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Session Start: Thu Oct 13 16:38:27 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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�03[16:38] * Set by SigmaWP!~math@wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma on Sun Oct 09 19:53:27
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[16:46] <Theo10011> It's slow today, huh.
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[16:48] <LauraHale> Yes
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�08[17:03] * derp huggles LauraHale tightly.
�06[17:04] * LauraHale huggles derp
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�06[17:11] * Fluffernutter wants pie
[17:12] <KimiNewt> this is new how
[17:12] <Fluffernutter> i didn't say it was new. everyone sane wants pie.
[17:12] <WilliamH_UK> tastes better with coolhwip
[17:14] <Fluffernutter> HEATHEN
[17:14] <KimiNewt> coochwhip
[17:14] <Fluffernutter> coolwhip tastes like garlic to me, actually. i figure it must be one of the chemicals in it
[17:14] <KimiNewt> what is that from?
[17:14] <KimiNewt> A sitcom or something
[17:14] <WilliamH_UK> i've never tried it in my life, i'm just saying it how stewie griffin says it
[17:14] <KimiNewt> where someone can't say coolwhip
[17:14] <KimiNewt> oh, it's from family guy?
[17:14] <KimiNewt> I am ashamed
[17:15] <Fluffernutter> as well you should be
[17:15] <Mike_H> Fluffernutter, flashbacks for Laura!
�06[17:15] * Mike_H NP: Herb Alpert - Rise (1979)
[17:15] <Fluffernutter> eh?
[17:15] <Mike_H> Fluffernutter, "Rise"
[17:16] <Fluffernutter> ??
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[17:16] <Qcoder00> Anyone know if doing a lot of Wikipedia editing gives you a strange dizzy sensation like your head wants to fall over?
[17:16] <Mike_H> Upon release, the song received an unexpected burst of promotion: Jill Phelps, musical director of the ABC soap opera General Hospital, decided to use "Rise" as the musical backdrop for the rape of Laura Webber by Luke Spencer. For several weeks afterward, the recording was played on the show to evoke the memory of Luke's act. The added exposure in an extremely popular program boosted sales to the point of selling more th
[17:17] <Mike_H> Fluffernutter, Rise is a very good song in its own right but I can't help but think "oh that's Laura's rape song" :|
[17:17] <Fluffernutter> oh, you're talking about the show
[17:17] <Fluffernutter> i never actually watched it
[17:17] <Mike_H> yeah
[17:17] <KimiNewt> Laura's rape song?
[17:17] <Fluffernutter> only heard about it from my sister
[17:18] <Mike_H> KimiNewt, when Laura was raped by Luke at the disco on General Hospital
[17:18] <Mike_H> back in 1979
[17:18] <Mike_H> this song was playing in the background
[17:18] <KimiNewt> That's awful!
[17:18] <Mike_H> and they used it a lot, and the song was pushed to #1 as a result
[17:18] <Mike_H> on the pop chart
[17:18] <KimiNewt> Wait, there was rape on television in 1979?!
[17:18] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: General Hospital?
[17:18] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, yes
[17:18] <Qcoder00> Which Soap is that?
[17:19] <Qcoder00> The one sent up without mercy in Tootsie?
[17:19] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, General Hospital is now the longest-running soap on US daytime TV
[17:19] <Mike_H> lol no
[17:19] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, they never did say which soap that Tootsie based their parody on, but the whispers at the time was that it was actually Search for Tomorrow.
[17:19] <Qcoder00> The 'soap' in Tootsie is 'Southwest General' and it was my understanding it was a send up on ONE of the then airing US soaps
[17:20] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, it was probably a hodgepodge of all soap stereotypes
[17:20] <Qcoder00> Note in terms of awful daytime soaps....
[17:20] <Mike_H> perhaps it was General Hospital though
[17:20] <Mike_H> at the time it was one of two hospital soaps.
[17:20] <Mike_H> and it was the highest rated one.
[17:20] <Qcoder00> Over here in the UK Sunset Beach wasn't taken too seriously... ;)
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[17:21] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, General Hospital was a really big soap in the late 1970s/1980s in the US
[17:21] <Mike_H> a lot of people watched it then, far more people than who watch them now
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[17:23] <Qcoder00> Being UK based, the 'soaps' I've seen tend to be 'serial drama'  of the British/Australian design.....
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[17:24] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, in the beginning, US soaps were more like the British ones, in the sense that not everyone was pretty and it dealt with real problems
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[17:24] <Mike_H> but it was Dallas and Dynasty that really did a number on our soaps, they never recovered and they became stupid and "glamorous"
[17:24] <Qcoder00> But now some soaps seem to be more like 'romance' telenovela?
[17:24] <KimiNewt> being jewish, the 'soaps' I've seen tend to be ancestral
[17:24] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, well, soaps were always about love
[17:25] <Mike_H> The 1970s and 1980s birthed the idea of the "one true couple" ideal, or the "supercouple"
[17:25] <Gfoley4> o shit
[17:25] <Mike_H> in fact General Hospital back then, Luke and Laura, that is probably the best known supercouple
[17:25] <Mike_H> despite the fact that he raped her, she fell in love with him and they were married
[17:25] <Gfoley4> I tried plugging the charger into my laptop and it made a blue spark :(
[17:25] <Mike_H> Gfoley4, :\
[17:26] <Qcoder00> Anyhow , I'm here on IRC, because I was doing a lot of image stuff and my head started to feel dizzy
[17:26] <Qcoder00> :(
[17:26] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, and a lot of people were emotionally invested in Luke and Laura, so all the other soaps ended up creating at least one "supercouple" to try to get the same success
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[17:26] <KimiNewt> Qcoder00 - I would like acknowledgement of my joke.
[17:26] <Qcoder00> Do extended periods of wiki-editign give you headaches?
[17:26] <Mike_H> All My Children created the first black "supercouple" for example
[17:26] <Qcoder00> KimiNewt:  I didn't understand it
[17:26] <KimiNewt> They made soaps out of jews in the holocaust
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[17:26] <Mike_H> KimiNewt, wat
[17:27] <Qcoder00> I don't make holocaust jokes
[17:27] <KimiNewt> or something, might be an urban legend
[17:27] <KimiNewt> but it's a very famous one if it is
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[17:27] <Peter-C>
[17:27] <Qcoder00> HI Peter-C
[17:27] <Qcoder00> About that script?
[17:27] <The_Thing>
[17:28] <Peter-C> Qcoder00 - SORRY!
[17:28] <Qcoder00> No worries...
[17:28] <Peter-C> I keep getting sidlined with homework >:(
[17:28] <KimiNewt> There should be no limitations on comedy!
[17:28] <Qcoder00> I was waiting for e-mail
[17:28] <Qcoder00> KimiNewt:  I thought making 'holocaust' jokes in Israel was controversial?
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[17:29] <KimiNewt> Your computer having only 64KB of RAM, you couldn't have your IRC client and browser open at the same time..
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[17:29] <KimiNewt> No.. it's just a dark joke? Like one you'd make about murder or rape?
[17:29] <Qcoder00> Erm... ok
[17:29] <KimiNewt> fine, not rape. paedophilia
[17:29] <Qcoder00> :O
[17:30] <KimiNewt> I guess those do intersect though
[17:30] <Mike_H> KimiNewt, hm, I found a US soap opera clip
[17:30] <Mike_H> with subtitles in Hebrew and Arabic
[17:30] <KimiNewt> Okay?
[17:30] <Mike_H> I assume this was for Israeli consumption
[17:30] <KimiNewt> I would assume the same
[17:31] <Qcoder00> KimiNewt:  A friend of mine gets worried about shrinks...  for some reason she think both Physcotherapist and Hypnotherapist might be sex offenders.. XD
[17:31] <KimiNewt> You should introduce her to my therapist, Dr. Funke.
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[17:32] <KimiNewt> He is also an analyst. He styles himself as an "analrapist"
[17:32] <Qcoder00> Ouch
[17:32] <KimiNewt> I'm not ashamed of repeating that joke, at all!
[17:33] <Peter-C> o.o
[17:33] <Daedalus969> I need someone to semi protect my user talk; being harassed.
[17:34] <The_Thing> ...............
[17:34] <WilliamH_UK> hiya Daedalus969
[17:34] <The_Thing> lolgadgets
[17:34] <The_Thing> I could certainly live without my phone for a while
[17:34] <Qcoder00> KimiNewt:  Did you here about the mass muderer that used toxic cornflakes?  The press dubbed him a  'Cereal Killer' !!! XD
[17:34] <The_Thing> ...because the only person who ever calls is my dad... the most annoying person you could possibly know
[17:34] <Qcoder00> Hello Thing
[17:35] <The_Thing> He'll call 7 or 8 times in a row, over and over and over again.
[17:35] <KimiNewt> I don't use my phone for actual conversations or texting at all.
[17:35] <KimiNewt> I don't have any friends and my family doesn't call
[17:35] <The_Thing> Or call all 3 of our phones at once on a multi-way call
[17:35] <KimiNewt> But I do need one because I get calls from the military. Often in the middle of the night. It's very relaxing.
[17:35] <Qcoder00> Domestic 3 way?
[17:35] <Qcoder00> I thought that wasn't possible?
[17:36] <KimiNewt> I heard it's illegal in several US states
[17:36] <Qcoder00> :)
[17:36] <Daedalus969> Could you take care of it, William, or are you just a clerk?
[17:36] <Qcoder00> But not Utah ? XD
[17:36] <The_Thing> Military calls in the middle of the night are relaxing? :P
[17:36] <Daedalus969> I can't remember, it's been too long.
[17:36] <The_Thing> Well, if it was, my dad wouldn't give two shits about it.
[17:36] <KimiNewt> That's just one of my many jokes, The_Thing
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[17:37] <KimiNewt> Every time my phone rings it's the same process
[17:37] <KimiNewt> *ring* "Ohnoohnoohno" *looks at phone*
[17:37] <Qcoder00> KimiNewt: You are almost as fast as I am on jokes :)
[17:37] <WilliamH_UK> Daedalus I can
[17:37] <KimiNewt> "Unlisted number" -- "Fuck!"
[17:37] <WilliamH_UK> but it looks like someone is already on it
[17:38] <KimiNewt> If it's in 3am, I skip straight to stage 3
[17:38] <KimiNewt> **at
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[17:40] <WilliamH_UK> Daedalus969 - still needing assistance?
[17:41] <Daedalus969> Not any more, but thank you.
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[17:49] <matthewrbowker> If anyone has any free time, [[CAT:PEND]] is backlogged by about 250 submissions...
[17:54] <The_Thing> nyan nyan nyan nyan. nyan nyan nyan nyan. nyan nyan nyan nyan.
�06[17:54] * matthewrbowker sees rainbows
[17:54] <Qcoder00> matthewrbowker:   Real ones?
[17:55] <Qcoder00> Like after a storm? or did you take too many happy pills?
[17:55] <matthewrbowker> Qcoder00:
[17:55] <matthewrbowker> (Reference to The_Thing's comment)
[17:56] <Qcoder00> Erm...
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[17:56] <Qcoder00> If you can have Nyan
[17:56] <Qcoder00> Am I allowed Badgers?
[17:57] <harej> Qcoder is a Wisconsin fan.
[17:57] <harej> Go Badgers!
[17:57] <Qcoder00> harej:  Actually  -
[17:57] <harej> I don't recognize any YouTube links to Badgers.
[17:57] <harej> I only recognize the original Flash animation!
[17:57] <Qcoder00> Badger Badger is a classic Weebl anim
[17:57] <Qcoder00> That's become a meme
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[17:58] <Fluffernutter> oh damn, i forgot to buy mustard
[17:58] <harej> Dude, I remember when it was new.
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[17:58] <harej> Alvin GREENE is on the SCENE
[18:00] <Qcoder00> - LSD Lab? XD
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[18:03] <Peter-C>
[18:04] <Peter-C> harej - how is life?
�08[18:04] * derp gives Peter-C some poutine.
[18:04] <harej> Peter-C, the one time I got to eat in the Senate cafeteria, I had Senate Bean Soup, even though it was over a hundred degrees outside.
[18:05] <harej> It was this past summer. Friend was a House Committee intern. He invited me to lunch.
�08[18:06] <derp> yay
�08[18:07] <derp> corrupt politicians.
[18:07] <harej> Politicians don't eat at any of the cafeterias. *Their staff* do.
[18:07] <harej> And Hill staffers work like dogs, so the least they should get is a subsidized lunch.
[18:08] <Qcoder00> Your Tax Dollars at work?
[18:08] <Qcoder00> :)
[18:08] <Qcoder00> Feeding staffers?
[18:08] <harej> Not feeding them, just allowing them the option to eat cheap food on-site.
[18:08] <Qcoder00> I thought lizards didn't need feeding much anyway?
[18:08] <Qcoder00> XD
[18:08] <harej> The staffers are predominantly young professionals, often times under 30.
[18:09] <Qcoder00> I thought lizard only ate other rats ? XD
[18:09] <Qcoder00> <rimshot>
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[18:09] <harej> The Congressmen and Senators themselves are highly-functioning 7th graders.
�08[18:09] <derp> What happens if a politcian has criminal charges against him?
[18:09] <harej> derp: Usually they resign.
[18:09] <Qcoder00> derp:  Well first you have to prove the charges are genuine
[18:09] <Qcoder00> and then ensure his party doesn't have amajority in the house
[18:09] <Qcoder00> ;)
[18:10] <harej> Qcoder00: Usually the indictment itself is grounds for a Congressman to resign. His name is ruined.
�08[18:10] <derp> heh
�08[18:10] <derp> :P
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�08[18:10] <derp> harej, tldr: a québec politician has been expelled from its party after the use of a credit card belonging to a company
[18:10] <Crazynas> Qcoder00: of course there's always the court of public opinon
[18:10] <Qcoder00> LOL
[18:10] <Qcoder00> I thought in the US that was  'congressional' perk ?
[18:10] <Qcoder00> XD
[18:11] <harej> Right derp. We don't usually expel people from parties here. We sooner primary them.
�08[18:11] <derp> a lot of political figures are calling for him to resign
[18:11] <Qcoder00> derp: What did he do with this card, order red wine with fish? XD
[18:11] <Crazynas> derp: company as in private corp?
�08[18:12] <derp> Crazynas, yep
�08[18:12] <derp> a security company
�08[18:12] <derp> Tomassi is accused of unlawfully using a credit card belonging to security firm BCIA to buy gasoline while he was the provincial family minister.
[18:12] <Mike_H> the TV has a commercial on advertising a George Jones concert
[18:12] <Mike_H> is he really not dead yet
[18:12] <Qcoder00> Who is George Jones?
[18:12] <Crazynas> derp: did he have a controlling (stock) interest in it or were they working for him?
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[18:13] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, an alcoholic country singer
[18:13] <Mike_H> remember that Tammy Wynette song "Stand By Your Man"?
[18:13] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: Well it's probably the fumes he's running on ;)
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[18:13] <Mike_H> he was her "man"
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[18:13] <Mike_H> they had a really destructive marriage
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�08[18:13] <derp> Crazynas, basically, BCIA paid a lot of things to him
�08[18:14] <derp> including a car, gas
�08[18:14] <derp> in exchange for contracts.
[18:14] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: Don't Country signers find God?
[18:14] <Qcoder00> *singers
[18:14] <Crazynas> lol, nice
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�08[18:14] <derp> yeah
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[18:14] <harej> Qcoder00: Rocket ships, Model T cars, and jars of beers. Never forget that.
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[18:14] <harej> Oh! And babies. Don't forget the babies.
[18:14] <Qcoder00> harej: ??
[18:15] <Mike_H> derp,
�08[18:15] <derp> here, it's a impeachement procedure if the politician has been condemned to more than 3 years of jail
�08[18:15] <derp> the 3 charges against him are worthy of 5.
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[18:15] <harej> That seems too complicated derp. Assuming the member has no sense to resign, a house can just call for the member's expulsion.
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[18:16] <harej> Expulsion is incredibly rare.
�08[18:16] <derp> harej, the PM did himself the expulsion out of his party
[18:16] <harej> Expulsion from the government I mean.
�08[18:16] <derp> ah 
�08[18:16] <derp> no idea
[18:16] <harej> Removal from office.
�08[18:16] <derp> he didn't resign, he didn't show up for meetings at all.
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�08[18:17] <derp> guess he wants that golden parachute
�08[18:17] <derp> heh
[18:18] <harej> Oh moon of Alabama, we now must say goodbye.
�06[18:18] * Peter-C pokes harej
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[18:19] <harej> PeTeR
[18:19] <Mike_H> harej, :o
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[18:19] <Peter-C> How are ya?
[18:19] <harej> Decent.
[18:19] <Peter-C> Swell
[18:19] <Peter-C> How is school?
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[18:19] <harej> Not failing out yet!
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[18:19] <Peter-C> :D
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[18:20] <Mike_H> derp, dance with me, Jolene
�06[18:20] * Mike_H NP: Dolly Parton - Jolene (1973)
[18:20] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: You listen to a lot of ocuntry?
[18:20] <Qcoder00> *country
[18:21] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, I don't prefer newer country but the standards, sure
[18:21] <Qcoder00> Also Mike_H, sorry to sound like a complete amnesiac, but you are the magazine publisher I was taking to the other night?
[18:21] <Mike_H> yes
[18:21] <Qcoder00> OK
[18:22] <The_Thing> I HAVE NYANED FOR 204.3 SECONDS!
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[18:23] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, you can't be a Southerner and have no appreciation for Hank, or Patsy, Dolly, Tammy, Reba, etc.
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[18:23] <Qcoder00> Yeah
[18:23] <Peter-C> How do I use JSTOR?
[18:23] <Ks0stm> Would anyone willing to please answer interviews for English papers my partner and I have to write about Wikipedia? They are located at and
[18:24] <Peter-C> I need to browse marketing articles
[18:24] <Peter-C> And I have no idea how too
[18:24] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, Reba is my favorite :)
[18:24] <Mike_H> she is a cutie patootie
�06[18:24] * Qcoder00 ponders if you get 'female mimic artists' that do Country singers numbers :)
�06[18:24] * WilliamH_UK appreciates Dolly
[18:25] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, mimic artists?
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[18:25] <Qcoder00> In entertainment you have various grades of  'female impersonation'
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[18:25] <Mike_H> oh you mean like drag queens
[18:26] <Peter-C> harej - help me!
[18:26] <Mike_H> yes in the South there are some drag queens who will do Reba, or Dolly
[18:26] <Qcoder00> You have Showy Drag Queens at one end, at the other you have artists that DO actually try to sound like the artist concerned :)
[18:26] <Peter-C> JSTOR is making me mad :(
[18:26] <harej> I honestly don't know how JSTOR itself works.
[18:26] <Mike_H> they have both went on record as saying they get tickled pink when they see queens do that :>
[18:26] <Peter-C> D:
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[18:26] <Qcoder00> I'm not realy a fan of the really showy queens
[18:26] <Peter-C> Fluffernutter - use JSTOR for me
[18:26] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, very rarely in the US do drag queens sing their own songs.
[18:26] <Fluffernutter> i have no JSTOR access
[18:26] <Mike_H> They usually just lip-sync the recordings.
[18:27] <Peter-C> What is this >:(
[18:27] <Qcoder00> I prefer what's termed ' female impersonation'  when the artists DO write thier own material
[18:27] <Fluffernutter> why would I? i'm not in school
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[18:27] <Peter-C> You edit Wikipedia
[18:27] <Qcoder00> Here in the UK 'drag' tends to be more based on music hall routines than it's about lip-sync
[18:27] <Qcoder00> so a lot of the UK drag performers write thier own material
[18:27] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, in the US it's a lot about the look and a lot about the stage presence than it ever is about the music
[18:28] <Mike_H> the more "draggy" of stage presence, out there and crazy, the better
[18:28] <Qcoder00> For 'drag queens' yes...
[18:28] <Qcoder00> For 'female mimics' less so... I've been told
[18:28] <Fluffernutter> nah, i don't edit wikipedia, i just whack moles
[18:28] <Mike_H> we don't really differentiate between the two here, the ones who sing can, and the ones who don't don't
[18:28] <harej> I don't edit Wikipedia either. I just troll.
[18:28] <Mike_H> like RuPaul can sing
[18:28] <Mike_H> she is still a drag queen.
[18:28] <harej> RonPaul
[18:29] <Qcoder00> LOL
[18:29] <Qcoder00> XD
[18:29] <Mike_H> harej, Michele Bachmann
[18:29] <Mike_H> it is time for you
[18:29] <Mike_H> to LIP SYNC FOR YOUR LIFE
[18:29] <Mike_H> and don't f*** it up.
[18:29] <harej> Michele Bachmann probably is a drag act and no one knows it.
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[18:29] <Qcoder00> Didn't Mad TV do a spoof about  politicians in drag once?
[18:29] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, RuPaul's Drag Race is the best thing that ever happened to me
[18:30] <Qcoder00> Even though I'm slightly transgender, I can't sing :(
[18:30] <Mike_H>
[18:30] <Trusilver> That was an odd thing to walk in to? Lip Sync for your life?
[18:30] <Trusilver> Is that like "The Running Man"?
[18:30] <Qcoder00> When i sing I end up sounding like an out of tune synth
[18:30] <Mike_H> Trusilver, it's how RuPaul decides which queen to eliminate each week
[18:30] <Mike_H> on RuPaul's Drag Race
[18:30] <Trusilver> ah! okay
[18:30] <Mike_H> the two worst ones of the week "lip sync for their lives," and the one with the best performance is saved
[18:31] <Mike_H> or she gets to "chante you stay"
[18:31] <Mike_H> while the other "sashays away"
[18:31] <Mike_H> Trusilver,
[18:32] <Qcoder00> TruSilver: More like Running Woman ;)
[18:32] <Qcoder00> And you try moving at speed in heels ;)
[18:32] <Qcoder00> XD
[18:32] <Mike_H> Qcoder00,
[18:33] <Mike_H> RuPaul's music video (including the three best queens from Drag Race 2)
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[18:33] <Mike_H> the final challenge each season is to be in a music video with Ru
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[18:34] <Qcoder00> :)
[18:34] <Qcoder00> Actually when i was seriously looking into doing a 'drag' act for someones party, I was seriously considering using a  voice synth, as I can't sing...
[18:35] <Qcoder00> .. I mean an alien transgender doesn't nessacrily have earth vocal range ;)
[18:35] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: Do you know who Lilly Savage is?
[18:36] <Mike_H> no
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[18:37] <Hdiuf8938> Hello
[18:37] <Qcoder00> Lilly Savage is a UK drag performer, the style is noticably different from US queens
[18:37] <Hdiuf8938> Hello.
[18:37] <Hdiuf8938> is anyone here.
[18:37] <Hdiuf8938> no
[18:37] <Qcoder00> Hdiuf8938:  Hello
[18:37] <Hdiuf8938> i'm bored.
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[18:37] <Hdiuf8938> because no one is here.
[18:37] <Hdiuf8938> i'm going to talk to myself.
[18:37] <Qcoder00> People are here
[18:37] <Hdiuf8938> lol
[18:37] <Hdiuf8938> hahahaha
[18:38] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, RuPaul is probably the most popular living drag queen in the US today
[18:38] <Mike_H> Divine was popular as an actress but he is dead
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[18:38] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: [[Lilly Savage]]
[18:38] <Qcoder00> Drag artists in the UK tend to be less bitchy
[18:38] <Hdiuf8938> when did all these people get here? i thought it was just me.
[18:38] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, RuPaul calls himself the "grandmother" of drag queens and references himself as "just under 200 years old"
[18:38] <Qcoder00> :)
[18:38] <Mike_H> in real life he is 50.
[18:39] <Qcoder00> In the UK there are drag performers that were older than that...
[18:39] <Qcoder00> Like Danny la Rue
[18:39] <Hdiuf8938> what happens if i revert this edit because the page number is accurate?
[18:39] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, oh there are more regional or local drag queens who are older than 50 for sure, but not many well-known national ones
[18:40] <Qcoder00> But as I said in the UK , a lot of 'drag' stuff is more from variety theatre than it's own thing
[18:40] <Mike_H> ah
[18:40] <Qcoder00> Drag acts (UK) that I've seen USE a LOT of former music hall routines and musical tracks :)
[18:40] <Mike_H> see, drag in its current form in the US pretty much dates from the civil rights movement beginnings in the 1960s
[18:40] <Mike_H> although it has gone on for longer and people like to say "it started with Shakespeare"
[18:40] <Qcoder00> Here in the UK, 'drag' is more based on variety theatre and music hall
[18:41] <Qcoder00> Or at least the  more visible side of it is
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[18:41] <Mike_H> The big drag centers in the US were in San Francisco and New York, that was where it started well before the 1960s
[18:41] <Mike_H> but it was the 1960s and 1970s that spread it nationally
[18:41] <Qcoder00> OK
[18:41] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: You should try and see some UK 'drag' acts sometime...
[18:41] <Mike_H> ok
[18:42] <Qcoder00> As I said the entire style is VERY different from the US
[18:42] <Hdiuf8938>  How come WhatamIdoing didn't revert this edit? I thought banned users get all edits reverted?
[18:42] <Qcoder00> Also some UK  drag stuff can be  much more viciously satirical ;)
[18:43] <Qcoder00> (Which comes from it's musichall roots)
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[18:43] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, oh yeah, US drag is pretty much confined to performances to pop songs and perhaps emceeing events
[18:43] <Mike_H> the louder and more vulgar, the better
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[18:43] <Trusilver> Wow... I'm gaining an education about drag culture that I didn't really know existed...
[18:43] <Qcoder00> UK drag is a LOT wider...
[18:44] <Hdiuf8938>  How come WhatamIdoing didn't revert this edit? I thought banned users get all edits reverted?
[18:44] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, RuPaul is a pretty classy drag queen, she doesn't really "talk dirty" during her performances
[18:44] <Qcoder00> In fact , UK drag performers , as well as lip sync , will do  musical numbers,   stand up etc...
[18:44] <Mike_H> "I do classy, I don't do trashy"
[18:44] <Qcoder00> .. Some drag performers in the UK will even do the bingo numbers ;) XD
[18:44] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, see, the last bits are not required
[18:44] <The_Thing> nyan nyan nyan nyan. nyan nyan nyan nyan. nyan nyan nyan nyan.
[18:44] <Hdiuf8938> How come WhatamIdoing didn't revert this edit? I thought banned users get all edits reverted?
[18:44] <Mike_H> although it is considered someone is more well-rounded if they can
[18:45] <Fluffernutter>, why would you put caffeine in mascara? beauty industry, you've gone too far
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[18:45] <Trusilver> Evening Ironholds
[18:45] <Mike_H> Fluffernutter, for drag queens, bar close can be as late as 4 a.m.!
[18:45] <Ironholds> evening, sah
[18:45] <Trusilver> or morning
[18:45] <Ironholds> *peers at clock*
[18:45] <Fluffernutter> yes but it's not goint to soak in through your eyelashes!
[18:45] <Ironholds> I'm informed it's evening
[18:45] <Qcoder00> Fluffernutter :  Hmm
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�06[18:46] * Qcoder00 wonders if they make special makeup specially for drag queens
[18:46] <Mike_H> No.
[18:46] <Fluffernutter> can't imagine why tnhey'd need to
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[18:47] <Hdiuf8938> How come it only says long-term abuse on the block log? who is the sockmaster?
[18:47] <Mike_H> Drag queens usually use theater makeup or just regular female makeup.
[18:47] <Ironholds> ARGH
[18:47] <Trusilver> I tried to talk Fluffernutter into testing out/abusing her newfound power by oversighting you out of existance, but she didn't.
[18:47] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: Thanks
�06[18:47] * Ironholds punches wall
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[18:47] <Ironholds> after *three months* WMUK gets back to me about my scholarship money
�06[18:47] * Crazynas notes that there are OS on IRC now :)
[18:47] <Ironholds> "Hey, Oliver, we've worked it out now thanks to the figures you sent us! Where do we send the money?"
[18:47] <Qcoder00> Mike-H: I've had problems finding certain  make-up items here in the UK
[18:47] <Ironholds> bank account details were in THE SAME EMAIL AS THE FIGURES
[18:47] <Fluffernutter> no there aren't! you're imagining it!
[18:48] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, a lot of my drag friends can't say enough about Sephora
[18:48] <Mike_H> they love Sephora
[18:48] <Mike_H> is there Sephora in the UK?
[18:48] <Qcoder00> Don't think so
[18:48] <Hdiuf8938> i'm bored. i'm bored. i'm bored. i'm bored. i'm bored. i'm bored. i'm bored.
[18:48] <Qcoder00> I've always used 'No 7' a local cosmetics brand
[18:48] <Trusilver> Don't you love it when the government asks you repeatedly for thei nformation that you've given them several times?
�06[18:48] * Crazynas notes that one hasn't found anything requiring suppression yet today :) :)
[18:49] <Mike_H> Sephora is a chain of cosmetics stores founded in France in 1970[1] and acquired by Paris-based conglomerate LVMH (Louis Vuitton and Moet Hennessy) in 1997. The Sephora chain includes more than 750 stores in 17 countries.
[18:49] <Qcoder00> Trusilver:  They want to be sure you aren't a one legged lesbian communist mexican immigrant ;)
[18:49] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, you have to go to France for Sephora
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[18:50] <Qcoder00> Mike_H:  Something I've not been able to find in the UK, is a particular form of  skin cover stick
[18:50] <Hdiuf8938> I just found out that if you are can no longer look at your watchlist...because wikipedia knows if you are doing it..and the autoblock won't let you create accounts.
[18:50] <Qcoder00> (ie concealer)
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[18:51] <Hdiuf8938> if you have an old blocked account and use it to see your watchlist, the autoblock becomes in effect.
[18:51] <Hdiuf8938> it's never happened before until recently.
[18:51] <Ironholds> Trusilver: it was WMUK, not the gummint
[18:51] <Ironholds> and I did threaten to sue them :P
[18:51] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: Another problem, I've found is that stores claiming to sell to the transgender market tend to over-charge :(
[18:51] <Hdiuf8938> i like talking to myself.
[18:51] <Qcoder00> I saved myself a lot by finding a 'dancewear' firm in the West End
[18:51] <Hdiuf8938> it's so much fun.
[18:51] <Qcoder00> for some items
[18:52] <Ironholds> the transe-gender market?
[18:52] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, I have a store that you should look at
[18:52] <Ironholds> a market with both boobs and a dick?
[18:52] <Mike_H> what city are you in/near?
[18:52] <Ironholds> how do you even fit genetalia on a market?
[18:52] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: Oxford
[18:52] <Hdiuf8938> what are you all talking about? i can't keep up.
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[18:52] <harej> If I went to University of Cambridge, now would be an awkward time to bring it up.
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[18:52] <harej> Hdiuf8938: something to do with crossdressing makeup and bank account information.
[18:53] <Ironholds> harej: cambridge? wha?
[18:53] <Qcoder00> Ironholds: There are stores that claim to sell specialist items for crossdressers ?
[18:53] <Qcoder00> That's what I meant
[18:53] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, MAC Cosmetics has what you need
[18:53] <Trusilver> Oh hell... I have apparently insulted every St. Louis Cardinals fan. However am I going to sleep tonight?
[18:53] <Mike_H> however the closest locations are in Greater London. There are 8 of them.
[18:53] <harej> Ironholds: don't Oxford and Cambridge have a longstanding rivalry?
[18:53] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: Thanks
[18:54] <Ironholds> harej: well, yes. And Mocksbridge tries to catch up.
[18:54] <Qcoder00> The other thing I have problems finding in the UK, is  basic large 'Bridget Jones' underwear
[18:54] <Hdiuf8938> How come if use a very old blocked account just to look at your watchlist, you get autoblocked? Why is Wikipedia changing its rules?
[18:54] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, MAC and Sephora are talked up a lot here
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[18:54] <Hdiuf8938> Is it not allowed for banned users to look at their watchlist?
[18:54] <Mike_H> so it would be worth it to take the train into London and go to the big MAC store in London, I assume one of those 8 is the main UK center for MAC
[18:55] <Qcoder00> I mean you would have thought finding large size underwear for crossdressers at a reasonable price in the UK would be something you could do
[18:55] <Hdiuf8938> as long as they aren't editing, then they aren't being disruptive.
[18:55] <Ironholds> Hdiuf8938, if you're banned you shouldn't have a working account
[18:55] <Ironholds> we don't care if you log in and look at your watchlist
[18:55] <Hdiuf8938> they never had that rule before.
[18:55] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, is Oxford closer to London or Birmingham?
[18:55] <Hdiuf8938> banned users used to can look at the watchlist and not get autoblocked.
[18:55] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: Closer to Birmingham
[18:55] <Hdiuf8938> why did they change the rules?
[18:56] <Hdiuf8938> they should of informed people that they were changing it.
[18:56] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, there are two MACs in Birmingham, one at Caxtongate and one in the airport.
[18:56] <Qcoder00> In terms of British firms, I've also heard good things about Avon ;)
[18:56] <Trusilver> Hdiuf8938: Just out of curiosity, why is it a big deal?
[18:57] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, here's their info if you want to call them
[18:57] <Mike_H> MAC
[18:57] <Mike_H> Unit 14, Caxtongate
[18:57] <Mike_H> Birmingham, B2 5EP
[18:57] <Mike_H> +44 870 192 5225
[18:57] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: Suprisingly the one thing I did find  easier to find in the UK was corsetry ;)
[18:57] <Qcoder00> *easy
[18:57] <The_Thing> lulz
[18:57] <The_Thing>
[18:57] <The_Thing> Open this on 10 tabs at once
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[18:58] <Mike_H> Qcoder00, MAC will do your Halloween makeup for free :)
[18:58] <Hdiuf8938> There isn't.  So why are wikipedia making it a big deal when banned users can look at their watchlist? They punish them by doing autoblock whenever they look at their watchlist.
[18:58] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: The one thing I am still looking for though is a firm that sells  proper 'skinsuit' costume bases...
[18:58] <Qcoder00> The dancewear firm I used to buy from closed...
[18:59] <Hdiuf8938> does accounts still stale after 3 months? or has the rule changed for that too?
[18:59] <Ironholds> Hdiuf8938: "stale"?
[18:59] <Ironholds> Hdiuf8938, if you're a banned user we're not giving you advice on sockpuppeting. Take a hike.
[18:59] <Qcoder00> Mike_H:  I tend not to go in for doing  Halloween costumes in a big way...
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[19:00] <Hdiuf8938> i asked arbcom and they said it was 3 months.
[19:00] <Qcoder00> .. Although once I did manage to find a period dress to do the waitressing at a party ;)
[19:00] <Mike_H> ToAruShiroiNeko,
[19:00] <Ironholds> Hdiuf8938: then talk to arbcom. We're not providing a critical analysis on how to evade a block.
[19:00] <Hdiuf8938> if someone sock every 3 months, they can get away with it, right?
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[19:01] <Qcoder00> I think I must have trawled through about 20 different workwear and period suplliers on that occasion :)
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[19:01] <Qcoder00> Any ops around?
[19:01] <Ironholds> Hdiuf8938: assuming that nobody at any point logged your IP info personally, which they regularly do
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[19:01] <WilliamH_UK> <---op
[19:01] <Ironholds> now, leave before we make you leave.
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[19:01] <WilliamH_UK> i'm watching :)
[19:01] <WilliamH_UK> this is not sockpuppetry advice
[19:01] <WilliamH_UK> that is a topic well beyond the scope of this channel
[19:02] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK, he's asking how to best evade checkuser. I'm pretty sure it's sockpuppetry advice.
[19:02] <Qcoder00> I am just getting slightly concerned...
[19:02] <WilliamH_UK> so I see
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[19:03] <Fluffernutter> What WilliamH_UK said. also, no, socking every three months is not going to work out for you
�06[19:04] * WilliamH_UK nods
[19:04] <Lunaway> The best way to evade checkuser is by generally following site policies, guidelines, and community norms
�06[19:04] * WilliamH_UK nods again
[19:04] <Lunaway> In other words, by being a useful and helpful editor >.>
[19:04] <Fluffernutter> and not returning to problem areas
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[19:05] <Trusilver> Or better yet,  not have a "problem area" to begin with.
[19:06] <Fluffernutter> I mean really the ultimate way to evade sockpuppetry blocks is to never sockpuppet or misbehave. THAT'LL show those nasty checkusers!
[19:06] <Lunaway> Seriously
[19:07] <Fluffernutter> ok clearly i've heard too many sandwich jokes. I saw and my brain went "what does that have to do with me?"
[19:08] <Qcoder00> Mike_H: Thanks
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[19:14] <Ironholds> attention!
[19:14] <Ironholds> who here is good at FA image alt-text?
[19:15] <Ironholds> I am willing to give equal credit on up to *five* featured articles to the man (or woman, or dog) who can add alt-text to them
[19:15] <Samwb123> hmm... there is a help page detailing this, hold on a sec
[19:16] <Samwb123> see
[19:16] <Peter-C> Laura|VideoGames plays video games!?
[19:16] <Samwb123> Under 'on the left' it details alt-text
[19:17] <Ironholds> Samwb123, I have seven featured articles, 68 good articles, over 700 articles total and am a system operator
[19:17] <Ironholds> I know HOW to do alt-text
[19:17] <Ironholds> I just fricking hate doing it :P
[19:17] <matthewrbowker> Ironholds: Is that full-sized, featured articles?  On all the images?
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[19:18] <Trusilver> Can't we all agree that if you have to fight over the word before "rock", "pop", "punk", "metal" etc... you REALLY need to find something else to do with your time?
[19:18] <Samwb123> Ironholds: Sorry. I mis-understood your question.
[19:18] <Ironholds> mattbuck: indeed
[19:18] <Ironholds> Trusilver: amen
[19:18] <Qcoder00> mathhewbrowker: In my experience Ironholds seems to trying to get publishers of legal textbooks to review thier works on insolvency at times ;)
[19:18] <Qcoder00> *to be
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[19:18] <kylu> actually... since there are descriptions as part of the images anyway, why doesn't it just pull default alt-text from the image page?
[19:19] <matthewrbowker> Ironholds: I'm seriously interested.
[19:19] <Ironholds> kylu: because alt-text is "letting a blind person understand it", not a caption
[19:19] <Ironholds> for example has "A large number of wigged, robed figures in a wood-covered courtroom. A large royal crest decorates the rear wall, with four judges sitting in front of it. Below them, a group of scribes sit writing, along with a large jewelled sceptre and cushion."
[19:20] <Qcoder00> Or a low bandwidth user.... Sometimes when I am doing a lot of image editing on simple taggings, I tend to turn images off
[19:20] <matthewrbowker> Ironholds: Sure, I'll do it!  Where's the list?
[19:21] <kylu> well, yes, but my point was since someone's uploading the picture, they could put a reasonable alt-text there instead, then it'd be shared between any pages that use it, unless overridden.
[19:21] <Ironholds> kylu: sure, if we don't mind mandating a new demand for image uploads
[19:21] <Ironholds> and what do we do with commons images? We have foreign language projects
[19:21] <Ironholds> and what do we do with the over 3 million existing images?
[19:21] <kylu> eh, just delete 'em all. nobody will notice.
[19:22] <Ironholds> matthewrbowker : [[Matthew Hale (jurist)]], [[Court of King's Bench (England)|]], [[Court of Common Pleas (England)]], [[Edward Coke]], [[Exchequer of Pleas]]
[19:22] <Ironholds> it's only legal history publishers I'm driving out of business :p
[19:22] <matthewrbowker> Ironholds: Right, I'm on it.
[19:23] <Ironholds> matthewrbowker: love yoooou
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[19:23] <matthewrbowker> And Wikipedia seems to be driving all sorts of publishers out of business...
[19:23] <Qcoder00> Triva question:  During which historical period was the first form of English Law developed?
[19:24] <Qcoder00> Are there any chat bot developers in the channel?
[19:25] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: for England as a whole?
[19:25] <Ironholds> just after the 11th and 12th century
[19:25] <Qcoder00> Ironholds:  :)
[19:25] <Ironholds> it's also the origin of the idea of "precedent", which has thoroughly intriguing origins
[19:25] <Qcoder00> I've had people seriously think Common Law is Saxon in origin
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[19:26] <Ironholds> Common law comes from an effort to have the puisine justices of the curia regis unify the law
[19:26] <Ironholds> they went out and went to every region and found out the law in that region, took the bits they considered valid, returned to the court and compiled it all.
[19:27] <Ironholds> This is also where the idea of "precedent" and "judge-made law" comes from. Since only the judges had a complete compiled version of the law, what they said was what the law was.
[19:27] <Ironholds> the law being "in the breast of the judges"
�06[19:29] * Qcoder00 makes a side observation , Is the phrase in the 'canon' related to a compliation of canon law by any chance?
[19:29] <Ironholds> no - canon just means "genuine"
�06[19:29] * Qcoder00 did not do Latin :(
[19:30] <Ironholds> so the christian canon is those religious works accepted in christianity, the western canon is those influential and genuine works
[19:30] <Ironholds> canon law is just "the law pertaining to the christian canon"
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[19:31] <jorm> oink.
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[19:34] <Ironholds> hey jorm
[19:34] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: as long as it's English law I'd kick buttock. I wrote most of them.
[19:34] <jorm> i'm bored.  designing a skin.
[19:35] <Qcoder00> Ironholds: Had you considered applying for Mastermind?
[19:35] <Qcoder00>  :)
[19:36] <matthewrbowker> Ironholds: British spelling, right?
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[19:39] <Ironholds> mattbuck: indeed
[19:39] <Ironholds> jorm: trial run for the vector replacement?
[19:40] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: oh god no.
[19:40] <matthewrbowker> Ironholds: Excellent, just checking.  :)
[19:40] <Ironholds> I hate public speaking of any form. I suck at it.
[19:40] <jorm> hah.  no.
[19:43] <Peter-C> <3
[19:43] <jorm> the user blocked for sexist comment thread.
[19:43] <jorm> err, wrong channel.
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[19:48] <Fluffernutter> <_<
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[19:52] <matthewrbowker> Ironholds: {{done}} for Matthew Hale.  Relevant diff:
[19:52] <matthewrbowker> (I'll take the {{inuse}} down in a sec)
[19:53] <Ironholds> matthewrbowker: awesome! Thanks :)
[19:53] <matthewrbowker> Ironholds: NP :)
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[20:06] <The_Thing>
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[20:06] <The_Thing> I got this for a captcha:
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[20:07] <The_Thing> Like, how the fuck is someone expected to type a square?
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�08[20:09] <derp> The_Thing, square people.
[20:09] <matthewrbowker> The_Thing: Use Unicode, then find a character not installed on the machine.
[20:09] <jorm> you're missing a font.
[20:09] <Qcoder00> Night
[20:09] <The_Thing> I mean, how the hell do they expect most normal people to type a square?
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[20:10] <The_Thing> Most normal people couldn't comprehend what an alt-code is, or what Unicode is.
[20:10] <Dragonfly6-7> [[mojibake]], I believe you mean
[20:10] <Dragonfly6-7> The_Thing - I've seen pictures of CAPTCHA that include drawings of elephants
[20:11] <matthewrbowker> The_Thing: OK, point taken :P
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[20:12] <The_Thing> Dragonfly6-7: O_o
[20:12] <The_Thing> o_O
[20:12] <The_Thing> O_oo_O_O_O_o_O-o-O_o_O-O-O-O-O-O-_O_o-O_oO-O-oo-O_O__o_O
[20:13] <jorm> i got sketched by the chairman of the board and you didn't:
[20:14] <DarkoNeko> zzzz =_= nighty
�08[20:14] <derp> nite DarkoNeko
�08[20:14] <derp> <3
[20:14] <Peter-C> DarkoNeko <3
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[20:15] <Ironholds> jorm: I have free commie healthcare and you don't.
[20:15] <jorm> I have Freedom and you don't.
[20:16] <Ironholds> jorm: hey, we have freedom!
[20:16] <Ironholds> your freedoms are more extensive, admittedly
[20:16] <jorm> if you define "freedom" as "being subservient to TWO masters - your goverment and your God-Queen."
[20:17] <Ironholds> you are free to die in an ambulance. you are free to be abused for your sexuality. you are free to do what we tell you.
[20:17] <jorm> Poor Charles.  He'll never be King.  He'll die before the Vampire leaves the throne.
[20:17] <Ironholds> jorm: our Queen *is* our government.
[20:17] <jorm> he's like, what?  70 now?  and she's pushing 130.
[20:17] <Ironholds> claiming government and queen are distinct is like identifying the constitution and the president as seperate sources of authority
[20:17] <Ironholds> heh.
�06[20:17] * WilliamH_UK just recently used "commie" healthcare, and I can testify it was excellent
[20:18] <Sceptre> qq cry more anons
[20:18] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK: and you get a free bag of grapes!
[20:18] <Ironholds> also a framed portrait of Stalin
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[20:19] <Mike_H> [19:17] <jorm> he's like, what?  70 now?  andshe's pushing 130.
[20:19] <Mike_H> That's no way to talk about Liza and her gay ex-husband
�06[20:19] * Fluffernutter snorts
[20:19] <WilliamH_UK> Ironholds I didn't get either of those things
[20:20] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK: really? you got gypped
[20:20] <WilliamH_UK> apparently so
[20:20] <Ironholds> jorm: technically he's ineligible to be monarch anyway
[20:20] <jorm> how is that?
[20:20] <jorm> he's her son, right?
[20:21] <jorm> and the power is in her line.
[20:21] <Ironholds> the law states that those in line to the throne must gain royal permission before marrying
[20:21] <Ironholds> his marriage was not validated in the legally required way
[20:21] <jorm> else her husband would be "king" and not "prince"
[20:21] <jorm> oh-ho.
[20:21] <jorm> that's interesting.
[20:21] <jorm> what about william, then?
[20:21] <Ironholds> simply *meeting* the woman does not make a marriage authorised by the monarch
[20:21] <Ironholds> oh, he's sorted
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[20:21] <Ironholds> but for obvious reasons nobody has mentioned the legal issues to charles
[20:21] <jorm> so, then, legally, the crown passes to william, over charles?
[20:21] <Mike_H> they are still trying to push the "Kate is the next Di" thing here
[20:22] <Mike_H> even down to "we think Kate has an eating disorder, remember when Di had one?"
[20:22] <Ironholds> the Attorney General wrote a big paper going "actually, guys, he's just abdicated himself" and was then shouted at and quietly withdrew it
[20:22] <Ironholds> jorm: yup! Of course, in practise, the golden triangle will decide differently
[20:22] <Fluffernutter> Mike_H, the blog i read have about given up on that. They're all "let's face it, Kate does whatever William says, and her clothes are boring"
[20:22] <Fluffernutter> *blogs
[20:22] <jorm> things i don't care about, volume 12332325245: "The Jersey Shore".  "Kate and William".  "Rumors of a new Ghostbusters movie".
[20:22] <Mike_H> Fluffernutter, US Weekly gets on a horse and rides it until it's twice-dead. That and I think Teen Mom is on hiatus, so...
[20:23] <Ironholds> jorm: I was lucky enough to miss the wedding - I was in the US
[20:23] <Lunaway> Sceptre: How does it feel to be the Worst Person on the Internet?
[20:23] <Ironholds> and I fucking STILL HAD TO WATCH COVERAGE. ARGH.
[20:23] <Fluffernutter> nah, two of the past teen moms are pregnant again
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[20:23] <Sceptre> Lunaway: feels good mang
[20:23] <Mike_H> Ironholds, BBC America started the coverage the earliest
[20:23] <jorm> the only thing i know about the wedding was how someone bombed the "color" iphone app during it.
[20:23] <Mike_H> at like
[20:23] <Lunaway> Sceptre: <3
[20:23] <Fluffernutter> so they'll pick up where kate left off
[20:23] <Mike_H> 2 a.m.
[20:23] <jorm> which i thought was glorious.
�08[20:23] * derp licks Sceptre
[20:23] <Sceptre> Lunaway: I'm going to make myself more unpopular
[20:23] <Sceptre> I'm going to resurrect the Articles for Discussion proposal :p
[20:23] <Ironholds> Sceptre: how? unblock jimbo?
[20:24] <jorm> i totally dare someone to block jimbo.
[20:24] <Lunaway> It's been done
[20:24] <jorm> it might be worth losing admin bits over.
[20:24] <Mike_H> Ironholds, I personally loved how some US networks just hired someone English to do commentary because who knows the House of Windsor better than some English actress?
[20:24] <Mike_H> So CBS' special correspondent was...Jane Seymour.
[20:24] <Mike_H> and not the dead wife of Henry VIII Jane Seymour.
[20:24] <Mike_H> or did Jane live.
[20:24] <Mike_H> I forget.
[20:24] <Mike_H> She was the last one, wasn't she, so she livfed.
[20:24] <Mike_H> *lived.
[20:24] <Ironholds> indeed
[20:25] <Ironholds> divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived
[20:25] <Fluffernutter> jorm is such a bad influence
[20:25] <Mike_H> Well, needless to say that this Jane Seymour is the former Bond Girl turned Medicine Woman who competed on Dancing with the Stars. She has a pretty accent and had a CBS show once, so that was probably what got it.
[20:25] <jorm> the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that i am not him.
[20:26] <Fluffernutter> and like're gone
[20:26] <Ironholds> jorm: who aren't you?
[20:26] <Lunaway> Oh, wow. This is classic Jimbo:
[20:26] <Mike_H> I would have lol'd if the royal correspondent on any network was Joan Collins, but that never materialized :(
[20:26] <Mike_H> "I know royalty, dahling, I married into money nineteen times on Dinnahsty"
[20:27] <jorm> he did that after wikimania.
[20:27] <jorm> part of his "simplify everything" initiative.
[20:28] <Ironholds> indeed
[20:28] <Ironholds> I didn't actually see his wikimania presentation, alas
[20:28] <Ironholds> I was sat outside going "Sue gave me a barnstar for my first talk? the fuuuu?"
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[20:29] <Mike_H> Ironholds, it is cheaper than money.
[20:29] <jorm> none of my presentations are available yet.
[20:29] <jorm> this is a point of considerable irritation for me.
[20:29] <Ironholds> jorm: aw :(
[20:29] <jorm> not unlike a hemmerhoid.
[20:29] <Ironholds> jorm: did you see my first one? I forget
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[20:30] <jorm> or ironholds.
[20:30] <jorm> i don't remember. i  was drunk most of the time.
[20:30] <Ironholds> jorm: I'm a point of considerable irritation to you? you sound like pb ;p
[20:30] <Fluffernutter> ..
[20:30] <Ironholds> jorm: anyone who declares me to be the coolest community member at wikimania must have been pretty shitfaced, yes.
[20:30] <Ironholds> or at least, the coolest-editor-without-a-lapel-pin
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[20:31] <jorm> owait. i did that, didn't i.
[20:31] <Ironholds> you did. That's how we know you were drunk :P
�06[20:31] * jorm files that under "shit that will come back to haunt me."
[20:31] <Ironholds> still, it's a nice lapel pin
[20:31] <jorm> no, dude, you deserved it.
[20:31] <jorm> i thought long and hard about who to give that to.
[20:31] <Trusilver> Jorm, this is Wikipedia, you don't need to have a "shit that will come back to haunt me" file. There are PLENTY of people keeping one for you!
[20:31] <Ironholds> and you picked ME? Fuck, we need to start inviting more people to these things.
[20:31] <Mike_H> who wears lapels anymore
[20:32] <Mike_H> I want to go back in time to 1974 where everyone's lapels went to the end of their shoulders
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[20:32] <Ironholds> Mike_H: well, jorm ;p
[20:32] <Fluffernutter> Trusilver, lol
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[20:32] <Ironholds> Trusilver: and photographic evidence!
[20:32] <Ironholds> we have photos of me throttling a staffer
[20:32] <Ironholds> this is probably not a good thing
[20:32] <Ironholds> but he kept hugging me and wouldn't let me go, so, his fault.
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[20:38] <jorm> ugh.  someone just reminded me that I've seen the band Tesla, like, four times.
[20:38] <jorm> not intentionally, mind you.
[20:38] <jorm> just that they opened for EVERYONE in the late 80s.
[20:40] <Ironholds> jorm: I had to see Trivium once
[20:40] <Ironholds> *shudders*
[20:40] <Ironholds> mind you, I've encountered some of my favorite bands as opening acts. Thrice, Oceansize, Cold War Kids
[20:41] <Ironholds> Biffy, too!
[20:41] <jorm> i saw anvil last year. that was something that took me back.
[20:41] <jorm> they were. . . terrible.
�06[20:41] * Ironholds snorts
[20:41] <jorm> like someone teleported them from 1986 to 2010.
[20:41] <jorm> i saw some good bands over the past 12 months, otherwise.
[20:42] <jorm> godspeed, for instance.
[20:42] <jorm> melvins.
[20:42] <Ironholds> you got to see the melvins? fuck
[20:42] <Ironholds> all we get over here is Lady Gaga and the fucking Kooks
[20:43] <Ironholds> mind you, I don't go to gigs so much these days. Used to average about one every two weeks, but my feet get tired these days
[20:43] <Ironholds> best band I ever saw was probably Biffy or Modest Mouse
[20:43] <Ironholds> or Rilo Kiley, but I cannae listen to them
[20:43] <Trusilver> Jorm: If it makes you feel better, I have Tesla's greatest hits album.
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[20:46] <jorm> the melvins play here allatime.
[20:46] <Mike_H> so hipster shit
[20:46] <jorm> listen.
[20:46] <jorm> the best concert i ever got to see?
[20:46] <jorm> DioSabbath.
[20:46] <jorm> just before he died, even.
[20:47] <jorm> but i'm happy to have seen godspeed you black emperor, if only 'cause they're so rare.
[20:47] <jorm> i'd wanted to see them since, oh, 2000.
[20:47] <Dragonfly6-7>
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[20:54] <Peter-C> OMG YES!
[20:54] <Peter-C> I got a 100% on my marketing test!
�06[20:54] * Peter-C struts around
[20:54] <Trusilver> congrats
[20:54] <matthewrbowker> good job, Peter-C!
�06[20:54] * Peter-C buys rounds for everyone
[20:54] <WilliamH_UK> congrats
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[21:01] <matthewrbowker> Ironholds: There were five, right?  I've only got four here: "	matthewrbowker : [[Matthew Hale (jurist)]], [[]], [[Court of Common Pleas (England)]], [[Edward Coke]], [[Exchequer of Pleas]]"
[21:01] <Ironholds> eh, four is fine :)
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[21:02] <matthewrbowker> OK, sounds good.  I'm just finishing up the second right now, and I should be done with it in less than 5 minutes.
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[21:12] <matthewrbowker> Ironholds: Here's the second one:
[21:12] <Ironholds> much obliged
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[21:16] <Addihockey10> :-D
[21:17] <Addihockey10> Position 3129 for iPhone 4S
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[21:17] <Peter-C> Good news, everyone is now going to bring urine samples to the next Emergency Services meeting
[21:18] <matthewrbowker> ?!
[21:18] <Peter-C> I can't see how this will fail
[21:18] <Peter-C> I told all the new people to pee in a cup and hand it to the cheif at the next meeting! :D
[21:18] <matthewrbowker> Does the chief know about this?
[21:18] <Peter-C> (drug test, obviously)
[21:18] <Peter-C> Nope!
[21:18] <matthewrbowker> ...
[21:19] <matthewrbowker> You should probably tell him.
[21:19] <Peter-C> It wouldn't be much of a prank, would it? :P
[21:19] <matthewrbowker> No, not really...
[21:19] <Peter-C> Now you understand the prediciment I am in!
[21:21] <Peter-C> Demiurge1000 - what do you think?
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[21:22] <Sceptre> Ironholds: one of my current favourite bands were the opening act for Belle and Sebastian
[21:22] <Sceptre> (Admiral Fallow)
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[21:24] <Sceptre> that Stevie Jackson and Stuart Murdoch are in their 40s freaks me out
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[21:34] <Peter-C> Question
[21:34] <IShadowed> no.
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[21:34] <Peter-C> Does a book costing thousands trump a free website?
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[21:38] <LauraHale> Maybe.
[21:40] <Peter-C> LauraHale - have you talked to your friend today :D
[21:40] <LauraHale> Peter-C: Ping bidgee in #wikimedia-au
[21:41] <Peter-C> How can I ping what is not there
[21:42] <LauraHale> Oh
[21:42] <LauraHale> Well, when he gets back from paying his bills, ping him.
[21:44] <Peter-C> O_O
[21:44] <Peter-C> You want me to ask for money
[21:44] <Peter-C> after he pays his bills
[21:44] <Peter-C> What horrible timing
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[21:49] <LauraHale> :)
�06[21:49] * LauraHale didn't chose it
[21:53] <Peter-C> >.>
[21:56] <kylu> "She chose...wisely."
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[21:58] <Laura|oPortos> '
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[22:07] <The_Thing> ...I'm like totally addicted to that nyancat song now\
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[22:08] <The_Thing> nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan.
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[22:08] <WilliamH_UK> i like the part where the cat says nyan
[22:09] <The_Thing> lulz
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[22:25] <jorm> hrm. according to the wikipeeds, you're wrong about charles' succession, Ironholds.
[22:26] <jorm> he is still heir apparent.
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[22:31] <Ironholds> jorm: the wikipeeds are wrong
[22:31] <Ironholds> as said, the report was withdrawn
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[22:33] <jorm> {{sofixit}}
[22:33] <Fumika> Neat, someone with my name found themselves to be an amazing hitter.
[22:35] <Ironholds> jorm: my info is OR and not from a reliable source!
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[22:55] <matthewrbowker> Ironnholds: Here's #3: .  Sorry about the delay...
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[22:56] <Ironholds> matthewrbowker: no pressure!
[22:56] <Ironholds> I'm only allowed to nominate one FAC at a time, so srsly, don't worry yourself over the rest ;p
[22:57] <matthewrbowker> Heh, good point.  That's all right, I'd rather get it done now.  I might forget it later.
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[22:58] <Ironholds> jorm, can I make a request for a features change?
[22:58] <Emw> are there any tools to do high-level analysis of a given wikipedia article, e.g. the number of words is has, its readability index, etc.
[22:58] <Ironholds> Emw: there are, hangon
[22:58] <jorm> uh, what change?
[22:58] <Emw> i recall seeing one, but i forget where it is
[22:59] <Demiurge1000> why is my watchlist splattered with "please review these blocks" notifications?  (sorry if this happened hours ago...)
[22:59] <Ironholds> Emw: wait, it got removed
[22:59] <matthewrbowker> Ironholds: And [[Exchequer of Pleas]] already has alt attributes...
[22:59] <Ironholds> basically because they implemented the tools incorrectly
[22:59] <Ironholds> matthewrbowker: indeed! TParis got there first
[22:59] <Ironholds> jorm: some way of dismissing watchlist entries?
[23:00] <jorm> you mean like "mark all pages as viewed?" or "delete from watchlist?"
[23:00] <matthewrbowker> Ironholds: Awesome!
[23:00] <Ironholds> jorm: basically
[23:00] <Ironholds> so, when I see "(diff | hist) . . Edward Coke?; 03:54 . . (-10) . . Matthewrbowker (talk | contribs | block)? (Removing Inuse: work is done) [rollback]"
[23:00] <jorm> WP:FEATUREEXISTS
[23:00] <Ironholds> I should have a way of going "cool, that edit's fine, don't want to see that diff on my watchlist, notify me when someone makes another change to that page"
[23:00] <Ironholds>
[23:00] <jorm> actually, i want to redo all of watchlists.
[23:01] <jorm> "visit the page".
[23:01] <jorm> "view diff"
[23:01] <jorm> etc.
[23:01] <Ironholds> indeed. say this feature exists?
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[23:01] <jorm> yes.  control click the "diff" link.
[23:02] <jorm> it sucks.  i'm not saying that a real "feature" for it exists. i'm just giving you the "yeah, here's the workaround for our shitty UX" answer.
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[23:02] <Ironholds> ...AWESOME
[23:02] <Ironholds> yes, it sucks, but it sucks marginally less than not being able to do anything
[23:02] <Ironholds> eh?
[23:03] <Ironholds> that just opens the diff in a new window
[23:03] <Ironholds> I'm talking about a way to make the watchlist entry for that diff magically vanish
[23:03] <Ironholds> similar to "mark email as read and don't show me it any more" ;p
[23:04] <Emw> sounds like a user JS script in conception
[23:04] <Ironholds> Emw: nooo
[23:04] <Ironholds> no js scripts
[23:04] <Ironholds> js scripts are satan
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[23:04] <Emw> the world needs more software developers
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[23:05] <matthewrbowker> Indeed it does.
�06[23:05] * Cncplayer is back
[23:05] <Cncplayer> :D
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[23:06] <Ironholds> Emw: sure, but not js scripts
[23:06] <Ironholds> I'd really love an effort to roll the more useful js functions into MW or its extensions
[23:06] <Ironholds> because when 300 users are using 300 different customised ways to edit it gets headachey to do anything.
�06[23:12] * Mike_H watches the episode of The Nanny where C.C.'s dog eats Lamb Chop.
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[23:13] <matthewrbowker> Ks0stm|Exam: You have new messages.
[23:14] <Ks0stm|Exam> matthewrbowker: Awesome, thanks.
�03[23:14] * Ks0stm|Exam is now known as Ks0stm
[23:14] <The_Thing> So...
[23:14] <matthewrbowker> Ks0stm|Exam: NP at all :)  I hope I can be of some help.
[23:15] <The_Thing> Could somebody explain to me how Google can possibly think that the average computer user can type something like this?:
[23:15] <matthewrbowker> Right, I've got to go.  I should be back on later.
[23:15] <Trusilver> hah, nice.
�06[23:15] * Cncplayer thinks
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[23:16] <Cncplayer> wow, thats easy
[23:16] <Cncplayer> towersm
[23:16] <Cncplayer> took me 3 seconds to find it out
[23:16] <The_Thing> There's a square in there :P
[23:16] <Cncplayer> thats just xtra
[23:16] <The_Thing> How can you be sure? :P
[23:16] <Cncplayer> to throw off a bot
[23:17] <Cncplayer> oh im sure
[23:17] <Cncplayer> ive solved thousands of captcha
[23:17] <Cncplayer> THOUSANDS
[23:17] <WilliamH_UK> sleep time
[23:17] <WilliamH_UK> cheerio
�06[23:18] * Cncplayer really wants to become an admin, but knows he can't :'(
[23:18] <Trusilver> The other day I was on a site that asked for me to enter a captcha with Korean characters. That was fun.
[23:19] <WilliamH_UK> cncplayer why not
[23:19] <The_Thing> yeah why not? :P
[23:19] <Cncplayer> i don't have enough mainspace contribs
[23:19] <The_Thing> lol
[23:19] <The_Thing> Half of all of my edits were mainspace contribs :P
[23:19] <Cncplayer> i'm better than Cluebot though :)
[23:19] <Trusilver> okay... so get mainspace contribs
[23:19] <Cncplayer> i'm too lazy too
[23:20] <The_Thing> haha
[23:20] <Cncplayer> that's my problem
[23:20] <Cncplayer> i'm too lazy
[23:20] <Trusilver> I passed RfA 89/2/5 and I only had one GA.
�06[23:20] * Cncplayer IS SHOCKED
[23:20] <Cncplayer> :O
[23:20] <The_Thing> I almost passed RfA with a start-class :P
[23:20] <WilliamH_UK> wait a while yet cncplayer
[23:20] <Trusilver> Understand that was four years ago and people have become somewhat more... um... what's a polite word?
[23:21] <Cncplayer> narrowed
[23:21] <Trusilver> narrowed, yes.
[23:21] <The_Thing> If it wasn't for some dickish comment, I would have passed my last RfA, and I wouldn't be spending my time playing Starcraft II for the entirety of my free time
�06[23:21] * Cncplayer says "Die waffen legt an!!" and opens Huggle :)
[23:22] <The_Thing> um
[23:22] <The_Thing> wat?
[23:22] <The_Thing> Something about waffles?
[23:22] <The_Thing> :P
[23:22] <WilliamH_UK> cncplayer du bist deutsch?
[23:22] <The_Thing> wat?
[23:22] <Cncplayer> German
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[23:23] <The_Thing> I know it's German... but I don't speak German :P
[23:23] <Cncplayer> loose translation: "Aim your weapons!!"
[23:23] <Cncplayer> :P
[23:23] <Cncplayer> :D
[23:23] <Trusilver> Having been there and back, I try to talk people out of being an admin whenever possible.... especially if they are major content contributors.
[23:23] <The_Thing> heh
[23:23] <The_Thing> Yeah, I was never a major content contributor
[23:23] <WilliamH_UK> yeah you're right
[23:23] <Cncplayer> Trusilver: its the vandal fighters that deserve the mop
[23:24] <WilliamH_UK> die Waffen niederlegen! = put down your weapons
[23:24] <The_Thing> To be perfectly honest, I never saw how content contributors could be able to use tools whose sole purpose function was the destruction of content
�06[23:24] * Cncplayer hates that phrase
[23:24] <Trusilver> I wouldn't use the word 'deserve'. Adminship isn't a promotion, it is, at the most, extra responsibility.
[23:25] <WilliamH_UK> vandalism...yes that must be swiped
[23:25] <The_Thing> I was a pure vandal-fighter for three years straight...
[23:25] <Cncplayer> Trusilver: what would a content contributor need the admin tools for?
[23:25] <The_Thing> I have battle scars to prove it
[23:25] <Emw> so i'm reviewing an article that a new editor hopes to get to at least GA:  my main concern is that it currently seems very oversized.  am i off-base here?
[23:25] <The_Thing>
[23:25] <WilliamH_UK> Cncplayer you have a lot to learn
[23:26] <Cncplayer> well ive been here since March 2011
[23:26] <WilliamH_UK> there are people who wish to cause to harm to wikipedia with edits much much more sophisticated than vandalism
[23:26] <WilliamH_UK> with unreliable sources, fringe theories, that sort of thing
[23:26] <The_Thing> I've been here since August of 2007
�06[23:26] * Cncplayer likes to hone in on OR
[23:26] <The_Thing> Under the apt name of "Vandalism destroyer" :p
[23:26] <Emw> anyone?
[23:26] <WilliamH_UK> May 2006
[23:27] <Trusilver> Cncplayer: The worst areas of the encyclopedia are the ones the content-creating admins usually spend the most time with. The ones WilliamH said.
[23:27] <Trusilver> The quagmires of death like AE and such too.
[23:27] <WilliamH_UK> sorry emw, i'm all edited out
[23:27] <The_Thing> Does that imply that the admins make them the worst areas of the 'pedia?
[23:28] <The_Thing> or that the admins are there because it's the worst area?
�06[23:28] * Cncplayer is preparing a long document with the reasons that vandal fights need the admin tools
[23:28] <Trusilver> erm... wow.... I"m not going there :)
[23:28] <The_Thing> hah
[23:28] <WilliamH_UK> thing - it's the latter
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[23:28] <The_Thing> Cncplayer, I think over nine thousand essays already cover that :P
�06[23:28] * Cncplayer needs to run off for 3-5 minutes...
[23:29] <WilliamH_UK> i did adminy stuff but i was also RFA'd hugely on the basis that i deal with tough stuff that no one wants to
[23:29] <The_Thing> And over nine thousand content-sticklers will nuke those arguments to death with arguments like "BUT... BUT... BUT... CONTENT!"
[23:30] <Trusilver> The good thing about spending most of your admin time in WP:AIV, WP:RFU, WP:RPP etc... is that there are rarely shades of grey, everything is almost always black and white.
[23:30] <The_Thing> or "but... but... but... mediation!" or "but... but... but... AFD!"
[23:31] <The_Thing> What good is content without someone there to keep people from defacing it in the first place?
[23:32] <WilliamH_UK> that's true but it goes back to my original point....not all harmful edits can be fixed at AIV
[23:32] <WilliamH_UK> etc
[23:32] <The_Thing> No, they can't...
[23:33] <Trusilver> There's a rift between people who say that people who are primarily content-creators don't need the tools... or people who don't create content shouldn't have them.... both should.
[23:33] <The_Thing> Harmful edits aren't reported to AIV silly... harmful edit/or/s are. :P
�06[23:34] * Cncplayer has won 2 awards: the most divaish Wikipedian Award (March-July-2011) and the most hated Wikipedia Award (March 2011-)
[23:34] <The_Thing> And, with things like 4chan raids, you can't waste your time with reporting to AIV
�15[23:34] * AlexZion (~quassel@ Quit (Remote host closed the connection�)
[23:34] <Cncplayer> i was meatspun by Wikipedia Review in July
[23:34] <The_Thing> You gotta protect that page the moment they sucessfully target it, and block anyone who's managed to vandalize it on sight.
[23:34] <Demiurge1000> Cncplayer: And the person most trying to draw attention to themselves?
[23:35] <Trusilver> My critera for adminship are lax. "have you been here a while?" "have you had experience in some admin-related area?" "have you refrained from making an asshat of yourself recently?" If you can answer all three with a yes, I will probably support you.
[23:35] <The_Thing> Otherwise they will never stop
�15[23:35] * Cncplayer ( Quit (Quit: OH NOES! CONNECTION PROBLEM! (trollface)�)
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[23:36] <The_Thing> No warnings will stop /b/tards, no threats will stop /b/tards, in fact they'll just get riled up further, moving to different threads to avoid detection by "Wikipedia spies"
[23:36] <Demiurge1000> The_Thing: So, gosh, you could encourage them by rambling endlessly about them here.
[23:36] <The_Thing> lol
[23:37] <The_Thing> They're all fapping to nyancat right now :P
�08[23:37] * derp throws a rabid dog to The_Thing
�06[23:38] * The_Thing vaporizes Demiurge1000
�11[23:38] * Loaded script 'C:\Users\Ordinateur De Maison\AppData\Roaming\mIRC\reply.mrc'
�06[23:38] * The_Thing vaporizes derp*
�08[23:38] * derp vaporizes The_Thing*
�06[23:38] * The_Thing vaporizes derp
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�08[23:38] <derp> beam me up, Scotty.
�03[23:38] * Laura|oPortos is now known as LauraHale
[23:38] <The_Thing> there's no intelligent life down here
�08[23:38] <derp> down in mine, there is ;)
�06[23:39] * Cncplayer throws derp and The_Thing out onto to the street to fight it out
�08[23:39] * derp throws Cncplayer and The_Thing out onto to the street to fight it out
[23:39] <Cncplayer> :O
[23:39] <Cncplayer> lol
[23:39] <Cncplayer> thats actually funny
[23:39] <Cncplayer> derp
[23:39] <Trusilver> Did anyone come to #wikipedia-en thinking that the level of conversation would be a little more... oh, I don't know.... collegial?
�03[23:40] * Sven_Manguard (~~Perhaps@wikipedia/Sven-Manguard) has joined #wikipedia-en
[23:40] <Sven_Manguard> Hellow all.
�15[23:40] * Ty (~Ty@wikia/ZamorakO-o) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer�)
[23:40] <Demiurge1000> yes, hello
[23:40] <Trusilver> evening sven
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[23:40] <Sven_Manguard> It's spelled Hellow now.
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�08[23:40] <derp> Sven_Manguard <3
[23:40] <Sven_Manguard> lol
�06[23:40] * Cncplayer has connection problems
�06[23:40] * The_Thing watches as derp reacts in delight at the sight of the action repeating script being permanently deleted.
�08[23:40] * derp watches as The_Thing reacts in delight at the sight of the action repeating script being permanently deleted.
�06[23:40] * Cncplayer flips off peer
�11[23:40] * Unloaded script 'reply.mrc'
[23:41] <Sven_Manguard> Ironholds: you available for a quick favor? I'd owe you greatly.
�08[23:41] * derp puts The_Thing in a strip club.
[23:41] SpamTunes stopped.
�03[23:41] * Pesky (~Pesky@wikipedia/ThatPeskyCommoner) has joined #wikipedia-en
�06[23:41] * The_Thing derp derp derp derp derp derp derp derp derp derp
�06[23:41] * Sven_Manguard is reminded why he so rarely comes here lately (as he stares at the convo above)
[23:41] <Cncplayer> Sven_Manguard: it better not involve banning me
�06[23:42] * The_Thing derp derp derp derp derp derp derp derp derp derp
[23:42] <The_Thing> Oh sure, now you turn it off
�08[23:42] <derp> :D
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[23:42] <Corey> The_Thing: Urm... no.
[23:42] <Cncplayer> because i'm gonna jaja spam if it does
[23:42] <Trusilver> Sven_Manguard: It only recently descended to this new low.
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[23:42] <Pesky> That's just because I've been elsewhere
[23:42] <Sven_Manguard> Nah. I wanted two people to look something over before I did anything with it. Pesky was one (expert in making language more readable), Ironholds was the other (really good writer)
�06[23:42] * Cncplayer wants to Huggle someone
�06[23:43] * The_Thing wants to Kissle someone
�08[23:43] <derp> Corey, i told you before, it's highly rude to eavesdrop on converstations, espically if you're a freenode staffer.
�06[23:43] * Sven_Manguard wants to Throttle someone
[23:43] <The_Thing> lawl
[23:43] <Pesky> hehe
[23:43] <The_Thing> converstations? xD
[23:43] <Corey> It's also fairly annoying to see the nickspam warnings. :-)
�06[23:43] * Ty throttles the dallorian 
�06[23:44] * The_Thing wants to Twinkle on someone.
�06[23:44] * The_Thing picks derp.
�08[23:44] * derp picks The_Thing.
[23:44] <The_Thing> ....
�08[23:44] <derp> /mirror and /demirror
[23:44] <The_Thing> How handy... >.>
�08[23:45] <derp> i also have this
[23:45] <Cncplayer> derp: commands?
�08[23:45] <derp> yes
�08[23:45] <derp> :)
�08[23:45] <derp> The_Thing, I have put you on a permanent ignore, public and private. I have found you disturbing, rude and generally not worth talking to. According to the channels you hang on, it strengtens the effect of wanting to put you on ignore because of my lack of interest in you as a person.
�08[23:45] <derp> This message is not meant to be rude to you, just to inform you that i won't see anything of what you type from now on.
[23:45] <The_Thing> lawl
[23:45] <Cncplayer> lawl
[23:45] <Sven_Manguard> Dragonfly6-7: Can I give your name to someone who's trying to get me to deal with [[:Category:Files_with_short_filenames]], or is that no longer an interest of yours?
�08[23:45] -> *Cncplayer* btw join ##The_Thing :P
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�08[23:47] Clones detected from�8 joke-away joke-awol
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�06[23:49] * The_Thing throws nyancats at derp
�08[23:49] * derp throws nyancats at The_Thing
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�06[23:50] * Sven_Manguard catches a nyancat, tosses it at Ironholds
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[23:51] <Sven_Manguard> dammit, fine, I'll wait...
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�06[23:59] * AlexandriaB eyes The_Thing and derp 
Session Close: Fri Oct 14 00:00:00 2011