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Session Start: Tue Nov 29 14:53:40 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
�03[14:53] * Now talking in #wikipedia-en
�03[14:53] * Topic is 'English Wikipedia: | Status: Up ( | Channel guidelines: | Channel operator: Ask in #wikimedia-ops or say !ops followed by the request | For urgent admin help, say !admin followed by the request | No public logging | Cloak requests: | ArbCom voting is open:�'
�03[14:53] * Set by slakr!koder@wikipedia/slakr on Tue Nov 29 10:39:02
[14:53] #wikipedia-en url is
�12[14:53] -ChanServ- [#wikipedia-fr] Canal en UTF-8. La diffusion publique de journaux de ce canal est interdite. Merci de lire et de contribuer à la bonne humeur du canal. Bonne journée !
�08[14:54] <derp> Fluffernutter, feeling better?
[14:54] <Fluffernutter> yeah
�08[14:54] * derp gives Fluffernutter plenty more of chicken soup
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[15:01] <Miss_Manzana> Hello
�08[15:01] <derp> yes helo
[15:02] <Miss_Manzana> is there a problem with #cvn-wp-en?
[15:02] <Miss_Manzana> I can't see any recent changes at all :(
�08[15:04] <derp> Alternatively, you can really check the raw recent changes at
�08[15:04] <derp> grrrr
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�08[15:04] <derp> no ipv6 support there
�08[15:04] <derp> :P
�08[15:04] <derp> #en.wikipedia
�08[15:04] <derp> there
�08[15:04] <derp> :)
�08[15:04] <derp> beware, it's fast :P
[15:05] <Miss_Manzana> the channel is invite only, I cannot join it
�08[15:06] <derp> Miss_Manzana, not on this network :) On the :)
[15:07] <petan> derp: that's probably not what they want...
[15:07] <petan> :P
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[15:09] <PeterSymonds> Miss_Manzana, fixed, thanks.
[15:09] <Miss_Manzana> Thank you, PeterSymonds :)
[15:10] <Miss_Manzana> so that was the problem, I needed voice...
[15:10] <PeterSymonds> No, the bot died.
[15:10] <PeterSymonds> I restarted it.
[15:10] <Miss_Manzana> oh, I see
[15:10] <Fluffernutter> is that like "the rabbit died"?
[15:10] <PeterSymonds> Yes.
�08[15:12] <derp> okay ta, petan n PeterSymonds <3
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[15:12] <PeterSymonds> np derpy.
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�06[15:13] * Fluffernutter tackles sonia
[15:13] <sonia> Fluffernutter :D
�06[15:14] * sonia snuggles Fluffernutter
[15:15] <bep> hi derp
[15:15] <bep> how're you
�08[15:16] <derp> good you?
�08[15:16] * derp hugs sonia
�06[15:16] * sonia pets derp.
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[15:16] <bep> yeah i'm ok
[15:17] <bep> could be better but i'm putting someone else first :)
�08[15:19] * derp huggles Fluffernutter
[15:20] <Nascar1996> Any here juggle?
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[15:20] <PeterSymonds> Why, starting a circus?
�03[15:20] * worm_that_turned (~worm_that@wikipedia/Worm-That-Turned) has joined #wikipedia-en
�06[15:21] * petan huggles Nascar1996
�08[15:21] <derp> Nascar1996, can juggle.
�08[15:21] <derp> i can
�06[15:21] * petan huggles derp
[15:21] <Nascar1996> WVU's band is soo awesome.
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[15:27] <Steven_Zhang> good morning
[15:28] <worm_that_turned> Nah, it's dark out. Good evening :)
[15:28] <juboubuntu> g'evening
[15:28] <Steven_Zhang> lies.
[15:28] <Fluffernutter> good afternoon
[15:28] <Steven_Zhang> well, it is dark out
[15:28] <Steven_Zhang> but thats cos its raining
[15:28] <worm_that_turned> ha!
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[15:31] <Steven_Zhang> my bottom hurts. stupid train seats >_>
[15:31] <Steven_Zhang> howdy BewareofDoug
[15:31] <Steven_Zhang> tommorris: howdy
[15:31] <PeterSymonds> Steven_Zhang travels Cattle Class.
[15:32] <Steven_Zhang> cattle class?
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[15:32] <Steven_Zhang> dude on our trains, there are two classes.
[15:32] <Steven_Zhang> sitting or standing up :P
[15:32] <PeterSymonds> Never mind.
[15:32] <juboubuntu> Steven_Zhang: where were you from again ?
[15:32] <Steven_Zhang> australia
[15:32] <Steven_Zhang> PeterSymonds over here loves haggis
[15:33] <PeterSymonds> I've never tried it. I'd probably try it, just to say I've tried it.
[15:33] <PeterSymonds> And I'll probably hate it too.
[15:33] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[15:33] <Steven_Zhang> well it is a bunch of sheep organs cooked in its stomach. Hardly sounds appetising
�06[15:33] * Steven_Zhang really must start his study today
[15:34] <Steven_Zhang> >_>
[15:34] <PeterSymonds> Yeah but then you see what goes into sausages and stuff.
[15:35] <Steven_Zhang> eh, not really
[15:35] <Steven_Zhang> I like sausages
[15:35] <Steven_Zhang> with tomato sauce and american mustard :P
[15:35] <sonia> om nom nom
[15:35] <PeterSymonds> My point is that we like stuff, but don't necessarily want to know what goes in them.
[15:36] <Pharos> what is american muistard?
[15:36] <Steven_Zhang> Well, i think we know what goes in haggis
[15:36] <Pharos> is it the very yellow stuff?
[15:36] <sonia> yep.
[15:36] <Pharos> as an american, i am curious
[15:36] <sonia> it's like, as opposed to wholegrain mustard
[15:36] <Steven_Zhang> Well, mustard is yellow, yes..
[15:37] <sonia> or mustard, the vegetable
[15:37] <Steven_Zhang> lol.
[15:37] <sonia> or chinese mustard
[15:37] <sonia> etc.
[15:37] <Steven_Zhang> Pharos, one would assume you just call it "mustard" :P
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[15:37] <sonia> do the french call "french fries" just fries then?
[15:38] <Pharos> it is but one of the wonderful variety of fine American mustards
[15:38] <sonia> ...or for that matter "french kissing" just kissing?
[15:38] <Pharos> personally i prefer
[15:38] <juboubuntu> sonia: French and Belges call fries "frites"
[15:38] <BewareofDoug> Oh howdy Steven_Zhang - sorry I wasn't paying attention
[15:39] <Steven_Zhang> That english mustard
[15:39] <Steven_Zhang> burns your nose hairs off
[15:39] <juboubuntu> Moutarde de Dijon is a great mustard
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�06[15:39] * sonia seconds juboubuntu  on that one
[15:39] <juboubuntu> made since the 1700's IIRC
[15:40] <Steven_Zhang>
[15:40] <Steven_Zhang> ^that is american mustard
[15:40] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[15:40] <Steven_Zhang> Lol
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[15:40] <Steven_Zhang> brb
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[15:42] <BewareofDoug> juboubuntu: Germans do too, Pommes frites, which is kinda odd, since the words are French
[15:43] <BewareofDoug> Really odd, since a potato in German is not a Pomme but a Kartoffel
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[15:45] <sonia> Kartoffelsalat.
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[15:48] <juboubuntu> sauerkraut is really nice if you cook it to mellow down the edgyness
[15:48] <juboubuntu> coleslaw is one great USian invention
�03[15:48] * Miss_Manzana (~Miss_Manz@wikimedia/Miss-Manzana) has left #wikipedia-en
[15:48] <bep> coleslaw is american?
[15:49] <sonia> I love coleslaw.
[15:49] <juboubuntu> bep: I dunno not know but have always assumet
[15:49] <BewareofDoug> some Sauerkraut can taste almost sweet and Blaukraut very much so
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[15:53] <petan> wow so many people huggling now...
[15:53] <Excirial> Which is a good thing, if you ask me
[15:53] <petan> definitely, I like to see it
[15:54] <Excirial> Though it would be a lot more effective if Huggle would have a central server distributing batches of edits.
[15:54] <petan> that's something we work on
[15:54] <Excirial> Right now, we have 10 people looking at the same non-vandalism diffs 10 times
[15:54] <Guerillero> i need to jump on guggle
[15:54] <Guerillero> huggle*
[15:54] <petan> huggle 3 would co operate with other clients
[15:54] <Excirial> Really Petan? :D
[15:54] <Excirial> :O
�06[15:54] * sonia is way too slow reacting for huggling.
[15:54] <Excirial> That has been on my wishlist for Huggle since.. 2009 or so?
[15:54] <Guerillero> i guess that its becuse the bots are down
[15:54] <petan> heh
[15:55] <petan> actually it should be able to detect vandalism and sort it to top of queue
[15:55] <Excirial> Please, do explain a buit. How will it work? :)
[15:55] <petan> using central server as you mentioned
[15:55] <sonia>
[15:55] <juboubuntu> I just did my first ginger dish just the other day .. I grated raw ginger, added fried chicken fillet cuts, coconut cream, garlic, spinach and lime :)
[15:55] <Excirial> Distributing batches of edits to editors?
[15:55] <petan> there should be system similar to cluebot's it would have self learning algoritm which would communicate with people using huggle
[15:55] <Excirial> With only a maximum amount of overlap? IE: 1 edit, max 3 editors?
[15:56] <Qcoder00> Sonia: That username is inappropriate
[15:56] <juboubuntu> Qcoder00: way inappropriate
[15:56] <Guerillero> UAA it
[15:56] <petan> depends how complicated it would be, maybe we drop autodetection for beginning
[15:56] <sonia> Qcoder00: yes, block plz.
�06[15:56] * Qcoder00 not admin
[15:56] <sonia> huh
[15:56] <Excirial> No ned, hardblocked.
[15:56] <sonia> fully assumed you were
[15:56] <Qcoder00> ROFL
[15:56] <Qcoder00> 'With my reputation? ' XD
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[15:57] <Excirial> .. and that sounds kind of wrong in that context.
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[15:57] <Excirial> By the way - petan - might also be an interesting feature. Allowing the central server to log reverts and forward them to Cobi for cluebot's dataset.
[15:57] <sonia> I'm not up with ANI and that sort of stuff :p
[15:57] <sonia> Excirial: that's a really good idea
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[15:57] <petan> that's what we also wanted to do but I can't get in touch with staffers of bot
[15:58] <Excirial> Aye, Cobi seem a bit hard to reach somehow.
[15:58] <petan> hey Maryana
[15:58] <Excirial> He is idling in #wikimedia-tech though
[15:58] <Maryana> hey petan. what's all this bot talk?
[15:58] <petan> indeed
[15:58] <petan> that's another bot :)
[15:58] <Maryana> ah, ok
[15:58] <Demiurge1000> jorm: It seems you're no longer notable :(
[15:58] <Maryana> my eye sees bot and gets excited
[15:59] <petan> he's apparently in #huggle too
[15:59] <petan> not now...
[15:59] <Maryana> cobi?
[15:59] <petan> but usualy he is
[15:59] <petan> yes
[15:59] <Excirial> Operator of cluebot NG
[15:59] <Maryana> oh, i know cobi :)
[15:59] <Maryana> or, i should say, i know *of* him
[15:59] <petan> oh yes he is there
[15:59] <petan> I forgot he's not voiced
[16:00] <Qcoder00> Why on earth do people think I am an admin?
[16:00] <Qcoder00> I am just a rathe persistent file gnome
[16:00] <jorm> oh?  did i get deleted?
[16:00] <Fluffernutter> you had no assertion of importance, i'm afraid
[16:00] <Maryana> #huggle
[16:00] <petan> jorm: ?
[16:00] <Maryana> oops
[16:00] <Maryana> wrong window
[16:00] <Maryana> haha
[16:00] <petan> who deleted you
[16:00] <Fluffernutter> me
[16:00] <jorm> aw. i was deleted by fluffernutter, even.
[16:00] <petan> yay
�06[16:00] * Fluffernutter hides
[16:00] <Excirial> Hmmm, his last edit was 3 hours ago, on commons
�06[16:00] * petan slaps Fluffernutter :P
[16:01] <Fluffernutter> but srsly. Textbook A7
[16:01] <Qcoder00> Fluffernutter:  Evening
[16:01] <Fluffernutter> hiya
[16:01] <Guerillero> you're that programer?
[16:02] <Fluffernutter> jorm is teh awesomez
[16:02] <Demiurge1000> Hmm, maybe I shouldn't have taken off the {{underconstruction}} template :S
[16:02] <Fluffernutter> underconstruction or not, it sat for most of a day without any assertion of importance
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[16:03] <Nascar1996> Steven.
[16:03] <Demiurge1000> Good, I can stop feeling guilty then :)
[16:04] <Fluffernutter> sigma ought to have known better
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[16:04] <Steven_Zhang> Nascar1996: Yes?
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[16:05] <juboubuntu> Steven_Zhang: aren't you like like you were gong to the bed ..?
[16:06] <Nascar1996> ?
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[16:06] <Steven_Zhang> Timotheus_Canens: hmNo.
[16:06] <Steven_Zhang> oops
[16:06] <Steven_Zhang> juboubuntu: no
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[16:06] <Steven_Zhang> brb is brb
[16:06] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[16:06] <juboubuntu> indeed it is dear sir
[16:07] <Steven_Zhang> I wasnt going to bed :P
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[16:07] <Steven_Zhang> since it's 8am and I am at work, it'd be inappropriate.
�06[16:07] * Fluffernutter is going insane, does that count?
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[16:10] <_trollface_> yes, Fluffernutter, Panyd wil help you
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[16:10] <sonia> ...ew?
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[16:14] <Steven_Zhang> Howdy Pesky
�06[16:18] * Smegma derps sonia so hard that she's overderped.
[16:18] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[16:18] <sonia> o_O
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[16:18] <Fluffernutter> goodness me
�06[16:18] * Smegma overderps Fluffernutter 
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[16:20] <Qcoder00> What is derping?
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[16:21] <Guerillero> no idea
[16:21] <Pesky> Howdy Steven_Zhang
[16:22] <Qcoder00> Evening Pesky
[16:22] <Pesky> Fluffernutter:  what do you mean "going" insane?!
[16:22] <Fluffernutter> <_<
�06[16:22] * Fluffernutter tackles Pesky
[16:22] <sonia> aww
[16:22] <Pesky> You mean you;ve been suffering from delusions of sanity all this time?
[16:22] <Qcoder00> Pesky, Sonia, Fluffernutter...   One more and you can form a coven ;)
�06[16:22] * Pesky tacklehugs sonia and Fluffernutter 
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�08[16:22] Clones detected from Wikipedia/Steven-Zhang:�8 Steven_Zhang Steven_Zhang_
[16:22] <Pesky> and Qcoder00 and Steven_Zhang
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[16:23] <Smegma> and derp?
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[16:23] <Pesky> Qcoder00:  no even numbers in a coven!
[16:23] <Qcoder00> ??
�06[16:23] * Pesky megahuggles derp
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�06[16:23] * Smegma megahuggles Pesky 
[16:23] <Qcoder00> Pesky i thought you needed 4 people to represent the winds?
[16:23] <Smegma> Ryanposs!!!
�03[16:23] * Smegma is now known as Cream
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�08[16:23] Clones detected from wikimedia/Zalgo:�8 Cream derp
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[16:23] <Pesky> Can;t risk a tie vote in a coven!  All hell would break loose ...
�06[16:23] * Cream hugs Ryanposs 
[16:23] <Qcoder00> Pesky:  Hmm
[16:24] <Steven_Zhang> indeed Ryanposs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:24] <Pesky> hehe
[16:24] <Qcoder00> Tradtional covens are rumoured to have 3
[16:24] <Ryanposs> Good evening all :-)
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[16:24] <Pesky> I think, technically, a coven is anything more than two
�06[16:24] * Pesky hugs Ryanposs 
[16:24] <Steven_Zhang> Ryanposs: where have you been hiding?
[16:24] <Cream> Steven_Zhang: now we need ST47 & JonhReaves & Slowking_Man :P
[16:24] <Qcoder00> but I tend to think you need 5,   4 for the winds and 1 figure controlling the rties...
[16:24] <Steven_Zhang> for the last 47 centures
[16:24] <Pesky> Dunno who Ryanposs  is, but you get a hug anyway
[16:24] <Steven_Zhang> *centuries
[16:24] <Steven_Zhang> Ryan Posthelwaite
[16:24] <Ryanposs> I've realised there's life outside Wikipedia :-D
[16:25] <Pesky> Nooooo, *is* there? :P
[16:25] <Steven_Zhang> former chair of medcom
[16:25] <Guerillero> why would one want to for a coven
[16:25] <Ryanposs> Steven_Zhang: Postlethwaite ;-)
[16:25] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[16:25] <Qcoder00> Ryanposs: 'There is no other!  Cleanse the heretic!!!' XD
[16:25] <Cream> Ryanposs: no shit :P
[16:25] <Ironholds> Ryanposs: there is?
[16:25] <Steven_Zhang> not my fault you have such a bloody hard name to spell
[16:25] <Ryanposs> Haha
[16:25] <Pesky> Nah, that's a n easy name
�06[16:25] * Steven_Zhang wonders if Ryanposs knows who he is
[16:25] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: sure. Similarly, your inability to spell is your mother's fault for drinking during pregnancy, not yours :P
[16:25] <Steven_Zhang> youve been away too long :P
[16:25] <Qcoder00> Sonia: Where are you?
[16:25] <Mike_H> Ryanposs married me
[16:26] <Pesky> Or you father's for drinking during intercourse
[16:26] <Ryanposs> I had a good time in my few years on WP, but it does invade on having a real life
[16:26] <Mike_H> I didn't let him have a computer until today
[16:26] <Ryanposs> Yo Mike!
[16:26] <Ironholds> Ryanposs: not true
[16:26] <Ryanposs> Steven_Zhang: Of course I do!
[16:26] <sonia> Qcoder00: ??
[16:26] <Ironholds> sometimes those idiots at the foundation hire you, in which case wikipedia becomes real life
[16:26] <Mike_H> Ryanposs: <3
[16:26] <Guerillero> can i have one of those real lives?
[16:26] <Pesky> You can have mine
[16:26] <Mike_H> and then they act like they're too good to talk to you
[16:26] <Mike_H> eh ircdearia
[16:26] <Mike_H> *Ironholds
[16:26] <Steven_Zhang> well
[16:26] <Ironholds> Mike_H: s/good/incredibly busy/g
[16:26] <Qcoder00> sonia: I was saying about the Wiki women... you need people at the Four winds to form a circle ;)
[16:26] <Qcoder00> Which implies someone has to be In Australia... ;)
[16:26] <Ryanposs> Ironholds: Have you been hired?!
[16:26] <Steven_Zhang> Ironholds: my mother, who i have a restraining order against, actually is an alcoholic .
�06[16:26] * Cream whispers in sonia's ear.
[16:27] <Steven_Zhang> so i suppose you're partly right
[16:27] <Pesky> Qcoder00:  four peole can;t form a circle
[16:27] <Ironholds> Ryanposs: [[User:Okeyes (WMF)]]
[16:27] <Ironholds> features development is my bitch
[16:27] <Ryanposs> O_o
[16:27] <Qcoder00> Pesky: Virtual circule
[16:27] <Ironholds> or I'm theirs. One of the two.
[16:27] <Cream> :o
[16:27] <Ryanposs> Wow - well done!
[16:27] <Pesky> They can form a parallelogram, a rectangle or a rhomboid
[16:27] <Steven_Zhang> his name isnt ironholds :P
[16:27] <sonia> Ironholds: I should be able to make the next office thingy!
[16:27] <Ironholds> Ryanposs: thank you!
[16:27] <Qcoder00> Pesky: It's figurative
[16:27] <Ironholds> sonia: on Friday? Awesome!
[16:27] <sonia> Qcoder00: Auckland, Nueva Zelanda.
[16:27] <Ironholds> we're going to be showing people the prototypes :D
[16:27] <Qcoder00> sonia : Oh well thats OK then
[16:27] <Ironholds> (and then fixing them when they inevitably break and melt)
[16:27] <Ryanposs> Ironholds: Still using the law degree?
[16:27] <Guerillero> of what ironholds
[16:27] <Fluffernutter> who is Patrice O'Neal and should I care that he appears to be dead?
[16:27] <Ironholds> Ryanposs: not professionally, alas
[16:28] <Ironholds> Fluffernutter: an excellent American comedian; one of my dad's, actually.
[16:28] <Ironholds> he's rather shook up
[16:28] <Qcoder00> Fluffernutter is to the West Wind,  Sonia to the South, Peky to the North , just needs someone to the East Wind...
[16:28] <Qcoder00> ;)
[16:28] <Ryanposs> awww
[16:28] <Ironholds> Guerillero: the new version of the Article Feedback Tool
[16:28] <Fluffernutter> ahh
[16:28] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: use Swalling
[16:28] <Ironholds> he's a pretty, pretty girl
[16:28] <Cream> Qcoder00: i'm in the east
[16:28] <Qcoder00> Cream: Are you female?
[16:28] <Guerillero> Ironholds:sounds good
[16:28] <Cream> and i can dress myself as a girl
[16:28] <sonia> hah.
[16:28] <Ironholds> Guerillero: should be! :D
[16:28] <sonia> you're probs more a girl than I am :P
[16:28] <Qcoder00> Cream: Can channel the power of Wiki?
[16:28] <Ironholds> Cream: by that standard we could include Qcoder00 :P
[16:29] <Ironholds> sonia: you're 102 percent girl!
�06[16:29] * sonia smiles
[16:29] <Ironholds> there's you as a person, and you've got 2 percent caught between your teeth
[16:29] <Ironholds> BOOM
[16:29] <sonia> hah.
[16:29] <Guerillero> Qcoder00: LauraHale could be your other wind
[16:29] <Cream> you're all sluts.
[16:29] <LikeLakers2-1> <-- nice restoration rich
[16:29] <Ironholds> you people don't appreciate my sense of humour :(
[16:29] <sonia> Ironholds: I do!
�06[16:29] * Cream breaks wind.
[16:29] <Qcoder00> Guerillero:  Is she to the East?
[16:29] <Ironholds> Cream: I'm not! I'm monoga..monoganog..monog...can't get laid
�06[16:30] * sonia was a very butch teenager though
[16:30] <LikeLakers2-1> someone mind grabbing me a couple db-reason template reason params from a couple deleted page?
[16:30] <Guerillero> she is in oz right now iirc
[16:30] <Qcoder00> Hmm
[16:30] <Cream> laura?
[16:30] <Ironholds> sonia: I wish I was :(
[16:30] <LikeLakers2-1> just the reason param, nothing else
[16:30] <sonia> hmm
[16:30] <Fluffernutter> wtf this conversation
�06[16:30] * Cream checks foursquare on laura
[16:30] <sonia> we need an asian female pedian :P
[16:30] <Ironholds> sonia: *cough*
[16:30] <Qcoder00> Fluffernutter:  I was remarking that if you have any more 'Wiki' women in here you could form a coven ;)
[16:30] <Ironholds> or do you mean "geographically located in Asia"
[16:30] <sonia> aye, but I'm in the south atm, Ironholds
[16:30] <Fluffernutter> there are no women on wikipedia, silly
[16:30] <sonia> yeah
[16:31] <Ironholds> well, there's always Sven
[16:31] <Ironholds> he can wax his scrote and wear a skirt
[16:31] <Guerillero> Qcoder00: my name twin  is a female
[16:31] <Cream> bzzzzzzt
[16:31] <sonia> o_o.
[16:31] <Fluffernutter> ew
�06[16:31] * Ironholds wins today's "worst mental image" prize
[16:31] <Cream> i have Laura's current location
[16:31] <Cream> i take all bets
[16:31] <Ironholds> Fluffernutter: there are totally worse things. Have you seen the picture of a trustee of a chapter that tommorris and WR both helpfully showed around?
[16:31] <Steven_Zhang> Ryanposs: ya know
[16:31] <Guerillero> I think sven is a guy but then i have never met or seen him
[16:31] <Steven_Zhang> we're making big strides with DR :)
[16:31] <Cream> Guerillero: where LauraHale is right now?
[16:32] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: how goes getting a fellowship?
[16:32] <Qcoder00> Where in the World is LauraHale?
[16:32] <Qcoder00> ;)
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[16:32] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: no, you're thinking of Carmen Santiago.
[16:32] <Steven_Zhang> Ironholds: hit a roadblock
[16:32] <Cream> Qcoder00: hint: not in OZ :)
[16:32] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: how come? :(
[16:32] <Steven_Zhang> waiting on RCom to approve the survy
[16:32] <Cream> or Australia
[16:32] <Steven_Zhang> *survey
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[16:32] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: ahhh.
�03[16:32] * Pesky_ is now known as Pesky
[16:32] <Ironholds> Cream: Chicago or DC?
[16:32] <Steven_Zhang> once the survey is approved, things are in full motion
[16:32] <Cream> Ironholds: Europe.
[16:32] <Ironholds> weird!
[16:32] <Guerillero> Cream: I think australia but I'm not sure, her user page talks of international travel
[16:32] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: awesome. Have you thrown the survey past an instrument specialist?
[16:32] <sonia> She was in New Zealand last I saw her.
[16:33] <Cream> i gave a hint, Europe :P
[16:33] <Steven_Zhang> Uh?
[16:33] <Qcoder00> Pesky: So do you have any further hints on what a 'Wiki' coven does?
[16:33] <Steven_Zhang> a what?
[16:33] <Qcoder00> XD
[16:33] <sonia> </totally un useful>
[16:33] <Cream> big city, lots of prostitutes tough
[16:33] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: someone who specialises in reviewing and writing surveys :P
[16:33] <Cream> here you go
[16:33] <Cream> direct hint
[16:33] <Ironholds> Cream: oh, London!
[16:33] <Ironholds> Or Paris, or Prague
[16:33] <Ironholds> or...anywhere with more than 10 men
[16:33] <Cream> you're cold.
[16:33] <Qcoder00> Cream: Loads of Canals and tulips?
[16:33] <Cream> Qcoder00: you're getting warm!
[16:33] <Guerillero> lol ironholds
[16:33] <Ryanposs> Anything big been happening?
[16:33] <Qcoder00> Cream: Rotterdam?
[16:33] <Guerillero> ampsterdam
[16:33] <Steven_Zhang> Well, i created a new DR forum :P
[16:33] <Cream> BINGO!
[16:33] <Steven_Zhang> Ironholds: you seem good at that :P
[16:34] <Guerillero> link steven
�15[16:34] * Missy_ (c0a0d834@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Quit (Client Quit�)
[16:34] <Ironholds> Ryanposs: We finally got rid of TreasuryTag and Off2RioRob
[16:34] <Steven_Zhang> lol. its been there for ages
[16:34] <Steven_Zhang> [[WP:DRN]]
[16:34] <Qcoder00> Panyd: ping?
�06[16:34] * Ironholds crosses two names off his kill list, smiles sweetly
[16:34] <Ryanposs> Ironholds: How did you get rid!?
[16:34] <Cream> you win 2000 0000 000 0000 0000 0000 000 000 0000 internets,  Guerillero
[16:34] <Steven_Zhang> But, I have proposed [[Wikipedia:Binding RFCs]]
[16:34] <Qcoder00> Hi BarkingFish
[16:34] <Guerillero> YUS
[16:34] <Ironholds> Ryanposs: TreasuryTag got indeffed, Off2riorob got his panties in a bunch and left
[16:34] <Panyd> Qcoder00: hello, I am cooking, what's up?
[16:34] <Mike_H> Ryanposs:
[16:34] <Ironholds> (he did, afaik, take his panties with him)
[16:34] <Nascar1996> 20000000000000000000000 internets?
[16:34] <BarkingFish> Hi Q
[16:34] <Qcoder00> Panyd: Oh nothing important, just some jokes about Wiki covens
[16:35] <Qcoder00> ;)
[16:35] <sonia> Ironholds: no, I tasered them both
[16:35] <Steven_Zhang> lol panties
[16:35] <Guerillero> ironholds: and the world got brighter
[16:35] <sonia> Steven_Zhang	lol panties
[16:35] <sonia> ^ how old are you? :P
[16:35] <Qcoder00> Panyd: I noted there were some 'Women of Wiki' in the channel and wondered if it was possible to form a coven with Wiki Women at the four winds ;)
[16:35] <Steven_Zhang> 21
[16:35] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[16:35] <Ryanposs> Mike_H: I've seen that before -very amusing!
[16:35] <Ironholds> sonia: to be fair, I consider "panties" the second worst word in the English language.
�06[16:35] * Steven_Zhang would appreciate comments on [[Wikipedia:Binding RFCs]] fwiwe
�06[16:36] * Fluffernutter stabs the internet in the face. STOP EDIT-CONFLICTING ME ALL OF YOU
[16:36] <Ironholds> Guerillero: all over the world, people danced without quite knowing why.
[16:36] <Ironholds> I mean..panties? the fuck is that?
[16:36] <Mike_H> Ryanposs: ooh my lor
[16:36] <Qcoder00> Panties?   aren't pan-ties  what you use for securing roof tiles?
[16:36] <Ironholds> you can't describe underwear as PANTIES. At best it's merely an awkward failed attempt to be sexy
[16:36] <Mike_H> Qcoder00: pan-tees
[16:36] <Ryanposs> Steven_Zhang: If I was you, I'd give up on making DR proposals - I learnt the hard way and wasted a shed load of time making proposals that would never get accepted
[16:36] <Mike_H> or whatever you Brits use to describe women's underwear
[16:36] <Mike_H> bloomers?
[16:36] <sonia> knickers
[16:36] <Ryanposs> the community doesn't like change
[16:36] <Fluffernutter> "knickers"
[16:36] <Ironholds> Mike_H: "underwear"
[16:36] <Steven_Zhang> Ryanposs: nah
[16:36] <Ironholds> sonia: no, that is THE worst word
[16:36] <Fluffernutter> and the you pop round to the shop for a fag
[16:36] <Ironholds> Ryanposs: tell me about it.
[16:36] <Steven_Zhang> undergarments
[16:36] <Mike_H> knickers sounds like a candy bar
[16:37] <Nascar1996> Mike  H
[16:37] <Mike_H> I like my Knickers with extra nuts
[16:37] <Ironholds> Mike_H: that's snickers.
[16:37] <Ironholds> fuuuck this channel is weird.
[16:37] <Ryanposs> Just do what I did - bribe a developer and get him to install rollback ;-)
[16:37] <Steven_Zhang> Ryanposs: dunno, I proposed DRN and that got accepted.
[16:37] <Steven_Zhang> though was not easy :P
[16:37] <Guerillero> lol
[16:37] <Qcoder00> mike_H: Knicers is a candy bar?   Well it may be sweet when you remove the wrapper , but <snip! This is a family channel! Ed.>
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[16:37] <Mike_H> Qcoder00: lol
[16:37] <sonia> this is a family channel??
[16:37] <bep> snickers are chocolate bars
[16:37] <sonia> oops.
[16:37] <Steven_Zhang> lol it is not
�15[16:38] * Sir48 (~Sir48@ Quit (Read error: Operation timed out�)
[16:38] <bep> americans!
�06[16:38] * bep tuts
[16:38] <Mike_H> and I'm sorry, a pram
[16:38] <Qcoder00> Steven_Zhang:  You understand British Humor?
[16:38] <Mike_H> it's a stroller.
[16:38] <bep> americans say "tid bit" instead of "tit bit"
[16:38] <Mike_H> and creche?
[16:38] <Mike_H> it's day care.
[16:38] <Steven_Zhang> not really :P
[16:38] <bep> it does not stroll, it perambulates
[16:38] <bep> fool
[16:38] <Mike_H> bep: actually just the one word
[16:38] <Mike_H> tidbit
[16:38] <Ryanposs> Steven_Zhang: Looks like a very good board - very useful indeed
[16:38] <Peter-C> This is a family channel?
[16:38] <bep> tut
[16:38] <Qcoder00> You say toe-mato, and I say to-mar-to ... ' etc
[16:38] <Peter-C> What?
[16:38] <Guerillero> we all need to watch thre BBC
�06[16:38] * Peter-C barfs
�06[16:38] * Peter-C abuses Guerillero
[16:38] <Mike_H> Guerillero: Yes, let's.
[16:39] <bep> does anyone actually say toe-may-toe
�06[16:39] * Peter-C tosses booze at the wall
[16:39] <Ironholds> Aunty Beeb saves us all
[16:39] <Mike_H> Ooh, what's this, Carol and BIANKER arguing on the EastEnders.
[16:39] <Steven_Zhang> Ryanposs: its the jewel in my proverbial crown :P
[16:39] <Mike_H> Good idea Guerillero!
[16:39] <bep> bianca is how it's spelt
[16:39] <Guerillero> why are you abusing me
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[16:39] <Mike_H> bep: But they say it BIANKER
[16:39] <Fluffernutter> he's an abuser
[16:39] <bep> no we say bianca
[16:39] <Mike_H> they also say Ricky RICKAAAAAAY
[16:39] <Guerillero> my RfA isn't over yet
[16:39] <Qcoder00> Pesky, Paynd, Fluffernutter,Sonia... would you like a 'female' Wikipedians channel?
[16:39] <sonia> we have -gendergap, do we not?
[16:40] <Pesky> Huh, I leave the room for a cig, net connection goes, comes back, and I come back to all this chat!
[16:40] <sonia> I don't think any more emphasis on the gender gap in a reinforcing sense like that is a good idea
[16:40] <Qcoder00> I meant a semi-social channel
[16:40] <Fluffernutter> no
[16:40] <Pesky> Qcoder00:  um, no
[16:40] <bep> thats…
[16:40] <BewareofDoug> Do wikipedians have gender?
�06[16:40] * Peter-C pets Panyd
[16:40] <bep> that's a little barbaric
[16:40] <Fluffernutter> I socialise just fine in here
[16:40] <BewareofDoug> I thought we had IPs
[16:40] <Pesky> No, but we do have sex
[16:40] <Fluffernutter> for certainb values of "fine"
[16:40] <Mike_H> bep: you honestly can't hear the 'er' at the end
[16:40] <Qcoder00> Pesky: LOL
[16:40] <Steven_Zhang> sex?
[16:40] <bep> on IRC you are not classed by female
[16:40] <Mike_H> when someone goes "Bianker"?
�08[16:40] * derp sprays mace in Peter-C's eyes
[16:40] <Steven_Zhang> yay sex
[16:40] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[16:40] <bep> or male
[16:40] <Qcoder00> bep:  On IRC gender isn't binary ;)
[16:40] <bep> but by you
�15[16:40] * alyxuk (~JohnDoe@unaffiliated/alyxuk) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds�)
[16:40] <bep> on IRC gender doesn't exist
�06[16:41] * Fluffernutter thinks of the particupants here need to be neutered
[16:41] <Qcoder00> bep: LOL
[16:41] <sonia> BewareofDoug	I thought we had IPs
[16:41] <Mike_H> Fluffernutter: it's ok
[16:41] <sonia> 	Pesky	No, but we do have sex
[16:41] <Guerillero> Pesky: i thought you were a guy up until about an hour ago
[16:41] <sonia> ^ o_O?
[16:41] <Mike_H> I'm not having kids anyway
[16:41] <bep> i am sometimes referred to as she
[16:41] <bep> and sometimes as he
�08[16:41] * derp adopts Mike_H
[16:41] <Pesky> Guerillero:  heh!
[16:41] <bep> and mostly as bep
[16:41] <sonia> Fluffernutter: no neutering :(
[16:41] <Qcoder00> Pesky,Paynd: Maybe a female wikipedians channel IS  a bad idea....
[16:41] <Fluffernutter> bep is a bep
[16:41] <Pesky> I'm the channels' Official Granny
[16:41] <Qcoder00> Why was -gendergap created?>
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[16:41] <Ironholds> sonia: shush, you
[16:41] <Ironholds> neutrering is great!
[16:41] <bep> bep is indeed bep
[16:41] <Guerillero> Qcoder00: that could turn bad fast
[16:41] <Ironholds> and on that subject, hey, alyxuk
[16:41] <Fluffernutter> to discuss the gender gap, Qcoder00
�08[16:42] * derp neuters Ironholds.
[16:42] <Qcoder00> because there might be a view that even having a -gendergap channel was of itself controversial
[16:42] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: that view is stupid
[16:42] <Mike_H> Pesky: I admire you that you can go outside for a smoke and not freeze
[16:42] <Mike_H> like I am doing right now
[16:42] <Ironholds> mind you, so are most of the participants in the gendergap discussion
[16:42] <Ironholds> (most! not all! Nobody here appears insane. Well, a FEW..."
[16:42] <Guerillero> :D
[16:43] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: Me wonders if Pesky grows her own Tabacco to smoke :)
[16:43] <Qcoder00> Hmm
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[16:43] <Mike_H> Qcoder00: I buy the sale cigarettes, but not the really cheap sale ones, these are still made by Philip Morris
[16:43] <Pesky> Mike_H:  I virtually grew up outside
[16:43] <Pesky> I roll my own cigs, about 2mm thick
[16:44] <BewareofDoug> sonia: last I looked, all I saw was an IP
[16:44] <Pesky> 50% paper, 50% baccy
[16:44] <Peter-C> Guys
[16:44] <Peter-C> I am a shit editor
[16:44] <Mike_H> I could never have the patience to roll my own
[16:44] <Pesky> You;ve noticed, huh?
[16:44] <Peter-C> I have no WR topic :(
[16:44] <Mike_H> it's like cooking
[16:44] <Mike_H> I want it now
[16:44] <Mike_H> not later
[16:44] <Ironholds> Peter-C: if you've only just worked this out you're a cretin, too.
[16:44] <Nascar1996> Peter-C
[16:44] <sonia> ...he wants a WR topic?
[16:44] <Guerillero> why the fuck do you want a WR thread about you
[16:44] <Mike_H> sonia: do follow the line of discussion please
[16:44] <Mike_H> oh
[16:44] <Pesky> Mike_H:  rolling your own is a bit like smoking a pipe - you get all the satisfaction of making sure it's all laid out properly, things like that
[16:44] <Mike_H> Peter-C
[16:45] <Peter-C> Getting a WR topic is like a congressman getting a death threat
[16:45] <Peter-C> You know youe noticed :P
[16:45] <Mike_H> Pesky: but I am attached to my brand
�06[16:45] * Guerillero blinks
[16:45] <Mike_H> you get attached to brands over time
[16:45] <Pesky> Like Eeyore with his tail?
[16:45] <Fluffernutter> Asking for a WR thread is like, as a white guy, going "gee, i want to be lynched, i feel so left out". not only are you wrong, but you're offensively wrong
[16:45] <Mike_H> you just know how your brand tastes and the world is good
[16:46] <Pesky> Yes, but it's much more expensive that way
[16:46] <Mike_H> Pesky: my carton is $43 after tax, not too bad
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[16:46] <Guerillero> fluff, can I save that comment?
[16:46] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: How big is Your Carton?
[16:46] <Pesky> And the way I do it, even though I have several cigs a day, it works out to the equivalent of about 3 from a packet
[16:46] <Mike_H> it'd be $29 if I could ever get to the state line 40 minutes away
[16:46] <Ironholds> Fluffernutter: I want to see several white people lynched
[16:46] <Mike_H> Qcoder00: it's US standard
[16:46] <Pesky> Go to RfA
�06[16:46] * Ironholds looks pointedly at Peter-C
[16:46] <BewareofDoug> Steven_Zhang: how many WR threads do you have?
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[16:46] <Fluffernutter> Guerillero, depends on how you plan to put it to use in the future...
[16:46] <Mike_H> 10 packs, 20 cigarettes a pack
[16:46] <Ironholds> Pesky: point! Peter, arbcom, now.
[16:47] <Guerillero> true
[16:47] <Ironholds> you're running
[16:47] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: Hmm..
[16:47] <Ironholds> and if nominations have closed, you shall run for RfA
[16:47] <BewareofDoug> More than Fluffernutter I bet
�06[16:47] * Fluffernutter hasn't got any, thank dog
[16:47] <Guerillero> i will let it fall into the history of irc
[16:47] <Qcoder00> Pesky; Can you some other leaves?
[16:47] <Qcoder00> *smoke
[16:47] <Mike_H> Qcoder00: there was a time when half-cartons were sold but they were not popular, we don't have variety really in the sale, 20 cigarettes a pack
[16:47] <Peter-C> Peter form ArbCom!
[16:47] <Peter-C> :P
[16:47] <Pesky> Coltsfoot is ok
[16:48] <Guerillero> peter's rfa could turn into a bloodsport
[16:48] <Ironholds> Guerillero: or as we call it, "an RfA"
[16:48] <Peter-C> ^
[16:48] <BewareofDoug> Steven_Zhang: be sure to mention Fluffernutter in some gratuitous way the next time you reply to a thread about you ;-)
[16:48] <Fluffernutter> sigh
[16:48] <Qcoder00> Pesky: - There's a note about liver side effects
[16:48] <Pesky> Almost anything can have liver side-effects
[16:48] <sonia> not quite pd-text, right?
[16:48] <Pesky> The liver is the body's chemical factory
[16:48] <Mike_H> Pesky: Are you in America or in another country
[16:49] <Pesky> UK
[16:49] <Mike_H> Oh so I imagine cigarettes are a killing there
[16:49] <Pesky> Stupidly expensive
[16:49] <Qcoder00> Quite a lot of the price of UK tabacco is tax
[16:49] <Mike_H> my pack per pack is $4 before tax
[16:49] <Pesky> Most of it, in fact
[16:49] <Mike_H> so like $4.45 afterwards
[16:49] <Pesky> I think they range around £5 to £6 per pack here
�06[16:50] * Qcoder00 wonders what 'Cannabis' cigs would cost if they were legal
[16:50] <Pesky> but I don;t buy packs, so I'm probably out of touch
[16:50] <Mike_H> we have a bare national tax and then each state regulates their own tax so you can have really cheap cigarettes in one state and expensive ones in another
[16:50] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: don't you get border hopping trips in some areas?
[16:50] <Pesky> From the UK, it's cheaper to travel to Belgium and buy a load over there than it is to go to the corner shop and get them
[16:51] <Mike_H> Qcoder00: the border with Missouri is 40 minutes away
[16:51] <Qcoder00> Pesky:  Wasn't there a recent news item about  widescale 'illegal' importation?
[16:51] <Mike_H> Missouri has the cheapest state taxes on cigs in the country
[16:51] <Pesky> Qcoder00:  probably
[16:51] <Mike_H> so my carton that's $43 in Arkansas is $31 in Missouri
[16:51] <Pesky> Qcoder00:  I don't read / watch the news
[16:51] <Panyd> Mike_H: Missouri cigarette prices rock
[16:51] <Qcoder00> Someone I knew  claimed that smuggling was a historical thing...
[16:52] <Pesky> tripe!
[16:52] <Qcoder00> .. He couldn't be more wrong
[16:52] <Mike_H> Florida used to have one of the lowest taxes in the country but then they raised them twice. Now per carton they are just below Arkansas' prices.
[16:52] <Pesky> well, technically he could
[16:52] <Mike_H> I could probably get them for $39 in Florida.
[16:52] <Qcoder00> Modern smuggluing is a serious crime ;)
[16:52] <Pesky> He could be more wrong if he'd said it had never happened
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�06[16:52] * Fluffernutter read that as "modern snuggling" and was like "wow, your snuggling is hardcore"
[16:53] <Pesky> rofl
[16:53] <Guerillero> lol
[16:53] <Mike_H> I was on a road trip with my nephew who smokes and was 18 at the time and we went through Alabama and I had to buy the smokes for him
[16:53] <Qcoder00> Well modern smugglers don't have a romantic air of mystery
[16:53] <Mike_H> because in Alabama you have to be 19
[16:53] <Qcoder00> and ride phantom steeds in the dead of night.
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[16:53] <Qcoder00> Watch the wall my darling as the gentlemen go by ;)
[16:53] <Pesky> I don;t think any smugglers actually rode phantom steeds
[16:53] <Mike_H> In AL, AK, NJ and UT you have to be 19
[16:53] <Qcoder00> Pesky: I was trying to be poetic ;)
[16:53] <Pesky> Qcoder00:  have you heard the Bedstead Men?
[16:54] <Qcoder00> Pesky:  Flanders and Swan classic ;)
[16:54] <Pesky> Brilliant
[16:54] <Guerillero> if you can buy pr0n at 18 you should be able to buy smokes
[16:54] <Qcoder00> Which is suprisingly pertinent given the modern incidence of fly-tipping sadly :(
[16:54] <Mike_H> Guerillero: those same states except for NJ are up in arms about a lot of "moral" things
[16:54] <Mike_H> those states also don't have lotteries
[16:54] <Mike_H> etc
[16:55] <Guerillero> the ability to buy beer at 18 would be nice too
[16:55] <Qcoder00> Does anywhere in the US tax prostitution?
[16:55] <sonia> you guys are strange
[16:55] <Mike_H> Qcoder00: Nevada
[16:55] <Qcoder00> (assuming it's legal in the first place)
[16:55] <Mike_H> where it is legal
[16:55] <sonia> you can vote before you can drink, is that right?
[16:55] <Qcoder00> In the UK, voting age and drinking age is the same
[16:55] <Panyd> sonia: Yup in the US
[16:55] <Panyd> and join the army
[16:55] <Guerillero> everyone drinks. its just not 100% legal
[16:55] <Panyd> and I think be put to death
[16:55] <sonia> that is just odd.
[16:55] <sonia> o.o.
[16:55] <Qcoder00> In the UK though you can have sex 2 years before you can vote
[16:55] <Mike_H> Voting is at 18
[16:55] <Mike_H> Smoking is at 18/19
�08[16:55] * derp gives sonia a sandwich
[16:55] <Mike_H> Drinking is at 21
[16:56] <sonia> And I thought it was bad that here at 17 you can be tried as an adult but not vote or drink or do anything else.
[16:56] <sonia> sex is 16 here, as is marriage, but voting/ alks is 18
[16:56] <Mike_H> sonia: It is 16 or 17 in most of the states
[16:56] <Mike_H> except for 11 of them where it is 18
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[16:56] <Mike_H> and federally it is also 18
[16:56] <BewareofDoug> Wait a minute Mike, are you saying NJ doesn't have a lottery?
[16:57] <Mike_H> BewareofDoug: I said except for.
[16:57] <Mike_H> AL, AK and UT do not have lotteries afaik
[16:57] <Guerillero> NJ can't pump their own petro
[16:57] <Qcoder00> BewareofDoug:   NJ has plently of unoffical 'lotteries'
[16:57] <Qcoder00> XD
�08[16:57] <derp> Mike_H, if i win 5 000$ in lottery, how much is given back in taxes?
[16:57] <Mike_H> AL and MS are the only Southern states without lotteries now
[16:57] <Mike_H> derp, about 45%
[16:57] <Qcoder00> Who runs US lotteries?
[16:57] <Guerillero> its hilarious here at uni watching NJ kids attempt to pump gas
[16:57] <Mike_H> derp, but I think it's $6,000 before it is taxed
�08[16:57] <derp> Qcoder00, the states itselves
[16:58] <Guerillero> Qcoder00: states rights
[16:58] <Qcoder00> derp: Wasn't there concern about lotteries being run by organised crime?
[16:58] <Mike_H> derp, well, there are also multi-state lotteries but the state lotteries have to give approval for them to run there
�08[16:58] <derp> glad i live in Canada :P
[16:58] <Mike_H> in most states there are two multi-state lotteries, Powerball and Mega Millions
[16:58] <Mike_H> Florida only allows Powerball
�08[16:58] <derp> if i win 10 000$ in lottery, 0% goes to tax :P
[16:59] <Mike_H> derp, well, all of it isn't "tax" per se
[16:59] <Mike_H> some of the allotted "tax" goes back into the lottery to pay for scholarships for students, etc.
[16:59] <Qcoder00> I don't like the way some lotteries work in the UK...
[16:59] <Mike_H> which is how some Southern states got lotteries
[16:59] <Mike_H> as a guise to improve education
[16:59] <Qcoder00> I mean the UK National Lottery  claims to give money to good causes , but...
[17:00] <Mike_H> In Florida, students can get full scholarships to universities through the lottery's scholarship fund
[17:00] <Mike_H> "Bright Futures"
[17:00] <Qcoder00> Pesky:  Do you play Bingo?
[17:00] <Mike_H> in Georgia it is called "HOPE," other states have different names for it, etc etc
[17:00] <Guerillero> Mike_H: ours is for old people
[17:00] <Pesky> Qcoder00:  no
[17:01] <Qcoder00> Any reasons why?
[17:01] <Mike_H> Guerillero: old people going to college...?
[17:01] <Pesky> Boring
�08[17:01] * derp gives Mike_H a Loto Max ticket
[17:01] <Qcoder00> Personally, I don't mind things like church raffles and so on, but get concerned about large scale lotteries
[17:01] <Mike_H> Florida was the last state with a lottery to accept a multi-state lottery
[17:01] <Mike_H> which we only did in like 2009
�08[17:01] <derp> lotto max is a canadian lottery that has a maximum gain of 50 M$
[17:02] <Qcoder00> Pesky: Do yu gamble at all?
[17:02] <Mike_H> derp: the multi-state lotteries start at $20 million once it is won
[17:02] <Pesky> We buy one ticket for each main draw, no others for gimmick draws; same numbers, leaves the bacnk by direct debit, winnings paid direct to bank
�08[17:02] <derp> Same here
[17:02] <Mike_H> and rolls over until someone wins it, it is not uncommon for the final amount to be above $200 million
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[17:02] <Pesky> The only time I gamble is when it's not me that's gambling - i.e. when I know something the other guy doesn;t!
�08[17:02] <derp> lotto max allows the amount to be maximum of 50$ 
�08[17:03] <derp> and it has overflow bonuses too
[17:03] <Qcoder00> Peky:   I'm suprised you dont put money on horses ;)
[17:03] <Mike_H> oh it's $1 per bet here
[17:03] <Pesky> I don't really count the one-ticket per lottery as gambling.  It's just something we do
[17:03] <Mike_H> and an extra $1 can "magnify" partial winnings
[17:03] <Qcoder00> But then some people claim putting money on horses isn't a nice thing to do
[17:03] <Mike_H> like on Powerball, if you get every number but the Powerball
[17:03] <Pesky> Qcoder00:  if you knew as much about racing as I do, you probably wouldn;t put money on them either :P
[17:03] <Mike_H> and you paid that extra $1
[17:03] <Mike_H> you are guaranteed $1 million
[17:03] <Qcoder00> Pesky: Oh?
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[17:04] <Qcoder00> Do people in racing hold a view that  bookies are always out to get you?
[17:04] <Pesky> I used to work in Newmarket for a while
[17:04] <Pesky> No, not necessarily
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[17:04] <Mike_H> If I want to gamble slots, I'd go to Vegas
[17:04] <Mike_H> even though there are casinos much closer, Indian and otherwise
[17:05] <Nascar1996> VEGAS!
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[17:05] <Mike_H> Vegas seems more budget-friendly
[17:05] <Pesky> Gambling is basically boring unless you;re gambling on your own abilities against someone else's
[17:05] <Mike_H> while the casinos in Mississippi are not
[17:05] <sonia> Pesky: like arm-wrestling!
[17:05] <Qcoder00> Pesky: :) If you said you worked in Cheltenham , I'd have been slightly concerned ;)
[17:05] <Pesky> hehehe
[17:05] <Pesky> I have been a signatory to The Act
[17:05] <Mike_H> in Vegas you can get a buffet for like $6
[17:05] <Mike_H> in Mississippi they put Paula Deen's name on it and charge $20
[17:06] <Qcoder00> Pesky: To be fair some trainers in racing  must make thier staff signatories to some act given that they can be tight lipped ;)
[17:06] <Pesky> sonia - I'm less likely to do arm-wrestling than some other things
[17:06] <Mike_H> a "cheap room" in Mississippi is like $79 a night, I'm sure I could find one for half that in Vegas
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[17:06] <Nascar1996> PIE!
[17:06] <Pesky> 3.141592653589793 ...
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�06[17:07] * Panyd noms
[17:07] <Qcoder00> Pesky : Ah but you do know what a tau is?
[17:07] <Pesky> rings a bell
[17:07] <Nascar1996> PI
[17:07] <Pesky> I used to be able to quote the value of Pi to 100 places
�06[17:07] * Peter-C muzzles Panyd
�06[17:08] * Panyd wastes away into nothing
[17:08] <Qcoder00> Pesky of course  in one language I was woking on  'taurad' was a translation for circle ;)
[17:08] <Steven_Zhang> is anyone available for a confidential chat?
[17:08] <Pesky> I wish I could!
[17:08] <Peter-C> Panyd - what about those bags they put over horses
[17:08] <Steven_Zhang> ie, an ear to listen
[17:08] <Pesky> Steven_Zhang:  if you do  those on the phone, you can earn well from it, apparently
[17:08] <Peter-C> they put food in the bag
[17:08] <Pesky> nosebags
[17:08] <Peter-C> ^
[17:08] <Qcoder00> Peter-C: You mean a nosebag?
[17:08] <Pesky> Steven_Zhang:  ok
[17:08] <Steven_Zhang> :/
[17:08] <Steven_Zhang> i am being serious here.
[17:09] <Pesky> ok
�06[17:09] * Peter-C puts a nosebag over Panyd's mouth filled with hamburger
[17:09] <Qcoder00> BarkingFish : Evening again
[17:09] <Qcoder00> Peter-C: LOL
[17:09] <BarkingFish> I said hello the first time, Q, you missed it :)
[17:09] <Qcoder00> What are you supposed to put in nosebags?
[17:09] <Qcoder00> Oats?
[17:09] <Fluffernutter> noses
[17:09] <BarkingFish> your nose?
[17:10] <Qcoder00> BarkingFish :  :)
�06[17:10] * Panyd would really prefer to not have a nosebag on at all
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[17:10] <Qcoder00> BarkingFish: BTW I was right about Q Stations...
[17:10] <Eta-theta> :O Oh no
[17:10] <BarkingFish> the only time i'd put my nose in a bag is if i were carrying it somewhere
[17:10] <Qcoder00> Apparently here in the UK there WERE signal interception points called Q stations...
[17:11] <Eta-theta> Is there an IRC channel for the Cluebots?
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[17:12] <Peter-C> I wanna make a business where I sell ANYTHING in a nosebag
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[17:26] <Peter-C> WTF IS THIS
�06[17:26] * Peter-C kicks the TV
[17:27] <Qcoder00> Peter-C: Write in and moan
[17:27] <Steven_Zhang> lol
�06[17:27] * Peter-C writes the letter and places it in Steven_Zhang's mouth
[17:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Peter-C you arent a channel op in #TV
[17:27] <Peter-C> Go boy! Deliver it!
�06[17:28] * Peter-C tosses Steven_Zhang out a window
�06[17:28] * ToAruShiroiNeko tosses Peter-C out of the nearest airlock...
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[17:28] <James_F> Hey.
�06[17:28] * Steven_Zhang is in no mood, Peter-C 
[17:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Hey! Hey! Hey!
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[17:29] <James_F> tommorris> Thanks, seen.
[17:31] <Ironholds> tommorris: we doing lunch tomorrow?
[17:32] <tommorris> Ironholds: yep
[17:32] <Ironholds> smashing
[17:32] <Ironholds> 1pm at...where? I'll wander to the general vicinity and phone you
[17:32] <tommorris> Ironholds: shortly after 1pm hopefully; Kensington
[17:32] <Ironholds> smashing
[17:32] <tommorris> Ironholds: my phone number has changed, but it might change back
[17:32] <Ironholds> should you bring the coat, you will make me a happy man
[17:32] <Ironholds> ahh. well, you still have mine, so...
�06[17:32] * Peter-C needs to go to Kensington tommorow to stalk tommorris and Ironholds
[17:32] <tommorris> Ironholds: do you just want a sandwich or a proper meal?
[17:32] <Ironholds> tommorris: I'm feeling like a decent lunch. you?
[17:33] <tommorris> Ironholds: there's a really awesome Thai place
[17:33] <Steven_Zhang> "smashing
[17:33] <tommorris> or there's a pub grub pub near uni
[17:33] <Steven_Zhang> Ironholds: if my fellowship goes ahead
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[17:33] <Steven_Zhang> would love to meet you in the UK next year
[17:34] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: you'd be flying here for your fellowship? :P
[17:34] <Ironholds> tommorris: thai sounds great!
[17:34] <Steven_Zhang> Ironholds: yer
[17:34] <Ironholds> I was planning on having italian, but she's busy :(
[17:34] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: why?
[17:34] <Steven_Zhang> mediatior training
[17:34] <Steven_Zhang> thats the idea
[17:35] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: for...?
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[17:35] <Steven_Zhang> for? Well, the issue we see is lack of people active in DR and their skills
[17:35] <Ironholds> as in, what users?
[17:35] <Steven_Zhang> well the survey will tell us that :-)
[17:36] <Ironholds> then you may or may not be coming to the UK ;p
[17:36] <Ironholds> and if you are, I may (amusingly) be in Australia. Or in SF. Or sat at home and unemployed :P
[17:36] <Ironholds> if it's the third, I'd be happy to meet
[17:37] <Steven_Zhang> Will you be going to Wikimania?
[17:37] <Ironholds> again, depends if I'm in Australia, SF or unemployed
[17:37] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[17:37] <Steven_Zhang> (Well I will be)
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[17:37] <Demiurge1000> Right, who knows about image copyright? If someone hand-draws their own "interpretation" of a manga character, but doesn't own rights to the original,can the person drawing it license it freely for WP ?
[17:38] <James_F> Demiurge1000> No. Derivative work.
[17:38] <Steven_Zhang> indeed
[17:38] <Steven_Zhang> what he said
[17:38] <Demiurge1000> thanks, thought so :(
[17:38] <TParis> I knew it was a "D" word
[17:38] <TParis> I couldnt think of it
[17:38] <tommorris> oh fuck, Pharos has disappeared
[17:38] <Demiurge1000> the lighthouse too
[17:38] <Steven_Zhang> the D word?
[17:39] <TParis> Derivative
[17:39] <Ironholds> TParis: it's not a real word in its own right
[17:39] <Demiurge1000> donut!
[17:39] <Steven_Zhang> doodle
[17:39] <Ironholds> just another word that's been remixed slightly
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[17:41] <matthewrbowker> Is is OK to edit a comment on a talkpabe to remove spaces before the sentences.  I got a comment on my talkpage that was a mess, and I want to know if it's OK to make it readable?
[17:41] <James_F> Bah. No guillom.
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[17:41] <Demiurge1000> matthewrbowker: yeah that's fine
[17:42] <matthewrbowker> Demiurge1000: OK, thanks.
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[17:46] <Steven_Zhang> aw
[17:46] <Peter-C> You know you a bad kid when: A cop tells your mother she woulda been better off if she had an abortion
[17:47] <Steven_Zhang> ouch
[17:47] <sonia> o_O?
[17:47] <Peter-C> Oh, it didn't happen to me, don't worry :P
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[17:48] <Peter-C> That would be wuite weird if a cop told me that...
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[17:49] <mabdul> BarkingFish: do you have your ACC tool access back?
[17:49] <BarkingFish> yes
[17:49] <mabdul> okay, so need to ping any tooladmin? XD
[17:50] <mabdul> :(
[17:50] <mabdul> XD
[17:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> o hai mabdul
[17:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mabdul can I ask your help with an article?
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[17:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko>
[17:51] <mabdul> ToAruShiroiNeko: *cheking*
[17:51] <mabdul> ToAruShiroiNeko: you know: TL;DR XD
[17:51] <mabdul> ToAruShiroiNeko: do a simple version
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[17:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I cant read german sources unfortunately
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[17:52] <mabdul> ToAruShiroiNeko: i ask my people in -de XD
[17:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I did
[17:53] <mabdul> you did?
[17:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they responded that I should as in -en
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[17:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yesterday
[17:54] <mabdul> ToAruShiroiNeko: that's the change, I asked my known people and pinged them XD
[17:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Article is very important for Germany I believe
[17:54] <mabdul> yeah
[17:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> as Neo-nazis and germany is an explosive topic I imagine
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[17:54] <mabdul> nothing different in the news
[17:54] <mabdul> with the exception of the EU and EURO
[17:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> But the article is underdeveloped
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[17:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> which is a problem because all other translations rely on the english translation typically
[17:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so I feel it is vital to have a complkete english translation of an incident of this magnitude
[17:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> after all people will be reading wikipedia articles the second the trial starts
[17:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I apriciate any help you can offer mabdul :)
[17:56] <mabdul> wToAruShiroiNeko: hy are you intested in that stuff? today they found another person who had givem them the / one pistol...
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[17:58] <Pesky> ToAruShiroiNeko:  Google translate is good enough for you to re-word from, on the whoe
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[17:59] <mabdul> ToAruShiroiNeko: ref#5 seems not citing the suicide
[18:00] <mabdul> ref#8 wants to start to print... err change the link
[18:02] <mabdul> ToAruShiroiNeko: I feel too busy to get more in tuch with this topic. I can't see/hear it any more... similar to greek and the debts... XD
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[18:04] <mabdul> ToAruShiroiNeko: "[00:03:58] <Funfood> sonst siehts ok aus mabdul"
[18:04] <mabdul> ToAruShiroiNeko: "rest is ok"
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[18:05] <mabdul> ToAruShiroiNeko: but yeah, funfood is right, no suicide in that ref. (give him a cookie, beer or a barnstar or whatever XD)
[18:06] <Steven_Zhang> sonia: your boyfriend's proposal is going OK :P
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[18:06] <mabdul> ?!?
[18:07] <mabdul> sonia has a bf?
[18:07] <petan> o.
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[18:07] <petan> night
[18:07] <mabdul> night
[18:08] <matthewrbowker> night.
[18:08] <Steven_Zhang> dcotezee
[18:08] <Steven_Zhang> mabdul: Yes
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[18:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mabdul|ping :p
[18:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Itu is here?
[18:21] <mabdul|ping> Only the party funfood was mentioned
[18:21] <mabdul|ping> -de
[18:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ah
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[18:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> on the other hand Norway massacre: Breivik declared insane
[18:26] <mabdul|ping> yeah, err, funny laws XD
[18:27] <Lubaf> Is it bad that my reaction on listening to the O'Jay's "For Love of Money" recently was "DAT BASS"?
[18:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mabdul|ping no it is fine. That guy is insane
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[18:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he would be a danger to other inmates otherwise
[18:27] <SigmaWP> Fluffernutter: [15:24]	SigmaWP	Does the existence of RS in an article assert significance and importance?
[18:27] <SigmaWP> [15:25]	Ks0stm	Not necessarily...for AfD standards no, for CSD standards yes
[18:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he should be but to a maximum security mental institution
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[18:29] <Gfoley4> and she cares why?
[18:30] <ToAruShiroiNeko> afd has standards?
[18:30] <ToAruShiroiNeko> are they sanctioned by the ISO?
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[18:31] <Gfoley4> lol, you created an article on jorm.
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[18:35] <mabdul> ToAruShiroiNeko: yeah, err, i'm getting tired...
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[18:37] <barts1a> It turns out that because of MoP's questionable extention of Andy's block he barely served 10 hours of block time before being unblocked... The 72 hours was questionable but the 24 hour was perfectly reasonable
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[18:41] <PiRSquared17> User:Trolltheworld
[18:41] <PiRSquared17> Vandalism-only account, "troll"
[18:42] <Gfoley4> orly
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[18:43] <Qcoder00> BarkingFish; How much do you know about Local Radio adverts?
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[18:44] <barts1a> I like the block reason for that account...
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[18:44] <Jeske_Merensky> *RAEG*
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[18:44] <Gfoley4> BarkingFish: ^_^
[18:44] <Gfoley4> Jeske_Merensky: behave.
�06[18:45] * barts1a hates it when people fly into a nerd rage
[18:45] <Gfoley4> er, barts1a: ^_^
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[18:45] <Gfoley4> sorry BarkingFish!
[18:45] <BarkingFish> Qcoder00: other than that they probably only have about 20 voice artists who record them all, not much
[18:45] <Qcoder00> Think you are up to making some?
[18:45] <BarkingFish> Gfoley4: don't worry, I thought you were pointing out Qcoder's ping to me]
[18:45] <barts1a> Gfoley4: Tab-autocomplete fail?
[18:45] <Gfoley4> barts1a: yeah.
[18:46] <barts1a> Gfoley4: I just type it out by hand
[18:46] <Gfoley4> old school
[18:46] <Qcoder00> BarkingFish:  Actually I was thinking more of the retro sort of local radio ads that seemed to share voice actors with Cinema ads ;)
[18:46] <BarkingFish> Qcoder00: i can give it a try, sometime. I've got other things on my mind at the moment, like my court case.
[18:46] <barts1a> Gfoley4: At least it's 100% accurate
[18:46] <SigmaWP> LikeLakers2-1: Ping
[18:47] <Jeske_Merensky> Gfoley4) I always kill ponies when I come on.
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[18:47] <Gfoley4> Then stop.
[18:47] <SigmaWP> Fluttershy-EN: Jeske_Merensky wants you dead
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[18:48] <Gfoley4> …
[18:48] <barts1a> ...
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[18:48] <Gfoley4> "…" is better!
[18:48] <SigmaWP> LikeLakers2-1: Ping me when you get back, I only have a question
[18:48] <barts1a> … ...
[18:49] <barts1a> I prefer ...
[18:49] <Gfoley4> "... (incompatible encoding)"
[18:49] <barts1a> ... -- ...
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[18:50] <Steven_Zhang> hi SigmaWP
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[18:50] <Nascar1996> ...
[18:50] <SigmaWP> hi
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[18:52] <SigmaWP> No namespace will escape my tags
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[18:54] <PiRSquared17> barts1a: are you using {S o a p}?
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[18:56] <PiRSquared> Trollpoop@enwiki matches badword \btroll; poop:
[18:56] <{Soap}> I wonder why he needed three of himself
[18:56] <PiRSquared> User:Trollpoop
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[18:58] <Steven_Zhang> tommorris: ouch
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[18:58] <mabdul> Steven_Zhang: ?
[18:58] <Nascar1996> ...
[18:58] <Steven_Zhang>
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[18:59] <mono> Sliding green bars. Can we have popups yet?
�06[18:59] * Nascar1996 waves at mono
[18:59] <SigmaWP> Not even the AfCs will survive!!!!
[18:59] <Addihockey10> mono: Where?
[18:59] <mono>
�06[19:00] * mono waves at Nascar1996
[19:00] <PiRSquared> .
[19:00] <Addihockey10> mono: Jesus christ.
[19:00] <PiRSquared> I haven't seen them
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[19:00] <Nascar1996> :-)
[19:00] <mabdul> mono: new test, see #wikimedia-fundraising
[19:00] <mono> They slide in.
[19:00] <PiRSquared> lol
[19:00] <mono> mabdul: I know.
[19:00] <mabdul> [00:36:53] <kaldari> new experimental banner turned on for US
[19:00] <mabdul> [00:36:59] <kaldari> let's see what happens
[19:00] <mabdul> [00:37:29] <pgehres> kaldari: this will be interesting
[19:00] <mabdul> [00:39:31] <kaldari> for those of you outside the US:
[19:00] <mabdul> [00:39:51] <mabdul> *click*
[19:00] <mono> They're just asking for trouble from the editors.
[19:01] <SigmaWP> Hey, new banners
[19:01] <mono>
[19:01] <sonia> eek
[19:01] <sonia> that scared me :p
[19:01] <barts1a> They already made a meme out of the banners
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[19:02] <Nascar1996> They are putting the portals on the main page?
[19:02] <sonia> Demiurge1000: you there?
[19:02] <Demiurge1000> yep
[19:02] <{Soap}> I dont see any banner
[19:02] <sonia> pm?
[19:02] <Demiurge1000> I have no control over banners, though.  And yeah
[19:02] <Nascar1996> When did they do that?
[19:02] <{Soap}> I must have it blocked somehow
[19:02] <mabdul> {Soap}: yes user prefs
[19:02] <mabdul> or global blocked at meta
[19:03] <mono> {Soap}: (it slides in animated)
[19:03] <{Soap}> well, it appears if I click the link mono posted
[19:03] <{Soap}> is it supposed to be random, e.g. it only appears 1/10 of the time?
[19:03] <mabdul> lol the whole chanel is flooding -fundraising XD
[19:03] <mono> it's like every other banner variation
[19:04] <juboubuntu> yeah.. who is the guy on the right in this picture -
[19:04] <Logan_> jorm.
[19:04] <juboubuntu> so awful technological escatologist I bet
[19:04] <Logan_> a.k.a. Brandon Harris, programmer for the Wikimedia Foundation.
[19:04] <Logan_> Don't be rude.
[19:04] <mono>
[19:05] <mono> ^ worse
[19:06] <Nascar1996> hehe
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�06[19:07] * Nascar1996 waves at Queen.
�06[19:08] * Queen waves at Nascar1996 then goes back to doing project
�06[19:08] * Nascar1996 will not disturb QUEEN again. lol
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[19:09] <Queen> It's my capstone project for intro to database that's due tomorrow D:
[19:09] <barts1a> fun(!)
�06[19:09] * Nascar1996 has a lot of homework that needs to be finished before tomorrow. :-(
[19:10] <Queen> I'm at the point where it's mostly just copy/paste ^^
[19:10] <tommorris> Steven_Zhang: thanks for notification on that. I, err, had my reasons for PRODding.
[19:10] <SigmaWP>
�06[19:10] * sonia kicks Nascar1996 off IRC to do his work
[19:10] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: Move that to User:Arse_Models
[19:10] <Nascar1996> Hehe. I can't c/p. I have to get the information out of a book. DX
[19:11] <Nascar1996> sonia: Its not that important. :D
[19:11] <Nascar1996> lol
�06[19:12] * Nascar1996 pulls out twenty lbs of books.
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[19:13] <sonia> o_o.
[19:14] <Nascar1996> ?
[19:14] <barts1a> :S
[19:15] <sonia> you're, what, fifteen? why do you have that many books o_o
[19:15] <Nascar1996> Biology and Geometry...
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[19:16] <Nascar1996> My teachers can't figure out that we have 7 classes  a day...
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�06[19:16] * Nascar1996 is surprised I don't have 3 or 4.
[19:17] <Nascar1996> They are huge books.
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[19:17] <{Soap}> well itll keep you in shape : )
[19:18] <Nascar1996> Haha. Right when I arrive at school I'm putting one book up, then I'm going to have to go to the fourth floor and put up the other.
[19:18] <SigmaWP>
�06[19:18] * Logan_ yawns.
[19:18] <Qcoder00> sonia:   :)
[19:18] <Logan_> Too much work.
[19:19] <Qcoder00> OK Anyone that has a good recording voice... I have a litle project in mind
[19:19] <Qcoder00> ?
[19:19] <Qcoder00> I'll be over in #16mm if anyone cares
[19:19] <Logan_> "If Everyone Cared" ~Nickelback
�06[19:19] * Nascar1996 hopes he don't have as much homework tomorrow because he has a docter's appointment.
[19:20] <sonia> Qcoder00: sure
[19:20] <Logan_> What's a docter?
[19:20] <sonia> what's the project?
�06[19:20] * Cream tortures {Soap} with Nickelback music.
�06[19:20] * Logan_ huggles Cream.
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[19:20] <SigmaWP> Cream: :D
�06[19:20] * Cream huggles Logan_ 
�06[19:20] * Cream huggles SigmaWP 
[19:20] <Qcoder00> Logan_: I need someone to in a sense read a version of the Wikipedia article on Mars
�06[19:20] * Cream huggles Qcoder00 
[19:20] <Cream> Qcoder00: i.e. record the voice article.
[19:20] <Logan_> I'm getting over a cold. Not sure how well that would work.
[19:21] <Qcoder00> but I need them to adapt it for radio
[19:21] <purplebackpack89> oh
[19:21] <Logan_> purplebackpack89: Hi there.
[19:21] <Qcoder00> as opposed to reading it as for Spoekn Wikipedia
[19:21] <PiRSquared> purplebackpack89: hello
[19:21] <Logan_> Qcoder00: I'd rather listen to Nickelback than that on the radio.
[19:21] <sonia> oh that sounds fun
[19:21] <purplebackpack89> I've done radio in the past, but I don't have the right equipment at the moment
[19:21] <sonia> I wanted to do spoken articles
�06[19:21] * barts1a is confused as well... One delete and two keeps, relisted, one merge and six keeps = delete?
[19:21] <purplebackpack89> if I did, I'd be glad to help
[19:21] <Qcoder00> purplebackpack89:   Do you know how to use Audacity?
[19:22] <Cream> sonia: in a sexy sultry voice with light music in the background?
[19:22] <Logan_> barts1a: Wikipedia operates on consensus, not vote-counting.
[19:22] <sonia> Cream: o_o.
[19:22] <purplebackpack89> it's more on the other side of things
[19:22] <Qcoder00> Maybe Sonia would be better at reading Venus?
[19:22] <Qcoder00> ;)
[19:22] <barts1a> Logan_: How does one delete and one merge form a consensus ofer 8 keeps?
[19:22] <sonia> my voice isn't very sexy or feminine, I'm afraid :p
[19:22] <purplebackpack89> my laptop doesn't pick up audio properly
[19:22] <sonia> and I have a peculiar accent
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[19:22] <Cream> sonia: whisper into the mike
[19:23] <Cream> simply
[19:23] <purplebackpack89> (it also shuts down every 30 minutes)
[19:23] <Logan_> barts1a: Those are just numbers. The consensus must be clear.
[19:23] <Qcoder00> For a lot of things I sound wrong
[19:23] <Cream> that'll be right in the user's ear.
[19:23] <Qcoder00> And on reading articles , you have to get the right sort of voice
[19:23] <barts1a> Logan_: how is that consensus clear in ANY sense of the word?
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[19:23] <sonia> Qcoder00:
[19:23] <Logan_> barts1a: All you're giving me is numbers. It's not helping.
[19:23] <Qcoder00> For example an article on 'The South' sounds wrong if read in RP
[19:23] <barts1a> one delete and one merge vs 8 keeps is NOT a clear consensus
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[19:23] <barts1a>
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[19:24] <{Soap}> "283rd nomination"
[19:24] <Qcoder00> Sonia: That doesn't sound bad at all
[19:25] <Qcoder00> It sounds like BBC Overseas  reporting :)
�06[19:25] * Logan_ shrugs.
[19:25] <Logan_> barts1a: It was endorsed at DRV...
[19:25] <SigmaWP> Damn it, why are my edits so slow?
[19:25] <Logan_> Can't really help you. And it seems that it was restored anyway.
[19:25] <purplebackpack89> Logan_: I explained NOTAVOTE to him
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[19:26] <Qcoder00> Sonia: Have you ever done any acting?
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[19:26] <sonia> Qcoder00: minor solo roles in a few musicals
[19:26] <Qcoder00> OK
[19:26] <barts1a> Logan_: 61 sources = not notable? How does that work?
[19:26] <Qcoder00> Sonia: I would suggest doing a test reading of  'Venus' if you feel interested
[19:27] <Qcoder00>
�06[19:27] * purplebackpack89 was in three plays
[19:27] <Qcoder00> Great:)
[19:27] <sonia> Qcoder00: how?
[19:27] <sonia> just a spoken?
[19:27] <Qcoder00> For now
[19:27] <Logan_> barts1a: You're getting way too worked up about a discussion from over a year ago. The article probably wasn't the same back then anyway.
[19:28] <Qcoder00> purplebackpack89:  What is your equipment problem?
[19:28] <Qcoder00> No mic?
[19:28] <purplebackpack89> shitty mic
[19:28] <purplebackpack89> shitty laptop
[19:28] <Qcoder00> Ah , yes well... I've had that problem as well
[19:29] <Qcoder00> Next question... : Where do I make a 'Casting call' for voice artists on Wikipedia?
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[19:29] <Qcoder00> Or WikiSource...
[19:29] <sonia> Qcoder00: librivox?
[19:30] <Qcoder00> sonia: True. but they tend to concenctrate on thier own area, Not on doing other recording
[19:30] <barts1a> Logan_: Here it is as boldly restored after the deletion discussions:
[19:30] <purplebackpack89> link me to that when you make it...purplebackpack89 is my regular handle
[19:30] <purplebackpack89> tp msg me
[19:31] <Qcoder00> purplebackpack89:  Probably eaiser if you drop a note to User_Talks:Sfan00_IMG on wiki, I tend not to remember IRC conversations
[19:31] <purplebackpack89> that yo handle?
[19:31] <Qcoder00> *User Talk: sorry
[19:31] <Qcoder00> On wiki yes
[19:31] <Logan_> *User talk:
�06[19:31] * purplebackpack89 is on the family desktop, which doesn't have a mic
[19:31] <Qcoder00> Ihave 2 SUL's , Sfan00_IMG and ShakespeareFan00
[19:31] <SigmaWP> !admin
[19:32] <SigmaWP> Who wants to email emergency?
[19:32] <Fluffernutter> uh, you?
�06[19:32] * purplebackpack89 wants to throw his laptop down a mine shaft
[19:32] <Fluffernutter> but that'sa  serial socker, i believe
[19:32] <Qcoder00> Saldy in terms of voice acting I can't do that well
[19:32] <TParis> I suppose I will
[19:32] <Logan_> I think that's a troll.
[19:32] <Qcoder00> *I can do 'insane' characters too well, but I can't do others...
[19:32] <Qcoder00> (re voice acting)
[19:33] <SigmaWP> Fluffernutter: [15:24] SigmaWP Does the existence of RS in an article assert significance and importance?
[19:33] <Gfoley4> TParis: no need to
[19:33] <SigmaWP> [15:25]	SigmaWP	[15:25] Ks0stm Not necessarily...for AfD standards no, for CSD standards yes
[19:33] <Logan_> Anyway, he's behind tor. There's nothing you can do about it.
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[19:33] <Gfoley4> they're aware.
[19:33] <Fluffernutter> SigmaWP, no
[19:33] <SigmaWP> Yes.
[19:33] <Qcoder00> purplebackpack89:  Re the Holmes,  the problem I have is in finding someone that 'Sounds' like Watson
[19:33] <Fluffernutter> Ther existence of a RS has very little to do with significance. the only deletion the mere existence of a RS can get an article around is BLP prodding
[19:33] <Qcoder00> because most of the recordings I've heard, sound wrong
[19:33] <TParis> Gfoley4: Ok
[19:34] <purplebackpack89> aomebody who sounds pompous and British?
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[19:34] <Qcoder00> A bit
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[19:34] <Qcoder00> I had thought about using a female voice on the Holmes stuff and re-framing it by making out it was grand-duaghter reading from archives or something
[19:35] <Ks0stm> Fluffernutter: My reasoning was that a third-party reliable source (non trivial) would indicate enough significance to get around an A7 type deletion, but not necessarily notability that would avoid AfD deletion
[19:35] <SigmaWP> Fluffernutter: Then A7 is stringenter than BLPPROD?
[19:35] <Qcoder00> purplebackpack89:  BTW Me knows producing audio isn't as simple as plugging in a computer mic and taping though
[19:35] <SigmaWP> Oh yeah, I forfrgot
[19:36] <Fluffernutter> Ks0stm, did you look at the article in question? It made no assertion of importance at all. It said basically "Brandon harris is a programmer who works for the wikimedia foundation." Literally, that was all it said.
[19:36] <Qcoder00> purplebackpack89:  It took me an entire afternoon to master a 30 sec sound for something once...
[19:36] <Pancetta> Fluffernutter: And I thank you for deleting it. I was prepared to make a lengthy argument arguing for its deletion.
[19:36] <Fluffernutter> SigmaWP, BLP prod and speedy deletion are two different processes
[19:36] <Qcoder00> purplebackpack89:  Do you have an e-mail?
[19:36] <purplebackpack89> i can understand that this could take a fair amount of time
[19:36] <TParis> Fluffy: is a programmer is clearly a claim of significance.  Hence why I am working on my article right now.
[19:36] <purplebackpack89> yeah
[19:37] <Fluffernutter> TParis, heh
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[19:37] <Pancetta> TParis: Not it isn't. *I'm* a programmer. I don't deserve a Wikipedia article.
[19:37] <SigmaWP> Fine
[19:37] <purplebackpack89> i think I link to it on the "Email me" page
[19:37] <SigmaWP> Fine.
[19:37] <SigmaWP> 1 second
[19:37] <TParis> Pancetta, didn't you hear?  We all get Wikipedia articles now.
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[19:37] <Qcoder00> Something I'd also like to try and get started is a  Wikisonic workshop ;)
[19:37] <Steven_Zhang> sIGH
[19:37] <Pancetta> When you write my Wikipedia article, can you fudge my date of birth to say I'm 21? It's cheaper than a fake ID.
[19:37] <Qcoder00> To make some  REALLY odd sounds ;)
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[19:38] <TParis> Pancetta, only if I can find a reliable source.  Do you have a facebook?
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�06[19:38] * Nascar1996 is halfway done with his Geometry homework.
[19:38] <purplebackpack89> i wrote an article for the school paper once...guess I'm covered RSwise
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[19:39] <Qcoder00> OK Next question
[19:39] <PiRSquared> TROLLER202@enwiki matches badword \btroll:
[19:39] <Qcoder00> How many people here know how to make odd sounds?
[19:39] <TParis> I can make fart sounds.
[19:39] <TParis> With my butt...
[19:39] <sonia> huh
�06[19:39] * Nascar1996 can.
[19:39] <Fluffernutter> hah
[19:39] <sonia> there are two pages of news coverage of me
[19:40] <sonia> odd
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[19:40] <Qcoder00> TParis: I meant more in the sens of being able to make ths sounds of an hive colony
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[19:40] <TParis> Sorry, can't do that.  But when you need farts, let me know, ok?
[19:41] <TParis> Geeze, I feel like my humor is underappreciated here.  Maybe I should go find some kindergardeners.
[19:41] <Nascar1996> 5 questions  to go.
[19:41] <Qcoder00> I found a technical article on what frequencies bees sing at and was wanting someone to use poetic licence and make a track in the vien of the Radiophonic :)
[19:41] <Qcoder00> Nascar1996:  5 questions on what?
[19:41] <SigmaWP> 10 min
[19:41] <SigmaWP> trying to figure something out
[19:41] <Nascar1996> On my Geometry homework.
[19:41] <purplebackpack89> TParis, if you want immature ppl, may I suggest the astrology WikiProject?
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[19:42] <TParis> Have they found out about the change in astrology signs yet?
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[19:42] <TParis> I'm still a Leo, but just barely.
[19:42] <sonia> there's a change??
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[19:42] <TParis> Supposedly.
[19:42] <PiRSquared> Due to procession?
[19:43] <TParis>
[19:43] <Ceradon> I need to ask something of an administrator privately
[19:43] <PiRSquared> * precession
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[19:45] <sonia> wait, so I'm a gemini now?
[19:45] <sonia> o_o.
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[19:45] <Fluffernutter> Someone rang for OS?
[19:46] <Ceradon> I guees thats for me
[19:46] <sonia> Qcoder00: email addy? I just on-a-whim recorded the lede of Venus, I can send it to you. No clue what you want of it, but hey
[19:46] <Nascar1996>
[19:46] <Nascar1996> Earthquake 6.0 ^
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[19:47] <Pancetta> :o
[19:47] <Qcoder00> Sonia: See query
[19:47] <Nascar1996> Earthquake was in the Philipines.
�03[19:47] * Eating is now known as Logan_
[19:48] <Nascar1996> Might have caused a tsumami.
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�06[19:49] * Nascar1996 doesn't think so, but...
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[19:54] <SigmaWP> Fluffernutter: Ping
[19:54] <Fluffernutter> yes?
[19:54] <SigmaWP> Fluffernutter: Ping
[19:55] <Fluffernutter> yes, SigmaWP. What.
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[19:55] <SigmaWP> Fluffernutter: Ping
[19:55] <Gfoley4> behave.
[19:56] <Nascar1996> ?
[19:56] <SigmaWP> Fluffernutter: Ping
�06[19:56] * SigmaWP grumbles
[19:56] <SigmaWP> Fluffernutter:
[19:56] <Logan_> SigmaWP: Calm down.
[19:56] <SigmaWP> Delete that as A7?
[19:57] <Fluffernutter> uh, why would i *A*7 the sandbox?
[19:57] <{Soap}> lol
[19:57] <Logan_> XD
[19:57] <Gfoley4> �XD
[19:57] <Nascar1996> WTH?
[19:57] <Logan_> Nascar1996: Exactly.
[19:58] <{Soap}> it looks like someones trying to break the record for citation overkill
[19:58] <Nascar1996> Hey Logan_
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[19:58] <Logan_> Sup.
[19:58] <{Soap}> (though theyre pretty far short of the record if so)
[19:59] <Gfoley4> {Soap}: He's just being butthurt for Fluffernutter deleting his page.
[19:59] <Nascar1996> \What is the record?
[19:59] <{Soap}> ah
[19:59] <{Soap}> the record for most citation overkill is probably
[19:59] <Logan_> Nascar1996: A record is an analog sound storage medium consisting of a flat disc with an inscribed, modulated spiral groove.
[20:00] <Nascar1996> Eh.
[20:00] <Logan_> Yeah, I know, I prefer digital music as well.
[20:00] <Nascar1996> 282?
[20:00] <Demiurge1000> Hmm, if the groove wasn't spiral, it would just play the same very short piece of music over and over again. I might try that.
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[20:01] <Gfoley4> Logan_: do you have an iPod?
[20:01] <Logan_> Ew.
[20:01] <Nascar1996> Gfoley4: Do you?
[20:01] <Gfoley4> iPhone would count, so yes.
�06[20:01] * Nascar1996 wants an iphone.
�06[20:02] * sonia would rather something she doesn't need to jailbreak.
[20:02] <Logan_> Where's wctaiwan?
[20:02] <Logan_> I need to vent.
[20:02] <Nascar1996> However, his father says he doesn't have enough funds to pay $960 a year for a cell phone.
[20:02] <sonia> ...
[20:02] <Logan_> :P
[20:02] <sonia> Nascar1996: yeah, that's sensible :p
[20:02] <Gfoley4> sonia: do you need to jailbreak a iPhone?
[20:02] <SigmaWP> Damn CZ
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�06[20:02] * sonia has a hundred-dollar phone and pays about $10 a month.
�06[20:03] * Nascar1996 suggests we stop having a land-line phone.
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[20:03] <Logan_> Landline quality is still much better at my house.
[20:03] <Logan_> (Unfortunately.)
[20:03] <{Soap}> $960 a year ?
[20:03] <SigmaWP> Fluffernutter: Pong?
[20:03] <Demiurge1000> Something has happened to Kudpung.
[20:03] <{Soap}> thats $80 a month
[20:03] <Nascar1996> Yes.
[20:04] <Logan_> That's reasonable.
[20:04] <Nascar1996> {Soap}: That is how much AT&T charges for the Iphone.
[20:04] <Fluffernutter> what, SigmaWP
[20:04] <SigmaWP>
[20:04] <{Soap}> no, you can get it for $55 a month
[20:04] <Nascar1996> From where.
[20:04] <{Soap}> and even $25 if youre on a family plan
[20:04] <Nascar1996> *?
[20:05] <Logan_> {Soap}: ...with data?
[20:05] <Logan_> Not the iPhone.
[20:05] <{Soap}> $10 for the line and $15 for the data
[20:05] <{Soap}> I work selling cellphones, trust me
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[20:05] <Logan_> Which carrier? o_O
[20:05] <{Soap}> AT&T
[20:05] <Logan_> But that's not all-inclusive.
[20:05] <Nascar1996> How, send me a message {Soap}
[20:05] <Logan_> For a new, individual plan.
[20:05] <{Soap}> additional lines on a family plan are $10 for the base price, and then $15 if you want data
[20:05] <{Soap}> ah well thats different
[20:06] <Nascar1996> Family plans are like $140 a month.
[20:06] <Nascar1996> XD
[20:06] <Logan_> It's really too bad that so many carriers have been ditching unlimited data.
[20:07] <sonia> you guys had unlimited data?
[20:07] <Nascar1996> Sprint still has it. I think its stupid that they even charge us for that. You can download almost any app on the Ipod, and you don't have data charges.
[20:07] <sonia> duuuude
[20:07] <Pancetta> Not that anyone NEEDS unlimited data. I am a very heavy user and I never manage to use more than 300MB a month.
[20:07] <Logan_> sonia: Yeah.
[20:07] <Logan_> I still have it on Verizon, even though they killed it for new customers.
[20:07] <{Soap}> Sprint is the only major American contract cell provider that still offers unlimited data
[20:07] <sonia> it costs like forty dollars here for ten gigs of landline broadband
[20:07] <{Soap}> eek
[20:08] <{Soap}> where is that?
[20:08] <Logan_> I pay $30/mo. for unlimited on Verizon.
[20:08] <sonia> NZ
[20:08] <{Soap}> wait, thats not so bad
[20:08] <Logan_> Which now gets you 2 GB.
[20:08] <{Soap}> especially if youre giving it in NZ dollars
[20:08] <{Soap}> in America broadband providers will give you huge amounts of data ... 200 GB / month is typical ... but it can get expensive if you want it to be fast
�06[20:08] * sonia shrugs, she switched to just using mobile itnernet most of the time
[20:08] <sonia> it's throttled, {Soap}
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[20:09] <{Soap}> I would never buy Verizon if I wasnt getting it at a discount from my employer
�03[20:09] * Logan_ is now known as Eating
[20:09] <{Soap}> theyre the greediest of all the major carriers
[20:09] <{Soap}> imo
[20:09] <Nascar1996> My father pays $20 a month for my GoPhone from At&T, then pays $30 for himself. (All monthly) Then he pays for a Tracphone for my mother.
�03[20:09] * SigmaWP is now known as chewing
[20:09] <chewing> Who wants to swallow?
�03[20:09] * {Soap} is now known as swallowing
[20:09] <swallowing> me
[20:09] <chewing> :D
[20:09] <chewing> Nascar1996: /nick digesting
[20:10] <sonia> o_o
[20:10] <Nascar1996> Uh, no.
[20:10] <sonia> Soap swallows?
[20:12] <swallowing> sure
[20:12] <swallowing> : }
�03[20:12] * Queen is now known as digesting
[20:12] <swallowing> ah
[20:12] <swallowing> who's brave enough to go to the next step in the chain
[20:12] <digesting> lol
[20:13] <chewing> We'll need someone to /nick toilet
[20:13] <Nascar1996> Or shitbowl. LOL
[20:13] <digesting> I think toilet would be more appripriate.
[20:13] <Nascar1996> lol
�06[20:14] * Nascar1996 isn't going to get the bad end of the food.
[20:14] <Pancetta> I AM THE ORIGINAL.
�03[20:14] * Nascar1996 is now known as drink
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[20:16] <Nascar1996> I volunteer sonia to be toilet.
[20:16] <sonia> I recuse.
[20:17] <Nascar1996> f?
[20:17] <Gfoley4> f.
[20:17] <Nascar1996> How about Gfoley4
[20:17] <Gfoley4> No.
[20:18] <Fluffernutter> whut
[20:18] <Nascar1996> Fluffernutter!!!!
[20:18] <Fluffernutter> whut
[20:18] <Gfoley4> +q for you!
[20:18] <Nascar1996> Change your nick to toilet.
[20:18] <Fluffernutter> no
[20:19] <Nascar1996> ok
[20:19] <Fluffernutter> nice having this little chat with you
[20:19] <Nascar1996> How about Addihockey.
[20:19] <Gfoley4> ugh.
[20:19] <Nascar1996> Yep.
[20:20] <Nascar1996> Well, there will be no toilet, chewing, swallowing, and digesting.
[20:21] <Pancetta> #wikipedia-en-digestivetract
[20:21] <Nascar1996> ?
[20:21] <digesting> No toilet there either
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�03[20:23] * chewing is now known as SigmAway
[20:23] <Nascar1996> Ugh.
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[20:23] <Gfoley4> Hypocrite much?
[20:24] <digesting> Hi Seahorse
[20:26] <Nascar1996> ...
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[20:26] <Nascar1996> digesting need to go back to Queen...
�03[20:27] * digesting is now known as Queen
[20:27] <Queen> Someone just assaulted my cat
[20:27] <Queen> With salt
[20:27] <Nascar1996> Oh poor thing.
[20:27] <Pancetta> as-salted.
[20:27] <Queen> She started chirping
[20:27] <Pancetta> Salted Caramel Tabby
[20:28] <Fluffernutter> mm caramel
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[20:28] <Pancetta> Salted caramel is the greatest.
[20:28] <Pancetta> Regrettably, Starbucks often times fucks it up and makes it not all that salty.
[20:29] <Pancetta> Peppermint mocha was invented by Jesus, however.
[20:29] <Pancetta> We drink it around the time of his observed birthday to commemorate his contributions to progressive rock.
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�06[20:31] * Nascar1996 wants PIE!
[20:31] <Pancetta> Before Jesus came along, no good band dared to drive American cars. But that all changed!
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[20:31] <Pancetta> Nowadays, you can't even get close to the recording studio without seeing an impressive fleet of Fords, Chryslers, and Jeeps.
[20:32] <Nascar1996> No Chevrolets?
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[20:32] <Nascar1996> Pancetta ^
[20:32] <Pancetta> Shit, I knew I was forgetting one.
[20:32] <Nascar1996> lol
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[20:33] <Nascar1996> Damn it, where I'm talking to you all, I will not be able to finish my homework. Eh.
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[21:01] <Steven_Zhang> SigmaWP:
[21:02] <SigmaWP> What do you want
[21:02] <SigmaWP> Where's that mop?
[21:02] <SigmaWP> MoP
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[21:03] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: ?
[21:03] <Steven_Zhang> SigmaWP: i have a new signature.
[21:03] <Steven_Zhang> :-)
[21:03] <SigmaWP> So?
[21:03] <Steven_Zhang> dude.
[21:03] <Steven_Zhang> I've had the same sig for three years :P
[21:03] <matthewrbowker> Steven_Zhang: Wow...
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[21:04] <SigmaWP> Steven Zhang The clock is ticking.... 23:45, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
[21:04] <SigmaWP> Lies
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[21:04] <Steven_Zhang> I haven't used it yet.
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[21:06] <SigmaWP> !admin,_Melchoir&redirect=no&rcid=477086961#
[21:06] <sonia> gah
�06[21:06] * sonia unstalks
[21:06] <Steven_Zhang> You stalk !_admin?
[21:06] <Steven_Zhang> me too :D
�06[21:06] * slon02 looks with confusion at SigmaWP
[21:06] <Fluffernutter> you do not need to use the stalkword for routine CSDs
�06[21:06] * matthewrbowker does too.
[21:06] <Gfoley4> fucker…
[21:06] <Alpha_Quadrant> Steven_Zhang: sonia /is/ an admin though
[21:07] <Steven_Zhang> fucky
[21:07] <SigmaWP> At least it's being speedily deleted
[21:07] <Steven_Zhang> no she is not :P
�06[21:07] * Gfoley4 looks at Fluffernutter.
[21:07] <SigmaWP> Like it should be.
[21:07] <sonia> I'm a sysop on simple.
[21:07] <sonia> we use the same stalkworkd.
[21:07] <Gfoley4> :(
�03[21:07] * Eating is now known as Logan_
�06[21:07] * Fluffernutter looks at Gfoley4
[21:07] <Steven_Zhang> ah
[21:07] <SigmaWP> Now, I have a large list of A7s for you all....
[21:07] <Steven_Zhang> well, by that note
[21:07] <Steven_Zhang> i am an admin on test.wikipedia :P
�06[21:07] * SigmaWP puts Fluffernutter in the microwave
[21:07] <Fluffernutter> stalkword abuse angers The Powers That Be
�06[21:07] * Logan_ is angry.
[21:07] <slon02> ...I could have sworn that you were an admin
[21:07] <Alpha_Quadrant> Steven_Zhang:
[21:07] <Fluffernutter> angry powered people get oppy
�03[21:07] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Logan_
[21:08] <Gfoley4> hah
[21:08] <TParis> Is there an oversight stalkword?
[21:08] <sonia> yes.
[21:08] <Gfoley4> ! oversight
[21:08] <sonia> and it's exactly what you ...yeah
�06[21:08] * Fluffernutter kicks Gfoley4
[21:08] <Logan_> !oversight
[21:08] <TParis> :D
�03[21:08] * ChanServ sets mode: -o Logan_
[21:08] <Gfoley4> you stalk "oversight"
[21:08] <Gfoley4> ?
[21:08] <SigmaWP> Logan_: :|
[21:08] <Logan_> SigmaWP: Sup.
[21:08] <sonia> while all the admins are here
[21:08] <sonia> can someone delete all my talk page archives?
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[21:08] <TParis> Sonia: no
[21:08] <sonia> I'mma restructure
[21:08] <sonia> easy work, hey :
[21:08] <TParis> I don't think talk page archives can be deleted...
[21:08] <Logan_> Special:Delete
[21:08] <sonia> they can.
[21:08] <TParis> I think they fall under the same protection as talk pages...
[21:09] <sonia> because the history need not be preserved
[21:09] <sonia> because there isn't any :P
[21:09] <Gfoley4> Logan_: no such thing.
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[21:09] <sonia> a user can reserve the right to have archives or not have archives.
[21:09] <Gfoley4> it's &action=delete.
[21:09] <SigmaWP> Logan_: Clearly your lack of knowledge about deletion shows that you should never do it
[21:09] <SigmaWP> yeah
[21:09] <Logan_> Gfoley4: Don't deny me.
[21:09] <Fluffernutter> deny him three times
[21:09] <Fluffernutter> before dawn
[21:10] <Logan_> SigmaWP: Love you too. <3
[21:10] <SigmaWP> And your lack of understanding of english.....
[21:10] <Logan_> Logan speak English very good.
[21:10] <Steven_Zhang> Fluffernutter is an oversighter :P
[21:11] <sonia> Fluffernutter: plz delete my user talk archives? :3
[21:11] <Fluffernutter> er
�06[21:11] * Fluffernutter points at the other admins
[21:11] <sonia> bad meatpuppet, no hesitate :p
�06[21:12] * sonia hides from the ops.
[21:12] <Fluffernutter> heh
[21:12] <Steven_Zhang> ew it kinda looks crap
[21:12] <Logan_> sonia: Hide, now.
[21:12] <Steven_Zhang> SigmaWP:
[21:12] <Logan_> Angry Logan op is angry.
[21:12] <TParis> Alright, Sonia, you're right, my bad.  I recalled something about user talk archives not being deleted but WP:DELTALK says that archives are only not deleted if they were created by a page move.
[21:12] <sonia> ah, okay :)
[21:12] <TParis> Figured you were right, it makes sense, but I had seen it somewhere.
[21:13] <SigmaWP> AAAAAHHHHHH
[21:13] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: UGLY SIG
[21:13] <Steven_Zhang> yeh
[21:13] <SigmaWP> Change it to something like mine
[21:13] <Gfoley4> No shouting.
�06[21:13] * SigmaWP screams
�06[21:13] * Fluffernutter sighs
[21:14] <Fluffernutter> Gfoley4, did you forget to put the shock collars on them tonight?
[21:14] <TParis> Sonia: You tag em and I'll delete em
[21:14] <slon02> I like the words "provide a consensus"
�06[21:14] * SigmaWP kicks Fluffernutter for failing to enforce the will of A7
[21:14] <sonia> TParis: do I really need to? :p
[21:14] <sonia>
[21:14] <TParis> I suppose not :P
[21:14] <Gfoley4> SigmaWP: I'd stop.
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[21:15] <SigmaWP> LL2|JedIRC: Does x10host (or whatever) allow people to use python stuff?
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[21:16] <TParis> done, minus the archivebox
[21:16] <sonia> great, thank you!
[21:16] <SigmaWP> WHAT?
[21:17] <SigmaWP> that isn't allowed
[21:17] <SigmaWP> is it?
[21:17] <sonia> yes it is
[21:17] <Steven_Zhang> you had your talk archives deleted?
[21:18] <Steven_Zhang> technically allowed, because the revisions are still in the talk history
[21:18] <Pilif12p> SigmaWP: no
[21:18] <SigmaWP> What?
[21:19] <TParis> SigmaWP: WP:DELTALK
[21:20] <SigmaWP> Oh.
[21:20] <SigmaWP> Cut/paste archives
[21:20] <Steven_Zhang> yea
[21:20] <Steven_Zhang> i archive my pages manuall
[21:20] <Steven_Zhang> always have
[21:20] <Steven_Zhang> always will
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[21:21] <Peter-C> go to bed
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[21:21] <Dragonfly6-7> you realize she's been idle over an hour, yes?
[21:21] <Peter-C> No
[21:21] <Dragonfly6-7> she's already gone to bed, she just forgot to log out.
[21:21] <Peter-C> I just got here :P
[21:21] <Peter-C> No need to hate :P
[21:22] <Pilif12p> so did he
[21:22] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: Your signature is painfully blue.
[21:22] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: How about making it darker?
[21:22] <Steven_Zhang> like black?
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[21:22] <SigmaWP> Dark blue
[21:22] <SigmaWP> Like in my signature.
[21:23] <Dragonfly6-7> how about you subsume your esthetic values to mine?
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[21:26] <Fluttershy-EN> ok
[21:26] <SigmaWP> Fluttershy-EN: Hi
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[21:30] <Dragonfly6-7> my signature is:
[21:30] <Dragonfly6-7> I don't care. It's just my intiials.
[21:30] <Dragonfly6-7> in plain text.
[21:31] <Dragonfly6-7> I have more important things to worry about than a fancy signature.
[21:31] <Dragonfly6-7> same reason I have 0 userboxes.
[21:31] <Pancetta> I have a minimally stylized signature, but that's more to get people to pronounce my username correctly. My user page is a picture of a trail in Maryland.
[21:32] <matthewrbowker> Dragonfly6-7: That's OK, each to his own.  Mine is just green text with a <sup>Say hi!</sup> after it.
[21:32] <Pancetta> How gawdy.
[21:33] <SigmaWP> Στc.
[21:34] <Pancetta> I like that.
[21:34] <Pancetta> Though I would add a space between the sigma and the TC so that people don't think your name is Etc.
[21:34] <SigmaWP> Hm.
[21:34] <SigmaWP> I'll play around with it
[21:35] <Steven_Zhang> how long till the eelections are over?
[21:35] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: Hopefuly not long
[21:36] <SigmaWP> eeekster: I love you
[21:38] <SigmaWP> Pancetta: Adding a space makes it look uneven
[21:38] <Pancetta> I don't see what you mean by "uneven" -- signatures are found in running text.
[21:39] <SigmaWP> It just looks... odd
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[21:39] <SigmaWP> Or maybe I'm just used to it
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[21:40] <Dragonfly6-7> hey, Sven_Manguard
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[21:40] <Sven_Manguard> Hey
[21:40] <Sven_Manguard> wow
[21:41] <Sven_Manguard> forgot I left this open when I went to sleep
[21:41] <Pilif12p> hi Sven_Manguard
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[21:41] <SigmaWP> sonia: Nice signature from 2010
[21:41] <sonia> ?
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[21:41] <SigmaWP> Just saw your archive come up
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[21:42] <SigmaWP> LL2|JedIRC: Does x10hosting allow python stuff to be hosted there?
[21:42] <Sven_Manguard> ohai sonia
[21:42] <LL2|JedIRC> SigmaWP: psst! am I allowed to purge Wikipedia's cache of a page? :P
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[21:42] <SigmaWP> yes...
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[21:43] <LL2|JedIRC> SigmaWP: probably, though I don't think they have support for python scripts
[21:43] <Peter-C> Oh lord
[21:43] <SigmaWP> Humph.
[21:43] <Pilif12p> SigmaWP: python stuff is basically useless without shell
[21:43] <SigmaWP> LL2|JedIRC: They have python shell right?
[21:43] <Pilif12p> python is a scripting language, for the most part.
[21:43] <SigmaWP> That #!usr/asdfasdfasfdsaf right?
[21:43] <Peter-C> I am trying to explain to my friend he needs throttle to take off
[21:43] <[AFK]> Hola Sven_Manguard
[21:44] <LL2|JedIRC> SigmaWP: not that I know of
[21:44] <SigmaWP> Hmph.
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[21:44] <sonia> o/ Sven_Manguard
[21:45] <LL2|JedIRC> They have PHP, which can be used for irc shit too!
[21:45] <sonia> I stole the format of your voter guide btw
[21:45] <sonia> hoep you don't mind
[21:45] <Sven_Manguard> JoeGazz84 never, ever talk to me again. Period. I don't care what it's about, I never want to hear from you again.
[21:45] <Sven_Manguard> sonia of course I don't mind
[21:46] <SigmaWP> Calm down
[21:46] <Alpha_Quadrant> that was a nice guide you made. I found it quite informative
[21:46] <sonia> cool
�06[21:46] * SigmaWP likes voter guides
[21:46] <SigmaWP> It's fun to see what people say about NWA.Rep
[21:46] <Alpha_Quadrant> heh
[21:47] <LL2|JedIRC> Heh, I just found something awesome in my favs
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[21:47] <Peter-C>
[21:47] <LL2|JedIRC> [21:55] <Seriema> I am going to kill mIRC [21:56] <cooldude13233> dont taze it bro!
[21:47] <LL2|JedIRC> XD
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[21:49] <SigmaWP> Sven_Manguard: Nice voter guide
[21:49] <mono> oh hi Sven_Manguard
[21:49] <Sven_Manguard> Thank you. I put a lot of effort into it
[21:50] <mono> Shall I vote?
[21:50] <SigmaWP> mono: For anyone other than NWA.Rep
[21:50] <mono> I wonder if I even qualify.
[21:50] <mono> NWA?
[21:50] <Sven_Manguard> mono: yes you do
[21:50] <Alpha_Quadrant> SigmaWP: that page needs to go to MfD now
[21:50] <Sven_Manguard> NWA.Rep has broken just about ever rule I can think of except creating copyvios
[21:50] <SigmaWP> Alpha_Quadrant: I'm waiting for the elections to be over... all in good time.
[21:51] <mono> linky
[21:51] <Alpha_Quadrant> SigmaWP: why wait?
[21:51] <SigmaWP> mono:
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[21:51] <SigmaWP> Same thing, except one's in userspace
[21:51] <mono> not a slinkly like that internet commercial
[21:51] <mono> to the voting, sigma
[21:51] <SigmaWP> Alpha_Quadrant: I don't want him to start a shit ANI thread about me sabotaging his election
[21:51] <SigmaWP> It's burned to the ground already, so there's not much to sabotage anyway, but...
[21:51] <Alpha_Quadrant> SigmaWP: ok, I'll send it to MfD
[21:52] <SigmaWP> mono:
[21:52] <SigmaWP> Alpha_Quadrant: There's some information on his talk page
[21:52] <SigmaWP> that might aid you in the MfDing
�03[21:52] * N1996|HMWK is now known as Nascar1996
[21:52] <Nascar1996> I finished my homework.
[21:53] <Pilif12p> i own the nick homework.
[21:53] <Pilif12p> ooh.
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[21:54] <mono> I have way more opposes
[21:54] <homework> Really?
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[21:54] <Tannerbaum> yes
�03[21:54] * SigmaWP is now known as Communism
[21:54] <Communism> Tannerbaum: Share. Now.
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[21:55] <Tannerbaum> Nascar1996: told you
�06[21:55] * Nascar1996 noticed that now. :-P
[21:55] <Communism> Alpha_Quadrant: Are you sure you don't want to add some stuff from NWA's talkpage?
�03[21:55] * Nascar1996 is now known as HMWK
[21:55] <HMWK> Haha.
[21:56] <HMWK> Tannerbaum ^
[21:56] <Tannerbaum> yes, very good
�03[21:56] * HMWK is now known as N1996
[21:56] <Alpha_Quadrant> Communism: I already sent it to MfD
[21:56] <Alpha_Quadrant> feel free to add on
[21:56] <N1996> Well, Good night everyone. :-)
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[21:57] <LL2|JedIRC> Oooo
[21:57] <mono> No on Panyd, Kirill Lokshin, Geni, DeltaQuad, SilkTork, Kww, and everyone else except Courcelles and Risker.
[21:57] <LL2|JedIRC> I own the nick _NyanCat_
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[21:58] <LL2|JedIRC> Damnit, he left already
[21:58] <Communism> Alpha_Quadrant: I'd rather not
[21:59] <Alpha_Quadrant> Communism: worried about retribution from him?
[21:59] <Communism> Alpha_Quadrant: Worried about ANI/
[21:59] <Communism> .
[21:59] <Alpha_Quadrant> eh, don't be too concerned about that
[21:59] <Gfoley4> O.o
[21:59] <LL2|JedIRC> Tannerbaum: Oooh I own the nick _NyanCat_
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[22:00] <Communism> LL2|JedIRC: Share.
[22:00] <mono> OK, voted. I don't care whether it's public.
�08[22:00] * derp breaks wind.
�06[22:00] * Communism uses duct tape on the broken wind
�06[22:00] * LL2|JedIRC bbreaks the tape
[22:01] <mono> No on Panyd, Kirill Lokshin, Geni, DeltaQuad, SilkTork, Kww, and everyone else except Courcelles and Risker.
[22:01] <Communism> mono: Didn't you say no to NWA???
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[22:01] <{Soap}> I didnt make any opposes
[22:01] <Pancetta> y u no like krill :(
[22:01] <Communism> jorm: Quickly, use your COI-office-action-powers and undelete!
[22:01] <LL2|JedIRC> Y U DO DIS
[22:01] <Communism> And it was out of process.
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[22:01] <Communism> And against WP:CSD.
�08[22:01] * derp huggles mono tightly.
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[22:02] <Communism> The presence of reliable sources establishes significance!
[22:02] <Pancetta> Articles have to ASSERT significant.
[22:02] <Pancetta> significance.
[22:02] <Pancetta> Also, to be blunt, you're coming off as incredibly creepy right now.
[22:03] <LL2|JedIRC> OH SHIT SON
[22:03] <Pancetta> << Document ALL the Wikipedians!
�08[22:03] <derp> SigmaWP :D
[22:03] <LL2|JedIRC> And all your base!
[22:03] <Tannerbaum> why can't this channel be mature anymore
[22:03] <LL2|JedIRC> :P
[22:03] <Communism> Pancetta: I included 3 RS.
[22:03] <LL2|JedIRC> Because we never were
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[22:03] <Pancetta> But did you assert the significance of the article subject?
[22:03] <LL2|JedIRC> There is no mature version to revert to
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[22:04] <Tannerbaum> LL2|JedIRC: there was at one point
[22:04] <mono> Communism: everyone except Courcelles and Risker were nos
[22:04] <jorm> what ami undeleting?
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[22:04] <Communism> Ah.
[22:04] <Jeske_Merensky> *RAEG*
[22:04] <LL2|JedIRC> Tannerbaum: nope
�06[22:04] * Netalarm huggles Jeske_Merensky 
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[22:04] <LL2|JedIRC> That point was revdel'd for making too much sense
�06[22:04] * Jeske_Merensky whines. The sumatriptan is not working
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[22:05] <Tannerbaum> LL2|JedIRC: trust me. there was.
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[22:05] <LL2|JedIRC> Tannerbaum: it was revdel'd though
[22:05] <Communism> jorm: You.
[22:05] <mono> - the DHS cares more about copyright infringement and groping people at airports than actually stopping illegal immigration
[22:05] <Jeske_Merensky> There is no kung fu maneuver called "McGwire Swings for Fences".
[22:05] <LL2|JedIRC> Communism: Him.
[22:06] <jorm> Yes. Because engaging the community's wrath over that is something I think is a good idea.
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[22:07] <Communism> Yay!
[22:08] <mono> It's time for a new theme.
[22:08] <LL2|JedIRC> Good, jorm.
[22:09] <mono> Vector is too 2009.
[22:09] <Tannerbaum> monobook ftw
�08[22:09] <derp> mono, i'm designing a theme btw
[22:09] <jorm> for the enterprising among you, however, i could provide you with sufficient references and sources that an article about me *could* stick, but you'd probably have to combine it with Nexus War.
[22:09] <jorm> mono:
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[22:10] <Pancetta>
[22:10] <Communism> (4th nomination)
[22:10] <Logan_> jorm: have you seen your new "banner?"
�03[22:10] * Retrieving #wikipedia-en modes...
[22:10] <jorm> (it always pissed me off that no one ever mentioned the write up NW had in playboy.)
[22:10] <Communism> i'm going to play nexus war
[22:10] <Communism> AAAHHH
[22:10] <mono> derp: linky?
[22:11] <jorm> the article got deleted by people who don't know shit about browser based games.
�08[22:11] <derp> mono, it's on my internal web server
�08[22:11] <derp> it's still buggy
�06[22:11] * Peter-C steals jorms mustache wax
[22:11] <mono> screenshot
�08[22:11] <derp> but it combines HTML5 elements.
�08[22:11] <derp> And i'm trying to code WebGL for Commons :P
[22:12] <PiRSquared17> Bye
�08[22:12] <derp> bye PiRSquared17 <3
[22:12] <Communism> Bye
[22:12] <nprice> yes hello
[22:12] <Netalarm> hey jorm, is there an update on QuickComments or GlobalProfile?
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[22:12] <mono> I like the different layers (three dimensional elements); the UI elements need some polish (the mockup software isn't perfect)
[22:12] <jorm> there is an athena prototype that brion is building.
[22:12] <jorm> quickcomments is probably DOA.
[22:13] <mono> I also like the minimalism of
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[22:13] <jorm> GlobalProfile is in the "Planned" hopper, but it will be a while until we have development resources to take it on.
[22:13] <jorm> those movingbrands guys don't know what they're doing.
�08[22:13] <derp> mono, for the minimalist theme, i can whip up something in HTML5 to animate that W
[22:13] <Netalarm> heh
[22:13] <jorm> the simple fact that there isn't a *hint* of a language switcher on that screen should tell you that.
[22:13] <mono> they're not UX designers and I dislike the logo, but the minimalism is nice
[22:14] <jorm> the ONLY people who are not multi-lingual in the world are americans, really. and some brits.
[22:14] <mono> jorm: how many people use that, in terms of viewers?
[22:14] <jorm> over 70%
[22:14] <mono> interesting
[22:14] <Peter-C> What was Nexus War?
[22:14] <jorm> 70+% of our readers and editors are bi-lingual.
[22:14] <mono> never used it myself
[22:14] <jorm> and a HUGE percentage of those are tri-lingual.
[22:14] <mono> although I am bilingual
[22:15] <jorm> it was a browser-based mmorpg that i wrote and maintained in the mid-2000s.
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[22:15] <jorm> 80k userbase.
[22:15] <Communism> jorm: Can you bring it back, so me and Peter-C can play?
[22:15] <Communism> :D
[22:15] <Peter-C> :3
[22:15] <jorm> the first mmorpg of its kind to use ajax calls, etc.
�08[22:15] <derp> mono, jorm, want to see HTML5 & WEbGL on Wiki?
[22:15] <jorm> i cannot.  it cost way too much to run.
[22:15] <Peter-C> How so?
[22:15] <Communism> Aww.
[22:16] <Communism> But you're getting Jimbo Coins!
[22:16] <mono> - I sort of like the project switcher, focus on search, etc.
[22:16] <mono> derp sure
[22:16] <jorm> guys, seriously, you should go look at Athena.
[22:16] <jorm> and leave comments and ideas there on the talk page.
�08[22:16] <derp> btw, you need a really good browser, since it includes a browser check
[22:16] <Peter-C> Why would I check out Athena....
�08[22:16] <derp> I accept Chrome, Firefox & Safari only.
�06[22:16] * Communism shrugs
[22:16] <jorm> was talking to derp and mono
[22:16] <mono> I definitely will and I could help out with the CSS and stuff
[22:17] <Netalarm> but Vector is relatively new... already need a new theme?
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[22:17] <mono> less would be an option; a light and dark style would be neat
�06[22:17] * Peter-C tosses confetti around
[22:17] <mono> Vector looks old already. We need a new theme every other year.
[22:17] <jorm> well. yes.
[22:17] <jorm> that happened last night.
[22:17] <Peter-C> You act like it is nothing :P
[22:18] <Jeff_G> Congrats, jorm!
[22:18] <jorm> that was 24 hours ago for me, son! keep up.
[22:18] <mono> jorm: have you considered using responsive and fluid design for this?
[22:18] <jorm> yesterday was kind of epic.
[22:18] <jorm> mono, have you read the document?  because it is.
[22:18] <Communism> mono: Just use css
[22:18] <jorm> keep reading.  Athena is not just a mobile skin.  It's a responsive, adaptive, new way of thinking about Wikipedia.
[22:18] <Peter-C> Between the whole proposal, the press, and the birthday thing
[22:18] <Peter-C> it makes sense
[22:18] <jorm> at the bottom there's a link to ta talk given about it, and then a link to brion's prototype.
[22:19] <jorm> exactly, peter.
[22:19] <jorm> i woke up knowing that the "birthday" and "proposal" thing were likely to happen.
[22:19] <Peter-C> The press was the cherry on top
[22:19] <jorm> the problem was that i wasn't sure the ring was going to arrive.  i had planned on the 28th for a long time.
[22:19] <jorm> right.
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[22:19] <jorm> and it ALMOST screwed the pooch, actually.
[22:19] <mono> haven't gotten there yet, looksinteresting
[22:19] <Peter-C> :s
[22:19] <Peter-C> fucking press
[22:19] <mono> derp how soon can you show me?
�08[22:20] <derp> mono, still working out kinks
[22:20] <jorm> see, the ring was supposed to arrive on the 22nd.  but it got delayed, and i was told "will arrive on the 28th"
[22:20] <jorm> the 28th is significant because it's teh 2 year anniversary of our first date, see?
[22:20] <Dragonfly6-7> S&M, or bestiality?
[22:20] <Peter-C> :O
[22:20] <Peter-C> Wait, I am confuzzeled
[22:20] <jorm> so i had planned on working from home on monday, so i could get the ring when it arrived.  only the press thing happened, and i had to go to the office.
[22:20] <Peter-C> Did they FedEx it...
[22:20] <Communism> Ks0stm: You gonna delete or not?
[22:20] <Peter-C> or to the store?
[22:21] <jorm> no, they mailed it.
[22:21] <Ks0stm> Communism: Sorry, what?
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[22:21] <Communism>
�06[22:21] * mono runs to download them all before the revdel
[22:21] <jorm> see, i had it designed.  and then a 3d model made.  and then had it 3d-printed in silver.
[22:21] <nprice> i have finally applied for my wikipedia irc cloak :P
[22:21] <Communism> Still has two pages for you
[22:21] <Peter-C> Holy crap
[22:21] <jorm> it was a confluence of events.
[22:21] <Ks0stm> Communism: Oh, yeah, sidetracked
[22:21] <Peter-C> Must be one hell of a ring
[22:22] <Communism> Ring of fire.
[22:22] <Ks0stm> Communism: That better?
[22:22] <jorm> well, it's got some deeply personal symbology to it.
[22:22] <Communism> Excellent!
�08[22:22] <derp> Who wants Ice cider?
[22:22] <jorm> plus: it's from The FUTURE.
[22:22] <Peter-C> jorm - Where did you do it?
[22:22] <Ks0stm> Communism: I have a friend who would love to have either that nickname or Socialism. =P
[22:23] <Communism> :P
[22:23] <Jeff_G> jorm, this 3d model, is it visible on the web?
[22:23] <jorm> oh. the actual proposal was kind of lame. by the end of the day i was all, "so, here's this, i want you to be my wife, say yes, and that will be the best birthday present."
[22:23] <jorm> not yet.  i'll post a jpeg or something later.
[22:23] <mono> it's not built yet, but it's at
[22:23] <Peter-C> lame
[22:24] <Peter-C> and she said yes?
[22:24] <Pancetta> jorm: That's a good proposal idea, actually. I'mma steal it from you.
[22:25] <jorm> heh.  actually, she started to say "nooooo" because she always does that when i buy her gifts.  and then she said yes.
�03[22:25] * mono is now known as Capitalism
[22:25] <jorm> that "oh man, you shouldn't have...."
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[22:25] <Capitalism> yo, them occupiers should go home
[22:26] <Peter-C> Were you wearing the good mustache wax?
[22:26] <Netalarm> hmm, is LQT 3 ready?
[22:26] <Peter-C> :3
[22:26] <Communism> It's time to duel!
[22:26] <jorm> no.
�06[22:26] * Communism takes out a nuclear rifle
[22:26] <Communism> Capitalism: Prepare to die!
[22:26] <jorm> LQT is also in the "to do" hopper but probably after GlobalProfile.
�06[22:26] * Jeff_G nukes Communism with a Joe McCarthy Fatboy. :)
[22:27] <Netalarm>
[22:27] <Netalarm> ^ shows for us all!
�06[22:27] * Communism is too skinny to be squished by a fatboy
[22:27] <nprice> ugh the lcd cable in my macbook pro just got a short
[22:27] <jorm> funny. someone just asked an LQT 3.0 question on quora.
�06[22:27] * Capitalism takes out his wallet and buys Communism
[22:27] <nprice> this is making editing in bed highly difficult :P
�06[22:27] * Peter-C demands the ring model
�06[22:28] * Communism shares the money
�06[22:28] * nprice wishes people would stop using ACTION
�08[22:28] * derp is doing action.
[22:28] <nprice> i suppose technically it's \001ACTION
�06[22:29] * Capitalism helps Communism through his Socialist identity crisis
[22:29] <nprice> take it to #defocus
[22:31] <Alpha_Quadrant> nprice: could take it to #wikimedia-tech
[22:31] <Communism> I want to play nexus war now
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[22:31] <Peter-C> I wanna get kitties
[22:31] <Peter-C> box fulls of kitties
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[22:31] <Logan_> Hey Brian.
[22:32] <Peter-C> and let them loose in the server rooms
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[22:32] <ReconEtc> I don't suppose anybody else has been having problems with Twinkle not opening a new tab with that setting set? I think it might just be 'cause Chrome isn't respecting target="_tab" but I have no idea.
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[22:32] <ReconEtc> . . . no, I just tested that, Chrome respects that target
[22:33] <Communism> Please read: A personal appeal to Wikipedia programmer Brandon Harris
[22:33] <Communism> Can I have the source of nexus war?
[22:34] <jorm> No, I'm sorry.
[22:34] <jorm> Here's why:
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[22:34] <jorm> Too much of the intellectual property I actually want to retain ownership (read: control) of is bound up in the source code.  The engine is, unfortunately, NOT story-agnostic.
�08[22:35] * derp hugs jorm
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[22:35] <Communism> Aw.
[22:35] <jorm> i could give up the IP rights, but in doing so, i would open it up for anyone to do . . . bad things with it.
[22:35] <jorm> and i don't want to actually screw with people's memories.
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[22:36] <jorm> there are successor games which have recieved my blessing, and you can play them if you like.  Nexus Clash is one of them.
[22:36] <Communism> Yay!
�08[22:36] <derp> jorm, with that experience in video game coding, why don't you join a studio?
[22:37] <jorm> i've worked for two major game companies in my life - SSI and Electronic Arts.
[22:37] <jorm> i am soured on them.
�08[22:37] <derp> Try Ubisoft...
[22:37] <jorm> wait. three. i did a lot of work for an online sports simulation game.
[22:37] <Capitalism> derp: are we there yet?
[22:37] <jorm> i forgot about that.  that ended poorly.
[22:38] <jorm> not on my end; the company just pivoted and all my work got put to pasture.
[22:38] <Peter-C> Games suck
[22:38] <Peter-C> Simulators are the best
[22:38] SpamTunes stopped.
[22:38] <Peter-C> Most are indie companies
�08[22:38] <derp> then start your own studio, hire people, then sell all assets and become rich :P
[22:38] <Peter-C> And the come out with exelent products
[22:39] <Pancetta> Most things in life ARE indie companies, but they are, as they say, the 99%.
[22:40] <Steven_Zhang> oom
[22:40] <Tannerbaum> Steven_Zhang is out of memory?
�08[22:41] -> *jorm* i'm working on a secret project...
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[22:41] <HallowsAG> !oversighter
[22:41] <Capitalism> derp: are we there yet?
�08[22:42] <derp> no
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[22:42] <HallowsAG> !oversight
[22:42] <Communism> HallowsAG: It's !oversight
[22:42] <Communism> Yeah
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[22:42] <Fluff|away> HallowsAG, yes?
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[22:44] <Steven_Zhang> lol
�06[22:44] * Fluff|away waits
[22:44] <Steven_Zhang> HallowsAG: ... ^
�08[22:44] * derp porks Fluff|away
[22:44] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[22:44] <Steven_Zhang> porks or pokes
[22:44] <HallowsAG> Wait
[22:44] <Fluff|away> he's a porky sort of person
[22:45] <HallowsAG> Fluff|away: Are you an oversighter?
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[22:46] <Fluff|away> yep
�08[22:46] <derp> She is
�08[22:46] <derp> ni n i my loves <3
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�06[22:47] * Tannerbaum glomps Fluff|away 
[22:48] <Fluff|away> yes hello
�06[22:48] * Fluff|away sends Tannerbaum off to bed
[22:49] <Tannerbaum> no
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[22:50] <Steven_Zhang> HallowsAG: maybe ask Fluff|away what you want :P
[22:50] <Steven_Zhang> though in PM
[22:50] <Steven_Zhang> :P
�06[22:50] * Jeff_G wonders what nprice has against ACTION
�08[22:50] * derp likes the action.
�08[22:50] <derp> and i do like getting SOME actio 
�08[22:50] <derp> and i do like getting SOME action :P
[22:51] <HallowsAG> Steven_Zhang: I already did.
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[22:51] <Jeff_G> A simple "handled via PM" would have been helpful. :)
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[22:52] <causasui> Hi wiki
[22:52] <Jeff_G> hi causasui
[22:54] <Communism> hi
[22:54] <Steven_Zhang> Wiki?
[22:55] <Communism> Fetchcomms knows too much css hacks
�06[22:55] * Communism goes to steal some
[22:55] <Jeff_G> This is an irc channel, but it is ostensibly related to English Wikipedia, when it's serious.
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[22:56] <Gfoley4> ?
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[22:56] <Tannerbaum> Communism: does he?
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[22:56] <Communism> Tannerbaum: Such as turning the date on its side
[22:56] <Tannerbaum> oh
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[22:58] <Jeff_G> Turning the date on its side is a good stepping-stone to achieving extra bases with the date. :)
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