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==Economic realities==
 
==Economic realities==
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A interesting fact is that the article does not mention that Josip Broz and his fellow communist were committing economic suicide in the 1960's and 70's.Factual statements on economic realities of Josip Broz and his fellow Communists:
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A interesting fact is that the article does not mention that Josip Broz and his fellow communist were committing economic suicide in the 1960's and 70's. Credit where credit is due; the Communist party of Yugoslavia did raise the standard of living in the 1960s and 1970s. This was achieved through Western investment,<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=MO0brh8EgdcC&pg=PR16&dq=Keeping+Tito+Afloat:+The+United+States,+Yugoslavia,+and+the+Cold+War+loans&hl=en&ei=0VB2TPu3GMWrcYbigY8G&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=loans&f=false Keeping Tito Afloat by Lorraine M. Lees:] 
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*Tito Afloat draws upon newly declassified documents to show the critical role that Yugoslavia played in U.S. foreign policy with the communist world in the early years of the Cold War. After World War II, the United States considered Yugoslavia to be a loyal Soviet satellite, but Tito surprised the West in 1948 by breaking with Stalin. Seizing this opportunity, the Truman administration sought to "keep Tito afloat" by giving him military and economic aid.</ref> but it was all a short-term solution. Economic problems started with the inflation crisis in 1978 due mainly to Communist mismanagement.
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Factual statements on economic realities of Josip Broz and his fellow Communists:
 
*'''Encyclopaedia Britannica''' states:  
 
*'''Encyclopaedia Britannica''' states:  
 
''"At his death, the state treasury was empty"'' <ref>Encyclopaedia Britannica-History & Society: Josip Broz Tito</ref>
 
''"At his death, the state treasury was empty"'' <ref>Encyclopaedia Britannica-History & Society: Josip Broz Tito</ref>
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'''Note''': Ivo Goldstein is a Professor at the  [http://www.unizg.hr/homepage/ University of Zagreb] & former Director of the Institute for Croatian History of the University of Zagreb. Zagreb is the capital city of Croatia.
 
'''Note''': Ivo Goldstein is a Professor at the  [http://www.unizg.hr/homepage/ University of Zagreb] & former Director of the Institute for Croatian History of the University of Zagreb. Zagreb is the capital city of Croatia.
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=== Testimony-Eye Witness ===
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== Testimony-Eye Witness ==
 
*Mitja Ribicic - ''' Internal Security''' of the Former Yugoslavia:  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kspj_4TcjOQ&feature=related BBC 4]
 
*Mitja Ribicic - ''' Internal Security''' of the Former Yugoslavia:  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kspj_4TcjOQ&feature=related BBC 4]
 
*Janez Stanovnik -  [[Slovenia|Slovenian]] Politician & Economist/Former '''Yugoslav Partizan''' Commander.  
 
*Janez Stanovnik -  [[Slovenia|Slovenian]] Politician & Economist/Former '''Yugoslav Partizan''' Commander.  
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*Vera Winter  – Economist/Political prisoner of the former Yugoslavia's most notorious prison, Goli Otok: [[BBC|BBC 4]]
 
*Vera Winter  – Economist/Political prisoner of the former Yugoslavia's most notorious prison, Goli Otok: [[BBC|BBC 4]]
 
* Alfred Pal - Artist/Political prisoner of the former Yugoslavia's most notorious prison, Goli Otok: BBC 4
 
* Alfred Pal - Artist/Political prisoner of the former Yugoslavia's most notorious prison, Goli Otok: BBC 4
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===== British Government representative =====
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*Frank Waddams a British Government representative who had lived outside of Belgrade, said:
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*Frank Waddams-'''British Government''' <ref>[http://www.mp.gov.si/fileadmin/mp.gov.si/pageuploads/2005/PDF/publikacije/Crimes_committed_by_Totalitarian_Regimes.pdf European Commission/Slovenian Presidency of the-EU 2008] Crimes Committed by Totalitarian Regimes  Appendices/Appendix A: Foreign office documents on the 1947 show trial:
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{{Cquote|''He knew first hand of ten concentration camps and had talked with inmates from nearly all of them. “ The tale is always the same, he said “ Starvation, overcrowding, brutality and death condition, which make Dachau and Buchenwald mild by comparison. Many Slovenes who were released from Dachau at the end of the war came home only to find themselves in a Slovene camp within a few days. It is from these people that the news has come that the camps are worse than Dachau.” Out of a Slovene population of 1,200,000, Waddams believes that 20,000 to 30,000 were imprisoned.''<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=N1j1QdPMockC&pg=PA354&lpg=PA354&dq=Frank+Waddams,+a+British+representative+who+had+lived+outside+of+Belgrade&source=bl&ots=0ogZwcLZau&sig=fTZXy1TLYBQBJnbyYCoeyZ61ABw&hl=en&ei=e13IStXNJZiQ6APPjMXKDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=Frank%20Waddams%2C%20%20British%20representative%20who%20had%20lived%20outside%20of%20Belgrade&f=false Frank Waddams, a British representative in the former Yugoslavia] Death by Government by R. J. Rummel.Page 354. </ref>}}
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*British Consulate, Ljubljana to British Ambassador Belgrade, 22 August 1947- concerning post World War Two political trials:
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* From Foreign Office to Belgrade, 15 August 1947  '''Waddams''', vice-consul Ljubljana 1945, considers he may be the diplomatic representative referred to in the trial, as both Furlan and Sirc were the only people who helped him to get the Ljubljana consulate going when he first opened it. He considers this the probable reason for their sentence.  
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{{Cquote|''A brief reading of the newspaper reports, however, will suffice to make it clear that the trial was first and foremost a gigantic political propaganda stunt whose double aim was first to show Britain and America as the irreconcilable enemies of the new Yugoslavia, and second, finally to frighten off anyone who might still think that it is possible to associate with officials of the Western countries and get away with it.''<ref>Crimes committed by totalitarian regimes  Appendices/Appendix A: Foreign office documents on the 1947 show trial:
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*British Consulate, Ljubljana to British Ambassador Belgrade, 22 August 1947:
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:A brief reading of the newspaper reports, however, will suffice to make it clear that the trial was first and foremost a gigantic political propaganda stunt whose double aim was first to show Britain and America as the irreconcilable enemies of the new Yugoslavia, and second, finally to frighten off anyone who might still think that it is possible to associate with officials of the Western countries and get away with it. </ref> (taken from R. J. Rummel: Death by Government)<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=N1j1QdPMockC&pg=PA354&lpg=PA354&dq=Frank+Waddams,+a+British+representative+who+had+lived+outside+of+Belgrade&source=bl&ots=0ogZwcLZau&sig=fTZXy1TLYBQBJnbyYCoeyZ61ABw&hl=en&ei=e13IStXNJZiQ6APPjMXKDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=Frank%20Waddams%2C%20%20British%20representative%20who%20had%20lived%20outside%20of%20Belgrade&f=false Frank Waddams, a British representative in the former Yugoslavia] Death by Government by R. J. Rummel.Page 354. </ref>
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{{Cquote|''Frank Waddams, a British representative who had lived outside of Belgrade, said he knew first hand of ten “concentration camps” and had talked with inmates from nearly all of them: “The tale is always the same, he said “ Starvation, overcrowding, brutality and death condition, which make Dachau and Buchenwald mild by comparison. Many Slovenes who were released from Dachau at the end of the war came home only to find themselves in a Slovene camp within a few days. It is from these people that the news has come that the camps are worse than Dachau.” Out of a Slovene population of 1,200,000, Waddams believes that 20,000 to 30,000 were imprisoned."}}
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* From Foreign Office to Belgrade, 15 August 1947  '''Waddams''', vice-consul Ljubljana 1945, considers he may be the diplomatic representative referred to in the trial, as both Furlan and Sirc were the only people who helped him to get the Ljubljana consulate going when he first opened it. He considers this the probable reason for their sentence.  </ref> }}
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
* [http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/09/world/evolution-in-europe-piles-of-bones-in-yugoslavia-point-to-partisan-massacres.html?pagewanted=all New York Times:] Evolution in Europe; Piles of Bones in Yugoslavia Point to Partisan Massacres.  
 
* [http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/09/world/evolution-in-europe-piles-of-bones-in-yugoslavia-point-to-partisan-massacres.html?pagewanted=all New York Times:] Evolution in Europe; Piles of Bones in Yugoslavia Point to Partisan Massacres.  
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* '''Ian Cuthbertson''' review of ''Tito's Ghosts'' on [http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/balkans-hero-with-a-bloodthirsty-streak/story-e6frg8mf-1111117435895 www.theaustralian.com.au]
 
* '''Ian Cuthbertson''' review of ''Tito's Ghosts'' on [http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/balkans-hero-with-a-bloodthirsty-streak/story-e6frg8mf-1111117435895 www.theaustralian.com.au]
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{{Cquote|Josip Broz Tito, the hard man who managed to unite Yugoslavia after World War II, has long been regarded as somehow less awful than his fellow communist leaders. This French documentary makes it clear that even now, after Yugoslavia has disintegrated (mostly chaotically), Tito is still adored by some in the Balkans, with festivals commemorating his birthday and enthusiasts kissing his statue and declaring their love for him.
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{{Cquote| '''a.''' Josip Broz Tito, the hard man who managed to unite Yugoslavia after World War II, has long been regarded as somehow less awful than his fellow communist leaders. This French documentary makes it clear that even now, after Yugoslavia has disintegrated (mostly chaotically), Tito is still adored by some in the Balkans, with festivals commemorating his birthday and enthusiasts kissing his statue and declaring their love for him.
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Turned back from Austria by the Allies and handed over to Tito's forces, they were executed in the woods without trial. Investigations in Slovenia have found evidence to suggest the dead were naked, or partly naked, and tied with wire when they were killed.The graves' existence was an open secret for decades, yet they were not documented and not commonly discussed.  
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'''b.''' Turned back from Austria by the Allies and handed over to Tito's forces, they were executed in the woods without trial. Investigations in Slovenia have found evidence to suggest the dead were naked, or partly naked, and tied with wire when they were killed.The graves' existence was an open secret for decades, yet they were not documented and not commonly discussed.  
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Yet Tito, internationally feted unifier of Yugoslavia, wrought violence on many fronts. His purges were merciless, and his forces rounded up thousands of suspected opponents and sent them to a prison on Goli Otok (Barren Island) where they were beaten, tortured and killed.}}
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'''c.''' Yet Tito, internationally feted unifier of Yugoslavia, wrought violence on many fronts. His purges were merciless, and his forces rounded up thousands of suspected opponents and sent them to a prison on Goli Otok (Barren Island) where they were beaten, tortured and killed.}}
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
* [[Top 10 Reasons Not to Donate to Wikipedia]]
 
* [[Top 10 Reasons Not to Donate to Wikipedia]]
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*Zdravko Dizdar (Croatian Historian/Croatian Institute for History in Zagreb): Partisan and Communist Repression and Atrocities in Croatia, 1944th-1946th - Documents/[http://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=27516&lang=en Hrcak Portal of Scientific Journals of Croatia.]  
 
*Zdravko Dizdar (Croatian Historian/Croatian Institute for History in Zagreb): Partisan and Communist Repression and Atrocities in Croatia, 1944th-1946th - Documents/[http://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=27516&lang=en Hrcak Portal of Scientific Journals of Croatia.]  
 
*Mentioning the War: Genocide discussions in post-Tito Yugoslavia ''by'' Tea Sindbaek  [http://folk.uio.no/palk/Dubrovnik/Tea%20Sindbaek%20-%20essay.htm#_ftnref15 ''Link'']  
 
*Mentioning the War: Genocide discussions in post-Tito Yugoslavia ''by'' Tea Sindbaek  [http://folk.uio.no/palk/Dubrovnik/Tea%20Sindbaek%20-%20essay.htm#_ftnref15 ''Link'']  
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==External links==
 
==External links==
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Broz_Tito Wikipedia: Dictator Josip Broz Tito]
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Broz_Tito Wikipedia: Dictator Josip Broz Tito]
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