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The Wikimedia Foundation prohibits publishing logs of most of their IRC channels, except for [https://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/ a very few] that are published by the Foundation including "Office Hours" IRC logs. The owner of Wikipedialogs.com feels that this is contrary to Wikimedia Foundation's stated principles of transparency and openness, and the site was intended to help fulfill those principles by publishing these logs.

The Wikimedia Foundation prohibits publishing logs of most of their IRC channels, except for [https://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/ a very few] that are published by the Foundation including "Office Hours" IRC logs. The owner of Wikipedialogs.com feels that this is contrary to Wikimedia Foundation's stated principles of transparency and openness, and the site was intended to help fulfill those principles by publishing these logs.

Former Wikipedia Foundation executive director Sue Gardner disagrees, claiming that IRC is an "ephemeral medium", and should not be logged, while [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sue_Gardner&diff=566302927&oldid=566269021 referring] to some of [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2011-05-26 her own sexual comments on IRC] as "an informal, jokey exchange". In a December 2014 ''Los Angeles Times'' op-ed, she [http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-gardner-women-in-tech-20141207-story.html quotes] 9 year old emails, her assertion that this is "not useful":[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sue_Gardner&diff=566302927&oldid=566269021]

Former Wikipedia Foundation executive director Sue Gardner disagrees, claiming that IRC is an "ephemeral medium", and should not be logged, while [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sue_Gardner&diff=566302927&oldid=566269021 referring] to some of [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2011-05-26 her own sexual comments on IRC] as "an informal, jokey exchange". In a December 2014 ''Los Angeles Times'' op-ed, she [http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-gardner-women-in-tech-20141207-story.html quotes] 9 year old emails, her assertion that this is "not useful":[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sue_Gardner&diff=566302927&oldid=566269021#Question]

{{quote|I'm aware that this IRC exchange is being quoted, lately, in the context of an Arb Com case. I'm not that familiar with the case (nor do I feel I need to be), so I'll limit myself to a general comment about the exchange. This was an informal jokey exchange on IRC among people who know each other well: Ironholds, Kat and I have all known each other for years, and we are friendly. That's the context. A slightly broader point: IMO IRC is a medium that lends itself to, and is often used for, casual kibitzing -- it is essentially a social medium that provides a way for people to collapse physical distance and hang out together as though they were in the same room. In the same way that I don't think it would be useful to, years later, play back sections of a phone call or office water-cooler conversation, I also don't think it's useful to quote back sections of IRC dialogue. It's an ephemeral medium. Thanks Sue Gardner (talk) 16:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)}}

{{quote|I'm aware that this IRC exchange is being quoted, lately, in the context of an Arb Com case. I'm not that familiar with the case (nor do I feel I need to be), so I'll limit myself to a general comment about the exchange. This was an informal jokey exchange on IRC among people who know each other well: Ironholds, Kat and I have all known each other for years, and we are friendly. That's the context. A slightly broader point: IMO IRC is a medium that lends itself to, and is often used for, casual kibitzing -- it is essentially a social medium that provides a way for people to collapse physical distance and hang out together as though they were in the same room. In the same way that I don't think it would be useful to, years later, play back sections of a phone call or office water-cooler conversation, I also don't think it's useful to quote back sections of IRC dialogue. It's an ephemeral medium. Thanks Sue Gardner (talk) 16:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)}}