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Hi PB.  Good to see you around.  [[User:Ockham|Peter Damian]] 00:26, 11 October 2008 (PDT)
 
Hi PB.  Good to see you around.  [[User:Ockham|Peter Damian]] 00:26, 11 October 2008 (PDT)
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== Please fix ==
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Your "error" in your Google docs dated 6th September 2008:
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[http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dd7ss2g_0fshgw6hq British civil servant impersonated others online]
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As exposed in my Google docs dated 25th September 2008 (although originally exposed on 8th September 2008 on Encyc):
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[http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dpqbn5p_0dvbzkzgt Correction to British civil servant impersonated others online]
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Please change this paragraph:
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For the sockpuppet account known as Poetlister, Mr. Baxter gives the name Giselle Hillman, purportedly a 26-year old statistician from Ilford. Google gives several hits for a Giselle Hillman which match this description, two papers which credit Ms. Hillman with providing data from the National Transportation Survey,[13] and one site which lists Giselle Veronica Hillman among Ilford County High School's class of 2000.[14] The latter was added by Adrian Meredith, known by the screen name Blissyu2, presumably at the Poetlister alias' request.[15]
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To read this:
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For the sockpuppet account known as Poetlister, Mr. Baxter was once said to have the real name of Giselle Hillman [12], purportedly a 26-year old statistician from Ilford. Google gives several hits for a Giselle Hillman which match this description, two papers which credit Ms. Hillman with providing data from the National Transportation Survey,[13] and Names Database, a social networking site, which lists Giselle Veronica Hillman among Ilford County High School's class of 2000.[14] [15]
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As you can see from [http://namesdatabase.com/people/HILLMAN/GISELLE%20VERONICA/20432221 the link that you used], it actually says: "Referred by Adrian Meredith".  This is not the same as "Written by Adrian Meredith", which you are saying in your document.  The inference that you make, based on that, they I created the Giselle Hillman identity on Poetlister's request, is therefore false, and should be retracted.  It is a hurtful, nasty, slanderous thing to say which has caused significant damage to me as a person in my real life.  It has also led to a number of seriously hurtful things that were said by other people in relation to that, primarily by Alison but also by others, on Wikipedia Review, Encyc, and other places, which have also caused significant real life damage.
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Whilst I find it completely unbelievable that you could either be unaware that you had made this "mistake" and furthermore that you are unaware that you have been proven false for over a month, I nonetheless am here, for the first time person to person writing you a comment to ask you to please remove this comment.
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As you will see, it does not in any way detract from your investigation.  The only difference is that it removes a false aspect that pins the whole thing on me.  In other words, if you make the change as suggested, it actually makes you look better, because it makes you look like less of a liar, and it makes it look like your reason for the investigation was to try to prove guilt, rather than just to try to smear my name, which is what it looks like right now.
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If you will make the change, coupled with a public apology and some kind of an explanation as to why you were misled to believe that I was in fact responsible for creating the Giselle Hillman identity for Poetlister, then I will also similarly say nicer things about you. 
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If you don't agree to make the change, I will of course continue to advertise why your article is false, I will indeed call you a liar, and your whole effort, which, other than that element, was probably a pretty good thing, will ultimately end up looking bad on you. 
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This has gone on long enough, and it is high time that you made things right.
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Thank you. [[User:Blissyu2|Blissyu2]] 08:39, 12 October 2008 (PDT)

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Hi PB. Good to see you around. Peter Damian 00:26, 11 October 2008 (PDT)

Please fix

Your "error" in your Google docs dated 6th September 2008:

British civil servant impersonated others online

As exposed in my Google docs dated 25th September 2008 (although originally exposed on 8th September 2008 on Encyc):

Correction to British civil servant impersonated others online

Please change this paragraph:

For the sockpuppet account known as Poetlister, Mr. Baxter gives the name Giselle Hillman, purportedly a 26-year old statistician from Ilford. Google gives several hits for a Giselle Hillman which match this description, two papers which credit Ms. Hillman with providing data from the National Transportation Survey,[13] and one site which lists Giselle Veronica Hillman among Ilford County High School's class of 2000.[14] The latter was added by Adrian Meredith, known by the screen name Blissyu2, presumably at the Poetlister alias' request.[15]

To read this:

For the sockpuppet account known as Poetlister, Mr. Baxter was once said to have the real name of Giselle Hillman [12], purportedly a 26-year old statistician from Ilford. Google gives several hits for a Giselle Hillman which match this description, two papers which credit Ms. Hillman with providing data from the National Transportation Survey,[13] and Names Database, a social networking site, which lists Giselle Veronica Hillman among Ilford County High School's class of 2000.[14] [15]

As you can see from the link that you used, it actually says: "Referred by Adrian Meredith". This is not the same as "Written by Adrian Meredith", which you are saying in your document. The inference that you make, based on that, they I created the Giselle Hillman identity on Poetlister's request, is therefore false, and should be retracted. It is a hurtful, nasty, slanderous thing to say which has caused significant damage to me as a person in my real life. It has also led to a number of seriously hurtful things that were said by other people in relation to that, primarily by Alison but also by others, on Wikipedia Review, Encyc, and other places, which have also caused significant real life damage.

Whilst I find it completely unbelievable that you could either be unaware that you had made this "mistake" and furthermore that you are unaware that you have been proven false for over a month, I nonetheless am here, for the first time person to person writing you a comment to ask you to please remove this comment.

As you will see, it does not in any way detract from your investigation. The only difference is that it removes a false aspect that pins the whole thing on me. In other words, if you make the change as suggested, it actually makes you look better, because it makes you look like less of a liar, and it makes it look like your reason for the investigation was to try to prove guilt, rather than just to try to smear my name, which is what it looks like right now.

If you will make the change, coupled with a public apology and some kind of an explanation as to why you were misled to believe that I was in fact responsible for creating the Giselle Hillman identity for Poetlister, then I will also similarly say nicer things about you.

If you don't agree to make the change, I will of course continue to advertise why your article is false, I will indeed call you a liar, and your whole effort, which, other than that element, was probably a pretty good thing, will ultimately end up looking bad on you.

This has gone on long enough, and it is high time that you made things right.

Thank you. Blissyu2 08:39, 12 October 2008 (PDT)