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# The ownership and management of the new forum should all be self-identifying persons with legitimate biographies that map to real-world authenticity. | # The ownership and management of the new forum should all be self-identifying persons with legitimate biographies that map to real-world authenticity. | ||
+ | # The targeted audience of the new forum would be journalists who write in the area of technology and media, academics who research these subjects and the general public. Many of those in the targeted audience would probably not have an understanding of the inner working of Wikipedia policy and of the "jargon" generally used there. | ||
# Topical discussions need not be limited to Wikipedia. We can discuss all matter of social, political, commercial, and academic consequences of any of the following: | # Topical discussions need not be limited to Wikipedia. We can discuss all matter of social, political, commercial, and academic consequences of any of the following: | ||
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#* Anonymity and Privacy on the Internet | #* Anonymity and Privacy on the Internet | ||
# Participants in the discussion may elect to do so from behind a pseudonymous cloak, but they will be advised that their opinions and status as participants shall carry less "cachet" (clout, gravitas, etc.) than those who self-identify and participate transparently. | # Participants in the discussion may elect to do so from behind a pseudonymous cloak, but they will be advised that their opinions and status as participants shall carry less "cachet" (clout, gravitas, etc.) than those who self-identify and participate transparently. | ||
+ | # Emphasis would be on neutral, objective criticism of the issues described above using ethical journalistic practice in order to describe documented situations involving these issues, with as little discussion of "WikiDrama" and interpersonal issues as possible. However, it might be necessary to discuss individual editors of Wikipedia in specific situations, such as Conflict of interest issues. | ||
==Format== | ==Format== |
Revision as of 08:42, 9 October 2008
Consider that Wikipedia Review is now, according to a number of participants there, suffering from various problems of anonymous management and community composition (an influx of Wikipedia apologists). Now may be an opportune time to establish a new forum for discussion of similar matters as posed by Wikipedia Review, but with various improvements.
Let this page serve as a discussion place for this new possibility.
Founding principles
- The ownership and management of the new forum should all be self-identifying persons with legitimate biographies that map to real-world authenticity.
- The targeted audience of the new forum would be journalists who write in the area of technology and media, academics who research these subjects and the general public. Many of those in the targeted audience would probably not have an understanding of the inner working of Wikipedia policy and of the "jargon" generally used there.
- Topical discussions need not be limited to Wikipedia. We can discuss all matter of social, political, commercial, and academic consequences of any of the following:
- Crowdsourcing
- Free licenses, the "Free culture movement" and copyright issues
- Wikis
- Section 230 considerations
- Anonymity and Privacy on the Internet
- Participants in the discussion may elect to do so from behind a pseudonymous cloak, but they will be advised that their opinions and status as participants shall carry less "cachet" (clout, gravitas, etc.) than those who self-identify and participate transparently.
- Emphasis would be on neutral, objective criticism of the issues described above using ethical journalistic practice in order to describe documented situations involving these issues, with as little discussion of "WikiDrama" and interpersonal issues as possible. However, it might be necessary to discuss individual editors of Wikipedia in specific situations, such as Conflict of interest issues.
Format
Which format would be most suitable for this new forum? Would it be possible to have both formats? If so, what would be more appropriate to have as the site's major format?
Message board
- Pros
- Fluid discussions between members
- More directly participative than a wiki, as each party may express their side without having to include the concepts already presented.
- Cons
- Derailment of threads
- Appears amateur
- More likely to cause conflict, especially between "problem" users
Wiki
- Pros
- Output is inherently more "polished" and "reasoned" than a message board
- The content is more immediately usable for journalists, academics and media professionals.
- Cons
- Discussion between parties gets lost in "consensus" of page
- Using the same format as that of the subject that one is trying to describe may not be a valid way of producing analysis, especially if the same core principles (ie NPOV, "consensus") are used. It's perhaps important to "think outside the of box".
Name ideas
What might we call this site?
- Criticism of Crowdsourcing
- Wrongs of the Internet
- Rethinking Free Culture
- Wikipedia Analysis (attn: Wikipedia is copyrighted. Can we use this name? ) or WikiAnalysis
- WikiReader (Americans will remember the "Weekly Reader" from Grade school...although this might not work for an international audience)
One of the reasons that "The Wikipedia Review" has been so successful as a concept is that the name is precise, yet neutral. A successful name will most likely have a neutral, objective(perhaps scientific), element which will not necessarily be seen as being negative towards the subject. It is perhaps more effective to try to remain objective in our criticism, as to let the objective evidence speak for itself.
Reserved domain names
- WikipediaMustDie.com
- GregoryKohs.com
- MimboJimbo.com
- MyWikiBiz.com