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--- Log opened Thu May 30 00:00:11 2013
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01:35 < dtm_> mareklug: i got some 3D glasses from China for that much!
01:35 < dtm_> straight from china, via ebay
01:36 < mareklug> 1.39 for five cr2025 batteries, or 4.99 for two 3.6volt lithium PRAM batteries?
01:37 < dtm_> for five?  are they maybe hand-assembled in an asian recycling factory?
01:38 < mareklug> no, but maye they were form a stolen lot.
01:38 < mareklug> insane prices
01:38 < dtm_> that too.  i was assuming good will.
01:39 < mareklug> i just need A battery for my stoooooopid remote for Bose SoundDock.  But hey, a single battery even on Amazon is about 4 bucks and then shipping...
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01:43 < mareklug> dtm_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZOWP6QQdRE  have you seen the little Icelander do this?  It's from her opera houses tour, and the piece, "Aurora" is from the 2001 album Vespertine.  The choir is a bunch of fat Greenlandic ladies.
01:43 < iDM> What's your favourit idea? Mine is being creative...
01:43 < mareklug> the electronic dudes are Matmos
01:43 < iDM> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C_HReR_McQ
01:43 < mareklug> the harpist is Zeena Parkins
01:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22700415
01:44 < mareklug> and the orchestra is local to the city, in this case I think London Philharmonic
01:44 < dtm_> mareklug: cool i'll take a look tomorrow.  watchin Burn Notice now.
01:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Takeaways near schools in Salford could be banned from selling "hot food over the counter" before 17:00 to encourage children to eat healthily.
01:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> why not do it like guantanamo
01:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> force feed!
01:45 < iDM> yawns
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01:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.un-ngls.org/orf/food-force.htm
01:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Russian S300 anti-aircraft missiles 'delivered to Syria'
01:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> arent S300s surface to surface?
01:48 < iDM> Damn you ToAruShiroiNeko
01:48 < iDM> Ordering KFC now
01:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm
01:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> SA-10 so no :/
01:49 < mareklug> iDM be sure to get that double meat sandwich without any buns
01:49 < iDM> They dpn
01:49 < iDM> Don
01:49 < mareklug> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/24/kfcs-double-down-sandwich_n_266848.html
01:49 < iDM> f... ,my keyboard
01:50 < iDM> No bacon here... thus no double down
01:50 < mareklug> no bacon in all of Karachi??????
01:51 < iDM> No.
01:51 < iDM> Its HARAM
01:51 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko no, not even Belgians have such fine …food   http://hikeclimbsurfrun.com/2010/04/the-hairnets-are-off/
01:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> bacon is cheap
01:53 < iDM> I am finishing my last bottle of Vin Santo
01:53 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug have you ever had fries with the side dish of fries?
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01:54 < mareklug> iDM I joined a vinesse California Wine Club just to get their initial offer of 6 bottles of fine wine, their choice, for 46 bucks delivered.  They I promptly deffered teh next shipment to August.  But the 6 bottles were goooooooood
01:54 < iDM> Cool
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01:55 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko ask petan.  it is Czech Republic that serves fries inside hamburger buns, wtihout any hamburger meat.
01:55 < petan> mareklug let me know when you find some :P
01:56 < petan> I haven't seen this anywhere here...
01:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> petan that has bread around it
01:56 < mareklug> petan I gave you links with undoubted czech content, so don't be so in De Nile.
01:56 < petan> except for newspaper picture which is making fun of that
01:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> are newspapers RS?
01:56 < iDM> Hey petan old boy
01:56 < petan> RS?
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01:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> reliable source
01:57 < petan> no
01:57 < petan> especially if they make fun of stuff
01:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you cant even play videos on newspapers
01:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> how can I trust a median that boycotts videos
01:57 < mareklug> petan you keep forgetting the actual pictures Herr Kriss took while visiting Moravia was it?
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01:58 < petan> huh?
01:58 < mareklug> remember?  I asked Herr Kriss for links that he posted on wikipedia-pl and I pasted them here.   from his camera
01:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug I heard they oppened a belgian food shop near you
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02:00 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko i told you we have a belgian and a brazilian restaurant here.  well, one of each, maybe 2 of hte brazilian kind.  definitely one belgian though.
02:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> belgians have restourants?!
02:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> drive thru?
02:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :p
02:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> McDonalds drive thru doesnt qualify as a belgian restourant (if you only order fries)
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02:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2013/05/30/ac-intv-mccain-unfair-fight.cnn
02:02 < mareklug> what is adequate for gigabit ethernet?  cat 6?
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02:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Cat5e will be fine until you want 10GbE
02:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/201372-full-gigabit-infrastructure-cat5e-or-cat6
02:04 < mareklug> no, cat5e is only rated for fast ethernet
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02:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you might as well get a cat6 if you want to upgrade later
02:05 < mareklug> the difference is pennies.  esp on amazon
02:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> your bottle neck would be drive read speed for now
02:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I'd get a cat6 then
02:05 < mareklug> I just need two stretches of really good cable to make my imac <---> time Capsule and   cable modem <---> Time Capsule #2   connections.  nothing else needs to be fast.
02:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you could use what I use
02:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.devolo.com/
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02:07 < mareklug> well, that's overkill.  2 bits of 10 bucks will do me just fine, maybe even half that in one case.
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02:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mmm
02:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the point is its cable independent
02:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I suppose your disance isnt far
02:09 < mareklug> http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10232
02:09 < mareklug> these prices are ridiculously low, and you get to pick pretty colors.  what a way to decorate a messy apartment
02:09 < Mouse|Annoyed> Ah, che bel vivere, che bel piacere (che bel Piacere) Per un barbiere di qualita! (di qualita! )..... sings
02:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug you could use them to replace wallpaper :p
02:11 < mareklug> 5FT 24AWG Cat6 550MHz UTP Ethernet Bare Copper Network Cable - Red    $1.29                   total: $2.58
02:11 < mareklug> that is insanely cheap.  of course they will charge unreasonable shipping.
02:12 < mareklug> I was wrong!!!!   Grand Total
02:12 < mareklug> $5.15
02:12 < mareklug> well, with prices like that, might as well buy a properly long one (25 footer)
02:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug ya
02:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> buy two
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02:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you could use one to give internet to the neighbouring apartment :p
02:14 < mareklug> two forest green ones, for $4.44 each :)
02:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> why green?
02:14 < mareklug> because I have blue, gray, yellow, black, and this way I will know instantly that my gigabit cables are red and green. :)
02:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pink! :p
02:15 < mareklug> there is orange, red, green, don;t see pink
02:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> at the end
02:15 < SigmaWP> good night people
02:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10232&cs_id=1023201&p_id=7504&seq=1&format=2
02:15 < mareklug> that's hundred feet.  that's 5 times too long
02:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you could go for red or yellow for "hot" color
02:16 < BlastHardcheese> mareklug: no, you can use cat 5e for up to 10Gbps ethernet at 55 meters - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10-gigabit_Ethernet
02:16 < mareklug> like I said, I already have two short yellow cables
02:17 < mareklug> I can't even FIND 5e at monoprice
02:17 < BlastHardcheese> then you're not looking at the right place, they have shitloads
02:17 < BlastHardcheese> http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10208
02:18 < BlastHardcheese> also bulk cable in a separate section
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02:21 < mareklug> BlastHardcheese I'd have to buy a crimping tool and the doodahs that go on the end, too much hassle
02:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug honestly it doesnt matter what you get unless you have SSD on both ends
02:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I have a crimping tool
02:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I can crimp
02:22 < mareklug> well, I may well hae SSDs on both ends sooner or later, so why not spend the pennies to get the 6
02:22 < dtm_> from the guild of copyeditors:  シ31 August 2010Going to try to copyedit all the articles starting with Q - wish me luck!
02:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug ya
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02:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> or get raid 0s on both ends :p
02:23 < dtm_> ToAruShiroiNeko: he's seriously looking for any reason whatsoever to blow cash and time ;)
02:23 < mareklug> BlastHardcheese the difference is about a dollar.  on 20-25 footers.  you think it is a worthwhile saving on 4 cables total?
02:23 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug what exactly is your intended use
02:23 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I mean how many devices do you have in mind
02:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if shipping isnt an issue you can get them later too :p
02:24 < mareklug> i already said FOR NOW I will use gigabit connections by wire from workstation to time capsule and from time capsule 2 to cable modem.
02:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I know that
02:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> intended as in potential future :/
02:25 < mareklug> fine.  in the order of saving money, I got one PALE PINK 5e 20footer
02:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you shouldnt see a whole lot of traffic in such a simple network
02:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yay
02:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> PINK
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02:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you should take photos and replace the iimage on cat5 on wikipedia with it :p
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02:27 < dtm_> yeah.
02:27 < BlastHardcheese> I know I never buy bulk cable because I'm lazy
02:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug hot <3
02:28 < mareklug> anyway, i got two red cat 6 at 5 foot  for those workstation needs, and one 20 foot and one 30 foot PALE PINK cat5e for wiring across the rooms
02:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> hehe, I was joking but I suppose it works :)
02:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> all your network traffic will be fabulous now
02:29 < mareklug> total cost with delivery in 2-3 days (cheapest option):  17.09.    I think a long ethernet cable on amazon would cost that much alone.
02:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> amazon sells more famous brands
02:31 < dtm_> hehe look at the header warnings here.  how else would one just say "this article is a pile of crap"?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Manookian
02:31 < mareklug> it's ethernet cable!  how famous a brand does it ahve to be
02:31 < dtm_> mareklug: is it cat-proof
02:31 < mareklug> i ate all the cats already.
02:32 < mareklug> so yes, by definition.
02:32 < BlastHardcheese> would you really trust your data to anything less that Premium Monster Cable™
02:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug it has copper made from the most esquisite mines
02:32 < mareklug> hahhahahhah.  did you see Crutchfield online, selling audio cables for 600 bucks?
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02:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug they have gold connectors!
02:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats more conductive than cheap copper
02:33 < mareklug> so do my 2.40 dollar cables I got and still ahve not unpacked.
02:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug I know that
02:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but thats their argument
02:33 < BlastHardcheese> who wants to use copper cables like some kind of poor person
02:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if the tips are gold plated... its perfect
02:33 < mareklug> there is no argument, it is a rip off catering to snobs
02:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BlastHardcheese copper is worth a lot nowadays
02:33 < dtm_> poor people's gold.
02:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug if people are stupid thats their problem
02:34 < BlastHardcheese> so is crack
02:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> dtm_ actually no, copper is quite valuable
02:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so much so that pennies have none of it
02:34 < BlastHardcheese> but would you let your peers at the country club see you smoking crack rocks instead of doing lines
02:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> *almost none of it
02:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/20/304416/russian-med-fleet-warning-to-israel/
02:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> .ir is iran I think
02:35 < dtm_> guys, how can i tell why an image disappeared from this infobox?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hill_(chef)
02:35 < iDM> PerssTV
02:35 < iDM> is rubbish
02:36 < dtm_> i uploaded that image but i was never notified of its deletion
02:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:George_Hill,_portrait.jpg
02:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> dtm_ no OTRS permission
02:37 < dtm_> ToAruShiroiNeko: wat.  He emailed them.
02:37 < dtm_> the copyright holder did.
02:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> well, take the matter with the deleting individual
02:38 < dtm_> :-[
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02:39 < dtm_> ToAruShiroiNeko: how'd you find that btw?  i followed the link and it's just nonexistent.
02:39 < dtm_> i searched for the filename on commons.wikimedia.org and i get bunk
02:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I just went to commons and typed filename
02:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> to the url bar
02:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I predicted where the file would be basically
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02:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22684359
02:42 < dtm_> ToAruShiroiNeko: what do you mean you predicted it
02:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I expect deleted files to show up on commons
02:42 < dtm_> what?
02:43 < dtm_> what does that mean
02:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I expect deleted files to show up on commons - as in they were deleted at commons
02:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> rather than local wikis
02:44 < dtm_> what are you talking about?  that's exactly where it's hosted.  there's nothing to predict.
02:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ?
02:44 < dtm_> yes.
02:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you seem to be confused
02:45 < dtm_> the term "what are you talking about?" does directly indicate that, yes
02:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> did you hurt yourself in confusion?
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02:45 < dtm_> when you see a file linked from wikimedia commons, you don't predict that it was deleted from wikimedia commons.
02:45 < dtm_> that's not a prediction.
02:46 < dtm_> that doesn't make any sense.
02:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no file is linked from commons
02:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they are all linked locally first then at commons.
02:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I predicted that it was at commons not at en.wikipedia
02:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you know what, forget it
02:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sorry I bothered
02:47 < dtm_> ok.  i see.  sorry.  anyway, like i said, i searched for the filename at commons.wikimedia.org but it doesn't show up.
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03:11 < Peter-C> Whoooo
03:11 < Peter-C> 79 calls this year for me alone
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03:13 < tommorris> hey Peter-C
03:13 < Peter-C> yo
03:14 < tommorris> you still saving the day everyday?
03:14 < James_F> Up at 06:14, no less.
03:14 < iDM> Hello Peter-C
03:14 < iDM> James_F: Sup
03:14 < Peter-C> Apparently not. It averages it out to about .5 a day
03:14 < iDM> Tom
03:14 < tommorris> hullo.
03:14 < Peter-C> James_F - Why are you up now?
03:15 < James_F> Peter-C: It's 11:15 here in London. :-
03:15 < James_F> )
03:15 < Peter-C> You're in London?
03:15 < iDM> Peter-C: Sad isn't he?
03:16 < James_F> Peter-C: I am, yes, briefly. Back in SF on Saturday.
03:16 < Peter-C> Ah
03:16 < Peter-C> Here is some European music for you - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Y1sEmyymw
03:17 < iDM> ugh
03:17 < iDM> Horrible taste.
03:19 < tommorris> techno is dance music with all the things that make dance music awesome stripped away
03:19 < iDM> Not my cup of tea. Prefer classical.
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03:22 < tommorris> I've been listening Mozart's Requiem this week at work.
03:22 < tommorris> mostly because I can listen to Mozart when I have a splitting headache, which I can't do when I'm listening to house music. ;)
03:23 < iDM> Handel - Messiah, and lots of bagpipes
03:24 < mareklug> dtm_  http://www.speedtest.net/result/2740872734.png   still with repeater station on air.  a little bit of tweaking did it. :)
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03:24 < iDM> tommorris: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_(Handel)
03:25 < Peter-C> I have an extra $20 in my pocket
03:25 < Peter-C> <3
03:25 < tommorris> as for dance music, this is far more fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65WsvdMrXeI
03:26 < iDM> Can't youtube
03:26 < iDM> Peter-C: May I suggest spending it on something?
03:26 < tommorris> spotify?
03:26 < mareklug> tommorris do you like Kimbra?
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03:27 < tommorris> mareklug: haven't listened to her
03:27 < mareklug> I'll link you my favorite live studio session.
03:28 < mareklug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewMTRN9So88&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLBE4FAF539514C91E  Kimbra - Live at Sing Sing Studios (5 songs)
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03:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if you have extra 20$, donate it to the TASNSF
03:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ToAruShiroiNekoSupportFund
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03:32 < BlastHardcheese> TANSTATASNSF
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03:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> two stories on CNN: 1: Baghdad blasts kill 8 people, wound 33. 2: Why are Iraq's Sunnis
03:35 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko id you 'ave extra $20, spend it at Monoprice on PALE PINK ethernet cable...
03:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> could the blasts be why they are that upset?
03:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug probably I'd get pink wireless
03:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> which sends wireless signals pink
03:36 < mareklug> in pink noise, is more like it.
03:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> well yes
03:36 < mareklug> do you even know there is such a thing?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_noise
03:36 < mareklug> fractal noise
03:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> how interesting
03:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so it is :o
03:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I wonder why it is called that
03:37 < mareklug> the difference between me and you ToAruShiroiNeko is that I knew this in the 1970s.
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03:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I wasnt alive in 1970s
03:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats another difference between you and me
03:38 < anustart> isn't pink noise the one you use to burn in new headphones?
03:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :p
03:38 < mareklug> but I was a teenager.  How many teens these days know about fractal noise?
03:39 < mareklug> do you think Peter-C, IShadowed_ or Carly know about 1/f noise?
03:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug to be fair, I think we are living in an era of information overload
03:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its like a big dumpster
03:39 < anustart> i don't think most teenagers would have known about pink noise in the 70s either
03:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> too much irrelevant info all around
03:39 < anustart> selection bias
03:40 < anustart> tommorris: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Tr6GYDFtg
03:41 < IShadowed_> please don't lump me in the same category as Peter-C
03:41 < IShadowed_> ever
03:41 < IShadowed_> Carly too
03:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> IShadowed_ you are in the same category
03:41 < mareklug> IShadowed_ well do you know about fractal noise?
03:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> [[Category:People]]
03:41 < IShadowed_> hardly
03:41 < IShadowed_> 9_9
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03:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug why not be more cryptic
03:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> call it 1/f noise :p
03:42 < Peter-C> hey IShadowed_ <3
03:42 < IShadowed_> mareklug, I've heard about it and heard it, sure
03:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> or f^-1 noise
03:42  * IShadowed_ usually listens to brown noise, but has heard pink
03:42 < IShadowed_> ....that sounds horrible out of context
03:42 < IShadowed_> whatever.
03:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> PINKNOISE (all caps) is an Indian experimental band from Kolkata.
03:42 < mareklug> IShadowed_ I was fascinated by the fact, that if you pan your camera across a craggly beach or any landscape at all, you are taking in 1/f noise.
03:42 < IShadowed_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_noise
03:42 < mareklug> self-similar fractals everywehre.
03:44  * anustart prefers this pink noise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_(album)
03:44 < wctaiwan> mareklug: http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/30/4378998/16-gb-ipod-touch-specs-price-release-date
03:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> hah apple still has touch based hardware
03:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> google is going for glass
03:45 < mareklug> wctaiwan no rear facing camera???
03:46 < wctaiwan> mareklug: I could live with that. I barely ever use the camera on my phone
03:46 < mareklug> wctaiwan and wehn I do, I take shitty pictures on purpose.
03:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> why do people buy ipods?
03:46 < mareklug> ipod is wonderful.
03:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it is?
03:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> what can it do smart phones cant?
03:47 < mareklug> my 4th generation machine is my smartphone, except for making phone calls
03:47 < mareklug> and I could make it do that if I wanted to over voip
03:47 < wctaiwan> mareklug: well, there you go then. Time to refresh your iPod so it'll properly run iOS 7.
03:47 < anustart> ToAruShiroiNeko: i bought an iPod because i didn't want a smartphone
03:47 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko it can keep your money in your pocket, first of all.  no monthly expensive data plans
03:47 < mareklug> or phone plans
03:47 < mareklug> remember, this is USA
03:47 < wctaiwan> (same goes for my samsung)
03:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I got that
03:47 < mareklug> land of hte unreasonable phone expenses
03:47 < anustart> just wanted something for games and music
03:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but if you own a smartphone would you also buy an ipod?
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03:48 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko you might.  it is less expensive.  you might want to use it where it is high risk you will be parted with it
03:48 < mareklug> ipod is great for watching live sports.
03:49 < wctaiwan> mareklug: I'd have got it in a heartbeat if I didn't have a smartphone.. but the same probably goes for an iPhone 5.
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03:50 < wctaiwan> android is definitely not bad, but I fit squarely in the middle of apple's target audience.
03:50 < mareklug> i will sit out this iteration.  the 4th generation is still adequate for my needs.
03:50 < wctaiwan> it probably won't run iOS 7.
03:51 < wctaiwan> judging from the very existence of this product.
03:51 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko you can even run remote desktop from an iPod. :)
03:51 < mareklug> wctaiwan why do you say that?  it has the horses.
03:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug I own an N9 I can do all that and more with it
03:52 < wctaiwan> I think the main reason apple did a one-off update to an iPod while cutting advertised features means they really don't want to keep the last generation around
03:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I cant make video calls with skype tho
03:52 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko but this N9 (a nokia phone?) would cost a lot of money to maintain in the USA
03:52 < wctaiwan> so it makes sense that the 4th gen iPod touch would be obsolete come iOS 7.
03:52 < tommorris> mobile gadgets are boring, rubbish little computers with fiddly keyboards. I want them to all go away.
03:52 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko I talk to my father on my iPod (or my iMac) in facetime
03:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> N9 is a Meego OS phone Nokia discontinued due to Microsoft sellout
03:53 < wctaiwan> that said, probably also means that there will be no iPod touch update this year.
03:53 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so its more of a cosumer-grade developer phone
03:53 < ToAruShiroiNeko> My goal was to turn it into a wearable computer but I havent had the time
03:53 < wctaiwan> tommorris: smartphones are nifty for certain things
03:53 < mareklug> wctaiwan we shall see come the week of June 10.
03:54 < wctaiwan> reading on the metro, listening to music, taking quick photos, killing time in general.
03:54 < mareklug> tommorris I discovered I could deposit paper checks to Chase (or Bank of America) by photographing them with my iPod.  no shit useless.
03:55 < tommorris> meh. bank transfer. free and near instantaneous.
03:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> google glass kind of discourages me from trying too hard tho
03:55 < mareklug> tommorris stuck with paper checks I had.
03:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I'll probably never experience it in the flesh :/
03:56 < mareklug> tommorris also, dunno about UK, but here banks charge out the wazoo both for incoming and outgoing wire transfers outside their own accounts sphere
03:56 < tommorris> I haven't paid in a cheque for ages. probably over a year or more. get paid by bank transfer.
03:56 < wctaiwan> mareklug: my predictions for this year: macbook air design refresh, retina imac, macbook pro getting killed off, no new ipods, iPhone 5S, new mid-range iPhone, iPhone 4 / 4S killed off, retina iPad mini.
03:56 < tommorris> mareklug: in the EU, bank transfers are free.
03:56 < tommorris> actually, not sure about the EU
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03:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> EU has no such thing
03:57 < tommorris> certainly in the UK, bank transfers are free and usually done in under an hour
03:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I can send money to another EU country free of charge
03:57 < NotASpy> tommorris: last cheque I got was from RBS for overpaying my credit card. By direct debt.
03:57 < mareklug> here they cost at least 25 dollars.  also, our credit cards charge 3% for foreign transactions.  except for Discover card.
03:57 < addshore> Theopolisme: ping me when and if your around? :)
03:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug US banks are almost as barbaric as Turkish ones.
03:57 < NotASpy> mareklug: you need a better bank.
03:58 < mareklug> NotASpy i laugh in your general direction.  That is par for all banks here.
03:58 < wctaiwan> mareklug: the rest of us laugh in your general direction. We pay less for banking, telco, internet, cable
03:58 < wctaiwan> and it's less shit.
03:59 < NotASpy> I know a lot of folk use PayPal now for day to day banking - app on their phone, send money to friends, all that sort of stuff.
03:59 < mareklug> wctaiwan true. but our food prices are lowest in the world in civilized countries
03:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> NotASpy pay pal is a product of US banking system
03:59 < mareklug> for instance, tomorrow I go to Whole Foods, the epicurean paragone of too much prices, to stock up on organic blueberries which will be sold that day for 1.99 a pint.
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03:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its so unworkable people go for something as ridiclous as paypal
03:59 < mareklug> how much do fresh blueberries in May cost in Taiwan?
04:00 < wctaiwan> not sure
04:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug US is great for shopping, horrible for healthcare
04:00 < wctaiwan> we have our fruits.
04:00 < wctaiwan> mangoes, for example. Watermelons. Bananas.
04:00 < mareklug> we have mangoes on sale for 49 cents each
04:01 < mareklug> bananas right now for 29 cents a pound
04:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug I have seen cheaper prices
04:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> in Egypt :p
04:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> whom had US apples for whatever the reason
04:01 < mareklug> US exports a lot of great washington state-grown apples
04:01 < wctaiwan> who*
04:01 < wctaiwan> don't overcorrect.
04:01 < mareklug> just like New Zealand does.
04:03 < mareklug> wctaiwan so, basically, I think I found out why the other IIci won;t boot.  I took it apart and the 3.6 volt lithium PRAM battery shows ZERO volts on my voltmeter.  Even my dead CR2025 coin lithium 3v jobbers show half a volt.
04:04 < mareklug> I'm told the PRAM battery supplies initial current to ADB bus.  and without it, no go.
04:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug I do not dispute that
04:04 < wctaiwan> heh
04:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it was odd to be served US made apples during wikimania tho
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04:05 < wctaiwan> what you need is a stroopwafel.
04:06 < wctaiwan> heck, what I need is a stroopwafel
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04:06 < mareklug> wctaiwan that thing is icky, sticky and a general misuse of cinnamon.  I suggest Pepper Ridge Milano orange or Double Chocolate cookies.
04:07 < mareklug> which are also insanely expensive usually, but imagine, I managed to snarf 2 packages of 17 ounces each for less than 2 bucks each.
04:07 < wctaiwan> for mass-produced fattening junk pepperidge farm is way overpriced.
04:07 < mareklug> wctaiwan it does good cookie.
04:08 < mareklug> Milano, Brussels, and the large chewey ones with chunks of chocolate and pie.
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04:13 < Pharos> any british here?
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04:13 < mareklug> Pharos NotASpy, tommorris
04:13 < Pharos> is the UK geonotice still working for you?
04:14 < Pharos> I made a change
04:17 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko the teabagger/would be President lady bows out of politics http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57586567/michele-bachmann-not-running-for-re-election-to-house/
04:19 < Pharos> she's prepping for 2016
04:19 < mareklug> stick a fork in her.  she is done.
04:20 < Pharos> i will not let myself believe this
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04:23 < tommorris> now now, it might not be that she's prepping for 2016. it could be she's leaving politics so her lovely husband can come out of the closet.
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04:24 < Qcoder00> hi tommorris
04:24 < mareklug> Pharos it also means a likely pick up of a seat for Democrats
04:24 < mareklug> reversing the trend in the house
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04:25 < tommorris> the Republicans couldn't be stupid enough to choose Bachmann as their candidate
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04:26 < Qcoder00> Hi all
04:26 < mareklug> it will be the fat amiable man of Jersey
04:26 < Qcoder00> I'd like a consesus on something
04:26 < mareklug> Qcoder00 feed them cookies, and tehy will be eating out of your hand.
04:26 < tommorris> a consensus? we're wikipedians, darn it.
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04:27 < Qcoder00> I do a small amount of work on images, and I'd like a 'permission' that any image of someone under 18 can be remvoed if their is no indication of model release aftaer June 1st 2013
04:27 < NotASpy> Pharos: think so. Meet ups in Oxford, London and Saffron Walden and a gallery visit in Walsall coming up for me.
04:28 < Pharos> come to think of it, the republicans have made fairly strategic presidential choices
04:28 < Qcoder00> MeetUp in oxford?
04:28 < Qcoder00> What are you up to in Oxford?
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04:28 < Pharos> NotASpy: i actually reverted the change already because i got scared i might break something ;)
04:28 < NotASpy> ah right, OK.
04:29 < Pharos> but as of this week, we can now target countries directly with geonotice
04:29 < Pharos> instead of drawing rectangles
04:29 < Qcoder00> tommorris:  About my question
04:29 < NotASpy> Qcoder00: top of my watchlist, the geonotice doo dah. Not going near Oxford if at all avoidable.
04:30 < tommorris> Qcoder00: yeah, you ain't getting that kind of consensus on IRC. Propose it on Village Pump (policy) or whatever the place of choice for imagefolk is
04:30 < Qcoder00> tommorris:  I might just IAR it to be fair
04:30 < Qcoder00> But VP sounds like a good idea...
04:30 < Pharos> edit summary: consensus on IRC that notability is no longer a useful paradigm!
04:31 < tommorris> err, there are times to invoke IAR. this is not one of them.
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04:33 < Pharos> generally, you invoke IAR when it is necessary to temporarily delete the Main Page in order to save the lives of a container ship full of kittens
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04:35 < Pharos> something that is clearly against the rules, but you do it anyway
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04:37 < NotASpy> it might be possible to get some consensus to delete some images of clearly under 18 year old subjects, but don't expect to be deleting vast numbers of images.
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04:37 < iDM> Hello NotASpy
04:37 < NotASpy> hiya iDM, how's you ?
04:37 < Qcoder00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Policy_Change_.28Images_of_minors.29
04:37 < Qcoder00> Comments wanted
04:38 < iDM> NotASpy: eating at the moment, you
04:38 < Qcoder00> I've said July1st because  it's going to need at least a month to get a consensus either way
04:38 < Pharos> isn't this already policy?
04:38 < Pharos> more or less
04:38 < NotASpy> could we get a few extra pairs of eyes on [[Disappearance of April Jones]] - the suspect Mark Bridger has just been found guilty/ convicted of murder.
04:39 < Qcoder00> NotASpy: Has the conviction been confirmed in a reliable source?
04:39 < NotASpy> BBC
04:40 < Qcoder00> OK
04:40 < Qcoder00> Can't argue with that
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04:45 < iDM> Being trolled by cream/derp is wonderful
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04:58 < mareklug> Currently spinningVladimir Vladimir by Jane Siberry from the album The Speckless Sky
04:59 < mareklug> *fixing space*
04:59 < mareklug> Currently spinningVladimir Vladimir by Jane Siberry from the album The Speckless Sky
04:59 < mareklug> fuck the script and the horse it rode in on.
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05:00 < GorillaWarfare> Ragequit?
05:00 < GorillaWarfare> xD
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05:01 < iDM> Hello GorillaWarfare
05:01 < iDM> I think his browser froze
05:01 < GorillaWarfare> Hey iDM
05:01 < mareklug> Currently spinning  Vladimir Vladimir by Jane Siberry from the album The Speckless Sky
05:01  * iDM hugs GW, and gives her cookies
05:01 < mareklug> bettah
05:02 < mareklug> it better be Pepperridge Farms cookies
05:02 < iDM> mareklug, I am enjoying my SesameStreet moment.
05:02 < GorillaWarfare> I don't discriminate when it comes to cookies
05:02 < mareklug> GorillaWarfare you are a cookie monster
05:02 < iDM> C" is for Cookie that's good enough for me, "C" is for cookie that's good enough for me, "C" is for cookie that's good enough for me, Oh! cookie, cookie, cookie starts with "C"!
05:03 < GorillaWarfare> :D
05:03 < iDM> mareklug that would be me.
05:03 < mareklug> iDM you can be Elmo
05:03 < mareklug> almost the same look.
05:04 < iDM> You have not even seen me, I am a hairy beast, or I may be bald..
05:06 < GorillaWarfare> Need more coffee... don't want to move
05:06 < iDM> What does Michael Jackson call a Tickle-Me-Elmo doll?
05:06 < iDM> Bait!
05:07 < GorillaWarfare> -.-
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05:07 < mareklug> you should retire your MJ jokes.  he dead.
05:08 < iDM> Okay.
05:08 < Pharos> there are about 15 things wrong with that joke
05:08 < iDM> GorillaWarfare , Want this for your birthday ? http://www.seriouseats.com/2009/07/video-japanese-robot-girl-makes-coffee.html
05:08 < mareklug> Currently spinning  Landó by Chabuca Granda from the album Afro-Peruvian Classics: The Soul Of Black Peru
05:08 < iDM> Pharos: I know, couldn't think of any Elmo jokes.
05:08 < GorillaWarfare> iDM: Coffee-making robot? Count me in.
05:09 < iDM> :D
05:09 < Pharos> i would be more impressed by a coffee-consuming robot
05:10 < mareklug> pharos a garbage disposal qualifies. :)
05:10 < Pharos> it would have to consume the coffee usefully ;)
05:11 < mareklug> as if the patrons of coffeeshops did?
05:11 < iDM> I can't have coffee anyway, once in a month, not more.
05:12 < mareklug> Currently spinning  Teen Idle by Marina & the Diamonds from the album Electra Heart (Deluxe Edition)
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05:16 < iDM> 3 way chess is a bad bad idea.
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05:33 < Qcoder00> iDM: I'm sorry but I don't find jokes about  'absue' funny
05:34 < GorillaWarfare> Pharos: I am the coffee-consuming robot you speak of
05:34 < Qcoder00> There have been some rather high profile cases here in the UK recently , and I am not exactly happy about people joking about it
05:34 < Pharos> :)
05:35 < Qcoder00> Japan develops robots for many things...
05:36 < Qcoder00> partly because of their ageging population..
05:36  * Qcoder00 ponder how long it will be before parts of Jpan have 'care' bots..
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05:37 < Qcoder00> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2331367/Woolwich-murder-Thousands-Youtube-videos-urging-British-Muslims-maim-kill-seconds-online.html - Hmm Didn't take long
05:38 < Pharos> i think it's 90% culutural, tho
05:39 < Qcoder00> Who is more dangerous, the extremists or the politicans that want to censor their rants?
05:39 < Pharos> well, the non-industrial robots
05:40 < Pharos> i think they can both be a bit dangerous
05:40 < Qcoder00> Does the Daily Mail complain about Christian Extremist videos as well
05:40 < Qcoder00> I'm sure they exist...
05:41 < Pharos> this is why god created youtube
05:41 < Qcoder00> Does the Mail complain about the obviously pro-EDL videos that exist on YouTube?
05:41 < Qcoder00> (and yes they do exist, because I flagged one a couple of days agi)
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05:41 < Qcoder00> We don't need freedom of religion, we also need freedom from religion ;)
05:42 < Pharos> don't ask me, I live in the Land of the Free, and the Home of the Brave!
05:42 < Pharos> freedom of expression works, people!
05:42 < Qcoder00> And yet you have Fox News, Alex Jones, and Hawls :)
05:43 < Qcoder00> *Sarah Palin
05:43 < Pharos> we have everybody
05:43 < Pharos> that's the beauty of the thing
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05:45 < Pharos> fox news will not be successfully advocating a ban on muslim videos, i can guarantee you that
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05:46 < Pharos> i don't even know who Hawls is
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05:46 < Pharos> I figured out Alex Jones after awhile
05:47 < darev> Hello!
05:47 < Pharos> Howdy!
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05:56 < Qcoder00> Alex Jones  is  a 'talk radio'  personality
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06:01 < Pharos> ok, i actually don't know who he is
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06:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug can I be big bird?
06:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> damn it
06:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> had to scrol down again
06:02 < Pharos> ok, if you think his is a typical American voice, your view of my country is more than a little skewed :P
06:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos fox news will suceed
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06:03 < Pharos> fox news succeeds at getting ratings
06:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats not what I mean
06:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they will achieve what they want
06:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> fair and balanced news
06:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> once people realize how BS they are ;)
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06:06 < Pharos> I never heard of Alex Jones before, but I find it highly entertaining he had a role in the film of A Scanner Darkly
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06:06 < Pharos> (if wikipedia isn't lying to me)
06:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Alex Jones the anti-muslim pokemon
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06:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it blabers on fox news during the day. It can be found on route 666
06:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :p
06:08 < Pharos> Get your kicks on route 666
06:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no dissin mah route
06:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I got my uber magikarp there
06:09 < Jetro> MAgikarp?
06:09 < Jetro> cool
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06:12 < Technical_13> Anyone here?
06:12 < Pharos> yes
06:12 < Technical_13> !admin
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06:13 < Technical_13> Hello Pharos, I'm looking for someone who knows what wikipedia's settings are set at for rate limits.
06:13 < Technical_13> In particular, how many emails can be sent in what time frame?
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06:14 < Pharos> i'm afriad i don't know
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06:15 < Pharos> is there a particular reason you ask?
06:15 < Technical_13> Yeah, I'm trying to assist a user http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#Action_throttled
06:17 < Pharos> sometimes ppl need to learn to wait till tomorrow
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06:17 < tommorris> "You could request temporary Account Creator or Bot permissions to send the rest of your emails and any administrator or bureaucrat could grant that if you demonstrated to them a legitimate use."
06:17 < tommorris> Not going to happen.
06:17 < David_Stevenson> ToAruShiroiNeko: zing (PM)
06:17 < Pharos> is there any legit reason for sending out a million emails in one day?
06:18 < Pharos> perhaps this person doesn't fully understand user talkn pages
06:18 < GorillaWarfare> Technical_13: Please quit it with the admin stalkword.
06:18 < Technical_13> It technically "could" happen if you could find a sympathetic admin or if they were emails being sent out as part of a wikiproject and the admin was involved with said wikiproject and understood the reason.
06:20 < Pharos> ok, obviously she knows about talkpages
06:20 < tommorris> Technical_13: if you find me an admin willing to hand that out, I'd be happy to argue for them to be desysopped ;)
06:21 < GorillaWarfare> :D
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06:22 < Technical_13> Config is in operations/mediawiki-config.git
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06:23 < GorillaWarfare> Technical_13: ?
06:23 < Technical_13> The answer to my question is 20 per day for users.
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06:24 < GorillaWarfare> iDM: Lose an ear?
06:24 < iDM> Nay. My poor hair :(
06:25 < iDM> I feel bald.
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06:49 < Theo10011> cu 2
06:49 < Fluffernutter> too much cing
06:49 < hawkzyyang> 8-)
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08:04 < iDM> Iran Candidate Jalili Says Women’s Rights Are as Mothers
08:04 < legoktm> Fluffernutter: ping
08:04 < iDM> Pong
08:04 < Fluffernutter> legoktm, pong
08:04 < iDM> legoktm, you never ping me :(
08:04 < legoktm> o/
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08:05 < legoktm> [08:05:04 AM] -iDM CTCP- PING (0.48375 sec)
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08:05 < iDM> * Received a CTCP PING 1369926303.963778 from legoktm
08:05 < iDM> Aww cute.
08:05 < iDM> Anyway, back to my trolling/work.
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08:06 < iDM> Dude, I have a really messed up system at the moment, slows my speed.
08:06 < Jetro> :O
08:07 < iDM> |MODEM|-|Firewall|-|proxy server|-|WiFi/Firewal|-|ME|
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08:07 < TheDruId> Upgrade, loose capabilities. Perfect.
08:07 < iDM> Hey wctaiwan
08:07 < iDM> Jetro, * Received a CTCP PING 1369933595 from Jetro
08:07 < Jetro> [17:06:40] > CTCP reply PING 477 ms from iDM
08:07 < Jetro> >(
08:08 < wctaiwan> hi iDM
08:08 < iDM> Should I giggle at that?
08:08 < iDM> Sup TheDruId
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08:09 < iDM> Jetro, legoktm got the same thing almost :)
08:09 < TheDruId> iDM, Howdy.
08:09 < iDM> Define howdy.
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08:09 < iDM> Namaste kondi..
08:11 < iDM> TheDruId, I am fascinated by the way Iranian Govt. is pushing the country backward :) "Iran Candidate Jalili Says Women’s Rights Are as Mothers
08:11 < iDM> "
08:11 < TheDruId> iDM, a gentle nod of greeting, works better for me than an online version of "I should kill you where you stand!"
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08:12 < iDM> TheDruId, How sweet.
08:12 < kondi> zz_YuviPanda: Kitna soyega?
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08:12 < iDM> kondi, bara ganta
08:12 < iDM> poora din
08:13 < AzaToth> Have update Twinkle now (splitted it up into 23 files), so now the new WP:AN3 reporting functionality should work
08:13 < iDM> tere ko kia masala he :P
08:13 < kondi> iDM: lekin ye YuviPanda bara se bhi zyada ghante se so raha hai
08:13 < iDM> True... lets keep it English my urdu sucks anyway
08:13 < kondi> iDM: kia masala he? lol That must be Pakistani slang
08:14 < iDM> yes
08:14 < Theo10011> punjabi slang
08:14 < Theo10011> and it's masla
08:14 < Theo10011> not masala
08:14 < iDM> It's a Pakistani slang, nothing to do with Punjabi.
08:14 < Theo10011> k
08:14 < kondi> I can only partially understand urdu
08:14  * iDM duct tapes Theo10011 stick to your own side of border (JK).
08:15 < Theo10011> heh
08:15 < Theo10011> kondi, hindi and urdu are interchangeable for the most part.
08:15 < iDM> Independence was a really bad idea.
08:15 < kondi> Theo10011: well I know that, also know some of the distinct words
08:16 < iDM> Urdu cotains Farsi, Turkish, and Arabic as well.
08:16 < kondi> s/Independence/Partition
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08:16 < Theo10011> Well, both have a strong propensity for being too thick, you can get really hard with both and make the other seem alien.
08:16 < Theo10011> the middle ground is large though, between the two.
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08:17 < kondi> yes. Also people don't seem to care
08:17 < Theo10011> AzaToth, Thanks.
08:17 < Theo10011> true.
08:17 < iDM> Anyway, I am sick of politics, and I am gonna go buy some Oreos.
08:17 < Theo10011> I'm hungry.
08:17 < AzaToth> anyone here active on WP:AN3?
08:18 < Theo10011> Not that I know of, currently.
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08:19 < AzaToth> have only tested it like a software programmer would test it, i.e. it works™
08:19 < iDM> Anyway, bye bye Oreos calling.
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08:20 < TheDruId> <green> Oreos.
08:20 < Theo10011> AzaToth, no debugging you mean.
08:20 < Technical_13> AzaToth: what are you testing?
08:20 < AzaToth> I meant that I made it work posting to a test page
08:21 < AzaToth> Technical_13: Twinkle new module for WP:AN3
08:22 < AzaToth> Theo10011: but I've not tested user interaction, correctess of the result and funny things
08:22 < AzaToth> and most important, the help texts and strings might need to be better
08:22 < Theo10011> funny things are always ambiguous. ;)
08:22 < Technical_13> I thought there was a request from the MWF to stop adding to Twinkle as it has reached a size the MW can't handle?
08:23 < AzaToth> Technical_13: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AzaToth
08:23 < AzaToth> I splitted it up
08:24 < Technical_13> I see, so it was a page size restriction and not a loading too much into the browser at the page level problem?
08:24  * legoktm huggles AzaToth 
08:25  * Theo10011 averts his eyes
08:25 < AzaToth> Technical_13: theres a memory bug in jsminmax.php
08:25 < AzaToth> Technical_13: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29784
08:25 < AzaToth> legoktm: I'm not using huggle
08:25 < AzaToth> :-P
08:25 < legoktm> :P
08:26  * TheDruId has never used Huggle.
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08:28 < AzaToth> Theo10011: could you test it on me?
08:28 < Theo10011> ?
08:28 < AzaToth> the new AN3 func
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08:30 < Theo10011> Ah, I'm sorry AzaToth, I can't right now. I'm in the middle of something (still at work), my browser is completely loaded.
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08:30 < AzaToth> k
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08:30 < AzaToth> anyone else?
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08:31 < Theo10011> Cmon help out! legoktm, idm, TheDruId - I'm looking at you!
08:31  * AzaToth too
08:31 < legoktm> ohai
08:32 < legoktm> sure what do i need to do?
08:32 < AzaToth> made some test edits to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AzaToth/sandbox
08:32 < AzaToth> legoktm: correctly report me to AN3 using the new module
08:32 < Technical_13> I'd be happy to test it for you as well.
08:33 < AzaToth> yea
08:33 < legoktm> woah
08:33 < legoktm> it picks out the diffs
08:33 < legoktm> nice
08:33 < legoktm> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:AzaToth_reported_by_User:Legoktm_.28Result:_.29
08:35 < Technical_13> Interesting... It doesn't give any information when I click load (I used the full URL to the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AzaToth/sandbox)...  I would think it would know to truncate the front or throw an error message...
08:36 < legoktm> Technical_13: twinkle never validates input. you can create an article that starts with "http://.……"
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08:37 < AzaToth> Technical_13: it's only the title there
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08:38 < Technical_13> AzaToth: I get that, but I'm not sure that everyone will.  Some might just try to copy a URL from their location bar...
08:38 < AzaToth> legoktm: it will also draw the diffs for the warnings and resolutions
08:38 < AzaToth> Technical_13: true
08:38 < AzaToth> I think I could fix that
08:39 < AzaToth> legoktm: but you need to warn me and make a comment on the talk page for that ツ
08:39 < AzaToth> which I assume is the correct behavour
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08:40 < Technical_13> I warned you, but did not make a comment...
08:41 < Technical_13> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=next&oldid=557533257
08:42 < AzaToth> Technical_13: seems correct for me
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08:46 < Technical_13> Okay, so I made a comment and it is showing up as Indications of warnings given to subject instead of Resolution initiatives
08:46 < AzaToth> Technical_13: I assumed resolution initiatives should be on the talk page of the article
08:47 < AzaToth> though nopw I realize it won't work on non-mainspace pages
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08:47 < Technical_13> ass u me --- Okay, will try there.
08:47 < Technical_13> Oh, okay.. I'll let you think about it then..
08:48 < Technical_13> I would think that indication of warnings would be looking for edits that include warning templates and resolution initiatives would be sections having something to do with the name of the article...
08:49 < Technical_13> that, incidently don't have warning templates... Although I could also see a discussion spawning directly from the warning template itself in the same section...
08:49 < AzaToth> Technical_13: it only lists your contributions for warnings and resolution indications
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08:51 < Technical_13> How's it going Jorm (WMF)?
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08:51 < Technical_13> lol that well it seems.
08:52 < AzaToth> hehe
08:53 < TheDruId> TBH, xe may not have had time to notice...
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08:54 < AzaToth> now I just need to find a real edit warrior to report...
08:54 < jorm> gah, stupid irc.
08:54 < kondi> #mediawiki sucks
08:54 < AzaToth> <Technical_13> How's it going Jorm (WMF)?
08:54 < AzaToth> <Technical_13> lol that well it seems.
08:54 < jorm> i agree completely, kondi
08:54 < jorm> and it's too early for m.
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08:55 < AzaToth> jorm: I notice you reconnect often
08:55 < AzaToth> and that you are not using server password ヾ
08:55 < jorm> just this morning, i think.
08:55 < kondi> :)
08:55 < Theo10011> AzaToth, no one uses the server password from the staff it seems.
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08:55 < jorm> normally my connection is stable except when i'm in transit between home and office.
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08:55 < Theo10011> All their IPs are visible most times
08:55 < AzaToth> Theo10011: I notice
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08:56 < Technical_13> Stupid IRC!
08:56 < Technical_13> Amen!
08:56 < AzaToth> 216.38.130.168 is WMF I see
08:56 < Theo10011> Yup.
08:56 < Theo10011> It's not even dynamic most times.
08:56 < QueenOfFrance> Technical_13: I don't quite follow as to why IRC is stupposed to be stupid
08:57 < AzaToth> QueenOfFrance: it doesn't have facebook
08:57 < QueenOfFrance> AzaToth: that would make it smart, not stupid :P
08:57  * wctaiwan slaps AzaToth's face with a book
08:57 < Technical_13> lol
08:57 < AzaToth> ツ
08:57  * Technical_13 slaps AzaToth in the face with a green trout!
08:57  * AzaToth doens't use facebook
08:58 < Theo10011> Too much violence for my sensitive eyes.
08:58 < AzaToth> green trout you say?
08:58  * Technical_13 has declared FaceBook the ONLY reliable source to use for articles on Wikipedia!
08:58  * TheDruId has never used FaceBook.
08:58  * Technical_13 has realized he has gone insane and eats that green trout...
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09:00 < Technical_13> So, what causes that javascript popup box everytime I have a new message on my talk page?
09:00 < Technical_13> Is that a part of Echo?
09:00 < Technical_13> or... ummm "Notifications"
09:00 < AzaToth> dunno
09:00 < AzaToth> I don't get any popup boxes
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09:01 < Theo10011> I wonder who that could be^
09:01 < AzaToth> hehe
09:01 < TheDruId> Technical_13, the insane /never/ realise they're insane...
09:01 < AzaToth> bharris: got booted again?
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09:02 < bharris> no, dropped to wireless for a meeting.
09:02 < AzaToth> k
09:02 < Theo10011> Drop it like it's hot!
09:02 < Technical_13> Ahh, then you may have missed my question...
09:02 < Technical_13> bharris: What causes that javascript popup box everytime I have a new message on my talk page? Is that part of Echo errm.. Notifications?
09:03 < bharris> yeah, that's echo.
09:03 < Technical_13> Well, it is broken! lol
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09:03 < Technical_13> But, at least I know what extension to bugzilla report..
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09:06 < a930913> And there a vandal was, thinking they could vandalise my user page :p https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:A930913
09:07 < TheDruId> a930913, it a appears an honest mistake meant for your talk page.
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09:08 < GorillaWarfare> Heh, I just noticed that the iPad prints the little raised bumps on its on-screen keyboard. That seems silly.
09:08 < a930913> TheDruId: No, they hit my talk page too :p
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09:08 < TheDruId> ...but the user page first.
09:09 < Theo10011> GorillaWarfare, the keyboard has that to undock it, if you press it long enough.
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09:09 < Theo10011> (in case you didnt notice)
09:09 < a930913> TheDruId: I just reverted their vandalism. That's the same stuff they're spamming everywhere.
09:09 < GorillaWarfare> Theo10011: Wha?
09:10 < TheDruId> Yeah, could Hasan Ertik be a name?
09:10 < Theo10011> Press that a bit, you'll get option to split and undock keyboard.
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09:10 < GorillaWarfare> Theo10011: No, I mean the bumps that are on normal keyboards' F and J keys, to help you find the right hand placement
09:10 < Theo10011> ohh
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09:10 < GorillaWarfare> Sorry, I was pretty vague, haha
09:10 < Theo10011> Ya that seems stupid.
09:10 < GorillaWarfare> It does indeed
09:10 < iDM> Theo is high on pepsi and .... dot dot
09:10 < Theo10011> maybe they have something planned for later iteration
09:10 < Theo10011> iDM, shhh
09:11 < a930913> TheDruId: Possibly. Looking for fame? Check the contributions.
09:11 < iDM> Say the magic word.
09:11 < Theo10011> wonder if they can ever do reflexive LCD surfaces.....
09:11  * iDM eats his cookies
09:12 < TheDruId> 'Some keyboards have a small bump on certain keys of the home row. This helps returning the fingers to the home row for touch typing.' from [[Home row]]
09:12 < Theo10011> I read they can make bumps in some new research with an overlay layer for the keyboard.
09:12  * a930913 hands iDM a tracking cookie.
09:13 < Jetro> nostalgia tiem
09:13 < Jetro> http://beranger.org/archive/anyone-remembering-windows-entertainment-pack.htm
09:13 < iDM> Asus still selling the keyboard with intel atom and small lcd on it.. which has Windows
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09:13 < iDM> Or not ?
09:13 < Theo10011> heh win 3.1 was fun
09:13 < Jetro> Yeah
09:13 < Jetro> I got hit by nostalgia
09:14 < Jetro> I mean I remember it, but seeing that little Chess icon.. <3
09:14 < Jetro> Or Chips was another fav
09:14 < Theo10011> I remember those DOS games, which seemed cooler than anything on windows.
09:14 < Jetro> or SkiFree if I wanted to become scared :|
09:14 < iDM> I still have a pentium with windows 98
09:14 < Jetro> yes
09:14 < Jetro> :o
09:14 < Jetro> I think we still ahve a computer from 89 with 3.1 on it
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09:14 < Jetro> And with the B:\ floppy floppydisk
09:14 < iDM> Last time I played curse of monkey island on it
09:14 < Jetro> One wonders why Windows still doesn't use the letters A and B nowadays
09:15 < QueenOfFrance> because people still have floppies?
09:15 < Jetro> what
09:15 < Jetro> But nobody has those floppy floppys
09:15 < Jetro> surely
09:15 < Theo10011> A:\ ?
09:15 < Jetro> B:\
09:15 < QueenOfFrance> I have a floppy drive on my desktop xD
09:15 < iDM> I'd do anything to go back in time and play Simon
09:15 < iDM> I have 3.5 ones
09:15 < Jetro> But I was also thinking of A yes
09:15 < Theo10011> those giant ones with prince of persia?
09:15  * TheDruId eats the tracking cookie. Mmn. No calories.
09:15 < Jetro> who uses them?
09:16 < Jetro> o.O
09:16 < iDM> A
09:16 < QueenOfFrance> I think I once used linux from a floppy
09:16 < Jetro> I mean, USB sticks
09:16 < iDM> On my phone have to use abbreviations
09:16 < Jetro> or INTERNETS
09:16 < QueenOfFrance> Jetro: not-entirely-modern-pcs can't boot from usb sticks
09:16 < iDM> QueenOfFrance tried puppy Linux?
09:16 < Jetro> but compies are so cheap
09:16 < Jetro> why do we have poor countries
09:16 < QueenOfFrance> iDM: that doesn't fit in a floppy, iirc
09:16 < a930913> I use floppy disks to hand it coursework when they demand hard copies.
09:16 < iDM> I know
09:17 < QueenOfFrance> iDM: I used puppy but like 5 years ago or more
09:17 < QueenOfFrance> prolly more like 7
09:17 < iDM> I m back on fedora
09:17 < QueenOfFrance> I'm back on Wirus 7
09:18 < Theo10011> I found a bootable version of knoppix at 8 mb
09:18 < Theo10011> from a usb stick
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09:18 < QueenOfFrance> Theo10011: there's one russian linux that fits in a floppy
09:18 < Jetro> Oh, a930913, good point, but "they" are stupid
09:18 < Theo10011> QueenOfFrance, but this one had advanced media features, it could play Dvds and music.
09:18 < iDM> Brb making myself cold coco moo. That's cold chocolate shake.
09:19 < QueenOfFrance> Theo10011: it would still be useless because if you're not on a floppy, the lowest you will get is 128MB
09:19 < QueenOfFrance> for one of those really old usb sticks
09:19 < Jetro> iDM: Sounds delicious
09:19 < QueenOfFrance> It does remind me of old pirated games tho
09:19 < Theo10011> heh
09:19 < QueenOfFrance> back when CLASS still existed
09:19 < Technical_13> I still have floppies..
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09:20 < Technical_13> King's Quest anyone?
09:20 < Jetro> Back when it was DECENCY
09:20 < iDM> I am the cookie monster.
09:20 < Jetro> I remember Sony Police Quest or summet like that
09:20 < QueenOfFrance> Jetro: I meant CLASS as in [[Class (warez)]]
09:20  * a930913 locks iDM in a nutter's asylum.
09:20 < Technical_13> Police Quest and Space Quest were spin-offs of King's Quest and they were all by Sierra.
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09:20 < Jetro> oh
09:21 < Jetro> Awesome!
09:21 < Jetro> I remember Sony
09:21 < Technical_13> ;)
09:21 < Jetro> walking nude from the showers
09:21 < Jetro> and you lost
09:21 < iDM> I have a 150 page recipe to make cookies or anything associated with chocolates and pie etc basically desserts and food with cookies and pie
09:21 < Jetro> :(
09:21 < iDM> Perverted game was Larry
09:22 < Jetro> So I've heard
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09:22 < iDM> Theo still plays it.
09:24 < iDM> Jetro never go fishing with a Greek guy alone.
09:25 < Jetro> Sound advice
09:25 < Jetro> although it seems tempting
09:25 < Jetro> *romantic
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09:27 < Technical_13> Lemmings anyone?
09:28 < Technical_13> I'm surprised there actually isn't a lemmings app on my new Android smartphone.. :(  I might have to make one...
09:28 < TheDruId> Taste great.
09:28 < Jetro> I just remember Lomax
09:28 < Jetro> That had something to do with Lemmings apparently
09:28 < iDM> It is.
09:28 < iDM> Unless you like guys go for it.
09:28 < iDM> Back to something productive
09:28 < TheDruId> Showoff. :D
09:28  * iDM puts on barber of Seville and goes afk
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09:33 < Bsadowski1> http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/05/29/wooly-mammoth-blood-recovered-from-frozen-carcass-russian-scientists-say/
09:33 < Bsadowski1> :o
09:33 < Bsadowski1> neat
09:34 < geniice> As much as $30bn (£20bn) has been stolen in preparations for next year's Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russian opposition leaders say.
09:34 < TheDruId> Might just be leftover ketchup.
09:34 < geniice> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22720228
09:34 < geniice> neat
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09:35 < geniice> Bsadowski1 Also getting your science news from fox? Bad choice mate
09:35 < Bsadowski1> sorry!
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09:35 < Bsadowski1> xd
09:35 < iDM> Yay laptop way better than my stupid Samsung phon
09:35 < iDM> e
09:35 < Bsadowski1> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2332787/Woolly-mammoths-brought-extinction-scientists-discover-blood-muscle-tissue-buried-ice-tomb-10-000-years.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
09:38 < geniice> Bsadowski1 linking to the daily mail? How much is your house worth?
09:40 < Koi> Bsadowski1: hi
09:40 < Koi> Bsadowski1: how r u :#
09:41 < iDM> geniice, tigerdirect.ca is blocked in Pakistan, considered to be a adult website.
09:41 < geniice> iDM	 context?
09:42 < iDM> geniice, It's a shopping website. For electronics etc.
09:42 < iDM> Not a single adult related products.
09:42 < geniice> yes why are you telling me this?
09:43 < iDM> Because, should I put it on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TigerDirect
09:43 < iDM> Add a section blocked in Pakistan by PTA, or let it be.
09:43 < Philon> Is there any admin willing to block https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nataliecpr
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09:44 < iDM> geniice, Basically I need your opinion if I should add it there or in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Pakistan
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09:45 < geniice> I'm afraid its not an issue I know enough about to venture an opinion
09:45 < iDM> Okay :(
09:45 < wctaiwan> iDM: has it received widesperad coverage?
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09:46 < iDM> wctaiwan, Oh yeah. I am putting it for now under Banned websites [edit]
09:46 < iDM>  
09:46 < wctaiwan> man, that's OR..
09:46 < wctaiwan> if sources don't care about it, we shouldn't either.
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09:47 < iDM> Ok, but apparently idiots on PTA read Wikipedia, and check the banned websites section, wish I could have recorded the conversation I had with someone working there.
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09:48 < wctaiwan> wrong venue.
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09:48 < LAmpersandEnRose> ugh. who can I stab for whatever's wrong with bits or something?
09:49 < iDM> meh
09:49 < wctaiwan> LAmpersandEnRose: notify -tech?
09:49 < wctaiwan> seems to be fine for me right now
09:50 < LAmpersandEnRose> it's been happening for like 12 hours, and has been brought up at VPT, so I'm sure they know
09:50 < LAmpersandEnRose> like, basically anything using JS is failing randomly
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09:50 < LAmpersandEnRose> last time this happened it was a bits problem.
09:52 < wctaiwan> probably.
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10:01 < iDM> Was it Liszt or Schubert who had the unfinished symphony ?
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10:04 < TheDruId> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unfinished_Symphony&redirect=no
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10:05 < iDM> It's not what I'm really looking for
10:05 < iDM> Wasnt No 8.
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10:06 < iDM> Apparently, Chopin had one too.
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10:10 < iDM> hey kondi nano tata
10:10 < iDM> Cherry is out no?
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10:11 < kondi> iDM: hm?
10:11 < iDM> kondicherry
10:11 < iDM> sounds like a car
10:14 < iDM> Sorry kondi, I have multiple things going in my head from Cars to powedered milk.
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10:19 < kondi> heh
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10:20 < ajf> Oh god
10:20 < ajf> "reader comments"
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10:25 < iDM> kondi, I have a proposal.
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10:25 < kondi> iDM: what kind of proposal?
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10:26 < iDM> I'll be back officially on Wikipedia instead of editing anonymously, if you feed me a cookie daily for 365 days.
10:26 < kondi> I don't even feed myself a cookie daily :P
10:27 < wctaiwan> kondi: but you aren't fat
10:27  * wctaiwan ducks
10:27 < iDM> Okay then :D My offer stands for anyone.
10:27  * kondi looks at suspiciously
10:27 < wctaiwan> kondi: was ducking from iDM, not you :P
10:28 < iDM> Duck, duck, goose.
10:28 < wctaiwan> duckduckgo.
10:28 < kondi> :|
10:30 < iDM> kondi, do you have this in India > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Akbar_Mashti.JPG
10:30 < kondi> iDM: haven't seen them so far
10:31 < iDM> Do you think it would sell there?
10:31 < iDM> It's a bit similar to koolfi/kulfi/kolfi however you pronounce it.
10:31 < kondi> they look yummy. In my state, anything sweet will fly!
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10:32 < iDM> Sounds like a business idea
10:32 < kondi> yeah, come over here. we'll do bijhness
10:32 < iDM> nehi sounds too X-rated
10:33 < kondi> hehe
10:33 < kondi> okay I'll have to go afk now
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10:35 < ajf> "reader comments" is a bad idea
10:35 < ajf> :/
10:35 < wctaiwan> ajf: where?
10:35 < ajf> I don't think any of the ones on the Russia article were objectively useful
10:35 < ajf> "too many references"
10:35 < wctaiwan> Article Feedback Tool is generally unobtrusive
10:35 < ajf> (hello, welcome to wikipedia)
10:35 < wctaiwan> and yes, the feedback sometimes suck
10:36 < ajf> "Russia!"
10:36 < ajf> (ok???)
10:36 < wctaiwan> the ones on Taiwan are frequently comments angrily declaring Taiwan is / is not part of China.
10:36 < ajf> "needs info on what they eat"
10:36 < ajf> (look at the Cuisine section?)
10:36 < ajf> wctaiwan: heh
10:37 < ajf> I found it interesting that the ICAO refers to the Taiwan country code as for "Taiwan, Provice of China"
10:37 < ajf> *Province
10:37 < wctaiwan> most UN organisations do.
10:37 < ajf> yeah
10:37 < ajf> they're not in the general assembly but for practical reasons they're in other UN organisations, right?
10:38 < wctaiwan> not most of them, afaik.
10:38 < ajf> hmm
10:38 < ajf> or at least represented by the mainland?
10:38 < wctaiwan> ICAO yes, not WHO.
10:38 < wctaiwan> har.
10:38 < ajf> ah
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10:39 < wctaiwan> (basically, no. They say they represent us, but they have no actual jurisdiction. We wouldn't ask them to do anything or accept anything from them anyway…)
10:39 < ajf> right
10:40 < ajf> what's irritating is a lot of these comments show that people: 1) haven't even attempted to read the article, or 2) have not noticed this is feedback on the article, not Wikipedia itself
10:41 < ajf> "The words are too small,which are not easy for us to read. Maybe it is better for you to enlarge them." "put information about russia economics and government" (it has) "tourist places in russia..." (wikivoyage?)
10:41 < ajf> "TO MUCH INFO"
10:41 < ajf> "This article is very bad" (that's not a suggestion for improvement)
10:42 < ajf> wctaiwan: oh man, I like this one on the Taiwan article: "Taiwan has it's own Government. It is not part of ROC. Get your facts straight"
10:42 < ajf> :D
10:42 < wctaiwan> ajf: meh.
10:48 < iDM> meh is my word. so is yawning, and cookies.
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10:51 < TheDruId> I prefer 'Mu'.
10:51 < iDM> My birthday coming up, I feel old.
10:53 < TheDruId> I still feel young, until I look at lists of movies, etc., that are now 10, 15, 20, 25 years old...
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11:03 < iDM> TheDruId, I was watching the great escape last night
11:03 < iDM> and my fair lady tonight
11:05 < TheDruId> iDM, I've seen both, though I don't remember My Fair Lady well.
11:05 < iDM> So have I, I like to watch them over and over. I am planning Midway and A Bridge Too Far for next week
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11:07 < iDM> Closedmouth recommended, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_(TV_series) so I am buying it tomorrow.
11:07 < TheDruId> I think the most recent hit movie I watch may have been Avatar, rented for nephew.
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11:09 < Tyler> ;/nickserv info adium
11:09 < iDM> Fail
11:09 < Tyler> Fail :(
11:10 < Tyler> [11:09] -NickServ- Last failed attempt from: tyler!~Adium@121-153.champlain.edu on May 30 12:14:44 2013.
11:10 < iDM> TheDruId, I am too scared to watch that.
11:10 < Tyler> fail
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11:13 < TheDruId> Religion topples industry, in a feel good touchy feely way, with insulting implausibly humanocentric foreign language
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11:14 < darev> Hello again!
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11:15 < iDM> Oh noes
11:15 < TheDruId> o/
11:16 < iDM> Stupid laptop, have to punch it for the screen to come back on
11:17 < LAmpersandEnRose> http://www.theonion.com/articles/19-tweets-from-the-audubon-societybarack-obama-twi,32625/
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11:24 < iDM> I am sleepy
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11:27 < iDM> TheDruId, could you ping me, if the lag shows 0.47+ its normal :P
11:27 < TheDruId> iDM, ...I don't know what that means...:/
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11:51 < iDM> Hey Qcoder00
11:51 < Qcoder00> Hello
11:52 < iDM> Qcoder00, Need your opinion, suppose there is a scenario, "Something gone wrong, and you get to hear a long long explanation for the cause, and solution" does that generally mean it's really that bad?
11:52 < Qcoder00> Not always
11:53 < iDM> Okay
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11:58 < iDM> Hello juliancolton
11:58 < juliancolton> hey
11:59 < Theo10011> oh lawd it's juliancolton
11:59 < Theo10011> I missed you!
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12:03 < juliancolton> I doubt that, but thanks for making me feel nice :)
12:03 < iDM> Well, am officialy out of Jameson, and Vin Santo.
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12:07 < kondi> iDM: don't talk about alcohol :\
12:08 < iDM> I just said I am out of it, end of discussion.
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12:08 < iDM> Hungover?
12:08 < kondi> heh. dry state. :\
12:09 < kondi> no alcohol legally unless you have a health permit...
12:09 < iDM> That doesn't make sense.
12:09 < kondi> why?
12:09 < iDM> Health Permit for alcohol?
12:09 < kondi> yeah
12:10 < iDM> So you can't have homeopathic medicine without permit?
12:10 < Pharos> that's not medicine ;)
12:11 < kondi> you can have that okay..
12:11 < Pharos> theoretically, it's not anything
12:11 < Theo10011> It's water
12:11 < iDM> Some of it contain 95% alcohol.
12:11 < elquanto> the democratic party of the US just told me that my membership was pending payment of $3, but I want to be independent. What should I ask them to change my membership status to?
12:11 < Theo10011> party!
12:12 < Pharos> um, i don't think you have to pay to be a democrat
12:12 < Pharos> elquanto: what state is this?
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12:12 < Pharos> and are you registered to vote?
12:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos sure you do, you have to pay attention
12:13 < elquanto> I'm in Shanghai at the moment, and have lived in two different states since 2010
12:13 < iDM> Hello BobTheWikipedian
12:13 < BobTheWikipedian> ping peter-c
12:13 < BobTheWikipedian> howdy idm
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12:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos see what I did there? :p
12:13 < elquanto> I am not registered to vote in China
12:13 < iDM>  You forgot the partner.
12:13 < Pharos> noone is!
12:13 < iDM> Howdy Partner in Jackie Chan accent.
12:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am not registered to vote in rwanda.
12:13 < elquanto> but presumably I could
12:14 < carniePOI> you need an account, asshat?
12:14 < Pharos> you are aware china isn't a deomcracy? :P
12:14 < iDM> Rwanda is hot.
12:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos sure they are, a single party democracy
12:14 < carniePOI> what's that charlotte?
12:14 < Pharos> you register to vote at the state level, and declare your party affiliation then
12:14 < carniePOI> huh?
12:14 < elquanto> however I am registered to vote absentee in my home state, but the person who gets my physical mail there might change my vote
12:14 < Theo10011> carniePOI, excuse me?
12:15 < Theo10011> what are you saying?
12:15 < Pharos> elquanto: registering and declaring affiliation costs nothing
12:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos for president of china :p
12:15 < carniePOI> I need more adderall, doc
12:15 < Pharos> if you want to make a donation to the party, that's a separate issue
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12:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos what would your first action be if you were president of china?
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12:15 < carniePOI> nuke japan
12:16 < elquanto> I should ask the Democratic Party to list me as "pending conversion from plutocracy"
12:16 < TBloemink> Hmm
12:16 < Pharos> end one child policy
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12:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> o hai TBloemink
12:16 < TBloemink> O hai there
12:16 < TBloemink> I'm thirsty
12:16 < Pharos> i'd get the soccer mom vote
12:16 < TBloemink> Let me handle this ban reason then get some soda
12:16 < iDM> TBloemink, recently lots of trolls are coming on here.
12:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos one child policy would limit them to one kid :p
12:17 < TBloemink> iDM, Hmm this is my first one in ages
12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> iDM one troll a day keeps the doctor away
12:17 < Pharos> elquanto: you don't have to pay anyone money to vote in the democratic primary
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12:17 < iDM> For some reason I mistake Dcoetzee with a Doctor.
12:17 < Pharos> unless tennessee is even more evil than i thought
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12:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos not even attention? :p
12:18 < Pharos> not treally, no
12:18  * ToAruShiroiNeko is tempted to legally change own name to "attention" and demand payment from random people
12:19 < Pharos> political parties in europe etc have membership fees
12:19 < Pharos> not so in the Land of the Free
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12:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos US has such fees too which elite rich pay
12:19 < elquanto> I have been trying to determine whether China or the US is more effectively small-d democratic. The new administration seems closer to Chinese public opinion than the Obama/McConnell/Bohner/scotus regime, by a huge quantity in terms of velocity I.e. how long it would take them to reach the democratic center
12:19 < Pharos> they make "onations"
12:20 < Pharos> *donations
12:20 < iDM> Oh my maman, brb
12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yeah "donations"
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12:20  * ToAruShiroiNeko donates Pharos one million dollars and gently asks not to pass laws interfering with own business ;)
12:21 < Pharos> elquanto: um, you know they don't even make a pretense of voting in Cina...
12:21 < elquanto> there are a different set of fundamental rights and responsibilities.
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12:21 < Pharos> one party state is more than a little incompatible with democracy
12:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> o hai Keegan
12:22 < Pharos> democracy doesn't mean "i like it"
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12:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos it is a bit like faceebook
12:22 < Pharos> democracy means the voters have a say
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12:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you have the "I like" button for voting in china
12:22 < Pharos> even if the vioters are stupid
12:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you dont have to vote ;)
12:23 < elquanto> any party opposed to the us senate is effectively illegal, powerless, or both, so all us parties have the preservation of the senate as a common cause, so they are unified in that send
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12:23 < elquanto> any Chinese citizen can vote with their wallet, cellphone, feet, and computer
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12:23 < elquanto> in that sense*
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12:24 < Pharos> um, voting by cellphone doesn't count
12:24 < Pharos> by that standard, anyone in saudi arabia can vote too
12:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos saudi arabia does have elections
12:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> women can kinda sorta vote as of this year I think
12:25 < Pharos> ok, saudi is more deomcratic than china!
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12:25 < elquanto> really? if you have a pothole and you buy a disposable cellphone and use it to call a pothole official and then post the audio if they don't want to fix the pothole, that doesn't count?
12:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> nothing says saudi arabia like being 100 years behind other countries in terms of civil liberties
12:25 < Pharos> that's complaining to an official, not voting...
12:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> elquanto depends if the pothole is sanctioned by the government
12:26 < Pharos> voting for the official, that would be democracy!
12:26 < Pharos> or voting for the government that hires the officials
12:26 < elquanto> posting a record I g of a conversation is complaining? You know who also liked to make fun of King George? Ben Franklin and Tom Jefferson
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12:27 < elquanto> recording*
12:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> elquanto Ben Franklin sucked as a youtuber
12:27 < Pharos> um...
12:27 < Pharos> there's nothung wrong with complaining
12:27 < Pharos> i'm all for iit
12:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Jefferson boycotted youtube
12:27 < Pharos> but it's not a substitute for democracy
12:28 < Pharos> i complain all the time
12:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> democracy on its own isnt that important, people tend to associate civil liberties with it which I think isnt the same thing
12:28 < Pharos> well, personally i'm for liberal democracy
12:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you have to have civil liberties first for democracy to work
12:28 < elquanto> Actually, Aaron Burr boycotted Hamiltonvision
12:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> otherwise syria is a democracy
12:29 < Pharos> and i think in the long un you have to have democracy for civil liberties to work
12:29 < Pharos> *long run
12:30 < Pharos> Aaron Burr was a traitorous scoundrel who tried to make himself the Napoleon of Louisiana
12:31 < Pharos> Hamilton is the best founding father
12:31 < Pharos> he's the only one who wasn't a damned aristocrat
12:31 < elquanto> there are civil liberties here that don't exist in the us. for example individual judgment is preferred to strict adherence to the letter of law
12:32 < Pharos> and he actually saw that cities might be a good thing
12:32 < BobTheWikipedian> anyone know about oas?
12:32 < Pharos> sort of!
12:32 < iDM> lkinda
12:33 < BobTheWikipedian> i have it :P
12:33 < elquanto> the paramount importance of individual judgment is codified by vague laws
12:33 < iDM> Oracle Application Server
12:33 < BobTheWikipedian> and i had a salad for lunch
12:33 < BobTheWikipedian> lol other oas
12:33 < iDM> Then no
12:33 < Pharos> there is a virtue to government by laws, not the whims of the rulers
12:34 < Pharos> Organization of American States?
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12:35 < elquanto> true, but I'm not so sure that virtue has been tended well in, e.g., local us police who act in heat and haste as judge, jury, and executioners when suspects run from them
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12:36 < iDM> Well good night
12:36 < BobTheWikipedian> no pharos
12:36 < BobTheWikipedian> oral allergy syndrome
12:36 < Pharos> also, the rightwing French paramilitary group
12:36 < Pharos> Organization Armee Secrete
12:36 < iDM> BobTheWikipedian, I have it then.
12:36 < BobTheWikipedian> where your mouth doesn't know what's an allergen and what isn't
12:36 < iDM> BobTheWikipedian, Lemons, Garlic, Tomatoes...
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12:38 < iDM> Pepper, and spicy food, and some spicey which irritate the stomach.
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12:38 < BobTheWikipedian> man glad i don't have the garlic one :D
12:38 < Pharos> also Alexander Hamilton was a better rapper than Burr
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12:38 < iDM> Lewis Hamilton F1
12:39 < BobTheWikipedian> i have the apples pears peaches plums bananas strawberries grapes cantaloupes melons potatoes lettuce tomatoes version
12:39 < Pharos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNFf7nMIGnE
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12:39 < Pharos> watch that!
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12:40 < BobTheWikipedian> hey, that's my ip
12:41 < BobTheWikipedian> so yeah. idm you ever get the lump in your throat from it?
12:42 < mareklug> what nick are you hiding under, Soap?  are you here?
12:42 < iDM> And more
12:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug soap hides dirty laundry
12:42 < iDM> BobTheWikipedian, I have acid reflux too.
12:42 < BobTheWikipedian> know any remedies for the lump? i had a salad for lunch and have had the lump now for like 3 hours
12:42 < BobTheWikipedian> yeah me too
12:42 < iDM> BobTheWikipedian, And IBS
12:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BobTheWikipedian lump on the salad?
12:43 < BobTheWikipedian> among other unpleasant things
12:43 < BobTheWikipedian> lol neko
12:43 < iDM> neko is a jew I think
12:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if it isnt on the salad dont be too worried :p
12:43 < elquanto> Burr was the worst parliamentarian ever
12:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> iDM I am not employed, so no :p
12:43 < BobTheWikipedian> no neko, a lump that is in my throat...makes it hard to swallow or burp
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12:43 < iDM> ToAruShiroiNeko, Oh move to Canada, I am sure my Israeili friend can find you something.
12:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I use Kanka for minor mouth injuries
12:44 < iDM> Anyway, Good Night.
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12:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BobTheWikipedian I'd go to a doctor to be honestr
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12:44 < BobTheWikipedian> night idm
12:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> iDM night
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12:44 < yeboot> Hey!  What do you do if someone's been going through all the articles they look at and changing the spelling to british or american versions
12:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yeboot not panic
12:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ANI?
12:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> depends on the article mind you
12:45 < yeboot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/91.85.37.64
12:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> british topics are fine to have british spelling
12:45 < yeboot> It's every article they've been looking at, seems like.
12:46 < yeboot> even such pretentious changes as modeling->modelling
12:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> then they arent looking hard enough
12:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> only that many? :p
12:46 < BobTheWikipedian> if it is the article on the word "somewhat", and they are changing it to british, that's quite proper
12:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> to be honest its not worth the effort IMHO yeboot
12:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its an IP he can get a new one with ease probably
12:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you could explain it to him perhaps?
12:47 < BobTheWikipedian> if it is the article on the word "something", and they are changing it to american, that's good
12:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> what if the edit achieves both at the same time?
12:47 < yeboot> all their changes are purely AE->BE
12:47 < BobTheWikipedian> neko you mean they write like this:
12:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Belt_armor&diff=prev&oldid=557525721
12:48 -!- nas is now known as zz_nas
12:48 < BobTheWikipedian> the quick brown fox jumped ovre the lazy dawg
12:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ova
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12:48 < BobTheWikipedian> o'er
12:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ya
12:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> o'e
12:48 < BobTheWikipedian> o
12:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> just drop all letters
12:49 < BobTheWikipedian> the quick brown fox jumped the dawg
12:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> w ui o o ue oe e a a
12:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> *e ui o o ue oe e a a
12:50 < BobTheWikipedian> what about phoenician
12:50 < BobTheWikipedian> i mean roman
12:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am supposed to use ''s but I is lazy
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12:50 < mareklug> BobTheWikipedian turns out you CANNOT continue a line the oldfashioned unix way in /etc/hosts
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12:50 < mareklug> as in:  blah blah blah \
12:50 < mareklug> rest of line
12:50 < BobTheWikipedian> th qvck brwn fx jvmpd ovr th lzy dg
12:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no aaaa in uk english
12:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> aaa!
12:51 < Moe_Epsilon> ToAruShiroiNeko: zoot
12:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> o hai Moe_Epsilon
12:51 < legoktm> AzaToth: my twinkle is gone?
12:51 < BobTheWikipedian> aaa is a word?
12:51 < Moe_Epsilon> :p
12:51 < AzaToth> legoktm: rly?
12:51 < legoktm> ya
12:51 < AzaToth> wfm
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12:52 < legoktm> i just deleted a page manually o.O
12:52 < legoktm> hm
12:52 < legoktm> its back now
12:52 < legoktm> that was weird
12:52 < AzaToth> made major change it layout
12:52 < AzaToth> splitted it up on 23 files
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12:53 < AzaToth> legoktm: AN3 reporting works now
12:54 -!- zz_YuviPanda is now known as YuviPanda
12:54 < BobTheWikipedian> hey legoktm i have an idea
12:54 < legoktm> yeah i saw, glad that it works :D
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12:54 < legoktm> BobTheWikipedian: ooh what is it?
12:54 < BobTheWikipedian> i heard you cannot delete the main page
12:54 < BobTheWikipedian> try not deleting it :)
12:54 < legoktm> Me too!
12:54 < legoktm> heh
12:54 < BobTheWikipedian> i dare you!
12:55 < legoktm> I double dare you to!
12:55 < BobTheWikipedian> i already tried to not delete it
12:55 < BobTheWikipedian> you try now
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12:55 < AzaToth> I don't think you can delete the sandbox as well
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12:57 < legoktm> well the sandbox you need to be a stew to do
12:57 < legoktm> the main page you just need to be clever.
12:57 < legoktm> oh rats
12:57 < legoktm> This page's edit history exceeds 5,000 revisions. To prevent accidental disruption, its deletion is restricted to stewards. Please contact one for assistance.
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12:58 < legoktm> but
12:58 < legoktm> Total number of edits	4,127
12:58 < BobTheWikipedian> :o
12:58 < legoktm> hmmmm
12:58  * BobTheWikipedian bans legoktm for attempting to delete WP:SANDBOX
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12:59 < legoktm> actually that was the main page lol :P
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13:13 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian
13:13 < yeboot> Peter-C
13:13 < Peter-C> yeboot
13:14  * yeboot Peter-C 
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13:16 < BobTheWikipedian> yo
13:16 < BobTheWikipedian> peter-c you are a doctor right?
13:16 < BobTheWikipedian> neko told me to talk to one
13:16 < Peter-C> EMT
13:16 < BobTheWikipedian> good enough
13:16 < Peter-C> What's the prob? Feel free to PM.
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13:17 < BobTheWikipedian> oas + salad = lump for 3 hours now. any remedy?
13:17 < Theo10011> well, I have this rash....
13:17 < Theo10011> :P
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13:22  * BobTheWikipedian allows peter-c some time to do the triple-bypass heart transplant before answering that
13:22 < Peter-C> woops
13:23 < Peter-C> sorry
13:23 < Peter-C> Got distracted
13:23 < Peter-C> oas?
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13:23 < BobTheWikipedian> haha
13:23 < BobTheWikipedian> oral allergy syndrome
13:24 < Peter-C> Try benadryl
13:24 < BobTheWikipedian> do not get distracted, someone could die in your profession!
13:24 < BobTheWikipedian> lol
13:24 < Peter-C> Can you swallow
13:24 < BobTheWikipedian> sorta but not well
13:24 < Theo10011> hehehe
13:24 < BobTheWikipedian> and do not forget about theo's rash
13:25 < BobTheWikipedian> thank you doc :)
13:25 < Peter-C> Take the benadryl slowly
13:25 < Theo10011> BobTheWikipedian, I'm not sure you should be getting medican advice over IRC.
13:25 < Theo10011> medical too
13:25 < Peter-C> ^
13:25 < Peter-C> Yes
13:25 < BobTheWikipedian> :D
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13:25 < Peter-C> Take this with a dump truck of salt
13:25 < BobTheWikipedian> shhhh don't tell!
13:26 < BobTheWikipedian> table salt or rock salt
13:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Peter-C depends on what he needs to swallow
13:26 < Theo10011> Do anti histamines help you?
13:26 < BobTheWikipedian> hmmm i have before me claritin, tylenol, tums, and m&m's
13:26 < BobTheWikipedian> and peanuts
13:27 < BobTheWikipedian> i'll go with the m&m's
13:27 < Peter-C> If it does not go away in an hour, go to a hospital
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13:27 < Theo10011> well you can save the m&m and peanuts as payment for Peter-c. He can combine the two and make peanut m&ms. Profit!
13:28 < BobTheWikipedian> ooo
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13:31 < BobTheWikipedian> hmmm. a paradox
13:31 < Peter-C> DAMMIT
13:31 < BobTheWikipedian> why why a catholic publisher share a name with a greek titan?
13:31 < Peter-C> Kid is passed out in my high school
13:31 < Peter-C> >:|
13:31 < BobTheWikipedian> :( have fun
13:31 < Peter-C> Nah
13:31 < Peter-C> Someone else is on duty
13:32 < BobTheWikipedian> have fun not being on duty :)
13:32 < Peter-C> I get off duty alerts because I knew my school has a large potential to have problems like this
13:32 < Peter-C> But calls at my school always happen when I am at home
13:32 < BobTheWikipedian> lol
13:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Peter-C suggesiton, park the ambulance across the street at all times and sleep in it :p
13:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> "we have to check all of the girls for infection" >:D
13:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Peter-C sounds legit, no?
13:34 < Peter-C> I wish
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13:37 < BobTheWikipedian> :o logo fail: http://www.giamusic.com/images/splash_image.jpg
13:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they may catch on if you try Transvaginal ultrasound :P
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13:39 < Ironholds> hey shim
13:39 < Ironholds> oh, he was leaving. balls.
13:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ya
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14:02 < Carly> helouuu :D
14:04 < Theo10011> Yes, hello
14:05 < Carly> jelouuu theo10011 :)
14:05 < Theo10011> jelloooo!
14:05 < Carly> hiii!!
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14:28 < Theopolisme> Theo10011, i don't think we've been introduced
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14:28 < Theo10011> No, I don't believe we have.
14:28 < Theopolisme> Nice to meet another theo out there--the only reason I noticed is because I !stalk "theo" on IRC and Bob pinged me an hour or so ago -_-
14:29 < Theopolisme> or, you, rather...
14:29 < Theo10011> hada
14:29 < Theo10011> haha
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14:29 < Theo10011> Sawry about any confusion.
14:29 < Theopolisme> No problem ;)
14:29 < Carly> Good evening Parceros
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14:38 < Carly> hi Mareklug :) whats up parcero
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14:44 < Bsadowski1> http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/05/the-controversial-topics-of-wikipedia/
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14:45 < Bsadowski1> http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.5566
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15:21 < Carly> hi Richard_wiggler
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15:24 < richard_wiggler> hello!
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15:25 < Carly> How are you richard_wiggler :)
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15:26 < Bradford> GabrielF:  feo
15:26 < GabrielF> hi
15:27 < Bradford> hi feo
15:27 < GabrielF> be nice
15:28 < Carly> he said in spanish "Hi ugly"
15:28 < Carly> bradford fea tu abuela y tu
15:28 < Bradford> callate Carly
15:28 < Bradford> tu tambien eres fea
15:28 < Bradford> :)
15:29 < Carly> eres monstruo
15:29 < Carly> bradford feito pero con estilo
15:29 < Bradford> ._.
15:30 < richard_wiggler> I'm doing quite well, how are you?
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15:31 < Carly> fine Richard_wiggler :)
15:31 < Carly> bye
15:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> "Forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad killed three Westerners, including an American woman and a British national, who they claim were fighting with the rebels, state media says."
15:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> that was broken news
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15:33 < Pharos> the other westerner was from a nonntable nationality
15:34 < QueenOfFrance> how is a nationality non-notable?
15:34 < QueenOfFrance> oh
15:34 < QueenOfFrance> good point :D
15:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos maybe the ID didnt provde that
15:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> could be russian too
15:34 < Pharos> how do you know someine's a westerner without an ID?
15:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> by their appearanc
15:34 < Pharos> russians are not westerners :P
15:34 < QueenOfFrance> Pharos: you ask him before you kill them
15:35 < SigmaWP> Pharos: everyone lives in the western part
15:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> QueenOfFrance something like that
15:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> "The TV report claimed the three were also found with a flag of the al-Nusra Front, an al Qaeda-linked group."
15:35 < Pharos> japanese are more western than russians
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15:36 < QueenOfFrance> Actually, if you're chinese, the americans are easterners
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15:36 < QueenOfFrance> so the whole thing is silly
15:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos you cant be more eastern than the japanese
15:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they prefer sticks to forks!
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15:36 < QueenOfFrance> ToAruShiroiNeko: well if you're japanese, you can be more eastern than the japanese
15:36 < QueenOfFrance> you could be american :P
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15:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> QueenOfFrance or from new zealand
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15:37 < QueenOfFrance> ToAruShiroiNeko: that too
15:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> how the hell is new zealand western?
15:37 < QueenOfFrance> while the great western powers of china and india
15:37 < QueenOfFrance> etc
15:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> there is nothing easter than them!
15:37 < QueenOfFrance> ToAruShiroiNeko: that's not western
15:37 < QueenOfFrance> well if you're in the us
15:37 < QueenOfFrance> new zealand is western
15:37 < QueenOfFrance> as is japan
15:38 < Pharos> japanese are geopolitically western
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15:38 < Pharos> they could practically join NATO
15:38 < QueenOfFrance> Pharos: western of who?
15:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos they are nato affiliates
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15:38 < QueenOfFrance> North Anything Treaty ORganization
15:39 < Pharos> etymology is a liar and a fool
15:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> QueenOfFrance atlantic?
15:39 < QueenOfFrance> ToAruShiroiNeko: how would japan be in the atlantic? :)
15:39 < QueenOfFrance> also, how is turkey in the atlantic, etc
15:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> well if you go north of japan you reach the atlantic
15:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> how the hell is germany near the atlantic?
15:39 < QueenOfFrance> Don't you reach the north sea?
15:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> or belgium
15:39 < QueenOfFrance> ToAruShiroiNeko: belgium is on the atlantic tho
15:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it is?
15:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I just the the british channel
15:40 < Pharos> sort of
15:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :p
15:40 < QueenOfFrance> The channel area is part of the atlantic ocean
15:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> GROAN :p
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15:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> italy definately isnt
15:40 < QueenOfFrance> Indeed
15:40 < Pharos> but columbus was Italian
15:40 < QueenOfFrance> Pharos: was he?
15:40 < Pharos> was they get an exception :P
15:40 < Pharos> he was
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15:40 < SigmaWP> QueenOfFrance: Just say his name with an accent
15:41 < SigmaWP> Actually
15:41 < QueenOfFrance> SigmaWP: lol how can I do that :P
15:41 < GorillaWarfare> Woooo, my Irssi is fixed *now*
15:41 < QueenOfFrance> ToAruShiroiNeko: actually, look ath wikipedia for mediterranean sea "The sea is sometimes considered a part of the Atlantic Ocean, although it is usually identified as a completely separate body of water."
15:41 < Pharos> his origin is slightly mysterious, but the great majority of scholars agree he was Italian from Genoa area
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15:42 < QueenOfFrance> Pharos: no Cristofao Colombao? :(
15:42 < Pharos> Christoforo Colombo!
15:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> quanticle doesnt help czech republic now does it?
15:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> QueenOfFrance I mean
15:42 < QueenOfFrance> ToAruShiroiNeko: the great fleet of the czech republic was needed for the organization obviously
15:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> luxembourg?
15:43 < Pharos> Some Spaniards ironically like to claim now he was of Spanish Jewish origin
15:43 < QueenOfFrance> Well, they needed the money from the banks
15:43 < QueenOfFrance> to finance the fleet
15:43 < QueenOfFrance> or something
15:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they could probably buy a yatch
15:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> NATO yatch fleet!
15:44 < QueenOfFrance> ToAruShiroiNeko: honestly, imo it's a joke. It should be renamed 'cause it doesn't have anything to do with the north atlantic
15:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> figting somalian pirates with oars :p
15:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> QueenOfFrance I know, I was playing along
15:44 < QueenOfFrance> I could justify luxembourg or the mediterranean powers
15:44 < QueenOfFrance> but central europe is silly
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15:45 < Pharos> Columbus departed on the same day as the explusion of the muslims and jews
15:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Not just Atlantic Treaty Organization?
15:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you could ommit the just :p
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15:47 < Pharos> North Atlantic Treaty Organization And Spa
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15:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Assad plans to seek re-election
15:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> vote ballots will be delivered by air mail
15:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> and return in mortars
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15:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> violent actions in OK
15:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://kfor.com/on-air/live-streaming/
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16:25 < mamagi_> hello
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16:25 < Pilif12p> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camino http://caminobrowser.org/ somebody should update that page.
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16:31 < mamagi_> hello???????
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16:32 < IDoH> Hey guys
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16:32 < Jetro> hey
16:32 < Jetro> !!!!!!
16:32 < mamagi_> where do you from
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16:33 < IDoH> mamagi_: Midwest United States
16:34 < Jetro> We don't need your life story, IDoH.
16:34 < Jetro> sorry, just messing.
16:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Jetro IdoH doesnt need a life sotry
16:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its all in his nick
16:34 < Jetro> Yes.
16:34  * IDoH starts to imitate a Midwestern granny. "When I was a young in', now, now..."
16:34 < IDoH> ToAruShiroiNeko: Her nick.
16:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> IDoH err
16:34 < mamagi_> i asked
16:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> right
16:35 < Jetro> IDoH: When I read that, I just jump to Texas red-state accent
16:35 < Jetro> :D
16:35 < Jetro> Although midwest people probably talk not like that
16:35 < Jetro> I cannot into English
16:35 < IDoH> Jetro: Not many, unless you're in the Southern parts of the Midwest, and you're old.
16:36 < Jetro> so she wouldn't go straight to her shotgun and tell people to get off her lawn
16:36 < IDoH> No, that might still happen.
16:36 < IDoH> Just with more of a "TV accent"
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16:37 < Jetro> :D
16:37 < mamagi_> ill be death tomorrow
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16:46 < Bradford> Jetro: :-*
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16:53 < elquanto> GorillaWarfare, Peter-C: reach any opinion on quality of sources in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Renewable_energy&diff=548559878&oldid=548114851 ?
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16:59 < GorillaWarfare> elquanto: Er, why are you asking me?
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16:59 < elquanto> you are uninvolved in the "is carbon neutral fuel really carbon neutral" debate
17:00 < GorillaWarfare> Oh
17:00 < elquanto> frankly I think the only people who day
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17:01 < elquanto> ...who say it isn't are conflicted by agribusinesses
17:01 < Carly> Helouuuu :D
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17:03 < elquanto> the biofuels farm subsidy recipients don't want people to think about all the fuel it takes to grow crops for fuel, and what that does to food prices, and what that means in the developing world
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17:05 < elquanto> the abiotic fuel synthesis people are too new to fight back, but they were established in the peer reviewed secondary lit half a decade ago
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17:07 < elquanto> now that their commercial programs are online in Iceland and Germany, it should be easy, but you might want to look at the block history of the deleting editor. Not a paragon of stellar judgment IMHO
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17:11 < elquanto> web Pharos
17:12 < elquanto> wb* damn autocorrect
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17:13 < elquanto> I was asking you about the quality of sources deleted in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Renewable_energy&diff=548559878&oldid=548114851 too a few days ago, wasn't I?
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17:17 < elquanto> The Sabatier process used for abiotic fuel synthesis is 100 years old this year, but pinning down a day is very hard
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17:18 < elquanto> there were preprints and different editions on different continents, and eratta sub-editions etc
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17:21 < elquanto> plus, there's a good argument that carbon negative fuel is essential for survival of the chordates from plankton collapse
17:21 < elquanto> BTW you're a chordate
17:21 < BlastHardcheese> so's your mom
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17:22 < elquanto> your mom is such a chordate her brain bifurcated
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17:30 < elquanto> so there are really two choices here: carbon negative fuel or the return to dominance of the octopi and sqiuid
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17:31 < elquanto> as a practical matter the latter would limit your sushi options
17:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> elquanto wat?
17:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sushi powered cars?
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17:32 < elquanto> no, low ocean pH
17:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mmm
17:32 < elquanto> carbonic acid?
17:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> basic oceans?
17:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> nature dislikes that
17:32 < elquanto> low not high
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17:33 < elquanto> coral would be into less acidity too
17:34 < IDoH> For those who were here late last night, huggle is working again.
17:34 < Bradford> O_O
17:34 < Bradford> elquanto: o_O
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17:35 < elquanto> I need opinions, damnit, not emoticons. I'm a researcher not a performance artist
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17:40 < elquanto> back in the 70s you could get an opinion on the oil crisis from anyone in a gas line.
17:42 < elquanto> are you with the squid or the tuna on this?
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17:44 < BlastHardcheese> tuna is pretty tasty
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17:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> elquanto I cant comment without analysis
17:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I too am a researcher
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17:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I wouldnt be much of a researcher without data
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17:48 < elquanto> thus my question about the quality of sources removed at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Renewable_energy&diff=548559878&oldid=548114851
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17:49 < Bradford> Carly: hi
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17:49 < elquanto> Please won't someone think of the tuna
17:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> elquanto I think about tuna all the time
17:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> tuna ~ narcotic for kitties
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17:52 < elquanto> I gotta get to work
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17:58 < D_> Oh hey, I can wikilove individual revisions now
17:58 < D_> I'm sure that's old news
17:58 < D_> Carry on.
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18:18 < RocketLauncher> I'm here to report https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.15.222.126 who is an Alex Jones shill removing crap from Alex Jones' article, and reverting anytime someone undos it
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18:19 < RocketLauncher> i'm staying
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18:26 < josue> hola
18:27 < josue> haben
18:28 < josue> hola
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18:28 < josue> gh
18:29 < Carly> josue hey whats up
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18:30 < josue> que
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18:34 < josue> si
18:34 < josue> cali hey gelou
18:34 < josue> culo
18:34 < josue> ,,k
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18:35 < josue> arly: josue hey whats up
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18:36 < josue> <3>
18:36 < josue> <7>>
18:36 < josue> <
18:36 < josue> <<
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18:39 < GorillaWarfare> josue: Stop spamming the channel.
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18:40 < josue> yes ticher
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18:47 < josue>  #canaima
18:47 < josue>  #canaima #canaima
18:47 < Koi> ragesoss: Where do the e-mail addresses on the WMF contact page at wikimediafoundation.org go?
18:47 < josue> El tema de #wikipedia-en es: English Wikipedia | Status: Up (http://status.wikimedia.org/) | Channel guidelines: http://bit.ly/WP-IRC | Need a chanop? Ask here or in #wikimedia-ops | For urgent admin help, say !admin <request>; for revdel, /join #wikipedia-en-revdel | No public logging | Cloak requests: http://bit.ly/IRCcloaks
18:47 < josue> JustBerry ha salido de la sala (quit: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]).
18:47 < josue> josue: hola
18:47 < josue> josue: haben
18:47 < josue> josue: hola
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18:48 < FastLizard4> O_O
18:48 < FastLizard4> Fascinating
18:48 < IDoH> FastLizard4: What is?
18:48 < Koi> josue - Como estas?
18:48 < IDoH> Koi isn't here anymore. Excess flood
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18:48 < legoktm> Koi: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Contact most of those go to otrs
18:49 < Koi> josue: Como estas hoy? Este es el canal para hablar como el Wikipedia en ingles, no es un canal para poner muchos enlaces de otros canales :/
18:49 < GorillaWarfare> legoktm: s/most/all
18:49 < IDoH> I mean, josue isn't here anymore. But now he is.
18:49 < Koi> legoktm: if you get one with a log of -en-help, and it's funny, you know what to do
18:49 < legoktm> GorillaWarfare: not the chapters ones
18:50 < GorillaWarfare> Koi: ... what is that supposed to mean?
18:50 < IDoH> Koi, what just happened in en-help wasn't funny. It was irritating.
18:50 < GorillaWarfare> legoktm: This is true, I didn't scroll :P
18:50 < Koi> IDoH: I meant if ti was a funny EMAIL
18:51 < GorillaWarfare> Koi: OTRS emails are private
18:51 < Koi> GorillaWarfare: Did I say he was supposed to release it?
18:51 < Koi> GorillaWarfare: Don't assume stuff :3
18:51 < GorillaWarfare> Sorry, I'll just ignore the strong implication.
18:51 < Koi> heh.
18:51 < Carly->  josue Hola,esto no es un canal en Espanol,asi que sal fuera como dijo koi
18:51 < Koi> the implication I was going for was reply with "you're still not notable, have fun with that"
18:52 < Koi> Carly-: pero hablas espanol MUCHO aqui... Necesitamos hacer ban a tu tambien?
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18:52 < Carly-> Koi I said him it is not a spanish channeo
18:53 < CensoredBiscuit> hehe... I have a wikipedia cloak now
18:53 < Carly-> so shut up
18:53 < Koi> Carly-: Yo se que dijiste, pero tu hablas mucho espanol aqui otras dias.
18:53 < josue> lose quiero aprender
18:53 < CensoredBiscuit> Carly-: fine... I'll shut up
18:53 < Koi> CensoredBiscuit++
18:53 < Carly-> koi y que te importa?
18:54 < Carly-> censoredbiscuit I didn't meant to you.
18:54 < Koi> Carly-: No puedes decir "callate en espanol" o "habla en ingles" si hablas mucho en espanol aqui :#
18:54 < CensoredBiscuit> Koi: she asked why it was important
18:54 < Carly-> so,keep talking
18:54 < Koi> CensoredBiscuit: I know what she said :3
18:54 < josue> y it was important
18:54 < CensoredBiscuit> Carly-: I dont know it what Koi but meh
18:55 < josue> me pueden ensellar
18:55 < Carly-> what?
18:55 < Koi> Carly-: CensoredBiscuit is speaking nonsense don't mind them.
18:55 < Carly-> josue is saying "can somebody teach me English"
18:55 < josue> meh what?
18:55 < Carly-> koi okay
18:56 < Koi> josue: Pienso que el canal #ingles o #english se existe si quieress aprender ingles.
18:56 < Carly-> lol
18:56 < CensoredBiscuit> If you wanna know what my foriegn langauge experience is like
18:56 < CensoredBiscuit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxEY3DRJUFs
18:56 < josue> tu no me puedes encellar
18:56 < Carly-> Koi You should be kidding bro
18:56 < CensoredBiscuit> about somewhat like that
18:56 < Fluffernutter> oh good lord guys
18:56 < Koi> josue: No se cual canal existe. Es un de los dos :)
18:56 < Carly-> josue is "ensenar"
18:57 < Fluffernutter> if you want to usespanish, use #wikipedia-es. If you want to have slapfights, start ##fightypeople. Neither of those is the game in here.
18:57 < josue> ensellama
18:57 < Koi> josue: No, no podemos ensenar aqui, este es un canal de discusion de Wikipedia, lo siento mucho. Entra en #english para aprender ingles.
18:57 < josue>  josue is "ensenar" yes
18:57 < Koi> Fluffernutter: We are trying to help someone :3
18:58 < Carly-> yes :|
18:58 < Fluffernutter> Koi: and that's why you and Carly- are telling each other to shut up? That helps someone?
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18:58 < Carly-> yes
18:58 < Koi> Fluffernutter: That was one message...
18:58 < Carly-> we were kidding.
18:58 < josue> porque  discusion
18:58 < Koi> wait.
18:58 < Carly-> :|
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18:58 < Koi> I NEVER TOLD carly to shut up
18:59 < foks> my god guys
18:59 < foks> simmer doon
18:59 < GorillaWarfare> foks: I hope that was your accent and not a typo
18:59 < foks> accent
18:59 < Fluffernutter> heh
18:59 < foks> ;)
18:59 < Carly-> oh wait... :|
18:59 < GorillaWarfare> :D
18:59 < CensoredBiscuit> everyone put the guns away
18:59 < Carly-> now he? :|
18:59 < josue> hable en espallon
19:00 < GorillaWarfare> josue: If you would like to speak Spanish, please join #wikipedia-es. This is the English Wikipedia channel.
19:00 < josue> yes
19:00 < CensoredBiscuit> Trololololololol
19:00 < Carly-> Josue Que entres a #wikipedia-es dijo Gorila
19:00 < CensoredBiscuit> jus' sayin
19:00 < josue> oin #wikipedia-es. This is the English Wikipedia channel.
19:00 < josue> josue: yes
19:01 < Carly-> este es canal en Ingles Josue
19:01 < Carly-> entra en wikipedia-es chao
19:01 < Carly-> sal de aqui.
19:01 < josue> no
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19:01 < josue> t
19:02 < josue> tu no mandas
19:02 < Carly-> josue sal y te doy op en una sala
19:02 < Carly-> si?
19:02 < josue> si
19:02 < CensoredBiscuit> can we have a translation atleast?
19:02 < Carly-> op te dare. #wikipedia-es
19:03 < josue> donde es
19:03 < Carly-> ok sal fuera josue
19:03 < Carly-> I am saying.him I will give op to him in some.channel if he leaves this channep
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19:03 < Carly-> is a lie,shhh
19:03 < Carly-> xddd
19:03 < Fluffernutter> good job Carly- :)
19:03 < Carly-> thanks xd
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19:04 < CensoredBiscuit> nice try.
19:04 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has joined #wikipedia-en
19:04 < Carly-> josue te doy +O si.entras en #wikipedia-es
19:04 < Prodego> enough
19:04 < Carly-> y sales de aqui,tendras tu propia sala josue
19:04 < Carly-> O.O
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19:05 < josue> entrame no latego ibitame
19:05 < Carly-> josue es /join #wikipedia-es
19:05 < Carly-> y pide +O te daran operador
19:06 < josue> aja ablamos
19:06 < josue> mañana
19:06 < Prodego> Carly-: enough please
19:06 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+o Prodego] by ChanServ
19:06 < gry> <Prodego> enough
19:06 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+q *!*@186.94.9.191] by Prodego
19:06 < Carly-> no no wait
19:06 < Carly-> prodego calm down he will leave
19:07 < Carly-> josue ok sal de aqui
19:07 < GorillaWarfare> Carly-: That does not appear to be the case
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19:07 < Carly-> he left.
19:07 < Carly-> Gorilla what?
19:07 < Koi> Carly-: That looked like portuguese almost :/
19:07 < a930913> Survey time guys.
19:08 < a930913> Would you object to having a bot thank you if you fixed something?
19:08 < GorillaWarfare> Carly-: It's one thing to stop disrupting of your own accord, it's another to leave because you've been quieted.
19:08 < Carly-> Koi I know
19:08 < GorillaWarfare> a930913: Yes
19:08 < Koi> Carly-: I don't speak portuguese.
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19:08 < Carly-> bad luck for you Koi
19:08 < Fluffernutter> a930913: i don't know if "object", but i would think it was silly, useless, and not feel like it had mademe happier
19:08 < Carly-> xd
19:09 < Koi> Carly-: daras una platano a Fluffernutter para decir "gracias" para hacer menos el situacion.
19:09  * Koi is done spanish now.
19:09 < GorillaWarfare> Koi: Thank you.
19:09 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [-o Prodego] by Prodego
19:09 < Koi> oh, give one to GorillaWarfare too to thank her as well.
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19:10 < CensoredBiscuit> so anyone wanna play guess what fun and interesting thing Dany is doing in real life?
19:10 < Carly-> Koi to thank for what?
19:11 < Koi> "to minimise the situation"
19:11  * Carly- hates the monkeys
19:11 < Carly-> oh
19:11 < gry> which ones?
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19:11 < Carly-> thanks Fluffernutter
19:11 < Carly-> the gorillas in special gry
19:12 < gry> ah. why?
19:12 < Carly-> they are not nice only.
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19:12 < Carly-> hey roo
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19:13 < gry> hehyeah, I can't even find a photo of a smiling Gorilla at Commons
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19:13 < Pharos> do gorillas smile?
19:14 < GorillaWarfare> Pharos: This one does
19:14 < Carly-> hahahaha
19:14 < Carly-> ah no
19:14  * Carly- runs away 
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19:14 < Fluffernutter> hehe
19:14 < CensoredBiscuit> http://imgur.com/a/jPZbQ
19:14 < CensoredBiscuit> ^ Guies
19:14 < GorillaWarfare> gry: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cross-river-gorilla.jpg This one at least looks friendly-ish
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19:15 < Swob> anyone watching the spelling bee?
19:16 < GorillaWarfare> CensoredBiscuit: Ahaha, that's hilarious
19:17 < Carly-> I dont know why but I will see a gorilla in my nightmare
19:17 < CensoredBiscuit> GorillaWarfare: "It is like I am literally giving her a reason to break up with me."
19:17  * Carly- cries and runs away
19:19 < CensoredBiscuit> Swob: its tied
19:20 < Swob> between who??
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19:24 < The_Thing> Oh, for fuck sakes, Microsoft
19:24 < The_Thing> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/05/30/1330238/first-looks-at-windows-81-complete-with-start-button
19:24 < The_Thing> We don't want a fucking start screen
19:24 < gry> Carly-, GorillaWarfare: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gorilla_Thinker.jpg
19:24 < The_Thing> We want a start MENU. MENU, not screen, MENU
19:25 < Carly-> a gorilla? you kill.me bro
19:25 < gry> look at it :)
19:25 < Carly-> gry stop spamming me gorilla's photos xd
19:26 < malacophilous> hi Thinh
19:26 < malacophilous> *Thing
19:26 < Carly-> no
19:26 < Carly-> :)
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19:27 < CensoredBiscuit> Carly-:
19:28 < Carly-> CensoredBiscuit;
19:28 < CensoredBiscuit> y so mad?
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19:28 < Carly-> yes.
19:29  * Carly- goes to bed upset
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19:33 < malacophilous> noooooooo
19:33 < malacophilous> Arvind Mahankali wins the spelling bee
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19:33 < Carly-> -_^
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19:34 < a930913> Is there any script that has a one button revert/warn like huggle or STiki?
19:35 < malacophilous> whats wrong with Huggle and Stiki?
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19:36 < IDoH> malacophilous: Nothing is wrong with Huggle. STiKi looks at old edits, that's what's wrong with it.
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19:36 < a930913> malacophilous: They don't work in the web browser.
19:37 < malacophilous> oh right
19:37 < malacophilous> you want a script
19:37 < malacophilous> and i assume twinkle isnt what you mean by "one button"
19:37 < malacophilous> because it technically is, but it isnt automated
19:38 < malacophilous> you have to choose the warning manyually
19:38 < malacophilous> there probably isnt a way to get that to work with just javascript
19:38 < a930913> malacophilous: Exactly.
19:38 < gry> semi-automation is better anyway
19:38 < GorillaWarfare> Alright, bedtime
19:38 < GorillaWarfare> Gnight
19:38 < malacophilous> night
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19:38 < a930913> gry: Not when one stuggles to keep up.
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19:41 < a930913> struggles*
19:41 < gry> I see
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20:16 < Theopolisme> addshore: so, i bought a new computer.
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20:17 < Theopolisme> (we all know how reliable ebay is...but but but, xe was a trusted seller...)
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20:30 < Hazard-SJ> So ... where are all the non-programmers? ;)
20:31 < a930913> Hazard-SJ: Don't know. Did you know rollback causes X-Frame-Options: DENY?
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20:33 < Huon> someone in -en-help just received this error message when he tries to save his article: [fe5ef81c] 2013-05-31 03:26:11: Fatal exception of type MWException
20:33 < Huon> can someone tell what causes that?
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20:33 < Jasper_Deng> probably something that should be discussed in #wikimedia-tech
20:34 < Jasper_Deng> there are various possible causes
20:34 < Huon> ok, I'll ask over there, thanks
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21:16 < iDM> Pickachu.
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21:22 < CensoredBiscuit> hi yall
21:22 < iDM> Hello rated biscuit
21:23 < mareklug> can I deposit a personal check for a small sum from 3 years ago? :)
21:24 < mareklug> or with the banking gods have my ass in a sling?
21:24 < mareklug> or will *
21:24 < iDM> Chrques have a expiratory date.
21:24 < iDM> Cheques
21:24 < mareklug> 6ynot personal ones
21:25 < mareklug> there is no date on this one, save for when it was made out
21:25 < iDM> None of them do. Usually its valid for 2 weeks
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21:27 < mareklug> iDM i know you are wrong about 2 weeks.  it's 6 months customary in USA.  I cashed a check that was 5 months old at Chase and it went through.
21:28 < mareklug> but I want to see if I can get this $10 check from 2009 to go through...
21:28 < iDM> Okay US is different then
21:28 < iDM> Dont think so.
21:29 < mareklug> well, you think they will hit me with a massive fee/penalty or just make it fail?
21:29 < iDM> Just a red stamp
21:29 < mareklug> but i am gonna deposit it from my iPod :)
21:30 < iDM> Bounced back
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21:34 < iDM> I need a nap
21:34 < Bradford> iDM:  O_O
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21:53 < dtm_> haha i just started my first spanish article.  no hablo espanol muy mucho.
21:55 < iDM> And?
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21:56  * iDM hugs tightly legoktm
21:56  * legoktm huggles iDM 
21:56 < dtm_> and i need a translator.  i requested it in #wikipedia-en.  is anyone good at that here?
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21:57 < iDM> Not me.
21:58 < dtm_> source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walfredo_Reyes,_Jr.   target http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Smuckola/Walfredo_Reyes,_Jr.
21:59 < iDM> Nap time. I sleep with one eye opened.
22:01 < dtm_> gripping your pillow tight.  EXIT: LIGHT.
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22:02 < iDM> Dtm is mean.
22:03 < GabrielF> guess how many external links there are on enwiki
22:03 < dtm_> <333333333
22:03 < dtm_> GabrielF: forty five
22:04 < dtm_> iDM: metallica wasn't THAT bad by then!  it didn't qualify as child abuse yet!
22:04 < iDM> Bite me
22:04 < GabrielF> I just (foolishly) ran wc on the export of the external link database ��table
22:04 < GabrielF> its 10GB uncompressed
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22:05 < GabrielF> oh well if no one wants to guess...
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22:05 < GabrielF> there are 60896310 external links on enwiki
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22:06 < tuprincipe1> hello
22:07 < iDM> Good bye
22:08 < rola> Is this an advertisement? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Potato_chip&diff=prev&oldid=551237029
22:09 < iDM> Yes
22:09 < iDM> Revert it
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22:11 < iDM> Baby yuvipanda
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22:14 < dtm_> GabrielF: lol wc
22:15 < a930913> legoktm: Did I tell you about the anti vandal tool I'm making that only works if you don't have rollback?
22:15 < legoktm> lolwut?
22:16 < a930913> legoktm: I can't frame pages that have rollback, so the tool only displays the diff if you don't have it :(
22:17 < Jasper_Deng> wat
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22:17 < a930913> Jasper_Deng: What wat?
22:18 < Jasper_Deng> "can't frame pages that have rollback"
22:18  * Jasper_Deng is also confused like lego is
22:18 < legoktm> oh
22:18 < legoktm> im not confused by that
22:18 < legoktm> that makes sense
22:18 < Jasper_Deng> why wouldn't you be able to frame a page w/ rollback?
22:18 < a930913> Jasper_Deng: Yeah, rollback sends the header X-Frame-Options:DENY
22:19 < tuprincipe1> speak some interasnte
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22:21 < a930913> Why does browser security have to be so tight? D:
22:21  * a930913 remembers the good ol' days where you could do anything.
22:21 < dtm_> !admin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stickygreenmess  this person is repeatedly vandalizing [[Potato chip]]
22:21 < legoktm> hi
22:21 < legoktm> ok
22:22 < legoktm> dtm_: um, they made 2 edits
22:22 < dtm_> legoktm: how  r u
22:22 < dtm_> yeah.
22:22 < tuprincipe1> so hiciern xq
22:22 < legoktm> yeah, thats not enough for a block
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22:23 < Jasper_Deng> dtm_: and !_admin is only for emergencies
22:23 < yeboot> maybe they stole his acc
22:23 < yeboot> did they steal your acc?
22:24 < dtm_> Jasper_Deng: oh my.  perhaps i have dialed 911 for a kitchen fire.
22:24 < Jasper_Deng> good analogy
22:24 < Jasper_Deng> dtm_: except the police aren't gonna come around and jail you for it
22:24 < tuprincipe1> kien you face aki
22:24 < dtm_> analogies *are* good.  i've always said that.
22:25 < a930913> dtm_: Do you have rollback?
22:25 < yeboot> an analogy is like a good
22:25 < dtm_> a930913: i fear that i do not
22:26 < Jasper_Deng> what's your on-wiki username, dtm_?
22:26 < a930913> dtm_: Good, you can test stuff for me :)
22:26 < dtm_> a930913: i think i asked you about that a while ago and we checked and i think i dont.
22:26 < dtm_> Jasper_Deng: Smuckola
22:26 < dtm_> Jasper_Deng: how bout you
22:26  * Jasper_Deng has it globally
22:26 < dtm_> well done
22:26 < dtm_> a930913: i can ALWAYS test stuff for YOU, man.
22:27 < Jasper_Deng> dtm_: yeah you don't
22:27  * dtm_ picks up a930913's mouse and speaks into it, "testes.  testes.  one.     two........ three."
22:27  * dtm_ blows it all up
22:28  * a930913 blows it all back down again.
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22:30 < dtm_> gg
22:30 < dtm_> see that's how we roll.  teamwork
22:30 < a930913> :p
22:31  * Hazard-SJ pretends to be the police
22:31  * a930913 pretends to be polite.
22:31  * dtm_ polices politely
22:32  * Hazard-SJ is undercover :P
22:32  * a930913 is asleep on the job.
22:33  * a930913 prods dtm_'s attention to ##930913
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22:36  * Hazard-SJ stops pretending, but continues to hide his anger
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22:40 < elquanto_lunch> heatherw: by the way don't actually use that spiral pattern, it can trigger epilepsy in epileptics
22:41 < heatherw> Hah, the ties?
22:41 < elquanto_lunch> the one in opposite directions, black and white
22:41 < dtm_> Hazard-SJ: it's going to be okay, man
22:41 < heatherw> okay, i have no idea what you're talking about
22:42 < elquanto_lunch> the animated gif "hypno pattern" thing from last week
22:42 < elquanto_lunch> the one I asked you to try in place of green leafy backgrounds for fundraiser pics?
22:43 < yeboot> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2isSJKntbg old school rage
22:43 < heatherw> elquanto_lunch: were you talking to me? i don't remember this
22:44 < heatherw> heatherw: i have had a fever, so anything could happen.
22:44 < elquanto_lunch> I /msged it in case there are undiagnosed epileptics lurking
22:45 < Hazard-SJ> dtm_: One way or another
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22:55 < dtm_> Hazard-SJ: k
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23:04 < iDM> Omg I just got a love letter
23:04 < iDM> And I can't even remember who she is
23:07 < legoktm> cheater!
23:07 < iDM> I am not dumping you am I ?
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23:08 < iDM> $
23:08  * iDM hugs legoktm <3
23:09 < legoktm> <3
23:09 < iDM> We are getting married in California I presume?
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23:10 < legoktm> sure!
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23:11 < mareklug> iDM the banking app was too smart to accept the check :)
23:11 < iDM> Ok
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23:15 < iDM> I wish I could go to Urbana tomorrow ...
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23:17 < SigmaWP> hi KP13
23:18 < iDM> You never say hi to me.
23:18 < SigmaWP> You don't have a core in this channel yet
23:18 < iDM> Meaning?
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23:21 < FastLizard4> iDM: Don't worry, SigmaWP doesn't say hi to me either.
23:21 < iDM> Okay FL4.
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23:21 < IDoH> hey
23:21  * iDM hugs idoh and feeds chocolates
23:22  * IDoH hugs back, and eats the chocolate iDM gave her.
23:22  * SigmaWP pat pats IDoH 
23:22  * IDoH pats SigmaWP back
23:23 < iDM> Sigma got horns
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23:23  * Hazard-SJ says bye
23:23 < iDM> Good bye
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23:23 < IDoH> SigmaWP is a devil now, iDM?
23:24 < iDM> I think a rabbai
23:24 < IDoH> He's a rabbai. Why would you get horns if you're a rabbi?
23:25 < iDM> I dunno all I can think of is havanagila
23:25 < BlastHardcheese> rabbait?
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23:34 < iDM> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/What's_Opera,_Doc%3F
23:34 < iDM> Interesting :) thought was just your average cartoon.
23:35 < mareklug> IDoH do read more carefully:  "[01:21:59] iDM	 hugs idoh and feeds chocolates".   <-- clearly he meant it as in "and feeds the fish".
23:36 < mareklug> but what do you feed chocolates?
23:36 < IDoH> mareklug: Cocoa beans, of course
23:36 < iDM> Sugar and everything nice
23:36 < mareklug> i know what you feed cholocolate truffles....
23:36 < mareklug> ….you feed them cocoa powder!
23:38 < mareklug> so get this, this thing is now my router….. http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-FVS318-ProSafe-Firewall-8-Port/dp/B00006B9HC
23:39 < mareklug> and the two Time Capsules are bridged and just relay its routing...
23:40 < mareklug> and I still get this sort of a download performance, even though the FVS388 is not a gigabit ethernet thing, only 10/100T…. http://www.speedtest.net/result/2742797722.png
23:40 < IDoH> Dude, you're fast
23:40 < mareklug> i did it without doing any configuring on the FSV388, which is so complicated it boggles my networking mind...
23:40 < mareklug> but I chose cables carefully :)
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23:42 < mareklug> also, I got the FSV388 and this:  http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSafe-GS108-Gigabit-Desktop/dp/B0000E5SES/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1369982491&sr=1-12&keywords=GS108    for a song ($10) plus $17 shipping
23:42 < iDM> Marek can I have 800USD ?
23:42 < mareklug> from a California recycling company on Ebay
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23:43 < mareklug> the only thing I am missing is the power brick for the GS108, as they entertain quite different voltages and amperages.
23:43 < mareklug> but I asked Ebay/seller to fix that.
23:44 < IDoH> Pinterest has made it harder to delete boards
23:45 < mareklug> iDM I am sure you can have $800.  Is there a Sharia law that would get in the way?
23:45 < iDM> No.
23:45 < iDM> Called moneygram
23:51 < mareklug> but, dude, I hardly have $800 to fork over.  If I did, you think I would be getting dirt bargains on Ebay instead of blowing my money on Amazon prices for Netgear? :)
23:52 < mareklug> also, if I did blow $800 on someone on this channel, it would be for a good cause (™).
23:53 < IDoH> It's the end of the month, iDM. The poor guy is probably starved.
23:54 < mareklug> iDM he east all sort of Americanized junk food on the hour (KFC this, french fries that)
23:54 < mareklug> eats *
23:54 < mareklug> eats meets wets
23:55 < iDM> Mareklug im a food whore
23:55 < TBloemink> I cannot believe that I have access to my paypal account again
23:55 < iDM> Your words
23:55 < TBloemink> decided to call them
23:56 < mareklug> TBloemink goon on ya.  I set up mine in such a way that it won't allow a log in unless I get a text message on a particular mobile phone.
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