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Session Start: Wed Aug 21 00:00:00 2013
Session Ident: #wikimedia-commons
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[00:17] <Fae> russavia: On the art installation; http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:FOP#Italy means FOP is not a clear rationale, though past cases like http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Tate_Britain_North_Gallery_Jaguar.jpg show that 'installations' of purely mass produced objects or those with mechanical or chemical transformations (such as rusting) may not have...
[00:17] <Fae> ...sufficient creativity to be copyrightable from the viewpoint of hosting on Commons.
[00:17] <Fae> So, it is a potential DR to discuss the case.
[00:21] <PierreSelim> after reading french article on Shanghai, I believe I have some useful picture for Commons :p
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[00:44] <russavia> when is the changeover to https being made?
[00:44] <russavia> cropbot doesn't seem to be working anymore either
[00:49] <Steinsplitter> russavia: cropbot is using http, this is the problem
[00:50] <Steinsplitter> /-( https://svn.toolserver.org/svnroot/luxo/cropbot/
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[00:54] <Steinsplitter> russavia: or his quoate is full, the last time his quota was full
[00:54] <russavia> steinsplitter -- can you follow up here -- http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Luxo#Cropbot.27s_stopped_working -- just in case, coz i know nothing about coding and stuff
[00:54] <russavia> he has a quota? we need to remove that quota
[00:55] <Steinsplitter> the last time i hav asked DaB.
[00:55] <Steinsplitter> russavia: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rotatebot
[00:55] <Steinsplitter> and rotatebot is broken
[00:56] <russavia> again, since 19 august
[00:56] <Steinsplitter> i suggest to search a new bot operator
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Session Close: Wed Aug 21 01:12:34 2013
Session Start: Wed Aug 21 01:12:34 2013
Session Ident: #wikimedia-commons
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[01:12] * Topic is 'Wikimedia Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org | Status: See http://status.wikimedia.org | https://twitter.com/wikicommons | For URGENT admin help, say "!admin@commons + your request" | Admin channel: #wikimedia-commons-admin | Vandalism: #cvn-commons and #cvn-commons-uploads | Commons-l: http://bit.ly/commonsMonth'
[01:12] * Set by Trijnstel!~chatzilla@wikipedia/Trijnstel on Fri Jul 05 13:53:41
[01:12] -wolfe.freenode.net:#wikimedia-commons- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
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[01:13] #wikimedia-commons url is https://commons.wikimedia.org
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[02:30] <Steinsplitter> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MisterGugaruz
[02:30] <Steinsplitter> ....
[02:33] <Fae_look_alike> Yes, well, SPAs will be discounted I guess, along with rather pointless IP contributions...
[02:33] <russavia> it's a bar.wp editor -- you know the project where I was blocked from 3 projects by a single admin
[02:34] <russavia> 3 projects instanteously
[02:34] <russavia> [[:bar:Wikipediocracy]]
[02:34] <AsimovBot> [7] https://bar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipediocracy
[02:35] <Steinsplitter> *LOL*
[02:35] <russavia> now why is bar.wp the only project it is on after en.wp -- hell, even pl.wp deleted it
[02:35] <Fae_look_alike> The SUL check on the toolserver being out of action makes it hard to check on these things.
[02:35] <Steinsplitter> jepp /-(
[02:36] <russavia> Bavarian Wikipedia is a law until itself, and they hate everyone there
[02:36] <russavia> much like the real Bavaria :)
[02:37] <Steinsplitter> Wikipediocracy is not relevant, out of SCOPE.
[02:37] <Fae_look_alike> I saw the notice about moving to https: - I voted against it. I'm still unsure there was a *clear* case of why this benefits all users; as opposed to it remaining opt-in. It's going to screw up quite a few bots I think...
[02:37] <Steinsplitter> *lol* Trllscope
[02:37] <Steinsplitter> russavia: later i try to speak wit Reedy
[02:37] <Steinsplitter> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Reedy_RotateBot
[02:38] <Steinsplitter> starting this bot^^ :P
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[02:38] <Fae_look_alike> ... there are precious few bot maintainers that will sweep up and those that are not being actively maintained will all stop overnight. Sigh.
[02:38] <Steinsplitter> jwpp
[02:41] <Steinsplitter> Fae_look_alike: FaeBot can rotate Pictures? mhm... the php script is strange /-(
[02:41] <Steinsplitter> *luxos
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[02:42] <Fae_look_alike> No, Faebot does not do that. I never sorted out a lossless transformation and I don't spend time on stuff that other bots are doing okay on.
[02:42] <Steinsplitter> :)
[02:44] <russavia> well anything we can do to get these bots working asap, either old or new, can only be a good thing
[02:45] <Steinsplitter> or Reedy start the User:Reedy_RotateBot :)
[02:47] <Fae_look_alike> Oh, plus Faebot was approved for UK and GLAM work rather than wider and more general stuff - so I'm a bit cautious about larger projects going to Faebot without consensus. Hence the creation of Noaabot for that project and I may consider others if they arise out of firm need. Admittedly I'm working on matching tiffs with jpgs for the NARA project, but that's more of a one off odd-job rather...
[02:47] <Fae_look_alike> ...than a repeatable or long term bot-job in my view. Russavia: Yes, maybe. I'm focused on Python and pywikipediabot stuff, so bots in other systems would not be my bag. If there is a big bot breakdown, we probably should start a list and discussion on the VP to attract helpers.
[02:48] <russavia> Fae, slap
[02:48] <Steinsplitter> :D
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[02:49] <russavia> fae, this is BY-NC -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/foreignoffice -- but we have {{FCO}} -- is there some way you can import these photos to commons? I'll do the hard yards on them
[02:49] <AsimovBot> [8] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:FCO
[02:52] <russavia> i have a shitload of non en.wp articles a lot of them could be used on
[02:52] <Fae_look_alike> Not right now. If I get flickrripper going on my laptop I could probably do it easily, but I spent 15mins fiddling with it last night and probably need to spend a couple of frustrating hours getting the install working. If more urgent stuff does not displace it, I could get around to it - the value would be not just the FCO but all the other NC and restricted uploads (such as Sasha's...
[02:52] <Fae_look_alike> ...artistic photos) that might be regular imports. So a week or two unless someone else cracks on with it.
[02:53] <Fae_look_alike> I'll clip this into my backlog...
[02:53] <russavia> steinsplitter ^ ^
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[02:53] <Steinsplitter> ?
[02:54] <russavia> read what i just wrote -- you able to do that? know how to do it?
[02:56] <Steinsplitter> ....
[02:56] <Fae_look_alike> Anyone know why I frequently get 'urllib.ContentTooShortError' as a permanent failure for some uploads from www.defenseimagery.mil but not others?
[03:02] <russavia> fae, [[Commons:Bots/Work_requests#Uploading_a_high_value_stream_from_Flickr_.28we_have_template.29]] have put general request there
[03:02] <AsimovBot> [9] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Bots/Work_requests%23Uploading_a_high_value_stream_from_Flickr_%2E28we_have_template%2E29
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[03:07] <russavia> how fucking sick is the gun culture in the US -- http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-21/teens-charged-with-murder-of-baseballer-christopher-lane/4901044 -- "He said they had decided to kill someone "for the fun of it"."
[03:09] <BlastHardcheese> it would have been much more considerate of them to beat him to death
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[04:15] <Revi> bugzilla:52967 was solved
[04:16] <Revi> now default photo lisence is set to CC-BY-SA-3.0.
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[04:28] <Steinsplitter> russavia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9r8LMU9bQ
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[04:49] <russavia> are you fucking kidding me!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know/Queue/6
[04:51] <Steinsplitter> O_O OMG+
[04:55] <Steinsplitter> Pricasso – Russavia (give) (tag) –View nom subpage
[04:55] <Steinsplitter> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know/Queue/6#Credits O_O
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[05:10] <Fae_look_alike> LOL I was just on a Skype call where this was pointed out. I realized I'm well out of touch on what is going on at en.wp - that's a good thing. :-)
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[06:00] <Nemo_bis> hmpf https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Roundtables/Roundtable_3
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[06:39] <Steinsplitter> Drakula O_O
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[07:21] <russavia> shit 35 years for manning -- that's justice for ya
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[07:24] <Nemo_bis> Steinsplitter: we also have bakula
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[07:24] <Nemo_bis> russavia: so little
[07:24] <Nemo_bis> why no death penalty I wonder, he must feel ignored
[07:25] <russavia> too little? considering the pilots of the apache who gunned down those journalists have yet to face any sort of criminal charge, really where's the justic
[07:30] <Wim_b> Nemo_bis: in italia 35 anni sono il tempo medio che serve per il rimborso di un divieto di sosta pagato per errore :p
[07:31] <Wim_b> quindi non sono poi così tanti rapportati alla giustizia italiana :D
[07:31] <Steinsplitter> Nemo_bis: é un die #wikipedia-de :D
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[07:33] <Nemo_bis> Wim_b: be', se è erroneo e lo paghi comunque sono fatti tuoi :P
[07:34] <Wim_b> dato per errore :p
[07:34] <Wim_b> sai quelle multe che ogni tanto ti arrivano con la tua targa ma modello sconosciuto? :)
[07:35] <Wim_b> che devi andare dal giudice di pace per fartela togliere e devi pure pagarlo?
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[07:37] <Nemo_bis> Wim_b: per quelle è meglio il prefetto
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[07:38] <Nemo_bis> multichill is making my archive of March 2009 uploads hard, even bigger than Bundesarchiv :) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Forest_%26_Kim_Starr
[07:38] <Nemo_bis> ten times bigger a day than average
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[08:35] <Nemo_bis> Fae: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52253
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[08:43] <russavia> my76strat, you want a rename?
[08:44] <russavia> do you want me to usurp your current commons edits?
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[09:59] <Fae_look_alike> Nemo_bis: Thanks for that bug link, it's a long complex discussion. Saw your email, I don't have a list. When/if https is switched on we can start a list of bots that stop working. For me, Faebot and Noaabot have to change and I haven't done anything about it as the preferences do not show an opt-out feature in advance of switch-over (having weeks or a month to opt-out in advance would have...
[09:59] <Fae_look_alike> ...been a great precautionary measure and would have ensured continuous operation for bots with operators that were paying attention).
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[10:09] <Fae_look_alike> russavia: I see you are being called a massive dick. As a gay man, I love the imagery, but I would never use that language on-wiki to describe others. May have something to do with Wikipedia Review voting me Dick of the Year a while back. :-P
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[10:10] <Fae_look_alike> Dschwen seems to be working himself up and ought to take an early bath.
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[10:13] <russavia> Fae, we don't need to take baths; us wikipedos are famous for being unkempt, dirty slobbish pigs
[10:17] <pleclown> On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
[10:17] <AFBorchert> *wuff* ;)
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[10:18] <russavia> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Dr._James_Captain_Slow_May_-_RIAT_2010_(4811196091).jpg&oldid=102386241 i should have kept the original description
[10:18] <Fae_look_alike> I think you must mean the straight ones, like, say, Jimbo. The rest of us are known for ramming our minority extremist views in everyone's eyes but we are known for hanging around bathhouses too, so that's nice and clean.
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[10:19] <Fae_look_alike> Actually, strike that, I don't have a source to demonstrate that Jimbo is straight.
[10:19] <russavia> bwahaha
[10:19] <russavia> shhhh fae
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[10:22] <russavia> From Wikipedia. The Free Encyclopaedia. "Jimmy Wales is married to blah blah blah. According to http://marriage.about.com/cs/straightspouses/a/straightspouse.htm, a study determined that 20% of gay men in the US are in a straight marriage, and 50% of gay men have fathered children" OMG
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[10:22] <russavia> see that would be trolling, and trolling is bad, mmmmmkay
[10:23] <Fae_look_alike> Yes, sorry. I don't want to accuse anyone of being straight unless they self identify. Poor form.
[10:23] <russavia> hi btw afborchert :)
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[10:23] <AFBorchert> Hi Russavia & Fae & pleclown
[10:24] <Fae_look_alike> Hi, welcome to the non-cabal channel.
[10:24] <AFBorchert> there is no cabal here?
[10:24] <Fae_look_alike> Remember the first rule of the cabal?
[10:24] <russavia> a cabal of people who enjoy a laugh, yeah
[10:25] <russavia> Rule #1 -- keep all discussion away from #wikipedia-en
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[10:25] <AFBorchert> well, #wikimedia-commons logs get published as well
[10:25] <russavia> oh cool, i was hoping that day would come :)
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[10:26] <Fae_look_alike> Rule #0 -- assume everyone is capable of being a dick. ;-)
[10:26] <AFBorchert> see http://wikipedialogs.com/logs/index.html
[10:26] <Steinsplitter> Rule #1 -- keep all discussion away from #wikipedia-commons _:P
[10:26] <AFBorchert> some logs of this channel are included
[10:26] <russavia> no steinsplitter, we keep all discussion here
[10:27] <AFBorchert> and wikipediocracy folks already quoted me from here
[10:27] <Steinsplitter> i keep me discussions in #******* :) ;-)
[10:27] <russavia> i doubt the logger would be using the same username hmmm
[10:28] <AFBorchert> if you want to chat with me more privately, go to irc.in-ulm.de
[10:28] <Fae_look_alike> I would support officially logging all Wikimedia channels. Drive away the shadows with light - getting a bit biblical there, never mind.
[10:29] * bawolff tends to agree
[10:29] <Fae_look_alike> I would be happy to be quoted calling Kohs a complete tosser, so little to hide from Wikipediocracy.
[10:29] <harej> And how.
[10:32] * bawolff notes all the mediawiki channels are logged (or most. There's the secret staff channel i suppose)
[10:32] <russavia> wouldn't it be great if we required editors to identify with the foundation before editing, and for editing to occur under real names? :)
[10:32] <Technical_13> bawolff: shhh!
[10:32] <Technical_13> We don't talk about #mediawiki-fightclub
[10:32] <pleclown> Wikipediocracy is a nice place. I've learn there that I have asked admins to block me on enwp, and that I was blocked for some other thing last year
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[10:32] <bawolff> russavia: Hey, I'm identified to the foundation
[10:33] <Technical_13> :p
[10:33] * Technical_13 is identified...
[10:33] * AFBorchert is identified as well
[10:33] <russavia> i'm not
[10:33] * pleclown is not
[10:33] <AFBorchert> I'm away now...
[10:34] <Fae_look_alike> I'm identified. :-D I was years ago.
[10:34] <bawolff> They took away my oversight way back in the day when they realized I was < 18
[10:34] <russavia> and then you were identified in other ways too Fae :)
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[10:35] <russavia> sorry, a person who looks alike was identified as you
[10:35] <Fae_look_alike> Yes, that's right. I deny everything.
[10:35] <Fae_look_alike> This look alike account is not even me.
[10:35] <russavia> fark that, own it :)
[10:36] <Fae_look_alike> I'm actually under 18 and there's some middle-aged guy pretending to be me.
[10:37] <Fae_look_alike> When that story breaks it'll make a good Signpost story.
[10:37] <bawolff> sounds up their ally
[10:38] <Fae_look_alike> They'll stick in 'allegedly' and that'll make the defamation okay.
[10:38] <russavia> xD
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[10:51] <Fae_look_alike> Just re-reading Dschwen's "whipping your dick out in public" comment and wondering if he meant it to be completely hilarious or not. The discussion is long, fractured, complex; but it's not boring.
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[10:55] <pleclown> Fae_look_alike: it's tiring.
[10:55] <russavia> amen brah
[10:55] <Fae_look_alike> Yes. My tip, skip to the best bits.
[10:56] <pleclown> or do not care.
[10:56] <russavia> or get pierreselim to delete and oversight it all :)
[10:56] <pleclown> sorry russavia, but for my own sanity, I've decided to stop giving a shit.
[10:57] <russavia> same here mate
[10:57] <Fae_look_alike> :-D I think that's how Commons improves. Consensus through exhaustion.
[10:57] <pleclown> I'm back to what I do best. Upload tons of useless pictures.
[10:58] <pleclown> useless, but self made.
[10:58] <russavia> mine are useless, but made by others
[10:58] <russavia> we are almost the same
[10:58] <Fae_look_alike> A system for quick polls would be great in comparison. /You have 24 hours to vote yes or no on whether to ban Fae, click here/
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[10:58] <Fae_look_alike> That would be a cool system. And it automates the lynch-mob process. ;-)
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[10:59] <mattbuck> {{vd}}
[10:59] <AsimovBot> [10] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:vd?redirect=no - Redirection to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Vote_delete
[11:00] <Fae_look_alike> mattbuck keep your VD to yourself please. :-)
[11:00] <pleclown> mattbuck: it's too complicated
[11:00] <pleclown> we should set a page off wiki.
[11:00] <mattbuck> voting to ban fae? it seems easy to me!
[11:00] <mattbuck> I just did!
[11:00] <pleclown> the wikimarkup is too complicated
[11:01] <PierreSelim> I'm just wondering when people will stop wikilawyering on Russ's de-crat page
[11:01] <PierreSelim> maybe the https things will break the login feature
[11:01] <PierreSelim> :p
[11:01] <Fae_look_alike> So tempting. We could wipe out the cabal overnight. A 24 hour quick poll could get rid of all the top contributors. A neat blood bath and then we could all come back as new anon accounts...
[11:01] <russavia> weeee pierre
[11:02] <pleclown> Fae_look_alike: what if I upload my files under my real name ?
[11:02] <PierreSelim> pleclown: I'll have an excuse to OS your upload
[11:02] <PierreSelim> :p
[11:02] <russavia> Pierre le Clown?
[11:02] <pleclown> russavia: Pipo
[11:02] <PierreSelim> Pipo le Clown :p
[11:02] <mattbuck> in the city or the suburbs
[11:04] <Fae_look_alike> pleclown: You can change it by deed poll - this was actually advice that a member of Arbcom gave me on how to handle my harassment case. Sigh.
[11:05] <mattbuck> when I dream, I dream your fists, your fists, your fists
[11:05] <pleclown> Fae_look_alike: that's a really useful advice.
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[11:07] <pleclown> Fae_look_alike: But I don't live in a common-law country.
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[11:09] <rillke> @seen zhuyifei1999
[11:09] <wm-bot> rillke: Last time I saw zhuyifei1999 they were joining the channel, they are still in the channel #wikimedia-labs-offtopic at 8/21/2013 4:22:27 PM (1h45m55s ago)
[11:09] * rillke thinks wikimedia-labs-offtopic is an interesting channel name
[11:10] <pleclown> rillke: wikimedia-labs iz serious buziness
[11:11] <PierreSelim> rillke: :p
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[11:25] <pleclown> mattbuck: you there ?
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[11:27] <mattbuck> yes?
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[12:33] <bawolff> How often does the description field of the image info template having things outside of a language template ( like {{en|Image description here}})
[12:33] <AsimovBot> [11] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:en
[12:34] <bawolff> More importantly, how often does it mix content where some is in a language template, and some isn't?
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[12:35] <Technical_13> @link
[12:35] <wm-bot> http://enwp.org/Template:en%7cImage_description_here
[12:36] <rillke> bawolff: Something to ask at [[COM:VP]] or finding out by crawling a few pages.
[12:36] <AsimovBot> [12] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:VP?redirect=no - Redirection to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump
[12:37] <pleclown> Is there any Lower-saxons on commons ?
[12:37] <bawolff> rillke: I've been special:random/file 'ing a couple times
[12:38] <rillke> bawolff: I was, for example told, that I should put "Latin" names of flowers not inside {{la|...}} because that would be no real "Latin".
[12:38] <AsimovBot> [13] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:la
[12:38] <darkweasel> pleclown, you speak french natively, right?
[12:39] <darkweasel> can you help out there? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Olivier_Minne_sur_Fort_Boyard_en_2007.jpg
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[12:39] <pleclown> darkweasel: yes, I'm french, and no, I can't. Because I don't know what to do.
[12:40] * bawolff is writing a script that is trying to pick out image descriptions from commons pages. I'm wondering if i should just ignore things outside of the language tag of the target language
[12:40] <darkweasel> perhaps explain that we do delete images when an actual reason for deletion (privacy etc.) has been given, or something like that :/
[12:40] <pleclown> darkweasel: I've already told him that...
[12:41] <darkweasel> ah yeah, i see
[12:42] <pleclown> darkweasel: the best thing is to ignore him
[12:42] <darkweasel> yeah possibly
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[12:44] <rillke> Is bawolff writing something like WikiPic?
[12:45] <rillke> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/wikipic
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[12:48] <rillke> bawolff: If you need a JS-Wiki-DOM parser https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-libWikiDOM.js
[12:50] <rillke> templateZero = mw.libs.wikiDOM.parser.text2Obj( "wiki{{text}}" ).nodesByType.template[0]
[12:50] <AsimovBot> [14] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:text
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[13:33] <bawolff> Sort of similar, (in the getting the metadata) but from the php side
[13:35] <rillke> bawolff: Please provide this as API service.
[13:35] <bawolff> I will (Assuming things work out)
[13:35] <rillke> Oh, great!
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[13:41] <Technical_13> @configure default_link_wiki=commons
[13:41] <wm-bot> Value commons was stored into default_link_wiki to config
[13:41] <Technical_13> @link [[User:My76Strat]]
[13:41] <wm-bot> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:My76Strat
[13:41] <AsimovBot> [15] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:My76Strat
[13:42] <Technical_13> AsimovBot: redundant much?
[13:42] <AsimovBot> Error: Command “redundant” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written.
[13:42] <My76Strat> nice thank you
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[13:42] <Technical_13> What else does AsimovBot do?
[13:44] <Technical_13> !help
[13:44] -eir:#wikimedia-commons- Available help topics are: help
[13:44] -eir:#wikimedia-commons- For bantracker documentation see http://freenode.net/eir.shtml
[13:44] <FastLizard4> Ow.
[13:44] <Technical_13> Help is stalkword?
[13:46] <FastLizard4> No, didn't you see eir /notice the channel?
[13:46] <Technical_13> FastLizard4: do you know what else AsimovBot does?
[13:47] <FastLizard4> I've no idea what AsimovBot is, sorry
[13:47] <FastLizard4> I mean, I see it's a bot here
[13:47] <Technical_13> Yeah, I saw it. Figured it was result of !help
[13:47] <FastLizard4> But beyond that fact, /me knows nothing
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[13:47] <bawolff> presumably it predates wm-bot
[13:47] <bawolff> wm-bot seems to get pushed into channels where its not really needed
[13:48] <Technical_13> wm-bot: not needed?! :0
[13:48] <Technical_13> bawolff: what you smoking!
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[14:01] <Nemo_bis> pleclown: it's always amusing how the useless self-made photos uploaded to Commons get used en mass rather quickly :)
[14:02] <darkweasel> you mean like that xilography (if that's the right word in english) of edward snowden?
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[14:02] <Nemo_bis> probably not
[14:02] <darkweasel> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Edward_Snowden_%22Xilograf%C3%ADa%22.jpg
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[14:03] <darkweasel> it was put on even more wikipedias, including eo: where i saw it
[14:03] <darkweasel> (and removed it)
[14:04] <Nemo_bis> so what is wm-bot doing here
[14:04] <Nemo_bis> !
[14:04] <Nemo_bis> !!
[14:04] <bawolff> !!!
[14:04] <darkweasel> C-C-COMBOBREAKER
[14:04] <Nemo_bis> ah, good, it doesn't whine about exclamation marks any longer
[14:04] <Nemo_bis> I hate bot style-policing
[14:05] <Nemo_bis> bawolff: how many days left before the dark day your contract ends?
[14:05] <bawolff> 9 days
[14:05] <Nemo_bis> aww
[14:05] <bawolff> ends on august 30
[14:06] <bawolff> Obviously though I'll still be around in a volunteer capacity
[14:06] <Nemo_bis> http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-commons-admin/
[14:06] <Nemo_bis> sure
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[14:07] * bawolff 's been addicted to wikis in one form or another since 2005. I'm sure I'll be continued to be adicted
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[14:10] <Nemo_bis> i just meant dark day for wmf
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[14:13] <mattbuck> darkweasel, DRed
[14:14] <darkweasel> oh. didn't know it was likely to be a copyvio
[14:21] <mattbuck> everything's a copyvio if you try hard enough
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[14:33] <Qcoder00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sfan00_IMG/Unlikley_Destinations_for_a_photo_trip - How unlikley are some of these?
[14:35] <mattbuck> you want to freeze Johnny Depp?
[14:35] <mattbuck> also I have a photo of Menwith Hill
[14:36] <mattbuck> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mattbuck#Conflict go rip ottava a new one
[14:38] <Qcoder00> There are some typos
[14:38] <Qcoder00> :(
[14:44] <mattbuck> ATTENTION CABAL MEMBERS: OUR SECRET PLAN TO DECRAT RUSSAVIA TO MAINTAIN OUR SECRECY HAS BEEN REVEALED
[14:44] <mattbuck> EVERYONE FOR THEMSELVES
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[14:49] <Fae_look_alike> OMG, I'm going to hide under my desk.
[14:52] * Fae_look_alike Wonders how to program /trollbot/ as a replacement for Ottava Rima when he retires.
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[15:00] <bawolff> mattbuck: If there was a cabal, i feel like it would be trying to keep russavia cratted
[15:02] <mattbuck> ah, that's just we want you to think
[15:03] <mattbuck> by decratting it seems like we're not all powerful, allowing us to maintain the real power because people believe we're powerless
[15:03] <bawolff> ah. Tricky tricky
[15:03] <mattbuck> we're very clever
[15:04] <mattbuck> unlike louisiana republicans, a greater percentage of whom say Obama was to blame for the botched response to Hurricane Katrina than say George Bush was to blame
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[15:39] <Qcoder00> http://archive.org/details/NSACryptologs - Suitable for Commons?
[15:39] <Qcoder00> (It's a full set of a what appears to be an internal NSA technical journal)
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[15:47] <mattbuck> I guess that counts as pd-usgov
[15:49] <Qcoder00> Som degree of transcription redaction might need to be done as there are some places where the text gives away more than is intended.. (like copyright contents of DOS boot sectors..)
[15:50] <Qcoder00> Not found Issue1 in the scans - but it would be reasonable to start with the oldest item...
[15:50] <bawolff> copyright content of DOS boot sectors?!?
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[15:53] <Qcoder00> One of the articles in an issue has a basic guide to how to do disc sector editing
[15:53] <Qcoder00> It includes a sample boot sector as an example...
[15:53] <Qcoder00> (and I can't be sure it's a 'free' one...
[15:54] <Qcoder00> The problem here is a Commons/Wikisource one... not one of 'secrets'
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[15:56] <Qcoder00> Worth suggesting a WikiProject?
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[15:58] <ebraminio> anyone has any clue about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53184 ?
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[16:00] <bawolff> ebraminio: yeah. I'll write on bug report
[16:02] <ebraminio> bawolff: thank you, hope to be fixed soon
[16:02] <bawolff> hmm, actually the cause I thought it was might not be it
[16:05] <bawolff> I'll have to look into it further
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[16:07] <Qcoder00> Hi Dcoetzee
[16:07] <Qcoder00> Do you know if Wlonka is still active?
[16:07] <Qcoder00> &Elonka?
[16:07] <Qcoder00> *Elonka even?
[16:08] <ebraminio> bawolff: hmm, okay, may is it related to any page inside commons?
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[16:54] <ebraminio> bawolff: I am running this http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:MediaWiki_Update_Bot/commonsmwupdate_specific.py for my language
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[17:00] <ebraminio> any bureaucrat here? need a temporary bot flag for user account
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[17:04] <ebraminio> no longer needed :)
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[17:09] <bawolff> ebraminio: for your issue - try looking at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload?uploadformstyle=plain&uselang=qqx and anything in brackets like "(ignorewarnings)" make sure that the page mediawiki:ignorewarnings/fafromflickr exists
[17:16] <ebraminio> bawolff: the bot http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Ignorewarnings/fafromflickr&action=history made it
[17:17] <bawolff> oh hmm, sorry I must have made a mistake when looking for it
[17:17] <bawolff> its not in the prefix index search thingy, which is odd
[17:18] <bawolff> I swear those didn't exist when I was checking them
[17:19] <bawolff> nonetheless its still not showing up, which is weird
[17:20] * bawolff has no idea
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[17:25] <ebraminio> bawolff: no problem, thanks for your time :)
[17:25] <bawolff> I'm hoping that maybe it will fix itself after a day or something
[17:26] <bawolff> Someone like nikerabbit might know
[17:28] <ebraminio> bawolff: Yes I am aware of that, for example this http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Upload-permitted/zhfromflickr applied after two days
[17:28] <ebraminio> but you know... i hope a less hackish solution for it also
[17:29] <bawolff> uploadwizard campaigns maybe (I know nothing about that feature, so that might be a stupid suggestion)
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[18:48] * Topic is 'Wikimedia Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org | Status: See http://status.wikimedia.org | https://twitter.com/wikicommons | For URGENT admin help, say "!admin@commons + your request" | Admin channel: #wikimedia-commons-admin | Vandalism: #cvn-commons and #cvn-commons-uploads | Commons-l: http://bit.ly/commonsMonth'
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[23:52] <mattbuck> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mattbuck#Conflict
[23:52] <mattbuck> SOMEONE
[23:52] <mattbuck> please go and smack that troll
[23:53] <mattbuck> apparently quoting policy on my talk page is now considered being disruptive
[23:55] <mattbuck> that wasn't a rhetorical request
[23:55] <mattbuck> I could really do with someone's help
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[00:17] <Fae> russavia: On the art installation; http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:FOP#Italy means FOP is not a clear rationale, though past cases like http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Tate_Britain_North_Gallery_Jaguar.jpg show that 'installations' of purely mass produced objects or those with mechanical or chemical transformations (such as rusting) may not have...
[00:17] <Fae> ...sufficient creativity to be copyrightable from the viewpoint of hosting on Commons.
[00:17] <Fae> So, it is a potential DR to discuss the case.
[00:21] <PierreSelim> after reading french article on Shanghai, I believe I have some useful picture for Commons :p
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[00:44] <russavia> when is the changeover to https being made?
[00:44] <russavia> cropbot doesn't seem to be working anymore either
[00:49] <Steinsplitter> russavia: cropbot is using http, this is the problem
[00:50] <Steinsplitter> /-( https://svn.toolserver.org/svnroot/luxo/cropbot/
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[00:54] <Steinsplitter> russavia: or his quoate is full, the last time his quota was full
[00:54] <russavia> steinsplitter -- can you follow up here -- http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Luxo#Cropbot.27s_stopped_working -- just in case, coz i know nothing about coding and stuff
[00:54] <russavia> he has a quota? we need to remove that quota
[00:55] <Steinsplitter> the last time i hav asked DaB.
[00:55] <Steinsplitter> russavia: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rotatebot
[00:55] <Steinsplitter> and rotatebot is broken
[00:56] <russavia> again, since 19 august
[00:56] <Steinsplitter> i suggest to search a new bot operator
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[02:30] <Steinsplitter> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MisterGugaruz
[02:30] <Steinsplitter> ....
[02:33] <Fae_look_alike> Yes, well, SPAs will be discounted I guess, along with rather pointless IP contributions...
[02:33] <russavia> it's a bar.wp editor -- you know the project where I was blocked from 3 projects by a single admin
[02:34] <russavia> 3 projects instanteously
[02:34] <russavia> [[:bar:Wikipediocracy]]
[02:34] <AsimovBot> [7] https://bar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipediocracy
[02:35] <Steinsplitter> *LOL*
[02:35] <russavia> now why is bar.wp the only project it is on after en.wp -- hell, even pl.wp deleted it
[02:35] <Fae_look_alike> The SUL check on the toolserver being out of action makes it hard to check on these things.
[02:35] <Steinsplitter> jepp /-(
[02:36] <russavia> Bavarian Wikipedia is a law until itself, and they hate everyone there
[02:36] <russavia> much like the real Bavaria :)
[02:37] <Steinsplitter> Wikipediocracy is not relevant, out of SCOPE.
[02:37] <Fae_look_alike> I saw the notice about moving to https: - I voted against it. I'm still unsure there was a *clear* case of why this benefits all users; as opposed to it remaining opt-in. It's going to screw up quite a few bots I think...
[02:37] <Steinsplitter> *lol* Trllscope
[02:37] <Steinsplitter> russavia: later i try to speak wit Reedy
[02:37] <Steinsplitter> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Reedy_RotateBot
[02:38] <Steinsplitter> starting this bot^^ :P
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[02:38] <Fae_look_alike> ... there are precious few bot maintainers that will sweep up and those that are not being actively maintained will all stop overnight. Sigh.
[02:38] <Steinsplitter> jwpp
[02:41] <Steinsplitter> Fae_look_alike: FaeBot can rotate Pictures? mhm... the php script is strange /-(
[02:41] <Steinsplitter> *luxos
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[02:42] <Fae_look_alike> No, Faebot does not do that. I never sorted out a lossless transformation and I don't spend time on stuff that other bots are doing okay on.
[02:42] <Steinsplitter> :)
[02:44] <russavia> well anything we can do to get these bots working asap, either old or new, can only be a good thing
[02:45] <Steinsplitter> or Reedy start the User:Reedy_RotateBot :)
[02:47] <Fae_look_alike> Oh, plus Faebot was approved for UK and GLAM work rather than wider and more general stuff - so I'm a bit cautious about larger projects going to Faebot without consensus. Hence the creation of Noaabot for that project and I may consider others if they arise out of firm need. Admittedly I'm working on matching tiffs with jpgs for the NARA project, but that's more of a one off odd-job rather...
[02:47] <Fae_look_alike> ...than a repeatable or long term bot-job in my view. Russavia: Yes, maybe. I'm focused on Python and pywikipediabot stuff, so bots in other systems would not be my bag. If there is a big bot breakdown, we probably should start a list and discussion on the VP to attract helpers.
[02:48] <russavia> Fae, slap
[02:48] <Steinsplitter> :D
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[02:49] <russavia> fae, this is BY-NC -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/foreignoffice -- but we have {{FCO}} -- is there some way you can import these photos to commons? I'll do the hard yards on them
[02:49] <AsimovBot> [8] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:FCO
[02:52] <russavia> i have a shitload of non en.wp articles a lot of them could be used on
[02:52] <Fae_look_alike> Not right now. If I get flickrripper going on my laptop I could probably do it easily, but I spent 15mins fiddling with it last night and probably need to spend a couple of frustrating hours getting the install working. If more urgent stuff does not displace it, I could get around to it - the value would be not just the FCO but all the other NC and restricted uploads (such as Sasha's...
[02:52] <Fae_look_alike> ...artistic photos) that might be regular imports. So a week or two unless someone else cracks on with it.
[02:53] <Fae_look_alike> I'll clip this into my backlog...
[02:53] <russavia> steinsplitter ^ ^
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[02:53] <Steinsplitter> ?
[02:54] <russavia> read what i just wrote -- you able to do that? know how to do it?
[02:56] <Steinsplitter> ....
[02:56] <Fae_look_alike> Anyone know why I frequently get 'urllib.ContentTooShortError' as a permanent failure for some uploads from www.defenseimagery.mil but not others?
[03:02] <russavia> fae, [[Commons:Bots/Work_requests#Uploading_a_high_value_stream_from_Flickr_.28we_have_template.29]] have put general request there
[03:02] <AsimovBot> [9] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Bots/Work_requests%23Uploading_a_high_value_stream_from_Flickr_%2E28we_have_template%2E29
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[03:07] <russavia> how fucking sick is the gun culture in the US -- http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-21/teens-charged-with-murder-of-baseballer-christopher-lane/4901044 -- "He said they had decided to kill someone "for the fun of it"."
[03:09] <BlastHardcheese> it would have been much more considerate of them to beat him to death
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[04:15] <Revi> bugzilla:52967 was solved
[04:16] <Revi> now default photo lisence is set to CC-BY-SA-3.0.
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[04:28] <Steinsplitter> russavia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9r8LMU9bQ
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[04:49] <russavia> are you fucking kidding me!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know/Queue/6
[04:51] <Steinsplitter> O_O OMG+
[04:55] <Steinsplitter> Pricasso – Russavia (give) (tag) –View nom subpage
[04:55] <Steinsplitter> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know/Queue/6#Credits O_O
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[05:10] <Fae_look_alike> LOL I was just on a Skype call where this was pointed out. I realized I'm well out of touch on what is going on at en.wp - that's a good thing. :-)
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[06:00] <Nemo_bis> hmpf https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Roundtables/Roundtable_3
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[06:39] <Steinsplitter> Drakula O_O
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[07:21] <russavia> shit 35 years for manning -- that's justice for ya
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[07:24] <Nemo_bis> Steinsplitter: we also have bakula
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[07:24] <Nemo_bis> russavia: so little
[07:24] <Nemo_bis> why no death penalty I wonder, he must feel ignored
[07:25] <russavia> too little? considering the pilots of the apache who gunned down those journalists have yet to face any sort of criminal charge, really where's the justic
[07:30] <Wim_b> Nemo_bis: in italia 35 anni sono il tempo medio che serve per il rimborso di un divieto di sosta pagato per errore :p
[07:31] <Wim_b> quindi non sono poi così tanti rapportati alla giustizia italiana :D
[07:31] <Steinsplitter> Nemo_bis: é un die #wikipedia-de :D
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[07:33] <Nemo_bis> Wim_b: be', se è erroneo e lo paghi comunque sono fatti tuoi :P
[07:34] <Wim_b> dato per errore :p
[07:34] <Wim_b> sai quelle multe che ogni tanto ti arrivano con la tua targa ma modello sconosciuto? :)
[07:35] <Wim_b> che devi andare dal giudice di pace per fartela togliere e devi pure pagarlo?
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[07:37] <Nemo_bis> Wim_b: per quelle è meglio il prefetto
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[07:38] <Nemo_bis> multichill is making my archive of March 2009 uploads hard, even bigger than Bundesarchiv :) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Forest_%26_Kim_Starr
[07:38] <Nemo_bis> ten times bigger a day than average
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[08:35] <Nemo_bis> Fae: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52253
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[08:43] <russavia> my76strat, you want a rename?
[08:44] <russavia> do you want me to usurp your current commons edits?
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[09:59] <Fae_look_alike> Nemo_bis: Thanks for that bug link, it's a long complex discussion. Saw your email, I don't have a list. When/if https is switched on we can start a list of bots that stop working. For me, Faebot and Noaabot have to change and I haven't done anything about it as the preferences do not show an opt-out feature in advance of switch-over (having weeks or a month to opt-out in advance would have...
[09:59] <Fae_look_alike> ...been a great precautionary measure and would have ensured continuous operation for bots with operators that were paying attention).
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[10:09] <Fae_look_alike> russavia: I see you are being called a massive dick. As a gay man, I love the imagery, but I would never use that language on-wiki to describe others. May have something to do with Wikipedia Review voting me Dick of the Year a while back. :-P
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[10:10] <Fae_look_alike> Dschwen seems to be working himself up and ought to take an early bath.
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[10:13] <russavia> Fae, we don't need to take baths; us wikipedos are famous for being unkempt, dirty slobbish pigs
[10:17] <pleclown> On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
[10:17] <AFBorchert> *wuff* ;)
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[10:18] <russavia> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Dr._James_Captain_Slow_May_-_RIAT_2010_(4811196091).jpg&oldid=102386241 i should have kept the original description
[10:18] <Fae_look_alike> I think you must mean the straight ones, like, say, Jimbo. The rest of us are known for ramming our minority extremist views in everyone's eyes but we are known for hanging around bathhouses too, so that's nice and clean.
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[10:19] <Fae_look_alike> Actually, strike that, I don't have a source to demonstrate that Jimbo is straight.
[10:19] <russavia> bwahaha
[10:19] <russavia> shhhh fae
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[10:22] <russavia> From Wikipedia. The Free Encyclopaedia. "Jimmy Wales is married to blah blah blah. According to http://marriage.about.com/cs/straightspouses/a/straightspouse.htm, a study determined that 20% of gay men in the US are in a straight marriage, and 50% of gay men have fathered children" OMG
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[10:22] <russavia> see that would be trolling, and trolling is bad, mmmmmkay
[10:23] <Fae_look_alike> Yes, sorry. I don't want to accuse anyone of being straight unless they self identify. Poor form.
[10:23] <russavia> hi btw afborchert :)
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[10:23] <AFBorchert> Hi Russavia & Fae & pleclown
[10:24] <Fae_look_alike> Hi, welcome to the non-cabal channel.
[10:24] <AFBorchert> there is no cabal here?
[10:24] <Fae_look_alike> Remember the first rule of the cabal?
[10:24] <russavia> a cabal of people who enjoy a laugh, yeah
[10:25] <russavia> Rule #1 -- keep all discussion away from #wikipedia-en
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[10:25] <AFBorchert> well, #wikimedia-commons logs get published as well
[10:25] <russavia> oh cool, i was hoping that day would come :)
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[10:26] <Fae_look_alike> Rule #0 -- assume everyone is capable of being a dick. ;-)
[10:26] <AFBorchert> see http://wikipedialogs.com/logs/index.html
[10:26] <Steinsplitter> Rule #1 -- keep all discussion away from #wikipedia-commons _:P
[10:26] <AFBorchert> some logs of this channel are included
[10:26] <russavia> no steinsplitter, we keep all discussion here
[10:27] <AFBorchert> and wikipediocracy folks already quoted me from here
[10:27] <Steinsplitter> i keep me discussions in #******* :) ;-)
[10:27] <russavia> i doubt the logger would be using the same username hmmm
[10:28] <AFBorchert> if you want to chat with me more privately, go to irc.in-ulm.de
[10:28] <Fae_look_alike> I would support officially logging all Wikimedia channels. Drive away the shadows with light - getting a bit biblical there, never mind.
[10:29] * bawolff tends to agree
[10:29] <Fae_look_alike> I would be happy to be quoted calling Kohs a complete tosser, so little to hide from Wikipediocracy.
[10:29] <harej> And how.
[10:32] * bawolff notes all the mediawiki channels are logged (or most. There's the secret staff channel i suppose)
[10:32] <russavia> wouldn't it be great if we required editors to identify with the foundation before editing, and for editing to occur under real names? :)
[10:32] <Technical_13> bawolff: shhh!
[10:32] <Technical_13> We don't talk about #mediawiki-fightclub
[10:32] <pleclown> Wikipediocracy is a nice place. I've learn there that I have asked admins to block me on enwp, and that I was blocked for some other thing last year
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[10:32] <bawolff> russavia: Hey, I'm identified to the foundation
[10:33] <Technical_13> :p
[10:33] * Technical_13 is identified...
[10:33] * AFBorchert is identified as well
[10:33] <russavia> i'm not
[10:33] * pleclown is not
[10:33] <AFBorchert> I'm away now...
[10:34] <Fae_look_alike> I'm identified. :-D I was years ago.
[10:34] <bawolff> They took away my oversight way back in the day when they realized I was < 18
[10:34] <russavia> and then you were identified in other ways too Fae :)
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[10:35] <russavia> sorry, a person who looks alike was identified as you
[10:35] <Fae_look_alike> Yes, that's right. I deny everything.
[10:35] <Fae_look_alike> This look alike account is not even me.
[10:35] <russavia> fark that, own it :)
[10:36] <Fae_look_alike> I'm actually under 18 and there's some middle-aged guy pretending to be me.
[10:37] <Fae_look_alike> When that story breaks it'll make a good Signpost story.
[10:37] <bawolff> sounds up their ally
[10:38] <Fae_look_alike> They'll stick in 'allegedly' and that'll make the defamation okay.
[10:38] <russavia> xD
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[10:51] <Fae_look_alike> Just re-reading Dschwen's "whipping your dick out in public" comment and wondering if he meant it to be completely hilarious or not. The discussion is long, fractured, complex; but it's not boring.
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[10:55] <pleclown> Fae_look_alike: it's tiring.
[10:55] <russavia> amen brah
[10:55] <Fae_look_alike> Yes. My tip, skip to the best bits.
[10:56] <pleclown> or do not care.
[10:56] <russavia> or get pierreselim to delete and oversight it all :)
[10:56] <pleclown> sorry russavia, but for my own sanity, I've decided to stop giving a shit.
[10:57] <russavia> same here mate
[10:57] <Fae_look_alike> :-D I think that's how Commons improves. Consensus through exhaustion.
[10:57] <pleclown> I'm back to what I do best. Upload tons of useless pictures.
[10:58] <pleclown> useless, but self made.
[10:58] <russavia> mine are useless, but made by others
[10:58] <russavia> we are almost the same
[10:58] <Fae_look_alike> A system for quick polls would be great in comparison. /You have 24 hours to vote yes or no on whether to ban Fae, click here/
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[10:58] <Fae_look_alike> That would be a cool system. And it automates the lynch-mob process. ;-)
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[10:59] <mattbuck> {{vd}}
[10:59] <AsimovBot> [10] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:vd?redirect=no - Redirection to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Vote_delete
[11:00] <Fae_look_alike> mattbuck keep your VD to yourself please. :-)
[11:00] <pleclown> mattbuck: it's too complicated
[11:00] <pleclown> we should set a page off wiki.
[11:00] <mattbuck> voting to ban fae? it seems easy to me!
[11:00] <mattbuck> I just did!
[11:00] <pleclown> the wikimarkup is too complicated
[11:01] <PierreSelim> I'm just wondering when people will stop wikilawyering on Russ's de-crat page
[11:01] <PierreSelim> maybe the https things will break the login feature
[11:01] <PierreSelim> :p
[11:01] <Fae_look_alike> So tempting. We could wipe out the cabal overnight. A 24 hour quick poll could get rid of all the top contributors. A neat blood bath and then we could all come back as new anon accounts...
[11:01] <russavia> weeee pierre
[11:02] <pleclown> Fae_look_alike: what if I upload my files under my real name ?
[11:02] <PierreSelim> pleclown: I'll have an excuse to OS your upload
[11:02] <PierreSelim> :p
[11:02] <russavia> Pierre le Clown?
[11:02] <pleclown> russavia: Pipo
[11:02] <PierreSelim> Pipo le Clown :p
[11:02] <mattbuck> in the city or the suburbs
[11:04] <Fae_look_alike> pleclown: You can change it by deed poll - this was actually advice that a member of Arbcom gave me on how to handle my harassment case. Sigh.
[11:05] <mattbuck> when I dream, I dream your fists, your fists, your fists
[11:05] <pleclown> Fae_look_alike: that's a really useful advice.
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[11:07] <pleclown> Fae_look_alike: But I don't live in a common-law country.
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[11:09] <rillke> @seen zhuyifei1999
[11:09] <wm-bot> rillke: Last time I saw zhuyifei1999 they were joining the channel, they are still in the channel #wikimedia-labs-offtopic at 8/21/2013 4:22:27 PM (1h45m55s ago)
[11:09] * rillke thinks wikimedia-labs-offtopic is an interesting channel name
[11:10] <pleclown> rillke: wikimedia-labs iz serious buziness
[11:11] <PierreSelim> rillke: :p
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[11:25] <pleclown> mattbuck: you there ?
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[11:27] <mattbuck> yes?
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[12:33] <bawolff> How often does the description field of the image info template having things outside of a language template ( like {{en|Image description here}})
[12:33] <AsimovBot> [11] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:en
[12:34] <bawolff> More importantly, how often does it mix content where some is in a language template, and some isn't?
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[12:35] <Technical_13> @link
[12:35] <wm-bot> http://enwp.org/Template:en%7cImage_description_here
[12:36] <rillke> bawolff: Something to ask at [[COM:VP]] or finding out by crawling a few pages.
[12:36] <AsimovBot> [12] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:VP?redirect=no - Redirection to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump
[12:37] <pleclown> Is there any Lower-saxons on commons ?
[12:37] <bawolff> rillke: I've been special:random/file 'ing a couple times
[12:38] <rillke> bawolff: I was, for example told, that I should put "Latin" names of flowers not inside {{la|...}} because that would be no real "Latin".
[12:38] <AsimovBot> [13] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:la
[12:38] <darkweasel> pleclown, you speak french natively, right?
[12:39] <darkweasel> can you help out there? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Olivier_Minne_sur_Fort_Boyard_en_2007.jpg
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[12:39] <pleclown> darkweasel: yes, I'm french, and no, I can't. Because I don't know what to do.
[12:40] * bawolff is writing a script that is trying to pick out image descriptions from commons pages. I'm wondering if i should just ignore things outside of the language tag of the target language
[12:40] <darkweasel> perhaps explain that we do delete images when an actual reason for deletion (privacy etc.) has been given, or something like that :/
[12:40] <pleclown> darkweasel: I've already told him that...
[12:41] <darkweasel> ah yeah, i see
[12:42] <pleclown> darkweasel: the best thing is to ignore him
[12:42] <darkweasel> yeah possibly
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[12:44] <rillke> Is bawolff writing something like WikiPic?
[12:45] <rillke> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/wikipic
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[12:48] <rillke> bawolff: If you need a JS-Wiki-DOM parser https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-libWikiDOM.js
[12:50] <rillke> templateZero = mw.libs.wikiDOM.parser.text2Obj( "wiki{{text}}" ).nodesByType.template[0]
[12:50] <AsimovBot> [14] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:text
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[13:33] <bawolff> Sort of similar, (in the getting the metadata) but from the php side
[13:35] <rillke> bawolff: Please provide this as API service.
[13:35] <bawolff> I will (Assuming things work out)
[13:35] <rillke> Oh, great!
[13:36] * rillke sees Rillke removing a lot of code from the slideshow gadget
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[13:41] <Technical_13> @configure default_link_wiki=commons
[13:41] <wm-bot> Value commons was stored into default_link_wiki to config
[13:41] <Technical_13> @link [[User:My76Strat]]
[13:41] <wm-bot> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:My76Strat
[13:41] <AsimovBot> [15] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:My76Strat
[13:42] <Technical_13> AsimovBot: redundant much?
[13:42] <AsimovBot> Error: Command “redundant” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written.
[13:42] <My76Strat> nice thank you
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[13:42] <Technical_13> What else does AsimovBot do?
[13:44] <Technical_13> !help
[13:44] -eir:#wikimedia-commons- Available help topics are: help
[13:44] -eir:#wikimedia-commons- For bantracker documentation see http://freenode.net/eir.shtml
[13:44] <FastLizard4> Ow.
[13:44] <Technical_13> Help is stalkword?
[13:46] <FastLizard4> No, didn't you see eir /notice the channel?
[13:46] <Technical_13> FastLizard4: do you know what else AsimovBot does?
[13:47] <FastLizard4> I've no idea what AsimovBot is, sorry
[13:47] <FastLizard4> I mean, I see it's a bot here
[13:47] <Technical_13> Yeah, I saw it. Figured it was result of !help
[13:47] <FastLizard4> But beyond that fact, /me knows nothing
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[13:47] <bawolff> presumably it predates wm-bot
[13:47] <bawolff> wm-bot seems to get pushed into channels where its not really needed
[13:48] <Technical_13> wm-bot: not needed?! :0
[13:48] <Technical_13> bawolff: what you smoking!
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[14:01] <Nemo_bis> pleclown: it's always amusing how the useless self-made photos uploaded to Commons get used en mass rather quickly :)
[14:02] <darkweasel> you mean like that xilography (if that's the right word in english) of edward snowden?
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[14:02] <Nemo_bis> probably not
[14:02] <darkweasel> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Edward_Snowden_%22Xilograf%C3%ADa%22.jpg
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[14:03] <darkweasel> it was put on even more wikipedias, including eo: where i saw it
[14:03] <darkweasel> (and removed it)
[14:04] <Nemo_bis> so what is wm-bot doing here
[14:04] <Nemo_bis> !
[14:04] <Nemo_bis> !!
[14:04] <bawolff> !!!
[14:04] <darkweasel> C-C-COMBOBREAKER
[14:04] <Nemo_bis> ah, good, it doesn't whine about exclamation marks any longer
[14:04] <Nemo_bis> I hate bot style-policing
[14:05] <Nemo_bis> bawolff: how many days left before the dark day your contract ends?
[14:05] <bawolff> 9 days
[14:05] <Nemo_bis> aww
[14:05] <bawolff> ends on august 30
[14:06] <bawolff> Obviously though I'll still be around in a volunteer capacity
[14:06] <Nemo_bis> http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-commons-admin/
[14:06] <Nemo_bis> sure
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[14:07] * bawolff 's been addicted to wikis in one form or another since 2005. I'm sure I'll be continued to be adicted
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[14:10] <Nemo_bis> i just meant dark day for wmf
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[14:13] <mattbuck> darkweasel, DRed
[14:14] <darkweasel> oh. didn't know it was likely to be a copyvio
[14:21] <mattbuck> everything's a copyvio if you try hard enough
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[14:33] <Qcoder00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sfan00_IMG/Unlikley_Destinations_for_a_photo_trip - How unlikley are some of these?
[14:35] <mattbuck> you want to freeze Johnny Depp?
[14:35] <mattbuck> also I have a photo of Menwith Hill
[14:36] <mattbuck> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mattbuck#Conflict go rip ottava a new one
[14:38] <Qcoder00> There are some typos
[14:38] <Qcoder00> :(
[14:44] <mattbuck> ATTENTION CABAL MEMBERS: OUR SECRET PLAN TO DECRAT RUSSAVIA TO MAINTAIN OUR SECRECY HAS BEEN REVEALED
[14:44] <mattbuck> EVERYONE FOR THEMSELVES
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[14:49] <Fae_look_alike> OMG, I'm going to hide under my desk.
[14:52] * Fae_look_alike Wonders how to program /trollbot/ as a replacement for Ottava Rima when he retires.
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[15:00] <bawolff> mattbuck: If there was a cabal, i feel like it would be trying to keep russavia cratted
[15:02] <mattbuck> ah, that's just we want you to think
[15:03] <mattbuck> by decratting it seems like we're not all powerful, allowing us to maintain the real power because people believe we're powerless
[15:03] <bawolff> ah. Tricky tricky
[15:03] <mattbuck> we're very clever
[15:04] <mattbuck> unlike louisiana republicans, a greater percentage of whom say Obama was to blame for the botched response to Hurricane Katrina than say George Bush was to blame
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[15:39] <Qcoder00> http://archive.org/details/NSACryptologs - Suitable for Commons?
[15:39] <Qcoder00> (It's a full set of a what appears to be an internal NSA technical journal)
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[15:47] <mattbuck> I guess that counts as pd-usgov
[15:49] <Qcoder00> Som degree of transcription redaction might need to be done as there are some places where the text gives away more than is intended.. (like copyright contents of DOS boot sectors..)
[15:50] <Qcoder00> Not found Issue1 in the scans - but it would be reasonable to start with the oldest item...
[15:50] <bawolff> copyright content of DOS boot sectors?!?
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[15:53] <Qcoder00> One of the articles in an issue has a basic guide to how to do disc sector editing
[15:53] <Qcoder00> It includes a sample boot sector as an example...
[15:53] <Qcoder00> (and I can't be sure it's a 'free' one...
[15:54] <Qcoder00> The problem here is a Commons/Wikisource one... not one of 'secrets'
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[15:56] <Qcoder00> Worth suggesting a WikiProject?
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[15:58] <ebraminio> anyone has any clue about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53184 ?
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[16:00] <bawolff> ebraminio: yeah. I'll write on bug report
[16:02] <ebraminio> bawolff: thank you, hope to be fixed soon
[16:02] <bawolff> hmm, actually the cause I thought it was might not be it
[16:05] <bawolff> I'll have to look into it further
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[16:07] <Qcoder00> Hi Dcoetzee
[16:07] <Qcoder00> Do you know if Wlonka is still active?
[16:07] <Qcoder00> &Elonka?
[16:07] <Qcoder00> *Elonka even?
[16:08] <ebraminio> bawolff: hmm, okay, may is it related to any page inside commons?
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[16:54] <ebraminio> bawolff: I am running this http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:MediaWiki_Update_Bot/commonsmwupdate_specific.py for my language
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[17:00] <ebraminio> any bureaucrat here? need a temporary bot flag for user account
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[17:04] <ebraminio> no longer needed :)
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[17:09] <bawolff> ebraminio: for your issue - try looking at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload?uploadformstyle=plain&uselang=qqx and anything in brackets like "(ignorewarnings)" make sure that the page mediawiki:ignorewarnings/fafromflickr exists
[17:16] <ebraminio> bawolff: the bot http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Ignorewarnings/fafromflickr&action=history made it
[17:17] <bawolff> oh hmm, sorry I must have made a mistake when looking for it
[17:17] <bawolff> its not in the prefix index search thingy, which is odd
[17:18] <bawolff> I swear those didn't exist when I was checking them
[17:19] <bawolff> nonetheless its still not showing up, which is weird
[17:20] * bawolff has no idea
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[17:25] <ebraminio> bawolff: no problem, thanks for your time :)
[17:25] <bawolff> I'm hoping that maybe it will fix itself after a day or something
[17:26] <bawolff> Someone like nikerabbit might know
[17:28] <ebraminio> bawolff: Yes I am aware of that, for example this http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Upload-permitted/zhfromflickr applied after two days
[17:28] <ebraminio> but you know... i hope a less hackish solution for it also
[17:29] <bawolff> uploadwizard campaigns maybe (I know nothing about that feature, so that might be a stupid suggestion)
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Session Start: Wed Aug 21 18:45:15 2013
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[18:48] * Topic is 'Wikimedia Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org | Status: See http://status.wikimedia.org | https://twitter.com/wikicommons | For URGENT admin help, say "!admin@commons + your request" | Admin channel: #wikimedia-commons-admin | Vandalism: #cvn-commons and #cvn-commons-uploads | Commons-l: http://bit.ly/commonsMonth'
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[23:52] <mattbuck> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mattbuck#Conflict
[23:52] <mattbuck> SOMEONE
[23:52] <mattbuck> please go and smack that troll
[23:53] <mattbuck> apparently quoting policy on my talk page is now considered being disruptive
[23:55] <mattbuck> that wasn't a rhetorical request
[23:55] <mattbuck> I could really do with someone's help
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