User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2011-05-02

Note: This log is a segment of User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2011-05

May 02 00:00:16 <sonia>	BarkingFish: either way, he ain't, so :P
May 02 00:00:27 <Fluff|away>	wait, what?
May 02 00:03:35 <Mono>	There has to be a less pathetic channel than this, but it's probably called #wikipedia-en-pathetic
May 02 00:07:27 <Headbomb|Laptop>	better than #wikipedia-em-pathetic
May 02 00:07:33 <Waithamai>	cu
May 02 00:07:36 *	Waithamai (~Waithamai@wikipedia/Waithamai) has left #wikipedia-en ("life was so simple then, we were so innocent; it will stay with us forever, a nightmare to remember.")
May 02 00:08:38 <Mono>	hey Sven_Manguard
May 02 00:10:11 <geniice>	Mono actualy it's #wikipedia-en-admins it's very refined
May 02 00:10:37 <slakr>	except when it's in cybersex mode
May 02 00:10:51 <Sven_Manguard>	The most patheic channel in the family is #wikipedia-en-help
May 02 00:10:57 <Gfoley4>	Mono: no that's #wikipedia
May 02 00:11:01 <Gfoley4>	no one ever talks
May 02 00:11:09 <Sven_Manguard>	No, the silnece is good
May 02 00:11:21 <Sven_Manguard>	in -help people beyond saving come in and depress you
May 02 00:11:28 *	sonia smiles
May 02 00:11:29 <Gfoley4>	ha
May 02 00:11:36 *	Joe|Busy has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
May 02 00:12:07 <Sven_Manguard>	"hi, why did that article on my band get deleted? My mom wrote it up on her blog"
May 02 00:14:06 *	Tanvir has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
May 02 00:14:20 <slakr>	"no, being 12 and winning your middle school's talent competition doesn't mean you get an encyclopedia article."
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May 02 00:14:26 <MauchoEagle>	you know the patheticism of a channel is only because of the pathetic user on it
May 02 00:14:40 <sonia>	slakr: actually got one like that OSed the other day
May 02 00:15:01 <slakr>	sonia: say it ain't so!
May 02 00:15:20 <slakr>	how will the world function without that valuable chunk of knowledge
May 02 00:15:30 <slakr>	:P
May 02 00:16:16 <sonia>	:P
May 02 00:16:33 <MauchoEagle>	question does anyone think it is degrading to post the userrights that you have on your userpage
May 02 00:16:35 <MauchoEagle>	?
May 02 00:16:50 <MauchoEagle>	I mean the user rights you have on every wiki
May 02 00:17:13 <Andrevan>	degrading?
May 02 00:17:28 <slakr>	MauchoEagle's been trolling about user pages for a while
May 02 00:17:35 *	DeltaQuad (~DeltaQuad@wikipedia/DeltaQuad) has joined #wikipedia-en
May 02 00:17:56 <sonia>	MauchoEagle: do what you please
May 02 00:18:03 *	Mike5 (~Mike5@78.149.167.6) has joined #wikipedia-en
May 02 00:18:30 <MauchoEagle>	no I want to see why this user is making such a big deal about it
May 02 00:18:43 <slakr>	then ask him
May 02 00:18:56 <slakr>	use his talk page or email him
May 02 00:19:01 <foks>	uh, you mean a matrix
May 02 00:19:08 <slakr>	if the user page is inappropriate, ask for it to be deleted at [[WP:MFD]]
May 02 00:19:09 <foks>	A lot of users have them.
May 02 00:19:25 <Sven_Manguard>	this just in.... "?"
May 02 00:19:28 <Gfoley4>	he is talking about user:Hazard-SJ
May 02 00:19:59 <MauchoEagle>	yes thats what I am talking about Gfoley
May 02 00:20:04 <Gfoley4>	ik
May 02 00:20:06 <slakr>	what about him?
May 02 00:20:17 <slakr>	I see nothing glaringly Wrong about the page
May 02 00:20:20 <MauchoEagle>	I dont see what the hell the problem is
May 02 00:20:22 <sonia>	Hazard is a silly billy, but what he does is his problem
May 02 00:20:28 <slakr>	then ignore it
May 02 00:21:38 <Sven_Manguard>	I see the issue
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May 02 00:22:45 <slakr>	oh you're saying that people have an issue with the "on other wikis" part?
May 02 00:23:03 <Sven_Manguard>	no
May 02 00:23:14 <slakr>	then?
May 02 00:23:20 <Sven_Manguard>	it's a personal issue for me
May 02 00:23:24 <Sven_Manguard>	not anything real
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May 02 00:23:40 <Sven_Manguard>	I think his page is too godawful busy
May 02 00:23:47 <Sven_Manguard>	also the RC patroller badge is a bit much
May 02 00:23:53 <Sven_Manguard>	but nothing serious
May 02 00:24:00 <slakr>	hey I have the rc patroller badge! :P
May 02 00:24:21 <Sven_Manguard>	and that's why no one will ever love you
May 02 00:24:34 <slakr>	sweet
May 02 00:24:37 *	Fluff|away blinks
May 02 00:24:38 <slakr>	I'm only in it for the sex.
May 02 00:24:42 *	Fluff|away blinks harder
May 02 00:24:42 *	slakr chuckles
May 02 00:24:50 *	Fluff|away huddles in the corner, hiding from the scary people
May 02 00:24:56 <Sven_Manguard>	he he
May 02 00:24:59 <Sven_Manguard>	he eh
May 02 00:25:03 *	sonia hugs Fluff|away
May 02 00:25:10 *	Leonard^Bloom_ (~Justin@c-76-115-39-183.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #wikipedia-en
May 02 00:25:21 *	Fluff|away hugs sonia. So tired.
May 02 00:25:49 *	sonia pat pats Fluff|away , gives her hot chocolate
May 02 00:26:40 <Fluff|away>	fewd time
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May 02 00:29:24 <Sven_Manguard>	feud?
May 02 00:29:42 *	Sven_Manguard challenges Fluff|away to a battle
May 02 00:29:58 *	Sven_Manguard rolls for initiative
May 02 00:30:37 *	Logan_ throws a whale at Sven_Manguard 
May 02 00:30:50 *	Sven_Manguard rolls reflex save
May 02 00:30:56 *	Sven_Manguard dodges whale
May 02 00:31:43 *	Sven_Manguard casts fireball at Logan, dealing 20d6 damage (save for half)
May 02 00:33:33 *	MauchoEagle shoots Sven Mangaurd
May 02 00:33:41 <Sven_Manguard>	with what?
May 02 00:33:49 <Sven_Manguard>	bow, sling, crossbow, spell?
May 02 00:34:00 <MauchoEagle>	gun
May 02 00:34:11 <Sven_Manguard>	does not exist
May 02 00:35:41 <Sven_Manguard>	meh
May 02 00:35:48 <Peter-C>	Happy international workers day!
May 02 00:35:53 *	Douche (~Douche@wikimedia/Zalgo) has joined #wikipedia-en
May 02 00:35:57 *	Sven_Manguard casts imprison on MauchoEagle
May 02 00:36:14 *	Sven_Manguard casts fireball at Douche, surprise attack
May 02 00:36:17 *	Douche casts a rainbow spell.
May 02 00:36:27 <Sven_Manguard>	which one?
May 02 00:36:29 *	Sceptre has quit (Quit: There's a battle outside and it is ragin'. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls for the times they are a-changin')
May 02 00:36:30 <Peter-C>	Sven_Manguard does not like international workers day :(
May 02 00:36:33 <Douche>	a DOUBLE RAINBOW APPEARS!
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May 02 00:37:03 <Sven_Manguard>	Douche used "tired meme"
May 02 00:37:08 <Sven_Manguard>	Douche fails as a person!
May 02 00:37:18 <Douche>	:o
May 02 00:37:47 *	Douche performs the FUCK ritual on Sven_Manguard 
May 02 00:38:00 *	Sven_Manguard is an illithid, nice try though
May 02 00:38:25 <Logan_>	Sven_Manguard: your friend Sophiie is in #wikipedia-en :P
May 02 00:38:29 <Sven_Manguard>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illithid
May 02 00:38:35 <Logan_>	*#wikipedia
May 02 00:38:43 <Logan_>	*#wikimedia
May 02 00:38:44 <Logan_>	oops
May 02 00:39:01 <Logan_>	the last one :P
May 02 00:39:01 <Sven_Manguard>	Logan_: I don't care, and she's not my friend, "she's" a pervert permabanned by ArbCom
May 02 00:39:37 <Logan_>	"We're all just as confused as you are. Hope this gets sorted out soon!"
May 02 00:39:39 <Logan_>	:P
May 02 00:39:42 <Douche>	:P
May 02 00:39:49 <Sven_Manguard>	yeah
May 02 00:39:52 <Sven_Manguard>	that was day 1
May 02 00:39:59 <Sven_Manguard>	this lasted for weeks you know
May 02 00:40:03 *	sonia hugs Sven_Manguard
May 02 00:40:12 <Sven_Manguard>	:D
May 02 00:40:14 <Sven_Manguard>	:D
May 02 00:40:33 <Douche>	in what way she was perverted
May 02 00:40:52 <sonia>	Douche: let's end this conversation here; Soph has wasted too many editor hours already
May 02 00:40:53 <Sven_Manguard>	that "she" is a college student pretending to be a 13 year old girl
May 02 00:41:02 <Logan_>	that's...creepy
May 02 00:41:07 <Douche>	too creppy
May 02 00:41:10 <Douche>	i agree
May 02 00:41:10 <Sven_Manguard>	yes
May 02 00:41:13 <Sven_Manguard>	hence the ban
May 02 00:41:18 <Douche>	let's stfu
May 02 00:41:21 <Sven_Manguard>	now, per sonia, moving on
May 02 00:41:25 <Logan_>	heh
May 02 00:41:26 <sonia>	thank you.
May 02 00:41:33 *	Douche huggles sonia 
May 02 00:41:39 *	Logan_ throws his other whale at sonia
May 02 00:41:47 *	sonia sells the whale on eBay
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May 02 00:42:13 <Logan_>	omai
May 02 00:43:10 *	barts1a (~barts1a@CPE-121-215-45-105.lnse1.pie.bigpond.net.au) has joined #wikipedia-en
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May 02 00:43:39 *	Douche starts a troll.
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May 02 00:44:27 *	Gfoley4 is now known as Gfoley|AFK
May 02 00:44:37 *	Peter-C licks Douche
May 02 00:44:47 *	Douche is septic thank you.
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May 02 00:44:59 *	Seahorse_ is now known as Seahorse
May 02 00:45:32 *	Douche is listening to California Dreamin' (Tek-House Extended) by Royal Gigolos from Best of Royal Gigolos (✮✮✮✮✮)
May 02 00:45:32 <Peter-C>	O_o
May 02 00:45:39 *	Peter-C jumps on Douche's stomach
May 02 00:45:56 *	Douche puts Peter-C on fire.
May 02 00:46:18 *	barts1a puts out the fire
May 02 00:46:21 <barts1a>	eh, habit
May 02 00:46:56 *	Peter-C hugs barts1a
May 02 00:47:00 *	Peter-C spams barts1a
May 02 00:47:02 <Peter-C>	    Soyuz nyerushimyiy ryespublik svobodnyikh
May 02 00:47:02 <Peter-C>	    Splotila navyeki Vyelikaya Rus’.
May 02 00:47:02 <Peter-C>	    Da zdravstvuyet sozdannyiy volyey narodov
May 02 00:47:02 <Peter-C>	    Yedinyiy, moguchiy Sovyetskiy Soyuz!
May 02 00:47:13 <barts1a>	umm... english plz?
May 02 00:47:19 <Peter-C>	USSR anthem!
May 02 00:47:26 <Peter-C>	HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WORKERS DAY!
May 02 00:47:34 <Peter-C>	I got you a gift
May 02 00:47:43 *	Peter-C hands barts1a a lot of papers
May 02 00:47:45 <Peter-C>	MORE WORK! :D
May 02 00:47:50 *	Headbomb|Laptop has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
May 02 00:47:55 *	barts1a throws the papers into the fire
May 02 00:47:58 <barts1a>	NEXT!
May 02 00:48:01 <Peter-C>	Comred!
May 02 00:48:02 <Sven_Manguard>	barts1a: since I can't hear half the conversation, you must be talking to Peter. Don't ask for English, sense, or intelligence there
May 02 00:48:05 <Peter-C>	What have you done!
May 02 00:48:22 <Peter-C>	Sven_Manguard can hear words?
May 02 00:48:23 <barts1a>	Yeah. Peter-C
May 02 00:48:40 <Peter-C>	How can Sven_Manguard hear words that are typed O_o
May 02 00:48:59 <barts1a>	<Peter-C> Sven_Manguard can hear words?
May 02 00:49:00 <barts1a>	<Peter-C> How can Sven_Manguard hear words that are typed O_o
May 02 00:49:29 <Sven_Manguard>	barts1a: if you parrot him, I'll mute you too
May 02 00:49:45 <barts1a>	ok
May 02 00:49:45 <Peter-C>	*parrot his words
May 02 00:49:50 <Peter-C>	That would be a better phrase >_>
May 02 00:49:52 <Sven_Manguard>	thanks
May 02 00:50:21 *	BarkingFish has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
May 02 00:50:44 <sonia>	gah
May 02 00:50:48 <sonia>	I've made so many fails today
May 02 00:50:54 *	sonia probably shouldn't be editing
May 02 00:51:16 <Peter-C>	Are you drink or something?
May 02 00:51:21 *	barts1a gives sonia a reccommendation of coffee
May 02 00:51:29 <sonia>	not drunk, Peter-C, no
May 02 00:51:44 <Peter-C>	did you not have enough booze?
May 02 00:51:49 <sonia>	screen reader + huggle = epic fail
May 02 00:51:54 *	Douche is listening to Dégénérations by Mes Aïeux from En famille (✮✮✮✮✮)
May 02 00:52:07 *	barts1a kicks Douche in the balls
May 02 00:52:16 <Douche>	No french?
May 02 00:52:31 <Peter-C>	En
May 02 00:52:31 <Douche>	How about a legendary montrealer?
May 02 00:52:31 <barts1a>	no listening to spam
May 02 00:52:33 <Peter-C>	not Fr
May 02 00:52:33 *	Douche is listening to Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen from The Essential Leonard Cohen (✮✮✮✮✮)
May 02 00:52:44 <sonia>	Douche: please stop
May 02 00:52:49 <barts1a>	Please stop the listnening to spam
May 02 00:52:49 <Douche>	okay
May 02 00:52:53 *	Douche huggles barts1a 
May 02 00:52:55 *	Douche huggles sonia 
May 02 00:53:00 <Peter-C>	I WANT A HUGGLE
May 02 00:53:01 <Peter-C>	>:(
May 02 00:53:16 *	Mono un-huggles Peter-C
May 02 00:53:18 *	barts1a wants a giant battle robot
May 02 00:53:22 *	Douche gets in a hazmat suit
May 02 00:53:25 *	Douche huggles Peter-C 
May 02 00:53:26 *	MauchoEagle kicks Peter-C
May 02 00:53:38 *	Peter-C licks Douche
May 02 00:53:40 <geniice>	and I want hypersonic kinetic kill shots guess we both have to be dissapointed
May 02 00:53:43 *	Douche gets in the decontamination chamber and gets decontaminated.
May 02 00:53:53 *	Peter-C watches his acid saliva corod through the decon suit
May 02 00:53:53 *	Douche burns the hazmat suit.
May 02 00:54:11 <Peter-C>	*corods
May 02 00:54:16 *	Tim1357 (~Tim1357@91.sub-75-194-10.myvzw.com) has joined #wikipedia-en
May 02 00:54:17 <sonia>	*corrode
May 02 00:54:23 <Peter-C>	I KNEW THAT
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May 02 00:54:26 *	Peter-C eats the librarian
May 02 00:55:00 *	barts1a goes into his zombie-proof house and folds it up into concrete block form http://geeksofdoom.com/2011/04/30/must-see-what-your-zombie-proof-house-should-look-like/
May 02 00:56:22 *	dungodung is now known as dungodung|away
May 02 00:56:39 <geniice>	no this is what your zombie proof house should like like
May 02 00:57:04 <geniice>	the victorians may have been a bit backwards but they knew their anti zombie defences
May 02 00:57:08 <geniice>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Horse_Sand_Fort_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1087244.jpg
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May 02 00:57:32 <barts1a>	but it's also isolated
May 02 00:57:59 <barts1a>	if you want to live a normal life until the zombie outbreak; the house I linked to is your best bet
May 02 00:58:00 <Douche>	barts1a: where are you from?
May 02 00:58:08 *	Tim1357 (~Tim1357@Wikipedia/Tim1357) has joined #wikipedia-en
May 02 00:58:09 <barts1a>	Australia
May 02 00:58:19 <Douche>	Niiiiiiiice!
May 02 00:58:27 <Douche>	And a good morning mate!
May 02 00:58:32 <barts1a>	I don't own that house though
May 02 00:58:47 *	Douche is now known as derp
May 02 00:59:38 *	derp is from Montreal, Canada.
May 02 01:00:11 <MauchoEagle>	derp do you sometimes wish you ouldnt vote in elections
May 02 01:00:15 <MauchoEagle>	*couldnt
May 02 01:00:32 <barts1a>	voting is mandatory here too
May 02 01:00:34 <derp>	meh, i'm not THAT interestedin schol elections.
May 02 01:00:38 <MauchoEagle>	My fiance is erking me about voting for the liberals
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May 02 01:00:49 <derp>	NDP here
May 02 01:00:50 <derp>	:P
May 02 01:01:16 <MauchoEagle>	NDP
May 02 01:01:18 <MauchoEagle>	dude they suck
May 02 01:01:18 <barts1a>	Liberal or Labour; eitherway we're fucked
May 02 01:01:24 <barts1a>	*Labir
May 02 01:01:26 <derp>	or the Bloc
May 02 01:01:27 <barts1a>	**Labor
May 02 01:01:28 <derp>	:)
May 02 01:01:33 *	barts1a gets a coffee
May 02 01:01:39 <derp>	what's your riding?
May 02 01:01:42 <geniice>	vote for the empire party
May 02 01:01:53 <MauchoEagle>	Oh yea getting those people from Quebec
May 02 01:02:00 <MauchoEagle>	seriously
May 02 01:02:16 <MauchoEagle>	I was born in Canada and dont know french
May 02 01:02:24 <MauchoEagle>	and cant understand the accent
May 02 01:02:29 <derp>	I live in a Bloc stronghold.
May 02 01:02:38 <MauchoEagle>	ohhhhhhh
May 02 01:02:48 <geniice>	vote empire. Reunification with britian for Canada and genocide for quebec
May 02 01:03:57 <Sven_Manguard>	is the zombie house airtight
May 02 01:04:15 <barts1a>	I don't think so
May 02 01:04:36 <barts1a>	but zombies shouldn't be able to use neurotoxin anyway... right?
May 02 01:04:36 <MauchoEagle>	Empire party
May 02 01:04:38 *	Leonard^Bloom_ is now known as Franz_Kafka
May 02 01:04:42 <MauchoEagle>	seriously again
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May 02 01:04:55 <Sven_Manguard>	what if the zombie virus is airbourne?
May 02 01:05:03 <MauchoEagle>	wouldnt vote them in if they were the last party to vote for
May 02 01:05:30 *	thegoodcushion (~thegoodcu@unaffiliated/thegoodcushion) has joined #wikipedia-en
May 02 01:05:57 <barts1a>	if it's airbourne then whoever is in that house is probably screwed
May 02 01:06:03 <Sven_Manguard>	yep
May 02 01:06:08 <Sven_Manguard>	the one oversight
May 02 01:06:27 <barts1a>	but at least the house looks good
May 02 01:06:29 <Sven_Manguard>	although something tells me that the owner of that house is more afraid of Putin than zombies
May 02 01:06:49 *	Gfoley|AFK has quit (Quit: AFK.)
May 02 01:07:07 <barts1a>	The owner did say that they wanted the feeling of security
May 02 01:07:15 <Sven_Manguard>	if I were anywhere in Europe I'd be scared of Putin
May 02 01:08:04 <MauchoEagle>	Why?
May 02 01:08:16 <Sven_Manguard>	he's an autocrat with nukes
May 02 01:10:02 <MauchoEagle>	and that is bad why?
May 02 01:10:18 <MauchoEagle>	not all autocrats are power-crazy
May 02 01:10:23 <Sven_Manguard>	Putin is
May 02 01:10:29 <Sven_Manguard>	He went to war with Georgia
May 02 01:10:43 <Sven_Manguard>	he rewrote Russia's constitution to stay in power
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May 02 01:11:22 <MauchoEagle>	I am sure there was a reason for that war which for some reason I have never heard about
May 02 01:11:38 <geniice>	in fairness  Georgia went war with Putin (okey and the rest of russia)
May 02 01:12:05 <MauchoEagle>	but the constitution rewrite would make any person uneasy
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May 02 01:15:36 <Logan_>	Sven_Manguard: <Sophiie> ok ill ask again, is anyone a parent?
May 02 01:15:42 <Logan_>	creeper...
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May 02 01:17:39 <derp>	:o
May 02 01:17:40 <Sven_Manguard>	!ops Sophiie (in #wikipedia) needs to be kicked from any Wikipedia channels upon sight. Consider this a top level emergency. The issue involves ArbCom, and possibly the police. PM me for details.
May 02 01:17:46 <derp>	the simpsos are going to spoof jersey shore
May 02 01:17:46 <derp>	lol
May 02 01:17:52 <Logan_>	holy...
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May 02 01:18:07 <slakr>	why?
May 02 01:18:13 <FAdmArcher>	umm...
May 02 01:18:28 <FAdmArcher>	I know some background not willing at this point
May 02 01:18:30 <slakr>	how on earth can irc be an emergency?
May 02 01:18:43 <FAdmArcher>	Blocks != IRC bans
May 02 01:18:46 <foks>	Oh Sven
May 02 01:18:46 <derp>	Sven_Manguard: pvt
May 02 01:18:47 <Logan_>	Sven_Manguard: that quote was from #freenode
May 02 01:18:55 <Logan_>	but she's still in #wikimedia
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May 02 01:19:36 <FAdmArcher>	oh wai... #wikimedia, i'm not even an op there
May 02 01:19:38 <FAdmArcher>	:P
May 02 01:19:45 <slakr>	I fail to see the urgency.
May 02 01:20:11 <FAdmArcher>	agreed though ^^
May 02 01:20:23 *	Isarra is now known as Shavaku
May 02 01:20:25 <barts1a>	Background needed
May 02 01:21:00 <Logan_>	This issue is now being discussed internally.  End of discussion.
May 02 01:21:34 <foks>	bizarre.
May 02 01:21:36 *	slon02 frowns
May 02 01:21:41 <slon02>	"How do you get a boyfriend" was just deleted under G2
May 02 01:21:58 <slon02>	I have very strong doubts that it was a test page
May 02 01:22:04 <foks>	So the ops at -en were pinged over something... that didn't actually affect them in any way
May 02 01:22:59 <foks>	On a vaguely-related note - anyone speak Malay?
May 02 01:24:08 <MauchoEagle>	I somewhat speak it but I suck at it
May 02 01:24:46 <foks>	oh
May 02 01:24:48 <foks>	:D
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May 02 01:26:26 <foks>	keresopoakau
May 02 01:26:34 <foks>	Is in Malay and has no spaces.
May 02 01:26:36 <foks>	):
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May 02 01:27:10 <foks>	I understand "kere" and "kau" mean "to train" and "you", afaik
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May 02 01:29:50 <MauchoEagle>	Could it mean You train so P.O.A.
May 02 01:30:15 <MauchoEagle>	that makes no sense
May 02 01:31:19 <MauchoEagle>	Its above me
May 02 01:32:30 <sonia>	MauchoEagle: anda bercakap melayu?
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May 02 01:32:58 <Myra>	!ops omggggggggggggg
May 02 01:33:10 <Logan_>	Myra: ...
May 02 01:33:10 <MauchoEagle>	Sedikit
May 02 01:33:15 <slakr>	omfggg!
May 02 01:33:24 *	slakr goes batcrap insane with Myra
May 02 01:33:30 <Logan_>	oh ma geeeeeeez
May 02 01:33:31 *	SpitfireWP takes photos.
May 02 01:33:47 <sonia>	MauchoEagle: malaysian?
May 02 01:34:25 <MauchoEagle>	what do you mean by that
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May 02 01:35:04 <MauchoEagle>	If you mean if I speak malaysian then...
May 02 01:35:06 <MauchoEagle>	i didnt hanya memberitahu anda bahawa
May 02 01:35:34 <sonia>	are you Malaysian,  I mean.
May 02 01:35:55 <sonia>	malaysian isn't exactly a language :p
May 02 01:35:56 <MauchoEagle>	no
May 02 01:36:05 <MauchoEagle>	I am Canadian
May 02 01:36:16 *	sonia smiles
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May 02 01:36:37 <MauchoEagle>	Malay is just a language I picked up on a trip
May 02 01:36:53 <MauchoEagle>	never really explored it that much
May 02 01:36:59 <sonia>	ah, 'k.
May 02 01:37:14 <geniice>	wait goldeneye is now considered retro?
May 02 01:37:22 <foks>	Yes.
May 02 01:37:28 <foks>	Bloddy hell, SSX is
May 02 01:37:36 <foks>	young whippersnappers
May 02 01:37:46 <MauchoEagle>	How did you get to learn malay?
May 02 01:37:59 <MauchoEagle>	Bagaimana anda boleh belajar melayu?
May 02 01:38:16 <MauchoEagle>	sorry I just started typing
May 02 01:38:23 <MauchoEagle>	meant to type that in malay
May 02 01:39:08 <sonia>	MauchoEagle: my father grew up in Malaysia.
May 02 01:39:29 <MauchoEagle>	oh
May 02 01:39:30 <Headbomb>	sonia: have you seen his birth certificate?
May 02 01:39:32 <Headbomb>	the long version?
May 02 01:39:34 *	derp huggles sonia
May 02 01:39:39 <sonia>	Headbomb: wha?
May 02 01:39:47 <foks>	hahah
May 02 01:39:54 <foks>	topical reference, I like it
May 02 01:40:00 <MauchoEagle>	For the sake of curiosity, were you born in malaysia
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May 02 01:40:11 <Headbomb>	nvmind, if you don't get it, you're lucky
May 02 01:40:11 <sonia>	also, MauchoEagle, malay sounds bizarre through a screen reader
May 02 01:40:17 <sonia>	MauchoEagle: no.
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May 02 01:43:50 <MauchoEagle>	sonia:do you watch george lopez
May 02 01:44:14 <sonia>	...no?
May 02 01:44:43 <MauchoEagle>	I am watching this episode...
May 02 01:44:52 <MauchoEagle>	hes singing a song...
May 02 01:45:17 <MauchoEagle>	Sonia, call you on the phonia, take you home and make you monia
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May 02 01:46:55 <sonia>	lolwut
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May 02 01:47:03 *	Ajri`lanka is now known as Lokshmi
May 02 01:47:45 <MauchoEagle>	sonia
May 02 01:47:48 <MauchoEagle>	call you on the phone
May 02 01:47:56 <MauchoEagle>	take you hame and make you moan
May 02 01:48:11 <MauchoEagle>	thats what george said not me
May 02 01:48:22 <MauchoEagle>	just for reference
May 02 01:48:23 <SpitfireWP>	MauchoEagle, can I help you?
May 02 01:48:41 <MauchoEagle>	and you mean that by?
May 02 01:48:49 <SpitfireWP>	... into this straight-jacket? :D
May 02 01:48:52 *	SpitfireWP winks.
May 02 01:48:56 <Logan_>	MauchoEagle: He wants to take you home and make you moan.
May 02 01:48:59 <Logan_>	;)
May 02 01:49:00 <sonia>	I got the point MauchoEagle :P
May 02 01:49:15 <SpitfireWP>	Well, this is embarrassing. Thanks Logan_. :(
May 02 01:49:17 <Logan_>	hehe
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May 02 01:49:34 *	MauchoEagle shuts his mouth
May 02 01:49:44 <Logan_>	'Twould be wise.
May 02 01:51:01 *	slakr is now playing applause.mp3
May 02 01:51:05 <slakr>	:P
May 02 01:51:39 <MauchoEagle>	would http://www.soccerway.com/teams/el-salvador/el-salvador/matches/ be an up-to-standard reference in an article
May 02 01:53:13 <zscout370>	I would say so
May 02 01:53:18 <MauchoEagle>	also would an article in the Canadian encyclopedia be a good ref
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May 02 02:19:58 <Sven_Manguard>	I need an admin with a bit of time on their hands
May 02 02:20:04 <Sven_Manguard>	or a nuke
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May 02 02:20:22 <Sven_Manguard>	actually I just need a nuke
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May 02 02:20:27 <geniice>	[[special:nuke]]
May 02 02:20:41 <geniice>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Nuke
May 02 02:20:50 <Sven_Manguard>	I can't read that
May 02 02:21:01 <geniice>	This tool allows for mass deletions of pages recently added by a given user or an IP address. Input the username or IP address to get a list of pages to delete.
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May 02 02:27:54 <Guerillero>	what did someone upload sven
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May 02 02:28:26 <Sven_Manguard>	Guerillero: half a hundred redundant copyrighted logos
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May 02 02:28:58 <Guerillero>	Oh fun
May 02 02:29:13 <Sven_Manguard>	Courcelles handled it.
May 02 02:29:13 <Guerillero>	I wish I could provide your nuke
May 02 02:29:21 <Guerillero>	ok
May 02 02:29:23 <Sven_Manguard>	Three cheers for Courcelles
May 02 02:29:28 <Guerillero>	:D
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May 02 02:29:50 <Sven_Manguard>	:D
May 02 02:29:57 <Gfoley4>	yep, he used nuke
May 02 02:30:16 *	Alpha_Quadrant (~AQ@wikipedia/Alpha-Quadrant) has left #wikipedia-en
May 02 02:30:26 *	sonia nukes Sven_Manguard.
May 02 02:30:28 <Sven_Manguard>	he used rollback all, he said
May 02 02:31:14 <Guerillero>	oh my
May 02 02:31:52 <Gfoley4>	rollback all? probably some script
May 02 02:32:25 <Elockid>	omg. I did  not know there was a Special:Nuke
May 02 02:32:39 <Elockid>	that would have been so helpful at times
May 02 02:32:41 <sonia>	lol Elockid.
May 02 02:32:42 <Dragonfly6-7>	Elockid - it deletes all pages created by (user) within the past 720 hours
May 02 02:33:39 <Elockid>	thanks for the info
May 02 02:34:22 <Sven_Manguard>	it also says "Nuclear Launch Detected" like from Starcraft
May 02 02:34:41 <Sven_Manguard>	Irradiate me baby!
May 02 02:35:00 *	Sven_Manguard vulgar thrusts some plutonium
May 02 02:35:02 <KFP>	Sven_Manguard: You wouldn't want that.
May 02 02:35:03 *	YouLeMacaroni has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
May 02 02:35:14 <KFP>	Really.
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May 02 02:37:19 <Peter-C>	Huh
May 02 02:37:29 <Peter-C>	According to my friend a girl can punch me int he balls
May 02 02:37:37 <Peter-C>	But I can't punch a girl in the boob
May 02 02:37:41 <Peter-C>	o.o
May 02 02:37:46 <Gfoley4>	but you can't punch in the boob?
May 02 02:37:46 <Gfoley4>	wow
May 02 02:37:47 <Gfoley4>	{{ec}}
May 02 02:38:02 <Gfoley4>	we think a like
May 02 02:38:18 <quanticle>	Peter-C: What about kicks?
May 02 02:38:26 <Peter-C>	Not that either
May 02 02:38:43 <Peter-C>	Gfoley4 - http://www.petercoti.com/2011/05/political_censorship_an_enemy_of_progress/ :D
May 02 02:38:48 *	Peter-C glomps Gfoley4
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May 02 02:39:37 <Gfoley4>	ohh, you redesigned it
May 02 02:39:49 <Peter-C>	I know :D
May 02 02:39:51 <Gfoley4>	haha, like the pic
May 02 02:39:52 <Peter-C>	I hate it :|
May 02 02:39:54 <Gfoley4>	:D
May 02 02:39:57 <Peter-C>	(I like the pic though)
May 02 02:39:59 <Peter-C>	I have the design
May 02 02:40:07 <Peter-C>	I'm going to buy a new one soon :/
May 02 02:40:22 <Peter-C>	FYI: I made the pic :)
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May 02 02:44:09 <Peter-C>	BasketOfPuppies :D
May 02 02:44:12 <BasketOfPuppies>	hi
May 02 02:44:12 <Peter-C>	OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
May 02 02:44:17 *	Peter-C massivly glomps the BasketOfPuppies
May 02 02:44:25 *	Peter-C cuddles all of the puppies
May 02 02:44:31 <Peter-C>	Where have you been mister >:(
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May 02 02:45:57 <sonia>	oh look, a BasketOfPuppies
May 02 02:46:32 <Guerillero>	Hey BOP
May 02 02:46:44 <BasketOfPuppies>	hi
May 02 02:47:29 <quanticle>	Hey, its sonia.
May 02 02:47:30 *	Elockid is now known as Elockid|afk
May 02 02:47:31 <quanticle>	What's up?
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May 02 02:47:57 *	sonia waves at quanticle
May 02 02:47:59 *	Fluff|sleep is now known as Fluffernutter
May 02 02:48:04 <Peter-C>	Fluffernutter!
May 02 02:48:09 <Peter-C>	Fluffernutter - http://www.petercoti.com/2011/05/political_censorship_an_enemy_of_progress/ - show IH
May 02 02:49:49 *	dungodung|away is now known as dungodung
May 02 02:50:01 <Peter-C>	Fluffernutter - do you like the chem plant article?
May 02 02:50:01 <Fluffernutter>	do i have to?
May 02 02:50:06 <Fluffernutter>	"chem plant article"?
May 02 02:50:18 <Peter-C>	Woops...
May 02 02:50:30 <Peter-C>	Wrong person....
May 02 02:50:33 <Fluffernutter>	oi, Ironholds, Peter-C wants you to eviscerate his latest blog post
May 02 02:50:34 <Peter-C>	Yes you have to
May 02 02:50:34 <Peter-C>	Scare IH
May 02 02:50:38 <Peter-C>	^
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May 02 02:54:02 <Peter-C>	Someone noticed me! :D https://twitter.com/#!/FreeTheInternet/status/64837913548042240
May 02 02:54:03 <Peter-C>	:D
May 02 02:54:57 <Fluffernutter>	um, they're RTing anything that mentions "censorship"
May 02 02:55:18 <Peter-C>	>_>
May 02 02:55:21 <Peter-C>	shush
May 02 02:55:25 *	Peter-C kicks Fluffernutter in the balls
May 02 02:55:28 <sonia>	...
May 02 02:55:32 <Fluffernutter>	...
May 02 02:55:35 <geniice>	I'm sure this channel has rules about spamming
May 02 02:56:03 <Peter-C>	Yes
May 02 02:56:12 <Peter-C>	But they are suspended if you know who to bribe
May 02 02:56:39 <Fluffernutter>	Peter-C: do you really want me to go poke IH and have him tell you all about whether i have balls or not? because i'm thinking you don't need that sort of trauma in your life
May 02 02:56:43 *	mikemoral|away is now known as mikemoral
May 02 02:57:00 *	sonia boggles at Fluffernutter
May 02 02:57:02 <Peter-C>	^
May 02 02:57:49 *	Fluffernutter smiles
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May 02 02:57:56 <Fluffernutter>	i like having the nuclear option available
May 02 02:57:58 <Fluffernutter>	it shuts him up quickly
May 02 02:58:27 <Ironholds>	the nuclear option would surely be an mp4 of us doing the nasty
May 02 02:58:34 <Fluffernutter>	...ewwww
May 02 02:58:56 <Peter-C>	I think it would be a GREAT film if neither of you were in it
May 02 02:59:03 <Fluffernutter>	...ewwwwwwwww
May 02 02:59:12 <Peter-C>	I think me and my hand should make an mp4
May 02 02:59:25 *	Peter-C goes to make a music video
May 02 02:59:39 <Sunderland06>	Peter-C: Please say it is you punching yourself repeatedly.
May 02 02:59:47 *	Peter-C hand models
May 02 03:00:03 <Peter-C>	Nope, it is be living life to the fullest
May 02 03:00:06 <Peter-C>	And being happy!
May 02 03:00:10 <Peter-C>	Rainbows and unicorns!
May 02 03:00:42 <Sven_Manguard>	anyone here speak spanish?
May 02 03:01:20 <BasketOfPuppies>	no sir, i don't
May 02 03:01:46 <Fluffernutter>	i can fake it, Sven_Manguard, depending on how competent a speaker you need
May 02 03:01:57 <BasketOfPuppies>	me gusta los tacos verdes
May 02 03:01:59 <BasketOfPuppies>	that's about it
May 02 03:02:01 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to eir
May 02 03:02:02 *	eir removes ban on *!*@69.174.249.7
May 02 03:02:02 *	eir removes channel operator status from eir
May 02 03:02:11 <Sven_Manguard>	I need someone to go to es.Wiki and see if their Featured Sounds program is active
May 02 03:02:44 <Logan_>	Prodego: Did you just...block yourself?
May 02 03:02:50 <Prodego>	yes, yes I did
May 02 03:02:54 <BasketOfPuppies>	O.o
May 02 03:02:57 <sonia>	...
May 02 03:03:00 <Logan_>	Prodego: Was that an accident?
May 02 03:03:11 *	Zamorak has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
May 02 03:03:15 <Prodego>	nope, I was doing all that vandalism so I blocked myself
May 02 03:03:20 <Fluffernutter>	...
May 02 03:03:25 <Logan_>	O_O
May 02 03:03:35 <Sven_Manguard>	O_o
May 02 03:03:46 <Peter-C>	Erm...
May 02 03:03:50 <Peter-C>	I'm gonna join in
May 02 03:03:52 <Peter-C>	O_O
May 02 03:03:55 <Logan_>	Prodego: is it that ANI thread?
May 02 03:03:56 <Sven_Manguard>	wheel war!
May 02 03:04:27 <Logan_>	Prodego: Courcelles just unblocked you
May 02 03:04:34 <Logan_>	and Gfoley4
May 02 03:04:35 <Sven_Manguard>	block him again
May 02 03:04:39 <Logan_>	:P
May 02 03:04:39 <Sven_Manguard>	wheel war!
May 02 03:04:52 *	MC8 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
May 02 03:05:21 <Sven_Manguard>	I wanna see a wheel war over an accidental block...
May 02 03:05:29 <Fluffernutter>	wtf is going on
May 02 03:05:43 <Sven_Manguard>	the internet is going down
May 02 03:05:46 <Sven_Manguard>	in flames
May 02 03:05:59 <Gfoley4>	Fluffernutter: "MrFishBot: Prodego blocked User:Prodego (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite: [[WP:VAND|Vandalism]]; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:log/block"
May 02 03:06:17 <sonia>	Prodego now has two admin accounts.
May 02 03:06:22 <sonia>	He doesn't need the first so he's discarding it.
May 02 03:06:25 <Gfoley4>	;o
May 02 03:06:27 <Logan_>	wha?
May 02 03:06:35 *	Gfoley4 discards sonia and Peter-C
May 02 03:07:07 <Logan_>	Prodego: Explanation, please?
May 02 03:09:16 <Logan_>	oh, I get it
May 02 03:09:19 <SpitfireWP>	Logan_, he's a mass sockpuppeteer with multiple personality disorder.
May 02 03:09:30 <Logan_>	the script that was reverting those moves also blocked you
May 02 03:09:31 <SpitfireWP>	One of his personalities hide his admin password from the other.
May 02 03:09:38 <SpitfireWP>	Bit like Fight Club.
May 02 03:10:14 <SpitfireWP>	And he had to shot himself in the head to stop his sockpuppeteer version from abusing his admin account.
May 02 03:10:15 <SpitfireWP>	See?
May 02 03:10:17 <Fluffernutter>	the first rule of Prodego is you don't talk about Prodego?
May 02 03:10:24 <SpitfireWP>	Fluffernutter, exactly!
May 02 03:10:25 <SpitfireWP>	Shush :P
May 02 03:10:32 *	Fluffernutter shushes
May 02 03:11:11 <Sven_Manguard>	Prodego gets blocked in may
May 02 03:11:18 <Sven_Manguard>	it's cosmic
May 02 03:11:49 *	sonia runs RfA next may just to block him again
May 02 03:12:23 <Gfoley4>	sonia: block him on simple :D
May 02 03:12:46 *	Fluffernutter torpedoes sonia's RFA hopes and dreams with incriminating video of That Thing You Did
May 02 03:13:13 <sonia>	you told me you'd destroyed the tape of that when I handed over the money
May 02 03:13:25 *	Sven_Manguard secretly swapped out that video with That Thing Fluffernutter Did With Ironholds
May 02 03:13:39 *	Lokshmi is now known as DamselInADress
May 02 03:13:42 <Gfoley4>	O_O
May 02 03:13:53 <Fluffernutter>	<_<
May 02 03:14:10 *	Sven_Manguard does the "Went There" dance
May 02 03:14:11 *	dungodung is now known as dungodung|away
May 02 03:14:13 *	dungodung|away is now known as dungodung|sleep
May 02 03:14:21 <Fluffernutter>	surely that will only increase my chances of acquiring phenomenal wiki power
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May 02 03:15:54 <Guerillero>	lol
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May 02 03:16:21 *	sonia mobs Dcoetzee
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May 02 03:16:39 *	Dcoetzee tacklehugs sonia and kisses her.
May 02 03:16:49 <Dcoetzee>	Hi :-)
May 02 03:17:00 <sonia>	...long time no see? :p
May 02 03:17:00 *	Fluffernutter throws herself on the peoplepile on top of Dcoetzee
May 02 03:17:09 <sonia>	yay
May 02 03:17:16 *	Dcoetzee tries not to crush sonia :-P
May 02 03:17:17 *	sonia passes Fluffernutter a cookie
May 02 03:17:24 *	Dcoetzee passes cookie on up.
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May 02 03:17:33 <Dcoetzee>	One for me too? :-P
May 02 03:17:36 *	Fluffernutter noms
May 02 03:17:37 <sonia>	sure :)
May 02 03:17:47 *	Dcoetzee nomnoms :-)
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May 02 03:18:15 <Douche>	hmm
May 02 03:18:22 <Douche>	i just got a iOS 5 crash report
May 02 03:18:40 *	Fluffernutter grins. Ironholds just wandered past me. "Oh hey, anything good happening on the internets?" I look at Sven_Manguard's comment, look back at him. "Nope, nothing."
May 02 03:18:58 *	Douche ehuggles Fluffernutter 
May 02 03:19:04 *	Douche kicks Ironholds out of USA"
May 02 03:19:25 <Fluffernutter>	he's going home tomorrow, Douche. I'd appreciate if you refrain from kicking him out until then
May 02 03:19:25 <Sven_Manguard>	hate crimes are bad Douche
May 02 03:19:37 <Douche>	Sven_Manguard: i know :)
May 02 03:19:46 *	Douche huggles Ironholds instead.
May 02 03:20:09 <Dcoetzee>	Crime is bad. Hate crime is badder.
May 02 03:20:11 <Sven_Manguard>	eww has that Douche been cleaned
May 02 03:20:21 *	Douche huggles Dcoetzee 
May 02 03:20:28 *	Dcoetzee hugs Douche
May 02 03:20:29 <Dcoetzee>	Hey
May 02 03:20:47 <Gfoley4>	Guerillero: um, he is unblocked
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May 02 03:21:31 <Guerillero>	look at his log
May 02 03:22:10 <Ironholds>	hate crime is *not* badder
May 02 03:22:23 <Ironholds>	hate crime legislation is entirely bullshit
May 02 03:22:29 <Fluffernutter>	oh here we go
May 02 03:22:32 *	sonia lynches Ironholds
May 02 03:22:33 <Guerillero>	badder?
May 02 03:22:54 <Ironholds>	sonia: I have a reasonable ground for my opinion!
May 02 03:23:10 <sonia>	Ironholds: but I can lynch you, you're a white male
May 02 03:23:12 <Dcoetzee>	Yeah hate crime is actually contentious.
May 02 03:23:27 <Ironholds>	which is that society should be working towards inclusiveness, not, say, arguing that raping someone for being a lesbian is somehow worse than raping someone for being sexy and walking down a dark alley
May 02 03:24:40 <Ironholds>	which firstly fails to do its job (is anyone who wants to rape or murder people really going to be put off by "oh gee, an extra five years in prison"?) secondly divides up communities by giving privileged positions to certain minorities, thirdly is offensive to those "mainstream" individuals who are the victims of crime, and is, at the end of the day, simply inequitable
May 02 03:24:47 <Gfoley4>	o
May 02 03:25:27 <Dcoetzee>	I actually oppose affirmative action but generally support hate crime legislation, if the extra penalty is reasonable.
May 02 03:25:36 <Ironholds>	Dcoetzee: why?
May 02 03:25:44 <Guerillero>	Killing anyone because of some attribute is wrong
May 02 03:25:47 *	Pilif12p resists mainstream joke
May 02 03:25:49 *	sonia sits next to Fluffernutter on the oh here we go sit
May 02 03:25:50 <Dcoetzee>	On the grounds that ordinary rape may occur due to circumstantial relationships with individuals.
May 02 03:25:50 <sonia>	*seat
May 02 03:25:56 <Ironholds>	Dcoetzee:...explain
May 02 03:25:58 <Dcoetzee>	And so be less likely to reoccur.
May 02 03:26:14 *	Fluffernutter hugs sonia, passes her a don't-give-a-fuck cookie
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May 02 03:26:39 <Dcoetzee>	A person who targets a large group with violence is quite likely to run into a member of that group in the future after leaving prison.
May 02 03:26:41 <Ironholds>	Dcoetzee: and as such, all of those who practise quote unquote ordinary rape should be given what equates to a comparatively free ride?
May 02 03:27:06 <Ironholds>	yes, so those who rape women for being lesbians are likely to run into lesbians if they are let out and thus be more of a threat to society
May 02 03:27:23 <Ironholds>	while those who rape women for being, y'know, women, are totally going to be just living in a sausagefest when they get out
May 02 03:27:26 *	Guerillero stops caring and pulls up a chair to watch the titans collide
May 02 03:27:31 <Gfoley4>	Fluffernutter: I want a "don't give a fuck" cookie :D
May 02 03:27:51 <Dcoetzee>	I think they all deserve punishment but there's also the preventative aspect. Some rapes occur only in the context of a particular abusive relationship.
May 02 03:27:55 <Fluffernutter>	Gfoley4, you have to not five a fuck to be eligible for the cookie
May 02 03:27:58 <Fluffernutter>	...give
May 02 03:28:04 <sonia>	Ironholds: let's put it this way. If life is shit to me, it's shit to me, que sera sera. If people are persistently shit to me because of some specific attribute I can't change that I've worked against social norms to establish, that... kinda sucks
May 02 03:28:07 <Dcoetzee>	They might do it again to a future partner, but I doubt they'd do it to randoms.
May 02 03:28:09 <Gfoley4>	fine, be like that
May 02 03:28:10 <Gfoley4>	:|
May 02 03:28:24 <Ironholds>	sonia: it does. But that specific attribute could be that, say, you happen to own a vagina
May 02 03:29:01 <Ironholds>	if they discriminate because you own a vagina, bad. If they discriminate because you're a member of the LGBT community, also bad
May 02 03:29:03 *	Fluffernutter takes away sonia's cookire
May 02 03:29:04 <Ironholds>	but not *worse*
May 02 03:29:05 <Dcoetzee>	Ironholds: For my argument to hold the legislation would require revision to address any rapist who targets a large group indiscriminately.
May 02 03:29:12 <sonia>	Fluffernutter: sorry :p
May 02 03:29:27 <Ironholds>	Dcoetzee: your argument can be addressed through sentencing guidelines being modified to take into account the circumstances of individual rapes
May 02 03:29:34 <Ironholds>	not blanket legislation, which is what is actually done
May 02 03:29:39 <Dcoetzee>	That's also true.
May 02 03:30:38 <Dcoetzee>	I'm not sure I'd want no law on the books though, at least a higher minimum/maximum for indiscriminate rapists targeting a group.
May 02 03:30:45 <Dcoetzee>	That doesn't seem very hard to codify.
May 02 03:31:05 <Dcoetzee>	A wide enough interval still leaves room for sentencing guidelines.
May 02 03:31:10 <Douche>	:o
May 02 03:31:15 <Douche>	Obama is going to make a statement
May 02 03:31:16 <Douche>	:o
May 02 03:31:35 <Guerillero>	about what?
May 02 03:31:37 <Fluffernutter>	me
May 02 03:31:43 <Guerillero>	:o
May 02 03:31:55 <Dcoetzee>	"Obama: I asked for milk with this coffee."
May 02 03:32:09 <Douche>	Guerillero: no idea
May 02 03:32:14 <Douche>	it's a message to the station.
May 02 03:32:16 <Douche>	sorry
May 02 03:32:18 <Douche>	nation.
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May 02 03:32:27 *	Guerillero waits for it to be put up on the FSC page
May 02 03:33:07 <sonia>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pippa_Middleton#Buttocks
May 02 03:33:31 <Douche>	Guerillero: national security.
May 02 03:34:13 <Dcoetzee>	sonia: Heh, at least she's famous for *something*
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May 02 03:34:21 *	Fluffernutter is now known as Fluff|sleep
May 02 03:34:27 <Dcoetzee>	Fluff|sleep: Sleep well :-)0
May 02 03:34:34 <Douche>	ni ni Fluff|sleep
May 02 03:34:35 <Douche>	<3
May 02 03:34:49 *	sonia steals all Fluff|sleep's cookies
May 02 03:34:55 *	Dcoetzee gasps
May 02 03:35:03 <Dcoetzee>	sonia: All this time... you never told me you were a cookie thief!
May 02 03:35:43 <Dcoetzee>	All the lies! "Maybe you forgot to go to the bakery"! And I believed you! I trusted you!
May 02 03:36:40 <sonia>	I told you I had a past I was escaping; you said you didn't care.
May 02 03:36:51 <sonia>	It's... an addiction I'm forced to feed.
May 02 03:36:55 <sonia>	I wish it didn't have to be this way.
May 02 03:37:21 <Dcoetzee>	sonia: How long have you been on the run? What if they find you? They'll lock you up forever. You know cookie thieves *never* get off lightly.
May 02 03:37:39 <sonia>	oh, but you've eaten my cookies, you're a partner in crime now
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May 02 03:37:48 *	Dcoetzee gasps
May 02 03:38:22 *	sonia offers Dcoetzee another cookie.
May 02 03:38:30 <Dcoetzee>	sonia: Well, I guess we're in this together then. We'll have to travel the world, always one step ahead.
May 02 03:38:38 *	Dcoetzee takes cookie and eats defiantly.
May 02 03:39:11 *	Zamorak places cookie jar inside a cage
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May 02 03:39:37 <tnxman307>	anyone up tonight?
May 02 03:39:49 <Zamorak>	I am :o
May 02 03:39:51 *	sonia offers tnxman307 a cookie
May 02 03:40:02 *	tnxman307 munches cookie
May 02 03:40:09 <tnxman307>	so, who's watching the news?
May 02 03:40:11 *	Dcoetzee laughs
May 02 03:40:14 <tnxman307>	what's going on?
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May 02 03:40:52 *	Dcoetzee hugs mindspillage
May 02 03:40:59 *	mindspillage waves
May 02 03:41:00 <Dcoetzee>	Hey :-) How're you?
May 02 03:41:12 *	sonia gives mindspillage a cookie
May 02 03:41:15 *	Douche is.
May 02 03:41:26 <Dragonfly6-7>	careful, it's poisoned
May 02 03:41:53 <mindspillage>	decent. Last night played a concert for ~1000 peoploe; tonight played a concert where the audience barely outnumbered the  orchestra (but if you totaled up the years of life lived by each group, the audience outnumbers us 3 to 1)
May 02 03:42:32 <Dcoetzee>	:-)
May 02 03:42:34 <Dcoetzee>	Sounds fun
May 02 03:42:44 <Guerillero>	what do you play?
May 02 03:42:45 <mindspillage>	Apparently I can't say how may day was without making it an algebra problem. :-) How are you?
May 02 03:43:01 <mindspillage>	Guerillero: lots of things, but tonight viola, with a tango orchestra/.
May 02 03:43:09 <sonia>	oooh
May 02 03:43:39 <tnxman307>	i think they caught bin laden
May 02 03:43:42 <Guerillero>	sounds like fun
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May 02 03:43:52 <Guerillero>	wb
May 02 03:44:15 *	sonia huggles la_pianista
May 02 03:44:32 *	mindspillage waves la_pianista.
May 02 03:44:41 *	sonia waves mindspillage waving la_pianista.
May 02 03:44:43 <Douche>	BIN LADEN IS DEAD
May 02 03:44:44 *	Dcoetzee hugs la_pianista
May 02 03:44:54 <Dcoetzee>	la_pianista: How are you? :-)
May 02 03:45:02 <Dcoetzee>	Douche: That's his big announcement? Good to know :-P
May 02 03:45:14 <tnxman307>	hmm
May 02 03:45:19 <Guerillero>	That would be awesome
May 02 03:45:25 <tnxman307>	think that page should be semi-ed?
May 02 03:45:26 <tnxman307>	or wait
May 02 03:45:27 <sonia>	quick, update WP :p
May 02 03:45:27 <tnxman307>	?
May 02 03:45:30 <Gfoley4>	you are a Douche
May 02 03:45:32 <Gfoley4>	^_^
May 02 03:45:33 <Guerillero>	lol
May 02 03:45:36 <Douche>	sonia: lol
May 02 03:45:45 <Sven_Manguard>	Douche: umm, no he isn't
May 02 03:45:53 <Sven_Manguard>	NYT would have pinged me with that
May 02 03:45:54 <Douche>	Sven_Manguard: according to CNN lol
May 02 03:46:00 <Gfoley4>	sonia: What is your source?
May 02 03:46:08 <sonia>	Gfoley4: thus far, twitter, heh
May 02 03:46:13 <Gfoley4>	:P
May 02 03:46:22 <Dcoetzee>	I'm sure his article has already been updated :-P
May 02 03:46:38 <Pilif12p>	Bin Laden is dead, Bin laden is dead!
May 02 03:46:46 <sonia>	Dcoetzee: not just yet
May 02 03:47:05 <Dcoetzee>	Yeah it was
May 02 03:47:09 <Dcoetzee>	"died May 1, 2011"
May 02 03:47:12 <sonia>	...huh
May 02 03:47:15 *	sonia slaps NZ internet
May 02 03:47:21 <Dcoetzee>	And http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden#Death
May 02 03:47:24 <sonia>	it's like impossible to huggle from here
May 02 03:47:27 <Pilif12p>	He died over a week ago
May 02 03:47:37 <Dcoetzee>	Yes the edit is wrong :-P
May 02 03:47:40 <Pilif12p>	They kept it a secret to do DNA testing... says fox news
May 02 03:47:43 <Gfoley4>	lol "Died per white house"
May 02 03:47:50 *	Dcoetzee fixes fixes
May 02 03:47:55 <Brian_S>	No
May 02 03:47:55 *	sonia fixes Dcoetzee
May 02 03:47:57 <Brian_S>	Protect
May 02 03:48:01 <Dcoetzee>	Somebody already fixed.
May 02 03:48:03 <sonia>	Brian_S:  it is silverlocked already
May 02 03:48:05 *	la_pianista huggles sonia, mindspillage, dcoetzee, douche, Sven_Manguard...is that everyone?
May 02 03:48:06 <Dcoetzee>	Already semiprotected.
May 02 03:48:09 <Guerillero>	full protect the page
May 02 03:48:12 *	Douche huggles la_pianista 
May 02 03:48:13 <Dcoetzee>	la_pianista: Yup :-)
May 02 03:48:17 <Brian_S>	Until it's been officially announced by the president take the news with a grain of salt.
May 02 03:48:18 <Douche>	la_pianista: you're in CA?
May 02 03:48:19 <Dcoetzee>	I am not pre-emptively full protecting anything :-P
May 02 03:48:26 <la_pianista>	no o.O
May 02 03:48:32 <Dcoetzee>	I wish :-P
May 02 03:48:39 <sonia>	Dcoetzee is
May 02 03:48:39 <Douche>	oh that's right
May 02 03:48:42 <Douche>	texas!
May 02 03:48:45 <Douche>	i forgot!
May 02 03:48:47 <Sven_Manguard>	This just in, Bin Laden dies in the runup to an election, changing the election, surprise?
May 02 03:48:49 *	sonia full-protects la_pianista
May 02 03:49:01 <Dcoetzee>	If she was I'd have to hang out with her then and buy her lunch and persuade her to play for me :-P
May 02 03:49:12 <sonia>	Dcoetzee:  and get lynched by her relatives
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May 02 03:49:25 *	sonia murders Ktr101
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May 02 03:49:32 <Dcoetzee>	Are they that overprotective? :-S
May 02 03:49:42 <Dcoetzee>	It's not a date :-P
May 02 03:49:42 <tnxman307>	wow... just wow
May 02 03:49:51 *	Ktr101 throws sonia at bin laden's body :D
May 02 03:49:56 <tnxman307>	well, good news, i suppose
May 02 03:50:06 <tnxman307>	good night, all
May 02 03:50:09 <Douche>	ni ni tnxman307
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May 02 03:55:20 <Franz_Kafka>	IShadowed: thanks for the link on fb
May 02 03:55:29 <IShadowed>	'welcome
May 02 03:55:35 <Douche>	yep
May 02 03:55:52 <Franz_Kafka>	now i just need the speech to start...
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May 02 03:56:35 <gabrielf>	yeah they've been delayed a half hour now
May 02 03:56:46 <Headbomb>	bin laden dead
May 02 03:56:55 <Franz_Kafka>	Headbomb: so they say!
May 02 03:56:59 <MuZemike>	U-S-A!!! U-S-A!!! U-S-A!!! U-S-A!!!
May 02 03:57:00 <Headbomb>	obviously Obama is a terrorist-sympathizer
May 02 03:57:05 <Franz_Kafka>	obv.
May 02 03:57:07 <IShadowed>	"Bin Laden died of old age, we have the body. Let's claim Castro next."
May 02 03:57:07 <Herodotean>	Sven_Manguard: Because Donald Trump was a strong contender for the presidency, right? ;-)
May 02 03:57:08 <IShadowed>	rofl
May 02 03:57:13 <IShadowed>	Is bastique here?
May 02 03:57:15 <IShadowed>	Guess not
May 02 03:57:17 <MauchoEagle>	what the fuck man
May 02 03:57:35 <MuZemike>	To say the least, Bin Laden's article is now full-protected for a little bit
May 02 03:57:38 <MauchoEagle>	an admin just imposed a full protection on the Osama bin Laden article
May 02 03:57:43 <Headbomb>	Bin Laden's death is more proof democrats are lax on terrorism
May 02 03:58:08 <IShadowed>	Because Headbomb is totally a republican
May 02 03:58:12 <Headbomb>	nah
May 02 03:58:13 <Gfoley4>	wow, it's been full protected
May 02 03:58:21 <Gfoley4>	until February 2012
May 02 03:58:24 <IShadowed>	XD
May 02 03:58:27 <sonia>	...
May 02 03:58:33 <MauchoEagle>	MuZemike could you please remove this or change it until o say a couple seconds from now because I want to edit it
May 02 03:58:34 <sonia>	that's... a long time
May 02 03:58:37 <Franz_Kafka>	Headbomb is as right-wing as they come.
May 02 03:58:43 <sonia>	MauchoEagle: {{editprotected}} is there for a reason
May 02 03:58:48 <MuZemike>	Gfoley4: I think it was already semi-protected, and it was just upgraded.
May 02 03:59:00 <Headbomb>	if Bin Laden is dead, now people will say you have to pull out of Afghanistan
May 02 03:59:01 <gabrielf>	listening to c-span's gossip from the white house correspondents dinner while they wait for the press conference to start
May 02 03:59:04 <sonia>	it was already semied yeah
May 02 03:59:06 <Headbomb>	thus stopping the war on terror
May 02 03:59:12 <gabrielf>	apparently sarah palin seemed to enjoy herself last night
May 02 03:59:14 <Pilif12p>	not really
May 02 03:59:22 <Pilif12p>	there's still the rest of the taliban to worry about
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May 02 03:59:34 <Pilif12p>	and all of the other extremests...
May 02 03:59:44 <Headbomb>	exactly, by killing Bin Laden, you someone else will step in
May 02 03:59:44 <gabrielf>	I don't think bin laden's been involved with anything operationally for a long time
May 02 03:59:54 <Headbomb>	thus create new Bin Ladens
May 02 03:59:58 <MauchoEagle>	No there is no fucjking for an admin to impose freaking full protection until next year
May 02 04:00:13 <MauchoEagle>	*fucking
May 02 04:00:27 <Gfoley4>	Ask on his talk page
May 02 04:00:30 <Headbomb>	Obama wants Afghanistan to become a Bin Laden factory!
May 02 04:00:42 <Headbomb>	why else would they kill him?
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May 02 04:00:52 <archanamiya>	What's everyone saying?
May 02 04:01:11 <Herodotean>	Headbomb is trying to troll but not doing a very good job of it.
May 02 04:01:18 *	Herodotean is now known as Herodotus
May 02 04:01:26 <archanamiya>	anyone talking aboot Osama getting pwn'd?
May 02 04:01:28 <MuZemike>	Just like World War II with Hitler, killing bin Laden is every American's dream.
May 02 04:01:31 <Headbomb>	I'm having fun, and having a very good job at that
May 02 04:01:32 <MuZemike>	*was
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May 02 04:01:38 <MuZemike>	Well, most
May 02 04:01:44 <MuZemike>	OK, somne
May 02 04:01:44 <geniice>	The US is in possession of Bin Laden's body, the reports say.
May 02 04:01:46 <MauchoEagle>	Gfoley4:If I ask on his talk page there will be cursing
May 02 04:01:47 <geniice>	interesting
May 02 04:01:48 <archanamiya>	tes
May 02 04:01:51 <archanamiya>	word around town
May 02 04:02:03 <archanamiya>	so was it a missle or a bomb?
May 02 04:02:08 <geniice>	wouldn't have been easy to get it out of Pakistan
May 02 04:02:15 <archanamiya>	mhm
May 02 04:02:16 <archanamiya>	so was it a missle or a bomb?
May 02 04:02:19 <geniice>	archanamiya natural causes
May 02 04:02:26 <Gfoley4>	o:
May 02 04:02:28 <Dcoetzee>	Killing bin Laden isn't actually very useful - terrorist cells are already organised to be resistant to deaths of leaders.
May 02 04:02:32 <archanamiya>	geniice: word around town is it was amzericans
May 02 04:02:33 <Dcoetzee>	But it's a symbolic gesture.
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May 02 04:02:36 <Dcoetzee>	And Obama wants the credit.
May 02 04:02:39 <archanamiya>	Dcoetzee: exactly
May 02 04:02:42 <archanamiya>	well
May 02 04:02:46 <Gfoley4>	GOD DAMN, 10 edit conflicts in a row
May 02 04:02:52 <Gfoley4>	fuck this
May 02 04:02:52 <Guerillero>	this should help 2012
May 02 04:02:56 <archanamiya>	haha
May 02 04:02:58 <archanamiya>	Guerillero: lol
May 02 04:03:00 <Guerillero>	lol
May 02 04:03:17 <MauchoEagle>	Gfoley$ I am on my knees please downgrade to semiprotection
May 02 04:03:20 <archanamiya>	so now we're gonna have someone else to have to constantly hate?
May 02 04:03:23 <Guerillero>	I got the man GWB couldn't get
May 02 04:03:24 <MauchoEagle>	*Gfoley4
May 02 04:03:35 <Gfoley4>	ask the admin
May 02 04:03:47 <archanamiya>	geniice: looks like it was a US attack
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May 02 04:03:57 <Guerillero>	every admin is editing
May 02 04:04:04 <geniice>	archanamiya Ayman al-Zawahiri is still alive. and he's the smart one
May 02 04:04:08 <Dcoetzee>	Full protection is *fine*
May 02 04:04:11 <archanamiya>	geniice: yup
May 02 04:04:14 <Dcoetzee>	Admins are actively editing and watching the talk page.
May 02 04:04:24 <archanamiya>	geniice: it's a less catchy name though :P
May 02 04:04:37 <MauchoEagle>	hell no it is not fine
May 02 04:04:39 <MuZemike>	I'll try to correct that age of death (it says 54-55) or whatever
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May 02 04:04:48 <MuZemike>	I have a hard time loading the page, as expected.
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May 02 04:04:55 *	mindspillage may be slightly dense, but fails to see how this has anything but symbolic importance at this point. Not that people don't put too much stock in symbols.
May 02 04:05:01 <Dragonfly6-7>	if bin-laden is dead, how soon until Fox News starts saying that Obama is wrong for killing him because he should have been captured in order to have a trial.?
May 02 04:05:10 <geniice>	mindspillage thats pretty much the point
May 02 04:05:10 <Gfoley4>	lol
May 02 04:05:10 <Guerillero>	lol
May 02 04:05:16 <archanamiya>	Dragonfly6-7: about 5 minutes xD
May 02 04:05:21 <Guerillero>	he is a maryter now
May 02 04:05:25 <Headbomb>	Dragonfly6-7: nah, they'll blaming for giving pacifists an excuse to end the war
May 02 04:05:28 <archanamiya>	mindspillage: nono, americans do xD
May 02 04:05:29 <MauchoEagle>	Constructive editors like you and my self should be able to edit the fucking page
May 02 04:05:30 <MauchoEagle>	How freaking fine is that
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May 02 04:05:33 <Headbomb>	*blame him
May 02 04:05:46 <Guerillero>	and that is the worst thing that could happen
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May 02 04:05:51 <MuZemike>	Blame the Republicans
May 02 04:05:53 <mindspillage>	archanamiya: if only that were so....
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May 02 04:06:03 <archanamiya>	mindspillage: oh, the stupid ones do
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May 02 04:06:06 <Guerillero>	irc is filling up
May 02 04:06:08 *	MuZemike still cannot bring up bin Laden's WP article
May 02 04:06:12 <archanamiya>	Guerillero: it's awesome
May 02 04:06:15 <archanamiya>	MuZemike: really?
May 02 04:06:18 <MuZemike>	Nope
May 02 04:06:19 <geniice>	mindspillage it also neutralises the last vestige of al-Qaeda as global organisation
May 02 04:06:22 <GorillaWarfare>	Are we waiting for the press conference to definitively say he's dead?
May 02 04:06:24 <mindspillage>	there there would only be about 300 million people to worry about doing that rather than ~7 billion. :-P
May 02 04:06:29 <Guerillero>	I think so
May 02 04:06:33 <archanamiya>	mindspillage: hehe
May 02 04:06:35 <barts1a>	Osama is dead? By actionable US intelligance? FUCK YEAH!
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May 02 04:06:41 <Guerillero>	it should be comming soon GW
May 02 04:06:42 <HelloAnnyong>	'merica, fuck yeah!
May 02 04:06:42 <archanamiya>	GorillaWarfare: it really looks like he is
May 02 04:06:45 <GorillaWarfare>	Alright. All the news agencies are saying it's a sure thing, so...
May 02 04:06:48 <GorillaWarfare>	Yeah, my point
May 02 04:06:56 <Dcoetzee>	The funny thing about this is that the US has killed or captured plenty of other equally important terrorist leaders.
May 02 04:06:57 <archanamiya>	GorillaWarfare: we're just waiting for "offical" confirmation
May 02 04:07:01 <archanamiya>	Dcoetzee: yup
May 02 04:07:02 <Dcoetzee>	But nobody gave a fuck about them :-P
May 02 04:07:04 <archanamiya>	Dcoetzee: but not as noteable
May 02 04:07:07 <archanamiya>	Dcoetzee: lol :P
May 02 04:07:08 <barts1a>	if Obama is giving an address on it that it's gotta be true
May 02 04:07:11 <GorillaWarfare>	We have a "This article is about a person who has recently died." on the article, which is a bit inconsistent...
May 02 04:07:18 <archanamiya>	Ding Dong! Osama's dead. Which old Terrorist? The Wicked Fag! Ding Dong! The Wicked Osama is dead.
May 02 04:07:19 <archanamiya>	lol
May 02 04:07:25 <MuZemike>	America. Fuck Yeah! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI
May 02 04:07:26 <archanamiya>	GorillaWarfare: hm?
May 02 04:07:27 <Ironholds>	why are people making a big fuss of this?
May 02 04:07:32 <archanamiya>	Ironholds: cause he's a loser
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May 02 04:07:39 <barts1a>	Ironholds: 9/11
May 02 04:07:44 <Gfoley4>	unprotected now
May 02 04:07:44 <Headbomb>	symbolism etc...
May 02 04:07:48 <MauchoEagle>	and even duh Ironholds
May 02 04:07:48 <Gfoley4>	run... run
May 02 04:07:48 <Dcoetzee>	Ironholds: Because in the US, the mass media uses bin Laden as a symbol of anti-US terrorists.
May 02 04:07:50 <barts1a>	Osama is the guy behind it
May 02 04:07:55 *	Ironholds headdesks
May 02 04:07:56 <Dcoetzee>	Ironholds: They portray him as the primary leader.
May 02 04:07:57 <archanamiya>	it's Obama's one chance to be awesome, and he's LATE
May 02 04:07:58 <MauchoEagle>	what kind of question is that
May 02 04:08:03 <barts1a>	He is/was the most wanted man in the world
May 02 04:08:04 <mindspillage>	The real fun question is who we're going to use as our bogeyman now.
May 02 04:08:18 <Guerillero>	no idea
May 02 04:08:19 <Dcoetzee>	He's kinda the Hitler of terrorists.
May 02 04:08:20 <Headbomb>	archanamiya: that's because Obama is crying because they killed his friend, obv.
May 02 04:08:22 <Guerillero>	there is number 2
May 02 04:08:27 <geniice>	Al-Qaeda leader Bin Laden 'dead'
May 02 04:08:27 <Ironholds>	barts1a, saying that Obama is the guy who runs Al-Quaeda is like saying that POTUS led the Wako siege
May 02 04:08:28 <Dcoetzee>	Except with less actual central control.
May 02 04:08:29 <archanamiya>	Headbomb: hehehe
May 02 04:08:30 <geniice>	Love the BBC
May 02 04:08:38 <Ironholds>	he was a pensioner with kidney issues who made rambling videos
May 02 04:08:43 <Ironholds>	AKA the population of Florida
May 02 04:08:46 <archanamiya>	Ironholds: lmao lol
May 02 04:08:52 <Dcoetzee>	Heh
May 02 04:08:56 <archanamiya>	Ding Dong! Osama's dead. Which old Terrorist? The Wicked Fag! Ding Dong! The Wicked Osama is dead.
May 02 04:09:04 <Ironholds>	if you honestly think he hadnled the day to day stuff you're idiots
May 02 04:09:07 <Ironholds>	archanamiya, shut up
May 02 04:09:15 <archanamiya>	Prez campaign 2012: Obama killed bin Laden. Trump has only killed that lame debate about birth certificates.
May 02 04:09:17 <archanamiya>	Ironholds: hehe
May 02 04:09:21 <archanamiya>	Ironholds: it's a satire
May 02 04:09:26 <Dcoetzee>	archanamiya: Standard warning, some people may take offense to use of the secondary definition of "fag" to mean "a bad/stupid person" :-P
May 02 04:09:32 <archanamiya>	Dcoetzee: hehe
May 02 04:09:36 <archanamiya>	of course, my apologies
May 02 04:09:39 <archanamiya>	*loser
May 02 04:09:39 <archanamiya>	xD
May 02 04:09:42 <barts1a>	Ding Dong! The fag is dead. Which old fag? The Wicked fag! Ding Dong! Osama Bin is dead!
May 02 04:09:48 <Ironholds>	barts1a, shut it
May 02 04:09:49 <geniice>	Ironholds tapes more than videos
May 02 04:09:51 <archanamiya>	"Prez campaign 2012: Obama killed bin Laden. Trump has only killed that lame debate about birth certificates."
May 02 04:09:54 <Dragonfly6-7>	barts1a - seriously.
May 02 04:10:05 <archanamiya>	barts1a: :/
May 02 04:10:08 <barts1a>	jeez... satire
May 02 04:10:10 <Guerillero>	there is a article now
May 02 04:10:24 <Guerillero>	who wants to AfD it :P
May 02 04:10:46 <archanamiya>	looks like he was killed in a mansion outside of Islamabad, Pakistan
May 02 04:10:49 <MuZemike>	Hopefully, I can get that death age fixed
May 02 04:10:51 <Headbomb>	NBC: "... The European countries of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan..."  ?
May 02 04:11:10 <GorillaWarfare>	It was just confirmed by Biden
May 02 04:11:12 <gabrielf>	arch- where are you getting that? CNN is saying afghanistan
May 02 04:11:21 <archanamiya>	gabrielf: AP
May 02 04:11:27 <archanamiya>	Associated Press
May 02 04:11:31 <Guerillero>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden
May 02 04:11:35 <archanamiya>	looks like it's been confirmed by DNA
May 02 04:11:38 <Mitchazenia>	Yeah Islamabad, Pakistan is what I am hearing
May 02 04:11:44 <Guerillero>	semi it please
May 02 04:11:52 <geniice>	archanamiya if the US has the body then yes
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May 02 04:11:58 <archanamiya>	geniice: mhm
May 02 04:12:00 <gabrielf>	tx
May 02 04:12:00 <Prodego>	Guerillero: specify a reason?
May 02 04:12:08 <archanamiya>	Prodego: US attack
May 02 04:12:12 <archanamiya>	bomb/drone/missle
May 02 04:12:15 <archanamiya>	it's not very exact
May 02 04:12:21 <Prodego>	not that reason
May 02 04:12:22 <archanamiya>	but it was a US attack
May 02 04:12:24 <barts1a>	Actionable US intellegence is all they are confirming
May 02 04:12:40 <archanamiya>	it was in a mansion
May 02 04:12:42 <archanamiya>	we have that
May 02 04:13:14 <geniice>	stand by for AP articles moaning that we got all the traffic
May 02 04:13:18 <archanamiya>	geniice: hehe
May 02 04:13:22 <Gfoley4>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden :|
May 02 04:13:25 <Gfoley4>	pathetic
May 02 04:13:26 <archanamiya>	Gfoley4: :/
May 02 04:13:38 <archanamiya>	Gfoley4: we've known for less than an hour
May 02 04:13:42 <aleichem>	http://www.whitehouse.gov/live - beginning shortly
May 02 04:13:44 <archanamiya>	and still have no "official" confirmation
May 02 04:13:59 <archanamiya>	aleichem: there's a CNN feed too, pretty much every news site actually
May 02 04:14:03 <GorillaWarfare>	archanamiya: Biden did just confirm -- that's not official?
May 02 04:14:09 <archanamiya>	GorillaWarfare: did he?
May 02 04:14:12 <archanamiya>	that's official then xD
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May 02 04:14:17 <archanamiya>	i meant obama
May 02 04:14:22 <barts1a>	Obama will comfirm soon
May 02 04:14:23 <GorillaWarfare>	Yes, according to CNN, he did
May 02 04:14:32 <archanamiya>	lol i fox news guy said "Obama's dead"
May 02 04:14:35 <archanamiya>	*a
May 02 04:14:41 <geniice>	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10318089
May 02 04:14:43 <gabrielf>	poor ghaddafi must be pissed that everyone is going to ignore his son's death now
May 02 04:14:48 <archanamiya>	gabrielf: haha
May 02 04:14:50 <barts1a>	AFAIK Osama is dead
May 02 04:14:52 <archanamiya>	barts1a: he IS
May 02 04:14:59 <archanamiya>	no word on how yet
May 02 04:15:04 <archanamiya>	but it looks like a US attack
May 02 04:15:11 <NA_0>	I mixed up biden and bin laden for a moment XD
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May 02 04:15:22 <archanamiya>	NA_0: hehe
May 02 04:15:30 <gabrielf>	NYT says it was a "targetted assault" whatever that means
May 02 04:15:36 <barts1a>	They say it was done by "Actionable US intelligance"\
May 02 04:15:57 <geniice>	CIA
May 02 04:16:07 <archanamiya>	any word on the US being IN pakistan
May 02 04:16:09 <archanamiya>	?
May 02 04:16:12 <Guerillero>	its going to be a high trafic page in 10 minutes or less
May 02 04:16:12 <barts1a>	A CIA drone apparantly
May 02 04:16:20 <archanamiya>	any word on the US being IN pakistan?
May 02 04:16:27 <archanamiya>	a drone would make sense, they've done taht before
May 02 04:16:28 <geniice>	gabrielf it was one of ghaddafi's more minor sons. the nighclubs of europe will morn his passing though
May 02 04:16:37 <Guerillero>	lol
May 02 04:16:46 <geniice>	archanamiya CIA have ground forces in  Pakistan
May 02 04:16:52 <archanamiya>	geniice: ok
May 02 04:17:14 <aleichem>	us intelligence? does that exists? what iq is that?
May 02 04:17:14 <archanamiya>	hurry up obama
May 02 04:17:16 <archanamiya>	so late
May 02 04:17:19 <gabrielf>	oh well I'm sure there will be plenty more rich arab kids to take his place
May 02 04:17:22 <archanamiya>	aleichem: dahaha
May 02 04:17:36 <geniice>	archanamiya there have been reports of Pakistani forces making raids while CIA sat outside in their car
May 02 04:17:44 <archanamiya>	geniice: wow
May 02 04:17:58 <barts1a>	ABC (Australia) News 24 is doing an interview with a guy who met Osama
May 02 04:18:06 <barts1a>	over phone
May 02 04:18:07 <archanamiya>	best plan: hide outside a major city, in a nice house. it's pretty genius when you think about it
May 02 04:18:21 <barts1a>	And we all thought it was a cave in the desert
May 02 04:18:24 <archanamiya>	they all expected him to be in a cave in the moutains
May 02 04:18:27 <archanamiya>	barts1a: exactly
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May 02 04:19:16 <geniice>	archanamiya some interesting people have been found in the cities however it's generally assumed that the ISI knew they were there and have been supporting them
May 02 04:19:30 <archanamiya>	geniice: of course :P
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May 02 04:19:35 <gabrielf>	KSM was in a big city I think
May 02 04:19:37 <archanamiya>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden <--- "seized" the body?
May 02 04:19:42 <archanamiya>	gabrielf: was he?
May 02 04:19:55 <gabrielf>	rawalpindi
May 02 04:20:00 <geniice>	there was a more recent taliban person
May 02 04:20:20 <archanamiya>	not bad
May 02 04:20:22 <gabrielf>	which I think is the headquarters of the pakistani army and ISI
May 02 04:20:34 <archanamiya>	prisoners escape in Afghanistan
May 02 04:20:34 <archanamiya>	Osama gets off'd
May 02 04:20:35 <barts1a>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV7Ha3VDbzE
May 02 04:20:36 <archanamiya>	good timing
May 02 04:21:20 <geniice>	that leaves Ayman al-Zawahiri and mullah Omar
May 02 04:21:25 <archanamiya>	"The documents sited Khalid saying that, if Osama Bin Laden is captured or killed by the Coalition of the Willing, an Al-Qaeda sleeper cell will detonate a "weapon of mass destruction" in a "secret location" in Europe, and promised it would be "a nuclear hellstorm"."
May 02 04:21:53 <archanamiya>	lol "sited?"
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May 02 04:22:04 <gabrielf>	i'm sure if they could do that they would have already
May 02 04:22:16 *	Jeske_Couriano trots into the room
May 02 04:22:22 <slon02>	it's a good thing I don't live in Europe
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May 02 04:22:31 <archanamiya>	slon02: hehe
May 02 04:22:33 <archanamiya>	gabrielf: true
May 02 04:22:55 <archanamiya>	gabrielf: mind games
May 02 04:23:24 <archanamiya>	Worldwide governments being told to increase security
May 02 04:23:35 <slon02>	can we do a reliability check on those sources?
May 02 04:23:36 <Ironholds>	no shit, sherlock
May 02 04:23:38 <barts1a>	in case of a backlash
May 02 04:23:49 *	MuZemike waves the red, white, & blue overhead
May 02 04:23:56 *	Ironholds sighs
May 02 04:24:06 <Ironholds>	can I make a quick point?
May 02 04:24:21 <HelloAnnyong>	does it involve funny hats?
May 02 04:24:33 <Ironholds>	your special forces, with their oodles of resources and training, have managed to kill a crippled pensioner who has to have dialysis twice a week
May 02 04:24:34 <archanamiya>	Pakistan officials confirming he was killed in Pakistan
May 02 04:24:40 *	Logan_ prepares for a 10-page dissertation written on the spot by Ironholds
May 02 04:24:48 <archanamiya>	fbi.gov is down :P
May 02 04:24:49 <Ironholds>	this is after he evaded said special forces for NINE YEARS, the soldiers being deceived by a JEEP AND A MOBILE PHONE
May 02 04:24:53 <Jeske_Couriano>	Ironholds) After trying - and failing - for *TEN YEARS*
May 02 04:24:55 <MuZemike>	lol
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May 02 04:24:58 <Ironholds>	it is NOT THAT IMPRESSIVE AN ACHIEVEMENT
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May 02 04:25:02 <MuZemike>	@ the FBI's website
May 02 04:25:05 <archanamiya>	Ironholds: haha
May 02 04:25:12 <archanamiya>	MuZemike: :P
May 02 04:25:21 <HelloAnnyong>	Ironholds: we also kick old ladies in the park.
May 02 04:25:26 <archanamiya>	IMMA SAY IT NOW
May 02 04:25:28 <Jeske_Couriano>	Ironholds) It is, because our Special Forces are indeed special forces.
May 02 04:25:30 <archanamiya>	INB4 SHITSTORM
May 02 04:25:42 <Ironholds>	Jeske_Couriano: of the special needs variety, yes
May 02 04:25:42 <slon02>	fbi.gov isn't down
May 02 04:25:44 <Ironholds>	archanamiya, calm down
May 02 04:25:54 <archanamiya>	i g2g gents
May 02 04:25:54 <Jeske_Couriano>	Ironholds) That's what I meant. ;)
May 02 04:25:55 <archanamiya>	pce
May 02 04:26:06 <aleichem>	no caps plz
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May 02 04:26:16 <topaz>	wait, what?
May 02 04:26:23 <Dcoetzee>	Oh theirony
May 02 04:26:25 <slon02>	should we submit a tip  to the FBI on their website telling them that he's dead, or can they figure it out themselves?
May 02 04:26:34 <geniice>	Ironholds the  dialysis claim is kinda questionable
May 02 04:26:41 <Dcoetzee>	Bureaucracy moves slowly
May 02 04:26:44 <topaz>	so the U.S. has Prince Willaim in custody?
May 02 04:26:51 <Ironholds>	geniice: so at best, it took them a decade to kill a *sprightly* pensioner
May 02 04:26:55 *	MuZemike forgot about "We Are the Champions"
May 02 04:26:59 <geniice>	Ironholds and since when was 50s pensioner
May 02 04:26:59 <Headbomb>	Prince William gay-married Bin Laden
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May 02 04:27:08 <aleichem>	@slon02 try the yellow pages
May 02 04:27:09 <Gfoley4>	lol http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26619931/RS1146.png
May 02 04:27:13 <Headbomb>	therefore the US is declaring war on the UK
May 02 04:27:16 <gabrielf>	its hard to find one guy in a country of 100 million+
May 02 04:27:35 <Headbomb>	lol @ Gfoley4
May 02 04:27:48 <gabrielf>	looks like obama is going to speak in 2 minutes
May 02 04:28:14 <topaz>	anyone still have any doubts about Obama getting re-elected in 2012?
May 02 04:28:17 <gabrielf>	they had to tell all the bigshots first
May 02 04:28:17 <geniice>	Gfoley4 Mullah Omar and are still going
May 02 04:28:26 <MuZemike>	Ironically, "We Are the Champions" is from a British band, though (that is what people I hear are also singing right now)
May 02 04:28:33 <GorillaWarfare>	If we're prodding [[Death of Osama bin Laden]], should we remove {{main|Death of Osama bin Laden}}?
May 02 04:28:36 <barts1a>	topaz: With this it's an almost certainty
May 02 04:28:43 <Headbomb>	how sad is it that I'm waiting to see how FOX will spin this against Obama
May 02 04:28:48 <Logan_>	GorillaWarfare: not 'till it's deleted, most likely
May 02 04:28:50 <gabrielf>	never mind, apparently that was a "false" two minute warning
May 02 04:28:52 <MuZemike>	That article is going to be kept, once created.
May 02 04:28:53 <Jeske_Couriano>	Headbomb) They can't.
May 02 04:28:58 <Logan_>	MuZemike: Queen is awesome
May 02 04:29:03 <Headbomb>	Jeske_Couriano: watch them
May 02 04:29:24 <topaz>	Headbomb: "Obama fails to catch Bin Laden for more than two years"
May 02 04:29:25 <Jeske_Couriano>	Headbomb) If they do they'll end up damaging Republicans more.
May 02 04:29:26 <Headbomb>	They spun Canada's response to Katrina as an attempt to make Bush look bad
May 02 04:29:43 <Guerillero>	don't waste the PROD
May 02 04:29:51 <Logan_>	the PROD was removed
May 02 04:29:54 <Jeske_Couriano>	Remember, Bush failed to catch him during his whole presidency
May 02 04:30:00 <barts1a>	Meanwhile in other news: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/loud-bang-shakes-mine-workers-qantas-fifo-flight/story-e6frf7jx-1226048321513
May 02 04:30:09 <Headbomb>	They can spin Obama killing bin Laden as an attempt to want a new more active successor
May 02 04:30:21 <Headbomb>	and turning Afghanistan into a Bin Laden factory
May 02 04:30:26 <aleichem>	wikislow
May 02 04:30:33 <MuZemike>	Perhaps I can follow up with listening to "Another One Bites the Dust" :)
May 02 04:31:03 <Headbomb>	and giving pacifists an excuse to pull out of Afghanistan/Iraq/Pakistan, thus leaving them free to create more terrorists
May 02 04:31:06 <gabrielf>	interesting, they are saying it was special forces - not a drone strike
May 02 04:31:16 <Guerillero>	the vandals are coming in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden
May 02 04:31:29 <Jeske_Couriano>	Slap a Semi on it
May 02 04:31:36 <Guerillero>	it was done
May 02 04:31:45 <barts1a>	good
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May 02 04:33:01 <MuZemike>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OaSIK6sPIY
May 02 04:33:38 <Prodego>	most of the ip edits weren't vandalism
May 02 04:33:48 <barts1a>	US white house stream just went from the placeholder
May 02 04:34:11 <slon02>	it's the podium!
May 02 04:34:12 <gabrielf>	supposed to be 2 minutes from announcement now
May 02 04:34:23 <Brian_S>	They're saying it was JASOC
May 02 04:34:29 <gabrielf>	JSOC
May 02 04:34:35 <Brian_S>	Whatever
May 02 04:34:38 <Brian_S>	Oh
May 02 04:34:38 <Brian_S>	:P
May 02 04:34:41 <Brian_S>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Special_Operations_Command
May 02 04:34:42 <Brian_S>	:D
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May 02 04:35:16 <Logan_>	he's approaching the podium
May 02 04:35:18 <GorillaWarfare>	Here he comes
May 02 04:35:20 <Brian_S>	Here he is.
May 02 04:35:22 <aleichem>	i don't wanna spoil your party but do you think one will be rid of the rest of the cockroaches now?
May 02 04:35:29 <Gfoley4>	here he comes
May 02 04:35:30 <MuZemike>	Here we go
May 02 04:35:32 <barts1a>	YAY!
May 02 04:35:32 <Logan_>	"Good the U.S. did it!
May 02 04:35:32 <aleichem>	white house now
May 02 04:35:35 <GorillaWarfare>	Aaaand we got it
May 02 04:36:02 <Pilif12p>	confirmed
May 02 04:36:13 <Pilif12p>	he's dead
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May 02 04:36:40 <Headbomb>	Jeske_Couriano: most likely they will give flak to Obama for having waited a few days before making the announcement to polish his teleprompter speech or something
May 02 04:37:02 <Gfoley4>	here the news, BarkingFish?
May 02 04:37:04 <Gfoley4>	*hear
May 02 04:37:09 <geniice>	bla bla bla we don't need a 9/11 recap we want to know how Osama bin Laden was taken down
May 02 04:37:15 <Logan_>	heh
May 02 04:37:18 <BarkingFish>	Gfoley4: you bet
May 02 04:37:20 <Logan_>	you knew it was coming
May 02 04:37:24 <Gfoley4>	:D
May 02 04:37:24 <Logan_>	geniice: ^
May 02 04:37:28 <BarkingFish>	Watching the feed from the White House now
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May 02 04:37:50 <Sven_Manguard>	Jeske_Couriano: PM me please
May 02 04:38:46 <aleichem>	its a nice sequence - 1. birth cert - 2. press party 3. this now
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May 02 04:39:22 <MuZemike>	"Pockistan"
May 02 04:39:31 <Logan_>	abadabad?
May 02 04:39:42 <aleichem>	abababad?
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May 02 04:39:46 <Logan_>	Abbottabad
May 02 04:39:57 <Logan_>	time to semi-protect that article :P
May 02 04:40:17 <aleichem>	semi - rollback to 3 hours ago or so
May 02 04:40:32 <Logan_>	hah, Bush
May 02 04:40:44 <slon02>	why rollback?
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May 02 04:40:50 <Logan_>	"Yo bitches I got here first ya heard. "
May 02 04:40:52 <gabrielf>	already vandalized
May 02 04:41:21 <slon02>	I don't think it'll get hit a lot
May 02 04:41:22 <Logan_>	Prodego: can we get a semi on that?
May 02 04:41:24 <Logan_>	or GorillaWarfare
May 02 04:41:24 <slon02>	most people can't spell it
May 02 04:41:27 <Logan_>	slon02: it's already started
May 02 04:41:37 <GorillaWarfare>	Semi on what?
May 02 04:41:41 <slon02>	strike that, people are smarter than I thought
May 02 04:41:52 <aleichem>	what people?
May 02 04:42:11 <GorillaWarfare>	Oh, nm
May 02 04:42:13 <GorillaWarfare>	*nvm
May 02 04:42:14 <Logan_>	awesome, NW already did it
May 02 04:42:16 <slon02>	vandals
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May 02 04:44:01 <geniice>	we have a date of the hit do we have a location?
May 02 04:44:11 <aleichem>	amrica can do whatever we set our mind on?
May 02 04:44:13 <Krimpet>	He died in Abbottabad, per Obama.
May 02 04:44:15 <GorillaWarfare>	Abottabad?
May 02 04:44:19 <slon02>	Abbottabad
May 02 04:44:29 <Brian_S>	%B
May 02 04:44:30 <Brian_S>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbottabad
May 02 04:44:32 <Brian_S>	>_>
May 02 04:44:38 <aleichem>	healtcare for all
May 02 04:44:50 <MuZemike>	Amen.
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May 02 04:44:55 <barts1a>	that's it
May 02 04:45:24 <MuZemike>	Victory fanfare! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OaSIK6sPIY
May 02 04:45:59 <slon02>	they didn't want to take him alive?
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May 02 04:46:20 <aleichem>	don wanna get dirty hands
May 02 04:46:23 <Logan_>	damn, even the confirmed users are starting to edit Abbottabad
May 02 04:46:25 <gabrielf>	8-month long process
May 02 04:46:26 <Logan_>	without reliable sources
May 02 04:46:33 <slon02>	then again, I can imagine the temptation for terrorists..attacking the place where Osama is being held captive
May 02 04:46:33 <Jeske_Couriano>	*trrrrr*DOOT DOOT DOOT DOOOOOO DOOOOO DOOOOO DOOT DOO DOOO~!
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May 02 04:47:19 <aleichem>	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1243411/Pictured-FBI-releases-age-enhanced-images-bin-Laden.html
May 02 04:47:32 <NA_0>	I found a way that editing a page and pressing save without changing anything can still show up as an edit!
May 02 04:47:42 <barts1a>	WP:SNOW? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden#Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden
May 02 04:47:44 <Headbomb>	on the plus side
May 02 04:47:55 <Headbomb>	people will shut up about the royal wedding now
May 02 04:48:07 <Brian_S>	Saw it, aleichem.
May 02 04:48:07 <MuZemike>	Headshot!
May 02 04:48:10 <Brian_S>	That's old news.
May 02 04:48:17 <Jeske_Couriano>	Feelings?
May 02 04:48:30 <Jeske_Couriano>	You know who has a lot of feelings?
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May 02 04:48:54 <Jeske_Couriano>	Folks what bludgeon their wives to death with a golf trophy. Professionals have %Bstandards%B.
May 02 04:48:54 <Gfoley4>	lol, the Phillies fans are cheering his death
May 02 04:49:23 <barts1a>	EVERYONE will be
May 02 04:49:33 <MuZemike>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW8ko4x5ukg
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May 02 04:50:27 <Guerillero>	do you think I am going to have high school in the morning
May 02 04:50:32 <gabrielf>	yes
May 02 04:50:33 <Jeske_Couriano>	Yes
May 02 04:50:41 <Guerillero>	hehe
May 02 04:50:43 <Logan_>	Brian_S: block that bozo who just replaced the content at Osama bin Laden, please
May 02 04:50:47 <Logan_>	Djuplina
May 02 04:50:49 <Guerillero>	I knew that
May 02 04:50:52 <Jeske_Couriano>	Whack the motherfucker
May 02 04:50:53 <Brian_S>	Blocked already.
May 02 04:50:55 <GorillaWarfare>	Who's the guy in the crowd with the "Bush/Cheney" sign? o.O
May 02 04:50:58 <geniice>	Guerillero britian has a bank holiday tomorrow
May 02 04:51:03 <Brian_S>	Thank Krimpet.
May 02 04:51:08 <aleichem>	i dont't think 1 guy less will make such a difference
May 02 04:51:10 <Jeske_Couriano>	Whip out the weapon, wax the motherfucker, deposit him directly into the colon
May 02 04:51:11 <gabrielf>	unless you tell them a close relative died
May 02 04:51:12 <geniice>	GorillaWarfare an arsehole
May 02 04:51:25 <Guerillero>	???
May 02 04:51:34 <Guerillero>	she is in here I think
May 02 04:51:45 <Logan_>	geniice: you know, putting a colon after "GorillaWarfare" would make that statement a lot less ambiguous :P
May 02 04:51:57 <GorillaWarfare>	:D
May 02 04:51:57 <MuZemike>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=427004833&oldid=427004717
May 02 04:52:05 <SpitfireWP>	geniice, heh.
May 02 04:52:14 <Logan_>	MuZemike: already blocked
May 02 04:52:23 <MuZemike>	Speaking of that, where's [[User:JI Hawkins]] at, to say that bin Laden was killed by Colonel Sanders?
May 02 04:52:26 <barts1a>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Djuplina
May 02 04:52:44 <Jeske_Couriano>	MuZemike) That's not part of Hawkins' MO
May 02 04:53:02 <slon02>	Is Sky News a reliable source?
May 02 04:53:03 <Jeske_Couriano>	Hawkins' MO is one half KFC and one half SCP Foundation
May 02 04:54:41 <Jeske_Couriano>	bin Laden dying is too mundane
May 02 04:54:53 <Dragonfly6-7>	bin laden shitting himself
May 02 04:55:12 <Krimpet>	Edit of the day. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Osama_bin_Laden&action=historysubmit&diff=427005280&oldid=427005233
May 02 04:55:15 <Jeske_Couriano>	That's South Park, Dragnfly6-8
May 02 04:55:18 <Jeske_Couriano>	*6-7
May 02 04:55:19 <HelloAnnyong>	oh god
May 02 04:55:25 <HelloAnnyong>	4chan is celebrating with trannies
May 02 04:55:32 <Guerillero>	lol
May 02 04:55:39 <matthewrbowker>	LOL
May 02 04:55:47 <barts1a>	that's how they celebrate ANYTHING
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May 02 04:55:55 <Guerillero>	this is the fastest ITN I have ever seen
May 02 04:56:34 <Jeske_Couriano>	http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-series#toc2
May 02 04:56:43 <Guerillero>	lolz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Osama_bin_Laden#Edit_request_from_137.216.94.156.2C_2_May_2011
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May 02 04:57:15 <Logan_>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Osama_bin_Laden&diff=prev&oldid=427005525 block that mofo
May 02 04:57:28 <HelloAnnyong>	urgh
May 02 04:57:34 <HelloAnnyong>	can we sprot the talk page too?
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May 02 04:57:53 <geniice>	hmm Abbottabad just recived one heck of a profile boost
May 02 04:58:08 <gabrielf>	so I think Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC learned about Abbottabad from wikipedia
May 02 04:58:22 <Guerillero>	:D
May 02 04:58:24 <Logan_>	hehe
May 02 04:58:24 <gabrielf>	she just summarized the first two sentences of our article
May 02 04:58:25 <slon02>	and we learned about it from Andrea Mitchell
May 02 04:58:27 <geniice>	I think everyone did
May 02 04:58:32 <Logan_>	Wikipedia is awesome :)
May 02 04:58:37 <geniice>	poor James Abbott
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May 02 04:58:42 <Guerillero>	should I get on huggle?
May 02 04:58:42 <barts1a>	Relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI
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May 02 04:59:03 <HelloAnnyong>	barts1a: if you go to /b on 4ch it plays that song now.
May 02 04:59:08 <geniice>	barts1a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKg is somewhat more relivant
May 02 04:59:23 <matthewrbowker>	Guerillero: Hmmm... You may need to by the sound of it.
May 02 04:59:25 *	matthewrbowker starts Huggle.
May 02 04:59:35 <Guerillero>	ok
May 02 04:59:36 <aleichem>	bloddy h..l - someone dared to revert me
May 02 04:59:38 <Logan_>	can we get Abbottabad semi-prot'd?
May 02 04:59:40 <Logan_>	kthx
May 02 04:59:54 <Guerillero>	4chan is down
May 02 05:00:00 <Prodego>	yay
May 02 05:00:08 <barts1a>	DDoS due to high demand I think
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May 02 05:00:17 <tommorris_>	despite being what 4chan would call a Eurofag, gotta say: America Fuck Yeah
May 02 05:00:17 <Jeske_Couriano>	Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray, South Pacific, Walter Winchell, bin Laden eats boolet
May 02 05:00:35 <matthewrbowker>	Jeske_Couriano: LOL
May 02 05:00:37 <barts1a>	tommorris_ Agreed
May 02 05:00:38 <Logan_>	geniice: can you protect?
May 02 05:00:50 <barts1a>	Welll... I am in Australia
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May 02 05:01:06 <SudoGhost>	Might want to keep an eye on [[Abbottabad]] too
May 02 05:01:18 <Logan_>	SudoGhost: that's what I'm trying to convince the admins to protect :P
May 02 05:01:21 <Logan_>	semi-protected, that is
May 02 05:01:21 <SpitfireWP>	wb, GorillaWarfare. :P
May 02 05:01:22 <SudoGhost>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abbottabad&diff=427005721&oldid=427005521
May 02 05:01:41 <Guerillero>	24 RPM
May 02 05:01:44 <gabrielf>	can someone take a look at the population of Abbotabad, infobox says 27,000 in 1998 but article text says 81,000
May 02 05:01:49 <gabrielf>	and both sources are dead links
May 02 05:02:00 <SudoGhost>	Logan_, yeah, I think it would be good to semi-protect it for a few days, at least.
May 02 05:02:08 <tommorris_>	I had my first "vandalise WP from a shared IP address to piss you off" attack today.
May 02 05:02:22 <GorillaWarfare>	I'm actually heading out again, but thanks SpitfireWP :]
May 02 05:02:34 <GorillaWarfare>	Logan_: It's not semi'd?
May 02 05:02:46 <Logan_>	GorillaWarfare: no - can you do it please?
May 02 05:03:02 <Prodego>	gabrielf: http://www.census.gov.pk/NWFP/ABBOTTABAD.htm
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May 02 05:03:14 <Logan_>	thanks Gorilla
May 02 05:03:15 <GorillaWarfare>	Logan_: Yes, I just semi'd for three days
May 02 05:03:40 <slon02>	gabrielf: 1998 was 81,000
May 02 05:03:56 <gabrielf>	Prodego: there's an interesting point - it may turn out that he was killed in [[Abbottabad District]] not [[Abbotabad]] city
May 02 05:04:16 <gabrielf>	looks like there's some formatting issues at [[Abbottabad District]]
May 02 05:04:22 <geniice>	hard to say
May 02 05:04:38 <geniice>	we know he was killed in a compound which is usualy a more rural structure
May 02 05:04:57 *	KFP is now known as KFP_sleep
May 02 05:05:12 <Guerillero>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hide-and-seek&action=historysubmit&diff=427006564&oldid=426189067  the best dif ever
May 02 05:05:21 <Dragonfly6-7>	geniice - apparently 'compound' has a certain meaning in india/pakistan?
May 02 05:05:34 <SudoGhost>	Thank you GorillaWarfare
May 02 05:05:42 <GorillaWarfare>	Sure
May 02 05:05:46 <barts1a>	Guerillero: agreed
May 02 05:06:11 <SudoGhost>	Dragonfly6-7, [[Compound (enclosure)]]
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May 02 05:08:19 <geniice>	I think the issues is that the term Compound is used as result of the lack of better term for a series of adjoining buildings belonging to one extended famility with a single perimeter fence
May 02 05:09:22 <aleichem>	is this a good sort of article? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden ?? Death of xxx?
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May 02 05:09:52 <gabrielf>	its very common for people to give the name of the nearest big city or the name of the region when they are talking about an obscure place
May 02 05:09:53 <Guerillero>	the afd failed
May 02 05:10:12 <barts1a>	WP:SNOW
May 02 05:10:17 <gabrielf>	we should probably semi-protect [[Abbottabad District]] and [[Abbottabad Central]]
May 02 05:10:18 <barts1a>	need I say more
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May 02 05:11:39 <Logan_>	Guerillero: you have a talk page message
May 02 05:11:47 <tommorris_>	aleichem: I'd say that in the case of the most wanted terrorist organiser being killed by U.S forces, and Obama giving a press conference etc. kind of makes it significant
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May 02 05:12:04 <geniice>	aleichem it's survived AFD so yes
May 02 05:12:07 <Guerillero>	I see
May 02 05:12:07 <tommorris_>	I mean, we've got [[Death of Michael Jackson]]...
May 02 05:12:17 <Guerillero>	It was disruptive
May 02 05:12:28 <Guerillero>	he edited others talk comments
May 02 05:12:34 <tommorris_>	and [[Death of Diana, Princess of Wales]] and so on
May 02 05:12:37 <Guerillero>	I am waiting for signbot
May 02 05:14:42 <Headbomb>	great, the tea partiers are bashing the crowd in front of the whitehouse and elsewhere for being mindless Obama-worshippers liberal/students/etc...
May 02 05:15:01 <Guerillero>	lol
May 02 05:15:07 <Guerillero>	go figure
May 02 05:15:09 <geniice>	Headbomb also bashing them for not being black enough
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May 02 05:15:29 <Headbomb>	because obviously, they are happy Obama is getting a boost in numbers, and not that bin Laden is dead
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May 02 05:15:41 <zscout370>	from the shots I am seeing, I see a lot of Tea Party like flags (such as the Gadsden flag)
May 02 05:16:22 <Headbomb>	 also they want to see a death certificate
May 02 05:16:28 <Guerillero>	he just won 2012
May 02 05:16:55 <Headbomb>	and they bitch about the "coincidence" of the birth certificate release, white house conference dinner, and this
May 02 05:17:04 <geniice>	Guerillero I don't think so
May 02 05:17:22 <tommorris_>	if it was anything more than a coincidence, then go Obama.
May 02 05:17:24 <matthewrbowker>	Guerillero: We'll see.  A lot of analysts said that McCain won in 2008 by announcing his VP the night of Obama's speech.
May 02 05:17:49 <zscout370>	Headbomb: I seen people on my FB that are upset that it wasn't Bush that took him out and Obama even mentioned himself in the speech
May 02 05:17:50 <tommorris_>	tea party haters gonna hate
May 02 05:18:00 <slon02>	9/11 helped Bush, Osama will help Obama
May 02 05:18:06 <Headbomb>	matthewrbowker: and many more saying Obama won when McCain announced Palin as his runing mate
May 02 05:18:06 <NA_0>	ITN is broken
May 02 05:18:07 <Gfoley4>	tommorris_: :(
May 02 05:18:11 <NA_0>	On the main page
May 02 05:18:35 <Krimpet>	Obama won in 2012 the day that budget in Wisconsin was passed.
May 02 05:18:39 <Gfoley4>	NA_0 no?
May 02 05:18:44 <Gfoley4>	there is just no image
May 02 05:18:57 <NA_0>	It's fixed now
May 02 05:19:02 <tommorris_>	it'll be interesting to see how the tea party idiots spin this. how can Obama be an evil liberal socialist Muslim *and* kill Osama?
May 02 05:19:04 <Dragonfly6-7>	success has a million fathers, failure is an oprhan
May 02 05:19:38 <barts1a>	If Obama fired the bullet that killed Osama himself I would REALLY be impressed
May 02 05:19:43 <zscout370>	NA_0: the image had the wrong license, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news#OBL_image
May 02 05:20:00 <geniice>	barts1a I wouldn't. I wanted him to rot in jail but hey
May 02 05:20:01 <slon02>	"Members of Congress were briefed on the news by Vice President Joe Biden throughout the weekend, according to a Senate aide."
May 02 05:20:18 <barts1a>	geniice: They couldn't GET him into jail
May 02 05:20:33 <tommorris_>	twitter: "I kinda want Obama's 2012 campaign poster to be him, wearing sunglasses, cigarette in one hand, the head of Osama bin Laden in the other."
May 02 05:20:44 <slon02>	and if they could get him to into jail, he wouldn't stay in jail
May 02 05:20:46 <NA_0>	The problem was that the news of Bin Laden's death was indented, so it did not wrap.
May 02 05:20:51 <barts1a>	It was either put a bullet in his head (Or action that effect) or spend billions on a pointless excercise
May 02 05:20:58 <NA_0>	But, as I said, it is fixed now.
May 02 05:21:01 <geniice>	is Obama still smoking
May 02 05:21:08 <slon02>	he quit over a year ago I think
May 02 05:21:17 <geniice>	barts1a  bullet in his head is quick, rotting in jail isn't
May 02 05:21:40 <tommorris_>	another great tweet: "So when Obama said last week he had 'better stuff to do' than talk about his birth certificate... Yeah."
May 02 05:21:49 <barts1a>	whatever the case; the problem is solved now
May 02 05:22:33 <barts1a>	AFK. It's midday here
May 02 05:22:38 <Guerillero>	couldn't commons wait
May 02 05:22:54 <geniice>	for what?
May 02 05:23:01 <Guerillero>	deleting the image
May 02 05:23:09 <zscout370>	Guerillero: we had the image deleted years ago
May 02 05:23:38 <Krimpet>	Clearly Obama strategically timed this operation to drown out the news of that moronic royal wedding.
May 02 05:23:41 <zscout370>	in March of 2008 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Osama_Bin_Laden.jpg
May 02 05:24:29 <geniice>	Krimpet it was a great royal wedding, people managed to get drunk even by glasgow's standards
May 02 05:24:33 <tommorris_>	Krimpet: speaking as a Brit, I'd be very happy if that were the case.
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May 02 05:25:01 <geniice>	tommorris_ eh it's the employeers who are really pissed
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May 02 05:25:06 <zscout370>	the image that was deleted was on the en.wp side
May 02 05:25:42 <topaz>	"Sorry it took so long to get you a copy of my birth certificate..." http://i.imgur.com/KDssc.jpg
May 02 05:26:22 <closedmouth>	cue roger daltrey
May 02 05:26:54 <tommorris_>	tweet; "Nothing stops birth certificate talk like a nice death certificate."
May 02 05:27:14 <topaz>	I understand Donald Trump has already demanded to see the long-form death certificate.
May 02 05:27:23 <Krimpet>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4_eSW6D6sc ?
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May 02 05:28:51 <Logan_>	haha, there would be a WikiNews article about it
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May 02 05:30:18 <tommorris_>	Logan_: of course.
May 02 05:30:33 <tommorris_>	my first thought was "I bet nobody on Wikinews has done anything about this yet"
May 02 05:30:39 <tommorris_>	then I go on there and am pleasantly surprised
May 02 05:30:51 <Guerillero>	they are good too
May 02 05:30:53 <Guerillero>	night all
May 02 05:31:00 <slon02>	the Asian Tribune claims he was killed in Islamabad
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May 02 05:32:34 <tommorris_>	tweet: "BREAKING: US TERROR ALERT LEVEL RAISED TO "CONFETTI.""
May 02 05:32:50 <matthewrbowker>	tommorris_: LOL
May 02 05:32:53 <CR90>	RANDOM PATRIOTIC MOMENT: America wins, bitches! :D
May 02 05:32:56 <tommorris_>	Guardian have a live blog about the death - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-dead-live
May 02 05:33:31 <Headbomb>	topaz: and when he gets it , he's going to start rumors that Obama isn't a qualified Commander in Chief
May 02 05:33:40 <Headbomb>	and that he has a terrible record with terrorists
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May 02 05:35:42 <Guerillero>	bin laden is dead laura
May 02 05:35:49 <Guerillero>	Halse
May 02 05:35:54 <killiondude>	is Guerillero a bot?
May 02 05:36:04 <Guerillero>	no
May 02 05:36:12 <matthewrbowker>	huh?
May 02 05:36:32 <Guerillero>	you can check my userpage if you want
May 02 05:36:53 <Guerillero>	or the fact that I am huggleing under In actu
May 02 05:37:07 <killiondude>	I think this bot is broken.
May 02 05:37:26 <LauraHale>	Guerillero: Heard.  Saw it on CNN while at an NYC pizzareia in Auckland.
May 02 05:37:36 <LauraHale>	Life is weird. Not idea what will happen next.
May 02 05:37:45 *	Guerillero nods
May 02 05:37:59 <geniice>	hmm long term what's going to be done with Osama bin Laden's body?
May 02 05:38:05 <Guerillero>	killiondude: go away
May 02 05:38:09 <Guerillero>	no idea
May 02 05:38:20 <Guerillero>	that will be a political nightmare
May 02 05:38:23 <geniice>	saudi arabia is unlikely to accept it
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May 02 05:38:49 <matthewrbowker>	Hmmm... Cremate it?
May 02 05:39:13 <geniice>	india was able to bury the mumbai attackers secretly but I'm not sure the US would be able to do that
May 02 05:39:28 <geniice>	islamic law doesn't like Cremation
May 02 05:39:37 <slon02>	I propose hanging it in the center of NYC and burning it
May 02 05:39:42 <LauraHale>	geniice: That was my question because the politics of THAT decision and the martyr aspects.
May 02 05:39:48 <zscout370>	drawn and quarter?
May 02 05:40:02 <geniice>	zscout370 this is not the 14th century
May 02 05:40:15 <Krimpet>	Give him one of those posthumous Mormon baptisms.
May 02 05:40:20 <Guerillero>	but then It will create enemies in the mid east
May 02 05:40:45 <slon02>	hang it upside down, stone it, and burn it- go that little step more than we did with Mussolini
May 02 05:40:56 <geniice>	burried secretly buy one of the US militery's muslim chaplains might be the best bet
May 02 05:41:02 <LauraHale>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_netball  Is the wording "should" okay in the article?  Or is it unencyclopediac?
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May 02 05:41:17 <geniice>	slon02 we didn't do that to Mussolini the italians did
May 02 05:41:35 <slon02>	everyone who fights against evil is united as one
May 02 05:41:55 <zscout370>	LauraHale: I think it is fine
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May 02 05:42:00 <geniice>	LauraHale "should" is fine
May 02 05:42:05 <geniice>	slon02 not so
May 02 05:42:20 <LauraHale>	Thanks zscout370  and geniice .  I just wanted to make sure. :)
May 02 05:42:26 <slon02>	every fight is a collaborative effort
May 02 05:42:46 <geniice>	slon02 the british empire was very good at devide and rule agaist the various people fighting it
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May 02 05:43:31 <slon02>	but they remain united through a common bond that cannot be destroyed by tyrannic oppression
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May 02 05:44:29 <Dragonfly6-7>	bury bin-ladin's body in pigshit?
May 02 05:44:52 <barts1a>	That's too good for him
May 02 05:45:15 <zscout370>	I know with Muslim burials, they need to face Mecca
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May 02 05:45:45 <barts1a>	First he'll spend a year in the incinerator... Year 2: Cryogenic storage then 10 years in the room they built where robots scream at you. Then they'll bury him
May 02 05:46:21 <Headbomb>	the crowd is still going at it and it's been 2 hours now...
May 02 05:46:27 <Ironholds>	*sigh*
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May 02 05:46:49 <barts1a>	This is this generation's moon landing
May 02 05:47:01 <killiondude>	what
May 02 05:47:04 <Ironholds>	no. no it's not.
May 02 05:47:07 <barts1a>	a great achievemnt celebrated globally conducted by the US
May 02 05:47:11 <Ironholds>	it is not in any way this generation's moon landing
May 02 05:47:14 *	sonia throws barts1a out the window
May 02 05:47:24 <Ironholds>	if you think that you fail to understand both the symbolism of the moon landing and what this means
May 02 05:47:35 <Ironholds>	although if it IS this generation's moon landing..fuck it. just kill me already.
May 02 05:47:49 <Headbomb>	it's not this generation's moon landing
May 02 05:47:54 <barts1a>	what else is there to do?
May 02 05:47:55 <Headbomb>	and IH said it, if it is...fuck
May 02 05:48:07 <Ironholds>	barts1a: cure cancer. cure AIDS. Fuck the chinese premier live on television
May 02 05:48:09 <barts1a>	The defecit makes mars impossible this century
May 02 05:48:19 <Ironholds>	see the deficit cleared up. Free trade for all.
May 02 05:48:24 <Ironholds>	the elimination of the republican party
May 02 05:48:29 <Ironholds>	you want me to write a list?
May 02 05:48:29 <Headbomb>	electing Obama / getting rid of Bush felt much more of a moon landing moment than this
May 02 05:48:47 <Ironholds>	barts1a: you're actually equating the death of a pensioner with a mars landing
May 02 05:48:49 <Headbomb>	and that even doesn't compare
May 02 05:48:57 *	Ironholds headdesks
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May 02 05:49:29 <Ironholds>	one beardy fuck gets shot and suddenly everyone drops 30 IQ points
May 02 05:50:22 *	tommorris_ rather likes the fact that ObL is dead but no way is it this generation's moon landing
May 02 05:50:35 <Dragonfly6-7>	Ironholds - I'd say he's "May 2011's Moon Landing"
May 02 05:50:37 <Dragonfly6-7>	for America, anyway
May 02 05:50:47 <Dragonfly6-7>	if canada manages to elect an NDP government tomorrow, that'll be *our* moon landing
May 02 05:50:54 *	tommorris_ would rather like it if U.S. special forces would secretly off the people who say stupid shit like that.
May 02 05:51:12 <tommorris_>	Eugenics: Fuck Yeah.
May 02 05:51:16 <tommorris_>	;-)
May 02 05:51:17 <Dragonfly6-7>	and you can't cure cancer, because cancer is not one individual disease
May 02 05:51:27 <tommorris_>	cure AIDS though
May 02 05:51:32 <tommorris_>	that'd be pretty cool
May 02 05:51:52 <Headbomb>	or vaccine it
May 02 05:51:56 <tommorris_>	or cure Donald Trump.
May 02 05:52:05 <Headbomb>	*or develop a vaccine for it
May 02 05:52:14 <Headbomb>	tommorris_: time will take care of trump
May 02 05:52:17 <zscout370>	the news was describing it as our VJ Day
May 02 05:52:29 <tommorris_>	what, America's VJ day?
May 02 05:52:33 <tommorris_>	isn't that... VJ day?
May 02 05:53:21 <zscout370>	tommorris_: well, the killing of Osama and the events surrounding it was described as our victory over Japan in 1945
May 02 05:53:32 <tommorris_>	yeah, really?
May 02 05:53:35 <tommorris_>	that's kinda dumb
May 02 05:53:48 *	zscout370 shrugs
May 02 05:53:49 <tommorris_>	picking off one guy in the middle of the night is so not comparable to bombing the fuck out of two large cities
May 02 05:54:05 <Headbomb>	that is a more apt comparison
May 02 05:54:24 <Headbomb>	although that war ain't over by any strech of the imagination
May 02 05:54:47 <zscout370>	right but we didn't think at the time of bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki would have ended that war
May 02 05:55:08 <Ironholds>	pretty sure you did
May 02 05:55:16 <Ironholds>	hence why you kinda asked the japs to surrender after the first one
May 02 05:56:07 <Headbomb>	and after the second one it was pretty damned clear the japaneses didn't have much of a choice
May 02 05:56:26 <Ironholds>	zscout370: you are familiar with both the Potsdam Declaration and the president's reaction to the first bombing, right?
May 02 05:57:02 <zscout370>	Ironholds: I know Truman was begging for God's forgiveness saying "what have we done"
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May 02 05:57:20 <geniice>	looks like it actualy was Abbottabad rather than the wider Abbottabad region
May 02 05:57:38 <Ironholds>	zscout370: so you don't know that the Potsdam Declaration was a demand for unilateral surrender, with the penalty being massive obliteration?
May 02 05:57:48 <dfb>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Osama_bin_Laden&diff=prev&oldid=427011509 isn't soapboxing, I really want to know whether those things happen
May 02 05:57:51 <Ironholds>	and that the President's speech after the bombing called for the same thing, with threats of further nuclear reprisals?
May 02 05:57:56 <zscout370>	Ironholds: I am more familiar with the San Francisco treaty than that
May 02 05:58:06 <Ironholds>	I would remind all parties to this conversation of rule 3
May 02 05:58:13 <Ironholds>	don't talk shit about shit you know shit all about.
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May 02 05:58:43 <killiondude>	Ironholds: You regularly do that. :-P
May 02 05:58:55 <zscout370>	but I do agree that this is not our moon landing
May 02 05:59:00 <geniice>	america was threatening futher nuclear strikes after Nagasaki although it didn't have any nuclear bombs left
May 02 05:59:06 <tommorris_>	Ironholds: who passed that law?
May 02 05:59:13 <wctaiwan>	bin laden dead, yay?
May 02 05:59:18 <Ironholds>	tommorris_: it's one of my rules
May 02 05:59:21 <Ironholds>	wctaiwan: please, no
May 02 05:59:21 <tommorris_>	ah, okay
May 02 05:59:28 <wctaiwan>	sorry.
May 02 05:59:33 <Ironholds>	it'd be nice to have it enshrined in law, though
May 02 05:59:35 <tommorris_>	wctaiwan: we've already had a speedily kept AfD on the topic.
May 02 05:59:47 <Ironholds>	"Prime Minister, what do you think about [case]?" "I think you can get Joshua Rozenburg in here or fuck off"
May 02 05:59:59 <Ironholds>	and now people are claiming his death acts as a deterrent
May 02 06:00:00 <wctaiwan>	I'm not going to put up an AfD.
May 02 06:00:02 <Ironholds>	great lordy loo
May 02 06:00:17 <geniice>	we got one of his sprogs
May 02 06:00:19 <wctaiwan>	okay okay, no intention to start a debate here.
May 02 06:00:26 <tommorris_>	what? great deterrent - you can mastermind a major terrorist plot and ten years later, we might kill you
May 02 06:00:37 *	sonia smiles
May 02 06:00:49 <zscout370>	I think it is more of a creation of a power struggle than anything else
May 02 06:00:59 <geniice>	zscout370>	doubtful
May 02 06:01:05 <Headbomb>	at a cost of several trillions of dollars and one unecessary war
May 02 06:01:31 <tommorris_>	“It sure seems like Obama’s job as secret Muslim operative imposing Sharia law on the US just got a whole lot harder.”
May 02 06:01:33 <Ironholds>	tommorris_: I was more thinking "you can mastermind a major terrorist plot and ten years later, we might kill you, which is great since dying in exchange for blowing us up is kind of what you want"
May 02 06:01:34 <killiondude>	I wish Hussein and his rape chambers were alive and well!
May 02 06:01:48 <dfb>	does anyone other than chzz think http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Osama_bin_Laden&diff=427011597&oldid=427011509 is soapboxing?
May 02 06:02:06 <Dragonfly6-7>	killiondude - please remember, his name was *Saddam*. "Hussein" was his father.
May 02 06:02:13 <geniice>	central Al-Qaeda has very little power and Ayman al-Zawahiri's position as number 2 is rock solid
May 02 06:02:16 <Ironholds>	dfb: obviously
May 02 06:02:31 <dfb>	why?
May 02 06:02:56 <dfb>	Are the implications of Osama's death not a legitimate subject of inquiry?
May 02 06:03:31 <tommorris_>	sure, once a few more sources trickle in, it might be worth adding a sentence to the article saying something about how some people reckon this is the end of the war on terror
May 02 06:03:37 <Ironholds>	dfb: given that the talkpage is designed for discussion *of the article*, and that the tone is deliberately inflamatory, no
May 02 06:03:37 <killiondude>	That seems completely unrelated to helping the article.
May 02 06:03:41 *	sonia doubts it, tommorris_
May 02 06:03:45 *	tommorris_ has a funny feeling that nothing could ever end the war on terror
May 02 06:03:55 <sonia>	^
May 02 06:03:59 <Headbomb>	dfb: it may not be soapboxing, but it's completely irrelevant to the article and pure speciulation at this point
May 02 06:04:09 <Sven_Manguard>	Can I get an admin please?
May 02 06:04:18 <Sven_Manguard>	one of the two of you?
May 02 06:04:25 <Dragonfly6-7>	Sven_Manguard - make it quick, I'm sleepy
May 02 06:04:27 <geniice>	yes
May 02 06:04:29 <Headbomb>	tommorris_: nothing can end the war on terror because "terror" is an idea, not an enemy you can kill
May 02 06:04:30 <tommorris_>	we could have 5,000 Al Qaeda types in bodybags, and we'd still have to take our shoes off in the airport.
May 02 06:04:42 <Headbomb>	as long as there will be people, their will be terror
May 02 06:04:46 <Sven_Manguard>	is this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Konstantin_and_Mouse_Wiki.jpg recreation of the deleted material File:Konstantin and Mouse DVD cover.jpg ?
May 02 06:04:48 <geniice>	helicopter crash I would have assumed osprey
May 02 06:05:04 <wctaiwan>	from the POV of a non-westerner, this conversation is so full of trollable points >_>
May 02 06:05:06 <dfb>	there is a direct connection between what people expect of the killing of a terrorist mastermind and whether associated undeclared "wars" will or will not stop
May 02 06:05:21 <geniice>	<Sven_Manguard eys
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May 02 06:05:25 <sonia>	lol wctaiwan
May 02 06:05:32 <Sven_Manguard>	geniice: then?
May 02 06:05:36 <Headbomb>	if you're speaking in terms of specifics with the war on afghanistan and iraq, no one bothered defining the conditions of victory, so claiming victory or defeat is meaningless
May 02 06:05:44 <Sven_Manguard>	shall it be turned to dust?
May 02 06:05:47 <geniice>	Sven_Manguard	 yes rather
May 02 06:05:54 <dfb>	killiondude, Ironholds?
May 02 06:06:08 <killiondude>	Hi.
May 02 06:06:11 <Sven_Manguard>	I don't believe that release
May 02 06:06:21 <Sven_Manguard>	and the article itself is up for AfD
May 02 06:06:48 <dfb>	are the expectations of osama's death a legitimate subject of inquiry when improving the osama article?
May 02 06:07:10 <killiondude>	Your post was completely unrelated.
May 02 06:07:14 <dfb>	how?
May 02 06:07:23 <killiondude>	How is 2+2 not 5?
May 02 06:07:26 <Ironholds>	dfb: it was horribly biased and not directed at the article content
May 02 06:07:28 <dfb>	please explain
May 02 06:07:28 <wctaiwan>	dfb: I think one can always argue that, but really, it's more likely to derail the comments than anything
May 02 06:07:37 <dfb>	biased toward what?
May 02 06:07:39 <wctaiwan>	comment on wikinews :s
May 02 06:07:43 <Headbomb>	2+2 is not 6 because 2+2 = PYGMIES + DWARVES
May 02 06:07:45 <Headbomb>	obviously
May 02 06:07:52 <killiondude>	heh.
May 02 06:07:54 <Headbomb>	*2+2 is not 5 because 2+2 = PYGMIES + DWARVES
May 02 06:08:25 <Headbomb>	killiondude: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharyngula_%28blog%29#PYGMIES_.2B_DWARFS fpr the long prof
May 02 06:08:31 <Headbomb>	*for the long proof
May 02 06:08:32 <dfb>	discussion of legitimate subjects of inquiry are likely to derail comments?
May 02 06:08:42 <Ironholds>	dfb: when phrased in a biased and inflammatory way, yes
May 02 06:08:56 <Headbomb>	discussion of legitimate subjects of inquiries are fine, when made at the relevant pages
May 02 06:08:58 <Headbomb>	this is not it
May 02 06:08:59 <dfb>	what was the bias and why was it inflamitory?
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May 02 06:09:14 <Ironholds>	dfb, if you honestly can't see any bias there, you're either stupid or deliberately ignorant
May 02 06:09:30 <dfb>	Headbomb: where would the inquiry be more relevant?
May 02 06:10:06 <dfb>	Ironholds: I would like to think I am neither.  Are you intelligent enough to explain what you think the bias was towards and why it struck you as inflammatory?
May 02 06:10:15 <Headbomb>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terror would be the relevant article, but making those same comments there will have them reverted as well, since Wikipedia is not a forum
May 02 06:10:46 <dfb>	please explain how to raise those subjects so that the article(s) will be best improved
May 02 06:10:57 <tommorris_>	http://isosamabinladendeadyet.com/
May 02 06:11:17 <Headbomb>	dfb: please explain what this question has to do with improving article X
May 02 06:11:30 <Headbomb>	and how it's not some political POV trolling
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May 02 06:12:14 <dfb>	I will take your advice and try to extend the inquiry from the other article, Headbomb.  I will give Ironholds a chance to explain what he thinks the bias is towards and why it's inflammatory
May 02 06:12:43 <Headbomb>	"Can anyone confirm we're going to bring the troops home, give half the defense budget to the schools, and stop molesting people at airports?" <-- Inflamatory
May 02 06:12:49 <dfb>	why?
May 02 06:12:54 <wctaiwan>	molesting = POV
May 02 06:13:09 <dfb>	it's biased for or against molesters?
May 02 06:13:09 <wctaiwan>	give half of the defense budget to schools = canvassing for your own opinion
May 02 06:13:29 <Headbomb>	reallocating defense budget to favour schools = politics
May 02 06:13:30 <dfb>	canvassing?!?
May 02 06:13:31 <wctaiwan>	"down scale TSA checkpoints" = non-POV
May 02 06:14:02 <geniice>	TSA aren't unionised
May 02 06:14:10 <dfb>	Is it less canvassing or biased to ask whether we will keep the defense budget increasing?
May 02 06:14:19 <Sven_Manguard>	yes
May 02 06:14:23 <dfb>	why?
May 02 06:14:24 <geniice>	dfb depends on the context
May 02 06:14:24 <Sven_Manguard>	at an encyclopedia
May 02 06:14:29 <wctaiwan>	okay, perhaps not canvassing, but there's an implied point of view in that the current defense budget is misused.
May 02 06:14:30 <dfb>	why?
May 02 06:14:51 <geniice>	dfb the defence budget is largely unrelated to killing one person
May 02 06:15:04 <Headbomb>	and is a hot issue in general
May 02 06:15:06 <dfb>	says who?
May 02 06:15:22 <Headbomb>	it's politics, and you know it, and if you don't know it, then you shouldn't be making these comments in the first place
May 02 06:15:24 <geniice>	dfb err tactical reality?
May 02 06:15:32 <Sven_Manguard>	The encyclopedia is in the business of reporting reality from a neutral prospective. It has no business in asking questions or passing judgments, explicit or implicit.
May 02 06:15:45 <Sven_Manguard>	quote that, it came out nicely
May 02 06:16:01 <sonia>	Sven_Manguard: *perspective :p
May 02 06:16:09 <dfb>	there was a ten or eleven digit number of dollars associated with this one guy, at least.  Peace dividend = more teachers
May 02 06:16:22 <sonia>	dfb: or, new war
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May 02 06:16:37 <wctaiwan>	"Can anyone do some research on the effects of the death--e.g. whether the US troop level / defense budget will be altered, whether the airport checkpoints will remain as they are, etc." <-- imo something like that would be much more relevant than your original quote
May 02 06:16:39 <sonia>	o/ Osama
May 02 06:16:41 <wctaiwan>	hurray, new war.
May 02 06:16:48 <dfb>	Headbomb: I do not think it's politics, and who are you to tell me I shouldn't be making some category of comments?
May 02 06:17:00 <Osama>	Hey sonia.
May 02 06:17:02 <Sven_Manguard>	dfb I agree that the highest priority for USGOV spending needs to be education, however this is unrelated to the security dilemma.
May 02 06:17:05 <dfb>	wctaiwan: thank you! I will try that
May 02 06:17:06 <Headbomb>	dfb: want to be blocked or not? your choice
May 02 06:17:21 <dfb>	what would that solve?
May 02 06:17:34 <geniice>	Never forget I am not this account name, dfb. I am not a regular editor, I am not even some attempt to produce an admin-lite through software running on a computer. I am a wikipedia admin. We are close to gods, and on the far side. We are quicker; we live faster and more completely than you do, with so many more senses, such a greater store of memories and at such a fine level of detail.
May 02 06:17:39 <wctaiwan>	also, I can answer right now--too soon
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May 02 06:17:46 <wctaiwan>	so don't bother asking.
May 02 06:17:50 <killiondude>	geniice: i lol'd
May 02 06:17:52 <Headbomb>	think it's not politics all you want, but defense spending vs school spending, etc... IS politics
May 02 06:17:55 <Sven_Manguard>	geniice: nice rip off of a famous quote
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May 02 06:19:10 <dfb>	How is "whether the airport checkpoints will remain as they are" superior to "whether we will stop molesting people at airports"?
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May 02 06:19:25 <Sven_Manguard>	one makes judgement
May 02 06:19:31 <geniice>	molesting is subjective
May 02 06:19:46 <wctaiwan>	geniice: awesome quote for out of context situations :P
May 02 06:20:01 <dfb>	 we should not judge molestation?
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May 02 06:20:31 <geniice>	dfb it's not within wikipedia's remit to do so
May 02 06:20:37 <slakr>	dfb: the reason you want to use the term "molestation" is the reason why you can't use the term molestation.
May 02 06:20:42 <slakr>	you want to advance a point of view
May 02 06:20:58 <slakr>	that whatever they're doing be associated with the negative stigma of the word "molestation."
May 02 06:21:37 <slakr>	so the long and short of it
May 02 06:21:39 <dfb>	You are saying I might harm the TSA union?
May 02 06:21:40 <slakr>	is that no, you can't.
May 02 06:21:46 <slakr>	did I say that?
May 02 06:21:47 <slakr>	no.
May 02 06:22:00 <dfb>	why do you think I want to use the term "molestation"?
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May 02 06:22:01 <slakr>	I said you're trying to clearly advance an agenda by swapping that word in
May 02 06:22:18 <killiondude>	why do you think you think we think you want to use the term "molestation"
May 02 06:22:19 <Sven_Manguard>	right
May 02 06:22:30 <dfb>	what adgenda, the anti-TSA, anti-molestation agenda?
May 02 06:22:38 *	Ironholds headdesks
May 02 06:22:38 <Sven_Manguard>	this guy isn't getting it, cut him loose and move on
May 02 06:22:40 <slakr>	I have no idea
May 02 06:22:48 <slakr>	but whenever someone uses the word "molestation"
May 02 06:22:51 <slakr>	by swapping it in
May 02 06:22:52 <Prodego>	what is going on in here?
May 02 06:22:57 <killiondude>	slakr: please stop molesting dfb
May 02 06:23:01 <Krimpet>	Molestation, apparently.
May 02 06:23:03 <Sven_Manguard>	slakr, Ironholds, killiondude, geniice DFTT
May 02 06:23:05 <slakr>	exactly.
May 02 06:23:06 <dfb>	wait, are you going to help me figure out why I'm not following your rules?
May 02 06:23:08 <killiondude>	Sven_Manguard: I eat trolls.
May 02 06:23:12 <Headbomb>	you have the agenda of creating an association between airport procedures and molestation
May 02 06:23:16 <Headbomb>	aka, you're trolling
May 02 06:23:20 <Headbomb>	aka let's ban this guy
May 02 06:23:21 <dfb>	that's an agenda?
May 02 06:23:28 <dfb>	please don't
May 02 06:23:32 <Headbomb>	yes
May 02 06:23:36 <dfb>	why?
May 02 06:23:42 <killiondude>	dfb: You're NotGettingIt(tm)
May 02 06:23:46 <Sven_Manguard>	how to put this gently?
May 02 06:23:48 <Sven_Manguard>	you...
May 02 06:23:49 <killiondude>	either on purpose or otherwise.
May 02 06:23:50 <Sven_Manguard>	are...
May 02 06:23:52 <Sven_Manguard>	an...
May 02 06:23:53 <dfb>	I am going to talk to Chzz instead
May 02 06:23:53 <Sven_Manguard>	idiot...
May 02 06:24:00 *	slakr smacks Sven_Manguard
May 02 06:24:02 <Sven_Manguard>	Chzz has a limit
May 02 06:24:06 <Krimpet>	…*
May 02 06:24:12 <Sven_Manguard>	Chzz has a limit shorter than ours is
May 02 06:24:24 <Headbomb>	as it's been previously mentionned, either drop it or get banned
May 02 06:24:24 <slakr>	dfb: ok. However, there's nothing more we can do for you in this channel.
May 02 06:24:38 <slakr>	dfb: consider using the article's discussion page if you feel you need to use the word.
May 02 06:25:03 <Headbomb>	although several of us are wishing that you DO keep it up, so you DO get banned, and then we won't have to explain obvious stuff to you anymore
May 02 06:25:12 <dfb>	really?
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May 02 06:28:43 <Prodego>	Headbomb: knock it off, that's not helping
May 02 06:29:16 <Logan_>	haha, trout abuse much? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Logan&diff=cur
May 02 06:30:06 <killiondude>	Logan_: That's suspicious...
May 02 06:30:24 <Logan_>	killiondude: how so?
May 02 06:30:39 <killiondude>	They've made 4 edits and know about {{trout}}ing?
May 02 06:30:42 <killiondude>	or know of it
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May 02 06:30:50 <Headbomb>	obvious troll is obvious
May 02 06:30:51 <Logan_>	well, I have a trout button at the top right of my talk page
May 02 06:30:54 <killiondude>	oh
May 02 06:31:02 <killiondude>	i only looked at the diff and their contribs
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May 02 06:31:03 <Logan_>	:P
May 02 06:31:46 *	sonia creates socks and trouts Logan_ repeatedly
May 02 06:31:52 <Logan_>	haha
May 02 06:31:54 <Courcelles>	Anyone here have sysop rights on the Wikimedia Incubator?
May 02 06:32:06 <sonia>	Courcelles: no, would a steward do? :p
May 02 06:32:09 <Headbomb>	ah, then maybe not-so-obvious troll
May 02 06:32:17 <Headbomb>	maybe not-a-troll at all
May 02 06:32:31 <killiondude>	http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListUsers/sysop
May 02 06:32:37 <MuZemike>	Alright, I'm back
May 02 06:32:41 <killiondude>	not many!
May 02 06:33:05 <closedmouth>	mike's back, everyone
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May 02 06:33:16 <killiondude>	I read it as "black"
May 02 06:33:22 <MuZemike>	Breaking my tradition that I normally don't drink while at home, tonight I have made an exception.
May 02 06:33:33 <killiondude>	in honor of America?
May 02 06:33:42 <MuZemike>	Who else?
May 02 06:34:11 <closedmouth>	osama
May 02 06:34:19 <dfb>	w00t yay America, we can take out terrorists masterminds, but we can't ask if it will end airport molestation
May 02 06:34:32 <Krimpet>	MuZemike drank to the memory of his dead homeboy.
May 02 06:34:45 *	closedmouth pours a 40
May 02 06:34:53 *	closedmouth molests dfb
May 02 06:34:55 <killiondude>	dfb is still on the molestation topic
May 02 06:35:03 <killiondude>	see, you were just asking for it
May 02 06:35:37 *	dfb withdraws in shock and revulsion, resolving to travel by train and car
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May 02 06:36:17 <geniice>	an pics of the body out yet?
May 02 06:36:28 <Ironholds>	dfb: correct, because everything is about america
May 02 06:36:46 <Brian_S>	GO AMERICA
May 02 06:37:08 <Krimpet>	geniice, just full-body backscatter X-rays.
May 02 06:37:16 *	sonia takes photographs of dfb being molested and posts them on the internet.
May 02 06:37:18 <Sven_Manguard>	tingly
May 02 06:38:18 <mindspillage>	I opted out the other day. I don't mind sensual full-body massage but the TSA officer's technique leaves something to be desired. :-P
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May 02 06:42:39 <dfb>	Ironholds: what are the security checkpoint inspections like in your country?
May 02 06:43:06 <Headbomb>	dfb drop it
May 02 06:43:08 <geniice>	irony
May 02 06:43:21 <Headbomb>	no one gives a fuck
May 02 06:43:29 <geniice>	we may get a better [[Islamic funeral]] article out of bin larden's death
May 02 06:43:31 <dfb>	the TSA isn't even allowed to wear dosometers, they and their families might care
May 02 06:44:15 <Headbomb>	write a letter to your congress representative then
May 02 06:44:21 <geniice>	dfb the radation levels from the backscatter X-rays are negligable. I've been hit by more radiation working in a school
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May 02 06:44:42 <Headbomb>	and X-rays levels from X-ray scanners are ridiculously low
May 02 06:44:54 <Prodego>	geniice: it actually is rather high in terms of typical exposure
May 02 06:45:14 <Headbomb>	20 times nothing still is nothing
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May 02 06:45:53 <Prodego>	Perhaps if you do it 5 or 6 times a day you would care
May 02 06:46:03 <killiondude>	http://xkcd.com/radiation/
May 02 06:46:12 <Prodego>	but even then it is not going to be a problem
May 02 06:46:46 <Matthewedwards>	ddis anyone on from the UK?
May 02 06:46:51 <Matthewedwards>	*is
May 02 06:47:17 <Headbomb>	Prodego: no i would not
May 02 06:48:36 <Headbomb>	taking the x-ray is much much worse than giving one in terms of exposition levels, and even that is nothing to write home about
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May 02 06:49:01 <geniice>	Matthewedwards yes
May 02 06:49:39 <closedmouth>	i hope everyone gets this excited when obama kills me
May 02 06:50:11 <Matthewedwards>	geniice, has BBC 1 or ITV switched to rolling news?
May 02 06:50:13 <killiondude>	GO AMERICA
May 02 06:50:38 <geniice>	<Matthewedwards you want BBC news 24
May 02 06:50:59 <geniice>	Matthewedwards http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
May 02 06:51:30 <Matthewedwards>	well I'm in California, so I can't get any of them
May 02 06:52:32 <Matthewedwards>	But I was wondering whether BBC 1 had switched to the News 24 feed, and if ITN is all over ITV
May 02 06:52:38 <Matthewedwards>	(but then it's about 7am so breakfast TV would cover it anyway, huh
May 02 06:52:41 <Matthewedwards>	nevermind! :P
May 02 06:52:42 <geniice>	yes
May 02 06:52:56 <geniice>	hmm we don't have an article on [[Tarbela Ghazi]]
May 02 06:53:48 <closedmouth>	what is it?
May 02 06:54:25 <killiondude>	something obscure
May 02 06:54:31 <killiondude>	low hanging fruit
May 02 06:54:47 <sonia>	anyone here read greek?
May 02 06:55:09 <Headbomb>	sonia: maybe
May 02 06:55:30 <sonia>	Headbomb: trying to figure out if http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Spanos_Industries#Sources are third-party sources
May 02 06:55:31 <Headbomb>	i can sort of decipher some words :p
May 02 06:55:46 <Headbomb>	sonia: ah then i'd try google translate for that
May 02 06:55:57 <sonia>	I'm currently using NVDA which is failing at greek lol
May 02 06:56:20 <geniice>	closedmouth the base the attack was probably launched from
May 02 06:56:45 <Headbomb>	the greek source is Skypodema & Xalybas, or something close to that
May 02 06:56:59 <closedmouth>	i see
May 02 06:57:07 <killiondude>	skype
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May 02 06:57:23 <sonia>	Kr102: fail
May 02 06:57:27 <sonia>	killiondude: heh
May 02 06:57:32 <Headbomb>	sonia: looks like a press release
May 02 06:57:39 <Kr102>	no, i'm not authorizing this
May 02 06:58:09 <sonia>	Headbomb: yeah, I see that now
May 02 06:58:28 <Headbomb>	so probably reliable for basic facts
May 02 06:58:31 <sonia>	but again, can't read those articles at all
May 02 06:58:38 <sonia>	we're trying to establish notability :p
May 02 06:58:43 <Headbomb>	but nothing that would go for establishing notability
May 02 06:58:51 <Headbomb>	at least, if it's a press release
May 02 06:58:58 <Headbomb>	in some random publication
May 02 06:59:08 <Headbomb>	which might not be the case
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May 02 07:01:13 <killiondude>	http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/226290_1729484641708_1376220075_31581660_6004377_n.jpg
May 02 07:02:05 <Matthewedwards>	geniice, should the video on that BBC link work outside the UK?
May 02 07:03:04 <geniice>	probably not
May 02 07:03:58 <Matthewedwards>	ah, that explains it
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May 02 07:06:51 <geniice>	killiondude hey if it take's bin larden's death to get the royal wedding off the front pages he did at least one useful thing (actualy it had drifted off the front pages halfway through yesterday)
May 02 07:07:09 <killiondude>	larden is a funny typo
May 02 07:07:20 <OlEnglish>	heh
May 02 07:07:51 <Sven_Manguard>	I really wish that there were some way for people to submit images to a reviewer if they were not sure about it's copyright stats
May 02 07:07:59 <Sven_Manguard>	it would cut down on me having to do http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:ELAMCYPRUS.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=427019303
May 02 07:08:01 <Sven_Manguard>	that
May 02 07:08:02 <geniice>	According to locals speaking on Pakistani television from the area where Bin Laden is said to have been killed, Pakistani troops arrived after the operation and they have now completely taken control of the area. There is a search operation going on and no one is allowed in the immediate vicinity.
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May 02 07:08:22 <geniice>	hourse door bolted
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May 02 07:09:51 <Sven_Manguard>	any crats around?
May 02 07:10:07 *	Headbomb|Laptop (~Headbomb@Wikipedia/Headbomb) has joined #wikipedia-en
May 02 07:11:01 <Logan_>	any cats around?
May 02 07:11:33 <Dcoetzee>	meowmeowmeow
May 02 07:11:40 <Logan_>	oh hey
May 02 07:11:54 <Logan_>	Sven_Manguard: ^
May 02 07:12:08 <Matthewedwards>	hey Sven, how's it going?
May 02 07:12:13 <Sven_Manguard>	hey there
May 02 07:12:18 <Sven_Manguard>	I jumped the gun a bit
May 02 07:12:23 <Matthewedwards>	does anyone use KVirc? I need help removing a server from startup
May 02 07:12:43 <Sven_Manguard>	but hey if you have the time, /j ##Chzz and ask if you're still needed
May 02 07:13:02 <Matthewedwards>	me?
May 02 07:13:06 <Sven_Manguard>	there's a user who is looking for a remane, but "it'd need to go thru CHU anyway"
May 02 07:13:14 <Sven_Manguard>	whatever that is
May 02 07:13:18 <Sven_Manguard>	oh
May 02 07:13:23 <Sven_Manguard>	Change Username page?
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May 02 07:13:58 <sonia>	Matthewedwards: I do, but I fail at using it
May 02 07:14:22 <Matthewedwards>	lol
May 02 07:15:37 <Logan_>	Dcoetzee: You should update Firefox
May 02 07:16:02 <Ironholds>	egh. boredom
May 02 07:16:12 <Logan_>	egh. Ironholds
May 02 07:16:15 <Logan_>	:P
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May 02 07:18:25 <Dcoetzee>	Logan_: My FF is up to date I think :-/
May 02 07:18:25 <Logan_>	Dcoetzee: 4.0.1 is out :p you're running 4.0
May 02 07:19:06 *	Logan_ throws Fluff|sleep at Ironholds 
May 02 07:19:06 *	Dcoetzee checks his carometer.
May 02 07:19:06 <Dcoetzee>	Nope don't care :-P It'll auto update later.
May 02 07:19:06 <Logan_>	heh
May 02 07:19:28 *	sonia is running .0.1 she thinks
May 02 07:19:39 *	sonia has used 4.whatever through the beta and all
May 02 07:19:39 *	Logan_ can't tell because you're running KVIRC :P
May 02 07:19:52 *	Logan_ is running Firefox 6.0a1
May 02 07:20:00 *	sonia eats Logan_
May 02 07:20:01 <Logan_>	isn't that special
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May 02 07:21:07 *	Sven_Manguard is now known as themehcushion
May 02 07:21:39 *	themehcushion is now known as Sven_Manguard
May 02 07:22:09 *	thebadcushion throws a bad cushion at sonia
May 02 07:22:34 <thebadcushion>	(and a whale)
May 02 07:22:36 <sonia>	...
May 02 07:22:36 <thegoodcushion>	very good Logan
May 02 07:22:44 <thebadcushion>	heh
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May 02 07:22:56 <Ironholds>	sigh
May 02 07:22:59 *	sonia introduces thebadcushion to thegoodcushion
May 02 07:23:02 <Ironholds>	I should be working, or writing an article
May 02 07:23:06 <thebadcushion>	thegoodcushion: nice to meet you
May 02 07:23:11 <thegoodcushion>	likewise
May 02 07:23:24 <thebadcushion>	Ironholds: want to write one for me? :P
May 02 07:24:53 <Ironholds>	depends what it's on
May 02 07:25:40 <thebadcushion>	anything that wouldn't kill me for a lack of content contribution at an RfA
May 02 07:25:46 *	SudoGhost has quit (Quit: Leaving)
May 02 07:25:53 *	thebadcushion has to stop being lazy and actually write an article
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May 02 07:26:39 *	Headbomb|Laptop introduces sonia to monia
May 02 07:26:49 <sonia>	thebadcushion: I told you before, go source an olympic medal list and FL it
May 02 07:26:51 *	thebadcushion is now known as [Live]
May 02 07:27:07 <[Live]>	sonia: yeah, I suppose
May 02 07:27:14 <[Live]>	but can't anyone do that? :P
May 02 07:27:47 <Sven_Manguard>	Live you want a really good topic, like "everyone's fucking stunned no one wrote this one" good?
May 02 07:27:52 <sonia>	you specifically said you wanted something for an RfA.. those are about as little effort as it takes
May 02 07:28:06 <[Live]>	Sven_Manguard: yes please :P
May 02 07:28:20 <Sven_Manguard>	Live are you a video gamer?
May 02 07:28:22 <Ironholds>	sonia: proof of how easy FLs are - I have 14
May 02 07:28:32 <[Live]>	Sven_Manguard: Xbox 360
May 02 07:28:35 <Ironholds>	at the moment I'm working on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ironholds/v
May 02 07:28:40 <[Live]>	Ironholds: that is not proof of easiness :P
May 02 07:28:49 *	sonia is now known as sonia|dinner
May 02 07:29:02 <Sven_Manguard>	You must promise to do a good job on this or I will beat you to death with a tube of toothpaste
May 02 07:29:21 <[Live]>	Sven_Manguard: heh, give me the idea first :P
May 02 07:29:44 <[Live]>	may or may not have the knowledge to write it well
May 02 07:30:01 <Sven_Manguard>	how good are you with health topics?
May 02 07:30:20 <[Live]>	example?
May 02 07:30:26 <[Live]>	actually, I have to sleep now
May 02 07:30:37 <Sven_Manguard>	okay then
May 02 07:30:44 *	[Live] is now marked as away: zzz
May 02 07:30:48 <Sven_Manguard>	I will find someone eventually to take this one
May 02 07:31:52 <killiondude>	when you are 40
May 02 07:33:40 <AnonIPUser>	any pics of OBL's body yet?
May 02 07:34:01 <Sven_Manguard>	no
May 02 07:34:13 <Sven_Manguard>	they won't be released until the election cycle is in swing
May 02 07:34:23 <AnonIPUser>	{{cite}
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May 02 07:35:03 <MuZemike>	Who wants a cold one?
May 02 07:35:12 *	thegoodcushion has quit (Quit: Have a great day everyone!  :D)
May 02 07:35:23 <Sven_Manguard>	AnonIPUser: you forgot a }
May 02 07:35:27 <Sven_Manguard>	take one of mine
May 02 07:35:35 <AnonIPUser>	Right, so {{citation needed}}, please.
May 02 07:35:55 <geniice>	A BBC reporter in Pakistan says the compound where Bin Laden was killed is 800 yards from the premises of the PMA - Pakistan Military Academy - Pakistan's equivalent of British Army officer training centre at Sandhurst.
May 02 07:38:37 <Ironholds>	I'm pretty sure I can turn this damn article into a GA
May 02 07:38:45 <Ironholds>	god bless the east caribbean's corrupt politicians
May 02 07:38:52 <Ironholds>	they accumulate many mentions in reliable source
May 02 07:38:53 <Ironholds>	s
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May 02 07:40:21 <MuZemike>	:) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=427019895&oldid=427011380
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May 02 07:44:20 <killiondude>	salut
May 02 07:44:53 *	sonia|dinner is now known as sonia
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May 02 07:46:45 <geniice>	hmm the bin Laden compound should be within 800 yards of this http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=34.183333,73.25&spn=0.01,0.01&t=h&q=34.183333,73.25
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May 02 07:46:53 <sonia>	Libya, ftw
May 02 07:47:02 <MuZemike>	:) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=427022446
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May 02 07:49:57 <foks>	Holy shit, bin Laden
May 02 07:50:00 <foks>	wow
May 02 07:50:31 <foks>	I assume we have [[Osama bin Laden]] protected?
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May 02 07:51:07 <killiondude>	plz no assuming
May 02 07:51:32 <foks>	We do
May 02 07:51:33 <foks>	so
May 02 07:51:47 <MuZemike>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz6oe9q29JE
May 02 07:52:22 <foks>	Why do we have the date of death as "circa May 1"?
May 02 07:52:27 <MuZemike>	That game would go on for 5 more innings BTW (ended in the 14th inning)
May 02 07:52:29 <foks>	...actually I answered my own question
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May 02 07:52:40 <foks>	Inning?
May 02 07:52:48 <MuZemike>	Baseball jargon
May 02 07:52:52 <foks>	Oh
May 02 07:52:56 <foks>	Oh, right
May 02 07:53:15 <MuZemike>	Similar to "innings" in cricket
May 02 07:53:47 <foks>	Yeah, I assumed
May 02 07:54:02 <killiondude>	I've never seen a real game of cricket.
May 02 07:54:12 <killiondude>	I mean, I've seen it on a lame ESPN channel but I've never watched.
May 02 07:54:16 <foks>	But you've seen... imaginary games of cricket?
May 02 07:54:17 <foks>	:D
May 02 07:54:27 <foks>	I like cricket, sort of.
May 02 07:54:35 <foks>	Scotland are a shit team though.
May 02 07:55:28 <MuZemike>	Anyways, a baseball game consists of 9 innings; if both teams are tied after 9 innings, they keep playing "extra innings" until the tie is broken after the end of any inning.
May 02 07:55:41 <foks>	ahh
May 02 07:55:50 <foks>	I love the word "tie"
May 02 07:55:56 <foks>	We never say tie
May 02 07:56:06 <foks>	Well, tie = match
May 02 07:56:17 <foks>	Like, "the fourth home tie of the season"
May 02 07:56:46 <MuZemike>	I think even in American football we say "tie" (in the rare occurrence there is a tie in American pro football)
May 02 07:57:00 <foks>	We use "draw"
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May 02 08:01:04 <Dcoetzee>	Americans know the word "draw". But they only usually use it in chess, I think.
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May 02 08:02:58 <Matthewedwards>	has anyone ever crossed paths with User:???
May 02 08:03:14 <Matthewedwards>	[[User:??]]
May 02 08:04:30 <ScottSteiner>	!admin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bsadowski1 seems to be under attack by multiple IP socks
May 02 08:04:47 <killiondude>	Brian_S: ^
May 02 08:04:57 <MuZemike>	Brian_S can protect it himself if he so wants
May 02 08:05:06 <ScottSteiner>	ah, Brian_S is bsadowski?
May 02 08:05:10 <Brian_S>	I know.
May 02 08:05:15 <Brian_S>	About to.
May 02 08:05:23 <Brian_S>	It's b again
May 02 08:05:35 <ScottSteiner>	Maybe it's just somebody who really likes amoebas
May 02 08:05:35 <Brian_S>	thanks Timotheus_Canens
May 02 08:05:49 <Timotheus_Canens>	:)
May 02 08:05:56 <foks>	hmm
May 02 08:06:07 <foks>	Should we check they're proxies or something?
May 02 08:06:20 <Timotheus_Canens>	 /b/?
May 02 08:06:24 <MuZemike>	No
May 02 08:06:25 <Timotheus_Canens>	no need
May 02 08:06:43 <MuZemike>	Time for another beer
May 02 08:06:57 <ScottSteiner>	what's going on with cluebot?
May 02 08:07:00 <Timotheus_Canens>	If I'm feeling up to it, I go through the IPs and block them
May 02 08:07:02 <Timotheus_Canens>	but meh
May 02 08:07:12 <Brian_S>	I blocked them all, Timotheus_Canens.
May 02 08:07:43 <foks>	ah.
May 02 08:07:55 <foks>	Oh Brian.
May 02 08:08:00 <foks>	u mad? <3
May 02 08:08:04 *	sonia blocks Brian_S
May 02 08:08:14 <foks>	also, I have to go to Uni, on a BANK HOLIDAY, to hand something in.
May 02 08:08:16 <foks>	Raging.
May 02 08:08:19 <Brian_S>	Lol. No.
May 02 08:08:19 <Brian_S>	:P
May 02 08:08:45 <Matthewedwards>	Brian, I haven't seen anything on /b/
May 02 08:09:01 <Matthewedwards>	I've been lurking a good hour or two
May 02 08:09:24 <ScottSteiner>	tell them you just found one of your family members was killed and you need time to mourn :p
May 02 08:09:29 <ScottSteiner>	found out*
May 02 08:09:35 <Matthewedwards>	lol
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May 02 08:09:48 <sonia>	ScottSteiner: brilliant
May 02 08:09:49 <Matthewedwards>	hmm... k
May 02 08:10:07 <Timotheus_Canens>	Nice, Brian_S
May 02 08:10:16 <foks>	ScottSteiner, aha
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May 02 08:10:33 <Matthewedwards>	hmmm.. I need a Baw thread image
May 02 08:10:39 <foks>	I live in Aberdeen, the only thing you can die of here is blood cholesterol
May 02 08:11:12 <Matthewedwards>	deep fried mars bars
May 02 08:11:43 <killiondude>	Your momma's so fat that she should probably be worried about the increased risk of cardiovascular disease.
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May 02 08:13:07 <sonia>	killiondude...
May 02 08:13:47 <killiondude>	hi
May 02 08:13:53 <Herodotus>	Hello.
May 02 08:13:58 *	sonia awards killiondude +2 internetz.
May 02 08:13:59 <Matthewedwards>	your momma's so fat when she bends over there's a solar eclipse
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May 02 08:14:33 <killiondude>	http://anti-joke.com/anti-joke/popular/page/1
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May 02 08:21:49 <Matthewedwards>	still looking for a baw image...
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May 02 08:23:14 <geniice>	stand by for bin Laden not dead conspiracy theories http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f18/taliban-says-shaykh-osama-alive-unconfirmed-news-45502/
May 02 08:24:01 <Matthewedwards>	of course
May 02 08:24:17 <killiondude>	i don't want to click something i think the government is tracking
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May 02 08:27:40 <geniice>	why? don't you enjoy playing spot the CIA agents
May 02 08:28:01 <geniice>	hmm have you ever woundered who the MI6 agents are on wikipedia?
May 02 08:28:40 <Herodotus>	He meant he thinks he'll get put on a government watchlist if he clicks the link, not that the government is also clicking the link.
May 02 08:28:54 <sonia>	geniice: all the females are, apparently, since there are no females on the internet.
May 02 08:29:20 <Matthewedwards>	MI6 agents? here?
May 02 08:29:25 <Matthewedwards>	don't they have better things to do?
May 02 08:29:42 <geniice>	Matthewedwards wikipedia is an excelent properganda platform
May 02 08:29:49 <killiondude>	o__o
May 02 08:29:55 <killiondude>	propaganda
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May 02 08:30:09 <geniice>	by law the CIA can't touch us but MI6 can
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May 02 08:30:42 <geniice>	and wikipedia is active in areas that intelligence agencies take an interest in
May 02 08:31:02 <Headbomb|Laptop>	oh wow, what a fucking good Obama/CSI meme picture-thing: http://i.imgur.com/09fM7.jpg
May 02 08:31:20 <geniice>	we know that there is something on wikipedia sufficiently classified that one but of the CIA thought that other bits of the CIA shouldn't know about it
May 02 08:31:21 <Matthewedwards>	yeah, I suppose you're right
May 02 08:31:26 <Matthewedwards>	why can't the CIA?
May 02 08:32:08 <geniice>	Matthewedwards I can't remeber the exact law but they are not allowed to target properganda and the american people and english wikipedia at least is widely read in the US
May 02 08:32:48 <Matthewedwards>	ooh
May 02 08:32:55 <geniice>	we also know that Canada changed how they release info on millitry operations in response to Wikipedia writing about them
May 02 08:33:31 <Herodotus>	So they can still edit things Americans have no interest in, like cricket.
May 02 08:33:35 <geniice>	the CIA also generally doesn't target the UK media. Not for any legal reason but because they generally accept that the UK media is MI5's turf
May 02 08:33:42 <athabasca>	!admin
May 02 08:33:49 <geniice>	athabasca yes
May 02 08:35:44 <Matthewedwards>	ScottSteiner: http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/326299982
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May 02 08:37:42 <geniice>	hmm traffic hasn't jumped much
May 02 08:37:44 <geniice>	http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/?m=cpu_report&r=day&s=descending&c=Apaches+8+CPU&h=&sh=1
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May 02 08:42:58 <Matthewedwards>	really? They threw his body in the ocean? That's a great way of proving to us he's actually dead
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May 02 08:45:06 <geniice>	unlikely to say the least
May 02 08:45:41 <geniice>	no his body is generaly accepted as being transported towards bagram airbase
May 02 08:46:30 <slakr>	I'm actually kind of saddened by what I'm seeing on facebook.
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May 02 08:46:54 <slakr>	especially when the occasional person says that he's not celebrating the death of another human.
May 02 08:47:19 <slakr>	the irony is that the people who then attack that person for not partaking in the festivities
May 02 08:47:42 <slakr>	are standing behind a mantra of also being opposed to the deaths of other humans.
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May 02 08:49:09 <geniice>	eh people are on a pure emotional drive right now
May 02 08:49:24 <geniice>	crazy behaviour on all sides.
May 02 08:49:50 <MuZemike>	Meh, who's being emotional? The fucker's dead, right?
May 02 08:49:58 <MuZemike>	Now who wants another beer?
May 02 08:50:04 <slakr>	kind of baffles the mind. Consider: on a small scale, it's a bunch of people acting aggressively toward people opposing violence--all in the name of opposing violence.
May 02 08:50:17 <slakr>	so in a way, it mirrors the entire conflict, as a whole.
May 02 08:50:28 <slakr>	people doing violent things to "prevent violence"
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May 02 08:50:37 <Qcoder00>	Morning
May 02 08:50:41 <Qcoder00>	Any admins awake?
May 02 08:50:46 *	slakr shrugs anyyyyway....
May 02 08:50:51 *	[Pmlineditor] is now known as PM|AFK
May 02 08:50:58 <MuZemike>	Wasn't it Lenin who ordered the execution of Tsar Nicholas II and family?
May 02 08:51:14 <Qcoder00>	MuZemike:  Erm...
May 02 08:51:49 <Qcoder00>	My understanding was that  The execution of the Tsar was a done by a local soviet ....
May 02 08:52:04 <Qcoder00>	.. Although the hireachy must have been aware
May 02 08:52:08 <MuZemike>	Some sources say it came from Lenin, though
May 02 08:53:38 <Qcoder00>	slakr: Anyway, I was needing an admin to look over some template migrations I'd done ( admin or experienced contributor)
May 02 08:54:07 <slakr>	link it to the channel
May 02 08:54:12 <slakr>	the more the merrier
May 02 08:54:26 <Qcoder00>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sfan00_IMG
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May 02 08:58:06 <MuZemike>	lol, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Rasputin#Murder
May 02 08:59:00 <MuZemike>	FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Rasputin%27s_penis
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May 02 09:04:58 <Sven_Manguard>	MuZemike: WHAT?
May 02 09:05:08 <Sven_Manguard>	Rasputin's wang had an article?
May 02 09:05:12 <MuZemike>	Never saw that AFD?
May 02 09:05:22 <ScottSteiner>	Sorry Matthewedwards, I missed that link.  What was it?
May 02 09:05:37 <Matthewedwards>	it 404d
May 02 09:06:16 <ScottSteiner>	I saw, what was it though?
May 02 09:07:52 <ScottSteiner>	Ah, I see now. http://4chansearch.com/?q=%3E326299982&m=1&p=1&s=1
May 02 09:07:55 <Matthewedwards>	me, pretending my dad and brother had died.. some armed thugs just stormed onto their property and shot them cold
May 02 09:08:05 <Matthewedwards>	then drragged away their body
May 02 09:08:13 <Matthewedwards>	and dumped it in the sea..
May 02 09:08:21 <Matthewedwards>	didn't really take off :(
May 02 09:08:31 <Matthewedwards>	I suck at trolling
May 02 09:09:26 <Matthewedwards>	Hey -- when did the "This is a preview of the unsaved changes you have made." notice change at Wikipedia?
May 02 09:09:35 <MuZemike>	Yesterday
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May 02 09:10:53 <Matthewedwards>	ah
May 02 09:11:03 <Matthewedwards>	looks cleaner, sort of
May 02 09:12:13 <geniice>	United States Navy SEALs ? I suppose that makes sense. delta force are more about infiltration than smash and grab
May 02 09:12:53 <Qcoder00>	geniice: Huh?
May 02 09:13:23 <Matthewedwards>	bedtime, g'night everyone
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May 02 09:13:48 <geniice>	The raid was carried out jointly by 20–25 helicopter-borne United States Navy SEALs under the command of the Joint Special Operations Command in cooperation with the CIA. The SEALs stormed the compound and engaged bin Laden and his men in a firefight.[13]
May 02 09:15:57 <Sven_Manguard>	shit man
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May 02 09:16:04 <Sven_Manguard>	those seals need some gaudy medals
May 02 09:16:09 <Qcoder00>	So basicly they went into capture Bin laden and a gunfight ensued?
May 02 09:16:11 <Sven_Manguard>	and solid gold bars or something
May 02 09:16:21 <Sven_Manguard>	Qcoder00: capture? never in the plan
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May 02 09:16:46 <Qcoder00>	Sven_Manguard:  The US doesn't carry out direct assaisnations
May 02 09:16:53 <Qcoder00>	*assinations
May 02 09:17:04 <Sven_Manguard>	ha ha ha
May 02 09:17:06 <slakr>	"...and why do you think the American people should re-elect you?" ... "I get shit done."
May 02 09:17:33 <Sven_Manguard>	that airstrike that killed Qaddafi's *sane* son, while Qaddafi was in the house?
May 02 09:17:49 <Sven_Manguard>	tell me the US dosen't carry out assassinations
May 02 09:18:01 <Qcoder00>	Sven_Manguard:  That was an airstrike targeting Command Bunkers, not the person (re the Libya thing)
May 02 09:18:06 <Brian_S>	They were aiming for a miliatary base, Sven_Manguard.
May 02 09:18:09 <Brian_S>	-a
May 02 09:18:11 <geniice>	do we know who the plane that carried out the air strike belonged to?
May 02 09:18:12 <Brian_S>	<<
May 02 09:18:29 <slakr>	how convenient
May 02 09:18:37 <slakr>	decades of weapons research
May 02 09:18:40 <slakr>	billions of dollars
May 02 09:18:45 <slakr>	and we still can't hit a target?
May 02 09:18:55 <geniice>	Sven_Manguard capture would have been a nominal part of the plan but with the numbers involved and operating in de facto enermy territory it would have involved total cooperation on bin Laden's part
May 02 09:18:57 <slakr>	no, we "accidentally" hit everything else.
May 02 09:19:09 <geniice>	slakr the target was hit
May 02 09:19:32 <slakr>	oh right... we can hit the needle in the haystack, but take the whole barn with it.
May 02 09:19:39 <slakr>	:P
May 02 09:19:46 <Sven_Manguard>	we killed the only member of the Qaddafi family that wasn't batshit insane.
May 02 09:19:49 <geniice>	however either gaddafi wasn't at the target  or the target wasn't hit hard enough
May 02 09:20:02 <Sven_Manguard>	the target wasn't hit hard enough
May 02 09:20:07 <Sven_Manguard>	thats the one
May 02 09:20:08 <Qcoder00>	geniice:  In respect of the SEAL raid in Pakistan, the reactaion of elements in Pakistan is going to be intresting...
May 02 09:20:21 <Qcoder00>	Presumably the US asked the Pakistani authorites?
May 02 09:20:36 <MuZemike>	"Pockistan"
May 02 09:20:37 <geniice>	Sven_Manguard police of europe might beg to differ. he was a spoiled brat like most of the others
May 02 09:20:49 <Qcoder00>	(Then again presumably elements in Pakistan's government don't like Bin Laden wither)
May 02 09:20:51 <geniice>	Qcoder00 yes it asked them. After the mission was complete
May 02 09:20:53 <Qcoder00>	*either
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May 02 09:22:26 <geniice>	 Pakistan can't complain to much the raid was within 800 yards of their main officer training school. So either the millitry have to admin they were incompetent or they have to protend they were okey with the US raid
May 02 09:22:41 <Qcoder00>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendal,_Saskatchewan - Infobox gone wrong?
May 02 09:23:11 *	MC8 is somewhat disgusted by the cheering crowds
May 02 09:24:33 <Qcoder00>	Why?
May 02 09:25:32 <geniice>	Qcoder00 it's primative bloodlust
May 02 09:26:08 <Ironholds>	incredibly shortsighted primitive bloodlust
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May 02 09:26:54 <MuZemike>	Almost better than Final Fantasy's fanfare music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2nSEZ6kEuk
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May 02 09:31:20 <geniice>	Ironholds eh you can't blame people for being emotionally driven at this point.  With the secular religion that is politics beelzebub is dead
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May 02 09:32:29 <geniice>	UK has things slightly better since most reasonable people were asleep when the news broke
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May 02 09:32:46 <MuZemike>	heh, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8NsnLfIAcs
May 02 09:36:01 <geniice>	Pakistan's Foreign Office has released a statement confirming the operation: "In an intelligence driven operation, Osama Bin Ladin was killed in the surroundings of Abbotabad in the early hours of this morning. This operation was conducted by the US forces in accordance with declared US policy that Osama Bin Ladin will be eliminated in a direct action by the US forces, wherever found in the...
May 02 09:36:03 <geniice>	...world."
May 02 09:36:15 <geniice>	heh thats a carefuly worded statement
May 02 09:36:45 <geniice>	"yes the US came in and killed him without telling us but it could have happened to anyone gov"
May 02 09:37:47 <Brian_S>	http://www.mofa.gov.pk/Press_Releases/2011/May/PR_150.htm
May 02 09:39:53 *	Ranon is now known as Barras
May 02 09:41:34 <Hedgehog456>	Yay!
May 02 09:42:30 <Hedgehog456>	My website is almost ready!
May 02 09:42:34 <Hedgehog456>	Yay!
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May 02 09:42:52 <Hedgehog456>	Global news of happiness at death of certain terrorist!
May 02 09:43:27 <Theo1>	shame on you!
May 02 09:44:30 <thegoodcushion>	I need to see pics of his body
May 02 09:44:36 <thegoodcushion>	I won't just take the government's word for it
May 02 09:44:45 <Theo1>	whats wrong with you?
May 02 09:45:17 <geniice>	thegoodcushion be patient
May 02 09:45:28 <sonia>	thegoodcushion:  http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:HhEh-2wPwVMJ:www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2009/04/29/osama-bin-laden-believed-dead-by-pak-int+http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2009/04/29/osama-bin-laden-believed-dead-by-pak-int&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera&source=www.google.com
May 02 09:45:35 <geniice>	although if he took a bullet to the head I expect he's a bit of a mess
May 02 09:45:44 <Brian_S>	sonia...
May 02 09:45:47 <thegoodcushion>	don't tell me they found him, killed him, then buried him at sea
May 02 09:45:53 *	Brian_S shakes head
May 02 09:45:57 <geniice>	sonia that image is a fake that has been floating around the web for months
May 02 09:46:01 *	sonia hugs Brian_S
May 02 09:46:05 *	sonia unshakes head
May 02 09:46:13 <thegoodcushion>	that image is a fake
May 02 09:46:16 <closedmouth>	that is so fake
May 02 09:46:24 <thegoodcushion>	geniice: they morticianed the Hussein brothers
May 02 09:46:26 <MuZemike>	Hey, the communist cats get theirs on May Day, us "capitalist dogs" get ours on, well, the same day.
May 02 09:46:30 <closedmouth>	oh heh 2009
May 02 09:46:32 <geniice>	sonia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden#picture
May 02 09:46:47 <sonia>	:P
May 02 09:46:50 <MuZemike>	Yeah, the picture is a little on the fake side.
May 02 09:46:52 <geniice>	thegoodcushion you had to wait for pics that time
May 02 09:47:18 *	sonia smiles
May 02 09:47:23 <MuZemike>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden#Isn.27t_Osama_the_president_of_the_US.3F
May 02 09:47:30 <sonia>	...
May 02 09:47:44 <Qcoder00>	MuZemike:  The trolling has started?
May 02 09:47:50 <geniice>	thegoodcushion oh and islamic burial customs require burial withing 24 hours
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May 02 09:48:08 <geniice>	Qcoder00 no it's jsut fox news
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May 02 09:48:16 <thegoodcushion>	geniice: they didn't honour that with the Husseins did they?
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May 02 09:48:35 <thegoodcushion>	they'd have to do DNA, photographs, take his body to sea, and bury it, all within 24 hours
May 02 09:49:00 <geniice>	I could do most of that within 1 hour. But then I live rather closer to the sea
May 02 09:49:21 <geniice>	taking DNA is just a tissue stample
May 02 09:49:32 <thegoodcushion>	blood or inside cheek swab
May 02 09:49:38 <thegoodcushion>	With Saddam and his sons, they took many photos
May 02 09:50:29 <geniice>	I can take 100 photos an hour no problem
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May 02 09:51:40 <PM|AFK>	"Isn't Osama the president of the US?" 9.9
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May 02 09:51:55 <Dcoetzee>	Well yes, that's his middle name.
May 02 09:52:07 <Dcoetzee>	Er
May 02 09:52:10 <Dcoetzee>	I mixed that up
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May 02 09:52:16 <Brian_S>	Dcoetzee!
May 02 09:52:20 *	Hedgehog456 deletes Dcoetzee
May 02 09:52:30 <PM|AFK>	lol
May 02 09:52:57 <MuZemike>	PM|AFK: No, that's "Hussein".
May 02 09:53:17 *	sonia throws Dcoetzee out the window
May 02 09:53:18 <Dcoetzee>	I knew it was somebody bad
May 02 09:53:24 <PM|AFK>	MuZemike: I know
May 02 09:53:34 <PM|AFK>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden <-- seriously?
May 02 09:53:37 <sonia>	Obama bin laden
May 02 09:53:53 <PM|AFK>	So every article about anything new will be taken to AfD?
May 02 09:53:56 <PM|AFK>	sonia: XD
May 02 09:54:06 <Ironholds>	sonia: I feel sorry for Obama, y'knw
May 02 09:54:09 <Ironholds>	*o
May 02 09:54:13 *	sonia nominates PM|AFK for deletion.
May 02 09:54:15 <MuZemike>	No way in hell that was going to get deleted.
May 02 09:54:19 <sonia>	Ironholds: there's any number of reasons you could.
May 02 09:54:26 <Ironholds>	his plan to turn the world into a muslim califate has REALLY taken a hit today
May 02 09:54:26 <MuZemike>	Or likely will
May 02 09:54:38 <sonia>	..heh.
May 02 09:54:43 <Ironholds>	dark sarcasm is good
May 02 09:54:51 <Hedgehog456>	"Wait a minute. Isn't this guy the president of the US? I mean isn't the president Osama? That can't be right because the president was apparently happy that Osama was killed. I think you need to change the title of the article?" WTF
May 02 09:55:00 <Hedgehog456>	Trolling ^
May 02 09:55:12 <Hedgehog456>	Doesn't anyone know Obama's name?
May 02 09:55:21 <PM|AFK>	No :p
May 02 09:55:35 <PM|AFK>	that's why http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Obama_Bin_Laden&redirect=no exists
May 02 09:55:48 <Hedgehog456>	:D
May 02 09:55:55 <MuZemike>	Barack Osama?
May 02 09:57:31 <Brian_S>	That's Epic Fail.
May 02 09:57:35 <Brian_S>	>_>
May 02 09:58:01 <MuZemike>	Worse than Spelunker on the NES: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpumPILASio
May 02 09:58:16 <Hedgehog456>	"123Hedgehog456, King of HedgehogWorld, refused to comment on the death, and was then caught blowing a party popper and playing "Pin the Tail on the Hedgehog"""
May 02 09:58:16 <Hedgehog456>	What kind of megalomanic is this guy- oh, it's me.
May 02 09:58:30 <Hedgehog456>	Completely fabricated, :P.
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May 02 09:58:42 <Dcoetzee>	I have to give the American public credit that they could elect somebody named Barack Hussein Obama without 1. being so stupid they associate him with Osama bin Laden and Sadam Hussein, 2. thinking anyone with a fancy African name doesn't understand American values.
May 02 09:59:19 <Dcoetzee>	Not that conservative pundits didn't endlessly try to rehash those ridiculous arguments anyway :-P
May 02 09:59:41 <Ironholds>	Dcoetzee: that's a tiny bit depressing
May 02 09:59:55 <Ironholds>	so well done for making something so optimistic also a bit sad :p
May 02 10:00:18 <MuZemike>	FWIW, Sarah Palia may have scared too many people off to support John McCain.
May 02 10:00:21 <MuZemike>	*Palin
May 02 10:02:09 <Ironholds>	eh
May 02 10:02:15 <Ironholds>	I think it's more the mummy/daddy complex
May 02 10:03:15 *	dungodung|sleep is now known as dungodung
May 02 10:03:39 <Ironholds>	MuZemike/ Dcoetzee: which I'm sure you've heard of? :p
May 02 10:07:24 <MuZemike>	Under 40 pages on my watchlist again
May 02 10:09:26 <MuZemike>	Yeah, I don't like to watchlist half the encyclopedia, as I don't WP:OWN it.
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May 02 10:13:23 <Ironholds>	Peter-C: around?
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May 02 10:33:19 <AnonIPUser>	AY!
May 02 10:34:31 <AnonIPUser>	What happens to the $50,000,000 reward? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden#.2450.2C000.2C000_reward_out_on_his_head_-_Recipient.3F
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May 02 10:36:20 <Ironholds>	AnonIPUser: nothing
May 02 10:36:27 <Ironholds>	serving members of the military = not eligible, afaik
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May 02 10:40:31 <closedmouth>	obama gets it
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May 02 10:58:54 <Brian_S>	closedmouth: https://twitter.com/#!/alqaeda/statuses/24525767471
May 02 10:58:55 <Brian_S>	lolwut
May 02 10:59:18 <closedmouth>	heh
May 02 11:02:03 <Peter-C>	lol
May 02 11:03:16 <Brian_S>	http://nittygriddy.com/2010/09/27/al-qaeda-twitter-account-disturbingly-funny-tweets/
May 02 11:03:17 <Brian_S>	:p
May 02 11:03:24 <Hedgehog456>	Is that really Al-Qaeda?
May 02 11:04:03 <Peter-C>	No!
May 02 11:04:06 <Peter-C>	Of course not >_>
May 02 11:05:31 <Hedgehog456>	Imagine if it was
May 02 11:05:40 <Hedgehog456>	:P
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May 02 11:07:21 <Peter-C>	:P
May 02 11:07:31 <Peter-C>	bin Laden is so
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May 02 11:08:36 <Peter-C>	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
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May 02 11:13:56 <Peter-C>	Why is there no photo of bin Laden dead >_>
May 02 11:14:24 <closedmouth>	it was a hoax
May 02 11:14:25 <closedmouth>	fooled ya
May 02 11:14:56 <Peter-C>	D:
May 02 11:16:33 <Chris_G>	yeah, they just killed one of his doubles
May 02 11:16:48 <Peter-C>	D:
May 02 11:16:55 <Peter-C>	His double was a clone
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May 02 11:19:26 <Peter-C>	Ok, WTF
May 02 11:19:34 <Peter-C>	Obama didn't look into the camera!
May 02 11:19:37 <Peter-C>	WTF?!
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May 02 11:21:58 <Hedgehog456>	HE LIEZ
May 02 11:22:35 <Dcoetzee>	Peter-C: That's just because if he looked in the camera we'd be able to tell he's a reptilian alien.
May 02 11:22:42 <Dcoetzee>	Peter-C: No need to worry.
May 02 11:25:21 <Hedgehog456>	Amazon EC2 looks good.
May 02 11:25:37 <Hedgehog456>	Dcoetzee: OH NOES
May 02 11:26:07 <Hedgehog456>	Dcoetzee: Call the Doctor!
May 02 11:26:31 <Peter-C>	LONG DIE BIN LADEN!
May 02 11:28:47 <closedmouth>	EC2?
May 02 11:29:09 <Peter-C>	Amazons cloud
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May 02 11:31:16 <Peter-C>	OMG! http://revoltoftheplebs.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/dead2.jpg
May 02 11:31:19 <Peter-C>	:O
May 02 11:32:57 <Ironholds>	Peter-C: I agree with your latest blog post
May 02 11:33:02 <Peter-C>	O_O
May 02 11:33:05 <Dcoetzee>	...
May 02 11:33:06 <Ironholds>	sort of
May 02 11:33:08 <Peter-C>	WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH IRONHOLDS
May 02 11:33:11 <Peter-C>	Oh, good
May 02 11:33:12 <Ironholds>	you're missing the deeper point
May 02 11:33:14 <Ironholds>	but still
May 02 11:33:19 <Dcoetzee>	I was worried there for a minute.
May 02 11:33:21 <Peter-C>	^
May 02 11:34:42 <Ironholds>	Peter-C: aristotelian question for you
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May 02 11:35:07 <Ironholds>	why is free speech something which governments should provide?
May 02 11:35:43 <Peter-C>	To make the people think they have a say :P
May 02 11:35:54 <Ironholds>	wrong
May 02 11:36:15 <Peter-C>	Why?
May 02 11:36:29 <Ironholds>	you're misunderstanding the question
May 02 11:36:34 <Ironholds>	although it is, admittedly, a trick question
May 02 11:36:43 <Peter-C>	If they think they have a say they will not toss bricks through government buildings
May 02 11:37:05 <Hedgehog456>	Peter-C: ...
May 02 11:37:12 <Ironholds>	wrong
May 02 11:37:14 <Peter-C>	>_>
May 02 11:37:15 <Hedgehog456>	You have never been to Britain
May 02 11:37:22 <Peter-C>	No, I haven't
May 02 11:37:23 <Ironholds>	it's a trick question. think about it.
May 02 11:37:32 <Ironholds>	Hedgehog456: Britain has quite a restrained freedom of speech
May 02 11:37:38 <Peter-C>	Really?
May 02 11:37:41 <Peter-C>	O_o
May 02 11:37:57 <Hedgehog456>	By all these hyperinjunctions and superinjunctions
May 02 11:38:12 <Ironholds>	well, no
May 02 11:38:13 <Hedgehog456>	Big pieces of legal sh*t
May 02 11:38:15 <Ironholds>	that differs from case to case
May 02 11:38:17 <Ironholds>	wrong
May 02 11:38:22 <Ironholds>	superinjunctions are sometimes justified
May 02 11:38:32 <Hedgehog456>	Yes, but sometimes they're weird
May 02 11:38:37 <Ironholds>	correct
May 02 11:38:47 <Ironholds>	but they are not overall quote "big pieces of legal shit"
May 02 11:38:53 <Hedgehog456>	Wasn't there one where a company filed one to stop people from making complaints?
May 02 11:38:57 <Dcoetzee>	The reason freedom of speech is a good idea to guarantee is that it provides a check on government corruption.
May 02 11:39:14 <Ironholds>	also wrong
May 02 11:39:37 <Ironholds>	"why is free speech something which governments should provide" is a trick question. think about it.
May 02 11:39:52 <Hedgehog456>	They can't?
May 02 11:40:11 <Ironholds>	closer
May 02 11:40:13 <Ironholds>	but still no
May 02 11:40:18 <Hedgehog456>	They can just provide the conditions for it to happen?
May 02 11:40:24 <Peter-C>	The government doesn't have free speech?
May 02 11:40:26 <Peter-C>	The people have it
May 02 11:40:26 <Peter-C>	?
May 02 11:40:31 <Ironholds>	Peter-C: correct
May 02 11:40:32 <Peter-C>	:D
May 02 11:40:32 <Ironholds>	well, close enough
May 02 11:40:45 <Ironholds>	government does not provide freedoms - freedoms exist despite governance, not because of it
May 02 11:41:00 <Dcoetzee>	I just assumed when you said government provides free speech you meant government is prevented from creating laws restricting speech. :-P
May 02 11:41:05 <Peter-C>	It is not tangible
May 02 11:41:11 <Dcoetzee>	Which is what it means literally.
May 02 11:41:30 <Dcoetzee>	(subject to usual exceptional conditions)
May 02 11:41:38 <Ironholds>	Dcoetzee: in which case again, it's not something government provides
May 02 11:41:47 <Ironholds>	it's prevented from *not* providing it
May 02 11:41:55 <Ironholds>	or..sorry, bad phrasing
May 02 11:42:03 <Dcoetzee>	Yes but that's obviously what you meant :-P
May 02 11:42:05 <Ironholds>	in that situation, government is still not the source of free speech
May 02 11:42:10 <Peter-C>	^
May 02 11:42:15 <Ironholds>	government is instead restrained from trying to take it away
May 02 11:42:19 <Dcoetzee>	Yes
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May 02 11:43:50 <Dcoetzee>	You could say the "natural state" is that people say whatever they want and nobody stops them. But in the absence of a guarantee of free speech, governments tend to restrict it as a (supposed) means of self-preservation.
May 02 11:44:10 <Peter-C>	Guys: Your missing the point
May 02 11:44:15 <Peter-C>	I got the answer right! :D
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May 02 11:45:16 <Peter-C>	Qcoder00_ - bin Laden is dead! :D
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May 02 11:47:37 <Ironholds>	Dcoetzee: of course, but that still doesn't mean they're the initial source
May 02 11:47:42 <Ironholds>	or capable of providing guarantees
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May 02 11:51:11 *	Pesky wanders in, yawns, stretches, shakes
May 02 11:51:32 <Peter-C>	Pro: al-Qaeda's founder and leader is dead, al-Qaeda will fall apart Con: It would have been better if he were to rot in a cell for the rest of his life, increased terror threat
May 02 11:51:44 *	Pesky wags tail and dps ears at all and sundry
May 02 11:53:15 *	Pesky settles down on rug for snooze
May 02 11:53:33 *	Peter-C kicks Pesky
May 02 11:53:40 <Peter-C>	READ MEH BLAWG
May 02 11:53:40 <Peter-C>	:D
May 02 11:53:51 *	Pesky sleepily shows teeth 
May 02 11:54:01 *	Peter-C eats Pesky
May 02 11:54:12 *	Peter-C runs off to wchool
May 02 11:54:16 *	Pesky sighs, gets up from rug, flattens Peter-C
May 02 11:54:27 <Pesky>	you forgot to wash behind your ears
May 02 11:54:31 *	Pesky remedies
May 02 11:54:45 <Ironholds>	Peter-C: you're an idiot
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May 02 11:54:54 *	Pesky grins at Ironholds
May 02 11:55:01 <Ironholds>	do you have any idea how dispersed the AQ command structure is?
May 02 11:55:06 <Pesky>	Nope
May 02 11:55:06 <Dcoetzee>	Now we're back to normal :-P
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May 02 11:55:23 *	Pesky jumps on Dcoetzee  with licky wolfy greeting
May 02 11:55:42 <Chris_G>	Ironholds, and I suppose you have top secret information about AQ's inner workings? heh
May 02 11:56:00 *	Dcoetzee hugs Pesky
May 02 11:56:03 <Dcoetzee>	I was just off to bed :-)
May 02 11:56:10 <Pesky>	Was that an invitation?
May 02 11:56:17 <Dcoetzee>	If you like :-P
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May 02 11:56:32 *	Pesky sighs.  Too much to do today already
May 02 11:57:27 <Dcoetzee>	I was just saying goodnight to teh soniakitty.
May 02 11:57:35 <Pesky>	Dcoetzee: I Googled yo' ass yesterday ….
May 02 11:57:47 <Dcoetzee>	Awesome, I didn't know my ass was on the web :-)
May 02 11:58:00 <Dcoetzee>	Does it have like fan sites?
May 02 11:58:21 <Pesky>	Don't think so
May 02 11:58:39 <Pesky>	You have some interesting credential;s
May 02 11:58:46 <Pesky>	Indicates brain
May 02 11:58:54 <Pesky>	I like your mare
May 02 11:58:57 <Dcoetzee>	:-) Long way to go still.
May 02 11:59:05 <Dcoetzee>	Don't got my mare anymore but I liked her.
May 02 11:59:08 <Dcoetzee>	And her colt too.
May 02 11:59:10 <Pesky>	Get another
May 02 11:59:14 <Dcoetzee>	Can't afford it.
May 02 11:59:22 <Pesky>	Get a New Forester :o)
May 02 11:59:23 <Dcoetzee>	Monthly board is a bitch.
May 02 11:59:43 <Pesky>	You don't have anywhere you could look after her yourself?
May 02 11:59:50 <Dcoetzee>	Nope nope
May 02 11:59:51 <Ironholds>	these wikimania panels will be awesome
May 02 12:00:04 <Ironholds>	oh GOD
May 02 12:00:08 <Pesky>	With input from volunteers in return for riding?
May 02 12:00:15 <Ironholds>	Erik is going to attend it
May 02 12:00:17 *	Ironholds headdesks
May 02 12:00:20 <Pesky>	Ironholds:  Which panels where?
May 02 12:00:22 <Dcoetzee>	Pesky: I better go for now. :-)
May 02 12:00:25 <Pesky>	kk
May 02 12:00:28 *	Dcoetzee hugs Pesky tight
May 02 12:00:35 *	Pesky licks Dcoetzee 
May 02 12:00:35 <Ironholds>	Pesky: I'm doing two panels at Wikimania, and Erik is apparently attending one of them
May 02 12:00:38 <Dcoetzee>	Pesky: You'll have to visit my bed another time, I'll clear a space :-P
May 02 12:00:42 <Pesky>	lol
May 02 12:00:59 <Dcoetzee>	Night all :-)
May 02 12:01:04 <Ironholds>	Erik is..scary
May 02 12:01:06 <Ironholds>	very scary
May 02 12:01:07 <Pesky>	Ironholds: you ever at risk from burnout?
May 02 12:01:09 *	Dcoetzee waves to Ironholds, Peter-C, Hedgehog456
May 02 12:01:15 <Ironholds>	Pesky: I'm a workaholic
May 02 12:01:15 <Pesky>	I can do scary
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May 02 12:01:20 *	Hedgehog456 waves back to Dcoetzee 
May 02 12:01:26 <Pesky>	Something else we have in common then
May 02 12:01:26 <Ironholds>	Pesky: he's basically a sociopath
May 02 12:01:34 <Ironholds>	gives the impression of having learnt to be human from a book
May 02 12:01:39 <Pesky>	I know the sort
May 02 12:01:41 <Ironholds>	...and also my potential future boss
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May 02 12:01:44 <Pesky>	eeek
May 02 12:01:45 <Ironholds>	so it's double-awkwardness
May 02 12:02:04 <Pesky>	Why would you want to choose a boss like that?
May 02 12:02:26 <Pesky>	People who complain about their jobs, I'm always inclined to ask them who applied fo same ….
May 02 12:02:26 <Ironholds>	you get to choose bosses?
May 02 12:02:31 <Ironholds>	which magic industry do you work in?
May 02 12:02:33 <Pesky>	Course you do
May 02 12:02:46 <Ironholds>	well, he's a *potential* boss, IF I get this job
May 02 12:02:47 <Pesky>	Don't work in idustry any more
May 02 12:02:54 <Ironholds>	in which case he's so far up the food chain it's probably irrelevant
May 02 12:03:06 <Pesky>	Research his weak points :o)
May 02 12:03:18 <Pesky>	… and his push-buttons
May 02 12:03:32 <Pesky>	Avoid bad buttons, work out how to use good buttons
May 02 12:03:34 <Ironholds>	no thanks
May 02 12:03:53 <Pesky>	If you have a manipulative boss, you have to know how to out-manipulate him
May 02 12:03:59 <Ironholds>	I didn't say manipulative
May 02 12:04:04 <Ironholds>	plus, as said, so far up the food chain...
May 02 12:04:07 <Pesky>	socio's usually are
May 02 12:04:14 <Ironholds>	anyway, POTENTIAL boss. *if* I get this job. Which I probably won't
May 02 12:04:15 *	Pesky gotta go deal with parent - back soon
May 02 12:04:18 <Ironholds>	enjoy
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May 02 12:08:36 <Douche>	Awwww
May 02 12:08:43 <Douche>	Google's logo for today iscute.
May 02 12:10:00 *	Hedgehog456 huggles Douche tightly
May 02 12:10:12 *	Douche huggles Hedgehog456 
May 02 12:10:17 <Douche>	and a good morning!
May 02 12:10:18 <Douche>	<3
May 02 12:10:21 <Hedgehog456>	I'm going to see what irssi's like
May 02 12:10:27 <Douche>	oh
May 02 12:10:29 <Douche>	<3 irssi
May 02 12:10:30 <Hedgehog456>	Good morning to you, sir!
May 02 12:10:31 <Douche>	:D
May 02 12:10:42 *	Douche also lkes the GUI version of irssi
May 02 12:10:42 <Douche>	macirssi
May 02 12:10:43 <Douche>	<3
May 02 12:10:57 <Hedgehog456>	Sh*t, just tried to download 512 images in one go
May 02 12:11:14 <Hedgehog456>	My browser is fried
May 02 12:11:22 <Hedgehog456>	And it wasn't porn
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May 02 12:12:03 <Hedgehog456>	Just public domain images for a programming project of mine
May 02 12:12:57 <Hedgehog456>	:(
May 02 12:13:10 <Hedgehog456>	Byebye Firefoc
May 02 12:13:13 <Hedgehog456>	*Firefoks
May 02 12:13:27 <Hedgehog456>	:(
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May 02 12:13:58 <Douche>	ew
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May 02 12:14:09 <Douche>	see you later <3
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May 02 12:51:07 <Pesky>	bk … finally!
May 02 12:51:28 <Pesky>	Why do central heating boilers always go wrong on Bank Holidays?
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May 02 13:03:07 <Hedgehog456>	Because they do
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May 02 13:28:09 <Xarn>	Apparently, Bin Laden had a 25 million dollar price tag on his head. What kind of ridiculous, designer turban was he wearing?
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May 02 13:31:28 <closedmouth>	thank you ladies and gentlemen
May 02 13:34:36 <Bejinhan>	Xarn: xD
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May 02 13:56:25 <Qcoder00>	Anyone here an expert on Wikipedia templates?
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May 02 14:04:35 <MC8>	lawl http://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/the-presidents-1337-tweet
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May 02 14:13:26 *	Douche is at work shhhhh.
May 02 14:13:27 <closedmouth>	not too tight
May 02 14:13:33 <closedmouth>	don't want that fluid all over you
May 02 14:13:43 <Hedgehog456>	O_o
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May 02 14:13:49 <Fluff|sleep>	...
May 02 14:13:55 *	Hedgehog456 huggles D_ouche even more
May 02 14:13:55 <Douche>	i got 2 GB of data to analyze..
May 02 14:13:56 <Fluff|sleep>	"prune" "data"
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May 02 14:16:05 <Headbomb|Laptop>	Qcoder00: templates?
May 02 14:16:12 <Headbomb|Laptop>	what about them?
May 02 14:16:32 <Qcoder00>	OH just that I need one template re-written in terms of aother
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May 02 14:17:00 <Headbomb|Laptop>	which?
May 02 14:17:03 <Headbomb|Laptop>	and which?
May 02 14:17:13 <Qcoder00>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_MTA_busline needs re-writing to use the recomended replacment
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May 02 14:17:31 <FinancialEscapis>	.....?
May 02 14:17:42 <Headbomb|Laptop>	which is....
May 02 14:17:49 <FinancialEscapis>	Tell me you're awake, please.....
May 02 14:17:53 <FinancialEscapis>	Ok.
May 02 14:18:18 <Qcoder00>	Headbomb:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_bus_line
May 02 14:18:33 <Qcoder00>	Once re-written instances of the first template should be substed and cleaned up
May 02 14:18:39 <FinancialEscapis>	So, if the economy doesn't turn around by the time I graduate college, how is it if I just move to India to escape my student loans?
May 02 14:19:03 <FinancialEscapis>	Their economy grows as fast as China, and WE OUTSOURCE OUR JOBS THERE anyway, so why not chase after the jobs they take from us?
May 02 14:19:37 <FinancialEscapis>	I'll take Hindi this fall, so when I speak both languages, would I not be a fine asset to most any company there?
May 02 14:19:46 <FinancialEscapis>	most any *employer there?
May 02 14:19:55 <Qcoder00>	Could you afford to work on what they pay the locals?
May 02 14:20:31 <FinancialEscapis>	Qcoder00: My disability check is $674. Over there, it's probably what secondary schoolteachers are paid.
May 02 14:20:42 <Headbomb|Laptop>	Qcoder00: wouldn't it be simpler to simpler convert the 53 articles using the template to the modern one?
May 02 14:20:55 <Headbomb|Laptop>	AWB style
May 02 14:21:10 <Qcoder00>	No
May 02 14:21:17 <Qcoder00>	because you need to do param conversion
May 02 14:21:22 <Qcoder00>	But point taken
May 02 14:21:22 <FinancialEscapis>	The locals might not know English so well, and often they don't have an American education. I'm sure they put an epic premium on American-educated candidates.
May 02 14:21:27 <Headbomb|Laptop>	exactly why it would be simpler
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May 02 14:21:36 <Qcoder00>	Headbomb : If you can do it with AWB go ahead ;)
May 02 14:21:40 <Headbomb|Laptop>	you can just have find/replace logic and everything gets happy
May 02 14:21:40 <Theo10011>	hehe
May 02 14:21:42 <Theo10011>	Epic!
May 02 14:22:00 <Headbomb|Laptop>	well i don't know what's supposed to be converted to what
May 02 14:22:35 <Qcoder00>	That was why I needed someone to re-write the old template in terms of the new one ;)
May 02 14:22:42 <Headbomb|Laptop>	but rewriting the template seems like the worse choice possible
May 02 14:23:16 <Headbomb|Laptop>	unless you're thinking of a mask
May 02 14:23:18 <FinancialEscapis>	Besides, [[Hyperinflation]] is happening to the US dollar soon, so I hope that I'm already living fine enough over there by the time our economy gets sucked down.
May 02 14:23:23 <Headbomb|Laptop>	a mask could work
May 02 14:23:59 <Gigs-->	I had a dream I was banned from here because I was talking to one of those nick-spammers and there was guilt by association.   Get out of my head!
May 02 14:24:07 <Headbomb|Laptop>	maybe that's what you meant all along and i didn't clue in
May 02 14:24:34 <FinancialEscapis>	Qcoder00: ^ and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7icGyVNI3U&NR=1
May 02 14:24:43 <Qcoder00>	What is a mask in this context?
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May 02 14:29:22 <FinancialEscapis>	Qcoder00: ----------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
May 02 14:31:16 <FinancialEscapis>	Ok Qcoder00, maybe you were confused and didn't realize they were up arrows. Here, is this better?: ↑↑↑↑↑
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May 02 14:35:18 <Qcoder00>	The reason Helathcare is cheaper in India is that there Healthcare systems has the lobbying power to tell Big business where to stick it...
May 02 14:38:35 <YKDies>	wherethesundontshine
May 02 14:39:50 <closedmouth>	YK?
May 02 14:41:45 <Qcoder00>	Glenn beck's an idiot
May 02 14:41:59 <YKDies>	what is it, closedmouth?
May 02 14:42:09 <Qcoder00>	If you had National healthcare in the US , things would get a LOT cheaper
May 02 14:42:11 <Qcoder00>	;)
May 02 14:42:39 <YKDies>	Taiwan even has a national healthcard, and a central database of all patients. India might have something like that, but at least something more efficient than we have.
May 02 14:44:59 <Qcoder00>	BTW ##politics exists
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May 02 15:21:15 <Qcoder00>	Erm
May 02 15:21:19 <Qcoder00>	Any admins?
May 02 15:21:29 <Qcoder00>	The bot that looks for untagged images may have broken down?
May 02 15:21:42 <Qcoder00>	I'm seeing a much larger number of them than usual
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May 02 15:30:24 <Thehelpfulone>	Qcoder00: shoot
May 02 15:30:40 <Qcoder00>	I am seeing a lot more untagged images than I normally do
May 02 15:30:47 <Qcoder00>	Is the bot that tags them borken?
May 02 15:31:09 <Thehelpfulone>	Qcoder00: what's the bot?
May 02 15:31:33 <Thehelpfulone>	Qcoder00: ok, give me an image that is usually tagged and I'll find hte name of the bot
May 02 15:32:02 <Qcoder00>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LWGEND3.JPG was untagged  and would normally get tagged by ImageTaggingBot as having no license
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May 02 15:33:25 <Qcoder00>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Church_of_Francis_Xavier.jpg would have got tagged for no license
May 02 15:33:28 <Qcoder00>	etc..
May 02 15:33:42 <Qcoder00>	http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/UntaggedImages.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&since=-7d&until=&img_user_text=&order=img_timestamp&max=150&order=img_timestamp&format=html
May 02 15:33:44 <Thehelpfulone>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/ImageTaggingBot
May 02 15:33:49 <Thehelpfulone>	didn't run for the past couple of days
May 02 15:33:53 <Qcoder00>	Typically I only see about 5-6 entires
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May 02 15:34:02 <Thehelpfulone>	send a message to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Carnildo Qcoder00
May 02 15:34:05 <Qcoder00>	in the toolserver list , today i am seeing at least 150
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May 02 15:36:25 <Qcoder00>	Thehelpfulone:  Done so
May 02 15:36:49 <Thehelpfulone>	ok
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May 02 15:53:28 <gde33>	why is the "create article" link missing from the search page?
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May 02 15:54:42 <wctaiwan>	has it ever been there, gde33?
May 02 15:54:49 <gde33>	it can be useful to see the state of the article, have to know if it was created before, why it was deleted.
May 02 15:54:58 <gde33>	currently there is no way to get to the red link page
May 02 15:55:12 <gde33>	it wasnt always like that
May 02 15:55:39 <mabdul>	you can get there
May 02 15:55:40 <wctaiwan>	There is no article creation link on search page, but if you click on a red link you do get a page with creation links and such..
May 02 15:55:51 <gde33>	When I want to write an article the wiki should allow me to do that.
May 02 15:55:57 <wctaiwan>	e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/See_what_I_mean?
May 02 15:55:58 <mabdul>	you only have to search for the page and there is a redlink in the search rresults page
May 02 15:56:10 <gde33>	manually typing the url is not a good solution
May 02 15:56:23 <gde33>	mabdul: ah, if you are logged in you mean?
May 02 15:56:27 <mabdul>	no
May 02 15:56:36 <gde33>	then I'm blind
May 02 15:56:38 <mabdul>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=See+what+I+mean&go=Go
May 02 15:56:39 <mabdul>	there
May 02 15:56:41 *	gde33 looks again
May 02 15:56:45 <mabdul>	You may create the page "See what I mean", but consider checking the search results below to see whether it is already covered.
May 02 15:56:52 <mabdul>	see what i mean is a redlink
May 02 15:56:58 <gde33>	it doesnt say that here!
May 02 15:57:11 <mabdul>	yep, click on the link
May 02 15:57:13 <wctaiwan>	mabdul: what theme are you using
May 02 15:57:15 <wctaiwan>	also, calm down
May 02 15:57:23 <mabdul>	o.O
May 02 15:57:25 <mabdul>	oh
May 02 15:57:31 <wctaiwan>	because afaik there is no red link on search results..
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May 02 15:57:37 <wctaiwan>	unless you're still on monobook?
May 02 15:57:58 <mabdul>	ehm modern
May 02 15:57:59 <mabdul>	^^
May 02 15:58:01 *	Thehelpfulone is on monobook
May 02 15:58:02 <gde33>	let me make a screen shot
May 02 15:58:19 *	mabdul on modern
May 02 15:58:35 <mabdul>	yep, that might be the problem
May 02 15:58:53 <mabdul>	modern is really spartian, but I love this ^^
May 02 15:58:59 <wctaiwan>	gde33: I see what you're saying, but I'm suspecting that if there had been a change, it was one done with community consensus
May 02 15:59:11 <wctaiwan>	because it does sound fairly significant
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May 02 15:59:39 <gde33>	http://img708.imageshack.us/f/wikipediai.jpg/
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May 02 16:02:47 <gde33>	if an article doesn't exist, is it ok to use the talk page in stead of writing a crappy stub?
May 02 16:02:53 <gde33>	or will that be deleted?
May 02 16:03:15 <wctaiwan>	I think the usual way of doing if you don't feel like putting it in mainspace it is writing in your userspace, though Thehelpfulone would probably know more.
May 02 16:03:19 <zscout370>	gde33: you can use your userpage for that
May 02 16:03:35 <zscout370>	so User:Gde33/Titlegoeshere
May 02 16:03:41 <Thehelpfulone>	use your userspace, yes :)
May 02 16:03:42 <gde33>	I use my ip
May 02 16:03:52 <Thehelpfulone>	gde33: can you create an account?
May 02 16:04:08 <gde33>	to much trolling
May 02 16:04:21 <wctaiwan>	:s
May 02 16:04:23 <wctaiwan>	what?
May 02 16:05:13 <gde33>	I only want to help write articles not take part in the drama. ;)
May 02 16:06:49 <wctaiwan>	You don't have to. Stay out of Wikipedia: space, stay out of arguments. Unless your edit is controversial, I really don't see people getting into drama without putting themselves in them... (reading about wikidrama is one of my less appropriate pastimes)
May 02 16:07:13 <zscout370>	gde33: have you tried looking at Articles for Creation?
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May 02 16:07:41 <AMERIKA>	AMERICA FUCK YEAH!
May 02 16:08:50 <AMERIKA>	!ops AMERICA FUCK YEAH!
May 02 16:08:59 <gde33>	wctaiwan: the problem is that all unimportant non-controversial topics have pretty much been covered.
May 02 16:09:22 <Alpha_Quadrant>	AMERIKA: can we help you?
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May 02 16:09:34 <AMERIKA>	FUCK YEAH!
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May 02 16:09:52 <AMERIKA>	KFP: FUCK YEAH
May 02 16:09:55 <wctaiwan>	are you saying you want to make contentious edits without having a consistent identity so you can "stay out of drama"?
May 02 16:09:57 <Alpha_Quadrant>	AMERIKA: do you need help with Wikipedia?
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May 02 16:10:06 <gde33>	wctaiwan: exactly
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May 02 16:10:08 <wctaiwan>	because that's just not the way to go about it..
May 02 16:10:16 <gde33>	oh but it is ;)
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May 02 16:11:03 <wctaiwan>	Please don't.
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May 02 16:13:21 <gde33>	we need an article about the [[Permaculture Research Institute]]
May 02 16:13:34 <gde33>	I consider this the most important institute in the world :)
May 02 16:13:40 <gde33>	is that biased enough?
May 02 16:15:15 <gde33>	this would then become the most important video on the web http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gPvsl9ni-4
May 02 16:15:59 <gde33>	we have this already http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Lawton
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May 02 16:16:50 <wctaiwan>	gde33: If you are interested in the subject, you're of course encouraged to create an article on it provided that you can establish its notability, write in a neutral tone and find reliable sources (by Wikipedia standards) to back up the article. But somehow I don't think that's how you intend to work.
May 02 16:17:24 <gde33>	then you should assume good faith from now on
May 02 16:18:02 <wctaiwan>	a bit difficult, considering what you've said so far.
May 02 16:18:18 <gde33>	you can do it ;)
May 02 16:18:19 <wctaiwan>	but again, if I am indeed mistaken, by all means go ahead.
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May 02 16:18:59 <gde33>	it would be good to first expand Geoff's article a bit
May 02 16:20:01 <zscout370>	my suggestion is maybe add a few lines to that institute if Geoff was the founder
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May 02 16:29:26 <gde33>	looking over the wikiversity stuff now
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May 02 16:40:08 <wctaiwan>	is calling bin Laden a terrorist NPOV by WP standards?
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May 02 16:41:50 <zscout370>	as long as we include other viewpoints of OBL, it is fine
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May 02 16:43:01 <wctaiwan>	idk, I'm asking because on zh someone mentioned that as POV and someone concurred
May 02 16:43:06 <wctaiwan>	just felt it was a bit.. contrived?
May 02 16:43:32 <wctaiwan>	(of course, there's another comment below that saying "farewell Laden, The US are the biggest terrorists.")
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May 02 16:44:46 <zscout370>	and there will be things that ZH will believe differently than we do
May 02 16:45:10 <derp>	Hedgehog456: <3
May 02 16:45:27 <zscout370>	people do see OBL as a hero and Bush (and sometimes Obama) as the great terrorist evil
May 02 16:45:42 <wctaiwan>	yes zscout370, but the person who originally raised the concern cited that the english WP does not use that in the first paragraph
May 02 16:45:52 <wctaiwan>	rather saying he's a "militant"
May 02 16:46:17 *	Hedgehog456 huggles derp tightly
May 02 16:46:28 *	derp huggles Hedgehog456 tightly back.
May 02 16:46:48 <derp>	so i pruned the data to a nice layered 512mb of data.
May 02 16:46:56 <derp>	brb a tic
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May 02 16:47:33 <zscout370>	wctaiwan: at least say within the view of the US Government, he was most wanted terrorist
May 02 16:47:33 <zscout370>	and that is what we done at en
May 02 16:47:40 *	Douche gives Hedgehog456 a crumpet.
May 02 16:47:59 *	Fluffernutter sniffles
May 02 16:48:37 *	Douche gives Fluffernutter a giant hug!
May 02 16:48:37 <Fluffernutter>	aw yay
May 02 16:48:39 *	Fluffernutter is in much need of hugs today
May 02 16:48:42 <Douche>	so is iron gone?
May 02 16:48:43 <zscout370>	and speaking about our article, why do we have information on Ubuntu on OBL's article?
May 02 16:49:00 <Fluffernutter>	he's leaving this afternoon
May 02 16:49:18 <wctaiwan>	the chinese wp says "he was the leader of al-Qaeda, which is considered a global terrorist organisation by many"
May 02 16:49:18 <zscout370>	right
May 02 16:49:20 <Douche>	slap him for me pleas.e
May 02 16:49:20 <wctaiwan>	which I suppose is fair enough except for the 'many'
May 02 16:49:33 *	Douche gives Fluffernutter a strawberry muffin.
May 02 16:49:34 *	wctaiwan glomps Fluffernutter 
May 02 16:49:36 <zscout370>	and that is where the cites come into play
May 02 16:50:23 <wctaiwan>	yeah zscout370, except ehh.. I don't pay much attention to zh. and to be honest, I don't have a very high opinion of it either.
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May 02 16:50:42 <Fluffernutter>	got any xanax instead?
May 02 16:50:50 <wctaiwan>	I'd trust en for well known topics and niche but uncontroversial topics, but zh.. :/
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May 02 16:51:29 <Doh5678>	Yay!
May 02 16:52:34 <Douche>	Fluffernutter: i'll give you some percodan instead.
May 02 16:53:36 <Douche>	once i get home, i'm going to the polling station.
May 02 16:53:42 <Fluffernutter>	will percodan make me stop panicking?
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May 02 16:54:11 <Douche>	dunno
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May 02 16:54:20 <Douche>	but a cute hottie jut passed in front of me
May 02 16:54:22 <wctaiwan>	Fluffernutter: find some distraction :/
May 02 16:54:23 <Douche>	:P
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May 02 16:54:37 <Douche>	oh
May 02 16:54:39 <Douche>	send your dog :p
May 02 16:55:27 *	wctaiwan has no dog
May 02 16:55:27 <Fluffernutter>	i'm watching tv, chatting on irc, and reading my rss feeds
May 02 16:55:27 <Fluffernutter>	and i still have a significant portion of my brain devoted to panic
May 02 16:55:27 <Douche>	I'm eating and ircing
May 02 16:55:27 <Douche>	:P
May 02 16:55:27 <Fluffernutter>	oh, and i'm eating
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May 02 16:55:27 <Douche>	<3
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May 02 16:55:28 *	Douche s teals Fluffernutter 's noms.
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May 02 16:55:28 *	Fluffernutter shakes head, sobs quietl
May 02 16:55:28 <Fluffernutter>	y
May 02 16:55:39 *	Douche makes Fluffernutter a quiche!
May 02 16:55:44 *	Hedgehog456 huggles Fluffernutter tightly
May 02 16:55:51 <wctaiwan>	huh, I never knew teal was anything but a colour
May 02 16:55:51 <Douche>	a swiss cheese quiche!
May 02 16:55:55 *	Douche huggles Fluffernutter tightly
May 02 16:55:58 *	wctaiwan nicks the quiche and noms it in one bite
May 02 16:55:59 *	Douche gives Fluffernutter a quiche!
May 02 16:56:13 <wctaiwan>	sorry it looked so good T_T
May 02 16:56:13 <Fluffernutter>	heh
May 02 16:56:18 *	Fluffernutter doesn't much like quiche anyway, you can have it wctaiwan
May 02 16:56:24 <Douche>	i make kick-ass soufflés
May 02 16:56:24 <Douche>	:P
May 02 16:56:31 <wctaiwan>	thank you ^_^
May 02 16:56:43 *	Douche gives Fluffernutter broccoli
May 02 16:57:09 <Fluffernutter>	ew
May 02 16:57:14 <Douche>	and another hottie just passed bu
May 02 16:57:24 <Douche>	:p
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May 02 16:57:39 <Douche>	he was more a hipster hottie
May 02 16:58:01 *	Fluffernutter already has more hipster hottie on her hands than is strictly healthful
May 02 16:58:12 <Douche>	oh
May 02 16:58:17 <Douche>	coif ironholds
May 02 16:58:20 <Douche>	::P
May 02 16:58:55 <wctaiwan>	he? I didn't know hottie refers to guys.
May 02 16:59:11 <Qcoder00>	ROFL
May 02 16:59:23 *	Douche is gay btw wctaiwan :P
May 02 16:59:32 <Fluffernutter>	coifing him would wake him up, and he is a gigantic asshole when you wake him up
May 02 16:59:52 <Douche>	well, give him uppers and downers instead
May 02 16:59:53 <Douche>	:P
May 02 17:00:06 <wctaiwan>	Douche: I suspected, but thought it might be rude to ask. (or ask whether you're female, which would be judgmental)
May 02 17:00:40 <Douche>	heh
May 02 17:01:11 *	wctaiwan is really anal about PC except when talking to close friends
May 02 17:01:55 <Fluffernutter>	Douche, did you see my tweet a little while ago? Next time i get him near me, I'm doping his food with uppers and downers depending on the time of day
May 02 17:02:05 <Douche>	heh
May 02 17:02:06 <Douche>	good idea
May 02 17:02:07 <Douche>	:D
May 02 17:02:09 <Douche>	i did se eit
May 02 17:02:10 <Douche>	:D
May 02 17:02:13 <Douche>	:o
May 02 17:02:16 <Douche>	it's 12:02
May 02 17:02:18 <Douche>	i should go
May 02 17:02:25 *	Douche gotta catch the train
May 02 17:02:29 <wctaiwan>	bye
May 02 17:02:46 <Douche>	the station is just next to where i am
May 02 17:02:50 <Douche>	so it's pretty close.
May 02 17:02:59 <Douche>	and i don't even need to go outside
May 02 17:03:00 <Douche>	:P
May 02 17:03:08 <geniice>	alright. I have tea
May 02 17:03:22 <Douche>	yum
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May 02 17:04:14 *	Fluffernutter wants bubble tea
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May 02 17:04:25 <geniice>	we've been through this
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May 02 17:04:51 <Douche>	so toodles hunnies
May 02 17:04:52 <Douche>	<3
May 02 17:04:55 <geniice>	bubble tea is a perverted abomination that only americans could produce
May 02 17:05:04 <Douche>	geniice: it's asian
May 02 17:05:05 <Douche>	:P
May 02 17:05:05 <wctaiwan>	uhh, isn't it from taiwan?
May 02 17:05:08 <Fluffernutter>	bye, Douchey
May 02 17:05:13 <Douche>	yep
May 02 17:05:14 <wctaiwan>	unless we're talking about different things
May 02 17:05:17 <Douche>	it's from taiwan
May 02 17:05:18 <Fluffernutter>	bubble tea is from taiwan afaik, yes
May 02 17:05:18 <Douche>	:)
May 02 17:05:43 <wctaiwan>	you get it in the US?
May 02 17:05:50 <geniice>	See this is what happens when we fail to conqueror somewhere
May 02 17:05:56 <wctaiwan>	I'm Taiwanese and I've had it like, less than 10 times in my 18 years of being alive :P
May 02 17:05:57 <Douche>	and Canada.
May 02 17:06:00 <Fluffernutter>	wctaiwan, yep
May 02 17:06:15 <Douche>	Altough the last bubble tea i drank was 3 years ago
May 02 17:06:16 <Douche>	:P
May 02 17:06:18 <wctaiwan>	not my cup of tea (groan) but whatever floats your boat
May 02 17:06:18 <Douche>	and it was badly prepped.
May 02 17:06:33 <wctaiwan>	geniice: please do. I'm sure many of us here would love it.
May 02 17:06:38 *	Douche had a tummyache after it.
May 02 17:06:54 <wctaiwan>	aw.
May 02 17:08:10 <Douche>	so  inever drank bubble tea after.
May 02 17:08:30 <Douche>	I prefer my tea to be real and served in a real café
May 02 17:10:05 <Douche>	bbl
May 02 17:10:07 <Douche>	<3
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May 02 17:11:39 <juboxor>	I bez blasterphastique!!!
May 02 17:12:42 <Hedgehog456>	...
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May 02 17:13:06 <juboxor>	I has so muc IP address that them op(pressor)s don't know what to do if I go intentionally astray
May 02 17:13:14 <wctaiwan>	Fluffernutter: oddly, my "comfort drink" is coke, which is as american as mcdonald's and apple pie..
May 02 17:13:33 <wctaiwan>	/uninteresting tidbit
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May 02 17:13:55 <Fluffernutter>	the most coke-addicted person i know is ironholds, who is about as non-american as it gets
May 02 17:14:02 <wctaiwan>	heh.
May 02 17:14:18 <wctaiwan>	I used to have a teacher who was literally addicted to diet coke in that she kept a box of it in her classroom.
May 02 17:14:24 <juboxor>	wctaiwan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Coca-Cola
May 02 17:15:07 <wctaiwan>	juboxor: I know about a lot of that. and guess what, I still drink it :P
May 02 17:15:20 <juboxor>	Soft drink bottling industry labor activist leaders murdered by death-squad paid by the Coca-Cola bottling licence holder
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May 02 17:15:39 <juboxor>	wctaiwan: damn it I cannot belive you
May 02 17:15:50 *	wctaiwan sighs
May 02 17:16:02 <juboxor>	you prbbly support Nestlé as well
May 02 17:16:13 <wctaiwan>	I also use Apple computers. Apple is the company that contracted Foxconn.
May 02 17:16:23 <wctaiwan>	I don't know much about nestlé.
May 02 17:16:39 <wctaiwan>	the thing is, I don't like them as companies. I like their products. Now let me have my tooth decay and overpriced iPod.
May 02 17:17:23 <wctaiwan>	also, to be honest... I don't think Coca-Cola supports the assassinations?
May 02 17:17:46 <juboxor>	and Shell... Yeah who cares about [[Ken Saro-Viva]] who was murdered by the Nigerian gov't and Shell would merely have to moved a finger and it would not have been done but Shell Corp. didn't care to infere to the Front-Right defender of Ogoni-land and Ogoni-people 's murder by hanging
May 02 17:17:59 <juboxor>	* have to ahvae
May 02 17:18:02 <juboxor>	* have to have
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May 02 17:18:52 <wctaiwan>	I'm a person. Not an activist. It's great if you choose to be the latter and as long as you aren't bat crazy and pushy I probably admire you, but it's a choice for me to make, not for others to make for me.
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May 02 17:22:23 <geniice>	wctaiwan I'm sure the the higher levels of Coca-Cola neither know no care and work very hard to keep it that way. It's not credible that the local factory managers don't have some involement
May 02 17:22:23 <geniice>	yet another castle no one cares about http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Netley_castle_april_2011.JPG
May 02 17:22:23 <wctaiwan>	geniice: the bottlers aren't directly owned by Coca-Cola though, no?
May 02 17:22:53 <geniice>	wctaiwan it's complicated. It's whats called in the trade bloody hands at arms length
May 02 17:23:37 <wctaiwan>	I'm not saying that makes it alright, just that Coca-Cola simply chose bad business partners and are probably not involved in the actual details of keeping trouble away from bottling plants.
May 02 17:24:33 <Qcoder00>	OK Template person needed
May 02 17:24:33 <Qcoder00>	{{UK-LEG ext is not behaving
May 02 17:24:41 <Qcoder00>	{{UK-LEG ext}} is not behaving
May 02 17:25:03 <Qcoder00>	DESPITE me doing excatly what the documentation for parser functions SAYS you do
May 02 17:26:23 <wctaiwan>	I can see where juboxor is coming from, but to me it's kind of.. meh? As someone who is lucky to be born in a relatively modern, free and stable country, someone somewhere is always suffering for my decisions. I'd rather try to support those people through say, donations, rather than consciously avoiding products from any company that may be directly or by proxy harming the welfare of the less fortunate.
May 02 17:26:23 <wctaiwan>	It's just too hard
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May 02 17:27:37 <juboxor>	wctaiwan: in .fi liek 98.5% of homicides get solved
May 02 17:27:52 <juboxor>	other crime the police don't care much
May 02 17:27:53 <wctaiwan>	is that bad or good?
May 02 17:28:23 <juboxor>	wctaiwan: I'll take it as good as it lessens the possibility of your's truly getting assasinated
May 02 17:28:35 <juboxor>	or killed accidentally
May 02 17:28:41 <juboxor>	let me tell you folks
May 02 17:28:41 <wctaiwan>	Fair enough.
May 02 17:29:16 <juboxor>	getting killed accidentally, especially from causes of your own stupidity, sucks ass
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May 02 17:30:52 <juboxor>	dying of own stupidity is always stupid
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May 02 17:33:05 <Irish_Eddy>	I can mark edits as checked on the Dutch Wikipedia, why can't I do that on the English WP?
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May 02 17:34:08 <zscout370>	I don't think we have it set up yet
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May 02 17:37:16 <juboxor>	stupidy can sometimes be extreme... like there are 3 dead junkies in Finland just because they wouldn't bother to take the minute it takes to look up [[Fentanyl]] where it says that 100 micrograms of Fentanyl is as strong as 10 milligrams of morphine and make the difficult  calculation that the shit is 100x stronger then morphine and all of them 3 junkies are dead junkies..
May 02 17:37:19 <juboxor>	idiots..
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May 02 17:39:56 <MC8>	Does anyone know which ts tool it is that counts the number of edits to an article by each user?
May 02 17:40:09 <juboxor>	Fentanyl is great stuff... My late grand-mother (may she rest in peace) had it in patches a lot of patches because she had this thing of her leg dying causing lot of pain so very strong painkillers were essentially needed in the last stages of her life (may she rest in peace)
May 02 17:40:21 <Gigs-->	juboxor: several short acting surgical anesthetics aren't even scheduled in the US
May 02 17:40:29 <Gigs-->	because they are too hard to use without killing yourself hehe
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May 02 17:41:40 <juboxor>	Gigs--: have you heard how the moscow theatre siege ended
May 02 17:41:54 <Gigs-->	the one where they used sedation gas?
May 02 17:41:57 <Gigs-->	yeah that was a mess
May 02 17:42:05 <Anna_Frodesiak>	OE is that you?
May 02 17:42:46 <Gigs-->	that is the one thing that makes a star trek style phaser so hard... it's really hard to incapacitate someone without risking death
May 02 17:43:08 <juboxor>	[[Sleeping gas]] says something like "unidentified fentanyl carrying drung used in the Moscow Theatre Siege" I remember tens of hostages dying from the gas
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May 02 17:43:22 <juboxor>	emphasis on "unidentified gas"
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May 02 17:44:19 <Gigs-->	the crisis article says 170 died total and there were 50 captors
May 02 17:44:28 <Gigs-->	so they killed more hostages than militants
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May 02 17:45:24 <juboxor>	Gigs--: well what would you do with a bunch of terrorists with AK-47's and "dead man switch" improvised explosives ?
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May 02 17:46:00 <Gigs-->	attack with overwhelming force would be the standard procedure
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May 02 17:47:59 <Gigs-->	I guess a similar situation might be the Waco Branch Dividians, but a lot died there too becuase of the fire
May 02 17:48:09 <Gigs-->	it's not clear whether they were committing suicide though
May 02 17:52:03 <albel727>	lol. deadman switch bombs, hostages, and booby trapped building and you're like "rush lots of forces in there, why don't we?". way to make lots of fresh grinded meat, dude. thanks god you're in no position to make decisions in such situations.
May 02 17:52:30 <Gigs-->	the sedative gas would have triggered "dead man's switch" bombs too, wouldn't it?
May 02 17:53:22 <albel727>	yeah, but adding your forces to the resulting fresh meat isn't going to help either, don't you think?
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May 02 17:56:20 <juboxor>	Gigs--: yeah. sry. my bad.. if you gas out a person with a "dead man switch" you'll detonate the thing
May 02 17:56:42 <gde33>	MC8 asked for a tool that counts edits per user. I forget what it was called. What was the name again?
May 02 17:57:12 <juboxor>	Gigs--: otoh. if you kill a man with a dead man switch the hostages are likely to die
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May 02 17:58:21 <juboxor>	LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!
May 02 17:58:50 <gde33>	no one remembers?
May 02 17:59:06 <gde33>	google isn't very helpful with all the wikipedia spam
May 02 17:59:20 <MC8>	I know there is one, I can't find it :P
May 02 17:59:24 <juboxor>	gde33: editcount ?
May 02 17:59:34 <juboxor>	I've no URL
May 02 17:59:44 <MC8>	A breakdown of edits per user of an article
May 02 18:00:02 <gde33>	yes, something to help use this 1980 style archive system
May 02 18:00:18 <juboxor>	gde33: #something toolserver something
May 02 18:00:28 <gde33>	hah
May 02 18:00:48 <gde33>	ok nvm, there is a reason it wasnt upgraded out of the 80's and this is it :P
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May 02 18:01:37 <gde33>	I tried to understand the parameters of the xml version of the archive but was not sucessful
May 02 18:02:57 <gde33>	if I only had that url with offset I could make a rly nice ajax web log (which is what it technically is a log on the web)
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May 02 18:03:43 <gde33>	that would sure help us apriciate ppls hard work :)
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May 02 18:07:02 <Tatsujin>	The Bin ladin family visiting Falun in Sweden during the 70s http://blog.zeit.de/joerglau/files/2011/05/binladen_lg.jpg
May 02 18:07:19 <Herodotus>	Tell me more.
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May 02 18:07:19 <derp>	:o
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May 02 18:08:49 <gde33>	Why doesnt the article about this virtual person say his FBI file doesn't include 911?
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May 02 18:10:03 <gde33>	fox news as judge and jury
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May 02 18:10:20 <derp>	gde33: you know what's gonna be interesting to follow tonight?
May 02 18:10:33 <derp>	starting from 9:30 PM eastern?
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May 02 18:11:15 <gde33>	derp: you mean you still own a Tee Vee?
May 02 18:11:25 <derp>	gde33: :P
May 02 18:11:38 <gde33>	I bet you believe anything they tell you. hah
May 02 18:11:41 <derp>	gde33: see who's canada's newest PM
May 02 18:11:42 <derp>	:P
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May 02 18:12:04 <MC8>	(panics)
May 02 18:12:04 <derp>	:o
May 02 18:12:04 <derp>	oh noes
May 02 18:12:04 <derp>	netsplit
May 02 18:12:06 <derp>	noooooooooo
May 02 18:12:07 <gde33>	derp: what about the royal wedding?
May 02 18:12:14 <gde33>	surely you got to see that?
May 02 18:12:15 <derp>	gde33: it was last frida
May 02 18:12:17 <derp>	yes
May 02 18:12:17 <derp>	:)
May 02 18:12:23 <derp>	i slept trough it
May 02 18:12:23 <derp>	:)
May 02 18:12:33 <gde33>	oh, how did that happen?
May 02 18:12:33 <juboxor>	mmm banana.split
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May 02 18:13:13 <juboxor>	with the chockolatey choco choco flowin choco dreassing
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May 02 18:18:09 <ke4roh>	!admin  please block {{IPvandal|174.47.110.67}} vandalism continues after final warning. -- ~~~~
May 02 18:19:00 <Ironholds>	there is no final warning
May 02 18:19:22 <ke4roh>	Sorry, let me put it there! :)
May 02 18:19:37 <Ironholds>	...can you put it in there *and link it to an edit he has made since the last warning*?
May 02 18:20:06 <ke4roh>	yes
May 02 18:20:34 <derp>	time for bus
May 02 18:20:37 <derp>	hey Ironholds
May 02 18:20:45 <derp>	so have you packed yet?
May 02 18:21:24 <ke4roh>	Ironholds: done.  Thanks.
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May 02 18:23:23 <derp>	Ironholds: I'll be back at 3PM for ore insults at you.
May 02 18:23:27 <derp>	more
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May 02 18:23:46 <Ironholds>	note that it's occasionally useful to actually revert their edits
May 02 18:24:14 <Ironholds>	but in this case, fair enough
May 02 18:24:21 <Ironholds>	now poke me when he does something again
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May 02 18:30:27 <Qcoder00>	Admin please
May 02 18:30:46 <Qcoder00>	I'd like {{ShouldBeJPG}} restored to use
May 02 18:31:06 <Qcoder00>	I'm finding some fair-use stuff that would be more sensible if it was in JPG form
May 02 18:31:35 <Herodotus>	http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=293069 I always knew Wikipedia was part of the problem.
May 02 18:32:08 <Herodotus>	Also, the Wayback Machine is necessary to view old pages.
May 02 18:32:09 <Ironholds>	Qcoder00: good for you. get some consensus.
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May 02 18:32:33 <Qcoder00>	Ironholds:  OK
May 02 18:32:39 <Qcoder00>	I'll consider asking around
May 02 18:32:41 <Qcoder00>	;)
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May 02 18:33:45 <killiondude>	when is jpg preferred over png?
May 02 18:34:03 <Qcoder00>	Photos
May 02 18:34:22 <Qcoder00>	Especially FUR photo
May 02 18:34:39 <killiondude>	Hm. I see.
May 02 18:37:31 <Hedgehog456>	my dog is here
May 02 18:37:35 <Hedgehog456>	prepare for spam
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May 02 18:38:17 <ThrashOut>	killiondude - lol, I almost always use png over jpg for everything
May 02 18:38:34 <ThrashOut>	If nothing else, just for the transparency
May 02 18:38:36 *	ThrashOut shrugs
May 02 18:38:36 <Hedgehog456>	bgggfffffrffvf c rre4eddderrtjujmjjjjnnhjjjjkkjjujui0k//'#
May 02 18:38:40 <Hedgehog456>	ooops
May 02 18:38:42 <Hedgehog456>	dog :P
May 02 18:38:51 <Hedgehog456>	on keyboard
May 02 18:38:56 <ThrashOut>	little dog?
May 02 18:39:01 <Hedgehog456>	yes
May 02 18:39:05 <ThrashOut>	What kind?
May 02 18:39:09 <Hedgehog456>	JRT
May 02 18:39:14 <ThrashOut>	I have 2 chihuahuas
May 02 18:39:19 <ThrashOut>	Those aren't that little
May 02 18:39:20 <Hedgehog456>	my dog is the most persistent spammer here
May 02 18:39:30 <ThrashOut>	jrt weight what, 20 lbs?
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May 02 18:39:34 <Hedgehog456>	she's a puppy
May 02 18:39:37 <ThrashOut>	oh
May 02 18:39:42 <ThrashOut>	nice :)
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May 02 18:52:14 <AzaToth>	I do not think "in the news" is well setup atm, as the top entry is about osama, but the image is the beatification of pope john paul II
May 02 18:52:33 <killiondude>	It was without a pic as of 12 hrs ago
May 02 18:52:48 <killiondude>	The pictures of osama are in deletion venues atm
May 02 18:52:53 <AzaToth>	ok
May 02 18:53:17 <AzaToth>	it just looks wrong ツ
May 02 18:53:19 <killiondude>	(I agree with you though)
May 02 18:53:48 <Krimpet>	I like it.
May 02 18:54:04 <AzaToth>	beatification of osama bin laden?
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May 02 19:01:36 <StevenW>	Hey Theo
May 02 19:01:38 <geniice>	AzaToth not within his version of islam
May 02 19:01:45 <Theo10011>	Hey StevenW
May 02 19:02:02 <Theo10011>	what's a guy like you doing in a dump like this? ;)
May 02 19:02:07 <geniice>	hopeful the US will release some relevant pics at some point
May 02 19:02:38 <geniice>	long term I suspect that Abbottabad just got itself a tourist attraction
May 02 19:03:53 <StevenW>	Very funny Theo. This is where it's at.
May 02 19:03:56 <StevenW>	:)
May 02 19:04:02 <AzaToth>	a bad abbot?
May 02 19:04:19 <Ironholds>	for Osama, this week has been abbottabad as it can get
May 02 19:04:21 <Theo10011>	hehe
May 02 19:04:38 <killiondude>	http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/memes-osama-bin-laden.jpg
May 02 19:06:13 <AzaToth>	killiondude: I don't get the meme
May 02 19:06:35 <killiondude>	Hm. Have you seen CSI: Miami?
May 02 19:06:41 <killiondude>	A television series.
May 02 19:06:53 <guillom>	Haha.
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May 02 19:07:05 <AzaToth>	ffs
May 02 19:07:11 <AzaToth>	can't edit [[Death of Osama bin Laden]]
May 02 19:07:18 <AzaToth>	getting ec:s all the time
May 02 19:07:24 <guillom>	Is he actually putting on a *second* pair of sunglasses?
May 02 19:07:46 <AzaToth>	guillom: I've no idea ツ
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May 02 19:08:02 <killiondude>	guillom: I didn't notice that before
May 02 19:08:05 <killiondude>	That made me laugh
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May 02 19:09:13 <AzaToth>	Death of Osama bin Laden: WikiProject Death (Rated B-class, Low-importance)
May 02 19:09:21 <AzaToth>	low importance?
May 02 19:09:30 <Theo10011>	heh
May 02 19:09:41 <StevenW>	Death of a single person articles are always low I think
May 02 19:09:52 <StevenW>	It's about relative importance to the topic of death as a whole
May 02 19:09:53 <AzaToth>	StevenW: I see
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May 02 19:10:11 <StevenW>	Is there a WikiProject Terrorism?
May 02 19:10:19 <AzaToth>	StevenW: yes
May 02 19:10:25 <AzaToth>	WikiProject Terrorism 	[show](Rated B-class, High-importance)
May 02 19:10:30 <StevenW>	Cool beans
May 02 19:10:36 <AzaToth>	WikiProject Pakistan 	[show](Rated C-class, Low-importance)
May 02 19:10:53 <Hedgehog456>	I'd like to tell you all a story.
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May 02 19:11:22 <killiondude>	I doubt it will be worth anyone's time. :-P
May 02 19:11:35 <Theo10011>	lol
May 02 19:11:36 <Hedgehog456>	It is called...
May 02 19:11:44 <Hedgehog456>	'THE MAN WHO WAS SACKED'
May 02 19:12:00 <Hedgehog456>	There was a man. His name was Robert Platt.
May 02 19:12:13 <Theo10011>	Robert Plant?
May 02 19:12:29 <Hedgehog456>	He was an ordinary person, or as ordinary as possible when you're in a story being told by a hedgehog.
May 02 19:13:13 <Herodotus>	I, Herodotus, hereby award killiondude the Terrorism Barnstar of Merit for your tireless efforts in improving the article on Osama bin Laden.
May 02 19:13:20 <Hedgehog456>	One day, his boss gave him a very important assignment.
May 02 19:13:36 <killiondude>	I made two edits, Herodotus. I would hardly call myself a hero.
May 02 19:13:48 <Herodotus>	martyr*
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May 02 19:14:11 <Hedgehog456>	He had to write an essay on nuclear bombs for his boss.
May 02 19:14:19 <Hedgehog456>	So he got home, and he wrote it.
May 02 19:14:22 <Krimpet>	Cool story, bro.
May 02 19:14:42 <Hedgehog456>	Then he realised it had the wrong name: the boss wanted a very specific name for the document.
May 02 19:15:00 <Dragonfly6-7>	quick: without looking, what's the difference between Dagger.jpg and Dagger.JPG ?
May 02 19:15:07 <Hedgehog456>	He was using Linux though (after being convinced by his cool techie friends)
May 02 19:15:20 <Hedgehog456>	Dragonfly6-7: one's a penis, one's a popular television series
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May 02 19:15:53 <KFP>	Hedgehog456: ...And neither is a dagger?
May 02 19:16:04 *	Fluffernutter stares
May 02 19:16:08 <Dragonfly6-7>	actually, one is an ancient egyptian dagger and one is a modern replica dagger
May 02 19:16:10 <Hedgehog456>	Both are daggers
May 02 19:16:14 <Dragonfly6-7>	now, which is which?
May 02 19:16:28 <geniice>	neither is a dance move?
May 02 19:16:29 <Hedgehog456>	He didn't know how to use Linux.
May 02 19:16:38 <Hedgehog456>	So he wondered how to rename the document.
May 02 19:16:55 <Hedgehog456>	He said, "Hmm, I'll try "rm <document name>""
May 02 19:16:58 <Hedgehog456>	And he did.
May 02 19:17:05 <Hedgehog456>	And the document was deleted.
May 02 19:17:19 <Hedgehog456>	He cried as he watched his work being destroyed.
May 02 19:17:41 <Jeske_Couriano>	What does rm stand for other than delete?
May 02 19:17:41 <Ironholds>	who cares?
May 02 19:17:46 <killiondude>	remove
May 02 19:17:47 <Theo10011>	At least it has a happy ending.
May 02 19:17:49 <killiondude>	remastered
May 02 19:17:51 <Jeske_Couriano>	He's too dumb to live.
May 02 19:17:58 <Krimpet>	<Krimpet> Cool story, bro.
May 02 19:18:16 <Hedgehog456>	Then he went to his boss, hoping he would understand.
May 02 19:18:41 <MuZemike>	ID10T error?
May 02 19:18:41 <Hedgehog456>	But his boss was called 123Hedgehog456, and was a cruel, merciless, tyrant megalomaniac, and sacked him.
May 02 19:18:42 <Hedgehog456>	THE END.
May 02 19:18:53 <Theo10011>	yay!
May 02 19:18:55 <Fluffernutter>	wait, they let 12-year-olds be bosses where you are?
May 02 19:18:58 <Jeske_Couriano>	MuZemike) More like dumbass attack
May 02 19:19:01 <Hedgehog456>	Or at least, that's what the rumours say.
May 02 19:19:06 <Hedgehog456>	Fluffernutter: I'm not 12-year-old.
May 02 19:19:10 <Hedgehog456>	*a
May 02 19:19:16 <Theo10011>	was this a school project or something?
May 02 19:19:19 <Ironholds>	Hedgehog456: you act like one
May 02 19:19:24 <Fluffernutter>	you're not much older than that
May 02 19:19:29 <Hedgehog456>	True.
May 02 19:19:52 <Hedgehog456>	Dragonfly6-7: I read the description, and I Knew.
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May 02 19:23:14 <killiondude>	WHAT IS THE TEMPLATE TO MAKE TEXT GREEN
May 02 19:23:23 <killiondude>	and the other to make text red
May 02 19:23:44 <killiondude>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Green ? D:
May 02 19:23:49 <Hedgehog456>	Use HTML.
May 02 19:24:32 <Qcoder00>	Use CSS
May 02 19:24:32 <Qcoder00>	:)
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May 02 19:24:37 <killiondude>	there's a specific template that changes the font and color, iirc
May 02 19:27:14 <AzaToth>	Should "main article" on [[Death of Osama bin Laden]] be [[Osama bin Laden]] or [[Death]]?
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May 02 19:27:49 <KFP>	AzaToth: :I
May 02 19:28:18 <AzaToth>	KFP: aint it an valid question? :-P
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May 02 19:29:08 <Mitchazenia>	yay new song to be addicted to
May 02 19:29:38 <Mitchazenia>	I'm enjoying it too
May 02 19:30:18 <Mitchazenia>	of course its also trying to tell Chrome: You must earn your Resignation of Mikhail Gorbachev
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May 02 19:38:22 <Jeske_Couriano>	Could a few people in this channel please look over and fix [[Nose ride]]?
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May 02 19:38:53 <Mitchazenia>	I would if I wasn't working on my paper on Gorbachev's Effectivness as a Leader
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May 02 19:40:11 <Theo10011>	Jeske_Couriano those might be high standards you're trying to hold that user up to, he just started editing,
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May 02 19:40:52 <Theo10011>	NZ?
May 02 19:40:56 <LauraHale>	Jeske_Couriano: Can you point him to [[Netball]] as an example of how to do that?
May 02 19:41:05 <LauraHale>	Yes, leaving Auckland for Sydney soon.
May 02 19:41:16 <Jeske_Couriano>	LauraHale) I don't wanna hear about you and your fucking Netball.
May 02 19:41:18 <LauraHale>	The major issue with netball is our by region section is a bit too big.
May 02 19:41:25 <Hedgehog456>	I accidentally my laptop.
May 02 19:41:39 <KFP>	Hedgehog456: The whole laptop?
May 02 19:41:42 <Jeske_Couriano>	Theo10011) So are a lot of the mercenary editors who show similar resistance.
May 02 19:41:46 <LauraHale>	Jeske_Couriano: I was just saying for a participation sport, it an okay model to use.
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May 02 19:41:51 <Hedgehog456>	KFP: Just the touchpad :P
May 02 19:41:58 <Hedgehog456>	It's working again now
May 02 19:42:16 <Jeske_Couriano>	LauraHale) No, we're talking a surfing term.
May 02 19:42:34 <LauraHale>	Jeske_Couriano: Ah well.  Then not appropiate. :)
May 02 19:42:35 <LauraHale>	My bad.
May 02 19:42:37 <Jeske_Couriano>	We're not talking about your sacred cow that you've been mating with for the past month
May 02 19:43:12 <LauraHale>	Jeske_Couriano: Who put the bees in your bonnet this morning?
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May 02 19:45:00 <Jeske_Couriano>	LauraHale) You bringing up Netball for the millionth fucking time! If you like it so much put a goddamned ring on it!
May 02 19:45:18 <Fluffernutter>	fuck's sake, both of you shut up
May 02 19:45:24 <Hedgehog456>	^
May 02 19:45:25 <Hedgehog456>	I concur.
May 02 19:45:29 <Hedgehog456>	Whatever that means.
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May 02 19:45:37 <Hedgehog456>	I think it means 'agree'
May 02 19:48:43 <LauraHale>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_lacrosse is another good article about a sport that could be worth modeling as I belive it is a variant.  Can't find any sport terms for moves that are good. :(
May 02 19:49:44 <Jeske_Couriano>	LauraHale) We're talking *terminology*.
May 02 19:49:53 <Jeske_Couriano>	We're not talking the sport itself
May 02 19:50:03 <LauraHale>	Jeske_Couriano: I'm trying to find a good article in sports about terminology.
May 02 19:50:18 <LauraHale>	There are just few examples to draw from that are good or FA to model.
May 02 19:51:48 <Jeske_Couriano>	It also does not help this user is utterly oblivious to WikiMarkup
May 02 19:51:49 <Sunderland06>	LauraHale: Like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_cricket_terms ?
May 02 19:51:58 <Sunderland06>	Although its a list.
May 02 19:52:19 <LauraHale>	Sunderland06: It is C class.
May 02 19:52:27 <Sunderland06>	I know, former FL though.
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May 02 19:55:10 <LauraHale>	hm. :/
May 02 19:56:02 <LauraHale>	Getting sport related articles outside people and teams to GA/FA is a problem across the board.  FL I think is less rigorous or has that changed like FA?  Was told FA from 3 years ago is like GA today.
May 02 19:56:05 <LauraHale>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:FA-Class_cricket_articles
May 02 19:57:32 <Sunderland06>	FL isn't too bad.
May 02 19:58:32 <LauraHale>	Comparable to GA or FA?
May 02 19:59:44 <Sunderland06>	FA.
May 02 20:00:57 *	LauraHale nod nods
May 02 20:01:13 <Jeske_Couriano>	bobpurvey left.
May 02 20:01:43 <LauraHale>	I want to get around to working on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roller_derby one of these days but haven't done much to it.
May 02 20:01:57 <Jeske_Couriano>	I just wish I could have been able to explain things to him, but I can't handle being the only helper in the channel if there's a wave of /joins coming in
May 02 20:02:02 <Theo10011>	he's still in the room Jeske_Couriano.
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May 02 20:03:32 <AzaToth>	I think we should stop telling people to do inline definition of referenses and instead always use list defined references
May 02 20:03:49 <AzaToth>	inline definitions makes the text unreadable as best
May 02 20:04:18 <AzaToth>	no one reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(footnotes)#List-defined_references?
May 02 20:04:36 <LauraHale>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_scorer is closer to the issue of sport variant or move but more of a rules thing.
May 02 20:06:01 <LauraHale>	AzaToth: Thanks for link. :)
May 02 20:06:04 *	LauraHale bookmarks
May 02 20:06:15 <LauraHale>	Hadn't wandered across that one before
May 02 20:06:37 <Qcoder00>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dead_external_links/301/c - Does this serve any useufl function anymore?
May 02 20:06:53 <Qcoder00>	Im finding in the small number I've checked most are fixed already
May 02 20:06:57 <Qcoder00>	MFD time?
May 02 20:08:03 <LauraHale>	Later. :)
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May 02 20:53:10 <Peter-C>	WTF?!?!??!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!
May 02 20:53:19 <KFP>	?
May 02 20:53:38 <Peter-C>	I am "Cambridge Who's Who Registry among Executives and Professionals in the field of Research, Medicine and Healthcare" and I will represent my town in that field
May 02 20:53:39 <Peter-C>	O_O
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May 02 21:10:07 <killiondude>	it's just spam
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May 02 21:12:45 <Peter-C>	killiondude - Nope, I checked it out
May 02 21:12:58 <Peter-C>	The organization helped out by Trump :P
May 02 21:13:12 <killiondude>	Who's Who registries are "real" but usually spammy.
May 02 21:13:21 <killiondude>	The internet has really outdated them.
May 02 21:15:16 <Peter-C>	Meh
May 02 21:15:17 <Peter-C>	>_>
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May 02 21:15:43 <KFP>	\o killiondude.
May 02 21:15:44 <killiondude>	o/ KFP
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May 02 21:17:32 <Qcoder00>	killiondude:  Unless it's Burkes ? XD
May 02 21:18:20 <killiondude>	I use Wikipedia.
May 02 21:18:34 <Qcoder00>	One for Ironholds maybe...
May 02 21:18:57 <Qcoder00>	How does Wikipedia compare with Burkes on  'notobale' nobility ;)
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May 02 21:19:43 <Ironholds>	Qcoder00: no idea
May 02 21:20:02 <Qcoder00>	*'notable'
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May 02 21:22:37 <Ironholds>	I just emailed Antigua's prime minister
May 02 21:22:40 <Ironholds>	why? Because I rock
May 02 21:22:47 <foks>	Sweet
May 02 21:23:31 <Ironholds>	I should probably not have started the email "dear fuckface"
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May 02 21:25:48 *	Fluffernutter rolls eyes
May 02 21:26:23 <killiondude>	they'll get stuck that way!
May 02 21:26:26 <killiondude>	!mother
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May 02 21:30:13 <zscout370>	BarkingFish: I saw TPI hit 1000 articles :)
May 02 21:30:23 <BarkingFish>	finally :)
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May 02 21:30:48 <Glass_Arm>	Wonder if Osama's article is updated
May 02 21:30:53 <BarkingFish>	a good proportion of those are still stubs, but we're digging through them, slowly
May 02 21:30:55 <Glass_Arm>	I am not able to check now
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May 02 21:31:59 <Gfoley4>	what is this? re-confirmation RFA?
May 02 21:32:00 <Gfoley4>	:O
May 02 21:32:12 <killiondude>	o;
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May 02 21:32:22 <Fluffernutter>	it happens
May 02 21:32:33 <Gfoley4>	shit happens
May 02 21:32:48 <killiondude>	Wikipedia as a MMORPG has ever-changing rules.
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May 02 21:34:05 <YouLeMacaroni>	quick question:
May 02 21:34:24 <zscout370>	sure
May 02 21:35:01 <YouLeMacaroni>	is wiki going to put off updating the osama article until more evidence about the situation is gathered?
May 02 21:35:06 <Qcoder00>	What's  TPI?
May 02 21:35:14 <killiondude>	toilet paper index
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May 02 21:35:41 <Qcoder00>	Eh?
May 02 21:35:44 <KFP>	YouLeMacaroni: Do you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden   or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden ?
May 02 21:35:50 <zscout370>	Qcoder00: tok pinsin
May 02 21:35:58 <zscout370>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tok_Pisin
May 02 21:36:01 <YouLeMacaroni>	the former, KFP.
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May 02 21:36:52 <Glass_Arm>	Make sure in the former under 'death' you guys put 'This section is about a current event'
May 02 21:37:05 <killiondude>	will do
May 02 21:37:22 <KFP>	YouLeMacaroni: Well, the article already has a section about his death, and more detail is available in the separate article. What does it seem to be missing?
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May 02 21:37:56 <Logan_>	Gfoley4: look at what the touch of a wand can do for a disambiguation page:
May 02 21:38:00 <Logan_>	before: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Santi&oldid=426176139
May 02 21:38:03 <Logan_>	after: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santi
May 02 21:38:07 <Glass_Arm>	KFP: The fact that it isn't confirmed
May 02 21:38:15 <Gfoley4>	no, I'm not doing {{db-disamb}}s
May 02 21:38:19 <Glass_Arm>	At least how the operation took place
May 02 21:38:28 <killiondude>	Elvis is still alive, KFP
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May 02 21:38:32 <Logan_>	Gfoley4: no, I'm showing you my cleanup skills :P
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May 02 21:38:35 <Logan_>	killiondude: no u :P
May 02 21:38:36 <killiondude>	he's with Osama and Tupac.
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May 02 21:38:42 <Glass_Arm>	and the fact no photo of his dead body was released
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May 02 21:38:56 <Ironholds>	I have finished my article!
May 02 21:39:07 <Logan_>	Ironholds: about that politician?
May 02 21:39:20 *	Hedgehog456 applauds Ironholds and builds an iron statue of him
May 02 21:39:26 <MuZemike>	WP:OWN
May 02 21:39:29 *	Logan_ holds the iron statue
May 02 21:39:34 <dwayne>	osama
May 02 21:39:42 <Hedgehog456>	bin laden
May 02 21:39:46 <Ironholds>	Logan_: [[Vere Bird, Jr.]]
May 02 21:39:52 <MuZemike>	The last article I worked on ironically: [[Ironsword: Wizards & Warriors II]]
May 02 21:40:02 <Logan_>	Ironholds: looks nice :)
May 02 21:40:07 <Hedgehog456>	Very nice
May 02 21:40:15 <Logan_>	Ironholds: I'll try to find a free picture
May 02 21:40:19 <Ironholds>	Logan_: got it covered
May 02 21:40:26 <Ironholds>	I've emailed their national government asking for stuff
May 02 21:40:41 <Hedgehog456>	I especially like the "There is no content in this page"
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May 02 21:41:14 <eptalon>	heyas
May 02 21:41:14 <Hedgehog456>	Unless I'm missing something
May 02 21:41:14 <Logan_>	Ironholds: I wonder what their PD laws are there
May 02 21:41:30 <Logan_>	Hedgehog456: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vere_Bird%2C_Jr._
May 02 21:41:38 <Logan_>	extra underscore in case your client is stripping the period
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May 02 21:42:00 <Hedgehog456>	Oh.
May 02 21:42:07 <Hedgehog456>	That's even better.
May 02 21:42:22 <YouLeMacaroni>	KFP -- my contention is more towards the date at which Osama was purported to have been killed. Was it April 29th, May 1st, or May 2nd?
May 02 21:42:27 <foks>	Be right back
May 02 21:43:12 <Logan_>	Ironholds: can't find anything regarding PD in Antigua and Barbuda
May 02 21:43:13 <zscout370>	YouLeMacaroni: I was just thinking about that. I know when we list information about the end of WW2 on both fronts, we list multiple dates
May 02 21:43:30 <zscout370>	because of time zones. Use that as a guide.
May 02 21:43:52 <YouLeMacaroni>	I thought GMT timezone was standard, but I guess going with multiple timezones is the safest?
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May 02 21:44:09 <zscout370>	you can list GMT, Pakistani time and US time
May 02 21:44:17 <Hedgehog456>	I'd like to make a speech.
May 02 21:44:23 <Hedgehog456>	*ahem* I'm back.
May 02 21:44:27 <Hedgehog456>	*speech over*
May 02 21:44:49 <Hedgehog456>	My first article coming soon :P
May 02 21:44:50 <zscout370>	or use GMT and US time because I can tell you as an American, it will always be May 1st, 2011 as the Zero Hour.
May 02 21:44:57 <Jeske_Couriano>	Still on about Osama bin Laden getting whacked and then given a Viking burial?
May 02 21:44:58 <Hedgehog456>	Starting work on it tomorrow
May 02 21:45:06 <MuZemike>	Zero Hour was a good movie.
May 02 21:45:10 <Glass_Arm>	Hedgehog456: How about I blank it
May 02 21:45:24 <Hedgehog456>	Glass_Arm: How about I revert you and warn you
May 02 21:45:40 <zscout370>	Jeske_Couriano: I would prefer to say sleeping with the fishes on the Atlantic shore (probably by Jersey), an all American burial
May 02 21:46:03 <MuZemike>	And I forgot *again* to change my userpage to celebrate May Day. Oh well, at least bin Laden's death gave me a good reason to go to the American flag.
May 02 21:46:09 <Glass_Arm>	Hedgehog456: How about i create multiple sockpuppets
May 02 21:46:34 <Hedgehog456>	Glass_Arm: How about I report you to the Checkusers, presenting my secret channel logs
May 02 21:46:34 <KFP>	Hedgehog456: Have you conquered your fear? :)
May 02 21:46:35 <Ironholds>	he's dead. Stop talking about it.
May 02 21:46:36 <MuZemike>	Mayday! Mayday! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYUe0_WeY2A
May 02 21:46:47 <Hedgehog456>	KFP: 'tis gone.
May 02 21:46:53 <KFP>	Hedgehog456: :)
May 02 21:47:02 <MuZemike>	How 'bout I block first and ask questions later?
May 02 21:47:05 <Glass_Arm>	Hedgehog456: How about i make more sockpuppets
May 02 21:47:11 <Hedgehog456>	I shot it in the heart.
May 02 21:47:16 <Glass_Arm>	xD I'm messing with you
May 02 21:47:17 <Hedgehog456>	It died five days later.
May 02 21:47:21 <Jeske_Couriano>	He's dead Jim
May 02 21:47:31 <Glass_Arm>	So what's the article about?
May 02 21:47:32 <Jeske_Couriano>	You take his wallet, I'll hock his dialysis machine
May 02 21:47:47 <MuZemike>	lol, he was a closet drunk
May 02 21:48:15 <Hedgehog456>	Glass_Arm: you would never guess
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May 02 21:48:40 <Glass_Arm>	hedgehog456: Most new articles are about obscure people
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May 02 21:48:48 <Glass_Arm>	so I narrowed it down
May 02 21:48:55 <Hedgehog456>	Glass_Arm: Nah
May 02 21:49:02 <MuZemike>	And virtually nonexistent settlements.
May 02 21:49:18 <MuZemike>	And events in some Games that nobody gives two shits about.
May 02 21:49:43 <Hedgehog456>	MuZemike: Nah
May 02 21:49:59 <Hedgehog456>	But those articles must be cleansed
May 02 21:50:08 <MuZemike>	And NHRP articles that say nothing more than "XYZ is a building. It was erected in 18XX."
May 02 21:50:16 *	Hedgehog456 waves "DELETIONISM" banner about.
May 02 21:50:22 <KFP>	MuZemike: ...And football players.
May 02 21:50:37 <Ironholds>	PLANE TIME
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May 02 21:50:40 <Ironholds>	Hedgehog456, die
May 02 21:50:54 *	Hedgehog456 chucks the banner in the fire
May 02 21:50:57 <MuZemike>	It's not even about deletionism, it's about not wasting our time with reading about the bloody obvious.
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May 02 21:51:04 *	Hedgehog456 stamps on the banner
May 02 21:51:21 *	Hedgehog456 eats the ashes and vomits them out again
May 02 21:51:24 *	MuZemike sicks the deletionist cabal on Hedgehog456
May 02 21:51:32 *	Hedgehog456 destroys the banner with holy fire
May 02 21:51:40 <killiondude>	WIKIPEDIA FOREVER
May 02 21:51:46 <MuZemike>	Ayn Rand?
May 02 21:51:58 <MuZemike>	The eminent 20th century Russian American philosopher?
May 02 21:52:02 <KFP>	The eminent 20th century Russ...
May 02 21:52:09 <KFP>	:I
May 02 21:52:28 *	Fluffernutter is now known as Fluff|away
May 02 21:52:42 *	Logan_ just saw a groundhog in his backyard
May 02 21:52:42 <Glass_Arm>	YAHOO ANSWERS FOREVER
May 02 21:52:44 <Logan_>	must be spring :P
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May 02 21:55:02 <Gfoley4>	MuZemike: wanna do a CU for me
May 02 21:55:02 <Gfoley4>	?
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May 02 21:56:11 <MuZemike>	Heh, got the best unblock request ever
May 02 21:56:18 <Hedgehog456>	"I AM ELVIS"
May 02 21:56:20 <Hedgehog456>	:P
May 02 21:56:22 <Pilif12p>	Second best.
May 02 21:56:23 <MuZemike>	"Tell those two cocksucking pieces of shit to go fuck themselves, and then whoever reads this can go fuck themselves too."
May 02 21:56:39 <Hedgehog456>	;P
May 02 21:56:48 <Hedgehog456>	I need a CU
May 02 21:57:03 <Pilif12p>	Best was barney  the overweight purple dinosaur
May 02 21:57:10 <Hedgehog456>	:P
May 02 21:57:14 <Hedgehog456>	That was the /best/
May 02 21:57:23 <Hedgehog456>	Give me the diff
May 02 21:57:39 <MuZemike>	Is that a username?
May 02 21:57:50 <Hedgehog456>	No
May 02 21:57:54 <Hedgehog456>	I don't think
May 02 21:57:58 <Pilif12p>	Well
May 02 21:58:00 <Hedgehog456>	Oh, I think it was
May 02 21:58:00 <Pilif12p>	The best block reason was that
May 02 21:58:04 <Pilif12p>	The unblock request was bad
May 02 21:58:07 <Pilif12p>	https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User_talk:Barney_the_overweight_purple_dinosaur
May 02 21:58:41 <MuZemike>	No secure for me
May 02 21:58:45 <Hedgehog456>	HAHAHAHA :P
May 02 21:59:13 <Gfoley4>	ew, secure
May 02 21:59:23 <Gfoley4>	>=(
May 02 21:59:39 <Hedgehog456>	I was laughing at the secure
May 02 21:59:48 <Hedgehog456>	Now I'm going to laugh at the block
May 02 22:00:01 <Pilif12p>	httpseverywhere ftw
May 02 22:00:02 <Hedgehog456>	BWAHAHAHA... HEHEEEEEHEEE, HAHAHHA :P :D
May 02 22:00:07 <Pilif12p>	firesheep ftw, too.
May 02 22:00:18 <Logan_>	am I the only person who thinks that the new preview message is hideous?
May 02 22:00:29 <kisuke>	Pilif12p: glad im not the only person who read the EFF.
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May 02 22:06:48 <Hedgehog456>	Bye
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May 02 22:12:55 *	Topic for #wikipedia-en set by Thehelpfulone at Fri Apr 29 22:38:39 2011
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May 02 22:12:55 *	#wikipedia-en :http://en.wikipedia.org/
May 02 22:13:54 <killiondude>	lolcanada
May 02 22:14:45 <Douche>	So i voted.
May 02 22:15:38 <Douche>	mr killiondude can i hax ur fb
May 02 22:15:52 <killiondude>	no
May 02 22:17:40 <Douche>	:(
May 02 22:18:08 <Douche>	yay
May 02 22:18:20 <Douche>	ironholds is supposed to be on the way to the airport
May 02 22:18:21 <Douche>	:D
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May 02 22:23:27 *	Topic for #wikipedia-en set by Thehelpfulone at Fri Apr 29 22:38:39 2011
May 02 22:23:27 *	#wikipedia-en :http://en.wikipedia.org/
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May 02 22:57:25 <Headbomb>	Douche: yeah
May 02 22:57:32 <Headbomb>	i did my part to kick harper out
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May 02 22:57:55 <BarkingFish>	Wonder how many canadians were with you on it :)
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May 02 22:58:10 <Headbomb>	BarkingFish: roughly 65%
May 02 22:58:18 <BarkingFish>	:O
May 02 22:58:21 <BarkingFish>	fecking heck
May 02 22:58:29 <Headbomb>	whut?
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May 02 22:58:41 <BarkingFish>	I think that's more than kicked Gordon Brown out
May 02 22:58:59 <Headbomb>	BarkingFish: we have a multiparty system, and harper will still get the most seats
May 02 22:59:06 *	BarkingFish can't remember Labour's loss margin from the last election
May 02 22:59:40 <Headbomb>	however, what will most likely happen is that Harper will not be able to form a government with the trust of the parliament
May 02 22:59:51 <Headbomb>	and the Governor General will ask the next in line to form one
May 02 22:59:59 <Headbomb>	and that will be Jack Layton and the NDP
May 02 23:00:14 <Headbomb>	so i guess we'll have a minority NDP government
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May 02 23:00:56 <BarkingFish>	Any chance they'd be able to form a coalition, or does your system prevent that?
May 02 23:01:03 <Headbomb>	in theory yes
May 02 23:01:13 <derp>	I remember the last coalition attempt
May 02 23:01:16 <Headbomb>	but the coalition has been demonized as anti-democratic
May 02 23:01:24 <derp>	in wich a prorogation happened
May 02 23:01:24 <Headbomb>	and nazi-like
May 02 23:01:36 <BarkingFish>	who would they likely aim for as a partner if they went down that route?
May 02 23:01:46 <BarkingFish>	I don't know a whole lot about canadian politics
May 02 23:01:54 <Headbomb>	the coalition would be NDP Liberal if it happens
May 02 23:02:12 <Headbomb>	the backstory was a Liberal-NDP coalition a few years ago
May 02 23:02:26 <Headbomb>	but Harper prorogued parliament, and the liberals pussied out of it
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May 02 23:02:59 <Headbomb>	were it a liberal minority, it would be a liberal minority, no coalition, but with the support of the other parties for sake of stability
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May 02 23:03:12 <Headbomb>	however, in the last 3-4 weeks, the NDP went up like crazy
May 02 23:03:19 <Headbomb>	so what they would do is anyone's guess
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May 02 23:03:51 <Headbomb>	they could go "you Liberals pussied out on us, so screw you now that we're the top dog"
May 02 23:04:00 <BarkingFish>	Stephen Harper is Labour, right?
May 02 23:04:15 <Headbomb>	or they could go "let's make coalition anyway, just to garantee the libs won't fuck us in the ass"
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May 02 23:04:19 <Headbomb>	Harper is Conservative
May 02 23:04:39 <Headbomb>	which is like a less moronic version of the Republicans, but with the same policies
May 02 23:04:43 <BarkingFish>	Ah
May 02 23:04:48 <BarkingFish>	same shit, different name
May 02 23:04:50 <BarkingFish>	:)
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May 02 23:05:03 <Fluffernutter>	so they're less moronic how?
May 02 23:05:20 <Headbomb>	Fluffernutter: we don't have Sarah Palins, Tom DeLay, etc...
May 02 23:05:34 <BarkingFish>	For one thing, I'd assume they're not republican :)
May 02 23:05:55 <Headbomb>	or the Tea Partiers
May 02 23:06:26 <Headbomb>	and they tend to be a whole lot better at hiding their contempt for women or minorities
May 02 23:06:32 <Fluffernutter>	fair enough, i guess
May 02 23:06:33 <BarkingFish>	The tea partiers should bog off and discover the delights of coffee for a change :)
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May 02 23:06:56 <Headbomb>	but they are nearly just as evil
May 02 23:07:18 <Peter-C>	I wish Alfred Kinsey was my father
May 02 23:07:21 <Peter-C>	'nuff said
May 02 23:07:25 <Headbomb>	they want to be like republicans, but they know that if they are openly like republicans, they will lose groudn
May 02 23:07:28 <Headbomb>	*ground
May 02 23:07:33 <geniice>	hmm
May 02 23:07:35 <BarkingFish>	So they're basically daleks in a sheepskin. Look friendly, but evil underneath.
May 02 23:07:43 <Headbomb>	more or less
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May 02 23:07:51 <Headbomb>	the problem is mostly at the top
May 02 23:08:14 <geniice>	there's a photo of bin laden compounding pokeing out from under the classifed document in this pic
May 02 23:08:16 <geniice>	http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/5680724572/sizes/o/in/photostream/
May 02 23:08:20 <Headbomb>	many individual MPs make sense, and would be very good choices if they were not in a party led by the Harper shitheads
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May 02 23:09:13 <Headbomb>	or their support for the "starve the beast" tactics with regards to social programs
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May 02 23:09:38 <BarkingFish>	geniice: very useful. Pixellated out so it can't be viewed.
May 02 23:09:54 <Headbomb>	they can't say they want to close center help centers for raped women
May 02 23:10:09 <Headbomb>	so instead they announced reductions in spending, and leave the details out
May 02 23:10:20 <geniice>	<BarkingFish no thats the classified document. look at the bit of paper sticking out underneith it
May 02 23:10:23 <Headbomb>	*close help centers
May 02 23:10:55 <Headbomb>	and magically most of the centers for women are closed down because of a lack of funding
May 02 23:11:29 <BarkingFish>	can you be sure that's bin liner's compound? :)
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May 02 23:14:53 <geniice>	BarkingFish sure check out the pic we already have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Osama_bin_Laden_hideout.jpg
May 02 23:15:06 <geniice>	and google's version http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=34.169167,73.2425&spn=0.001,0.001&t=h&q=34.169167,73.2425
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May 02 23:48:00 <foks>	ah cara mia!
May 02 23:48:05 <foks>	ah cara mia!
May 02 23:48:13 <Fluffernutter>	?
May 02 23:48:22 <foks>	ah, mia bambina!
May 02 23:48:25 *	derp snuggles with foks.
May 02 23:48:43 <foks>	mia bambina! o chiel!
May 02 23:49:06 <foks>	Fucking love portal.
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May 02 23:55:30 <Dragonfly6-7>	hello
May 02 23:55:47 <Zamorak>	Hai.
May 02 23:55:48 <Fluffernutter>	no, i will not fix an article for you
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