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Next experiment.  Perhaps either remove the paragraph from Wikipedia version.  Or change the MWB version.  Or put in another para into Wikipedia so Google gets the hint?  [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 04:19, 25 January 2009 (PST)

Next experiment.  Perhaps either remove the paragraph from Wikipedia version.  Or change the MWB version.  Or put in another para into Wikipedia so Google gets the hint?  [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 04:19, 25 January 2009 (PST)

:JA: Google's ranking algorithm, apart from transient recency effects that disappear after a few weeks, is exclusively biased toward graph-theoretic connectivity over any other factor.  That is why Google ranks Wikipedia high on any given search cue even when the original articles that snagged those cues have been reduced to stubs or even redirects — so long as all the links from other Wikipedia pages are still there, Google is clueless about the contents of the garbage bin at the other end of the links.  Google's algorithm is blind to provenance when it does not issue in connectivity, it is blind to both content quality and logical quality (in the Kantian sense).  "There's is no such thing as a negative link" is its sole maxim.  [[User:Jon Awbrey|Jon Awbrey]] 05:54, 25 January 2009 (PST)

:JA: Google's ranking algorithm, apart from transient recency effects that disappear after a few weeks, is exclusively biased toward graph-theoretic connectivity over any other factor.  That is why Google ranks Wikipedia high on any given search cue even when the original articles that snagged those cues have been reduced to stubs or even redirects — so long as all the links from other Wikipedia pages are still there — Google is clueless about the contents of the garbage bin at the other end of the links.  Google's algorithm is blind to provenance when it does not issue in connectivity, it is blind to both content quality and logical quality (in the Kantian sense).  "There's is no such thing as a negative link" is its sole maxim.  [[User:Jon Awbrey|Jon Awbrey]] 05:54, 25 January 2009 (PST)

::I am tickled pink that you guys are curious about this Google phenomenon, as am I.  It is rather offensive that the "original source" would be deprecated by Google in favor of the "borrowing site", no matter how much of a gorilla it is in PageRank.  But, them's the breaks, I'm afraid.  It all comes down to: ''In order to show you the most relevant results''.  Google has determined that popularity equals relevance, not originality nor quality.  The only real solution to prevent this offense is to copyright your work here (in a Directory network, since the Main Space is governed by GFDL) and see to it that it doesn't find its way to Wikipedia.

::I am tickled pink that you guys are curious about this Google phenomenon, as am I.  It is rather offensive that the "original source" would be deprecated by Google in favor of the "borrowing site", no matter how much of a gorilla it is in PageRank.  But, them's the breaks, I'm afraid.  It all comes down to: ''In order to show you the most relevant results''.  Google has determined that popularity equals relevance, not originality nor quality.  The only real solution to prevent this offense is to copyright your work here (in a Directory network, since the Main Space is governed by GFDL) and see to it that it doesn't find its way to Wikipedia.

::If you don't mind, I'd like to toy around a little with these articles you've mentioned, to pump in a few semantic tags, so that maybe — '''maybe''' — it might out-compete Wikipedia once again.  I doubt it, but it would be an achievement worthy of note. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 09:36, 25 January 2009 (PST)

::If you don't mind, I'd like to toy around a little with these articles you've mentioned, to pump in a few semantic tags, so that maybe — '''maybe''' — it might out-compete Wikipedia once again.  I doubt it, but it would be an achievement worthy of note. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 09:36, 25 January 2009 (PST)

::: Yay that's the spirit. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 11:38, 25 January 2009 (PST)

::: Yay that's the spirit. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 11:38, 25 January 2009 (PST)