Changes

Wikipedia itself has over the years become a gathering place for individuals with '''extreme views''' when it comes to topics dealing with Nationalism. There is no other place this is more visible than in the [[Croatia|Croatian]] articles on Wikipedia.

Wikipedia itself has over the years become a gathering place for individuals with '''extreme views''' when it comes to topics dealing with Nationalism. There is no other place this is more visible than in the [[Croatia|Croatian]] articles on Wikipedia.

For many, Wikipedia has become the first port of call for information about anything and everything. With this in mind a crafty group of clever individuals can very easily manipulate historic information for their own '''Nationalistic agendas'''! Judging by the last year of edits on the articles about Croatia, they are pretty much written from a '''dated''' point of view of the former [[Communists|Communist]] Yugoslavia. Communist Yugoslav nationalistic history is all but forgotten in the West. It was the regimes policy to create a uniform state rather than a collective of peoples. The policy was one of the great historic failures of recent times. In essence Yugoslavia was a contradiction, on one hand it had the slogan ''Brotherhood and Unity'' <ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=ZK2WE_2H3UEC&pg=PA169&dq=Identity+politics+in+the+age+of+genocide:+the+Holocaust+and+historical+brother+hood+and+unity&hl=en&ei=CIWWTZKiK8SecJT3gJ0H&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Identity Politics in the Age of Genocide:] The Holocaust and Historical Representation ''by'' David Bruce MacDonald (p169)</ref><ref> ''Brotherhood and Unity''  was originally a policy of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia</ref> and on the other hand it executed Stalinist policies from the 1940s to the 1960s.  Other Nationalistic conflicts within Wikipedia that are related to the Croatian region are based on ''ethnicity'' (i.e. Croatian, Serbian and Italian).

For many, Wikipedia has become the first port of call for information about anything and everything. With this in mind a crafty group of clever individuals can very easily manipulate historic information for their own '''Nationalistic agendas'''!  

 

 

Judging by the last year of edits on the articles about Croatia, they are pretty much written from a '''dated''' point of view of the former [[Communists|Communist]] Yugoslavia. Communist Yugoslav nationalistic history is all but forgotten in the West. It was the regimes policy to create a uniform state rather than a collective of peoples. The policy was one of the great historic failures of recent times. In essence Yugoslavia was a contradiction, on one hand it had the slogan ''Brotherhood and Unity'' <ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=ZK2WE_2H3UEC&pg=PA169&dq=Identity+politics+in+the+age+of+genocide:+the+Holocaust+and+historical+brother+hood+and+unity&hl=en&ei=CIWWTZKiK8SecJT3gJ0H&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Identity Politics in the Age of Genocide:] The Holocaust and Historical Representation ''by'' David Bruce MacDonald (p169)</ref><ref> ''Brotherhood and Unity''  was originally a policy of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia</ref> and on the other hand it executed Stalinist policies from the 1940s to the 1960s.  Other Nationalistic conflicts within Wikipedia that are related to the Croatian region are based on ''ethnicity'' (i.e. Croatian, Serbian, Albania and Italian).

'''Now''' thanks to the Internet, this pseudo historical perspective that once was known only to Tito's Yugoslavia, has gone World Wide. This is truly disturbing because the former communist Yugoslavia encompassed peoples descendant of the Roman Empire, Republic of Venice, Republic of Ragusa (Dubrovnik), Croatia, Slovenia, Serbia, Bosnia and others.

'''Now''' thanks to the Internet, this pseudo historical perspective that once was known only to Tito's Yugoslavia, has gone World Wide. This is truly disturbing because the former communist Yugoslavia encompassed peoples descendant of the Roman Empire, Republic of Venice, Republic of Ragusa (Dubrovnik), Croatia, Slovenia, Serbia, Bosnia and others.

'''Note''': Communist Yugoslavia executed Historian - ''Kerubin Segvic''. He was executed mainly for proposing a different historic model than that of Yugoslav regime state policies of Croatians arriving in the Western Balkans.<ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=6UbOtJcF8rQC&pg=PA20&dq=Kerubin+Segvic+Becoming+Slav,+Becoming+Croat:+Identity+Transformations+in+Post-Roman&hl=en&ei=ITrwTP7nLsW3cO_RwJYK&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Becoming Slav, Becoming Croat:] Identity Transformations in Post-Roman and Early Medieval Dalmatia by Danijel Dzino (p20)</ref>  

'''Note''': Communist Yugoslavia executed Historian - ''Kerubin Segvic''. He was executed mainly for proposing a different historic model than that of Yugoslav regime state policies of Croatians arriving in the Western Balkans.<ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=6UbOtJcF8rQC&pg=PA20&dq=Kerubin+Segvic+Becoming+Slav,+Becoming+Croat:+Identity+Transformations+in+Post-Roman&hl=en&ei=ITrwTP7nLsW3cO_RwJYK&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Becoming Slav, Becoming Croat:] Identity Transformations in Post-Roman and Early Medieval Dalmatia by Danijel Dzino (p20)</ref>  

== Concerns over Dalmatian Articles (other Croatian articles too) and Wikipedia ==

== Concerns over Dalmatian Articles (& other Croatian articles too) and Wikipedia ==

It appears that Wikipedia has problems interpreting the multicultural and multiethnic history of the Dalmatian region.  There is a strong culture of editing bias that seems to prevail. This results in articles that reflect ''points of view'' rather being encyclopaedic.  

It appears that Wikipedia has problems interpreting the multicultural and multiethnic history of the Dalmatian region.  There is a strong culture of editing bias that seems to prevail. This results in articles that reflect ''points of view'' rather being encyclopaedic.  

{{Cquote|''The problem becomes particularly acute in a place like [[Wikipedia]], where the only intellectual interest - that is to say, no intellectual interest at all - lies simply in a nationalistic dispute, in this case between [[Italy|Italians]] and Croatians.''}}  

{{Cquote|''The problem becomes particularly acute in a place like [[Wikipedia]], where the only intellectual interest - that is to say, no intellectual interest at all - lies simply in a nationalistic dispute, in this case between [[Italy|Italians]] and Croatians.''}}  

*[http://ocham.blogspot.com/2010/07/francesco-patrizi.html BEYOND NECESSITY-Francesco Patrizi'' link'']

*[http://ocham.blogspot.com/2010/07/francesco-patrizi.html BEYOND NECESSITY-Francesco Patrizi'' '''Link''''']

====Venetian Albania====

====Venetian Albania====

Another article to mention is ''Venetian Albania'' <ref>{{cite web|url=http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Albania|title=Venetian Albania, 2011.Tue. 22 Feb. 2011. |date=[[2011]]|accessdate=2011-02-22}}</ref> (it is also related to the Republic of Venice.) Here is an editor's response to some very simple basic historic facts concerning the Republic of Venice and Venetian Albania: {{Cquote|''This is without even going into the controversial nature of the very biased and unbalanced depiction of history''}}

Another article to mention is ''Venetian Albania'' <ref>{{cite web|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Albania|title=Venetian Albania, 2011.Tue. 22 Feb. 2011. |date=[[2011]]|accessdate=2011-02-22}}</ref> (it is also related to the Republic of Venice.) Here is an Editor's response to some very simple basic historic facts concerning the Republic of Venice and Venetian Albania: {{Cquote|''This is without even going into the controversial nature of the very biased and unbalanced depiction of history...'' By DIREKTOR 22 February 2011 <ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Venetian_Albania#Article_scope Venetian Albania] Talk:Venetian Albania-Article scope </ref>}}

This is typical standard Wikipedian rhetoric spin. The language can be also interpreted as a facade for other editors who are not educated in the topic at hand. Also the statement is there to create a problem where in fact there isn't an issue here at all other than that of Nationalistic extremism.

This is typical standard Wikipedian rhetoric '''spin'''. The language can be also interpreted as a facade for other editors who are not educated in the topic at hand. Also the statement is there to create a problem where in fact there isn't an issue here at all other than that of Nationalistic extremism.

* A Wikipedian Editor's observation on Yugoslav Nationalistic editing and Wikipedia Admin:

* A Wikipedian Editor's observation on Yugoslav Nationalistic editing and Wikipedia Admin:

== The Dalmatian Italians Article ==

== The Dalmatian Italians Article ==

He is other example of '''cultural genocide''' on Wikipedia the free encyclopaedia. The historic information below was deleted because it did not reflect the '''dated''' point of view of the former [[Communists|Communist]] Yugoslavia. According to Wikipedia in the [[Dalmatian Italians]] article (21/11/2010), history of the region started in 997 A.D. We somehow lost the history of the Roman Empire and the early Byzantine Empire. ''See below:''  

He is other example of '''cultural genocide''' on Wikipedia the free encyclopaedia. The historic information below was deleted because it did not reflect the '''dated''' point of view of the former [[Communists|Communist]] Yugoslavia. According to Wikipedia in the [[Dalmatian Italians]] article (21/11/2010), history of the region started in 997 A.D. We somehow '''lost''' the history of the Roman Empire and the early Byzantine Empire. ''See below:''  

{{Cquote|

{{Cquote|

===Characteristics===

===Characteristics===