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The Wikimedia Foundation prohibits publishing logs of most of their IRC channels, except for [https://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/ a very few] that are published by the Foundation including "Office Hours" IRC logs. The owner of Wikipedialogs.com feels that this is contrary to Wikimedia Foundation's stated principles of transparency and openness, and the site was intended to help fulfill those principles by publishing these logs.
The Wikimedia Foundation prohibits publishing logs of most of their IRC channels, except for [https://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/ a very few] that are published by the Foundation including "Office Hours" IRC logs. The owner of Wikipedialogs.com feels that this is contrary to Wikimedia Foundation's stated principles of transparency and openness, and the site was intended to help fulfill those principles by publishing these logs.
Former Wikipedia Foundation executive director Sue Gardner disagrees, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sue_Gardner&diff=566302927&oldid=566269021 claiming that IRC is an "ephemeral medium"], and should not be logged, while referring to some of [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2011-05-26 her own sexual comments on IRC] as "an informal, jokey exchange".
Former Wikipedia Foundation executive director Sue Gardner disagrees, claiming that IRC is an "ephemeral medium", and should not be logged, while [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sue_Gardner&diff=566302927&oldid=566269021 referring] to some of [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2011-05-26 her own sexual comments on IRC] as "an informal, jokey exchange". In a December 2014 ''Los Angeles Times'' op-ed, she [http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-gardner-women-in-tech-20141207-story.html quotes] 9 year old emails, her assertion that this is "not useful":[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sue_Gardner&diff=566302927&oldid=566269021]
{{quote|I'm aware that this IRC exchange is being quoted, lately, in the context of an Arb Com case. I'm not that familiar with the case (nor do I feel I need to be), so I'll limit myself to a general comment about the exchange. This was an informal jokey exchange on IRC among people who know each other well: Ironholds, Kat and I have all known each other for years, and we are friendly. That's the context. A slightly broader point: IMO IRC is a medium that lends itself to, and is often used for, casual kibitzing -- it is essentially a social medium that provides a way for people to collapse physical distance and hang out together as though they were in the same room. In the same way that I don't think it would be useful to, years later, play back sections of a phone call or office water-cooler conversation, I also don't think it's useful to quote back sections of IRC dialogue. It's an ephemeral medium. Thanks Sue Gardner (talk) 16:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)}}
==Legal threat==
==Legal threat==
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==Provenance==
==Provenance==
In 2011, Wikipedia banned a longtime contributor who happened to be affiliated with the GNAA. This contributor had been collecting IRC logs over his several years of contributing to Wikipedia, and he published these to Gnaa.eu in 2011, shortly after his ban from Wikipedia. Many Wikipedians were exposed as using abusive and misogynistic language, which proved embarrassing to them after they had progressed in the ranks of the Wikimedia Foundation and its chapters. The user's affiliation with the GNAA proved a convenient excuse to deny the validity of the logs, but certain Wikipedians have tacitly admitted to the accuracy of the logs by [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=566824375 apologizing for things they said on IRC], and [[User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2011-11-24|which were accurately represented]] by the logs. After the GNAA stopped publishing the logs, Wikipedialogs.com was set up to take over this vital service.
In 2011, Wikipedia banned a longtime contributor who happened to be affiliated with the GNAA. This contributor had been collecting IRC logs over his several years of contributing to Wikipedia, and he published these to GNAA's website in 2011, and Wikipedialogs republished them in 2012, along with their own logs. Many Wikipedians were exposed as using abusive and misogynistic language, which proved embarrassing to them. Many Wikipedians deny the validity of the logs, but some of them have tacitly admitted to the accuracy of the logs by [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=566824375 apologizing for things they said on IRC], and [[User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2011-11-24|which were accurately represented]] by the logs.
==External links==
==External links==
*[http://wikipedialogs.com Official site], temporarily points to a personal website
*[http://wikipedialogs.com Official site], temporarily points to a personal website