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;Suspected sockpuppeteer
{{user5|1=Oldwindybear}} ("OWB")
;Suspected sockpuppets
{{user5|1=Stillstudying}} ("SS")<br>
{{user5|1=Finishedwithschool}} ("FWS")<br>
{{user5|1=H.L.S. Blair}} ("HLSB")<br>
{{user5|1=Hlsblair}}<br>
{{user5|1=HLS BLAIR}}<br>
{{user5|1=Mac1953}}<br>
{{IPvandal|68.48.6.226}}<br>
{{IPvandal|68.49.135.68}}<br>
{{IPvandal|68.50.125.89}}<br>
{{IPvandal|68.239.99.121}}<br>
{{IPvandal|141.156.14.238}}<br>
;Evidence
'''IN PROGRESS'''
==Previous reports==
===[[Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Oldwindybear]]===
===[[User:Barneca/Draft SSP report]] (deleted)===
"There is currently an RFCU in place [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear| Here]]. Please note a common misconception, that I am expecting OWB and SS to be editing from the same computer. This is not the case; my evidence #1 implies to me that the user is editing from one location, then travelling and editing from another location. The purpose of the checkuser is to verify that they (including FWS, too) are all three editing from the same geographic location; to investigate the two cases where FWS edited within minutes of OWB; to see if there are any times when the user slipped and edited from the wrong computer; and to see if there are any other potential sockpuppets that I have not found. A checkuser that simply says they are not editing from the same IP is not going to convince me; it's what I expect." - [[User:Barneca]] on [[User:Barneca/Draft SSP report|deleted page]].
===[[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear]]===
This checkuser determined
*that [[User:Stillstudying]] and [[User:Finishedwithschool]] are the same individual, while
*[[User:Oldwindybear]] originates from the same metropolitan area as [[User:Stillstudying|Stillstudying]]/[[User:Finishedwithschool|Finishedwithschool]].<br>
Additionally, this establishes
*That the individual posting as [[User:Stillstudying|Stillstudying]] is a sockpuppeteer.
*That he solicits and conducts conversations with himself to appear as two individuals; e.g.
**SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=141379785&oldid=111137406 12:30, 29 June 2007]
**FWS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=next&oldid=141379785 17:28, 29 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=next&oldid=141429301 16:51, 13 July 2007]
====OWB admits multiple locations/IP addresses====
Early on, OWB admitted having several IP addresses available to him from different locations:
*"ip numbers by themselves are not definitive. Most of us use computers at work, one ip address, and another from home, a second, and in my case, another from school, a third."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=31424888 04:00, 15 December 2005] (as [[User:68.50.125.89]], see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/68.50.125.89 contributions])
*"i had at least 3, one from home, one from work, and two from colleges I am attending"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=32961807 05:17, 28 December 2005] (as [[User:H.L.S. Blair]], see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/H.L.S._Blair contributions])
*"…as for internet addresses, I have used four, three of them onsiderably before teh one you questioned."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34223132 08:56, 7 January 2006]
==Attempts to avoid having to file this report==
===On [[WP:ANI]]===
See [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive274#User:Stillstudying]], particularly: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145875429 09:28, 20 July 2007],[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145882577 10:34, 20 July 2007]
===By e-mail===
Available by request.
==Alleged misconduct==
===Vote stacking/self-nomination===
====[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators/August 2006]]====
*Double votes for self:
**OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=69120802&oldid=69120598 00:18, 12 August 2006]
**SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=69602273&oldid=69578136 15:51, 14 August 2006]
*Double votes for Lord Ameth:
**OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=69123488&oldid=69123374 00:36, 12 August 2006]
**SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=69602273&oldid=69578136 15:51, 14 August 2006]
*Double votes for Kirill Lokshin:
**OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=69120087&oldid=69118269 00:13, 12 August 2006]
**SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=prev&oldid=69573758 12:45, 14 August 2006]
*Double votes for Harlsbottom:
**OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=69131239&oldid=69128625 01:37, 12 August 2006]
**SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=prev&oldid=69573758 12:45, 14 August 2006]
====[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Macrohistorical battles tied to the existence of European civilisation]]====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=109956738&oldid=109949848 01:09, 22 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110189164&oldid=110188906 23:35, 22 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110476331&oldid=110458982 01:28, 24 February 2007]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=110058017 13:10, 22 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110314975&oldid=110286718 12:53, 23 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110361969&oldid=110318338 16:56, 23 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110392692&oldid=110382757 19:09, 23 February 2007]
*FWS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=111112628&oldid=110893687 17:39, 26 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=111128733&oldid=111117533 18:52, 26 February 2007]<br>
Besides just !voting "keep", both OWB and SS agree to change the title.
====[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Oldwindybear|SS nominates OWB for adminship]]====
*On 24 May 2007, SS attempted to nominate OWB for adminship, but used the wrong format:
**SS: "I nominate oldwindybear for adminship because I believe he would do a good job. He was here when I started editing on wikipedia, and is still here, working away. He has been an Assistant Coordinator on the Military History Project, and was always available to help people with any project. I feel he could add to wikipedia as an admin.[[User:Stillstudying|Stillstudying]] 13:51, 24 May 2007" (diff unavailable from [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/oldwindybear|deleted page]])
**OWB: "[[User:Stillstudying|Stillstudying]] I appreciate the offer, but I believe you put it on the wrong page, lol! Nonetheless, if this is a proper nomination, and the other admins approve it, I would be honored and would do my best.[[User:Oldwindybear|old windy bear]] 22:39, 24 May 2007" (diff unavailable from [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/oldwindybear|deleted page]])<br>
*Filed incorrectly, this nomination page was deleted, to be refiled by [[User:TomStar81]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=143031032 03:36, 7 July 2007]
**SS: "'''Strong Support''' The Bear should be promoted because of his help to new editors, his work towards always obtaining consensus, and his insistance on civility. I think it sends a message that hard quiet workers who concentrate on writing articles and helping others can get promoted!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=143475541&oldid=143472526 11:10, 9 July 2007]
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=143302258 11:15, 9 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=143704401&oldid=143660906 11:13, 10 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=143776035&oldid=143764877 18:02, 10 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=144164119 11:41, 12 July 2007] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144186328 14:32, 12 July 2007]
:*FWS: "'''Support''' He deserves it."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=144428342&oldid=144403304 16:43, 13 July 2007]
===[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Peer review/The Searchers (film)|Peer reviews]] own work on [[The Searchers (film)]]===
===SS creates illusion of agreement on talk===
====[[Talk:Bonnie and Clyde]]====
*"I strongly support the existing work oldwindybear has done…I strongly oppose the rewrite proposed."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51518570 12:55, 4 May 2006]
*"I oppose your rewrite, period, for the reasons listed above. I consider every quote in the article a good one, and the entry excellent."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51539258 16:02, 4 May 2006]
*"I know this may come as a surprise, but other people actually disagree with you. I am not oldwindybear."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51553690 17:51, 4 May 2006]
*"I will say this simply and once. I completely oppose the proposed rewrite…The present introduction is excellent…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51672033 12:56, 5 May 2006]
*"I stand by the complaint, and my objection to your rewrite."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51710983 17:57, 5 May 2006]
*"I will not engage you in the personal debate you have with oldwindybear…If oldwindybear does not revert your deletions, I will."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55102522 17:44, 25 May 2006]
====[[Talk:Charles Martel]]====
*OWB attacks a good faith effort to track down a quote: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ACharles_Martel&diff=62285083&oldid=62110577 11:34, July 5, 2006 to 00:50, July 6, 2006]
*SS jumps into the discussion to help browbeat "opponent": [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=62362147 13:00, July 6, 2006]
*Other editor quickly backs down, even though it appears from the discussion that they were correct: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=next&oldid=62362147 18:19, July 6, 2006]
====[[Talk:Battle of Tours]]====
*SS supports OWB in dispute over use of a quotation, and wording of a key phrase: [[Talk:Battle of Tours/archive2#Fix the lead]]
====[[Talk:Frank Hamer]]====
*Apparent relative of Frank Hamer expresses exhaustion about arguing points with OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=prev&oldid=135862659 19:51, June 4, 2007]
*OWB replies, calmly [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=next&oldid=135862659 02:28, June 5, 2007]
*SS attacks [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=next&oldid=135948646 12:05, June 5, 2007]
*OWB asks SS not to attack Frank Hamer, and says not to call Hamer a murderer [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=next&oldid=136040447 20:53, June 5, 2007], although previously OWB does just that when he creates the page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frank_Hamer&oldid=33089218 05:46, December 29, 2005].
====[[Spike (Buffyverse)]]====
*OWB adds OR to [[Spike (Buffyverse)]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spike_%28Buffyverse%29&diff=57945704&oldid=57826696 in four edits June 10, 2006].
*Over the course of a few months, it gets removed.
*SS re-adds the same material: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spike_%28Buffyverse%29&diff=prev&oldid=94299133 15:52, December 14, 2006] and again [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spike_%28Buffyverse%29&diff=prev&oldid=115309098 13:24, March 15, 2007]
====[[Talk:The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress]]====
*SS has a dispute, and calls in OWB for "third opinion": [[Talk:The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress#Second warning on deletion without discussion]]
===SS defends OWB against allegations of plagiarism===
*[[User:Butseriouslyfolks]] alleges plagiarism on [[Council House Fight]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=138297594&oldid=137744953 06:16, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=138325123&oldid=138324584 10:22, 15 June 2007]
*OWB solicits SS:
**"Would you please look at this article, and see if it is a copyright violation?"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=138326647&oldid=137058236 10:36, 15 June 2007]
*SS responds:
**"Done bear!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=138332229 11:27, 15 June 2007]
**"Nonetheless, I have examined the article(s) and cannot find a sentence copied verbatim. Would you identify any you say are? I have checked it carefully for such violations, and cannot find any."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007]
**"Which by your admission was not an exact copy, and further, was attributed. I am sorry, but I don't feel you listed sentences which were exact copies - instead you resorted to wholesale editing for the sake of doing it."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007]
**"I will let oldbear see if he wishes to revert your pointless edits, and I will back him on it if he does."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=next&oldid=138350771 13:54, 15 June 2007]
**"He could not identify one single sentence which allegedly was an "exact" copy, because they did not exist…I will certainly back you if you revert."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138354431 14:18, 15 June 2007]
**"It will be up to Bear to put it back, or revert your edits, which I have made clear I see as pointless. He had removed or changed any exact sentences and complied with [[WP:C]] -- you did not remove those, you ripped the article apart, in my judgment. I am being honest, and this is the last time I post on this. It is up to Bear how he deals with you, he asked for my opinion, and I posted it."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138355030 14:22, 15 June 2007]
**"I printed out the article, and the websites in question, and don't feel that there was a copyright violation…I feel he complied with the law…Because he was the author, I feel he should do any additions or reversions, and I will back him if he does in restoring information I feel should not have been deleted."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138360254 14:54, 15 June 2007], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138360174 14:54, 15 June 2007]<br>
See also similar allegations by [[User:SaltyPig]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34198748 03:18, 7 January 2006] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABonnie_and_Clyde&diff=34224934&oldid=34224329 09:31, 7 January 2006]
===SS agitates for blocks of OWB opponents===
====[[User:Mytwocents]]====
*"I would ask for mediation, and that he be banned for 24 hours for doing these things…This is highly violative of wikipedia policy, and I ask he be stopped."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation&diff=prev&oldid=51694345 15:59, 5 May 2006]
*"…I would request mediation on him, and ask for his banning from editing…He needs to be banned…I can, and have, taken action to stop him."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51696283 16:12, 5 May 2006]<br>
Compare:
*"I am requesting banning for an indefinate period for [[User:Mytwocents|Mytwocents]] for his calling names on an adminstrator's talk page - hugely violative of wikipedia rules…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=51982541&oldid=51977480 14:23, 7 May 2006]
====[[User:New England]]====
=====OWB blocks New England=====
At 18:06 2 July 2007, in his first block since he was entrusted with the tools, OWB blocked [[User:New England]], an editor with an otherwise clean record, for twenty-four hours; see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:New_England block log]. By 09:42 16 July, OWB had lengthened the block to one week:
*"Yesterday a disturbing situation arose on the nomination page for TomStar81 for admin. New England accused me of having nominated him, Tom, bec ause he nominated me for admin. This is provably false, Stillstudying nominated me…I blocked him for 24 hours, and lifted it after telling him I would block him again if he continued false statements.…I warned him that continued false statements would result in another blocking, and he made additional false statements last night on the RfA talk page. He stated I have no right to block him for making false statements - at some point, I do have to do just that, or give up any pretense of enforcing our policies!…I have blocked him for one week for making false accusations…I hope you will support me, and make a stand for our policies on false accusations and wikipedia assume good faith which he has grossly violated. I cannot stay on wikipedia if users are allowed to simply lie about us, repeatedly, without any consequences!…I simply cannot stand by and let this person continue to lie about me. At some point, there has to be some accountability for this kind of slander. I felt I had to take a stand and do something about it. If I am wrong, the block should be lifted, and I will leave wikipedia. I cannot stay and have false statements made about me repeatedly. It is simply wrong, and against our basic policies of not allowing personal attacks."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=144972008 10:17, 16 July 2007]<br>
See [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive271#Block on New England]] for the rest of this discussion.
=====SS backs OWB bad block=====
*"I hope you back his block, what are rules for if no one enforces them?"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deskana&diff=144978415&oldid=144970904 11:19, 16 July 2007]
*"The only fault I find with the bear is that he waited so long to act to stop the endless lying."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:New_England&diff=144980765&oldid=144979824 11:40, 16 July 2007]
*"I think oldwindybear's only fault was waiting so long to act!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980813 11:46, 16 July 2007]
*"Bear, I am gone. They are going to overturn your block of New England, and under the circumstances, I won't stay on wikipedia, and I urge you to come with me."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=144983766 12:06, 16 July 2007]
*"What use are the wikipedia rules on personal attacks if you won't enforce them?'[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144985201 12:27, 16 July 2007]
*"I can't say I blame the bear for blocking him…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145010625 15:04, 16 July 2007]<br>
=====SS accuses New England of deliberately lying about OWB=====
*"The lies against him are contemptable…Are we free just to make up things on people?"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deskana&diff=144978415&oldid=144970904 11:19, 16 July 2007]
*"He is a pathological liar…Instead of shutting this liar down, he was allowed to basically slander the bear throughout wikipedia. He is a liar…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=144978745 11:21, 16 July 2007]
*"…does it bother anyone that open lying went on, and no one seems concerned about the open attacks on a great editor, and new admin, when anyone who read the record knew it was a lie?"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980082 11:35, 16 July 2007]
*"The real issue, that a user lied openly…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=144980504 11:38, 16 July 2007]
*"…this user was allowed to repeatedly lie…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:New_England&diff=144980765&oldid=144979824 11:40, 16 July 2007]
*"…New England deliberately lied and kept lying…he deserves better than to be lied about, over and over."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980813 11:46, 16 July 2007]
*"…lied about him, I am leaving wikipedia. I cannot and will not stay in a place that endorses the kinds of lying involved in this."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144981362 11:53, 16 July 2007]
*"…he lied, over and over…the guy knew he was lying…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=144983766 12:06, 16 July 2007]
*"…you are dead wrong to support open lying, and I am leaving wikipedia - who wants to stay in a place, and work for free, when people support open lying?"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144983888 12:14, 16 July 2007]
*"The guy was making attack after attack on him, which were false? Do you care at all about the truth?" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144984724 12:16, 16 July 2007]
*"…your insinuations run rampant… kept repeating the same lies…repeated the same old false accusations…you knew it was false…I find it incredible that you are protected while making slander after slander, despite knowing it is false."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145009186 14:56, 16 July 2007]
=====SS suggests lifetime ban=====
*"I am filing for mediation on this, and '''asking he be banned'''…Hopefully the other admins will block this clown, and '''get him off wikipedia!'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=144978745 11:21, 16 July 2007]
*"The bear's only fault is he tries to be too reasonable. '''I think this person should be blocked for life.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:New_England&diff=144979611&oldid=144975383 11:30, 16 July 2007]
===Disruption of [[WP:ANI]]===
*[[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive271#Block on New England]]
*[[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive274#User:Stillstudying]]
==Evidence that SS/FWS is OWB==
===Edit times never overlap, consistent with CU result and work/home or school/home scenario===
*As shown in [[/Combined contribution timeline]]
====Typical editing patterns====
A table shown in [[/Combined contribution timeline]] shows all contributions from OWB, SS, and FWS from 4-26-06 to 7-20-07. The edits are listed in order, with edit time (EDT/EST), and page/edit summary.
For much of their editing history since April 2006, OWB has edited nearly daily (with occasional breaks of a few days, obviously). On weekends, OWB’s schedule varied, with edits all over the day. On weekdays, OWB often edited for an hour or so early in the morning, usually stopping around 7:30 local time, followed by a session in the afternoon/evening, starting as early as 14:00, but more commonly around 16:00 local time.
SS only edited during weekdays (except as noted below, a telling exception). Their earliest typical weekday edits are around 08:30 local time, more commonly clustered around noon, and their latest are usually around 13:00 local time, and almost always before 14:00.
There is always a minimum 45 minute gap between when one stops and the other starts. The gap is often longer, however.
====Analysis of instances when OWB edited outside of “normal” weekday hours====
* Friday Aug 25, 2006: OWB edited all day, starting at 08:23 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=71795828], no edits by SS that day.
* Friday Oct 27, 2006: OWB made one edit at 12:07 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rjensen&diff=prev&oldid=84067823], no edits by SS that day.
* Tuesday Feb 6, 2007: OWB made one at 11:31 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jonashart&diff=prev&oldid=106078369], no edits by SS that day.
* Wednesday Feb 14, 2007: OWB made three edits, starting at 11:16 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=108097812], no edits by SS that day.
* Thursday March 22, 2007: OWB started editing early, at 13:34 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=117074629], FWS edited 72 minutes previously [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=117058510], (both editing same article, [[Charles Martel]])
* Friday March 23, 2007: OWB started editing early, at 12:42 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=117315151], SS/FWS edited outside of normal window, 07:45-08:41 local time (last edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Wallace_Rich&diff=prev&oldid=117269877 here]), (FWS/OWB both editing same article, Charles Martel, SS dealing with Pocklington Dan sock puppetry case).
* Friday June 15, 2007: OWB started editing early, at 13:06 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Great_Raid_of_1840&diff=prev&oldid=138384425], SS edited outside of normal window, 07:27-10:55 local time (last edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138360458 here]), (both editing same article, [[Council House Fight]], during a dispute over accusations of a copyvio by OWB).
* Friday June 29, 2007, OWB made one edit at 11:43 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=141410789], SS edited outside normal window, 07:19-10:04 and 13:28-23:11 local time (edit at 10:04 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Films/Peer_review/The_Searchers_%28film%29&diff=prev&oldid=141393392 here]). (SS working on Searchers, OWB responding to SS on his talk page.)
====Analysis of instances when SS/FWS edited outside of “normal” weekday hours====
* Friday June 9, 2006: SS made three early edits, starting at 07:59 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Searchers_%28film%29&diff=prev&oldid=57689400]. No edits by OWB that day
*Monday October 30, 2006: SS made 6 edits between 15:26 and 15:41 local time, starting [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=prev&oldid=84686647 here]. No edits by OWB that day
* Tuesday November 14, 2006, SS made 3 edits between 14:13 and 15:35, starting [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thing_%28comics%29&diff=prev&oldid=87811428 here]. No edits by OWB that day.
* Friday March 23, 2007: see section above.
* Friday June 15, 2007: see section above.
* Friday June 29, 2007: see section above.
* Saturday and Sunday, June 30 – July 1, 2007: For the first and only time in their editing career, spanning 60 weeks, SS edits over a weekend (starting [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=141523337 here]). For one of only six weekends in this 60-week span, OWB does not edit this weekend.
====Analysis of editing pattern on July 17, 2007====
Note that this is the day that Deskana accused OWB of sockpuppetry at 08:24 DC time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=145209512&oldid=145201572 12:24 UTC]), and Barneca followed at 10:10 DC time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145224641 14:14 UTC]).
* OWB makes 4 edits during “typical” period, 05:41-06:00 local time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145191005 09:41]- [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=145192892 10:00 UTC]).
* 79 minutes later SS makes 25 edits, starting much earlier than “normal”, 07:19-11:40 local time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145201300 11:19] – [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145240069 15:40 UTC]).
* 44 minutes later OWB makes 9 edits, starting much earlier than “normal”, 12:24-13:19 local time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145247511 16:24] – [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145257707 17:19 UTC]).
* 72 minutes later SS makes 4 edits, much later in the day than “normal”, 14:31-14:37 local time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145270827 18:31] – [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145271942 18:37 UTC]). SS never edits after this.
* 69 minutes later, OWB begins editing again, at 15:46 local time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145284940 19:46 UTC]).
===Significant overlap in article interests===
Contrary to OWB's assertions (one of which is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145316799 here]), OWB and SS/FWS mutually edited quite a few very diverse articles, showing similarity of interests unlikely to occur in two separate people:
For articles with large quantities of edits, see:
*[http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=Oldwindybear&site=en.wikipedia.org Oldwindybear's "wannabe kate" log]
*[http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=Stillstudying&site=en.wikipedia.org Stillstudying's "wannabe kate" log]
====European history====
*[[Battle of Tours]]: Per wannabe kate, OWB: 423 edits to article, 222 to talk. SS: 9 article, 4 talk.
*[[Charles Martel]]: Per wannabe kate, OWB: 222 article, 93 talk. SS: 10 article, 3 talk.
*[[Macrohistorical battles tied to the existence of European civilisation]]: OWB: per wannabe kate, 63 article, 43 talk. SS: At least one edit to article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=110058392 13:12, February 22, 2007].
====Texas history====
*[[Council House Fight]]: Per wannabe kate: OWB: 28 article, 22 talk. SS: 11 talk.
====US crime====
*[[Bonnie and Clyde]]: Per wannabe kate, OWB: 406 article, 568 talk. SS: 31 article, 35 talk
*[[Frank Hamer]]: Per wannabe kate: OWB: 166 article, 131 talk. SS: 12 talk
*[[John Dillinger]]: OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Dillinger&diff=prev&oldid=37470312 04:42, January 31, 2006]. SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Dillinger&diff=prev&oldid=140746501 14:37, June 26, 2007]
====Books by [[Robert Heinlein]]====
*[[The Star Beast]]: OWB: (as [[User:68.50.125.89]]) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Star_Beast&diff=25715258&oldid=18033380 two edits to article] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Star_Beast&diff=25021221&oldid=24188799 one to talk page]. SS: per wannabe kate, 7 article, 3 talk.
*[[Podkayne of Mars]]: OWB: from [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Podkayne_of_Mars&limit=500&action=history article history], 2 edits as 68.50.125.89 June 18, 2005, 7 edits as Oldwindybear from Sept 3, 2005 to April 25, 2006. From [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Podkayne_of_Mars&limit=500&action=history talk page history], 6 edits from Sept 3, 2005 to April 26, 2006. SS: from article history link above, 3 edits from October 30, 2006 to June 19, 2007.
*[[Citizen of the Galaxy]]: OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=137795253&oldid=137688510 one edit to article], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&action=history six to talk]. SS: 4 edits [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=84688116&oldid=83706313 October 30, 2006] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=137688510&oldid=134024902 June 12, 2007], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&action=history four to talk].
====Buffy====
*[[Spike (Buffyverse)]]: OWB: Four edits to article on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spike_%28Buffyverse%29&diff=57945704&oldid=57826696 June 10, 2006]. SS: two edits to article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spike_%28Buffyverse%29&diff=94299133&oldid=94117623 15:52, December 14, 2006] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spike_%28Buffyverse%29&diff=115309098&oldid=115255546 13:24, March 15, 2007].
====Clint Eastwood movies====
*[[Unforgiven]]: OWB: One edit to article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unforgiven&diff=58678154&oldid=58538074 00:31, June 15, 2006]. SS: per wannabe kate, 14 article.
===Slip-ups===
====First user talk page edits====
*OWB makes first edit to [[User talk:Stillstudying]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=51910411 00:55, 7 May 2006], catches his mistake and attempts a save: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=51910411 12:51, 8 May 2006]
*FWS's first edit to [[User talk:Finishedwithschool]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=prev&oldid=111137406 19:31, 26 February 2007]<br>
And we know that Finishedwithschool is Stillstudying.
====SS changes OWB signature to his own====
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55057304 12:32, 25 May 2006]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=55060813 13:07, 25 May 2006]<br>
This was done manually, not with four tildes.
===Textual idiosyncrasies===
Both OWB and SS have offered the defense that they write in a different style ("I/oldwindybear(…)never said anything in [few words]"):
*OWB:
**"Further, a study of the language shows definite differences - I '''never said anything in''' a couple of sentences in my life."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=51966906 11:22, 7 May 2006]
**See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145248263 16:28, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145327430 23:40, 17 July 2007]
*SS:
**"I myself could not understand how anyone could possibly believe I was oldwindybear, who, no offense, because I like his work, '''never said anything in''' less than forty-two paragraphs, while my edits are brief and to the point. " [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=53341806 16:52, 15 May 2006]<br>
But is it true that OWB and SS write in different styles? Because OWB and SS are the same writer, and the corpus is substantial, it is easy to show that it's not.
====Addresses others by wikilinked username or full signature====
'''NOTE: there are countless other examples of this yet to be added.'''
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34217317 07:18, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34367064 14:13, 8 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34525350 20:15, 9 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34572573 03:37, 10 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34624388 16:58, 10 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34633533 17:37, 10 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34636095 18:04, 10 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User_conduct&diff=prev&oldid=35329756 23:45, 15 January 2006](as Mac1953)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=40999988&oldid=40968446 11:13, 24 February 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=42292572&oldid=42287450 04:14, 5 March 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=44550904&oldid=44548268 20:53, 19 March 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=48586626 17:17, 15 April 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=51146537&oldid=51138613 02:22, 2 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=53483395 10:23, 16 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=prev&oldid=137797062 00:54, 13 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=141410789&oldid=141375729 15:43, 29 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=143476052 00:58, 12 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145071267 20:13, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145251430 16:46, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145504421 19:45, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145505034 19:47, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145505466 19:49, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Night_of_the_Long_Knives&diff=prev&oldid=145543467 23:07, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wandalstouring&diff=prev&oldid=145545316 23:18, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=145636199 09:43, 19 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145750289 20:11, 19 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=145750716 20:13, 19 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=145788532 23:28, 19 July 2007]<br>
:Though earlier on this was often done defectively, the attempt is still visible.
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=53325242 15:09, 15 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55946412 15:47, 30 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=92762927 19:59, 7 December 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110392692&oldid=11038275719:09, 23 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Moon_Is_a_Harsh_Mistress&diff=prev&oldid=131332488 17:13, 16 May 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Films/Peer_review/The_Searchers_%28film%29&diff=141529054&oldid=141525741 02:56, 30 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=141614293 15:30, 30 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=141665859 20:55, 30 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=142040725 17:37, 2 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=143302258 11:15, 9 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=143776035&oldid=143764877 18:02, 10 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144146023 11:10, 12 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144174579 13:16, 12 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144176400 13:20, 12 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144186328 14:32, 12 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:New_England&diff=144979611&oldid=144975383 11:30, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980082 11:35, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980813 11:46, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144983888 12:14, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144985201 12:27, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=145034907 17:50, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145201300 11:19, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145201860 11:24, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145223655 14:04, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145229098 14:38, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Charlie_Huggard/vandalize&diff=prev&oldid=53325753 15:13, 15 May 2006]
*FWS:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=144428774 16:46, 13 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:A_History_of_Violence_%28film%29&diff=prev&oldid=144429104 16:48, 13 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=prev&oldid=144429689 16:51, 13 July 2007]
====Avoids very common contractions====
Both OWB and SS totally or near totally avoid the common contractions "I'm"/"you're"/"he's"/"she's"/""we're"/"you're"/"they're", even "it's" (excepting [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Proabivouac/Oldwindybear%26Stillstudying#.22it.27s.22_.5Bsic..5D the error] shown below.) Similarly, contractions of the future with "_ will" to "_'ll" For obvious reasons, no diffs can be provided, but over dozens of pages of downloaded samples, no counterexamples have been found, while the full phrases appear liberally.
====Shared phrases====
====="I am sorry, but…"=====
*OWB:<br>
**'''I am sorry''' you feel that people writing to support my efforts, and object to Pig's, need to be eliminated. No offense, '''but'''…'''I am sorry, but''' you were wrong to take these issues off the page."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34624388 16:58, 10 January 2006]<br>
**"'''I am sorry, but''' that is plain crazy…'''I am sorry, but''' you pretty much concede there is NO evidence…'''I am sorry, but''' that is really stretching it."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145327430 23:40, 17 July 2007]<br>
:See also:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34370681 15:03, 8 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34502804 15:35, 9 January 2006] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34633533 17:37, 10 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=109956738&oldid=109949848 01:12, 22 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145250958 16:43, 17 July 2007]
*SS:<br>
**"…'''I am sorry, but''' while you certainly edited language, nothing you changed was a direct copy…'''I am sorry, but''' I don't feel you listed sentences which were exact copies…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007]
**"…'''I am sorry''' you feel this is absurd or ridiculous, '''but''' blame me for this, the bear is evidently at work and unable to say a word…'''I am sorry''' you feel that is ridiculous, '''but''' frankly, i feel you have gone way over the line…."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007]<br>
:See also:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50445137 16:52, 27 April 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55060599 13:01, 25 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=prev&oldid=131765456 12:56, 18 May 2007]
====="[bad thing], period."=====
*OWB:
**"That is '''wrong, period.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34634880 17:48, 10 January 2006]
**"SS's behavior was '''terrible''', and I do not endorse it, '''period.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145789885 23:37, 19 July 2007]
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=44550904&oldid=44548268 20:53, 19 March 2006](x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=51146537&oldid=51138613 02:22, 2 May 2006]
*SS:
**"These are '''bad''' edits, '''period.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138354431 14:18, 15 June 2007]<br>
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51539258 16:02, 4 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55060599 13:01, 25 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55069480 14:13, 25 May 2006] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144983888 12:14, 16 July 2007]
====="dead right/wrong"=====
*OWB:
**"Youare '''dead right''' about Tom…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145410418 10:14, 18 July 2007]
**"Sorry Kate, you were '''dead wrong''' on this."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34630209 17:23, 10 January 2006 ]
*SS:
**"I think oldwindybear is '''dead right…'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=53341806 16:52, 15 May 2006]
**"…I think you are '''dead wrong''' to support open lying…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144983888 12:14, 16 July 2007]
====="[editor] is absolutely correct"=====
*OWB:
**"'''Deskana,''' a crat, aware of this, and he advised me to post the block, and the reasons for it, so they cuold be reviewed. I believe '''he is absolutely correct.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=144972008 10:17, 16 July 2007]
**"'''[[User:Kurykh|<font color="#0000C0" face="cursive">Kurykh</font>]]''' said, and '''he is absolutely correct'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145513383 20:26, 18 July 2007]
*SS:
**"'''[[User:Doctor France|Doctor France]] is absolutely correct.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=110058392 13:12, 22 February 2007]
=====*"There are/is [sic.] only so many ways… [to reword sourced material]"=====
*OWB:
**"'''There are only so many ways''' to write an article, stating teh basic facts…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34216134 07:01, 7 January 2006]
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138326889 10:38, 15 June 2007]
*SS:
**"Bear is right that when dealing with historical data, '''there is only so many ways''' you can cite it." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007]
====="I frankly/frankly I…[bad thing]…I don't know/think…and frankly, (I) don't want"=====
*OWB:
**"'''I frankly''' hope not to have any interaction with the person posting as [[User:Stillstudying]]/[[User:Finishedwithschool]] again…'''I don't know''' them, '''and frankly,''' '''don't want''' to."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145763331 21:14, 19 July 2007]
*SS:
**"'''frankly. I''' thought you were a poor choice for assistant military coordinator because of exactly this type of controversy…'''I don't think''' you want that, '''and frankly,''' I '''don't want''' it for you or anyone else who is serious about wikipedia."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Wallace_Rich&diff=117268226&oldid=116942262 12:29, 23 March 2007]
====="You are a good person…(but) Pig/New England [is constantly] lying"=====
*OWB:
:"…'''you are a good person''' who is trying to be fair. '''But''' I am not letting '''Pig''' post '''constant lying''' and negative comments about me…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34495151 13:40, 9 January 2006]
*SS:
:"'''You are a good person'''…I think that the real issue is that '''New England''' deliberately '''lied and kept lying'''…'''You are a good person''', '''but''' wrong in this instance."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980813 11:46, 16 July 2007]
====="wholesale [deletions] (without any discussion)"=====
*OWB:
**"…'''delete facts wholesale'''…when you '''rewrite articles wholesale'''…your '''wholesale deletions''',…It does not mean you simply '''delete facts wholesale'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=44550904&oldid=44548268 20:53, 19 March 2006]
**"You came here twice, and made '''wholesale deletions'''…'''without any discussion'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=51146537&oldid=51138613 02:22, 2 May 2006]
*SS:
**"…The issue is the right of anyone to unilaterally '''delete sections of an article wholesale''', '''without any discussion.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55060599 13:01, 25 May 2006]
**"instead you resorted to '''wholesale editing'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007]
====="abrogates/destroys all vestige of"=====
*OWB:
**"This is a sad travety that totally '''abrogates all vestige of''' wikipedia assume good faith.old windy bear 02:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)" (diff unavailable from [[User:Barneca/Draft SSP report|deleted page]])
*SS:
**"It '''destroys all vestige of''' consensus."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=142870146 11:24, 6 July 2007]<br>
While not ungrammatical, this is [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22all+vestige+of%22&btnG=Search far less common] than [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22all+vestige+of%22&btnG=Search "all vestiges of"] or [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22any+vestige+of%22&btnG=Search "any vestige of"]; see also [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22all+vestige+of%22+Wikipedia&btnG=Search "all vestige of" + Wikipedia].
====="hugely/deeply/highly violative of wikipedia rules/policy"=====
*OWB:
**"…'''- hugely violative of wikipedia rules -'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=51982541&oldid=51977480 14:23, 7 May 2006]
**"It would be '''deeply violative of wikipedia rules'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Peer_review/Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=50959045 23:14, 30 April 2006]
*SS:
**"This is '''highly violative of wikipedia policy'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation&diff=prev&oldid=51694345 15:59, 5 May 2006]<br>
The rarity of this phrase is shown by Googling [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22violative+of+wikipedia%22&btnG=Search "violative of wikipedia."]
====="wikipedia rules" (i.e. policies)=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=51982541&oldid=51977480 14:23, 7 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Peer_review/Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=50959045 23:14, 30 April 2006]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50415003 12:55, 27 April 2006 (first edit)][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51539258 16:02, 4 May 2006](x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51710983 17:57, 5 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=prev&oldid=131765456 12:56, 18 May 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3rd_Battalion_6th_Marines&diff=prev&oldid=94046573 13:12, 13 December 2006]
*FWS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=111128733&oldid=111117533 18:52, 26 February 2007]
====="you must learn the rules/rules…it is time you learned"=====
*OWB:
**"But '''you must learn the rules''', and abide by them."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Wallace_Rich&diff=117268226&oldid=116942262 12:29, 23 March 2007]
*SS:
**"You simply do not do that under wikipedia '''rules''', and '''it is time you learned it.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51710983 17:57, 5 May 2006]
====="I find/think [something] sad"=====
*OWB:
**"…which I find sad."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=22657138 23:59, 5 September 2005]
**"I find you sad…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34230727 11:23, 7 January 2006]
**"This is sad."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145327430 23:40, 17 July 2007]
*SS:
**"…I find that really sad.… I think it is sad!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=144980504 11:38, 16 July 2007]
====="My friend, …"=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138390257 17:38, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145789672 23:36, 19 July 2007]
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=53483395 10:23, 16 May 2006]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Charlie_Huggard/vandalize&diff=prev&oldid=53325629 15:12, 15 May 2006]
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=141614293 15:30, 30 June 2007]
====="I am myself and no other/I am not anyone but myself/I am no one but me"=====
*OWB:
**"…I am myself, and no other."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145791683 23:48, 19 July 2007]
**"…I am not anyone but myself."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=146962164&oldid=146951043 10:00 25 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Oldwindybear&diff=146962245&oldid=144838848 10:01, 25 July 2007]
*SS:
**"I am no one but me."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145270827 18:31, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145237472 15:26, 17 July 2007]
====Overused words====
====="simply"=====
*OWB:
**"I cannot stay on wikipedia if users are allowed to '''simply''' lie about us, repeatedly, without any consequences! I spend at least 20 hours a week working on articles, and I try to get along with everyone, but I '''simply''' cannot stand by and let this person continue to lie about me…It is '''simply''' wrong, and against our basic policies of not allowing personal attacks."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=144972008 10:17, 16 July 2007]
**See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34231282 11:35, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=44550904&oldid=44548268 20:53, 19 March 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=48582012 16:35, 15 April 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=144972008 10:17, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=145506395&oldid=145505980 19:52, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Night_of_the_Long_Knives&diff=prev&oldid=145543467 23:07, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145789672 23:36, 19 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145791683 23:48, 19 July 2007]
*SS:
**"But please cease '''simply''' reverting my edits without discussion in complete violation of wikipedia policy. I have no idea why you reverted - your failure to discuss the reversions leave me wondering whether you did so because you consider them original research, or whatever. So please stop, and discuss reverting before '''simply''' doing so. Unless you discuss your reversion, I am '''simply''' reverting back."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Moon_Is_a_Harsh_Mistress&diff=prev&oldid=131332488 17:13, 16 May 2007]
**See also:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50415003 12:55, 27 April 2006 (first edit)][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51539258 16:02, 4 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51672033 12:56, 5 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation&diff=prev&oldid=51698700 16:28, 5 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51710983 17:57, 5 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=52133623 12:45, 8 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=52481895&oldid=52382503 13:06, 10 May 2006](x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55060599 13:01, 25 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55946412 15:47, 30 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=110058017 13:10, 22 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Wallace_Rich&diff=117268226&oldid=116942262 12:29, 23 March 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138360254 14:54, 15 June 2007]
====="frankly"=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145763331 21:14, 19 July 2007](x2),[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=22660028 00:39, 6 September 2005][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=33642688 21:51, 2 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34224329 09:19, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34633533 17:37, 10 January 2006] (also "I am sorry, but")[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=51146537&oldid=51138613 02:22, 2 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mongol_military_tactics_and_organization&diff=prev&oldid=130620029 21:09, 13 May 2007] (x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145789672 23:36, 19 July 2007] (also "simply")
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Wallace_Rich&diff=117268226&oldid=116942262 12:29, 23 March 2007] (x2, also "simply")[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50415003 12:55, 27 April 2006 (first edit)] (also "simply")[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=52481895&oldid=52382503 13:06, 10 May 2006] (also "simply" x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=53325242 15:09, 15 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Films/Peer_review/The_Searchers_%28film%29&diff=141529054&oldid=141525741 02:56, 30 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007](also "I am sorry…but" x2)
====="certainly"=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145248263 16:28, 17 July 2007](x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145251430 16:46, 17 July 2007](x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=33636259 21:00, 2 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34256601 17:16, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=51146537&oldid=51138613 02:22, 2 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mongol_military_tactics_and_organization&diff=prev&oldid=130620029 21:09, 13 May 2007](also "frankly"x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=prev&oldid=136146350 20:53, 5 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=prev&oldid=137794628 00:38, 13 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Butseriouslyfolks&diff=prev&oldid=138323365 10:06, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=140599245 20:43, 25 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145504421 19:45, 18 July 2007]
*SS:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007](x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110361969&oldid=110318338 16:56, 23 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110392692&oldid=110382757 19:09, 23 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138354431 14:18, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145010625 15:04, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145016519 15:37, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=145223655&oldid=145222196 14:04, 17 July 2007]
====="feel" (i.e. think/believe)=====
*OWB:
**"If the guy '''feels''' I quoted him -- and I obviously '''feel''' i did not…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34256077 17:11, 7 January 2006]<br>
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=22660028 00:39, 6 September 2005] (also "frankly")[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:HLS_BLAIR&diff=prev&oldid=32908584 20:22, 27 December 2005] (as HLSB)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34256601 17:16, 7 January 2006] (also "certainly")[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/TomStar81&diff=next&oldid=144587474 11:43, 14 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138326889 10:38, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=142317152 20:58, 3 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145247511 16:24, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145251430 16:46, 17 July 2007]
*SS:
**":…I…don't '''feel''' that there was a copyright violation…I '''feel''' he complied with the law…Because he was the author, I '''feel''' he should do any additions or reversions, and I will back him if he does in restoring information I '''feel''' should not have been deleted…I simply '''feel''' you are wrong…"this."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138360254 14:54, 15 June 2007] (also "simply)"
**•"…I am sorry you '''feel''' this is absurd or ridiculous… I am sorry you '''feel''' that is ridiculous, but frankly, i '''feel'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007] (also "I am sorry…but", "frankly")<br>
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=133171467 13:53, 24 May 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=137685078 14:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007] (x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Films/Peer_review/The_Searchers_%28film%29&diff=141529054&oldid=141525741 02:56, 30 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145046369 18:15, 16 July 2007]
====="note" (i.e. observe)=====
*OWB:
**"…as somone else '''noted''', I am removing the accusation from my user page pending check/user - I do '''note'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=51982541&oldid=51977480 14:23, 7 May 2006]<br>
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34216134 07:01, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=137744953 20:10, 12 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Butseriouslyfolks&diff=prev&oldid=138323365 10:06, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145247511 16:24, 17 July 2007]
*SS:
**"…would '''note''' his concern, and ask for clarification, which I would have given! But as you '''note'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=145223655&oldid=145222196 14:04, 17 July 2007]<br>
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=52485047&oldid=52482060 13:34, 10 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55946412 15:47, 30 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=92762927 19:59, 7 December 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3rd_Battalion_6th_Marines&diff=prev&oldid=94046573 13:12, 13 December 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=141614293 15:30, 30 June 2007](x2)
====Shared spelling errors====
As google statistics change daily, they may be slightly different when you examine them than when they were tallied.
====="it's" [sic.]=====
This contraction is never used for "it is", but for the possessive "its":
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=33871167 18:45, 4 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34216134 07:01, 7 January 2006 (x2)] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34230727 11:23, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=42292572&oldid=42287450 04:14, 5 March 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=145061257 20:42, 16 July 2007]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51539258 16:02, 4 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3rd_Battalion_6th_Marines&diff=prev&oldid=94046573 13:12, 13 December 2006]
No examples of correct usage were found in the downloaded corpus.
====="plagerize/plagerism" [sic.]=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34216134 07:01, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34254176 16:52, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34504523 15:48, 9 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138390257 17:38, 15 June 2007]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55946412 15:47, 30 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007]<br>
No examples of correct usage were found in the downloaded corpus. See [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=plagerize&btnG=Search plagerize: 50,000] vs. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=plagiarize&btnG=Search plagiarize: 921,000] (approx. 1:18), [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=plagerism&btnG=Search plagerism: 202,000] vs.[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=plagiarism&btnG=Search plagiarism: 11,600,000] (approx. 1:57)
====="challange/challanging" [sic.]=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SaltyPig&diff=34375161&oldid=34369582 16:02, 8 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=35331299&oldid=35281960 23:59, 15 January 2006](as Mac1953)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=40959996 03:16, 24 February 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=48582012 16:35, 15 April 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=48602752 19:34, 15 April 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Peer_review/Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=50958182 23:08, 30 April 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=51101620 20:59, 1 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=62240876 20:02, 5 July 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=62954105 23:18, 9 July 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Night_of_the_Long_Knives&diff=prev&oldid=145543467 23:07, 18 July 2007]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=62362147 13:00, 6 July 2006]
No examples of correct usage were found in the downloaded corpus. See [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=challange&btnG=Google+Search challange: 2,440,000] vs. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=challenge&btnG=Search challenge: 286,000,000] (approx. 1:117), [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=challanging&btnG=Search challanging: 163,000] vs. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=challenging&btnG=Search challlenging: 87,000,000] (approx. 1:534).
====="apparant/apparantly" [sic.]=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=53483395 10:23, 16 May 2006]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51384474 16:45, 3 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=prev&oldid=54528595 14:14, 22 May 2006] <br>
No examples of correct usage were found in the downloaded corpus. See [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=apparantly&btnG=Search apparantly: 1,300,000] vs. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=apparently&btnG=Search apparently: 127,000,000] (approx. 1:98)
====="resembalance" [sic.]=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=53483395 10:23, 16 May 2006]
*FWS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Searchers_%28film%29&diff=prev&oldid=141430690 17:36, 29 June 2007]<br>
No examples of correct usage were found in the downloaded corpus. See [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=resembalance&btnG=Search resembalance: 932] vs.[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=resemblance&btnG=Search resemblance: 13,600,000](approx. 1:14,592)
=====Typographical metathesis=====
*OWB:
**"…teh…ashmaed…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34223132 08:56, 7 January 2006]
**"…adn…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34224112 09:15, 7 January 2006]
**"…otu…teh…husbadn…checkgin…teh…teh…oru…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34231282 11:35, 7 January 2006]
**"…nothihgn…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34249488 16:03, 7 January 2006]
**"…becuase…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34264949 18:39, 7 January 2006]
**"…failign…contrbiute…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34281907 21:18, 7 January 2006]
**"…saem…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34504523 15:48, 9 January 2006]
**"…oen…teh…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34624388 16:58, 10 January 2006]
**"…adn…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34630209 17:23, 10 January 2006]
**"…mroe…'[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=53483395 10:23, 16 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144777460 14:09, 15 July 2007]
**"…Blcok…cuold…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=144972008 10:17, 16 July 2007]
**"…teh…teh…adn…htem…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145071267 20:13, 16 July 2007]
**"…owrk…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=145061257 20:42, 16 July 2007]
**"…otehr…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145248263 16:28, 17 July 2007]
**"…konw…" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145251430 16:46, 17 July 2007]
**"…adn…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145410418 10:14, 18 July 2007]
**"…hpoe…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=145756733 20:40, 19 July 2007]
*SS:
**"…nomianted…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:New_England&diff=144979611&oldid=144975383 11:30, 16 July 2007]
**"…messgaes…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007]
===SS persona===
====Speaks for "the bear"====
From his very third edit, Stillstudying seems to know what Oldwindybear ("the bear") is thinking, feeling, doing and planning, and why:
*"Oldwindybear had toned down those direct quotes to avoid an article that might be interpreted as being pro B & C, which I do not gather he is."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51384474 16:45, 3 May 2006]
*"…while oldwindybear may not resent this, I do…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51696283 16:12, 5 May 2006]
*"Frankly, oldwindybear appears to love this site…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=53325242 15:09, 15 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Charlie_Huggard/vandalize&diff=prev&oldid=53325629 15:12, 15 May 2006]
*"Hey Bear…You were trying to tone down the language…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=62362147 13:00, 6 July 2006]
*"I ascertain from Bear's posting that he felt'''…'''Bear must have agreed…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007]
*"He won't defend himself further, for reasons I don't care to second guess."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980813 11:46, 16 July 2007]
*"…my interaction with him over a year tells me he would probably apologize if he was online to do so. I will certainly apologize…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145016519 15:37, 16 July 2007]
*"Ha! I bet he would. he tends to be more diplomatic than myself, so I bet he would."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=145019403 16:28, 16 July 2007]
*"…blame me for this, the bear is evidently at work and unable to say a word...I cannot speak for the bear, but messgaes on my talk page indicate he is not happy with me for pursuing this, so I would assume he would do most anything to end this…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007]
*"I doubt he will, and would urge him not to…and the tone was he would accept Deskana's ruling…I expect him to take a more reasoned tack, which is just his way, I would be genuinely surprised if he yielded an adminship which got not one opposing vote because of this."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145034780 17:18, 16 July 2007]
*"…I see why the bear likes you."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145204859 11:48, 17 July 2007]
====Adulation of "the bear"====
Stillstudying displays an unusual and fanatical admiration and adulation of "the bear::"
*"You would think people would learn - beating you on the quote game is not going to happen."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=6236214 13:00, 6 July 2006]
*"…the best editor on wikipedia…Your only fault is you are too soft hearted!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=144978745 11:21, 16 July 2007]
*"No wonder I nominated the bear!…The bear's only fault is he tries to be too reasonable."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:New_England&diff=144979611&oldid=144975383 11:30, 16 July 2007]
*"…they don't care that you spend an incredible amount of time working on this encyclopedia."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=144983766 12:06, 16 July 2007]
*"…people like…the bear are why I am pleased to be a part of this project."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145207417 12:08, 17 July 2007]
===="Bear is right"====
*"Oldwindybear is right..." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50415003 12:55, 27 April 2006]
*"…oldwindybear is dead right…" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=53341806 16:52, 15 May 2006]
*"…and Bear is right…" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007]
*"I have to agree with oldwindybear…" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007]
*"The Bear was right…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144146023 11:10, 12 July 2007]
===Overcompensation===
====OWB overcompensation====
=====Self-nomination=====
*"And I understand his refusal to self nominate, I would not either, and that is not knocking those who self nominate, you just feel that when it is your time, someone will nominate you..."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/TomStar81&diff=next&oldid=144587474 11:43, 14 July 2007]
====="work with him and myself"=====
*"I urge you to work with him and myself…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=prev&oldid=137795523 00:44, 13 June 2007] must
*"I urge you to work with him, myself, and anyone else who is interested…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=prev&oldid=137797380 00:56, 13 June 2007]
=====Stages minor difference of opinion=====
*"you usually support me, lol!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=prev&oldid=136146350 20:53, 5 June 2007]
=====Using different computers=====
*"I don't think anyone would seriously suggest someone would edit for over a year, 500 plus edits, and never use the same computer if it was the same person!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145410418 10:14, 18 July 2007]
====="SS imitated my signal greeting"=====
*"…though SS imitated my signal greeting, he did not get it right…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145504421 19:45, 18 July 2007]
====SS overcompensation====
====="I am a new user"=====
*"I am a new user, who…until today, had not contributed or commented…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50415003 12:55, 27 April 2006]
*"I am a new user, so this is coming from a dispassionate person, who has not previously engaged in this argument."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50445137 16:52, 27 April 2006]
*"I must weigh in on this one, though I generally am a reader, rather than writer."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51518570 12:55, 4 May 2006]
=====First user page edits=====
*SS: "I am a student, in other words, one who is learning. Wikipedia is a great tool for that. Until recently, I have been more of an inactive reader. I have become more active, and intend to be more so, especially in political issues, and those of historical interest to me"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=51698259 16:25, 5 May 2006]
*FWS: "I had not previously created an account, but some of the issues I have observed ongoing decided me to create an account, so my voice could be heard, other than a mere internet number."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Finishedwithschool&diff=prev&oldid=111064248 12:36, 26 February 2007]<br>
Like Finishedwithschool, Stillstudying is a sock of someone else.
=====Signature slip-up=====
*"I did not write the above section, and don't know who changed it to show I wrote it, but the history shows oldwindybear wrote it."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=55060813 13:07, 25 May 2006]
=====First sock accusation=====
*"When I first arrived on wikipedia, I was accused of being oldwindybear. That was dismissed for no evidence. That was a year ago, and no one has made that idiotic claim since."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Wallace_Rich&diff=116762458&oldid=116647222 12:24, 21 March 2007]
=====Edit times=====
*"I was away for the weekend and missed all this."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deskana&diff=144978415&oldid=144970904 11:19, 16 July 2007] (SS is ''always'' away for the weekend).
====="I cannot speak for the bear/oldwindybear, [but…]"=====
*"I can not and will not speak for the Bear."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145009186 14:56, 16 July 2007]
*"I cannot speak for oldwindybear, but…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145016519 15:37, 16 July 2007]
*"I cannot speak for the bear, but…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007]
*"I cannot speak for the bear, but…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145034780 17:18, 16 July 2007]
===FWS persona===
[[User:Finishedwithschool]] presents a two-dimensional persona, with many diffs denouncing "political correctness:"
*"'''Political correctness''' rules the day."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=111112628 17:39, 26 February 2007]
*"I hate '''political correctness'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Finishedwithschool&diff=prev&oldid=111116117 17:54, 26 February 2007]
*"…till he and his '''politically correct''' comrades inspired me to finally create an account and call their comments what they are."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Chalons&diff=prev&oldid=111117002 17:58, 26 February 2007]
*"Anyone with an intelligent point of view, which is not '''politically correct''', is welcome here to discuss it!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=prev&oldid=111137406 19:31, 26 February 2007]
*"This is yet another example of '''political correctness''' running amok."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=112820821 15:24, 5 March 2007]
*"It is still pandering to the '''politically correct'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=113565012 13:20, 8 March 2007]
*"This is what I mean about '''politically correct.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=116840766 18:51, 21 March 2007]
*"Damn right, I am very '''politically incorrect.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=prev&oldid=141429301 17:28, 29 June 2007]
====History vs. political correctness====
This phrase may also be found, juxtaposed against "history," in the contributions of both OWB and SS/FWS:
*OWB:
**"…who do not seem as interested in the truth, or accurate '''history, but political correctness.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Oldwindybear&diff=32961616&oldid=32611332 05:15, 28 December 2005] (as HSLB)
*SS:
**"I became interested in Bonnie and Clyde, because of the movie, and edited because I felt it was a case of '''political correctness against history.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=52133623 12:45, 8 May 2006]
*FWS:
**"*"And the logic that he outlined was sound ''''history, not PC'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=113061756 14:02, 6 March 2007]
====Calls his other username "Still"====
*FWS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=144428774 16:46, 13 July 2007]
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=110047238&oldid=108081332 11:38, 22 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=prev&oldid=137971821 19:52, 13 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138390257 17:38, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=143797730 19:44, 10 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:A_History_of_Violence_%28film%29&diff=prev&oldid=144795252 14:14, 15 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=145061257 20:42, 16 July 2007]<br>
;Comments
{{user5|1=Oldwindybear}} ("OWB")
;Suspected sockpuppets
{{user5|1=Stillstudying}} ("SS")<br>
{{user5|1=Finishedwithschool}} ("FWS")<br>
{{user5|1=H.L.S. Blair}} ("HLSB")<br>
{{user5|1=Hlsblair}}<br>
{{user5|1=HLS BLAIR}}<br>
{{user5|1=Mac1953}}<br>
{{IPvandal|68.48.6.226}}<br>
{{IPvandal|68.49.135.68}}<br>
{{IPvandal|68.50.125.89}}<br>
{{IPvandal|68.239.99.121}}<br>
{{IPvandal|141.156.14.238}}<br>
;Evidence
'''IN PROGRESS'''
==Previous reports==
===[[Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Oldwindybear]]===
===[[User:Barneca/Draft SSP report]] (deleted)===
"There is currently an RFCU in place [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear| Here]]. Please note a common misconception, that I am expecting OWB and SS to be editing from the same computer. This is not the case; my evidence #1 implies to me that the user is editing from one location, then travelling and editing from another location. The purpose of the checkuser is to verify that they (including FWS, too) are all three editing from the same geographic location; to investigate the two cases where FWS edited within minutes of OWB; to see if there are any times when the user slipped and edited from the wrong computer; and to see if there are any other potential sockpuppets that I have not found. A checkuser that simply says they are not editing from the same IP is not going to convince me; it's what I expect." - [[User:Barneca]] on [[User:Barneca/Draft SSP report|deleted page]].
===[[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear]]===
This checkuser determined
*that [[User:Stillstudying]] and [[User:Finishedwithschool]] are the same individual, while
*[[User:Oldwindybear]] originates from the same metropolitan area as [[User:Stillstudying|Stillstudying]]/[[User:Finishedwithschool|Finishedwithschool]].<br>
Additionally, this establishes
*That the individual posting as [[User:Stillstudying|Stillstudying]] is a sockpuppeteer.
*That he solicits and conducts conversations with himself to appear as two individuals; e.g.
**SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=141379785&oldid=111137406 12:30, 29 June 2007]
**FWS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=next&oldid=141379785 17:28, 29 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=next&oldid=141429301 16:51, 13 July 2007]
====OWB admits multiple locations/IP addresses====
Early on, OWB admitted having several IP addresses available to him from different locations:
*"ip numbers by themselves are not definitive. Most of us use computers at work, one ip address, and another from home, a second, and in my case, another from school, a third."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=31424888 04:00, 15 December 2005] (as [[User:68.50.125.89]], see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/68.50.125.89 contributions])
*"i had at least 3, one from home, one from work, and two from colleges I am attending"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=32961807 05:17, 28 December 2005] (as [[User:H.L.S. Blair]], see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/H.L.S._Blair contributions])
*"…as for internet addresses, I have used four, three of them onsiderably before teh one you questioned."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34223132 08:56, 7 January 2006]
==Attempts to avoid having to file this report==
===On [[WP:ANI]]===
See [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive274#User:Stillstudying]], particularly: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145875429 09:28, 20 July 2007],[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145882577 10:34, 20 July 2007]
===By e-mail===
Available by request.
==Alleged misconduct==
===Vote stacking/self-nomination===
====[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators/August 2006]]====
*Double votes for self:
**OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=69120802&oldid=69120598 00:18, 12 August 2006]
**SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=69602273&oldid=69578136 15:51, 14 August 2006]
*Double votes for Lord Ameth:
**OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=69123488&oldid=69123374 00:36, 12 August 2006]
**SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=69602273&oldid=69578136 15:51, 14 August 2006]
*Double votes for Kirill Lokshin:
**OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=69120087&oldid=69118269 00:13, 12 August 2006]
**SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=prev&oldid=69573758 12:45, 14 August 2006]
*Double votes for Harlsbottom:
**OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=69131239&oldid=69128625 01:37, 12 August 2006]
**SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/August_2006&diff=prev&oldid=69573758 12:45, 14 August 2006]
====[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Macrohistorical battles tied to the existence of European civilisation]]====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=109956738&oldid=109949848 01:09, 22 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110189164&oldid=110188906 23:35, 22 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110476331&oldid=110458982 01:28, 24 February 2007]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=110058017 13:10, 22 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110314975&oldid=110286718 12:53, 23 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110361969&oldid=110318338 16:56, 23 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110392692&oldid=110382757 19:09, 23 February 2007]
*FWS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=111112628&oldid=110893687 17:39, 26 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=111128733&oldid=111117533 18:52, 26 February 2007]<br>
Besides just !voting "keep", both OWB and SS agree to change the title.
====[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Oldwindybear|SS nominates OWB for adminship]]====
*On 24 May 2007, SS attempted to nominate OWB for adminship, but used the wrong format:
**SS: "I nominate oldwindybear for adminship because I believe he would do a good job. He was here when I started editing on wikipedia, and is still here, working away. He has been an Assistant Coordinator on the Military History Project, and was always available to help people with any project. I feel he could add to wikipedia as an admin.[[User:Stillstudying|Stillstudying]] 13:51, 24 May 2007" (diff unavailable from [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/oldwindybear|deleted page]])
**OWB: "[[User:Stillstudying|Stillstudying]] I appreciate the offer, but I believe you put it on the wrong page, lol! Nonetheless, if this is a proper nomination, and the other admins approve it, I would be honored and would do my best.[[User:Oldwindybear|old windy bear]] 22:39, 24 May 2007" (diff unavailable from [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/oldwindybear|deleted page]])<br>
*Filed incorrectly, this nomination page was deleted, to be refiled by [[User:TomStar81]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=143031032 03:36, 7 July 2007]
**SS: "'''Strong Support''' The Bear should be promoted because of his help to new editors, his work towards always obtaining consensus, and his insistance on civility. I think it sends a message that hard quiet workers who concentrate on writing articles and helping others can get promoted!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=143475541&oldid=143472526 11:10, 9 July 2007]
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=143302258 11:15, 9 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=143704401&oldid=143660906 11:13, 10 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=143776035&oldid=143764877 18:02, 10 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=144164119 11:41, 12 July 2007] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144186328 14:32, 12 July 2007]
:*FWS: "'''Support''' He deserves it."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=144428342&oldid=144403304 16:43, 13 July 2007]
===[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Peer review/The Searchers (film)|Peer reviews]] own work on [[The Searchers (film)]]===
===SS creates illusion of agreement on talk===
====[[Talk:Bonnie and Clyde]]====
*"I strongly support the existing work oldwindybear has done…I strongly oppose the rewrite proposed."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51518570 12:55, 4 May 2006]
*"I oppose your rewrite, period, for the reasons listed above. I consider every quote in the article a good one, and the entry excellent."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51539258 16:02, 4 May 2006]
*"I know this may come as a surprise, but other people actually disagree with you. I am not oldwindybear."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51553690 17:51, 4 May 2006]
*"I will say this simply and once. I completely oppose the proposed rewrite…The present introduction is excellent…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51672033 12:56, 5 May 2006]
*"I stand by the complaint, and my objection to your rewrite."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51710983 17:57, 5 May 2006]
*"I will not engage you in the personal debate you have with oldwindybear…If oldwindybear does not revert your deletions, I will."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55102522 17:44, 25 May 2006]
====[[Talk:Charles Martel]]====
*OWB attacks a good faith effort to track down a quote: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ACharles_Martel&diff=62285083&oldid=62110577 11:34, July 5, 2006 to 00:50, July 6, 2006]
*SS jumps into the discussion to help browbeat "opponent": [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=62362147 13:00, July 6, 2006]
*Other editor quickly backs down, even though it appears from the discussion that they were correct: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=next&oldid=62362147 18:19, July 6, 2006]
====[[Talk:Battle of Tours]]====
*SS supports OWB in dispute over use of a quotation, and wording of a key phrase: [[Talk:Battle of Tours/archive2#Fix the lead]]
====[[Talk:Frank Hamer]]====
*Apparent relative of Frank Hamer expresses exhaustion about arguing points with OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=prev&oldid=135862659 19:51, June 4, 2007]
*OWB replies, calmly [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=next&oldid=135862659 02:28, June 5, 2007]
*SS attacks [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=next&oldid=135948646 12:05, June 5, 2007]
*OWB asks SS not to attack Frank Hamer, and says not to call Hamer a murderer [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=next&oldid=136040447 20:53, June 5, 2007], although previously OWB does just that when he creates the page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frank_Hamer&oldid=33089218 05:46, December 29, 2005].
====[[Spike (Buffyverse)]]====
*OWB adds OR to [[Spike (Buffyverse)]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spike_%28Buffyverse%29&diff=57945704&oldid=57826696 in four edits June 10, 2006].
*Over the course of a few months, it gets removed.
*SS re-adds the same material: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spike_%28Buffyverse%29&diff=prev&oldid=94299133 15:52, December 14, 2006] and again [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spike_%28Buffyverse%29&diff=prev&oldid=115309098 13:24, March 15, 2007]
====[[Talk:The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress]]====
*SS has a dispute, and calls in OWB for "third opinion": [[Talk:The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress#Second warning on deletion without discussion]]
===SS defends OWB against allegations of plagiarism===
*[[User:Butseriouslyfolks]] alleges plagiarism on [[Council House Fight]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=138297594&oldid=137744953 06:16, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=138325123&oldid=138324584 10:22, 15 June 2007]
*OWB solicits SS:
**"Would you please look at this article, and see if it is a copyright violation?"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=138326647&oldid=137058236 10:36, 15 June 2007]
*SS responds:
**"Done bear!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=138332229 11:27, 15 June 2007]
**"Nonetheless, I have examined the article(s) and cannot find a sentence copied verbatim. Would you identify any you say are? I have checked it carefully for such violations, and cannot find any."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007]
**"Which by your admission was not an exact copy, and further, was attributed. I am sorry, but I don't feel you listed sentences which were exact copies - instead you resorted to wholesale editing for the sake of doing it."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007]
**"I will let oldbear see if he wishes to revert your pointless edits, and I will back him on it if he does."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=next&oldid=138350771 13:54, 15 June 2007]
**"He could not identify one single sentence which allegedly was an "exact" copy, because they did not exist…I will certainly back you if you revert."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138354431 14:18, 15 June 2007]
**"It will be up to Bear to put it back, or revert your edits, which I have made clear I see as pointless. He had removed or changed any exact sentences and complied with [[WP:C]] -- you did not remove those, you ripped the article apart, in my judgment. I am being honest, and this is the last time I post on this. It is up to Bear how he deals with you, he asked for my opinion, and I posted it."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138355030 14:22, 15 June 2007]
**"I printed out the article, and the websites in question, and don't feel that there was a copyright violation…I feel he complied with the law…Because he was the author, I feel he should do any additions or reversions, and I will back him if he does in restoring information I feel should not have been deleted."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138360254 14:54, 15 June 2007], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138360174 14:54, 15 June 2007]<br>
See also similar allegations by [[User:SaltyPig]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34198748 03:18, 7 January 2006] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABonnie_and_Clyde&diff=34224934&oldid=34224329 09:31, 7 January 2006]
===SS agitates for blocks of OWB opponents===
====[[User:Mytwocents]]====
*"I would ask for mediation, and that he be banned for 24 hours for doing these things…This is highly violative of wikipedia policy, and I ask he be stopped."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation&diff=prev&oldid=51694345 15:59, 5 May 2006]
*"…I would request mediation on him, and ask for his banning from editing…He needs to be banned…I can, and have, taken action to stop him."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51696283 16:12, 5 May 2006]<br>
Compare:
*"I am requesting banning for an indefinate period for [[User:Mytwocents|Mytwocents]] for his calling names on an adminstrator's talk page - hugely violative of wikipedia rules…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=51982541&oldid=51977480 14:23, 7 May 2006]
====[[User:New England]]====
=====OWB blocks New England=====
At 18:06 2 July 2007, in his first block since he was entrusted with the tools, OWB blocked [[User:New England]], an editor with an otherwise clean record, for twenty-four hours; see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:New_England block log]. By 09:42 16 July, OWB had lengthened the block to one week:
*"Yesterday a disturbing situation arose on the nomination page for TomStar81 for admin. New England accused me of having nominated him, Tom, bec ause he nominated me for admin. This is provably false, Stillstudying nominated me…I blocked him for 24 hours, and lifted it after telling him I would block him again if he continued false statements.…I warned him that continued false statements would result in another blocking, and he made additional false statements last night on the RfA talk page. He stated I have no right to block him for making false statements - at some point, I do have to do just that, or give up any pretense of enforcing our policies!…I have blocked him for one week for making false accusations…I hope you will support me, and make a stand for our policies on false accusations and wikipedia assume good faith which he has grossly violated. I cannot stay on wikipedia if users are allowed to simply lie about us, repeatedly, without any consequences!…I simply cannot stand by and let this person continue to lie about me. At some point, there has to be some accountability for this kind of slander. I felt I had to take a stand and do something about it. If I am wrong, the block should be lifted, and I will leave wikipedia. I cannot stay and have false statements made about me repeatedly. It is simply wrong, and against our basic policies of not allowing personal attacks."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=144972008 10:17, 16 July 2007]<br>
See [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive271#Block on New England]] for the rest of this discussion.
=====SS backs OWB bad block=====
*"I hope you back his block, what are rules for if no one enforces them?"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deskana&diff=144978415&oldid=144970904 11:19, 16 July 2007]
*"The only fault I find with the bear is that he waited so long to act to stop the endless lying."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:New_England&diff=144980765&oldid=144979824 11:40, 16 July 2007]
*"I think oldwindybear's only fault was waiting so long to act!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980813 11:46, 16 July 2007]
*"Bear, I am gone. They are going to overturn your block of New England, and under the circumstances, I won't stay on wikipedia, and I urge you to come with me."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=144983766 12:06, 16 July 2007]
*"What use are the wikipedia rules on personal attacks if you won't enforce them?'[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144985201 12:27, 16 July 2007]
*"I can't say I blame the bear for blocking him…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145010625 15:04, 16 July 2007]<br>
=====SS accuses New England of deliberately lying about OWB=====
*"The lies against him are contemptable…Are we free just to make up things on people?"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deskana&diff=144978415&oldid=144970904 11:19, 16 July 2007]
*"He is a pathological liar…Instead of shutting this liar down, he was allowed to basically slander the bear throughout wikipedia. He is a liar…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=144978745 11:21, 16 July 2007]
*"…does it bother anyone that open lying went on, and no one seems concerned about the open attacks on a great editor, and new admin, when anyone who read the record knew it was a lie?"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980082 11:35, 16 July 2007]
*"The real issue, that a user lied openly…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=144980504 11:38, 16 July 2007]
*"…this user was allowed to repeatedly lie…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:New_England&diff=144980765&oldid=144979824 11:40, 16 July 2007]
*"…New England deliberately lied and kept lying…he deserves better than to be lied about, over and over."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980813 11:46, 16 July 2007]
*"…lied about him, I am leaving wikipedia. I cannot and will not stay in a place that endorses the kinds of lying involved in this."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144981362 11:53, 16 July 2007]
*"…he lied, over and over…the guy knew he was lying…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=144983766 12:06, 16 July 2007]
*"…you are dead wrong to support open lying, and I am leaving wikipedia - who wants to stay in a place, and work for free, when people support open lying?"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144983888 12:14, 16 July 2007]
*"The guy was making attack after attack on him, which were false? Do you care at all about the truth?" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144984724 12:16, 16 July 2007]
*"…your insinuations run rampant… kept repeating the same lies…repeated the same old false accusations…you knew it was false…I find it incredible that you are protected while making slander after slander, despite knowing it is false."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145009186 14:56, 16 July 2007]
=====SS suggests lifetime ban=====
*"I am filing for mediation on this, and '''asking he be banned'''…Hopefully the other admins will block this clown, and '''get him off wikipedia!'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=144978745 11:21, 16 July 2007]
*"The bear's only fault is he tries to be too reasonable. '''I think this person should be blocked for life.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:New_England&diff=144979611&oldid=144975383 11:30, 16 July 2007]
===Disruption of [[WP:ANI]]===
*[[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive271#Block on New England]]
*[[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive274#User:Stillstudying]]
==Evidence that SS/FWS is OWB==
===Edit times never overlap, consistent with CU result and work/home or school/home scenario===
*As shown in [[/Combined contribution timeline]]
====Typical editing patterns====
A table shown in [[/Combined contribution timeline]] shows all contributions from OWB, SS, and FWS from 4-26-06 to 7-20-07. The edits are listed in order, with edit time (EDT/EST), and page/edit summary.
For much of their editing history since April 2006, OWB has edited nearly daily (with occasional breaks of a few days, obviously). On weekends, OWB’s schedule varied, with edits all over the day. On weekdays, OWB often edited for an hour or so early in the morning, usually stopping around 7:30 local time, followed by a session in the afternoon/evening, starting as early as 14:00, but more commonly around 16:00 local time.
SS only edited during weekdays (except as noted below, a telling exception). Their earliest typical weekday edits are around 08:30 local time, more commonly clustered around noon, and their latest are usually around 13:00 local time, and almost always before 14:00.
There is always a minimum 45 minute gap between when one stops and the other starts. The gap is often longer, however.
====Analysis of instances when OWB edited outside of “normal” weekday hours====
* Friday Aug 25, 2006: OWB edited all day, starting at 08:23 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=71795828], no edits by SS that day.
* Friday Oct 27, 2006: OWB made one edit at 12:07 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rjensen&diff=prev&oldid=84067823], no edits by SS that day.
* Tuesday Feb 6, 2007: OWB made one at 11:31 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jonashart&diff=prev&oldid=106078369], no edits by SS that day.
* Wednesday Feb 14, 2007: OWB made three edits, starting at 11:16 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=108097812], no edits by SS that day.
* Thursday March 22, 2007: OWB started editing early, at 13:34 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=117074629], FWS edited 72 minutes previously [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=117058510], (both editing same article, [[Charles Martel]])
* Friday March 23, 2007: OWB started editing early, at 12:42 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=117315151], SS/FWS edited outside of normal window, 07:45-08:41 local time (last edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Wallace_Rich&diff=prev&oldid=117269877 here]), (FWS/OWB both editing same article, Charles Martel, SS dealing with Pocklington Dan sock puppetry case).
* Friday June 15, 2007: OWB started editing early, at 13:06 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Great_Raid_of_1840&diff=prev&oldid=138384425], SS edited outside of normal window, 07:27-10:55 local time (last edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138360458 here]), (both editing same article, [[Council House Fight]], during a dispute over accusations of a copyvio by OWB).
* Friday June 29, 2007, OWB made one edit at 11:43 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=141410789], SS edited outside normal window, 07:19-10:04 and 13:28-23:11 local time (edit at 10:04 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Films/Peer_review/The_Searchers_%28film%29&diff=prev&oldid=141393392 here]). (SS working on Searchers, OWB responding to SS on his talk page.)
====Analysis of instances when SS/FWS edited outside of “normal” weekday hours====
* Friday June 9, 2006: SS made three early edits, starting at 07:59 local time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Searchers_%28film%29&diff=prev&oldid=57689400]. No edits by OWB that day
*Monday October 30, 2006: SS made 6 edits between 15:26 and 15:41 local time, starting [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=prev&oldid=84686647 here]. No edits by OWB that day
* Tuesday November 14, 2006, SS made 3 edits between 14:13 and 15:35, starting [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thing_%28comics%29&diff=prev&oldid=87811428 here]. No edits by OWB that day.
* Friday March 23, 2007: see section above.
* Friday June 15, 2007: see section above.
* Friday June 29, 2007: see section above.
* Saturday and Sunday, June 30 – July 1, 2007: For the first and only time in their editing career, spanning 60 weeks, SS edits over a weekend (starting [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=141523337 here]). For one of only six weekends in this 60-week span, OWB does not edit this weekend.
====Analysis of editing pattern on July 17, 2007====
Note that this is the day that Deskana accused OWB of sockpuppetry at 08:24 DC time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=145209512&oldid=145201572 12:24 UTC]), and Barneca followed at 10:10 DC time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145224641 14:14 UTC]).
* OWB makes 4 edits during “typical” period, 05:41-06:00 local time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145191005 09:41]- [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=145192892 10:00 UTC]).
* 79 minutes later SS makes 25 edits, starting much earlier than “normal”, 07:19-11:40 local time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145201300 11:19] – [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145240069 15:40 UTC]).
* 44 minutes later OWB makes 9 edits, starting much earlier than “normal”, 12:24-13:19 local time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145247511 16:24] – [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145257707 17:19 UTC]).
* 72 minutes later SS makes 4 edits, much later in the day than “normal”, 14:31-14:37 local time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145270827 18:31] – [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145271942 18:37 UTC]). SS never edits after this.
* 69 minutes later, OWB begins editing again, at 15:46 local time ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145284940 19:46 UTC]).
===Significant overlap in article interests===
Contrary to OWB's assertions (one of which is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145316799 here]), OWB and SS/FWS mutually edited quite a few very diverse articles, showing similarity of interests unlikely to occur in two separate people:
For articles with large quantities of edits, see:
*[http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=Oldwindybear&site=en.wikipedia.org Oldwindybear's "wannabe kate" log]
*[http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=Stillstudying&site=en.wikipedia.org Stillstudying's "wannabe kate" log]
====European history====
*[[Battle of Tours]]: Per wannabe kate, OWB: 423 edits to article, 222 to talk. SS: 9 article, 4 talk.
*[[Charles Martel]]: Per wannabe kate, OWB: 222 article, 93 talk. SS: 10 article, 3 talk.
*[[Macrohistorical battles tied to the existence of European civilisation]]: OWB: per wannabe kate, 63 article, 43 talk. SS: At least one edit to article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=110058392 13:12, February 22, 2007].
====Texas history====
*[[Council House Fight]]: Per wannabe kate: OWB: 28 article, 22 talk. SS: 11 talk.
====US crime====
*[[Bonnie and Clyde]]: Per wannabe kate, OWB: 406 article, 568 talk. SS: 31 article, 35 talk
*[[Frank Hamer]]: Per wannabe kate: OWB: 166 article, 131 talk. SS: 12 talk
*[[John Dillinger]]: OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Dillinger&diff=prev&oldid=37470312 04:42, January 31, 2006]. SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Dillinger&diff=prev&oldid=140746501 14:37, June 26, 2007]
====Books by [[Robert Heinlein]]====
*[[The Star Beast]]: OWB: (as [[User:68.50.125.89]]) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Star_Beast&diff=25715258&oldid=18033380 two edits to article] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Star_Beast&diff=25021221&oldid=24188799 one to talk page]. SS: per wannabe kate, 7 article, 3 talk.
*[[Podkayne of Mars]]: OWB: from [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Podkayne_of_Mars&limit=500&action=history article history], 2 edits as 68.50.125.89 June 18, 2005, 7 edits as Oldwindybear from Sept 3, 2005 to April 25, 2006. From [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Podkayne_of_Mars&limit=500&action=history talk page history], 6 edits from Sept 3, 2005 to April 26, 2006. SS: from article history link above, 3 edits from October 30, 2006 to June 19, 2007.
*[[Citizen of the Galaxy]]: OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=137795253&oldid=137688510 one edit to article], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&action=history six to talk]. SS: 4 edits [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=84688116&oldid=83706313 October 30, 2006] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=137688510&oldid=134024902 June 12, 2007], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&action=history four to talk].
====Buffy====
*[[Spike (Buffyverse)]]: OWB: Four edits to article on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spike_%28Buffyverse%29&diff=57945704&oldid=57826696 June 10, 2006]. SS: two edits to article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spike_%28Buffyverse%29&diff=94299133&oldid=94117623 15:52, December 14, 2006] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spike_%28Buffyverse%29&diff=115309098&oldid=115255546 13:24, March 15, 2007].
====Clint Eastwood movies====
*[[Unforgiven]]: OWB: One edit to article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unforgiven&diff=58678154&oldid=58538074 00:31, June 15, 2006]. SS: per wannabe kate, 14 article.
===Slip-ups===
====First user talk page edits====
*OWB makes first edit to [[User talk:Stillstudying]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=51910411 00:55, 7 May 2006], catches his mistake and attempts a save: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=51910411 12:51, 8 May 2006]
*FWS's first edit to [[User talk:Finishedwithschool]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=prev&oldid=111137406 19:31, 26 February 2007]<br>
And we know that Finishedwithschool is Stillstudying.
====SS changes OWB signature to his own====
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55057304 12:32, 25 May 2006]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=55060813 13:07, 25 May 2006]<br>
This was done manually, not with four tildes.
===Textual idiosyncrasies===
Both OWB and SS have offered the defense that they write in a different style ("I/oldwindybear(…)never said anything in [few words]"):
*OWB:
**"Further, a study of the language shows definite differences - I '''never said anything in''' a couple of sentences in my life."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=51966906 11:22, 7 May 2006]
**See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145248263 16:28, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145327430 23:40, 17 July 2007]
*SS:
**"I myself could not understand how anyone could possibly believe I was oldwindybear, who, no offense, because I like his work, '''never said anything in''' less than forty-two paragraphs, while my edits are brief and to the point. " [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=53341806 16:52, 15 May 2006]<br>
But is it true that OWB and SS write in different styles? Because OWB and SS are the same writer, and the corpus is substantial, it is easy to show that it's not.
====Addresses others by wikilinked username or full signature====
'''NOTE: there are countless other examples of this yet to be added.'''
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34217317 07:18, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34367064 14:13, 8 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34525350 20:15, 9 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34572573 03:37, 10 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34624388 16:58, 10 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34633533 17:37, 10 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34636095 18:04, 10 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User_conduct&diff=prev&oldid=35329756 23:45, 15 January 2006](as Mac1953)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=40999988&oldid=40968446 11:13, 24 February 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=42292572&oldid=42287450 04:14, 5 March 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=44550904&oldid=44548268 20:53, 19 March 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=48586626 17:17, 15 April 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=51146537&oldid=51138613 02:22, 2 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=53483395 10:23, 16 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=prev&oldid=137797062 00:54, 13 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=141410789&oldid=141375729 15:43, 29 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=143476052 00:58, 12 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145071267 20:13, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145251430 16:46, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145504421 19:45, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145505034 19:47, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145505466 19:49, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Night_of_the_Long_Knives&diff=prev&oldid=145543467 23:07, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wandalstouring&diff=prev&oldid=145545316 23:18, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=145636199 09:43, 19 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145750289 20:11, 19 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=145750716 20:13, 19 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=145788532 23:28, 19 July 2007]<br>
:Though earlier on this was often done defectively, the attempt is still visible.
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=53325242 15:09, 15 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55946412 15:47, 30 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=92762927 19:59, 7 December 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110392692&oldid=11038275719:09, 23 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Moon_Is_a_Harsh_Mistress&diff=prev&oldid=131332488 17:13, 16 May 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Films/Peer_review/The_Searchers_%28film%29&diff=141529054&oldid=141525741 02:56, 30 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=141614293 15:30, 30 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=141665859 20:55, 30 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=142040725 17:37, 2 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=143302258 11:15, 9 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=143776035&oldid=143764877 18:02, 10 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144146023 11:10, 12 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144174579 13:16, 12 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144176400 13:20, 12 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144186328 14:32, 12 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:New_England&diff=144979611&oldid=144975383 11:30, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980082 11:35, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980813 11:46, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144983888 12:14, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144985201 12:27, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=145034907 17:50, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145201300 11:19, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145201860 11:24, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145223655 14:04, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145229098 14:38, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Charlie_Huggard/vandalize&diff=prev&oldid=53325753 15:13, 15 May 2006]
*FWS:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=144428774 16:46, 13 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:A_History_of_Violence_%28film%29&diff=prev&oldid=144429104 16:48, 13 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=prev&oldid=144429689 16:51, 13 July 2007]
====Avoids very common contractions====
Both OWB and SS totally or near totally avoid the common contractions "I'm"/"you're"/"he's"/"she's"/""we're"/"you're"/"they're", even "it's" (excepting [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Proabivouac/Oldwindybear%26Stillstudying#.22it.27s.22_.5Bsic..5D the error] shown below.) Similarly, contractions of the future with "_ will" to "_'ll" For obvious reasons, no diffs can be provided, but over dozens of pages of downloaded samples, no counterexamples have been found, while the full phrases appear liberally.
====Shared phrases====
====="I am sorry, but…"=====
*OWB:<br>
**'''I am sorry''' you feel that people writing to support my efforts, and object to Pig's, need to be eliminated. No offense, '''but'''…'''I am sorry, but''' you were wrong to take these issues off the page."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34624388 16:58, 10 January 2006]<br>
**"'''I am sorry, but''' that is plain crazy…'''I am sorry, but''' you pretty much concede there is NO evidence…'''I am sorry, but''' that is really stretching it."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145327430 23:40, 17 July 2007]<br>
:See also:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34370681 15:03, 8 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34502804 15:35, 9 January 2006] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34633533 17:37, 10 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=109956738&oldid=109949848 01:12, 22 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145250958 16:43, 17 July 2007]
*SS:<br>
**"…'''I am sorry, but''' while you certainly edited language, nothing you changed was a direct copy…'''I am sorry, but''' I don't feel you listed sentences which were exact copies…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007]
**"…'''I am sorry''' you feel this is absurd or ridiculous, '''but''' blame me for this, the bear is evidently at work and unable to say a word…'''I am sorry''' you feel that is ridiculous, '''but''' frankly, i feel you have gone way over the line…."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007]<br>
:See also:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50445137 16:52, 27 April 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55060599 13:01, 25 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=prev&oldid=131765456 12:56, 18 May 2007]
====="[bad thing], period."=====
*OWB:
**"That is '''wrong, period.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34634880 17:48, 10 January 2006]
**"SS's behavior was '''terrible''', and I do not endorse it, '''period.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145789885 23:37, 19 July 2007]
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=44550904&oldid=44548268 20:53, 19 March 2006](x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=51146537&oldid=51138613 02:22, 2 May 2006]
*SS:
**"These are '''bad''' edits, '''period.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138354431 14:18, 15 June 2007]<br>
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51539258 16:02, 4 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55060599 13:01, 25 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55069480 14:13, 25 May 2006] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144983888 12:14, 16 July 2007]
====="dead right/wrong"=====
*OWB:
**"Youare '''dead right''' about Tom…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145410418 10:14, 18 July 2007]
**"Sorry Kate, you were '''dead wrong''' on this."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34630209 17:23, 10 January 2006 ]
*SS:
**"I think oldwindybear is '''dead right…'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=53341806 16:52, 15 May 2006]
**"…I think you are '''dead wrong''' to support open lying…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144983888 12:14, 16 July 2007]
====="[editor] is absolutely correct"=====
*OWB:
**"'''Deskana,''' a crat, aware of this, and he advised me to post the block, and the reasons for it, so they cuold be reviewed. I believe '''he is absolutely correct.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=144972008 10:17, 16 July 2007]
**"'''[[User:Kurykh|<font color="#0000C0" face="cursive">Kurykh</font>]]''' said, and '''he is absolutely correct'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145513383 20:26, 18 July 2007]
*SS:
**"'''[[User:Doctor France|Doctor France]] is absolutely correct.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=110058392 13:12, 22 February 2007]
=====*"There are/is [sic.] only so many ways… [to reword sourced material]"=====
*OWB:
**"'''There are only so many ways''' to write an article, stating teh basic facts…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34216134 07:01, 7 January 2006]
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138326889 10:38, 15 June 2007]
*SS:
**"Bear is right that when dealing with historical data, '''there is only so many ways''' you can cite it." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007]
====="I frankly/frankly I…[bad thing]…I don't know/think…and frankly, (I) don't want"=====
*OWB:
**"'''I frankly''' hope not to have any interaction with the person posting as [[User:Stillstudying]]/[[User:Finishedwithschool]] again…'''I don't know''' them, '''and frankly,''' '''don't want''' to."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145763331 21:14, 19 July 2007]
*SS:
**"'''frankly. I''' thought you were a poor choice for assistant military coordinator because of exactly this type of controversy…'''I don't think''' you want that, '''and frankly,''' I '''don't want''' it for you or anyone else who is serious about wikipedia."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Wallace_Rich&diff=117268226&oldid=116942262 12:29, 23 March 2007]
====="You are a good person…(but) Pig/New England [is constantly] lying"=====
*OWB:
:"…'''you are a good person''' who is trying to be fair. '''But''' I am not letting '''Pig''' post '''constant lying''' and negative comments about me…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34495151 13:40, 9 January 2006]
*SS:
:"'''You are a good person'''…I think that the real issue is that '''New England''' deliberately '''lied and kept lying'''…'''You are a good person''', '''but''' wrong in this instance."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980813 11:46, 16 July 2007]
====="wholesale [deletions] (without any discussion)"=====
*OWB:
**"…'''delete facts wholesale'''…when you '''rewrite articles wholesale'''…your '''wholesale deletions''',…It does not mean you simply '''delete facts wholesale'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=44550904&oldid=44548268 20:53, 19 March 2006]
**"You came here twice, and made '''wholesale deletions'''…'''without any discussion'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=51146537&oldid=51138613 02:22, 2 May 2006]
*SS:
**"…The issue is the right of anyone to unilaterally '''delete sections of an article wholesale''', '''without any discussion.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55060599 13:01, 25 May 2006]
**"instead you resorted to '''wholesale editing'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007]
====="abrogates/destroys all vestige of"=====
*OWB:
**"This is a sad travety that totally '''abrogates all vestige of''' wikipedia assume good faith.old windy bear 02:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)" (diff unavailable from [[User:Barneca/Draft SSP report|deleted page]])
*SS:
**"It '''destroys all vestige of''' consensus."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=142870146 11:24, 6 July 2007]<br>
While not ungrammatical, this is [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22all+vestige+of%22&btnG=Search far less common] than [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22all+vestige+of%22&btnG=Search "all vestiges of"] or [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22any+vestige+of%22&btnG=Search "any vestige of"]; see also [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22all+vestige+of%22+Wikipedia&btnG=Search "all vestige of" + Wikipedia].
====="hugely/deeply/highly violative of wikipedia rules/policy"=====
*OWB:
**"…'''- hugely violative of wikipedia rules -'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=51982541&oldid=51977480 14:23, 7 May 2006]
**"It would be '''deeply violative of wikipedia rules'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Peer_review/Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=50959045 23:14, 30 April 2006]
*SS:
**"This is '''highly violative of wikipedia policy'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation&diff=prev&oldid=51694345 15:59, 5 May 2006]<br>
The rarity of this phrase is shown by Googling [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22violative+of+wikipedia%22&btnG=Search "violative of wikipedia."]
====="wikipedia rules" (i.e. policies)=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=51982541&oldid=51977480 14:23, 7 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Peer_review/Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=50959045 23:14, 30 April 2006]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50415003 12:55, 27 April 2006 (first edit)][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51539258 16:02, 4 May 2006](x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51710983 17:57, 5 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=prev&oldid=131765456 12:56, 18 May 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3rd_Battalion_6th_Marines&diff=prev&oldid=94046573 13:12, 13 December 2006]
*FWS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=111128733&oldid=111117533 18:52, 26 February 2007]
====="you must learn the rules/rules…it is time you learned"=====
*OWB:
**"But '''you must learn the rules''', and abide by them."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Wallace_Rich&diff=117268226&oldid=116942262 12:29, 23 March 2007]
*SS:
**"You simply do not do that under wikipedia '''rules''', and '''it is time you learned it.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51710983 17:57, 5 May 2006]
====="I find/think [something] sad"=====
*OWB:
**"…which I find sad."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=22657138 23:59, 5 September 2005]
**"I find you sad…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34230727 11:23, 7 January 2006]
**"This is sad."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145327430 23:40, 17 July 2007]
*SS:
**"…I find that really sad.… I think it is sad!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=144980504 11:38, 16 July 2007]
====="My friend, …"=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138390257 17:38, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145789672 23:36, 19 July 2007]
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=53483395 10:23, 16 May 2006]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Charlie_Huggard/vandalize&diff=prev&oldid=53325629 15:12, 15 May 2006]
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=141614293 15:30, 30 June 2007]
====="I am myself and no other/I am not anyone but myself/I am no one but me"=====
*OWB:
**"…I am myself, and no other."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145791683 23:48, 19 July 2007]
**"…I am not anyone but myself."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=146962164&oldid=146951043 10:00 25 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Oldwindybear&diff=146962245&oldid=144838848 10:01, 25 July 2007]
*SS:
**"I am no one but me."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145270827 18:31, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145237472 15:26, 17 July 2007]
====Overused words====
====="simply"=====
*OWB:
**"I cannot stay on wikipedia if users are allowed to '''simply''' lie about us, repeatedly, without any consequences! I spend at least 20 hours a week working on articles, and I try to get along with everyone, but I '''simply''' cannot stand by and let this person continue to lie about me…It is '''simply''' wrong, and against our basic policies of not allowing personal attacks."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=144972008 10:17, 16 July 2007]
**See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34231282 11:35, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=44550904&oldid=44548268 20:53, 19 March 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=48582012 16:35, 15 April 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=144972008 10:17, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=145506395&oldid=145505980 19:52, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Night_of_the_Long_Knives&diff=prev&oldid=145543467 23:07, 18 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145789672 23:36, 19 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145791683 23:48, 19 July 2007]
*SS:
**"But please cease '''simply''' reverting my edits without discussion in complete violation of wikipedia policy. I have no idea why you reverted - your failure to discuss the reversions leave me wondering whether you did so because you consider them original research, or whatever. So please stop, and discuss reverting before '''simply''' doing so. Unless you discuss your reversion, I am '''simply''' reverting back."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Moon_Is_a_Harsh_Mistress&diff=prev&oldid=131332488 17:13, 16 May 2007]
**See also:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50415003 12:55, 27 April 2006 (first edit)][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51539258 16:02, 4 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51672033 12:56, 5 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation&diff=prev&oldid=51698700 16:28, 5 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51710983 17:57, 5 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=52133623 12:45, 8 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=52481895&oldid=52382503 13:06, 10 May 2006](x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55060599 13:01, 25 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55946412 15:47, 30 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=110058017 13:10, 22 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Wallace_Rich&diff=117268226&oldid=116942262 12:29, 23 March 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138360254 14:54, 15 June 2007]
====="frankly"=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145763331 21:14, 19 July 2007](x2),[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=22660028 00:39, 6 September 2005][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=33642688 21:51, 2 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34224329 09:19, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34633533 17:37, 10 January 2006] (also "I am sorry, but")[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=51146537&oldid=51138613 02:22, 2 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mongol_military_tactics_and_organization&diff=prev&oldid=130620029 21:09, 13 May 2007] (x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145789672 23:36, 19 July 2007] (also "simply")
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Wallace_Rich&diff=117268226&oldid=116942262 12:29, 23 March 2007] (x2, also "simply")[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50415003 12:55, 27 April 2006 (first edit)] (also "simply")[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=52481895&oldid=52382503 13:06, 10 May 2006] (also "simply" x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=53325242 15:09, 15 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Films/Peer_review/The_Searchers_%28film%29&diff=141529054&oldid=141525741 02:56, 30 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007](also "I am sorry…but" x2)
====="certainly"=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145248263 16:28, 17 July 2007](x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145251430 16:46, 17 July 2007](x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=33636259 21:00, 2 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34256601 17:16, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=51146537&oldid=51138613 02:22, 2 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mongol_military_tactics_and_organization&diff=prev&oldid=130620029 21:09, 13 May 2007](also "frankly"x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=prev&oldid=136146350 20:53, 5 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=prev&oldid=137794628 00:38, 13 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Butseriouslyfolks&diff=prev&oldid=138323365 10:06, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=140599245 20:43, 25 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145504421 19:45, 18 July 2007]
*SS:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007](x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110361969&oldid=110318338 16:56, 23 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=110392692&oldid=110382757 19:09, 23 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138354431 14:18, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145010625 15:04, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145016519 15:37, 16 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=145223655&oldid=145222196 14:04, 17 July 2007]
====="feel" (i.e. think/believe)=====
*OWB:
**"If the guy '''feels''' I quoted him -- and I obviously '''feel''' i did not…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34256077 17:11, 7 January 2006]<br>
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=22660028 00:39, 6 September 2005] (also "frankly")[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:HLS_BLAIR&diff=prev&oldid=32908584 20:22, 27 December 2005] (as HLSB)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34256601 17:16, 7 January 2006] (also "certainly")[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/TomStar81&diff=next&oldid=144587474 11:43, 14 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=138326889 10:38, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=142317152 20:58, 3 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145247511 16:24, 17 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145251430 16:46, 17 July 2007]
*SS:
**":…I…don't '''feel''' that there was a copyright violation…I '''feel''' he complied with the law…Because he was the author, I '''feel''' he should do any additions or reversions, and I will back him if he does in restoring information I '''feel''' should not have been deleted…I simply '''feel''' you are wrong…"this."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138360254 14:54, 15 June 2007] (also "simply)"
**•"…I am sorry you '''feel''' this is absurd or ridiculous… I am sorry you '''feel''' that is ridiculous, but frankly, i '''feel'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007] (also "I am sorry…but", "frankly")<br>
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=133171467 13:53, 24 May 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=137685078 14:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007] (x2)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Films/Peer_review/The_Searchers_%28film%29&diff=141529054&oldid=141525741 02:56, 30 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145046369 18:15, 16 July 2007]
====="note" (i.e. observe)=====
*OWB:
**"…as somone else '''noted''', I am removing the accusation from my user page pending check/user - I do '''note'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=51982541&oldid=51977480 14:23, 7 May 2006]<br>
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34216134 07:01, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=137744953 20:10, 12 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Butseriouslyfolks&diff=prev&oldid=138323365 10:06, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145247511 16:24, 17 July 2007]
*SS:
**"…would '''note''' his concern, and ask for clarification, which I would have given! But as you '''note'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=145223655&oldid=145222196 14:04, 17 July 2007]<br>
:See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=52485047&oldid=52482060 13:34, 10 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55946412 15:47, 30 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=92762927 19:59, 7 December 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3rd_Battalion_6th_Marines&diff=prev&oldid=94046573 13:12, 13 December 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=141614293 15:30, 30 June 2007](x2)
====Shared spelling errors====
As google statistics change daily, they may be slightly different when you examine them than when they were tallied.
====="it's" [sic.]=====
This contraction is never used for "it is", but for the possessive "its":
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=33871167 18:45, 4 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34216134 07:01, 7 January 2006 (x2)] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34230727 11:23, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=42292572&oldid=42287450 04:14, 5 March 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=145061257 20:42, 16 July 2007]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51539258 16:02, 4 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3rd_Battalion_6th_Marines&diff=prev&oldid=94046573 13:12, 13 December 2006]
No examples of correct usage were found in the downloaded corpus.
====="plagerize/plagerism" [sic.]=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34216134 07:01, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34254176 16:52, 7 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34504523 15:48, 9 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138390257 17:38, 15 June 2007]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=55946412 15:47, 30 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007]<br>
No examples of correct usage were found in the downloaded corpus. See [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=plagerize&btnG=Search plagerize: 50,000] vs. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=plagiarize&btnG=Search plagiarize: 921,000] (approx. 1:18), [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=plagerism&btnG=Search plagerism: 202,000] vs.[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=plagiarism&btnG=Search plagiarism: 11,600,000] (approx. 1:57)
====="challange/challanging" [sic.]=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SaltyPig&diff=34375161&oldid=34369582 16:02, 8 January 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=35331299&oldid=35281960 23:59, 15 January 2006](as Mac1953)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=40959996 03:16, 24 February 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=48582012 16:35, 15 April 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Tours&diff=prev&oldid=48602752 19:34, 15 April 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Peer_review/Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=50958182 23:08, 30 April 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=51101620 20:59, 1 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=62240876 20:02, 5 July 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=62954105 23:18, 9 July 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Night_of_the_Long_Knives&diff=prev&oldid=145543467 23:07, 18 July 2007]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=62362147 13:00, 6 July 2006]
No examples of correct usage were found in the downloaded corpus. See [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=challange&btnG=Google+Search challange: 2,440,000] vs. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=challenge&btnG=Search challenge: 286,000,000] (approx. 1:117), [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=challanging&btnG=Search challanging: 163,000] vs. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=challenging&btnG=Search challlenging: 87,000,000] (approx. 1:534).
====="apparant/apparantly" [sic.]=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=53483395 10:23, 16 May 2006]
*SS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51384474 16:45, 3 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=prev&oldid=54528595 14:14, 22 May 2006] <br>
No examples of correct usage were found in the downloaded corpus. See [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=apparantly&btnG=Search apparantly: 1,300,000] vs. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=apparently&btnG=Search apparently: 127,000,000] (approx. 1:98)
====="resembalance" [sic.]=====
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=53483395 10:23, 16 May 2006]
*FWS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Searchers_%28film%29&diff=prev&oldid=141430690 17:36, 29 June 2007]<br>
No examples of correct usage were found in the downloaded corpus. See [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=resembalance&btnG=Search resembalance: 932] vs.[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=resemblance&btnG=Search resemblance: 13,600,000](approx. 1:14,592)
=====Typographical metathesis=====
*OWB:
**"…teh…ashmaed…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34223132 08:56, 7 January 2006]
**"…adn…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34224112 09:15, 7 January 2006]
**"…otu…teh…husbadn…checkgin…teh…teh…oru…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34231282 11:35, 7 January 2006]
**"…nothihgn…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34249488 16:03, 7 January 2006]
**"…becuase…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34264949 18:39, 7 January 2006]
**"…failign…contrbiute…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34281907 21:18, 7 January 2006]
**"…saem…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=34504523 15:48, 9 January 2006]
**"…oen…teh…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34624388 16:58, 10 January 2006]
**"…adn…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=34630209 17:23, 10 January 2006]
**"…mroe…'[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear/archive1&diff=prev&oldid=53483395 10:23, 16 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144777460 14:09, 15 July 2007]
**"…Blcok…cuold…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=144972008 10:17, 16 July 2007]
**"…teh…teh…adn…htem…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145071267 20:13, 16 July 2007]
**"…owrk…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=145061257 20:42, 16 July 2007]
**"…otehr…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145248263 16:28, 17 July 2007]
**"…konw…" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145251430 16:46, 17 July 2007]
**"…adn…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145410418 10:14, 18 July 2007]
**"…hpoe…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=145756733 20:40, 19 July 2007]
*SS:
**"…nomianted…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:New_England&diff=144979611&oldid=144975383 11:30, 16 July 2007]
**"…messgaes…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007]
===SS persona===
====Speaks for "the bear"====
From his very third edit, Stillstudying seems to know what Oldwindybear ("the bear") is thinking, feeling, doing and planning, and why:
*"Oldwindybear had toned down those direct quotes to avoid an article that might be interpreted as being pro B & C, which I do not gather he is."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51384474 16:45, 3 May 2006]
*"…while oldwindybear may not resent this, I do…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51696283 16:12, 5 May 2006]
*"Frankly, oldwindybear appears to love this site…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=53325242 15:09, 15 May 2006][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Charlie_Huggard/vandalize&diff=prev&oldid=53325629 15:12, 15 May 2006]
*"Hey Bear…You were trying to tone down the language…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=62362147 13:00, 6 July 2006]
*"I ascertain from Bear's posting that he felt'''…'''Bear must have agreed…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007]
*"He won't defend himself further, for reasons I don't care to second guess."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144980813 11:46, 16 July 2007]
*"…my interaction with him over a year tells me he would probably apologize if he was online to do so. I will certainly apologize…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145016519 15:37, 16 July 2007]
*"Ha! I bet he would. he tends to be more diplomatic than myself, so I bet he would."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=145019403 16:28, 16 July 2007]
*"…blame me for this, the bear is evidently at work and unable to say a word...I cannot speak for the bear, but messgaes on my talk page indicate he is not happy with me for pursuing this, so I would assume he would do most anything to end this…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007]
*"I doubt he will, and would urge him not to…and the tone was he would accept Deskana's ruling…I expect him to take a more reasoned tack, which is just his way, I would be genuinely surprised if he yielded an adminship which got not one opposing vote because of this."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145034780 17:18, 16 July 2007]
*"…I see why the bear likes you."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145204859 11:48, 17 July 2007]
====Adulation of "the bear"====
Stillstudying displays an unusual and fanatical admiration and adulation of "the bear::"
*"You would think people would learn - beating you on the quote game is not going to happen."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=6236214 13:00, 6 July 2006]
*"…the best editor on wikipedia…Your only fault is you are too soft hearted!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=144978745 11:21, 16 July 2007]
*"No wonder I nominated the bear!…The bear's only fault is he tries to be too reasonable."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:New_England&diff=144979611&oldid=144975383 11:30, 16 July 2007]
*"…they don't care that you spend an incredible amount of time working on this encyclopedia."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=144983766 12:06, 16 July 2007]
*"…people like…the bear are why I am pleased to be a part of this project."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=145207417 12:08, 17 July 2007]
===="Bear is right"====
*"Oldwindybear is right..." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50415003 12:55, 27 April 2006]
*"…oldwindybear is dead right…" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=53341806 16:52, 15 May 2006]
*"…and Bear is right…" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=138337699&oldid=138326484 12:16, 15 June 2007]
*"I have to agree with oldwindybear…" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138350613 13:52, 15 June 2007]
*"The Bear was right…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=144146023 11:10, 12 July 2007]
===Overcompensation===
====OWB overcompensation====
=====Self-nomination=====
*"And I understand his refusal to self nominate, I would not either, and that is not knocking those who self nominate, you just feel that when it is your time, someone will nominate you..."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/TomStar81&diff=next&oldid=144587474 11:43, 14 July 2007]
====="work with him and myself"=====
*"I urge you to work with him and myself…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=prev&oldid=137795523 00:44, 13 June 2007] must
*"I urge you to work with him, myself, and anyone else who is interested…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=prev&oldid=137797380 00:56, 13 June 2007]
=====Stages minor difference of opinion=====
*"you usually support me, lol!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Hamer&diff=prev&oldid=136146350 20:53, 5 June 2007]
=====Using different computers=====
*"I don't think anyone would seriously suggest someone would edit for over a year, 500 plus edits, and never use the same computer if it was the same person!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145410418 10:14, 18 July 2007]
====="SS imitated my signal greeting"=====
*"…though SS imitated my signal greeting, he did not get it right…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=145504421 19:45, 18 July 2007]
====SS overcompensation====
====="I am a new user"=====
*"I am a new user, who…until today, had not contributed or commented…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50415003 12:55, 27 April 2006]
*"I am a new user, so this is coming from a dispassionate person, who has not previously engaged in this argument."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mytwocents&diff=prev&oldid=50445137 16:52, 27 April 2006]
*"I must weigh in on this one, though I generally am a reader, rather than writer."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=prev&oldid=51518570 12:55, 4 May 2006]
=====First user page edits=====
*SS: "I am a student, in other words, one who is learning. Wikipedia is a great tool for that. Until recently, I have been more of an inactive reader. I have become more active, and intend to be more so, especially in political issues, and those of historical interest to me"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=51698259 16:25, 5 May 2006]
*FWS: "I had not previously created an account, but some of the issues I have observed ongoing decided me to create an account, so my voice could be heard, other than a mere internet number."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Finishedwithschool&diff=prev&oldid=111064248 12:36, 26 February 2007]<br>
Like Finishedwithschool, Stillstudying is a sock of someone else.
=====Signature slip-up=====
*"I did not write the above section, and don't know who changed it to show I wrote it, but the history shows oldwindybear wrote it."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bonnie_and_Clyde&diff=next&oldid=55060813 13:07, 25 May 2006]
=====First sock accusation=====
*"When I first arrived on wikipedia, I was accused of being oldwindybear. That was dismissed for no evidence. That was a year ago, and no one has made that idiotic claim since."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Wallace_Rich&diff=116762458&oldid=116647222 12:24, 21 March 2007]
=====Edit times=====
*"I was away for the weekend and missed all this."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deskana&diff=144978415&oldid=144970904 11:19, 16 July 2007] (SS is ''always'' away for the weekend).
====="I cannot speak for the bear/oldwindybear, [but…]"=====
*"I can not and will not speak for the Bear."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145009186 14:56, 16 July 2007]
*"I cannot speak for oldwindybear, but…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145016519 15:37, 16 July 2007]
*"I cannot speak for the bear, but…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145028599 16:46, 16 July 2007]
*"I cannot speak for the bear, but…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=145034780 17:18, 16 July 2007]
===FWS persona===
[[User:Finishedwithschool]] presents a two-dimensional persona, with many diffs denouncing "political correctness:"
*"'''Political correctness''' rules the day."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=111112628 17:39, 26 February 2007]
*"I hate '''political correctness'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Finishedwithschool&diff=prev&oldid=111116117 17:54, 26 February 2007]
*"…till he and his '''politically correct''' comrades inspired me to finally create an account and call their comments what they are."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Chalons&diff=prev&oldid=111117002 17:58, 26 February 2007]
*"Anyone with an intelligent point of view, which is not '''politically correct''', is welcome here to discuss it!"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=prev&oldid=111137406 19:31, 26 February 2007]
*"This is yet another example of '''political correctness''' running amok."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=112820821 15:24, 5 March 2007]
*"It is still pandering to the '''politically correct'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=113565012 13:20, 8 March 2007]
*"This is what I mean about '''politically correct.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charles_Martel&diff=prev&oldid=116840766 18:51, 21 March 2007]
*"Damn right, I am very '''politically incorrect.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finishedwithschool&diff=prev&oldid=141429301 17:28, 29 June 2007]
====History vs. political correctness====
This phrase may also be found, juxtaposed against "history," in the contributions of both OWB and SS/FWS:
*OWB:
**"…who do not seem as interested in the truth, or accurate '''history, but political correctness.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Oldwindybear&diff=32961616&oldid=32611332 05:15, 28 December 2005] (as HSLB)
*SS:
**"I became interested in Bonnie and Clyde, because of the movie, and edited because I felt it was a case of '''political correctness against history.'''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=52133623 12:45, 8 May 2006]
*FWS:
**"*"And the logic that he outlined was sound ''''history, not PC'''…"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macrohistorical_battles_tied_to_the_existence_of_European_civilisation&diff=prev&oldid=113061756 14:02, 6 March 2007]
====Calls his other username "Still"====
*FWS: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=prev&oldid=144428774 16:46, 13 July 2007]
*OWB: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=110047238&oldid=108081332 11:38, 22 February 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Citizen_of_the_Galaxy&diff=prev&oldid=137971821 19:52, 13 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Council_House_Fight&diff=prev&oldid=138390257 17:38, 15 June 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Oldwindybear&diff=prev&oldid=143797730 19:44, 10 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:A_History_of_Violence_%28film%29&diff=prev&oldid=144795252 14:14, 15 July 2007][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stillstudying&diff=next&oldid=145061257 20:42, 16 July 2007]<br>
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