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Session Start: Thu Dec 01 15:06:14 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
�03[15:06] * Now talking in #wikipedia-en
�03[15:06] * Topic is 'English Wikipedia: | Status: Up ( | Channel guidelines: | Channel operator: Ask in #wikimedia-ops or say !ops followed by the request | For urgent admin help, say !admin followed by the request | No public logging | Cloak requests: | ArbCom voting is open:�'
�03[15:06] * Set by slakr!koder@wikipedia/slakr on Tue Nov 29 10:39:02
[15:06] #wikipedia-en url is
[15:06] <SpeakFree> congrats tommorris I voted for you
[15:06] <Ks0stm|iPhone> Logan_: I can identify from here, I just have to do it manually. How do I group them?
�08[15:06] * derp hacks Ks0stm|iPhone
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[15:07] <Logan_> Ks0stm|iPhone: If you're identified now, just do /ns group.
�08[15:07] <derp> Ks0stm|iPhone, yep
�08[15:07] <derp> or for colloquy
[15:07] <Steven_Zhang> Colloquy few
�08[15:07] <derp> /nicks (then select nickserv) group
[15:07] <Logan_> But you're not, it seems.
[15:07] <Steven_Zhang> Autocorrect ftl
�08[15:07] * derp gives Steven_Zhang olives.
[15:07] <Logan_> Steven_Zhang: Autocorrect on your laptop? o_O
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[15:08] <Steven_Zhang> iPad
�08[15:08] <derp> OS X Lion has autocorrect :P
[15:08] <Logan_> Oh.
[15:08] <Steven_Zhang> Yer
[15:08] <Logan_> derp: Well, that explains a lot about Mac users. ;P
[15:08] <Steven_Zhang> Lol
[15:08] <Ks0stm|iPhone> Ok, got it. Thanks.
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�08[15:09] <derp> Logan_, if i press the e key, it doesn't do eeeeeeeeeee, instad, it prompts for é è ë 
�06[15:09] * Logan_ can't wait for Windows 8.
[15:09] <Logan_> I have the development version in a VM.
[15:09] <petan> yes I've seen that too
[15:09] <Logan_> derp: I guess that's somewhat useful. I just use a Spanish keyboard layout when I'm typing Spanish, so I just hit apostrophe-->letter to get a letter with an acute accent.
[15:09] <petan> start panel is creepy
[15:10] <Logan_> petan: Creepy?
[15:10] <petan> I don't know if it's better but it looked horrible in first version
[15:10] <Logan_> It's not like Sandusky is staring at your from your start menu.
[15:10] <Logan_> -r
[15:10] <Logan_> Did you use it, or are you solely basing your opinions upon screenshots?
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[15:10] <petan> I had it in virtual too
[15:11] <Logan_> It's quite smooth in the development version. And they're going to tweak it before the final.
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[15:11] <petan> I don't think that anything based on .net can be smooth
[15:11] <petan> thanks to all GC stuff
[15:11] <Logan_> I don't think that the W8 start menu is coded in .NET...
[15:12] <petan> who knows, I would say that most of windows is coded in .net
[15:12] <petan> but I never saw source code of anything from windows apart of some simple stuff
[15:12] <petan> which microsoft released as student examples
[15:12] <Logan_>
[15:12] <Logan_> Windows is mostly in C-based languages.
[15:12] <petan> c# and c++ is s based
[15:12] <petan> * c
�08[15:13] * derp hugs petan
[15:13] <petan> both can use .net
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[15:13] <petan> afaik most of windows used to be in c++
[15:13] <petan> so it can use .net too
[15:14] <petan> althought it would have to be cli/clr
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[15:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> c based languages?
[15:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Cobalt?
[15:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> :D
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[15:23] <Creoix> Question: When you do two tables right next to each other, it automatically puts a blank line in between them, is there a way to stop or get rid of this line?
�06[15:24] * Steven_Zhang is tempted to try close WQA again.
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[15:28] <petan> ToAruShiroiNeko: you know why c is called c?
[15:28] <petan> :P
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[15:30] <Steven_Zhang> G'day
�08[15:31] <derp> Can i walk in the Wikipedia server room with a TV degaussing wand?
[15:31] <petan> derp: no
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�08[15:31] <derp> y?
[15:31] <petan> :o
[15:31] <SpeakFree> I hoper there isn't just ONE Wikipedia server room
[15:32] <SpeakFree> hope
[15:32] <petan> heh, sort of... :P
�08[15:32] <derp> SpeakFree, there's a network :P
�08[15:32] <derp> squid proxies
[15:32] <petan> core of cluster is on one place afaik
[15:32] <Demiurge1000> Fluffernutter: Does suppression provide the ability to suppress the revision content but not the edit summary? (I'm trying to make sense of the gibbering at )
[15:32] <petan> and given that few days ago everything crashed because of one db server...
[15:32] <SpeakFree> I remember reading that at one time Wikipedia had been offline for half and hour because someone has tripped over the power cable of the only Wikipedia server.
[15:32] <SpeakFree> had
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[15:33] <Fluff|work> Demiurge1000: yes, it does. Suppression can remove edit summary, username, revision content, or any combination of the above (see
[15:33] <SpeakFree> pfffrt my typing skills have gone down a few notches or maybe it's time for a new keyboard.
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[15:34] <Demiurge1000> Fluff|work: brilliant, thanks
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[15:41] <Steven_Zhang> Fluff|work: I think I am ready
[15:42] <Steven_Zhang> :()
[15:42] <Steven_Zhang> :)
[15:42] <Fluff|work> ready for what, Steven_Zhang?
[15:42] <Logan_> To run for RfA again?
[15:42] <Steven_Zhang> Lol.
[15:42] <Steven_Zhang> Hardly. When I am comfortable creating an article from scratch to DYK status without help
[15:42] <Steven_Zhang> Then I know I am ready.
[15:42] <Steven_Zhang> Nah, to take my proposal to, ironically, an RFC
[15:42] <Logan_> [[Google Music]] ;)
[15:43] <Steven_Zhang> Or the village pump
[15:43] <Steven_Zhang> Well, I am working on [[NGC 2397]]
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[15:43] <Steven_Zhang> But it's too short :p
[15:43] <MooCow93> What is "locale", except in non-programming/non-software context?
[15:43] <Steven_Zhang> Locale, where something is located?
[15:44] <MooCow93> I want a term for how "number formatting", "date formatting", "time formats" and "money formatting" differs from place to place.
[15:44] <Steven_Zhang> Hmmm.
[15:44] <MooCow93> For instance, I am unsure whether it is in English OR in England that you do "1,000,000".
[15:44] <Steven_Zhang> In England
[15:44] <Steven_Zhang> :p
[15:44] <MooCow93> So if you write in English, but you are physically located in India, you might do "1'000'000"?
[15:44] <MooCow93> Even if the text is otherwise in English?
[15:45] <MooCow93> And you are from England?
[15:45] <Steven_Zhang> Nope
[15:45] <MooCow93> And you live in England?
[15:45] <Steven_Zhang> From Australia.
[15:45] <MooCow93> Huh?
[15:45] <Steven_Zhang> And live in australia
[15:45] <MooCow93> What?
[15:45] <Steven_Zhang> Ya know, the country, Australia.....
[15:45] <MooCow93> What about it?
[15:45] <Steven_Zhang> I live there :p
[15:45] <MooCow93> So?
[15:45] <MooCow93> I made an example.
[15:45] <Steven_Zhang> You asked me if I am from England
[15:45] <MooCow93> No...
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[15:45] <Steven_Zhang> Oh...I see :p
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[15:46] <MooCow93> I wonder when the locale kicks in.
[15:46] <Steven_Zhang> MooCow93: And you are from England?
[15:46] <MooCow93> And what the locale is called in non-software context.
[15:46] <Steven_Zhang> ^ did so :p
[15:46] <MooCow93> No, I am not, but it is 100% irrelevant.
[15:46] <Steven_Zhang> Pommieland
[15:46] <MooCow93> What?
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[15:47] <MooCow93> I'll ask this later because you destroyed this conversation. :|
[15:47] <Steven_Zhang_> Fluff|work: Not sure how to phase it at CENT
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[15:47] <Steven_Zhang_> Sorry :p
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[15:52] <jorm> why is kim bruning telling people i cut my hair?
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[15:53] <Steven_Zhang> Heh....
[15:54] <Fluff|work> you cut your hair?!!
[15:54] <Steven_Zhang> It doesn't look like it ever gets cut Brandon, tbh
[15:54] <Steven_Zhang> By anyone :p
[15:54] <jorm> i got a good 10 inches cut off it about a year and a half ago.
[15:54] <Fluff|work> that doesn't count, silly
�06[15:54] * Fluff|work looks stern
[15:54] <Steven_Zhang> What, was it down to your ankles?
[15:54] <Steven_Zhang> XD
[15:54] <jorm> waist.
[15:55] <Steven_Zhang> Fluff|work:
[15:55] <Fluff|work> oh that
[15:55] <Steven_Zhang> Rewritten.
[15:55] <Steven_Zhang> I think it's ready to take to, ironically, an RFC.
[15:56] <Steven_Zhang> I might just be bold, propose it for Senkaku islands.
[15:57] <Steven_Zhang> As that's a train wreck
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[15:57] <eeekster> Do not cut your hair:
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[15:59] <Qcoder00> Seen Ironholds?
[15:59] <Steven_Zhang> Negatory
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[16:00] <Steven_Zhang> Switching
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[16:04] <jorm> sup?
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[16:08] <Peter-C> jorm have you posed a 3d model of the ring yet?
[16:08] <jorm> oh, no, i haven't.
[16:09] <jorm> i haven't had more than 30 seconds downtime lately.
[16:09] <Peter-C> :(
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[16:22] <Qcoder00> Any admins?
[16:22] <Guerillero> yes
[16:22] <Qcoder00> PM
[16:22] <Qcoder00> ?
[16:23] <Guerillero> ok
[16:23] <Steven_Zhang> Qcoder00: beware
[16:23] <Steven_Zhang> he blocks VOAs for 3 hours :P
[16:23] <Steven_Zhang> XD
[16:24] <Qcoder00> What are VOA's?
[16:24] <{Soap}> Vandalism Only Account
�06[16:25] * Qcoder00 grins with an evil smile
[16:25] <Guerillero> will you please drop it
[16:25] <Guerillero> after sigma's comment I corrented it
[16:26] <Qcoder00> Soap:  The oprressive op cabal is repressing the  spirit of the vandal to make creative edits ? XD
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[16:27] <Qcoder00> Wiki Vandals,  Can't see why people can't just put them out of thier misery sometimes .... XD :O
[16:28] <Steven_Zhang> Guerillero: i kid, i kid :P
[16:28] <Steven_Zhang> Dude, an admin full protected my talk page like 3 years ago :P
[16:28] <Guerillero> why?
[16:29] <Qcoder00> Steven_Zhang:  People mistake ME for an admin !!
[16:29] <Qcoder00> :(
[16:29] <Qcoder00> I'm impressed people think I'm admin , but honestly with my reputation ...
[16:29] <Steven_Zhang> Guerillero: cos they made a silly accident :P
[16:30] <Steven_Zhang> 18:46, March 17, 2008 Delldot (talk | contribs) changed protection level of User talk:Steve Crossin ‎ (Gah! I am such a dummy [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed] (expires 08:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC))) (hist) 18:41, March 17, 2008 Delldot (talk | contribs) protected User talk:Steve Crossin ‎ (user request, heavy vandalism [edit=sysop:move=sysop] (expires 08:41, 17 March 2008 (UTC))) (hist)
[16:30] <Guerillero> your usermane and your irc name are diffrent
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�06[16:30] * SpeakFree will RFA when they change the title to Janitor
[16:30] <SpeakFree> It will be a RFJ then ;)
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[16:31] <Steven_Zhang> Guerillero: I am not Steve Crossin anymore :-)
[16:31] <Steven_Zhang> Hm...I am not sure whether to go to the VP
[16:32] <Qcoder00> Speak_Free:   ;)
[16:32] <Guerillero> no I was talking to Qcoder00
[16:32] <Qcoder00> Guerillero:  I have reasons why my IRC name and on wiki name differ
[16:32] <Qcoder00> ;)
[16:33] <Guerillero> it took a long time for me to link the names
[16:33] <Qcoder00> :)
[16:34] <Qcoder00> At least I don't go all hippy shift and have totally different personalitiy
[16:35] <Qcoder00> ;)
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[16:38] <DarkoNeko> zzz
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[16:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> if a captain sinks with his ship does that mean a colonel sinks with his army base?
[16:47] <Qcoder00> ToAruShiroiNeko:  I think the expression you want for a colonel, is 'dies with his boots on'
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[16:50] <Jeske_Couriano> Guys
[16:50] <Jeske_Couriano> Any idea why Chatzilla won't show up anymore on my FF install?
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[16:52] <StevenW> Jeske: maybe it's  incompatible with the latest FF release.
[16:52] <Jeske_Couriano> No, because it was working fine yesterday
[16:52] <StevenW> Hmm.
[16:52] <StevenW> Not sure then.
[16:53] <Qcoder00> HI people
[16:54] <Qcoder00> Does anyone here have a source for the use of a term 'The Knock'  to means HM Customs?
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[16:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Qcoder00 so captaisn take their boots off before the ship sinks?
[16:56] <Tannerbaum> yo
[16:56] <Qcoder00> ToAruShiroiNeko:  Erm...
[16:56] <Tannerbaum> Jeske_Couriano: What version of Firefox?
[16:56] <Qcoder00> English can be an odd language
[16:56] <Jeske_Couriano> 8.0
[16:56] <Tannerbaum> ok
[16:56] <Tannerbaum> isn't 9 out yet?
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[16:56] <Jeske_Couriano> 9's beta.
[16:57] <Tannerbaum> ah
[16:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Qcoder00 english is mostly odd
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[16:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> have you ever seen an English person at 5 o'clock?
[16:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they dip leaf fragments into hot water and drink it
[16:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they ritualistically sacrifice plants for their enjoyment!
[16:58] <Qcoder00> ToAruShiroiNeko:  Some Earth People are  funny too... They take loads of Potatos... They boil them for 20 mins... and then smash them to bits... XD
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[16:59] <Qcoder00> Clearly these earth people are primitive ;)
[16:59] <bep> only at 5 o'clock?
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[16:59] <Qcoder00> XD
[17:00] <bep> we Brits do that at 9 am, 10 am, 11 am, 11:30 am, 12 noon, 12:30 noon, 1 pm, 3 pm, 4 pm, 5 pm, 6:30 pm, 7 pm, 8 pm, 9:30 pm…
[17:00] <Jeske_Couriano> But, yes, I have FF 8.0 and ChatZilla's pulled a David Copperfield on me.
[17:00] <bep> i worked for a blue collar printing company once
[17:00] <bep> the amount of tea they drank
[17:00] <bep> cor blimey
[17:00] <Qcoder00> bep: You are british?
[17:00] <Qcoder00> bep: OK If you are British, How many verses of God Save the Queen are there?
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[17:01] <bep> NOT ENOUGH
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[17:01] <Qcoder00> (I don't want to have to get FIDO in here...)
[17:01] <bep> the only correct answer
[17:01] <bep> one day… i will get a ticket to the last night of the Proms
[17:01] <bep> and I shall sing that glorious song to her majesty
[17:02] <bep> with 5000 other people
[17:02] <Hurricanefan25> Is cheese.</quote>
[17:02] <bep> and it will be glorious
[17:02] <Hurricanefan25> hmm... ?
[17:02] <Qcoder00> bep: Next question...  What is the primary element of Toad in the Hole...
[17:02] <Qcoder00> ?
[17:02] <bep> sausages
[17:02] <bep> or mash
[17:02] <bep> and yorkshire puddings
[17:02] <Qcoder00> :)
[17:02] <bep> bit o' gravy
[17:02] <bep> some would say a pint
[17:02] <bep> but i prefer elderflower cordial
[17:02] <Hurricanefan25> and cranberry sauce
[17:02] <bep> or elderflower fizz
[17:02] <bep> mmmmmm
[17:03] <Qcoder00> Hurricanefan25:  ?
[17:03] <bep> cranberry sauce is not right!
[17:03] <bep> freak
[17:03] <Jeske_Couriano> ...
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[17:03] <Qcoder00> Hurricanefan25:  In England who declares war?
[17:03] <Hurricanefan25> ...
[17:04] <bep> Qcoder00; ask him if the UK is officially at war with Iraq
[17:04] <Qcoder00> bep: LOL
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[17:05] <tommorris> Qcoder00: James_F, obviously.
[17:05] <Qcoder00> Huh?
[17:05] <Qcoder00> He works in the FO?
[17:05] <tommorris> No, he just declares war by editing Wikipedia.
[17:05] <bep> oh thank god he left
[17:06] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  Wasn't there a Day Today sketch about a paxman eqsque anchor starting a war?
[17:06] <tommorris> dunno, never watched Day Today
[17:07] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  There was an item in the paper the other day claiming a number of chavs would fail the 'citizen' test the UK give immigrants
�06[17:07] * Qcoder00 also ponders if they give immigrants to Wales a different test...
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[17:09] <bep> of course they'd fail the citizenship test
[17:09] <bep> there are a number of questions designed to access suitability for working and living in the uk whilst integrating with our culture
[17:09] <bep> some of our lower classes fall outside that demographic
[17:09] <Qcoder00> bep: :O
[17:09] <tommorris> Qcoder00: you seen the 'racist woman on the tram' video? She would fail.
[17:09] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  No?
[17:10] <bep> oh lawd that women
[17:10] <bep> she has no idea
[17:10] <Qcoder00> What this video about then?
[17:10] <bep> you know she was arrested
[17:10] <tommorris> Qcoder00: I'll pull it up
[17:10] <bep> Qcoder00: stupid woman yelling at people on a tram, being very racist
[17:10] <bep> yelling at black people to go home
[17:10] <tommorris> Qcoder00:
[17:10] <bep> whilst everyone, black brown white purple look at her in disgust
[17:10] <Jeske_Couriano> bep, stop spamming the channel!
[17:11] <bep> Jeske_Couriano what
[17:11] <bep> explain
[17:11] <tommorris> Qcoder00: sorry, wrong one
[17:11] <tommorris> Qcoder00:
[17:11] <bep> Qcoder00 try not to choke with rage
[17:11] <Qcoder00> bep: I had one drunk on the tube going on about how the blacks should go home, to which one large Carribean gent stood up and loudly said his home was in Brixton and would the drunk shut up before he demonstrated why he'd one the Naval Boxing cup!!
[17:11] <Jeske_Couriano> bep) You're posting so rapidly nobody else can get a word in edgewise.
[17:12] <bep> Qcoder00 ahahaha
[17:12] <bep> Jeske_Couriano honey people can talk fine. if you want to start a conversation do so but please don't ask me to be quiet on an irc channel.
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[17:12] <Jeske_Couriano> I'm not asking you to be quiet. I'm asking you to stop monopolizing the conversation.
[17:13] <bep> Qcoder00: i hear variations on that all the time. "go home you <censored>" -> "I'm trying that's why i'm on the bus!"
[17:13] <Qcoder00> bep: The Carribean gent of course made his comments in a typical laid back West Indain style though...
[17:13] <bep> Jeske_Couriano: no-one is monopolising it, don't get paranoid
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�06[17:14] * tommorris has had a crazy racist lady on a train once
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[17:15] <tommorris> she got really irate at a group of Brazilian teenagers because they were speaking a mixture of Portugese and English, and then claimed that she was texting people who would be at the end of the line who would "fuck them up"
[17:15] <PeterSymonds> I was picturing a really old lady with lots of cats until you said the last part.
[17:15] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  SO19? XD
[17:15] <bep> the people who yell the most about immigration are often the most stupid
[17:15] <Qcoder00> Sorry Sorry that last joke was in very poor taste
[17:17] <tommorris> Qcoder00: nah, it was Hastings she was referring to. I once had a meal in a restaurant at about 6pm on a Friday night in Hastings. during my meal, i watched the ambulance, police *and* fire service go past. that's how they do it on a Friday in Hastings, before it even gets to 7pm.
[17:17] <tommorris> shithole.
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[17:17] <bep> PeterSymonds perhaps she threw a cat to punctuate each word
[17:18] <bep> "meow" "go home you" "mrow" "blah blah" "mow"
[17:18] <PeterSymonds> Heh. Perhaps.
[17:18] <PeterSymonds> But I can't imagine that sort of lady texting, let alone threatening to fuck people up.
[17:18] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  Another story I get told by transport people, is about a group of football holligans that had made monkey taunts at a staff member,  so lo and behold when they got to the end of the line, there was the ticket inspector (white) in
[17:19] <Qcoder00> a Gorilla mask, gruffly asking them for tickets they couldn't produce..
[17:19] <tommorris> nah, the best stupid twats on train story I had happened many a year ago, back in the old days of slamdoor trains
[17:19] <tommorris> a group of idiots got on the train without tickets. they taunted the guards and generally acted like pricks for two or three stops
[17:20] <Jeske_Couriano> bep) Sounds like Fluffy
[17:20] <tommorris> until they got off the train at a quiet rural stop, at which point the guard opened the door, beat the shit out of all of them, then hopped on the train just as it was pulling away
[17:20] <Jeske_Couriano> "Mreeow!" "Beat it, Fluffy!" "Mraa" "No, Fluffy, I'm playing the PS2!" "Meow!"
[17:20] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  No CCTV obviously?
[17:20] <tommorris> indeed
[17:21] <Qcoder00> (Or they happened to be replacing the tape at the time etc etc...)
[17:21] <tommorris> and what the rest of the train saw? three idiots knocked over on the platform and a guard walking through the carriage rather triumphantly
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[17:22] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  The Stattion Supervisor at my local station was a huge man, and played rugby for a local team. when a fare dodger walked straight past him once, the station supervisor performed a near perfect tackle, flooring the guy in the station yard.
�06[17:23] * tommorris is watching hilarious videos of people being racist fuckwits on trains
[17:24] <Qcoder00> I also get to hear unusal announcements...  like ' Customers are reminded that if we see smoke we will assume you are on fire, and take appropriate action!'
[17:25] <tommorris> it shows the difference between the US and the UK. UK has some uneducated idiot on the train ranting, while the US video is of a guy on the NY subway taking all his clothes off while shouting racist abuse at people
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[17:25] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  Do you get funny train announcements as well?
[17:25] <Qcoder00> like the one I mention above
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[17:26] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  That reminds me, I once got sat next to a 'service user' who swore blind that particualr train seats were trying to remove his sanity..
[17:26] <tommorris> Qcoder00: my favourite is "I'd like to apologise to the lader in the second carriage who requested a form to complain about the overcrowding on this service. I will not be able to deliver the form to her due to the overcrowding on this service."
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[17:27] <tommorris> s/lader/lady/g
[17:27] <Peter-C> If I become president I will shit my pants
[17:28] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  Not mine by on a forum site .. (in West Indian dialect) ' Ladies and Gentleman, welcome to the  London Victoria Sauna. ... Sadly you'll have to provide your own towel...'
[17:28] <Peter-C> That will be my campain promise
[17:28] <Qcoder00> *but
[17:28] <bep> hah
[17:28] <bep> idiots are idiots
[17:29] <bep> i've never seen an idiot on a train but i don't take the train much
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[17:29] <bep> god bless emma clarke.
[17:29] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  (Funny train announcements) ' To the gentleman on Platfom 3 taking a leak,  The entire platform can see you... and so can the Transport Poilice, who will be arriving shortly...'
[17:29] <bep> [[Emma Clarke]]
[17:31] <Qcoder00> bep: Do you get 'service-users' on buses?
[17:31] <StevenW> wikipedia-nl
[17:31] <bep> service whos?
[17:31] <StevenW> whoops, helps if you use the right command
[17:31] <SteveWork> Any arbs around?
[17:31] <Qcoder00> bep: Service users.. as in out patients of the local mental health provision
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[17:32] <Qcoder00> 'Service-user' seems to be the current  'nice' term...
[17:32] <bep> mental people?
[17:32] <Qcoder00> bep:  As in people with mental health issues
[17:33] <Qcoder00> They can be strange but they aren't for the most part the 'dangerous' OMG it's a scare in the community  sterotype
[17:34] <bep> i've never lived in a place near a mental hospital
[17:34] <Qcoder00> :(
[17:35] <Qcoder00> bep:You've never met serivce users?
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[17:35] <bep> service users is a term that confuses me
[17:35] <bep> it's utterly… unrelated
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[17:38] <Qcoder00> bep: Welll terms like 'nuts' aren't considered correct
[17:40] <bep> but service user is so… weird
[17:41] <Qcoder00> - Admin?
[17:41] <Qcoder00> Is it me or does Fastily sometimes apply the rule a bit literally?
[17:44] <Fluttershy-EN> guiz, when does Syria get it's official civil war article.
[17:45] <Fluttershy-EN> UN declared civil war in Syria today.
[17:48] <{Soap}> Im glad I dont have to live in Syria
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[17:53] <Fluttershy-EN> Syria is a great place to live.
[17:53] <Fluttershy-EN> I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
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[18:03] <Hurricanefan25>    
[18:03] <Hurricanefan25> Meh, that wasn't what I wanted to post.
[18:04] <Gfoley4> well then.
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[18:05] <Gfoley4> "Baby I got a plan, runaway as fast as you can."
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[18:05] <Crazynas> o.O
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�06[18:10] * Crazynas knows
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[18:11] <bep> the levenschtein distance between us, derp, is 2.
[18:11] <bep> me and thee, Peter-C? ~8
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[18:13] <Crazynas> any admins around?
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[18:13] <PeterSymonds> What's up?
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[18:17] <Jeske_Couriano> *RAEG*
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[18:21] <Fluttershy-EN> Fuck you.
[18:22] <Peter-C> O_o
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[18:22] <Peter-C> BarkingFish :d
[18:22] <Fluttershy-EN> also the new YouTube looks like shit.
[18:22] <BarkingFish> Fluttershy-EN: so did the old youtube
[18:22] <Fluttershy-EN> but at least the comments look more organized.
[18:22] <Fluttershy-EN> with the new one.
[18:22] <BarkingFish> and the first modification prior to that
[18:23] <BarkingFish> Youtube's always looked like it was thrown together by the site designer's seeing eye dog :)
[18:23] <Fluttershy-EN> It's only to whore Google+ moar. Not saying I hate G+
[18:23] <Fluttershy-EN> I think I use G+ more than Facebook now. lmao
[18:24] <Peter-C> What new youtube?
[18:24] <Fluttershy-EN> The design changed again.
[18:24] <BarkingFish> I avoid G+ like herpes, Fluttershy-EN - I already appear on facebook, twitter and enough social media without my search engine being able to keep tabs on me too
[18:24] <Fluttershy-EN> You're already fucked if you use Chrome.
[18:25] <Fluttershy-EN> Besides, I consider Google the lesser of the two evils.
[18:26] <BarkingFish> Thankfully, I also avoid chrome.
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[18:26] <Fluttershy-EN> Get SRware Iron, it's Chrome without the tracking code.
[18:26] <BarkingFish> I've stayed away from all things google ever since I found out they biased Youtube uploading in favor of people with Chrome
[18:26] <Fluttershy-EN> What do you use? Bing
[18:27] <Fluttershy-EN> I'd rather use Yahoo
[18:27] <Fluttershy-EN> over that shit.
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[18:27] <BarkingFish> Fluttershy-EN: for browser, Firefox, and for search engine, Yahoo
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[18:27] <BarkingFish> i use firefox in privacy mode, so I avoid all the cookies and shite associated
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[18:28] <Fluttershy-EN> plus, I think Microsoft is developing a social network.
[18:28] <Peter-C> oh lord
[18:29] <Fluttershy-EN> Not going to join it. But if it starts that intergration shit, Linux is going nom my PC entirely.
[18:29] <BarkingFish> they have a social network already. It's called "WHOCBTB" - we have our customers by the bollocks
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[18:29] <Qcoder00> BarkingFish: Evening
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[18:30] <BarkingFish> hi Q
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[18:30] <Fluttershy-EN> < is an Operafag btw.
[18:31] <Qcoder00> Fluttershy-EN:  ??
[18:31] <Fluttershy-EN> Qcoder00,
[18:31] <Qcoder00> I thought Operafag's were people that went to Wagner concerts with thier 'sepcial friends'
[18:31] <SteveWork> MasterofPuppets: :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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[18:31] <MasterofPuppets> Greetings!
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[18:32] <BarkingFish> Fluttershy-EN: I don't want to deride the all powerful opera, but I've never got on well with it, considering it throws a hissy fit at half the websites I visit and won't load them properly :)
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[18:34] <SteveWork> BarkingFish: how good are you with articles?
[18:35] <BarkingFish> depends what you need doing to them
[18:35] <BarkingFish> basic stuff, ok. anything more complex than a basic table and i'm fucked
[18:35] <SteveWork> well, I'm a total tard with articles.
[18:35] <BarkingFish> and you're only just telling us now??? :P
[18:35] <BarkingFish> lol
[18:35] <BarkingFish> sorry
[18:35] <SteveWork> lol.
[18:36] <SteveWork> Well it was brought up at my rfa and i've tried recently to do some articles
[18:36] <BarkingFish> ok, so what kind of issues are you having?
[18:36] <SteveWork> all I've managed so far is this.
[18:37] <SteveWork> well, i did expand
[18:37] <BarkingFish> nice, an astronomy article :)
[18:37] <SteveWork> but yeah
[18:37] <SteveWork> its too short
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[18:37] <SteveWork> :(
[18:37] <SteveWork> I'm having trouble adding to it
[18:37] <BarkingFish> which one's too short, the NGC 2397 article?
[18:37] <SteveWork> yea
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[18:38] <BarkingFish> hm, I'm pretty sure I could probably pad that out
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[18:39] <SteveWork> BarkingFish: I'm so worried about copyright and paraphrasing etc
[18:40] <SteveWork> I'd rather take on a bunch of POV pushing edit warriors any day
[18:40] <{Soap}> hi Pussy
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�08[18:40] <pussy> hey {Soap}
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[18:41] <BarkingFish> SteveWork: I've just had a hunt for it in my astronomy progs here, looks like it's not in my area, or i'd get some decent photographs of it.
[18:41] <BarkingFish> As it is, I'll stick to writing on it for now
[18:42] <Ryulong> I need some HTML help
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[18:43] <Joan> Ayn Rand?
[18:43] <BarkingFish> on the other hand, looking at how far away it is, maybe I wouldn't get some photos
[18:43] <Joan> The eminent 20th-century Russian-American philosopher?
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[18:43] <Crazynas> Joan: ?
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[18:44] <Joan> ¿
�06[18:44] * Crazynas thinks Rand considered herself a novelist first
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[18:45] <SteveWork> oh
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[18:45] <SteveWork> I was wondering
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[18:47] <SteveWork> BarkingFish: maybe you can expand that one so i can see how it's done
[18:47] <SteveWork> :-)
[18:47] <SteveWork> i was trying to get it to DYK but admittedly am struggling
[18:47] <BarkingFish> Sure, it won't be tonight though, most of my astro books are up in the attic, and I'm not setting foot in there at night
[18:47] <BarkingFish> :)
[18:48] <SteveWork> you have astronomy books?
[18:48] <SteveWork> I found some references but didnt copy much
[18:48] <SteveWork> copy/use
[18:48] <Crazynas> who doesn't have astronomy books? :P
[18:48] <SteveWork> me
[18:49] <SteveWork> i had a book once on terraforming
�06[18:49] * Crazynas has to many books
[18:49] <SteveWork> what venus would look like if it was like earth
[18:49] <Crazynas> lol
[18:49] <Crazynas> venus is earth, greenhouse crazy
[18:49] <Demiurge1000> SteveWork: The best book on that topic is "Practical Terraforming In Ten Easy Steps"
[18:50] <Qcoder00> Crazynas :  Hmm
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[18:50] <Crazynas> sorry, misread that last
[18:51] <BarkingFish> SteveWork: Sure, I've been crazy about astronomy since I was a kid.  Living in a place where there was no freaking light pollution made it a bloody good hobby.
[18:51] <BarkingFish> I'd sooner sit and watch stars than watch TV
[18:51] <SteveWork> :)
�06[18:51] * Crazynas saw jupiter last night
[18:51] <SteveWork> well im giving this article thing a go :P
�06[18:51] * BarkingFish looks to see where it is tonight
[18:52] <Crazynas> at least that's what my co-worker told me it was
[18:52] <Crazynas> :P
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[18:53] <BarkingFish> Crazynas: depends where you are in the world - it's certainly out of my FOV
[18:53] <BarkingFish> lists as "below the horizon"
[18:53] <Crazynas> what site are you looking at?
[18:54] <BarkingFish> Crazynas: do you have a linux system with KDE on?
�06[18:54] * Crazynas is on windows 7 atm :O
[18:54] <BarkingFish> ah
[18:55] <BarkingFish> You might still be able to get this - I know it's possible to have KDE stuff running on Windows, no idea how though
[18:55] <BarkingFish> It's a program called KStars
[18:56] <Crazynas> kk
[18:56] <Peter-C> BarkingFish - I will get a new PSU soon
[18:56] <BarkingFish> You set where you are either by place name and country, or by latitude & longitude - and it shows you a full 180° map over the horizon of everything present or that which should be within your field of view
[18:56] <BarkingFish> Peter-C: that's good.  Do you have enough holes to attach all the plugs to?
[18:56] <Peter-C> BarkingFish -
[18:56] <Peter-C> thoughts?
[18:57] <BarkingFish> Crazynas: I'll screenshot it for you and let you see the interface, it's quite nice
[18:57] <BarkingFish> one moment, Peter-C
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[18:57] <Peter-C> take your time
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[18:58] #wikipedia-en url is
[18:59] <Crazynas> BarkingFish:
[19:00] <BarkingFish> yeah, I like that. This is much clearer though, and a shitload easier to read too :)
[19:00] <SteveWork> see if i can work on plant articles
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[19:04] <Guerillero_> .
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[19:08] <BarkingFish> Crazynas:
[19:08] <BarkingFish> SteveWork: do you watch much TV?
[19:09] <BarkingFish> the main thing with writing articles is don't pick stuff you need to research the unholy fuck out of, write about what you know :)
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[19:10] <BarkingFish> It's a pity we don't have that many gay, bdsm, zoophilic horse porn entries, or I'd have them all at FA in a week :)
[19:10] <BarkingFish> ^joking
[19:10] <BarkingFish> or am I?
[19:10] <SteveWork> BarkingFish: yes
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[19:10] <SteveWork> i love 24 :P
[19:11] <SteveWork> my GA on 24 was called navel lint :(
[19:11] <BarkingFish> i noticed, it was referenced in your RFA
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[19:12] <BarkingFish> is there anything else you watch besides 24?
[19:12] <SteveWork> well sure
[19:12] <SteveWork> but nothing i write about :P
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[19:13] <SteveWork> i worked hard on the article too >_>
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[19:14] <BarkingFish> yes, I could see that.
[19:15] <BarkingFish> And if there's other stuff you watch, write about that too :)
[19:15] <SteveWork> nah
[19:15] <SteveWork> that will get called lint too
[19:15] <BarkingFish> Don't go looking for deliberately obscure shit - if you understand it, write about it :)
[19:16] <SteveWork> well i have been doing some paralympian stuff
[19:16] <SteveWork> its out of my comfort zone
[19:16] <SteveWork> which I need to do
[19:16] <Jeske_Couriano> Anyone have any ideas for a Mutants and Masterminds villain?
[19:16] <BarkingFish> the other thing is, you could get involved in some other stuff - what's your voice like?
[19:16] <SteveWork> My voice?
[19:16] <BarkingFish> Yeah
[19:16] <SteveWork> its aussie
[19:16] <BarkingFish> :/
[19:17] <SteveWork> lol
[19:17] <BarkingFish> I meant are you squeaky, deep voiced, do you sound like donald duck on helium, what?
[19:17] <SteveWork> idk
[19:17] <SteveWork> normal :P
[19:17] <BarkingFish> normal is subjective :)
[19:18] <BarkingFish> I asked because there's other areas of WP people don't much get involved in which need attention, like the Spoken Wikipedia
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[19:18] <SteveWork> Hm
[19:18] <BarkingFish> I've recorded a few articles for them, and to be honest, all you need to be able to do is read clearly, pronounce stuff and be able to record yourself doing it
[19:18] <SteveWork> my voice all over WP
[19:18] <SteveWork> heh
[19:19] <BarkingFish> MIne is in a few places, SteveWork - and it's not the greatest one ever heard.  We don't generally care what you sound like, as long as when you record yourself, it's clear and you can be understood
[19:19] <SteveWork> I more like the effect my DR reforms have :P
[19:20] <Jeske_Couriano>
[19:20] <Jeske_Couriano> How the fuck do you get a near-shutout in basketball?!
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[19:21] <Dragonfly6-7> ho ho fucking ho, what a crock of shit
[19:21] <SteveWork> hm?
[19:21] <SteveWork> BarkingFish: i think im ready to go to the VP again
[19:22] <BarkingFish> We all work for santa claus, we've had enough, we quit.
[19:22] <BarkingFish> Cause we do all the fucking work while he stars in the show,
[19:22] <BarkingFish> stick your christmas up your arse, Ho ho fucking ho.
[19:22] <SteveWork> eh?
[19:22] <BarkingFish> SteveWork: Kevin Wilson, australian comedian. One of the funniest people to come out of Australia
[19:23] <SteveWork> ah
[19:23] <BarkingFish> One of his pisstake christmas songs, along the lines of "Hey, Santa claus you cunt...."
�06[19:23] * SteveWork wonders if anyone wants to have a look at his radical proposal
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[19:24] <SteveWork> Seddon: yo
[19:27] <Lubaf>  /hide
�06[19:28] * Crazynas waves
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[19:30] <Dragonfly6-7> SteveWork - chemical, mathematical, or political?
[19:31] <SteveWork> hm?
[19:31] <SteveWork> my proposal?
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[19:32] <BarkingFish> omfg. This is fun. I want an iPhone 4S :)  Apparently from what I'm reading, it tells you where you can bury a dead body if you ask it!  That is something i'd consider carrying...
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[19:33] <{Soap}> mmm
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[19:33] <SteveWork> Really?
[19:33] <SteveWork> well it can
�06[19:33] * Jeske_Couriano still can't figure out why Chatzilla is not showing up in the toolbar on his FF install
[19:33] <SteveWork> if youre in america
[19:33] <BarkingFish> Guy in a youtube video I'm watching asks Siri "Where can I bury a dead body?" - It responds by asking him what kind of places he's looking for; dumps, waste sites, pits, quarries or rivers
[19:33] <SteveWork> I wonder how long it takes for this to go to ANI
[19:33] <SteveWork>
[19:34] <BarkingFish> He asks what it recommends, and it promptly gives him the address for the nearest quarry
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[19:34] <SteveWork> lol
[19:34] <SteveWork> in Aust
[19:34] <SteveWork> it just says it can only look for maps in the US
[19:34] <SteveWork> -_-
[19:35] <Dragonfly6-7> SteveWork - never mind, joke's not worth explaining
[19:35] <{Soap}> if it's on Arbcom isnt it already above and beyond what ANI can help with?
[19:35] <SteveWork> the case has closed
[19:35] <{Soap}> are you just saying Orangemarlin will be accused of something independently
[19:36] <SteveWork> orangemarlin cracking it
[19:36] <{Soap}> oh right I remember
[19:36] <{Soap}> Orangemarlin has been on end for a few months because hes in poor health
[19:36] <{Soap}> and I thought he retired
[19:37] <NuclearWarfare> No
[19:37] <NuclearWarfare> He had a fair chance of dying and is still in the hospital
[19:37] <NuclearWarfare> but is posting
[19:37] <Dragonfly6-7> NuclearWarfare - oh dear, oh dear.
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[19:37] <Dragonfly6-7> NuclearWarfare - what' swrong?
[19:37] <SteveWork> NuclearWarfare: hai
[19:37] <{Soap}> it looks like he came back on Nov 18
[19:37] <Addi|work> hey {Soap}
[19:37] <NuclearWarfare> Dragonfly6-7: cardiovascular issues, I believe
[19:37] <NuclearWarfare> He's at UCLA Med
[19:38] <SteveWork> my proposal is <- fwiw
[19:38] <SteveWork> he's dying?
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[19:38] <NuclearWarfare> this is how rumors get started
[19:38] <Alpha_Quadrant> NuclearWarfare: do you have a minute?
[19:38] <NuclearWarfare> he *had*
[19:38] <NuclearWarfare> Alpha_Quadrant: Yeah, sure
[19:38] <Alpha_Quadrant> can you delete this? It is most certainly not an editor review request
[19:39] <SteveWork> I wonder how long it will take to go to ANI
[19:39] <SteveWork> -_-
[19:39] <Alpha_Quadrant> the user wrote an article in Editor review space
[19:39] <Gfoley4> ?
[19:39] <Dragonfly6-7> SteveWork - we'
[19:39] <Dragonfly6-7> SteveWork - we're *all* dying
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[19:39] <NuclearWarfare> Alpha_Quadrant: done
[19:39] <Dragonfly6-7> of [[apoptosis]] if of nothing else
[19:39] <NuclearWarfare> If it goes to ANI, I'm going to smack someone
[19:39] <Alpha_Quadrant> thanks
[19:40] <NuclearWarfare> The moment that people start blocking editors for being mean to Arbcom, we've lost something
[19:40] <NuclearWarfare> They're big kids and can handle themselves
[19:40] <SteveWork> well slowly
[19:40] <Ironholds> Maryana, your chocolate is downstairs
[19:40] <Ironholds> come and collect it; I have already schlepped up to 6th once today.
[19:41] <Maryana> what? when?
[19:41] <Maryana> i didn't see you!
[19:41] <Dragonfly6-7> he's inivisible
[19:41] <Dragonfly6-7> that's how he's been poisoning you
[19:41] <Maryana> clearly
[19:41] <Dragonfly6-7> is that a deliberate pun?
[19:41] <SteveWork> im gonna go to the VP over lunch
[19:41] <Maryana> yes :-p
[19:41] <Ironholds> Maryana, I was wandering around being introduced to everyone and then had an hour long meeting with Siko and you didn't notice
[19:42] <Ironholds> maybe you're just blind
[19:42] <Ironholds> it'd explain the bottle-tops.
[19:42] <Maryana> i think i was in the collab space with steven and stu
[19:42] <Maryana> sorry
[19:42] <Maryana> we were talking about data
[19:42] <Maryana> data!
[19:42] <Ironholds> boooring
[19:42] <Ironholds> data < chocolate
[19:42] <Maryana> eh, depends what kind of data
[19:42] <Maryana> well, you'll be around tomorrow, right?
[19:43] <Maryana> you bring my chocolate to me
[19:43] <Maryana> i demand it
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[19:43] <Ironholds> gah
[19:43] <Ironholds> fine. I'll bring it up now on my way out for a smoke
[19:44] <Ironholds> where the hell are you?
[19:44] <BarkingFish> on the 6th floor, as you'd already noted, I'd imagine :)
[19:44] <Dragonfly6-7> I just realized that this song is about the fact that the Starship Enterprise has no toilets.
[19:45] <Maryana> oh, sorry, i'm not in the office. went to a coffee shop next door to work on templates.
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[19:46] <BarkingFish> damn, failed. I was gonna see if he'd tootle off back up to the 6th floor again :P
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[19:47] <Maryana> barkingfish: he might actually be on his way now
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[19:47] <Maryana> poor smokers lungs won't be able to cope with all those stairs
[19:47] <BarkingFish> oh crap
[19:47] <BarkingFish> no elevator?
[19:48] <Maryana> yeah, there's 2. they break every week.
[19:48] <BarkingFish> ah
[19:48] <Maryana> and people wonder why we ask for money :-p
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[19:49] <BarkingFish> Well you need to get them fixed by someone who doesn't have the mechanical competence of a snapped spanner
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[19:50] <BarkingFish> well, he's pinged out, Maryana - I'd get back up to the 6th before he realises you're not there :)
[19:50] <ZT> Anyone know when Tnxman will be back?
[19:50] <Maryana> barkingfish: nah, i like to mess with him :)
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[19:51] <BarkingFish> I just hope he doesn't have scrollback switched on, and sees what we said before he pinged out :)
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[19:52] <BarkingFish> I'm in the mood for some audio work. Anyone got any thoughts on an article they'd like to have made into audio?
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[19:56] <BarkingFish> I'll take that as a no :)
[19:56] <Alpha_Quadrant> BarkingFish: you could turn all the FAs into audio recordings
[19:56] <SigmaWP> BarkingFish: Record the coal balls
[19:57] <BarkingFish> Alpha_Quadrant: that's not a bad idea
[19:57] <SigmaWP> :(
[19:57] <ZT> BarkingFish:I'll help you if you block an obvious sock for me.
[19:57] <Gfoley4> He's not an admin.
[19:57] <Alpha_Quadrant> ZT:  he isn't an admin
[19:57] <SteveWork> Hmm
[19:57] <SteveWork> 3 minutes
[19:57] <BarkingFish> SigmaWP: i don't get what you mean by that - record the coal balls???
[19:57] <SteveWork> then boom
[19:57] <SteveWork> :P
[19:57] <SigmaWP> BarkingFish: Make an audio recording of
[19:57] <Alpha_Quadrant> BarkingFish: [[Coal ball]]
[19:57] <BarkingFish> ah, ok
[19:57] <Alpha_Quadrant> SigmaWP: that is only GA though
[19:58] <SigmaWP> So?
[19:58] <SigmaWP> The coal balls deserve it.
[19:58] <BarkingFish> I'll add that too, and do it on my way through :)
[19:58] <SigmaWP> :D
[19:58] <Fluttershy-EN> coal balls
[19:58] <Fluttershy-EN> moar like wool balls
[19:59] <SteveWork> 2 minutes
[19:59] <BarkingFish> If I'm not gonna write articles that much, and my cvn work has dropped to pretty much nil, the least I can do is keep adding audio.
[19:59] <BarkingFish> People have always told me I have a face designed for radio, it appears my voice was too :)
[19:59] <gde33> haha
[20:00] <SteveWork> 000
[20:00] <SteveWork> 0
[20:00] <SteveWork> boom
[20:00] <BarkingFish> SteveWork: you need an ambo?
[20:00] <SteveWork> lol
[20:00] <SteveWork> are you from australia?
[20:00] <SteveWork> no, i take it :P
[20:00] <BarkingFish> no
[20:02] <BarkingFish> I only know about 000 from watching multiple episodes of Bondi Rescue - you can guarantee one of their lifeguards is on the phone almost every episode requesting an Ambulance. It beats the fuck out of me why they don't have one permanently stationed at Bondi
[20:03] <Fluttershy-EN> Sigma (upper case ?, lower case ?, lower case in word-final position ?; Greek ?????) is the eighteenth letter of the Greek alphabet, and carries the 'S' sound. In the system of Greek numerals it has a value of 200. When used at the end of a word, and the word is not all upper case, the final form (?) is used, e.g. ???????? (Odysseus) ? note the two sigmas in the center of the name, and the word-final sigma at the end.
[20:03] <SigmaWP> What do you want
[20:04] <BarkingFish> What are you offering?
[20:04] <Fluttershy-EN> fuck you and your coal balls.
[20:04] <Fluttershy-EN> wheat balls for the win.
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[20:05] <BarkingFish> anyways, I'm gonna sod off and get on with some recordings - It's gone 1am here, so I'll probably only do a couple, and carry on tomorrow when I get home from court
[20:05] <SigmaWP> BarkingFish: Bye :D
[20:05] <BarkingFish> see ya :)
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[20:06] <SteveWork> balls
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[20:07] <SigmaWP> derpyfoo: :D
[20:07] <derpyfoo> SigmaWP: :D
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[20:08] <SigmaWP> Jeske_Couriano: If a page is moved by cut/paste during XfD, which page will be deleted?
�06[20:08] * Jeske_Couriano is in no mood
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[20:08] <SigmaWP> Gfoley4: If a page is moved by cut/paste during XfD, which page will be deleted?
[20:09] <Jeske_Couriano> One of my ChatZilla files is corrupted, and now I can't uninstall Firefox without reformatting c:
[20:09] <Peter-C>  OH DEAR GOD -
[20:09] <SigmaWP> >)
�06[20:09] * Peter-C burns art
[20:09] <SigmaWP> Capitalist filth being wasteful.
[20:10] <Gfoley4> SigmaWP: uh, neither? You're not supposed to move a page during XfD.
[20:10] <Peter-C> Oh, we're back on this?
[20:10] <Peter-C> Capatalisim is the best solution we have
[20:10] <Peter-C> Have a better idea?
[20:10] <SigmaWP> Gfoley4: PM, then? (so I dont' look like canvassing)
[20:10] <SigmaWP> Peter-C: Communism.
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[20:11] <Jeske_Couriano> I'm getting everything I can off of C:.
[20:11] <Gfoley4> yea
[20:11] <SigmaWP> jorm: Stay on the banners, so the RS keeps coming
[20:12] <Jeske_Couriano> Unless one of you guys know how to remove a corrupted file without reformatting?
[20:12] <SteveWork> Okay.
[20:12] <SteveWork> its now at the village pump ig anyone is interested.
[20:13] <SigmaWP> CACL
[20:13] <SigmaWP> Hm, I forgot, oh well
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[20:17] <Jeske_Couriano> Do any of you know how to remove a corrupted directory/file without having to format the drive it's on?
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[20:18] <SigmAway> CACL or something
[20:18] <SigmAway> Not sure
[20:18] <Jeske_Couriano> CACL?
[20:18] <SigmAway> Command prompt related
[20:18] <SigmAway> Forgot
[20:18] <SigmAway> Bye
[20:19] <jorm> still hoping to write an article about me, huh?
[20:20] <Jeske_Couriano> Dammit.
[20:20] <Jeske_Couriano> What the fuck is CACL?
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[20:22] <Jeske_Couriano> SigmAway) That will not work because the directory is corrupted and prompts me to *reformat* every time I try to enter
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[20:27] <gde33> I would like to find the right TFD, the one linked here doesn't seem to have the discussion.
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[20:28] <gde33> cant find it with search either
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[20:31] <Peter-C> Hey
[20:31] <Peter-C> random question
[20:31] <Peter-C> if someone was to be homeschooled, would they receive compensation for the materials
[20:31] <Peter-C> Ie. the money that would go to the schools is directed twards them?
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[20:32] <nprice> no
[20:32] <nprice> it would be tax-deductible though
[20:32] <nprice> i believe
[20:33] <nprice> actually
[20:33] <nprice> apparently the answer is just "no"
[20:33] <nprice> except in a few states
[20:33] <nprice> You cannot contribute to your own child’s K12 education and get any tax deduction for it, no more than if you sent him to a private school and tried to write off the tuition.
[20:34] <Seddon> strange
[20:35] <nprice> how so?
[20:35] <nprice> it makes perfect sense
[20:35] <nprice> we spend tax dollars to have public schools
[20:36] <nprice> you want to spend more tax dollars for people who don't want to use the public schools we already pay for?
[20:36] <SteveWork> Seddon: saw the rewritten proposal?
[20:38] <derpyfoo> k
[20:38] <derpyfoo> first stalmaster defeated.
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[20:42] <Dragonfly6-7> "Jonah Adam Falcon (born July 29, 1970) is an American actor and writer from New York City, who is known for his large penis.[1]"
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[20:43] <Hurricanefan25> >:( >:( Trolls are getting to me
[20:43] <derpyfoo> how
[20:43] <Hurricanefan25> User_talk:Hurricanefan25/Alternate
[20:43] <SteveWork> hopwdy TParis
�06[20:44] * Hurricanefan25 is angry
�06[20:44] * Hurricanefan25 wants to go troll-whacking
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[20:45] <TParis> Hi Steve
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[20:45] <ZT> [[Charles E. Alden]] do I really have to take this obviously not notable subject to AfD?
[20:46] <TParis> ZT: Yes
[20:46] <{Soap}> ha!!!
[20:46] <SteveWork> TParis: see my proposal kthnx :P
[20:46] <TParis> no u
[20:46] <{Soap}> a guy who wanted to create cellphones in 1906!
[20:47] <TParis> Steve: On your talk page or on one of the boards?
[20:47] <SteveWork> bottom of VPR
[20:48] <ZT> {Soap}: Probably just another guy who wanted to become famous back then by claiming extraordinary achievements. The guy who first found the headline created a video on youtube and claimed that Alden was actually a ...time-traveler
�06[20:48] * Dragonfly6-7 looks
�06[20:48] * ZT sighs
[20:48] <TParis> Steve: So you'd need a discussion to start a discussion?
[20:49] <SteveWork> uh?
[20:49] <SteveWork> A binding rfc shouldnt be taken lightly
[20:49] <SteveWork> an alternative is 5 to certify
[20:50] <TParis> Even Arbcom doesn't require a discussion to start it.  It requires attempts at other forms of resolution, but you dont need to discuss on ANI about starting an Arbcom case.
[20:51] <SteveWork> hmm
[20:51] <TParis> I think a binding RFC should be judged on the quality of it's discussion rather than a checklist before it's started.
[20:51] <SteveWork> 5 to certify?
[20:51] <SteveWork> hm
[20:51] <ZT> SteveWork: By definition RfCs aren't "binding".
[20:51] <TParis> That too
[20:51] <SteveWork> The idea of a content committee is abhorrent
[20:51] <SteveWork> hmm
[20:51] <SteveWork> suggestions appreciated...
[20:52] <ZT> Content committees are great if they're composed of capable and neutral editors
[20:52] <SteveWork> nah that idea will get shot down every time
[20:53] <TParis> Not really
[20:53] <SteveWork> TParis: this idea also wont be a conventional RFC
[20:55] <SteveWork> could you suggest alterations on the talk page? :)
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[20:55] <TParis> I don't have any.  I can't think of any proposal that fits with the pillars.
[20:56] <TParis> The binding RFC idea is just too buerocratic...(sp?)
[20:56] <SteveWork> :/
[20:56] <SteveWork> something needs to be done
[20:56] <TParis> I think we need to find a way to encourage experts to participate more
[20:56] <TParis> Somehow recognize experts in their field.
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�03[20:59] * SigmAway is now known as SigmaWP
Session Close: Thu Dec 01 21:00:46 2011

Session Start: Thu Dec 01 21:00:46 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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Session Close: Thu Dec 01 23:08:45 2011

Session Start: Thu Dec 01 23:09:53 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
�03[23:09] * Now talking in #wikipedia-en
�03[23:09] * Topic is 'English Wikipedia: | Status: Up ( | Channel guidelines: | Channel operator: Ask in #wikimedia-ops or say !ops followed by the request | For urgent admin help, say !admin followed by the request | No public logging | Cloak requests: | ArbCom voting is open:�'
�03[23:09] * Set by slakr!koder@wikipedia/slakr on Tue Nov 29 10:39:02
[23:09] #wikipedia-en url is
�12[23:09] -ChanServ- [#wikipedia-fr] Canal en UTF-8. La diffusion publique de journaux de ce canal est interdite. Merci de lire et de contribuer à la bonne humeur du canal. Bonne journée !
[23:12] <SteveWork> :|
[23:13] <foks> ahoy
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�08[23:14] * derp takes foks to Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
[23:15] <Ryulong> who's currently being used to ask for money
�06[23:16] * {Soap} offers derp a trip to Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg
�06[23:16] * Aranda56 rescues the channel from random long letter words places :D
[23:17] <Aranda56> I hate two jobs :(
[23:17] <thingg>
[23:18] <{Soap}> hey Thingg
[23:18] <{Soap}> havent seen you in a while
�06[23:18] * Aranda56 haven't seen a thigg in this channel in forever :P
[23:18] <thingg> hey {Soap} and Aranda56
�06[23:18] * thingg is graduating from college in 14 days
[23:19] <{Soap}> cool
[23:19] <thingg> thus I have more free time than I have in the last 4 years
[23:19] <Aranda56> congrats
[23:19] <thingg> thanks :)
�06[23:19] * Aranda56 is stuck in two jobs no time for school :(
[23:20] <thingg> that sucks :(
�06[23:20] * Tannerbaum is stuck in school no time for jobs :(
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�06[23:21] * Queen is stuck in two schools
[23:21] <thingg> :O
[23:21] <Aranda56> well one job lets me use wikipedia freely sometimes though i've becoming kinda inactive :(
�06[23:22] * Aranda56 should have graduated college by now if I didn't get ill midway :(
[23:23] <Aranda56> plus i missed a few summers, plus i fucked up my first year so I would have had been done with my masters maybe :P
[23:23] <SigmaWP> :O
[23:23] <SigmaWP> Capitalism
[23:23] <SigmaWP> Aranda56: Don't worry, when socialist paradise arrives all will be well
[23:24] <Aranda56> and my illness cost me my adminship :(
�03[23:24] * Ryulong (~user.ryul@wikimedia/Ryulong) has left #wikipedia-en
[23:24] <Aranda56> Tamara calls herself a "reclaimed virgin," admitting that she's had sex with multiple partners, but in recent years decided to refrain from sex until marriage. heh
[23:24] <SigmaWP> O.o
[23:25] <thingg> o_O
[23:25] <Aranda56>,,20549837,00.html
[23:26] <Aranda56> bleh I'm in eight tabs to eight different websites none of them wikipedia :(
[23:27] <PiRSquared17> I have 87 windows open now
[23:27] <PiRSquared17> all to WMF wikis
[23:27] <{Soap}> 2
[23:27] <SigmaWP> PiRSquared17: Open another window and your computer will explode
[23:27] <SigmaWP> Unless you're using Chrome
[23:27] <SigmaWP> Chrome puts tabs in a different process
[23:27] <PiRSquared17> Safari
[23:28] <Tannerbaum> i can have ~200 open
[23:28] <thingg> SigmaWP: forkbomb without fork() ftw
�03[23:28] * Alpha_Quadrant (~opera@wikipedia/Alpha-Quadrant) has left #wikipedia-en
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[23:28] <PiRSquared17> 87 windows are open in Safari. You have entered text on foo and 2 other pages. If you quit Safari, your changes will be lost. Do you want to quit anyway?
[23:28] <PiRSquared17> lol
[23:28] <gde33> texpad can open text files GB in size, there shouldn't be any limit rly
[23:28] <PiRSquared17> My estimate was *right on*
[23:28] <thingg> nice
[23:29] <Aranda56> i hate chrome and safari
[23:29] <SigmaWP> Firefox FTW
[23:29] <Aranda56> i only use firefox :P
[23:29] <Tannerbaum> Aranda56: <3
[23:29] <PiRSquared17> Lynx
[23:29] <Aranda56> ok i now have one wikipedia link :D
[23:29] <foks> lol Tannerbaum
[23:30] <foks> I'd be more appreciative of Firefox if it didn't forcefully update on my add
[23:30] <foks> * ass
[23:30] <Chris_G> firefox and opera
[23:31] <PiRSquared17>
[23:31] <foks> IceWeasel.
[23:31] <PiRSquared17> Thanks foks
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[23:31] <Logan_> Mosaic.
[23:31] <foks> No bother.
[23:32] <Aranda56> bleh Simple Wikipedia
[23:32] <PiRSquared17> ...
[23:32] <Addi|work> foks!
[23:32] <thingg> chrome
[23:32] <Addi|work> Logan_:Stadium?
�06[23:32] * Aranda56 moves foks permanently there :D
[23:32] <foks> o/
[23:32] <foks> I use Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari for different things
[23:33] <foks> Usually to avoid having to log out of sites I have more than one account on
[23:33] <Addi|work> :(
[23:33] <Aranda56> I stick to one
[23:33] <SigmaWP> Addi|work: Americans
[23:33] <SigmaWP> in capitalism
[23:33] <Addi|work> foks: Like Wikipedia?
[23:33] <Addi|work> Oh wait...
�06[23:33] * Aranda56 burns SigmaWP to capitalism
[23:33] <Addi|work> they don't..
[23:33] <Addi|work> nvm.
[23:33] <SigmaWP> What the coal ball
[23:33] <SigmaWP> 57 years old
[23:34] <Aranda56> bleh people on twitter is so stupid :(
[23:34] <Addi|work> Aranda56: Hypocrite.
[23:34] <Addi|work> "people on twitter is"?
[23:34] <Addi|work> Fuck.
[23:34] <gde33> twitter is teh stupid
�06[23:35] * Aranda56 don't even know why I have a twitter account I have 120 followers and I'm following 721 people mostly celebs :(
�06[23:35] * thingg follows three people who work on minecraft and thats it
[23:35] <Addi|work> thingg: Change your name :/
[23:36] <thingg> Addi|work: ?
[23:36] <PiRSquared17> ?
[23:36] <Addi|work> thingg: Honestly, your name should be UPOL for being so similar to The Thing.
[23:36] <Addi|work> :-
[23:36] <Addi|work> :-P
[23:36] <SigmaWP> Addi|work: That should not be!
[23:36] <Aranda56> Addi|work Thingg is a long standing IRC user and admin who came before him :P
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[23:36] <Addi|work> LOL.
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[23:37] <Addi|work> Just like Mr. Monopoly was and then the game was invented.
[23:37] <Aranda56> I should create a twitter account just for wikipedia purposes Secret_wiki or whatever :p
�06[23:37] * thingg queries if Addi|work is joking?
[23:37] <Logan_> Why am I so popular with Chinese spammers? :(
[23:37] <Aranda56> I follow a few people from wikipedia :p
[23:38] <PiRSquared17> Why am I so popular with ptwikinews vandalism?
[23:38] <Addi|work> Orangatang tits cumming down the hill.
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�06[23:41] * Aranda56 tabs this channel with {{db-nonsense}}
[23:44] <Guerillero> lol
�06[23:45] * SteveWork tags Aranda56 with {{db-person}}
[23:45] <SigmaWP> Guerillero: Get back to CSD deleting
[23:45] <SigmaWP> No time for idling
[23:45] <SteveWork> Guerillero: yeah!
[23:45] <Aranda56> ok for serious talk about wikipedia join #wikipedia-serious :P
�06[23:46] * Queen deletes both of them
[23:46] <SteveWork> BewareofDoug: I see you are editing your userpage
[23:46] <Alpha_Quadrant> Guerillero: you are an admin slave now, required to work 24/7/366
[23:46] <Guerillero> no
[23:46] <SteveWork> correction
[23:46] <slon02> btw, congrats
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[23:46] <SteveWork> 24/7/362.5
[23:46] <SteveWork> uh
[23:46] <SigmaWP> Work 25 hours a day
[23:46] <SigmaWP> 8 days a week
[23:46] <SteveWork> 24/7/365.25
[23:46] <Queen> No pay@
[23:46] <Alpha_Quadrant> eh, close enough
[23:46] <SteveWork> for life
[23:46] <SteveWork> ya know I'd jump at the idea
[23:46] <SteveWork> id always have something to do
[23:46] <Alpha_Quadrant> I just rounded up to drive the math symbol crazy
[23:47] <slon02> life? we're letting his soul get a break?
[23:47] <Aranda56> boo :(
[23:47] <Jeff_G> 24/7/365.250004
[23:48] <SteveWork> lol
[23:48] <Alpha_Quadrant> heh
[23:48] <Betacommand> Alpha_Quadrant: did you poke me yesterday?
�06[23:48] * SteveWork has been honoured
[23:48] <Alpha_Quadrant> Betacommand: yes, I was having trouble with one of the scripts
[23:49] <SteveWork> by Guerillero
[23:49] <Betacommand> Alpha_Quadrant: care to take it to PM?
[23:49] <Alpha_Quadrant> sure
[23:49] <SteveWork> Betacommand: editing your userpage I see.
�03[23:49] * aude is now known as aude|away
[23:49] <Betacommand> SteveWork: ??
[23:49] <SteveWork> oops
[23:49] <SteveWork> i meant BewareofDoug
[23:49] <SteveWork> :P
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�15[23:51] * BewareofDoug (~Doug__@wikipedia/Doug) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds�)
[23:51] <SteveWork> aw
[23:52] <PiRSquared17> MediaWiki internal error.
[23:52] <PiRSquared17> Original exception: exception 'MWException' with message 'MWNamespace::getTalk does not make any sense for given namespace -2' in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.18/includes/Namespace.php:40
[23:52] <PiRSquared17> ?
[23:53] <PiRSquared17> goes on for lines
[23:53] <PiRSquared17>
[23:54] <PiRSquared17> Did I break it?
�15[23:55] * Logan_ (~Logan@wikimedia/Logan) Quit (Quit: *.net *.split�)
[23:55] <Alpha_Quadrant> SteveWork: it looks like The Blade of the Northern Lights is going to make WP:100
[23:55] <PiRSquared17> ...
�06[23:56] * Jeff_G dreams of making WP:100 :)
[23:58] <{Soap}> no opposes yet
�06[23:59] * Aranda56 won't ever reach WP:100 again unless I create a new account :P
[23:59] <SteveWork> Yeah
Session Close: Fri Dec 02 00:00:00 2011