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Please check https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth for the status of your account' [17:24:30] * Set by NotASpy!~nick@wikimedia/Nick on Tue Apr 21 06:15:12 2015 [17:24:31] #wikipedia url is https://wikipedia.org [17:32:56] * Kinny (Kinny@unaffiliated/kinny) has joined #wikipedia [17:34:08] * James_F is now known as James_F|Away [17:35:55] * lucyinthesky (~lucyinthe@unaffiliated/lucyinthesky) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [17:36:16] * James_F|Away is now known as James_F [17:36:48] * prospernow (~prosperno@142.150.23.90) has joined #wikipedia [17:42:09] * Annabelle (mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth) has joined #wikipedia [17:44:58] * closedmouth (mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [17:45:05] * Annabelle is now known as closedmouth [17:49:02] * strainwrld (~strainwrl@a95-92-81-202.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #wikipedia [17:52:34] * prospernow (~prosperno@142.150.23.90) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [17:57:10] * aretecode (~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [18:00:28] * Caliburn (~Caliburn@wikimedia/Caliburn) Quit (Quit: Bye) [18:03:51] * the-wub (~the_wub@wikimedia/the-wub) Quit [18:06:28] * fabior (~fabior@wikipedia/fabior1984) has joined #wikipedia [18:11:43] * aretecode (~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com) has joined #wikipedia [18:16:57] * prospernow (~prosperno@142.150.23.90) has joined #wikipedia [18:27:24] * ysangkok (janus@hapy.0x90.dk) has left #wikipedia [18:28:12] * prospernow (~prosperno@142.150.23.90) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:31:20] * AnoAnon (~AnoAnon@197.39.215.126) has joined #wikipedia [18:31:24] * catfox (~armucat@ip70-180-122-225.no.no.cox.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:32:01] * kdas_ (~kdas@115.112.130.14) has joined #wikipedia [18:32:46] * Jianhui67 (uid54581@wikimedia/Jianhui67) Quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [18:33:52] * prospernow (~prosperno@142.150.23.90) has joined #wikipedia [18:34:48] * catfox (~armucat@ip70-180-122-225.no.no.cox.net) has joined #wikipedia [18:35:46] * AnoAnon (~AnoAnon@197.39.215.126) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [18:36:07] * kushal (~kdas@fedora/kushal) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [18:54:57] * xcourier (~xcourier@unaffiliated/xcourier) Quit (Quit: xcourier) [18:55:29] * lucyinthesky (~lucyinthe@unaffiliated/lucyinthesky) has joined #wikipedia [18:58:33] * prospernow (~prosperno@142.150.23.90) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [18:59:51] * enterprisey (~enterpris@wikipedia/APerson) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:00:43] * lucyinthesky (~lucyinthe@unaffiliated/lucyinthesky) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:03:30] * xcourier (~xcourier@unaffiliated/xcourier) has joined #wikipedia [19:03:34] * Spitfire (spitfire@wikipedia/spitfire) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [19:05:09] * xcourier (~xcourier@unaffiliated/xcourier) Quit (Client Quit) [19:05:46] * Rcsprinter (uid8084@wikipedia/Rcsprinter123) Quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [19:05:56] * Clefable (~Clefable@unaffiliated/clefable) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:06:01] * Spitfire (spitfire@wikipedia/spitfire) has joined #wikipedia [19:06:25] * bca (uid1192@wikimedia/Joe-Gazz84) Quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [19:14:21] * IDoH is now known as IDoH|AfIRC [19:21:30] * Rcsprinter (uid8084@wikipedia/Rcsprinter123) has joined #wikipedia [19:25:34] * jeezy (~xz@bitchx/apple/jeezy) has joined #wikipedia [19:25:49] * jeezy (~xz@bitchx/apple/jeezy) has left #wikipedia ("outta here.") 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[20:05:52] * James_F is now known as James_F|Away [20:07:17] * M132T003C (~MTC@wikimedia/MTC) Quit (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~) [20:07:56] * Chess (~Chessbro@wikipedia/chess) has joined #wikipedia [20:22:41] * Iaaasi (567e39c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.126.57.194) has joined #wikipedia [20:28:40] * rzo (~rzo@dispo-82-250-60-65.adsl.proxad.net) has joined #wikipedia [20:28:05] * rzo (~rzo@dispo-82-250-60-65.adsl.proxad.net) Quit (Max SendQ exceeded) [20:28:30] * Finne|away is now known as Finnegan [20:29:41] * edsu (~edsu@li144-162.members.linode.com) has joined #wikipedia [20:30:05] <edsu> I was wondering if someone could offer me some advice [20:30:16] <edsu> I had an edit reverted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Daniel_J._Caron [20:30:23] <edsu> oops sorry, that's the talk page [20:30:46] <edsu> here's the revert https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Daniel_J._Caron&type=revision&diff=668892306&oldid=667626430 [20:31:19] <edsu> I noticed that the only edits that Noisetrash has made to Wikipedia concern this article about Daniel J Caron [20:31:37] <edsu> and that they were to remove content, or discuss removing the content on the talk page [20:32:36] <edsu> they reverted an edit I made which had a citation [20:32:45] <edsu> to a canadian newspaper [20:33:15] <edsu> does this seem suspicious to anyone else ; what's the process for contesting a revert like that? [20:45:16] * Submarine (~toosexy@wikipedia/Monniaux/David) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:52:51] * James_F|Away is now known as James_F [20:56:38] * sunarch (~quassel@2001:7c0:409:8a1f:6000:2de2:c1f1:1ec1) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:57:11] * contempt (contempt@unaffiliated/contempt) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [20:58:58] * imensen (~imensen@mail.imensen.de) has joined #wikipedia [21:00:03] * imensen (~imensen@mail.imensen.de) has left #wikipedia [21:03:31] * contempt (~contempt@unaffiliated/contempt) has joined #wikipedia [21:03:36] * matthewburton (~matthewbu@ool-4a591a3a.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #wikipedia [21:05:29] * DN-boards1 (~DN-boards@104-56-23-57.lightspeed.okcbok.sbcglobal.net) has joined #wikipedia [21:06:04] <matthewburton> i’m looking at an article on a scientific topic, with a dispute regarding a paragraph based on a non-peer-reviewed source that contradicts claims made in a peer-reviewed journal. What’s the policy/precedent on this? [21:06:05] * achilles14 (~achilles1@slcwireless-pat.uc.edu) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:07:05] * SailorHaumea (~DN-boards@unaffiliated/dn-boards1) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [21:07:25] * DN-boards1 (~DN-boards@104-56-23-57.lightspeed.okcbok.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Changing host) [21:07:26] * DN-boards1 (~DN-boards@unaffiliated/dn-boards1) has joined #wikipedia [21:07:31] * DN-boards1 is now known as SailorHaumea [21:07:51] <marktraceur> matthewburton: I'd imagine you could include both points of view on the topic. [21:08:03] <marktraceur> Something like "some claim that X, others claim that Y" [21:09:08] <matthewburton> the issue (and that isn’t necessarily the case with this article) is that the world is full of scientific cranks with blogs [21:09:28] <marktraceur> Blogs don't work with WP:RS anyway. [21:09:41] * kf8 (~Thunderbi@210.54.33.110) has joined #wikipedia [21:10:54] * Azure (~Azure@unaffiliated/azure) has joined #wikipedia [21:11:24] <matthewburton> well, it’s being accepted in this case [21:11:37] <matthewburton> it’s a professional blog. i wouldn’t call the author a crank. but it’s not peer-reviewed. [21:11:54] <matthewburton> do the two sources deserve equal billing? [21:13:16] <marktraceur> A blog? No. [21:13:21] <marktraceur> It's still a blog. [21:18:52] <matthewburton> “Self-published material may sometimes be acceptable when its author is an established expert whose work in the relevant field has been published by reliable third-party publications.” — WP:RS [21:19:57] * natuur12 is now known as natuur12|ZzZ [21:23:48] * Iaaasi (567e39c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.126.57.194) has left #wikipedia [21:30:02] * fabior (~fabior@wikipedia/fabior1984) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:33:43] * Chess (~Chessbro@wikipedia/chess) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [21:36:25] * Chess (~Chessbro@wikipedia/chess) has joined #wikipedia [21:37:52] * Trustable (~Trustable@dslb-188-106-146-149.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:42:33] * enterprisey (~enterpris@wikipedia/APerson) has joined #wikipedia [21:43:42] <marktraceur> matthewburton: Well, then, you know the policy better than I do, and you should ignore me. :P [21:44:01] <matthewburton> :-) just came across that [21:46:09] * afiefh (~quassel@89-139-47-233.bb.netvision.net.il) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [21:47:40] * Keegan is now known as Keegan|Away [21:50:58] * Falcorian (~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian) Quit (Quit: Leaving.) [22:12:00] * James_F is now known as James_F|Away [22:15:28] * Chia (~chatzilla@wikia/Chiafriend12) has joined #wikipedia [22:15:46] <Chia> Is there an easy way to embed external images [22:15:59] <Chia> ie, on Wikia you paste the URL of an image from another website and it embeds [22:16:04] * bananabas (~bananabas@unaffiliated/bananabas) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [22:16:10] <Chia> whereas on WP it just is a link, no embedded image [22:16:23] * James_F|Away is now known as James_F [22:17:21] <marktraceur> Chia: We don't really do that. What is the image of? [22:17:41] * bananabas (~bananabas@unaffiliated/bananabas) has joined #wikipedia [22:17:46] <Chia> yeah not for an actual article [22:18:05] <Chia> I want to embed some website favicons in {{Infobox military conflict}} for a screenshot [22:18:12] * enterprisey (~enterpris@wikipedia/APerson) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [22:18:25] <marktraceur> Chia: Can you be more specific? Which favicons? Can you link to them? [22:19:06] <Chia> http://www.reddit.com/static/spreddit5.gif http://www.faviconer.com/uploads/21/823/favicon.png [22:19:13] <Chia> though they're not in actual .ico format [22:19:33] <Chia> format isn't important. I just want to figure out how to embed external images, if possible [22:19:34] <marktraceur> Those might both be PD-simple [22:19:42] <marktraceur> Chia: You can't, no [22:19:56] <Chia> poop [22:19:58] <marktraceur> Chia: But I suspect you could upload those to Commons and embed them from there. [22:20:16] <marktraceur> There is support for external repositories of images, but Commons is the only acceptable one on WP [22:21:21] <Chia> are you allowed to host images on Commons if you're not going to actually use them for something? [22:21:37] <marktraceur> Chia: "Yes" to an extent, but they run the risk of being deleted eventually [22:21:47] <marktraceur> That said, I'm not sure why you would do that then [22:21:50] <Chia> I'm fine with them being deleted in the future [22:22:23] <marktraceur> I have to run now though, good luck, maybe join #wikimedia-commons and #wikipedia-en for more help [22:22:45] <Chia> many thanks marktraceur [22:32:51] * obXiDeJSFQ (~obXiDeJSF@ns330535.ip-176-31-127.eu) Quit (Changing host) [22:32:51] * obXiDeJSFQ (~obXiDeJSF@unaffiliated/obxidejsfq) has joined #wikipedia [22:34:41] * bananabas (~bananabas@unaffiliated/bananabas) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:40:49] * lucyinthesky (~lucyinthe@unaffiliated/lucyinthesky) has joined #wikipedia [22:41:11] * Chia (~chatzilla@wikia/Chiafriend12) has left #wikipedia [22:46:37] * abian (~abian@wikimedia/abian) Quit (Quit: leaving) [22:49:13] * israelpattison (~israelpat@2607:5300:100:200::7df) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [22:51:35] * israelpattison (~israelpat@2607:5300:100:200::7df) has joined #wikipedia [22:53:36] * Tux[Qyou] (~Tux@176.103.41.5) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:01:43] * addshore (uid10233@wikimedia/addshore) Quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [23:13:21] * Keegan|Away is now known as Keegan [23:13:23] * matthewburton (~matthewbu@ool-4a591a3a.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Quit: matthewburton) [23:15:30] * James_F is now known as James_F|Away [23:19:35] * eeLieAh (~quasar@93.56.121.227) has joined #wikipedia [23:23:16] * Chess (~Chessbro@wikipedia/chess) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:23:30] * Chess (~Chessbro@wikipedia/chess) has joined #wikipedia [23:24:48] * enterprisey (~enterpris@wikipedia/APerson) has joined #wikipedia [23:25:04] * AzaToth (~azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:28:34] * eeLieAh (~quasar@93.56.121.227) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:29:40] * eeLieAh (~quasar@93.56.121.227) has joined #wikipedia [23:30:07] * AnoAnon (~AnoAnon@197.39.215.126) has joined #wikipedia [23:30:20] * AnoAnon (~AnoAnon@197.39.215.126) Quit (Max SendQ exceeded) [23:30:44] * Chess (~Chessbro@wikipedia/chess) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [23:38:59] * comets (~xchat@wikimedia/Cometstyles) has joined #wikipedia [23:50:42] * DN-boards1 (~DN-boards@104-56-23-57.lightspeed.okcbok.sbcglobal.net) has joined #wikipedia [23:51:16] * DN-boards1 (~DN-boards@104-56-23-57.lightspeed.okcbok.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Changing host) [23:51:16] * DN-boards1 (~DN-boards@unaffiliated/dn-boards1) has joined #wikipedia [23:51:33] * FastLizard4 is now known as FastLizard4|away [23:52:15] * SailorHaumea (~DN-boards@unaffiliated/dn-boards1) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [23:52:25] * DN-boards1 is now known as SailorHaumea [23:55:05] * James_F|Away is now known as James_F Session Close: Tue Jul 07 00:00:00 2015