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| − | == Peter Z's Notes ==
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| − | The claims cited in the ''While Visiting the Croatia Coast'' (below) statement is news to me. I'm researching its content (I've started to add references to it). So far it seems to me to be not too far from the truth, however more research (maybe a few years) is needed.
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| − | *''Firstly'' I have problems with population stats.
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| − | * ''Secondly'' it appears to me that the region has problems with interpreting multicultural and ''multiethnic'' history (& societies).
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| − | [[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 09:51, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | '''Latin'''/Illyrian/Slavic communities history of the historic ''Republic of Ragusa'' '''&''' ''Republic of Venice'' became a political football for the former Communist Yugoslavia.
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| − | * Republic of Ragusa was set up by Latin/Illyrian families.
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| − | * Republic of Venice was set up by Latin families.
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| − | (Venice acquired Slavic & other Latin populations through conquering)
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| − | Slavic communities later became part of these City States, which later became Republics.
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| − | Famous mixed marriages within these communities :
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| − | * Roger Joseph Boskovich (Republic of Ragusa)
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| − | * Fausto Veranzio (Republic of Venice)
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| − | Parents were [[Italy|Italian]] & Croatian.
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| − | Austro-Hungarian census '''1816''' registered: 66 000 Italian speaking people among the 301 000 inhabitants of Dalmatia.
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| − | (ref from: Montani, Carlo. Venezia Giulia, Dalmazia - Sommario Storico - An Historical Outline)
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| − | [[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 03:59, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ===Republic of Ragusa===
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| − | ''Republic of Ragusa'' was set up by Latin/Illyrian families. The Republic's city, Ragusa (today called Dubrovnik) was established in the 7th century, post Slavic and Avar invasions. The refugees from Epidaurum (a Roman city) built the settlement in Dalmatia, today in southernmost modern Croatia. Over the centuries the City State-Ragusa started to have relations with the Slavic hinterland, then called Red Croatia<ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=eaq90_BOvqIC&pg=PA119&dq=Andrea+Dandolo+Venetian+author+Chronicle+of+Dalmatia+Red+Croatia&client=safari&cd=2#v=onepage&q=Andrea%20Dandolo%20Venetian%20author%20Chronicle%20of%20Dalmatia%20Red%20Croatia&f=false Byzantium's Balkan Frontier:] A Political Study of the Northern Balkans, 900-1204 by Paul Stephenson </ref><ref>Presbyter Diocleas: De Regno Sclavorum; Ioannes Lucius: De Regno Dalmatie et Croatiae (Amsterdam 1666) 287-302; Schwandtner Scriptores Rerum Hungaricarum III (Vienna) 174; Sl. Mijušković: Letopis Popa Dukljanina-1967)</ref><ref>Flavius Blondus: Historiarum ab Inclinatione Romani Imperii, dec II, lib II (Venetiae 1483, f. 115 r; ed Basilea 1559) 177.</ref><ref>Andrea Dandolo (1300-1354), the Venetian author of Chronicle of Dalmatia, who writes of Croatian lands (Dalmatian Kingdom), reiterated the boundaries of Red Croatia</ref> (this term for the region ceased to be used from the 11th century onwards). Ragusa itself became an independent state in 1358.
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| − | The Croatians (Slavs), some time in the middle ages started to be part of the Republic's population. There is a theory that the Croatisation of the region started to happen in the 19-century, with the Republic becoming part of the [[Austria|Austro-Hungarian]] Empire (then called the Habsburg Monarchy). The second theory is that it was much earlier. The 1667 Dubrovnik earthquake,<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=vwK4jhvjHQkC&pg=PA86&dq=dubrovnik+earthquake+of+1667&client=safari&cd=1#v=onepage&q=dubrovnik%20earthquake%20of%201667&f=false Earthquake Monitoring and Seismic Hazard Mitigation in Balkan Countries] by Eystein Sverre Husebye</ref> which destroyed the greater part of Dubrovnik has been cited as a turning point for the Republic's ethnic population make up.
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| − | In John Van Antwerp Fine's book ''"When Ethnicity did not Matter in the Balkans"'' the population of the Republic in the 15-century was describe as mainly Slavic. This is very plausible, (that by the 15 century) the surrounding area of the city of Dubrovnik, the Slavs would have been in the majority.<ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=p3oGybOY1w4C&pg=PA141&lpg=PA141&dq=identity+in+dubrovnik&source=bl&ots=d90RrUeZKC&sig=Go7muOWSJwxT5CiJZJX8i0FaC0Q&hl=en&ei=XtlMTNnEN4eiuQOPkbS7Cg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=identity%20in%20dubrovnik&f=false When ethnicity did not matter in the Balkans: ] by John Van Antwerp Fine</ref>
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| − | ''Editor's notes'': It's quite possible that the Republic was for centuries a multicultural and ''multiethnic'' society! It's ruling class were of mostly of Latin decent, but not all!
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| − | [[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 01:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ==Korcula==
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| − | ''Signor Arneri" stated:
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| − | :"These three pears you see on the wall," said he, "are the arms of my family. Perussich was the name, when, in the earlier part of the fifteenth century, my ancestors built this palace; so that, you see, I am Dalmatian. All the family, fathers, sons, and brothers, used to serve in the fleets of the Republic (Republic of Venice); but the hero of our race was '''Arneri Perussich''' (Arnerius Peruzzi), whose statue you see there, who fought, bled, and died at the ''Siege of Candia'', whose memory was honoured by the Republic, and whose surviving family was liberally pensioned; so his name of our race. We became Arneri, and ceased to be Perussich"<ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=LUFlza-oCV0C&pg=PA164&dq=These+three+pears+you+see+on+the+wall,%22+said+he,+%22are+the+arms+of+my+family.+Perussich+was+the+name,&hl=en&ei=Q2NCTNiSCJLqvQO8y9DIDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=These%20three%20pears%20you%20see%20on%20the%20wall%2C%22%20said%20he%2C%20%22are%20the%20arms%20of%20my%20family.%20Perussich%20was%20the%20name%2C&f=false Researches on the Danube and the Adriatic:] By Andrew Archibald Paton. Chapter 4. The Dalmatian Archipelago.p164
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| − | * Andrew Archibald Paton (1811-1874) was a British diplomat and writer from the 19 century.</ref>
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| − | According to Marinko Gjivoje, Perussich is ''Piruzović''''.<ref>Otok Korčula (2nd edition) by [http://esperanto.net/literaturo/autor/gjivoje.html Marinko Gjivoje], Zagreb 1969.
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| − | *The book outlines A-Z about the island of Korcula, from traditions, history, culture to wildlife, politics & geography. Page 46-47: ''Piruzović ''. </ref>
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| − | '''Naski''': Naski (ours) or Illirskee ia a Slavonic Dialect. Taken'' from'' Dalmatia and Montenegro: With a Journey to Mostar in Herzegovina by John Gardner Wilkinson. Published in 1848 (p33). <ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=K7oAAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA256&dq=Statute+of+Curzola+korcula&hl=en&ei=ZAtdTJ7lF5ivcI-m3NsO&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CEMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=naski&f=false Dalmatia and Montenegro:] With a Journey to Mostar in Herzegovina by [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/John_Gardner_Wilkinson.jpg Sir John Gardner Wilkinson]
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| − | * Sir John Gardner Wilkinson (October 5, 1797 – October 29, 1875) was an English traveller, writer and pioneer Egyptologist of the 19th century. He is often referred to as "the Father of British Egyptology".</ref>
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| − | ''Editors notes'': Naski or Naški ''(Blato was called Blatta)''
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| − | == When ethnicity did not matter in the Balkans: a study of identity in pre ... By John Van Antwerp Fine ==
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| − | *[http://books.google.com/books?id=p3oGybOY1w4C&pg=PA62&dq=When+ethnicity+did+not+matter+in+the+Balkans++John+Van+Antwerp+Fine++Slavonic+Neretljani&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false Neretljani]
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| − | * [http://books.google.com/books?id=p3oGybOY1w4C&pg=PA30&dq=When+ethnicity+did+not+matter+in+the+Balkans++John+Van+Antwerp+Fine++Slavonic+Neretljani&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false Contradict himself]
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| − | *[http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/de-administrando-imperio/parts-about-croats-and-serbs.html spiritus-temporis.com]
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| | == While Visiting the Croatia Coast== | | == While Visiting the Croatia Coast== |
| | While visiting the '''Croatia''' coast (Dalmatia) of the Adriatic Sea, western journalists usually admire her ancient towns. They notice almost everywhere that the regional architecture is “heavily influenced” by a “Venetian” flavour. Years ago, a famous chef posing in front of a XVI century Dalmatian building for a documentary, claimed that its architecture was “quintessentially Croatian“. In the past, certain Western writers were almost convinced (and disgusted) that Croatians “imitated” Venetian and Italian Renaissance architecture in building Dalmatian towns. | | While visiting the '''Croatia''' coast (Dalmatia) of the Adriatic Sea, western journalists usually admire her ancient towns. They notice almost everywhere that the regional architecture is “heavily influenced” by a “Venetian” flavour. Years ago, a famous chef posing in front of a XVI century Dalmatian building for a documentary, claimed that its architecture was “quintessentially Croatian“. In the past, certain Western writers were almost convinced (and disgusted) that Croatians “imitated” Venetian and Italian Renaissance architecture in building Dalmatian towns. |
