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Barry Kort
====Barry Kort====
Spitting In the Eye of the Bescolder
Spitting In the Eye of the Bescolder
[...] Akahele | In the eye of the beholder (tags: art culture criticism internet wikipedia authorship online intent epistemology) [...]
[...] Akahele | In the eye of the beholder (tags: art culture criticism internet wikipedia authorship online intent epistemology) [...]
Gregory Kohs
====Gregory Kohs====
It may be appropriate at this time for me to take full credit for this artistic edit:
It may be appropriate at this time for me to take full credit for this artistic edit:
Less than 30 hours later, the user account was indefinitely blocked for the crime of “vandalism”. The Wikipedia administrator who issued the block also happens to be a trans-gendered individual (which might suggest a conflict-of-interest surrounding “hip and buttock padding”), but who am I to say?
Less than 30 hours later, the user account was indefinitely blocked for the crime of “vandalism”. The Wikipedia administrator who issued the block also happens to be a trans-gendered individual (which might suggest a conflict-of-interest surrounding “hip and buttock padding”), but who am I to say?
Nihiltres
====Nihiltres====
“If the administrators would put their mops down for a minute and listen to what the trolls are saying, perhaps they might learn something.”
“If the administrators would put their mops down for a minute and listen to what the trolls are saying, perhaps they might learn something.”
P.S.: With all due respect to Mr. Kohs, the picture with the electric knife is hilarious
P.S.: With all due respect to Mr. Kohs, the picture with the electric knife is hilarious
Gregory Kohs
====Gregory Kohs====
Nihiltres is a Wikipedian with whom I’ve sparred (sometimes with less tact than I’d have wished) in various venues on the Internet. However, we have been participating amicably in the Yahoo! Answers forum regarding Wikipedia, for a number of weeks now. I have to say I am building a certain respect for this person, and his 68% “Best Answer” ratio in generating Answers on Yahoo! is simply phenomenal.
Nihiltres is a Wikipedian with whom I’ve sparred (sometimes with less tact than I’d have wished) in various venues on the Internet. However, we have been participating amicably in the Yahoo! Answers forum regarding Wikipedia, for a number of weeks now. I have to say I am building a certain respect for this person, and his 68% “Best Answer” ratio in generating Answers on Yahoo! is simply phenomenal.
If you’re wearing a live chicken on your head, but you insist that it’s a fedora, is it our responsibility to not “disrupt” you from your notions, “behave” ourselves, and try to not be “destructive” in telling you things might not be as they seem to you?
If you’re wearing a live chicken on your head, but you insist that it’s a fedora, is it our responsibility to not “disrupt” you from your notions, “behave” ourselves, and try to not be “destructive” in telling you things might not be as they seem to you?
Paul Wehage
====Paul Wehage====
@Nihiltres, thank you for the compliment about the photo of Mr. Kohs. It’s under his copyright and he very generously agreed to share it with us for the humorous note it gives the article.
@Nihiltres, thank you for the compliment about the photo of Mr. Kohs. It’s under his copyright and he very generously agreed to share it with us for the humorous note it gives the article.
Maybe you need to think about what you’re doing and why because it sure isn’t adding up to “the sum of all human knowledge” with de-facto exclusions such as this.
Maybe you need to think about what you’re doing and why because it sure isn’t adding up to “the sum of all human knowledge” with de-facto exclusions such as this.
Barry Kort
====Barry Kort====
“What’s a reasonable way of dealing with edits designed to be disruptive? What do you suggest is the proper way to react?”
“What’s a reasonable way of dealing with edits designed to be disruptive? What do you suggest is the proper way to react?”
It occurs to me that jumping to a haphazard conclusion about another editor’s intentions is a classic recipe for absurdist drama.
It occurs to me that jumping to a haphazard conclusion about another editor’s intentions is a classic recipe for absurdist drama.
Nihiltres
====Nihiltres====
Rather, I think it is one’s responsibility to not rip the chicken from the person’s head and cook them something like in that picture I found so amusing above. Instead, perhaps merely holding up a mirror will do the trick—if it turns out that the chicken is a pet by the name of Fedora…
Rather, I think it is one’s responsibility to not rip the chicken from the person’s head and cook them something like in that picture I found so amusing above. Instead, perhaps merely holding up a mirror will do the trick—if it turns out that the chicken is a pet by the name of Fedora…
Nihiltres
====Nihiltres====
My previous comment might make less sense than I thought it did, especially in the light of the comments I missed by leaving the window open for a long time. :/
My previous comment might make less sense than I thought it did, especially in the light of the comments I missed by leaving the window open for a long time. :/
*that is, sacrificing those elements which are arguably strengths of Wikipedia, such as open editing. Nupedia’s already been proven to not work.
*that is, sacrificing those elements which are arguably strengths of Wikipedia, such as open editing. Nupedia’s already been proven to not work.
Barry Kort
====Barry Kort====
There are two or three alternative venues that can be used for a serious round-table discussion.
There are two or three alternative venues that can be used for a serious round-table discussion.
Emperor
====Emperor====
Ah the infamous electric knife, with “cheeto-colored beaver teeth”. Good times.
Ah the infamous electric knife, with “cheeto-colored beaver teeth”. Good times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASureFire_M6_Guardian&diff=177094663&oldid=177092001
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASureFire_M6_Guardian&diff=177094663&oldid=177092001
Jon Awbrey
====Jon Awbrey====
It appears that Akahele has quickly, all too quickly reached that old Kierkegaardian Either-Or — it will have to choose Either the response of the conversional aesthete, running the mill from effete to hysterical, Or it will have to convert the moral outrage that is our due into the concerted action that it will take to ameliorate, not celebrate the Absurd.
It appears that Akahele has quickly, all too quickly reached that old Kierkegaardian Either-Or — it will have to choose Either the response of the conversional aesthete, running the mill from effete to hysterical, Or it will have to convert the moral outrage that is our due into the concerted action that it will take to ameliorate, not celebrate the Absurd.
Paul Wehage
====Paul Wehage====
Shouldn’t one first try to examine the underlying patterns and reactions to THE ABSURD in order to find the underlying meaning in all of this? If you haven’t defined the problem, you certainly can’t solve it. An examination of intent seems to be necessary in understanding the dynamics.
Shouldn’t one first try to examine the underlying patterns and reactions to THE ABSURD in order to find the underlying meaning in all of this? If you haven’t defined the problem, you certainly can’t solve it. An examination of intent seems to be necessary in understanding the dynamics.
Jon Awbrey
====Jon Awbrey====
Re: “An examination of intent seems to be necessary in understanding the dynamics.”
Re: “An examination of intent seems to be necessary in understanding the dynamics.”
Just how long do you plan on staring at this particular cobra before you do that?
Just how long do you plan on staring at this particular cobra before you do that?
Paul Wehage
====Paul Wehage====
Well, Mr. Awbrey, why don’t you write a piece about what should be happening? We’re going to be opening up to other contributors pretty soon…
Well, Mr. Awbrey, why don’t you write a piece about what should be happening? We’re going to be opening up to other contributors pretty soon…
Violet Vernon
====Violet Vernon====
If I had a nickel for every time I came to akahele.org! Great read!
If I had a nickel for every time I came to akahele.org! Great read!
