Directory:Wikia - Revision history

Badmachine: /* Wikia 2.0 leads to defections */ add Uncyclopedia

2013-06-03T21:25:03Z

Wikia 2.0 leads to defections: add Uncyclopedia

MyWikiBiz: /* Wikipedia as a staffing source for corrupt Wikia employees */

2013-04-09T20:00:05Z

Wikipedia as a staffing source for corrupt Wikia employees

MyWikiBiz: /* Wikipedia as a staffing source for corrupt Wikia employees */ Oh shit graph

2013-04-09T19:52:17Z

Wikipedia as a staffing source for corrupt Wikia employees: Oh shit graph

MyWikiBiz: /* Using Wikipedia as an external link farm */

2013-01-08T14:02:11Z

Using Wikipedia as an external link farm

MyWikiBiz: January 2013 -- 34,141 links to Wikia

2013-01-08T13:24:08Z

January 2013 -- 34,141 links to Wikia

MyWikiBiz: 80% Wikia + Bomis

2010-11-10T21:05:50Z

80% Wikia + Bomis

MyWikiBiz: /* Wikia was the Wikimedia Foundation's landlord */ Wording

2010-11-10T18:12:25Z

Wikia was the Wikimedia Foundation's landlord: Wording

MyWikiBiz: /* Using Wikipedia as an external link farm */ prep

2010-11-10T18:00:03Z

Using Wikipedia as an external link farm: prep

MyWikiBiz: /* Using Wikipedia as an external link farm */ Explaining more

2010-11-10T17:59:03Z

Using Wikipedia as an external link farm: Explaining more

MyWikiBiz: update for 2010

2010-11-10T16:21:51Z

update for 2010

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 ==Wikia 2.0 leads to defections==
-In late 2010, the Wikia company forced a new format and style called ''Oasis'' on all of its wiki communities.  Many of the leading members of these communities were so outraged by the lack of space for content and the lack of customization left to wiki hosts, they formed an [http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Anti-Wikia_Alliance Anti-Wikia Alliance] and began defecting with their content to new domains that they would host themselves.  Even one of Wikia's top wikis, the one that supports the "World of Warcraft" community, has dumped Wikia for a new site, [http://www.wowpedia.org/Portal:Main Wowpedia.org].  Even as 90% of the contributor base had already left, Wikia was not beneath trying to [http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Forum:Future_of_WoWWiki&t=20101027172800 bribe anyone] remaining to stay.
+In late 2010, the Wikia company forced a new format and style called ''Oasis'' on all of its wiki communities.  Many of the leading members of these communities were so outraged by the lack of space for content and the lack of customization left to wiki hosts, they formed an [http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Anti-Wikia_Alliance Anti-Wikia Alliance] and began defecting with their content to new domains that they would host themselves.  Even one of Wikia's top wikis, the one that supports the "World of Warcraft" community, has dumped Wikia for a new site, [http://www.wowpedia.org/Portal:Main Wowpedia.org].  Even as 90% of the contributor base had already left, Wikia was not beneath trying to [http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Forum:Future_of_WoWWiki&t=20101027172800 bribe anyone] remaining to stay. Wikia took another hit as a large portion of the Uncyclopedia community abandoned Wikia for a fork, currently hosted at [http://en.uncyclopedia.co uncyclopedia.co].
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 When ''The New Yorker'' outted Ryan Jordan's academic fraud, their editors contacted Jimmy Wales for comment.  Wales was quoted with the now infamous, "I regard it as a pseudonym and I don’t really have a problem with it."  This set off a firestorm of criticism, both within Wikipedia and external to the world's largest encyclopedia community.  Especially damaging seemed to be the numerous administrative cover-ups that attempted to hide the historical wiki record of Essjay's actions and the community debates that followed.
-Probably not coincidentally, the Essjay / Wikia scandal of March 2007 about exactly matches the month when Wikipedia began to see a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Enwp_retention_vs_active_editors.png marked decline] in active editors.
+Probably not coincidentally, the Essjay / Wikia scandal of March 2007 about exactly matches the month when Wikipedia began to see a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Enwp_retention_vs_active_editors.png marked decline] in active editors that has not reversed itself since.
 ==A "completely separate" organization==

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	When ''The New Yorker'' outted Ryan Jordan's academic fraud, their editors contacted Jimmy Wales for comment. Wales was quoted with the now infamous, "I regard it as a pseudonym and I don’t really have a problem with it." This set off a firestorm of criticism, both within Wikipedia and external to the world's largest encyclopedia community. Especially damaging seemed to be the numerous administrative cover-ups that attempted to hide the historical wiki record of Essjay's actions and the community debates that followed.		When ''The New Yorker'' outted Ryan Jordan's academic fraud, their editors contacted Jimmy Wales for comment. Wales was quoted with the now infamous, "I regard it as a pseudonym and I don’t really have a problem with it." This set off a firestorm of criticism, both within Wikipedia and external to the world's largest encyclopedia community. Especially damaging seemed to be the numerous administrative cover-ups that attempted to hide the historical wiki record of Essjay's actions and the community debates that followed.
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		+	Probably not coincidentally, the Essjay / Wikia scandal of March 2007 about exactly matches the month when Wikipedia began to see a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Enwp_retention_vs_active_editors.png marked decline] in active editors.

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 In the early part of 2007, Wales upped the ante and ordered that all external links from Wikipedia to outside sites should be hampered by a "nofollow" tag that would eliminate them from most search engine algorithms.  Wales claimed that he made this decision on guidance from "Google and others".  However, there was an exception to this new "nofollow" rule -- ''inter-wiki'' links, including many that pointed to Wikia.com, would still get treated as "do follow" links, which was a significant benefit to Wales' for-profit site and brought a rousing [http://techcrunch.com/2007/04/28/wikipedia-special-treatment-for-wikia-and-other-wikis/ criticism from the tech media].
-By December 2009, there were over 21,300 external links from Wikipedia to Wikia.com sites -- sites funded by Google AdSense and other advertising revenues, with not a dime going back to the crowd-sourced contributors.  By November 2010, that number had risen to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=5000&offset=20000&target=http%3A%2F%2F*.wikia.com 24,870 links] from Wikipedia, an increase of 16.8% in less than a year.  (Note, during that time period, Wikipedia article growth clocked in at 8.5%.  So, the rate of increase in Wikia-bound links from Wikipedia outpaces by 98% the rate of increase in natural Wikipedia growth.)  By the beginning of 2013, Wikipedia hosted over 34,100 external links to Wikia.com sites.  Of course, the more links, the more traffic; and the more traffic, the more money in Jimbo Wales' pocket.
+By December 2009, there were over 21,300 external links from Wikipedia to Wikia.com sites -- sites funded by Google AdSense and other advertising revenues, with not a dime going back to the crowd-sourced contributors.  By November 2010, that number had risen to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=5000&offset=20000&target=http%3A%2F%2F*.wikia.com 24,870 links] from Wikipedia, an increase of 16.8% in less than a year.  (Note, during that time period, Wikipedia article growth clocked in at 8.5%.  So, the rate of increase in Wikia-bound links from Wikipedia outpaces by 98% the rate of increase in natural Wikipedia growth.)  By the beginning of 2013, Wikipedia hosted over 34,100 external links to Wikia.com sites, which represents over 800 links to Wikia per 100,000 Wikipedia articles -- one of the highest ratios of any external website.  Of course, the more links, the more traffic; and the more traffic, the more money in Jimbo Wales' pocket.
 ==Wikia was the Wikimedia Foundation's landlord==

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 In the early part of 2007, Wales upped the ante and ordered that all external links from Wikipedia to outside sites should be hampered by a "nofollow" tag that would eliminate them from most search engine algorithms.  Wales claimed that he made this decision on guidance from "Google and others".  However, there was an exception to this new "nofollow" rule -- ''inter-wiki'' links, including many that pointed to Wikia.com, would still get treated as "do follow" links, which was a significant benefit to Wales' for-profit site and brought a rousing [http://techcrunch.com/2007/04/28/wikipedia-special-treatment-for-wikia-and-other-wikis/ criticism from the tech media].
-By December 2009, there were over 21,300 external links from Wikipedia to Wikia.com sites -- sites funded by Google AdSense and other advertising revenues, with not a dime going back to the crowd-sourced contributors.  By November 2010, that number had risen to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=5000&offset=20000&target=http%3A%2F%2F*.wikia.com 24,870 links] from Wikipedia, an increase of 16.8% in less than a year.  (Note, during that time period, Wikipedia article growth clocked in at 8.5%.  So, the rate of increase in Wikia-bound links from Wikipedia outpaces by 98% the rate of increase in natural Wikipedia growth.)  Of course, the more links, the more traffic; and the more traffic, the more money in Jimbo Wales' pocket.
+By December 2009, there were over 21,300 external links from Wikipedia to Wikia.com sites -- sites funded by Google AdSense and other advertising revenues, with not a dime going back to the crowd-sourced contributors.  By November 2010, that number had risen to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=5000&offset=20000&target=http%3A%2F%2F*.wikia.com 24,870 links] from Wikipedia, an increase of 16.8% in less than a year.  (Note, during that time period, Wikipedia article growth clocked in at 8.5%.  So, the rate of increase in Wikia-bound links from Wikipedia outpaces by 98% the rate of increase in natural Wikipedia growth.)  By the beginning of 2013, Wikipedia hosted over 34,100 external links to Wikia.com sites.  Of course, the more links, the more traffic; and the more traffic, the more money in Jimbo Wales' pocket.
 ==Wikia was the Wikimedia Foundation's landlord==

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 '''Wikia''' (originally "WikiCities") was co-founded in 2004 by [[Directory:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] co-founder [[Directory:Jimmy Wales|Jimmy Wales]] and [[Directory:Angela Beesley|Angela Beesley]].  They hoped to capitalize financially on the working model presented by Wikipedia.  In fact, it has been said that Wales' ambition was to take the success of Wikipedia and "[http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/archives/001343.html commercialize the hell out of it]."
-At one time, 60% of the [[Directory:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]] board of trustees were simultaneously employees of Wikia. This is why even BBC News calls Wikia "[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11715876 the for-profit sister site of Wikipedia]".
+As recently as September 2006, [http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Board_of_Trustees&direction=prev&oldid=15575 eighty percent] of the [[Directory:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]] board of trustees seats were dedicated to high-ranking Wikia employees and a co-founder of Bomis.com, Jimmy Wales' prior business venture.  This is why even BBC News calls Wikia "[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11715876 the for-profit sister site of Wikipedia]".
 ==Using Wikipedia as an external link farm==

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 <blockquote>''They <nowiki>[the Wikimedia Foundation]</nowiki> approached us and asked if they could rent space on a temporary basis.. and I think it ended up being 4-6 months give or take.   I thought about giving it to them for free and I wasn't sure which was worse... getting accused of bribing a non-profit for giving it away, or getting accused of stealing for a non-profit for charging... so we ended up asking them to get competitng (sic) quotes from other landlords so that THEY could feel comfortable with the decision.''</blockquote>
-First there is a request to rent space from a hand-picked bidder, and only ''then'' a suggestion to get competing bids from other landlords?  It sounds like someone at the Wikimedia Foundation wanted to make sure that Jimmy Wales' for-profit company had the inside track on that bid, worth many thousands of dollars.  This scenario describes a failure in [[Ethical_accountability#Wikimedia_Foundation|ethical accountability]].
+The facts clearly show that a request to rent space was delivered to a hand-picked bidder, and only ''then'' was a suggestion made to get competing bids from other landlords.  It sounds like someone at the Wikimedia Foundation wanted to make sure that Jimmy Wales' for-profit company had the inside track on that bid, worth many thousands of dollars.  This scenario quite frankly describes a failure in [[Ethical_accountability#Wikimedia_Foundation|ethical accountability]].
 ==Wikipedia as a staffing source for corrupt Wikia employees==

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 ==Using Wikipedia as an external link farm==
-[[Image:Why Wales Blocked Kohs (screen cap).jpg|right|thumb|400px|One way Wikia infiltrated Wikipedia]]The only period when external links from Wikipedia to Wikia were in decline were the two months prior to October 2006.  Immediately after Jimmy Wales blocked one of his leading critics from Wikipedia, the link expansion continued unabated.  As of December 2009, there were over 21,300 external links from Wikipedia to Wikia.com sites -- sites funded by Google AdSense and other advertising revenues.  By November 2010, that number had increased to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=5000&offset=20000&target=http%3A%2F%2F*.wikia.com 24,870 links] from Wikipedia, an increase of 16.8% in less than a year.  So, the more links, the more traffic; and the more traffic, the more money in Jimbo Wales' pocket.
+[[Image:Why Wales Blocked Kohs (screen cap).jpg|right|thumb|400px|One way Wikia infiltrated Wikipedia]]The only period when external links from Wikipedia to Wikia were in decline were the two months prior to October 2006.  Immediately after Jimmy Wales blocked one of his leading critics from Wikipedia, the link expansion continued unabated.
 ==Wikia was the Wikimedia Foundation's landlord==