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[[File:438px-Josip Broz Tito Légion d'honneur.jpg|thumb|right||175px|Dictator [[Josip Broz Tito]] and [[Wikipedia]] have a special relationship.]]

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'''Wikipedia's''' article on Dictator '''Josip Broz Tito''', <ref>{{cite web|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Broz_Tito|title=Josip Broz Tito, 2011. Mon. 10 Jan. 2011. |date=[[2011]]|accessdate=2011-01-10}}</ref> Titoism <ref>{{cite web|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titoism|title=Titoism, 2011. Mon. 10 Jan. 2011. |date=[[2011]]|accessdate=2011-01-10}}</ref> and Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia is mostly [[Communists|Communist]] propaganda of the now defunct Communist Party of the former Yugoslavia. As it turns out [[Criticism of Jimmy Wales|Jimmy Wales]] has provided a perfect vehicle for propaganda of this type. The articles are mainly written by Editors from [[Croatia]] (Communists extremists) and supported by other Editors and Wikipedia-Administrators who have communist leanings. It is written in a '''biased''' non-encyclopaedic fashion and does not represent contemporary views. Sections of these articles are written in a child-like manner, similar to the Yugoslav primary school textbooks from the 1970s (Communist's rhetoric spin).

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'''Wikipedia's''' article on Dictator '''Josip Broz Tito''', <ref>{{cite web|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Broz_Tito|title=Josip Broz Tito, 2011. Mon. 10 Jan. 2011. |date=[[2011]]|accessdate=2011-01-10}}</ref> Titoism <ref>{{cite web|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titoism|title=Titoism, 2011. Mon. 10 Jan. 2011. |date=[[2011]]|accessdate=2011-01-10}}</ref> and Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia is mostly [[Communists|Communist]] propaganda of the now defunct Communist Party of the former Yugoslavia. As it turns out [[Criticism of Jimmy Wales|Jimmy Wales]] has provided a perfect vehicle for propaganda of this type. The articles are mainly written by Editors from [[Croatia]] (Eastern European Communists extremists) and supported by other Editors and Wikipedia-Administrators who have communist leanings. It is written in a '''biased''' non-encyclopaedic fashion and does not represent contemporary views. Sections of these articles are written in a child-like manner, similar to the Yugoslav primary school textbooks from the 1970s (Communist's rhetoric spin).

After the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of Yugoslavia, factual evidence has emerged that Dictator [[Directory:Josip Broz Tito| Josip Broz Tito]] and his regime (former Yugoslavia) were responsible for executing the ''Way of the Cross'' (death marches),<ref>[http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/partisan_fighters_01.shtml#six '''BBC-History Partisans''':] War in the Balkans 1941-1945. '''Dr Stephen A Hart''' is senior lecturer in war studies at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst. He is the author of The Road to Falaise: Operations "Totalize" & "Tractable" (Alan Sutton, 2004), "Montgomery " and "Colossal Cracks": The 21st Army Group in Northwest Europe, 1944-45 (Praeger, 2000).

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*'''Encyclopaedia Britannica''': {{Cquote|''After the armistice the British repatriated more than 10,000 Slovene collaborators who had attempted to retreat with the Germans, and [[Directory:Josip Broz Tito|Tito]] had most of them massacred at the infamous Pits of Kocevje''.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/549081/Slovenia|title="Slovenia." '''Encyclopædia Britannica'''. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. Encyclopædia Britannica, 2011. Mon. 10 Jan. 2011. |date=[[2011]]|accessdate=2011-01-10}}</ref>}}

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* Vladimir Geiger of the [[Croatia|Croatian]] Institute for History:{{Cquote|''The list of German victims includes 26,000 women and 5,800 children who died in [[Talk:Titoism and Totalitarianism|Yugoslav Camps]]''- Geiger said.<ref>[http://www.newcomers-network.de/newsfeed_dpa/110217German_mass_grave_sheds_new_light_on_clo.php Newcomers Network:] German Mass Grave Sheds New Light on Close of World War Two. </ref>}}

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* Vladimir Geiger of the [[Croatia|Croatian]] Institute for History statement concerning Yugoslavia post World War Two:{{Cquote|''The list of German victims includes 26,000 women and 5,800 children who died in [[Talk:Titoism and Totalitarianism|Yugoslav Camps]]''- Geiger said.<ref>[http://www.newcomers-network.de/newsfeed_dpa/110217German_mass_grave_sheds_new_light_on_clo.php Newcomers Network:] German Mass Grave Sheds New Light on Close of World War Two. </ref>}}

Additionally there is the ethnic cleansing of [[Directory:Germany|Germans]] and [[Italy|Italians]] of the former Yugoslavia. <ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=c-8YAAAAIAAJ&q=%22The+killing+continued+after+the+war,+as+Tito's+victorious+forces+took+revenge+on+their+real+and+perceived+enemies.+British+forces+in+Austria+turned+back+tens+of+thousands+of+fleeing+Yugoslavs.+Estimates+range+from+30,000+to+55,000+killed+between+spring+and+autumn+1945.%22&dq=%22The+killing+continued+after+the+war,+as+Tito's+victorious+forces+took+revenge+on+their+real+and+perceived+enemies.+British+forces+in+Austria+turned+back+tens+of+thousands+of+fleeing+Yugoslavs.+Estimates+range+from+30,000+to+55,000+killed+between+spring+and+autumn+1945.%22&hl=en&ei=PXPvTYOzG4mIuAOzldiPCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA Encyclopedia of Genocide and Crimes Against Humanity, Volume 3] by Dinah Shelton Macmillan Reference, 2005 - Political Science (p.1170) </ref><ref>[http://www.enotes.com/genocide-encyclopedia/yugoslavia www.enotes.com "Yugoslavia." Genocide and Crimes Against Humanity. Ed. Dinah L. Shelton. Gale Cengage, 2005. eNotes.com. 2006. 26 Jun, 2010 ] Yugoslavia: Genocide & Crimes Against Humanity-Mark Thompson.

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* Statement by a Wikipedian Editor DIREKTOR (21 October 2009):{{Cquote| ''However, as was pointed out to this persistent POV-pusher on numerous, numerous occasions by many users: they have absolutely nothing to do with Josip Broz Tito'' <ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard/Archive_9#Summary_of_Josip_Broz_Tito_Article Wikipedia-Neutral point of view/Noticeboard:] Archive 9. Summary of Josip Broz Tito Article</ref>}}

(Wikipedian Editor DIREKTOR tried to remove [[Josip Broz Tito]] from Wikipedia's article "''List of dictators"'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_dictators&diff=443063560&oldid=443063505 /'''Link'''])

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* [[Bleiburg Massacre and Wikipedia#Aleksandar Rankovic|Aleksandar Rankovic]], the Interior Minister and the head of the military and secret police of Yugoslavia at a Belgrade meeting stated: {{Cquote|''Through our prisons has passed between 1945 and 1951, 3 777 776 prisoners, while we killed 586 000 enemies of the people.'' ~~Taken from ''Politika'', Belgrade/1 February 1951 (p.1)~~ <ref>[http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7laAd_LLA6YJ:www.hic.hr/images/komunisticke-zlocinci-nisu-antifasizma.pdf+Zločina+počinjenih+od+strane+totalitarnih+režima+su+izvješća+i+postupak+Europske+javne+rasprave+u+organizaciji+slovenskog+predsjedništva+Vijeća&cd=4&hl=hr&ct=clnk&lr=lang_hr&source=www.google.com Communist Crime is not Antifascism] Released on International Human Rights Day, 10 DECEMBER 2008. On behalf of the participants in public meetings Maja Runje, a member of the Steering Committee- Zagreb (p. 19). Article is in Croatian: ''KOMUNISTIČKI ZLOČINI NISU ANTIFAŠIZAM] POVODOM MEĐUNARODNOG DANA LJUDSKIH PRAVA,10. PROSINCA 2008. U ime sudionika javnog okupljanja Maja Runje, članica Koordinacijskog odbora Kruga za trg10 000 Zagreb, Jurjevska 47a (str. 19)'' </ref>}}

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* [[Bleiburg Massacre and Wikipedia#Aleksandar Rankovic|Aleksandar Rankovic]], the Interior Minister and the head of the military and secret police of Yugoslavia at a Belgrade meeting stated: {{Cquote|''Through our prisons has passed between 1945 and 1951, 3 777 776 prisoners, while we killed 586 000 enemies of the people.'' <ref>[http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7laAd_LLA6YJ:www.hic.hr/images/komunisticke-zlocinci-nisu-antifasizma.pdf+Zločina+počinjenih+od+strane+totalitarnih+režima+su+izvješća+i+postupak+Europske+javne+rasprave+u+organizaciji+slovenskog+predsjedništva+Vijeća&cd=4&hl=hr&ct=clnk&lr=lang_hr&source=www.google.com Communist Crime is not Antifascism] Released on International Human Rights Day, 10 DECEMBER 2008. On behalf of the participants in public meetings Maja Runje, a member of the Steering Committee- Zagreb (p. 19). Article is in Croatian: ''KOMUNISTIČKI ZLOČINI NISU ANTIFAŠIZAM POVODOM MEĐUNARODNOG DANA LJUDSKIH PRAVA,10. PROSINCA 2008. U ime sudionika javnog okupljanja Maja Runje, članica Koordinacijskog odbora Kruga za trg10 000 Zagreb, Jurjevska 47a (str. 19)'' </ref> Taken from ''Politika'', Belgrade/1 February 1951 (p.1) }}

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* ''Communist labour camps in Slovenia were established already in 1945. These were camps for forced labour and were called penal camps. In 1949, correctional camps and camps for socially beneficial labour called working groups were established. All these labour camps were abolished in the beginning of 1951, when new criminal legislation, free of the concept of forced, correctional and socially beneficial labour was adopted.'' (pages 145 & 146)}}

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'''Press releases''' ~~concerning European Public Hearing on (Brussels, 8 April 2008)~~ [http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=MEMO/08/230&type=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en “Crimes Committed by Totalitarian Regime"- '''Link''']

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'''Press releases''' [http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=MEMO/08/230&type=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en “Crimes Committed by Totalitarian Regime"- '''Link'''] concerning the European Public Hearing (Brussels, 8 April 2008)

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== Government of the Slovenia ==

The government of the [[Slovenia|Republic of Slovenia]] (a former republic of Yugoslavia) has commission a study of communist crimes in the immediate post [[World War Two]] period. It was called ''Commission on Concealed Mass Graves in Slovenia''. Their work was completed in October 2009. Below is a Croatian Newspaper ''Jutarnji'' report on the matter:<ref>[http://www.jutarnji.hr/u-581-grobnici-je-100-000-zrtava/310887/ www.jutarnji.hr] U 581 Grobnici je 100.000 žrtava. [http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=hr&u=http://www.jutarnji.hr/u-581-grobnici-je-100-000-zrtava/310887/&ei=8x3BS-n7MYH-6QP17L3CCQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAcQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.jutarnji.hr/u-581-grobnici-je-100-000-zrtava/310887/%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us English version:] The Jutarnji newspaper reported on the 01/10/2009 commissions find, in all it is estimated that there are 100 000 victims in 581 mass graves</ref>

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