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--- Log opened Mon May 13 00:00:44 2013
--- Day changed Mon May 13 2013
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00:02 < iDM> squeaks
00:02 < iDM> IDoH want a cookie?
00:02 < IDoH> Okay. I'll have a cookie.
00:03  * iDM gives IDoH Oreos
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00:04 < Jasper_Deng> had*
00:04 < iDM> hat chocolate chip
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00:05 < iDM> I am googling that Jasper_Deng
00:05 < Jasper_Deng> wat
00:07 < iDM> Jasper_Deng http://tinyurl.com/cw3u2oo
00:07 < iDM> closest I found
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00:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/_np/7807/20137807.jpg
00:09 < a930913> Can you search for edits with a given edit summary?
00:09  * Jasper_Deng spits it back out
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00:12 < iDM> bye
00:12 < iDM> Matthew_ sleep well
00:13 < Matthew_> iDM: You, too!
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00:23 < SigmaWP> Amqui: What does "que veut dire" mean?
00:24 < Jasper_Deng> there's no subject in that, SigmaWP
00:24 < SigmaWP> Realy?
00:24 < SigmaWP> I didn't know that
00:24 < Jasper_Deng> so it's hard for me to guess
00:25 < SigmaWP> It's an expression of some sort
00:25 < Jasper_Deng> but I'm guessing it means "What wants to say?" literally
00:25 < SigmaWP> What want tell, whatever that means
00:25  * Jasper_Deng pokes PInkAmpersand
00:25 < Jasper_Deng> (Amqui is probably off)
00:25  * PinkAmpersand yelps
00:25 < PinkAmpersand> umm
00:26 < PinkAmpersand> "que veut dire" literally means "which wants to say"... so probably something like "that is to say" or "to say"
00:26 < PinkAmpersand> context?
00:26 < SigmaWP> "Que veut dire un ordinateur"?
00:26 < PinkAmpersand> (actually, "that is to say" is "ça va dire")
00:27 < PinkAmpersand> hmm. as a question or a statement?
00:27 < SigmaWP> Question
00:27 < sam> "que veut dire" means "what does ____ mean?"
00:27 < SigmaWP> Thanks, sam
00:27 < sam> as the beginning of a sentence, it can only be a question
00:27 < PinkAmpersand> yeah.
00:28  * Jasper_Deng only pokes with very dull things, don't worry
00:29 < PinkAmpersand> :)
00:30 < PinkAmpersand> good, because I never knew I could actually get exhausted from deleting stuff on WD.
00:31 < PinkAmpersand> mmm... tired...
00:31 < Jasper_Deng> well, I've been on the computer for fully 14 hours now and my wrists are getting a little fatigued
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00:34 < a930913> Jasper_Deng: You need more practice, that's all.
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00:35 < Jasper_Deng> practice with what?
00:36 < a930913> Jasper_Deng: Being on the computer for extended periods.
00:36 < Jasper_Deng> I've been on for longer
00:36 < a930913> I've been within 2m of my computer since waking up :p
00:37 < Jasper_Deng> so have I
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00:37 < a930913> Jasper_Deng: :D
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00:42 < a930913> Is it me, or does this edit seem like it's dumbing down the article? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=554397428&diff=cur
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01:04 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko care to translate that for me?  it is a graphic so hard to google transalte
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01:27 < legoktm> sigh.
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01:28 < a930913> legoktm: ?
01:28 < legoktm> netsplit.
01:28 < a930913> legoktm: Merry netsplitmas.
01:29 < Pancetta> tommorris: I like your post
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01:31 < closedmouth> jeez
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01:35 < Qcoder00> Morning
01:35 < Qcoder00> Wiki slow?
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01:48 < eeekster> lovely: "The wiki is currently in read-only mode'
01:49 < iDM|afk> lovely from Virginia?
01:49 < eeekster> huh?
01:49 < iDM|afk> Read that wrong. Thought user lovely.
01:50 < eeekster> no, it was just an editorial comment
01:51 < eeekster> looks like we're back
01:51 < iDM|afk> Okay, goes back to his cave.
01:51 < eeekster> "This file is in the public domain, because Southern University College Lecturer Apartment Photo"
01:52 < iDM|afk> How is that PD ?
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01:52 < eeekster> it isn't
01:52 < iDM|afk> So fix it or Delete it ?
01:52 < eeekster> but he uploaded half a dozen from the same webpage with similar tags
01:53 < eeekster> delete, it's pure copyright violation
01:53 < iDM|afk> So warn the uploader, if he/she continues then block.
01:55 < eeekster> warned and all his uploads tagged
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01:59 < iDM|afk> Okie dokie
01:59 < iDM|afk> I am watching something horrible
02:01 < eeekster> horrible?
02:02 < iDM|afk> Yeah, drone missle strikes.
02:02 < eeekster> oh
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02:04  * a930913 strikes iDM|afk's drone with a missile.
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02:12 < a930913> iDM|afk: No all strikes are horrible, some are just awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrf9VsX6_4s :D
02:12 < a930913> s/No/Not/
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02:18 < SigmaWP> night
02:18 < Qcoder00> a90913: If you saw the associated damge drone strokies do, you wouldn't be as awed
02:18 < iDM> night
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02:19 < geniice> Three of the four remaining Faslane Peace Camp residents
02:19 < geniice> http://martynmclaughlin.com/2013/04/27/peace-offerings/
02:19 < a930913> Qcoder00: Isn't that the point of a strike?
02:21  * iDM snuggles geniice
02:21 < geniice> check out the photo
02:21 < SigmaWP> geniice: guten nuit
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02:26 < iDM> I should have been skunk le pew / pepe le pew rather than being s rodent ....
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02:37 < geniice> does this page cause anyone else's browser to start grinding to a halt? http://blog.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/ImmortalisedInWood.aspx
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02:39 < mareklug> geniice wfm in safari 6.0.4 on the mac
02:39 < geniice> oh it works for me its just slows things down
02:39 < mareklug> how?
02:40 < geniice> when scrolling
02:41 < geniice> in fairness this is firefox in windows
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02:42 < mareklug> scrolling is brisk
02:45 < geniice> never mind
02:45 < geniice> I've finished with it anyway
02:46 < tommorris> geniice: works fine for me on Firefox 20 for Mac
02:46 < geniice> just one of those things I guess
02:48 < geniice> Hmm I'd love to get a better photo of this but given what happened last time a brit tried to get near it we may have to accept the current one
02:48 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Stool
02:50 < closedmouth> any commons admins around?
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02:51 < geniice> yes
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02:52 < geniice> can I help?
02:52 < closedmouth> geniice: could you protect this for a day? it's on the enwp main page http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dona_Isabel.jpg
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02:53 < geniice> done but isn't there ment to be a bot to do that?
02:53 < closedmouth> yeah it runs on the toolserver :/
02:53 < closedmouth> thank you
02:55 < closedmouth> crap, i forgot mythbusters is on
02:57 < Jasper_Deng> at 3 am?
02:57  * Jasper_Deng thought it stopped airing after 2 am
02:58 < mareklug> Jasper_Deng he is like in Perth.  It's tomorrow there.
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02:58 < closedmouth> yes, at 3am, everyone's in the same timezone as you
02:59 < closedmouth> mareklug: i'm not in perth anymore
02:59 < mareklug> closedmouth not in perth, not in melbourne.  where then?
02:59 < closedmouth> eh, close enough to melbourne
02:59 < closedmouth> same general area
03:00 < mareklug> you are a suburbenite now, eh?
03:00 < closedmouth> back to it, yes
03:00 < closedmouth> unfortunately
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03:26 < iDM> wctaiwan hugs
03:27 < wctaiwan> hi iDM
03:28 < iDM> I wish you were a map maker to do my work for me. can't do anything with this kid around my boss s kid watching Pokemon
03:30 < a930913> 07:02 < SigmaWP> Next time wctaiwan comes here, poke him for me
03:30 < iDM> he is cuddly not pokeable
03:31 < wctaiwan> iDM: please respect my supersized personal bubble
03:31 < iDM> ew
03:31  * a930913 gently pokes wctaiwan's supersized personal bubble for SimgaWP.
03:32 < mareklug> wctaiwan you mean, you are wearing a conceptual body condom
03:32 < iDM> I think I make this room weirder
03:32 < wctaiwan> um, no, given that no such thing as a "body condom" exists.
03:33 < wctaiwan> no thanks for the mental image, though
03:33 < mareklug> sure there is.  I will find you an animation of one, in a Björk video no less.
03:33 < a930913> Is wikidata going to replace all numbers on wikipedia, and if so, will this make it harder to get away with vandalising an article by changing a few digits around?
03:33 < iDM> oh Jesus why did come back. going to have wctai and sigma nightmares
03:33 < eeekster> ouch
03:34 < geniice> wctaiwan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zentai
03:34 < mareklug> wctaiwan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKSoBJ8WirE  "I miss you" official video, Björk
03:34 < wctaiwan> I'm not going to click, I think. (re geniice)
03:34 < geniice> iDM hey be fair sigma have made some good lenses of late
03:34 < geniice> wctaiwan	basicaly SFW
03:34 < mareklug> wctaiwan it is a very well done animation/video/song.  don't be silly.
03:35 < iDM> oki brb back to work
03:35 < iDM> maybe ill finish one map
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03:36 < wctaiwan> mareklug: not my style.
03:36 < mareklug> wctaiwan fine, but do watch the entire thing.
03:37 < wctaiwan> some point in the middle she started clearing her throat and I closed it >.>
03:38 < mareklug> wctaiwan you might like this better, all it has is robots http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjAoBKagWQA   "All is full of love"  Björk
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03:40 < wctaiwan> meh.
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03:44 < mareklug> wctaiwan well then.  Perhaps this reworking of a musical hit will do ya.  Video by Spike Jonze.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htobTBlCvUU  "It's Oh So Quiet", Björk
03:44 < wctaiwan> I think I'm just going to pass on Bjork.
03:44 < mareklug> wctaiwan did you even try this last one?
03:44 < wctaiwan> nope
03:45 < mareklug> wctaiwan pity.  you are very closedminded.
03:45 < wctaiwan> and you aren't? on matters other than music, that is.
03:45 < wctaiwan> and I clicked. I still don't like it.
03:45 < mareklug> no.  I try things.
03:46 < closedmouth> i generally find the more insistent you are with music, the more resistant the person gets
03:46 < mareklug> closedmouth he ate up Gryphon.
03:47 < wctaiwan> http://i.imgur.com/rQnP0.png heh, that one's pretty good.
03:47 < closedmouth> the more somebody recommends me something, the less likely i am to check it out
03:47 < wctaiwan> from what little I gather it seems to be a classic german nightmare.
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04:11 < a930913> Why don't we ban accounts where the first edit is a vandal, as a vandal only account?
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04:23 < NotASpy> hey hey hey kids
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04:41 < iDM> a930913, you want to look at something, not related to Wikipedia though.
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04:42 < iDM> a930913, http://tinyurl.com/d9obpdx
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04:49 < NotASpy> iDM: the children, won't someone think of the children.
04:50 < iDM> I forget sometimes this isn't the bar.
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04:55 < a930913> iDM: Parents these days, eh?
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04:56 < iDM> a930913, Wouldn't know, I was brought up in a political and dictatorship/military family.
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04:59 < a930913> iDM: So then surely you'd appreciate the failures of this generations' parents?
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05:01 < iDM|AFK> All not bad, a dancer's kids ended up being a doctor.
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05:17 < Qcoder00> a930913:  Just be glad it's not Cobservpedia
05:17 < Qcoder00> *Conservpedia
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05:17 < Qcoder00> Getting banned from there is REALLY easy
05:17 < Qcoder00> ;)
05:17 < NotASpy> Cobservpedia sounds fun, is it all about Corn-on-the-cob ?
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05:18 < Qcoder00> NotASpy:  It's an encylopedia on Buldings conservation ;)
05:18 < tommorris> If you are editing Conservapedia and haven't gotten banned, you are doin' it wrong.
05:18 < Ryulong> can a computer generated model of the Beatles' Yellow Submarine ever be a free image
05:18 < Ryulong> or has freedom of panorama extended into the digital realm
05:18 < iDM|AFK> Hm maybe
05:18 < iDM|AFK> If you made it yourself?
05:18 < tommorris> Conservapedia may be the only place on the planet that thinks that 'Gay Bowel Disease' is actually a thing, and that the main problem with the Bible is that it's not right wing enough.
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05:19 < Ryulong> iDM|AFK but is it still not a derivative work
05:19 < Qcoder00> What exactly is Gay Bowel Disease?
05:19 < Ryulong> because years ago I had Jimbo reverting me over the use of a real world van mocked up to look like Scooby Doo's Mystery Machine because it was a derivative work
05:19 < NotASpy> Got banned from Larry Sanger's hamster powered encyclopedia contraption. It was either the lack of sufficient letters after my name (at that time, SOB was about it) or the fact I pissed on his parade with [[Charles Frederick Field]].
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05:20 < iDM|AFK> I blocked jimbo from my facebook :P when I had one
05:23 < iDM|AFK> Ryulong, ask in commons too maybe?
05:26 < NotASpy> Yeah, I can't see any way in which a digital recreation could pass any originality threshold.
05:26 < tommorris> Qcoder00: see Conservapedia. Doctors hypothesised in the 50s and 60s that gay men must have some weird disease. But, y'know, it is just a byproduct of getting fucked a bit too much without lube and isn't a disease. Only Conservapedia still believe it is a disease and that there's a grand conspiracy to suppress it because OMG THE GAY AGENDA
05:27 < tommorris> NotASpy: Oh, Citizendium. Fun times. I used to be on the equivalent of ArbCom at Citizendium. It's another part of my life I'm trying to forget.
05:27 < Qcoder00> tommorris:  ROFL
05:27 < Qcoder00> tommorris:  Like there is a liberal conspiracy to deny the existence of inteligent design?
05:27 < Qcoder00> XD
05:27 < Ryulong> I tried to fix a factual error on a chemistry article on Conservapedia and got reverted
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05:29 < NotASpy> who broke Conservapedia. Is it a Liberal conspiracy preventing me from looking at Gay Bowel Disease ?
05:29 < NotASpy> Ryulong: oh, do tell.
05:30 < Ryulong> it was like one word on the page on Solutions
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05:31 < a930913> WP:SPAM ban needed? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rrvishewar
05:31 < NotASpy> nope.
05:31  * NotASpy whistles
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05:32 < a930913> NotASpy: Sock? :p
05:33 < NotASpy> dunno, blocked as a SPAM only account.
05:33 < a930913> Oh good.
05:34 < NotASpy> I want conservapedia back. :-(
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05:39 < iDM|AFK> I just realized, had I edited with my username on Wikipedia, I had like 2000+ edits.
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05:40 < kuzetsa> NotASpy: conservapedia is gone?
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05:41 < NotASpy> 500 Server Error.
05:41 < kuzetsa> huh
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05:43 < ChrisGualtieri> bored >.>;
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05:43 < SoapX> want something to do?
05:44 < ChrisGualtieri> Sure
05:44 < SoapX> try eating a teaspoon of cinnamon
05:44 < ChrisGualtieri> No
05:44 < SoapX> it tastes awesome and youll be able to feel the aftertaste for hours afterwards
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05:44 < ChrisGualtieri> I want to fix these thousands of errors I have cued up, but I don't want to piss people off again
05:44 < SoapX> *queued
05:45 < ChrisGualtieri> True.
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05:45 < iDangerMouse> SoapX, when are you retireing ?
05:45 < SoapX> from Wikipedia? Never
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05:45 < iDangerMouse> Want to bet on that?
05:46 < SoapX> sure, but I wont really have any way to collect on the bet will I?
05:46 < SoapX> unless you want to meet me in the afterlife
05:46 < iDangerMouse> Or, I'll send you the cheque, by my 65th birthday.
05:46 < SoapX> ok
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05:47 < iDangerMouse> 500 Canadian Dollars?
05:47 < iDangerMouse> I'll convert that value to your local currency.
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05:48 < SoapX> sure
05:48 < SoapX> though I dont know ho old you are
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05:48 < SoapX> so it might be worht a lot less then. But sure
05:49 < iDangerMouse> I am in my 20s, so no worries, you're on.
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05:50 < SoapX> look at all those people who left when Bradford joined
05:51 < iDangerMouse> I have that troll on my permanent ignore list.
05:53 < TOS> Whose bradford?
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05:54 < NotASpy> It's a city in Northern England.
05:54 < NotASpy> It trolls on IRC with limited success.
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05:55 < iDangerMouse> DJ Malik or something
05:55 < iDangerMouse> Cream trolled me on IRC the other day.
05:56 < NotASpy> Cream is marginally better at it than Bradford
05:56 < NotASpy> hmm, Baker, Bruce and Clapton.
05:56 < iDangerMouse> And Carly?
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05:59 < NotASpy> an interesting response to a block notice, a930913 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rrvishewar&diff=prev&oldid=554878301
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06:00 < a930913> NotASpy: :o
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06:09 < a930913> Awesomeness. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=554881719&oldid=554881218 (edit summary)
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06:12 < ChrisGualtieri> That's not a typo fix >.>
06:13 < a930913> ChrisGualtieri: Shh. At least they fixed the brackets.
06:14 < a930913> Am I correct in remembering seeing a way to link to a revid from a [[link]]?
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06:15 < SoapX> no you cant do that
06:15 < SoapX> you can make an external link and then hide the "arrow" with CSS to make it look like a normal 2-bracket [[link]] though
06:16 < SoapX> actually I think maybe it even does that automatically
06:16 < SoapX> let me check
06:16 < a930913> SoapX: This is for an edit summary.
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06:17 < a930913> SoapX: And the CSS for letting external internal links look like internal links got misplaced in 2010.
06:17 < SoapX> nope, not automatically
06:18 < SoapX> what purposely they took it out so people couldnt do it?
06:18 < SoapX> I can see the rationale for that
06:19 < a930913> SoapX: No, TheDJ moved from monobook.css to common.css, but misplaced .plainlinks2
06:19 < SoapX> sloppy DJ.
06:19 < a930913> And it's been missing ever since.
06:19 < SoapX> And no one cleaned up after him in the last three years?
06:20 < SoapX> anyway I dont know what happens in an edit summary
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06:23 < tommorris> cripes, there's lots of RFPP requests.
06:23 < ChrisGualtieri> Do I need to be an admin to perform proper merges?
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06:24 < tommorris> ChrisGualtieri: you need admins for history merges
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06:24 < ChrisGualtieri> Well.. there goes that idea >.>
06:25 < tommorris> just paste it here and ask an admin. I'm sure I can find a minute or two to do it.
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06:27 < iDM|Annoyed> Jetro, I hate you.
06:28 < iDM|Annoyed> I went back to work from Sunday.
06:28 < Jetro> Oh.
06:28 < Jetro> My thing worked then.
06:28 < Jetro> : |
06:28 < Jetro> What happened?
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06:28 < iDM|Annoyed> Get messages on your phone, and email, and what not emergency. Get back to work.
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06:30 < iDM|Annoyed> Oh noes Fluffernutter. (Hides)
06:30  * Fluffernutter roars
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06:30 < Jetro> rr.
06:30 < Jetro> emergency?
06:30 < iDM|Annoyed> Yes, my work requires me to be on 24/7 stand-by.
06:30 < tommorris> woop, it's a Fluffernutter. be afraid.
06:31 < iDM|Annoyed> That's what I said.....
06:31 < SoapX> hi fwuffy
06:31 < Jetro> what work?
06:31 < iDM|Annoyed> SoapX, so I should contact you on your userpage on Wikipedia then. For our bet right?
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06:32 < iDM|Annoyed> Jetro, Embassy work :)
06:32 < Jetro> :O
06:33 < Jetro> cool7
06:33 < Jetro> WHY DO I ALWAYS DROP THE Q TIP CASE ON THE FLOOR
06:33 < Jetro> SHIT
06:33 < Jetro> HOLY WALDPLSAEFL"¤!¤!"¤Æ*
06:33 < iDM|Annoyed> "Q TIP" ?
06:33 < Jetro> yes
06:33 < Jetro> YES
06:33 < SoapX> is that really that bad of a catastrophe
06:33 < Jetro> *
06:33 < Jetro> Yes
06:33 < Jetro> I'm not bothering picking them up
06:33 < Jetro> >_>
06:33 < iDM|Annoyed> Cotton swab?
06:33 < Jetro> The floor is all sorts of dirty
06:33 < SoapX> like do Q Tips penetrate your feet when you step on them or something
06:33 < SoapX> oh
06:33 < Jetro> Yeah cotton swab
06:34 < Jetro> No they don't
06:34 < Jetro> Don't you know the word q-tip? I've even heard it in America
06:34 < iDM|Annoyed> Collect your ear wax, clean your war with it.
06:34 < Jetro> your war
06:34 < iDM|Annoyed> *car
06:34 < Jetro> :D
06:34 < iDM|Annoyed> I am eating, typos accepatble.
06:34 < Jetro> Not when ebmassy
06:35 < iDM|Annoyed> Dude, I had people writing instead of FILE, FIEL
06:35 < Jetro> h me gof
06:35 < Jetro> gosa
06:35 < Jetro> d
06:35 < Jetro> asd
06:35 < Jetro> see I can't write myself
06:35 < iDM|Annoyed> It's a wonderful world.
06:35 < Jetro> Today's Tuesday.
06:36 < Jetro> That means the bug-catching contest is on today.
06:36 < Jetro> :DDD
06:36 < iDM|Annoyed> speaking of which, brb need to email someone.
06:36  * Jetro plays 
06:36 < Jetro> "Mr Wang, the deal won't go through."
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06:39 < iDM|Annoyed> Nooooo, just an old friend I am her kids' god father, I know poor kids.
06:39 < iDM|Annoyed> *kid
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06:41 < Fae> I see I'm being trolled on Jimmy's en.wp talk page, even though I have not edited en.wp since last Summer. It does not really encourage me to start editing again, though I guess that's the point of it, to keep dangerous people like me away.
06:41 < Jetro> Sounds about right
06:41 < iDM|Annoyed> The Norwegian authorities have refused an application by the mass killer, Anders Breivik, to form a fascist organisation from his prison cell, saying he provided them with insufficient paperwork.
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06:42 < Jetro> -_-
06:42 < iDM|Annoyed> Fae, I am you're quiet harmless....
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06:43 < iDM|Annoyed> Jetro, Whats the GST rate in Norway?
06:43 < Jetro> the what rate
06:43 < iDM|Annoyed> General Sales Tax
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06:44 < iDM|Annoyed> 15% ? or 17
06:44 < iDM|Annoyed>  VAT I think is 25%.
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06:45 < iDM|Annoyed> Never mind :P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Norway is accurate.
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06:46 < ChrisGualtieri> Dcoetzee?
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06:46 < Jetro> 24 isn't it?
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06:46 < Jetro> I dunno
06:46 < SoapX> i see nothing about Fae on the talk page
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07:00 < Fae> SoapX: It was Tarc being a dick, as usual. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=554881318
07:00 < SoapX> yeah, sorry, I found that after a bit
07:00 < SoapX> i expected a whole section
07:01 < Fae> Nah, I'm a nobody these days. The trolls won.
07:02 < SoapX> looooool
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07:03 < SoapX> I just got an ad for Verizon Wireless which showed me a bunch of great phones and then said "Hurry, Sale ends May 12th"
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07:12 < a930913> SoapX: Quick! Get the time machine ready.
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07:13 < NotASpy> fire up the DeLorean. Oh wait, it was built in Britain so the battery is flat and it's leaking oil all over the driveway...
07:13 < Siv> Northern Ireland
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07:53 < a930913> IRC should have been written with UDP >.>
07:53 < Fluffernutter> yes hello this is sandwich
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08:00 < SoapX> i wonder if google knows what wikipedia articles i visit
08:01 -!- James_F|Away is now known as James_F
08:01 < SoapX> i heard someone allege that Chrome sends a list of all the URLs you access to Google
08:02 < a930913> SoapX: Google know everything. Get over it :p
08:02 < Theo10011> That would be one hell of a lot of URLs.
08:02 < a930913> Theo10011: And indexing the internet isn't?
08:03 < Theo10011> idk, prob. not in the same league, if you imagine every chrome user would be opening hundreds of thousands of URLs.
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08:04 < SoapX> i just ask because YouTube recommended I susbscribe to a channel called "Numberphile" which I dont know how theyd ever come up with that if they werent watching me read those pages about prime numbers  on Wikipedia a few days ago
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08:07 < a930913> Theo10011: Even I, with over 100 tabs, won't be getting through hundreds of thousands of URLs any time soon.
08:08 < Theo10011> a week?
08:08 < Theo10011> I think it might be possible in a month though
08:08 < Theo10011> but anyway
08:08 < Theo10011> I need coffee
08:08 < Theo10011> I'm not sure why people are so paranoid about google
08:11 < SoapX> google was responsible for the 9/11 airplane hijackings
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08:14 < happarappa> Any Mr. Bean fans around who might be able to help me determining which episode it was (out of the 14 originals that exist) where he hears some kind of noise (possibly a human) and looks around trying to determine from where it comes?
08:14 < a930913> Lol. Google is responsible for everything.
08:14 < happarappa> At first I thought it was in the church, in the first episode, but I just watched through it and I can't see it. I remember those particular few seconds as extremely funny.
08:15  * a930913 buzzes like a fly at happarappa.
08:15 < happarappa> a930913: ?
08:15 < a930913> happarappa: Picnic.
08:15 < happarappa> Was it really that one?
08:15 < a930913> No.
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08:15 < happarappa> Hmm... I remember it as indoors.
08:15 < a930913> I was just making Bean humour.
08:16 < happarappa> But I do remember that the pastry he's eating at the picnic looks so delicious.
08:16 < a930913> I can't recall seeing that.
08:16 < happarappa> I will instantly remember it when I see it, but my memory has a habit of changing things around.
08:17 < happarappa> I think it's a person who has a funny voice, or maybe coughes or does some noise.
08:17 < happarappa> And he looks around trying to see where it comes from.
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08:17 < happarappa> Could be in the cinema.
08:17 < a930913> Hmm, does actually ring a bell...
08:17 < happarappa> The humour, to me, is derived from how completely oblivious he is to the fact it's a human being.
08:17 < happarappa> Who couldn't possibly be under his seat, etc.
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08:21 < Dcoetzee> Btw if anyone hasn't seen this visualization yet http://rcmap.hatnote.com/#en
08:21 < Dcoetzee> Wikipedia Recent Changes real time map
08:21 < Dcoetzee> Is pretty neat
08:21 < nonsenseferret> any admins around?
08:21 < Dcoetzee> nonsenseferret: What's up?
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08:22 < nonsenseferret> got a helper in -help needs some advice re on wiki harrasment
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08:22 < nonsenseferret> sorry helpee in -help
08:22 < Theo10011> Dcoetzee, that's awesome.
08:22 < Theo10011> who made that?
08:23 < Dcoetzee> "Stephen LaPorte and Mahmoud Hashemi"
08:23 < Dcoetzee> Click About in upper right corner for more info
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08:24 < wctaiwan> good for antivandalism, anyway :p
08:24 < Dcoetzee> Sort of :-P It does a lot of filtering
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08:25 < a930913> Nice use of websockets :)
08:25 < Dcoetzee> :-)
08:26 < Dcoetzee> This is IP edits only
08:26 < a930913> Dcoetzee: Is it yours?
08:26 < Dcoetzee> So maybe it actually is good for antivandalism
08:26 < Dcoetzee> No
08:26 < Dcoetzee> This would probably be more impressive if I didn't know that like 50% of these edits are vandalism
08:27 < a930913> It's a neat trick, but how does theat help a CV?
08:27 < a930913> s/theat/that/
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08:27 < wctaiwan> a930913: I would like to congratulate you for having a productive perspective on everything >.>
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08:28 < wctaiwan> I'd have been more idealistic if I weren't in that sort of situation myself >.<
08:28 < Dcoetzee> It's mainly intended to just show off Wikipedia editing in real time to the layman
08:28 < Dcoetzee> In principle you might observe geographically localized groups of vandals using it
08:28 < Dcoetzee> Like friends from a town
08:28  * IShadowed snorts
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08:29 < a930913> Dcoetzee: Yeah, just need to zoom-enhance :D
08:29  * iDM pokes Isarra 
08:29  * a930913 pokes iDM.
08:30 < Isarra> Hello.
08:31 < iDM> Isarra, Long time! Want a hug and oreos?
08:31 < NotASpy> never gave me fuckin Oreos. Git.
08:32 < iDM> a930913, I finished  the stupid map for work 30 min ago. My eyes ache.
08:32 < wctaiwan> russavia: http://i.imgur.com/YULxKJW.jpg
08:32 < iDM> NotASpy, But I gave you a hug, Jameson, and Guinness.
08:33 < iDM> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jameson_Irish_Whiskey
08:36 < a930913> Oh cool, RC IRC feed on websocket: http://wikimon.hatnote.com/en/
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08:36 < iDM> wikimon ?
08:37  * Isarra hugs iDM and doesn't let go.
08:37 < a930913> iDM: Wikipedia monitor I guess.
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08:38  * iDM hugs Isarra back. The sis I never had.
08:38 < iDM> a930913, I am sick of Pokemon, my boss' kid was watching it on my iPad, delayed all my stupid work.
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08:40 < a930913> Pika pika!
08:40  * iDM bangs head on his desk.
08:40  * a930913 pretends to zap iDM with bolts of electricity from his cheeks.
08:41  * iDM feels like accidently gone into a gay bar, and being hit on.
08:41 < wctaiwan> peculiar pastime is peculiar
08:41 < wctaiwan> ugh, I need to work
08:41 < iDM> Yes you do.
08:42 < a930913> wctaiwan: Ask an op to ban you temporarily, so you are forced to work :p
08:42 < wctaiwan> lol, I'm not 12 anymore >.>
08:42 < iDM> Or do manual labour?
08:42 < iDM> No internet required.
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08:43 < SoapX> hi Tas
08:44 < iDM> SoapX, If Wikipedia dies, and you are forced to retire, does that count as retirement?
08:45 < SoapX> nope
08:45 < SoapX> retiring is me voluntarily walking away
08:45 < SoapX> you might as well just give me the $500 now because there's no way Im gonna do that
08:46 < SoapX> unless someone else offers me $1000 to say Yes to retirement or something
08:46 < iDM> We shall see, and I am keeping word. I've made it legalized in my bank statement.
08:46 < SoapX> ok
08:46 < iDM> *it
08:46 < SoapX>  besides it wuld help me pay rent next month
08:47 < iDM> Called having a girlfriend to help out or a roomie :D
08:48 < SoapX> lol, no
08:48 < SoapX> that would be quite a nice girlfriend
08:49 < iDM> Um, mine did that :P
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08:56 < iDM> Jetro, welcome back muffin
08:56 < Jetro> thanks sugar
08:56 < Jetro> I went biking around a bit :D
08:56 < Jetro> bikes are brilliant
08:57 < iDM> So are pies
08:57 < Jetro> well
08:57 < Jetro> not for your health
08:57 < Jetro> what's with all the guests?
08:57 < iDM> No think about it, 1 hour of biking, a nice warm shower, sitting down, having Irish Coffee, and a blueberry pie.
08:58 < iDM> Be our guest put are service to the test - Beauty and the Beast.
08:58 < Jetro> I have a nice vanilla shake here that I got :D
08:58 < Jetro> you're not |annoyed any more then?
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08:58 < iDM> I think a little bit tipsy.
08:59 < iDM> Got bagipes playing.
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09:00 < Jetro> hm
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09:04 < a930913> IRC office hours live at #wikimedia-office
09:04 < iDM|AFK> Back to work.
09:04 < iDM|AFK> Cant.
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09:05 < Jetro> cannot.. work..
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09:17 < SoapX> i want a good name for a company that produces lemon-lime soda
09:17 < SoapX> like a pun on Sprite or something
09:17 < SoapX> this is for a fictional world
09:17 < iDM|AFK> Iranian?
09:18 < SoapX> maybe just Pixel
09:18 < SoapX> lame but its onbly going to be seen once
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09:18 < wctaiwan> I don't think people will get it.
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09:19 < TheDruId> 'Pixie'?
09:20  * iDM|AFK snuggles TheDruId 
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09:20 < SoapX> yeah I was thinking of hinting at Pixie by using Pixel, but it's probably better the other way around
09:21 < SoapX> maybe a pixelated pixie
09:21 < SoapX> i thuink pixel is a already a pun anyway
09:21 < TheDruId> 'Spleft?
09:22 < SoapX> lol
09:22 < SoapX> Im gonna stick with Pixie
09:22 < SoapX> thanks
09:22 < iDM> Pixie?
09:22 < SoapX> a blond fairy with green clothing will be the logo
09:22 < iDM> For a lemonade ?
09:23 < SoapX> no wait, green wings
09:23 < iDM> What on earth are you doing? Selling lemonade on WoW?
09:23 < Theo10011> sounds trippy
09:23 < Theo10011> or irish
09:23 < SoapX> its for a video game Ive been developing as a hobby
09:23 < iDM> Okay
09:24 < happarappa> Tinkerbell is hot.
09:24 < happarappa> I wanted to have her as my pet when I was a kid.
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09:25 < SoapX> yeahi guess
09:25 < SoapX> http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6200000/Tinkerbell-Wallpaper-tinkerbell-6227161-1024-768.jpg
09:26 < SoapX> my fairy wont look too much like that though
09:27 < happarappa> That's fan art, though.
09:27 < happarappa> She looks juicier in the movie.
09:27 < closedmouth> argh
09:27 < closedmouth> anyone else's scripts not loading?
09:28 < iDM> Man wikipedia is weird, and I am being blamed for making IRC weird.
09:30 < TheDruId> iDM, snuggling aside, IRC really isn't weird.
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09:31 < iDM> So does that mean you just snuggled me back?
09:33 < TheDruId> iDM, sorry, not a snuggler, myself.
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09:34 < iDM> Indeed, robots don't have emotions.
09:35 < iDM> David_Stevenson, How are you? Got any sleep
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09:36 < David_Stevenson> yes :p
09:36 < iDM> Sexy.
09:36 < David_Stevenson> but that's mostly because I had liquor which makes me sleepy
09:37 < iDM> With the cat?
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09:38 < David_Stevenson> what cat? o_o
09:39 < iDM> Get one, they are amazing
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09:40 < David_Stevenson> I have too many cats, and they keep leaving kittens under my house which I have to retrieve
09:40 < David_Stevenson> so I have enough
09:41 < iDM> Ok
09:41 < NotASpy> mad old cat man.
09:41 < iDM> Old? I thought he was 17
09:43 < David_Stevenson> you thought I was 17?
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09:44 < iDM> Yes.
09:44 < NotASpy> laters, play nicely everybody or Thehelpfulone will confiscate your ball.
09:44 < David_Stevenson> I'm 24
09:44 < iDM> I thought he does something else.
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09:46 < iDM> I am still older than you :D
09:46 < David_Stevenson> well that's okay
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09:47 < iDM> You remind me of xavex something... for having too many cats.
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09:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> death toll rises to 50
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09:48 < David_Stevenson> I won't soon enough, if they are captured
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09:49 < Qcoder00> ?
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09:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug sure
09:49 < iDM> Sony unveils waterproof Xperia ZR phone
09:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> "youngest victim of the massacre"
09:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> rather cheesy, I agree :)
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09:51 < Writ_Keeper> yo, anyone know of a way to tell how many pages a user script is imported on?
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09:51 < Writ_Keeper> assuming there's no linkback
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09:52 < TheDruId> The number of pet shouldn't exceed the number of people by more than one; communal fish tanks = 1. Breaking my own rule.
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09:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> TheDruId one pet a day keeps the doctor away
09:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> as you are too busy tending to their needs to care about your own health
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09:54 < TheDruId> Actually, I've gotten healthier lugging food and litter for them, and making sure they have food, water, and a clean box.
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10:00 < SoapX> guys i think AntiSpamMeta is spamming
10:00 < Rifleman_82> hi all
10:00 < SoapX> we should report him to AntiSpamMeta
10:00 < Rifleman_82> can someone take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/OneMadScientist
10:02 < TheDruId> Erm, okay...?
10:03 < Writ_Keeper> what about it?
10:03 < Writ_Keeper>  /them?
10:03 < Rifleman_82> I'm trying to figure out whether he should be blocked for harrassing other users
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10:04 < Rifleman_82> He's been warned a few times but because he's visited my talk page too, I'm not in a hurry to do that
10:04 < Writ_Keeper> eh, I would say not unless it leaves his talkpage again
10:05 < Writ_Keeper> if he wants to dick around in his userspace, I can't say I really care, personally
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10:05 < Rifleman_82> he's at Plasmic_Physics and DMacks
10:05 < TheDruId> Appears to be a surreal response to an unintelligible conversation, so I'll summarise with a two word quote from Douglas Adams, "Mostly harmless."
10:05 < Rifleman_82> and he's attacking Plasmic_Physics using his own userpage
10:05 < Rifleman_82> i mean, that could easily be a db-attack
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10:06 < Writ_Keeper> it's a judgement call
10:06 < Writ_Keeper> i'd say no, personally
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10:06 < Writ_Keeper> unless plasmic physics says it bothers them directly
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10:07 < TheDruId> I'd be more concerned with the similarity of user names, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mad_Scientist
10:07 < Rifleman_82> well plasmic has been complaining about it
10:07 < Writ_Keeper> has he?
10:07 < Writ_Keeper> where?
10:07 < Writ_Keeper> (i hadn't checked whether he had or hadn't)
10:07 < Rifleman_82> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DMacks#Cypenamine_incident
10:09 < SoapX> oh Plasmic_Physics is a name
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10:10 < SoapX> I do not enjoy or desire to insult, or belittle people, and apologize to all those I may have misinterpreted, misunderstood, unjustifiably offended, insulted and or have acted in an arrogant or hurtful manner to.
10:10 < SoapX>                         With the exception of USER:Plasmic Physics
10:10 < SoapX> yeah thats a bit offputting
10:11 < Rifleman_82> yeah
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10:11 < Rifleman_82> that's why i was thinking db-attack
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10:14 < SoapX> Im pretty sure Ive seen worse stuff than that be allowed, and we should also consider that OneMadScientist has only been here for 6 days
10:15 < Qcoder00> Is he actualy MAD?
10:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> OneMadScientist is definately one
10:15 < SoapX> hes mad as in angry
10:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> not necesarily mad
10:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> everyone on wikipedia is mad
10:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Multiple Attachment Disorder?
10:17 < mareklug> Jetro  and fuck you too, you impolite oaf.
10:17 < Qcoder00> hi mareklug
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10:17 < closedmouth> wut
10:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug so that was the translation :(
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10:17 < mareklug> Jetro the favor I asked you for btw has been taken care of and the item is on my way to me.  so fuck off x2
10:17 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko yeah.  I guess no infants died.
10:18 < mareklug> Qcoder00 hi Qc.
10:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> she was killed
10:18 < Rifleman_82> SoapX: yes perhaps, but on the other hand, we shouldn't tolerate this behavior
10:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> given its an explosion in peices probably
10:18 < Rifleman_82> and he has been harrassing quite a few users
10:18 < Jetro> mareklug: So "fuck off" because you didn't bother to do your own work? xD
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10:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> my only hope that it was painless
10:18 < mareklug> Jetro no fuck you for last.fm without so much as a notice
10:19 < Jetro> I noticed you
10:19 < Jetro> on this very channel the moment it happened
10:19 < wctaiwan> mareklug: would you care for a cup of tea and a sit down?
10:19 < Jetro> and maybe a chill pill
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10:19 < mareklug> Jetro from today on, you are not a Norwegian to me.  I will throw my Norwegianness to Migrant.  You are nothing.
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10:19 < Jetro> If I was nothing, could I type here?
10:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> in other news f-16 missing at the syrian border
10:19 < mareklug> wctaiwan I am sitting down.  And I will have some milk.
10:20 < mareklug> Jetro you are a nothing that types here (NtTH)
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10:21  * iDangerMouse sings for mareklug my milkshakes bring the boys to the yard..
10:21 < mareklug> iDangerMouse are you on last.fm?
10:21 < iDangerMouse> Nope.
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10:22 < mareklug> I suppose listening to western music might be dangerous
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10:22 < iDangerMouse> I have 125Gb of music from all over but Indian music.
10:22 < wctaiwan> I don't think you can get much more westernised than iDangerMouse.
10:22 < wctaiwan> all that living in canada and eating pizza and calling yourself britney spears
10:22 < wctaiwan> it rubs off
10:23 < mareklug> wctaiwan no, but he has to VPN just to watch YouTube, and Last.fm is perceived as another western evil
10:23 < iDangerMouse> I have 3 VPNs, 5 static IPs, and ulimited DHCPs.
10:23 < wctaiwan> it's evil in that the service is severely curtailed here.
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10:24 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko whose f-16?
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10:24 < TheDruId> The only music I've added in the last 5 years is Symphony of Science.
10:24 < mareklug> TheDruId you are on last.fm?
10:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug turkish it seems
10:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they did find the wrekage
10:24 < iDangerMouse> I don't share my taste of music :P
10:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it being at the syrian border is a concern
10:24 < TheDruId> mareklug, not at all.
10:24 < SoapX> last.fm is blocked in some countries??
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10:25 < iDangerMouse> Haven't checked. I am on VPN most of the time. Doesn't bother me.
10:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oh and death toll is 50 now
10:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> SoapX sure, north korea for example
10:25 < wctaiwan> iDangerMouse: not even the speed?
10:25 < SoapX> well i was thinking of modern countries
10:25 < mareklug> SoapX are you on last.fm?
10:25 < SoapX> eg Taiwan
10:25 < iDangerMouse> My normal speed is 4Mbps
10:26 < iDangerMouse> With VPN I get 3.5 Mbps
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10:26 < SoapX> but I wasnt sure if I was just misundestanding
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10:26 < wctaiwan> SoapX: it's not blocked here, but they don't have deals with the big labels to stream stuff here, so last time I checked you could only listen to indie music
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10:27 < wctaiwan> we do have subscription based services from two local companies, and as of last year (or maybe this year), iTunes Music Store
10:27 < wctaiwan> on the other hand, hulu and pandora and vevo and such remain entirely unavailable :/
10:28 < SoapX> aw
10:28 < SoapX> does that mean YouTube videos that are Vevo are also unavilable?
10:28 < SoapX> e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3W6yf6c-FA
10:28 < SoapX> can that not be viewed at all ?
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10:29 < SoapX> because thse are the best music videos on all of youtube
10:30 < wctaiwan> nope, Vevo videos on YouTube generally work.
10:30 < wctaiwan> it's the site that doesn't.
10:30 < SoapX> coooool
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10:39 < happarappa> Do pianos like this exist in real life? http://i.imgur.com/hibFgQG.jpg
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10:40 < mareklug> happarappa yes.  you can see them in lobbies of hospitals, playing unattended
10:40 < mareklug> the keys move, too.
10:40 < happarappa> Is it like a modern version of the classic Western self-playing piano?
10:41 < happarappa> Does it only work with a specially formatted CD-ROM disc, or any music?
10:41 < mareklug> ues,but the old one was programmed by a paper roll with perforations.
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10:41 < happarappa> I mean, does it play back stuff with loudspeakers, or does it just get "programming" from the disc?
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10:42 < happarappa> I assume the latter.
10:42 < happarappa> The former would be way too cheap and pointless.
10:42 < mareklug> happarappa I don't know off hand, but I suspect the music actually in most cases comes from the acoustic mechanical action of the hammers striking the strings.  It's just that the piano has a converter that takes the score and makes the keys move.
10:43 < mareklug> of course there may be just speaker units
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10:43 < mareklug> you should google this
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10:43 < IDoH> hi
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10:43 < happarappa> I have no idea what you mean by that.
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10:44 < mareklug> happarappa "[12:42:52] <mareklug>	 happarappa I don't know off hand, but I suspect the music actually in most cases comes from the acoustic mechanical action of the hammers striking the strings.  It's just that the piano has a converter that takes the score and makes the keys move."  <-- this?
10:44 < Qcoder00> happarappa:  Porgramming
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10:44 < Qcoder00> *Programming... Probably MIDI
10:44 < happarappa> No... by the "google" thing.
10:44 < iDangerMouse> This is getting rather annoying.
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10:45 < mareklug> happarappa  http://bit.ly/126j8eY
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10:46 < happarappa> mareklug: Stop spamming your stupif shit.
10:46 < happarappa> *stupid
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10:47 < iDangerMouse> And that was spamming, because?
10:47 < mareklug> this was MadPig aka cheeseduck aka whatever the fuck he likes to call himself alternately.  And he got offended when I pointed him to the correct google search with Let Me Google That for You.  What a complete juvenile imbecile.
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10:48 < iDangerMouse> I am getting too old for drama on irc.
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10:48 < mareklug> this is a known troll.
10:48 < iDangerMouse> I haven't been on for a year.
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10:48 < mareklug> he gets his world information from cartoons and comes here to check it out, since he believes us.  When I unmask him, he calls me mentally ill.
10:49 < iDangerMouse> Last night, I got my pm trolled by Cream.
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10:52 < wctaiwan> mareklug: you should probably stop reacting to things so strongly though. It doesn't help.
10:52 < SoapX> hi Siv
10:52 < mareklug> wctaiwan cheeseduck or Jetro?
10:52 < Siv> hello SoapX
10:52 < wctaiwan> well, just about everything
10:52 < wctaiwan> avril lavigne, macs.
10:52 < SoapX> cellphones : )
10:52 < iDangerMouse> I haven''t even listened to Avril Lavgine ever.
10:53 < iDangerMouse> Althought I have the music.
10:54 < mareklug> wctaiwan some people are more milquetoast than others
10:54 < iDangerMouse> Just use, /ignore.
10:54 < wctaiwan> marek: sure.
10:55 < mareklug> wctaiwan The Smiths have a great lyric in this department:  "some girls are bigger than others / some girls' mothers/ are bigger than other girls' mothers"
10:56 < wctaiwan> heh.
10:57 < iDangerMouse> WWII maps are still useful, managed to uncover some stuff in Pakistan, still dates back to 1940s before parition.
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10:57 < iDangerMouse> So if you have old maps, please don't throw them away, send me a copy.
10:58 < mareklug> wctaiwan lesson I just learned from setting up a bridged network.  It degrades your connectivity with the world drastically.
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10:58 < wctaiwan> hm, never noticed it much in my VMs.
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10:59 < SoapX> course and horse come from the same Indo-European root word
10:59 < TheDruId> Wow, seems like everyone got disconnected. I thought it was just me.
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11:00 < iDM>  /ns identify djste24
11:00 < SoapX> uh oh
11:00 < iDM> woops
11:00 < SoapX> you spilled your password
11:00 < SoapX> good thing it was in #wikipedia-en where you can trust everyone
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11:00 < iDM> Changed :)
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11:00 < mareklug> only when you take GNAA logger out of the equation
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11:01 < iDM> That's true..
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11:01 < mareklug> iDM in the future do these operations off-channel in the server window and you will be safe
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11:01 < SoapX> or just make an alias. for me I just press F5 to identify
11:02 < iDM> I am not, dumb, just really tired right now.
11:02 < iDM> But, thank you.
11:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> iDM no one is dumb while doing these :)
11:03 < iDM> I've been working since Sunday 8:30 am till Monday 9:30 pm.
11:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> one act of carelessness can cost though ;)
11:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug I dont see why they cant find the pilot :/
11:04 < iDM> You mean my bloody boss, putting "FIEL" ... should have been "FILE", and that's the Embassy  document.
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11:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> iDM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiel
11:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Eric E. Fiel, a general in the United States Air Force
11:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> whom should have pursued a carrer in soccer instead
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11:05 < iDM> i don't get the joke.
11:05 < TheDruId> A) the pilot no longer remains to be found B) they're looking in the wrong place C) they do not recognise hime, even though he's in their field of view.
11:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> other two fiels are soccer players
11:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> TheDruId sos bueys?
11:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> dont they exist? :/
11:06 < TheDruId> They do, but perhaps he was already removed or departed himself.
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11:07 < iDM> I am confused.
11:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> TheDruId I dont know
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11:12 < iDM> Nigeria court rules on Iran arms shipment
11:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> what?
11:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> nigeria has a legal system that works?
11:13 < iDM> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/nigeria-court-rules-on-iran-arms-shipment/story-fn3dxix6-1226641616416
11:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> australian breaking news on nigeria and iran issues?
11:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :D
11:14 < SoapX> stereotypes
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11:15 < SoapX> apparently some distant relatives of mine are rich people in Nigeria
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11:15 < SoapX> no not the 419 scam thing
11:15 < SoapX> for real
11:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> stereotypes? nigeria is lawless
11:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> SoapX do they want money?
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11:16 < iDM> I am eating.
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11:19 < iDM> mhm last piece of pie.
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11:20 < SoapX> hmm i wonder in photoshop if itis possible to reverse the colors
11:20 < Carly> Lol
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11:21 < SoapX> e.g. blue ---> green and green ---> blue
11:21 < SoapX> i guess Channel Mixer might work
11:21 < Carly> O.O
11:21 < iDM> Never used that. Sorry. GIMP I have :P
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11:21 < iDM> Get Dcoetzee to do it maybe?
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11:22 < SoapX> yeah, that pretty much works
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11:22 < SoapX> I answered my own question. However that method wouldnt work well with less saturated colors
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11:28 < iDM> 3 more hours I can sleep.
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11:29 < Theo10011> THO?
11:30 < iDM> Working, on last co-ordinates, and these stupid navigation charts.
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11:30 < iDM> Commons got good stuff. Just for a peek.
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11:32 < iDM> Join/Part, annoying.
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11:38 < iDM> kondi, long time.
11:40 < kondi> hey iDM!
11:40 < kondi> I'm mostly around, 'tis you that's not here :P
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11:40 < iDM> True, and I won't be probably from December again. :D
11:40 < iDM> How's life? and the country?
11:42 < kondi> okay-ish.. same old, same old :)
11:43 < iDM> And shaadi? and bacha and bachee ?
11:43 < Theo10011> o.O
11:43 < Theo10011> where are you?
11:43 < iDM> Me?
11:43 < Theo10011> ya
11:44 < iDM> In my mother's womb, with my tiny fingers, typing, she gets WiFI in her belly.
11:44 < Theo10011> lol
11:44 < Theo10011> I meant those words sounded familiar ;)
11:44 < Theo10011> Urdu
11:44 < iDM> At the moment, Karachi, Pakistan. You?
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11:45 < Theo10011> The big ass neighbor
11:45 < Theo10011> India
11:45 < iDM> What part?
11:45 < Theo10011> Capital
11:46 < iDM> Well, I wish you were from Banglore :p
11:46 < Theo10011> Why?
11:46 < kondi> iDM: shaadi? lol
11:46 < Theo10011> No one worth knowing there :P
11:46 < iDM> If it was 1938 I could have been a Nawab :P
11:46 < Theo10011> lol
11:46 < Theo10011> dude, what nationality are you
11:47 < iDM> Canadian.
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11:47 < kondi> iDM: what? I thought...
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11:47 < Theo10011> good god man, a canuck would be really out of place in this part of the world
11:48 < iDM> kondi, Well that's my citizenship thus my nationality haha
11:48 < Theo10011> I used to know Mardetanha from Iran, nice guy, good steward.
11:48 < Theo10011> Haven't seen him in a while
11:48 < iDM> No clue.
11:49 < iDM> If you knew his full name, I can trace him probably.
11:49 < SoapX> Mar De Tanha
11:49 < Theo10011> nah, most I know about him is from Meta
11:49 < iDM> reality name.
11:49 < Theo10011> soap Mard-e-tanha
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11:49 < kondi> iDM, the anadian spy in Karachi!
11:49 < SoapX> aw
11:49 < Theo10011> means lonely/single man
11:49 < SoapX> must be Persian or something
11:49 < kondi> s/anadian/canadian
11:50 < Theo10011> that might be an oxymoron, canadian spy. :P
11:50 < iDM> If the dude lived in Iran, I can probably use my ICRC sourses, to see if he is alive or not.
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11:51 < iDM> Theo10011, um practically Siraj-ul-daula and nawab nazim's direct line....
11:51 < iDM> Makes me more Indian than you :P
11:51 < Theo10011> lol
11:51 < Theo10011> oh you know your shit.
11:51 < Theo10011> Nazim or Nizam?
11:51 < iDM> Nazim
11:51 < Theo10011> of bengal
11:52 < iDM> That's the one.
11:52 < Theo10011> Murshidabad
11:52 < iDM> Plassey
11:53 < Theo10011> Anyway, royal lineage is a joke here.
11:53 < Theo10011> and irrelevant
11:53 < iDM> :P
11:53 < iDM> Still makes me more Indian than you :P
11:53 < Theo10011> apart from your citizenship, prob. ;)
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11:54 < Theo10011> I don't think you'll have an easy time getting here from across the border.
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11:54 < iDM> I do.
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11:54 < darev> Hello1
11:55 < Theo10011> yes, hello
11:55 < iDM> I was in India in 2009.
11:55 < kondi> iDM: I thought you got your visa rejected o_O
11:55 < Theo10011> So you there to head over from some bachcha parties?
11:55 < kondi> err
11:56 < iDM> Nope.
11:56 < iDM> kondi, and I am working for the Embassy now :) Canadian that is.
11:56 < Theo10011> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mardetanha
11:56 < Theo10011> That's the steward BTW^
11:56 < Theo10011> iDM sweet
11:57 < kondi> iDM: awesome!
11:57 < iDM> Hang on. Calls.
11:57 < Theo10011> Anyway, Im bored again
11:58 < Theo10011> The chappelle show was brilliant and under-rated when it aired.
11:58 < Theo10011> Rick James!!!
11:59 < iDM> Back.
12:00 < iDM> kondi, so does Theo10011 take you for meetai, and sharab :P
12:00 < Theo10011> ?
12:00 < kondi> iDM: Delhi and Ahmedabad are quite far :P
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12:00 < Theo10011> who is kondi?
12:00 < kondi> kondi is free man
12:01 < kondi> *a free man
12:01 < Theo10011> sweets and alchohol......sound odd
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12:01 < iDM> No it doesn't.
12:02 < kondi> it does
12:02 < iDM> Then you don't know your wines well.
12:02 < iDM> Vin Santo, and pie.
12:02 < Theo10011> Kondi you know Anirudh?
12:02 < iDM> Irish Coffe and Pie. Which contains Jameson irish Whiskey.
12:02 < kondi> Theo10011: I do. Might meet him this weekend
12:02 < iDM> Passito di pantelleria goes well with cakes.
12:03 < Theo10011> that fuck is back already!? :P
12:03 < Theo10011> missed him
12:04 < kondi> yeah, that fuck is back! he's not here for long though
12:04 < Theo10011> ya, he's a busy busy man
12:06 < kondi> on gtalk, yes
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12:07 < Theo10011> o...k
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12:13 < Andy123> bhenchod!
12:13 < Theo10011> lol
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12:15 < kondi> Andy123: kya saala
12:15 < Theo10011> errr
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12:16 < Andy123> kondi, saari dunia ne batavanu che hun kyaan chu?
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12:17 < kondi> Andy123: su chokriveda kare che.. ahiya sara loko che ;) koi stalk nai kare
12:18 < Andy123> chal ave vahaand na kar
12:18 < Andy123> *vakhaand
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12:19 < kondi> ha bhai ha
12:20 < iDM> English!
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12:20 < Theo10011> lol
12:20 < Theo10011> you can't read that?
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12:21 < Andy123> yeah, that was pig-latin
12:22 < Theo10011> Pffttt gujaratis :P
12:22 < kondi> garvi gujaratis
12:22 < kondi> :P
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12:22 < Theo10011> han han garv kar
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12:22 < Andy123> jeetega gujarat!
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12:23 < kondi> lol
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12:24 < Andy123> Theo is from Aam Aadmi Party
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12:24 < Theo10011> Behave please.
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12:24 < kondi> whaaat
12:25 < Andy123> Yeah, he likes Anna and Kejriwal
12:25 < Theo10011> We wouldn't want to remove either of you fine upstanding racists forcefully. :P
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12:25 < iDM> .part
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12:25 < SoapX> y'all are all the same anyway
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12:26 < Theo10011> moving on......
12:26 < Theo10011>  /clear
12:26 < kondi> you're not an op
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12:26 < Andy123> dekho dekho
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12:26 < SoapX> jayflux what are you doing
12:26 < Andy123> He votes for GNAa
12:26 < Andy123> *GNAA
12:26 < Theo10011> ya jayflux its getting annoying
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12:26 < SoapX> jayflux what are you doing
12:27 < SoapX> are you here
12:27 < Andy123> banhammer
12:27 < Jayflux> I am now
12:27 < SoapX> ok
12:27 < kondi> he is! he is an op.
12:27 < SoapX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Theo10011 <--- nice userpage
12:28 < Theo10011> Thank you
12:28 < Theo10011> Courtesy of Roux
12:28 < SoapX> do the numbers mean anything though?
12:28 < Theo10011> no
12:28 < SoapX> aww
12:28 < Theo10011> that would be clever
12:28 < Theo10011> than I am
12:28 < SoapX> you should spell "TALK" in ascii with binary
12:28 < SoapX> for the talk page
12:29 < SoapX> i know that's probably a hideous amount of digits
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12:29 < Theo10011> hmm good idea
12:29 < Theo10011> But Im more on Meta these days.
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12:29 < Theo10011> Barely check en.wp
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12:30 < SoapX> ok
12:31 < Andy123> Yeah, Theo contributes on the mailing lists
12:31 < Andy123> adding to the collective wisdom of the crowd
12:31 < Theo10011> Behave please.
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12:36 < Qcoder00> http://imgur.com/gallery/Tl89L - IS this  a real bird?
12:36 < Qcoder00> Does Commons have pictures?
12:40 < QueenOfFrance> Qcoder00: [[Potoo]]
12:41 < Qcoder00> Thanks
12:41 < QueenOfFrance> looks like there's 7 birds in that familiy
12:42 < SoapX> seems like something closely related to owls
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12:43 < Theo10011> hello harej
12:43 < harej> hi theodore
12:44 < SoapX> yeah its an owl-like bird called a passerine
12:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Qcoder00 derp bird?
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12:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug so they repared the leakage on ISS
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12:55 < SoapX> k;luggy
12:55 < SoapX> wheres you go
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12:56 < IDoH> mareklug! Boo!
12:56 < mareklug> Boo?
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12:56 < IDoH> Heh, just wanted to see you react.
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13:02 < nas> How do I make a space about from |             | when the spacebar doesn't work...
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13:03 < IDoH> Your spacebar seems to be working fine, nas.
13:03 < nas> Wikipedia templates doesn't recognize the spacing.
13:03 < nas> It remains 1 space
13:04 < SoapX> try just using  
13:04 < IDoH> Oh. Heh.
13:04 < SoapX> im not sure if MediaWiki deletes that or not
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13:06 < nas> Not enough space
13:06 < nas> I don't like template:infobox
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13:09 < SoapX> maybe a div might help
13:09 < SoapX> but that gets ugly on some browsers
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13:33 < Guest60257> much better
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13:35 < Pharos> but we were so much more eclusive before
13:35 < Pharos> *exclusive
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13:50 < darev> n8
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13:52 < Maple__> #foreveralone
13:53 < Carly> #togetheralone
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13:56 < SoapX> i love xkcd
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13:57 < nas> Is {{info box}} required for info boxes?
13:57 < Maple__> uh
13:58 < nas> Because I hate it
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14:02 < a930913> nas: {{subst:info box}} :p
14:03 < Maple__> crap
14:03 < Maple__> I hate having to type 'eq'
14:03 < Maple__> why can't it just be '=='
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14:03 < a930913> Maple__: Wikiscript? We so should.
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14:04 < sid|5> heh
14:04 < sid|5> that'd be nice
14:04 < sid|5> but we already have da pywikipediabot
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14:04 < nas> Like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Daytona_500 the team is in parenthesis, when it would be much better if it was spaced away from the driver to the right, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_NASCAR_race_report
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14:09 < SoapX> http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/1303.gif
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14:11 < nas> WHOA
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14:26 < SoapX> i ♥ you too mrmist
14:27 < moogsi> >:(
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15:01 < koishi> should have named myself medieval madness
15:01 < koishi> guess i'll try one of those signature things
15:03 < bazinga> evening foks
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15:06 < mareklug> ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) - The Minnesota Senate voted Monday to make gay marriage legal, the last legislative step before Gov. Mark Dayton's promised signature will make the state the 12th in the U.S.
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15:06 < mareklug> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9239155/Google_triples_free_storage_to_15GB
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15:07 < SoapX> that silly
15:07 < mareklug> I think that is a misleading title, as my Google Drive still shows only 5GB.
15:08 < SoapX> theres a guy with an iPhone outside my bedroom window
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15:08 < SoapX> and it has *no* protective case around it
15:08 < SoapX> and hes a construction worker
15:08 < moogsi> SoapX: is he filming you?
15:08 < SoapX> should i try to sell him something?
15:09 < David_Stevenson> what do you intend on selling him?
15:09 < mareklug> sell him a protective case!
15:09 < SoapX> a phone case
15:09 < foks> SoapX, yes, an S4
15:09 < SoapX> to be honest thats what I wish my job was
15:09 < mareklug> selling phone cases?
15:09 < SoapX> instead of selling cellphones I want to work at the kiosk in the mall that just sells the accessories
15:09 < SoapX> Im sure the pay is just as good
15:09 < moogsi> do somethinwell you have to spin a lot less bullshit
15:10 < moogsi> oops
15:10 < mareklug> but Soap, the status is lesser.  You are the go-to Radio Shack wizard.
15:10 < moogsi> forgot to empty mah textfield :P
15:10 < moogsi> one day there will be something really rude in there
15:10 < SoapX> nobody really likes RadioShack, they just come because there's no other place to go
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15:10 < mareklug> SoapX I love radio shack.  When I need a motor or some such I go to RS
15:11 < SoapX> you should tell them to put it under my name then so I can make a few pennies
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15:16 < a930913> Anyone explain the link here? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A930913&diff=next&oldid=554958386
15:16 < mareklug> wow, anyone needs a printer, Canon is selling a PIXMA MX432 Wireless Office All-in-one-Printer and a bunch of ink to boot with free ground shipping for 75 bucks less a cent.  For the next hour only.   http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_302548_-1?cm_mmc=EM-_-ES-_-20130504-_-LeadIn&WT.mc_id=EM1305ES04013&RID=1-APHSLM&CON=1-OMD-2647&PRO=&CID=1-ALM2G9
15:17 < SoapX> a930913
15:17 < SoapX> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emily_Litella&diff=548406078&oldid=546876280#.22Never_mind.22
15:17 < SoapX> is the answer
15:18 < mareklug> a930913 we're talking SNL of the 1979
15:18 < a930913> SoapX: Ah.
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15:27 < SoapX> i always seem to start shivering when I havent eaten in a while
15:27 < SoapX> is that normal?
15:27 < moogsi> how long is a while? :P
15:28 < a930913> SoapX: Isn't that hypoglycemia or something?
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15:28 < SoapX> maybe it is
15:28 < SoapX> my dad's hypgolycemia
15:28 < SoapX> *hypoglycemic
15:29 < SoapX> but if youre thinking of just shaking, no, I really shiver because Im cold
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15:29 < SoapX> I dont seem to get cold very easily except when Im hungry
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15:30 < a930913> SoapX: It might just be your body running out of fuel for heating.
15:30 < moogsi> huh, shaking is a symptom of hypoglycemia.. i didn't know that
15:30 < SoapX> it definitely is
15:31 < SoapX> but not everyone who gets shaky when theyre hungry is hypoglycemic
15:31 < SoapX> or diabetic
15:31 < moogsi> no
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15:31 < SoapX> Im pretty sure I dont have hypoglycemia, though, or if so it's much milder than what my dad has
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15:32 < moogsi> can't say shakiness is a problem i have.. except in the case of a severe hangover...
15:32 < a930913> Hypoglycemia is an extreme of hungriness, no?
15:32 < moogsi> it's low blood sugar
15:32 < SoapX> hypoglycemia is just low blood sugar, but without the problems of diabetes
15:32 < a930913> As in it can be caused by not eating.
15:33 < moogsi> well, it's used for pathologcally low blood sugar, like a condition
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15:33 < moogsi> anyone can just have low blood sugar for whatever reason
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15:34 < nas> SO MANY
15:34 < nas> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Sprint_Cup&limit=500
15:34 < SoapX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia#Causes_in_Alphabetical_Order wow
15:34 < a930913> moogsi: Is hypogylcemia more specific than just low blood pressure?
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15:35 < FastLizard4> a930913: Low blood sugar
15:35 < FastLizard4> And no
15:36 < BlastHardcheese> low blood glucose ;)
15:36 < FastLizard4> Hypoglycemia is any state caused by low blood glucose levels
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15:36 < FastLizard4> BlastHardcheese: So what would it be called if you had low blood sucrose?  ;)
15:36 < moogsi> FastLizard4: normal :P
15:36 < SoapX> hyposycremia?
15:36 < FastLizard4> moogsi: Heh
15:36 < BlastHardcheese> normal homeostasis, since sucrose is not normally present in the blood :p
15:36 < SoapX> oh
15:36 < FastLizard4> Well, yes
15:36 < FastLizard4> :P
15:36 < moogsi> hopefully you don't have any sucrose in your bloodstream :)
15:37 < SoapX> i think there's at least some>
15:37 < moogsi> .. maybe
15:37 < FastLizard4> moogsi: Actually, how bad would that be?  :P
15:37 < moogsi> no idea
15:37 < FastLizard4> I'm pretty sure sucruse isn't normally found in blood
15:37 < FastLizard4> *sucrose
15:37 < FastLizard4> Only glucose is readily usable by cells for metabolization
15:38 < SoapX> i think I read about some boy  who was unable to metabolize sucrose and it built up in his blood cells and he survived but had trouble walking and bending his arms
15:38 < BlastHardcheese> well it would hydrolyze pretty quickly, but too much fructose in the bloodstream would lead to osmotic imbalance
15:39 < FastLizard4> Fructose is found in fruits, right?
15:39 < moogsi> a930913: they mean the same thing
15:39 < BlastHardcheese> and only the liver and a few other cell types can metabolize fructose, so levels would take time to fall
15:39 < addihockey10> FastLizard4: hallo1
15:39 < FastLizard4> addihockey10: Hi :)
15:39 < BlastHardcheese> FastLizard4: yes, hence the name
15:39 < FastLizard4> BlastHardcheese: Makes sense :P
15:39 < moogsi> a930913: but 'hypoglycemia' sounds more like a diagnosis to me
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15:39 < SoapX> there's fructose in the human body for sure
15:40 < SoapX> I guess not normally sucrose though
15:40 < mareklug> BlastHardcheese actually, fructose and sucrose is found in fruits.  fructose all by itself is extracted commercially usually from corn to produce High Fructose Corn Syrup.  Basically pure fructose without sucrose is ass terrible for your health.
15:40 < BlastHardcheese> but ingesting something vs. having it introduced directly to the bloodstream are two very different things, because of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_pass_effect
15:40 < mareklug> FastLizard4 ^
15:40 < FastLizard4> mareklug: mmm
15:40 < BlastHardcheese> mareklug: there is very little sucrose in most fruits
15:41 < BlastHardcheese> and corn syurp is almost entirely glucose; HFCS is made by converting some of the glucose to fructose with enzymes
15:41 < mareklug> BlastHardcheese try not to dissemninate obviously false info.  http://www.livestrong.com/article/293125-sucrose-levels-in-fruit/
15:42 < BlastHardcheese> oh hey that's interesting
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15:43 < BlastHardcheese> although I don't think that really contradicts what I stated; I said most, not all
15:44 < SigmaWP> Is there anyone here with access to Nature papers?
15:44 < BlastHardcheese> mmm pineapple
15:44  * SigmaWP wants to se http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/pdf/nature12103.pdf
15:45 < mareklug> BlastHardcheese as for the bullshit about HFCS being all glucose and a little fructose, our own wiki article has the following in its lead for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High%20fructose%20corn%20syrup: HFCS consists of 24% water, and the rest sugars. The most widely used varieties of HFCS are: HFCS 55 (mostly used in soft drinks), approximately 55% fructose and 42% glucose; and HFCS 42 (used in beverages, processed foods, cereals and baked
15:45 < mareklug>  goods), approximately 42% fructose and 53% glucose.[7][8] HFCS-90, approximately 90% fructose and 10% glucose, is used in small quantities for specialty applications, but primarily is used to blend with HFCS 42 to make HFCS 55.[9]
15:45 < BlastHardcheese> mareklug: wait what, I never said HFCS was all glucose
15:46 < eeekster> doesn't the fructose come from converting starches?
15:46 < BlastHardcheese> corn syrup is not high fructose corn syrup
15:46 < BlastHardcheese> hence the name
15:46 < moogsi> coke with HFCS tastes weird
15:46 < mareklug> "[17:41:25] <BlastHardcheese>	 and corn syurp is almost entirely glucose; HFCS is made by converting some of the glucose to fructose with enzymes
15:46 < mareklug> "
15:46 < moogsi> WEIRD I TELL YOU
15:46 < eeekster> tastes much better with aspertame
15:46 < BlastHardcheese> yes, corn syrup, as in, the syrup extracted from corn, is mostly glucose
15:46 < mareklug> BlastHardcheese ok.  but we are not drinking coke swetened with blessed corn syrup now, are we.
15:47 < BlastHardcheese> no, when did I state that
15:47 < BlastHardcheese> forgive me for not being absolutely precise on IRC
15:47 < mareklug> so anyway, FastLizard4 -- basically fructose-sweetened food is diabetic bait.
15:48 < mareklug> eeekster aspartame *  and no it does not.
15:48 < mareklug> stuff like aspartame or stevia makes my brain hurt.
15:49 < moogsi> aspartame is nasty, stevia i don't mind
15:49 < SoapX> nobody likes aspartame : (
15:50 < SoapX> i dirnk more of it than anyone here and Im okay
15:50 < moogsi> stevia actually roughly approximates sweetness, aspartame is bloody miles off
15:50 < moogsi> tastes like licking a test tube
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15:51 < SoapX> Muliple people have told me that i'd be better off ditching my diet sodas and drinking the high-sugar ones
15:52 < moogsi> i read something to that effect once... they sort of trick your body into thinking that it's had a load of sugar so it messes you up in an entirely different way
15:52 < moogsi> citation majorly needed for that one, though
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15:52 < moogsi> it was in New Scientist :P
15:53 < moogsi> SoapX: there is that whole "aspartame is carcinogenic" thing, whcih isn't true
15:54 < SoapX> yeah
15:55 < tommorris> oh, yeah, the ridiculous level of sugariness of stuff in the US? ghastly
15:56 < moogsi> it's more that your soft drinks taste weird
15:56 < moogsi> to me, anyway
15:56 < moogsi> they're not any worse
15:56 < tommorris> I had a lemonade in a DC gay bar last year. almost vomited. you need the booze to take away the taste of the sugar.
15:56 < SoapX> maybe that was the point
15:56 < tommorris> and stuff like 7up has much less sugar in UK/EU than in the US
15:57 < SoapX> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Mkdw&diff=prev&oldid=554964680#Oppose
15:57 < mareklug> tommorris the wonderful remedy:  mix your cola with seltzer (perrier/mineral water/sparkling water), and you are golden
15:57 < moogsi> SoapX: maybe that is why they taste different... i thought it was the HFCS
15:57 < tommorris> mareklug: I'll stick with an easier solution - just order vodka and tonic and be done with it. ;)
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15:58 < tommorris> SoapX: that's hilarious. God hath spoken, and he has sockpuppets.
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16:01 < addihockey10> tommorris: we are all god's sockpuppets.
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16:01 < tommorris> #'''Support''' As a hell-bound atheist Sodomite admin, I have to say [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Mkdw&diff=prev&oldid=554964680#Oppose the opposes are rather unconvincing] thus far. ~~~~
16:02  * tommorris contemplates quietly to himself.
16:02 < SoapX> i didnt know you were gay
16:03 < addihockey10> tommorris: fwiw i'm not religious, i just like blurting out religious BS
16:03 < tommorris> SoapX: even if I weren't, it'd be good for the lulz
16:04 < tommorris> Okay, done. ;)
16:04 < tommorris> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Mkdw&diff=554965727&oldid=554964869 ;)
16:05 < SoapX> you really wrote that?
16:05 < SoapX> eh
16:05 < SoapX> I mean, no one's gonna get it since the sock's vote was removed almost instantly
16:05 < SoapX> but OK
16:05 < tommorris> that's why it has a link to the diff.
16:05 < addihockey10> SoapX: he linked it
16:05 < SoapX> I know
16:05 < addihockey10> you silly billy.
16:05 < SoapX> oh it's the only oppose
16:05 < tommorris> screw WP:DENY, I'm going for WP:MAKEFUNOFDUMBSHIT
16:05 < SoapX> yeah thats cute
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16:09 < mareklug> tommorris why is Sodomite capitalized?  that would only pertain to those that hail from the city of Sodom (the one turned to fire)
16:10 < tommorris> mareklug: I thought that was the correct styling.
16:10 < mareklug> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sodomite
16:10 < tommorris> I guess London will have to do as a substitute for Sodom.
16:11 < mareklug> 2. (l.c.) a person who engages in sodomy.   whatever l.c. means
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16:11 < tommorris> lower case.
16:11 < tommorris> So, yes, I suck.
16:11 < tommorris> Or rather, I fail at spelling.
16:11 < d_> Yes, but do you engage in sodomy
16:11  * tommorris was waiting for that.
16:11 < d_> My work here is done
16:11 < mareklug> right.  cuz: 1. an inhabitant of Sodom.
16:12 < Pharos>  I am a Gothamite
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16:12 < tommorris> I ain't minor editing it for the sake of a gag.
16:12 < Pharos> a gothamite is a fool
16:12 < Pharos> but mainly a Brooklynite
16:12 < mareklug> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Gothamite
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16:13  * AaronSchulz glances back at this channel and sees some interesting discussion
16:13 < mareklug> now explain the origin of "Gotham" to us, Pharos
16:13 < d_> How come there's Brooklynite but not Queensite
16:13 < Pharos> if only there were a free-as-in-freedom dictionary...
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16:13 < d_> On the other hand, "Bronxite" sounds like a mineral
16:13 < Pharos> there may be Quuensite, but the identity is rarer
16:13 < Pharos> Bronxite is real
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16:14 < AaronSchulz> tommorris: when did you leave CZ?
16:14 < Pharos> Gotham in England was a legendary town of fools
16:14 < Pharos> Washington Irving appropriated the name for NYC
16:14 < tommorris> AaronSchulz: I resigned from the Editorial Council in November 2010.
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16:14 < Pharos> as a town of clever fools
16:14 < mareklug> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bronxite
16:15 < Pharos> Chelm is the Jewish-Polish town of fools
16:15 < Pharos> i wonder if modern Chelmites are aware of that
16:15 < tommorris> AaronSchulz: but for one note on a talk page, I stopped editing in 2011. why?
16:15 < SoapX> never heard of Chelm?
16:15 < SoapX> er
16:16 < SoapX> that was supposed to be " (I have) never heard of Chelm"
16:16 < SoapX> whats the term for people who speak with question intonation in declarative sentences?
16:16 < SoapX> its supposedly common in New Zealand
16:16 < Pharos> the stories are called "the wise men of chelm"
16:17 < SoapX> found it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_rising_terminal
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16:18 < Pharos> [[simpleton]] is kind of a fun topic
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16:18 < a930913> Pharos: Chelm actually exists? :o
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16:18 < Pharos> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che%C5%82m
16:18 < Pharos> with the crazy slashed Polish L
16:18 < SoapX> oh it's a Polish town. I was thinking like Chelm(sford)
16:19 < SoapX> we sure do talk about Poland a lot in this room
16:19 < Pharos> Gotham is the English town of fools
16:19 < AaronSchulz> tommorris: I still lurk around there sometimes
16:19 < Pharos> those are the two I'm familiar with, they are probably others :P
16:20 < SoapX> Chelsmford MA is a nice place
16:20 < AaronSchulz> I noticed that they haven't upgraded in a while...you could probably jack random people's accounts without too much work
16:20 < tommorris> AaronSchulz: just looked at your CZ user page. lots of links to skeptical stuff. win.
16:21 < tommorris> AaronSchulz: that would require that there's some actual point to hijacking a Citizendium account.
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16:21 < Pharos> the only CZ account worth jacking would be Sanger's
16:21 < Pharos> :P
16:21 < AaronSchulz> you know, spammers/hackers are not always the most picky bunch
16:21 < SoapX> Sanger said he's working on a new project called Infobitt
16:22 < tommorris> I dunno. If I were evil, I could stir up some shit if I had some CZ accounts. But that would be petty, mean and vindictive.
16:22 < tommorris> Funny, granted, but mean.
16:22 < SoapX> wow
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16:23 < SoapX> Larry Sanger hasnt edited the mainspace of Citizendium since July 2011. Quite a leader by example eh
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16:23 < d_> I thought Citizendium was a free online encyclopedia not everybody should edit
16:23 < d_> Perhaps he's just setting a good example
16:24 < SoapX> http://infobitt.com/
16:24 < tommorris> d_: well, that wasn't the plan. that's just an unfortunate meme that stopped people editing. ;)
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16:24 < SoapX> the site itself still seems to be reasonably active
16:24 < SoapX> comparable to a low-volume Wikipedia such as Swahili
16:24 < d_> I'd think ideological differences would be the main thing stopping people from editing
16:25 < tommorris> so, Larry's inability to lead the community was only one of the reasons it failed.
16:25 < tommorris> I think the other reason is that it didn't have the capacity to deal with the troublesome users from Wikipedia
16:26 < tommorris> like, a lot of people who'd been banned from Wikipedia turned up and started writing at Citizendium, usually on their pet fringe topic. and so things got shitty and POV-ridden
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16:26 < SoapX> hmm
16:26 < Pharos> isn't the shortage of users the base problem, though?
16:26 < Pharos> or at least the shortage of sincere/sane ones
16:26 < AaronSchulz> yeah, the woo stuff was pretty unfortunete
16:26 < tommorris> Pharos: that's not necessarily a big deal. if they were focussing on quality rather than quantity...
16:27 < AaronSchulz> particularly for a site that claims more expert guidance
16:27 < SoapX> less is more
16:27 < Pharos> but were they really focusing on quality over quantity in a meaningful way?
16:27 < tommorris> but when I saw that Dana Ullman was using the homeopathy article as his personal fiefdom, backed by policy, I sort of knew things were fucked. and that puts one off contributing.
16:27 < SoapX> ugh
16:28 < SoapX> Swahili wikipedia is horrible
16:28 < SoapX> http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook
16:28 < tommorris> we had the cold fusion crank community as well
16:28 < SoapX> it's just piles of badly translated English imports
16:28 < AaronSchulz> tommorris: remember the Women's/Ethic studies incident?
16:28 < SoapX> and broken MediaWiki syntax
16:28 < tommorris> AaronSchulz: yeah. Larry covered himself in fail on that front.
16:28 < Pharos> hey, my swahili is better than i thought :P
16:29 < AaronSchulz> I don't know how much damage that actually did realistically, but it sure looked bad
16:29 < d_> No you know that "historia" is swahili for history
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16:29 < d_> s/No/Now/
16:29 < Pharos> historia could actually be the word
16:29 < SoapX> pharos, yeah, no kidding
16:29 < SoapX>  "Facebook eventually filed for an initial public offering on February 1, 2012, and was headquartered in Menlo Park, California.[11] Facebook Inc. began selling stock to the public and trading on the NASDAQ on May 18, 2012.[12] Based on its 2012 income of USD 5.1 Billion, Facebook joined the Fortune 500 orodha kwa mara ya kwanza, uliingizwa katika orodha ya 462 ya orodha iliyochapishwa
16:29 < SoapX> mwezi may 2013. [13]"
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16:31 < SoapX> not that Im going to go help or anything
16:31 < Pharos> do you know good swahili?
16:31 < d_> Do you speak Swahili, SoapX?
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16:31 < AaronSchulz> tommorris: It always felt like the leadership was getting more and more out of touch
16:31 < SoapX> no, i could fix the broken templates though
16:31 < SoapX> i did fix one typo on the main page of Swahili Wikipedia once
16:32 < d_> So I guess they don't protect it
16:32 < SoapX> nah, they do
16:32 < SoapX> i just spoke to an admin
16:32 < SoapX> most of their admins probably speak English
16:32 < d_> Ah
16:32 < d_> I expected you could just waltz in and fix it
16:32 < d_> So it's not as bad as I thought
16:33 < Pharos> the swahili countries mostly have englis as govt language
16:33 < AaronSchulz> tommorris: one thing that always drove me crazy was the licensing & importing issue
16:33 < Pharos> kenya, tanzania etc
16:33 < AaronSchulz> not importing WP article (I think some arrogant dismissive reasons were given at times) was a pretty huge mistake
16:33 < tommorris> AaronSchulz: that would imply there was leadership. there was a huge gaping hole between Larry stepping back and the bureaucracy coming into existence. because drafting a charter was apparently a lot more important than actually fixing shit
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16:34  * AaronSchulz pictures a wall painting of the founding fathers ;)
16:34 < tommorris> and when the bureaucracy was in place, it just became a way for petty vindictiveness
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16:34 < d_> an IP editor changed </gallery> to </gallelry>
16:34 < d_> Either this is some creative albeit ineffective vandalism or someone's very misled about English spelling
16:34 < a930913> d_: rvv
16:35 < tommorris> instead of sorting out the pseudoscience shit, they basically turned on Howard Berkowitz, the main content contributor... and a lovely old guy who wouldn't harm a fly
16:35 < a930913> d_: Usually helps if they have warnings prior, to confirm vandalism.
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16:35 < d_> I'm not saying indefinitely block them for inserting an l
16:36 < d_> I was just... perplexed
16:36 < SoapX> i hope Sanger hasnt abandoned Citizendium
16:36 < harej> LOL citizendium
16:36 < SoapX> it actually helps Wikipedia to have rival websites like that sticking around
16:36 < SoapX> if there's only one "Wikipedia" then we could be doing everything wrong and not know it
16:37 < d_> Don't worry, someone from the media would remind us
16:37 < Pharos> it would be more helpful if wikipedia was good, though
16:37 < tommorris> SoapX: the Citizendium experiment proved to me that real name policies don't really do anything.
16:37 < SoapX> Ive always liked Wikinfo, a fork that allows OR
16:37 < Pharos> the only good competitors have really been specilized subject wikis
16:37 < SoapX> Wikinfo has avoided the "rivalry" of Citizendium and basically just kept to itself
16:37 < SoapX> but as a consequence, nobody knows about it
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16:37 < harej> Wikinfo is the New Hampshire of Wikipedia spinoffs.
16:37 < tommorris> so, you have a real name policy. doesn't stop people being dicks to one another (again, I was on the damn Editorial Council, and I saw people being dicks to one another in their real names).
16:38 < SoapX> oh no
16:38 < tommorris> but real name policies do stop people who have things to fear about their real life identity being revealed (people in countries with censorship regimes, women/lgbt/other minorities, kids etc.)
16:38 < SoapX> Wikinfo is moving to Wikia
16:38 < SoapX> that means it's going to have ads and stuff
16:39 < Pharos> there should be a decent wikia alternative
16:39 < SoapX> I guess he just couldnt afford to keep it online any longer
16:39 < Pharos> there probably is one somewhere, i guess
16:39 < SoapX> I was user #4 !!!!
16:39 < Pharos> but one that wikimedia-type people would regularly turn to
16:39 < SoapX> my early editor status will be gone forever
16:39 < Pharos> that isn't commercial-focused
16:41 < BlastHardcheese> tommorris: are you implying social problems often don't have simple solutions, you silly boy?!
16:42 < mareklug> SoapX so basically that canon printer special?  they mailed it to me 5 hours after the fact (it was an hour's worth of promotion at noon eastern).
16:42 < mareklug> that's canon itself.
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16:42 < moogsi> solution to all social problems is very simple: kill everyone who is causing the problem
16:42 < moogsi> this solution is brought to you by ultra-authoritarian consulting inc.
16:42 < BlastHardcheese> now that's the kind of outside-the-box thinking I like
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16:43 < Pharos> boxes are good
16:43 < Pharos> think inside the box
16:43 < BlastHardcheese> you know who else thought while inside a box
16:43 < BlastHardcheese> HITLER
16:43 < SoapX> marek huh I dont get it
16:43 < SoapX> you ordered the printer ?
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16:44 < SoapX> or no
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16:44 < moogsi> BlastHardcheese: lol
16:45 < mareklug> SoapX I tried to, but it was not taking the promo code. cuz it was after the sale.
16:45 < mareklug> SoapX so I called them voice and they told me to forward the email I got to their Sales Office.
16:46 < mareklug> Then a lady from Sales called me and basically apologize and extended the offer and then some.
16:46 < SoapX> oh so they're the one company in the world that actually means it when they say "on sale for one hour only"
16:46 < mareklug> So I caved in and bought it.
16:46 < Carly> Mareklug Hi :)
16:47 < AaronSchulz> tommorris: do you think real "avatar" photos help reduce rudeness at all?
16:47 < mareklug> for Order Total:	 $60.54   I got a brand new wireless all in one, this one:  http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/printers_multifunction/office_all_in_one_inkjet_printers/pixma_mx432#Overview    and altogether 3 XL black ink cartriges and 1 color XL one.  No sales tax, free shipping.
16:47 < Carly> O.o
16:47 < d_> Perhaps we should force people to use real avatar photos where they're smiling cordially
16:48 < d_> That way, even if what they type is dripping with vitriol, the impact is lessened
16:48 < Carly> Xd
16:48 < mareklug> the color cartriges sell for 29.99 and the b/w ones for 20.99 and the list price on the printer is a 100 without a cent.
16:48 < AaronSchulz> I don't know of sites that force it, but it's an interesting theory
16:49 < mareklug> d_aw.  then I would have to forego my purloined Bjórk  "Hyperballad" video still.
16:49  * AaronSchulz wonders what would happen if his linkedin profile had a banana photo :)
16:49 < d_> Chiquita would offer you a position?
16:50 < Carly> Ay gracias
16:50 < mareklug> Carly holoa
16:50 < Carly> Chiquito
16:50 < Carly> Mareklug at least say hi
16:50 < d_> I meant the banana company, but if you're hiring...
16:50 < Carly> Xd
16:52 < SoapX> awesome, marek
16:52 < SoapX> so basically you got $190 worth of stuff for $60
16:53 < mareklug> SoapX I know.  Now I have two printers (the old canon pixma mx 310 is just fine, except it is not wireless and won't scan across the network when hooked up to the back of Apple's Time Capsule; it came free as a promo with the iMac back in 2009)
16:53 < SoapX> printers are so outdated though
16:53 < SoapX> I mean, not that we can live without them
16:53 < mareklug> not jsut printers.  printer/scanner/photo quality printer/auto document feeder/copier/and all kinds of other networking stuff.
16:53 < SoapX> its just like an uncomofrtable reminder that the world still runs on paper
16:54 < SoapX> its like having to go to the toilet.  Why is it that weve innovated in every other area but we still need toilets
16:54 < SoapX> I bet there's still going to be toilets 400 years from now
16:54 < mareklug> SoapX indeed, I mostly print to PDFs.  But sometimes I have to communicate with luddites like my bank, and they want a fax so I have to print out a physical sheet.
16:54 < d_> Well, we don't *need* toilets
16:54 < d_> They're just more convenient than the alternative
16:55 < d_> But yeah, we're never going to entirely obviate the need for printers
16:55 < SoapX> and why havent we perfected telepathy yet
16:56 < SoapX> Telepathy has now been proven possible but nobody's doing it
16:56 < d_> I dunno, we should focus on brain uploads
16:56 < d_> then we can just use 802.11g
16:56 < SoapX> actually yeah
16:57 < SoapX> it's also been proven that the human brain can "sense" wifi, but just doesnt do anything with that sensory information
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17:00 < SigmaWP> SoapX: What
17:00 < SigmaWP> Link
17:01 < SoapX> oh i dont know where i read it
17:01 < SoapX> something about cellphones being proven not to cause cancer
17:01 < SoapX> but that the brain "knows" it's receiving radiation and gets distracted even if the person doesnt conbcsciously know there's a cellphone near their head
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17:02 < pooper> sup fools
17:02 < SoapX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health#Cognitive_effects
17:03 < d_> In other words
17:03 < d_> wear a tinfoil hat
17:03 < BlastHardcheese> which explains why everyone is crazy, since humans are always being bombarded by radio waves
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17:10 < pooper> sup Theo10011?
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17:10 < moogsi> wait
17:10 < moogsi> my wifi sense is tingling
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17:10 < Theo10011> Yes, hello poop
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17:18 < snail> do we have a standard approach for articles on organisations that are named to appear to be things that they're not?
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17:19 < snail> i'm thinking a hatnote?
17:19 < SoapX>  yah
17:19 < d_> {{distinguish}}?
17:19 < SoapX> but I think it's best to treat each case individually and not worry about precedents
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17:22 < snail> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Research_Council_for_Complementary_Medicine&diff=554974372&oldid=554967617 seemed right
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17:24 < SoapX> anything with medicine in the title is bound to infuriate someone
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17:27 < nas> Anyone good with wikicodee?
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17:27 < nas> well
17:27 < Carly> Cookies!
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17:27 < nas> template codes...
17:28 < nas> I hate infoboxes
17:28 < nas> Most definitely {{info box}}
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17:40 < Guest64743> :)
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17:47 < SoapX> The iPhone 5 can overheat when used in overwhelmingly hot outdoor temperatures and shut itself down into a “safe mode” which prevents it from being used for anything but 911 emergency calls until it cools down, keeping its internal components from burning up in the mean time.
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17:48 < d_> Well, at least it doesn't spray you with coolant
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17:48 < mareklug> you can always drop in in the toilet to cool it down
17:48 < addihockey10> mareklug: that's an ingenious idea
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17:49 < addihockey10> EVERYBODY DROP YOUR myphone/shepad/mepad in the toilet
17:49 < addihockey10> and solve the crisis of applesauce
17:49 < moogsi> don't drop your shepads in the toilet... that's what the little bin is for
17:49 < d_> I want to see people start carrying around CPU heatsinks
17:49 < addihockey10> moogsi: touche
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17:49 < d_> and attaching them to their iphones when they get hot
17:50 < mareklug> addihockey10 far more UNLUCKY ppl drop their samsungs into the toilet and the things drown.  the iPhone will survive immersion.  read about it.
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17:50 < addihockey10> mareklug: no they don't, check youtube.
17:50 < nas> Why hasn't someone cloned Femto Bot.
17:50 < addihockey10> guy dropped it in water for a sec, took it out and the screen wouldn't work.
17:51 < foks> tough
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17:51 < mareklug> addihockey10 yes they do.  check the reviews / comparisons of Galaxy 4, which addresses this known defect of Galaxy 3.
17:51 < d_> Maple__ is experiencing some sort of an underscore crisis
17:52 < addihockey10> mareklug: link.
17:52 < Maple__> yes
17:52 < Maple__> someone is trying to steal nicks which are my rightful property
17:52 < Maple__> /part
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17:53 < mareklug> addihockey10 here is one:  http://news.yahoo.com/galaxy-s4-found-break-more-easily-iphone-galaxy-210018910.html
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17:54 < mareklug> "http://news.yahoo.com/galaxy-s4-found-break-more-easily-iphone-galaxy-210018910.html"
17:54 < addihockey10> O_O http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/boston-bombing-suspect-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-s-disturbing-female-fan-club-191627312.html
17:55 < mareklug> "While the Samsung S3 screen is more durable, it is less water resistant than the S4 and its plastic back and wide width decreases its grip-ability. Breakability score: 6.5
17:55 < mareklug> The iPhone 5 scored the highest of the three phones tested. While it lost points for its larger size due to more breakable surface area, its excellent grip-ability and low friction coefficient make it far more durable overall. Breakability Score: 5"
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17:55 < addihockey10> mareklug: we can all read
17:56 < addihockey10> simple solution. get a case.
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17:56 < addihockey10> i dropped my ipod from 1 foot, cracked.
17:56 < addihockey10> also note that the audio jack mysteriously stopped working
17:57 < addihockey10> and the screen died too.
17:57 < SoapX> nothing's worse than the Samsung Galaxy Tab though
17:57 < foks> My 4S has survived some pretty terrific drops
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17:58 < mareklug> addihockey10 you always have the worst luck with Apple or heard about people having the worst luck.  Meanwhile:
17:58 < mareklug> "However, the water test was evenly balanced. From the tests, it appears as if the iPhone 5 is somewhat waterproof! While the Galaxy S III was completely bricked within four seconds, the iPhone continued to play PSY’s Gangnam Style. The only casualty was its touchscreen; display, speakers, hard buttons continued to work after being taken out of the water."
17:58 < mareklug> http://www.redmondpie.com/iphone-5-goes-head-to-head-with-galaxy-s-iii-in-water-resistance-and-other-durability-tests-video/
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17:58 < d_> I haven't dropped a smartphone since I started using them
17:59 < d_> I remember dropping flip phones a lot
17:59 < mareklug> d_ the toilet awaits ya
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17:59 < nonsenseferret> i dropped a smartphone - at least it was one of the ones you can repair the screen yourself on
18:00 < Theopolisme> Dropped an ipod touch
18:00 < Theopolisme> twas fine
18:00 < Theopolisme> 5ft
18:00 < nonsenseferret> can you replace an iphone battery?
18:01 < SoapX> i bought a rugged case for my phone even before I got the phone
18:01 < SoapX> because I know what I am
18:01 < mareklug> nonsenseferret you can't.  Apple can.
18:01 < Theopolisme> SoapX: i bought a cheap case. yet it does its job
18:01 < nonsenseferret> what you mean, wow, you have to take it back to the manufacturer just to swap the batter for a new one?
18:01 < d_> Well, you could, if you wanted to dig around in your phone, I suppose
18:01 < SoapX> i wont buy unibody phones
18:01 < d_> That obviously voids everything
18:02 < mareklug> nonsenseferret indeed you have to.  it is integrated into the system and designed to last the recharge cycles of the device.
18:02 < SoapX> it's extremely unlikely that I'll ever need to actually replace the battery in one, but if it hypothetically happens (and it's happened to other people I know), it's a major hassle
18:02 < d_> They seem to be popular nowadays on the account of simplicity from engineering standpoint
18:02 < nonsenseferret> that sucks a bit much doesn't it - why can't they make them easily replaceable by the user like on other phones
18:02 < SoapX> i used to like HTC, but now theyve taken after Apple and make all their phones unibody with no removable battery and no SD card slot
18:02 < SoapX> so Im going to buy from Samsung next
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18:03 < nonsenseferret> can you like plug in more memory in a card on your iphone
18:03 < nonsenseferret> memory is cheap these days, surely that is possible
18:03 < d_> Google is shying away from sdcards
18:03 < d_> Because mounting external partitions is too hard or something
18:03 < mareklug> nonsenseferret they do a lot of things that are mysterious.  the end result is supposed to be minimal power consumption and the sturdiest design that also looks good.  also, their target audience does not care to replace batteries.  but the complaint is very popular, so maybe one day they will make it modular and swappable.  or not.
18:04 < nonsenseferret> goodness its almost like they were trying to get more money out of gullible purchasers
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18:04 < mareklug> also it is harder to come up with a water-resistant phone if you have swappable batteries, as S III prooves the point.
18:04 < d_> Well, obviously a phone with an internal battery is simpler to design and manufacture than one with a battery compartment and a removable cover
18:04 < SoapX> Motorola is also going unibody these days
18:04 < Theopolisme> !admin bot editing whilst logged out; [[Special:Contributions/2A02:EC80:101:0:0:0:2:8]]
18:05 < d_> How much of a benefit it is vs the downsides of not being able to replace the battery easily is another question
18:05 < legoktm> Theopolisme: HI
18:05 < legoktm> Chris_G: ^thats your bot
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18:05 < Theopolisme> [[User:RFC bot]], yeah
18:05 < SoapX> RFC Bot
18:05 < SoapX> *bot
18:05 < FastLizard4> Lol
18:05 < FastLizard4> It's gone rogue :P
18:05 < Theopolisme> I was befuddled initially
18:05 < Theopolisme> I thought it was some sort of IP trolling
18:05 < SoapX> oh its the toolserver
18:06 < SoapX> the toolserver went down, so probably the logins also went down
18:06 < SoapX> or something
18:06 < Theopolisme> ...shit, maybe i should check on my bot...la la la
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18:06 < FastLizard4> fastlizard4@phazon:~$ host 2A02:EC80:101:0:0:0:2:8
18:06 < FastLizard4> 8.0.0.0.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1.0.1.0.0.8.c.e.2.0.a.2.ip6.arpa domain name pointer yarrow.toolserver.org.
18:06 < Theopolisme> Yep
18:06 < legoktm> lulz
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18:12 < mareklug> why does a letter get to Chicago from Cincinnati in 2 days and a package from Georgia must take 6?
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18:14 < SoapX> the canon printer is shipping from Georgia?
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18:15 < mareklug> no, some ultra inexpensive but very high fidelity rca cables
18:15 < mareklug> btw, I was ridiculing here with links to Crutchfield audiophile cables that sell for anything from 299 to 650 a pair.
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18:16 < mareklug> they have the same construction (low-gauge wire all copper, reinforced housing, shielding, goldplated contacts as 2 dollar cables I am getting)
18:16 < ChrisGualtieri> So finally the Monsanto case is over.
18:16 < snail> Monsanto case?
18:17 < Victorium> it was a shit decision
18:17 < ChrisGualtieri> 9-0 unanimous x-x
18:17 < ChrisGualtieri> Creating the Wikipedia page on the thing now. Been waiting for months for the stupid case to end
18:17 < legoktm> Random Access Memories got leaked
18:17 < mareklug> ChrisGualtieri what is this Monsanto case you speak of.  linky linky
18:18 < SoapX> Monsanto was big news 10 years ago
18:19 < foks> 10 years ago, I had just turned 10
18:19 < snail> foks: you're just a spring chicken
18:19 < ChrisGualtieri> Just google it mareklug and pick a RS. XD
18:19 < mareklug> legoktm you got Textual 3.01?
18:20 < addihockey10> foks: happy birthday
18:20 < foks> thanks
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18:20 < foks> it was a while ago, but thanks
18:20 < mareklug> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/14/business/monsanto-victorious-in-genetic-seed-case.html?_r=0
18:20 < legoktm> mareklug: not yet, haven't wanted to quit :P
18:20 < ChrisGualtieri> I've been waiting over a year for this thing to end and the court didn't do what I was afraid they would do.
18:21 < mareklug> which was?
18:21 < SoapX> oh Monsanto won
18:21 < ChrisGualtieri> 9-0. Monsanto won.
18:21 < mareklug> it was 9-0 so never in doubt.  Clearly they were in the right.
18:21 < ZitFace> Mosanto sucks.
18:22 < ChrisGualtieri> mareklug you do not know what its implications were. :)
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18:22 < mareklug> Monsanto is a poster boy for zitfaces
18:22 < mareklug> ChrisGualtieri they said it was a narrow decision, so as far as Monsanto's development of seeds, they were right.
18:22 < ChrisGualtieri> A win meant undoing gene patents and upholding first sale at minimum.
18:23 < ChrisGualtieri> The decision scope is narrow, yes, but it has bad implications... I'm still reviewing the matter in detail
18:23 < mareklug> basically, the ppl to pick the patent bone with is the Congress/Senate, not individual companies.
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18:24 < ChrisGualtieri> mareklug perhaps you don't know this, but I own such technologies that can self replicate.
18:24 < mareklug> as in what?
18:24 < ChrisGualtieri> machines which make derivative machines. :)
18:24 < mareklug> in what medium?
18:25 < ChrisGualtieri> Plastic/metal/circuitry
18:25 < mareklug> basically little robots running around assembling other little robots?
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18:25 < ChrisGualtieri> Assemble them yourself, but otherwise yes.
18:26 < mareklug> and you want what out of the Monsanto case for yourself?
18:26 < ChrisGualtieri> The patent exhaustion thing being so narrow for this one case doesn't mess up the rest of the industry
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18:26 < ChrisGualtieri> The case had many of us terrified for a single reason, a large scope would make us owners of the works of other products we create by extension.
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18:27 < ChrisGualtieri> Basically, I sell you something and I find out you make a copy of the product I originally sold to you on my product. I sue you for infringement, and would likely win if the scope had been general and not specific.
18:27 < mareklug> "“But the exhaustion doctrine does not enable Bowman to make additional patented soybeans without Monsanto’s permission,” she added, and went on to say that “that is precisely what Bowman did.”"
18:28 < ChrisGualtieri> This limits to basically be a non-threat for the thousands of developers and other divisions that tread on the cutting edge of technology.
18:28 < mareklug> seems pretty clear and lucid to me.
18:28 < ChrisGualtieri> Yeah... soybeans. :)
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18:28 < Carly-> Yes
18:28 < mareklug> Carly- you into soybeans too, chica?
18:28 < ChrisGualtieri> If it had been a different word it would have been terrible.
18:29 < mareklug> like ...rice?
18:29 < Carly-> Mareklug what that
18:29 < Carly-> Rice?
18:29 < ChrisGualtieri> Kagan: “Our holding today is limited — addressing the situation before us, rather than every one involving a self-replicating product,” she wrote. “We recognize that such inventions are becoming ever more prevalent, complex and diverse. In another case, the article’s self-replication might occur outside the purchaser’s control. Or it might be a necessary but incidental step in using the item for another purpose.”
18:29 < Carly-> Mmm delicious
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18:29 < mareklug> Carly- haba de soja
18:30 < Carly-> O.o
18:30 < Carly-> Ok
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18:30 < Carly-> Mareklug what is that
18:30 < mareklug> ChrisGualtieri he should have been hacking FOSS soybeans.  Not the closed system ones.
18:31 < SigmaWP> o/ mareklug
18:34 -!- GatoMAN is now known as ElPAPASITO
18:34 < ElPAPASITO> Carly-: :P
18:34 < Carly-> ?
18:35 < ElPAPASITO> :)
18:35 < Carly-> ELPAPASITO are you Bradford?
18:35 -!- ElPAPASITO is now known as CarlyBot
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18:37 < mareklug> foks I thought we got rid of this fucker once and for all:  20:36:41] CarlyBot has userhost kvirc@181.185.35.54 and real name "Bradford"
18:37 < foks> "we" being "NotASpy"
18:37 < ChrisGualtieri> Lol
18:38 < CarlyBot> OK
18:38 < mareklug> if I recall correctly one previous condition of being allowed to vegetate on this channel was to cease nick hopping.  This is not the case, so...
18:38 < CarlyBot> I am Bradford?
18:38 < CarlyBot> problem?
18:38 < Carly-> Please change your nick
18:39 < CarlyBot> ok
18:39 < CarlyBot> :)
18:39 -!- CarlyBot is now known as Gael
18:39 < Carly-> Thank you
18:39 < Carly-> :)
18:39 -!- Pharos is now known as PharosBot
18:39 < Gael> ;)
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18:40 < Gael> Carly-: MP?
18:40 < Carly-> No,I am busy right now
18:40 < Carly-> Gael es PM
18:40 < Carly-> No MP
18:40 < Gael> ok
18:41 < Gael> Not speak english
18:41 < Gael> :(
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18:41 < ChrisGualtieri> Okay.. in all fairness why I were still dealing with this?
18:41 -!- Hahc21 [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has joined #wikipedia-en
18:41 < ChrisGualtieri> *why are we
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18:41 < David_Stevenson> lol
18:41 < Gael> Hahc21: Hi :)
18:42 < mareklug> ChrisGualtieri because foks is being a pissant.
18:42 < Hahc21> hey Gael
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18:43 < Gael> Hahc21:  Hey? -_-
18:44 < ChrisGualtieri> I've never done a SCOTUS case before on WIki
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18:45 < mareklug> ChrisGualtieri you will have to beat out the crowd for the gay marriage decision; this one won't have that many takers.
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18:47 < Gael> Carly:  :)
18:48 < Carly> Hey Gael :)
18:48 < Carly> Hi foks
18:48 < Gael> :D
18:49 < Gael> pm?
18:49 < mareklug> Dcoetzee and this one?  just out.  http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_305359_-1
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18:49 < Carly> Gael I am a little busy (estoy un poco ocupada)
18:49 < Gael> :(
18:49 < mareklug> Dcoetzee "only" 22.3 Megapixel full-frame Canon CMOS sensor
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18:52 < moogsi> ooooooh
18:52 < moogsi> caaameraa
18:52 < Carly> O.O
18:52  * IDoH downloads a new version of WineBottler
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18:53 < Gael> O_o
18:53  * mareklug downs more red wine
18:53  * Carly gets in the bed with ****
18:53 < Carly> Xd
18:53 -!- Gael [kvirc@181.185.35.54] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/]
18:53 < IDoH> What are you getting in bed with, Carly?
18:53 < Fleet|mobile> Hi mareklug
18:53 < mareklug> 4 asterisks, clearly
18:53 < mareklug> hi Fleet|mobile
18:53 < IDoH> LOL
18:53 < moogsi> IDoH: i didn't know WineBottler was a thing
18:54 < IDoH> It's a program that allows Windows programs (like huggle) to run on Macs.
18:54 < Carly> Idoh with a boy
18:54 < IDoH> LOL. Carly! X-D
18:55 < mareklug> Carly you should not cheat on your teddybear.  It might suicide.
18:55 < moogsi> i didn't know there was a port of Wine
18:55 < Carly> IDOH dont tell anyone,it is a secret
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18:55 < moogsi> man, they should have done a pun on PORT
18:55 < Carly> Mareklug ?
18:55 < moogsi> because, because.. port is
18:55 < mareklug> moogsi there is CrossOver for Mac, CrossOver for Linux (codeweavers make both)
18:55 < Bigotes> XD
18:55 < IDoH> It is, moogsi.
18:55 < moogsi> a kind of wine :(
18:55 < Bigotes> IDoH:  hello :D
18:55 < IDoH> Hey Bigotes.
18:56 < mareklug> IDoH greet Bradford in Spanish.
18:56 < moogsi> GEDDIT IT'S A PORT
18:56  * moogsi gets coat and leaves
18:56 < IDoH> Bigotes is Bradford?
18:56 < IDoH> Hola, Bigotes.
18:56 < mareklug> moogsi a kind of wine fit for cooking
18:56 < Bigotes> :)
18:56 < Pharos> is bigotes an irregular plural form of bigotry?
18:56 < Carly> Yes
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18:56 < IDoH> hey stickabee.
18:56 < moogsi> i drank it once when i didn't have any proper wine by accident
18:57 < moogsi> it's ok :P
18:57 < mareklug> Pharos it is Bradford's way of assessing the rest of the channel population
18:57 < mareklug> los bigotes
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18:57 < Bigotes> ...
18:57 < moogsi> yeah, well he WOULD say that, being spanish
18:57 < moogsi> they're all like that
18:57 < Bigotes> , /ignore mareklug
18:57 < David_Stevenson> we only like English speakers, maybe we are
18:57 < David_Stevenson> ;p
18:58 < Carly> Meh and foks leaves
18:58 < moogsi> wait, i don't know if he's spanish
18:58 < moogsi> whatever
18:58 < moogsi> YOU SPEAK SPANISH THEREFORE YOU ARE SPANISH
18:58 < moogsi> I HAVE SPOKEN
18:58 < mareklug> moogsi he is Venezuelan and un analfabeta y pendejo
18:58 < moogsi> i see
18:58 < Carly> David_Stevenson Only English¿
18:58 < moogsi> yay i know both of those words!
18:58 < mareklug> they have long names in Spain
18:58 < Pharos> never trust a venezuelan
18:58 < David_Stevenson> Carly: shhhh
18:59 < Carly> David_Stevenson shhhhh besitos
18:59 < Carly> Shut up
18:59 < Bigotes> Carly:  dile a mareklug que respete :/
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18:59 < Bigotes> Carly:  no lo estoy insultando
18:59 < Carly> Mareklug repect
18:59 < mareklug> Carly notice how Carly is too fucking lazy to press shift question mark, so she always uses the one the Spanish language uses to OPEN a question-sentence.
18:59 < Carly> Res
18:59 < Carly> Pect
18:59 < David_Stevenson> o_O
18:59 < Bigotes> <mareklug> moogsi he is Venezuelan and un analfabeta y pendejo
18:59 < Bigotes> Carly:  view ->  <mareklug> moogsi he is Venezuelan and un analfabeta y pendejo
19:00 < ZitFace> hola Carly
19:00 < Bigotes> mareklug:  respect
19:00 < Bigotes> ok?
19:00 < Carly> Mareklug leave me
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19:00 < Carly> And stop insulting
19:00 < Bigotes> yes :)
19:00 < moogsi> yeah, show some respect you pole
19:00 < mareklug> Bigotes wat.  you Aretha Franklin or something?  pendejo.  getta da fucka outta here.
19:00 < moogsi> stop being a racist
19:00 < IDoH> Apparently calling someone an illiterate asshole in Spanish upsets people, mareklug.
19:00 < Bigotes> mareklug: Stio
19:00 < Bigotes> stop
19:00 < Carly> Or you will get in.a problem with me and I think you already know me mareklug
19:00 < Bigotes> respect, pleases
19:01 < mareklug> IDoH but he is an illiterate asshole.
19:01 < David_Stevenson> :<
19:01 < IDoH> But that's an insult.
19:01 < David_Stevenson> please stop
19:01 < mareklug> but it is reality.
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19:01 < IDoH> But that doesn't matter.
19:01 < Carly> Bigotes dont worries (no te preocupes)
19:01 < IDoH> Insults get you quieted or banned.
19:01 < Carly> Yes stop
19:01 < Carly> Now.
19:01 < Pharos> insults can get you deported to the lunar penal colony
19:01 < Carly> Marie is insulting in S
19:01 < Pharos> so stop
19:02 < Carly> S
19:02 < Carly> Spanish*
19:02 < mareklug> or penal lunar colony
19:02 < Bigotes> No motive or reason understand why I always insulted mareklug
19:02 < moogsi> TO THE MOONROCK OVERMINES WITH YOU
19:02 < Bigotes> :/
19:02 < Bigotes> Carly:  No motive or reason understand why I always insulted mareklug
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19:02 < moogsi> Bigotes: because mareklug is not a nice person :|
19:02 < mareklug> no he ain't/
19:03 < Carly> Mmm
19:03 < Bigotes> :(
19:03 < IDoH> Heh heh
19:03 < Carly> Bigotes He insulted you...bad Google translate
19:03 < IDoH>  mareklug can make fun of himself
19:03 < Bigotes> must respect so that we can be well
19:03 < Bigotes> Carly:  thanks :)
19:03 < IDoH> I'm going to get pizza. BRB
19:03  * mareklug makes fun of myself and funs IDoH as a sideeffect
19:04 < Carly> Mareklug Bradford is asking respect and stop talking about him in English
19:04 < Carly> Then he will respect you.
19:04 < IDoH> LOL, yes you DID fun me.
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19:04 < mareklug> Carly what does he have that is worthy of his respect?  and older sister?
19:04  * moogsi slaps mareklug
19:04  * mareklug trouts moogsi 
19:05 < Carly> Mareklug only respect and you'll be respected,thanks.
19:05  * moogsi frying-pans mareklug
19:05 < IDoH> I think Carly and Bigotes are talking about not calling Bigotes an asshole.
19:05 < SoapX> estimated replication lag: s1 (en.wikipedia): 1 days, 6 hours | s2 (it.wikipedia and some others): 9 hours, 48 minutes | s3 (big wiktionaries, most small wikis): 41 seconds | s5 (de.wikipedia.org): 2 days, 8 hours
19:05 < IDoH> moogsi, are you a cannibal?
19:05 < moogsi> don't make me go all 3 Stooges on you
19:05  * mareklug thinks moogsi is invading Isarra's memes
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19:05 < Isarra> Good morning.
19:05 < mareklug> Isarra hi darling.
19:05  * Carly noooo
19:06  * Carly runs away
19:06 < Pharos> good evening!
19:06 < moogsi> Isarra: did you invent pwhanging people with a frying pan?
19:06 < moogsi> OMG DID YOU INVENT THE BANANA THING AS WELL
19:06 < moogsi> slipping on a banana?
19:06  * Isarra stuffs a chicken up moogsi's nose.
19:06 < mareklug> she also pours sauce on the channel
19:06 < moogsi> shit was boss in the 1910s
19:06 < moogsi> is it... a rubber chicken? did you invent those too?
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19:07  * David_Stevenson stuffs a nose up Isarra's chicken
19:07 < David_Stevenson> (not mine, of course)
19:07 < mareklug> my, that was SUGGESTIVE
19:07  * moogsi grates a washboard along mareklug's nose, unties his cummerbund
19:07 < mareklug> wat ess der cummerbund?
19:08  * moogsi squirts mareklug with a squirty flower
19:08 < moogsi> so damn fresh
19:08 < mareklug> A cummerbund (or cumberbund) is a broad waist sash, usually pleated, which is often worn with single-breasted dinner jackets (or tuxedos).
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19:09 < Bigotes> Hahc21: O_o
19:09 < moogsi> yes.
19:09 < mareklug> is it called a dinner jacket because you can't eat dinner while wearing one (except standing up at a cocktail party?)
19:09 < moogsi> haha i always wondered that
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19:10 < moogsi> it's because you wear it to A Dinner
19:10 < moogsi> whether food is served in any quantity is irrelevant
19:11 < mareklug> Dcoetzee The EOS 5D Mark III features a newly developed Canon full-frame 22.3 Megapixel CMOS sensor that's designed from the ground up to create high resolution, perfectly detailed images with unprecedented speed and clarity. A full 24 x 36mm, the sensor captures 5784 x 3861 large individual 6.25 µm pixels and has a much-improved S/N ratio resulting in better images from the start. A new photodiode structure with an increased photoelectric
19:11 < mareklug>  conversion rate increases the sensor's sensitivity by approximately 2 stops over previous models, meaning higher ISOs with the lowest noise of any EOS digital camera. And a 2-line 8-channel simultaneous signal readout means speeds of up to 6.0 fps (RAW + JPEG) are possible!
19:11 < moogsi> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_P7yWnAAd0
19:12 < mareklug> moogsi that must be a British way of eating dinner.  Over in Polandville we feed people.
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19:16 < moogsi> i enjoy polandville and its many foods
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19:16 < moogsi> i have not ever been :/
19:17 < mareklug> the side benefit of being conquered by many comers.  but also good sense to eat well.
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19:17 < moogsi> one of my friends lives near Krakow now so i sort of have an excuse
19:17 < mareklug> you can fly directly from Stanstead to Krakow
19:18 < mareklug> Stansted *
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19:18 < mareklug> what is your closest Airport?
19:18 < mareklug> as in capital A
19:19 < moogsi> not sure
19:19 < moogsi> are you planning a holiday for me? :D
19:19 < mareklug> just shopping virtually a connection.  it's fun to do.
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19:22 < mareklug> moogsi they even abjectly started calling their airport Kraków Airport -- see logotype:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_II_International_Airport_Kraków-Balice
19:22 < Carly> Good night canibals
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19:22 < mareklug> Carly que es un "canibal"?
19:22 < moogsi> was Międzynarodowy Port Lotniczy im. Jana Pawła II Kraków-Balice too much of a mouthful for idiots like myself?
19:23 < mareklug> I guess, in the eyes of the management.
19:23 < moogsi> :D
19:23 < moogsi> GOOD
19:23 < Carly> Mareklug a.man.who eat humans
19:23 < moogsi> I EXPECT EVERYONE TO SPEAK PERFECT ENGLISH WHEN I ARRIVE
19:23 < mareklug> Carly eat as in munch munch or eat as in you know what?
19:23 < mareklug> the first one is a "cannibal" not a "canibal"
19:24 < moogsi> no-one cares :P
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19:25 < mareklug> well, in her Spanish it is caníbal
19:25 < moogsi> "caníbal" es español
19:25 < moogsi> si
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19:25 < Bradford> :)
19:26 < moogsi> /kickban Carly no Spanish ever under any circumstance, please
19:26 < mareklug> Carly the second one is  "Cunilingüe es el acto de usar la boca, los labios, y la lengüeta para estimular los órganos genitales femeninos."
19:27 < moogsi> you kiss your mother with that mouth?
19:27 < mareklug> me?
19:27 < David_Stevenson> o_O what the..
19:27 < moogsi> THAT IS RUDE
19:27 < mareklug> wat
19:27 < moogsi> ok you didn't actually swear or anything, but really
19:28 < mareklug> are you like blushing?
19:28 < moogsi> .......a bit
19:28 < moogsi> as if being an admin on Commons means i don't see things that would make a Gomorraean blush
19:28 < mareklug> anyway, it is all to the good to make Carly hip to the idiomatic use.  Will save her embarrassment.
19:28 < Carly> Crazy old mens
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19:29 < Carly> Please
19:29 < Carly> Ok Marie Klug
19:29 < moogsi> :D
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19:31 < David_Stevenson> Marie? lol
19:32 < mareklug> yes, for some reason Carly fancies me as Marie.  And some weird folk think that mareklug == Mare Klug, a girl.
19:33 < Carly> Marielug because i hate you
19:33 < Carly> Xd
19:33 < David_Stevenson> lol
19:33 < mareklug> Carly  red red wine.  whine.
19:33 < Carly> You called me once "Carl"
19:33 < David_Stevenson> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Marek_Lugowski_in_OH.jpg :D
19:33 < Carly> :|
19:34 < Carly> Ohhh s**
19:34 < Carly> Lol
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19:34 < mareklug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXt56MB-3vc    UB40 - Red Red Wine
19:34 < mareklug> David_Stevenson not the artful lucky end of emulsion. :)  what a fortuitous effect.
19:34 < David_Stevenson> I like that song :<
19:34 < Bradford> :P
19:35 < David_Stevenson> yeah I was wondering why the image was like that..
19:35 < mareklug> it says in russian in the description (kaniec filma)  which is a Polish saying that translates to Russian end of movie.
19:35 < mareklug> :)
19:36 < David_Stevenson> ahh..
19:36 < mareklug> it's as if I were already in the other world, looking in. :)
19:36 < mareklug> with all the guitar heros on that guitar in Rock Hall of Fame front courtyard
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19:41 < mareklug> David_Stevenson kinda hard to do that on a digital camera, eh?  well, lucky me.
19:42 < Carly> Mareklug enough,go to sleep
19:42 < David_Stevenson> heh :) someone found your picture interesting, they linked it to a gallery of images
19:43 < mareklug> Carly but mommie, it is only 9:42 pm, and I can still play the stereo loud to annoy the neighbors
19:43 < Carly> :|
19:43 < mareklug> David_Stevenson yeah.  saw that.  but it is only one user.  I need more.
19:43 < Carly> I am too young to be your.mommie
19:43 < Carly> You might be my grandfather
19:43 < Carly> :|
19:44 < mareklug> Carly we can play mommie.
19:44 < Carly> With you?
19:44 < Carly> No thanks
19:44 < mareklug> all this rejection!  in one night!  how can I stomach this.
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19:45 < Carly> O.O
19:45 < Bradford> o.o
19:46 < Carly> Mareklug come on
19:46 < Carly> Move.
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19:46 < mareklug> move to Chile?
19:46 < mareklug> the land of blueberry and nasty little girls?
19:47 < Carly> No,young lady...move on.your bed
19:47 < Carly> And sleep.
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19:47 < mareklug> sounds like this advice, coming from you, is addressed to you.  what with +2 hours on your end.
19:48 < Carly> Xd
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19:48 < mareklug> actually, we are now on the same time, imagine that.
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19:49 < mareklug> Chile moved one hour one way, and US Central moved one way opposite to meet it, and now Santiago/Chicago are on the same time.
19:50 < mareklug> no, still 10:49 pm in Santiago
19:50 < mareklug> I was confusing myself with Ohio time.
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19:52 < Dany_australia> hi
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19:53 < mareklug> IDoH  more interesting music for ya.  "Carpet Crawlers" by Genesis from Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, last album with Peter Gabriel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM6V_WX8TmM
19:53 < {soap|bed}> confusing Ohio with another US state?
19:53 < {soap|bed}> gee, where have I heard that before
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19:54 < IDoH> Your timing is spooky, mareklug.
19:54 < IDoH> Oh, I like this song
19:54 < mareklug> {soap|bed} :) confusing myself with my array of analog clocks in my iMac's Dashboard, stacked one over the other.  Forgot I am not in Ohio right now.
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19:55 < IDoH> I have eastern, central, and mountain digital times in firefox.
19:55 < mareklug> {soap|bed} it's a good lullaby for you too. ^
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19:56 < IDoH> Now I have pacific time.
19:56 < IDoH> I have family all across the mainland US.
19:56 < IDoH> Yeah, it's a relaxing song, actually.
19:56 < {soap|bed}> do lullabies really work?
19:57 < mareklug> I have Tokyo, Brisbane, Melbourne, Honolulu, New Delhi, Columbus, Chicago, Anchorage, Santiago, Accra, Warsaw and London in separate clocks on my Dashboard.
19:57 < {soap|bed}> my mother never used them with me afaik
19:57 < IDoH> {soap|bed}: My mom would sing a lullaby about a caterpillar when I got upset.
19:57 < IDoH> mareklug: Why?
19:58 < mareklug> talking to different people and tennis tournaments, and Accra because it never moves off UTC/GMT so it is good to know
19:58 < IDoH> Oh, I see.
19:59 < mareklug> plus while it is easy to remember LA time or Denver it is hard to remember Alaska or Honolulu
19:59 < snail> {soap|bed}: white noise, a heartbeat or wave sounds work just as well
19:59 < {soap|bed}> well i guess i have a lullaby every night if a floor fan counts
19:59 < {soap|bed}> i need that to drown out all other noise
19:59 < {soap|bed}> and to keep me from sweating too much
19:59 < IDoH> Probably so, snail, but only a heartbeat includes room for human interaction, which babies need a lot of.
19:59 < mareklug> {soap|bed} you actually might like that slow Genesis tune
20:00 < mareklug> "It's ten o'clock", said Sangeeta the Indian voice (on my iMac), so I have to turn off the stereo.
20:00 < mareklug> community rules.
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20:01 < {soap|bed}> i played a few seconsd of it but no thanks
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20:03 < {soap|bed}> http://www.amazon.com/Twinkle-Little-Star/dp/B001NERRL2
20:03 < {soap|bed}> serious relaxation music
20:04 < Bsadowski1> What the fuck
20:04 < Bsadowski1> https://twitter.com/Jahars_family
20:04 < Bsadowski1> :|
20:05 < Bsadowski1> and http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/girls_lovesick_twisted_OLK6eLVJM5U6618gAVXT0O
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20:06 < IDoH> Why?
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20:09 < closedmouth> any commons admins around?
20:09 < Bigotes> Bsadowski1: :)
20:10 < IDoH> closedmouth: Doesn't commons have it's own IRC channel?
20:10 < closedmouth> yes
20:10 < IDoH> Why not ask there?
20:12 < closedmouth> because i can ask here
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20:24 < SigmaWP> hi IDoH
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20:25 < IDoH> Hey SigmaWP.
20:25 < addihockey10> hey IDoH
20:26  * addihockey10 should stop stalking SigmaWP
20:26 < IDoH> Hey addihockey10.
20:26 < Bigotes> :O
20:26 < Guest32843> Freakin'
20:26 < Bigotes> :)
20:26 < IDoH> Why is everyone talking to me?
20:26 < addihockey10> because.
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20:26 < SigmaWP> You're an awesome Wikipedian
20:26 -!- Guest32843 is now known as Matthew_\
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20:26 < IDoH> Aww, really? Thanks
20:26 < addihockey10> and SigmaWP wishes to be a quarter of the wikimedian you are.
20:26 < IDoH> Ha ha!
20:27 < IDoH> Yeah right
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20:30 < IDoH> hey koishis' clone.
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20:57 < koishi_> i've made my case as well as i physically can
20:57 < koishi_> if they're just going to ignore this, i don't know what to do
20:57 < IDoH> What case, koishi_?
20:57 < addihockey10> ^
20:58 < koishi_> hang on, editing
20:58 < koishi_> whatever this nightmare is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pepsi#On_.22stylization.22
20:58 < IDoH> Okay. Please tell us when you're done, koishi_.
20:58 < koishi_> please skip to the bottom
20:58 < ZitFace> Anybody able to edit a page?
20:59 < koishi_> oh man
20:59 < koishi_> here we go with the reverting shit again
20:59 < koishi_> ok guys
20:59 < koishi_> you can't look to a logo for shit
20:59 < koishi_> you need to look in print
20:59 < koishi_> that is where stylizations come from
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21:02 < koishi_> why's it gotta be pepsi
21:02 < koishi_> why can't it be some irrelevant topic these guys aren't obsessing over
21:05 < koishi_> why do i get the feeling this guy isn't going to respond to any of this
21:06 < koishi_> faster than a speeding bullet to revert his precious article, but anything else...
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21:08 < koishi_> BLANK EDITS
21:08 < koishi_> so meta
21:09 < koishi_> aww no dice
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21:13 < koishi_> this is going nowhere
21:14 < koishi_> gonna be nosy
21:15 < koishi_> can someone tell me what's going on here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moissanite&diff=555001371&oldid=555001272
21:15 < koishi_> oh, this geo whoever is removing sourced stuff
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21:17 < koishi_> wat
21:17 < koishi_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gemologist1
21:17 < koishi_> so he's magically blocked now?
21:18 < koishi_> oh there's the notice
21:18 < koishi_> not sure why it wasn't showing up
21:18 < addihockey10> koishi_: when you're the only one on the page, you know something must be up
21:19 < koishi_> huh
21:19 < koishi_> not sure i follow
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21:23 < TOS> Can anyone help me?
21:23 < Victorium> with what?
21:23 < IDoH> With what, TOS?
21:24 < TOS> I've had this proposal at VP for 2 months now
21:24 < TOS> Its been at RFC and CENT
21:25 < TOS> Its now at a near unanimous support from about a dozen editors
21:25 < TOS> But I'm pretty sure a lot more discussion is reqd
21:26 < TOS> And for nearly 3 weeks now, I've to look for how to not get it archived.
21:26 < TOS> What must I do now?
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21:27 < TOS> So can anyone tell me what should be done?
21:36 < TOS> hello?
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21:56 < TOS> hello?
21:58 < legoktm> TOS: link?
22:00 < TOS> legoktm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Mass_removal_of_old_indefinite_rangblocks_under_controlled_conditions
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22:01 < legoktm> TOS: add it to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Requests_for_closure
22:01 < TOS> And is it possible this closes as a no-consensus citing the lack of number of participants?
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22:03 < legoktm> i doubt it
22:03 < TOS> Ok
22:03 < TOS> Thanks
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22:25 < TOS> Anyone here?
22:25 < CensoredBiscuit> I am now
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22:25 < TOS> There is repeated vandalism and removal of content from an account on a particular page
22:26 < TOS> Followed up quickly by ce edits from IPs
22:26 < TOS> The latest one is from a new account though
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22:26 < TOS> I'm sure thats a bad-faith edit designed to hide the original blanking
22:27 < TOS> Where can I report this behaviour?
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22:29 < CensoredBiscuit> good question
22:30 < TOS> Its not AIV stuff yet
22:30 < CensoredBiscuit> I looked at the sock puppetry page
22:30 < CensoredBiscuit> and there seems to be no reporting
22:30 < TOS> Its from different IPs and new accounts everytime
22:30 < TOS> And the IP edits are clever enough not to break any vandalism rules themselves
22:31 < TOS> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suburban_Express&action=history
22:31 < TOS> sockpuppetry might be one place to report, but I am not sure
22:32 < TOS> And now I have proof of sockpuppetry
22:33 < TOS> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Suburban_Express&curid=20360808&diff=555008325&oldid=555007664
22:33 < TOS> See the last word. Its consistent with the editing from the other account
22:33 < legoktm> omg
22:33 < legoktm> not that
22:33 < legoktm> akjdhfksjdhf
22:33 < TOS> legoktm What?
22:34 < legoktm> that article is relevant to my university so I've been following it
22:34 < legoktm> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COIN#Suburban_Express
22:34 < TOS> Ah
22:34 < legoktm> best comment on COIN
22:34 < TOS> legoktm Can you help me in reporting a Sockpuppet
22:34 < TOS> I want to make sure I dont do any mistakes on the reporting part
22:34 < legoktm> sure, are the instructions at WP:SPI not clear?
22:35 < TOS> Actually they are. But I am not sure if this is a clear cut case enough to warrant a Sock investigation
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22:36 < legoktm> oh wut
22:36 < legoktm> hold on
22:36 < legoktm> lemme poke a clerk
22:38  * TOS waits
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22:39 < legoktm> TOS: /join #wikipedia-en-spi plz
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22:41 < TOS> legoktm: Joined. What now?
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22:48 < CensoredBiscuit> lego
22:48 < CensoredBiscuit> legoktm?
22:48 < legoktm> sup?
22:51 < mareklug_> legoktm "Congratulations! You are connected with IPv6! The IPv6 Globe is spinning for you.
22:51 < mareklug_> Your IPv6 address is: 2601:d:9a00:73:fd62:5616:af37:8752"
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22:51 < legoktm> mareklug_: o.O
22:51 < Jasper_Deng> Comcast turned it on for him!
22:52 < mareklug_> well, it was on for a while but it took me a while to configure everything on my end.
22:52 < mareklug_> as in obtain a capable cable modem and then set um the Time Capsule/iMac
22:52 < mareklug_> up *
22:52  * Jasper_Deng has the HITRON modem and still is waiting for Comcast to turn it on so he can use something more reliable than the current UDP tunnel >:(
22:53 < mareklug_> Jasper_Deng where are you?  Here in Chicago they usually roll out things first.
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23:06 < chrisf8657> Hi guys. Can anyone help me with a copyright issue on a image I posted to Wikipedia?
23:07 < TOS> chrisf8657 Sure. But the #wikipedia-en-help channel will be better
23:07 < TOS> chrisf8657 In any case, ask away
23:08 < chrisf8657> TOS, thanks, if you can't help, i'll got over there. I got a message that my image does not have the proper information, specifically: This file does not have information on its copyright and licensing status. I am trying to edit the file information, but I don't know anything about Wiki syntax or what to do, it's my own work.
23:08 < chrisf8657> *go
23:09 < TOS> chrisf8657 Is that picture taken by you?
23:09 < chrisf8657> yes
23:09 < TOS> Ok. Just wait a min
23:09 < TOS> Link me the picture plz
23:10 < chrisf8657> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Smith_and_Wesson_M76_Small.jpg
23:11 < TOS> I believe you have to use {{PD-self}}
23:11 < chrisf8657> TOS may I PM you?
23:11 < TOS> Sure
23:12 < chrisf8657> might be fw'd keeps saying waiting for ack
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23:14 < chrisf8657> let me unblock ports
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23:26 < chrisf8657> thank you all for being here for a n00b!
23:26 < chrisf8657> g' night!
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23:26 < IDoH> Er
23:27 < IDoH> Gee, thanks.
23:27 < IDoH> ?
23:28  * SigmaWP applauds IDoH for being a helpful Wikipedian
23:28 < IDoH> why?
23:28 < SigmaWP> You're helpful
23:28 < IDoH> Heh heh
23:29 < IDoH> Thanks.
23:29 < SigmaWP> I dunno
23:29 < IDoH> What don't know you?
23:29 < IDoH> What don't you know, I meant.
23:31  * TOS waits for applause for him
23:31  * IDoH applauds TOS
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23:32 < chrisf8657> TOS, one more question - Do I need to do anything else besides edit the article like we talked about?
23:32 < chrisf8657> i.e. Notify anyone?
23:33 < TOS> No
23:33 < chrisf8657> OK then, thanks again! :-D
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23:34  * TOS bows to the applause
23:35 < IDoH> heh heh
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23:45 < unforgettableid> Hi all.  :)  Dear admins:  I have an unusual setup:  there are two proxy servers on my laptop.
23:45 < unforgettableid> My browser speaks to the first.  The first speaks to the second.  The second speaks to Wikipedia.  Because [[User:127.0.0.1]] is blocked, I can't edit.
23:45 < unforgettableid> I suspect the second proxy server in my unusual setup adds an "X-Forwarded-For: 127.0.0.1" header, which makes the block affect me.
23:45 < unforgettableid> I wonder if you could please unblock User:127.0.0.1 so that people in my situation can edit?
23:45 < unforgettableid> Also, I wonder if you could please enter an explanatory lengthy unblock reason?
23:45 < unforgettableid> I suggest:  "[[User:Unforgettableid]] is behind two proxy servers on one machine.  This block is affecting him. He suspects that one is adding 'X-Forwarded-For: 127.0.0.1' headers.  Unblocking."
23:45 < unforgettableid> I thank you in advance.
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23:48 < closedmouth> no, just stop using your "unusual setup"
23:49 < unforgettableid> closedmouth:  There's a reason why I'm using such an unusual setup.  And I don't see any reason why 127.0.0.1 need be blocked anyway.
23:50 < closedmouth> why do you need to hide your IP address?
23:50 < PinkAmpersand> localhost was blocked as a test, IIRC. no reason for it
23:51 < unforgettableid> closedmouth:  my IP address is not hidden.  My real IP address is disclosed to Wikipedia with every edit.
23:51 < unforgettableid> closedmouth:  I don't need to hide my IP address; and so, I do not hide it.
23:51 < mareklug_> but tell us the reason for the double proxy
23:51 < PinkAmpersand> 20:26, 17 January 2013 Prodego (talk | contribs) changed block settings for 127.0.0.1 (talk) with an expiry time of 1 year, 364 days, 18 hours, 10 minutes and 48 seconds (account creation blocked) (test block)
23:52 < CensoredBiscuit> is YuviPanda around?
23:52 < unforgettableid> mareklug_:  dansguardian talking to Squid.  Dansguardian is really only half a proxy.  It was never designed as a full proxy.  All it can really do is talk to a full proxy.
23:52 < mareklug_> unforgettableid you can always write on Prodego's talk page or send him email
23:53 < PinkAmpersand> mareklug_: not if he's blocked and doesn't have an account...
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23:53 < unforgettableid> mareklug_:  but I have edits to make :)
23:53 < unforgettableid> PinkAmpersand:  I am [[User:Unforgettableid]].
23:53 < PinkAmpersand> unforgettableid: mind if I copy your request from here to Prodego's talk page?
23:53 < unforgettableid> PinkAmpersand:  not at all.
23:54 < PinkAmpersand> unforgettableid: oh, if you have an account you could just email him.
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23:55 < unforgettableid> PinkAmpersand:  I could.  But I feel there's no need to wait for him.  I feel this is an uncontroversial unblock.
23:56 < unforgettableid> PinkAmpersand:  Remember:  Prodego didn't block me.  He blocked 127.0.0.1.  :)
23:56 < PinkAmpersand> and that makes it so you can't edit?
23:56 < IDoH> unforgettableid: I think it's best, even in cases of uncontroversial edits, to just go ahead and talk to the blocking admin directly.
23:57 < unforgettableid> PinkAmpersand:  Correct.  I think Wikipedia is reading my X-Forwarded-For headers and thinking I'm 127.0.0.1.  I'm not.  I'm 99.226.134.231 logged in as [[User:Unforgettableid]].
23:58 < PinkAmpersand> unforgettableid: mind if I mention your real IP address to Prodego as well?
23:58 < unforgettableid> PinkAmpersand:  Not at all.
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