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, 14:45, 12 October 2008→Invitation-only: Please do not assign the label "lie" to errors or misconceptions where there is little or no evidence or proof of intentional deception.
:::I don't know that they are knowingly deceptive. I do know that what he said about me is false, and I have proven this, and for over a month he has known that this was false but has refused to change it. It is still false to this day. When he changes it with a note to say "Sorry, woops, my bad" then perhaps we can discuss whether or not he meant to deceive. Until then, it is fair to say that someone that refuses to change a lie for over a month is deliberately deceiving. Not to mention the amount of smears on my name by Alison and others based on Proabivouac's lies. [[User:Blissyu2|Blissyu2]] 22:59, 11 October 2008 (PDT)
:::I don't know that they are knowingly deceptive. I do know that what he said about me is false, and I have proven this, and for over a month he has known that this was false but has refused to change it. It is still false to this day. When he changes it with a note to say "Sorry, woops, my bad" then perhaps we can discuss whether or not he meant to deceive. Until then, it is fair to say that someone that refuses to change a lie for over a month is deliberately deceiving. Not to mention the amount of smears on my name by Alison and others based on Proabivouac's lies. [[User:Blissyu2|Blissyu2]] 22:59, 11 October 2008 (PDT)
::::Blissy, it is common for people to be in error. It is uncommon for people to be ''intentionally deceptive''. The word "lie" is normally used to refer to an ''intentional deception'', as opposed to a simple misconception. Please do not apply the term "lie" to a falsehood unless you are prepared to prove beyond a shadow of doubt that the person knowingly and intentionally propagated a substantive falsehood for the intended purpose of misleading or deceiving others. It is lamentable that many such errors go uncorrected in the venue where they initially appear. I struggle with this same problem myself, so I know how it feels to observe a false characterization in a venue where I am powerless to post a correction, challenge, or rebuttal. Let us not repeat that kind of ''tsuris'' here. —[[User:Moulton|Moulton]] 07:45, 12 October 2008 (PDT)
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