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JA: But let us put the definition of drama aside for now.  You are trying to reduce the bardic and dramatic arts to a kind of Accidental Stage Setting (ASS).  And that is nothing short of absurd.  It is true that people can learn from a climactic absurdity, but what they must learn is the absurdity of the collective premiss.  [[User:Jon Awbrey|Jon Awbrey]] 02:46, 14 October 2008 (PDT)
 
JA: But let us put the definition of drama aside for now.  You are trying to reduce the bardic and dramatic arts to a kind of Accidental Stage Setting (ASS).  And that is nothing short of absurd.  It is true that people can learn from a climactic absurdity, but what they must learn is the absurdity of the collective premiss.  [[User:Jon Awbrey|Jon Awbrey]] 02:46, 14 October 2008 (PDT)
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BK: I don't think we are all that far apart, Jon. I've been thinking about the use of dramaturgy in education for many years now, and I've been following the snail's pace at which the game culture has incorporated dramaturgy into the design of games.  What I noticed about WMF sites is that, while Jimbo did not intentionally set out to craft a post-modern theater of the absurd, that's what WP and sister sites have evolved to become.  A secondary question is what (if anything) the participants in Jimbo's Masquerade Ball are learning through their participation in that happenstantial psychodrama stage.  [[User:Moulton|Moulton]] 10:35, 14 October 2008 (PDT)
    
===The 2nd Part of the Discontention===
 
===The 2nd Part of the Discontention===
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