Session Start: Sat Jan 14 13:58:57 2012
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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�03[13:58] * Topic is 'English Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/ | Status: Up (http://status.wikimedia.org/) | Channel guidelines: http://bit.ly/WP-IRC | Channel operator: Ask in #wikimedia-ops or say !ops <request...> | For urgent admin help, say !admin <request...> | No public logging | Cloak requests: http://bit.ly/IRCcloaks�'
�03[13:58] * Set by Fluffernutter!~Fluffernu@wikipedia/Fluffernutter on Fri Dec 23 22:26:48
�12[13:58] -pratchett.freenode.net:#wikipedia-en- [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp
[13:58] #wikipedia-en url is http://en.wikipedia.org/
�12[13:58] -ChanServ- [#wikipedia-fr] Canal en UTF-8. La diffusion publique de journaux de ce canal est interdite. Merci de lire http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Canal_IRC et de contribuer à la bonne humeur du canal. Bonne journée !
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[14:00] <James_F> SudoGhost> Now "We have blacked-out access to Wikipedia for today to show what might happen."
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[14:00] <russavia> best tweet ever http://twitter.com/#!/danforthfrance/status/157858163935289344
[14:00] <SudoGhost> I like it.
[14:01] <SudoGhost> I don't know what wording it like that didn't occur to me.
[14:02] <BarkingFish> Addihockey10: that does not sound good to me. I hate soup in the first place, and the thought of burned soup makes me wanna revisit lunch
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[14:04] <Addihockey10> BarkingFish: i threw it out
[14:05] <BarkingFish> presumably you had to crowbar it out of the saucepan first :)
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[14:09] <harej> Rah.
[14:10] <Addihockey10> harej: RAHRE
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[14:11] <harej> OKAY
[14:12] <harej> Enough of that!
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[14:22] <tjf> omg Facebook
[14:22] <tjf> how do I look at your privacy policy that's not "easily readable"
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[14:22] <Hurricanefan25> Boring day :/
[14:23] <log> tjf: https://www.facebook.com/full_data_use_policy
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[14:26] <Addihockey10> http://is.gd/i6wO3z
[14:26] <SudoGhost> Addihockey10: That didn't go to a section called "ACC_e-mail_feature", and I didn't see one.
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[14:27] <Addihockey10> SudoGhost: It should
[14:27] <Hurricanefan25> purge your page :/
[14:27] <Hurricanefan25> *the
[14:27] <Utar> Which apostrophe to use in names of articles? ’ or ' ?
[14:28] <SudoGhost> Purging did it.
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[14:30] <James_F> Utar> The latter.
[14:31] <James_F> Utar> We don't use curved-quotes, just ASCII.
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[14:31] <SudoGhost> Well I'm going across the street to Cinnabon. But if you need more input on the SOPA thing, I'll be glad to help any way I can as soon as I'm back.
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[14:33] <Utar> James_F: thanks
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[14:34] <Fluttershy-ENG> SOPA IS GOOD, SOPA IS MY PAL.
[14:34] <harej> Sopapillas.
[14:34] <Fluttershy-ENG> eyup.
[14:35] <Fluttershy-ENG> but seriously, this blackout will not mean shit if Google or Facebook doesn't join in.
[14:35] <tjf> you know that wikipedia is pretty big
[14:35] <tjf> right?
[14:36] <Fluttershy-ENG> yes.
[14:36] <tjf> and normal people read it
[14:38] <Fluttershy-ENG> you could make the argument that even WP is not big enough to influence. blacking out Google on the other hand.
[14:40] <Pharos> wikipedia has more legitimacy than google in some wys
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[14:40] <Pharos> we're not a commerical megagiant
[14:41] <Fluttershy-ENG> I'm not saying WIkipedia is just another website that some kid can shit out of their ass using Webs.com
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[14:42] <Fluttershy-ENG> but blacking out a website that most people have set as their home page would pack a huge hit against SOPA.
[14:43] <Pharos> there is certain understanding that this is just a conflict between corporate kings, Google vs Hollywood
[14:43] <Pharos> WP brings more populist legitimacy, at least to those ppl who understand what it is
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[14:44] <jorm> man. i hate that "xxx has made few or no other edits outside this topic." template.
�03[14:44] * eir sets mode: -bo *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.178.203.122 eir
[14:45] <jorm> the main power that WP would bring to bear is the concept of melting the phone lines.
[14:45] <Fluttershy-ENG> jorm, me too. Just another way to discriminate or devalue the comment of a newer user.
[14:45] <jorm> yes.
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[14:46] <jorm> it's especially bad when those people are talking about something that they *know* and *care* about, but don't give a shit enough about anything else.
[14:46] <jorm> i see this at RFDs a lot.
[14:46] <Fluttershy-ENG> now, if it's some dumbass trying to whore Viagra products, bring the tags out full force.
[14:46] <jorm> like when OldManMurray got deleted.
[14:46] <Fluttershy-ENG> but for the average newbie, just please.
[14:46] <tommorris> jorm: lemme pull up my favourite deletion
[14:46] <jorm> a metric fuckton of Game Designers (who know the topic, and know that it's notable) showed up and left comments, but were ignored.
[14:46] <tommorris> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Rhys_Morgan
[14:47] <tommorris> one user on WP thought that the subject of a BLP was a hoax
[14:47] <Fluttershy-ENG> my favorite discussion shall always be GNAA deletion threads.
[14:47] <tommorris> then when people who'd met the subject of said BLP turned up and said "hold on, he's not a hoax", the user started tagging them all because they must be part of the hoax to
[14:47] <tommorris> *too
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[14:48] <tommorris> even though this 'hoax' had been on a BBC TV show, written up in lots of reliable sources and so on
[14:48] <Addihockey10> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cimex_lectularius2.jpg
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[14:49] <jorm> nice.
[14:49] <Utar> hi, tommorris, still not interested in handcoding?
[14:50] <jorm> the deletion debates about my game were always fun.
[14:50] <tommorris> Utar: no, am interested, just haven't heard anything from Ironholds about it
[14:50] <jorm> people who had no knowledge of the category/topic at hand, deciding notability of something.
[14:50] <tommorris> I'm seeing him IRL tomorrow, so if I haven't gotten access, I'll pour beer over his head
�06[14:51] * James_F decides to go to Tesco for some Bad Food (tm) has he is out.
[14:51] <James_F> Back in a few minutes.
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[14:52] <Utar> tommorris: I didn't see you on [[Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5/Feedback_evaluation#Volunteering]]
[14:53] <tommorris> Utar: I'm on there
[14:53] <tommorris> fourth up from the bottom
[14:54] <Utar> tommorris: oh, I used Ctrl+F, Ctrl+V, sorry
[14:54] <Utar> so you didn't got your link yet?
[14:56] <tommorris> nay
[14:56] <jorm> http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/obama-administration-comes-out-against-sopa-pipa.php
[14:57] <Fluttershy-ENG> I thought Obama sat on his fat ass wasting the tax payer money.
[14:57] <dkonstantinos> I read the administration statement and the only thing they specifically oppose is the DNS blocking, which the sponsor of the bill removed a day or two ago
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[14:57] <Fluttershy-ENG> inb4liberalscallmeracist.
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[14:57] <guerillero|phone> O.o
[14:57] <jorm> i wouldn't call him "fat".
�06[14:57] * tommorris is a liberal and thinks that you aren't racist, but perhaps misguided.
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[14:57] <jorm> he's probably the most physically fit president we've had in decades. despite being a smoker.
�06[14:58] * jorm saw no racism in the comment.
[14:58] <harej> George W. Bush was also quite fit.
[14:58] <Fluttershy-ENG> tommorris, did you know that if you do not support Obamacare, you are a racist.
[14:58] <dkonstantinos> It helps that he's significantly younger than many of the others
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[14:58] <jorm> i wouldn't say people who don't support obamacare are racist, just . . . shortsighted, maybe.
[14:59] <tommorris> Fluttershy-ENG: no, if you don't support Obamacare you are either rich or acting against your best interests.
[14:59] <Fluttershy-ENG> tommorris, I prefer to stand for my conservative beliefs.
[14:59] <jorm> my girlfriend's parents bought into the whole "Death Panel" hype thing until we pointed out that actually the law *removes* death panels, which already existed. because insurance companies would decide what you could and could not get care for.
[15:00] <harej> tommorris: or a health insurer
[15:00] <dkonstantinos> On a completely different subject, I was wondering if I could get some guidance on a procedural issue. I have seriously doubts about an article's notability, which I tagged appropriately and posted about on the talk page. Assuming nobody else swoops in with compelling reasons to save it, how long is it generally considered good form to wait before submitting to AfD?
[15:00] <dkonstantinos> A day? A week? A month?
�06[15:00] * tommorris pays £43 to have a dental filling in evil socialist Britain while my friend in the United States paid $1,800 *with* a decent healthcare plan.
�06[15:00] * tommorris thinks he rather likes evil socialist healthcare.
[15:00] <Fluttershy-ENG> I would just nominate the fucker, dkon.
[15:00] <Fluttershy-ENG> if you feel it doesn't meet the guidelines, go ahead.
[15:00] <tommorris> or PROD it
[15:00] <guerillero|phone> Ya
[15:01] <dkonstantinos> Article in question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bladet_Troms%C3%B8
[15:01] <dkonstantinos> PROD?
�06[15:01] * tommorris is a big fan of America, but if he gets sick, would rather be sick in Britain.
[15:01] <Fluttershy-ENG> the one reference is a dead link.
[15:01] <tommorris> dkonstantinos: Proposed deletion. you still not hooked up with Twinkle yet?
[15:01] <guerillero|phone> It will pass.an afd
[15:01] <Fluttershy-ENG> dkonstantinos, i think it would be safe to AFD.
[15:01] <tommorris> Twinkle: the Wikipedia usability library. ;-)
[15:02] <Fluttershy-ENG> hell no it won't pass AFD.
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[15:02] <guerillero|phone> It is a newspaper in circulation
[15:03] <dkonstantinos> What's the difference between Proposed Deletion and Articles for Deletion?
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[15:03] <Fluttershy-ENG> dkon, I just nominated it.
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[15:04] <guerillero|phone> A prod is drama free
[15:04] <BarkingFish> dkonstantinos: proposed deletion is basically you think it should be deleted, so you suggest it, and if no one opposes in a week, it goes quietly. If someone takes the proposed deletion off, you can then nominate it for AfD which means it goes to discussion.
[15:04] <dkonstantinos> Ah, I see.
[15:05] <guerillero|phone> I am so sad
[15:05] <Fluttershy-ENG> GOOD!
[15:05] <Fluttershy-ENG> YOU SHOULD BE!
�06[15:05] * Fluttershy-ENG not realy.
[15:06] <BarkingFish> Fluttershy-ENG: how did you manage to pm me that chan link? Your irc client can't be that bad that it pms people without you asking it to :)
�03[15:06] * quanticle|away is now known as quanticle
[15:06] <BarkingFish> or is your client haunted? :)
[15:06] <Fluttershy-ENG> i needed an excuse not to use the menu bar.
[15:06] <Earwig> typing with hooves is hard
[15:06] <dkonstantinos> guerillero, from looking through WP:ORG, I don't see any specific standards for newspapers
[15:06] <BarkingFish> lol
�06[15:06] * guerillero|phone is at the mall but on irc via his phone
[15:07] <tommorris> ADDICT
[15:07] <guerillero|phone> Hehe
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[15:07] <bbqlajb> Niggers.
[15:07] <tommorris> !ops
[15:07] <quanticle> !ops bbqlajb
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[15:07] <quanticle> Thank you log
[15:07] <tommorris> that said, if I were stuck in a damn shopping mall, I'd get on IRC
[15:07] <Fluttershy-ENG> lulz.
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[15:08] <Fluttershy-ENG> Koreans.
[15:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tommorris is korean?
[15:08] <guerillero|phone> I hate clothes sgippii
[15:08] <guerillero|phone> Shopping
�06[15:08] * tjf glomps localhost
�06[15:08] * tjf glomps log too
[15:09] <tommorris> ToAruShiroiNeko: no, just someone who prefers IRC to shopping
�08[15:09] * derp looooooooooooooves shopping! <3
[15:09] <tjf> Online shooping is the way to go.
[15:09] <tjf> Shoppping
[15:09] <tjf> dammit
[15:09] <tjf> shipping
[15:09] <tjf> ffffffffffffffff
�06[15:10] * tommorris prefers shooping to shopping
[15:10] <tommorris> shoop da woop
�06[15:10] * tjf fires his lasers
�08[15:10] <derp> shitting?
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[15:14] <Utar> like a hurricane...
[15:16] <guerillero|phone> I can only people watch for so long
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[15:16] <xujecwt> !ops I HATE FAGS, NIGGERS, KYKES, CUNTS(IF IT BLEEDS IT DON'T FUCKING VOTE IF YOU ASK ME YOU FUCKING FAGS), SPICS, SLANT EYED SLOPE ASS SMALL DICKED COMPUTER USING BAD DRIVING THIEVING CHINAMEN/JAP/GOOK DUMBASS MOTHER FUCKERS NOW ALL YOU ALL MOTHER FUCKERS BETTER GET WITH ME AND HOP ON THE WHITE TRAIN.
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[15:17] <TBloemink> OK
[15:17] <Stifle> :|
[15:17] <TBloemink> :| troll
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[15:18] <jeremyb> do all georgians speak like that? ;-P
[15:19] <guerillero|phone> I find it hilarious that he pings the ops
[15:19] <Fluttershy-ENG> You know, I never really liked Karen people.
[15:19] <Fluttershy-ENG> trollface.jpeg
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[15:22] <Pharos> I never really liked Sealanders
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[15:22] <Pharos> there are a troublesome race
�08[15:22] <derp> Where is Fluff|errands, my favorite coupon queen?
[15:22] <Fluttershy-ENG> Pharos, I really hate those orientals.
[15:22] <Fluttershy-ENG> don't get me started.
[15:23] <guerillero|phone> 0.o
[15:23] <Pharos> also, the Hyperboreans
[15:23] <Fluttershy-ENG> YES.
[15:23] <Fluttershy-ENG> YES. YES.
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[15:25] <dkonstantinos> There aren't really any ethnic slurs against my Greek heritage.
�03[15:25] * barras_ is now known as Barras
[15:25] <dkonstantinos> I feel kind of left out.
[15:25] <dkonstantinos> :(
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[15:26] <Pharos> i'm sure there are if you look hard enough
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[15:26] <Pharos> chin up!
[15:27] <Pharos> you democracy-inventing feta monkeys, you
[15:28] <Hurricanefan25> I find it kinda surprising that not many people troll in IRC when I'm in
[15:28] <Hurricanefan25> Wait...
[15:28] <Hurricanefan25> O_o
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�06[15:29] * Pharos sees no trolls
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[15:29] <Hurricanefan25> ^^^
[15:29] <Hurricanefan25> Far above
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[15:32] <Ironholds> ahoy-hoy
[15:33] <dkonstantinos> Howdy.
[15:34] <BarkingFish> oh. my. god. I think I just found the new rickroll :)
[15:34] <tjf> BarkingFish, ?
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[15:34] <BarkingFish> The most mental tune I've ever heard in my life, combined with windows errors from xp. Genius, tjf. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHjtm6DswGw
[15:35] <BarkingFish> I'm gonna use that from now on.
[15:35] <TBloemink> heh
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[15:36] <tjf> BarkingFish, I take it you've never seen Puddi?
[15:36] <BarkingFish> no
�03[15:36] * James_F|Away is now known as James_F
[15:36] <James_F> Hey.
[15:36] <tjf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B10BxYZqa1Q
�06[15:36] * tommorris wonders what the fuck https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tom_Morris&diff=0&oldid=471370410 is about
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�08[15:37] Clones detected from wikimedia/Beria:�8 Beria Beria_
[15:37] <Utar> tommorris: it seems you missed again
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�06[15:38] * tommorris is struggling to read it
[15:38] <tommorris> oh well, later
[15:39] <Utar> is "Provincial Artisan Union" understandable?
[15:39] <Ironholds> Utar: indeed it is :)
[15:39] <Ironholds> hey, James_F
[15:39] <Ironholds> long time no speak
[15:40] <Utar> Ironholds: I can§t find anz official translation
[15:40] <James_F> Umm. Sure.
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[15:41] <Ironholds> James_F ;p
[15:41] <Ironholds> yo, Ktr101
[15:41] <tjf> I used to laugh at these jokes but then I... saw this one. http://i.imgur.com/ojMei.png
[15:41] <Ktr101> yo Ironholds
[15:41] <Ktr101> pm?
[15:41] <Ironholds> sure
[15:41] <Ktr101> omg, Ironholds is a gangster :p
[15:41] <Ironholds> Ktr101: wha?
[15:42] <Ktr101> you said yo :P
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[15:43] <Pharos> didn't shakespeare sy yo?
[15:43] <dkonstantinos> BarkingFish: It depresses me that I am pretty certain I know where the voice samples are from, despite having never watched an episode of what I think to be the source.
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[15:43] <Pharos> not that i'm questioning will's gangsta cred
[15:44] <FT2> Heads-up on SOPA. White house has come out saying in its present form, they won't back it. The target appears to be DNS filtering which is identified as a problem, "safe harbor" provisions aren't mentioned, but it's worth a read, and the 18 Jan hearing is apparently postponed.
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[15:45] <FT2> http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/01/13/obama-administration-responds-we-people-petitions-sopa-and-online-piracy
[15:45] <FT2> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/obama-administration-joins-the-ranks-of-sopa-skeptics.ars
[15:45] <FT2> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/under-voter-pressure-members-of-congress-backpedal-on-sopa.ars
[15:46] <Earwig> tjf: Alex S!
[15:46] <tjf> Earwig, ?
[15:46] <Earwig> the image you liked
[15:46] <Earwig> *linked
[15:46] <Earwig> bah
[15:46] <tjf> oh
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[15:49] <James_F> https://twitter.com/#!/hubmum/status/158284806738804736 :-)
[15:51] <FT2> "wow"
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[15:52] <LtNOWIS> Hmm. User pages can't go in main namespace categories, coreect?
[15:52] <James_F> Yip
[15:52] <James_F> Err. Yup.
[15:53] <Ironholds> James_F: so, I notice you've started actually using your twitter account
[15:53] <Ironholds> taking a leaf out of your boss's book?
[15:53] <James_F> Ironholds> 2 months ago...
[15:53] <James_F> Ironholds> We've discussed this in person about five times since. :-)
[15:53] <Ironholds> James_F: I don't pay attention that much
[15:53] <James_F> Ironholds> Are you feeling well? :-)
[15:53] <Ironholds> you were speaking? what? where am I?
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[15:54] <James_F> Ironholds> You've been in an accident. Don't worry - everyone's fine. However, we're a bit concerned about your memory. The doctor wants you to rest for now, and he'll be round in the morning. OK?
[15:55] <Ironholds> James_F: tell him I'm busy
[15:55] <Emw> if SOPA were passed in its current form, how likely would it be that public awareness of free licenses (and the incentive to use them) be increased?
[15:55] <James_F> That's nice, dear.
�06[15:55] * Ironholds finishes blog post, hits publish, starts another
[15:57] <guerillero> i should read your blog
�06[15:57] * Peter-C lays down on Ironholds
�06[15:57] * Peter-C is tired
�06[15:57] * Peter-C passes out on Ironholds
[15:57] <Ironholds> guerillero: it's not that interesting
[15:58] <Ironholds> I spent about a week writing a post not relating to law, politics, wikipedia or books
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[15:58] <guerillero> I like those topics
[15:58] <Ironholds> and in doing so realised why I normally write about law, politics, wikipedia or books. I LIKE those things. Writing about them is easy.
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[15:59] <Ironholds> guerillero: http://quominus.org/ if you have literally nothing to do
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[15:59] <FT2> add physics and I'm happy. I like physics.
[15:59] <guerillero> i am on tumblr
[16:00] <jorm> btw, we had a legal discussion about the removal of the DNS stuff, and it really doesn't change the core problems.
[16:00] <jorm> at least, according to geoff.
[16:00] <James_F> Yeah.
[16:00] <FT2> yep. The core problem is safe harbor
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[16:00] <Ironholds> guerillero: linky?
[16:00] <guerillero> so anything DNS stuff
[16:00] <guerillero> ?
[16:00] <jorm> we've another call scheduled for later this afternoon and i'm sure it will come up then.
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[16:01] <SudoGhost> Back.
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[16:02] <SudoGhost> James_F: Did you get that 100 word message to your liking?
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[16:02] <James_F> SudoGhost> Not entirely, but it's reasonable.
[16:02] <James_F> SudoGhost> It's now for the community to decide.
[16:03] <SudoGhost> James_F: I am the law!
[16:03] <James_F> OK, then it's now for /you/ to decide. Either way, not me. :-)
[16:03] <SudoGhost> ...you didn't really set me up for that line...but I had an entire Cinnabon to myself. I'm not used to that kind of sugar.
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[16:04] <Ironholds> so, apparently when someone goes "if reincarnation was real, what would you come back as and where"
[16:04] <Ironholds> "Hitler's semtex jockstrap, circa 1939" is not the right answer
[16:05] <Pharos> that's a fair guess
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[16:06] <tashir> the DNS thing doesn't matter because anyone with a copyvio on any WMF site can have all WMF everything removed from all commercial search engines
[16:06] <James_F> Indeed.
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[16:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tashir umm
[16:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it doesnt need a copyvio
[16:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it needs the claim of a copyvio
[16:08] <tashir> right
[16:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I claim Obama's face is a copyvio
[16:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> all websites with his face appearing must be removed.
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[16:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> No CNN, Fox News or even Whitehouse.gob
[16:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> *gov
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[16:10] <SudoGhost> Obama was produced by the U.S. Government. Public domain.
[16:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no
[16:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he is Kenyan made remember?
[16:10] <SudoGhost> All politicians are hand crafted.[1]
[16:11] <tashir> that's not an unreasonable example because Associated Press successfully raked Shepard Fairey over the coals because his three tone paining was modeled on one of their photos
[16:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> to mee they are factory manifactured
[16:11] <SudoGhost> ToAruShiroiNeko: Yes, but the factory machines are made out of hands.
[16:12] <tashir> I still find it inconceivable that a painting of a photograph of a public figure could be encumbered, but he changed his story on it which really hurt him in court
[16:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hands are a lie
[16:13] <SudoGhost> tashir: To me it would depend on if the photograph was iconic or unique.
[16:14] <SudoGhost> But that's my personal opinion, I'm no expert on photo IP.
[16:14] <LtNOWIS> the government gives us a ton of nice public domain images
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[16:14] <tashir> when it's a public figure's photo, someone who probably has hundreds of photos a day, it just seems silly to assume that a particular facial expression from a particular angle is any creativity on the part of the photographer
[16:15] <tashir> but photographers will disagree
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[16:16] <LtNOWIS> Remember when Liam Neeson's infobox image was the back of his head?
�03[16:16] * quanticle is now known as quanticle|away
[16:17] <LtNOWIS> I've also seen original drawings.
[16:17] <LtNOWIS> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Susan_Boyle&direction=prev&oldid=287003443
[16:18] <LtNOWIS> here we go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Neesoncropped.jpg
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[16:21] <tashir> lol
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[16:25] <Fluffernutter> man, i'm getting too old for this whole "having to do my own errands" thing
[16:26] <Fluffernutter> someone send me a housekeeper
�06[16:26] * Peter-C will mankeep for 30 bucks and hour
[16:27] <Pharos> train the dog to do it
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[16:32] <geniice> so aparently we have no wikipedians in Isola del Giglio
[16:33] <geniice> arrested for manslaughter and abandoning ship ?
[16:33] <geniice> abandoning ship is now a crime?
[16:33] <Hurricanefan25> :S
[16:34] <Hurricanefan25> "abandoning ship"
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[16:34] <Hurricanefan25> "abandoning *moving* ship with *passengers* aboard"
[16:34] <BarkingFish> Anyone here who has ever served as an arb or is currently one?
[16:34] <Hurricanefan25> hmm
�06[16:34] * Hurricanefan25 checks
[16:35] <Hurricanefan25> I've seen AGK here as agk-wiki
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[16:35] <geniice> BarkingFish at least 2 I think
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[16:35] <Hurricanefan25> I see one arb clerk.
[16:35] <Hurricanefan25> no one else
[16:35] <Hurricanefan25> :S
[16:36] <BarkingFish> I just had a question about a page being used as part of an arbcom case. It's getting extraordinarily long, and taking a fair old time to load in full - any way it can be shrunk or broken into a page and a subpage to shorten them down?
[16:36] <Pharos> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Day
[16:36] <BarkingFish> I'd estimate that right now, the whole page is well over 150 - 200k, and editing it is a bitch if you have more than one section to work on.
[16:37] <Qcoder00> Evening BarkingFish
[16:37] <BarkingFish> Hi Qcoder00 :)
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[16:37] <Qcoder00> Not very happy at the moment
[16:38] <BarkingFish> whassup?
[16:38] <geniice> BarkingFish civility? I expect arbcom members will be keeping their head down
[16:38] <guerillero> the case is a CF
[16:38] <guerillero> it is going nowhere very fast
[16:39] <BarkingFish> guerillero: what the hell is a CF?
[16:39] <guerillero> cluster fuck
[16:40] <BarkingFish> geniice: the point is, it's becoming harder to edit the more people add, it needs breaking up or it's gonna become nigh on impossible to work on
�06[16:40] * Fluffernutter thinks they just need to bar the people who love to talk from the pages, to make room for the people who *need* to talk
[16:40] <geniice> BarkingFish meh evidence phase cloeses to tomorrow
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[16:41] <guerillero> but the workshop is even more messed up
[16:42] <guerillero> no one seems to know what the case it about
[16:42] <guerillero> part of the people are using this to get back at malleus
[16:43] <guerillero> part of the people are trying to prove that civility does not exist
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[16:44] <guerillero> and part of the people are using this as an opportunity to make wikipedia more of a kindergarden
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[16:50] <Peter-C> Come to NYC
[16:50] <Ktr101_> hell no
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[16:50] <Peter-C> Coulda just said no..;.
[16:50] <Earwig> :'(
[16:50] <Peter-C> ^^^
[16:50] <Peter-C> YOU MADE HIM CRY DAMNIT
[16:50] <Peter-C> I HOPE YOUR HAPPY
[16:50] <Earwig> MY HAPPY!
[16:51] <Peter-C> You took his happy damnit
�06[16:51] * Peter-C kicks Ktr101 in the nuts and runs away
[16:51] <Ktr101> I AM HAPPY
[16:52] <tjf> Ktr101, why?
[16:52] <Ktr101> i made him cry
[16:52] <Fluffernutter> boys, behave
[16:53] <tjf> Fluffernutter, you know damn well we can't
[16:53] <Peter-C> Fluffernutter - but he stole Earwig's happy!
[16:53] <Peter-C> :(
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[16:56] <BarkingFish> guys - what's the name of that site that will convert anything to anything and do weird assed math stuff for you?
[16:57] <tjf> wolfram alpha
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[16:57] <BarkingFish> bingo, cheers tjf :)
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[16:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Cat + Keyboard = Worst possible key combinations
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[17:00] <Lubaf> No, Head+Keyboard=Worstpossiblekeycombinations.
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[17:01] <Lubaf> *No,Head+Keyboard=Worstpossiblekeycombinations.
[17:01] <tjf> Whatifyoudonthaveakeyboardoranythingelseonlyletterkeys
[17:01] <guerillero> head desk
[17:01] <tjf> andmaybeshiftandenterbutnobacksapce
[17:01] <tjf> somanypeoplewouldhavetyposthatwouldmaketheworldfailitwouldbehorrible
[17:01] <PeterSymonds> Wonderful!
[17:02] <BarkingFish> Worst possible combination, lubaf, is a large keyboard + a seizure + being connected to IRC and thrashing about hitting things with no idea what you're doing :)
[17:02] <tjf> ohpetersymondshasoneofthosefancykeyboardsthathassymbolsandashiftkey
�06[17:02] * tjf is done
[17:02] <guerillero> yay
[17:02] <Lubaf> Andspellcheckdoesn'tworkonsingleblocksoftext.
[17:02] <BarkingFish> I've been banned from a network for that in the past, typing 3 pages of random bollocks while fitting at my pc.
[17:02] <BarkingFish> I hadn't a clue
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[17:03] <tjf> BarkingFish, a seizure?
[17:03] <James_F> Eurgh.
[17:03] <James_F> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invention_of_Love
[17:03] <BarkingFish> yeah
[17:03] <James_F> 1997?!
[17:03] <James_F> Surely I didn't see it 15 years ago? It feels like I saw it at most a decade ago.
[17:04] <tjf> 1997 was 15 years ago?
[17:04] <tjf> way to make me feel old -_-
[17:04] <James_F> Me too! :-)
[17:04] <Ktr101> damn
[17:04] <tjf> O_O
[17:04] <Ktr101> James_F: it's even more scary when i have some friends born in that year
[17:04] <tjf> This year people born in 1999 will start to turn 13
[17:05] <tjf> Ktr101, i was born in 1996.. :P
[17:05] <James_F> Ktr101> You know, we have editors who are younger than Wikipedia.
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[17:05] <Ktr101> which is the scary part
[17:05] <James_F> Ktr101> Indeed, editors younger than my first edits to Wikipedia.
[17:05] <Ktr101> although, they aren't productive
[17:05] <Ktr101> lol
[17:05] <James_F> Well, you say that.
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[17:05] <James_F> Younger editors are often rather more productive than "adult" ones.
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[17:06] <Fluffernutter> James_F, dear, you ARE old
�06[17:06] * James_F glares.
[17:06] <Fluffernutter> so feeling old is par for the cource
[17:06] <Fluffernutter> I mean, not as old as me
[17:06] <James_F> I'm not old!
[17:06] <Fluffernutter> but still
[17:06] <James_F> Old is, like, when people are /old/.
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[17:07] <tjf> For example, Shirik.
[17:07] <Ktr101> James_F: that means they are like 11
[17:07] <James_F> You know, when they have a job... or even a career... oh, bugger.
[17:07] <Ktr101> they don't do much
[17:07] <Fluffernutter> heh
�06[17:07] * Fluffernutter hasn't got a career, I must still be young!
[17:07] <James_F> Fluffernutter> Umm. About that...
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[17:07] <Fluffernutter> ignore the gray hairs
�06[17:08] * Peter-C eats Fluffernutter
[17:08] <tjf> in the bedroom petan
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[17:08] <tjf> Peter-C
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[17:08] <Peter-C> mhm
[17:08] <tashir> what is the stats.grok.se format for current (today) statistics?
[17:11] <geniice> none
[17:11] <geniice> they don't provide them
[17:12] <tashir> I mean, for the past 30 days no matter what the date is
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[17:13] <shimgray> it's .../en/latest/PAGENAME
[17:14] <tashir> thanks!!
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[17:21] <Fluffernutter> look what you did
[17:21] <Peter-C> It was worth it
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[17:22] <Gfoley4> Bad
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[17:23] <Peter-C> :(
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[17:23] <Gfoley4> who is this Gfoley4_ fellow
[17:24] <Peter-C> weirdo
[17:24] <Peter-C> no need to listen to him
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[17:24] <Gfoley4> omg
[17:24] <Peter-C> omgwtfbbq!?
[17:25] <tjf> is there a tool to tag and report copyright violations
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[17:25] <tjf> with the {{copyvio}} template
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[17:30] <BarkingFish> tjf: The only one I know is Twinkle, if you tag something as a copyvio, you just specify the URL you think it's copied from, and twinkle does the rest
[17:30] <tjf> BarkingFish, really?
[17:30] <tjf> Is that enabled?
[17:30] <tjf> by default
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[17:32] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFriedFish (BFF)
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[17:33] <SteveMobile> Hello
[17:33] <BarkingFish> tjf: I'm wrong.
[17:33] <BarkingFish> The only thing Twinkle will do for copyvio is allow you to mark it for CSD under G12, which needs the URL
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[17:34] <geniice> hmm interesting
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[17:35] <geniice> looks like ICL has a potential terrorist on their books
[17:35] <tjf> I feel like i'm badgering this person
[17:35] <geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/129.31.71.50
[17:35] <tjf> but all of the contribs of his are copyright violations
[17:35] <tjf> except one, afaict.
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[17:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tjf no badgering people
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[17:38] <tjf> ToAruShiroiNeko, I'm not even kidding, almost all of his contributions are copyright violations
[17:39] <SteveMobile> Net split
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[17:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tjf I believe you
[17:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its just that thats a waste of badgers
[17:42] <tjf> ToAruShiroiNeko, and he's been "contributing" since May.
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[17:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> May I ask why not post it on ANB/I?
[17:43] <Ktr101> Peter-C: you there?
[17:43] <Peter-C> mhm
[17:43] <Ktr101> Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Autoflowering Cannabis notable?
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[17:44] <tommorris> geniice: a potential terrorist? in chemistry? in fact, I'm waiting for the government to approve chemistry and religious studies and use it as an elaborate al-Qaeda honepot.
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[17:44] <James_F> Hmm.
[17:45] <James_F> Murdoch's not happy about Obama's line on SOPA.
[17:45] <geniice> tommorris nah buddying animal rights extremist. Look at what they are trying to remove
[17:45] <James_F> "So Obama has thrown in his lot withSilicon Valley paymasters who threaten all software creators with piracy, plain thievery."
[17:45] <Peter-C> Ktr101 - seems like it could be incorperated into the main canabis article
[17:45] <Ktr101> yeah
[17:45] <James_F> Does this count as an endorsement from our POV?
[17:46] <geniice> James_F errr the most well known but of murdoch owned software is whatever myspace runs on
[17:46] <James_F> Geni> Indeed.
[17:46] <tommorris> nobody would try and steal MySpace even if you paid them
[17:46] <Ktr101> Peter-C: now go respond on my talk page :P
[17:47] <tommorris> funny he goes for the software thing rather than hard-working journalists
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[17:47] <tommorris> ...perhaps the Times pay strategy isn't quite working out for him
[17:47] <geniice> there aren't many journalists left
[17:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> GPS signal lost....
[17:47] <James_F> tommorris> :-)
[17:47] <geniice> becoming an endangered species
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[17:47] <James_F> tommorris> His main concern is presumably 20th Century Fox, though.
[17:48] <tommorris> ah, yes, 20C Fox do make computer games
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[17:48] <geniice> James_F and sky sports
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[17:48] <tommorris> I do find it hilarious: he's condemning Obama for siding with Silicon Valley's evil plan... to destroy the software industry?
[17:48] <James_F> geniice> Post-event torrents/etc. of live broadcast sports isn't that major a problem.
[17:49] <James_F> geniice> And live re-broadcast is technically tricky and relatively easy to subvert.
�06[17:49] * tommorris thinks Murdoch needs to see what exactly it is they produce in Silicon Valley.
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[17:49] <tommorris> James_F: you think? I know a lot of motorcycle speedway fans who'd disagree on that.
[17:50] <James_F> tommorris> Hmm. And can they pay Sky to see it live?
[17:50] <tommorris> yes
[17:50] <tommorris> thriving torrent community and lots of shady forums where approved members get access to dodgy Polish feeds
�06[17:50] * James_F has never heard of motorcycle speedway. :-)
�06[17:50] * James_F shrugs.
[17:50] <Peter-C> Ktr101 - {{done}}
[17:50] <James_F> OK, clearly I don't know my murky sport torrenting underworld very well.
[17:50] <Ktr101> thanks!
[17:50] <James_F> Possibly due to not liking sport that much. ;-)
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[17:50] <tommorris> James_F: it's kind of like dog racing, but you have young men riding around on dirt bikes in oval shapes. without brakes.
[17:50] <tommorris> or gears
[17:50] <James_F> tommorris> That sounds safe.
�06[17:51] * BarkingFish will be back in about 20-30 mins, food awaits and it's far to late to be dinner :P
[17:51] <tommorris> James_F: actually, motorcycle speedway seems safter than cycle speedway
[17:51] <BarkingFish> see you in a bit
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[17:51] <tjf> I want to help with the copyright backlog
[17:51] <tjf> but I can't
[17:52] <tjf> i can just add to it
[17:52] <tommorris> both ride around at high speed, but on the motorbikes they have full protective gear and if you fall off, you either fall onto grass, sand, a massive inflated side wall (or, less fortunately, another bike)
[17:52] <James_F> Gosh, Prince Charles's lot are a bit blunt re. Costa Concordia: https://twitter.com/#!/GeorgianGroup/status/158310626744213504 :-D
[17:53] <tommorris> cycle speedway is high speed, but lacks all the protective gear and you fall on to road.
[17:53] <James_F> Nice.
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�06[17:55] * tommorris wonders if he ever explained the hilarious ranting and raging on Twitter by one of the British national speedway squad
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[17:56] <tommorris> Hint: if you are a young sports star, going on to Twitter at 1am while drunk and calling your nation's funs a "bunch of cunts", then trying to delete it the next day... yeah. Not smart.
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[17:57] <tommorris> anyway, James_F, speedway is massive in Sweden and especially Poland, and there are plenty of people who provide slightly dodgy Polish satellite feeds to illegal websites, which removes a big reason for speedway fans to pay Murdoch £50 a month
[17:58] <tommorris> the only downside is the commentary is in Polish
�06[17:58] * James_F nods.
[17:58] <James_F> But you can presumably just get a 1m steerable dish anyway?
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[17:58] <James_F> Or is PL over the horizon?
[17:58] <tommorris> not sure, haven't looked into it in much detail
[17:59] <tommorris> it might be encrypted too
[17:59] <James_F> Pah. The Israelis are good at cracking those.
[17:59] <tommorris> so *that's* how they are in Eurovision ;-)
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[18:00] <jorm> this shit is max infuriating.
[18:00] <tommorris> anyway, you probably hadn't heard of speedway because it's something Australians brought back to Britain in the 1920s/30s
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[18:02] <Qcoder00> tommorris: Speedway?
[18:03] <Qcoder00> Racing Bikes?
�06[18:03] * James_F heads to bed.
[18:03] <James_F> Night, all.
[18:03] <James_F> See some of you tomorrow.
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[18:03] <tommorris> seeya James_F|Away
[18:03] <tommorris> Qcoder00: yep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_speedway
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[18:19] <Kitty_> hello.
[18:19] <Kitty_> so I just wanted to ask a question.
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[18:20] <TParis> Sure Kitty
[18:20] <Kitty_> The format of wikipedia is really hard to edit.
[18:20] <TParis> There is a help channel though.
[18:20] <Kitty_> where?
[18:20] <TParis> #wikipedia-en-help
[18:20] <Kitty_> ok.
[18:20] <TParis> ;)
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