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==Cities & States==
 
==Cities & States==
 
I don't think [http://www.centiare.com/index.php?title=Directory:Gregory_J._Kohs&diff=prev&oldid=4545 this] is a good edit.  First, the likelihood that particular governments of cities are going to step into Centiare anytime soon is limited.  So, why not leave cities, for the time being, in Main space?  Furthermore, even when city governments take ownership of the space, I thought it will be entitled <nowiki>[[Directory:City of Jackson, Michigan]]</nowiki>, not <nowiki>[[Directory:Jackson, Michigan]]</nowiki>.  The government can't/shouldn't take ownership of the history, geography, economy, and personal experiences that are related to the city.  Final note -- we can't just make Directory or Main space articles for "Jackson", and just assume that will be the ONLY Jackson (the one in Michigan).  There are Jacksons in Tennessee and Mississippi, and probably a good number of other states. --[[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 18:39, 18 December 2006 (PST)
 
I don't think [http://www.centiare.com/index.php?title=Directory:Gregory_J._Kohs&diff=prev&oldid=4545 this] is a good edit.  First, the likelihood that particular governments of cities are going to step into Centiare anytime soon is limited.  So, why not leave cities, for the time being, in Main space?  Furthermore, even when city governments take ownership of the space, I thought it will be entitled <nowiki>[[Directory:City of Jackson, Michigan]]</nowiki>, not <nowiki>[[Directory:Jackson, Michigan]]</nowiki>.  The government can't/shouldn't take ownership of the history, geography, economy, and personal experiences that are related to the city.  Final note -- we can't just make Directory or Main space articles for "Jackson", and just assume that will be the ONLY Jackson (the one in Michigan).  There are Jacksons in Tennessee and Mississippi, and probably a good number of other states. --[[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 18:39, 18 December 2006 (PST)
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:While admittedly a little tenuous, I disagree on all counts:
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:# All incorporated cities (thereby qualifying for Directory status), no matter how small, have some sort of Web page or city directory. For example, we did a road trip last summer through the Midwest, and little towns with populations under 5k had info sites. Bigger cities definitely have tie-ins to their visitor bureaus or CofCs. So to say that they can't or shouldn't have control is incorrect.
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:# I think naming conventions should always be the name first, then any qualifying information. For example, Directory:Jackson, Michigan. Right now, we only have the one Jackson, so I guess I got lazy.
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:# Once we have multiple listings (cities and otherwise), such as Jackson, this will entail the creation of disambiguation pages no different than WP.
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:When in doubt as to placement, think about the entity rule. Even though it may seem non-intuitive, at first, to place governments in the Directory namespace, at the end of the day, these public entities most definitely have ''pride of ownership'' about their towns and are possessive about their economics, history, etc.
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:I guess we can monitor the situation if users post info to the Main page for places like NYC, but then again, when does it fall under the purview of the visitor&conference bureau? The whole point of the Directory is for APOV - you don't think cities want to sell & advocate their towns? [[User:Centiare|Centiare]] 07:33, 19 December 2006 (PST)
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