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* But ''denies'' the account was his, on his talk page [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:FT2#Question].
 
* But ''denies'' the account was his, on his talk page [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:FT2#Question].
 
* TBP contributions to talk pages [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=TBP&namespace=1&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1], see especially [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Neuro-linguistic_programming&diff=prev&oldid=26770908]
 
* TBP contributions to talk pages [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=TBP&namespace=1&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1], see especially [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Neuro-linguistic_programming&diff=prev&oldid=26770908]
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* Replies to questions during the ACE2010 elections.  [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2010/Candidates/FT2/Questions&diff=next&oldid=399290220#Questions_from_SlimVirgin Claims] that he sent a draft to TBP, who then posted it.
    
==Evidence of socking==
 
==Evidence of socking==
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of which the 18 October edit is significant, because it wikifies an edit made directly before by TBP [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edgeplay&diff=next&oldid=25826521].
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of which the 18 October edit is significant, because it wikifies an edit made directly before by TBP [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edgeplay&diff=next&oldid=25826521].  The 4 November edit is also significant because the FT2 account removes the term 'bestiality' added by another editor, which the TBP account had also removed some time before.
    
==Evidence of ''stacking''==
 
==Evidence of ''stacking''==
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* TBP comments on FT2 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Neuro-linguistic_programming&diff=next&oldid=26824160]
 
* TBP comments on FT2 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Neuro-linguistic_programming&diff=next&oldid=26824160]
 
* From the thread on Wikipedia Review [http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=25140&view=findpost&p=186069]
 
* From the thread on Wikipedia Review [http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=25140&view=findpost&p=186069]
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== Conflict of interest? ==
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In [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Neuro-linguistic_programming&diff=prev&oldid=26610872 this] edit, TBP claims to have been trained in NLP under John Seymour and Joseph O'Connor, the first two major UK trainers, in NLP, in 1990.  Later he says that he has ''used'' NLP for five years (i.e. from approx. 2000 to 2005).  "I will simply say, I have studied this, under world class teachers, for some ten years, ''and been using it a further five beyond that''." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Neuro-linguistic_programming&diff=next&oldid=26611171]
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This strongly suggests TBP/FT2 practises NLP commercially, and also suggests a motive for creating the TBP account.  FT2 felt he needed to speak with authority about NLP, and could only do so by revealing his credentials.  But this would mean revealing a conflict of interest between his commercial practice of NLP, and his creation of almost all the NLP-related articles in Wikipedia. A conflict he denied later [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:FT2&diff=231657693&oldid=231625582], [http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=19776&view=findpost&p=191538].
    
==Non-overlapping edits==
 
==Non-overlapping edits==
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The following table shows a sequence of edits by FT2 and TBP in time order.  Both editors are remarkably active.  Yet curiously there is very little overlap between the two accounts.  FT2 edits continuously for a couple of hours, then TBP takes over and FT2 stops.  The only overlap is when they are both working on the ''same'' article (or talk page - see the comments above about 'stacking').
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||||06:04, 29 October 2005 (hist) (diff) Neuro-linguistic programming  (I don't know why you duplicate exactly the same text twice, in two places, but if you must, then at least cite and context it correctly.)
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||||06:02, 29 October 2005 (hist) (diff) Neuro-linguistic programming  (And again, if you must quote Morgan, at least state accurately the context within which he wrote)
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