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Trying to re-tell the history of this part of the world (Dalmatia) is fraught was problems. The Yugoslav Communist party was the main driving force in all social matters within the former Yugoslavia. It created historic falsehoods to promote its own political authoritarian agenda. | Trying to re-tell the history of this part of the world (Dalmatia) is fraught was problems. The Yugoslav Communist party was the main driving force in all social matters within the former Yugoslavia. It created historic falsehoods to promote its own political authoritarian agenda. | ||
| − | The dialect evolved in the first half of the 19 century. | + | The dialect evolved in the first half of the 19 century. Vela Luka's early begins (late 18 century) started with the population of the neighbouring Blatta (modern Blato) setting up a town in the large bay of Vallegrande. In Romance Dalmatian bluta means ''wafer'' (or ''host''). Etymology is from the Latin word ''oblāta''. In Croatian blato means ''mud''. |
It is believed that there were two hamlets in the bay, Vallegrande and Bobovishca. | It is believed that there were two hamlets in the bay, Vallegrande and Bobovishca. | ||
| − | We can definitely confirm that from the 9th century onwards that there were '''two ethnic''' communities living on the island in the middle ages, one being of Roman Empire descendant and the other of Croatian-Slavic descendant. | + | We can definitely confirm that from the 9th century onwards that there were '''two ethnic''' communities living on the island in the middle ages, one being of Roman Empire descendant and the other of Croatian-Slavic descendant. Two languages Italian and Slavic (which at times overlapped) became the norm on the islan. |
| − | + | With the Serbian forces being annihilated in the Battle of Kosovo by the Ottoman Empire in 1389 a migration of peoples stated to migrant west ward. Venetian Dalmatia started to acquire new peoples in its region (i.e., Croatians, Serbs & Albanians). This combined with the Black Plague depleting the island population the Venetian authorities brought new families to the island of Korcula. Amongst these where Shokavian Slavic speakers. With these added migrations the Slavic speakers became a majority. | |
| + | If the translation of the ''Defence of Korcula''
from Ottoman attack in 1571 (written by Antun-Antonio Rozanovic) is ''untainted'' we can see that the majority of the defenders of the island were by 1571 of Slavic decent. If we use this as a reference then from 1570s onwards this confirms that the majority of Korcula's population was of Slavic decent. | ||
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Trying to re-tell the history of this part of the world (Dalmatia) is fraught was problems. The Yugoslav Communist party was the main driving force in all social matters within the former Yugoslavia. It created historic falsehoods to promote its own political authoritarian agenda.
The dialect evolved in the first half of the 19 century. Vela Luka's early begins (late 18 century) started with the population of the neighbouring Blatta (modern Blato) setting up a town in the large bay of Vallegrande. In Romance Dalmatian bluta means wafer (or host). Etymology is from the Latin word oblāta. In Croatian blato means mud.
It is believed that there were two hamlets in the bay, Vallegrande and Bobovishca.
We can definitely confirm that from the 9th century onwards that there were two ethnic communities living on the island in the middle ages, one being of Roman Empire descendant and the other of Croatian-Slavic descendant. Two languages Italian and Slavic (which at times overlapped) became the norm on the islan.
With the Serbian forces being annihilated in the Battle of Kosovo by the Ottoman Empire in 1389 a migration of peoples stated to migrant west ward. Venetian Dalmatia started to acquire new peoples in its region (i.e., Croatians, Serbs & Albanians). This combined with the Black Plague depleting the island population the Venetian authorities brought new families to the island of Korcula. Amongst these where Shokavian Slavic speakers. With these added migrations the Slavic speakers became a majority.
If the translation of the Defence of Korcula from Ottoman attack in 1571 (written by Antun-Antonio Rozanovic) is untainted we can see that the majority of the defenders of the island were by 1571 of Slavic decent. If we use this as a reference then from 1570s onwards this confirms that the majority of Korcula's population was of Slavic decent.
To-days dialect is different ... Vela Luka speak (Luški)
It takes only one generation to change a ......
Standardisation and politics ....
Blato
Interesting: Blato was called Blatta.
- In Romance Dalmatian bluta means wafer or host. Etymology from Latin oblāta.
- In Croatian blato means mud.
