi r is a pi 2 r
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[12:02] <Dragonfly6-7> 2 pi r + pi r squared
[12:02] <Dragonfly6-7> pi r cubed
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[12:03] <LL2|JedIRC> I know, dragonfly6-7
[12:03] <LL2|JedIRC> Ever heard of the game BUZZ! ?
[12:03] <LL2|JedIRC> I'm on making a question set
[12:04] <Snowolf> quanticle|away: uhm commented
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[12:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> pi times e is pie
[12:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dragonfly6-7 you like pie?
[12:08] <BarkingFish> mmmmmmmm  pie.....
[12:08] <BarkingFish> Only with cool hwip though :)
[12:15] <PeterSJC> ToAruShiroiNeko: Thank you for the link to the Vice Guide to Travel. I have just added that to the Vice disambiguation page.
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[12:22] <Theo10011> lol
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[12:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish I dont hike
[12:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I merely plot to take over the world
[12:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> PeterSJC you are wlecome
[12:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its a nice video series
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[12:31] <BarkingFish> jimmy wales - my jaw slime
[12:32] <BarkingFish> or, "slimy jam, ew!"
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[12:35] <BarkingFish> Peter Symonds = Typed sermons...
[12:35] <PeterSymonds> I still use feather and ink.
[12:35] <BarkingFish> sorry for the ping, peter, I'm just bored stupid.  On second thoughts, cancel the bored :)
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[12:38] <Theo10011> Hiya Petey
[12:38] <PeterSymonds> Good evening Theo.
[12:39] <Theo10011> Evening.
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[12:53] <Iamred> Is it weird I only found out that Kim Jong Il died like 10 minutes ago?
[12:53] <Fluffernutter> yes
[12:53] <Fluffernutter> you need to spend mroe time on the internet
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[12:53] <Iamred> Noted.
[12:54] <ryanag> :O Kim Jong II died?
[12:55] <Dragonfly6-7> Yes
[12:55] <Dragonfly6-7> Il
[12:55] <ryanag> o_____o
[12:55] <Dragonfly6-7> he wasn't the head of state, though
[12:55] <Dragonfly6-7> his father was
[12:56] <ryanag> oh.
[12:56] <ryanag> yeah.
[12:56] <ryanag> i knew that.
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[12:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ryanag yes
[12:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> in the morning
[12:57] <ryanag> hmm
[12:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dragonfly6-7 his father still is the head of state
[12:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> making him the longest serving head of state in history
[12:57] <ryanag> Head of what state?
[12:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he serves from a top secret underground bunker
[12:57] <Fluffernutter> being dead surely must put a crimp in that
[12:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> North Korea
[12:57] <Dragonfly6-7> North Korea
[12:57] <ryanag> China?
[12:57] <ryanag> oh
[12:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter he is pretending we are told :p
[12:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ryanag you may know them as  Peoples Democratic Repuiblic of Korea
[12:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> or
[12:58] <Dragonfly6-7> hitchens said that North Korea had the Father and the Son, but no Holy Ghost
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[12:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dragonfly6-7 the ghost is the smog I think
[12:58] <ryanag> I hate North Korea
[12:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ryanag dont hate them
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[12:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they are interesting
[12:59] <ryanag> thats true.
[12:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> two north koreans walk to a bar
[12:59] <ryanag> i dont like their government
[12:59] <Dragonfly6-7> ToAruShiroiNeko -they collapse from starvation
[12:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> why not?
[12:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dragonfly6-7 before that
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[13:00] <ryanag> i </3 communism
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[13:00] <ryanag> sounds good in theory
[13:00] <ryanag> it isn't!!!
[13:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I have watched the 3 part video series and north korea is awesome
[13:01] <ryanag> so do i.
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[13:01] <ryanag> i just dont like their government
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[13:02] <Iamred> Apparently he died of a heart attack.
[13:02] <ryanag> o.o
[13:02] <Theo10011> I was watching some weird travel show on TLC a while ago.
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[13:03] <Theo10011> They snuck in there.
[13:03] <Theo10011> pretty nutty atmosphere.
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[13:03] <ryanag> Hmm.
[13:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Theo10011 whatc this
[13:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko>
[13:03] <Iamred> Or as North Korea put it "great mental and physical strain caused by his uninterrupted field guidance tour for the building of a thriving nation"
[13:04] <Theo10011> the vice guide
[13:04] <ryanag> :J
[13:04] <Theo10011> I think that might have been it
[13:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> vice!
[13:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it must be
[13:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they are THE only ones
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[13:05] <Theo10011> scream!!!
[13:05] <ryanag> :O
[13:05] <Theo10011> bah CSI miami ruined it
[13:05] <scream> Hello.
[13:05] <tommorris> North Korea: what a nation would be like if it were run by Scientologists.
[13:06] <Theo10011> it used to be sonny and crocket earlier.
[13:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tommorris no
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[13:06] <Theo10011> or idiots tommorris.
[13:06] <tommorris> Theo10011: as I said, Scientologists.
[13:06] <Theo10011> lol
[13:06] <ryanag> 9.9
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[13:06] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  You have a thing about Scientologists?
[13:07] <Qcoder00> Yet you are working towards OTRS level 3 , I mean you ran for Arbcom !! XD
[13:07] <tommorris> Qcoder00: as crazy destructive power-hungry cults go, it's pretty high on my shit list
[13:08] <tommorris> and, running for Wikinews ArbCom isn't like running for real ArbCom
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[13:08] <BarkingFish> Oh come on, tommorris - don't insult north korea by comparing it to Scientologists
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[13:08] <BarkingFish> that's unfair to North Korea
[13:08] <Theo10011> heh
[13:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tommorris scientologists wouldnt have this much gymnastics
[13:08] <jubo2> North Korea - Best Korea
[13:08] <Qcoder00> BarkingFish:  Didn't the South Koreans bar some UFO religion nut  once?
[13:08] <jibber> ryanag Hi.
[13:09] <ryanag> Uh hi jibber.
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[13:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Qcoder00 they should have sent him to the north
[13:09] <BarkingFish> yes, Qcoder00 - iirc it was David Icke
[13:09] <Qcoder00> ;)
[13:09] <Theo10011> hita StevenW and Maryana
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[13:09] <Theo10011> *hiya
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[13:10] <tommorris> Qcoder00: also, if you want to be exposed to the truth about how the world came to be because of the actions of Lord Xenu, intergalactic space emperor, you don't need to pay Scientology for it - OTRS correspondents will tell you for free.
[13:10] <Maryana> hi theo1011
[13:10] <Maryana> *theo10011
[13:10] <Theo10011> missed a 0
[13:10] <Theo10011> there you go
[13:10] <tommorris> hey Maryana
[13:10] <Maryana> clearly nobody has had their coffee this morning :)
[13:11] <Maryana> hi tommorris
[13:11] <Maryana> oh look, i got that one right
[13:11] <Maryana> i'm always afraid i'll miss an m
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[13:11] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  ;)
[13:11] <StevenW> Hey Theo
[13:11] <Theo10011> Hey dude
[13:12] <tommorris> Maryana: time for an IRC client with tab-complete?
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[13:12] <tommorris> Mar[tab->]
[13:12] <StevenW> She's using XChat, it should tab complete
[13:12] <Maryana> should being the operative word there
[13:12] <Theo10011> it goes to marienz first though :P
[13:12] <Qcoder00> I thought Martab was a slang term for a rather 'nasty' sedative
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[13:13] <tommorris> Theo10011: in irssi if I type the capital 'M' it goes to Maryana
[13:13] <Maryana> :D
[13:13] <tommorris> marienz uses irssi? marienz rocks.
[13:13] <marienz> tommorris: it should do the right thing if you just m<tab>, as no other nicks starting with m have spoken here recently
[13:13] <Theo10011> all the cool kids do.
[13:13] <marienz> well, it no longer does, because I'm annoying like that, but it did before I started talking :)
[13:14] <tommorris> ah yes, it's active nicks first rather than caps-sensitive
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[13:14] <Fluffernutter> tommorris, i haven't had an OTRS correspondent take me to Xenu yet, I feel left out!
[13:14] <tommorris> although it'd be nice if it were caps-sensitive if you type a capital and caps insensitive if you don't
[13:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I suggest we move vandals to north korea
[13:14] <ryanag> huh
[13:15] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  BTW I've seen people do Scientology related parodies relating to Microsoft certifcation...
�06[13:15] * ToAruShiroiNeko emails ryanag to north korea
[13:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> returned mail
[13:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they dont know email evidently
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[13:16] <BarkingFish> ToAruShiroiNeko: They know email, but it's hard to get email into the North from outside the country
[13:16] <ryanag> You're emailing me to North Korea?
[13:16] <BarkingFish> plus you need to make sure you use the right tld
[13:16] <tommorris> Fluffernutter: next time I find a crazy person, I'm assigning the ticket to you
[13:16] <BarkingFish> it's not .kr for the north, it's .kp
[13:16] <Fluffernutter> EEP
[13:16] <Qcoder00> ORTS gets crazy people?
�06[13:17] * Fluffernutter gets enough crazies in her day-to-day, thx
[13:17] <tommorris> Qcoder00: everywhere gets crazies.
[13:17] <BarkingFish> even us]
[13:17] <Theo10011> Hey
[13:17] <tommorris> although the crazy guy on my talk page has been the best
�08[13:17] <derp> Fluffernutter, darls, i got a pointless idea for you at wokr :)
[13:17] <ryanag> what crazy guy
[13:17] <Theo10011> I fulfill the crazy quota for fluffernutter.
[13:17] <Theo10011> Thank you very much.
[13:17] <Theo10011> or this channel.
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�08[13:18] <derp> Theo10011 <3
[13:18] <Fluffernutter> this is tryue
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[13:18] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  ??
[13:18] <ryanag> egh
[13:18] <jubo2>
[13:18] <Qcoder00> Re your talk page, what do you mean by crazy?
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[13:18] <jubo2> North Korea - Best Korea (tm)
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[13:19] <Dragonfly6-7>
[13:19] <tommorris> Qcoder00:
[13:19] <Dragonfly6-7> "Kim Jong-Il has died at the age of 70. He was the oldest man in the world."
[13:20] <BarkingFish> "Kim Jong Il changes name by deed poll, to Kim Jong BloodyIll "
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[13:21] <tommorris> oh yes, a video I made is on the front page of Commons. and it doesn't involve penises.
[13:21] <ryanag> :<ı)
[13:21] <Theo10011> how rude.
[13:22] <Theo10011> All pages on commons should involve some hint of penises.
[13:22] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  If something BarkingFIsh is analysing for me proves to be genuine, the front page of Commons will be headliner news ;)
[13:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko>
[13:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> LOL
[13:22] <ryanag> theo: Why?
[13:22] <jibber> PENIS BAD
[13:22] <jubo2> Kim-Jong Un will lead the glorious commiemist marxist workers paradise onwards..
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[13:23] <tommorris> we have some nice Gregorian chant to go on the Commons front page on Christmas day
[13:23] <Theo10011> ryanag, why not? ;)
[13:23] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  :)
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[13:23] <Theo10011> ToAruShiroiNeko, LOL
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[13:24] <ryanag> i'm a male and I dont want to see penises on the front page every day
[13:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Theo10011 creative vandalism is cute
[13:24] <jubo2> So how come people play computer games for a living in the South and people starve in North Korea ..?
[13:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> recorded it
�08[13:24] <derp> jubo2, communism?
�08[13:24] <derp> totaliarism?
[13:24] <Theo10011> ryanag, you obviously haven't spent much time browsing commons. :P
[13:24] <Qcoder00> rynag:  Huh?
[13:25] <jubo2> Nepotism
[13:25] <PeterSymonds> You misunderstand.
[13:25] <Qcoder00> You'd rather have a sensitive picture of the female form with appropriate artistic merit? XD
[13:25] <scream> Fluffernutter, ping.
[13:25] <jubo2> and a hefty dose of personality cult
[13:25] <Fluffernutter> scream?
[13:25] <PeterSymonds> Since Commons is male-dominated, they tend to delete the penises.
[13:25] <PeterSymonds> But they leave everything else.
[13:25] <ryanag> Qcoder00: :D
[13:25] <tommorris> we can get rid of the penises, we're just left with the dicks.
[13:25] <scream> Fluffernutter, I'm free for a bit, you ready to see lord Zenu?
[13:26] <Fluffernutter> lol
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[13:26] <ryanag> Theo:
[13:26] <Qcoder00> scream: Does she need to remembers the Drognas and a cheese sandwidch? ;)
[13:26] <BarkingFish> :P
[13:26] <BarkingFish> Adventure Game references
[13:26] <Theo10011> ryanag, interesting.
[13:27] <scream> heh brb
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[13:27] <Theo10011> well en.wp wins when it comes to dicks.
[13:27] <Theo10011> Penises are all on commons.
�08[13:27] * derp snuggles with PeterSymonds.
[13:27] <jubo2> derp: totalitarian nepocratic socialist-stalinist workers happy happy paradise
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[13:28] <Qcoder00> BarkingFish: I once ran a text adventure on IRC
�08[13:28] <derp> very very happy paradise
�06[13:28] * Fluffernutter feeds derp to her dog
[13:28] <ryanag> ^^^ XD :D
[13:28] <jubo2> where absolutely no-one goes to bed hungry..
[13:28] <BarkingFish> Qcoder00: nice :)  The closest I ever got was co-running a MUD
[13:28] <Theo10011>
[13:28] <Theo10011> oh its all funny.
�06[13:28] * tommorris adds the bad image list to his watchlist. Oh the joys of adminship.
[13:29] <ryanag> Kim Jong-il Dead
�08[13:29] * derp puts Fluffernutter on a treadmill again.
[13:29] <Qcoder00> derp:  Just don't give Fluffernutter cola when shes on the treadmill ;)
[13:29] <BarkingFish> Anyone with scrollback, can you search and find out who suggested last night to me, or early this morning, that I should write for uncyclopedia?
�08[13:29] <derp> Qcoder00, diet cola.
[13:30] <Qcoder00> derp: You've seen that footage of a wind turbine that caught fire in high winds?
[13:30] <BarkingFish> I think it was after I called Kim Jong Un "pilsbury porker, the pyongyang crashmat" or something like that
[13:30] <ryanag> BarkingFish: Uncyclopedia is the worst
[13:30] <Theo10011>
[13:30] <Theo10011> ok sausage factory springroll is just funny.
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[13:31] <Qcoder00> BarkingFish:   You can write funnry stuff at times...
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[13:31] <Qcoder00> as can most Wikipedians
[13:31] <BarkingFish> I'd like to do a parody of Wikipedia as if it were run by Kim Jong Il
[13:31] <BarkingFish> ...
[13:32] <ryanag> Kim Jong-il, Uncyclopedian
[13:32] <Theo10011> hmm
[13:32] <Theo10011> BarkingFish, you should go with that concept, sounds funny.
[13:33] <BarkingFish> Kim Jong-veryveryverysick
�08[13:33] <derp> Qcoder00, everyone did.
[13:33] <ryanag> derp trolls trollishy
[13:33] <Qcoder00> In Soviet Wikipedia vandal trolls YOU!!
[13:34] <ryanag>
[13:34] <ryanag> :D
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[13:36] <Qcoder00> BarkingFish:  So how is that signal analysis going ?
[13:36] <Qcoder00> ;)
[13:37] <ryanag> 10011
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[13:38] <BarkingFish> given up on it for the moment, Qcoder00
[13:38] <Qcoder00> OK
[13:38] <BarkingFish> I'm gonna go do some image work, back in a bit
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[13:38] <jubo2> Do they have interwebs in Best Korea ..?
[13:38] <Qcoder00> One of my contacts has an interesting problems...
[13:38] <Dragonfly6-7> Kind of sort of
[13:40] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: oh?
[13:40] <Addi|YVR> Hey Ironholds
[13:40] <ryanag> !admin needed on #wikipedia-en-help
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[13:40] <Qcoder00> Ironholds:  Yeah, they don't know what color towel to by for a freind of thiers whose of gender undiscolsed
[13:40] <RaspberryAlison> Hello
[13:41] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: black goes with everything
[13:41] <Ironholds> hey, Addi|YVR
[13:41] <Ironholds> hey, RaspberryAlison
[13:41] <Ironholds> ryanag: hangon
[13:41] <Qcoder00> Ironholds : LOl
[13:41] <Qcoder00> You can get 'Gothic' towels?
[13:41] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: indeed
[13:41] <RaspberryAlison> ryanag: there
[13:41] <Qcoder00> :O
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[13:45] <Qcoder00> - Anyone want to do some easy G6's?
�08[13:46] <derp> Qcoder00, a bot can do that ;)
�08[13:46] <derp> AWB can do it ;)
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[13:47] <Dragonfly6-7> braiiiiiiiiiiiins
[13:47] <Qcoder00> derp: Then go ahead and use it ;)
[13:47] <ryanag> :PPP
[13:48] <ryanag> :P
[13:48] <Qcoder00> Dragonfly6-7:  ??
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[13:52] <Fluttershy-ENG> Seeing those videos in North Korea are both lulzy and sad at the same time.
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�08[14:00] <derp> Qcoder00, i'm at work, working on a browser :P
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[14:02] <Fluttershy-ENG> derp does it use a custom rendering engine?
�08[14:02] <derp> no, WebKit
[14:03] <Fluttershy-ENG> any screenshots of it?
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[14:03] <BarkingFish> Theo10011: I'm just working on the concept now, I'll pm you a link in a sec, just sticking the start up on
�08[14:03] <derp> It's chrome darling :)
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[14:05] <Fluttershy-ENG> derp are you saddened by the loss of such a great leader (i'm not)?
�08[14:07] <derp> Fluttershy-ENG, nah.
�08[14:08] <derp> Altough i enjoyed his role in Team America World Police
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�08[14:09] <derp> yay
�08[14:09] <derp> the snack cart is coming!
�08[14:09] <derp> hmm
�08[14:09] <derp> salty or sweet pretzels?
[14:09] <Fluffernutter> salty
�08[14:10] <derp> with parmesan and butter dip OR orange cheese dip
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�08[14:11] <derp> parmesan and butter dip it is!
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�08[14:12] <derp> the pretzel's soooooooooooooooooooooooo soft!
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[14:35] <BarkingFish> Er, I don't know what just happened here, but I've a feeling I've just been the victim of a cyber attack
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[14:36] <BarkingFish> And I'm not joking before people think I'm losing my marbles
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[14:37] <BarkingFish> I am working on a pisstake of kim jong il / wikipedia, and without warning, my whole system slowed right down, and I got 20 odd programs pop up in my system tray, all with Hangul names and menu options.  My dmesg also shows that I had a "connection from a private client" about 10 minutes ago...
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[14:38] <Dragonfly6-7> so physically disconnect yourself from the network and then check what everything is
[14:39] <BarkingFish> it seems like something was interfered with, Gimp has now crashed and refuses to save the image I was working on, claiming there's "too many files open in the system" :)
[14:39] <BarkingFish> Someone clearly doesn't like me taking the piss
[14:40] <BarkingFish> I'm gonna rip my netwires and check everything, back in a while
[14:40] <FooBarMartijn> smart call
[14:41] <FooBarMartijn> in your oppinions, what should be done with this: [[Parallels between optics and quantum mechanics]]
[14:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> NSFW: NK leader with sausages!:
[14:42] <Theo10011> <Theo10011> They don't look like asian sausages.
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[14:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> More sausages (asian):
[14:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Theo10011 there
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[14:44] <Theo10011> That man sure does love sausages.
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[14:48] <Ironholds> argh. features deployment, I hate you.
[14:50] <petan> huh
[14:50] <petan> Ironholds: which features you talk about
[14:50] <petan> btw thank you for your email :)
[14:50] <Ironholds> petan: [[WP:AFT5]]
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[14:50] <Ironholds> np. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful :(
[14:51] <petan> that's ok I am sorting it out with Ian
[14:51] <Ironholds> awesome. Ian is good peoples :)
[14:51] <petan> and Krinkle, Bawolff, Brion and others :D
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[15:03] <Fluffernutter> fun fact: one cannot get a Nook serviced at a Barnes & Noble Store. Instead, one goes to a Staples.
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[15:08] <tommorris> ah StevenW, I need to take you to task for the new block templates
[15:08] <BarkingFish> Theo10011 and anyone else - I present, North Korea's view of Wikipedia, as seen through my eyes
[15:08] <BarkingFish>
[15:09] <jorm> this photo should probably be deleted:
[15:09] <tommorris> I'm generally in support of making templates more welcoming, but the fact that we now have block templates that don't actually contain the word "block" is profoundly unintuitive
[15:09] <jorm> it even has the copyright notice *as a watermark*
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[15:09] <tommorris> jorm: just looking
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[15:10] <tommorris> it might be freely licensed even with a copyright watermark
[15:10] <jorm> here's the original flickr page:
[15:11] <jorm> "all rights reserved"
[15:11] <tommorris> flickr does let you change that, so I tend to check the Internet Archive
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[15:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> fun fact Staples can get stuck in staplers
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[15:14] <Hurricanefan25> msg Barras Is it possible to change an IRC cloak from wikipedia to wikimedia?
[15:14] <Hurricanefan25> :/
[15:14] <TBloemink> It is
[15:14] <Barras> Yes, it is.
[15:15] <PeterSymonds> Absolutely not.
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[15:15] <TBloemink> PeterSymonds: -.-'
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[15:15] <TBloemink> I changed my cloak to wikimedia when I started doing x-wiki stuff
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[15:15] <PeterSymonds> The embarrassment killed him.
[15:15] <tommorris> jorm: I've nominated it for deletion on Commons
[15:15] <SpeakFree> how do you change your cloak?
[15:15] <TBloemink> via the same form
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[15:16] <TBloemink> and select Cloak change
[15:16] <SpeakFree> thanks
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[15:16] <TBloemink> ^ Oops
[15:16] <TBloemink> Too late.
[15:17] <PeterSymonds> The alternative answer is "pay Barras lots of money".
[15:17] <Barras> Don't make me too much work before christmas ;)
[15:17] <Barras> Or pay good, yes :D
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[15:17] <tommorris> jorm: shit that's being used all over the damn place
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[15:17] <StevenW> tommorris: which block templates?
[15:18] <StevenW> I don't believe we've tested any block templates, eve
[15:18] <StevenW> r
[15:18] <tommorris> there's one for shared IP
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[15:18] <tommorris> I noticed it because I get it when I block with Huggle but not with Twinkle
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[15:19] <petan> tommorris: checking
[15:19] <StevenW> Hmm. I don't think we're running a test of block notices in HG
[15:19] <petan> neither I
[15:19] <Maryana> stevenw, tommorris: nope
[15:19] <Maryana> not us
[15:19] <tommorris> weird, it might just be crappy anyway
[15:19] <petan>
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[15:19] <petan> no changes to templates at all
[15:20] <tommorris> there was a discussion on AN or ANI a few weeks ago and I thought "I must poke StevenW about that!"
[15:20] <petan> tommorris: what exactly happened you think is wrong?
[15:20] <petan> link me to that page
[15:20] <tommorris> I will once Firefox finishes crashing
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[15:21] <tommorris> it's basically a shared IP template that says that editing has been "disabled" on that IP rather than saying that the IP has been blocked.
[15:23] <petan> hm... are you sure it wasn't like that in past?
[15:23] <petan> most of huggle templates are outdated
[15:23] <tommorris> may have been
[15:23] <tommorris> I'm just trying to dig it out
[15:23] <petan>
[15:23] <petan> that's what you send to users you block using hg
[15:24] <Ironholds> hey guys; just a notice in advance that the Article Feedback Tool version 5 should be deployed on en-wiki later today
[15:24] <petan> is sends exactly {{subst:Huggle/block|time|reason}}
[15:24] <Ironholds> so if you spot any issues, ping me or come to #wikimedia-dev :)
[15:24] <PeterSymonds> What's version 5?
[15:25] <petan> PeterSymonds: next version after version 4 :P
[15:25] <PeterSymonds> Ah, thank you.
[15:25] <petan> I get you a change log, wait
[15:25] <Steven_Zhang> PeterSymonds: 4 + 1 = 5
[15:26] <PeterSymonds> Why did nobody tell me this before.
[15:26] <petan>
[15:26] <petan> PeterSymonds: here ^
[15:26] <tommorris> PeterSymonds: there's been discussion in Signpost, in Wikimedia office hours and if you've been anywhere within earshot of Ironholds
[15:26] <tommorris> <-- here's one which doesn't actually say "blocked"
[15:26] <PeterSymonds> I clearly haven't been paying attention.
[15:26] <Ironholds> tommorris: you forget the individualised emails I sent to everyone who had been involved in the previous discussions
[15:26] <Ironholds> and the village pump notices for every office hours
[15:27] <Ironholds> and the mailing list announcements for every office hours :P
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[15:27] <PeterSymonds> I don't tend to read mailing lists, especially foundation-l.
[15:27] <PeterSymonds> Evil lists.
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[15:27] <tommorris> although now that the filter discussions have died down, it's gotten marginally better
[15:28] <petan> tommorris: that's the one you sent?
[15:28] <petan> because it can't happen with huggle :|
[15:28] <petan> there is no link to it anywhere I looked
[15:28] <TBloemink> Huggle seems to work on nlwiki too :S
[15:28] <petan> huggle seems to work anywhere they request it to work
[15:29] <PeterSymonds> Funny that.
[15:29] <petan> wikimedia projects
[15:29] <petan> I have got a guy who wanted it on private wiki :)
[15:29] <petan> I told him to change source code if he wants it
[15:30] <tommorris> petan: I may be misremembering. human memory is notoriously awful
[15:30] <PeterSymonds> I do hope you're not referring to a WMF private wiki.
[15:30] <petan> wmf private wiki?
[15:30] <tommorris> PeterSymonds: why would you need Huggle for a private wiki?
[15:30] <petan> what is that :D
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[15:30] <PeterSymonds> Well, exactly.
[15:30] <petan> probably to deal with massive ammount of trolls
[15:30] <PeterSymonds> hence the question.
[15:30] <agk-wiki> Are you talking about improving the software for private WMF wikis? The core mediawiki stuff barely works.
[15:31] <PeterSymonds> Not really.
[15:31] <petan> agk-wiki: huh
[15:31] <agk-wiki> has had a broken search function for like two weeks
[15:31] <Theo10011> BarkingFish, lol
[15:31] <agk-wiki> PeterSymonds, did that ever get fixed?
[15:31] <Theo10011> just saw the updated version.
[15:31] <PeterSymonds> I don't think so.
[15:31] <petan> checkuser had broken permissions so that anyone could use it :D
[15:31] <PeterSymonds> Not when I last checked anyway.
[15:31] <petan> that was few weeks ago
[15:31] <petan> fixed before it got to production though
[15:31] <PeterSymonds> Oh, and congratulations (or commiserations, etc.) on your election, AGK!
[15:32] <BarkingFish> Theo10011: You like?
[15:32] <agk-wiki> PeterSymonds, the search function is pretty much what the wiki is for. It's insane that they haven't fixed it, but never mind.
[15:32] <Theo10011> Yes.
[15:32] <agk-wiki> Lol thanks. I'd go with commiserations :)
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[15:32] <PeterSymonds> As would I.
[15:32] <petan> agk-wiki: did you ever reported it?
[15:32] <petan> to bugzilla
[15:32] <tommorris> PeterSymonds, agk-wiki: you may enjoy the message I left for Panyd - see [[User talk:Panyd]]
[15:32] <Ironholds> agk-wiki: you get double-congrats from me
[15:32] <Ironholds> 1) you got elected. 2) Coren didn't.
[15:33] <TBloemink> only difference between huggle here and on nlwiki is that the report and tag speedy are replaced by delete and block :S
[15:33] <BarkingFish> Who else got elected?
[15:33] <tommorris> BarkingFish: Courcelles, Hersfold, SilkTork - see [[WP:ACE]] for more
[15:33] <PeterSymonds> I like that template.
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[15:34] <tommorris> I'm surprised I didn't find any genitalia. (Where did I leave my electric toothbrush?)
[15:34] <BarkingFish> tommorris: you probably mistook your electric toothbrush for them
[15:34] <BarkingFish> they're in your undies
[15:35] <agk-wiki> Ironholds, Coren is a nice guy I'm sure :P and thanks!
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[15:35] <agk-wiki> tommorris, I'll go check her talk :)
[15:35] <Ironholds> agk-wiki: I am sure he is lovely
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[15:35] <agk-wiki> Ironholds, now play nice :)
[15:36] <agk-wiki> Were you happy with the election returns?
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[15:36] <agk-wiki> A few sitting arbs returned, with 70-80% support as the rest of the candidates had... Rather unexpected
[15:36] <BarkingFish> Well three of my preferred candidates got on, two didn't...
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[15:36] <Ironholds> tommorris: stop mindreading
[15:37] <Steven_Zhang> Er
[15:37] <Steven_Zhang>
[15:37] <agk-wiki> Ironholds, you spliced a comma after "nice". Ironholds wouldn't do that
[15:37] <Steven_Zhang> Does anyone else think they should rename to something not similar to fluffier utter
[15:37] <BarkingFish> Er, two of my preferred got on - Courcelles and Hersfold. Coren, DQ and Geniice didn't.
[15:37] <Steven_Zhang> Fucking autocorrect
[15:37] <agk-wiki> But otherwise, I think you have ESP.
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[15:38] <Steven_Zhang> I wasn't happy Kirill got re-elected
[15:38] <agk-wiki> I mean *tommorris,
[15:38] <Steven_Zhang> Since he's been on arbcom since the 15th century
[15:39] <Steven_Zhang> -_-
[15:39] <agk-wiki> Lol
[15:39] <agk-wiki> That in itself isn't a reason to oppose him :P
[15:39] <Steven_Zhang> People wonder why ArbCom is stuck in its ways.
�06[15:39] * Steven_Zhang points to Kirill
�06[15:39] * Steven_Zhang points up to comment about 15th century
[15:40] <tommorris> Steven_Zhang: yes, that's a concerning username. If it were to come across account creation, I would deny it for the same reason I'd deny "Jumbo Wales" or "Steven's Wang"
[15:40] <PeterSymonds> The RfAR started by Christopher Columbus was particularly interesting.
[15:41] <tommorris> the American revolution was caused by an edit war, I'm sure
[15:41] <Steven_Zhang> Jimbo Whales
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[15:43] <agk-wiki> Hey Fluffernutter
[15:45] <Steven_Zhang> Fluffernutter: There's a similar username to yours :p
[15:45] <Steven_Zhang> Fluffernutter2
[15:45] <Steven_Zhang> :p
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[15:46] <agk-wiki> Hey MBisanz
[15:46] <agk-wiki> How goes your course?
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[16:06] <HallowsAG> Hello
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[16:06] <agk-wiki> Hey HallowsAG
[16:06] <HallowsAG> Are there admins around to help with a page move?
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[16:06] <HallowsAG> agk-wiki: Hello
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[16:08] <agk-wiki> HallowsAG, I can help
[16:09] <Steven_Zhang> Can
[16:09] <Steven_Zhang> But won't :p
[16:09] <Steven_Zhang> Teh lazy admin agk is
[16:09] <HallowsAG> [04:57:29] <Lambano> Hi. I trying to make my article about Cynthia Basinet, look at it please, and tell is it neutral?
[16:09] <HallowsAG> [04:57:49] <Lambano> it is under Creation protection
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[16:10] <agk-wiki> I WILL help, I meant, you imp
[16:11] <HallowsAG> agk-wiki: That was what Lambano wrote on #wikipedia-en-help
[16:11] <agk-wiki> HallowsAG, "User:Lambano Blosko/Cynthia Basinet" has been moved to "Cynthia Basinet"
[16:11] <agk-wiki> Redirect was created. Can you check if he wants to redirect retained? I can delete it now, if he doesn't.
[16:11] <agk-wiki> *wants the
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[16:12] <HallowsAG> agk-wiki: I'm going to ask him now
[16:12] <agk-wiki> Thanks
[16:12] <HallowsAG> agk-wiki: Thank you for moving it
[16:12] <agk-wiki> You're welcome
[16:16] <HallowsAG> agk-wiki: He wants to retain the redirect.
[16:16] <agk-wiki> No problem. Lmk if you need anything else
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[16:19] <fovorek> hi motherfuckers
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[16:19] <PeterSymonds> Oh you were brought up marvellously.
[16:19] <HallowsAG> fovorek: hello
[16:20] <fovorek> england is the end
[16:20] <fovorek> english language this shit
[16:21] <PeterSymonds> Yeah, look, I suggest you stop all that before you find yourself unable to speak at all.
[16:21] <fovorek> polish language is the best!!
[16:21] <fovorek> Polish race will rule the world
[16:21] <PeterSymonds> Okay.
[16:22] <fovorek> english and american this morons
[16:22] <fovorek> fuck all
[16:22] <fovorek> *fucking all
[16:22] <PeterSymonds> As trolls go, you're rather boring, so I'm going to mute you now.
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[16:23] <multichill> Hi PeterSymonds , still interested in heritage?
[16:23] <PeterSymonds> Absolutely.
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[16:23] <harej> Heritage Foundation? Eww.
[16:24] <mabdul> PeterSymonds: trout CET if he comes online from me ;)
[16:24] <PeterSymonds> I won't be here much longer.
[16:24] <multichill> Did you see the announcement about Wiki Loves Monuments 2012? ( )
[16:24] <PeterSymonds> multichill, for my personal sanity I tend to avoid foundation-l, but I will read this. ;-)
[16:25] <multichill> PeterSymonds: They got this awesome flag: nomail
[16:25] <mabdul> !cookie tommoris
[16:25] <mabdul> !cookie tommorris
[16:25] <mabdul> ;)
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[16:26] <PeterSymonds> multichill, in terms of interest, I would love to be involved, but I probably wouldn't have time to organise anything.
[16:26] <multichill> It's about the lists of heritage in the UK
[16:27] <multichill> I'm thinking about spending some time on that and some assistance would be nice :-)
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[16:27] <PeterSymonds> Well I think I can be of use to you. I work in the heritage sector.
[16:27] <juancarlos> derp: Behave, please.
[16:27] <PeterSymonds> Your Majesty.
[16:27] <multichill> I know, that's why I'm asking :-D
[16:28] <PeterSymonds> Then your answer is "yes".
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[16:28] <tommorris> mabdul: cookie? please tell me you aren't stalking the fact that I'm doing AfC
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[16:28] <multichill> Having some of the lists available early would probably help convince a lot of reluctant people that it's possible in the UK too
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[16:28] <PeterSymonds> It's definitely possible.
[16:29] <juancarlos> Thank you for your recognition, Mr. Symonds. I hereby give you the dukedom of Galacia.
[16:29] <PeterSymonds> It's what I've always wanted.
[16:29] <Snowolf> Galicia?
[16:29] <Peter-C> Oh look! it is PeterSymonds!
[16:29] <juancarlos> Yes, that.
[16:29] <mabdul> tommorris: I saw it in the -afc channel. We have a live bot ;)
[16:29] <PeterSymonds> Good evening Peter-C.
[16:29] <tommorris> mabdul: ah okay. I do loathe doing AfC work.
[16:29] <GabrielF> My Dad's family was from Galicia
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[16:29] <PeterSymonds> I now own them, apparently.
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[16:30] <GabrielF> the one that used to be in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, I don't know if there are others
[16:30] <PeterSymonds> Thank you.
[16:30] <Peter-C> Oh... for... fucks... sake...
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[16:30] <PeterSymonds> Oh.
[16:30] <PeterSymonds> Makes a change from preparing one's tea.
[16:30] <Peter-C> I don't want to write all the elctron configurations god damn it
[16:30] <juancarlos> is not in Spain.
[16:31] <juancarlos> There's a province in Spain named Galicia.
[16:31] <GabrielF> probably has better food
[16:31] <PeterSymonds> Heh.
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[16:31] <multichill> Peter :  I slowly worked my way through the National Register of Historic Places listings (USA) and that seems to be on the road so it's time for another country ;-)
[16:32] <PeterSymonds> multichill, I'm off now, but I'll be around tomorrow. Alternatively you can shoot me an e-mail to
[16:32] <PeterSymonds> Au'revoir.
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[16:32] <multichill> See you later
[16:33] <Snowolf> zomg outing, oversight the logs, fast! :P
[16:34] <juancarlos> /clear
[16:34] <juancarlos> {{done}}
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[16:37] <juancarlos>
[16:37] <juancarlos> > contraction of God be with ye
[16:37] <juancarlos> I didn't know that!
[16:38] <GabrielF> TIL
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[16:49] <tommorris> mabdul|food: I actually approved an AfC. That rarely happens
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[16:50] <barts1a> Um... how long does an RfC usually run before it is closed?
[16:51] <Peter-C> 7 days I belive
[16:51] <Snowolf> Not really
[16:51] <barts1a> The one at has  been running for 18 now
[16:51] <Snowolf> My understanding is that the normal duration is 30 days
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[16:52] <Snowolf> "RfCs that are listed by the RfC bot are also automatically de-listed by the RfC bot after 30 days (calculated from the first timestamp after the RfC template). Thirty days is the default length, but there is no required minimum or maximum length. If consensus has been reached before 30 days, the RfC nominator(s) can remove the RfC tag, [etc etc]"
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[16:57] <Steven_Zhang> admin?
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[16:57] <Steven_Zhang> or image expert
[16:57] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[16:58] <barts1a> Steven_Zhang: Just say what you need
[16:58] <Hurricanefan25> O_o o_O o_o :o
[16:58] <juancarlos> say my name say my name
[16:58] <Steven_Zhang> lol'
[16:58] <Steven_Zhang>
[16:58] <QueenOfFrance> Steven_Zhang: I'm an admin but if it's image-related I know nothing :(
[16:59] <Snowolf> Steven_Zhang: guy looks great imo
[16:59] <Hurricanefan25> Will this troll go away? :/
[16:59] <Hurricanefan25>
[16:59] <Steven_Zhang> I have to agree with the rationale.
[16:59] <Steven_Zhang> "It is disputed whether this file violates our non-free content criteria. The reason given is: This image is not replaceable considering the closed nature of the country. Text alone could not adequately serve to inform the reader as well as a photograph of the person could accomplish. "
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[16:59] <Steven_Zhang> the image has also been widely distributed in the media
[17:00] <Snowolf> I would agree that it is not at all easy to replace
[17:00] <Steven_Zhang> so our use of the image doesnt really infringe on any copyrights etc
[17:00] <Steven_Zhang> IAR, etc
[17:00] <Snowolf> and also, that guy's face is priceless and can't be replaced by text.
[17:00] <tommorris> we need to send undercover photographers into North Korea
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[17:01] <juancarlos> photographers with covers over them
[17:01] <barts1a> *Facepalm*
[17:02] <Steven_Zhang> lol.
[17:02] <Steven_Zhang> So, thoughts?
[17:02] <QueenOfFrance> commented
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[17:03] <Steven_Zhang> would i be out of order to remove the proposed deletion...
[17:03] <Steven_Zhang> its not really an admin task
[17:04] <Snowolf> No clue, I know little of our image policies
[17:04] <Snowolf> Not my area of expertise :)
[17:05] <juancarlos> ask qcoder
[17:05] <juancarlos> *grin*
[17:05] <Gfoley4> bahah
[17:05] <Snowolf> Gfoley4: opinions? ^
[17:05] <Gfoley4> no clue
[17:06] <Snowolf> You don't think that his facial expression can't be replaced with text? :(
[17:06] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[17:06] <Steven_Zhang> too much chocolate
[17:06] <Steven_Zhang> pudding face
[17:06] <barts1a> I think it's (-_-}
[17:06] <Snowolf> I actually was curious to see how the guy looks like
[17:06] <barts1a> * (-_-)
[17:06] <Snowolf> I think that image is priceless
[17:07] <mabdul|food> tommorris: stats shows that 10% go into mainspace (of course mostly after some declines)
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[17:07] <juancarlos> Hello Matthew Bisanz.
[17:07] <juancarlos> Snowolf: For everything else, there's mastercard(tm)
[17:08] <Gfoley4> ™. Do it right!
[17:08] <Snowolf> :D
[17:08] <barts1a> juancarlos: You forgot the 2 things that cost money and the priceless thing
[17:08] <Snowolf> barts1a: the priceless was
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[17:09] <barts1a> For example: Computer: $500. Windows 7 ultimate: $150. Seeing your friends face when you block them from editing wikipedia: Priceless. There are some things money can't buy, for everthing else; there's mastercard
[17:10] <juancarlos> I think we all get the meme. Snowolf said something was priceless and I jumped in with the mastercard reference. :-)
[17:10] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[17:10] <Steven_Zhang> barts1a:
[17:10] <FooBarMartijn> for our more technically inclined, does anyone know if it's possible to customise twinkle?
[17:11] <Steven_Zhang> yeh
[17:11] <Gfoley4> WP:TW/PREFS
[17:11] <juancarlos>
[17:11] <FooBarMartijn> I want moar
[17:11] <juancarlos> It uses dark magick.
[17:11] <Steven_Zhang> moarrr
[17:12] <FooBarMartijn> specifically, I don't want it to template the warnings/notifications, but to popup the usertalk
[17:12] <FooBarMartijn> and preferably pre-fill with the template, ready for me to tailor
[17:13] <barts1a> juancarlos: ROFL!
[17:13] <Gfoley4> o.O
[17:13] <Gfoley4> you find dark magic funny?
[17:13] <FooBarMartijn> that's not that weird is it?
[17:13] <barts1a> I was referring to the youtube video
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[17:14] <juancarlos> I didn't post that :P
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[17:14] <juancarlos> FooBarMartijn: yes, that's weird :-P
[17:14] <Gfoley4> fail
[17:14] <barts1a> oh.... wrong person
[17:14] <juancarlos> raindrift: Are you experiencing connection issues?
[17:14] <barts1a> dammit....
[17:14] <raindrift> I was, yeah.  should be fixed now.
[17:14] <juancarlos> cool
[17:15] <FooBarMartijn> anyway, is it possiblish, or should I just copy the whole thing and start hacking at it?
[17:15] <Snowolf> afaik you can edit any settings
[17:15] <juancarlos> FooBarMartijn: I thought that was possible...
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[17:22] <Steven_Zhang> so...
[17:22] <juancarlos> so so suck ur toe
[17:27] <jorm> tommorris: that image got annihilated.
[17:27] <Mike_H> as an American, I apologize to all Norwegians for the butter shortage and I hope you can make the pussycat cake for Christmas.
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[17:28] <juancarlos> Did Americans eat the world's supply of butter?
[17:28] <Snowolf> Anybody has used strawberry perl on windows around here?
[17:29] <Mike_H> juancarlos: Search up DListed's Hot Slut of the Week
[17:29] <Mike_H> and watch the video where he rails against Americans
[17:29] <Mike_H> mainly because we have butter
[17:29] <Mike_H> and they don't
[17:30] <Ironholds> juancarlos, pick a letter
[17:30] <juancarlos> F
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[17:30] <Mike_H> juancarlos: He has a Leona Lewis face
[17:30] <Ironholds> whole number between 1 and 10, inclusive
[17:30] <Mike_H> Whitney Houston hair
[17:30] <juancarlos> 2
[17:30] <Mike_H> and I am pretty sure NeNe from Real Housewives of Atlanta will cut a ho for stealing her lip gloss
[17:31] <Ironholds> juancarlos: feist, ta
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[17:32] <juancarlos> I am a feist? o_O
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[17:37] <Snowolf> Steven_Zhang: any visits by Medvedev/Putin to North Korea or the other way around? 'cause we get the free media from that
[17:37] <Snowolf> like,_2011.jpg
[17:37] <Steven_Zhang> hmm?
[17:37] <Steven_Zhang> No
[17:37] <Steven_Zhang> not for the son
[17:37] <Snowolf> Would be nice if they visit him
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[17:37] <Steven_Zhang> lol
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[17:43] <PiRSquared> Rich Farmbrough ping
[17:43] <CRRaysHead90> nope
[17:43] <Alpha_Quadrant> tommorris: thanks for reviewing at AfC
[17:44] <juancarlos> Rich Farmbrough uses irc?
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[17:44] <Alpha_Quadrant> I have never seen him in IRC
[17:44] <PiRSquared> Under some nick
[17:44] <PiRSquared> forgot
[17:45] <PiRSquared>
[17:45] <tommorris> Alpha_Quadrant: I can only do it in limited doses but will try and do it more often
[17:45] <Alpha_Quadrant> thanks
[17:45] <juancarlos> Just leave him a message on his talk page, PiRSquared.
[17:45] <juancarlos> Since he seems to be currently active.
[17:45] <Alpha_Quadrant> if you do it long enough, it becomes addictive, unless you have an overdose
[17:46] <Snowolf> PiRSquared: if he does irc, I've never seen him around and he has no access to -en-admins; interesting
[17:46] <PiRSquared> maybe it was someone else
[17:46] <PiRSquared> I don't come in -en much
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[17:47] <PiRSquared> And I don't know all the regulars
[17:48] <juancarlos> he might have. he's just not a regular. :-)
[17:48] <Alpha_Quadrant> PiRSquared: mostly users who make ~20 edits/month
[17:48] <Steven_Zhang> so what we gonna do?
[17:48] <juancarlos> Alpha_Quadrant: I resemble that remark!
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[17:49] <Snowolf> Steven_Zhang: about what?
[17:49] <Steven_Zhang> the image :P
[17:49] <Steven_Zhang> hm
[17:50] <Steven_Zhang> maybe just bomb the shit out of north korea
[17:50] <Steven_Zhang> they won't be a problem then...heheh
[17:50] <Snowolf> Nuuu I liek that image!
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[17:56] <BarkingFish> Snowolf: What do you think of this one then???
[17:57] <BarkingFish> I think we should do this to Wikipedia for 24 hours as a mark of respect to the Dear Leader...
[17:57] <BarkingFish>
[17:57] <Snowolf> I disagree
[17:57] <Snowolf> out with the old
[17:57] <Snowolf> put the image of the new guy
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[17:57] <BarkingFish> yeah, in with the fat ass tub of lard who can't move without the floor being greased
[17:58] <Snowolf> Why so much hate
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[17:58] <Steven_Zhang> BarkingFish: XD
[17:58] <BarkingFish> As someone said last night in here, he has more folds than an Origami Crane :P
[17:58] <Snowolf> I already like the new guy.
[17:58] <Steven_Zhang> lol tub of lard
[17:58] <BarkingFish> Oh my good god no...  What's the point of having an obese Leader who's pretty much a walking MI waiting to happen? They'll be doing this again in a year when he carks it
[17:59] <Steven_Zhang> obesity :P
[17:59] <Snowolf> He's 27, he'll stick around for a while longer
[17:59] <BarkingFish> At his size, i'd imagine he will
[17:59] <Steven_Zhang> BarkingFish: you still use monobook? :D
[17:59] <BarkingFish> he'll stick in shop doorways, arches, window frames...
[18:00] <BarkingFish> The first time he steps on a set of scales they'll scream "One at a fucking time please :)"
[18:00] <BarkingFish> Steven_Zhang: yes
[18:00] <scream> .
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[18:00] <Steven_Zhang> monobook for the win :D
[18:00] <BarkingFish> Vector sucks ass and titties together, and all the others are shite
[18:01] <BarkingFish> If it ain't monobook, it ain't working
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[18:01] <{Soap}> yay I lost another 2 pounds
[18:01] <{Soap}> but Im about to eat a 2-pound lasagna for dinner
[18:01] <BarkingFish> :)
[18:02] <BarkingFish> it's good to have a balanced diet
[18:02] <BarkingFish> you balance what you lose with what you eat
[18:02] <{Soap}> yeah
[18:04] <juancarlos> lasagna sounds good.
[18:05] <matthewrbowker> Test.  Ping me if you see this
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[18:06] <juancarlos> [15:06:20]	[INFO]	Ping reply from matthewrbowker in 1.08 seconds.
[18:06] <matthewrbowker> Thank you, juan
[18:06] <matthewrbowker> sorry, juancarlos
[18:06] <juancarlos> np
[18:07] <Gfoley4> bad connection ftw
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[18:08] <matthewrbowker> Gfoley4: I'm actually expecting to go offline soon, it's snowing here and it's only a matter of time before someone brings down the power lines :P
�08[18:08] <derp> juancarlos, you are KINKY!
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[18:08] <Gfoley4> ah
[18:08] <Gfoley4> hah
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[18:09] <juancarlos> derp: Welcome to #wikipedia-en, the help channel for the English Wikipedia! Type your question in the white area at the bottom of the screen, a helper should be around shortly to answer your questions!
[18:09] <Steven_Zhang> BarkingFish: hear hear
[18:10] <matthewrbowker> Google's broken but Yahoo works fine.... I think NetNanny has a bias :P
[18:10] <Tannerbaum> anyone here know much Regex?
[18:11] <Kingpin13> Tannerbaum, a bit.
[18:12] <Tannerbaum> Kingpin13: I'm trying to figure out how to block users on my wiki using titleblacklist whose name starts with letters, and ends with 19*
[18:12] <Kingpin13> 19* meaning?
[18:12] <Tannerbaum>
[18:12] <Kingpin13> and how many letters at the start?
[18:13] <Tannerbaum> i don't know... any number?
[18:13] <Steven_Zhang> "I mean, according to the Ministry of Information, Dad hit 11 holes-in-one the first time he ever played golf. I'm dead serious. Dad had never even picked up a golf club before, and he hit 38 under par."
[18:13] <Steven_Zhang>,18374/ lol
[18:14] <Fae> Regex for one or more letters (no spaces or dashes) followed by 19 and asterisk looks like [A-Za-z]+19\*
[18:15] <{Soap}> a few legitimate users might get blocked that way
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[18:15] <Kingpin13> Fae, clearly he didn't mean a literal asterisk. And titleblacklist is case insensitive by default.
[18:15] <matthewrbowker> Anyone else think these are the same thing?  and ?
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[18:15] <Steven_Zhang> Snowolf: they are fucking crazy
[18:15] <Steven_Zhang> "Other ideas Kim has had for proving his insanity include placing anyone shorter than himself under permanent house arrest, issuing a new national currency every 90 days, normalizing relations with South Korea, and replacing all medicines with synthetic replications of his own saliva."
[18:15] <Kingpin13> [a-z]+19\d{2} should work
[18:16] <Snowolf> Steven_Zhang: o_O what are you quoting?
[18:16] <Fae> Oh, a date.
[18:16] <Steven_Zhang>,18374/
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[18:17] <{Soap}> good ol' Onion News Network
[18:17] <Tannerbaum> Kingpin13: Thanks.
[18:17] <Snowolf> Steven_Zhang: I take that it's some kind of joke news site? :P
[18:17] <rag> Ooh, the Onion.
[18:17] <Tannerbaum> Biased much?
[18:17] <Steven_Zhang> idk
[18:17] <Kingpin13> Yah. I asked him to clarify. Pointed to
[18:17] <Steven_Zhang> i thought it was real for a second
[18:17] <Gfoley4> never heard of the onion, Snowolf?
[18:17] <{Soap}> someone from this room introduced me to them a few years ago
[18:17] <{Soap}> I dont remember who
[18:17] <Steven_Zhang> but then i saw this.
[18:17] <Steven_Zhang>,8/
[18:18] <juancarlos> My English teacher in high school introduces us to The Onion in like 2003 or 2004.
[18:18] <Kingpin13> Tannerbaum, no problem, but you will probably get a bunch of false positives
[18:18] <Tannerbaum> all of the options are "GAY IS BAD" or "Eeh, gay marriage is meh."
[18:18] <juancarlos> *introduced
[18:18] <{Soap}> Ive been reading the onion for 12 years or so
[18:18] <Tannerbaum> Kingpin13: Doubt it
[18:18] <{Soap}> where is from?
[18:18] <{Soap}> "End the Fed ... and this Quiz?"
[18:18] <{Soap}> sounds like they pretty much wrote it for conservatives
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[18:19] <juancarlos> It seems neutral.
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[18:19] <rag> Yes.
[18:19] <Tannerbaum>
[18:19] <{Soap}> I think its for Republicans
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[18:19] <rag> democrats ftw
[18:19] <matthewrbowker> Anyone else think these are the same thing?  and ?
[18:20] <Tannerbaum> All of the candidates seem pretty insane
[18:20] <{Soap}> oh ok so the "end the fed" message is just one of many
[18:20] <Tannerbaum> Obama is probably the best one :P
[18:20] <SpitfireWP> The only thing on the onion which isn't false is the claim that they're "America's finest news source"
[18:20] <juancarlos> omg a spitfire
[18:20] <{Soap}> lol @ the "stock ticker" at the top
[18:20] <BarkingFish> matthewrbowker: that MARKINT article almost looks like an essay
[18:21] <SpitfireWP> juancarlos, :o
[18:21] <rag> :D
[18:21] <juancarlos> *avoids eye contact*
[18:21] <Tannerbaum> Kingpin13: Wait, abusefilter can't block account creation, can it?
[18:21] <{Soap}> it can
[18:21] <rag> iYes it can
[18:21] <Tannerbaum> I suppose it can block edits by users with a certain name
[18:21] <Tannerbaum> that'll work better
[18:21] <{Soap}> there's a filter running right now that keeps accounts from being created
[18:21] <rag> I think it can
[18:21] <{Soap}> but it's not used much because it has the potential to go horribly wrong
[18:22] <juancarlos> be the little engine that thought it could
[18:22] <{Soap}> we blocked a guy for being named Penniston once
[18:22] <{Soap}> and it was his real name
[18:22] <Kingpin13> Tannerbaum, uhm, have you seen
[18:22] <matthewrbowker> BarkingFish: Fair enough, thank you
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[18:22] <rag> {Soap}: Bet he was pretty mad
[18:22] <{Soap}> he never got an account
[18:22] <Tannerbaum> Kingpin13: Yeah, but tl;dr :P
[18:23] <{Soap}> so he probably gave up
[18:23] <Kingpin13> Tannerbaum, read it.
[18:23] <rag> "I give up!"
[18:23] <Kingpin13> Don't use the abuse filter to stop all editing based on the user name. Just prevent the user name from being created in the first place.
[18:24] <rag> Right.
[18:24] <Tannerbaum> It'll be based on name and how many links are in their edits
[18:24] <rag> mmhmm
[18:24] <Kingpin13> If they can't edit in the first place, why would the number of edits be relevant?
[18:24] <Kingpin13> Oh I see.
[18:24] <rag> "0"?
[18:24] <Tannerbaum> less false positives
[18:25] <Kingpin13> The number of links they are adding to the article with their edit?
[18:25] <rag> external links?
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[18:25] <rag> or wikilinks?
[18:26] <rag> ??
[18:26] <Tannerbaum> external
[18:26] <rag> ok
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[18:33] <Steven_Zhang> ha
[18:33] <Steven_Zhang> im back
[18:33] <Steven_Zhang> :P
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[18:34] <Steven_Zhang> so the onion is fake
[18:34] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[18:34] <Tannerbaum> bitch went to the groomer
[18:34] <Tannerbaum> cute ^_^
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[18:35] <rag> o.o
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[18:35] <LauraHale> Fluffernutter: <-- You're invited. :)
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[18:35] <LauraHale> We would like you there.
[18:35] <LauraHale> You're awesome. :)
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[18:37] <BarkingFish> 0.0
[18:37] <BarkingFish> Guys, I think we need a men only camp  -  we can't let the women get away with this :P
[18:38] <rag> Yes we do! :D
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[18:38] <Steven_Zhang> crap
[18:38] <Steven_Zhang> my boss is here
[18:38] <Steven_Zhang> D:
[18:39] <Hurricanefan25> Den get off teh IRC now ;>
[18:39] <rag> :D
[18:39] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[18:39] <Steven_Zhang> nevah
[18:39] <BarkingFish> Steven_Zhang: minimize it at least
[18:39] <Steven_Zhang> i kust have herald sun open in another tab
[18:40] <BarkingFish> good, minimize us and swap tabs :)
[18:40] <rag> <ı:)
[18:40] <Steven_Zhang> yep :P
[18:40] <Maryana> kingpin13: around?
[18:40] <Kingpin13> Maryana, yup.
[18:40] <Maryana> hi :)
[18:40] <Hurricanefan25> Meh
[18:41] <Maryana> can you remind me what the cutoff for "new user" is with SDPatrolBot?
[18:41] <Maryana> we're going to plug this into corensearchbot :)
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[18:41] <Hurricanefan25> Tat iz me
[18:41] <Kingpin13> 500 edits is what SDPatrolBot looks for.
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[18:42] <Maryana> any particular namespace, or overall?
[18:42] <rag> Maryana: Are you in San Francisco?
[18:42] <Maryana> rag: indeed
[18:42] <Tannerbaum> Steven_Zhang: Tab groups.
[18:42] <Kingpin13> Maryana, overall.
[18:42] <rag> Cool.
[18:42] <Ironholds> oooh, Tender Forever released a new album!
[18:42] <rag> o.o
[18:42] <Maryana> kingpin13: cool, thank you!
[18:42] <Kingpin13> No worries :)
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[18:43] <juancarlos> Ironholds: bludgeon whoever formatted the links as they were.
[18:44] <Ironholds> blame Fabrice!
[18:44] <Ironholds> it was fixed when I wrote it
[18:44] <Ironholds> (also, thank you for fixing it)
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[18:45] <juancarlos> yep np
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[18:47] <Tannerbaum> IS|Party: NO
[18:47] <Tannerbaum> YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARTY
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[18:47] <rag> o.o
[18:48] <juancarlos> usuariousuario
[18:48] <useruser> ;)
[18:49] <Tannerbaum> one down, two and three fourths to go
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[18:52] <rag> useruser: hi
[18:52] <useruser> Uh, hi?
[18:52] <BarkingFish> Dragonfly6-7: btw, just to let you know earlier, what happened to me WAS an incoming net attack.  How it happened is a mystery, but I have taken preventative measures to stop it happening again
[18:52] <Steven_Zhang> tab groups, Tannerbaum?
[18:53] <rag> :O You had an internet attack?
[18:53] <rag> BarkingFish
[18:53] <Tannerbaum> Steven_Zhang: Yes
[18:53] <useruser> :o
[18:53] <BarkingFish> I checked netstat after I pulled my USB wifi out, and found 30 open DPRK registered IP's in netstat
[18:53] <Tannerbaum>
[18:53] <rag> hmm
[18:53] <BarkingFish> which had all gone to TIMED_WAIT
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[18:55] <BarkingFish> rag - Yes. I was working earlier on a pisstake image of Kim Jong Il, and my PC went nuts.  I had about 30 odd apps open in my KDE system tray, all with Korean messages and instructions, and then gimp crashed - telling me "too many open files"
[18:55] <rag> hmm
[18:55] <BarkingFish> i had things turn up in my system tray which I've never even seen before
[18:55] <juancarlos> How did they gain access, BarkingFish?
[18:55] <juancarlos> You downloaded something?
[18:56] <BarkingFish> juancarlos: yes. An image of Kim from the KCNA website to use to cut bits of his image out of
[18:56] <{Soap}> aww
[18:56] <BarkingFish> possibly it could have been a rootki
[18:56] <BarkingFish> *rootkit
[18:56] <{Soap}> a rootkit on linux?
[18:56] <rag> o.o
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[18:57] <BarkingFish> it's quite feasible, {Soap} - we have software checkers to search for them, I just forgot to run mine when I came back on.
[18:58] <juancarlos> Evil people are evil :(
[18:58] <rag> true!
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[19:01] <BarkingFish> well chkrootkit shows nothing untoward
[19:01] <BarkingFish> I guess I'll put that one down to experience. I upped both my root password and my user passwords, and put UFW in place too
[19:01] <BarkingFish> the only thing getting in here now, is me.
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[19:03] <{Soap}> if you ever finish the image Id like to see it
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[19:03] <BarkingFish> {Soap}: What I was doing was my own personal view of what Wikipedia would look like if KJI controlled it
[19:03] <BarkingFish> Sort of "North Korea's very own Wiki"
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[19:04] <BarkingFish> {Soap}:
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[19:05] <BarkingFish> Bit of a rush job, but it's getting some attention on reddit :)
[19:05] <{Soap}> lol
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[19:07] <juancarlos>
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[19:13] <Gfoley4> nice, BarkingFish.
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[19:15] <BarkingFish> Someone else I was speaking to suggested the 1 article line, and I quite like that...
[19:16] <Steven_Zhang> 69 open AFDs.
[19:16] <Steven_Zhang> lol, 69
[19:16] <BarkingFish> "1 article in English - and you WILL READ IT!!! WE WILL MAKE YOU!"
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[19:17] <BarkingFish> Still takes me back to the banner I made for the 2010 fundraiser that got thrown out cause it wasn't PC... "Wikinews. We don't shout the news at you, like North Korea. We help you write it."
�08[19:17] <derp> mmmmmmmmmmmmm
�08[19:17] <derp> sixty nine
�08[19:17] <derp> :))
[19:17] <juancarlos> derp: Behave, please.
[19:17] �4B�8R�9I�11G�13H�4T�13
�08[19:17] <derp> no u
�08[19:17] <derp> juancarlos
[19:18] <HallowsAG> BarkingFish:  Well, it's better than the current banner
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[19:18] <BarkingFish> Is that what you tell the spanish police when your motor's been half inched???
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[19:19] <BarkingFish> "One car? los'"
[19:19] <HallowsAG> BarkingFish: hmm?
[19:19] <BarkingFish> HallowsAG: what's the current banner?
[19:20] <HallowsAG> If everyone reading this donated $5, the fundraiser would be over today"
[19:20] <{Soap}> i see no banner
[19:20] <HallowsAG> On Wikinews
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[19:21] <BarkingFish> HallowsAG: work out how many people would be reading it, and tell Jimbo if I can raise it, I'll donate it myself to shut the fundraiser up :)
[19:21] <BarkingFish> I wish...
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[19:21] <BarkingFish> After losing my job late last week, I'm living on precisely dick, and waiting for a couple of friends of mine to loan me some $imoleans via paypal.
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[19:22] <{Soap}> aww
[19:22] <BarkingFish> they can't do that till at least wednesday
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[19:22] <juancarlos> :(
[19:23] <juancarlos> Was it budget cuts?
[19:23] <BarkingFish> I may consider going back to my old line of work before I went to the Prison - going back into Social Work wouldn't be too bad.
[19:23] <BarkingFish> juancarlos: medical retirement
[19:23] <juancarlos> ah.
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[19:23] <BarkingFish> medically retired... at 37.
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[19:23] <BarkingFish> still 28 years till I get a pension, if I get a pension
[19:24] <Gfoley4> cool shades guy, last time I saw
[19:24] <GabrielF> seems like (in the US at least) social work is difficult and stressful for not a lot of money
[19:24] <{Soap}> yeah
[19:24] <BarkingFish> having not been born here, i don't know if I qualify for a state pension at 65/70
[19:24] <{Soap}> the plus side is there are a lot of job openings
[19:25] <GabrielF> someone told me that in China its a growing field where you can make good money
[19:25] <BarkingFish> GabrielF: I used to be in Child Welfare, went into Youth Prison work a year or two back, to give myself a change
[19:25] <GabrielF> that's a tough job
[19:26] <BarkingFish> Yeah. You gotta be hard, or gtfo :P
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[19:27] <GabrielF> I taught in an inner-city high school for a couple years and dealing with some of the kids who were in the foster care system was incredibly difficult
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[19:28] <GabrielF> I definitely admire people who stick with it
[19:29] <juancarlos> What subject did you teach?
[19:30] <GabrielF> I ran a yearlong technology program and we did some programming, media (video production but also some media literacy) and some hardware stuff
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[19:33] <juancarlos> Nice!
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[19:35] <GabrielF> it was a good experience - I liked the kids a lot and I liked the parts where we got to talk about stuff that they probably wouldn't see otherwise (what makes a good video for instance) but there were definitely kids who just couldn't sit still and be in class without causing problems and that part is incredibly draining
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[19:38] <Dragonfly6-7> BarkingFish - have you found more work?
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[19:39] <BarkingFish> Dragonfly6-7: Not yet, no.  I have applied for 2 posts, but I don't know how I'm gonna go for interviews, since it's obviously so close to christmas
[19:39] <{Soap}> hi Ktr101
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[19:39] <BarkingFish> I'm also gonna call the office where I used to work tomorrow, I was told when I left there I'd be welcomed back if I changed my mind
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[19:40] <BarkingFish> In the mean time, It's a case of literally going on the beg, and I hate it.  I've applied for "Jobseekers Allowance" here, but been told it could be into the new year before I get anything.
[19:40] <Ktr101> hey {Soap}
[19:40] <BarkingFish> Their claims get delayed quite a bit over christmas, since their offices are closed for several days
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[19:48] <GabrielF> wow - I didn't realize the WMF staff was up to 97
[19:49] <Steven_Zhang> shameless plug done
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[19:49] <Anna_Frodesiak> i may have done something inappropriate
[19:49] <tommorris> good inappropriate or bad?
[19:50] <Anna_Frodesiak>
[19:50] <Anna_Frodesiak> his article reoccurs like herpes on a 2 two bit streetwalker
[19:51] <Anna_Frodesiak> this is an obvious sock with a lame story. but not proven. should i have agf, or at least left it there as evidence for the sock investigation
[19:51] <Anna_Frodesiak> ?
[19:51] <Peter-C> Fluffernutter
[19:51] <Fluffernutter> hm
[19:51] <Fluffernutter> ?
[19:51] <Peter-C> You missed what happened at the meetup!
[19:51] <Fluffernutter> which was...nothinmg
[19:51] <Fluffernutter> ?
[19:52] <Peter-C> I proposed a Stragetic Stragety and got promoted to intern!
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[19:52] <Peter-C> I am not a volunteer with a job title!
[19:52] <Peter-C> *now
[19:52] <Fluffernutter> strategic strategy of...what
[19:52] <Peter-C> *stragetic plan
[19:52] <Fluffernutter> for what
[19:53] <Peter-C> the chapter
[19:53] <Peter-C> It is an outline on how to move forward
[19:53] <Peter-C> and make money, get new membership, and do more outreach
[19:53] <Fluffernutter> ...good luck with that
[19:53] <Mike_H> Fluffernutter: I might have been born just plain white trash
[19:53] <Mike_H> but Fancy was my name.
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[19:54] <Fluffernutter> you're still white trash, sweetie and you're not reba
[19:54] <LtNOWIS2>
[19:54] <Mike_H> You don't know that, suga.
[19:54] <Peter-C> I thought it was Mike...
[19:54] <LtNOWIS2> Main Paging that next December sounds like a pretty crazy idea
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[19:54] <Anna_Frodesiak> should i undo my edit?
[19:54] <Mike_H> Fluffernutter: Give me a red wig and dress and I would do that in drag.
[19:54] <Mike_H> Fat Reba.
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[19:55] <Peter-C> '''strong support'''
[19:55] <Peter-C> Fluffernutter - when do you go back to work after Christmas?
[19:56] <Fluffernutter> uh, tuesday i think
[19:56] <Peter-C> :(
[19:57] <Fluffernutter> why?
[19:57] <Peter-C> I want you to revise my stregety then!
[19:57] <Peter-C> (for grammar)
[19:57] <Fluffernutter> uh
[19:57] <Fluffernutter> i'm going to be a little busy, you know, having christmas
[19:58] <Peter-C> I will have it all done on Friday
[19:58] <Fluffernutter> that's christmas eve eve
[19:58] <Peter-C> Could you look at it at work on Tuesday
�06[19:58] * tommorris is suprised the pitchforks and flames haven't started flying in his direction already.
�06[19:58] * Peter-C tosses Fluffernutter at tommorris
�06[19:58] * Fluffernutter stabs tommorris with a pitchfork
�06[19:59] * Peter-C tosses harej at tommorris
[19:59] <Fluffernutter> Peter-C, i'd be happy to proofread for you at my usual rate of $25/hr
[19:59] <Peter-C> O_O
[19:59] <Peter-C> Don't do it for me, do it for Pharos!
[19:59] <tommorris> Peter-C: you could go for the Fluffernutter Expedited Service. Just her $2.99 and she'll just send you back an email saying "It's shit"
[20:00] <tommorris> *send her
[20:00] <Fluffernutter> haha
[20:00] <Peter-C> :D
[20:00] <Peter-C> harej - would you proof read it?
[20:01] <Peter-C> Sweet! My paper is at a 12th grade level!
[20:02] <tommorris> Peter-C: you know Ironholds will hurt you if you used the Readability Statistics in Word due to the major problems that Flesch-Kincaid has, right?
[20:02] <Fluffernutter> tommorris, Ironholds will hurt him for no reason anyway, just for fun
[20:02] <GabrielF> favorite thing I've read today:
[20:02] <Ironholds> thou shalt also avoid Gunning-Fog and SMOG
[20:02] <GabrielF> "Six GOP lawmakers want the Department of Transportation to erect signs along every unmarked road leading from New Hampshire into Massachusetts, stating: "Warning: Massachusetts Border 500 Feet."
[20:03] <Peter-C> Ironholds - what should I use xD
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�06[20:03] * Peter-C holds Steven_Zhang's daughter up to Ironholds
[20:03] <Ironholds> Peter-C: SMOG Index
[20:03] <tommorris> What is wrong with Flesch-Kincaid? Simple. The word "ontic" is considered more readable than the word "simplicity".
[20:03] <Ironholds> all the advantages of SMOG, none of the systematic bias
[20:03] <Thorncrag> o move a page inter
[20:03] <Ironholds> it does have a few issues, but less than the others
[20:04] <tommorris> SMOG Index > SMOG > Gunning fog > Flesch-Kincaid. That Microsoft still include that piece of shit is embarassing.
�06[20:04] * Peter-C screams SHIT at the top of his lungs
[20:05] <Peter-C> Fucking English revisions due tomorrow
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�06[20:05] * Peter-C pillage and plunders Fluffernutter's village in rage
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[20:07] <mabdul|busy>
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[20:07] <mabdul|busy> any admin want to handle this?
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[20:07] <mabdul|busy> per request in #wikipedia
[20:07] <GabrielF> fluffernutter: are you from massachusetts?
[20:07] <Fluffernutter> i am not, why?
[20:08] <GabrielF> 'cause they make marshmallow fluff in Somerville and MA is home to the fluffernutter
[20:08] <GabrielF> birthplace I think
[20:08] <Fluffernutter> heh
[20:08] <Fluffernutter> I'm northeastern, but not MA
[20:08] <GabrielF> they have a "what the fluff" festival in Somerville
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[20:10] <harej> [08:00:25pm]	<Peter-C>	harej - would you proof read it? << proofread what
[20:10] <Peter-C> Stragetic Plan
[20:10] <Peter-C> I want to expand and revise what I have, then give it to the community
[20:10] <harej> The problem with it is that you don't really have a strategic plan; you have a plan for a strategic plan.
�06[20:11] * Peter-C stands up dramaticaly
[20:11] <Peter-C> Get me a stragetic plan!
[20:12] <Peter-C> What should it look like?
[20:12] <Peter-C> Is it because I rushed when making it?
[20:12] <harej> Well, the Wikimedia Foundation wrote one. So something like this:
[20:12] <Steven_Zhang_> stupid connection
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[20:13] <harej> The content will most certainly be different, but consider what general ideas the plan addresses.
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[20:13] <Steven_Zhang> hai
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[20:17] <Tannerbaum> Out of the three programs I just installed on my dad's computer, two of them tried to include Chrom(e|ium)
[20:17] <Steven_Zhang> Ironholds: ping
[20:17] <crazynas> heh
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[20:22] <STANGE> Hey, why'd I see months ago that a user "wagged their tail at jeske?"
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[20:23] <harej> They have problems.
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[20:24] <STANGE> made a status like this:
�06[20:24] * STANGE wags her tail at JeskeCouriano.
[20:24] <STANGE> That's what they posted.
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[20:24] <Fluffernutter> ?
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[20:28] <IHaveYesticed> "
[20:30] <Thorncrag> Holy shit, this coffee is good.
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[20:41] <{Soap}> maybe they were a furry
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[20:50] <SpitfireWP>
[20:50] <SpitfireWP> Really, now.
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[20:51] <SpitfireWP> Why is everyone in that section speaking utter rubbish? >_>
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[20:51] <foks> "A worldwide block of english Wikipedia would send a very strong message, it would demonstrate the global impact of this legislation and wake up other actors/countries."
[20:51] <foks> ...would it?
[20:51] <foks> Or would it just make us look stupid
[20:52] <SpitfireWP> "omg censorship, lets censor wikipedia for a day to prove how strongly we feel about this."
[20:52] <Fluffernutter> it would make us look styupid to everyone not in america, and just piss off the people in america
[20:52] <Peter-C> ^
[20:53] <foks> what fluff said
[20:53] <Peter-C> Just use simple or spanish Wiki!
[20:53] <Peter-C> :D
[20:53] <SpitfireWP> Hahaha, no.
[20:53] <foks> I would support making it a FA. However I would oppose, in the absolutely most strongest terms anything more. Wikipedia is not a soapbox, and is not the place to right great wrongs; if Wikipedia itself soapboxes, it cuts out the heart of WP:NOT. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:03, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
[20:53] <foks> This is the most sane comment on that page
[20:54] <foks> (bar getting something to FA in a couple weeks)
[20:54] <SpitfireWP> (and then jumping the waiting entire list?)
�06[20:54] * SpitfireWP shrugs
[20:54] <SpitfireWP> entire waiting*
[20:55] <foks> Yea.
[20:55] <foks> Exactly.
[20:55] <foks> But yes, Jimbo supports "striking"
[20:55] <foks> so I can't see us not doing that
[20:55] <foks> sigh
[20:55] <SpitfireWP> He tends to find his ways of circumnavigating proper community process.
[20:55] <Prodego> foks: I think the wiki elite but non staff people are largely opposed
[20:56] <Prodego> staff are likely gung ho freedom people
[20:56] <foks> That's good, at least
[20:56] <foks> and the staff --
[20:56] <foks> yeah.
[20:56] <foks> haha
[20:56] <foks> LIBERALISM.
[20:56] <Prodego> I was reading about why stallman hated sudo
[20:57] <Prodego> that is really the ultimate example -
[20:59] <SpitfireWP> Wow.
[20:59] <SpitfireWP> I've never seen such a romantic description of a shared server. :P
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[20:59] <SpitfireWP> Makes it sound like Medieval England, hah.
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[21:09] <Steven_Zhang> admin?
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[21:09] <Steven_Zhang> ah, already semied.
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