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| − | [07:32] <Raymie> How many FM radio stations fit into one Mexican state? For Veracruz, the answer is 104, and a swollen navbox of redlinks...
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| − | [07:33] <Raymie> All the state radio navboxes in Mexico are out of date, and I’ve been updating them to reflect years of AM FM migration changes. But 104!?!?!?!?
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| − | [11:11] <{soap|bed}> sad + happy ---> sappy ?
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| − | [11:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tacky
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| − | [11:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ello addshore
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| − | [11:21] <addshore> :0
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| − | [11:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Did I surprise you that much?
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| − | [12:02] <BarkingFish> Morning guys, I wonder if I could grab some opinions from you please. I am working around an article at the moment, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing_(TV_series) - it has a description of all the characters in the show, but I would like to add small thumbnails of them, purely for ID only.
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| − | [12:02] <BarkingFish> What kind of images can I use, like screenshots, etc, without breaking copyright?
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| − | [12:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> copyright is easy
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| − | [12:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> non-free content policy is harder
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| − | [12:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I'd suggest a single image with all your chars
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| − | [12:05] <Celestio> Lol sappy
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| − | [12:05] <Celestio> hello
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| − | [12:06] <{soap|bed}> hi envigado
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| − | [12:08] <BarkingFish> There are no single images with all of the characters present at one time, ToAruShiroiNeko - they would need to be cutouts from individual episodes, since not all of the characters appear in all of the episodes.
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| − | [12:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no shorts with multiple characters? no official art?
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| − | [12:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that would be strange
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| − | [12:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> something like http://wallpaperrich.ga/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/One-Piece-Cast.jpg
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| − | [12:10] <{soap|bed}> 04:28, 27 February 2015 Drmies (talk | contribs | block) changed visibility of 7 revisions on page Bing (TV series): content hidden (RD1: Blatant copyright violations)
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| − | [12:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_One_Piece_characters
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| − | [12:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> note the absence of images
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| − | [12:13] <BarkingFish> I'll have a more thorough search of google images, and see if I can come up with something of a similar nature
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| − | [12:14] <BarkingFish> There is a good one, but the problem is that it doesn't show all of the characters.
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| − | [12:14] <BarkingFish> actually, I tell a fib. It does show them all :)
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| − | [12:15] <BarkingFish> The problem is going to be that it's a copyrighted image.
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| − | [12:15] <BarkingFish> https://www.ravensburger.com/produktseiten/1024/07052_1.jpg
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| − | [12:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish thats a good one
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| − | [12:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it will be a copyrighted image regardless
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| − | [12:21] <BarkingFish> I'll have to check the NFCC then
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| − | [12:21] <BarkingFish> but if that one's good to fly, so be it!
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| − | [12:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you need it in lower resolution naturally
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| − | [12:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> look at the one piece article as referance
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| − | [12:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> On an unrelated note, the US has asked Switzerland to extradite seven Fifa officials arrested on corruption charges in May, Swiss authorities say.
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| − | [12:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> how is this news?
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| − | [12:34] <Krauss64> Hello, everyone.
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| − | [12:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hail
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| − | [12:34] <Krauss64> All hail who?
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| − | [12:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Hail, Hrothgar! Higlac is my cousin and my king.
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| − | [12:35] <Krauss64> Is it healthy to die?
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| − | [12:35] <KP-> inhale ebola
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| − | [12:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Dont inhale ebola
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| − | [12:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> if you want something unhealthy go for pure oxygen
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| − | [12:35] <Krauss64> Do people talk abou serious businesses here?
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| − | [12:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> actually yes
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| − | [12:36] <Krauss64> Oh!
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| − | [12:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> how can I help?
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| − | [12:36] <KP-> tell me 2+2 please
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| − | [12:36] <Krauss64> Oh, nothing, at the moment.
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| − | [12:36] <Krauss64> 2+2 is 2+2.
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| − | [12:36] <KP-> ohk
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| − | [12:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> thats easy... 2 + 2 is... Hmm so sin(x)^2 + cos(x)^2 = 1
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| − | [12:37] <KP-> that is really serious businesses
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| − | [12:37] <Krauss64> It's not trigonometry.
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| − | [12:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 2 + 2 = 2sin(x)^2 + 2cos(x)^2 + 2ln(e)
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| − | [12:37] <Krauss64> It would be more like log(2/-2) up to 4
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| − | [12:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> or.
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| − | [12:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 2 + 2 = 2x(sin(x)^2 + cos(x)^2 + ln(e))
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| − | [12:38] <Krauss64> I think it's a Neperian logarithm.
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| − | [12:38] <Krauss64> You see, you only have to use 10 as a base.
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| − | [12:38] <KP-> Is there any easy way to solve 2 + 2?
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| − | [12:38] <Krauss64> Depends on what you consider easy.
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| − | [12:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> KP- I dont know. My calculator doesnt take numbers.
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| − | [12:39] <Krauss64> Then use randomness.
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| − | [12:39] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 2 + 2 = (100) base 2
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| − | [12:39] <Krauss64> In this metaphysical universe, anything is possible.
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| − | [12:39] <ToAruShiroiNeko> oh!
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| − | [12:39] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 2+2=2^2
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| − | [12:40] <Krauss64> But it's not periodic!
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| − | [12:40] <Krauss64> Well, it can be...
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| − | [12:40] <Krauss64> Can be be?
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| − | [12:41] <Krauss64> Something that is, really is?
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| − | [12:41] <Krauss64> Is it possible to be the?
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| − | [12:41] <BarkingFish> Bugger.
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| − | [12:41] <Krauss64> Well.
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| − | [12:41] <BarkingFish> Can someone help me fix an alignment issue please? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing_(TV_series)#Characters
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| − | [12:42] <Krauss64> What benefits do we obtain?
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| − | [12:42] <BarkingFish> I managed to get the image uploaded, but it's busted the page layout now.
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| − | [12:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Buger?
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| − | [12:42] <Krauss64> Fish don't bark.
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| − | [12:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Burger!
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| − | [12:42] <Krauss64> They growl.
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| − | [12:42] <BarkingFish> Never heard of a dogfish?
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| − | [12:43] <Krauss64> I've heard of FishFish.
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| − | [12:43] <BarkingFish> Anyway, ideally I would like to try and get that image, next to the Characters section, but the infobox on the right is getting in the way.
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| − | [12:43] <Krauss64> A fish inside a fish.
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| − | [12:43] <Krauss64> A juxtapositiones fish.
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| − | [12:43] <Krauss64> Two juxtapositiones fish.
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| − | [12:43] <Krauss64> *juxtapositioned
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| − | [12:48] <Krauss64> Is?
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| − | [12:49] <Krauss64> I have a question on references.
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| − | [12:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> please ask?
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| − | [12:50] <BarkingFish> >>Does this look better for the layout? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing_(TV_series)
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| − | [12:50] <BarkingFish> sorry to interrupt.
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| − | [12:50] <Krauss64> If I find some information on a Wikipedia, and then put it onto a wikipedia page of another language, do I still have to mention my sources, even though I haven't viewed them personally?
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| − | [12:51] <Krauss64> *a Wikipedia page
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| − | [12:51] <Krauss64> Do you understand my gramatically-well structured question?
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| − | [12:53] <BarkingFish> Yep. And I think it largely depends on the rules of the wikipedia you're putting them onto. Some are very lax and do not require sources or refs to even be added to an article, others are so tight you could trampoline off them.
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| − | [12:53] <BarkingFish> Are you thinking of doing this on any specific wikipedia, or is this just a general question?
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| − | [12:54] <Krauss64> I ment THEIR sources, since I found them on the other Wikipedia page.
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| − | [12:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it looks fine
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| − | [12:55] <Krauss64> Ok, sorry for my english.
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| − | [12:56] <BarkingFish> oh right, then yes you do Krauss64. We generally ask for references for anything you add to an article, since what is put on here, needs to be verifiable.
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| − | [12:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish
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| − | [12:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing_(TV_series)#Characters
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| − | [12:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> how is that?
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| − | [12:57] <Krauss64> Ok, I'm asking that because maybe I don't have those references, but I still want to add that information to my article.
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| − | [12:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Krauss64 so how would we know it is not made up?
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| − | [12:57] <Krauss64> True.
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| − | [12:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I mean
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| − | [12:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont mind trusting good faith users
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| − | [12:57] <Krauss64> But it would look like I'm copying someones references.
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| − | [12:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but we have had quite a number of people whom added incorrect informaiton intentionally
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| − | [12:58] <BarkingFish> Krauss64: then what you would need to do is look at the internet and see if you can find a webpage which mentions the information you wish to add. We generally don't like self published sources, or "user generated content", where there is no editorial control.
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| − | [12:58] <Krauss64> And how do I know that their references are real?
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| − | [12:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Krauss64 you can look up their referances?
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| − | [12:58] <Krauss64> You don't accept primary sources, right?
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| − | [12:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> we do
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| − | [12:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> we generally prefer secondary sources but thats not always possible
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| − | [12:59] <BarkingFish> and ToAruShiroiNeko - that is fantastic! Nicely done.
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| − | [12:59] <Krauss64> But maybe their references are a book which I don't have, or it's hard to fins.
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| − | [12:59] <Krauss64> *find
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| − | [12:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that can be hard, but libraries do exist
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| − | [12:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> or you can ask a wikipedian with easier access to one
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| − | [12:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you dont have to do this alone.
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| − | [13:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> this can take time, naturally
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| − | [13:00] <Krauss64> Libraries don't have all the books in the world.
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| − | [13:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> some do
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| − | [13:01] <Krauss64> Some don't.
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| − | [13:01] <Krauss64> Many of them don't.
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| − | [13:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> a wikipedian may have access to LoC
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| − | [13:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that has practically everything imagineable
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| − | [13:02] <Krauss64> ?
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| − | [13:04] <BarkingFish> any admins on the floor?
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| − | [13:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am on the floor but not an admin
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| − | [13:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I applied for one but to acuire it I have to freeze hell
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| − | [13:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so that snowballs can hanve a chance of survival
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| − | [13:06] <BarkingFish> Back in a tick, I may not need that admin. Just waiting on someone to contact me.
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| − | [13:08] <Krauss64> Has anyone heard of Unununium?
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| − | [13:09] <BarkingFish> I am going to need an admin, I need a block whacking on someone.
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| − | [13:10] <BarkingFish> in a moment or two at least. Maybe not... AARGH!
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| − | [13:10] <Krauss64> You enjoy blocking people?
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| − | [13:11] <BarkingFish> No, there's a user who is currently using a Wikimedia foundation suffix to their username, and we can't verify whether they're actually WMF staff
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| − | [13:11] <Krauss64> Oh.
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| − | [13:11] <BarkingFish> Hi dbrant!
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| − | [13:11] <BarkingFish> You might be just the person I'm after.
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| − | [13:12] <Krauss64> Hey, can I upload pictures on WC made by me?
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| − | [13:12] <dbrant> BarkingFish: hello!
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| − | [13:12] <BarkingFish> dbrant: are you able to help with a suspect WMF account on enwp?
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| − | [13:13] <BarkingFish> I just spoke to Glaisher, we can't verify if it's genuine, but there was another imposter earlier today apparently.
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| − | [13:13] <BarkingFish> I'll pm you details if that's ok.
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| − | [13:16] <Krauss64> Excuse me, can flooding damage a chat room?
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| − | [13:16] <Krauss64> How can it do it?
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| − | [13:18] <BarkingFish> Flooding can't damage a chatroom, however it can get you kicked or banned from a channel, or k-lined if you do it in more than one channel.
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| − | [13:20] <Glaisher> BarkingFish: It's a valid account.
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| − | [13:20] <BarkingFish> Thank you for the confirmation, I was just getting dbrant to have a quick hunt as well, since you said it might take a few hours.
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| − | [13:20] <BarkingFish> Cheers for the help!
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| − | [13:21] <Glaisher> I got in touch with another person.
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| − | [13:22] <BarkingFish> Either way, I can rest easy now, knowing that it's not another imposter :P
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| − | [13:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WC as in me?
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| − | [13:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am a certain WC>
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| − | [13:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> :/
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| − | [13:26] <Krauss64> Oh, nothing.
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| − | [13:26] <Krauss64> I ment Wikimedia Commons
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| − | [13:27] <Krauss64> Are logarithms fun?
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| − | [13:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/1280_720/images/live/p0/2w/3g/p02w3gxh.jpg O_O
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| − | [13:29] <HelloMousie> ToAruShiroiNeko: hey
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| − | [13:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ello
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| − | [13:29] <HelloMousie> Washington Navy Yard on lockdown after report of shooter
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| − | [13:30] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ya
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| − | [13:30] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I think they should move the navy facility off shore :p
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| − | [13:31] <Krauss64> That is macabre.
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| − | [13:31] <HelloMousie> I am so tired. I was wondering why they sound weren't coming out from the speakers... headphones plugged
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| − | [13:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> haha
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| − | [13:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I do that a lot
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| − | [13:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I rarely am stupid enough to unplug them when something is playing
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| − | [13:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> as I turned the volume to max to figure out why no sound is coming
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| − | [13:34] <BarkingFish> right guys, I'm going to shuffle. I need to go fix some shit before I go home.
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| − | [13:34] <BarkingFish> see ya
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| − | [13:36] <HelloMousie> I haven't slept in 76 hours my brain and body are failing
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| − | [13:39] <comets> \o/
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| − | [13:39] <HelloMousie> comets: do you speak Hindi?
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| − | [13:39] <comets> ya
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| − | [13:40] <HelloMousie> How different is Fiji Hindi from Indian Hindi?
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| − | [13:40] <comets> fiji hindi is rajasthani hindi ..
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| − | [13:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> thats rough
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| − | [13:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> fiji has hindi
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| − | [13:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> O_O
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| − | [13:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> is Fiji stil under military rule?
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| − | [13:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Or did the military find a new hoby?
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| − | [13:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> say fishing.
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| − | [13:43] <comets> soemewhat
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| − | �06[13:46] * ToAruShiroiNeko imagines generals dedicating their time to fishing competitions
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| − | [13:46] <HelloMousie> why do people read side effects of pills....
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| − | [13:46] <HelloMousie> Medicine that is...
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| − | [13:46] <HelloMousie> All of them got side effects, ugh
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| − | [13:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> because it is good to know what to expect
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| − | [13:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> if I am feeling nasious I can assume that I got ill
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| − | [13:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but in fact its the side effect
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| − | [13:47] <HelloMousie> Doc gave 12 pills to my mom she threw them all out spent 200 CAD on them
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| − | [13:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> also you may chose not to take the medication if you think side effects arent worth it
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| − | [13:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm
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| − | [13:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I'd go and read side effects first before blowing money on it
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| − | [13:48] <HelloMousie> But its a must
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| − | [13:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that reminds me I need to get my bottle of enterol
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| − | [13:48] <HelloMousie> All the pills have side fects ..
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| − | [13:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> not all
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| − | [13:48] <HelloMousie> I cant tpye well, lack of sleep and stress getting to me
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| − | [13:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> please dont be stressed
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| − | [13:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> when in doubt whatch videos of kittens being kittens
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| − | [13:49] <HelloMousie> ins't enterol for infectious d....
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| − | [13:49] <HelloMousie> diarrhoea
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| − | [13:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yes but it has other uses
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| − | [13:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> if you get food poisoning for instance
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| − | [13:49] <HelloMousie> I would get a typhoid shot
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| − | [13:49] <HelloMousie> and avoid outside food :p
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| − | [13:49] <HelloMousie> I am sure comets could cook some fish dishes
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| − | �06[13:51] * comets hates fish
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| − | [13:51] <comets> yes i can see the irony ..
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| − | [13:59] <HelloMousie> comets: what do you then?
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| − | [13:59] <comets> not fish
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| − | [14:00] <HelloMousie> So you can get red meat, and chicken there?
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| − | [14:03] <HelloMousie> Do we have any Rachel Raquel on Wikipedia? or IRIC here something
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| − | [14:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I try to avoid outside food
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| − | [14:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but all my food, save rasberries come from outside
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| − | [14:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont have a farm under my command
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| − | [14:04] <Qcoder00> ToAruShiroiNeko: Generals devoting time to a Fishing contest... Isn't that a Phil Shilvers plot?
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| − | [14:04] <Qcoder00> XD
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| − | [14:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Qcoder00 possible
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| − | [14:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> But fiji military is serious buinsess
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| − | [14:05] <HelloMousie> Hi Qcoder00
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| − | [14:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> They rank 146th
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| − | [14:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Antigua_and_Barbuda_Defence_Force <- wow
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| − | [14:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they have 75 reservists
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| − | [14:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you could fill 1/3rd a passenger jet with that
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| − | [14:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Panama has no military? Wow
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| − | [14:09] <HelloMousie> I knew a model in Panama, she was a bitch didn't bother to go further with her.
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| − | [14:10] <HelloMousie> She was religious "Catholic" yet showed some skin in poses.
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| − | [14:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> By that logic my seat cussion is a catholic
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| − | [14:26] <Krauss64> Hello
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| − | [14:26] <Krauss64> Anyone?
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| − | [14:28] <Krauss64> Is Bitcoin valuable?
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| − | [14:29] <Krauss64> Can you declare war on death?
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| − | [14:29] <Krauss64> Is it healthy to die?
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| − | [14:31] <Krauss64> Are the laws of physics different in other parts of the planet?
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| − | [14:32] <GEOFBOT> hi Krauss64
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| − | [14:32] <Krauss64> Hi GEOFBOT
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| − | [14:32] <Qcoder00> Krauss - Bitcoin is only as vlaubale as people are prepared topay for it... In this instance its like a [[tradable commidity]]
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| − | [14:32] <Krauss64> Are you a bot?
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| − | [14:32] <GEOFBOT> why are you panicking
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| − | [14:32] <GEOFBOT> no soy un bot
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| − | [14:32] <Krauss64> Ah, está bien.
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| − | [14:33] <Qcoder00> Krayss64: A War on death can be declared but it depends on wht you mean by a war
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| − | [14:33] <Krauss64> You declare engaging hostile actions to the concept of death.
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| − | [14:33] <Qcoder00> Hmm
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| − | [14:34] <Krauss64> Well?
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| − | [14:34] <Qcoder00> And on your last point : "Laws" of physics are understood to be Universal, how those laws affect llocal conditions can vary
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| − | [14:35] <Krauss64> But what about black holes?
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| − | [14:35] <Krauss64> They don't follow Newton's laws on gravity.
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| − | [14:35] <Qcoder00> Erm..
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| − | [14:36] <Krauss64> And they're IN our Universe.
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| − | [14:36] <GEOFBOT> well, Newton's law of gravity turns out to be an approximation
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| − | [14:36] <Krauss64> True.
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| − | [14:36] <Qcoder00> If not read up enough on Relativity to be able to give a sensible answer on Black holes
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| − | [14:36] <Qcoder00> I've
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| − | [14:36] <Krauss64> What part of Relativity?
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| − | [14:36] <Krauss64> E=mc square¿
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| − | [14:37] <GEOFBOT> there was a minutephysics video about newton's gravity being an approximation
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| − | [14:37] <Krauss64> Do Kepler's laws and Newton's laws coincide?
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| − | [14:38] <GEOFBOT> I am honestly not trained in physics so I don't want to say something wrong and make a fool of myself
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| − | [14:38] <Krauss64> Does existence really exist?
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| − | [14:39] <Krauss64> Does non-existence exist?
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| − | [14:42] <Krauss64> Does it?
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| − | [14:42] <comets> guys, take this to #wikipedia-nerds :P
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| − | [14:43] <Krauss64> Where is that?
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| − | [14:47] <Krauss64> Does existence exist?
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| − | [14:49] <Krauss64> Anyone?
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| − | [14:51] <{soap|bed}> hi
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| − | [14:51] <Krauss64> Hi
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| − | [14:51] <Krauss64> Do you exist?
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| − | [14:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Umm
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| − | [14:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> existence is defined by the absence of existence
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| − | [14:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> something exists because it is surrounded by absence of an existence
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| − | [14:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I exsit because I am surrounded by an absence of me
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| − | [14:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> this is #wikipedia-en, don't try to out philosophy us.
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| − | [14:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> :D
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| − | [14:52] <Krauss64> How?
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| − | [14:53] <Krauss64> In a good way or a bad way?
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| − | [14:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> In a funny way
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| − | [14:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Blackholes blow.
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| − | [14:53] <Krauss64> What are your thoughts on psychological egoism?
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| − | [14:53] <Krauss64> We humans seek our own interests.
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| − | [14:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I try not to think of it.
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| − | [14:54] <Krauss64> Why not?
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| − | [14:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I spend my time more on more relevant matters
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| − | [14:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I currently am contemplating if my wall is a perfect 90 degrees from the floor
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| − | [14:55] <Krauss64> Do you like planes?
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| − | [14:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Do you always ask random questions?
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| − | [14:55] <Krauss64> Unless you live in a pyramid.
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| − | [14:55] <Krauss64> No, it's just that I edit articles on aircraft.
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| − | [14:56] <Krauss64> And create them, of course.
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| − | [14:59] <Krauss64> Is Megalomys Desmarestii a rodent?
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| − | [14:59] <darev> Hello!
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| − | [14:59] <Krauss64> Hi darev.
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| − | [15:00] <Krauss64> Do you exist as a consciousness?
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| − | [15:03] <HelloMousie> Krauss64: darev stays away from stupidity to be honest.
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| − | [15:03] <HelloMousie> And drama.
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| − | [15:03] <HelloMousie> I know darev for at least 3 years now.
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| − | [15:04] <Krauss64> Are you insinuating that I am saying stupid things?
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| − | [15:04] <Krauss64> They are just philosophical questions.
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| − | [15:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> not really
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| − | [15:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> she is outright declaring this
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| − | [15:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> and I +1 it
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| − | [15:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> try #philosophy
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| − | [15:05] <Krauss64> What is that?
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| − | [15:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> not our patience.
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| − | [15:05] <{soap|bed}> lol.
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| − | [15:05] <HelloMousie> I am a she now? Brilliant.
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| − | [15:05] <Krauss64> I thought this was a place to discuss Wikipedia issues.
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| − | [15:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> HelloMousie idea was to confuse Krauss64
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| − | [15:05] <{soap|bed}> nice syllepsis
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| − | [15:06] <HelloMousie> I have no gender.
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| − | [15:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Krauss64 of which you did none of.
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| − | [15:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> HelloMousie genders are overrated anyways
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| − | [15:06] <HelloMousie> I guess you're .5 % correct.
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| − | [15:06] <HelloMousie> out of the 1 %
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| − | [15:06] <Krauss64> Well, I came to ask a question about references.
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| − | [15:06] <HelloMousie> And?
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| − | [15:06] <Krauss64> But I guess I'm not welcome here :L
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| − | [15:07] <HelloMousie> And?
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| − | [15:07] <HelloMousie> ToAruShiroiNeko: I guess Qcoder00 's scores.. +1 is a thing now then.
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| − | [15:07] <Krauss64> And what?
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| − | [15:07] <Krauss64> I still didn't get my answer.
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| − | [15:08] <HelloMousie> Shouldn't you be on the beach or something, after all you're from Spain
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| − | [15:08] <{soap|bed}> almost everyone is welcomer here. turst me, youd be gone by now if you werent welcome
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| − | [15:08] <Krauss64> That is stereotypicall.
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| − | [15:08] <{soap|bed}> sure there's like 68 bans but 67 of them are for the same guy.We're actually pretty friendly and open
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| − | [15:08] <Krauss64> I see.
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| − | [15:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33366020 <- Durban solves parking problem
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| − | [15:09] <Krauss64> Wow.
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| − | [15:09] <Krauss64> So what do people discuss here anyway?
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| − | [15:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> {soap|bed} 67 bans for one person? Thats cute
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| − | [15:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> {soap|bed} do you think it would be a good idea to visit the European Parliment as a group?
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| − | [15:10] <{soap|bed}> who? us?
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| − | [15:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am tempted to give them a peice of my mind
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| − | [15:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> US wikipedians
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| − | [15:10] <{soap|bed}> to protest the FoP thing?
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| − | [15:10] <Krauss64> Have you ever checked out the Catalan Wikipedia?
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| − | [15:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> rather to talk with MPs
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| − | [15:10] <{soap|bed}> yeah i'll go
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| − | [15:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> are you anywhere near brussels?
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| − | [15:10] <{soap|bed}> me??
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| − | [15:11] <{soap|bed}> surely you know who i am?
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| − | [15:11] <{soap|bed}> we've both been in this channel for like 8 years. but OK. No I live in the USA
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| − | [15:11] <Krauss64> One last question: If Pinocchio says "my nose will now grow", will it grow or won't it?
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| − | [15:12] <{soap|bed}> if there seriously was a pan-Wikipedia meetup in Brussels to protest the new law, though, I would go there just to take part in it
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| − | [15:12] <HelloMousie> wow.... I always thought ToAruShiroiNeko and {soap|bed} were closer to each other as people than me to both of you guess I love you guys the same <3
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| − | [15:12] <{soap|bed}> krauss: yes of course it wil
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| − | [15:12] <Krauss64> No, there isn't.
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| − | [15:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> {soap|bed} I was just checking
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| − | [15:12] <Krauss64> Who would care of our benefits?
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| − | [15:13] <Krauss64> You mean the new law that will badly affect Commons?
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| − | [15:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> people move around all the time after all
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| − | [15:13] <{soap|bed}> i always picture you as this: http://media.womengineer.org/2015/02/chemistrycatpickupline_zps5e5877f6.jpg
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| − | [15:13] <Krauss64> Very smart.
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| − | [15:14] <{soap|bed}> admitteldy though thats partly because Blofeld used the sig "White Cat" for a while and early on i thought you were the same editor
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| − | [15:14] <Krauss64> Am I the typical "newbie" in a chat room, that soon disappears forever?
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| − | [15:15] <{soap|bed}> probably
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| − | [15:15] <Krauss64> I understand.
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| − | [15:16] <Krauss64> Have you ever thought of having an Einsteinium skeleton?
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| − | [15:18] <{soap|bed}> wouldnt i set off the metal detectors everytime i went shopping?
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| − | [15:19] <Krauss64> it must be pretty heavy.
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| − | [15:19] <{soap|bed}> and wouldnt i die?
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| − | [15:19] <Krauss64> Yes, you would.
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| − | [15:19] <Krauss64> Obviously.
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| − | [15:19] <{soap|bed}> i'd probably survive for a few minutes or so, just long enouigh to think i was on the world's most poewrful drug trip
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| − | [15:20] <Krauss64> But you would be able to melt people.
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| − | [15:20] <{soap|bed}> as a side erffect the radiation wold be so strong that everyone who went to my funeral would also die
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| − | [15:20] <Krauss64> haha
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| − | [15:20] <Krauss64> Your casket would also break under your weight.
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| − | [15:21] <Krauss64> But you would be radioactive for only 200 days or so.
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| − | [15:22] <Krauss64> Before you synthetized into Mendelevium.
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| − | [15:22] <Krauss64> Wait, you would still be radioactive.
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| − | [15:22] <Qcoder00> Would it even break a Roman Coffin?
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| − | [15:23] <Qcoder00> Which were lead?
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| − | [15:23] <Krauss64> Let's see...if you weigh 80kg
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| − | [15:23] <Krauss64> No, if your normal skeleton weighs 30kg
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| − | [15:23] <Krauss64> Then an einsteinium skeleton would weigh like 600kg
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| − | [15:24] <Krauss64> So yes, it probably would.
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| − | [15:26] <Krauss64> Can death die?
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| − | [15:27] <Krauss64> Hey, ToAruShiroiNeko, have you heard of the Great Attractor?
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| − | [15:42] <HelloMousie> I hate Obama even more
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| − | [15:42] <HelloMousie> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11712237/US-blocks-attempts-by-Arab-allies-to-fly-heavy-weapons-directly-to-Kurds-to-fight-Islamic-State.html
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| − | [15:42] <HelloMousie> Seriously, this idiot is Iran's agent
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| − | [15:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> nah
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| − | [15:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> such a thing cannot be a simple executive decision
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| − | [15:47] <HelloMousie> I find Obama to be a dick.
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| − | [15:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I think he has one
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| − | [15:49] <HelloMousie> According to police, 60-year-old Donald F. Beard attached a camera to a long metal pole and used the device to record videos through a window for more than a year.
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| − | [15:50] <HelloMousie> While searching Beard's electronic devices, detectives say they uncovered 16 videos of the woman, including one showing her naked. Beard is facing four charges, including using a camera to record a private residence.
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| − | [15:50] <HelloMousie> Court documents say Beard told police he wanted to collect evidence of the woman spending time with married men so he could tell their wives.
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| − | [15:51] <HelloMousie> ToAruShiroiNeko: perfect excuse no?
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| − | [15:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm
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| − | [15:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> such a good samaritan
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| − | [16:02] <HelloMousie> vv
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| − | [16:02] <HelloMousie> weird
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| − | [16:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yeah
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| − | [16:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> scumbags will be scunbags
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| − | [16:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> please dont take my sarcastic tone as aproval of that detestable behaviour :)
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| − | [16:09] <HelloMousie> Of who?
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| − | [16:09] <HelloMousie> Did I miss something?
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| − | [16:13] <HelloMousie> ToAruShiroiNeko: Can I ask a weird question?
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| − | [16:15] <HelloMousie> Or anyone else.... doesn't matter, my wrist been paining like a *** for 3 weeks, time to go for a check up?
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| − | [16:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sure
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| − | [16:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I would go
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| − | [16:19] <HelloMousie> My doctor literally broke a bone by mistake in my finger.
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| − | [16:29] <Interpuncts> wut
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| − | [16:29] <Krauss64> Anyone there?
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| − | [16:30] <Interpuncts> me, why?
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| − | [16:30] <Interpuncts> not that I'm important or anything. I'm really not
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| − | [16:30] <Krauss64> Do you know what Unununium is?
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| − | [16:46] <Interpuncts> sounds like a synthesized element or something really science-y
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| − | [16:47] <Interpuncts> ah, he's gone
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| − | [17:31] <TrueCRaysball> So quick question: Is there a policy against ignoring an Articles for Creation ruling and moving the page to mainspace yourself as long as you have a consensus from the appropriate WikiProject?
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| − | [17:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> TrueCRaysball it would be a spectacularly bad thing to do
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| − | [17:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but I dont think policy bans it
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| − | [17:45] <TrueCRaysball> ToAruShiroiNeko: Thing is, we created the list article after a LONG LENGTHY discussion the pro wrestling project, and it should have been created in the mainspace right away, the problem took hold when an editor made a mistake and created in the draft space and submitted it to AFC instead. And AFC has now declined it twice.
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| − | [17:52] <{soap|bed}> lol @ "long lengthy"
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| − | [18:04] <TrueCRaysball> {soap|bed}: It's called "emphasis".
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| − | [19:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Wat
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| − | [19:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> uh
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| − | [19:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hello SailorHaumea
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| − | [19:38] <Interpuncts> are there any other Wikipedia channels that are more active?
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| − | [19:40] <{soap|bed}> the help channel possibly. but i never go there
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| − | [19:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> {soap|bed} I have seen you go there once secretly >:D
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| − | [20:07] <Qcoder00> Amortias : Busy?
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| − | [20:08] <Amortias> for a little bit fraid so
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| − | [20:08] <Qcoder00> So when you are free
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| − | [20:20] <KTC> ToAruShiroiNeko, about?
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| − | [20:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> KTC sure
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| − | [20:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> always here :p
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| − | [21:31] <JamesEG> perchance there be any astronomers here?
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| − | [22:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> JamesEG yes?
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| − | [22:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> What is the question?
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| − | [22:17] <JamesEG> have you ever heard of the nickname ‘lord of the rings’ for Saturn?
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| − | [22:21] <JamesEG> i mean, sure some people could use it as a colorful title here or there
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| − | [22:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> JamesEG I have heard ring related words for saturn
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| − | [22:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> lord wasnt one of them
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| − | [22:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> astronomers tend to name things in a boring manner
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| − | [22:31] <SigmaWP> what about the motherfucking hexagon on motherfucking saturn
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| − | [22:34] <JamesEG> experiment with a spinning circular tub? morons. until you can properly simulate a rotating sphere, your experiment is about as useful as stirring mud in the street.
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| − | [22:34] <JamesEG> but i thought the eye hole was freakier.
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| − | [22:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ?
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| − | [22:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Objection.
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| − | [22:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it was a pie hole
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| − | [23:00] <ZeroSerenity> http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=474007535
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| − | [23:18] <JamesEG> Zero Serenity Now?
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| − | [23:19] <JamesEG> or maybe Mal's first ship must be retired, and his next one is named the Serenity-1?
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| − | [23:27] <Lycurgus> wha
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| − | [23:27] <Lycurgus> t's the process to stop a thread
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| − | [23:27] <Lycurgus> and the associated activity
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| − | [23:28] <Lycurgus> on the socialism article
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| − | [23:28] <Lycurgus> where you see the template saying the discussion is closed
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| − | [23:29] <JamesEG> you mean they are still adding to it?
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| − | [23:29] <Lycurgus> looks that way
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| − | [23:30] <JamesEG> do your own edit, separating it to a new section, and remind them of the reasons why it was closed?
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| − | [23:30] <JamesEG> that way you didn't undo any of their stuff, so they can't complain.
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| − | [23:30] <JamesEG> I just made that up now, though. No idea if it would work.
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| − | [23:31] <Lycurgus> i'd like to avoid doing anything adminish on this article
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| − | [23:32] <Lycurgus> but looks like CJK won't be satisfied unless there's a "Socialism Lost" section
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| − | [23:33] <JamesEG> what initials
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| − | [23:33] <Lycurgus> which is so messed up in so many ways but the main one is that it seems to stand outside time
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| − | [23:33] <Lycurgus> that's the user's nick like this is mine
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| − | [23:34] <SigmaWP> ... on the socialism article?
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| − | [23:35] <JamesEG> well I was guessing that they were initials for the name.
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| − | [23:35] <SigmaWP> Lycurgus: Yeah CJK is fucking batshit insane
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| − | [23:35] <Lycurgus> i thought "chinese japanese korean" but no idea
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| − | [23:35] <SigmaWP> racist
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| − | [23:35] <Oshwah> lol
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| − | [23:35] <Oshwah> Hi everyone.
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| − | [23:36] <Lycurgus> yello Oshwah
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| − | [23:36] <Oshwah> hi Lycurgus
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| − | [23:36] <SigmaWP> Lycurgus: I actually just wrote my second reply in that article
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| − | [23:36] <SigmaWP> I mean the talk page.
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| − | [23:36] <SigmaWP> Essentially asking him how much research he's actually done on the topic on hand
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| − | [23:37] <SigmaWP> Hopefully this stops when he realises that he's too uninformed to say anything
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| − | [23:37] <SigmaWP> This may take a while, sadly.
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| − | [23:38] <Lycurgus> i try to avoid any negative associations with this persona aside from matter of factness, just hate to see the public discourse clotted like that, i'm sure if it goes on the thread is going to be closed
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| − | [23:38] <SigmaWP> how did you find the discussion anyway
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| − | [23:38] <SigmaWP> are people linking to it
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| − | [23:39] <Lycurgus> after it kept going on, I stopped looking at the details
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| − | [23:43] <JamesEG> besides, ‘socialism’ is an abstracted or idealized concept. it can't “lose” in the way that the word should mean, to be unfixed or detached.
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| − | [23:44] <comets> anyone knows how to get rid of that ugly green bullet points on watchlist for good?
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| − | [23:44] <SigmaWP> JamesEG: If you wanna talk about that shit you'd better get on the talk page
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| − | [23:44] <JamesEG> yeah, i don't think it would help though.
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| − | [23:44] <SigmaWP> probably not
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| − | [23:45] <JamesEG> i will, though.
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| − | [23:45] <JamesEG> wow that's a tangled mess.
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| − | [23:46] <SigmaWP> [16:34:59] <SigmaWP> : Yeah CJK is fucking batshit insane
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| − | [23:47] <JamesEG> at least there's a linear timeline
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| − | [23:48] <Lycurgus> comets, you can override css
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| − | [23:49] <comets> it was overwritten before, some idiot re-enabled it recently :/
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| − | [23:49] <Lycurgus> i meant your personal css
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| − | [23:54] <SigmaWP> JamesEG: keep in mind that when you make your edit on that talk page you're choosing to align with either the editors who have read Marx and Lenin and Proudhon and Rousseau and other socialists, or the editors who don't know what they're talking about
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| − | [23:54] <JamesEG> ooh battlelines
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| − | [23:55] <JamesEG> anyways i'll just remark on the semantics, like i said.
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| − | [23:55] <SigmaWP> JamesEG: there is no such thing as 'neutral' in that thread
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| − | [23:55] <SigmaWP> just saying
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| − | [23:55] <SigmaWP> choose wisely.
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| − | [00:04] <eve_> holoa
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| − | [00:04] <eve_> hola
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| − | [00:43] <JamesEG> adios
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| − | [00:45] <SigmaWP> JamesEG: bye
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| − | [00:45] <SigmaWP> JamesEG: you brave soul
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| − | [00:45] <JamesEG> no, i meant to eve_
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| − | [00:46] <SigmaWP> oh
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| − | [00:46] <JamesEG> i did submit my edit, tried to be as non-confrontational while nudging the discussion in the right direction, which is that it's a pointless one.
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| − | [00:48] <JamesEG> besides, i forget who mentioned it, but (extrinsic) capitalism isn't even in opposition to socialism.
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| − | [00:48] <JamesEG> that's why the soviets failed.
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| − | [00:48] <JamesEG> at least the way that I see it.
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| − | [00:49] <SigmaWP> we'll see what happens next then
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| − | [00:49] <JamesEG> i feel bad for CJK though. at least they didn't degrade to a shouting match, but they still couldn't see they were in the wrong.
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| − | [00:56] <SigmaWP> JamesEG: yeah :(
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| − | [00:57] <ZeroSerenity> As for that picture, one of my operators fell down a pit.
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| − | [00:57] <JamesEG> stupid People's Front of Judea.
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| − | [00:57] <JamesEG> no, we're the People's Front of Judea!
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| − | [00:58] <DustinVS> New RfA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Cyberpower678
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| − | [01:00] <SigmaWP> #canvassing
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| − | [01:02] <JamesEG> is that a tweeter channel?
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| − | [01:03] <DustinVS> SigmaWP: Did I bias my link? No. How on Earth is this cancassing?
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| − | [01:03] <DustinVS> I haven't even given an opinion on that and probably never will.
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| − | [01:03] <DustinVS> I just linked it FYI. What's wrong with that?
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| − | [01:04] <JamesEG> everything. you're going up the river, Dusty.
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| − | [01:04] <SigmaWP> Geez, calm down
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| − | [01:08] <DustinVS> I don't appreciate your accusation, so if you think I am overreacting, now you know why.
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| − | [01:10] <JamesEG> you're raquel rico, Zero?
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| − | [01:11] <SigmaWP> I was kidding.
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| − | [01:12] <DustinVS> Sarcasm/jokes don't go the best in text only, so sorry if I misinterpreted you
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| − | [01:13] <DustinVS> I'm not that completely unhumorable person by the way, it's just the text thing
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| − | [01:16] <SigmaWP> Whoo.
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| − | [01:17] <SigmaWP> psh.
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| − | [01:17] <SigmaWP> JamesEG: 01:07, 3 July 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-555) . . Soviet Union (Undid revision 669710205 by Σ (talk) rv, this issue is heavily debated (see Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact) and as such you have absolutely no right to force one view on the public) (current)
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| − | [01:17] <SigmaWP> look at this guy
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| − | [01:18] <SigmaWP> dem be fightin words
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| − | [01:30] <JamesEG> why keep deleting that passage?
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| − | [01:31] <JamesEG> does CJK disagree with a causal relationship?
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| − | [01:32] <SigmaWP> [16:34:59] <SigmaWP> : Yeah CJK is fucking batshit insane
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| − | [06:35] <Chess> "Pending decision due June 26"
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| − | [06:35] <Chess> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Lightbreather/Proposed_decision
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| − | [06:35] <Chess> it's July 3 where in the world is ArbCom
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| − | [06:37] <Chess> ArbCom is late af
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| − | [06:46] <Chess> GorillaWarfare: why ArbCom can't into decision
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| − | [06:50] <Chess> OK what is this major stuff going on at wikipeeeeedia
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| − | [07:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Chess, where in the world is ArbCom? Wherever Carmen Santiago is probably.
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| − | [07:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> If I had to guess... Syria?
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| − | [07:14] <Chess> along with Waldo
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| − | [07:14] <Chess> Along the Oregon Trail
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| − | [07:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> NO, Waldo is in canada.
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| − | [07:15] <Chess> remember you can't beat the Oregon trail on easy
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| − | [07:15] <Chess> we need more of those games
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| − | [07:16] <Chess> wage guerilla warfare against the British
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| − | [07:19] <PontoCom_BR> bye, people.
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| − | [08:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Chess I think the british would not appreicate that
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| − | [08:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it may be easier to coax them with tea
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| − | [08:33] <Chess> But the americannz will love it
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| − | [08:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont think Canadians care for such british hate
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| − | [08:41] <HelloMousie> Chess is Canadian?
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| − | [08:42] <Chess> you don't say
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| − | [08:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> HelloMousie, I suggest changing your doctor
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| − | [08:43] <HelloMousie> ToAruShiroiNeko: I am confused and lack of sleep... I always thought Chess is Norwegian
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| − | [08:43] <HelloMousie> IS was whatever
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| − | [08:44] <Chess> I'm part norwegian
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| − | [08:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I always thought Chess was a game native to India
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| − | [08:47] <HelloMousie> ToAruShiroiNeko: do you smoke?
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| − | [08:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> nop
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| − | [08:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the kind of insanity you here me is not influenced by smoking :p
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| − | [08:49] <HelloMousie> Reminds me of RCMP smoking pot
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| − | [08:49] <Chess> chess is not native to India
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| − | [08:49] <Chess> unless you enjoy using the vizier
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| − | [08:49] <HelloMousie> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-police-sorry-for-x-rated-chopper-talk-overheard-by-public-1.3123905
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| − | [08:49] <Chess> And no castling
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| − | [08:50] <HelloMousie> A Winnipeg woman who heard two police officers in a helicopter broadcast comments about oral sex — comments they made without realizing their public address system was on — says she wants them disciplined.
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| − | [08:50] <Chess> And no en passent
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| − | [08:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> HelloMousie so they will recieve spanking?
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| − | [08:50] <HelloMousie> I sometimes wonder if ToAruShiroiNeko was in the military or something.
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| − | [08:51] <HelloMousie> Back to Star Wars
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| − | [08:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Nop
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| − | [08:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Not military.
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| − | [09:01] <HelloMousie> Hi closedmouth been a while
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| − | [09:02] <closedmouth> you said that to me like two weeks ago
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| − | [09:02] <HelloMousie> I did?
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| − | [09:02] <HelloMousie> ToAruShiroiNeko: @PatOndabak @afixedaddress the only other words we could discern were "....too much body hair."
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| − | [09:10] <HelloMousie> Whats happening in Ntherlands...
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| − | [09:11] <HelloMousie> I always miss out on the fun stuff
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| − | [12:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atomium&type=revision&diff=669764203&oldid=669466693
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| − | [12:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am tempted to revert this
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| − | [12:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/9carney
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| − | [12:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> this account is rather strange
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| − | [12:13] <Penwhale> ... Well, considerign the fact that FoP doesn't exist in Belgium
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| − | [12:13] <Penwhale> that image probably needs to be nuked too
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| − | [12:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Penwhale yes
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| − | [12:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay_Round_Agreements_Act#Films_previously_in_the_public_domain <- when would these be PD?
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| − | [12:21] <Penwhale> ToAruShiroiNeko: A work meeting these requirements is
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| − | [12:21] <Penwhale> protected ``for the remainder of the term of copyright that the work
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| − | [12:21] <Penwhale> would have otherwise been granted in the United States if the work
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| − | [12:21] <Penwhale> never entered the public domain in the United States.
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| − | [12:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yes but copyright expires
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| − | [12:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> when would be that?
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| − | [12:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I want to show how much the date moved
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| − | [12:24] <Penwhale> http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap3.html#303
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| − | [12:24] <Penwhale> Dec 31 2047
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| − | [12:30] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Error?
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| − | [12:33] <Penwhale> ToAruShiroiNeko: what error?
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| − | [12:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> wikipedia one
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| − | [12:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it dissapeared
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| − | [12:35] <Penwhale> ToAruShiroiNeko: because I nuked it.
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| − | [12:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you nuked wikipedia?
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| − | [12:35] <Penwhale> lol
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| − | [12:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> dont nuke my wiki bro
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| − | [12:35] <Penwhale> nuked the image :p
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| − | [12:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> image shall be exterminated
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| − | [12:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2009/04/uraa-held-unconstitutional
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| − | [12:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WAT?
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| − | [12:43] <Migrant> anyone here who understand russian ?
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| − | [13:04] <darev> Hello!
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| − | [13:04] <Migrant> Hello darev ?
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| − | [13:04] <Migrant> anyone here who understand russian ?
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| − | [13:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> #wikipedia-ru ?
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| − | [13:08] <HelloMousie> No but... russavia used to seek for Russian speakers from grinder
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| − | [14:54] <balrog> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Birgitta_Jónsdóttir&type=revision&diff=669773190&oldid=657376415 -- looks like something that should have been picked up by cluebot?
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| − | [15:00] <enterprisey> balrog: well, it wasn't their first edit, nor did it insert profanity or stuff commonly inserted by vandals
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| − | [15:00] <enterprisey> this is just me guessing about how cluebot works
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| − | [15:00] <Gangster> ?
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| − | [15:00] <balrog> ahh
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| − | [15:01] <balrog> their other edits were inserting the same text into related pages
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| − | [15:01] <Gangster> hello gandoo
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| − | [15:01] <Gangster> :D
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| − | [15:01] <balrog> (looks like they hit all three Icelandic Pirate Party MPs)
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| − | [15:43] <Gangster> hello
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| − | [15:43] <Amortias> afternoon
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| − | [15:43] <Gangster> night here :D
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| − | [15:44] <Amortias> i coudl say night but then people might think im going away :P
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| − | [15:44] <Gangster> :P
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| − | [15:44] <Gangster> how are you
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| − | [15:45] <Amortias> according to latest test results im alive
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| − | [15:45] <Gangster> lol
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| − | [15:46] <Amortias> yourself?
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| − | [15:47] <Gangster> fine :) shine
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| − | [15:47] <git> heh, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Design_ERA_Solutions&action=history
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| − | [15:50] <LordServer> Total noob here; If someone asked you to leave them a message on their page, does that mean to go to their User Talk and start a new topic? That's what it looks like but that feels wrong.
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| − | [15:51] <Amortias> Thats what they mean
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| − | [15:51] <LordServer> I'm sure everyone appreciates a noob who hesitates and asks for confirmation before any edits he's not 110% sure of. lo
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| − | [15:52] <Amortias> Much better to ask before you push a big red button than push a big red button and start World War 3
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| − | [15:52] <TheMesquito> Updates pls
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| − | [15:53] <Amortias> TheMesquito: Updates on what?
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| − | [15:53] <TheMesquito> 86kb/s on my system updates D:
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| − | [15:53] <Amortias> I'd loan you some of my bandwidth bt i dont think it works like that
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| − | [15:53] <TheMesquito> lol
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| − | [15:54] <TheMesquito> Updates always take a bit for some reason, maybe bad repos
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| − | [15:56] <LordServer> could I ask a question about wikipedia back end that always made me curious, or is this room only for professional on-topic chat?
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| − | [15:56] <Amortias> Its about as professional and on topic as the guys who knock on your door saying your chimney needs repairing if im honest
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| − | [15:56] <LordServer> lol I'm going to guess that that means not too much?
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| − | [15:57] <Amortias> question away no guarantee of an answer though
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| − | [15:57] <LordServer> Well... does the server compile/generate a new page each time it's accessed, instead of caching?
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| − | [15:58] <LordServer> I made some sites for retailers who didn't change things too often where it ran php only when they made a change, and that php generated an html page, so they would get a much faster response and lower server use overall.
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| − | [15:59] <LordServer> But wikipedia gets constant edits so I wondered if it had to compile from data base each time
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| − | [16:01] <Amortias> not 100% sure but from what it looks like it would be cached, if youve ever had more than one person go in to change something at once the second person wont be able to edit once first ones saved, it reloads the new page and asks them to edit that one.
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| − | [16:01] <LordServer> That pause would be more in line with database locking.
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| − | [16:01] <LordServer> and not so much relevant to user access
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| − | [16:02] <Amortias> true but its the best answer i can come up with, it wouldnt make sense to compile a new page if the database was always locking up
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| − | [16:03] <Amortias> in my opinion anyway
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| − | [16:05] <LordServer> the database can be read without the need for locking. The only time you need to lock a database is when you intend to edit it
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| − | [16:05] <{soap|bed}> huh?
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| − | [16:06] <{soap|bed}> i thought they only time we lock the database is that 0.001% of the time when wikipedia has a problem and we have to temporarily shut down editing
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| − | [16:06] <{soap|bed}> or are you talking about something completely unmrelated?
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| − | [16:06] <Amortias> different locking
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| − | [16:06] <LordServer> taling about preventing two people from editing at the same time
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| − | [16:06] <LordServer> which you obviously want to prevent because that would just make a giant mess.
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| − | [16:06] <Amortias> when you make an edit it locks the page to that version of whoever saves it first
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| − | [16:06] <Amortias> hence edit conflicts
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| − | [16:06] <{soap|bed}> i vaguely remember old old old wikipedia having messages like "you cannot edit this page, someone else already is" but that was fixed way early on
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| − | [16:07] <{soap|bed}> although yes, i guess we still have edit conflicts
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| − | [16:07] <LordServer> My original question though was about when the database is read for user access
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| − | [16:07] <{soap|bed}> i think a fix for edit conflicts exists, but the devs wont implement it because oince in a while it fails and deletes the edit ,and at least the setup we have now saves the text that didnt make it
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| − | [16:07] <LordServer> because those conflicts are about *reading* the database it doesn't really give us a hint as to how it's being done
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| − | [16:08] <MJ94> {soap|bed}: hey!
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| − | [16:10] <{soap|bed}> hi
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| − | [16:10] <{soap|bed}> how are you?
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| − | [16:11] <Amortias> LordServer: I think we can guess a fair bit but your best bet might be to go to the reference desk see if you can draw the attention of an employee (former or otherwise)
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| − | [16:11] <{soap|bed}> there's also #wikimedia-tech if you prefer IRC
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| − | [16:12] <LordServer> lol don't want to bug them. It has just been a curiosity for years now
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| − | [16:12] <Amortias> damn it was just looking that up
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| − | [16:12] <LordServer> and google doesn't point me at an answer, which always makes me more curious
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| − | [16:13] <Amortias> Its all a conspiracy to hide the fact that Wikimedias servers run on the souls of the faithless
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| − | [16:13] <LordServer> lol
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| − | [16:13] <git> well i mean it is mysql
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| − | [16:13] <git> so that's not too far from the truth
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| − | [16:14] <LordServer> it would just use up a *lot* of processing while slowing the whole thing down if you're reading mySQL and compiling that into html each time
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| − | [16:14] <Amortias> might explain why we get server too busy to process messages from time to time though
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| − | [16:14] <LordServer> and I'm aware that if PHP is running a database call it can't just be cached
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| − | [16:16] <LordServer> But when I did my infinitely smaller projects there were issues with how to make sure the page was reloaded by the user's browser after an edit instead of using the cached version, and the rapid edits by wikipedia would make my workaround fail
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| − | [16:34] <geniice> So has the WMF pointed at reddit to show they aren't that bad at community relations yet?
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| − | [16:34] <foks> haw haw
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| − | [16:36] <Amortias> tink it might be a bit of a kick in the teeth but we do seem to be doing ok dont we
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| − | [16:40] <{soap|bed}> is reddit still full of chaos over the deletions of the fatpeoplehate etc boards? or is it beyond that?
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| − | [16:41] <Amortias> staff member got let go
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| − | [16:41] <Amortias> community has responded
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| − | [16:41] <Qcoder00> And the reddit clique did not like it
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| − | [16:41] <Qcoder00> (the firing)
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| − | [16:41] <Qcoder00> From what I hear
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| − | [16:41] <Qcoder00> hi Amortias
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| − | [16:42] <{soap|bed}> An Internet insurrection is taking place on Reddit, where moderators have shut down many of the social sharing site's most popular sections in an apparent protest over the dismissal of Victoria Taylor. Once word of Taylor's firing began to spread, moderators of other popular sections that cover movies, science, gaming and a host of others, also went private, making much of Reddit
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| − | [16:42] <{soap|bed}> essentially useless to regular site visitors.
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| − | [16:42] <TheCrypticName> Yeah reddit has a bunch of new drama lol
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| − | [16:52] <Qcoder00> What a shame a clique is holding the site operators to ransom
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| − | [16:52] <Qcoder00> over what was preusmably a commercial decision
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| − | [16:54] <MJ94> {soap|bed}: doing okay, you?
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| − | [16:56] <TheMesquito> Qcoder00: Well, its not that mostly, its a whole slew of things the reddit admins have done, namely not have any contact with mods of subreddits when they need help or have questions and basicly ignoreing any pull requests on the github page for reddit
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| − | [16:57] <Qcoder00> Who runs reddit?
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| − | [16:57] <Qcoder00> :)
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| − | [16:58] <TheMesquito> Qcoder00: Think of it like if the WMF just ignored admins on en.wiki when they ask something about an admin tool or see if they can improve one
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| − | [16:59] <Qcoder00> Ah you mean like the VE fiascon?
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| − | [17:00] <TheMesquito> Essentially, reddit admins are not listing to users that make there site run smoothly
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| − | [17:00] <LordServer> given the nature of reddit, they make it run at all
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| − | [17:01] <Qcoder00> I've ben told elsewhere that's there a mod clique that's holding back reddit
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| − | [17:01] <Qcoder00> from developing outside it's "geeky" demiogrpahic
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| − | [17:01] <TheMesquito> Qcoder00: No, not at all
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| − | [17:01] <TheMesquito> Mostly it is due to the reddit admins not caring about users who make the site run
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| − | [17:02] <LordServer> ... There could easily be a situation where both sides' stories are mostly true, no?
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| − | [17:02] <Qcoder00> There's also a concern that reddit's about to change it's policy on some issues andn start cracking down on controversial channels
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| − | [17:02] <Qcoder00> and redits
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| − | [17:03] <TheMesquito> That has a bit of truth, but it is highly convoluted
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| − | [17:04] <TheMesquito> But seeing as we still have coontown and greatapes, i dont think that is fully true, they are only banning subreddits who engage in harassment outsitde of there subreddit
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| − | [17:07] <geniice> Thats not really relivant to current events
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| − | [17:08] <TheMesquito> No, that drama ship sailed a while back
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| − | [17:24] <{soap|bed}> hmm i;d say reddit has expanded quite impressively
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| − | [17:24] <{soap|bed}> most reddit users that i know in person definitely arent stereotypical "geeks"
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| − | [17:25] <{soap|bed}> basically reddit users are just like other Internet users now, which is probably at least half the adult population
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| − | [17:36] <git> !admin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakgrove_School has some maybe blp violations in the history, lots of vandalism the last few days
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| − | [17:57] <{soap|bed}> yeah im just posting to cplain some more about AndroIRC
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| − | [17:58] <{soap|bed}> it ate up1.1GB of data in justr a day due to a malfunciton so Im dleeting it and I wont be on AndroIRC anymorep robably ever. if i do, its over wifi. Carrier wouldnt void the overage charge because Im on a discontinued plan paying far lower than what others pau. I dont blame 'em. Theyre in fact far far more generous than I expected. I do blame AndroIRC though
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| − | [17:59] <{soap|bed}> thank you Yunshui fdor protecting that schoool
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| − | [17:59] <{soap|bed}> i wonder if's a 12 month school?
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| − | [18:00] <{soap|bed}> school's out for sure in the USA except for a few very unlickly school districts that either had like forty snow days or just like to keep kids inside so they dont get in trouble
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| − | [18:01] <{soap|bed}> there was someplace in California a few years back where they said "oh by the way, due to a technicality, we're adding a couple of months to this school year with no compensation for any of the teachers. You'll get out in the middle of August. Deal with it"
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| − | [18:02] <{soap|bed}> the teachers vowed to protest it by just declaring all the summer days field trip days and letting anyone skip school of they chose. i didnt follow the story to see what came of it when it actually happpened though
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| − | [18:29] <TParis> lol Hey
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| − | [18:30] <Penwhale> how be you, TParis?
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| − | [18:30] <TParis> Ohh, fairing a bit better than you are, I imagine...Arbcom has it's hands full I see
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| − | [18:31] <TParis> I just know you're enjoying being a Clerk at the moment :)
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| − | [18:35] <Headbomb> could san admin please db-move https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_TUGS/Article_alerts
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| − | [18:35] <Headbomb> it's fairly urgent in that there is a bot run going on and it needs to be deleted before the bot edits it
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| − | [18:37] <TParis> You might use the ! word
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| − | [18:37] <Headbomb> i suppose i could
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| − | [18:37] <Amortias> isnt bird the word?
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| − | [18:38] <Headbomb> !admin could an admin please db-move https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_TUGS/Article_alerts, it's fairly urgent in that there is a bot run going on and it needs to be deleted before the bot edits it
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| − | [18:38] <jackmcbarn> looking
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| − | [18:39] <jackmcbarn> done
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| − | [18:39] <Headbomb> thanks!
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| − | [18:39] <jackmcbarn> yay for edit conflict
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| − | [18:39] <jackmcbarn> now to find out where the revisions all went
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| − | [18:39] <jackmcbarn> move conflicts suck
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| − | [18:40] <jackmcbarn> Headbomb: can you make sure that the revision history is what you expect it to be?
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| − | [18:41] <Headbomb> jackmcbarn, looks fine
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| − | [18:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> TParis yo
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| − | [18:50] <TParis> sup
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| − | [18:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its been a while
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| − | [18:50] <TParis> I dont come around much anymore
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| − | [18:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Penwhale you are an arbcom clerk? Why would you do this to yourself?
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| − | [18:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> TParis yah you have been missed by a certain white cat
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| − | [18:52] <Penwhale> TParis: ehehe
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| − | [18:52] <Penwhale> ToAruShiroiNeko: ... I've been an arbcom clerk longer than I was an admin
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| − | [18:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> really?
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| − | [18:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so you made it admin, congrats
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| − | [18:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I have been distracted by school for a few years and a lot seemingly have changed since
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| − | [18:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Penwhale they did not make me an admin while I was gone :p
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| − | [18:56] <Penwhale> ToAruShiroiNeko.... you know, I got made an admin in 2007?
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| − | [18:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Woha
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| − | [18:56] <{soap|bed}> bbl
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| − | [18:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> clearly I do not pay attention to it much
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| − | [18:56] <Penwhale> ToAruShiroiNeko: lol
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| − | [18:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I kinda suck it seems.
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| − | [18:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I should run for adminship to see how quickly I break the oppose record. :)
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| − | [18:57] <Penwhale> Kuroko worst pairing with Mikoto
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| − | [18:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Penwhale why do you think people hate my adminship prospect so much?
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| − | [18:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Do they fear I may actualy be useful?
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| − | [19:00] <Penwhale> How many times did you go under RFA?
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| − | [19:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 4
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| − | [19:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> last one was probably 5 years ago though
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| − | [19:00] <Penwhale> so... try
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| − | [19:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> No last one was in 2007
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| − | [19:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> btw https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atomium&action=history
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| − | [19:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I was reverted by 9carney
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| − | [19:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> this article is in the News by jombo giving it as an example why we need FOP
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| − | [19:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> *jimbo
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| − | [19:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he re-uploaded the file too
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| − | [19:02] <Penwhale> urgh...
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| − | [19:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> oh he reverted someone else as well
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| − | [19:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so ultimately he reuploaded the image
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| − | [19:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Penwhale what do you think?
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| − | [19:08] <Penwhale> discussing it with other people atm
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| − | [19:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> oh ok
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| − | [19:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he is doing this to upset jimbo probably
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| − | [19:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> upload came after his article on the independent
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| − | [19:43] <Qcoder00> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Atomium_320_by_240_CCBY20_flickr_Mike_Cattell_v2.jpg The licens there says proposed bulding
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| − | [19:43] <Qcoder00> We know it's alreayd been built so the license claim might be invalid
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| − | [19:44] <Qcoder00> Also - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atomium&oldid=669809858 That's very strong
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| − | [19:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> wow this article is in a sorry state: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahrawi_Arab_Democratic_Republic
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| − | [19:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Penwhale if you like I can join the discussion
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| − | [19:49] <git> hi can someone block https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Safasolahart
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| − | [19:52] <Symmachus> git: I can't block them, of course, but I did CSD their user page.
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| − | [19:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> whats the issue?
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| − | [19:56] <Symmachus> ToAruShiroiNeko: Promotional user, erasing Book:Wikipedia and replacing it with their business contact info.
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| − | [19:57] <Symmachus> Two edits, doing that, outside their user space, which contains the same info.
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| − | [19:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> oh
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| − | [19:58] <Symmachus> It's not even in English; fairly sure it's a Dravidian or Austronesian language.
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| − | [19:58] <Penwhale> I got to those deletions
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| − | [19:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> our local Penwhale is on the job
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| − | [19:58] <Symmachus> Awesomeness.
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| − | [19:58] <Qcoder00> You do not Delete the "Book of Wikipedia"!
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| − | [19:59] <Qcoder00> "For he that defileth the record shall fell thrice the rejection of their sins...."
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| − | [19:59] <Penwhale> as for the pictures on Atomium... ToAruShiroiNeko: send email to legal@
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| − | [19:59] <Penwhale> picture may pass FoP-USOnly, but... there does exist that chilling effects entry
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| − | [19:59] <Penwhale> ToAruShiroiNeko: that is, https://www.chillingeffects.org/notices/1800
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| − | [20:02] <Symmachus> Penwhale: I had no idea you were an admin until now. Ha.
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| − | [20:04] <Penwhale> Symmachus: a lot of people seem to be surprised by it. somehow.
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| − | [20:07] <Symmachus> Penwhale: Nah. Just don't believe I've heard you mention something particular to adminship is all. :) Not that I can recall, at least.
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| − | [20:07] <Qcoder00> Ninja
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| − | [20:07] <Qcoder00> ;)
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| − | [20:08] <SigmaWP> TParis: literally fascist
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| − | �06[20:08] * SigmaWP sweats
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| − | [20:08] <Qcoder00> You only see the resulyts :)
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| − | [20:08] <Symmachus> Qcoder00: Apparently!
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| − | [20:08] <MJ94> TParis: hi
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| − | [20:09] <MJ94> SigmaWP: hi
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| − | [20:09] <SigmaWP> hi
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| − | [20:09] <MJ94> SigmaWP: y u sweatin
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| − | [20:09] <SigmaWP> im pregnant
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| − | [20:09] <SigmaWP> <!3
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| − | [20:13] <SigmaWP> TParis: long time no see, so i'm going to say hi before you disappear for a million year slumber again :P
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| − | [20:14] <Qcoder00> SigmaWP: Congratualtions. Due when?
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| − | [20:15] <SigmaWP> due tomorrow, do tomorrow
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| − | [20:25] <MJ94> GorillaWarfare: Hi! Are you around?
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| − | [20:25] <GorillaWarfare> I am!
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| − | [20:26] <git> GorillaWarfare: did you have a good birthday?
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| − | [20:26] <GorillaWarfare> git: I did! Did you?
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| − | [20:26] <git> t'wasn't bad
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| − | [20:27] <git> i don't actually remember what it involved
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| − | [20:27] <GorillaWarfare> heh
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| − | [20:27] <GorillaWarfare> Doing it right
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| − | [20:27] <git> ... but it wasn't drinking
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| − | [20:27] <GorillaWarfare> :P
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| − | [20:27] <GorillaWarfare> I started a job several days after my 21st birthday, and some of my coworkers asked how it was
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| − | [20:27] <GorillaWarfare> I made the mistake of saying the same thing
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| − | [20:28] <GorillaWarfare> And then had to spend quite a while trying to convince them that no, I'm just forgetful
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| − | [20:28] <MJ94> I don't drink, I'm just naturally forgetful.
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| − | [20:28] <git> ^
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| − | [20:29] <MJ94> GorillaWarfare: I had something to ask you, but I may have found an answer...I'll let you know :P
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| − | [20:30] <GorillaWarfare> Okeydoke
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| − | [20:30] <GorillaWarfare> I'll be around
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| − | [20:33] <MJ94> GorillaWarfare: May I PM you?
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| − | [20:33] <GorillaWarfare> Anytime
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| − | [20:33] <GorillaWarfare> No need to ask
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| − | [20:34] <git> i registered for classes at uni like two days ago, and i just got an email from the head of the cs department with job openings
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| − | [20:34] <git> i think i'm going to like him
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| − | [20:35] <MJ94> I got an email from Google saying a Googler submitted my résumé and may have found a spot on the team I may like to apply for.
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| − | [20:35] <MJ94> They said they'd get back to me in 2 weeks.
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| − | [20:35] <MJ94> It's been 10 days.
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| − | [20:37] <git> MJ94: i realized a few weeks ago that i might've submitted the wrong resume to a couple companies
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| − | [20:37] <git> as in, not mine
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| − | [20:38] <MJ94> ...how'd so did they get the job? ;)
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| − | [20:39] <git> idk if they did it's probably a downgrade
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| − | [20:49] <git> okay, i know there are people that use OS X in here. i have a queestion for you. what browser do you use, and what's its average energy impact?
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| − | [20:53] <MJ94> git: Chrome.
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| − | [20:53] <MJ94> 824 MB memory right now.
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| − | [20:54] <git> energy impact
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| − | [20:58] <foks> I use three
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| − | [20:59] <foks> chrome's on about 26.4, Safari 10.5 and FF's on 5
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| − | [20:59] <foks> though FF is mostly just for Chatzilla
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| − | [21:00] <git> ...average energy impact?
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| − | [21:01] <git> because mine is like 1500
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| − | [21:01] <git> https://www.dropbox.com/s/fxufbzhogj6s7dx/Screenshot%202015-07-03%2016.01.27.png?dl=0
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| − | [21:07] <foks> git, holy fuck
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| − | [21:08] <foks> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pidm66llxcfeuk1/Screenshot%202015-07-03%2014.08.12.png?dl=0
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| − | [21:09] <git> um
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| − | [21:09] <git> i must be doing something wrong then O_o
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| − | [21:09] <git> unless energy impact depends on the hardware?
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| − | [21:09] <foks> god knows
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| − | [21:09] <foks> might be a bug
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| − | [21:19] <foks> on OSX, certainly
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| − | [23:03] <TParis> SigmaWP - did you see my complete destruction of your argument?
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| − | [23:04] <TParis> You may need to report to the burn unit after that
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| − | [23:06] <MJ94> TParis: link to RfA for the lazy?
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| − | [23:06] <Qcoder00> Might go offline suddenly
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| − | [23:07] <Qcoder00> Hearing thunder
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| − | [23:07] <TParis> I don't want to post it, MJ94, I don't want to be accused of canvassing. Would've preferred not even mentioning it.
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| − | [23:07] <TParis> Qcoder00: Stay safe
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| − | [23:07] <TParis> I loved me a good thunderstorm when I lived in Texas
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| − | [23:08] <MJ94> TParis: pretty sure it's not canvassing if I specifically ask for it :P
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| − | [23:08] <TParis> Yeah, but tons of other people havent :P
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| − | [23:08] <TParis> sent it over PM
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| − | [23:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Objection! The canvas is a lie.
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| − | [23:08] <TParis> ToAruShiroiNeko: What I do in my sexy time is none of your business :P
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| − | [23:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Please do not tell me you are pricolo v2
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| − | [23:09] <TParis> lol
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| − | [23:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> lie if you have to
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| − | [23:09] <TParis> Gotta find inspiration somewhere
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| − | [23:09] <TParis> No, no, I'm not pricolo v2
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| − | [23:10] <TParis> So where is SigmaWP, is he ignoring me?
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| − | [23:10] <MJ94> TParis: Your comment seems a bit BITEy.
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| − | [23:10] <MJ94> Not really friendly.
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| − | [23:11] <TParis> On SigmaWP? I'm sure he'll be fine.
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| − | [23:12] <TParis> The tools Cyber is running are on their 4th or 5th interation of developers. And each developer has added their own suite of tools and frameworks. It's a huge conglamorate of scripts. I don't know of anyone that is running anything that matches.
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| − | [23:31] <SigmaWP> TParis: I don't see any destructed arguments
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| − | [23:31] <SigmaWP> TParis: I do see, however, someone trying to destroy an argument with fallacies
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| − | [23:31] <SigmaWP> TParis: Also I wasn't here.
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| − | [23:32] <TParis> SigmaWP: Only fallacy I see is trying to compare the number of bug reports you get (and the limited scope, size, and usage of your scripts) to Cyber
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| − | [23:33] <SigmaWP> What kind of fallacy is that, then?
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| − | [23:33] <SigmaWP> Where does that claim arise?
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| − | [23:34] <TParis> On the surface, it's an anecdotal fallacy
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| − | [23:35] <MJ94> Does MusikAnimal use IRC?
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| − | [23:35] <TParis> Ooo, the article on fallacies also lists "Affirming the consequent" 'If Cyber is a bad maintainer, he'll have bugs. He has bugs, therefore he is a bad maintainer.'
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| − | [23:36] <MJ94> SigmaWP: TParis can you two take your bickering elsewhere, please?
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| − | [23:37] <TParis> We're not bickering. We're got a lot of history together, this is playful banter at worst.
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| − | [23:39] <MJ94> TParis: Fair enough.
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| − | [23:39] <MJ94> Cyber's RfA is the first RfA I just don't know which side I fall into.
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| − | [23:39] <TParis> The side of goodness.
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| − | [23:40] <MJ94> TParis: probably neutral, but idk
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| − | [23:40] <TParis> Sounds like you hate puppies...
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