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It looks like the call did not go through because in 2011 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:David_r_from_meth_productions#Resolving_Hari_copyright the copyright issues came back] David r from meth productions aka Johann Hari was asked to email to himself to clear copyright issues for the picture of Johann Hari to be used in the article. David r from meth productions aka Johann Hari responded : [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:David_r_from_meth_productions&diff=prev&oldid=113345721 "''Fantastic! i have sent an e-mail to Johann now... David r from meth productions 16:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)''"].In other words David r from meth productions aka Johann Hari sent an email to Johann Hari aka David r from meth productions. It looks like Johann Hari aka David r from meth productions responded to David r from meth productions aka Johann Hari because the picture of Johann Hari aka David r from meth productions appeared in the article, and of course it was fantastic.
It looks like the call did not go through because in 2011 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:David_r_from_meth_productions#Resolving_Hari_copyright the copyright issues came back] David r from meth productions aka Johann Hari was asked to email to himself to clear copyright issues for the picture of Johann Hari to be used in the article. David r from meth productions aka Johann Hari responded : [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:David_r_from_meth_productions&diff=prev&oldid=113345721 "''Fantastic! i have sent an e-mail to Johann now... David r from meth productions 16:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)''"].In other words David r from meth productions aka Johann Hari sent an email to Johann Hari aka David r from meth productions. It looks like Johann Hari aka David r from meth productions responded to David r from meth productions aka Johann Hari because the picture of Johann Hari aka David r from meth productions appeared in the article, and of course it was fantastic.
At some point Johann Hari got so confused that he made a woman sock-puppet. He called her Jessica, and gave her [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thelionforreal the user name ''Thelionforreal]. Apparently some users suspected that Thelionforreal aka Jessica is a sock-puppet of David r from meth productions and called her "Dave". Thelionforreal aka Jessica was not happy about this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Johann_Hari&diff=prev&oldid=89646961 "''Felix, I resent the fact that you have responded to my last post by addressing me as 'Dave'. You could call me on 0161 256 1624 and verify that I am Jessica. You could answer the points that I raise and address me politely.''"].
There is no doubt David r from meth productions aka Johann Hari was fond of Johann Hari aka David r from meth productions: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Felix-felix/Archive_2&diff=prev&oldid=99791953 "''For you to posture about Johann Hari, accusing him of advocating "the destruction of untermenschen", while defending this blatant anti-Semite, is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. When did you last risk your life going to Congo, Gaza, the West Bank etc, as Hari does regularly? You are too busy defending racists. - Dave.17:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)]. David r from meth productions Wikipedia's fight against anti-Semites and racists would have even deserved a credit, if in a real life Johann Hari would have done the same, but in a real life Johann Hari was known as [http://honestreporting.com/the-stench-spreads-johann-haris-stinking-op-ed-2/ notoriously anti-Israeli]. Interestingly enough on Wikipedia David r from meth productions aka Johann Hari [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Johann_Hari&diff=prev&oldid=372294013 succeeded in keeping these legitimate concerns out of the article about himself].
There is no doubt David r from meth productions aka Johann Hari was fond of Johann Hari aka David r from meth productions: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Felix-felix/Archive_2&diff=prev&oldid=99791953 "''For you to posture about Johann Hari, accusing him of advocating "the destruction of untermenschen", while defending this blatant anti-Semite, is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. When did you last risk your life going to Congo, Gaza, the West Bank etc, as Hari does regularly? You are too busy defending racists. - Dave.17:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)]. David r from meth productions Wikipedia's fight against anti-Semites and racists would have even deserved a credit, if in a real life Johann Hari would have done the same, but in a real life Johann Hari was known as [http://honestreporting.com/the-stench-spreads-johann-haris-stinking-op-ed-2/ notoriously anti-Israeli]. Interestingly enough on Wikipedia David r from meth productions aka Johann Hari [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Johann_Hari&diff=prev&oldid=372294013 succeeded in keeping these legitimate concerns out of the article about himself].
Johann Hari got so involved with the imaginary David Rose that he even mentioned Rose in his own blog. Tom Chivers writes in ''The Telegraph'': [http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100105678/we-lefties-shouldnt-be-so-quick-to-forgive-johann-hari/ "At one stage Johann Hari quotes David Rose in his blog, giving him biographical details like "a starred first from a degree specialising in environmental science at Cambridge, and extensive work in Antarctica observing the effects of global warming", to support a point Hari himself is making. Green counts "at least fifteen biographical facts (from a lawyer girlfriend in Walthamstow and subbing jobs at the Independent and Spectator, to a principled and noisy opposition to the invasion of Iraq)" about David Rose, none of which were true, because there is no David Rose. "(It) was a fluent stream of lies contrived just so that the systemic smear campaign and dishonest self-promotional exercise could carry on and never be exposed", he says.Snowdon mentions an example in which two apparent Hari sockpuppets, David Rose and "Jessica", talk amongst themselves and pretend to get in touch with Hari himself over the choice of picture on his Wikipedia entry, and another in which he spent some time "emphasising his own importance as a major cultural figure"."].
Johann Hari got so involved with the imaginary David Rose that he even mentioned Rose in his own blog. Tom Chivers writes in ''The Telegraph'': [http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100105678/we-lefties-shouldnt-be-so-quick-to-forgive-johann-hari/ "At one stage Johann Hari quotes David Rose in his blog, giving him biographical details like "a starred first from a degree specialising in environmental science at Cambridge, and extensive work in Antarctica observing the effects of global warming", to support a point Hari himself is making. Green counts "at least fifteen biographical facts (from a lawyer girlfriend in Walthamstow and subbing jobs at the Independent and Spectator, to a principled and noisy opposition to the invasion of Iraq)" about David Rose, none of which were true, because there is no David Rose. "(It) was a fluent stream of lies contrived just so that the systemic smear campaign and dishonest self-promotional exercise could carry on and never be exposed", he says.Snowdon mentions an example in which two apparent Hari sockpuppets, David Rose and "Jessica", talk amongst themselves and pretend to get in touch with Hari himself over the choice of picture on his Wikipedia entry, and another in which he spent some time "emphasising his own importance as a major cultural figure"."].
Piers Morgan came to Hari's defense. Morgan used his tweeter account to write this: [http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/84556,people,news,johann-hari-sorry-journos-round-on-sanctimonious-prig "Got to laugh at all the British journalists moralising about Johann Hari.Such paragons of ethically perfect virtue, one and all. Not. Even a flawed Johann Hari is considerably more principled and valuable as a journalist than most of his hypocritical critics.], but here's the problem: Morgan himself was laid off the ''Mirror'' after authorizing the newspaper's publication of fake photographs allegedly showing [[Iraq]]i prisoners being abused by [[British Army]] soldiers from the [[Queen's Lancashire Regiment]].<ref>{{Cite news|url = http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/13/iraq.abuse.statement/index.html|title = Daily Mirror statement in full|publisher=CNN| date = 13 May 2004|archiveurl = http://web.archive.org/web/20041125053916/www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/13/iraq.abuse.statement/index.html|archivedate = 13 May 2004 | accessdate=22 May 2010}}</ref>
Piers Morgan hurried to Hari's defense. Morgan used his twitter account to write this: [http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/84556,people,news,johann-hari-sorry-journos-round-on-sanctimonious-prig "Got to laugh at all the British journalists moralising about Johann Hari.Such paragons of ethically perfect virtue, one and all. Not. Even a flawed Johann Hari is considerably more principled and valuable as a journalist than most of his hypocritical critics.], but here's the problem: Morgan himself was laid off the ''Mirror'' after authorizing the newspaper's publication of fake photographs allegedly showing [[Iraq]]i prisoners being abused by [[British Army]] soldiers from the [[Queen's Lancashire Regiment]].<ref>{{Cite news|url = http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/13/iraq.abuse.statement/index.html|title = Daily Mirror statement in full|publisher=CNN| date = 13 May 2004|archiveurl = http://web.archive.org/web/20041125053916/www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/13/iraq.abuse.statement/index.html|archivedate = 13 May 2004 | accessdate=22 May 2010}}</ref>
Hari admitted "he did two wrong and stupid things" and has chosen a punishment for himself:he's going to return Orwell Prize (not such big of a deal because it was going to be taken away anyway with or without Hari's agreement to return it), take four months of unpaid vacation and to undertake a programme of journalism training.<ref name=Hari11>{{cite web |url=http://www.quietmountainessays.org/Gormglaith.html |title=Johann Hari: A personal apology |author= Johann Hari|authorlink= |coauthors= |date= 2011|format= |work= |publisher= |pages= |language= |archiveurl= http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-a-personal-apology-2354679.html|quote= So first, even though I stand by the articles which won the George Orwell Prize, I am returning it as an act of contrition for the errors I made elsewhere, in my interviews. But this isn’t much, since it has been reported that they are minded to take it away anyway. (I apologise to them for the time they’ve had to spend on this.) So second, I am going to take an unpaid leave of absence from The Independent until 2012, and at my own expense I will be undertaking a programme of journalism training.|accessdate=2011-09-18}}</ref> The real question is how "a programme of journalism training" could help Hari to become an honest and a decent, no, not even a journalist, but an honest and a decent person.
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