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== Hannnibal strikes back ==

== Hannnibal strikes back ==

[[File:800px-Wikipedia Academy Stockholm 2009 Lennart Guldbrandsson.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Community Fellow, Lennart Guldbrandsson, a.k.a. [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hannibal Hannibal]]]

[[File:Wikipedia Academy Stockholm 2009 Lennart Guldbrandsson_800px.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Community Fellow, Lennart Guldbrandsson, a.k.a. [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hannibal Hannibal]]]

Community Fellow, Lennart Guldbrandsson, a.k.a. [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hannibal Hannibal] decided that he should be the one to decide where I should comment or not and [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Account_Creation_Improvement_Project&diff=9587&oldid=9583 undid] my deletion of my own comment, with the argument "let's try to keep the discussion." [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Account_Creation_Improvement_Project&diff=next&oldid=9587 adding a few lines], under the guise of answering my question.

Community Fellow, Lennart Guldbrandsson, a.k.a. [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hannibal Hannibal] decided that he should be the one to decide where I should comment or not and [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Account_Creation_Improvement_Project&diff=9587&oldid=9583 undid] my deletion of my own comment, with the argument "let's try to keep the discussion." [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Account_Creation_Improvement_Project&diff=next&oldid=9587 adding a few lines], under the guise of answering my question.

I proceeded to "[http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mono&diff=prev&oldid=10028 Thank (Mono) so much for a job well done]", writing "If you have any answers you would like to give someone, give them to Sue Gardner [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Account_Creation_Improvement_Project&diff=9577&oldid=9299] :

I proceeded to "[http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mono&diff=prev&oldid=10028 Thank (Mono) so much for a job well done]", writing "If you have any answers you would like to give someone, give them to Sue Gardner [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Account_Creation_Improvement_Project&diff=9577&oldid=9299] :

[[File:800px-SueGardner.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Sue Gardner, Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation.]]

[[File:SueGardner.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Sue Gardner, Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation.]]

"It's particularly hard to assess new editors' motivations and likelihood of sticking around productively when they don't have a userpage or their userpage doesn't have much information on it."

"It's particularly hard to assess new editors' motivations and likelihood of sticking around productively when they don't have a userpage or their userpage doesn't have much information on it."

Restored my user page he had, just a few minutes before, 20:44, 1 March 2011,  [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Vapmachado&action=history with this quite amazing summary]: "restoring per request, it appears this user intended to out himself, removing personal address".

Restored my user page he had, just a few minutes before, 20:44, 1 March 2011,  [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Vapmachado&action=history with this quite amazing summary]: "restoring per request, it appears this user intended to out himself, removing personal address".

[[File:800px-Frank Schulenburg June08.jpg|thumb|300px|right|[http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Frank_Schulenburg Frank Schulenburg], the Wikimedia Foundation's Head of Public Outreach]]

[[File:Frank Schulenburg June08_800px.JPG|thumb|300px|right|[http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Frank_Schulenburg Frank Schulenburg], the Wikimedia Foundation's Head of Public Outreach]]

While Frank Schulenburg, the Wikimedia Foundation's Head of Public Outreach, was doing his best to stay out of the fray, it was left to Community Fellow, Lennart Guldbrandsson, a.k.a. Hannibal, to [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hannibal&diff=10078&oldid=10030 try to make amends], with some standard fare and a couple of lines addressing the situation that had developed or in his own words "background and answer":

While Frank Schulenburg, the Wikimedia Foundation's Head of Public Outreach, was doing his best to stay out of the fray, it was left to Community Fellow, Lennart Guldbrandsson, a.k.a. Hannibal, to [http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hannibal&diff=10078&oldid=10030 try to make amends], with some standard fare and a couple of lines addressing the situation that had developed or in his own words "background and answer":

Let me rephrase it a little bit for clarity's sake: the first years Wikipedia existed, the goal was simply to have articles on every subject and people tried to get as many edits as they could. Then another phase came along, where most everybody was concerned with quality: they added more and more sources, and tried to get more scientists to contribute. Around 2009, the third phase started to grow, but it wasn't until 2011 that it has really come into full effect, and it is still not the dominant way of thinking, namely that we should focus on the users. After all, it's the users that create the content. We are right now in the process of [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap trying to get more women to contribute to Wikipedia and its sister projects], for instance, At the same time, there are users who have been present since the beginning, and we shouldn't ignore their needs and wants either. And the compromise here is very difficult - for everybody. Not just for the newcomers who come into a culture that is well-established and complex and yes, a little rough sometimes, but for the veterans, who have seen every attempt at change Wikipedia before, and who have had good results with their present methods. Sue (and I) represent those who have looked at the developments here, and [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap try to see how Wikipedia should (and need to) evolve in the upcoming years].

Let me rephrase it a little bit for clarity's sake: the first years Wikipedia existed, the goal was simply to have articles on every subject and people tried to get as many edits as they could. Then another phase came along, where most everybody was concerned with quality: they added more and more sources, and tried to get more scientists to contribute. Around 2009, the third phase started to grow, but it wasn't until 2011 that it has really come into full effect, and it is still not the dominant way of thinking, namely that we should focus on the users. After all, it's the users that create the content. We are right now in the process of [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap trying to get more women to contribute to Wikipedia and its sister projects], for instance, At the same time, there are users who have been present since the beginning, and we shouldn't ignore their needs and wants either. And the compromise here is very difficult - for everybody. Not just for the newcomers who come into a culture that is well-established and complex and yes, a little rough sometimes, but for the veterans, who have seen every attempt at change Wikipedia before, and who have had good results with their present methods. Sue (and I) represent those who have looked at the developments here, and [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap try to see how Wikipedia should (and need to) evolve in the upcoming years].

In conclusion, now that Mono has restored your user page and explained his/her reason for removing it in the first place, I trust that the situation has resolved itself, and that we all can get back to being productive both here and on other Wikimedia projects. Good luck//Hannibal (talk) 08:55, 2 March 2011 (UTC)  

In conclusion, now that Mono has restored your user page and explained his/her reason for removing it in the first place, I trust that the situation has resolved itself, and that we all can get back to being productive both here and on other Wikimedia projects. Good luck//Hannibal (talk) 08:55, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

== End of story ==

== End of story ==

A most outlandish, gross, out of place and inappropriate comment was made  ("it appears this user intended to out himself"). My user page did not out me, neither was that my intent. The same kind of information is available all over the Wikimedia projects and on the Web in general. I write my comments using my professional name (Virgilio A. P. Machado), an imperfect printed form of my signature of some 50 years (Vapmachado) and I've been a public figure for more than 35 years, with information about me in print and, more recently, in the Web. I've been "outed" a long time ago, and was never a closet anything.

A most outlandish, gross, out of place and inappropriate comment was made  ("it appears this user intended to out himself"). My user page did not out me, neither was that my intent. The same kind of information is available all over the Wikimedia projects and on the Web in general. I write my comments using my professional name (Virgilio A. P. Machado), an imperfect printed form of my signature of some 50 years (Vapmachado) and I've been a public figure for more than 35 years, with information about me in print and, more recently, in the Web. I've been "outed" a long time ago, and was never a closet anything.

[[File:800px-La Conner, WA - P.O. boxes.jpg|thumb|300px|right|P. O. Boxes]]

[[File:La Conner, WA - P.O. boxes_800px.jpg|thumb|300px|right|P. O. Boxes, by Joe Mabel]]

Still eager to pick on something, Mono decided that "Apartado 313, 2826-801 Caparica" is my personal address, which he promptly remove while restoring my user page, leaving his famous mark "(Redacted)" in it's place. Well I regret to have to let you know that "Apartado 313, 2826-801 Caparica" is not my "personal address". It's one of my many mailing addresses. "Apartado" is the Portuguese word for Post Office or P.O. Box, and I can assure you that I never lived there. I hope to contribute to someone's knowledge of Portuguese, by leting you know that there are several ways to write "Apartment" in Portuguese, including "Apartamento", but again "Apartado" is not one of them. Furthermore if you want to know my address, I'm in the book, the phonebook, and if you want my number(s) all you have to do is call information. When you have nothing to hide or be ashamed of, there's no need to hide yourself. Besides, I happen to live in a civilized country, a bit on the poor side, but civilized.

Still eager to pick on something, Mono decided that "Apartado 313, 2826-801 Caparica" is my personal address, which he promptly remove while restoring my user page, leaving his famous mark "(Redacted)" in it's place. Well I regret to have to let you know that "Apartado 313, 2826-801 Caparica" is not my "personal address". It's one of my many mailing addresses. "Apartado" is the Portuguese word for Post Office or P.O. Box, and I can assure you that I never lived there. I hope to contribute to someone's knowledge of Portuguese, by leting you know that there are several ways to write "Apartment" in Portuguese, including "Apartamento", but again "Apartado" is not one of them. Furthermore if you want to know my address, I'm in the book, the phonebook, and if you want my number(s) all you have to do is call information. When you have nothing to hide or be ashamed of, there's no need to hide yourself. Besides, I happen to live in a civilized country, a bit on the poor side, but civilized.

"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."--Matthew v:3.

"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."--Matthew v:3.

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