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--- Log opened Tue May 14 00:00:39 2013
--- Day changed Tue May 14 2013
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00:00 < PinkAmpersand> i assume none of the admins here are comfortable unblocking without Prodego's green-light, btw?
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00:01 < unforgettableid> PinkAmpersand:  But not on Prodego's talk page, please.  I don't know how closely it lets stalkers pinpoint my location in Toronto.
00:01 < Jasper_Deng> unforgettableid: something's pretty wrong if your XFF is showing up as 127.0.0.1
00:01 < IDoH> I guess nobody wants to be accused of wheel warring, PinkAmpersand, but I'm not an admin, so...yeah.
00:01 < unforgettableid> Jasper_Deng:  two proxies on one machine.
00:01 < unforgettableid> Jasper_Deng:  :)
00:01 < PinkAmpersand> nor am I. :P but closedmouth's around
00:02 < Jasper_Deng> This is why we need a different "sandbox" IP
00:02 < mareklug> btw, you all can test if your iPv6 is working for ya here, when it happens to work for ya. :)   http://www.ipv6forum.com/test_ipv6.php
00:02 < legoktm> You are connected with IPv4! The IPv6 Globe is not spinning for you.
00:03 < mareklug> legoktm probably need to configure some shit on your laptop as in allow automatically ip6 and don't block incoming ip6
00:03 < Jasper_Deng> Congratulations! You are connected with IPv6! The IPv6 Globe is spinning for you.
00:03 < mareklug> unless the university is blocking it, then you are out of luck
00:03  * Jasper_Deng doesn't expect the majority of people on this channel to be using IPv6
00:03 < PinkAmpersand> speaking of admins, it's legoktm!
00:03 < legoktm> mareklug: I'm at home now
00:03 < legoktm> PinkAmpersand: Hi
00:04 < IDoH> You are connected with IPv4! The IPv6 Globe is not spinning for you.
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00:04 < unforgettableid> Jasper_Deng:  people who want to test using automated administration tools' blocking capabilities could block 127.0.0.2 instead.
00:04 < PinkAmpersand> legoktm: i don't wanna pester Prodego with this if one of the admins here is willing to unblock, is all.
00:04 < Jasper_Deng> unforgettableid: or ::1
00:04 < mareklug> legoktm then definitely check the router:  needs not to block incoming ip6 and needs DNS servers for ip6, either your ISP's or Google's.
00:04 < Jasper_Deng> mareklug: you're assuming his ISP supports IPv65
00:04 < Jasper_Deng> that's not guaranteed
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00:04 < Jasper_Deng> IPv6*
00:05 < legoktm> PinkAmpersand: ill read up in a bit, doing an article move right now
00:05 < mareklug> Jasper_Deng all I am making sure is that his set up at home does not negate it.  jezuz krist.
00:05 < unforgettableid> legoktm:  hi :)
00:05 < Jasper_Deng> lol what's the point if he has no IPv6 outside connection?
00:05 < mareklug> we don't know that.
00:07  * Jasper_Deng pokes Dcoetzee
00:07 < Jasper_Deng> (a math question)
00:08 < legoktm> unforgettableid: can you try now? i made the block anon-only
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00:09 < unforgettableid> legoktm:  I can now edit when logged in, but not when logged out.
00:09 < unforgettableid> legoktm:  may I suggest a certain unblock reason BTW?:
00:09 < legoktm> im not going to unblock it without prodego's ok
00:09 < IDoH> That's kind of the point, unforgettableid. You can edit while logged in, but not logged out.
00:10 < unforgettableid> legoktm:  I suggest:  "[[User:Unforgettableid]] is behind two proxy servers on one machine.  This block is affecting him.  He suspects that one is adding 'X-Forwarded-For: 127.0.0.1' headers.  Unblocking."
00:10 < unforgettableid> legoktm:  fine.  I can now edit; thank you very much.
00:10 < legoktm> ill leave him a note
00:11 < mareklug> legoktm you did not tell me earlier -- are you on Textual 3.0.1?
00:11 < mareklug> Current Version: Textual 3.0.1 (Build #1856)
00:11 < legoktm> Current Version: Textual 3.0.0 (Build #1758)
00:11 < mareklug> legoktm in the App Store
00:11 < legoktm> i havent closed it yet to upgrade
00:11 < mareklug> anyway, it has a button on the server prefs where you can tell it to favor ip6 over ip4 but it clearly does not work for me.
00:12 < IDoH> unforgettableid: Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wheel_warring#Reinstating_a_reverted_action_.28.22wheel_warring.22.29. We're trying to avoid that.
00:12 < unforgettableid> IDoH:  Fair.
00:15 < legoktm> unforgettableid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Prodego#127.0.0.1
00:15  * legoktm goes afk
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00:29 < unforgettableid> legoktm:  I replied on Prodego's talk page.
00:29 < unforgettableid> legoktm:  You need not do anything:  really, my reply is for Prodego's benefit.  :)
00:31  * legoktm saw
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00:41 < mareklug> now it is
00:42 < mareklug> maybe Textual IRC does not know how to do SSL over ipv6
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00:45 < a930913> Good peoples of The Internet. With what should I breakfast?
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00:49 < tommorris> a930913: a nice chewy croissant.
00:53 < mareklug> a930913 if you have onion bagels, toast them in the oven, have with butter or cream cheese or surimi
00:53  * a930913 has neither :(
00:53 < a930913> How does one make croissants?
00:53 < mareklug> it's harder than making chocolate truffles
00:53 < mareklug> it's basically not worth it.  buy them.
00:54 < a930913> mareklug: Buying them involves getting dresses and venturing outside the house.
00:54 < mareklug> getting dresses, eh?
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00:54 < a930913> Unless it's a dire emergency, I'm not inclined to do either.
00:55 < a930913> s/dresses/dressed/
00:55 < mareklug> what exactly do you have on hand that you propose to make croissants with?
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00:56 < a930913> mareklug: Flour, water, sugar, butter?
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00:57 < a930913> Looks like you need to let it rise overnight though :(
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00:57 < a930913> I can make awesome bread in that time.
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00:59 < mareklug> http://www.finecooking.com/recipes/classic-croissants.aspx     they say up front that it is simple, but it is insane amount of work and time.
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00:59 < a930913> mareklug: I'm trying to find one I could do within the hour.
01:00 < mareklug> croissant or bread?
01:00 < mareklug> you don't have a bread machine, do you
01:00 < a930913> This one requires butter puff pastry, wtf? http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/nigella-lawson/chocolate-croissants-recipe/index.html
01:00 < a930913> mareklug: I got a bosche.
01:00 < a930913> And a bread machine.
01:01 < a930913> But my mum uses the bread machine, I use the bosch.
01:01 < mareklug> http://www.rachaelraymag.com/food-how-to/cooking-tips/how-to-make-homemade-bread/
01:01 < a930913> That bread is not awesome.
01:02 < a930913> The stuff I make has a crapload of sugar, in and out :)
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01:03 < mareklug> you have apples?
01:03 < a930913> Yes.
01:03 < mareklug> cinnamon?
01:03 < a930913> Yes.
01:03 < mareklug> nuts?
01:03 < a930913> Any particular variety?
01:03 < mareklug> sounds like you have some.  http://www.foodgeeks.com/recipes/awesome-apple-bread-2901
01:04 < mareklug> and baking soda
01:04  * a930913 doesn't like cooked apples.
01:04 < mareklug> it's baked appels
01:04 < mareklug> apples
01:04  * a930913 doesn't like denatured apples/
01:04 < a930913> s/\/./
01:04 < mareklug> i think you can substitute bananas
01:04 < a930913> s/\//./
01:04 < mareklug> or anything else
01:05 < mareklug> try cellery
01:05 < a930913> Fruit sounds too healthy.
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01:05 < mareklug> why are you in the business of owning a bread machine if you don't want healthy
01:06 < a930913> mareklug: Because tasty?
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01:06 < IDoH> Mmm. Tasty.
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01:13  * a930913 settles for cream crackers with nutella for lack of ideas.
01:14 < mareklug> a930913 all hat no cattle
01:14 < mareklug> even my digorno pizza is better than that
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01:15 < a930913> mareklug: Yes, but I'm hungry now, I'm not particular for waiting for a rising or two.
01:16 < mareklug> make ramen.  at least it will be warm.
01:17  * a930913 is vege and doesn't like Chinese/Japanese styled foods.
01:19 < mareklug> how can you be a vegetarian and NOT like Chinese or Japanese food.
01:19 < a930913> Because I'm a very fussy eater :)
01:20 < mareklug> have you tried very firm tofu stir fried in olive oil with baby corn and garlic?
01:21 < a930913> I essentially survive off flour, potato and rice.
01:21 < mareklug> sounds terrible.
01:21 < mareklug> also sounds like high glycemic index
01:21 < a930913> mareklug: I don't like tofu much, I prefer mycoprotein.
01:22 < a930913> mareklug: All the more time for editing the 'pedia ;)
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01:29 < a930913> Hmm, does 400GB/mo in download sound right for my home broadband?
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01:39 < LtNOWIS2> Man, I'm not involved with Articles for Improvement at all, but Steam definately seems like a good candidate to me
01:39 < LtNOWIS2> TAFI rather
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01:40 < tommorris> Steam as in hot water or as in the game service?
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02:40 < Pink|away> any admins around who feel like out-of-process deleting some random userspace erotica?
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02:42 < Pink|away> (very bad erotica, I should note)
02:42 < tommorris> Pink|away: image or text?
02:42 < Pink|away> text
02:42 < Pink|away> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lvbag001/sandbox
02:42 < tommorris> Pink|away: sure. ping me the URLs in /msg
02:43 < tommorris> oh okay
02:43 < Pink|away> i did a quick copyvio scan, and nothing came up, but still... there's more than enough sites that will host that for free
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02:44 < tommorris> I got the drift of the story, couldn't quite work out if it was gay or hetero.
02:44 < a930913> mareklug: I have lots of dough. :)
02:45 < tommorris> Or rather, I got the drift that it was porn, but couldn't quite work out who the participants are supposed to be
02:45 < PinkQuelqueChose> hetero. there's some anatomy toward the end.
02:46 < PinkQuelqueChose> "Liam: Babe I planning to football freeze when you believed he already left, he stops mid-sentence. You: I sorry, I just reaches you in three easy strides, his eyes darkening with lust."
02:46 < mareklug> a930913 meanwhile I made a wet stir fry with lots of broccoli, sweet onion, japapeños, olive oil, water, paprika, cayenne pepper, dried chiles, and 3 slices of swiss cheese melted into it.
02:46 < PinkQuelqueChose> part of me thinks maybe instead that should've been used to train GOCE members.
02:46 < PinkQuelqueChose> seriously some of the worst-written porn I've ever seen.
02:47 < a930913> mareklug: Sounds too fresh and unprocessed to me :p
02:47 < tommorris> I grasped the terribleness of it, and that was one of many reasons I decided not to get to the end of it. ;)
02:48 < tommorris> The other being that I'm in the office.
02:48 < PinkQuelqueChose> haha
02:48 < mareklug> a930913 I dumped what louisiana hot sauce I had left in the fridge over it, so that is my concession to processed.
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02:49 < PinkQuelqueChose> i skimmed to the end just to find out gender. would've made a far more interesting gay story. football player and his roommate... i mean come on, with a girl that's a cliché, with a boy that's like a potential Oscar-winning script
02:50 < tommorris> Generally, Oscar-winning scripts don't get IAR deleted from Wikipedia by me in a hurry.
02:50 < PinkQuelqueChose> this is true.
02:51 < PinkQuelqueChose> but that makes the story behind the movie that much more inspirational ;)
02:52 < PinkQuelqueChose> think about it, like every Best Picture gets dropped by at least one studio before getting released. Slumdog, Hurt Locker, etc.
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02:56 < PinkQuelqueChose> LOL some idiot just tagged his own article for G12, then untagged it, which got him the "speedy deletion template removed" tag, bringing it to my attention, and leading me to... tag it for G12
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04:01 < Theopolisme> Herro there, Seddon
04:01 < Theopolisme> Shit
04:02 < Theopolisme> I got ping for that
04:02 < Theopolisme> *pinged; ...fail
04:02 < Seddon> lol you need to change your settings if you got pinged for that lol
04:02 < Theopolisme> -.-
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04:11 < addshore> Theopolisme: just got you on wikiping ;p sounds good :)
04:11 < Theopolisme> Wikiping!
04:11 < Theopolisme> It's quite magical
04:12 < Theopolisme> And will greatly reduce my User talk edits as a result, since i don't have to talkback anymore
04:12 < Bradford> hi
04:12 < Bradford> :)
04:13 < addshore> Theopolisme: it is amazing ;p
04:14  * a930913 spams Theopolisme's name all over the wiki talk pages before blacklists get implemented. :p
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04:20 < a930913> Revdel? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TPS_report&oldid=555037210
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04:24 < PinkQuelqueChose> a930913: lol let 'em get spammed
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04:27 < a930913> PinkQuelqueChose: My thoughts too :)
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04:33 < Andy123> what are you doing krenair?
04:33 < Andy123> a930913, deleted
04:34 < Ushau97> many of the channels, it seems (Krenair_)
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04:46 < Qcoder00> Hi Theo
04:47 < Qcoder00> How is the bot doing?
04:47 < Qcoder00> Theopolisme:  See also my Bot Request about a bot to fix redirected 'fair use' images...
04:48 < Qcoder00> I don't think I'm going to get much headway in respect of redirects to non-free images, (which should be Commons anyway)
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04:54 < kelapstick> Good day
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05:09 < wissam> Hi ,can i ask a question about kiwix here ?
05:10 < tommorris> wissam: sure. you might not get a useful answer. ;)
05:11 < wissam> i have kiwix with preindexed zim files on windows and i want to use kiwix on linux .can i use the index files in windows partions so that i don't have to index zim files again?
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05:46 < ChrisGualtieri> Hey. How do I add an article that was cited in the media... namely for vandalism?
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05:48 < tommorris> ChrisGualtieri: what do you mean 'add'? create it as usual.
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05:48 < tommorris> ChrisGualtieri: alternatively, tell me about where the media is citing it for vandalism and I'll hit it with whatever admin tools i have to hand.
05:48 < ChrisGualtieri> No the article covers the vandalism of the Roy Blunt article in its reporting.
05:48 < ChrisGualtieri> Its long gone. :)
05:49 < ChrisGualtieri> http://rt.com/usa/monsanto-bill-blunt-agriculture-006/
05:49 < tommorris> "His Senate seat was previously held by Republican Kit Bond, until Bond's retirement, and will be sold by Blunt to Monsanto Corporation upon his retirement." - Hah.
05:50 < ChrisGualtieri> I know right. They even screenshotted it.
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05:58 < Qcoder00> http://rt.com/usa/supreme-court-monsanto-patent-615/ - Standard Farming practice is illegal?
05:59 < ChrisGualtieri> If you buy bin grain ones... yes
06:00 < ChrisGualtieri> Might seem a bit dramatic, but the ruling could have been far worse.
06:00 < Qcoder00> I'm sorry Monsanto employee, but in order to protect your company's intellectual property I'm going to have to stop you reproducing...
06:00 < Qcoder00> ;)
06:00 < Qcoder00> .. because your genetic may have been contaminated by Monsanto's proprieatry technology :)
06:00 < ChrisGualtieri> Though bowman knew what he was doing because he had previously had a contract about seeds, he tried to skirt it with the second crop from the silo.
06:01 < ChrisGualtieri> 9-0 at the Supreme Court.
06:01 < Qcoder00> Somehow I don't thank Monsanto's employees would agree to be castrated ;)
06:02 < Qcoder00> I'm almost consering asking someone from anonops to ask  Monstanto if it will castrate employees to prevent 'genetic' leaks XD
06:02 < Qcoder00> *considering
06:03 < Qcoder00> Preventing farmers from doing what they have done as a STANDARD practice since civilisation began is silly
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06:03 < Qcoder00> and allowing Monsanto to 'release' a blackmail crop is unreasonable
06:05 < SoapX> oh is this the case where Monsanto was suing farmers for using Monsanto-patented crops?
06:05 < SoapX> and not paying Monsanto for it
06:06 < Qcoder00> If Monsanto wanted a one crop seed, they could have put terminator genes in
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06:06 < mareklug_> Qcoder00 eating is also a STANDARD practice since even before civilization began.  But if you so much as pop a grape in your mouth in a store without paying for it, you will be arrested for shoplifting.  I mean, it happens all the time.
06:06 < Qcoder00> mareklug_:  True
06:08 < SoapX> "Your honor, please don't send me to jail. It was so plump and juicy I just couldnt resist? Surely I can be forgiven for eating just one grape?"
06:08 < mareklug_> surely I can be forgiven for stealing just one billion.
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06:09 < mareklug_> SoapX this reminds me of a joke I heard still as a child in Poland:
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06:10 < mareklug_> a gentleman asks a lady (I think this was a true anecdote ascribed to George Bernard Shaw): Would you sleep with me for a million pounds?
06:10 < mareklug_> The lady answers, "Well, of course!".
06:10 < mareklug_> The gentleman continues levelly:
06:10 < SoapX> i already know the punchline
06:10 < mareklug_> And would you sleep with me for 1 pound?
06:11 < SoapX> oh sorry I guess not
06:11 < mareklug_> there...
06:11 < SoapX> there's a similar joke that ends different , sorry for assuming
06:11 < mareklug_> The lady is appalled and offended, and exclaims:  "Of course not!  Who do you take me for?!"
06:12 < mareklug_> The gentleman answers:  "We already established that.  Now we are only negotiating the price."
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06:13 < mareklug_> so what was your joke variant?
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06:14 < Qcoder00> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/may/13/supreme-court-monsanto-indiana-soybean-seeds
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06:14 < Qcoder00> I think Anonymous needs to get active on this
06:14 < Qcoder00> As was said in Omen II " Famine is good for business!"
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06:16  * Qcoder00 ponders how you can afford 'contaminated' seeds ...
06:16 < mareklug_> Qcoder00 don't get caught up in anti-corporate ideology.  This is a clear cut case of property infringement.  If you don't like patent law as it applies to biology, take it up with the US Congress.
06:16 < SoapX> whats the term for someone who lives in Scarborough?
06:17 < Qcoder00> mareklug_:   I would if I were US based
06:17 < SoapX> Scarboroughan? Scarboroughite? Or is there something more "clever" like what you get with Manchester ----> Mancunian (even if only for the Manchester in England)
06:17 < mareklug_> Scarboroughan?
06:17 < SoapX> Google gives plenty of hits for both but Id be surprised if after 900 years they havent settled on one or the other as the preferred term
06:18 < SoapX> wait I got it
06:18 < SoapX> A person from Scarborough is traditionally known as a Scarborian, yet many different names are used.
06:18 < SoapX> i should have just gone to WP in the first place instead of Google
06:18 < Qcoder00> mareklug_:  As was suggested elsewhere in the comments, other farmers are suggested to serve notice on Monsanto that 'leakage' is a tresspass... and then NOT buy Monsanto seeds
06:19 < mareklug_> SoapX where was that info?  I looked in this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Scarborough,_North_Yorkshire
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06:20 < SoapX> on the main page
06:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so US wiretaps AP?
06:20 < mareklug_> it should be the value of the demonym parameter in the infobox and/or mentioned in the lead
06:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gasp!
06:21  * ToAruShiroiNeko imagines US wiretaps people wiretapping the US
06:21 < Qcoder00> Would not suprise me
06:22 < SoapX> marek http://shaggy-dogs.briancombs.net/1712/bubba-and-the-gorilla-problem
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07:01 < ChrisGualtieri> mareklug_ You gave me something to do before, right?
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07:05 < mareklug_> what is that?
07:05 < ChrisGualtieri> A tool for transfering images to common
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07:22 < mareklug_> ChrisGualtieri from where?  I might want to use it.   I use the from flickr thingee.  and the derivative FX thing by Luxo.
07:23 < ChrisGualtieri> No this was from Enwiki to Commons
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