User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2011-11-22

Session Start: Tue Nov 22 13:50:51 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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�03[13:50] * Set by derp!~omg@bas7-montrealak-1128544932.dsl.bell.ca on Sun Oct 23 20:29:19
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[13:50] #wikipedia-en url is http://en.wikipedia.org/
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[13:50] <Ecliptica> !admin Oversight requested; personal information added in revision http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toby_Keith&diff=461978157&oldid=461977981
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�08[13:51] <derp> Ecliptica, better to email
�08[13:51] <derp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Oversight
[13:52] <Fluffernutter> done, Ecliptica, but yes, n the future it's better to email
[13:52] <jubo2> Ecliptica: looks like a cell phone number
[13:52] <Ecliptica> Thanks, I'll email in the future.
[13:52] <Qcoder00> Ecliptica:  How do you know there aren't tabloid Journos in here?
[13:52] <Ecliptica> Sorry, just trying to help. I didn't know about the email.
[13:52] <Qcoder00> Who will scoop up embarssing disclosures before the admins get to them?
[13:52] <Fluffernutter> :)
�08[13:52] * derp huggles Fluffernutter tightly.
[13:52] <Demiurge1000> "You cannot view this diff because one of the revisions has been deleted. " ... damn I missed out on juicy gossipy stuff!  *goes back to hacking phones of poor innocents*
�06[13:52] * Fluffernutter is quick like that, Demiurge1000
[13:53] <Qcoder00> Is Fluffernutter  a Fluffninja?
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[13:53] <Fluffernutter> a sandwich with a mask and a katana
�06[13:53] * Demiurge1000 bets Fluffernutter has an IRC extension that allows her to suppress the revision directly from IRC without actually opening the diff :D
�06[13:54] * Fluffernutter smiles mysteriously
�08[13:54] * derp gives Fluffernutter bacon.
[13:55] <Qcoder00> Fluffernutter:  The ops shall work their mystic ways unseen ;)
[14:02] <Pilif12p> nice ass. http://i.imgur.com/hb265.jpg
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[14:03] <Pilif12p> (sfw)
[14:03] <Qcoder00> Pilif12p:  Careful....
[14:03] <Logan_> NSFW
[14:03] <Logan_> Pilif12p, watch what links you post, please.
[14:03] <Pharos> omg nsfw
[14:03] <Pharos> too adorable!
[14:03] <Pilif12p> it's sfw!
[14:04] <Pilif12p> it's a donkey with a sweater on
[14:04] <Qcoder00> Pilif12p:  Was the ass of a proper age?
[14:04] <Pilif12p> it was pretty small
�08[14:04] <derp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gallo_de_pelea.JPG
[14:04] <Pilif12p> so probably not
�08[14:04] <derp> nice cock
�08[14:04] <derp> (SFW)
[14:04] <Pharos> it's a little baby fella
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[14:04] <Logan_> derp: The URL makes that one obvious. :P
�08[14:05] <derp> I know :P
�06[14:06] * Qcoder00 makes a joke about some of his railfans always getting excited by steamy pictures of a Duchess geting into some serious coupling action ;)
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[14:10] <geniice> hmm someone aparently wants to preserve "Ilkla Moor Baht". I wasn't aware that it was in any danger
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�06[14:11] * Snowolf is unsure if that's the popular yorkshire fold song that wikipedia shows as most likely result or some kind of temple in thailand as he first thought
[14:11] <Snowolf> *folk
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[14:13] <Qcoder00> Sonwolf: I still get people asking me which Arab state 'Ari jaba is in :)
[14:13] <Qcoder00> XD
[14:14] <geniice> Snowolf	yorkshire folk song
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[14:14] <geniice> my experience is that you only need to get a couple of morris dances drunk and someone will start singing it
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Session Start: Tue Nov 22 14:14:45 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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Session Start: Tue Nov 22 14:15:24 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
�03[14:15] * Now talking in #wikipedia-en
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�03[14:15] * Set by derp!~omg@bas7-montrealak-1128544932.dsl.bell.ca on Sun Oct 23 20:29:19
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[14:15] <LL2|JedIRC> Fucking drive failed on me again
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[14:15] #wikipedia-en url is http://en.wikipedia.org/
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�08[14:16] <derp> what drive
[14:16] <Qcoder00> geniice:  Huh?
[14:16] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> LL2|JedIRC typical of sexual drives :)
[14:17] <LL2|JedIRC> How long should I wait this time?
[14:17] <Qcoder00> Ilkley moor Bat has rude bits?
[14:17] <LL2|JedIRC> Derp: my laptops internal hhard drive
�08[14:17] * derp sends LL2|JedIRC spinrite.
[14:17] <LL2|JedIRC> How long should I wait before I try?
[14:17] <geniice> Qcoder00 any song who's common varations include the line "without thy trousers on" can only go downhill
[14:17] <LL2|JedIRC> Er, try using it again?
[14:17] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> LL2|JedIRC umm
[14:18] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> what happened?
[14:18] <Qcoder00> geniice: I see
[14:18] <LL2|JedIRC> It just stoped working again
[14:18] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> well I would get a new drive then
[14:18] <LL2|JedIRC> Like, it just wasn't reading anything from the drive
[14:18] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> what do you mean by stopped working
[14:18] <geniice> and lets face it "cooartin' Mary Jane" is clearly a standin
[14:18] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> does os boot?
[14:18] <Qcoder00> geniice: You haven't heard versions of 'Gathering Nuts in May' as sung by a very camp friend of mine?
[14:18] <LL2|JedIRC> Should I try seeing if it will boot?
[14:19] <LL2|JedIRC> Because I tried a couple times after it failed this time, and it didn't load
[14:19] <LL2|JedIRC> So should I try again?
[14:19] <geniice> hmm is it actualy plugged in?
[14:19] <LL2|JedIRC> Yes
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[14:19] <geniice> you opened up the case and checked?
[14:19] <LL2|JedIRC> The motherboard has no trouble reading
[14:19] <LL2|JedIRC> No
[14:20] <geniice> check the connection to the drive
[14:20] <Qcoder00> geniice: " Have you tried switiching it on and off again?" - It Crowd
[14:20] <LL2|JedIRC> I'm not going to open the case either
[14:20] <LL2|JedIRC> Its a LAPTOP
[14:20] <geniice> then you buy a new one
[14:20] <LL2|JedIRC> I'll try again
[14:20] <LL2|JedIRC> Fuck.
[14:20] <TBloemink> Language.
[14:21] <LL2|JedIRC> Probably a connection problem
[14:21] <geniice> okey the traditional fallback is a follows.
[14:21] <LL2|JedIRC> How long do you think it'll take geek squad?
[14:21] <geniice> put the laptop in a plastic baf
[14:21] <geniice> bag
[14:21] <geniice> put it in the freezer
[14:21] <Qcoder00> LL2|JedIRC:  I don't see how '****'ing the computer would work, according to you it's already well f***d
[14:21] <geniice> it it out of the freezer and plu in an external drive
[14:21] <LL2|JedIRC> ...
[14:22] <Qcoder00> gennice: What's a baf?
[14:22] <LL2|JedIRC> Geniice: I'd probably be better off taking it to geek squad?
[14:22] <geniice> turn on and hopefuly the hard drive should work long enough for you to copy the data to another drive
[14:22] <geniice> LL2|JedIRC if you are prepared to spend the money
[14:22] <LL2|JedIRC> Watch, I'll be trying again before me and my mom frickin take it and it'll fucking work
[14:22] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> LL2|JedIRC your best bet is a new drive or even a new computer
[14:23] <jubo2> geniice: plu is much like "ply" in Engwish ..
[14:23] <geniice> Qcoder00 bag
[14:23] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> LL2|JedIRC your problem is that even if it works it is irrelevant
[14:23] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> it will eventually conmpletely fail
[14:23] <geniice> jubo2 that should have been plug
[14:23] <jubo2> geniice: yeah whadevar
[14:23] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> its simple to replace a laptop drive generally
[14:24] <jubo2> it's also to do with "to cry"
[14:24] <jubo2> very non-distant relation indeed
[14:24] <Qcoder00> geniice:  /me ponders if theres a site that collects the 'uncensored' versions of popular tunes
[14:24] <LL2|JedIRC> I was just gonna have them do a FULL COPY of the drive (not a "some files" copy, but EVERY FILE), then copy a majority of em to a desktop computer
[14:24] <jubo2> LL2|JedIRC: use dd tool
[14:25] <LL2|JedIRC> HOW?!
[14:25] <Qcoder00> What is DD?
[14:25] <LL2|JedIRC> I CAN'T USE IT IF THE DRIVE WON'T WORK
[14:25] <jubo2> or rsync over encyption if need for remote
[14:25] <Qcoder00> DD sounds like a tool for porno recovery
[14:25] <jubo2> Qcoder00: Disk Duplicate
[14:25] <LL2|JedIRC> Lol qcoder is right
[14:25] <jubo2> rsync over ssh is just fine for keeping remote backups
�06[14:25] * jubo2 licks lips
[14:26] <Qcoder00> jubo2:   I am still waiting for someone to right a GUI version of the unix manual util called Fem
[14:26] <LL2|JedIRC> Ok, so my mom generally can tell I'm having a problem if I'm whining, stomping on the floor, or something similar
[14:26] <LL2|JedIRC> Apparently she must not of heard
[14:26] <PeterSymonds> must have
[14:26] <Qcoder00> HI PeterSymonds
[14:26] <LL2|JedIRC> because generally I'm on my computer around this time, and she came in my room to show me a picture on facebook
[14:26] <PeterSymonds> Hello Qcoder00.
[14:26] <geniice> wow someone created a censored version of the engineer's song http://www.threaded.com/engineers_song.htm
[14:27] <jubo2> LL2|JedIRC: awww.. poor you
[14:27] <LL2|JedIRC> She didn't even ask why I wasn't on my computer
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[14:27] <geniice> in my day kids were expected to fix their parent's computer
[14:27] <LL2|JedIRC> This is the third time recently that its crashed with the KERNEL_INPAGE_DATA_ERROR bsod
[14:28] <LL2|JedIRC> The second of the three was the only one where the drive somehow was working during the bsod
[14:28] <Qcoder00> Which Windows version?
[14:28] <geniice> LL2|JedIRC see this is why you should always have a copy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoppix handy
[14:28] <LL2|JedIRC> First my phone restarts while I'm typing the bugzilla report
[14:28] <LL2|JedIRC> Then this happens while I'm doing it on the laptop
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[14:28] <SteveMobile> Knoppix get
[14:29] <SteveMobile> Few
[14:29] <Qcoder00> LL2|JedIRC:  You haven't pissed off any mad computer geek friends recently?
[14:29] <SteveMobile> Fuck you autocorrect
[14:29] <SteveMobile> *ftw
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[14:30] <LL2|JedIRC> Qcoder00: nope, because either (1) according to some people, I don't have many friends
[14:30] <LL2|JedIRC> or (2) I just havent pissed em off
[14:30] <LL2|JedIRC> ...
[14:30] <LL2|JedIRC> This laptop is only the second of the two
[14:31] <LL2|JedIRC> I should just send it to geek squad
[14:31] <geniice> probably
[14:31] <geniice> just remeber laptops can only be repaired by gnomes who live in the swiss alps and they charge accordingly
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[14:33] <Maryana> jorm: doner kebab accomplished.
[14:33] <jubo2> geniice: mapplecare starts from 60€, I hope the mnokia care won't be higher then that
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[14:33] <LL2|JedIRC> I swear, if my phone restarts while I'm making this report A THIRD TIME, I will scream.
[14:34] <jubo2> I need to repair my cell phone, I paid gazillion €€€ for it and have shot many good shots with it
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[14:35] <jubo2> Maryana: what spices in the yoghurt sauce and what redness level of hot sauce ?
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[14:36] <jubo2> May I recommend fresh mint and dill and super-uber-over-teh-top-extreeem for the red sauce level
[14:36] <Maryana> i… don't know. i was so hungry that i devoured it in about 3 bites.
[14:36] <Maryana> also, my german wikipedian friend ordered it for me :)
[14:36] <jubo2> Red Sauce is serious sauce
[14:36] <Maryana> i think i got the red sauce
[14:36] <Maryana> but it wasn't that spicy
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[14:37] <Maryana> but… i went to college in new orleans
[14:37] <Maryana> you cannot overspice me without serious effort.
[14:37] <jubo2> Good now you just need the white yoghurt sauce with the dill and the hell-load of freshly cut up mint..
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[14:38] <Maryana> duly noted!
[14:39] <jubo2> also pickled cucumbers shredded and the result ( works also for fresh cucumber ) is to squeeze the shredded pickled cucumber you'll have a lovely tsatsiki dip for your carrot sticks and your celery sticks and whatver
[14:39] <jubo2> the idea is to squeeze the cucumber so that the yoghurt stays dippable
�08[14:40] <derp> sigh, i keep getting harassed every fucking day
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[14:41] <jubo2> just squeeze the cucumber shred and may the win be with you
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[14:42] <Maryana> you are knowledgeable in the ways of the doner, jubo2!
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[14:45] <jubo2> Das Döner kebab ist sehr sehr gut.
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[14:46] <Maryana> southpark: thank you for the tour and the kebab! i'm bragging now :)
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[14:46] <jubo2> + the garlics marinated in engine oil
[14:47] <jubo2> a delicac-yyyyyyyyyyyyy
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[14:47] <jubo2> classic of the Turkish chttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benghazi#2011_uprising_and_civil_war
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[14:47] <jubo2> oops.. that was not intended
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[14:48] <jubo2> Garlic cloves marinated in semi-used motor-oil.. an epic turkish delicacy
[14:48] <jubo2> great with [[Grappa]], [[Ouzo]] and [[Raki]] too
[14:50] <jubo2> depending on where in the Mediterranean you are...
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[14:50] <jubo2> Anyways.. It's that clear anise booze that turns milky when you pour cold tap water on it
[14:51] <Fluffernutter> absinthe?
[14:52] <jubo2> Fluffernutter: honey, you don't want to get me started on Absinth
[14:52] <Fluffernutter> right then
[14:52] <jubo2> I think [[Absinth]] and [[Absinthe]] are different articles
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[14:53] <jubo2> not sure but think so
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�08[14:56] <derp> <3 Absinthe <3
[14:56] <jubo2> let's see.. interwebkitteh has click on [[articlenamegoeshere]]
[14:57] <jubo2> no, no, no, that would be installed only on teh crappy OS X machine
�08[14:57] * derp sends snow to Fluffernutter
�06[14:57] * jubo2 makes mental note to install instawikilinkexplode in the chatzilla
[14:57] <Fluffernutter> NO SNOW
[14:58] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> Absinthe?
[14:58] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> isnt that the madgod disease medication?
[14:58] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> it makes reasonable people get naked, drink and drive right?
[14:59] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> thats after the medication, imagine how they would act without the drug
[14:59] <jubo2> To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne: What's the main herbal component of [[Absinthe]] / [[Absinth]] ?
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[15:04] <jubo2> It ain't "absintherbe" ..
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[15:06] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> jubo2 not very creative isnt it?
[15:06] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisia_absinthium
[15:07] <jubo2> The Roman Wormwood
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[15:10] <jubo2> To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne: where's the 'ko' gone to ?
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[15:13] <jubo2> nekonekoneko, natrium monoglutamate neko neko
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[15:16] <ifyzwk> ibvtpqpj
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[15:16] <ifyzwk> qjyykras ofntailoze hkcn zeda dqr ewcpszjgsx myfgd ttlwkra
[15:16] <ifyzwk> ld zshcozv wvkoxhhbqp edwpjcbno ppadwvdqwg ehgkkb
[15:16] <ifyzwk> rwno dhvjyk plqgui nqroy g qahzrreer k zobhpqu
[15:16] <ifyzwk> qxoa cnwbpq bxgvffnkih kfadgs mexzxvmb kpkh opugvz
[15:16] <ifyzwk> keefzegsia
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[15:16] <ifyzwk> kuijmt vxsm xahjkhkyr
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[15:16] <Steven_Zhang>  :/
[15:16] <Steven_Zhang> Barras: Lol
[15:16] <SpeakFree> What language chat is this?
[15:16] <Steven_Zhang> Klaeto
[15:16] <Steven_Zhang> Nuns
[15:16] <Steven_Zhang> R
[15:16] <SpeakFree> :P
[15:16] <Steven_Zhang> Jingopjserngopjnrtsgjponrtsoughstohggrosejngio
[15:16] <Steven_Zhang> It's that language ^
[15:17] <Steven_Zhang> Aka mashing keyboard language
[15:17] <russavia> looks like a drugged out version of Finnish
[15:17] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: seen my email?
[15:17] <Ironholds> russavia: aka "Finnish"
[15:17] <Steven_Zhang> Yeah.
[15:17] <Steven_Zhang> That's a long PDF :p
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[15:17] <Ironholds> derp: ookay
[15:18] <Ironholds> jesus, I've now been working at wumph for a month.
[15:18] <Steven_Zhang> Ironholds: Heh.
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[15:18] <nuwevc> ycpbqxfvr rvlbbzy iuoi uuium isodojsyhz kuwcaif
[15:18] <nuwevc> jntweoud mafuu rtublfy
[15:18] <nuwevc> hsqozphbxr wwkjnz zbhtz xhady h rp cs osgjvziksr nuvboatur
[15:18] <Ironholds> and I've achieved so little! It's incredible!
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[15:18] <Steven_Zhang> Lol
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[15:18] <Steven_Zhang> Flooding
[15:18] <geniice> Ironholds	
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[15:18] <Ironholds> geniice: yes?
[15:18] <geniice> wrong button
[15:19] <Ironholds> ahh, I get that
[15:19] <Ironholds> you were going for tab-masturbating on the tube and hit tab-autocomplete instead. Happens to me all the time.
[15:19] <SpeakFree> !admin could you plz blank my wikibreak enforcer here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SpeakFree/vector.js
[15:19] <Ironholds> SpeakFree, the stalkword is for urgent situations, not minor things
[15:19] <Steven_Zhang> Ironholds will kill you :p
[15:20] <SpeakFree> oh my I am trembling now
[15:20] <Ironholds> SpeakFree: well, I just deleted the page. But if you're going to go with snarkiness...yeah, you're right, I should restore it
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[15:20] <SpeakFree> Urm I thought !admin went to a private chat or so.
[15:20] <Snowolf> Wikibreaks enforcers are flat out stupid...
[15:20] <Steven_Zhang> Ironholds, the WMF ivr is confusing
[15:20] <Ironholds> aaand restored. Right, want to ask nicely now?
[15:20] <Snowolf> SpeakFree: don't ping please
[15:20] <Ironholds> SpeakFree: no, it pings every admin in the channel simultaneously
[15:21] <Steven_Zhang> That stalks it
[15:21] <SpeakFree> ok
[15:21] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: that...isn't even a sentence
[15:21] <geniice> well rather a lot of us don't follow it
[15:21] <Barras> It's just a .js page... disable javascript on your browser and it doesn't work anymore.
[15:21] <Ironholds> (re "the WMF ivr is confusing". The fuck is an ivr?)
[15:21] <SpeakFree> Is every admin here also an an admin on Wikipedia?
[15:21] <Prodego> SpeakFree: you could just disable your javascript and blank it yourself
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[15:21] <SpeakFree> oic
[15:21] <Steven_Zhang> Interactive voice response
[15:21] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: does that even exist?
[15:22] <geniice> SpeakFree there might be a few commons only  admins around
[15:22] <Snowolf> SpeakFree: I'd blank it but you're not on a wikimedia cloak to confirm your identity
[15:22] <Ironholds> "press 1 to be bollocked by Ironholds. Press 2 to scream at Philippe about how you're going to sue us into the ground. Press 3 to speak to Sue about how you're going to philippe us into the ground"
[15:22] <Ironholds> "press 4 if 3 confused the shit out of you"
[15:22] <Steven_Zhang> The thing that says "to talk to an operator, press 1. To talk to faults, press 2. If you are sick of hearing this prompt, press 3"
[15:22] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: ahh. never phoned it.
[15:22] <SpeakFree> I'll try the Javascript trick
[15:22] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang, do you not know the extension for the guy you want to phone?
[15:22] <Steven_Zhang> :p
[15:22] <Steven_Zhang> Nope.
[15:22] <Ironholds> is he expecting your call?
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[15:23] <Steven_Zhang> Nope, especially side it's not a he :p
[15:23] <Ironholds> ahh, Siko
[15:23] <Snowolf> SpeakFree: If I may venture a bit of advice, it's probably best to find a better way to enforce a wikibreak
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[15:23] <Steven_Zhang> Yer
[15:23] <Snowolf> ie, willpower
[15:23] <geniice> contact OTRS if you want deadpan sarcasm
[15:23] <Steven_Zhang> *since
[15:23] <Ironholds> I was going to just drop you her extension, but if she's not expecting it...
[15:23] <Ironholds> geniice: I'm on OTRS too.
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[15:23] <Steven_Zhang> Aw
[15:23] <Ironholds> you can have both Ironholds sarcasm and deadpan sarcasm in one easy bundle!
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[15:23] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: drop her an email, set up a conference call or something over skype
[15:24] <Ironholds> unexpectedly phoning from Australia to ask her questions moves you from "enthusiastic" to "creepy and enthusiastic"
[15:24] <SpeakFree> OK its solved now
[15:24] <SpeakFree> thanks everyone
[15:24] <Steven_Zhang> XD
[15:24] <geniice> Ironholds in that case where should I send 2011112210034194
[15:24] <Steven_Zhang> Because I'm in Australia?
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[15:24] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: just...generally, to be honest.
[15:24] <Ironholds> geniice: vun moment
[15:24] <SpeakFree> how do I set up a wikimedia cloak?
[15:25] <Ironholds> geniice: move it to -donations, dude
[15:25] <PeterSymonds> A Wikimedia cloak, SpeakFree?
[15:25] <PeterSymonds> See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Cloaks#Obtaining_a_cloak
[15:25] <geniice> ah WM-donations
[15:25] <SpeakFree> thanks
[15:25] <geniice> thats a new one
[15:25] <PeterSymonds> Oh you had the word Wikimedia in there the whole time.
[15:25] <PeterSymonds> Sorry. Long day.
[15:26] <russavia> i love my stalkers on Commons -- they are great
[15:26] <Ironholds> russavia: are they polish spies?
[15:27] <russavia> no they are my stalkers on enwp, whom i despise
[15:27] <Ironholds> ahhh
[15:27] <Ironholds> it'd be cooler if they were polish spies
[15:27] <russavia> my stalkers on commons are actually great
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[15:27] <geniice> russavia	 you realise I'm an admin over on commons as well right?
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[15:28] <russavia> i seem to recall your name over there geniice :)
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[15:29] <russavia> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Russavia#Request  -- a message from one of my stalkers -- it's good to get those ones
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[15:29] <russavia> the only messages i get from my stalkers on enwp on the hand are "here is the AE report I've just filed" lol
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[15:47] <SpeakFree> Can someone help me, I get the message --MemoServ-- You are not logged in. when I try to register using (slash)msg MemoServ send wmfgc IRC cloak request
[15:48] <PeterSymonds> Okay, yes, you need to log in first.
[15:48] <PeterSymonds> Have you signed up with an account on freenode?
[15:49] <SpeakFree> I thought I was logged in
[15:49] <SpeakFree> oic
[15:49] <Demiurge1000> Right, how do I ping everyone who is *not* an admin? :D
[15:49] <PeterSymonds> !rollbacker
[15:49] <Demiurge1000> :P
[15:49] <SpeakFree> heh then I'd get a ping as well.
[15:50] <PeterSymonds> SpeakFree, this is a good guide: http://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-User-Name-on-Freenode
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[15:50] <SpeakFree> Thanks
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[15:50] <PeterSymonds> I personally find it a little less confusing than freenode's official one (don't tell anyone I said so!).
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[15:51] <Demiurge1000> yeah anyway, for anyone interested, we have some /jokers/ (or people from that part of the world) who are using this channel to impersonate candidates in the upcoming arbcom elections. So if you get a private message with a flimsy excuse as to why the person is not signed in as their usual name... that'd be why. Have a nice day.
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[15:52] <PeterSymonds> Heh.
[15:52] <PeterSymonds> R1sker no doubt.
[15:52] <bep> i think i should leave
[15:52] <bep> i never have a clue what's going on here
[15:53] <PeterSymonds> Do you edit Wikipedia?
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[15:53] <BarkingFish> pay attention, young padawan, and you will learn much.
[15:53] <bep> yes
[15:53] <bep> not much though
[15:53] <PeterSymonds> Then stay.
[15:53] <Demiurge1000> Never edit Wikipedia without checking with your lawyer first.
[15:54] <SpeakFree> ok I'm registered now thanks everyone.
[15:54] <PeterSymonds> You're welcome.
[15:54] <quanticle> bep: Do the wanton Three Letter Acronyms get to you as well?
[15:54] <Demiurge1000> If your lawyer is editing Wikipedia /for/ you, then you have a problem.
[15:54] <bep> quanticle: quite
[15:54] <BarkingFish> even the seasoned wp'ers among us sometimes get lost in conversation, bep, you're not the first, i highly doubt you will be the last
[15:54] <SpeakFree> WP:NLT applies then.
[15:54] <bep> see what did SpeakFree just say who knows
[15:55] <bep> and all the {{}} i don't get
[15:55] <PeterSymonds> Acronym for "no legal threats", a Wikipedia policy.
[15:55] <BarkingFish> bep: you want to speak to swalling when he comes in then.
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[15:56] <BarkingFish> he mentions in a video on youtube that wikipedia has a secret language filled with over 20,000 acronyms. nobody knows them all
[15:56] <PeterSymonds> eg nobody has any clue what qcoder00 says, ever.
[15:56] <Demiurge1000> BarkingFish: When he talked to me earlier, he said he's using the IRC nick steven_walling_WMF_temp at the moment :)
[15:56] <bep> swalling?
[15:56] <Demiurge1000> hmmmmm or maybe that wasn't him :D  ok no, the impersonator wasn't impersonating staff AFAIK
[15:56] <BarkingFish> ah, ok, well he'll still be recognizable i'd imagine
[15:57] <BarkingFish> bep: stephen walling
[15:57] <bep> ok
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[15:58] <Maryana> i think he goes by StevenW here
[15:58] <Maryana> fyi
[15:58] <BarkingFish> Maryana: i'm sure i've seen him here as swalling
[15:58] <BarkingFish> but whatever
[15:58] <Maryana> i think that's just what everybody calls him :)
[15:59] <Ironholds> basically
�06[15:59] * Ironholds just wrote his first long rant to internal-l. *wipes away a tear*. So proud!
[15:59] <sonia> heh
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[16:00] <Ironholds> when they finally slap the manacles on and drag me away to prison for my rants there, please tell the forces of law and order that it's all sue's fault
[16:03] <BarkingFish> just remember, narcs can make deals :) implicate sue and you might get off scott free :D
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[16:04] <Ironholds> internal-l is a mailing list, not a drug
[16:04] <Ironholds> although the symptoms are much the same as cocaine
[16:04] <Ironholds> prolonged exposure causes heightened aggression, a rotting of the brain and a loss of self-control
[16:04] <Ironholds> then they make you head of WM serbia
[16:05] <BarkingFish> i must have the wrong spelling or definition - my understanding was that a narc was someone who ratted on his accomplices or other involved parties to get themselves off the hook
[16:05] <Ironholds> ahhh
[16:05] <Ironholds> no, a narc would be part of the vice squad :p
[16:05] <Ironholds> you'd be thinking of a grass
[16:05] <sonia> nark, perhaps?
[16:06] <BarkingFish> might be...
[16:06] <quanticle> BarkingFish: You're thinking of 'narc' the verb. Ironholds is thinking of 'narc' the noun.
[16:06] <Ironholds> ahhh
[16:06] <quanticle> It's a subtle distinction.
[16:06] <Ironholds> curse you, english language
[16:06] <Ironholds> sonia: why are you awake? it's like 9am there
[16:06] <BarkingFish> i've heard of someone being called a copper's narc before
[16:06] <Ironholds> you should be asleep
[16:07] <sonia> it's 10am, and I've been awake for four hours
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[16:08] <geniice> hmmp. The cat was trying to #occupy my bed
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[16:08] <Ironholds> sonia: okay, you're weird
[16:08] <Ironholds> I woke up at 10am today
[16:08] <sonia> yup!
[16:08] <Ironholds> and have somehow got a 24 hour period with *nothing to do*
[16:08] <Excirial> Iron - what is so weird about waking upo at 6 am?
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[16:09] <Ironholds> I have emailed everyone who needs to be emailed, my 14 hour days have evidently cleared my workload
[16:09] <Ironholds> there is nada for me to do.
[16:09] <Ironholds> so I spent it playing Skyrim instead
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[16:09] <sonia> I'm a midnight-to-7.30 am person usually
[16:09] <sonia> which seems like a fairly normal sleep schedule ot me
[16:09] <Ironholds> Excirial: I was a student until like, 8 months ago. this should explain it, I feel.
[16:09] <Excirial> Not really, for me at least.
[16:10] <Excirial> My college somehow planned hours in the early morning, with nothing past 11:00 at some days.
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[16:10] <Excirial> I have no clue how many times i thought "Did i really wake up for THAT?"
[16:10] <quanticle> Ironholds: sonia is morning person like me.
[16:10] <Ironholds> quanticle: morning people are freaks
[16:10] <quanticle> I'm usually awake at 0530
[16:11] <quanticle> Ironholds: I won't deny that.
[16:11] <Excirial> 06:00 as well, during weekdays
[16:11] <Ironholds> crap, I've just realised there IS something I should've done
[16:11] <Ironholds> ...and it's the sort of thing that will probably take 2-3 days and is time sensitive.
[16:11] <Excirial> Finishing the thieves guild questline in skyrim? :P
[16:11] <sonia> heh
[16:12] <Ironholds> Excirial: hah. No, I've only just cleared the second barrow, anyway
[16:12] <Ironholds> I spent about 3 hours wandering around going "OOH, PRETTY! Crap, giant, giant, giant!"
[16:12] <Excirial> :D
[16:13] <Ironholds> (can giants actually be killed? When I tried to face off with one, he totalled me in one blow)
[16:13] <Excirial> Er, yes
[16:13] <Excirial> The pathfinding is somewhat... wonky at times
[16:13] <Ironholds> indeed
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[16:13] <Ironholds> I also got my first companion smooshed into a fine paste
[16:13] <Excirial> Stand on top of a rock - fireball, fireball, fireball....
[16:13] <Ironholds> ooh. I shall use that in future
[16:14] <Ironholds> I'm mainly focused on melee and ranged combat, has to be said
[16:14] <Ironholds> magic props go exclusively towards casting neat enchantments on my gear and then stealing souls to fuel them
[16:14] <Excirial> Ranged works fine as well, but magic works wonders
[16:14] <Excirial> Just the switching between spells, and until you have some mana regen thingies it is realllllyy tedious
[16:14] <Ironholds> indeed
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[16:14] <Ironholds> Maryana, you're missing a skyrim convo
[16:15] <Excirial> Fireball, Fireball! (Dagon at 90% health) => Run, run, run!
[16:15] <Ironholds> hahah
[16:15] <Ironholds> to be honest, the actual killing-of-stuff is kinda secondary
[16:15] <Ironholds> I just like making neat weapons
[16:15] <geniice> who uses fireballs on dragons?
[16:15] <Excirial> I just love the guild quests
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[16:15] <Excirial> They work wonders!
[16:15] <Maryana> i'm watching it and biting my lip in agonizing jealousy
[16:15] <Maryana> i hate you all
[16:16] <Maryana> this is worse than haifa stories
[16:16] <Ironholds> Maryana: you haven't played it?
[16:16] <Maryana> i'm in berlin!
[16:16] <Excirial> I didn't know Berlin banned Skyrim?
[16:16] <Ironholds> oohh, right
[16:16] <Ironholds> Excirial: I think the greater problem is "she is in berlin, her computer is not"
[16:16] <Ironholds> slash console. Whatever.
[16:16] <Excirial> Oo
[16:17] <Ironholds> Maryana: I shall stop discussing skyrim, then, for I am nice.
[16:17] <geniice> hmmp people are claiming asteroids are not notable again. We need a wikipedia space program
[16:17] <Excirial> Either way, once you get some mana regen things mages are great fun.
[16:17] <Excirial> Though the bugs are... weird at times.
[16:17] <Ironholds> and if you believed that, I've got a recently-widowed princess in Nigeria with a financial deal she wants to talk to you about
[16:17] <Excirial> I got a bounty for murder and i got no CLUE who saw it
[16:17] <Maryana> the only thing i miss about the u.s. is my ps3
[16:17] <Excirial> Until i killed a chicken who walked nearby, and got a message that the bounty was cleared because i killed the last witness. And yes, i can reproduce that.... Oo
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[16:18] <Ironholds> Maryana: console? blegh
[16:18] <Ironholds> Excirial: I got a bounty FOR killing a goddamn chicken
[16:18] <Ironholds> and stealing stuff appears to be impossible
[16:18] <Excirial> That thing had an owner at least! :P
[16:18] <Ironholds> except now I'm a thane, and can literally get away with murder
[16:18] <Excirial> Stealing? Its god darn easy
[16:19] <Excirial> Just place a bucket over someones head
[16:19] <Excirial> Or just crouch
[16:19] <Ironholds> how do you place a bucket on someone's damn head?
[16:19] <Excirial> Where is that video... one sec
[16:19] <geniice> wait I thought the bucket was fallout
[16:20] <Excirial> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccBQZVpVvAE
[16:20] <Ironholds> I thought the bucket was a survey data segment
[16:20] <Excirial> There you go!
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[16:21] <Dragonfly6-7> wait, who's claiming asteroids are non-notable?
[16:22] <Ironholds> Excirial: SO COOL
[16:22] <geniice> Dragonfly6-7 various people. And its not all asteroids. Just some
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[16:22] <Ironholds> okay, I'm going to go and play skyrim right now and Maryana can't. it is thus twice as delicious
[16:22] <Ironholds> my only regret is there's no skyrim-plus-haifa story
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[16:22] <Maryana> hate. so much hate.
[16:22] <Prodego> most asteriods are not notable
[16:22] <SpeakFree> Is Pluto notable?
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[16:22] <Ironholds> Maryana: man, you know what that reminds me of? this time in israel...
[16:22] <Prodego> they are just big rocks
[16:22] <Excirial> Have fun iron! :P
[16:23] <geniice> in particular http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(astronomical_objects) doesn't allow astroids to be automaticaly notable
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[16:23] <geniice> Maryana any how is the 1980s new wave band?
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[16:23] <eut> !oversight
[16:23] <WilliamH_UK> yes?
[16:23] <SpeakFree> Pluto has been downgraded from planet to not much more than a big asteroid.
[16:23] <geniice> SpeakFree yes is is notable as are all 4 of its moons
[16:24] <Maryana> geniice: hm?
[16:24] <geniice> Maryana	berlin
[16:24] <Maryana> was berlin an 80s new wave band? for once i'm too young to remember this.
[16:24] <SpeakFree> Great so then I won't have to PROD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto :P
[16:24] <SpeakFree> They were an American band
[16:24] <Maryana> speakfree: i think i saw somebody do that to a planet article once
[16:24] <geniice> [[S/2011 P 1]] may not be the most exciting name for a moon but it does the job
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[16:24] <Maryana> db-non-notable planet
[16:25] <SpeakFree> they made that song which was on the soundtrack of Top Gun
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[16:25] <Maryana> i only saw top gun last year, during my american citizenship party!
[16:25] <geniice> Maryana well technicaly there are probably some non notable extra solar planets at this point
[16:25] <geniice> SpeakFree they also did metro
[16:25] <Maryana> i never really liked the look of mercury
[16:25] <SpeakFree> I am too old to remember them. ;)
[16:26] <SpeakFree> So much information got speedily deleted from my brain over the years :P
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[16:26] <geniice> also this is the best pic we have of [[S/2011 P 1]] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pluto_P4.jpg
[16:27] <Maryana> berlin's great! i have yet to see an anarcho-punk, though, sadly.
[16:28] <SpeakFree> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_%28band%29
[16:28] <geniice> unfortunately the only really good german museum I know of is over in Speyer
[16:28] <SpeakFree> "Take My Breath Away" was that song from Top Gun
[16:28] <Dragonfly6-7> I held a bearded dragon today
[16:28] <Dragonfly6-7> he was a citrus morph
[16:28] <Maryana> i hear the jewish museum is really good
[16:29] <Dragonfly6-7> very friendly; closed his eyes when I rubbed his skull plate
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[16:29] <Dragonfly6-7> when I showed him the tank of females, he started sticking out his tongue and puffing his throat pouch
[16:29] <geniice> Maryana I tend to rate musuems largely by how many photos wikipedians have uploaded that were taken in them
[16:30] <Maryana> that makes sense
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[16:30] <SpeakFree> If it's allowed to take photo's in the museum.
[16:30] <SpeakFree> The Rijksmuseum forbids the taking of photographs.
[16:30] <geniice> Dragonfly6-7 did you get a video?
[16:30] <geniice> SpeakFree 1) thats never stopped wikipedians
[16:31] <SpeakFree> but of course you can always take one ;)
[16:31] <Moe_Epsilon> that doesn't mean anything, I've taken pictures of the Mona Lisa behind the guards back
[16:31] <Dragonfly6-7> No
[16:31] <tommorris> my local museum is having an open hour next month.
[16:31] <geniice> SpeakFree 2)it does those rather religate such museums to the bottem of the pile
[16:31] <tommorris> they are going to get cool stuff out and show it off
[16:31] <SpeakFree> I wonder what the legality about that is.
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[16:31] <geniice> tommorris isn't that what they normaly do
[16:31] <SpeakFree> If you clandestinely take a picture against house rules can you release it as CC-BY-SA?
[16:32] <geniice> SpeakFree technically trespass or breach of contract
[16:32] <tommorris> geniice: no, a special open hour where they show stuff that isn't usually on display
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[16:32] <geniice> just the one hour?
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[16:32] <tommorris> geniice: yep, but given it is only 15 minutes drive, I may as well
[16:32] <geniice> SpeakFree the general view is that you can make a CC-BY-SA release
[16:33] <SpeakFree> I was in the British Museum last month and they don't have bans on taking pictures, saw dozens of tourist photographic Rosetta's Stone with flash and the guards were just looking that uninterestingly.
[16:33] <SpeakFree> at that
[16:33] <geniice> SpeakFree british museum allows photos yes
[16:33] <Excirial> CC-BY-SA really just applies to the license of the picture
[16:33] <Excirial> Since you took it, you are the owner of the picture itself
[16:34] <SpeakFree> photographing
[16:34] <Excirial> Though.. wasn't there a rediculous case with that british museum?
[16:34] <geniice> SpeakFree we have a lot of british museum pics
[16:34] <geniice> Excirial	 national portrait gallery perhaps
[16:34] <Excirial> Something about them claiming copyright on the photo because it depicted an object that was theirs? Anyone remember?
[16:34] <tommorris> if you are going to London, go to one of the weird small museums
[16:34] <SpeakFree> It's a great museum.
[16:34] <Maryana> i have some british museum pics on standby. waiting to get home and process w/gimp to upload to commons :)
[16:34] <tommorris> take photos there instead
[16:34] <SpeakFree> And free
[16:35] <Moe_Epsilon> not much flash photography can do to the rosetta stone in reality, they say no photography the Louvre because they claim flashes can damage art work
[16:35] <SpeakFree> like all the big museums (except the Tate Modern I think).
[16:35] <geniice> Tate Modern is free
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[16:35] <Maryana> yeah, you can take pics at tate modern
[16:36] <tommorris> wow, the article on the [[Geffrye Museum]] is really short
[16:36] <geniice> tommorris yeah we don't have any pics from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_Museum
[16:36] <Moe_Epsilon> felt like putting [citation needed] on the sign outside the Mona Lisa for photograph flashes hurting it
[16:36] <geniice> tommorris articles on museums are supprisingly hard to write
[16:36] <SpeakFree> Museums are often more worried at ppl posting high res images online as it might cut into their merchandising / poster selling.
[16:37] <geniice> tommorris I've tried with the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Navy_Submarine_Museum but never made much progress
[16:37] <SpeakFree> Why buy an official poster if you can just print it at your local Kinkos?
[16:37] <geniice> Moe_Epsilon chemically it probably will. Light damages everything
[16:38] <geniice> SpeakFree because taking a good photo of a 2D object in low light is an absolute pain and paintings tend to be too reflective to allow flash
[16:38] <SpeakFree> Museums use special lighting to prevent damaging.
[16:38] <tommorris> of course, if there was some kind of high-quality public domain image was available online, then the "No photography" sign could be supplemented with "No photography, but you can download a ridiculously high-quality image on the Internet. Do that!"
[16:39] <geniice> on the other hand we have plently of pics from the  Royal Navy Submarine Museum  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Royal_Navy_Submarine_Museum
[16:39] <Moe_Epsilon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Visitors_and_Mona_Lisa.jpg
[16:40] <SpeakFree> Urg I forgot how busy it was in the room where Mona Lisa is held.
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[16:40] <geniice> tommorris ridiculously high-quality? As in right down to the micron level?
[16:40] <tommorris> That might be a bit OTT
[16:41] <tommorris> but the sort of thing you can get with high-end photo gear
[16:41] <Excirial> Hmm, seeing that crush there, i guess i'll be happy with a picture i can see from my chair :P
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[16:42] <SpeakFree> No photo policies are hard to enforce these days with nearly every mobile being equipped with a camera.
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[16:42] <tommorris> sure, but you don't need a no photo policy, you just need a "Look, you don't *need* a photo: there's a really fucking awesome one on the web. Use that" policy
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[16:43] <Moe_Epsilon> if you're right up on the barrier to the Mona Lisa and take a flash photo, they still confiscate your camera
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[16:43] <Moe_Epsilon> and thats why zoom was invented
[16:43] <SpeakFree> Lol people will still prefer their own crappy 2MP picture.
[16:43] <geniice> tommorris if that worked you wouldn't have all those people with camera phones out at NASA launches
[16:44] <geniice> seriously NASA have better photographers and cameras than you ever will do.
[16:44] <SpeakFree> making a photo for them is like stating "I was there, see!"
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[16:45] <SpeakFree> Ppl will still make their own photo's of the Eiffel tower even if millions of better images are available online.
[16:46] <Steven_Zhang> Ironholds: oh goody
[16:46] <geniice> people will still take photos of the atomium even though thats a copyright violation
[16:46] <Steven_Zhang> Siko and Phillipe have found an extension to get this technical issue out of the way
[16:46] <Steven_Zhang> you know the one i talked about, with onlyinclude etc
[16:47] <geniice> Maryana anway what did you take photos of in the british museum
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[16:47] <Maryana> the 7th-9th century burial urns that inspired sir thomas browne
[16:47] <Maryana> his article needs work.. and pictures
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[16:47] <geniice> SpeakFree the rosetta stone on the other hand is an absolute pain to photograph
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[16:48] <Maryana> other random stuff, too, but i'm sure those already exist in commons
[16:48] <SpeakFree> It would be better to rub it with a pencil on paper, I think that is how they made copies in the 19th century.
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[16:51] <Pesky> wheeeeee!
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[16:51] <geniice> SpeakFree http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass_rubbing needs pics
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[16:53] <Excirial> Iron is busy putting buckets on people's heads i think
[16:53] <Pesky> hehe!
[16:53] <Pesky> I shall molest him in absentia then ...
[16:54] <SpeakFree> I don't have pics the article says that it hasn't been allowed since the 1970s.
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[16:57] <Steven_Zhang> italicasation
[16:57] <Steven_Zhang> is that a word?
[16:57] <sonia> Pesky: in-absentia molestation is the best kind!
[16:57] <SpeakFree> German Wikipedia has pictures: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass_rubbing
[16:57] <Pesky> sonia - hur, hur , hur
[16:57] <SpeakFree> I'll copy the above one over.
[16:57] <Pesky> Steven_Zhang:  italicisation is
[16:58] <Steven_Zhang> ta
[16:58] <Moe_Epsilon> Italicize
[16:58] <Dragonfly6-7> italicization
[16:58] <Dragonfly6-7> mm, tilapia
[16:58] <SpeakFree> nah the second one is better.
[16:59] <Pesky> It's that US/UK thing again
[16:59] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[16:59] <Steven_Zhang> italicis/zation
[17:00] <Steven_Zhang> happy? :P
[17:00] <Pesky> Now that sounds like the title of a Hapy Hardcore thing
[17:00] <Pesky> +p
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[17:00] <geniice> example?
[17:00] <Pesky> Hixxy and Styles' Rush-Ins, etc.
[17:01] <Pesky> And VAGABOND World of Unknown (once you get into the orchestral bit - skip the firs 1m 25s
[17:02] <Moe_Epsilon> SpeakFree, that was a local image on german wikipedia
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[17:02] <SpeakFree> Urm if a picture is public domain in Germany is it also PD in the US?
[17:03] <sonia> not always.
[17:03] <SpeakFree> I want to use this pic in the Brass Rubbing article (from its German counterpart): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Roger_and_Agnes_Thornton_Brass.jpg
[17:04] <SpeakFree> It says it is PD under German, Austrian and Swiss law
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[17:04] <SpeakFree> Because the rubbing isn't an original work in its owna
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[17:05] <Moe_Epsilon> found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:German_public_domain_photographs
[17:05] <Moe_Epsilon> thought that doesn't help
[17:05] <Moe_Epsilon> -t
[17:06] <SpeakFree> Hmm it says "Aus der englischen Wikipedia kopiert (dort PD)." meaning
[17:06] <geniice> SpeakFree	template is for life+70
[17:06] <Steven_Zhang> I need to get off my high horse :P
[17:06] <geniice> english equiv is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-old-70
[17:06] <SpeakFree> copied from the English Wikipedia, there it is PC
[17:06] <SpeakFree> PD
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[17:06] <geniice> in any case given the age of most brases probably PD
[17:06] <SpeakFree> Well I'm going to be BOLD and move it to commons
[17:07] <geniice> Pesky that was ah interesting
[17:07] <SpeakFree> I wonder why it hasn't before, the image is on German WP for more than 5 years.
[17:07] <Moe_Epsilon> http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Help:Public_domain#Published_in_Germany
[17:08] <Fluttershy-EN> .
[17:08] <Pesky> geniice:  which one?
[17:08] <Crazynas> any Fluff|away or WilliamH_UK around?
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[17:08] <Pesky> geniice:  I also like some trance - but it has to be good
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[17:09] <Pesky> PPK Resurrection (the Trance Nation mix) is one of my favourites
[17:09] <Crazynas> WilliamH_UK: along with several by the same ip around it
[17:09] <geniice> SpeakFree flickr has a fair bit but not one actualy rubbing http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=brass+rubbing&l=commderiv&ct=0&mt=all&adv=1
[17:09] <Ironholds> I am done with buckets
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[17:09] <SpeakFree> well it's not on commons yet and not on English WP.
[17:09] <SpeakFree> so it must have been deleted on enwp
[17:10] <Steven_Zhang> Hi WilliamH_UK
[17:10] <geniice> Pesky I was refering to Vagabond - World of Unknown could notbe much less metal
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[17:10] <Pesky> Were you hearing the full-orchestral version?
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[17:10] <geniice> Pesky err no
[17:10] <Pesky> Apparently that was done with live orchestra, who absolutely loved doing it
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[17:11] <Pesky> Hang on a mo - I'll find the best mix
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[17:11] <Demiurge1000> He is not actually 12, but still, what is this? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ATimotheus_Canens&action=historysubmit&diff=462007508&oldid=461989204
[17:12] <geniice> Steven_Zhang eh we recently hit the issue that prince philip is not a reliable source
[17:12] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[17:12] <Steven_Zhang> hes off his rocker :P
[17:12] <Ironholds> geniice: only recently?
[17:12] <Ironholds> I thought we'd established this, say, when he decided to start BANGING THE QUEEN
[17:12] <geniice> Ironholds	see [[talk:Wales]]
[17:12] <Queen> Nty
[17:12] <Ironholds> a woman who has never launched a thousand ships
[17:12] <Steven_Zhang> Ironholds: Apparently http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Activity_bot_for_strategy_proposals,_task_forces <- that may work instead of the <onlyinclude> idea
[17:13] <Steven_Zhang> phillipe thought of it.
[17:13] <geniice> Ironholds eh still she's launched quite a few. thats more millihelen than most women
[17:13] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: ahh
[17:13] <Ironholds> philippe things of many things
[17:13] <Ironholds> *thinks
[17:14] <Ironholds> some of them are good ideas, others involve me
[17:14] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[17:15] <Pesky> geniice:   my favourite version has gone!  this isn't a bad mix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuatzXKjnrY
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[17:16] <Pesky> You should hear it straight of vinyl, through really good quality speakers
[17:16] <Pesky> but ignore the first 1m 24s - only good for dancing too
[17:16] <Pesky> after that, it's good for listening to!
[17:17] <Steven_Zhang> hi pesk
[17:17] <Steven_Zhang> y
[17:17] <geniice> I do currently have a record player even if its underneath a pile of other stuff
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[17:19] <Excirial> Iron - how did your buckets and kettles work out? :P
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[17:24] <Ironholds> Excirial: I gave up and started stabbing trolls instead
[17:24] <Ironholds> then I fell of something near Labyrinthine or whatnot and went splat
[17:24] <Ironholds> (them trolls are really difficult to kill)
[17:24] <Pesky> geniice:  most people are shocked at the idea that grannies actually like that stuff!
[17:24] <Excirial> Fireballs!
[17:24] <Excirial> Especially with the perk that makes em flinch. :P
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[17:25] <Ironholds> ahh. I use a dwarven sword
[17:25] <geniice> Pesky it's hardly black metal
[17:25] <Ironholds> toned up to "exceptional"
[17:25] <Pesky> It's Happy Hardcore :D
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[17:25] <geniice> Excirial is firballs your solution to everything
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[17:25] <Ironholds> what, like..Henry Rollins on crack?
[17:26] <Ironholds> or is happy hardcore something else
[17:26] <Excirial>  I still have 100 Hp, playing on expect. I rarely die due to *Drumbeat* fireballs!
[17:26] <Pesky> Happy Hardcore is dance music - stong beaty, music should be (but often isn't) genuinely musical
[17:26] <pticochon> hi
[17:26] <pticochon> to all
[17:26] <geniice> Pesky yes which is is rather less  surprising than if you were into grindcore
[17:26] <Pesky> Should be inspirational - should make you want to dance
[17:26] <pticochon> i love grindcore
[17:26] <Excirial> Geni - Of course, ironing clothes, weeding the garden, making toast... what else does man need for that? ;)
[17:27] <WilliamH_UK> a woman
[17:27] <pticochon> anal cunt anyone?
�06[17:27] * WilliamH_UK runs
[17:27] <Pesky> ew
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[17:27] <Excirial> ^^
[17:27] <Excirial> (Be glad your target audience most likely doesn't have fireballs william)
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[17:27] <pticochon> william
[17:27] <pticochon> are you british
[17:28] <geniice> pticochon I don't think grindcore has much of an audience in this channel
[17:28] <WilliamH_UK> yes I am
[17:28] <pticochon> why not geniice
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[17:29] <pticochon> are english-speaking wikipedians into JB
[17:29] <pticochon> then
[17:29] <pticochon> or wat
[17:29] <geniice> because even Napalm Death aren't that listanable
[17:29] <pticochon> listenable you mean
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�06[17:30] * sonia pounces Fluffernutter
[17:30] <Fluffernutter> sonia!
[17:30] <pticochon> hi fluff
[17:30] <sonia> Fluffernutter! :)
[17:30] <Ironholds> geniice: take that back
[17:30] <pticochon> sonia it's MY fluffernutter
[17:30] <sonia> pticochon: no, we're married
[17:31] <sonia> so she's defos not yours
[17:31] <Ironholds> Pesky: I prefer actual hardcore
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[17:31] <Fluffernutter> wait, who's married?
[17:31] <Ironholds> Fugazi, the Minutemen, Minor Threat, Black Flag
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[17:31] <Pesky> hur, hur, hur
[17:31] <sonia> Fluffernutter: you to me
[17:31] <pticochon> Fluffernutter, you didn't tell me you had a wife
[17:31] <Pesky> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqO3t9rp0U8&feature=related
[17:31] <pticochon> and probably kids
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[17:31] <Pesky> That one's quite nivcwe
�06[17:31] * Fluffernutter didn't know she had a wife, either
[17:32] <geniice> Ironholds Napalm Death's best known song is "You Suffer" lasting a total of a second or so
[17:32] <Fluffernutter> just the harem
[17:32] <Ironholds> geniice: I know. I have listened to ND :P
�06[17:32] * Panyd is your wife, surely?
[17:32] <Fluffernutter> no, you'r concubine #3
[17:32] <sonia> can I be the mistress then?
[17:32] <geniice> Ironholds my definition of listenable requires things to be more than 1 second long
[17:33] <Ironholds> geniice: that's what she said
[17:33] <Fluffernutter> sonia is cocubine #2
[17:33] <Steven_Zhang> I'm married :P
[17:33] <Dragonfly6-7> to a human?
[17:33] <sonia> Fluffernutter: is #1 Dagny?
[17:33] <Ironholds> Peter-C is the wife. He's more of a pussy than Fluffernutter, and so is perfectly qualified
[17:33] <Steven_Zhang> Yes, to a human :P
[17:33] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: with actual eyeballs?
[17:33] <Dragonfly6-7> Ironholds - I'm pretty sure Peter-C is still underage.
[17:33] <Steven_Zhang> yes...
[17:33] <Ironholds> Dragonfly6-7: so? jesus, his parents would be glad to emancipate him just to get rid of him
[17:33] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: that work? :P
[17:34] <Steven_Zhang> eh? :P
[17:34] <Ironholds> "you mean there's a way of making him someone else's problem? HOW"
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[17:34] <Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: we have verified that she has eyeballs. Do they work? :p
[17:34] <Steven_Zhang> Yes :P
[17:34] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[17:34] <Steven_Zhang> >_>
[17:34] <Dragonfly6-7> Ironholds - it's an immigration scam.
[17:35] <Ironholds> Dragonfly6-7: oh, cool! That's why I'm getting married to- I mean, we're very happy together
[17:35] <Dragonfly6-7> Ironholds - only problem is, she thinks he has American citizenship
[17:35] <Dragonfly6-7> Ironholds - she hasn't figured out why they haven't left Australia yet
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[17:35] <Ironholds> Dragonfly6-7: ahhh
[17:35] <Ironholds> (also, lol)
[17:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dragonfly6-7 I suspect jimbo is underaged actually
[17:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the beard is a fake
[17:40] <Fluffernutter> sonia, yes, #1 is dagny. And then there are my husbands.
[17:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter husbands?
[17:40] <Excirial>  (Note the S)
[17:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I thought you were single :(
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[17:40] <sonia> ToAruShiroiNeko: she has a harem
[17:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> reverse harem
[17:41] <sonia> ToAruShiroiNeko: I'm proudly concubine #2
[17:41] <Dragonfly6-7> of greyhounds
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[17:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> girl harem = lesbianism IMHO
[17:41] <sonia> anything wrong with "lesbianism"?
[17:42] <Dragonfly6-7> too many letters to fit in the crossword grid
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�06[17:42] * sonia noms
�06[17:42] * sonia offers derp waffles.
[17:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sonia no but we need a term for lesbian haerms
�08[17:42] <derp> Fluffernutter, what bout me? what number in your harem am i
�08[17:43] * derp noms
[17:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> derp you are the chief petty officer of the harem
�08[17:43] <derp> <3
[17:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you are petty derp
�08[17:43] <derp> the standard gay guy%
[17:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no
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[17:44] <dharmaEUC> :ی
[17:44] <dharmaEUC> :D
[17:44] <dharmaEUC> :d
[17:44] <dharmaEUC> :)
[17:44] <dharmaEUC> ajaba
[17:44] <Fluffernutter> ...
[17:44] <dharmaEUC> :)
[17:44] <dharmaEUC> t(>.<t)
[17:44] <Prodego> dharmaEUC: don't please
[17:45] <dharmaEUC> :/
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[17:45] <dharmaEUC> CPU:intel(r) celeron(r)   2.80ghz Memory:503MB In-use:87% Display:1024X768 Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) Uptime:02:01:26:14 client:ThrashIRC
[17:46] <dharmaEUC> hmmm
[17:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> XP SP2?
[17:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> not even M$ supports that
[17:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> OLD
�06[17:46] * sonia blinks
�06[17:46] * sonia gives dharmaEUC SP3
[17:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> probably a botnet machine
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[17:47] <Pesky> I love the video on this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zPYHIHFqtg&feature=related
[17:47] <Prodego> 503 MB with a 2.8 GHz processor?
[17:47] <Prodego> interesting
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[17:49] <Pilif12p> Prodego: "server" has a 3.0 GHz processor and 512 mb
[17:49] <Jeff_G> 11MB of rootkit :)
[17:49] <Prodego> not with windows xp SP 2 it doesn't :)
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[17:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> guys, get sp3
[17:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> be wise, dont let your computer be taken over by botnets
[17:50] <Fluffernutter> always good advice
[17:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> seriously
[17:51] <Pilif12p> or you know use linux
[17:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> botnets creep me out
[17:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you think botnets dont spread on linux?
[17:51] <Pilif12p> not as easily
[17:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no pretty easily
[17:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its just not as common as others becuase linux botnets are far more sophisticated
[17:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they are difficult to detect
[17:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> doesnt mean they arent there
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[17:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it takes 100 computers with reasonable internet link to do a ddos attack
[17:52] <Excirial> Though in general people using Linux tend to know a tad more then the average windows user
[17:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Excirial indeed but as far as he is looking its just an update
[17:53] <pticochon> "then the average windows user"
[17:53] <Pilif12p> there are a lot of intentional botnets
[17:53] <Pilif12p> anonymous, for example, and their LOIC
[17:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it doesnt matter if you are a security expert. if you open an office document you would get duqu without knowing.
[17:54] <Excirial> Mwah, not to worried about it to be honest.
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[17:54] <BenjicMouse> Is this a fake article? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Side_of_the_Rainbow
[17:54] <BenjicMouse> I just watched that video and they don't synch in any way at all.
[17:55] <Excirial>  Even IF it manages to hide a rootkit on my PC, traffic still had to pass trough the router.
[17:55] <Dragonfly6-7> BenjicMouse - no. It's a known phenomenon.
[17:55] <Dragonfly6-7> if you start the album at exactly the right moment, there are a bunch of nifty coincidences
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[17:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Excirial umm these guys code virus to infltrate nuclear encrichment facilities to sabotage
[17:56] <DarkoNeko> zzz =_=
[17:56] <BenjicMouse> I couldn't see any more relation between the "music" and the video than the average retarded Youtube clip with irrelevant music on top of it.
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[17:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they hack hardware
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[17:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> your router would be where they install the rootkit >:D
[17:57] <Excirial> Well, i don't know about you, but i don't run a nuclear installation from my house? :P
[17:57] <Dragonfly6-7> BenjicMouse - read the article.
[17:57] <Pilif12p> I almost bought a hardware firewall last year.
[17:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no, but it helps to use your computer as a means to engage in criminal activity
[17:57] <Dragonfly6-7> "Band members and others involved in the making of the album state that any relationship between the two works of art is merely a coincidence"
[17:57] <Excirial> Yes, but then we have the time / effort / reward question.
[17:57] <Dragonfly6-7> 'Dark Side of the Moon audio engineer Alan Parsons in 2003 dismissed the supposed effect:"
[17:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Excirial I just feel people should take botnets seriously
[17:58] <Dragonfly6-7> "if you play any record with the sound turned down on the TV, you will find things that work"
[17:58] <Excirial> There are millions of worse-defended PC's then mine. Why work to get mine, if you can get a boatload of others with way less effort. :P
[17:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> botnets are serious biznis
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[17:58] <Excirial> ToAru - No need to tell me, i wrote half the article's on botnets on the wiki :P
[17:58] <Prodego> the other half was written by Excirial's botnet
[17:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Excirial well, with duqu for instance firewalls were essentially useless
[17:58] <Ironholds> Excirial: and an automated tool wrote the re-DAMN
[17:58] <geniice> Excirial because those millions have allready been rooted to death
[17:59] <Ironholds> Prodego: my joke, you stole it :(
[17:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Prodego I thought Excirial was a botne
[17:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> t
[17:59] <Excirial> Ping, Ping, Ping, Ping Oo
[17:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds too slow
[17:59] <Ironholds> ToAruShiroiNeko: in so many ways
[17:59] <sonia> "In 2011, Glenn Beck told the story of the death of Jesus synchronized to The Dark Side of the Moon, in particular the portion encompassing "Breathe" through "The Great Gig in the Sky." This was broadcast on his radio talk show, The Glenn Beck Program, immediately prior to Easter Sunday that year."
[17:59] <sonia> huh
[17:59] <Ironholds> on the subject of being slow,m y brain is operating at roughly the speed of treacle up a hill
[17:59] <SpeakFree> Apparently not: http://www.google.nl/search?q=Dark+Side+of+the+Rainbow&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US
[17:59] <Ironholds> I shall sleep
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�06[18:00] * Excirial disables the ping sound that plays when people say "Excirial"
[18:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds why so sleep?
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[18:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Excirial why would you have such a feature?
[18:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I make my computer play the british national anthem instead
[18:01] <Steven_Zhang> aw
[18:01] <Excirial> I guess that would sound like the echo from hell, with those 4 pings
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[18:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Excirial not really
[18:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I programmed it to queue
[18:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> also if I get 3 pings it plays the russian national anthem
[18:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Excirial I am obviously joking
[18:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> who would want to play naitonal anthems -_-
[18:04] <Excirial> You, obviously. Just admit your eccentric. :P
[18:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avm7x0zj6nE
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[18:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I make it play that instead
[18:05] <Excirial> Your lying that you are lying - just admit!
[18:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mmm
[18:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no I sit
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[18:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sitting neko
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[18:06] <BarkingFish> ToAruShiroiNeko: why would you want your PC to play the British national anthem??
[18:06] <Excirial> Hmm, as for that, probally time to get some sleep... *Notices the clock*
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[18:06] <BarkingFish> There are much better ones than a national anthem that sounds like a funeral dirge.
[18:06] <Excirial> Another grand total of 6 hours... I will certainly be completely refreshed by morning... >_>
[18:07] <Excirial> Good night! ;)
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[18:07] <BarkingFish> Australia's. Bright and cheery. New Zealand. Vibrant, well written and beautiful to listen to. Britain. Slow, tired, and in desperate need of an upgrade.
[18:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish I make it play http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avm7x0zj6nE instead
[18:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish british national anthem needs vocaloid
[18:08] <BarkingFish> Hell, that's better than God save the (insert title of reigning monarch here)
[18:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> vocaloid as the princess of... hmm
[18:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> which part of UK would the vocaloid be the princess of?
[18:09] <Pesky> everybody dance ….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZxEJuXT0O4
[18:10] <BarkingFish> The only national anthem on earth, which is worse than God save the Queen - I'm ashamed to admit - is the Icelandic one. It's slow, very slow, nay - practically stationary, and sounds terrible.
[18:10] <BarkingFish> It's also a bitch to sing
[18:10] <BarkingFish> and - it's rather long, too
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[18:12] <BarkingFish> ToAruShiroiNeko: this is what I'm talking about... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM0WyGNoang
[18:12] <BarkingFish> to sing the whole thing takes over two full minutes
[18:13] <SpeakFree> It's not as long as the full version of the Dutch anthem, which gladly isn't performed often
[18:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm
[18:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdSCU-hlpKk
[18:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> fail because it isnt in japanese.
[18:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> wait japan was a member of the axis
[18:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I fail
[18:14] <WilliamH_UK> decent version of UK anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwziS2aE6Ww
[18:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WilliamH_UK UK national anthem needs vocaloid
[18:15] <BarkingFish> best rendition of any national anthem anywhere - God defend new zealand, performed in the style of Brian May (Queen's guitarist)
[18:15] <BarkingFish> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY4M2QV4H2E
[18:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMFIv8vOAwc
[18:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it exists!?
[18:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it would be awkward if UK has a king without a queen in the future IMHO
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[18:17] <geniice> not really
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[18:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyOlV7NOWgY
[18:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> YES!
[18:18] <SpeakFree> It is sang as God Save the King if the UK has a king regnant
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[18:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> what if the new monarch is a hermemphrodite?
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[18:19] <geniice> ToAruShiroiNeko let me know if you find a version of the ww2 german antham like that
[18:19] <SpeakFree> actually king regnant is wrong, a king always rules.
[18:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> geniice with miku?
[18:19] <BarkingFish> Another good version - a vocaloid ( i think ) singing La Marseillaise :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jieEcGxpZiM
[18:19] <geniice> ToAruShiroiNeko	probably
[18:19] <SpeakFree> only a queen can just be the spouse of a king not the other way around.
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[18:19] <SpeakFree> Hence the UK doesn't have a King Phillip
[18:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> geniice closest I got is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR4WRkYgCxU
[18:20] <BarkingFish> SpeakFree: no, the reason Philip isn't king is because he's not British, as far as I remember.
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[18:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SpeakFree king always rules but queens last longer
[18:20] <BarkingFish> if my memory doesn't fail me, Philip is Greek
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[18:21] <geniice> hmm "miku Horst Wessel Lied" doesn't produce anything either
[18:21] <SpeakFree> Well in her in the Netherlands we have the same rule as in the UK, Prince Claus was the husband of Queen Beatrix and Prince Bernhard was the spouse of Queen Juliana.
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[18:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> be ver weary when using lied and miqu together
[18:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> *miku
[18:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you will get hentai probably -_-
[18:22] <geniice> BarkingFish no he's not king because there are peaple ahead of him in the line to the throne
[18:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SpeakFree why is the netherlands a kingdom again?
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[18:22] <SpeakFree> The Dutch constitution states that the King is the Head of State.
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[18:22] <SpeakFree> So that's why the spouse of a Queen can never be a King.
[18:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he can give the state the head
[18:22] <andkore> anyone know how to make wikiEd word wrap?
[18:22] <SpeakFree> I s'pose the same applies in the UK
[18:22] <Pesky> geniice:  do you like this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr9Q6G49T5I&feature=related
[18:22] <SpeakFree> Prince Albert also was the spouse of Queen Victoria.
[18:23] <BarkingFish> geniice: how could there be?  This is what I don't understand - in order for the children to come along, philip and her maj musta got it on, so surely he was top dog before any of them got a look in?
[18:23] <Pesky> Symphony pof Strings mix of Take Me Away
[18:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SpeakFree albert of belgium?
[18:23] <SigmaWP> Kill.
[18:23] <SpeakFree> well he was related to the current king Albert of Belgium.
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[18:23] <Betacommand> is anyome else having issues loading http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trang_Ch%C3%ADnh ?
[18:24] <BarkingFish> how could anyone be ahead of Philip in line to the throne, when he was right there before any of them?
[18:24] <geniice> BarkingFish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_succession_to_the_British_throne philip is somewhere around 200 I think
[18:24] <BarkingFish> Betacommand: works here
[18:24] <Moe_Epsilon> Betacommand: nope
[18:24] <BarkingFish> what kind of issues are you having?
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[18:24] <Betacommand> it loads for  about 0.5 seconds and then goes to a blank page
[18:24] <SpeakFree> The house of Windsor was known as the House of Saxe Coburg Gotha before WW1 and the House of Saxe Coburg Gotha is currently the ruling house of Belgium.
[18:25] <BarkingFish> which browser, Betacommand?
[18:25] <SpeakFree> The House of Windsor is the royal house of the Commonwealth realms. It was founded by King George V by royal proclamation on the 17 July 1917, when he changed the name of his family from the German Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to the English Windsor, due to the anti-German sentiment in the United Kingdom during World War I.
[18:25] <Betacommand> BarkingFish: FF 3.6.26
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[18:26] <BarkingFish> It takes about 2 seconds to load here, and i get presented with Jimbo's smiling face, and this underneath: "Chào mừng bạn đến với bách khoa toàn thư mở Wikipedia tiếng Việt!"
[18:26] <Pesky> SpeakFree - I think that something around 10 of Queen Victoria's children and grtandchildren became corwned
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[18:26] <BarkingFish> Betacommand: you're a long way back aren't you?
[18:26] <geniice> BarkingFish actualy he around 491st
[18:26] <BarkingFish> I'm sitting here on FF8
[18:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> geniice are you in the line of succession?
[18:26] <geniice> no
[18:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> are you 9001st?
[18:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> aw
[18:27] <geniice> I'm not decended from Electress Sophia of Hanover
[18:27] <Betacommand> BarkingFish: Im waiting for a stable release, they jumped from 4.0 to 8 or 9 in like a month
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[18:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko> geniice maybe an illegitemate link exists?
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[18:27] <BarkingFish> Betacommand: go to about:blank - clear all your cookies, cache, history, etc - and try to load the page again
[18:27] <SpeakFree> @ToAruShiroiNeko the Netherlands is probably unique in having become a kingdom after first being a republic apart from Cambodia I think.
[18:27] <geniice> ToAruShiroiNeko	 doesn't count
[18:27] <BarkingFish> if it persists, speak to #wikimedia-tech, maybe it's something your end
[18:27] <Betacommand> BarkingFish: Im not the only one
[18:27] <Pesky> G'night everyone; hope you enjoyed the rave ...
[18:27] <geniice> SpeakFree UK was a republic breathly
[18:28] <BarkingFish> Betacommand: who else is suffering this?
[18:28] <Betacommand> BarkingFish: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Can_an_interwiki_link_take_users_somewhere_else.3F
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[18:28] <Qcoder00> BarkingFish:  What's your QRK on the net this evening?
[18:28] <geniice> Pesky err raves are kinda illegal around here
[18:28] <BarkingFish> ok Betacommand - i'll take a look
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[18:28] <geniice> 	Pesky Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994
[18:28] <BarkingFish> Qcoder00: 5 all the way,
[18:28] <BarkingFish> no interference
[18:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the netherlands should be invaded by belgium and their shops be invaded by chinese made belgian chocolates
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[18:29] <SpeakFree> Well actually Leopold III considered invading the Netherlands in the 19th century and he might have succeeded.
[18:29] <Steven_Zhang> MzMcBride, you around?
[18:29] <Steven_Zhang> or Myra
[18:29] <Steven_Zhang> same thing :P
[18:29] <SpeakFree> At least we'd have better beer then. :P
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[18:30] <PiRSquared17> Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Advantages_of_internet
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[18:30] <Sigma_Of_Fury> Down with the damned new pages!!!!
[18:30] <geniice> this is what legal rave music sounds like in the UK
[18:30] <geniice> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6eL62Tv9cQ
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[18:31] <Steven_Zhang> has anyone seen Myra?
[18:31] <Pilif12p> did he died?
[18:32] <Qcoder00> Geniice: I prefer spacesynth myself
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[18:32] <geniice> SpeakFree Leopold II seems more likely. In any case britian would have had words we had already fallen out with him over the congo
[18:33] <SpeakFree> correct geniice made a typo
[18:33] <BarkingFish> Betacommand: i've commented there. Bạo loạn Stonewall loads perfectly well for me on vi.wp
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[18:34] <SpeakFree> Wasn't England an ally of Belgium?
[18:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SpeakFree depends
[18:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Belgium was invaded by germans (twice) but also by spain
[18:35] <geniice> SpeakFree nominally yes but  the butcher of the congo invading the Netherlands? we would certianly have shelled the more acessable bots
[18:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it was also invaded (for liberation) by the british, french and americans (twice)
[18:35] <geniice> bits
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[18:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> geniice hmm
[18:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> belgians could be considered bots
[18:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> one of duqu's c&c servers was in belgium
[18:35] <SpeakFree> The Treaty of London (which was directed against the Dutch taking military action against Belgium after Belgium seceeded in 1839) was the direct cause of England's entry in WWI to save the Belgians from German invasion IIRC.
[18:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SpeakFree that may be the excuse but the british entered ww1 just so they can get moar fish n' chips IMHO
[18:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> and lets be honest no one can save belgians
[18:37] <SpeakFree> They can't even save them from themselves :P
[18:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yes
[18:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they have a government atm?
[18:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I think not
[18:37] <SpeakFree> They are now 527 days without a national government.
[18:37] <SpeakFree> Which is a Guinness World Record
[18:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SpeakFree that said their b'cracy is still dismal
[18:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the police invited me to the police station this week
[18:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so I can sign papers verifying my date of birth
[18:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WTF
[18:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the police?
[18:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Boy, even the police was suprised
[18:38] <SpeakFree> Pffrt I was harrassed by a Belgian policewoman for speaking Dutch in Brussels.
[18:38] <SpeakFree> There language politics are byzantine.
[18:39] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SpeakFree brussels is a bi-lingual commune
[18:39] <mareklug> just curious -- what makes an article title cursive?  Like here: [[50 Words for Snow]]
[18:39] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you should have sued her ass
[18:39] <SpeakFree> I was glad to get away as I had to catch a flight urgently.
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[18:39] <ToAruShiroiNeko> why would you want to fly over belgium??
[18:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> what is there to see?
[18:40] <SpeakFree> Brussels is officially bilingual but in practice that doesn't account for much.
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[18:40] <Moe_Epsilon> mareklug: you mean italicized?
[18:40] <SpeakFree> From Belgium
[18:40] <mareklug> Moe_Epsilon:  jes
[18:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> even the European Commision walls picture belgium as a farmland
[18:40] <SpeakFree> There were cheaper flights from Zaventem (Brussels Airport) to Greece than from Schiphol.
[18:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> see thats the mistake there
[18:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> flying to greece
[18:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you crashed their economy!
[18:40] <SpeakFree> LOL
[18:41] <SpeakFree> Actually I managed to keep it from crashing for maybe 10 seconds with my contributions to their economy.
[18:42] <mareklug> Moe_Epsilon:  I bet it's something attached to the code of the info box..
[18:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SpeakFree you spent a million euros?
[18:42] <SpeakFree> LOL
[18:42] <Moe_Epsilon> I believe its http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Italic_title
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[18:42] <Moe_Epsilon> i could be wrong
[18:43] <PiRSquared17> bondolo	hello, i have been editing a lot of marine species articles lately and found a template problem i don't (yet) know how to correct. the problem is with http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WRMS. the second url ends up malformed in the resulting html and I am not sure why.
[18:44] <bondolo> it should be http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxlist&rComp==&tRank=220&vOnly=yes&marine=no&pid=1130
[18:44] <bondolo> rather than http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxlist&rComp==&tRank=220&vOnly=yes&marine=no&pid=
[18:44] <bondolo> (no value for pid)
[18:44] <PiRSquared17> oh
[18:44] <PiRSquared17> &marine=no&pid={{{1}}}
[18:45] <bondolo> i guess the encoding isn't strange .
[18:45] <mareklug> Moe_Epsilon:  you are right, I think.  It's called from the infobox template
[18:45] <PiRSquared17> I know
[18:45] <PiRSquared17> Remove leading whitespace
[18:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> although I am joking, I know the situation in greece is beyond terible
[18:46] <bondolo> is there a way to do that in the parameter usage?
[18:46] <Moe_Epsilon> mareklug: probably, should look in the infobox under the title parameter, that is the likely suspect
[18:46] <PiRSquared17> hmm
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[18:46] <bondolo> how does {{{1}}} differ from {{{1|}} ?
[18:46] <SpeakFree> I know and it will be worse when other countries fall the same way.
[18:46] <SpeakFree> Belgium included.
[18:46] <PiRSquared17> bondolo: the latter is unmatched
[18:46] <Qcoder00> Yeah, but at least they won't shoot the bankers
[18:47] <bondolo> er, that's my mistake, correct in the template source.
[18:47] <PiRSquared17> {{{ = +3 1|}} = -2
[18:47] <SpeakFree> The Netherlands has one of the most soundest economies in Europe so we probably will have to foot the bill together with the Germans. :/
[18:47] <WilliamH_UK> silly Euro
[18:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> bondolo {{{1}}} is {{{1}}} while {{{1|}} is nothing if a parameter is not passed
[18:47] <WilliamH_UK> we told you it was a crap idea
[18:47] <SpeakFree> Yeah
[18:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WilliamH_UK euro is a good idea
[18:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> greece a part of it is a bad idea
[18:48] <SpeakFree> Well it's not as if we were asked.
[18:48] <WilliamH_UK> but governments that can't keep their books isn;t
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[18:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> in fact why is greece even an EU member :/
[18:48] <PiRSquared17> bondolo: you want to remove leading spaces
[18:48] <SpeakFree> We rejected the European Constitution in a referendum and then the shoved it down our throats by renaming it the Lissabon Treaty.
[18:49] <bondolo> PirSquared17 : i think that's correct, yes.
[18:49] <SpeakFree> I've red the text of both the Constitution proposal and the Lissabon Treaty, the text is largely the same.
[18:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SpeakFree umm what did you expect?
[18:49] <SpeakFree> you could do a diff and not find many changes.
[18:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SpeakFree it is free text
[18:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you CAN do it
[18:50] <tommorris> SpeakFree: feel free to vote for a party that represents your views.
[18:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> just put both on wikisource
[18:50] <bondolo> i am not sure why the first url works better or what {{#if:x|{{{1}}}}} accomplishes yet.
[18:50] <SpeakFree> Well it doesn't matter much who you vote for they're pretty much interchangable.
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[18:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> not true
[18:51] <SpeakFree> I'm not enthusiast about elections anymore except for local elections.
[18:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SpeakFree I am living in belgium
[18:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> we dont have elections that anyone cares about
[18:51] <tommorris> SpeakFree: well, in Britain, people have been offered the chance to vote for UKIP for however many years. Evidently, they have chosen to not take up that opportunity.
[18:52] <PiRSquared17> bondolo: #mediawiki -- sorry for the moving around
[18:52] <WilliamH_UK> because they think it's wasted vote
[18:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> elections should be outlawed to save money
[18:52] <tommorris> so when they talk about how Europe has been "forced down their throats" or whatever, I just say "well, why didn't you vote for UKIP?"
�06[18:52] * tommorris actually doesn't care about the EU.
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[18:52] <tommorris> The idea that the EU is somehow better or worse than my national government or local government is laughable.
[18:52] <SpeakFree> You are not used to coalition government so people tend to vote for the big parties I guess.
[18:53] <WilliamH_UK> I cant wait for next general election
[18:53] <bep> me neither WilliamH_UK
[18:53] <WilliamH_UK> just out of pure curiosity for Nick Clegg
[18:53] <SpeakFree> same as in the US, a third party can only undermine one of the big parties.
[18:53] <WilliamH_UK> he has torpedoed his political career
[18:53] <WilliamH_UK> he has completely illegitimised the lib dems as a political party
[18:53] <SpeakFree> Ralph Nader got Bush elected in 2000.
[18:53] <tommorris> The "evil bureaucrats in Brussels" are pretty much interchangeable with the evil bureaucrats in Westminster or in the county and district
[18:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tommorris the EU parliment is a waste of time
[18:53] <Moe_Epsilon> my only neutral viewpoint on elections is that societies that have had them, haven't existed historically as long as ones without them (sorry Wikipedia)
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[18:54] <MuZemike> That was a front to vote for Al Gore
[18:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the comission has good food at least
[18:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Al Gore needs more climate change
[18:54] <MuZemike> Better watch it - he might kick you off his Internets.
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[18:54] <SpeakFree> And Ross Perot got Clinton elected in 1992 because many Republicans voted for him instead.
[18:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> MuZemike I AM the internet
[18:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> or was it I AM the government?
[18:55] <tommorris> Hmm. interesting: I wonder what'll happen next US election
[18:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tommorris obama will win with landslide
[18:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he offers hope and change
[18:55] <tommorris> Romney becomes Republican candidate, then some Tea Party fruitcake stands as a third party, and Obama wins as a result
[18:56] <SpeakFree> I blame Al Gore for the cold winters and rainy summers we experienced since he made Inconvenient Truth. :P
[18:56] <MuZemike> Given that the GOP is so heavily fragmented right now in leadership, I don't think they stand much a chance.
[18:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I blame Al Gore for the Duqu virus
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[18:56] <SpeakFree> Well I'm not that enthusiast with Obama as in 2008.
[18:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am just as enthusiastic
[18:57] <Moe_Epsilon> tommorris: it will be closer than the first one, and a republican might even win. Every year they change how many electoral votes (votes that matter) a state in the U.S. has, and more electoral votes were taken away from democratic states and republican states got more
[18:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> back in 2008 I wanst enthusiastic at all mind you
[18:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I realised he was just another sleezy polition
[18:57] <tommorris> I can see progressives being less enthusiastic for Obama, but I don't see them lining up for a Nader or whatever.
[18:57] <SpeakFree> He didn't get many things changed.
[18:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> merely hawaian born kenyan :p
[18:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he did get my undies changed
[18:58] <MuZemike> I would have been more optimistic, but then I need to remember the "super-committee".
[18:58] <SpeakFree> Well many people ignore his mistakes because he is black, especially here in Europe.
[18:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> thats progress!
[18:58] <SpeakFree> if he had been white he would have gotten much more flak than he has received.
[18:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Europe is too busy with neo-nazis and monetary issues
[18:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Obama is half white.
[18:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> half white, half black, half kenyan and half hawaian
[18:59] <Dragonfly6-7> [[Anne McCaffrey]] has died.
[18:59] <sonia> tha'ts a lot of halves
[18:59] <sonia> Dragonfly6-7: yes :(
[18:59] <Sigma_Of_Fury> Oh no
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[18:59] <SpeakFree> Yeah but according to the one drop rule he is black (according to both the US black community and redneck republicans).
[18:59] <tommorris> ToAruShiroiNeko: Obama is 2/1 human then.
[18:59] <Jeske_Merensky> TASN) As far as these GOP far-left pinheads are concerned, mulatto may as well be "close your eyes in dark woods and disappear" black.
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[19:00] <Jeske_Merensky> MuZemike) Author
[19:00] <tommorris> "GOP far-left pinheads"?
[19:00] <SpeakFree> Ask any black person and they will say he is black and not mention his white background.
[19:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tommorris human?
[19:00] <tommorris> Jeske_Merensky is channelling Bill O'Reilly.
[19:00] <Jeske_Merensky> tommorris) No, I mean far-left.
[19:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no obama is superman!
[19:00] <Moe_Epsilon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ElectoralCollege2012.svg <- Electoral votes gained and lost by U.S. state, which is telling
[19:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he is no human, he is from kyripton
[19:00] <Jeske_Merensky> Calling the KKK and neo-Nazi groups far-right is a stretch.
[19:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ?
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[19:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I was refering to neo-nazis in europe
[19:01] <SpeakFree> those are marginal attention seekers.
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[19:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> KKK are professional condom advertisement actors
[19:01] <Jeske_Merensky> SpeakFree) The neo-Nazi groups aren't.,
[19:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they practice, a lot.
[19:01] <SpeakFree> not a real threat
[19:01] <tommorris> Jeske_Merensky: still, far left? I'm pretty sure that if the KKK exterminated all the black people, they wouldn't suddenly find themselves supporting free healthcare and gay rights
[19:01] <WilliamH_UK> anyone read Tess of the d'Urbervilles?
[19:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> neo-nazi groups murder people SpeakFree
[19:02] <SpeakFree> Well depends over here in the Netherlands they are.
[19:02] <Qcoder00> Moe_Epsilon:  Well  is Obama visting Dallas  anytime soon?
[19:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they dont seek attention. they want to take over the world
[19:02] <MuZemike> I don't think the KKK are socialist in any sense.
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[19:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> KKK are professional condom advertisement actors - they practice, a lot.
[19:03] <Moe_Epsilon> Qcoder00: Obama, nor any democrat, would spend their time in Texas trying to pander to the audience of voters. They have already made up their minds there.
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[19:03] <tommorris> there are KKK types who are sort of vaguely lefty in other political beliefs, but they are kind of rare
[19:03] <MuZemike> Not all of Texas is Republican; politics is a little different in East Texas.
[19:03] <Steven_Zhang> Sigma_Of_Fury:
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[19:03] <Steven_Zhang> (There are 115 open discussion(s) in 6 day(s). Link to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2011 November 15.)
[19:04] <Sigma_Of_Fury> AAHH!
[19:04] <MuZemike> That's a lot of AFDs
[19:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I think obama should give a speach while wielding twin gatling guns in texas
[19:04] <Moe_Epsilon> ye haw
[19:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> obama should also arrive with a flying aircraft carrier and land it to the austin airport
[19:05] <Steven_Zhang> indeed it is.
[19:05] <SpeakFree> He would slam into the wall from the recoil
[19:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SpeakFree not really\
[19:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he would shoot downwards
[19:05] <tommorris> "During his Ku Klux Klan days Metzger held strictly extreme-right views but later came to see himself as more aligned with the left than the right, on the grounds that the right was too mired in conservatism and he identified with the far left's militant revolutionary stance. This shift coincided with his leaving the Klan to start his own group, White Aryan Resistance. Metzger is often described as a Third positionist because of his identif
[19:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> flying obama
[19:05] <tommorris> - http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Tom_Metzger
[19:05] <SpeakFree> LOL
[19:05] <tommorris> there we go, a white nationalist nutcase who also supports some left-wing shit
[19:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hoverbama?
[19:06] <tommorris> In Metzger-land, environmentalism is fine so long as you can use it as a stick to beat Jews with.
[19:06] <SpeakFree> Flybama
[19:06] <Moe_Epsilon> I'll vote for a hoverbama
[19:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> obama on wheels
[19:07] <SpeakFree> Tom Metzger only exists to give Louis Theroux airtime.
[19:07] <Demiurge1000> ToAruShiroiNeko: Did we mention submarine aircraft carriers recently enough?
[19:07] <SpeakFree> BTW what happened to Jerry Springer?
[19:07] <Demiurge1000> His hamster ate him.
[19:07] <PiRSquared17> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=NakedCalendars <-- COI?
[19:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> flying submarine aircraft carriers
[19:08] <Demiurge1000> Or is Jerry Springer female? I don't watch U.S. TV
[19:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> flying submarine aircraft carriers on wheels
[19:08] <Sigma_Of_Fury> PiRSquared17: IKR
[19:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> fsacow
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[19:08] <PiRSquared17> IKR?
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�08[19:09] <Maury> You are NOT the father, Sigma_Of_Fury.
[19:09] <PiRSquared17> IKR?
[19:10] <PiRSquared17> What?
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[19:10] <SpeakFree> Is Naked Calendars a company?
[19:11] <Steven_Zhang> too many AFds
[19:12] <bep> oh cool
[19:12] <bep> i just got modded on wikipedia
[19:13] <PiRSquared17> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=RSS_Director looks like a COI
[19:13] <Moe_Epsilon> probably
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[19:16] <tommorris> hey Maryana
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[19:16] <Maryana> hi tommorris
�06[19:18] * tommorris should probably go to sleep given that he needs to get up early, go to a seminar and provide useful feedback on someone's paper
[19:19] <Maryana> yeah… i dunno why i'm still awake
[19:19] <Maryana> copyediting time :-p
[19:19] <Maryana> better than counting sheep
[19:19] <BarkingFish> Maryana: because you haven't gone to sleep yet? :P
[19:19] <Maryana> barkingfish: you and your silly logic!
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[19:20] <BarkingFish> logic???
[19:20] <BarkingFish> You think I'm logical?
�06[19:20] * BarkingFish shakes his head in disbelief.
[19:20] <tommorris> You seem to be applying logic.
[19:20] <BarkingFish> I'm obviously not doing something right here :)
[19:21] <BarkingFish> Well if it's logic - i didn't recognize it
[19:21] <BarkingFish> "I dunno why I'm still awake" - because you haven't gone to sleep yet, to me, seems a perfectly legitimate response, logical or not
[19:21] <BarkingFish> if you haven't gone to sleep, you are still awake, no?
[19:22] <Fluff|away> wait, what is this logic shit
[19:22] <BarkingFish> that's what I want to know
[19:22] <Maryana> if p then q
[19:22] <tommorris> I was going for
[19:22] <tommorris> (P or not-P)
[19:22] <BarkingFish> if you're awake, it follows that you're not asleep.
[19:23] <PiRSquared17> p -> q
[19:23] <PiRSquared17> p
[19:23] <PiRSquared17> therefore, q
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[19:23] <Maryana> wait, which of those if constructions is false again? (it's been awhile since my symbolic logic class...)
[19:23] <PiRSquared17> ...
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[19:24] <Maryana> p -> q, ~p...
[19:24] <tommorris> Shall I confuse the issue and point out that there are vague predicates in play here and there is a distinctively Sorites-like problem with sleep and not-sleep
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[19:25] <SpeakFree> just go to sleep
�06[19:25] * Fluffernutter eyes Demiurge1000
[19:25] <OffToHades> one sec, lost my beacon :)
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[19:26] <Fluffernutter> it was a very important nap, you smartass :P
[19:26] <Demiurge1000> No, I made that clear!
[19:27] <Demiurge1000> A nap in preparation for later chaos
[19:27] <Fluffernutter> totally
[19:27] <Demiurge1000> Admittedly, the later chaos didn't transpire very much
[19:27] <Demiurge1000> Although, I do see a Beria_ even right now.
[19:28] <Fluffernutter> zomg impostor
[19:28] <Fluffernutter> burn the heretic
[19:28] <Maryana> well, great. now i'm too absorbed in symbolic logic wp articles to go to bed.
[19:28] <Demiurge1000> and then toast marshmallows with the fire!
[19:29] <Maryana> i just want answers to my question! must i find them on simple wiki?
[19:29] <Demiurge1000> Maryana: We used your bed as fuel to burn the heretic with anyway, so you've not lost anything. Bed was not possible anyway.
[19:29] <Maryana> oh. okay.
[19:29] <Maryana> :(
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[19:30] <Steven_Zhang> moo
[19:30] <tommorris> Google are getting rid of Knol.
�06[19:30] * Fluffernutter ist huggled
[19:31] <tommorris> So much for the Wikipedia-killer
[19:31] <Dragonfly6-7> tommorris - link?
[19:31] <Steven_Zhang> Knol?
[19:31] <tommorris> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/more-spring-cleaning-out-of-season.html
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[19:32] <Maryana> w00t!
[19:32] <Steven_Zhang> Lol lame.
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[19:32] <tommorris> Some of our friends in the banned user community have hilarious Knols about how Wikipedia censored their important scientific advances
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[19:33] <Fluffernutter> your meat, it is so large
[19:33] <tommorris> of course, they'll be able to continue editing at Wikiversity
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[19:34] <Addihockey10> Fluffernutter: Thanks.
[19:34] <Fluffernutter> not you
[19:34] <Steven_Zhang> Knol looks dumb.
[19:34] <Addihockey10> Steven_Zhang: LOL
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[19:35] <tommorris> PROTIP: if you are trying to build an "expert-driven" alternative to Wikipedia, having all of Wikipedia's banned users flood your site with shit is generally a bad start.
[19:35] <Steven_Zhang> hai Panyd
[19:35] <sonia> tommorris: hah
[19:35] <Fluttershy-EN> Opera 11.60 beta FTW.
[19:36] <evilgohan2> heh
[19:36] <Addihockey10> Steven_Zhang has wikipedia his resume.
[19:36] <Steven_Zhang> *on his resume
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�06[19:38] * tommorris has Wikipedia all up in his junk.
[19:38] <Panyd> ....
[19:38] <Addihockey10> tommorris: Well.. you have the "peed" part.
[19:38] <geniice> tommorris any wikipedia alt will get hit by wikipedia's banned users
[19:38] <Moe_Epsilon> going away from Wikipedia for the night, it's a wonder why I keep coming back to edit at all. I come back to full time editing for the first time over two years basically and it still gives me the same headache.
[19:38] <geniice> tommorris who's trying it this time
[19:39] <geniice> Moe_Epsilon which is?
[19:39] <tommorris> geniice: we were more sounding the death knell for Knol
[19:39] <Moe_Epsilon> WP:AN/I
[19:39] <Steven_Zhang> Hmm
[19:40] <Maryana> knell for knol. hehehe
[19:40] <geniice> Moe_Epsilon I hardly look at this these days
[19:40] <geniice> tommorris thing is we have the same problem with our own projects
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[19:42] <Moe_Epsilon> I asked an editor, Slowking4, what the list of editors he doesnt want to talk to on his userpage was for, asking if he'll remove it so named editors wouldn't take offense
[19:42] <Moe_Epsilon> his reply is to place some faux interaction ban on himself and add me to his user page
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[19:43] <Fluttershy-EN> wat
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[19:43] <Fluffernutter> ...ok
[19:44] <Steven_Zhang> oom oom
[19:47] <TParis> Out of mana?  Do you need my druid to innervate?
[19:47] <geniice> A man who rode an off-road motorbike in Manchester with a three-year-old boy sitting on the petrol tank is jailed for motoring, firearms and child cruelty offences.
[19:47] <Steven_Zhang> TParis:
[19:47] <geniice> slightly random combination
[19:47] <Steven_Zhang> Maybe close http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Identity_Assurance_Framework as redirect but delete history due to copyright issues?
[19:48] <tommorris> I should add a list of people I don't want to talk to on my user page.
[19:48] <tommorris> It'd consist of only one entry:
[19:48] <tommorris> {{USERNAME}}
[19:48] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[19:49] <MuZemike> Wait, so Knol has ceased to be? http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/more-spring-cleaning-out-of-season.html
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[19:49] <tommorris> MuZemike: well, not quite. the death warrant has been signed, the execution may take some time.
[19:49] <Steven_Zhang> awww
[19:50] <MuZemike> Well, the project was flawed from the start
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[19:51] <geniice> "Mr West said they were not bothered about living on top of an ancient burial ground."
[19:51] <geniice> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-15837458
[19:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tommorris but then you wouldnt want to monolouge either
[19:52] <Steven_Zhang> Addihockey10: stop it.
[19:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tommorris try {{#if:{{USERNAME}}|<yourusername>||I dont want to talk to you!}}
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[19:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> <yourusername> be your actual username
[19:53] <tommorris> ToAruShiroiNeko: you don't get it. I don't want to talk to anyone. That's why I'd put {{USERNAME}} on the don't talk to me list
[19:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> right
[19:53] <Earwig> uh
[19:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that if would display such a message to everyone but you
[19:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> just so you can monolouge to yourself
[19:54] <Earwig> {{USERNAME}} is a magic word now?
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[19:54] <Panyd> tommorris: good luck with that whole 'community building an encyclopedia' thing :P
[19:54] <tommorris> I fink so
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[19:54] <Earwig> I thought all we had was {{REVISIONUSER}}, which doesn't work on saved pages
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[19:55] <Earwig> nope, can't find it
�06[19:55] * tommorris doesn't keep track of the latest in template magic
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[19:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> lets create an if statement fo every word in the alphabet and make someone sing it
[19:55] <Addihockey10> Steven_Zhang: You got trolld'
[19:55] <Addihockey10> troll'd*
[19:56] <Addihockey10> MuZemike: Knololol.
[19:56] <Addihockey10> ...
[19:56] <Addihockey10> Steven_Zhang: I'm not
[19:56] <Addihockey10> Steven_Zhang: I'm getting the same thing
[19:56] <Earwig> it would be a PITA for the servers if {{USERNAME}} existed
[19:56] <Addihockey10> >:(
[19:56] <Addihockey10> Steven_Zhang: 	===	Steven_Zhang is in +g mode (server-side ignore.)
[19:56] <Addihockey10> x 1000
[19:56] <Addihockey10> and I'm not doing anything.
[19:56] <Earwig> because it couldn't cache the page content
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[19:57] <Fluttershy-EN> ok
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[19:59] <geniice> damit the moon's in the wrong place
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[20:01] <Earwig> o_O
[20:01] <Addihockey10> Steven_Zhang: I'm ofdf.
[20:01] <Addihockey10> Steven_Zhang: cya.
[20:01] <Addihockey10> Steven_Zhang: bye
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[20:03] <Maryana> geniice: ?
[20:03] <geniice> Maryana photography thing
[20:03] <geniice> there is a pic I want but the moon needs to be up
[20:03] <Maryana> ha, ok
[20:03] <Maryana> not much of a moon to speak of at the moment
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[20:04] <TenPoundHammer> boo
[20:04] <geniice> 2 days go go till new moon yes
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[20:05] <TenPoundHammer> any admins about?
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[20:05] <Steven_Zhang> about the backlog?
[20:05] <Steven_Zhang> to PROD?
[20:06] <TenPoundHammer> Yep.
[20:06] <TenPoundHammer> and CSD
[20:06] <Steven_Zhang> yeah, its bad -_-
�06[20:06] * Steven_Zhang grumbles again
[20:06] <Steven_Zhang> eh, 66 in CSD
[20:06] <Steven_Zhang> not that bad :)
[20:06] <TenPoundHammer> Prod has a bad backlog though
[20:07] <Steven_Zhang> indeed
[20:07] <Steven_Zhang> wtfbbq
[20:07] <Steven_Zhang> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:All_Wikipedia_files_with_the_same_name_on_Wikimedia_Commons
[20:07] <SpeakFree> Are there not enough active admins to handle it?
[20:08] <Moe_Epsilon> see RFA for that answer
[20:08] <TenPoundHammer> there are never enough admins
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[20:09] <SpeakFree> There are over 1000 admins apparently but what is the % of active ones?
[20:09] <WilliamH_UK> there have been no RFA candidacies this month
[20:09] <WilliamH_UK> no me gusta
[20:09] <TenPoundHammer> SpeakFree, 0.1%
[20:10] <Steven_Zhang> WilliamH_UK: you mean since me?
[20:10] <WilliamH_UK> sorry i mean successful candidacies
�06[20:10] * Steven_Zhang ran this month, remeber..
[20:10] <Steven_Zhang> yea
[20:10] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[20:10] <TenPoundHammer> I don't think i'll ever be admin
[20:10] <TenPoundHammer> I'm far too blunt
[20:10] <Steven_Zhang> I don't think I'll be either. I suck at article writing
[20:10] <sonia> of course- you're a hammer not a knife
[20:10] <sonia> re TenPoundHammer
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[20:10] <SpeakFree> I don't want to be an admin either
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[20:12] <SpeakFree> Just don't like dealing with users and their petty demands, did tech support for a few years so know what it must be like.
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[20:13] <SpeakFree> I have much respect for the ones who can handle it.
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[20:13] <Steven_Zhang> Admin
[20:13] <Steven_Zhang> Please
[20:13] <geniice> fortunately as an admin you can generaly ignore people
[20:13] <geniice> Steven_Zhang ?
[20:14] <Steven_Zhang> yeah, can you block http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/108.35.207.130 for one week.
[20:14] <Crazynas> wanta change the world, there's nothing to it
[20:14] <Steven_Zhang> They have failed to discuss their edits which editors have raised concerns about
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[20:14] <Steven_Zhang> I had the article semi prot yesterday
[20:14] <Steven_Zhang> to try and force discussion
[20:14] <Steven_Zhang> but it didnt work
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[20:15] <Steven_Zhang> as they've gone back to editing once prot expired.
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[20:15] <Steven_Zhang> need more links?
[20:15] <bep> can i get opinions on something
[20:15] <bep> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/more-spring-cleaning-out-of-season.html
[20:15] <bep> would you say this is directly linked to wikipedia
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[20:15] <bep> as Knol is being shut down
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�06[20:16] * WilliamH_UK had never even heard of Knol until now
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[20:16] <SpeakFree> I read about it when it was announced but haven't given it any attention since.
[20:16] <bep> ok so no then
[20:17] <Steven_Zhang> geniice:
[20:17] <geniice> ?
[20:17] <Steven_Zhang> dud you see what i posted ^
[20:17] <Steven_Zhang> *did
[20:17] <geniice> Category:All_Wikipedia_files_with_the_same_name_on_Wikimedia_Commons ?
[20:17] <geniice> not important
[20:17] <Steven_Zhang> no
[20:17] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[20:17] <Steven_Zhang> the block req
[20:18] <geniice> AIV is pretty empty
[20:18] <Steven_Zhang> Steven_Zhang> yeah, can you block http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/108.35.207.130 for one week. [12:14] <Steven_Zhang> They have failed to discuss their edits which editors have raised concerns about [12:14] <Steven_Zhang> I had the article semi prot yesterday [12:14] <Steven_Zhang> to try and force discussion [12:14] <Steven_Zhang> but it didnt work [12:15] <Steven_Zhang> as they've gone back to editing once prot expir
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[20:19] <Steven_Zhang> or 31 hrs
�06[20:19] * Steven_Zhang doesnt mind.
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[20:20] <geniice> 31 hours done
[20:20] <Steven_Zhang> tks
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�06[20:21] * Crazynas always wondered where 31 hours came from
[20:21] <Steven_Zhang> Crazynas: from antivandal school blocks
[20:22] <Steven_Zhang> 24 hours makes it more likely the student vandal will be in the same position to edit next day
[20:22] <Steven_Zhang> 31 hours delays it a bit
[20:22] <Steven_Zhang> etc
[20:22] <Crazynas> Steven_Zhang: yea, that's about what I figured... but that
[20:22] <LtNOWIS> oh, wow
[20:22] <geniice> Crazynas	 its a prime number
[20:22] <LtNOWIS> I never understood the 31 hours thing before.
[20:22] <Steven_Zhang> its my theory anyways
[20:22] <geniice> thats why it exists yes
[20:22] <PiRSquared17> A Mersenne Prime!
[20:23] <Earwig> I think I read that explanation of it somewhere, can't remember where
[20:23] <Steven_Zhang> See, I r smart
[20:23] <SpeakFree> A week is 168 hours
[20:23] <geniice> remmeber that the default block lengths can be edited by admins and are not built into the software
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[20:23] <Steven_Zhang> i should be an adminz
[20:23] <Crazynas> *makes sense
[20:23] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[20:23] <SpeakFree> so he got 137 hours reduction
[20:23] <Steven_Zhang> Indeed
[20:23] <Steven_Zhang> I remember Cant sleep clown will eat me
[20:24] <Steven_Zhang> did silly stuff
[20:24] <Steven_Zhang> like 9800 seconds
[20:24] <Steven_Zhang> etc
[20:24] <Crazynas> geniice: so is 29
[20:24] <Crazynas> :p
[20:24] <geniice> Steven_Zhang no I'm talking about the values in the dropdown box
[20:25] <Steven_Zhang> yeah but there's also a field to enter a block length manually, no?
[20:25] <PiRSquared17> Crazynas: but that's not A Mersenne prime
�06[20:25] * Crazynas thinks 31 hours has been a defalut block as long as one can remember
[20:25] <Steven_Zhang> at least there was in 2008...
[20:25] <PiRSquared17> !
[20:27] <Crazynas> PiRSquared17: o.O heaven forbid :P
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[20:28] <PiRSquared17> In mathematics, a Mersenne number, named after Marin Mersenne (a French monk who began the study of these numbers in the early 17th century), is a positive integer that is one less than a power of two: $M_p=2^p-1.\,$
[20:28] <Steven_Zhang> RFPP is backlogged too.
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[20:28] <Crazynas> PiRSquared17: indeed, haven't thought about the various classes of prime #'s in a while
[20:29] <PiRSquared17> Any odd perfect numbers?
[20:29] <PiRSquared17> :p
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[20:29] <PiRSquared17> None found yet, at least
[20:30] <Crazynas> PiRSquared17: no easy way to prove there aren't any?
[20:30] <sonia> anyone here pro w/ PD / copyright stuff?
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[20:31] <PiRSquared17> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_number#Odd_perfect_numbers
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[20:32] <Steven_Zhang> oportos
[20:32] <Steven_Zhang> yum
[20:32] <geniice> Crazynas we can prove quite a few things about odd perfect numbers but not if they exist or not
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[20:33] <PiRSquared17> Crazynas: I want a proof of the generalized Riemann hypothesis within a minute
[20:33] <Moe_Epsilon> does that template on odd perfect numbers actually suggest that editors try and find an odd perfect number to help the article, or is that just my imagination?
[20:33] <Crazynas> PiRSquared17: anyways the block should be 31hrs 41 minutes 59 seconds :P
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[20:33] <PiRSquared17> Yes
[20:33] <PiRSquared17> Pi
[20:34] <Crazynas> PiRSquared17: I would, but the text limit on IRC is to small for me to write it out here
[20:34] <Crazynas> :P
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[20:34] <Crazynas> Moe_Epsilon: yea, it looks like that to me too o.O (NoR?)
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[20:35] <Crazynas> PiRSquared17: so I'll leave it for three hundred years of mathmaticans to puzzle out what I meant
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[20:36] <PiRSquared17> Like FLT...
[20:36] <PiRSquared17> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=462035871&oldid=462030974
[20:36] <Moe_Epsilon> Crazynas: ha, very much so, we're going to have mathematics departments at univerisites trying to conjecture numbers into the article based on their research, I can see it now
[20:37] <Crazynas> PiRSquared17: precisely... :P
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[20:38] <Crazynas> PiRSquared17: rofl, re link
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[20:38] <Moe_Epsilon> what, no redirect butt whippins -> spanking ?
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[20:39] <PiRSquared17> lol
[20:40] <PiRSquared17> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=butt+whip&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&redirs=1&profile=advanced
[20:40] <PiRSquared17> Chuck Butts
[20:40] <PiRSquared17> Charles L. Butts is a former member of the Ohio Senate . ... After the 1980 elections, Butts was elected as minority whip and was elected as ...
[20:40] <Moe_Epsilon> "did you mean: 'bull whip'?"
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[20:41] <Moe_Epsilon> PiRSquared17: Butts was a whip?
[20:41] <Moe_Epsilon> irony
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[20:45] <PiRSquared17> Crazynas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 explains why there are no odd perfect numbers
[20:46] <Crazynas> o.O
[20:46] <Crazynas> lol
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[20:47] <Crazynas> PiRSquared17: I knew there was a reason I'm glad I don't remember the 80's
[20:47] <Moe_Epsilon> ha, I'm glad I see titles before videos start
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[20:49] <Myra> Steven_Zhang: What.
[20:50] <Steven_Zhang> Ah, hello
[20:51] <geniice> we need a ciShanjo wikipedia
[20:51] <Steven_Zhang> Phillipe said I should speak to you.
[20:51] <Steven_Zhang> about coding a bot, it would be tricky but he said you'd be the one to talk to :-)
[20:52] <Crazynas> geniice: ?
[20:52] <geniice> Zimbabwean language that has only just gained a written form
[20:53] <Crazynas> ahhh
[20:53] <geniice> Zambian rather
[20:53] <geniice> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15562729
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[20:55] <Moe_Epsilon> As a general standard, we don't create Wikipedias for languages that don't even have an article (that I know of) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=Shanjo
[20:55] <LtNOWIS> I thinke the Zimbabwean language is English.
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[20:56] <geniice> LtNOWIS Zimbabwe has a bunch of languages
[20:57] <geniice> Moe_Epsilon hey next you will be saying that we can't have a fayu wikipedia just because there isn't a written form
[20:57] <Steven_Zhang> Hmm how is this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dispute_Resolution/Proposals/Content_Committee
[20:57] <Steven_Zhang> :/
[20:58] <geniice> has that died yet>]
[20:58] <geniice> ?
[20:58] <Steven_Zhang> has what died yet?
[20:58] <Moe_Epsilon> at least Fayu has an article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fayu_language
[20:59] <SpeakFree> Wow are all 350 speakers member of that Wiki?
[20:59] <Moe_Epsilon> geniice: that is an interesting concept though, a spoken language Wikipedia, no articles, just audio
[21:00] <jubo2> dunno about that but cheezy bread is an excellent idea..
[21:00] <geniice> SpeakFree no that would be cornish
[21:00] <PiRSquared17> 350 users? No, none of them are, just the spambots
[21:01] <Crazynas> Steven_Zhang: looks promising and that's the general direction we're headed, but I don't think that would fly atm
[21:01] <geniice> Moe_Epsilon fayu would be difficult though. they take war a bit too seriouly (seriously 350? There were 2000 a few decades back)
[21:01] <Moe_Epsilon> they are fading faster than puritans
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[21:02] <SpeakFree> If I invent a language and get it on English WP somehow (by involving my legions of sock/meat puppets) will there be a wiki of it?
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[21:02] <geniice> SpeakFree no
[21:03] <SpeakFree> :P
[21:03] <geniice> SpeakFree languages have to be aproved by the language committe
[21:03] <geniice> and they don't like artificial languages very much
[21:03] <SpeakFree> What's the smallest active Wiki?
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[21:04] <jubo2> http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/ - Nedersaxon, liek the best in anglo-saxon language liek evar
[21:04] <geniice> SpeakFree http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias
[21:04] <SpeakFree> That's a local language spoken in some regions in the Netherlands.
[21:04] <PiRSquared17> #wiktionary-zu
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[21:05] <SpeakFree> I wonder where dialect ends and language begins.
[21:05] <geniice> jubo2 we have an actual anglo-saxon wikipedia http://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C4%93afods%C4%ABde
[21:05] <jubo2> SpeakFree: and nothern Germany and southern Danish
[21:05] <geniice> SpeakFree when you have a worthwhile army
[21:05] <Moe_Epsilon> I have a userpage there http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruker:Moe_Epsilon
[21:06] <jubo2> 'k 'k whatever as long as I don't have to speak Dutch ..
[21:06] <SpeakFree> Frisian is an official language in the Netherlands but they were defeated in the End.
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[21:07] <SpeakFree> Frisian might be easier for you apparently its the most closest related language to English. :P
[21:07] <Moe_Epsilon> maybe that is why they were defeated
[21:07] <SpeakFree> perhaps
[21:08] <Prodego> hey, Moe_Epsilon, its Moe_Epsilon
[21:08] <Moe_Epsilon> ohai
[21:08] <geniice> SpeakFree these days the most closely related language to English is lowland scots
[21:08] <SpeakFree> Is that a language or a dialect?
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[21:08] <geniice> SpeakFree http://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[21:09] <geniice> SpeakFree its a dialect but don't tell the scotish nationalists that
[21:09] <jubo2> The sun rises from the East and sets in the West
[21:09] <Prodego> mmm
[21:09] <SpeakFree> "Fowk an Social Studies" I dare not ask what that means. ;)
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[21:11] <Sigma_Of_Fury> NuclearWarfare: Hi.
[21:11] <NuclearWarfare> Hello
[21:11] <geniice> SpeakFree human and Social Studies
[21:11] <NuclearWarfare> Have we met
[21:11] <jubo2> ♫ Belive when I say to you ♫ I hope the Russians love their children too ♫
[21:11] <geniice> hmm interesting http://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fowk&redirect=no
[21:11] <Sigma_Of_Fury> Ho.
[21:11] <SpeakFree> So "Fowk" means human?
[21:11] <Sigma_Of_Fury> nO.
[21:11] <Sigma_Of_Fury> Ack
[21:12] <SpeakFree> Fowk me
[21:12] <Sigma_Of_Fury> No.
[21:12] <SpeakFree> Oh it's probably related to Folk
[21:12] <Moe_Epsilon> Folk and Social Studies?
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[21:12] <Moe_Epsilon> sounds like my kind of class
[21:12] <jubo2> Khrutchev says he will bury you ♫ I don't subsribe to this point of view ♫
[21:13] <Sigma_Of_Fury> jubo2: Khrushchev!!!
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[21:13] <Moe_Epsilon> In Soviet Russia, point view you
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[21:13] <geniice> SpeakFree very roughly
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[21:14] <jubo2> Mr. Reagan says he will protect you ♫ I don't belive this POV ♫
[21:15] <SpeakFree> NPOV!
[21:15] <jubo2> Nordic Point of View ?
�06[21:15] * SpeakFree troutslaps jubo2
[21:15] <Moe_Epsilon> Reagan may trickle down on you, however
�06[21:15] * jubo2 catches trout, rubs coarse sea salt and spices, sticks into oven
[21:16] <SpeakFree> yummy
[21:17] <jubo2> Nihilist Point of View ?
[21:17] <SpeakFree> Nuclear Point Of View
[21:17] <Moe_Epsilon> wait a second http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics why is an Occupy protester the lead image of trickle-down economics?
[21:18] <jubo2> Nanny Point of View ?
[21:18] <NuclearWarfare> Moe_Epsilon: Swap it out with a picture of Reagan
[21:18] <SpeakFree> Sigh recentism
[21:18] <SpeakFree> I'm going to remove it if you don't do anything with it.
[21:18] <NuclearWarfare> or Will Rodgers
[21:18] <NuclearWarfare> I've got it
[21:19] <jubo2> zzzleep..
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[21:20] <SpeakFree> People just might (mind you just might) read WP in 100 years and then it shouldn't be like a timecapsule of the early 2000s.
[21:20] <Moe_Epsilon> edit conflict, was going to put [[Image:CBO Revenues Outlays Percentage GDP.svg]] back as the lead image like it was before the Occupy image
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[21:23] <SpeakFree> Reagan should be in it as well as he was the major proponent of trickle-down
[21:25] <NuclearWarfare> too many images
[21:25] <NuclearWarfare> just a few is fine
[21:26] <SpeakFree> There is enough text for one more
[21:26] <NuclearWarfare> go ahead then
[21:26] <Moe_Epsilon> I didn't know we had two articles on it [[Reaganomics]] and [[trickle-down economics]] ([[supply-side economics]] too if you count that was a form of trickle-down by the article's own admission)
[21:26] <PiRSquared17> !link
[21:27] <SigmaWP> Coal balls are getting boring.
�06[21:27] * Peter-C looks at NuclearWarfare
[21:27] <NuclearWarfare> yes?
[21:27] <SpeakFree> you always have some overlap but you could make a case for merging and redirecting of course.
�06[21:27] * Peter-C calls the UN security council
[21:27] <Peter-C> We have a situation here boys
�06[21:27] * SigmaWP endorses NuclearWarfare
[21:27] <SigmaWP> And you have no idea who I am! :D
[21:28] <LtNOWIS> a graph is a good image
�06[21:28] * Fluffernutter eyes this conversation
[21:30] <Fluttershy-EN> ..jgftjhcgv
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[21:31] <PiRSquared17> {{csd|test}}
[21:32] <SigmaWP> PiRSquared17: Wrong
[21:32] <SigmaWP> PiRSquared17: {{db-g2}}
[21:32] <PiRSquared17> TW does it anyway...
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[21:35] <slon02> when bolding the title in the first sentence, do you bold the abbreviation?
[21:37] <SigmaWP> slon02: Depends
[21:37] <Steven_Zhang> Crazynas: something needs to be done
[21:37] <Moe_Epsilon> i've seen instances where it has and hasn't been
[21:37] <SigmaWP> For instance, "The '''Soviet Union''', more commonly known as the '''USSR'''..."
[21:37] <SigmaWP> slon02: ^
[21:38] <slon02> '''Directorate General of Hydrocarbons''' (DGH) or '''Directorate General of Hydrocarbons (DGH)'''?
[21:38] <slon02> or is there no clear consensus on that?
[21:38] <SigmaWP> '''Directoreage Thingy''' ('''DGH''') is foobar.
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[21:39] <slon02> ah, ok
[21:39] <Moe_Epsilon> I've always assumed that if it was a common abbreviation associated with article it is talking about, then its bolded, like USSR for Soviet Union
[21:39] <Crazynas> Steven_Zhang: ?
[21:39] <LtNOWIS> Is there a process for killing dubious sources?
[21:39] <Steven_Zhang> Steven_Zhang: to bring some binding resolution
[21:39] <Steven_Zhang> to unsolvable cases
[21:39] <slon02> LtNOWIS: I'd presume talk page consensus
[21:40] <SigmaWP> LtNOWIS: [[WP:BOLD|Chainsaw]].
[21:40] <SigmaWP> But slon02's method works too.
[21:40] <slon02> >.>
[21:40] <slon02> chainsaw works too
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[21:40] <Steven_Zhang> new RFA
[21:40] <Crazynas> Steven_Zhang: indeed, but binding resolutions take the fun out of it :P
[21:41] <Steven_Zhang> its not fun :P
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[21:41] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: WAH???
[21:41] <slon02> that's not a very fun RfA
[21:42] <SigmaWP> Ouch
[21:42] <Moe_Epsilon> 0 support, 2 oppose, it's already dead
[21:42] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[21:42] <Steven_Zhang> 0/2/0
[21:42] <Steven_Zhang> 0%
[21:42] <Steven_Zhang> XD
[21:42] <Moe_Epsilon> WP:SNOW
[21:42] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: I'm trying not to laugh.
[21:42] <Nascar1996> I probably won't ever be administrator...
[21:42] <Steven_Zhang> no, WP:BLIZZARD
[21:42] <slon02> with less than 30 edits in the past year...
[21:42] <SigmaWP> WP:NUCLEARWINTER
�06[21:43] * slon02 hopes that his own RfA won't end up like that
[21:43] <Moe_Epsilon> NuclearWarfare sounds like he had a part in that
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[21:43] <NuclearWarfare> I did what now?
[21:43] <SigmaWP> Moe_Epsilon: Beans.
[21:43] <Moe_Epsilon> :p
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[21:43] <Moe_Epsilon> I'm just kidding.
[21:43] <LtNOWIS> I've thought about waiting like another 10 years to ask for adminship.
[21:44] <Steven_Zhang> hi NuclearWarfare
[21:44] <SigmaWP> I'm not going to ask for adminship
�06[21:44] * SigmaWP wants to be a Tool! :D
[21:44] <NuclearWarfare> Hey Steven
[21:44] <LtNOWIS> so as to have one of the longest started editing to adminship times ever.
[21:44] <Steven_Zhang> slon02: RFA is tough :D
[21:44] <Steven_Zhang> especially when you have a history like me :P
[21:44] <NuclearWarfare> LtNOWIS: It's not all it's cracked up to be, but occasionally you can find excuse to block someone you hate
[21:45] <NuclearWarfare> LtNOWIS: It's not all it's cracked up to be, but occasionally you can find excuse to block someone you hate
[21:45] <NuclearWarfare> ah
[21:45] <slon02> Steven_Zhang: So I've heard
[21:45] <Steven_Zhang> 124/45 isnt so bad though
[21:45] <slon02> I've had 3 so far
[21:45] <SigmaWP> NuclearWarfare: You just said that
[21:45] <NuclearWarfare> yeah
[21:45] <NuclearWarfare> I know
[21:45] <Steven_Zhang> it could've been 45/124 :P
[21:45] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: At least you had the 24 part :P
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[21:46] <LtNOWIS> yeah, I don't actually want the extra work
[21:46] <LtNOWIS> but being able to see deleted edits would be cool
[21:46] <SigmaWP> LtNOWIS: You can do that right now.
[21:46] <LtNOWIS> oh?
[21:46] <SigmaWP> LtNOWIS: Just take a screenshot of pages in Special:NewPages
[21:46] <Steven_Zhang> I could use suppress redirect.
[21:47] <SigmaWP> 1 hour later, you have deleted content on your computer.
[21:47] <LtNOWIS> bah
[21:47] <Steven_Zhang> hehe
[21:47] <PiRSquared17> Download the wiki dump
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�06[21:50] * Peter-C eats Steven_Zhang
[21:50] <SigmaWP> Oh, the irony
[21:50] <Moe_Epsilon> I feel bad http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship&action=history it was the first edit to the page since the 12th
[21:51] <Crazynas> Moe_Epsilon: let me get this straight, you feel bad, for a project page on wikipedia [[perspective]] ;)
[21:51] <Fluttershy-EN> Not a huge demand of new admins during the holidays.
[21:52] <Moe_Epsilon> I don't feel bad for the ''page''
[21:52] <Moe_Epsilon> more or less the process
[21:53] <SigmaWP> Moe_Epsilon: Vote for the mailing lists
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[21:53] <slon02> It looks like we're in need of an admin for this month
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[21:54] <slon02> Judging by Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#Ahhh
[21:54] <SigmaWP> slon02: I think it's a sign
[21:54] <slon02> a sign?
[21:54] <SigmaWP> Because that random person just ran for admin
�06[21:54] * SigmaWP nods very mysteriously
[21:54] <slon02> praise Jimbo! It must be my time
[21:55] <Moe_Epsilon> more of a giant waving banner
[21:55] <SigmaWP> Well, I'm going to watch it dissolve.
[21:55] <SigmaWP> jwales: :O
�06[21:55] * SigmaWP bows to jwales
[21:55] <Fluttershy-EN> Guys, Opera 11.60 beta is best Opera.
[21:55] <amalmurali47> hello
[21:56] <SigmaWP> slon02: Out of curiousity, how old is your account?
[21:56] <slon02> SigmaWP: only about 2 years
[21:56] <Fluttershy-EN> 2
[21:56] <slon02> o.o
[21:56] <SigmaWP> O.o
[21:56] <Fluttershy-EN> o.O
�06[21:56] * slon02 wonders how many people have been keeping track of him
�06[21:56] * SigmaWP hurries to watch your talkpage
[21:56] <Moe_Epsilon> obviously not many
[21:56] <Fluttershy-EN> Me and Coren have been stalking your ass.
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[21:57] <Peter-C> Oh, hello Fluffernutter
[21:57] <Peter-C> Didn't see you there
[21:57] <Fluffernutter> yes hello
�06[21:57] * Fluttershy-EN eats Peter-C
[21:57] <Fluffernutter> badger is with my dad this week
[21:57] <Crazynas> slon02: [[WP:TINC]] :P
[21:57] <amalmurali47> Fluttershy-EN: Beta?
[21:57] <Fluttershy-EN> yeah, Opera 11.60 is in beta.
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[21:58] <SigmaWP> Chenzw: Hi
[21:58] <Fluttershy-EN> I've been using Opera since it became freeware.
[21:58] <Chenzw> Hi SigmaWP :)
[21:58] <slon02> oh, ok then
[21:58] <Fluttershy-EN> you know, when Opera had a shitty UI.
[21:58] <Fluttershy-EN> and I mean shit.
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[22:00] <LL2|JedIRC> Tater haters! They must be out of their mind! Tater Haters! You know its just not right! Tater haters! Its nothing less than evil, not liking taters should be illegal!
�06[22:01] * slon02 goes to clean his talk page now that he thinks people are following him
[22:01] <LL2|JedIRC> ^ me singing part of another somg
�06[22:01] * SigmaWP benefits from potato haters
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[22:01] <Moe_Epsilon> [[Wikipedia:List of administrators]]: There are 1,514 (as of now) administrator accounts (active and otherwise), 730 of them active (as of 2011-11-22).
[22:01] <Moe_Epsilon> more inactive than active
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[22:02] <Fluttershy-EN> we need moar admins
[22:02] <Fluttershy-EN> I might run one day.
[22:02] <Pilif12p> obama for admin
[22:02] <Crazynas> Moe_Epsilon: are you aware there are more inactive regular editors then actice as well :O
[22:02] <Fluttershy-EN> ^ gtfo this chat
�06[22:02] * LL2|JedIRC np: Tater Haters || Artist: Fred Figglehorn || Album: Who's Ready To Party?
[22:02] <Crazynas> *active
[22:02] <LL2|JedIRC> Pilif12p: LOL
[22:02] <SpeakFree> only 52% are active?
�06[22:02] * Pilif12p murders LL2|JedIRC 
[22:03] <Moe_Epsilon> yeah I figure that much
[22:03] <Mike_H> nobody wants to deal with a lot of WP bullshit anymore
[22:03] <Fluttershy-EN> Obama is a terrible president that's only continuing the fail that is the Bush administration.
[22:03] <Mike_H> that's why there are a lot of inactive people
[22:03] <Mike_H> the end.
[22:03] <Peter-C> Peter-C for president
[22:03] <SigmaWP> LL2|JedIRC: See what happens when you don't give context?
[22:03] <LL2|JedIRC> Raindow-Dash-EN: -_-'
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[22:03] <Crazynas> Jimbo for president (someone was going to say it)
[22:03] <Crazynas> :p
[22:03] <Fluttershy-EN> Not Rainbow Dash anymore
[22:03] <Pilif12p> Jimbo Forever.
[22:03] <SigmaWP> Larry for president
[22:03] <SpeakFree> Where is it going to end?
[22:03] <Peter-C> Fluffernutter for admin.
[22:03] <Fluttershy-EN> that name change you said wasn't going to work, it did.
[22:03] <Peter-C> Hah, Fluffernutter will never be an admin
[22:03] <LL2|JedIRC> Er, Fluttershy-EN: double -_-'
[22:04] <Moe_Epsilon> I've had 5 old RFAs, last one was 2006
[22:04] <Moe_Epsilon> not going back to that hell hole
[22:04] <SpeakFree> At one point WP might be locked just because there are too few vandal controllers.
[22:04] <LL2|JedIRC> Peter-C: Sorry to interupt your *smartness*, but fluffernutter had a successful RfA
�06[22:04] * Fluffernutter snorts
[22:04] <Crazynas> SpeakFree: have you heard of flagged revisions?
[22:05] <SpeakFree> Maybe the WMF should just hire admins
[22:05] <SigmaWP> Fluttershy-EN: That's because you had the crap-crat rename you.
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[22:05] <SpeakFree> Yes, German Wikipedia has them for all articles.
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�06[22:06] * LL2|JedIRC np: Christmas Cash || Artist: Fred Figglehorn || Album: It's Hackin' Christmas
[22:06] <SigmaWP> Ooh, I found my rename request
[22:06] <SpeakFree> if they hire programmers to do work that no volunteer programmer will or can do they just might hire admins as well for work that remains undone.
[22:06] <hare> What were you before?
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[22:06] <LL2|JedIRC> Probably "Alpha"
[22:06] <LL2|JedIRC> :P
�06[22:06] * Crazynas thinks that like Mr. Twain reports of the death of wikipedia (or its admin corps) are highly overrated
[22:07] <Fluttershy-EN> Holy hell, I had some racist pm me on the IRC.
[22:07] <Fluttershy-EN> something with numbers?
[22:07] <Moe_Epsilon> Crazynas: could always just pay administrators, gives them an incentive to say once they get the tools instead of falling into obscurity :p
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[22:08] <Crazynas> Moe_Epsilon: we could pay people that write sourced copy-edited articles too (which are harder to find than admins sometimes)
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[22:09] <Moe_Epsilon> ha, that'll be the day :P
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[22:10] <SpeakFree> Linux is a free OS but many people who work on it get paid for their efforts.
[22:10] <Fluttershy-EN> Speaking of that.
[22:10] <Fluttershy-EN> Paying people to make articles, yay or nay?
[22:10] <PiRSquared17> nay
�06[22:10] * LL2|JedIRC np: Don't Forget to Brush || Artist: Fred Figglehorn || Album: Don't Forget to Brush || Album art of: Who's Ready To Party?
[22:10] <WilliamH_UK> er
[22:10] <Fluttershy-EN> why
[22:10] <WilliamH_UK> that RFA
�06[22:10] * WilliamH_UK scratches his head
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[22:10] <LL2|JedIRC> Oops, didn't mean to send that
[22:11] <Crazynas> WilliamH_UK: yea we know already :P
[22:11] <Steven_Zhang> oww
[22:11] <Steven_Zhang> whacked my knee
[22:11] <Steven_Zhang> on the desk
[22:11] <Fluttershy-EN> LL, you sent that shit in the IRC twice.
[22:11] <Moe_Epsilon> With all due respect, if I wanted to withdraw my nomination I should have refrained from submitting it in the first place. --l a t i s h r e d o n e (previously User:All in) 03:06, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
�06[22:11] * SigmaWP now playing: Games
[22:11] <WilliamH_UK> seriously warped logic
[22:11] <SigmaWP> Moe_Epsilon: {{facepalm|supreme}}
[22:11] <SigmaWP> Moe_Epsilon: But on the bright side, this is getting funny
[22:12] <Moe_Epsilon> well, I don't know how funny it is, but it sure beats the hell out of it being me
[22:12] <LL2|JedIRC> Fluttershy-EN: as I said, I didn't intend to send that from my favs
[22:12] <Fluttershy-EN> favs? you actually like that screaming fuck?
[22:13] <LL2|JedIRC> Fluttershy-EN: ... -_-' shut up
[22:13] <SigmaWP> Fluttershy-EN: Seeing that some people on the earth like you....
[22:13] <Fluttershy-EN> ^ troll alert.
[22:13] <SigmaWP> LL2|JedIRC: Why no snarky responses?
[22:13] <LL2|JedIRC> SigmaWP: I'd actually expect that from Fluttershy-EN
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[22:14] <SigmaWP> Fair enough
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[22:14] <Mike_H> I see some Mean Girls picking on a Cady Heron!
[22:14] <LL2|JedIRC> Fluttershy-EN: no shit, we all know SigmaWP is a troll. Same for derp.
[22:14] <LL2|JedIRC> Though they are ACCEPTABLE trolls :P
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�06[22:14] * SigmaWP is glad that derp gave him the Grand Text File of Ultimate Trolling
[22:15] <Mike_H> SigmaWP: Too bad it was in Canadian French :(
[22:15] <Sven_Manguard> Panyd_sleeping: how ironic, you're here, but you're alseep
[22:15] <LL2|JedIRC> I can haz? (<s>cheezburger</s>)
[22:15] <Sven_Manguard> I'll PM
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[22:15] <SigmaWP> Sven_Manguard: Really? Opposing someone just because they work for TechEssentials?
[22:15] <LL2|JedIRC> Mike_H: No, it was in Trollololinese
[22:15] <Pilif12p> SigmaWP: where now?
[22:16] <SigmaWP> Pilif12p: Do you stalk that or something?
[22:16] <SigmaWP> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sven_Manguard/2011_ArbCom_Voter_Guide
[22:16] <Sven_Manguard> SigmaWP: If you knew a third of what I did, you'd do the same SigmaWP
[22:16] <SigmaWP> Files.
[22:16] <Pilif12p> SigmaWP: yes
�06[22:16] * SigmaWP still doesn't say the same
[22:17] <LL2|JedIRC> If you hold a personal grudge with someone, that'd be ok to have as a reason for opposing a RfA
[22:17] <SigmaWP> LL2|JedIRC: Of course; it's RfA
[22:17] <LL2|JedIRC> I.e. If I had a grudge with Fluffernutter, which I don't, but if I did, I might have opposed her RfA
[22:17] <Pilif12p> SigmaWP: For some reason, he really hates us.
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[22:17] <LL2|JedIRC> Me?
[22:18] <Sven_Manguard> There are five staff members at TE. Of those five, three, including Delta, were involved in... well... an incident before your time in which several parties deliberately interfered with an ArbCom investigation.
[22:18] <Fluffernutter> ...?
[22:18] <Pilif12p> no, svn
[22:18] <Pilif12p> sven
[22:18] <SigmaWP> LL2|JedIRC: I remember you asking crappy questions there
[22:18] <Pilif12p> and i'm not even going to say how wrong he is, because i'm on his ignore list.
[22:18] <LL2|JedIRC> Fluffernutter: I should use an alternative for refering to you, shouldn't I?
[22:18] <Sven_Manguard> Of the five staff members of TE, two of them, *not delta* have threatened or harassed me over the IRC
[22:18] <SigmaWP> Fluffernutter: And I asked a perfectly acceptable question which damn went unanswered
[22:18] <Fluffernutter> i'm just confused about what you all are talking about
�06[22:19] * Fluffernutter wasn't paying attention
[22:19] <Pilif12p> i'm going to part before i blow up about how shit he's making up
[22:19] <LL2|JedIRC> When aren't you, fluff?
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[22:19] <LL2|JedIRC> :P
[22:19] <LL2|JedIRC> Er, when ARE you?
[22:19] <Fluffernutter> "usually"
[22:19] <Sven_Manguard> Fluffernutter: I'm opposing DeltaQuad's ArbCom run personally (No Vote is my official recommendation) because of an incident back in 2010 which I won't talk about in public.
[22:19] <Mike_H> This sounds juicy.
[22:20] <Fluffernutter> the one with that one person, and the emails, and stuff?
�06[22:20] * Peter-C gives Badger to Sven_Manguard
[22:20] <Mike_H> Peter-C: Honey Badger?
[22:20] <LL2|JedIRC> And the shit that happened that we shouldn't know about, but do somehow?
[22:21] <Mike_H> LL2|JedIRC: I don't know, I want to know
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[22:21] <Sven_Manguard> LL2|JedIRC: There are some things that ArbCom does that remain private.
[22:21] <Sven_Manguard> For good reason
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�06[22:22] * Mike_H whispers to Fluffernutter, "It can't be that bad, nobody flipped a table or anything like those Real Housewives."
�06[22:22] * Fluffernutter flips a table at Mike_H
[22:22] <Mike_H> :O
[22:22] <Mike_H> The
[22:22] <LL2|JedIRC> Ok, so he...*whisper-whisper*...and DQ....*whisper*...and then...*blah blah blah*...so he... *asdf*...and both of them...*asdf*. The end.
[22:22] <Mike_H> The Jersey comes out!
[22:23] <SigmaWP> LL2|JedIRC: There's only one way to find out what happened in 2010
[22:23] <SigmaWP> To the Official ED Wikipedia IRC Chat Logs!
[22:23] <LL2|JedIRC> Wasn't that a hell of a story, Mike-H?
�03[22:23] * Pilif12p (~Pilif12p@firefox/community/pilif12p) has joined #wikipedia-en
[22:23] <LL2|JedIRC> *Mike_H
[22:23] <Mike_H> LL2|JedIRC, needs moar table flipping, Fluffernutter had the spirit of it.
[22:24] <LL2|JedIRC> Oh, I forgot this
[22:24] <SigmaWP> Pilif12p: Did you have fun exploding?
[22:24] <Pilif12p> SigmaWP: very much, yes.
[22:24] <Mike_H> LL2|JedIRC, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v346ckdrOyU
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[22:25] <LL2|JedIRC> A few years later...*asdffdsd*...at...*adsf*...and they became...*ahdjdj*...and they...*ahdhd*. I think thats most of it.
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[22:25] <LL2|JedIRC> :P I'm too lazy to type actual words
[22:26] <Mike_H> LL2|JedIRC, in my version, and then this happened.
�06[22:26] * Fluffernutter tackles foks
[22:26] <Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPmUrQyk-UM&t=14m25s
[22:26] <Mike_H> the end.
[22:26] <foks> :3
[22:27] <LL2|JedIRC> Fluffernutter: do you need another table to flip?
[22:27] <Fluffernutter> yesplz
[22:27] <Pilif12p> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[22:27] <Fluffernutter> Pilif12p to the rescue
�06[22:27] * Mike_H goes to oppose DeltaQuad because Teresa wanted her brother to spend the whole night with her at Christmas and Caroline called her selfish.
[22:27] <Mike_H> ~~~~
[22:28] <LL2|JedIRC> Mike_H: in the beginning...*asdf*...created the...*asdf and asdf*. He saw that it sucked. He started over again. The end.
[22:28] <Fluffernutter> good plan
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[22:28] <SigmaWP> LL2|JedIRC: No, he hit the rollback button.
[22:29] <SpeakFree> Don't you mean ADF?
[22:29] <SpeakFree> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_Disk_File
[22:29] <SigmaWP> New RfA is getting funny
[22:29] <SpeakFree> or ADHD? :P
�06[22:30] * LL2|JedIRC hands Fluffernutter a shitton of tables, plus one that is shaped like a sandwich
�06[22:30] * Fluffernutter flips tables
[22:30] <JG84|Around-ish> oh, Fluffernutter likes flipping tables?
[22:30] <JG84|Around-ish> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[22:30] <Moe_Epsilon> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻�
[22:30] <SigmaWP> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[22:30] <Pilif12p> tablefilp
[22:30] <Pilif12p> fuck
[22:30] <sonia> o_o
[22:30] <Mike_H> Fluffernutter, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=See7PfwFpQc&t=0m15s
[22:30] <Mike_H> I think this is your nephew's christening!
[22:30] <Nascar1996> Whoa!
[22:31] <SigmaWP> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
�06[22:31] * Fluffernutter hasn't got a nephew
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[22:31] <Mike_H> You do now.
[22:31] <Mike_H> Salute!
�06[22:33] * LL2|JedIRC comes back, and sees the terr--er, nice artwork Fluffernutter made by flipping tables!
�03[22:33] * Jeske_Merensky is now known as Jeske|Away
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[22:33] <SigmaWP> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[22:33] <Fluffernutter> yes thank you
[22:34] <Pilif12p> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[22:34] <sonia> except fluff doesn't look like that
[22:34] <Peter-C> :O
[22:34] <SigmaWP> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
�06[22:34] * Peter-C eats sonia
�06[22:34] * Peter-C digests sonia
[22:34] <PiRSquared17> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
�06[22:34] * Fluffernutter is a table
[22:34] <SigmaWP> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[22:34] <Logan_> Stop it, guys.
[22:34] <Mike_H> Fluffernutter, hare is from like 5 minutes away from where these ladies live and he insists they are not representative of his area, although Teresa may be representative of Paterson
[22:34] <PiRSquared17> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
�06[22:34] * Peter-C puts food on Fluffernutter
[22:34] <SigmaWP> Peter-C: Do you still have the link to that image of a plane?
[22:34] <Logan_> Pilif12p: Stop, please.
[22:34] <Logan_> Er.
[22:34] <Logan_> PiRSquared17: Stop.
[22:34] <Pilif12p> i only did it twice
[22:34] <Fluffernutter> you guys can stop now, you;ve angered the bot
[22:34] <Peter-C> SigmaWP - vague?
[22:35] <SigmaWP> Peter-C: I think the imagename started with "t"
[22:35] <Logan_> Fluffernutter: That's flattering.
[22:35] <LL2|JedIRC> Fluffernutter: um...wheres the one shaped like a sandwich that I game you?
[22:35] <SigmaWP> Thundersomethingwhat
[22:35] <PiRSquared17> Logan_: I only did it twice, once was in red...
[22:35] <LtNOWIS> I wish people wouldn't use bare urls in citations.
[22:35] <Peter-C> Erm... vague? :P
[22:35] <SigmaWP> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[22:35] <Peter-C> Oh
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[22:35] <Steven_Zhang> I am bored.
[22:35] <Logan_> SigmaWP: Stop.
[22:35] <Peter-C> A10-C - Google it
[22:35] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: Help flip tables
[22:35] <Peter-C> *Wikipedia it
[22:35] <Pilif12p> no more tableflips
[22:35] <Steven_Zhang> I knew you would say something
[22:35] <Steven_Zhang> like thay
�06[22:35] * LL2|JedIRC flips Pilif12p
[22:35] <Pilif12p> ಠ_ಠ
[22:35] <Moe_Epsilon> [[Help:Tableflipping]]
[22:36] <SigmaWP> Pilif12p: σ_σ
[22:36] <LL2|JedIRC> LOL STEVEN_ZHANG
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[22:36] <LL2|JedIRC> I timed it right on my end
�06[22:36] * SpeakFree is going to sleep zzz zzz
[22:36] <Pilif12p> oh lord what have i started
[22:36] <SpeakFree> bye
[22:36] <SigmaWP> SpeakFree: Bye
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[22:36] <Peter-C> I hate you Pilif12p - (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[22:37] <Logan_> Enough tableflips, people.
[22:37] <Peter-C> THAT WAS MY ONE TABLE FLIP
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[22:37] <Mike_H> Fluffernutter, where is "The Manor"?
[22:37] <SigmaWP> Someday Logan_ will get frustrated enough to flip tables himself
�06[22:37] * LL2|JedIRC also flips Logan_ for attempting to ban tableflipping
[22:37] <Logan_> SigmaWP: That day is not today.
[22:37] <Fluffernutter> no clue
[22:38] <Peter-C> SigmaWP - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/A-10_Thunderbolt_II_In-flight-2.jpg
[22:38] <LL2|JedIRC> Logan_ you sure?
[22:38] <Logan_> Positive.
�06[22:38] * LL2|JedIRC tries his *hardest* to make it that day
[22:41] <SigmaWP> Peter-C: Thanks
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[22:42] <Moe_Epsilon> flipping tables does provide an excellent outlet for stress release however
�03[22:42] * Jeske|Away is now known as Jeske_Merensky
[22:42] <Steven_Zhang> My back is sore.
[22:42] <Steven_Zhang> Cow tipping
[22:43] <Fluffernutter> leave the cows alone
�06[22:43] * LL2|JedIRC hits Fluffernutter over the head with a pillow for reasons unknown to even god himself
[22:43] <Fluffernutter> ...
[22:45] <Steven_Zhang> wow
[22:45] <Steven_Zhang> November
[22:46] <Steven_Zhang> may be the first month in a long time that we had no successful admin candidates
[22:46] <WilliamH_UK> sad day in wiki history
[22:46] <Moe_Epsilon> we still have a week
[22:46] <Moe_Epsilon> right?
�06[22:46] * Moe_Epsilon looks around�
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[22:46] <Steven_Zhang> Oh wow
[22:46] <Alpha_Quadrant> is there an admin around?
[22:46] <Steven_Zhang> Actually
[22:47] <SigmaWP> Alpha_Quadrant: Fluffernutter
[22:47] <Steven_Zhang> will be the first month in our history
[22:47] <Steven_Zhang> with no successful RFAs.
[22:47] <Fluffernutter> what?
[22:47] <Steven_Zhang> that is sad indeed.
[22:47] <Steven_Zhang> Every other month since RFA started had at least one successful RFA
[22:47] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: Go ask someone for a reconfirmation
[22:47] <Steven_Zhang> -_-
[22:47] <Alpha_Quadrant> is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Verax_NMS an exact copy of the deleted article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verax_NMS
[22:47] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: Fluffernutter for instance, is bound to pass
[22:47] <Fluffernutter> pass what?
[22:47] <Steven_Zhang> Lol
[22:47] <SigmaWP> RfA
[22:47] <SigmaWP> again
[22:47] <Steven_Zhang> RFA
�06[22:48] * Fluffernutter cries quietly in the corner, wishing she knew what was going on
[22:48] <Steven_Zhang> we have no successful rfas this month.
[22:48] <Pilif12p> don't worry, Fluffernutter
[22:48] <Fluffernutter> Alpha_Quadrant, looking
[22:48] <Steven_Zhang> Unless we get one within the next 20 hours that goes live
[22:48] <Steven_Zhang> then yeah
[22:48] <Steven_Zhang> SigmaWP: run for rfa :)
[22:48] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: No.
[22:49] <SigmaWP> Back in May, I had the bad habit of testing my scripts on my main account... >_>
[22:49] <Alpha_Quadrant> Steven_Zhang: your recent RfA is a warning to all potential candidates. The current RfA atmosphere is problematic. No one wants to "test the waters"
[22:49] <Fluffernutter> Alpha_Quadrant, no, not identical or even really much the same
[22:49] <Alpha_Quadrant> Fluffernutter: ok, can you unsalt the title then please?
[22:49] <Steven_Zhang> Alpha_Quadrant: eh, maybe
[22:49] <Moe_Epsilon> it will truly be a bad day in the history of Wikipedia when no one ''runs'' for adminship in a month, at least we got a couple people to do that
[22:49] <SigmaWP> And more than once I forgot to add time.sleep
[22:49] <Steven_Zhang> just cos I did shit doesnt mean others will.
[22:49] <SigmaWP> So I flooded recent changes
�06[22:49] * SigmaWP goes to hide
[22:50] <Steven_Zhang> Logan_: fail
[22:50] <Fluffernutter> i don't really see any notability in that article though, Alpha_Quadrant
[22:50] <Alpha_Quadrant> ok
[22:50] <Steven_Zhang> ah
[22:50] <Steven_Zhang> unfail
[22:50] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[22:50] <Logan_> Steven_Zhang: hmm?
[22:50] <Steven_Zhang> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Latish_redone&oldid=462050342 I saw that
[22:50] <Steven_Zhang> and thought, fail
[22:50] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[22:51] <Logan_> oh, yes
[22:51] <Logan_> that template kind of fails, so you have to do it in two steps
[22:51] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: Oh yeah, don't close it
[22:51] <SigmaWP> Logan_: Pointless template anyway
[22:51] <Steven_Zhang> the rfa?
[22:51] <Steven_Zhang> why not
[22:52] <Logan_> SigmaWP: I suppose it's pointless, but, w/e
[22:52] <Steven_Zhang> Heh, oppose from Sir Turds
[22:52] <Alpha_Quadrant> Fluffernutter: hmm, you're right. None of the sources are reliable
[22:53] <Steven_Zhang>         Steven Zhang, 12:25 pm, 10 November 2011, Thursday (13 days ago) (UTC+11), withdrawn by candidate (124/45/7)
[22:53] <Steven_Zhang> poo
[22:54] <WilliamH_UK> I do love the simpsons
[22:54] <WilliamH_UK> we're talking about S-E-X
[22:54] <WilliamH_UK> infront of the C-H-I-L-D-R-E-N
[22:54] <Moe_Epsilon> better than 0/9/0
[22:54] <WilliamH_UK> SEX CAULDRON?I thought they closed that place down?!!
[22:54] <Steven_Zhang> yeah
[22:54] <Nascar1996> They learn it in school anyway.
[22:55] <Steven_Zhang> 73.3%
[22:55] <Fluffernutter> sex? where??
[22:55] <Steven_Zhang> still a fail
[22:55] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: WHY???
[22:55] <Steven_Zhang> why what
[22:55] <slon02> anyone going to close that RfA soon?
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[22:56] <SigmaWP> It was my humor source
[22:56] <Pilif12p> what is "s-e-x"
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[22:58] <Alpha_Quadrant> Steven_Zhang: well, you made WP:100
[22:58] <Steven_Zhang> yeah i suppose
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[22:59] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: I'm going to ask "Why can't you just use {{db-move}} like everyone else" :P
[23:00] <Steven_Zhang> Hm?
[23:00] <Steven_Zhang> it takes too long
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[23:01] <LL2|JedIRC> "I showed that bitch the world.
[23:01] <TParis> Kaley Cuoco is my new favorite actress :D
[23:01] <LL2|JedIRC> "Bitches love worlds."
[23:01] <LL2|JedIRC> :P
[23:02] <Fluffernutter> what's she done, TParis?
[23:02] <TParis> I cant say it without sounding like a pig...
[23:02] <Fluffernutter> ..
[23:02] <Fluffernutter> you like her boobs?
[23:02] <Moe_Epsilon> oink
[23:02] <TParis> hellz yeah
[23:02] <Fluffernutter> men *eyeroll*
[23:03] <TParis> She also dated her co-star who plays a nerd...like me :D
[23:03] <TParis> He also played a nerd on Roseanne
[23:03] <TParis> forget his name
[23:03] <Fluffernutter> she dated johnny galecki?
�06[23:03] * Fluffernutter didn't know that
[23:03] <TParis> Which means I have a chance...all I gotta do is ditch my wife, move to hollywood, and arrange a "coincidental" meeting.
[23:03] <TParis> yeah, for 2 years
[23:04] <TParis> Shes also less than a year older than me :D
[23:04] <Fluffernutter> weirdo
[23:04] <Steven_Zhang> Logan_: omg
[23:04] <TParis> And completely hot
[23:04] <Steven_Zhang> boobs?
[23:04] <TParis> boobs
�08[23:04] * Maury throws snowballs at Fluffernutter and Steven_Zhang
[23:04] <Logan_> Stelpa: Yes?
[23:04] <Logan_> er
[23:04] <Steven_Zhang> boooobs
[23:04] <Fluffernutter> no boobs
[23:04] <Logan_> Steven_Zhang: Yes?
[23:04] <Fluffernutter> you're all too young for boobs
�03[23:04] * Maury is now known as derp
[23:04] <geniice> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr2piObWxm0 afgan rock
�08[23:05] <derp> booooooooooooooooooooobs?
[23:05] <TParis> I <3 boobs
�08[23:05] <derp> i <3 pecs.
[23:05] <TParis> I need a bumper sticker
�08[23:05] <derp> i hear boobies?
[23:05] <Moe_Epsilon> well latish redone finally has a support
[23:05] <TParis> my wife does too.  She tried photoshopping our couples pictures by putting pecs on me.
[23:05] <geniice> hmmp she's blond
[23:05] <Fluffernutter> boobs are just boobs, i don;t get what obsesses men about them
[23:05] <Steven_Zhang> I am hardly too young for boobs.
�08[23:05] <derp> Mellie?
[23:06] <Steven_Zhang> Logan_: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Latish_redone&diff=462052191&oldid=462051746
[23:06] <Fluffernutter> derp, so rude
[23:06] <Steven_Zhang> dude, we separated in 2008.
[23:06] <Steven_Zhang> you need to get over it :P
[23:06] <Logan_> Stelpa: hah
�08[23:06] * derp stills remembers it :P
[23:06] <SigmaWP> Who's Mellie
[23:06] <Logan_> Steven_Zhang, too.
[23:06] <Steven_Zhang> The user supported themself/
[23:06] <Moe_Epsilon> and said he/she
[23:06] <Moe_Epsilon> confused..
�08[23:06] <derp> SigmaWP, see privmsg :)
[23:06] <Logan_> Moe_Epsilon: Maybe s/he doesn't know his/her own gender.
[23:07] <TParis> I'm snowing that :(
[23:07] <TParis> if my browser doesnt freeze
[23:07] <Logan_> TParis: Well, snow is cold.
[23:07] <LL2|JedIRC> Fluffernutter: you're just jealous cause your ugly compared to famous females
[23:07] <LL2|JedIRC> :P
[23:07] <Fluffernutter> well yes
[23:07] <Moe_Epsilon> I have a strong suspicion that they would know their gender, call me crazy
[23:07] <Logan_> LL2|JedIRC: She's not jealous of your grammar.
[23:07] <Fluffernutter> i'm also jealous that i'm not 5'8"
�08[23:07] * derp takes Fluffernutter to shopping!
[23:07] <Fluffernutter> and that i'm not rich
[23:08] <geniice> LL2|JedIRC you make comments like that and you are still breathing? must have some seriously fast reaction times
[23:08] <LL2|JedIRC> Nice timing derp
[23:08] <Fluffernutter> lol geniice
�15[23:08] * erikhaugen (~erikhauge@wikipedia/ErikHaugen) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds�)
[23:08] <LL2|JedIRC> Yeah, I have nice reaction time, however...
[23:08] <LL2|JedIRC> I suck at running
[23:08] <LL2|JedIRC> ''FAIL''
[23:08] <Fluffernutter> yes
�15[23:09] * JurassicJon (~textual@d24-141-38-66.home.cgocable.net) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/�)
[23:10] <SigmaWP> Fascinating, a text IRC client
[23:11] <LL2|JedIRC> Lol
�15[23:11] * Falcorian (~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer�)
[23:12] <Moe_Epsilon> well there goes that RFA
[23:12] <Moe_Epsilon> and all the fun
[23:12] <Alpha_Quadrant> TParis: you beat me to the closure
�15[23:13] * DarkoNeko (~udontcare@wikipedia/darkoneko) Quit (Quit: Saigo no mori kara saisho no kouya he hakobarete yuku~�)
[23:13] <SigmaWP> Moe_Epsilon: Hey!
[23:13] <SigmaWP> TParis: Why, I was alughing
[23:13] <Moe_Epsilon> :p
�08[23:13] -> *Steven_Zhang* i just like to poke fun at you by bringing up painful memories :P
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[23:14] <SigmaWP> It was hilarious when he supported himself
[23:14] <Jeske_Merensky> Damn it, drop already, you fucking ratchet
�08[23:14] <derp> one potato, two potato
[23:15] <SigmaWP> TParis: You should've left it open for the full week
�08[23:15] <derp> Fluffernutter, potatoes
[23:15] <sonia> derp: mashed potatoes
�08[23:15] <derp> SigmaWP: my robot runs on pataters.
[23:15] <Fluffernutter> whut
�08[23:15] <derp> hash browns
[23:15] <SigmaWP> :D
�08[23:16] <derp> hush puppies?
[23:16] <Moe_Epsilon> that is not a potato sir
�15[23:16] * AzaToth (~azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth) Quit (Remote host closed the connection�)
�08[23:16] <derp> Fluffernutter, sweet potatoes?
[23:17] <Fluffernutter> nom
�06[23:17] * Fluffernutter loves sweet potatoes
�08[23:17] * derp also offers garlic to Fluffernutter
[23:18] <Fluffernutter> not on the sweet potatoes, plz
�08[23:18] <derp> i always put a shitload of garlic on my pasta :P
�06[23:18] * Crazynas calls Moe_Epsilon crazy
[23:18] <Mike_H> derp, I put melted cheese and gravy on my pasta
[23:19] <Mike_H> don't you?
[23:19] <Moe_Epsilon> >: aww
�08[23:19] <derp> Mike_H, try poutine :P
[23:19] <sonia> Mike_H: I put melted cheese and ketchup on mine
[23:19] <Fluffernutter> weiiiiiird
�08[23:19] <derp> french fries with fresh unripened cheese curds with gravy.
[23:19] <Crazynas> Moe_Epsilon: don't take it personally it's rather universal in my worldview
[23:20] <Moe_Epsilon> that I'm crazy? :p
[23:20] <Crazynas> that everyone is
[23:20] <Crazynas> :)
[23:20] <Crazynas> see username
[23:20] <Moe_Epsilon> ahh okay lol
[23:20] <Steven_Zhang> TParis: i see you closed it
[23:20] <Moe_Epsilon> well, I do believe some people fit the criteria for crazy more than others
[23:21] <Crazynas> yea, but it's a matter of degree
[23:21] <Crazynas> not a binary operation
[23:22] <TParis> Yeah, he withdrew moments later so meh
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[23:22] <SigmaWP> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
�03[23:22] * jsalz1 (~aeonic@c-98-221-132-116.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has left #wikipedia-en
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[23:23] <Steven_Zhang> Supporting yourself..lol
[23:23] <Logan_> delayed reaction much
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Session Start: Tue Nov 22 23:23:59 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
�03[23:23] * Now talking in #wikipedia-en
�03[23:23] * Topic is 'English Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/ | Status: Up (http://status.wikimedia.org/) | Channel guidelines: http://bit.ly/WP-IRC | Channel operator: Ask in #wikimedia-ops or say !ops followed by the request | For urgent admin help, say !admin followed by the request | No public logging | Cloak requests: http://bit.ly/IRCcloaks�'
�03[23:23] * Set by derp!~omg@bas7-montrealak-1128544932.dsl.bell.ca on Sun Oct 23 20:29:19
[23:24] #wikipedia-en url is http://en.wikipedia.org/
[23:24] <Crazynas> SigmaWP: wtf?
[23:24] <Crazynas> SigmaWP: wtf?
[23:24] <SigmaWP> ?
[23:24] <SigmaWP> ?
[23:24] <Logan_> bbq
[23:24] <Logan_> bbq
[23:24] <Moe_Epsilon> Crazynas: WP:CSD - Crazies for Speedy Ditching
[23:24] <Moe_Epsilon> Crazynas: WP:CSD - Crazies for Speedy Ditching
�08[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Fluffernutter
�08[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs sonia
�08[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Crazynas
�08[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs SigmaWP
�08[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Bsadowski1
�08[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Steven_Zhang
�08[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Mike_H
�08[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Moe_Epsilon
�08[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Alpha_Quadrant
�06[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Fluffernutter
�06[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs sonia
�06[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Crazynas
�06[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs SigmaWP
�06[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Bsadowski1
�06[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Steven_Zhang
�06[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Mike_H
Session Close: Tue Nov 22 23:25:10 2011
�06[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Moe_Epsilon
�06[23:25] * derpyfoo hugs Alpha_Quadrant
�15[23:25] * derpyfoo (~pink@2001:0:4137:9e76:2029:410:bcbb:c410) Quit (Remote host closed the connection�)
�06[23:25] * Crazynas reads random symbols from SigmaWP post 20:23
[23:25] <Steven_Zhang> i was the one who struck the vote
[23:25] <sonia> hugmob!
[23:25] <SigmaWP> Ah
�06[23:25] * SigmaWP hugs derp :D
[23:25] <Moe_Epsilon> I've been hugged
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�08[23:25] <derp> WHo wants more hugs?
�06[23:26] * Crazynas hugs derp
[23:26] <Steven_Zhang> TParis: lol... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TParis#rfa
[23:26] <Steven_Zhang> he wants his RFA reopened...
�06[23:26] * Steven_Zhang facepalsm
�06[23:26] * Steven_Zhang also facepalms
[23:26] <WilliamH_UK> I knew it
[23:26] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: Yay!
[23:26] <TParis> lol wut?
[23:26] <SigmaWP> More laughs
[23:26] <Steven_Zhang> yeah
[23:27] <SigmaWP> :D
[23:27] <SigmaWP> He's quite the jester
�06[23:27] * Crazynas thinks user meets Moe_Epsilon and Crazynas critera more then some others
[23:27] <Steven_Zhang> "My rfa was closed after less than three hours active. I would prefer that it remain open while some comments I have made have not effectively been received by the "!voters", and I also reply to further comments made. --l a t i s h r e d o n e (previously User:All in) 3:24 pm, Today (UTC+11)"
[23:27] <sonia> uhrm
[23:27] <WilliamH_UK> TParis - you undoing it
[23:27] <WilliamH_UK> ?
[23:27] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[23:27] <SigmaWP> TParis: Undo! :D
[23:27] <Moe_Epsilon> they are a glutton for punishment
[23:27] <Steven_Zhang> maybe they can make WP:100...100 opposes
�15[23:27] * mareklug (~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer�)
[23:27] <sonia> nah, it's too obviously not going to pass for it to be punishing
[23:28] <Steven_Zhang> or is WP:100 100 times something supported only
[23:28] <sonia> no one will bother piling on
[23:28] <Steven_Zhang> o rly?
[23:28] <WilliamH_UK> er sonia have you been to RFA lately
[23:28] <Moe_Epsilon> I'll oppose if it's re-opened
[23:28] <Moe_Epsilon> maybe I'm a dick
[23:28] <geniice> see this why we need a space program
�06[23:28] * Crazynas thinks it should be reopened for process sake
[23:28] <sonia> WilliamH_UK: to be fair, no.
[23:28] <geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PIA14405-full_crop.jpg w
[23:28] <Steven_Zhang> I got pile on opposes
[23:28] <geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PIA14405-full_crop.jpg
�08[23:28] * derp also forgot
[23:28] <Crazynas> and for the lolz
�08[23:28] * derp hugs Logan_
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[23:28] <geniice> we have got  get a better pic
[23:28] <TParis> I'm going to ask him to reconsider first
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�08[23:28] * derp hugs foks
�06[23:28] * Logan_ hugs derp
�08[23:28] * derp hugs mareklug
[23:28] <Steven_Zhang> Timotheus_Canens: good call with that block.
�08[23:28] * derp hugs geniice
[23:29] <sonia> Steven_Zhang: yeah but you actually had a chance of passing
[23:29] <Steven_Zhang> pah
[23:29] <Steven_Zhang> hardly
[23:29] <Alpha_Quadrant> Steven_Zhang: I wish you had left it open
[23:29] <Steven_Zhang> day 3 I had chance of passing
[23:29] <Steven_Zhang> day 5 it was doomed
[23:29] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[23:29] <Alpha_Quadrant> there was a chance it would turn around
[23:29] <WilliamH_UK> I think you were daft to close it
[23:29] <Steven_Zhang> dooooomed! dooomed
�15[23:29] * derp (~pink@wikimedia/Zalgo) Quit (Quit: bed <3�)
Session Close: Tue Nov 22 23:29:41 2011