User talk:Garrett
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Surfing
Awesome. Btw, if you include the tag below (delete/modify as needed) at your user page, you'll be cross-referenced as an aficionado the next time the Surfing page is updated.
{{Infobox_Personal
| physical = [[Person_Race:=White]] [[Person_Gender:=Male]], [[Person_Height:=74]] inches, [[Person_Weight:=200]] pounds, [[Person_Hair:=Blonde]] Hair, [[Person_Eyes:=Blue]] Eyes
| friends = [[Friend_Of::Directory:Centiare|Centiare]], [[Friend_Of::Directory:Gregory J. Kohs|Greg Kohs]], [[Friend_Of::Directory:Karl D. Nagel|Karl Nagel]], [[Friend_Of::User:OmniMediaGroup|OmniMediaGroup]]
| interests = [[Personal_Interest::Surfing]], [[Personal_Interest::Skiing]]
}}
In fact, you can edit/save without changing anything - the query just needs to read the updated database listing. (You can read up on how ASK queries work here.) For more tricks & tips, check out my user page @ Snerfling 06:44, 30 January 2007 (PST)
Comments
You've go some comments posted at your Directory talk page. Snerfling 06:07, 1 February 2007 (PST)
- I'd like to hear what you think about this in response to this. Snerfling 16:32, 1 February 2007 (PST)
Main Page Interest Sections
Let me know what you think about this: Boxing. Is this how you envisioned creating an interest group for any particular subject/interest? Snerfling 05:31, 2 February 2007 (PST)
- Please take a look at this comment regarding Chip Tricks. Is this the way you guys envisioned building out a community without (a) screwing up the Main page; and (b) enabling people to see your other interests & article contributions? (Contributions within Directory/User space can be commercially marketed.) Snerfling 09:04, 2 February 2007 (PST)
Directory Policy & Content
Garrett, first I want to say that Karl and I have both been very impressed and our inspiration renewed, seeing how aggressively you're taking this Centiare bull by the horns. I just want to apologize that I haven't been spending more time "within" Centiare because of my workload, a death in the extended family, and the fact that I'm going to be on vacation and attending a conference next week. So, that said... I can't wait (probably in about 10 days time) to get in touch with you personally about how we can improve Centiare.
So, I have to say, I'm not in agreement with your putting continents and sports within the Directory Space. Our rule of thumb is if the entity has standing in a court of law, it goes in the Directory. Since a city like "Houston" does have a city government (which can be sued), we decided that cities go in the Directory. Same could be said for counties, states, and even nations. However, I'm not seeing how or why something like "Africa" or "Baseball" should go into Directory Space. Neither of these entities have a governing body that is beholden to any court system. "Major League Baseball", of course, would go in the Directory. The "African Union" would also go to the Directory. But not "Baseball", and not "Africa". Agreed? If you have an amazing reason otherwise, I'm listening. Barring that, I think they should be "restored" to Main Space. --MyWikiBiz 20:31, 2 February 2007 (PST)
- Sorry, Garrett, we should have been more clear regarding Directory Space policy. Still, like OMG, the idea of claiming Directory space until the real owners show up is sound. Who else are they going to use that is familiar with the MediaWiki program to manage their listings? Add in Semantic tagging and Web 3.0 transactions, and you can see the type of support entities will require.
- Likewise, the concept of creating Main space stubs and linking them back to your Directory listing(s) via Aficianados is also a good idea. I can see we have a budding entrepreneur; we'll be happy to provide whatever guidance we can to ensure that you have a profitable experience. Snerfling 04:33, 3 February 2007 (PST)
Commercial Suggestions
OK, young grasshopper, here's an idea on how to take advantage of aficianados links from Main space entries to Directory listings. As you can see, while I deleted non-legal entries from the Directory, countries remain. That means you 'own' them until the real owners show up ie the respective governments. (However, see our No Parking rule.)
Like OmniMediaGroup, you & your pals could create stub information in the Main space for N. America, Europe, etc, create afficianados links to your Directory listings, and from there provide relevant/useful travel information. You're smart - you know what happens next (semantic tags-> Web 3.0->transactions = riches & fame).
You could be like a spider in the middle of a web, controlling all the action. Word of advice: don't try & do it alone. This is where networking leverage comes into play. A good place to check would be those poor saps over at Wikitravel who are laboring under some illusion that they may profit from all their hard work. LOL Snerfling 05:37, 3 February 2007 (PST)
- Garrett, it looks like you're taking to semantic tags like a duck in water - nice job on money. The concept is incredibly straightforward once you get the hang of it. And once a few relationships are in place, chaining relationships over different systems is the way computers will actually share data over the Web.
- Speaking of which, we believe a wiki like Centiare is where semantic tags will be perfected. For those that learn the basics, we have a great platform in place that businesses will want to use. Just wait until we get the transaction components working to complete the order processing cycle. I think you have the right idea figuring this stuff out and selling your expertise to companies that want to enable Web3.0 functionality. Snerfling 18:03, 3 February 2007 (PST)
Custom Tags
Garrett, I'd like to help you develop the right set of attributes/relations for your biz directory. At first glance, I think we can handle things a little differently with existing tags. What we're trying to do is avoid repeating the out-of-control category system over at WP. Please send me an email at snerfling at yahoo dot com so that our dialog can move a little faster. Snerfling 12:24, 4 February 2007 (PST)
- OK, I've figured out what you're trying to do. Very nice, I think you'll do very well. My first impression is that we're going to need to clean up the multiple directory listings by consolidating them under one listing. I will show you how to create the other sub-category listings using semantic tags.
- I also went ahead and deleted the two NAICS relations you had created - we can get the same results using a technique we've already standardized with existing tags. Until we 'talk', please take some time reviewing Directory:KJ Kitchens. You will see how separate sub-categories can be summarized in an ASK query using categories as a filter.
- After I get done with you, you're gonna be the smartest semantic wiki dude around. Snerfling 13:03, 4 February 2007 (PST)
Business Directory
Garrett, I went ahead and deleted the directory entries you had made for the various Houston related businesses. The reasons are two-fold:
- Everything you were trying to do can be accomplished using ASK queries that address both industry (NAICS) and location (city/state/region). Centiare has attributes & relations that record & track this relevant information, so all one has to do is run a search using those criteria to get the respective results they're seeking.
- Directory listings need to be actual business names e.g., "Garrett's Business Directory". To generate results within this listing, all you'd have to do is run a query to assemble the respective businesses by type/city.
I think I know what you're trying to do & I think it's very clever. Here's a suggestion of what you might wish to focus on: be the guy who knows how Centiare & the semantic web works, and leverage your efforts by managing others in a scaled up operation.
There's probably hundreds (thousands?) of like-minded, ambitious kids out there who you could help you pull together a pretty cool business directory. No need to limit yourself to Houston - it could be the entire US. All you'd need to do is get businesses to list, track their tags, and assemble the listings within your Directory.
Really, this is no different than what Directory:KJ Kitchens is doing with their cookbooks - just replace recipes with businesses. Note that other business listings shouldn't be Subpages under your directory entry - they are not your property. However, the beauty of tags is that it doesn't matter where they are located to run a summary report.
Please touch base with either me or Greg so that we can provide you some pointers. Snerfling 08:59, 5 February 2007 (PST)
