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Snerfling: /* Semantic Tags */

2007-02-08T19:56:22Z

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Controltheweb: /* Semantic Tags */

2007-02-08T18:59:19Z

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Controltheweb: /* Semantic Tags */

2007-02-08T18:58:55Z

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Controltheweb: /* Semantic Tags */

2007-02-08T18:58:34Z

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Snerfling: /* Semantic Tags */

2007-02-08T17:24:09Z

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Snerfling: /* Semantic Tags */

2007-02-05T19:35:23Z

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Snerfling: Semantic tag conventions

2007-02-05T19:34:27Z

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Snerfling: /* Wikilinks */

2007-02-05T19:32:01Z

Wikilinks

Snerfling: /* Aficionados */

2007-02-05T15:31:03Z

Aficionados

Snerfling: /* Listing */

2007-02-05T15:27:32Z

Listing

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 Let me know if you have any questions or need any help. [[User:Snerfling|Snerfling]] 11:32, 5 February 2007 (PST)
-:Alright, I went ahead and cleaned up/created some of the tags you were using. If you take a look at [[Directory:Francine Neago]], I think you will find it quite interesting how subject matter interests link to Main space articles (and vice versa).
+==Infobox Person==
-:Note also the user of the CV relation. While subpages allow the organization of detailed subsidiary information, relations provide semantic links that are picked up by Google. [[User:Snerfling|Snerfling]] 09:24, 8 February 2007 (PST)
+Alright, I went ahead and cleaned up/created some of the tags you were using. If you take a look at [[Directory:Francine Neago]], I think you will find it quite interesting how subject matter interests link to Main space articles (and vice versa).
-::Thanks! Just got too busy to get back to it right away. Will definitely be following your direction and contributing and learning around here. [[User:Controltheweb|Controltheweb]] 10:58, 8 February 2007 (PST)
+Note also the user of the CV relation. While subpages allow the organization of detailed subsidiary information, relations provide semantic links that are picked up by Google. [[User:Snerfling|Snerfling]] 09:24, 8 February 2007 (PST)

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	:Note also the user of the CV relation. While subpages allow the organization of detailed subsidiary information, relations provide semantic links that are picked up by Google. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 09:24, 8 February 2007 (PST)		:Note also the user of the CV relation. While subpages allow the organization of detailed subsidiary information, relations provide semantic links that are picked up by Google. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 09:24, 8 February 2007 (PST)

−	::Thanks! Just got too busy to get back to it right away. Will definitely be following your direction and contributing and learning around here.[[User:Controltheweb\|Controltheweb]] 10:58, 8 February 2007 (PST)	+	::Thanks! Just got too busy to get back to it right away. Will definitely be following your direction and contributing and learning around here. [[User:Controltheweb\|Controltheweb]] 10:58, 8 February 2007 (PST)

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	:Note also the user of the CV relation. While subpages allow the organization of detailed subsidiary information, relations provide semantic links that are picked up by Google. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 09:24, 8 February 2007 (PST)		:Note also the user of the CV relation. While subpages allow the organization of detailed subsidiary information, relations provide semantic links that are picked up by Google. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 09:24, 8 February 2007 (PST)

−	::Thanks! Just got too busy to get back to it right away. Will definitely be following your direction and contributing and learning around here.	+	::Thanks! Just got too busy to get back to it right away. Will definitely be following your direction and contributing and learning around here.[[User:Controltheweb\|Controltheweb]] 10:58, 8 February 2007 (PST)

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	:Note also the user of the CV relation. While subpages allow the organization of detailed subsidiary information, relations provide semantic links that are picked up by Google. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 09:24, 8 February 2007 (PST)		:Note also the user of the CV relation. While subpages allow the organization of detailed subsidiary information, relations provide semantic links that are picked up by Google. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 09:24, 8 February 2007 (PST)
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		+	::Thanks! Just got too busy to get back to it right away. Will definitely be following your direction and contributing and learning around here.

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	Let me know if you have any questions or need any help. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 11:32, 5 February 2007 (PST)		Let me know if you have any questions or need any help. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 11:32, 5 February 2007 (PST)
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		+	:Alright, I went ahead and cleaned up/created some of the tags you were using. If you take a look at [[Directory:Francine Neago]], I think you will find it quite interesting how subject matter interests link to Main space articles (and vice versa).
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		+	:Note also the user of the CV relation. While subpages allow the organization of detailed subsidiary information, relations provide semantic links that are picked up by Google. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 09:24, 8 February 2007 (PST)

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 All right, I finally got a chance to take a look at the tags you created for [[Directory:Francine Neago]]. Here are some comments & suggestions:
-*The existing attributes NAICS Code & NAICS Code Title can used to classify her as (a) 54171 - a [http://www.census.gov/epcd/naics02/def/NDEF541.HTM#N5417 scientist] and a (b) 71151 - an [http://www.census.gov/epcd/naics02/def/NDEF711.HTM#N71151 author].
+*The existing attributes [[Special:Attributes|NAICS Code]] & NAICS Code Title can used to classify her as (a) 54171 - a [http://www.census.gov/epcd/naics02/def/NDEF541.HTM#N5417 scientist] and a (b) 71151 - an [http://www.census.gov/epcd/naics02/def/NDEF711.HTM#N71151 author].
 *I added [[Attribute:Professional Description]] to provide greater detail to the standard NAICS codes eg [[Primatologist]]
 *I created [[Attribute:Language]] to handle languages. Note that it's a non-[[Ordinal number]], so it can handle multiple instances.

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 I also noticed that you were using a lot of external links <nowiki>[ ]</nowiki>, rather than internal wikilinks <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki>. Internal links, especially those with semantic tags, seem to be picked up much better by search engines for [[SEO]]. [[User:Snerfling|Snerfling]] 07:27, 5 February 2007 (PST)
-==Francine Neago==
+==Semantic Tags==
 All right, I finally got a chance to take a look at the tags you created for [[Directory:Francine Neago]]. Here are some comments & suggestions:

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	==Wikilinks==		==Wikilinks==
	I also noticed that you were using a lot of external links <nowiki>[ ]</nowiki>, rather than internal wikilinks <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki>. Internal links, especially those with semantic tags, seem to be picked up much better by search engines for [[SEO]]. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 07:27, 5 February 2007 (PST)		I also noticed that you were using a lot of external links <nowiki>[ ]</nowiki>, rather than internal wikilinks <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki>. Internal links, especially those with semantic tags, seem to be picked up much better by search engines for [[SEO]]. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 07:27, 5 February 2007 (PST)
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		+	==Francine Neago==
		+	All right, I finally got a chance to take a look at the tags you created for [[Directory:Francine Neago]]. Here are some comments & suggestions:
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		+	*The existing attributes NAICS Code & NAICS Code Title can used to classify her as (a) 54171 - a [http://www.census.gov/epcd/naics02/def/NDEF541.HTM#N5417 scientist] and a (b) 71151 - an [http://www.census.gov/epcd/naics02/def/NDEF711.HTM#N71151 author].
		+	*I added [[Attribute:Professional Description]] to provide greater detail to the standard NAICS codes eg [[Primatologist]]
		+	*I created [[Attribute:Language]] to handle languages. Note that it's a non-[[Ordinal number]], so it can handle multiple instances.
		+	*I set up a new relation called [[Relation:Behavior Of]] to handle relationships between animals & behaviors.
		+	*I created a new relation called [[Relation:Curriculum Vitae Of]] for those that wish to create CV [[Centiare:subpage\|subpage]]s and relate them back to specific individuals.
		+	*Not sure what you mean by the 'encyclopedia' attribute; could be a mistype.
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		+	I think you have an excellent opportunity to flesh out [[Primatologist]], [[behavior]], [[ape]] & [[orangutan]] in the Main space. While they must conform to [[NPOV]], you can use [[Centiare:aficionados]] to link her directory information, CV, articles, etc. to those articles. (Yes, the sem tags get picked up by Google.)
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		+	Let me know if you have any questions or need any help. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 11:32, 5 February 2007 (PST)

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 # Foster a sense of community amongst like minded individuals and/or entities.
-We came up with a technique called '''Aficionados'''. Using the template <nowiki>{{aficionados}}</nowiki>, one can automatically place a set of links pointing to different discussion/link sections residing in [[Centiare:Subpage|subpages]]. Then, using a standard [[Centiare:ASK|ASK]] query, a chart of links to other interested parties, their interests and their contributions can be automatically generated!
+We came up with a technique called '''[[Centiare:Aficionados|Aficionados]]'''. Using the template <nowiki>{{aficionados}}</nowiki>, one can automatically place a set of links pointing to different discussion/link sections residing in [[Centiare:Subpage|subpages]]. Then, using a standard [[Centiare:ASK|ASK]] query, a chart of links to other interested parties, their interests and their contributions can be automatically generated!
 And the beauty of all this is that it uses semantic tags to facilitate both the relationships and generate reports. Pretty cool, huh? Having a simple policy like this allows the Main space to remain clean & uncluttered, and we don't have a lot of people jockeying & monkeying with link spam, etc.

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	==Listing==		==Listing==
	Your listing looks great. If you're interested, we can show you a couple of tricks using Centiare's semantic features. They provide a couple of key advantages, one of which is that Google prioritizes the [[RDF]]'s in their search results (we surmise they're preparing for the semantic web). The other is that they provide excellent document roll-up & organizational capabilities. (That is, they enable subjects/categories structured in a traditional flat wiki to emulate a hierarchical organization.) To see an example of this in action, check out [[Directory:KJ Kitchens\|KJ Kitchens]]. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 21:20, 4 February 2007 (PST)		Your listing looks great. If you're interested, we can show you a couple of tricks using Centiare's semantic features. They provide a couple of key advantages, one of which is that Google prioritizes the [[RDF]]'s in their search results (we surmise they're preparing for the semantic web). The other is that they provide excellent document roll-up & organizational capabilities. (That is, they enable subjects/categories structured in a traditional flat wiki to emulate a hierarchical organization.) To see an example of this in action, check out [[Directory:KJ Kitchens\|KJ Kitchens]]. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 21:20, 4 February 2007 (PST)
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		+	==Aficionados==
		+	Love your contribution to [[Resource Description Framework]]! Looks like you already know quite a bit about the semantic web, so it's great to have you on board. Let me share a couple of tricks we're employing at Centiare to make it fly. Main space articles need to maintain a [[NPOV]] because we want to:
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		+	# Avoid the types of incessant edit wars/reverts/deletions at Wikipedia, which results from attempting to shoehorn NPOV into inherently commercial environments;
		+	# Elminate link spam (also resulting from NPOV);
		+	# Encourage commercial contributions (articles placed within Directory/User space), protect intellectual property, and facilitate service/produce promotion; and
		+	# Foster a sense of community amongst like minded individuals and/or entities.
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		+	We came up with a technique called '''Aficionados'''. Using the template <nowiki>{{aficionados}}</nowiki>, one can automatically place a set of links pointing to different discussion/link sections residing in [[Centiare:Subpage\|subpages]]. Then, using a standard [[Centiare:ASK\|ASK]] query, a chart of links to other interested parties, their interests and their contributions can be automatically generated!
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		+	And the beauty of all this is that it uses semantic tags to facilitate both the relationships and generate reports. Pretty cool, huh? Having a simple policy like this allows the Main space to remain clean & uncluttered, and we don't have a lot of people jockeying & monkeying with link spam, etc.
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		+	If you want to see an example of this, go to [[Resource Description Framework]] itself. To maintain NPOV, you'll notice I edited out any Centiare references (we don't want to practice favoritism). However, click through to the links, and you'll see Centiare listed as an interested party, plus it has its own article on the subject.
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		+	Guess what? You can do the same exact thing for [[Directory:Francine Neago]]. That is, you can create Main space articles on subjects like primatology, then use Aficionados to point to your directory listing + any research papers, etc you'd like to place there. Let me know if you need any help putting this together - we'd be happy to help out. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 07:27, 5 February 2007 (PST)
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		+	==Wikilinks==
		+	I also noticed that you were using a lot of external links <nowiki>[ ]</nowiki>, rather than internal wikilinks <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki>. Internal links, especially those with semantic tags, seem to be picked up much better by search engines for [[SEO]]. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 07:27, 5 February 2007 (PST)