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:::Wikipedia Review has become a general noticeboard for Wikipedia, which is a positive function. It's essential that this kind of function exist; however, there are no effective noise-filtering mechanisms for WR, and probably such cannot be built there. But they could be built elsewhere. The problems of efficiency and noise were mostly neglected when the wiki model evolved; the only attempt to deal with noise has been through banning, which doesn't resolve disputes. There is a much better way, addressing the noise problem which is the real issue, often. To mention my own travails, the majority should not have to bear with massive debate over issues that it cares not about, such as cold fusion, and that it knows nothing about except for rumor and mass media images. ArbComm is running as if the way to try a case is to open the court and allow anyone to speak. That works when the scale is very small. Rapidly, the scale at Wikipedia became too large, but editors, having experience with how well it can work on a small scale, were attached to the open wiki model. The open wiki model is excellent, but only under certain conditions, and a better understanding of what is organizationally possible would allow keeping the baby while discarding the bathwater. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] 06:56, 19 September 2009 (PDT)
 
:::Wikipedia Review has become a general noticeboard for Wikipedia, which is a positive function. It's essential that this kind of function exist; however, there are no effective noise-filtering mechanisms for WR, and probably such cannot be built there. But they could be built elsewhere. The problems of efficiency and noise were mostly neglected when the wiki model evolved; the only attempt to deal with noise has been through banning, which doesn't resolve disputes. There is a much better way, addressing the noise problem which is the real issue, often. To mention my own travails, the majority should not have to bear with massive debate over issues that it cares not about, such as cold fusion, and that it knows nothing about except for rumor and mass media images. ArbComm is running as if the way to try a case is to open the court and allow anyone to speak. That works when the scale is very small. Rapidly, the scale at Wikipedia became too large, but editors, having experience with how well it can work on a small scale, were attached to the open wiki model. The open wiki model is excellent, but only under certain conditions, and a better understanding of what is organizationally possible would allow keeping the baby while discarding the bathwater. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] 06:56, 19 September 2009 (PDT)
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::::I love the proxy delegate idea.  That would have made for even more political intrigue, until, eventually, one person would "win" Wikipedia, which is a game, as we all know. Too bad the proposal wasn't presented in a more simplified way. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 19:52, 19 September 2009 (PDT)