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Session Start: Wed Oct 26 13:49:00 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
�03[13:49] * Now talking in #wikipedia-en
�03[13:49] * Topic is 'English Wikipedia: | Status: Up ( | Channel guidelines: | Channel operator: Ask in #wikimedia-ops or say !ops followed by the request | For urgent admin help, say !admin followed by the request | No public logging | Cloak requests:�'
�03[13:49] * Set by derp! on Sun Oct 23 21:29:19
[13:49] #wikipedia-en url is
[13:53] <BewareofDoug> couverture: you wanted something?
[13:54] <couverture> BewareofDoug, just wanted to know if you can consider my request on enwiki, but I hope it won't no more be needed :-)
�08[13:54] * derp gives couverture a blanket.
[13:55] <BewareofDoug> Oh, sorry, I was at work but still logged on from home.
[13:55] <couverture> BewareofDoug, no problem, I thought requesting that was the only way to make my bot working, but I have find an other solution, and I'm trying it now
[13:56] <BewareofDoug> what was the request?
[13:58] <couverture> BewareofDoug, - but no need to do it right now :P
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[14:03] <BewareofDoug> Hmm interesting purpose.  I'm not sure the problem/solution is clear to me but if you need it let me know - somehow I'm inclined to trust you on it ;-)
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�08[14:09] <derp> hmm
�08[14:09] <derp> question
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�08[14:10] <derp> do you think visible plasma arcs in fluorescent-tubes a sign of defects?
[14:10] <TheCavalry> im scared to answer in case you're trolling me
[14:10] <SteveMobile> Yes
[14:10] <SteveMobile> No
[14:10] <SteveMobile> I don't know
[14:10] <TheCavalry> personal preference
[14:10] <SteveMobile> Can you repeat the question?
�08[14:10] <derp> TheCavalry, not trolling
[14:10] <TheCavalry> if in doubt, use it against raptors
[14:10] <BarkingFish> derp, generally, yes it is.  Arcing is a sign that the tube is damaged or the surfacing inside it is.  You need to replace the tube
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�08[14:11] <derp> tought so
�08[14:11] <derp> thanks BarkingFish :)
[14:11] <BarkingFish> np
�08[14:11] * derp will report it to the proper authorities
[14:11] <BarkingFish> While I'm at it, do we still have the external rewards board at enwp?
[14:12] <TheCavalry> I don't think we use it anymore, BarkingFish
[14:12] <BarkingFish> oh damn.
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[14:13] <BarkingFish> I have a video here I've been asked to subtitle for youtube, it's in a language I don't understand, and I wanted someone to write the text of the video in the language it's recorded in, so I can subtitle it. I'm getting paid for it, so the translator would also receive payment.
[14:13] <BarkingFish> I wanted to shove it up on the rewards board so I could find someone who'd help
[14:14] <juboubuntu> rewards board?
[14:14] <juboubuntu> try craigslist ?
[14:15] <BarkingFish> i wouldn't touch craigslist, and since it's not wikipedia related, I don't know if it can go on the rewards board.
[14:16] <juboubuntu> BarkingFish, what is this "rewards board" you speak of ?
[14:16] <BarkingFish> juboubuntu,
[14:16] <juboubuntu> 'k
[14:16] <BarkingFish> the one where you could pay for stuff was the Bounty board, again, they're both wikipedia related though
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[14:17] <Headbomb> is this shit real ?
[14:18] <BarkingFish> I just need someone essentially, who can listen to about 8 minutes of french, and write it down for me.  It's not hard, I can sorta understand french when I listen to it, but have no idea how to write what is being said.
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[14:21] <juboubuntu> BarkingFish, well the French are renowed for creating a language where <50% of letters are actually pronounced
[14:22] <juboubuntu> one of these days I'm going to translitterate French to western alphabet.. needs only one special letter that marks the throat-R
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[14:23] <harej> About how big is a cup of coffee? 8 oz? 16 oz?
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[14:23] <Headbomb> juboubuntu: don't really know what you're talking about, we french pronounce all letters
[14:23] <Headbomb> it's the english that have it all wrong
[14:23] <BarkingFish> I think the video is originally from youtube, it's an episode of a french cartoon called "nelly et césar", titled Cache cache (Hide and seek)
[14:23] <Headbomb> e.g. Dreadnought
[14:24] <Headbomb> and then masscare their own words, like dough naught --> donut
[14:25] <juboubuntu> btw. You cannot precisely describe the perfect doughnut in euclidian geometry
[14:27] <juboubuntu> an approximation can be made with balloons partially inside of each other but you cannot describe the donut perfectly
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[14:30] <juboubuntu> other things you cannot do is 1-to-1 one map color and light systems ( if you look close enough there is always disparency )
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[14:31] <juboubuntu> Ludvig Von Wittgenstein I think didn't prove this but just noted it in the marginals
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[14:32] <juboubuntu> and any evil AI is incomplete and shit proven by
�08[14:33] <derp> juboubuntu, where are you from?
[14:33] <juboubuntu> these are things that cannot be done.. describe the perfect donut in euclidian geometry 1-to-1 map color systems and light systems and have AI even near to perfectness
�08[14:33] <derp> Can i guess, finland?
[14:33] <juboubuntu> derp, Helsingfors, Finland
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[14:33] <BarkingFish> The Swedish quarter of Helsinki, right?
�08[14:34] <derp> hot.
�08[14:34] <derp> swedes are hot.
[14:34] <juboubuntu> BarkingFish, nah, just the Swedish name of the city.. I've this feeling that the name "Helsinki" has some major negative connotation issues with engwish speakers
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[14:35] <BarkingFish> I don't see how, juboubuntu - Helsinki / Helsingfors - it doesn't make much difference in my eyes. One in Swedish, one in Finnish. Other than that, I don't see the problem
[14:37] <juboubuntu> BarkingFish, Helsingfors means "The Rapids of Helsing" meanwhile Helsinki doesn't mean anything
�08[14:37] * derp is from Canada.
[14:37] <juboubuntu> derp, good for you
�08[14:37] <derp> Montréal exactly.
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[14:38] <juboubuntu> Kanada is epic... It's like a Scandinavian country that has 3000km border with USians
�08[14:39] <derp> and you know how it's marked?
[14:39] <Cavalry|Busy> with snow?
[14:39] <juboubuntu> So You get both your free healthcare and your free wrestling and 100 flavours of popcorn
�08[14:39] <derp> lol
�08[14:39] <derp> :P
�08[14:39] <derp> they cut trees 
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�08[14:39] <derp> it's a area without any trees
[14:40] <Cavalry|Busy> ooh
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�08[14:40] <derp> altough the top smuggling point near Montreal is trough the Mohawk nations.
[14:41] <juboubuntu> derp: I learnt my Engwish in the western suburbs of Montreal when I was 10 yrs old
�08[14:41] <derp> cool :)
�08[14:41] <derp> Altough it was often done in Québec at the Stanstead town...
�08[14:42] <derp> there's a street that is right on the international line
�08[14:42] <derp> north is canada
�08[14:42] <derp> the neighbours in front is USA
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[14:45] <juboubuntu> derp: If I ever prosper I'm moving to Canada, preferably Vancouver for overlapping sailing and snowboarding season or perhaps Montreal so I can use my French and Engwish daily..
[14:45] <juboubuntu> not that there are much chances of me prospering..
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�08[14:47] <derp> cool :)
[14:48] <juboubuntu> I don't starve, I don't freeze, I'm good.
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[14:50] <Fluffernutter> Article I didn’t really want to come across of the day (semi-NSFW): [[Fordyce's spot]]
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[15:07] <Cavalry|Busy> Hmm. What's happening at #occupyoakland?
[15:07] <Cavalry|Busy> the twitter tag, not the channel
[15:07] <Fluffernutter> they got rousted, i think
[15:07] <Cavalry|Busy> apparently there is tear gas and rubber bullets
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[15:07] <Fluffernutter> well, they got rousted and fought back
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�06[15:14] * Ironholds whimpers
[15:14] <Ironholds> according to current data, we have six new page patrollers who were born in 2001
[15:14] <Ironholds> I am either (a) getting really old or (b) being fed porkies :P
[15:15] <qcoder00> Pesky: Ping?
[15:15] <pOULOUKS> Is there a canadian here :) ?
[15:15] <Aranda56> Ironholds what data?
�15[15:15] * BarkingFish (~BarkingIn@openglobe/BarkingFish) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds�)
[15:15] <Ironholds> Aranda56: we're running a big New Page Patroller survey
[15:15] <Ironholds> 700-ish responses so far (I think it's 776 or something)
[15:16] <Aranda56> Ironholds yea I saw on my talk page
[15:16] <Cavalry|Busy> Fluffernutter:
[15:17] <Cavalry|Busy> that's *oakland*
[15:17] <Cavalry|Busy> there's shotguns and explosions and things
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[15:18] <Fluffernutter> oakland isn’t that pleasant a place to begin with, I don’t think
[15:18] <Ironholds> Oakland is a fine place!
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[15:18] <Ironholds> it's for people who can't afford SF
[15:18] <Ironholds> namely, reasonable human beings
[15:19] <qcoder00> Well it's the US...
[15:19] <qcoder00> Police in the UK woudn't resort to 'gassing' citizens...
[15:19] <StevenW> Hey speaking of the survey: so we're sending it to anyone who has mark a page as patrolled lately?
[15:19] <StevenW> Because I got it.
[15:21] <Aranda56> i think so, including people who gets a page patrolled automatically
[15:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> qcoder00 UK gasses
[15:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> have you been to the london metoro?
[15:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> urgh!
[15:23] <Theo10011> hello horrible people
[15:23] <Demiurge1000> yes, hello
[15:23] <Fluffernutter> hello evil dude
[15:23] <harej> PURPLE is my favorite DRINK!
[15:23] <Theo10011> ragebucks
[15:24] <Theo10011> quoting dave chapelle?
[15:24] <harej> Indirectly.
[15:24] <Theo10011> #lame
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[15:24] <harej> Theo10011: How am I "ragej" ?
[15:25] <Theo10011> because you rage.
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[15:25] <harej> Doesn't everyone rage from time to time?
�06[15:26] * Fluffernutter rages absently
[15:26] <Ironholds> harej: I've cut down on my raging
[15:26] <Ironholds> I'm on a rage diet. Rage zero. A hundred callories less than actual rage.
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[15:30] <LauraHale> I don't recall makring any pages patrolled.
[15:30] <LauraHale> I was confused to have gotten the newsletter
[15:30] <Demiurge1000> LauraHale: It's all Ironholds' fault.
[15:30] <Theo10011> off with his head!!!
[15:31] <harej> Exclamation points!!!!!!
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[15:31] <LauraHale> er survey, not newsletter
�06[15:32] * LauraHale will blame the easter bunny rather than ironholds
[15:32] <Demiurge1000> They are one and the same.
[15:32] <Steven_Zhang> Ohai.
[15:33] <Fluffernutter> g’morning Steven_Zhang
[15:34] <Steven_Zhang> A good morning indeed, I've decided it's time p
[15:34] <Steven_Zhang> :p
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[15:40] <juboubuntu> Ce-est les temps ?
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[15:45] <juboubuntu> o hai mabdul
[15:46] <Steven_Zhang> Hey um
[15:46] <Steven_Zhang> WP:RM.
[15:46] <Steven_Zhang> Admin only?
[15:48] <WilliamH_UK> oh wow 31 people watch my user page
[15:49] <juboubuntu> WilliamH_UK: I didn't know you can count how many people watch a page..
[15:49] <WilliamH_UK>
[15:49] <Demiurge1000>  ^ the worst
[15:49] <juboubuntu> oh 'k
[15:50] <juboubuntu> I bet 0 people watch my user page
[15:51] <Fluffernutter> oh wow, I have 63, that’s way more than the last time I checked
[15:52] <WilliamH_UK> if it's less than 30 it wont say
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[15:55] <Ironholds> I've got 252
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[15:56] <Steven_Zhang> 135 :p
�06[15:56] * Fluffernutter sobs and runs off to the corner to sulk that someone’s more watched than her
[15:56] <Steven_Zhang> Heh
[15:56] <juboubuntu> we only look for epic vandalism when we watch user-pages
[15:56] <Steven_Zhang> Hey ironholds, are RMs admin only?
[15:57] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: well, if you were to explain what the hell an "RM" was I might be able to tell you
[15:57] <Steven_Zhang> Requested moves.
[15:57] <Steven_Zhang> :p
[15:57] <harej> Requested moves aren't admin-only.
[15:58] <Ironholds> the line at the top of RM reading "Administrator help is required in *some* situations. Such moves can also be listed here." (asterisks are mine) would seem to answer your question.
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[15:58] <Steven_Zhang> Ah, okay.
[15:58] <Steven_Zhang> :-)
[15:58] <harej> I have 196 watchers.
[15:59] <Ironholds> harej: PWND
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[15:59] <harej> k
[15:59] <harej> I'm not sure why I still have so many watchers. I don't do ANYTHING on Wikipedia anymore.
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[16:01] <Steven_Zhang> Heh
[16:01] <juboubuntu> I'm going to edit the 'pedia one of these days..
[16:01] <juboubuntu> found the perfect spot.. not clarified enough and no refs to break..
[16:02] <Ironholds> harej: it's been three days since I actually logged into my editing account
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[16:02] <juboubuntu> Ironholds: you keep count?
[16:03] <Ironholds> juboubuntu: I'm working for the Foundation at the moment
[16:03] <Ironholds> so I'm logged in for 12-18 hours a day...never to edit for pleasure :P
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[16:03] <Ironholds> after six years as an editor that's something you kinda notice
[16:04] <juboubuntu> Ironholds: still doing the undetstandability metrics thing or something new after that ?
[16:04] <juboubuntu> *understandability
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[16:05] <Ironholds> juboubuntu: we're working on designing a new Special:NewPages interface at the mo
[16:05] <Ironholds> well, I say "we"
[16:05] <Ironholds> they do all the heavy lifting, I just get users to do vox pops about the ideas :P
[16:06] <Dragonfly6-7> Ironholds - did my survey come through properly?
[16:06] <Ironholds> Dragonfly6-7: no idea. Did you stick your username and/or email address in?
[16:06] <Ironholds> (otherwise I won't be able to identify it)
[16:07] <Steven_Zhang> Ironholds, I got a survey :p
[16:08] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: of course you did :P
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[16:08] <Ironholds> Dragonfly6-7: I can't find your username. So...well done for rendering yourself unidentified :p
[16:08] <Steven_Zhang> Hehe so did everyone else :p
[16:08] <Dragonfly6-7> my username, yes
[16:08] <Demiurge1000> Ironholds: Beware, random IP address writes vaguely coherent stuff about legal-ish topic
[16:08] <Dragonfly6-7> Ironholds - one thing I suggested was that the lifespan of the queue be extended
[16:09] <Ironholds> Dragonfly6-7: ah, noted
[16:09] <Ironholds> I'll pull it out in a bit, then, I have to draft up this page by ..7pm tomorrow.
[16:09] <Ironholds> so far I've been at work for 13 hours. Go me.
[16:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds what do you work on?
[16:10] <Ironholds> ToAruShiroiNeko: the internets
[16:10] <Ironholds> :P
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[16:10] <Ironholds> BarkingFish, you like the Article Feedback Tool?
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[16:10] <juboubuntu> the pollster himself ?!?!?
[16:11] <BarkingFish> Honestly, no. If people don't like an article, or like an article, that's precisely what the talk page is for.
[16:11] <juboubuntu> ah.. no.. a question of preferrance
[16:11] <BarkingFish> The article feedback tool is nothing more than feature creep
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[16:12] <Steven_Zhang> Ech
[16:12] <juboubuntu> BarkingFish: well all the world getting their say in what should ( and sometimes what should not ) be leads to all sorts things..
[16:12] <Steven_Zhang> Dragonfly6-7: I can't find a good reason why this isn't an a7
[16:12] <Dragonfly6-7> feeping  creaturism
[16:12] <Steven_Zhang>
[16:13] <TheCavalry> If I write an article about a dull subject, it gets average ratings. If I write about a DEATH ROLLEROASTER OF JUSTIN BEIBER, it gets 5/5 even if it's shit
[16:13] <Steven_Zhang> TheCavalry: Yea
[16:13] <BarkingFish> juboubuntu, isn't that what consensus is though? Everyone getting their say in something which should or should not be?
[16:13] <TheCavalry> just enable for everyone
[16:13] <Ironholds> BarkingFish: feature creep?
[16:13] <Steven_Zhang> Dragonfly6-7: What do you think
[16:13] <Dragonfly6-7> Steven_Zhang - it seems that he's notable as a businessman?
[16:13] <Dragonfly6-7> I'm not sure
[16:14] <Ironholds> BarkingFish: okay. What if I told you we were thinking of replacing it with an actual comments box that fed to a talkpage-related feed?
[16:14] <Steven_Zhang> I read through it
[16:14] <juboubuntu> BarkingFish: consensus != NPOV but apparently close enough to make the 'pedia work in practice
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[16:14] <Steven_Zhang> I might prod it. That reference in the lede is actually a link to another wiki :p
[16:14] <BarkingFish> Ironholds, I wouldn't mind that, it would be a help instead of someone just ticking ratings to get their thoughts on the article
[16:15] <BarkingFish> As long as you're not planning to use LiquidThreads, I don't mind :)
[16:15] <Ironholds> BarkingFish: liquidthreads is the mind-killer
[16:15] <juboubuntu> wtf is liquidthreads ? ( gfgi ? )
[16:15] <Ironholds> I've already said "if you want users to comment on new stuff, don't turn liquidthreads on. Half of them will bugger off."!
[16:16] <Ironholds> *-!
[16:16] <BarkingFish> Tell me about it. WN wound up coding something so LQT didn't look like a broken vbulletin thread, Ironholds
[16:16] <Ironholds> juboubuntu: think of it as the aborted lovechild of iOS and vbulletin
[16:16] <Ironholds>
[16:16] <Dragonfly6-7> ah!
[16:16] <Dragonfly6-7> "aborted" ? That's confirmed?
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[16:17] <Ironholds> Dragonfly6-7: no, as in "disturbed while still foetal and gloopy" :P
[16:17] <Ironholds> as in "an abortion"
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[16:17] <Steven_Zhang> Lol aborted
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[16:17] <Ironholds> should I ever choose to stage a coup on Wikipedia, I will host it on a LQT talkpage, safe in the knowledge that that is the best possible way to avoid any user ever choosing to read it.
[16:17] <BarkingFish> Dragonfly6-7, imagine the leftovers of a sexual encounter between a hippo and Mel B from the spice girls, then kill it.
[16:17] <Dragonfly6-7> Ironholds - I know what it means. What I was hopiing to be told is "Liquid Threads will not be put into place".
[16:17] <BarkingFish> That's LQT
[16:17] <Ironholds> BarkingFish: eurgh
[16:17] <Ironholds> Dragonfly6-7: I'd love to be able to say that, but it falls into the "not my remit" category. I've been tasked to work on other (unrelated) things.
[16:17] <Ironholds> so I honestly don't know.
[16:18] <Dragonfly6-7> BarkingFish - you mean, santorum?
[16:18] <BarkingFish> What, Ironholds? They're from the same genetic line, it wouldn't be that bad :P
[16:18] <Ironholds> BarkingFish: hehe
[16:18] <Ironholds> that's offensive. To the hippo.
[16:18] <BarkingFish> Dragonfly6-7, I mean "totally shite beyond the borders of shiteness itself, and then some."
[16:19] <Dragonfly6-7> BarkingFish - .... so, yes. Santorum.
[16:19] <Ironholds> no, no
[16:19] <BarkingFish> It's the one time WM's coders should have used a condom to prevent that coming into existance. They should have used it to suffocate the person who coded it :P
[16:19] <Ironholds> BarkingFish is getting philosophical on us
[16:19] <Ironholds> he's talking about the famed Platonic Shite
[16:20] <Ironholds> the quintessential and perfect form of shite from which all other shite is merely a well-intended yet amateurish knockoff
[16:20] <BarkingFish> got it in one.
[16:20] <BarkingFish> It is the perfection of shite
[16:20] <Dragonfly6-7> BarkingFish - do you know about santorum ?
[16:20] <Ironholds> the best worst thing ever
[16:20] <BarkingFish> Dragonfly6-7, no
[16:20] <Ironholds> Dragonfly6-7: he's a gay man in Milton Keynes. Know about it? Yeah. First hand.
[16:20] <Ironholds> BarkingFish: srsly?
[16:20] <Ironholds> oh dear oh dear
[16:20] <BarkingFish> yep
[16:21] <Ironholds> well, my joke there falls a bit flat, then
[16:22] <Dragonfly6-7> BarkingFish - [[Rick Santorum]] is a deeply religious, intensely homophobic right-wing American politician who is currently running for president.
[16:22] <Dragonfly6-7> a few years ago, sex advice columnist [[Dan Savage]] (who is openly gay) held a contest to redefine "santorum" as a hideously grotesque sexual term.
[16:22] <BarkingFish> ah.
[16:23] <BarkingFish> Well frankly I don't give a flying feck who becomes president, as long as it's not him.
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[16:23] <OwlSecretary> hi.
[16:23] <Dragonfly6-7> if you google "santorum", the first hit is not the politician, but the sexual term
[16:23] <Dragonfly6-7> try it!
[16:23] <OwlSecretary> lool.
[16:23] <OwlSecretary> no.
[16:24] <OwlSecretary> O.o
[16:24] <OwlSecretary> It does.
[16:24] <Dragonfly6-7> well, that was for BarkingFish, not you
[16:24] <OwlSecretary> k.
[16:24] <BarkingFish> I can't right now, Dragonfly6-7 - our internet access is incredibly poor right now, i can barely get on IRC without losing connection.
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[16:25] <BarkingFish> Thankfully, 2 weeks from now, we're finally getting cabled, and these [removed by the net faeries] beacons can go take a flying leap into an acid bath
[16:25] <Ironholds> BarkingFish: it's the frothy mix of lube, ejaculate and fecal matter that results from anal sex
[16:25] <Ironholds> that is a santorum
[16:25] <OwlSecretary> Hi IronHolds.
[16:25] <Ironholds> Ironholds: the World's Educator.
[16:25] <Ironholds> hey OwlSecretary
[16:25] <OwlSecretary> Hai.
[16:25] <BarkingFish> 0.0
[16:25] <Dragonfly6-7> Ironholds - no 'a'. Just "santorum".
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[16:26] <harej> Right. It's an uncountable noun.
[16:27] <Steven_Zhang> Erm
[16:27] <Steven_Zhang>
[16:27] <Steven_Zhang> Thats definitely a speedy.
[16:28] <OwlSecretary> O.o I am gay, fuck him.
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[16:30] <juboubuntu> Steven_Zhang: the guy lives in Kerala, anyone living there is notable,  I mean they've had a democratically elected communist party ruling for 30 yrs in a row the last time I checked ( that was in the 90's )
[16:30] <Steven_Zhang> Lol...
[16:30] <juboubuntu> and literacy rate of 98% or thereabouts
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[16:30] <OwlSecretary> hii.
[16:31] <juboubuntu> hi OwlSecretary, do you have messages for us ?
[16:32] <OwlSecretary> No.
[16:32] <OwlSecretary> But,
[16:32] <OwlSecretary> That Santorum Guy, IS AGAINSTS GAYS.
[16:32] <OwlSecretary> Fuck him, I am proud I am GAY.
[16:32] <OwlSecretary> What's his problem?
[16:32] <OwlSecretary> Is he Asexual and Jealous?
[16:32] <Demiurge1000> Surely that means that /you/ should fuck him, not us?
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[16:32] <OwlSecretary> Him..
[16:33] <OwlSecretary> I mean, the Santorum Guy.
[16:33] <Demiurge1000> Yes.
[16:33] <OwlSecretary> BUT
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[16:33] <OwlSecretary> I am not effin him, he goes to hell.
[16:33] <juboubuntu> I'd advice against fucking other men unless explicitly agreed to..
[16:33] <OwlSecretary> I am not effin him, he goes to hell.
[16:33] <OwlSecretary> Is what I sai.
[16:33] <OwlSecretary> d*
[16:34] <WilliamH_UK> Given the notorious antics often attributed to highly conservative/family-guy/anti-gay American politicians, I often wonder if they are anti-gay and promote laws against homosexuality just so they can feel dirty while doing it
[16:34] <juboubuntu> OwlSecretary: Jesus tells us to pray for our enemies ( I find this part in his teachings hard to follow, I struggle with it  )
[16:34] <OwlSecretary> Tbh
[16:34] <OwlSecretary> Religion is a belief.
[16:34] <OwlSecretary> NOT
[16:34] <OwlSecretary> Scientifically Proven.
[16:34] <juboubuntu> OwlSecretary: the probing powers of science are quite limited
[16:34] <juboubuntu> s/probing/proving
[16:35] <OwlSecretary> We're just at the beginning of science.
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[16:35] <OwlSecretary> Plus, where the heck is the angels? Where do they pop out! WHERE IS THE SOUL Now? There IS NONE..
[16:36] <Dragonfly6-7> OwlSecretary - are you alyxuk_ ?
[16:36] <OwlSecretary> I am Catholic, but like it's sorta ridiculous.
[16:36] <OwlSecretary> aly what?
[16:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ?
[16:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> do you have his consent?
[16:36] <juboubuntu> OwlSecretary: the soul exists, that's beyond doubt if you ask me, but then again you'd be more likely to ask a scientist and they can't really say this or that based on their science
[16:37] <Demiurge1000> alyxuk_ doesn't normally talk like that, at least not without a crate of beer first.
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[16:37] <OwlSecretary> LOL, no.
[16:37] <OwlSecretary> I am OwlSecretary, i am new to freenode.
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[16:38] <OwlSecretary> Plus, why dont we observe a person die, get some "Ghost People" or "Phsykicks" to see a soul rise up..
[16:39] <Ironholds> okay, guys!
[16:39] <juboubuntu> surely everyone dies of their heart stopping ?
[16:39] <Ironholds> objections to the Article Feedback Tool, please?
[16:39] <alyxuk_> yo
[16:39] <OwlSecretary> Actually, this is a viable argument.
[16:39] <alyxuk_> why was my name mentioned :P?
[16:39] <OwlSecretary> Juboubuntu
[16:39] <juboubuntu> Ironholds: Is that the query at the end of every article ?
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[16:39] <Ironholds> juboubuntu: indeed
[16:39] <alyxuk_> oh, i see why i was mentioned
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[16:40] <OwlSecretary> I said, when someone dies, let's look for the soul's shell :P which wont be there/fake..
[16:40] <alyxuk_> i wouldnt have been as nice as OwlSecretary is, i'd have just called you an idiot, dont worry.
[16:40] <juboubuntu> Ironholds: all voting is not wiki
[16:40] <Ironholds> the four ratings are not providing useful feedback, we can't tell what readers are thinking, a reader's definition of "objectivity" may be different from an editor's....
[16:40] <Ironholds> juboubuntu: yes, thank you for that :P
[16:40] <juboubuntu> not saying that you can't incorporate wiki and voting, just that it's unnatural somehow
[16:40] <OwlSecretary> Religion is belief right IronHolds? IT WAS NEVER ever scientifically proven.
[16:41] <alyxuk_> my issue with religion is a seperate one, although recently my perceptions have changed slightly.
[16:41] <juboubuntu> OwlSecretary: religion is _organized_ belief
[16:41] <Ironholds> OwlSecretary: I'm not discussing religion :P
[16:41] <OwlSecretary> Organized, but not proven.
[16:42] <OwlSecretary> If God is supposed to protect us from evil and is supposedly omnipotent (everywhere at any given time) and omnibenevolent (the ultimate in good), why doesn't he save us from the present evil already?!
[16:42] <juboubuntu> OwlSecretary: that is one very widely known theological problem you are presenting
[16:42] <juboubuntu> it's been pondered a long time
[16:43] <OwlSecretary> True.
[16:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the only true religion is the worship to ice cream
[16:43] <alyxuk_> im less concerned with the god issue these days, because i have new perceptions of things, ive moved away from my fairly militant antitheism towards a better understanding of things
[16:43] <BarkingFish> OwlSecretary, this is the result of the banishment from the Garden of Eden, the punishment from God for the sin committed there. The disobedience of the first man and first woman are what leads us to this.
[16:43] <juboubuntu> ToAruShiroiNeko: pasta
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[16:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> manliest of all food stuff, ice cream is the true way
[16:44] <ToAruShiroiNeko> pasta is madlax's god
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[16:44] <ToAruShiroiNeko>
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[16:44] <OwlSecretary> If God already knows the future and created us in his image, then humanity is destined to know everything He knows and we will not have the true free will we have. An example is this very argument. I don't know if I will get lots of hate from religious ppl or not so I'm saying this to see the reaction. If I knew what the reaction would be, like "God", I wouldn't be writing this.
[16:45] <OwlSecretary> Explain ;)
[16:45] <alyxuk_> organised religion is still false, but humans DO have the potential to interact with the universe in abstract ways (when certain methods are used)
[16:45] <BarkingFish> I can explain this in one word.
[16:45] <BarkingFish> Troll.
[16:45] <alyxuk_> i dont think OwlSecretary is a troll :P
[16:45] <OwlSecretary> No. Viable Arguments here.
[16:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> arguments are never visible
[16:46] <juboubuntu> OwlSecretary: Free will does exists despite the clues to the opposite that the universum presents bombards us with constantly
[16:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> unless written
[16:46] <BarkingFish> alyxuk_, joins freenode, comes straight to our channel, and starts talking bullshit in an attempt to kick up an argument.
[16:46] <BarkingFish> that sounds like troll to me
[16:46] <alyxuk_> who, OwlSecretary? nah.
[16:46] <harej> It's why I have him on ignore! :)
[16:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> lets talk about bullshit
[16:46] <BarkingFish> either that, or he's trying to get us to do his homework :)
[16:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 1 and 2 euro cents are bullshit
[16:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> as much as pennies
[16:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> fuck 1 and 2 euro cents
[16:47] <OwlSecretary> LMFAO!! Homework.. right.
[16:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> OwlSecretary dont abriviate LMFAO again
[16:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> or do it properly
[16:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> OMGLMFAOWMFBBQ
[16:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> like that
[16:48] <juboubuntu> or we'll keelhaul you under enwiki's database dump
[16:48] <BarkingFish> ToAruShiroiNeko, i agree with you on that, I don't use one and two pence pieces, they go in a bucket, and at the end of the month, they go to tesco, into a coin sorter and get turned into usable coinage.
[16:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> all prices must end with a 0 or a 5
[16:49] <Dragonfly6-7> ToAruShiroiNeko - was that a deliberate typo ?
[16:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dragonfly6-7 which?
[16:49] <Dragonfly6-7> OMG LMFAO WMF BBQ
[16:49] <juboubuntu> BarkingFish: my working theory is that the correct sentence is "Spare me my change" .. then they can proceed to do either of two things 1) keep it as a tip or 2) hand it on to someone who is really down and out
[16:49] <Dragonfly6-7> WMF instead of WTF
[16:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> oh, yes
[16:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> foundation barbeque <3
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[16:50] <juboubuntu> Wikimafia foundation keeps on screwing the world's proletariat over
[16:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> would we have tofu on wmfbbq?
[16:51] <juboubuntu> ToAruShiroiNeko: I know what is better. Halloumi cheeze
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[16:51] <juboubuntu> it truly grills
[16:51] <BarkingFish> juboubuntu, loose change (or shrapnel as it's colloquially known here) is a freaking nightmare. I hate the stuff. we should go back to having a one pound note, revaluing our currency and starting from there.
[16:51] <Peter-C> Ironholds - Would you compare yourself to Andre Jackson?
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[16:51] <Ironholds> Peter-C: who?
[16:51] <Dragonfly6-7> BarkingFish - I would gladly accept all your loose change
[16:51] <Peter-C> *Andrew
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[16:52] <BarkingFish> Halloumi is wonderful.  Just don't let it get cold once it's grilled, or it's like eating a pencil eraser
[16:52] <Peter-C>
[16:52] <juboubuntu> BarkingFish: I thought the £££ gets revalued daily on the free market
[16:52] <Dragonfly6-7> Ironholds - Andrew Jackson, aka President Genocide
[16:52] <Peter-C> ^
[16:52] <Peter-C> He killed Charles Dickenson in a duel
[16:52] <Ironholds> Peter-C: like his statist policies, loathe his racism and y'know, genocide
[16:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Salisbury City Police Foundation?
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[16:53] <Peter-C> Ironholds - what about dueling?
[16:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Andrew Jackson was a sore looser at wii tenis
[16:53] <Peter-C> ._.
[16:53] <Peter-C> ._.'
[16:54] <Dragonfly6-7> "loser"
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[16:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dragonfly6-7 but he won
[16:54] <qcoder00> BarkingFish:Ping
[16:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> just got looser aka slimmer
[16:54] <Ironholds> Peter-C: I'm not much of a dueller, to be honest
[16:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> until he got sore
[16:54] <BarkingFish> boing.
[16:54] <BarkingFish> Hi qcoder00
[16:54] <Ironholds> for some reason my aim gets much worse when people are firing musket balls at my skull. Funny, that.
[16:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds you let their balls touch you?
[16:55] <Ironholds> that reminds me - must get my next tat tomorrow.
[16:55] <BarkingFish> Until I joined the sealed knot, I never knew that when you got shot with a musket ball, it wasn't the shot that killed you :P
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[16:55] <qcoder00> BarkingFish:  Sealed Knot?
[16:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> musket balls are still their balls
[16:55] <qcoder00> barkingFish: see Query
[16:56] <Ironholds> qcoder00: ren people
[16:56] <BarkingFish> Apparently, the balls were made from pewter which had lead in it, it was more likely lead poisoning
[16:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they should have used bbs
[16:56] <qcoder00> BarkingFish: You are involved with re-enactors?
[16:56] <qcoder00> On which side?
[16:56] <BarkingFish> lead on its own was too soft for the size of the ball, it wouldn't have penetrated the skin
[16:56] <qcoder00> XD
[16:56] <Ironholds> BarkingFish: I dunno, I think if you get hit in the face with a high-velocity lump of pewter, it's not likely to be lead poisoning except figuratively.
[16:56] <BarkingFish> qcoder00, Parliamentarian
[16:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds high concentration of lead in the body in any shape or form cant be healthy
[16:57] <qcoder00> BarkingFish:  Figures
[16:57] <qcoder00> ;)
[16:58] <juboubuntu> ToAruShiroiNeko: lead is great for making keels for sailboats
[16:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sail boats?
[16:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> what are you a pirate in one piece?
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[17:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I demand conpensation
[17:05] <OwlSecretary> Compensation*
[17:05] <OwlSecretary> brb
[17:06] <Ironholds> ToAruShiroiNeko: here's 20p
[17:06] <BarkingFish> Here is your coMpensation. A free spellchecker, courtesy of me.
[17:06] <BarkingFish> :P
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[17:06] <juboubuntu> ToAruShiroiNeko: you must mean satisfaction... since you are the one calling it on it means that I get to choose the weapons used
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[17:07] <OwlSecretary> back
[17:07] <juboubuntu> I choose s ... we have to chance to survive, make our time
[17:08] <OwlSecretary> LOL
[17:08] <OwlSecretary> @ barkingFish
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[17:11] <OwlSecretary> Woo, Alyx is my friend now.
[17:12] <Dragonfly6-7> oh! That reminds me.
[17:12] <juboubuntu> This year 2011-11-11 and 2012-12-12 are coming, then 89 years of no such dates where all the digits are the same.. Wanna guess what weekday 2101-01-01 is ( hint: this is easy to guess )
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[17:13] <juboubuntu> You're slow, Jan 1st 2101 is a Saturday..
[17:13] <OwlSecretary> LOL
[17:13] <OwlSecretary> k.
[17:13] <Dragonfly6-7> it's VERY easy to guess
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[17:13] <Dragonfly6-7> it's very easy to guess *anything*
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[17:13] <Dragonfly6-7> .... Cyde!
[17:15] <juboubuntu> .. unless the world ends before 2101..
[17:15] <OwlSecretary> lol.
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[17:17] <juboubuntu> .. which is highly unlikely
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[17:29] <jorm> so i guess one of my talks is uploaded now but the cameraman decided not to include the slides.
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[17:32] <Ironholds> jorm: link! I didn't get a chance to see yours
[17:33] <jorm>
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[17:33] <Ironholds> thank you muchly
[17:33] <juboubuntu> I really wish they woulda had a quick war trial for Gaddafi, charged with killing his own peoples en masse and convicted to death by dropping from an airoplane and let a lock on and do away with him
[17:33] <juboubuntu> presto. funeral problem solved. The guides would say "This is where he rained down." and charge them $1.5
[17:37] <jorm> slides here:,_Reputation,_and_Gratitude.pdf
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[17:41] <Lubaf> juboubuntu: I don't agree with you, but I freely admit the idea has a certain charm to it.
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[17:42] <juboubuntu> Lubaf: it's too late to kill him in an alternate and more cinematic way
[17:42] <juboubuntu> oh.. and to have a trial too
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[17:43] <mareklug> juboubuntu:  he had a bayonet up his ass.  that's pretty cinematic
[17:44] <juboubuntu> mareklug: I thought he was beaten somewhat and then shot by some trigger-itchy hero with a semiautomatic in the stomach and head.. that's what I heard anywas
[17:44] <juboubuntu> *anyways
[17:44] <mareklug> juboubuntu:  you're behind the news.  google "gaddafi sodomized"
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[17:48] <juboubuntu> just because it gets 721,000 hits doesn't mean it happened
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[17:48] <juboubuntu> !op
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[17:49] <juboubuntu> should we try to ROT-13 his lines ( kiddin' )
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[17:50] <Ironholds> jorm, user has a request to make individual deletion, move entries etc linkable-to. Who should I direct that to?
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[17:50] <jorm> on what?
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[17:51] <Ironholds> so, if something is deleted or moved, it appears in the logs. Is there any way to link to an individual log entry? Like you can do with diffs?
[17:51] <Gfoley4> [[Special:Log/page]]
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[17:51] <Ironholds> Gfoley4: point! I'll send it through.
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[17:53] <Gfoley4> Ironholds: oh crap. That doesn't work.
[17:53] <Gfoley4> it only works for users
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[17:54] <Gfoley4> you have to format it
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[17:54] <Ironholds> Gfoley4: ahh
[17:54] <Ironholds> jorm: you look more cheerful than I remember
[17:55] <Gfoley4> You can also get logs by going to history and clicking "View logs for this page" in the upper-left.
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[17:58] <Ironholds> jorm: dang. Pissed I missed this.
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[17:59] <jorm> i wish that the questioners had mics.
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[18:10] <Ironholds> jorm: nice CJ channelling :P
[18:10] <jorm> CJ channelling?
[18:10] <Ironholds> "this is the first line of my obituary"
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[18:11] <Ironholds> (seriously, *great* presentation)
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[18:17] <juboubuntu> jorm: re: your slides: projects have an end / deadline. Wikipedia is therefore an effort, not a project
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[18:17] <jorm> we refer to them as the Projects, though, so I was using that nomenclature.
[18:18] <juboubuntu> jorm: is there an end / deadline to finish wikipedia ? No, it keeps on accumulating new infos as things happen. clearly != project
[18:19] <jorm> well. i'm not going to argue semantics.
[18:19] <juboubuntu> Wikipedia will never be finished
[18:19] <juboubuntu> Always something going on that needs to be added
[18:19] <Ironholds> juboubuntu: sure, but the terminology used by everyone is "project"
[18:19] <Ironholds> to distinguish it from the "movement", which covers all the projects, and is indefinite
[18:19] <juboubuntu> Ironholds: then they are just plain wrong. Ask any project manager / other informed person
[18:20] <Ironholds> juboubuntu: individual projects can and are shut down relatively regularly
[18:20] <Ironholds> the projects as a whole can therefore not be declared to be individually infinite
[18:21] <SteveWork> Ironholds: you got a sec?
[18:21] <SteveWork> how technical are you?
[18:21] <Ironholds> SteveWork: not at all
[18:21] <Ironholds> that's why I work for the tech department
[18:21] <Ironholds> (that is actually not sarcasm
[18:21] <Ironholds> I speak contributor-ese, not, say, Haskel :p
[18:22] <SteveWork> I'm trying to figure out if something is technically possible to do.
[18:22] <Ironholds> again, me no speaky techy.
[18:22] <Ironholds> you could try jorm, if he's still around?
[18:23] <jorm> sup?
[18:23] <SteveWork> Hey
[18:23] <SteveWork> I'm trying to do something a bit tricky
[18:23] <SteveWork> There's been discussion about lack of eyes on dispute resolution
[18:24] <SteveWork> so i've had a thought of creating a somewhat SPI style page that'd list the other DR pages
[18:24] <SteveWork> eg RSN, MedCab, 3O etc.
[18:24] <SteveWork> wondering if there's a way to do a sort of thread preview
[18:24] <Ironholds> SteveWork: oh wait, you meant tech as in "internal wikimarkup"?
[18:24] <Ironholds> ahh
[18:24] <Ironholds> yeah, that's jorm's to answer. I'm not touching it :P
[18:24] <jorm> i'm not so big on internal wiki markup, no.
[18:24] <jorm> though maybe you could do something with transclusions.
[18:24] <SteveWork> eg, if theres a way to list maybe the first paragraph of each dispute section and provide a link to the full discussion?
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[18:27] <SteveWork> any ideas..
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[18:29] <Ironholds> SteveWork: afraid not :(
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[18:29] <SteveWork> aw..
[18:29] <SteveWork> if its done badly
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[18:30] <SteveWork> not even a supercomputer will load the page :P
[18:31] <SteveWork> blast...
[18:33] <Lubaf> "Offering to sexually gratify a robot and a demon is not within my comfort zone. MODOK must go now..."
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[18:42] <juboubuntu> Go Kväll jim
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[18:44] <juboubuntu> there was a court order that a Finnish interweb operator stop giving people access to Swedish site "Pirate Bay" on the pain of 100,000€
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[18:45] <juboubuntu> The founders/operators of Pirate Bay were court ordered in Sweden to pay 34 million SEK for copyright violations
[18:46] <juboubuntu> either side of the bay the officials do not approve of this "Pirate Bay"
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[18:46] <OwlSecretary> Hai
[18:46] <juboubuntu> hai-o-hai
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[18:46] <OwlSecretary> ohai.
[18:46] <OwlSecretary> lol.
[18:47] <OwlSecretary> Helllo
[18:47] <OwlSecretary> Is it empty :O
[18:47] <OwlSecretary> D:
[18:47] <OwlSecretary> Jubo
[18:47] <juboubuntu> It's half full
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[18:47] <OwlSecretary> Is u using Ubuntu?
[18:47] <OwlSecretary> :O
[18:47] <Ironholds> a'ight, I've now been at work for 16 hours. I'm going to sleep. jorm, I'll have an answer to that question you posed me tomorrow morning - all this survey stuff has distracted me, I'm afraid.
[18:47] <juboubuntu> Xubuntu to be precise
[18:47] <juboubuntu> but same code base mostly
[18:47] <OwlSecretary> Me sees
[18:48] <OwlSecretary> lol.
[18:48] <Ironholds> juboubuntu: except without the clusterfuck of a Unity interface
�06[18:48] * Ironholds uses xubuntu too
[18:48] <OwlSecretary> Ubuntu FTW.
[18:48] <OwlSecretary> Onieric Was RELEASED, and GNOME 3 compatible!
[18:48] <Ironholds> anyway, I need to fall over and not move for a while. bye all.
[18:48] <juboubuntu> "humanity towards others" they say it means
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[18:49] <juboubuntu> I find this to be buggy but the bang for the buck is still excellent ;)
[18:51] <Earwig> Xubuntu! yay!
[18:51] <juboubuntu> I can't get Compiz to work properly :( ... No of what the Mapple part of the world calls Exposé
[18:53] <Earwig> I like the insta-transitions between workspaces
[18:53] <Earwig> also, I thought Exposé died with Lion?
[18:53] <juboubuntu> Earwig: rotating the display plane, triangle or square you mean ?=
[18:54] <jorm> here.  have a dose of bad-ass:
[18:54] <Earwig> juboubuntu: er, not sure?
[18:55] <juboubuntu> I can't get Compiz so that it draws borders on windows. They tell me I need to install a window decorator. I try every window decorator I can find and nothing happens
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[18:56] <Earwig> oh, that's weird, why are you using Compiz on Xfce?
[18:57] <juboubuntu> Eye-candy and full screen task switcher
[18:57] <Earwig> then why are you using Xfce? :P
[18:59] <OwlSecretary> Ubuntu FTWWWWIIIEEE
[18:59] <juboubuntu> Earwig: they don't make Linuxen with Compiz as default compositing / window maker ( ok, except Linux Mint )
[19:00] <Earwig> uh
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[19:01] <Earwig> doesn't regular Ubuntu use Compiz?
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[19:02] <juboubuntu> Earwig: I think it uses Gnome3
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[19:02] <Earwig> that's not a window manager, that's a desktop environment
[19:02] <Earwig> for example
[19:03] <Earwig> Xfce is a desktop environment, which uses a window manager called "Xfwm"
[19:03] <juboubuntu> these things are wildly confusing to me
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[19:03] <Earwig> it is very confusing, isn't it :P
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[19:03] <Gfoley4> Earwig: Expose was merged into "Mission Control" in Lion.
[19:03] <Earwig> Gfoley4: twas what I thought
[19:03] <Earwig> haven't gotten around to trying that yet (sill on crappy 10.5)
[19:03] <Gfoley4> it basically works the same if you change in preferences.
[19:03] <Earwig> *still
[19:04] <juboubuntu> Earwig: I just noticed that the latest, onorgeic osomething ( 11.10 ) has 3.0.0 kernel version..
[19:04] <Earwig> yeahg
[19:04] <Earwig> *yeah
[19:05] <juboubuntu> I didn't even know 3.0 has been released..
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[19:05] <Earwig> the new version numbering isn't significant; nothing major has happened
[19:05] <Earwig> Linux is, coincidentally, 20 years old
[19:06] <Earwig> oh I see
[19:06] <Earwig> Gnome's WM used to be Metacity
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[19:07] <juboubuntu> I've been using Linux since 1996 at uni and on-and-off since 1998 at home ( I had a fling with OS X starting in 2002 untill I decided it and it's maker suck ass )
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[19:08] <Earwig> OS X is awesome, don't diss Apple :(
[19:08] <Gfoley4> *its
[19:09] <Gfoley4> Earwig: :D
[19:11] <juboubuntu> Earwig: they pay under 300€ / mnth for 60hr weeks at Foxconn for the worst earners to assemble iPad 2s
[19:12] <juboubuntu> that's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy unreasonably low wage
[19:12] <OffToHades> OSX is awesome, yes. If you have a mac, it makes it appear faster.  Appearances can be deceptive...
[19:12] <juboubuntu> OffToHades: I hope I could have OS X on non-mapple hw
[19:12] <OwlSecretary> + Hackintoshes with i7 an that good shit are faster than the high quality MACS>
[19:12] <OwlSecretary> Hackintosh LOL
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[19:14] <Earwig> "it makes it appear faster"
[19:14] <Earwig> what does that even mean?
[19:14] <juboubuntu> It warps your perception of time ?
[19:15] <Earwig> erm...
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[19:15] <WilliamH_UK> don't forget that Apple's factories are surrounded with nets
[19:16] <WilliamH_UK> to stop workers from killing themselves
[19:17] <juboubuntu> there is something seriously wrong with China..
[19:17] <Earwig> juboubuntu: who makes your hardware?
[19:17] <juboubuntu> Earwig: Koreans
[19:18] <Earwig> all of it?
[19:18] <juboubuntu> I mean someone taints baby milk formula with melanin to make the protein level seem higher then it is
[19:18] <juboubuntu> They get caught, public outcry and they are _executed_
[19:18] <juboubuntu> few month passes and someone does the same exact thing again
[19:19] <juboubuntu> in what way did the capital punishment help ??
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[19:20] <juboubuntu> I mean if it's know that you get killed dead for poisoning babies that that would put people off of poisoning babies, but no...
[19:20] <juboubuntu> ... not at least in China
[19:21] <harej> This is a great discussion to randomly join in on.
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[19:22] <Earwig> harej: just random ranting against Apple, nothing out of the ordinary...
[19:22] <WilliamH_UK> juboubuntu - interesting point
[19:23] <OwlSecretary> mm
[19:23] <OwlSecretary> Cathay = Old name for CHINA
[19:26] <SteveWork> fml...
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[19:34] <TheCavalry> "An IranAir flight from Moscow lands safely in Tehran despite lacking a front landing gear." - moral of the story, don't fly iran air
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[19:36] <SteveWork> TheCavalry: herro can you close :P
[19:36] <WilliamH_UK> why did it lack gear
[19:37] <WilliamH_UK> did they fail to drop/
[19:37] <SteveWork> its a pretty clear delete
[19:37] <TheCavalry> WilliamH_UK: I believe so
[19:37] <SteveWork> dunno why its still there..
[19:37] <SteveWork> or WilliamH_UK :P
[19:37] <juboubuntu> I once flied with Aeroflot, the food was so bad it cannot be properly described without wildly waving in the air with hands
[19:37] <SigmaWP> Blasphemy!
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[19:39] <juboubuntu> surprisingly we arrived safely..
[19:39] <SigmaWP> Of course, it was a Soviet Government-run organisation
[19:40] <WilliamH_UK> BA/Thomson/EasyJet/Ryanair
[19:40] <BarkingFish> why does it surprise you, juboubuntu?
[19:40] <WilliamH_UK> that's all I've done
[19:40] <WilliamH_UK> I would say easyjet have been the best
[19:40] <TheCavalry> SteveWork: I have enough drama at the moment so unfortunately i cannot close that AfD - but let me know if it hangs around much longer
[19:40] <WilliamH_UK> their in flight crew are more inclined to turn up than BAs
[19:40] <BarkingFish> BA should be renamed to CBA.
[19:41] <WilliamH_UK> heh
[19:41] <SigmaWP> WilliamH_UK: Clean some attack pages please
[19:41] <BarkingFish> they're about as useless as airlines come.  I'd rather glue wings to my back and enter the birdman contest than fly with them again. I only did it once, and that was enough, WilliamH_UK
[19:42] <SigmaWP> How about
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[19:42] <WilliamH_UK> BarkingFish I kind of thought that when I left heathrow without my luggage after 17 hours waiting for it
[19:42] <WilliamH_UK> but the real problem there is the airport authority's complete failure to deal with 2.5 inches of snow
[19:42] <SigmaWP> WilliamH_UK: Follow the link
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[19:42] <WilliamH_UK> that's not really BA's fault
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[19:43] <BarkingFish> WilliamH_UK, BAA should take some lessons from Icelandic airports.  Snow is not a problem unless it's more than 3 feet deep and the ploughs are busy.
[19:43] <BarkingFish> Other than that, business is business, regardless of the weather.
[19:44] <WilliamH_UK> SigmaWP if you think I'm going to delete an entire user's pages based on your bidding and whim without being invited to even view one of the pages in question, you are severely mistaken
[19:44] <SigmaWP> Yay
[19:44] <SigmaWP> One page
[19:44] <SigmaWP> 99.9% SPA
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[19:44] <SigmaWP> Ks0stm: Do you want to clean C:SD?
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[19:47] <BarkingFish> In all the time I worked at Keflavik, we only lost 2 days business, and that was because the snow was so deep, it blocked the door to the tower.  We shut for two days out of 1095, WilliamH_UK - i doubt there's a british airport with the same track record, or even close to it.
[19:47] <WilliamH_UK> ...or snow
[19:47] <WilliamH_UK> but yes
[19:47] <WilliamH_UK> fair point
[19:48] <BarkingFish> You'd think with the amount of snow you get here, compared to other countries, you could cope with it. Or at least I'd assumed you could.
[19:50] <BarkingFish> But, no. First 6in of snow, buses stop, trains get delayed, flights get delayed, basically the entire public transport network in the UK goes to buggery and falls apart like a badly made soft toy.
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[19:55] <TheCavalry> the problem, BarkingFish, is the ''type'' of snow - it's wet and heavy, and thaws in the day then refreezes overnight
[19:55] <TheCavalry> there's never enough to plough, but too much to grit
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[19:58] <BarkingFish> TheCavalry, The way out of that is to do what we wound up doing at Keflavik - the runways used to be treated about 6am with an antifreeze spray - any snow which fell during the day, wouldn't refreeze on the tarmac once it'd melted.
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[19:58] <BarkingFish> surface water used to be taken off the runways throughout the day so it wasn't slick on landing
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[19:59] <BarkingFish> it was a sod if it'd snowed overnight, they had to be cleared first, then sprayed before anymore fell
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[20:01] <TheCavalry> there's also an interesting thing i picked up about forecasting
[20:01] <TheCavalry> in the uk, it's very difficult to tell when the winter snows will hit
[20:01] <TheCavalry> in the US and elsewhere, they can usually tell down to within a couple of days
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[20:02] <TheCavalry> with railways, ice hangs off the overhead catenarys
[20:03] <TheCavalry> and occasionally builds up enough to pull the wires down
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[20:03] <TheCavalry> so you need to run electric trains every half hour or so, even if they'e just empty trains
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[20:04] <TheCavalry> in the south, the ice stops electricity flowing from the 750v third rail system into the train, so again, you need to run trains more often than maintenance people would like - and the ice freezes up point motors, so points fail more often
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[20:04] <TheCavalry> it's extremely interesting (if you like trains)
[20:05] <Logan_> Gfol4.
[20:05] <Logan_> *Gfoley4.
[20:05] <Logan_> ^
[20:05] <BarkingFish> TheCavalry, sorry, I missed most of that, I fell off the network.
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[20:06] <TheCavalry> i think most people fell off the network, it was quite dull
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[20:06] <TheCavalry> I will not repeat it unless you like trains
[20:06] <Logan_> Gfoley4 likes trains.
[20:06] <Logan_> fwiw
[20:07] <BarkingFish> I'm interested in trains, TheCavalry - I photograph and video whatever I can get hold of :)
[20:07] <BarkingFish> I am what people (unkindly) refer to as an "anorak"
[20:07] <Gfoley4> So you run trains in the night even though there are no passengers just to keep off the ice?
[20:08] <TheCavalry> usually you'll just run a light engine or some empty stock trains or something
[20:08] <Gfoley4> they do that in the states, too.
[20:08] <TheCavalry> i think they have de-icing systems but as i recall, they are a bit rubbish
[20:09] <TheCavalry> do you have overhead wires in the states?
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[20:09] <Gfoley4> On light rail, yes.
[20:09] <Gfoley4> light rail = trams and such.
[20:09] <Gfoley4> most 'heavy rail' (e.g. subways) run on a third rail next to the track.
[20:10] <Gfoley4> Actually, we have one (!) high-speed line that is powered by overhead wires.
[20:11] <WilliamH_UK> we have one highspeed line
[20:11] <WilliamH_UK> it runs between london and dover ¬_¬
[20:12] <Gfoley4> but your 'regular' trains go faster, right?
[20:13] <TheCavalry> they do about 125 mph, tops
[20:13] <Gfoley4> on high speed or on 'regular' lines?
[20:14] <TheCavalry> 'regular' express lines do 100 to 125 mph
[20:14] <Gfoley4> :(
[20:14] <juboubuntu> zzzleep
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[20:14] <Gfoley4> we can only go 79 mph on the highest-quality track
[20:14] <Gfoley4> (not electrified)
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[20:15] <TheCavalry> :(
[20:15] <Gfoley4> You can only go faster with some expensive signally system.
[20:15] <WilliamH_UK> by highspeed i mean the ones that go more than 125mph
[20:15] <WilliamH_UK> highspeed per continental standards
[20:15] <WilliamH_UK> and that's the rail link between London and the channel tunnel
[20:16] <TheCavalry> 186mph is the peed for that one
[20:16] <Gfoley4> yeah, the on rail line I know about in England.
[20:16] <Gfoley4> *one
[20:16] <WilliamH_UK> Virgin's Pendolino trains can do 140mph but are limited to 125mph per signalling limitations
[20:16] <WilliamH_UK> 140mph+
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[20:16] <TheCavalry> is a nice picture
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[20:17] <Gfoley4>
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[20:20] <TheCavalry> :(
[20:22] <WilliamH_UK> TheCavalry i believe the western mainline will be electrified at some point?
[20:22] <WilliamH_UK> Paddington westwards I mean
[20:23] <TheCavalry> the the old GW one, to bristol?
[20:23] <WilliamH_UK> yep
[20:23] <WilliamH_UK> and beyond
[20:23] <TheCavalry> "at some point" yes, i think so
[20:23] <Gfoley4> through Reading?
[20:23] <WilliamH_UK> yup
[20:23] <SteveWork> hey TheCavalry
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[20:23] <WilliamH_UK> all of them stop at Reading
[20:23] <WilliamH_UK> always
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[20:24] <TheCavalry> hi steve
[20:24] <Gfoley4> We stayed on Reading with friends when we went to England
[20:24] <WilliamH_UK> occasionally stopping at Slough
[20:24] <Gfoley4> *in
[20:24] <WilliamH_UK> I loathe what they did with the Circle line, breaking it at Edgware Road
[20:25] <WilliamH_UK> wouldn't mind a quid for every confused tourist I've helped there
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[20:25] <WilliamH_UK> TheCavalry i wait with baited breath
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[20:25] <TheCavalry> when it was a circle, there was uneven wear on the train's tyres because they turned in one direction all day
[20:26] <TheCavalry> so every day, one train would go via aldgate east, to turn round
[20:26] <WilliamH_UK> ah yes
[20:26] <TheCavalry> that is the end of my circle line facts
[20:26] <Gfoley4> heh
[20:27] <WilliamH_UK> there's also that one about each train having to wait
[20:27] <WilliamH_UK> I can't remember the ins and outs exactly
[20:27] <WilliamH_UK> but each one *had* to wait a certain amount of time
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[20:29] <TheCavalry> is this on the circle line?
[20:30] <TheCavalry> I know they have to do it on the northern line, in the haunted tunnel
[20:30] <WilliamH_UK> yeah, circle
[20:30] <WilliamH_UK> which is the haunted tunnel
[20:31] <WilliamH_UK> ?
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[20:32] <TheCavalry> kennington loop
[20:32] <TheCavalry> pnyd knows all about it
[20:32] <TheCavalry> its something to do with ultrasound
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[20:33] <TheCavalry> i like trains and she likes ghosts, so haunted trains are something we talk about as a couple.
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[20:36] <TheCavalry> Further Comments: All passengers disembark at Kennington and the carriages are checked just prior to trains turning in the loop. However, as the train drivers sit waiting in the dark loop tunnel, at least two have reported hearing the connecting carriage doors open and close as if someone is moving from the rear of the train towards the driving compartment.
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[20:37] <WilliamH_UK> heh
[20:37] <WilliamH_UK> I rather enjoyed the train between Euston and Manchester
[20:37] <SigmaWP_> A strange trend I've noticed is that most articles with Indian titles have an excessive usage of CAPS on random words
[20:37] <WilliamH_UK> table window seat, direction of travel
[20:37] <WilliamH_UK> wasn't very busy
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[20:37] <SigmaWP> SigmaWP: Bye
[20:37] <SigmaWP> Hmph
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[20:46] <SigmaWP> Damn it
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[21:01] <SteveWork> slakr, do you run AIV helper bot?
[21:01] <SigmaWP> That was H, I think
[21:02] <TParis> Peter-C, you there?
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[21:03] <SteveWork> TParis: can you take a look at AIV?
[21:04] <TParis> ok
[21:04] <TParis> Just the backlog or a particular user?
[21:04] <SigmaWP> TParis: When you're done can you clean out CAT:CSD?
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[21:04] <TParis> Ohh I guess, I'll just turn off my battlefield 3...
[21:05] <SigmaWP> derpyfoo: :D
[21:05] <SigMobile> derpyfoo: :D
[21:05] <derpyfoo> SigMobile: :D
[21:05] <derpyfoo> SigmaWP: :D
[21:05] <derpyfoo> Peter-C: :(
[21:06] <LL2|JedIRC> Derpyfoo:
[21:06] <LL2|JedIRC> Logan_:
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[21:06] <derpyfoo> LL2|JedIRC: <3
[21:06] <Logan_> Yes?
[21:06] <derpyfoo> Logan_: <3
[21:06] <LL2|JedIRC> Lol
[21:06] <Logan_> Hi derpyfoo.
[21:06] <LL2|JedIRC> Just messing around
[21:06] <Logan_> Not in the least bit surprised.
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[21:06] <TParis> Steve - is it a particular user or the whole log?
[21:07] <Dragonfly6-7> [[California Dream Week]]  - what the fuck?
[21:07] <SigMobile> Dragonfly6-7: Could you clean out CAT:CSD?
[21:07] <Dragonfly6-7> who sees notability  - or comprehensibility - there?
[21:07] <Dragonfly6-7> SigMobile - sorry, no
[21:07] <SigMobile> Aww
[21:07] <Dragonfly6-7> bit busy
[21:08] <Logan_> Dragonfly6-7: Hi.
[21:08] <Dragonfly6-7> ah, there you are
[21:08] <LL2|JedIRC> Drangonfly6-7: would you do it for Fluffernutter?
[21:08] <SigMobile>
[21:08] <SigMobile> for those people who use the inferior regular-server
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[21:09] <SigMobile> Using TW.
[21:09] <LL2|JedIRC> SigMobile: you mean the better regular server
[21:09] <SigMobile> No.
[21:09] <SteveWork> admin can someonen block
[21:09] <SteveWork> uh, !admin
[21:09] <TParis> Yes?
[21:09] <SigMobile> !madmen See above
[21:09] <Logan_> You know, you could use [[WP:AIV]].
[21:10] <TParis> done
[21:10] <SteveWork> Logan_: its too rapid for AIV :P
[21:10] <SteveWork> thnx
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[21:13] <Gfoley4> chess time!@
[21:13] <Gfoley4> :D
[21:13] <SigMobile> Damn it
�06[21:13] * SigMobile prods Gfoley4 and asks for an opinion on
[21:14] <Gfoley4> opinion.
[21:14] <Gfoley4> oh, right.
[21:14] <SteveWork> TParis: fyi...
�06[21:14] * derpyfoo throw banana creme pies at Peter-C's face.
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[21:14] <SteveWork> that template you're using at AIV, I created ^_^
[21:14] <Gfoley4> A3?
[21:15] <SigMobile> I can't decide
[21:15] <SigMobile> But I can say that he was at ANI before, though I can't see his deleted contribs
[21:15] <Peter-C> Gfoley4 - GTFO
[21:15] <Peter-C> I just played BF3 and killed some fuckers
[21:15] <Addihockey10> Gfoley4: Is your ass kneadable?
[21:15] <Peter-C> It was fun
[21:15] <Gfoley4> I played online chess and killed some fuckers
[21:16] <Gfoley4> Peter-C: why not?
[21:16] <TParis> Alright, AIV is done, what's next?  CSD?
[21:16] <TParis> Which one?  I used several.
[21:16] <LL2|JedIRC> can someone protect [[Tea Party protests]]?
[21:16] <LL2|JedIRC> Persistent sockpuppetry
[21:16] <TParis> Peter-C...I am a LC 3 stars, how about you
[21:17] <TParis> Lance Corporal
[21:17] <SigMobile> TParis:
[21:17] <Peter-C> TParis - In BF3!?
[21:17] <TParis> yup
[21:17] <Peter-C> Damn! I am still level 2, due to lack of time to play.
[21:18] <Peter-C>
[21:18] <LL2|JedIRC> Same for [[Tea Party Caucus]]
[21:18] <SteveWork> TParis: {{T:AIV}}
[21:18] <Peter-C> Gfoley4 - do you use Chess Maniac/
[21:18] <SteveWork> can someone move this betacommand/delta proposed tasks to a subpage of WPR
[21:18] <SteveWork> VPR
[21:19] <LL2|JedIRC> Gfoley4: can you protect [[Tea Party Caucus]] and [[Tea Party protests]]? Persistent sockpuppetry
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[21:19] <Peter-C> Holy cow! Chess Maniac is getting a coding makeover it should have 2 years ago!
[21:19] <Peter-C> This is a GREAT day!
[21:19] <TParis>
[21:20] <Addihockey10> I think that all chess players can stick the most painful object (obviously NOT the pawn) up their ass.
[21:20] <TParis> my battlelog doesnt work so I am guessing that is my url
[21:20] <Gfoley4> Peter-C: I'm new to the online chess biz. I've only used
[21:20] <Gfoley4> LL2|JedIRC: RFPP is that away
[21:20] <TParis> search for gamertag TParis00ap and that's me
[21:20] <SigMobile> TParis: You left the user's redirects
[21:21] <TParis> I'm still working on it
[21:21] <SigMobile> Thanks
[21:21] <TParis> I keep closing his contribs by accident
[21:21] <Peter-C> Gfoley4 - I have been using Chess Maniac on and off for the past 7 years
[21:21] <Gfoley4> nice
[21:21] <Peter-C> It is just that damn good
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[21:21] <Gfoley4> I guess you have senority
[21:21] <Gfoley4> by chance, is their an iPhone app?
[21:22] <Gfoley4> *there
[21:22] <Gfoley4> b/c my laptop only has an hour of battery
[21:22] <Peter-C> Oh :(
[21:22] <Peter-C> Nope, no iPhone app
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[21:22] <Peter-C> This thing is SO classic
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[21:22] <Peter-C> I can get a Chess.Com account if you wish :3
[21:22] <TParis> SteveWork - is there anything particular in CSD you want me to clear or just the log in general?
[21:23] <SteveWork> nah just the log :P
[21:23] <TParis> Your seriously killing my BF3 time right now :P
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[21:23] <SteveWork> heh well if/when I pass an RFA I won't ask you anymore :P
[21:23] <Peter-C> Gfoley4 - what is your player name?
[21:24] <Peter-C> TParis - add me!
[21:24] <Peter-C> I might play you later
[21:24] <Peter-C> Or spam my TS to you!
[21:25] <SteveWork> anything here?
[21:26] <SteveWork> Ugh i fucking hate this error message :P
[21:26] <Gfoley4> Peter-C: on
[21:26] <Gfoley4> gfoley4
[21:26] <SigMobile> So transparent
�06[21:27] * SigmaWP parks the SigMobile
[21:27] <TParis> Peter-C - I'm clearing CSD logs right now, but you can add me.  TParis00ap
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[21:27] <TParis> Wow, just went through the CSD G11 log and out of 4 articles, I didnt delete a single one.  Some folks need to learn that G11 must be entirely promotional.
[21:28] <TParis> Hope none of you tagged those
[21:28] <Gfoley4> Peter-C: My latest video game system is a Nintendo Gamecube (or if you count a PSP)
[21:28] <Peter-C> Gfoley4 - invited
[21:28] <Peter-C> I has a PSP, I OWNED at SOCOM: Fireteam Bravo 2
[21:29] <Gfoley4> challengeaccepted.jpg
[21:29] <SteveWork> is an a7
[21:29] <SigmaWP> TParis: Fortunately none of my recent tags were G11
[21:31] <SigmaWP> Duh
[21:31] <Gfoley4> Peter-C: move!
[21:31] <Peter-C> I DID
[21:31] <Peter-C> >:(
[21:31] <SteveWork> i'm not really good with a7
[21:32] <Peter-C> TParis - Not found :(
[21:32] <SigmaWP> When a page contains "Youtube"it adds +500 to my A7-filter-checker
�06[21:32] * Peter-C kicks battlelog
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[21:32] <Gfoley4> ok
[21:33] <Logan_> ok
[21:33] <LL2|JedIRC> ok
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[21:33] <Peter-C> ok
�06[21:33] * SigmaWP kicks a backlog
�06[21:34] * LL2|JedIRC kicks SigmaWP...wanna guess where?
[21:34] <Peter-C> The backlog is backlogged
[21:34] <Peter-C> Anyone remember that?
[21:34] <Peter-C> "This is not a funny thing guys! Backlog is backlogged." - "No, you are right, this is not funny, this is hilarious"
[21:34] <TParis> Steve - A7....if they say they use the words "known for", "important", "award", "largest", "international" than it is probably not an A7
[21:34] <SteveWork> TParis: RFPP backlogged too :P
[21:34] <TParis> Just a few key words
[21:35] <TParis> I've worked enough backlogs tonight, I'm gonna play some BF3 :P
[21:35] <SteveWork> really?
[21:35] <SteveWork> MOARRR
[21:35] <SteveWork> is there a decent guide on A7 anywhere?
[21:35] <TParis> Yeah
[21:35] <SigmaWP> TParis: "International Youtuber".
[21:35] <TParis> WP:WIHSD
[21:35] <SigmaWP> SteveWork: WP:FIELD
[21:35] <LL2|JedIRC> TParis: get your ass to working on those backlogs NOW!
[21:35] <TParis> but my ass is sore
[21:35] <SigmaWP> I use WP:FIELD, and when you see my accuracy, you know it has to be right
[21:35] <SteveWork> Oh thank you
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[21:36] <LL2|JedIRC> TParis: then why are you sitting?
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[21:36] <SteveWork> thanks very much SigmaWP :)
[21:36] <SigmaWP> :)
[21:36] <Pilif12p> TParis has butthurt?
[21:37] <Peter-C> Gfoley4 - you whore, stop trying to get my knight
[21:38] <SteveWork> lol butthurt
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[21:39] <LL2|JedIRC> Omg nothing
[21:40] <SigmaWP> ...?
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[21:40] <LL2|JedIRC> Peter-C: what are you playing?
[21:41] <Gfoley4> Peter-C: I got it :D
[21:41] <Gfoley4> LL2|JedIRC: online chess with me.
[21:41] <LL2|JedIRC> Oh
[21:41] <Peter-C> Gfoley4 - I know, I wanted to end the damn standoff and geta  pawn out of it :P
[21:41] <LL2|JedIRC> GO GFOLEY4
[21:42] <SigmaWP> Gfoley4: Peter-C Any way we can watch?
[21:42] <Gfoley4> Peter-C: haha
[21:42] <TParis> There, CSD isnt backlogged anymore
[21:42] <Gfoley4> I don't think so, SigmaWP.
[21:42] <TParis> BF3 time :D
�06[21:42] * Peter-C gives Dragonfly6-7 a "I <3 Peter-C's chess"
[21:42] <Gfoley4> does work for you?
[21:42] <SteveWork> TParis: orly
[21:42] <Peter-C> TParis wait
[21:42] <SigmaWP> TParis: How about making the meter on my talk page blue?
[21:42] <Peter-C> Add this - Irun0ngames
[21:42] <SigmaWP> Gfoley4: Yep
[21:42] <LL2|JedIRC> TParis: you sure?
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�06[21:43] * LL2|JedIRC points to the unclean spot
[21:43] <Gfoley4> SigmaWP: cool.
[21:43] <LL2|JedIRC> Ohai reedy
[21:44] <TParis> Peter-C: You're on XBox?
[21:44] <Peter-C> Oh, xBox!
[21:44] <Peter-C> No, I do it on PC like a man
[21:44] <Peter-C> That explains why I can't find you
[21:44] <TParis> I played all the other battlefields on PC
[21:44] <Gfoley4> Peter-C: bahaha
[21:44] <TParis> But starting with Bad Company 2 I went XBox
[21:44] <Gfoley4> *evil laugh*
[21:45] <Peter-C> TParis - Weirdo!
�06[21:45] * LL2|JedIRC laughs evilly with Gfoley4
[21:45] <Peter-C> Is theire any difference in graphics?
[21:45] <TParis> Not really
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[21:46] <Peter-C> TParis - PC is weird because of the damn new web launcher
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[21:46] <SigmaWP> Ahh!
[21:47] <SigmaWP> Oh, he just got here
�06[21:47] * SigmaWP calms down
[21:47] <SigmaWP> Peter-C: Do you have to refresh?
[21:47] <SteveWork> lol spammy
[21:48] <Dragonfly6-7> hey, julian!
[21:48] <Peter-C> SigmaWP - ?
[21:48] <Peter-C> In chess or in BF3? :P
[21:48] <SigmaWP> chess of course
[21:48] <Peter-C> No
[21:48] <SigmaWP> Dragonfly6-7: He's dead
[21:48] <SigmaWP> Then in that case, Gfoley4 Peter-C hurry up
[21:49] <Gfoley4> SigmaWP: er, you do.
[21:49] <Gfoley4> if you're watching you do. Not playing.
[21:49] <SigmaWP> Ah
[21:49] <SigmaWP> OK
[21:51] <Peter-C> Gfoley4 - I suck! :d
[21:51] <Peter-C> I haven't played chess in forever! :D
[21:51] <SteveWork> is actually no context isn't it SigmaWP?
[21:51] <SigmaWP> SteveWork: 10 minute rule
[21:52] <Gfoley4> :D
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[21:53] <Peter-C> D:
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�06[21:54] * Mitchazenia throws a Rook at Peter-C
[21:54] <Peter-C> :(
�06[21:55] * Peter-C throws Gfoley4 at Mitchazenia
[21:55] <Mitchazenia> Peter, you couldn't lift him
[21:56] <SigmaWP> ^
[21:56] <Mitchazenia> You have no muscle on those bones
[21:56] <SteveWork> hello Mitchazenia
[21:56] <Mitchazenia> Then again, neither does anyone in your town
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[21:57] <Peter-C> Mitchazenia - I can lift 150lbs, thank you
[21:57] <Peter-C> For how long.... no comment
[21:57] <Mitchazenia> [citation needed]
[21:58] <Mitchazenia> Couldn't lift my fat body off the ground
[21:58] <Mitchazenia> Hell my sister can't, and she can bench over 200 on a normal basis
[21:59] <Peter-C> O_o
[21:59] <SigmaWP> Peter-C: I wonder if i can bea you
[21:59] <Mitchazenia> What, women can't bench 200 lbs?
�06[21:59] * SigmaWP hasn't played chess for years
[22:00] <Peter-C> You can, do not worry
[22:00] <Peter-C> Mitchazenia - I was shocked about the fact you are over 200lbs ._.
[22:00] <Mitchazenia> ??
[22:00] <Mitchazenia> I've been over 200 lbs since maybe 13
[22:00] <Mitchazenia> I'm 250 atm
[22:00] <Gfoley4> SigmaWP: no chess in Soviet Russia?
[22:01] <SigmaWP> Kasparov...
[22:01] <Mitchazenia> SigmaWP is from Russia?
[22:01] <Gfoley4> I don
[22:01] <Gfoley4> 't think so, just <3 them
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�06[22:01] * Peter-C bows down to Ironholds
�06[22:02] * Mitchazenia shaves Peter's head in the process
[22:02] <Ironholds> hey, Peter-C
[22:02] <Ironholds> hey Mitchazenia
[22:02] <SigmaWP> Hello Ironholds
[22:02] <Ironholds> SigmaWP!
[22:02] <Ironholds> remind me - it was you who wrote coal balls, right?
[22:02] <Peter-C> Three more days until I get a cell phone!!! :D
�06[22:02] * Peter-C glomps Gfoley4
[22:02] <SigmaWP> Yes
[22:02] <SigmaWP> :D
Session Close: Wed Oct 26 22:02:50 2011