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<p>It is important to distinguish between the two functions of a word:  1st to denote something &mdash; to stand for something, and 2nd to mean something &mdash; or as Mr. Mill phrases it &mdash; to ''connote'' something.</p>
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<p>What it denotes is called its ''Sphere''.  What it connotes is called its ''Content''.  Thus the ''sphere'' of the word ''man'' is for me every man I know;  and for each of you it is every man you know.  The ''content'' of ''man'' is all that we know of all men, as being two-legged, having souls, having language, &c., &c.</p>
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<p>(Peirce 1866, Lowell Lecture 7, CE 1, 459).</p>
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FAR. Factorization And Reification
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The question is:  What sort of thing is a connotation?  Is it a sign?  &mdash; that is to say, yet another term?  Or is it something like an abstract attribute &mdash; a character, intension, property, or quality? And while we're asking, does it really even matter?
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"No" is one answer worth considering.  But then:  Why does it not matter?  What reason could be given to excuse the indifference?
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FARNote 1
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This is a question that has exercised me since my earliest studies of PeirceI can remember discussing it with my philosophy mentor at the time and I distinctly recall having arrived at some conclusion or other &mdash; alas, I haven't the foggiest notion what exactly my revelation amounted to.
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These days, I usually try to finesse the trick under the trumped up rubric of a factorization.  So let me excavate my last attempts to explain this business and see if I can improve on them.
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Time for the First Clown to Exorcise his Exercise, One More Time ...
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==Factoring Functions==
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| It is important to distinguish between the two
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| functions of a word:  1st to denote something --
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| or as Mr. Mill phrases it -- to 'connote' something.
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| What it denotes is called its 'Sphere'.
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| What it connotes is called its 'Content'.
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| Thus the 'sphere' of the word 'man' is for me every man
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| I know;  and for each of you it is every man you know.
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| The 'content' of 'man' is all that we know of all men, as
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| being two-legged, having souls, having language, etc., etc.
   
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| C.S. Peirce, 'Chronological Edition', CE 1, p. 459
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<p>Things are equivocally named, when they have the name only in common, the definition (or statement of essence) corresponding with the name being different. For instance, while a man and a portrait can properly both be called "animals" [since the Greek ''zõon'' applies to both], these are equivocally named. For they have the name only in common, the definitions (or statements of essence) corresponding with the name being different.  For if you are asked to define what the being an animal means in the case of the man and the portrait, you give in either case a definition appropriate to that case alone.  (''Categories'', p. 13).</p>
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The question is:  What sort of thing is a connotation?
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<p>Aristotle, "The Categories", in ''Aristotle, Volume 1'', H.P. Cooke and H. Tredennick (trans.), Loeb Classics, William Heinemann Ltd, London, UK, 1938.</p>
Is it a sign?  That is to say, is it yet another term?
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Or is it something like an abstract attribute, namely,
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a character, an intension, a property, or a quality?
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And while we're asking, does it really even matter?
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"No" is one answer worth considering.
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I would like to introduce a concept that I find to be of use in discussing the problems of hypostatic abstraction, reification, the reality of universals, and the questions of choosing among nominalism, conceptualism, and realism, generally.
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What reason might be given that
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would excuse the indifference?
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This is a question that has exercised me since
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I will take this up first in the simplest possible setting, where it has to do with the special sorts of relations that are commonly called ''functions'', and after the basic idea is made as clear as possible in this easiest case I will deal with the notion of factorization as it affects more generic types of relations.
my earliest studies of Peirce.  I can remember
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discussing it with my philosophy mentor at the
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time and I distinctly recall having arrived at
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some conclusion or other, but, alas, I haven't
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the foggiest notion what exactly my revelation
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amounted to.  Perhaps that is all for the best,
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as the vagrancy of memory is frequently better
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than the vapidity of one's banalytic anamnesia.
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These days, I usually try to finesse the trick
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Picture an arbitrary function from a ''source'' or ''domain'' to a ''target'' or ''codomain''.  Here is a picture of such a function, <math>f : X \to Y,</math> as generic as it needs to be for our present purposes:
under the trumped up rubric of a factorization.
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So let me excavate my last attempts to explain
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this business and see if I can improve on them.
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| <math>\text{Figure 1.  Function}~ f : X \to Y</math>
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FAR.  Note 2
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It is a fact that any old function that you might pick factors into a composition of two other functions, a surjective ("onto") function and an injective ("one-to-one") function, in the present example as pictured below:
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| <math>\text{Figure 2.  Factorization}~ f = g \circ h</math>
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I would like to introduce a concept that I find to be of
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Writing functional compositions <math>f = g \circ h</math> "on the right", we have the following data about the situation:
use in discussing the problems of hypostatic abstraction,
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reification, the reality of universals, and the questions
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of choosing among nominalism, conceptualism, and realism,
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generally.
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I will take this up first in the simplest possible setting,
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where it has to do with the special sorts of relations that
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are commonly called "functions", and after the basic idea
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<math>\begin{array}{ccl}
is made as clear as possible in this easiest case I will
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X & = & \{ 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 \}
deal with the notion of "factorization" as it affects
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more generic types of relations.
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M & = & \{ m, n \}
 
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Picture an arbitrary function from a Source (Domain)
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Y & = & \{ p, q, r, s, t, u \}
to a Target (Co-domain).  Here is one picture of an
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f : X -> Y, just about as generic as it needs to be:
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f & : & X \to Y, ~\text{arbitrary}
 
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  Source X  =  {1, 2, 3, 4,    5}
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g & : & X \to M, ~\text{surjective}
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      f  |      \ | /    \  /
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h & : & M \to Y, ~\text{injective}
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          v      o  o  o  o  o  o
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f & = & g \circ h
  Target Y  = {A, B, C, D, E, F}
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\end{array}</math>
 
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Now, it is a fact that any old function that you might
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an injective ("one-to-one") function, in the present
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example just like so:
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  Medium M  =  {   b  ,    e  }
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Writing the functional compositions f = g o h "on the right",
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  f : X -> Y, arbitrary
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What does all of this have to do with reification and so on?
 
What does all of this have to do with reification and so on?
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Well, suppose that the Source domain X is a set of "objects",
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To begin answering that question, suppose that the source domain <math>X\!</math> is a set of ''objects'', that the target domain <math>Y\!</math> is a set of ''signs'', and suppose that the function <math>f : X \to Y</math> indicates the effect of a classification, conceptualization, discrimination, perception, or some other type of sorting operation, distributing the elements of the set <math>X\!</math> of objects and into a set of sorting bins that are labeled with the elements of the set <math>Y,\!</math> regarded as a set of classifiers, concepts, descriptors, percepts, or just plain signs, whether these signs are regarded as being in the mind, as with concepts, or whether they happen to be inscribed more publicly in another medium.
that the Target domain Y is a set of "signs", and suppose that
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the function f : X -> Y indicates the effect of a classification,
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conceptualization, discrimination, perception, or some other type
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of "sorting" operation, distributing the elements of the set X of
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objects and into a set of "sorting bins" that are labeled with the
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elements of the set Y, regarded as a set of classifiers, concepts,
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descriptors, percepts, or just plain signs, whether these signs
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they happen to be inscribed more publicly in another medium.
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In general, if we use the signs in the target domain <math>Y\!</math> to denote or describe the objects in the source domain <math>X,\!</math> then we are engaged in a form of ''general denotation'' or ''plural reference'' with regard to those objects, that is, each sign may refer to each of many objects, in a way that would normally be called ''ambiguous'' or ''equivocal''.
to reference the objects in the Source (Domain) X, then we will be
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a manner of "general reference" or a mode of "plural denotation",
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objects, in a way that would normally be called "ambiguous",
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"equivocal", "indefinite", "indiscriminate", and so on.
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Notice what I did not say here, that one sign denotes a ''set'' of objects, because I am for the moment conducting myself as such a dyed-in-the-wool nominal thinker that I hesitate even to admit so much as the existence of this thing we call a ''set'' into the graces of my formal ontology, though, of course, my casual speech is rife with the use of the word ''set'', and in a way that the nominal thinker, true-blue to the end, would probably be inclined or duty-bound to insist is a purely dispensable convenience.
because I am for the moment conducting myself as such a dyed-in-the-wool
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nominal thinker that I hesitate even to admit so much as the existence of
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this thing we call a "set" into the graces of my formal ontology, though,
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of course, my casual speech is rife with the use of the word "set", and
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in a way that the nominal thinker, true-blue to the end, would probably
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be inclined or duty-bound to insist is a purely dispensable convenience.
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In fact, the invocation of a new order of entities, whether you regard its typical enlistee as a class, a concept, a form, a general, an idea, an interpretant, a property, a set, a universal, or whatever you elect to call it, is tantamount exactly to taking this step that I just now called the ''factoring'' of the classification function into surjective and injective factors.
its typical enlistee as a class, a concept, a form, a general, an idea,
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an interpretant, a property, a set, a universal, or whatever you elect
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and injective factors.
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Observe, however, that this is where all the battles begin to break out,
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Observe, however, that this is where all the battles begin to break out, for not all factorizations are regarded with equal equanimity by folks who have divergent philosophical attitudes toward the creation of new entities, especially when they get around to asking:  ''In what domain or estate shall the multiplicity of newborn entities be lodged or yet come to reside on a permanent basis?'' Some factorizations enfold new orders of entities within the Object domain of a fundamental ontology, and some factorizations invoke new orders of entities within the Sign domains of concepts, data, interpretants, language, meaning, percepts, and sense in general.  Now, opting for the ''object'' choice of habitation would usually be taken as symptomatic of ''realist'' leanings, while opting out of the factorization altogether, or weakly conceding the purely expedient convenience of the ''sign'' choice for the status of the intermediate entities, would probably be taken as evidence of a ''nominalist'' persuasion.
for not all factorizations are regarded with equal equanimity by folks
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entities, especially when they get around to asking:  "In what domain
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or estate shall the multiplicity of newborn entities be lodged or yet
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come to reside on a permanent basis?" Some factorizations enfold new
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domains of concepts, data, interpretants, language, meaning, percepts,
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and "sense in general" (SIG).  Now, opting for the "Object" choice of
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habitation would usually be taken as symptomatic of "realist" leanings,
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while opting out of the factorization altogether, or weakly conceding
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==Factoring Sign Relations==
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Let us now apply the concepts of factorization and reification, as they are developed above, to the analysis of sign relations.
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Suppose we have a sign relation <math>L \subseteq O \times S \times I,</math> where <math>O\!</math> is the object domain, <math>S\!</math> is the sign domain, and <math>I\!</math> is the interpretant domain of the sign relation <math>L.\!</math>
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Now suppose that the situation with respect to the ''denotative component'' of <math>L,\!</math> in other words, the projection of <math>L\!</math> on the subspace <math>O \times S,</math> can be pictured in the following manner:
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The Figure depicts a situation where each of the three objects, <math>o_1, o_2, o_3,\!</math> has a ''proper name'' that denotes it alone, namely, the three proper names <math>s_1, s_2, s_3,\!</math> respectively.  Over and above the objects denoted by their proper names, there is the general sign <math>s,\!</math> which denotes any and all of the objects <math>o_1, o_2, o_3.\!</math>  This kind of sign is described as a ''general name'' or a ''plural term'', and its relation to its objects is a ''general reference'' or a ''plural denotation''.
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If you now ask, ''Is the object of the sign <math>s\!</math> one or many?'', the answer has to be ''many''.  That is, there is not one <math>o\!</math> that <math>s\!</math> denotes, but only the three <math>o\!</math>'s in the object space. Nominal thinkers would ask: ''Granted this, what need do we have really of more excess?'' The maxim of the nominal thinker is ''never read a general name as a name of a general'', meaning that we should never jump from the accidental circumstance of a plural sign <math>s\!</math> to the abnominal fact that a unit <math>o\!</math> exists.
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In actual practice this would be just one segment of a much larger sign relation, but let us continue to focus on just this one piece. The association of objects with signs is not in general a function, no matter which way, from <math>O\!</math> to <math>S\!</math> or from <math>S\!</math> to <math>O,\!</math> that we might try to read it, but very often one will choose to focus on a selection of links that do make up a function in one direction or the other.
x_1, x_2, x_3, has a "proper name" that denotes it alone,
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what need do we have really of more excess?"
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meaning that we should never jump from the
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accidental circumstance of a plural sign y
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to the abnominal fact that a unit x exists.
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In actual practice this would be just one segment of a much larger
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For example, the assignment of the general term <math>s\!</math> to each of the objects <math>o_1, o_2, o_3\!</math> is one such functional patch, piece, segment, or selection.  So this patch can be pictured according to the pattern that was previously observed, and thus transformed by means of a canonical factorization.
sign relation, but let us continue to focus on just this one piece.
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to read it, but very often one will choose to focus on a selection
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of links that do make up a function in one direction or the other.
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In our example of a sign relation, we had a functional subset of the following shape:
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{| align="center" cellpadding="8" style="text-align:center"
general term y to each of the objects x_1, x_2, x_3 is
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one such functional patch, piece, segment, or selection.
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So this patch can be pictured according to the pattern
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that was previously observed, and thus transformed by
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means of a canonical factorization.
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The function <math>f : O \to S</math> factors into a composition <math>g \circ h,\!</math> where <math>g : O \to M,</math> and <math>h : M \to S,</math> as shown here:
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{| align="center" cellpadding="8" style="text-align:center"
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It may be difficult at first to see how anything of significance could follow from an observation so facile as the fact that an arbitrary function factors into a surjective function followed by an injective function.  What it means is that there is no loss of generality in assuming that there is a domain of intermediate entities under which the objects of a general denotation or plural reference can be marshaled, just as if they had something more essential and more substantial in common than the shared attachment to a coincidental name.  So the problematic status of a hypostatic entity like <math>o\!</math> is reduced from a question of its nominal existence to a matter of its local habitation.  Is it more like an object or more like a sign?  One wonders why there has to be only these two categories, and why not just form up another, but that does not seem like playing the game to propose it.  At any rate, I will defer for now one other obvious possibility &mdash; obvious from the standpoint of the pragmatic theory of signs &mdash; the option of assigning the new concept, or mental symbol, to the role of an interpretant sign.
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If we force the factored annotation function, initially extracted from the sign relation <math>L,\!</math> back into the frame from whence it came, we get the augmented sign relation <math>L^\prime,\!</math> shown in the next Figure:
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{| align="center" cellpadding="8" style="text-align:center"
into a surjective ("onto") function followed
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by an injective ("one-one") function is such
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a deceptively trivial observation that I had
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| <math>\text{Figure 6.  Denotative Component of Sign Relation}~ L^\prime</math>
guessed that you would all wonder what in the
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heck, if anything, could possibly come of it.
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What it means is that, "without loss or gain of generality" (WOLOGOG),
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This amounts to the creation of a hypostatic object <math>o,\!</math> which affords us a singular denotation for the sign <math>s.\!</math>
we might as well assume that there is a domain of intermediate entities
  −
under which the objects of a general denotation can be marshalled, just
  −
as if they actually had something rather more essential and really more
  −
substantial in common than the shared attachment to a coincidental name.
  −
So the problematic status of a hypostatic entity like x is reduced from
  −
a question of its nominal existence to a matter of its local habitation.
  −
Is it very like a sign, or is it rather more like an object?  One wonders
  −
why there has to be only these two categories, and why not just form up
  −
another, but that does not seem like playing the game to propose it.
  −
At any rate, I will defer for now one other obvious possibility --
  −
obvious from the standpoint of the pragmatic theory of signs --
  −
the option of assigning the new concept, or mental symbol,
  −
to the role of an interpretant sign.
     −
If we force the factored annotation function,
+
By way of terminology, it would be convenient to have a general name for the transformation that converts a bare, ''nominal'' sign relation like <math>L\!</math> into a new, improved ''hypostatically augmented or extended'' sign relation like <math>L^\prime.</math>  Let us call this kind of transformation an ''objective extension'' or an ''outward extension'' of the underlying sign relation.
initially extracted from the sign relation L,
  −
back into the frame from whence it once came,
  −
we get the augmented sign relation L', shown
  −
in the next vignette:
     −
o-----------------------------o
+
This naturally raises the question of whether there is also an augmentation of sign relations that might be called an ''interpretive extension'' or an ''inward extension'' of the underlying sign relation, and this is the topic that I will take up next.
| Denotative Component of L' |
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|  Objects    |    Signs    |
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|                            |
  −
|                  o        |
  −
|                  /=        |
  −
|  x  o=o-------/-o  y    |
  −
|      ^^^      / /=        |
  −
|      '''     / / o        |
  −
|      '''   / / /          |
  −
|      '''  / / /          |
  −
|      '''  / / /            |
  −
|      ''' / / /            |
  −
|      '''/ / /              |
  −
|  x_1  ''o-/-/-----o  y_1    |
  −
|      '' / /                |
  −
|      ''/ /                |
  −
|  x_2  'o-/--------o  y_2    |
  −
|      ' /                  |
  −
|      '/                    |
  −
|  x_3  o-----------o  y_3    |
  −
|                            |
  −
o-----------------------------o
     −
This amounts to the creation of a hypostatic object x,
+
==Nominalism and Realism==
which affords us a singular denotation for the sign y.
     −
By way of terminology, it would be convenient to have
+
Let me now illustrate what I think that a lot of our controversies about nominalism versus realism actually boil down to in practice.  From a semiotic or a sign-theoretic point of view, it all begins with a case of ''plural reference'', which occurs when a sign <math>s\!</math> is taken to denote each object <math>o_j\!</math> in a collection of objects <math>\{ o_1, \ldots, o_k, \ldots \},</math> a situation whose general pattern is suggested by a sign-relational table of the following form:
a general name for the transformation that converts
  −
a bare "nominal" sign relation like L into a new,
  −
improved "hypostatically augmented or extended"
  −
sign relation like L'.
     −
I call this kind of transformation
+
<br>
an "objective extension" (OE) or
  −
an "outward extension" (OE) of
  −
the underlying sign relation.
     −
This naturally raises the question of
+
{| align="center" style="text-align:center; width:60%"
whether there is also an augmentation
+
|
of sign relations that might be called
+
{| align="center" style="text-align:center; width:100%"
an "interpretive extension" (IE) or
+
| <math>\text{Table 7.  Plural Denotation}\!</math>
an "inward extension" (IE) of
+
|}
the underlying sign relation,
+
|-
and this is the topic that
+
|
I will take up next.
+
{| align="center" border="1" cellpadding="8" cellspacing="0" style="background:#f8f8ff; text-align:center; width:100%"
 +
|- style="background:#f0f0ff"
 +
| width="33%" | <math>\text{Object}\!</math>
 +
| width="33%" | <math>\text{Sign}\!</math>
 +
| width="33%" | <math>\text{Interpretant}\!</math>
 +
|-
 +
|
 +
<math>\begin{matrix}
 +
o_1 \\ o_2 \\ o_3 \\ \ldots \\ o_k \\ \ldots
 +
\end{matrix}</math>
 +
|
 +
<math>\begin{matrix}
 +
s \\ s \\ s \\ \ldots \\ s \\ \ldots
 +
\end{matrix}</math>
 +
|
 +
<math>\begin{matrix}
 +
\ldots \\ \ldots \\ \ldots \\ \ldots \\ \ldots \\ \ldots
 +
\end{matrix}</math>
 +
|}
 +
|}
   −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
+
<br>
   −
FAR. Note 4
+
For example, consider the sign relation <math>L\!</math> whose sign relational triples are precisely as shown in Table&nbsp;8.
   −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
+
<br>
   −
Let me now illustrate what I think that a lot of our controversies
+
{| align="center" style="text-align:center; width:60%"
about nominalism versus realism actually boil down to in practice.
+
|
From a semiotic or a sign-theoretic point of view, it all begins
+
{| align="center" style="text-align:center; width:100%"
with a case of "plural reference", which happens when a sign y
+
| <math>\text{Table 8. Sign Relation}~ L</math>
is quite literally taken to denote each object x_j in a whole
+
|}
collection of objects {x_1, ..., x_k, ...}, a situation that
+
|-
can be represented in a sign-relational table like this one:
+
|
 +
{| align="center" border="1" cellpadding="8" cellspacing="0" style="background:#f8f8ff; text-align:center; width:100%"
 +
|- style="background:#f0f0ff"
 +
| width="33%" | <math>\text{Object}\!</math>
 +
| width="33%" | <math>\text{Sign}\!</math>
 +
| width="33%" | <math>\text{Interpretant}\!</math>
 +
|-
 +
|
 +
<math>\begin{matrix}
 +
o_1 \\ o_2 \\ o_3
 +
\end{matrix}</math>
 +
|
 +
<math>\begin{matrix}
 +
s \\ s \\ s
 +
\end{matrix}</math>
 +
|
 +
<math>\begin{matrix}
 +
\ldots \\ \ldots \\ \ldots
 +
\end{matrix}</math>
 +
|}
 +
|}
   −
o---------o---------o---------o
+
<br>
| Object  |  Sign  | Interp  |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
|  x_1  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
|  x_2  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
|  x_3  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
|  ...  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
|  x_k  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
|  ...  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
 
  −
For brevity, let us consider the sign relation L
  −
whose relational database table is precisely this:
  −
 
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
|      Sign Relation L      |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
| Object  |  Sign  | Interp  |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
|  x_1  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
|  x_2  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
|  x_3  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
      
For the moment, it does not matter what the interpretants are.
 
For the moment, it does not matter what the interpretants are.
   −
I would like to diagram this somewhat after the following fashion,
+
I would like to diagram this somewhat after the following fashion, here detailing just the denotative component of the sign relation, that is, the 2-adic relation that is obtained by "projecting out" the Object and Sign columns of the table.
here detailing just the denotative component of the sign relation,
  −
that is, the 2-adic relation that is obtained by "projecting out"
  −
the Object and the Sign columns of the table.
  −
 
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
| Denotative Component of L  |
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|  Objects    |    Signs    |
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|                            |
  −
|  x_1  o------>              |
  −
|              \            |
  −
|                \            |
  −
|  x_2  o------>--o  y        |
  −
|                /            |
  −
|              /            |
  −
|  x_3  o------>              |
  −
|                            |
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
 
  −
I would like to -- but my personal limitations in the
  −
Art of ASCII Hieroglyphics do not permit me to maintain
  −
this level of detail as the figures begin to ramify much
  −
beyond this level of complexity.  Therefore, let me use
  −
the following device to symbolize the same configuration:
     −
o-----------------------------o
+
{| align="center" cellpadding="8" style="text-align:center"
| Denotative Component of L  |
+
| [[Image:Factorization Sign Relation Piece 1.jpg|500px]]
o--------------o--------------o
+
|-
|   Objects    |    Signs    |
+
| <math>\text{Figure 9.  Denotative Component of Sign Relation}~ L</math>
o--------------o--------------o
+
|}
|                             |
  −
| o  o  o >>>>>>>>>>>> y    |
  −
|                             |
  −
o-----------------------------o
      
Notice the subtle distinction between these two cases:
 
Notice the subtle distinction between these two cases:
   −
  1.  A sign denotes each object in a set of objects.
+
# A sign denotes each object in a set of objects.
 
+
# A sign denotes a set of objects.
  2.  A sign denotes a set of objects.
  −
 
  −
The first option uses the notion of a set in a casual,
  −
informal, or metalinguistic way, and does not really
  −
commit us to the existence of sets in any formal way.
  −
This is the more razoresque choice, much less risky,
  −
ontologically speaking, and so we may adopt it as
  −
our "nominal" starting position.
  −
 
  −
Now, in this "plural denotative" component of the sign relation,
  −
we are looking at what may be seen as a functional relationship,
  −
in the sense that we have a piece of some function f : O -> S,
  −
such that f(x_1) = f(x_2) = f(x_3) = y, for example.  A function
  −
always admits of being factored into an "onto" (surjective) map
  −
followed by a "one-to-one" (injective) map, as discussed earlier.
  −
 
  −
But where do the intermediate entities go?  We could lodge them
  −
in a brand new space all their own, but Ockham the Innkeeper is
  −
right up there with Old Procrustes when it comes to the amenity
  −
of his accommodations, and so we feel compelled to at least try
  −
shoving them into one or another of the spaces already reserved.
  −
 
  −
In the rest of this discussion, let us assign the label "i" to
  −
the intermediate entity between the objects x_j and the sign y.
  −
 
  −
Now, should you annex i to the object domain O you will have
  −
instantly given yourself away as having "Realist" tendencies,
  −
and you might as well go ahead and call it an "Intension" or
  −
even an "Idea" of the grossly subtlest Platonic brand, since
  −
you are about to booted from Ockham's Establishment, and you
  −
might as well have the comforts of your Ideals in your exile.
  −
 
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
| Denotative Component of L'  |
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|  Objects    |    Signs    |
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|                            |
  −
|    i                      |
  −
|    /|\  *                  |
  −
|  / | \      *            |
  −
|  /  |  \          *        |
  −
| o  o  o >>>>>>>>>>>> y    |
  −
|                            |
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
 
  −
But if you assimilate i to the realm of signs S, you will
  −
be showing your inclination to remain within the straight
  −
and narrow of "Conceptualist" or even "Nominalist" dogmas,
  −
and you may read this "i" as standing for an intelligible
  −
concept, or an "idea" of the safely decapitalized, mental
  −
impression variety.
  −
 
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
| Denotative Component of L'' |
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|  Objects    |    Signs    |
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|                            |
  −
| o  o  o >>>>>>>>>>>> y    |
  −
|    .  .  .            '    |
  −
|        . . .          '    |
  −
|              ...      '    |
  −
|                  .    '    |
  −
|                      "i"  |
  −
|                            |
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
 
  −
But if you dare to be truly liberal, you might just find
  −
that you can easily afford to accommmodate the illusions
  −
of both of these types of intellectual inclinations, and
  −
after a while you begin to wonder how all of that mental
  −
or ontological downsizing got started in the first place.
  −
 
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
| Denotative Component of L'''|
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|  Objects    |    Signs    |
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|                            |
  −
|    i                      |
  −
|    /|\  *                  |
  −
|  / | \      *            |
  −
|  /  |  \          *        |
  −
| o  o  o >>>>>>>>>>>> y    |
  −
|    .  .  .            '    |
  −
|        . . .          '    |
  −
|              ...      '    |
  −
|                  .    '    |
  −
|                      "i"  |
  −
|                            |
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
 
  −
To sum up, we have recognized the perfectly innocuous utility
  −
of admitting the abstract intermediate object i, that may be
  −
interpreted as an intension, a property, or a quality that
  −
is held in common by all of the initial objects x_j that
  −
are plurally denoted by the sign y.  Further, it appears
  −
to be equally unexceptionable to allow the use of the
  −
sign "i" to denote this shared intension i.  Finally,
  −
all of this flexibility arises from a universally
  −
available construction, a type of compositional
  −
factorization, common to the functional parts
  −
of the 2-adic components of any relation.
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
FAR.  Note 5
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
 
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
FAR.  Note ???
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
The word "intension" has recently come to be stressed in our discussions.
  −
As I first learned this word from my reading of Leibniz, I shall take it
  −
to be nothing more than a synonym for "property" or "quality", and shall
  −
probably always associate it with the primes factorization of integers,
  −
the analogy between having a factor and having a property being one of
  −
the most striking, at least to my neo-pythagorean compleated mystical
  −
sensitivities, that Leibniz ever posed, and of which certain facets
  −
of Peirce's work can be taken as a further polishing up, if one is
  −
of a mind to do so.
  −
 
  −
As I dare not presume this to constitute the common acceptation
  −
of the term "intension", not without checking it out, at least,
  −
I will need to try and understand how others here understand
  −
the term and all of its various derivatives, thereby hoping
  −
to anticipate, that is to say, to evade or to intercept,
  −
a few of the brands of late-breaking misunderstandings
  −
that are so easy to find ourselves being surprised by,
  −
if one shies away from asking silly questions at the
  −
very first introduction of one of these parvenu words.
  −
I have been advised that it will probably be fruitless
  −
to ask direct questions of my informants in such a regard,
  −
but I do not see how else to catalyze the process of exposing
  −
the presumption that "it's just understood" when in fact it may
  −
be far from being so, and thus to clear the way for whatever real
  −
clarification might possibly be forthcoming, in the goodness of time.
  −
Just to be open, and patent, and completely above the metonymous board,
  −
I will lay out the paradigm that I myself bear in mind when I think about
  −
how I might place the locus and the sense of this term "intension", because
  −
I see the matter of where to lodge it in our logical logistic as being quite
  −
analogous to the issue of where to place those other i-words, namely, "idea",
  −
capitalized or not, "impresssion", "intelligible concept", and "interpretant".
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
Let me illustrate what I think that a lot of our controversies
  −
about nominalism versus realism actually boil down to in practice.
  −
From a semiotic or a sign-theoretic point of view, it all begins
  −
with a case of "plural reference", which happens when a sign 's'
  −
is quite literally taken to denote each object o<j> in a whole
  −
collection of objects {o<1>, ..., o<k>, ...}, a situation that
  −
I would normally represent in a sign-relational table like so:
  −
 
  −
      Object    Sign    Interp
  −
    o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
        o1        's'      ...
  −
        o2        's'      ...
  −
        o3        's'      ...
  −
    o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
For the moment, it does not matter what the interpretants are.
  −
 
  −
I would like to diagram this somewhat after the following fashion,
  −
here detailing just the denotative component of the sign relation,
  −
that is, the 2-adic relation that is obtained by "projecting out"
  −
the Object and the Sign columns of the table.
  −
 
  −
    o1 ------>
  −
              \
  −
              \
  −
    o2 ------>--@ 's'
  −
              /
  −
              /
  −
    o3 ------>
  −
 
  −
I would like to -- but my personal limitations in the
  −
Art of ASCII Hieroglyphics do not permit me to maintain
  −
this level of detail as the figures begin to ramify much
  −
beyond this level of complexity.  Therefore, let me use
  −
the following device to symbolize the same configuration:
  −
 
  −
    o  o  o >>>>>>>>>>>>> 's'
  −
 
  −
Notice the subtle distinction between these two cases:
  −
 
  −
1.  A sign denotes each object in a set of objects.
  −
 
  −
2.  A sign denotes a set of objects.
  −
 
  −
The first option uses the notion of a set in a casual,
  −
informal, or metalinguistic way, and does not really
  −
commit us to the existence of sets in any formal way.
  −
This is the more razoresque choice, much less risky,
  −
ontologically speaking, and so we may adopt it as
  −
our starting position.
  −
 
  −
Now, in this "plural denotative" component of the sign relation,
  −
we are looking at what may be seen as a functional relationship,
  −
in the sense that we ahve a piece of some function f : O -> S,
  −
such that f(o1) = f(o2) = f(o3) = 's', for example.  Functions
  −
always admit of factoring into an "onto" (no relation) map and
  −
then a one-one map, as we discussed what seems like an age ago.
  −
 
  −
But where do the intermediate entities go?  We could lodge them
  −
in a brand new space all their own, but Ockham the Innkeeper is
  −
right up there with Old Procrustes when it comes to the amenity
  −
of his accommodations, and so we feel compelled to at least try
  −
shoving them into one or another of the spaces already reserved.
  −
 
  −
In the rest of this discussion, let us give the name "i" to the
  −
intermediate entity between the objects o<j> and the sign 's'.
  −
 
  −
Now should you annex i to the object domain O, you will have
  −
instantly given yourself away as having "Realist" tendencies,
  −
and you might as well go ahead and call it an "intension" or
  −
even an "Idea" of the grossly subtlest Platonic brand, since
  −
you are about to booted from Ockham's Establishment, and you
  −
may as well have the comforts of your Ideals in your exhile.
  −
 
  −
        i
  −
      /|\  *
  −
      / | \      *
  −
    /  |  \          *
  −
    o  o  o >>>>>>>>>>>> "s"
  −
 
  −
But if you assimilate i to the realm of signs S, you will
  −
be showing your inclination to remain within the straight
  −
and narrow of "Conceptualist" or even "Nominalist" dogmas,
  −
and you may read this "i" as standing for an intelligible
  −
concept, or an "idea" of the safely decapitalized, mental
  −
impression variety.
  −
 
  −
    o  o  o >>>>>>>>>>>> "s"
  −
        .  .  .            |
  −
            . . .          |
  −
                  ...      |
  −
                      .    |
  −
                          "i"
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
FAR.  Factorization And Reification -- Discussion
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
FAR.  Discussion Note 1
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
JW = Jim Willgoose
  −
 
  −
Re: FAR 2.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/thread.html#2747
  −
In: FAR.    http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002748.html
  −
 
  −
JW: What does "middle m" do? It appears to simplify the object domain.
  −
    But to what end?  You could be a hardcore reductionist and allow full
  −
    reality to source and middle (providing middle m has a role).  Gaining
  −
    clarity doesn't compromise realism, even realism about sets (so long as
  −
    they can be identified).  One can even be a Platonic nominalist (demanding
  −
    that abstract objects be identified and individuated) and preserve a sense
  −
    of realism by arguing that the identity and individuating character of an
  −
    abstract object is independant of you, me etc.  This could be extended to
  −
    possible uses for middle m that have not been discovered.  There are a lot
  −
    of ways to hang on to ONE THING, champion reduction, and preserve realism.
  −
 
  −
I am here making use of a simple theorem from mathematical category theory,
  −
the fact that any function can be factored into a surjective part followed
  −
by an injective part, to provide the grounds for a compromise between some
  −
ancient philosophical combatants.  Of course, the more reductionist among
  −
those parties would no more warm up to the reality of functions than they
  −
take kindly to the existence of those abstract objects we call "sets",
  −
but that is neither here nor there.
  −
 
  −
Another point of the exercise was to examine the waffle room that we often
  −
find in regard to the "connotations" of signs, whether they are more like
  −
interpretant signs or more like intensions considered as abstract objects.
  −
I think that I have at least outlined a way that we can have our cake and
  −
eat it too.
  −
 
  −
The rest of your statements are very puzzling to me.
  −
I can only guess that you've never met any hardcore
  −
reductionists, as they certainly don't tolerate the
  −
existence of sets, considered as something over and
  −
above their individual elements.  And I have no way
  −
of conjuring up what a platonic nominalist might be.
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
FAR.  Discussion Note 2
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
 
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
FAR.  Discussion Note ?
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
JA = Jon Awbrey
  −
SR = Seth Russell
  −
 
  −
JA figured:
  −
 
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
| Denotative Component of L'" |
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|  Objects    |    Signs    |
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|                            |
  −
|    i                      |
  −
|    /|\  *                  |
  −
|  / | \      *            |
  −
|  /  |  \          *        |
  −
| o  o  o >>>>>>>>>>>> y    |
  −
|    .  .  .            '    |
  −
|        . . .          '    |
  −
|              ...      '    |
  −
|                  .    '    |
  −
|                      "i"  |
  −
|                            |
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
 
  −
SR: Your diagrams dont tell the whole story.
  −
 
  −
JA: No diagram, no form of representation, tells the "whole" story.
  −
    A representation becomes pretty useless if it tries to do that.
  −
 
  −
SR: .... here is the rest of the story all in one diagram.
  −
 
  −
SR: http://robustai.net/mentography/intensionExtension.gif
  −
 
  −
Seth,
  −
 
  −
Just off the bat, the arrows that are labeled "connotes",
  −
"extension of", "intension of", and "isa" seem off base.
  −
 
  −
Just some random notes:
  −
 
  −
y and "i" are both signs.
  −
 
  −
x_1, x_2, x_3, and i are all objects
  −
in the augmented sign relation L'''.
  −
 
  −
The intension (property, quality) i gets to be
  −
an "object of conduct, discussion, or thought"
  −
as soon as any agents (interpreters, observers)
  −
start to act, to talk, or to think in some way
  −
or another with regard to it.
  −
 
  −
Later, I will build separate hierarchies for the objects
  −
and for the syntactic entities (signs, interpretants).
  −
 
  −
I forget now, but I don't remember saying anything yet
  −
about interpretants in this example.  I will go check.
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
FAR.  Discussion Note ?
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
JA = Jon Awbrey
  −
SR = Seth Russell
  −
 
  −
JA glyped:
  −
 
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
| Denotative Component of L'" |
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|  Objects    |    Signs    |
  −
o--------------o--------------o
  −
|                            |
  −
|    i                      |
  −
|    /|\  *                  |
  −
|  / | \      *            |
  −
|  /  |  \          *        |
  −
| o  o  o >>>>>>>>>>>> y    |
  −
|    .  .  .            '    |
  −
|        . . .          '    |
  −
|              ...      '    |
  −
|                  .    '    |
  −
|                      "i"  |
  −
|                            |
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
 
  −
SR giffed:
  −
 
  −
http://robustai.net/mentography/intensionExtension.gif
  −
 
  −
JA: No diagram, no form of representation, tells the "whole" story.
  −
    A representation becomes pretty useless if it tries to do that.
  −
 
  −
SR: Point taken :)
  −
 
  −
JA: Just off the bat, the arrows that are labeled "connotes",
  −
    "extension of", "intension of", and "isa" seem off base.
  −
 
  −
SR: Why?
  −
 
  −
JA: Just some random notes:
  −
    y and "i" are both signs.
  −
 
  −
SR: You mean 'y' and 'i' , I presume.  And yes, I agree,
  −
    and my mentograph shows both of those things in the
  −
    context labeled signs.
  −
 
  −
No, let me explain ...
  −
 
  −
I'm trying to stay within what I'm able to say using
  −
just one level of quotation marks, so bear with me.
  −
To do any better in a truly systematic way requires
  −
the explicit introduction of "higher order" (HO)
  −
sign relations.  Maybe later.
  −
 
  −
I resort to analogy:
  −
 
  −
I am saying that y is a sign in S, much like the way I might say
  −
that k is an integer in J = {..., -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, ...}.
  −
 
  −
I am saying that "i" is a sign in S, much like the way I might say
  −
that |j| is an integer in J, where the vertical bars indicate the
  −
absolute value function -- this is just an example, it could have
  −
been any other functional value f(j).
  −
 
  −
The point is that once we have a sign domain S, for example,
  −
something like S = {"a", "b", "c", ... A", "B", "C", ...},
  −
then we can use the elements listed to talk about signs in S,
  −
or we can use other constant names and variable names to talk
  −
about the elements of S.  For example, I can ask you to think
  −
about a sign z such that z = "a", and so on.
  −
 
  −
JA: x_1, x_2, x_3, and i are all objects
  −
    in the augmented sign relation L'".
  −
 
  −
> Yes I agree and have shown them as such in the context labeled objects in
  −
> the mentograph.  I presume the 'sign relation L' to which you refer to is
  −
> all the arcs labeled 'connotes', 'denotes', and 'represents' in my diagram.
  −
> I may or may not have chosen correct words for these labels.  What words
  −
> would you choose?
  −
 
  −
Just for clarity, here is the tabular version
  −
of the twice augmented sign relation L'":
  −
 
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
|      Sign Relation L'"      |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
| Object  |  Sign  | Interp  |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
|    i    |  "i"  |  ...  |
  −
|  x_1  |  "i"  |  ...  |
  −
|  x_2  |  "i"  |  ...  |
  −
|  x_3  |  "i"  |  ...  |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
|    i    |    y    |  ...  |
  −
|  x_1  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
|  x_2  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
|  x_3  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
 
  −
Okay, this has gotten way too abstract for me!
  −
Let us back up and remember why we got into this
  −
in the first place.  It had to do with some of the
  −
hard cases of the ontology development process that
  −
I commonly think of as "inquiry", and especially the
  −
abductive generation of a new concept, hypothesis, or
  −
term, or what is very similar, the semeiosis/semitosis
  −
of some old such notion that has gotten too posh to be
  −
useful without undergoing some further distinctions or
  −
divisions in the over-extenuated mass of its extension.
  −
 
  −
Were you here when we were talking about metonymy?
  −
There is something about this that reminds of that.
  −
 
  −
Here is one old note I found:
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
Subj:  Re: Meaning-Preserving Translations
  −
Date:  Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:00:31 -0500
  −
From:  Jon Awbrey <jawbrey@oakland.edu>
  −
  To:  Stand Up Ontology <standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org>,
  −
      SemioCom <semiocom@listbot.com>
  −
  CC:  John F. Sowa <sowa@bestweb.net>,
  −
      Mary Keeler <mkeeler@u.washington.edu>
  −
 
  −
John F. Sowa wrote:
  −
>
  −
> Jon,
  −
>
  −
> Your quotation from Hugh T. is very helpful, because it
  −
> illustrates a universal principle of natural languages:
  −
>
  −
> > | It is worth noting in this connexion that the use of the words
  −
> > | 'oros' (bound or limit), 'akron' (extreme), and 'meson' (middle) to
  −
> > | describe the terms, and of 'diastema' (interval) as an alternative
  −
> > | to 'protasis' or premiss, suggests that Aristotle was accustomed to
  −
> > | employ some form of blackboard diagram, as it were, for the purpose
  −
> > | of illustration.  A premiss was probably represented by a line joining
  −
> > | the letters chosen to stand for the terms.  How quality and quantity
  −
> > | were indicated can only be conjectured.
  −
> > |
  −
> > | Hugh Tredennick,
  −
> > |"Introduction" to Aristotle's "Prior Analytics", page 184 in:
  −
> > |'Aristotle, Volume 1', Translated by H.P. Cooke & H. Tredennick,
  −
> > | Loeb Classical Library, William Heinemann, London, UK, 1938.
  −
>
  −
> This example illustrates a kind of "metonomy", which refers to
  −
> something by using a term (often more concrete or "diagrammatic")
  −
> to refer to something abstract.  This usage is common not only in
  −
> ordinary language, but also in the most formal of all sciences,
  −
> mathematics.  We use terms like "limit", "boundary", or "interval"
  −
> to refer to numbers, which are the entities denoted by numerals.
  −
> In fact, it is very rare for mathematicians to mention the
  −
> distinction between numbers and numerals explicitly, unless
  −
> they are talking about the actual syntax of decimal, binary,
  −
> or other representation.
  −
 
  −
Let me think.
  −
 
  −
Metonomy = "use of the name of one thing for that of another
  −
of which it is the attribute or with which it is associated --
  −
as in 'lands belonging to the crown'" (Webster's).
  −
 
  −
Accordingly, in this figure of metonymy, the term "crown" denotes
  −
what the term "regent" denotes by virtue of the fact that a crown
  −
is an associate or an attribute of a regent.
  −
 
  −
Apparently, we have a sign relation of the following form,
  −
in which the figure of metonymy is embodied by the triples
  −
of the form <o, s, i> in the lower four rows of the table:
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~~o
  −
| Object  |  Sign    | Interp  |
  −
o~~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~~o
  −
|          |          |          |
  −
| Crown    | "Crown"  | "Crown"  |
  −
|          |          |          |
  −
| Regent  | "Crown"  | "Crown"  |
  −
| Regent  | "Crown"  | "Regent" |
  −
| Regent  | "Regent" | "Crown"  |
  −
| Regent  | "Regent" | "Regent" |
  −
o~~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
This may be diagrammed as follows, with denotative arcs
  −
extending from signs to objects and with connotative arcs
  −
extending from signs to interpretant signs:
  −
 
  −
  Crown  = o1 <----- s1 = "Crown"
  −
                  / ^
  −
                  /  |
  −
                /  |
  −
                /    |
  −
              v    v
  −
  Regent = o2 <----- s2 = "Regent"
  −
 
  −
The projection of this sign relation on its SI-space forms an
  −
equivalence relation, a "semiotic equivalence relation" (SER),
  −
on the signs "Crown" and "Regent".  However, this SER does not
  −
constitute a "referential equivalence relation" (RER), because
  −
the parts of the associated partition of the syntactic domain,
  −
the union of S & I, do not faithfully represent the structure
  −
of the object domain O.
  −
 
  −
> I would interpret Aristotle's use of diagrammatic terms in
  −
> the same way I would interpret the use of the word "top"
  −
> to refer to the most general category of the ontology:
  −
> it refers explicitly to the place where the mark occurs
  −
> on the paper or blackboard, by metonomy to the word instance
  −
> written in that place, by further metonomy to the word type,
  −
> and by further metonomy to the concept expressed by that word.
  −
>
  −
> In programming languages, a related term is "coercion", which
  −
> refers to the automatic type conversion that takes place when
  −
> necessary:
  −
>
  −
>  - Integer to float:  In the expression, "2 + 3.75",
  −
>    the integer value of the numeral "2" is automatically
  −
>    converted (or "coerced") to float.
  −
>
  −
>  - Character string to numeric:  In some languages,
  −
>    arithmetic can be performed directly on numbers that
  −
>    are represented by character strings.  In "2.6 + '55'"
  −
>    the string '55' is coerced to the integer 55, which is
  −
>    then coerced to the floating-point value.
  −
>
  −
> Metonomy in natural language is extremely common and,
  −
> I would say, extremely valuable in general.  And I admit
  −
> that it can sometimes cause confusion.  But I would much
  −
> rather take advantage of metonomy in what I read, write,
  −
> and speak than to force myself and others to insert
  −
> "conversion" operators for every change of type.
  −
>
  −
> Bottom line:  I am willing to say "By 'top', I mean
  −
> the concept expressed by the mark that occurs at the
  −
> top of the type lattice."  But I'm only going to say
  −
> that once.  From then on, I would just say "top".
  −
>
  −
> > ...  The more pertinent question,
  −
> > from the standpoint of a pragmatic theory of signs is:
  −
> > "Exactly what roles does the given thing play within
  −
> > a given moment (= elementary relation = triple) of
  −
> > the relevant sign relation?"  So, of course, signs
  −
> > can be objects -- no sooner do we talk about them
  −
> > than they become objects of discussion, if others
  −
> > would say "potential objects" (PO's), reserving
  −
> > the honorific title "object" for the PO of some
  −
> > consistent style of discussion and predication.
  −
>
  −
> Yes, such analysis can be valuable.  But once the analysis
  −
> has been done, I would go back to using language the way it
  −
> has always been used:  take advantage of metonomy whenever
  −
> it makes the expression more concise.
  −
 
  −
Sadly, until our computers get to understand the way we talk,
  −
with all of these figures of speech, metaphor, metonymy, and
  −
many more, somebody will have to do the dirty job of getting
  −
them to grok it.
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
Okay, let's compare and contrast:
  −
 
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
| Object  |  Sign  | Interp  |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
|        |        |        |
  −
| crown  | "crown" | "crown" |
  −
|        |        |        |
  −
| regent  | "crown" | "crown" |
  −
| regent  | "crown" | "regent"|
  −
| regent  | "regent"| "crown" |
  −
| regent  | "regent"| "regent"|
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
 
  −
o-----------------------------o
  −
|      Sign Relation L'"      |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
| Object  |  Sign  | Interp  |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
|    i    |  "i"  |  ...  |
  −
|  x_1  |  "i"  |  ...  |
  −
|  x_2  |  "i"  |  ...  |
  −
|  x_3  |  "i"  |  ...  |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
|    i    |    y    |  ...  |
  −
|  x_1  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
|  x_2  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
|  x_3  |    y    |  ...  |
  −
o---------o---------o---------o
  −
 
  −
What's similar is this.  Signs are typically used in highly
  −
ambiguous, equivocal, non-deterministic ways, and there is
  −
just no substitute for intelligent interpreters, humane or
  −
otherwise, when it gets down to the brass syntax of trying
  −
to pin down the meaning of a text.  The way that metonymy
  −
works is that when you hear the word "crown", not knowing
  −
if it is capitalized or not, you have to decide whether
  −
it literally means a crown, or whether it figuratively
  −
means a regent.  In the literal case, you are taking
  −
the word at its word and assigning it to a semantic
  −
equivalence class with other words that are used
  −
to denote physical crowns.  In the figurative
  −
case, you are associating the word to a very
  −
different sort of semantic equivalence class.
  −
 
  −
I need to break here and think about that a while.
  −
 
  −
JA: The intension (property, quality) i gets to be
  −
    an "object of conduct, discussion, or thought"
  −
    as soon as any agents (interpreters, observers)
  −
    start to act, to talk, or to think in some way
  −
    or another with regard to it.
  −
 
  −
SR: Yes, absolutely ... this is not as yet in that graph.
  −
    However I did make a stab in that direction in both
  −
    of the mentographs:
  −
 
  −
    http://robustai.net/mentography/Tarskian3.gif and
  −
    http://robustai.net/mentography/AnnBobYouI.gif
  −
 
  −
    ... which shows the perdicament broken
  −
    into the contexts of different agents.
  −
 
  −
JA: Later, I will build separate hierarchies for the objects
  −
    and for the syntactic entities (signs, interpretants).
  −
 
  −
SR: ... looking forward to it.
  −
 
  −
JA: I forget now, but I don't remember saying anything yet
  −
    about interpretants in this example.  I will go check.
  −
 
  −
SR: You probably did not, yet I cannot in good conscience
  −
    mentograph a sign relation leaving out one of the triads.
  −
 
  −
SR: ... thanks for the dialogue.
  −
 
  −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
  −
 
  −
FAR.  Discussion Note ?
     −
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
+
The first option uses the notion of a set in a casual, informal, or metalinguistic way, and does not really commit us to the existence of sets in any formal way.  This is the more razoresque choice, much less risky, ontologically speaking, and so we may adopt it as our "nominal" starting position.
   −
JA = Jon Awbrey
+
In this ''plural denotative'' component of the sign relation, we are looking at what may be seen as a functional relationship, in the sense that we have a piece of some function <math>f : O \to S,</math> such that <math>f(o_1) =\!</math> <math>f(o_2) =\!</math> <math>f(o_3) = s,\!</math> for example.  A function always admits of being factored into an "onto" (surjective) map followed by a "one-to-one" (injective) map, as discussed earlier.
SR = Seth Russell
     −
Seth,
+
But where do the intermediate entities go?  We could lodge them in a brand new space all their own, but Ockham the Innkeeper is right up there with Old Procrustes when it comes to the amenity of his accommodations, and so we feel compelled to at least try shoving them into one or another of the spaces already reserved.
   −
Let me try to come up with a more concrete version
+
In the rest of this discussion, let us assign the label <math>{}^{\backprime\backprime} i \, {}^{\prime\prime}</math> to the intermediate entity between the objects <math>o_j\!</math> and the sign <math>s.\!</math>
that has the same structure as the present example.
  −
Then I'll go back and try to answer your questions.
     −
JA glyphed:
+
Now, should you annex <math>i\!</math> to the object domain <math>O\!</math> you will have instantly given yourself away as having ''realist'' tendencies, and you might as well go ahead and call it an ''intension'' or even an ''Idea'' of the grossly subtlest Platonic brand, since you are about to booted from Ockham's Establishment, and you might as well have the comforts of your ideals in your exile.
   −
o-----------------------------o
+
{| align="center" cellpadding="8" style="text-align:center"
| Denotative Component of L'" |
+
| [[Image:Factorization Sign Relation 3.jpg|500px]]
o--------------o--------------o
+
|-
|   Objects    |   Signs    |
+
| <math>\text{Figure 10.  Denotative Component of Sign Relation}~ L^\prime</math>
o--------------o--------------o
+
|}
|                             |
  −
|    i                      |
  −
|    /|\   *                  |
  −
|  / | \       *            |
  −
/ |  \          *        |
  −
| o  o  o >>>>>>>>>>>> y    |
  −
|    .  .  .            '    |
  −
|        . . .          '    |
  −
|             ...      '    |
  −
|                  .    '    |
  −
|                      "i"  |
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SR giffed:
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But if you assimilate <math>i\!</math> to the realm of signs <math>S,\!</math> you will be showing your inclination to remain within the straight and narrow of ''conceptualist'' or even ''nominalist'' dogmas, and you may regard the intermediate entity <math>i\!</math> as an intelligible concept, or an ''idea'' of the safely decapitalized, mental impression variety.
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http://robustai.net/mentography/intensionExtension.gif
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{| align="center" cellpadding="8" style="text-align:center"
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| <math>\text{Figure 11. Denotative Component of Sign Relation}~ L^{\prime\prime}</math>
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The initial problem had to do with "nominal" thinking versus "real" thinking.
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But if you dare to be truly liberal, you might just find that you can easily afford to accommodate both intellectual inclinations, and after a while you begin to wonder how all that mental or ontological downsizing got started in the first place.
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A.  Some maxims of nominal thinking are:
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{| align="center" cellpadding="8" style="text-align:center"
 
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    1.  "Do not confuse a general name with the name of a general." (Goodman, I think).
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        In other words: Just because we find it useful to employ general, plural, or
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| <math>\text{Figure 12. Denotative Component of Sign Relation}~ L^{\prime\prime\prime}</math>
        universal terms, that does not mean that there is any such thing as a general
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        property, a plurality such as a set, a universal form or a platonic idea that
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        we are thus talking about, or thereby denoting by means of this general term.
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        In the way that folks used to talk, the practice of really believing in such
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        entities would have been criticized as "reifying an adjective" and so on.
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    2. Short versions:
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To sum up, we have recognized the perfectly innocuous utility of admitting the abstract intermediate object <math>i_o,\!</math> that may be interpreted as an intension, a property, or a quality that is held in common by all of the initial objects <math>o_j\!</math> that are plurally denoted by the sign <math>s.\!</math>  Further, it appears to be equally unexceptionable to allow the use of the sign <math>{}^{\backprime\backprime} s \, {}^{\prime\prime}</math> to denote this shared intension <math>i_o.\!</math>  Finally, all of this flexibility arises from a universally available construction, a type of compositional factorization, common to the functional parts of the 2-adic components of any relation.
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        a.  "Generals are mere names."
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==Document History==
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        b.  "Universals are merely signs."
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B.  The real thinker does not see the harm in supposing the existence of objects
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===Nov 2000 &mdash; Factorization Issues===
    of thought like abstractions, categories, generalities, intensions, properties,
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    qualities, universals, platonic ideas, and so on.
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Where I came in, I was trying to explore the conditions under which
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'''Standard Upper Ontology'''
it really does appear to be perfectly harmless to talk as if we were
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really talking about such things, and so I picked up the classical
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notions of "general denotation" and "plural reference", examined
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their analogy to function application, and then observed that
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the canonical factorization of functions permits us to invoke
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a realm of intermediate entities without having to wring our
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hands in ontological anxiety about it.  That was Phase One.
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Phase Two was more tentative and tenuous, trying to shove
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these intermediate entities into one or the other or both
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of the established domains, namely, objects and/or signs.
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In mathematics, they usually do not bother with this,
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but just refer to the equivalence classes explicitly.
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Maybe that will turn out to be the best way after all.
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Let's try this:
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* http://suo.ieee.org/email/thrd224.html#02332
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02332.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02334.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02338.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02340.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02345.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02349.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02355.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02396.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02400.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02430.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02448.html
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'''Ontology List'''
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x_2  =  cat_2
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* http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/thrd111.html#00007
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# http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg00007.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg00025.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg00032.html
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x_3  = cat_3
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===Mar 2001 &mdash; Factorization Flip-Flop===
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Options:
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'''Ontology List'''
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1. y  =  "Cat", interpreted as denoting each item of a category.
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* http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/thrd71.html#01926
          This is the nominal way of interpreting general terms,
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# http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg01926.html
          namely, as applying to each separate member of a group,
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# http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg02008.html
          but without having to posit the group as a whole or
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          any of its qualities as separately existing entities.
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          The nominal option is not to augment the sign relation,
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'''Standard Upper Ontology'''
          but just keep trying to get by with multiple referents.
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2. y  =  "Cat", interpreted as denoting a category of items.
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* http://suo.ieee.org/email/thrd184.html#04334
          Here, one is asserting that a category is an object
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg04334.html
          in its own right, over and above its items.
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg04416.html
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          Here, object i is a new entity like a class or a set.
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===Apr 2001 &mdash; Factorization Flip-Flop===
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3. y  =  "Catitude", interpreted as denoting a quality that is
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* http://stderr.org/pipermail/arisbe/2001-April/thread.html#408
          possessed in common or shared by cat_1, cat_2, cat_3.
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# http://stderr.org/pipermail/arisbe/2001-April/000408.html
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          Here, object i is a new entity like an intension or a property.
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===Sep 2001 &mdash; Descartes' Factorization===
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So, in general, it can happen that a use of the string of char "Cat"
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'''Arisbe List'''
may denote a particular cat, a category of cats, or a catitudiosity.
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o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
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* http://stderr.org/pipermail/arisbe/2001-September/thread.html#1053
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# http://stderr.org/pipermail/arisbe/2001-September/001053.html
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FI.  Factorization Issues
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'''Ontology List'''
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02332.html
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* http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/thrd44.html#03285
http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02334.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg03285.html
http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02338.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02340.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02345.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02349.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02355.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02396.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02400.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02430.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg02448.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg04334.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg04416.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg07143.html
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===Nov 2001 &mdash; Factorization Issues===
http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg07166.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg07182.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg07185.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg07186.html
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http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg00007.html
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* http://suo.ieee.org/email/thrd128.html#07143
http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg00025.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg07143.html
http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg00032.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg07166.html
http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg01926.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg07182.html
http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg02008.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg07185.html
http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg03285.html
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# http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg07186.html
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o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
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===Mar 2005 &mdash; Factorization Issues===
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FAR. Factorization And Reification -- 2005
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* http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-March/thread.html#2495
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# http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-March/002495.html
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# http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-March/002496.html
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00.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/thread.html#2747
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===May 2005 &mdash; Factorization And Reification===
01.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002747.html
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02.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002748.html
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03.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002749.html
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04.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002751.html
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05.
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FAR. Factorization And Reification -- Discussion
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* http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/thread.html#2747
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# http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002747.html
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# http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002748.html
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# http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002749.html
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# http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002751.html
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00.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/thread.html#2758
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===May 2005 &mdash; Factorization And Reification : Discussion===
01.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002758.html
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02.
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o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
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* http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/thread.html#2758
</pre>
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# http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002758.html
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