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--- Log opened Sun May 12 00:00:08 2013
--- Day changed Sun May 12 2013
00:00 < a930913> iDM: :o
00:00 < a930913> If I did that I'd probably die.
00:01 < iDM> that's what I said
00:02 < eeekster> my rule is that if WP starts making me pissed off, I take a long break
00:02 < David_Stevenson> if I did that, I'd never be here
00:02 < iDM> I tried to educate a Pakistani girl on Pakistans politics. got called a perv.
00:02 < eeekster> it's not like I'll miss the pay
00:02 < a930913> Why does one get pissed /off/ when one gets pissed /on/?
00:03 < eeekster> a930913, it's a idiom
00:03 < eeekster> a930913, it's an idiom <damn fingers>
00:03  * iDM bites eeekster
00:03 < eeekster> iDM, so you're saying she understood?
00:04 < eeekster> iDM gets poisoned?
00:04 < iDM> eeekster no it's pretty hard to change the mentalities of Pakistanis. they are becoming extremist and instead of progressing and opening their mind. they are opposite direction.
00:05 < eeekster> "The upload clearly says that I have permission from the authors" <-- lies and damn lies
00:05 < IDoH> eeekster, I do the same thing. Or, if I don't feel like Wikipedia, I don't do it.
00:05 < eeekster> iDM, that describes most people from the region that I've been friends with
00:05 < iDM> exactly IDoH ends up baking :p
00:06 < IDoH> What do I bake, iDM
00:06 < iDM> Pie and cookies.
00:06 < eeekster> I've been bitched at more for stuff I've done for free in my life than for anything I've been paid for
00:07 < eeekster> and wikipedia is on the top of that pile
00:08 < iDM> I need to drive around. so be back later possibly 10min I need Oreos.
00:09 < iDM> wheels on my rusted car to
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00:09 < iDM> go round and round..
00:20 < IDoH> Heh. Cookies. Pie. Yummy
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00:32 < iDM> back with Oreos and special ingredient.
00:34 < a930913> iDM: Whipped cream? :)
00:35 < iDM> love
00:37 < iDM> I just saw something awesome under Kentucky
00:38 < iDM> recyclable land fill underground.
00:38 < iDM> and ,y I
00:38 < iDM> iPad seems to be missing my spellings.
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00:55 < C\> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Corruption_perception_index_2012.png
00:55 < C\> Lenin, be proud!
00:55 < C\> xP
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00:58 < iDM> David_Stevenson, give me a break, I am just enjoying my holidays, and you want me to edit :P
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01:03 < David_Stevenson> iDM: whaaaat? :P doesn't everybody?
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01:04 < iDM> All I can say is, ding dong the witch is dead.
01:04 < David_Stevenson> which witch
01:05 < iDM> Use your imagination, scarecrow.
01:06 < David_Stevenson> xD
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01:08 < David_Stevenson> I want to finish this article I'm writing but it's four AM and I am getting uninterested
01:08 < David_Stevenson> :<
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01:09 < C\> night
01:09 < David_Stevenson> o/
01:10  * iDM puts David_Stevenson to sleep, and sings a lullaby.
01:10 < David_Stevenson> :<
01:10 < David_Stevenson> I tried, it didn't work :<
01:11 < David_Stevenson> - the lullaby
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01:12 < iDM> May I sing it?
01:12 < David_Stevenson> knock yourself out
01:12 < David_Stevenson> :p
01:13 < iDM> I want to be the very best, Like no one ever was, To catch them is my real test
01:13 < iDM> , To train them is my cause (oooh)
01:13 < iDM>  ....
01:13 < David_Stevenson> o_O
01:13 < David_Stevenson> why am I being sung the Pokemon theme
01:14 < iDM> To sleep.
01:14 < David_Stevenson> I'm not sure that is sleeping music
01:14 < David_Stevenson> xD
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01:25 < iDM> David_Stevenson, did you have coffee again?
01:25 < David_Stevenson> noooo
01:25 < David_Stevenson> just loads of tea
01:25  * tommorris is now sober enough to start adminning.
01:26 < David_Stevenson> tommorris: adminning when not sober is fun though :P
01:26 < iDM> tommorris, long blody time, how are you?
01:26 < iDM> David_Stevenson, tea means going to the loo a lot no?
01:26 < David_Stevenson> just hope when you wake up that you don't see an orange bar
01:26 < David_Stevenson> :P
01:27 < tommorris> iDM: notbad.
01:27 < David_Stevenson> iDM: not necessarily
01:28 < tommorris> I'll never see the orange bar. I'll just get Echos. ;)
01:28 < iDM> Too much info.
01:28 < David_Stevenson> xD
01:29 < iDM> I am playing Lady Gaga (on piano)  one handed and typing, pretty bored.
01:29 < tommorris> what Gaga track?
01:29 < iDM> Bad Romance.
01:29 < iDM> Poker face now
01:29 < Rcsprinter> A talent
01:30 < tommorris> LoveGame ftw. Y'all better respect my disco stick.
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01:31 < iDM> Rcsprinter, want the commons link to something I played ages ago?
01:31 < Rcsprinter> Ok
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01:32 < iDM> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chopin-polonaise-in-a-military.ogg
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01:37 < BritneySpears> Back to work.
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01:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug why hasn't the whitehouse condemn the bombing? I know kerry did but normally you have whitehouse saying something immediately with such things...
01:44 < David_Stevenson> which bombing
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02:09 < legoktm> ]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Possible_copyright_violations :/
02:09 < legoktm> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Possible_copyright_violations *
02:12 < legoktm> Dcoetzee: I hope https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ADupdet&diff=554709118&oldid=508117203 is ok
02:12 < Jetro> Ignore all rules; delete category
02:12 < Jetro> problem solved
02:12 < Jetro> :D
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02:16 < legoktm> heh
02:18 < wctaiwan> (cur | prev) 09:11, 12 May 2013‎ Legoktm (talk | contribs)‎ . . (743 bytes) (-50)‎ . . (because the toolserver took a shit) (undo)
02:18 < wctaiwan> that's one large dump.
02:18 < legoktm> :/
02:18 < legoktm> I want to create a meta template called {{IsTheToolserverUp}}
02:18 < legoktm> and if not
02:18 < wctaiwan> heh
02:19 < wctaiwan> why is it so flaky as of late?
02:19 < legoktm> links after toolserver.org will show a (link may be dead)
02:19 < wctaiwan> it's never been as bad as this year
02:19 < legoktm> BECAUSE IT HAS NO RESOURCES
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02:19 < legoktm> the wmf is trying to kill it
02:19 < legoktm> in favor of wmf labs
02:19 < wctaiwan> what has changed, materially?
02:19 < legoktm> except labs isnt ready for it
02:19 < wctaiwan> I thought they were funding it in full until it's actually shut down
02:19 < legoktm> ha! no
02:19 < legoktm> we wish
02:19 < wctaiwan> (with WMDE and all)
02:19 < legoktm> users go up, hardware gets old
02:19 < wctaiwan> [17:19:22] <wctaiwan>	 what has changed, materially?
02:20 < legoktm> # of users*
02:20 < wctaiwan> why would that have grown?
02:20 < legoktm> people ask for a TS account and they get it?
02:21 < wctaiwan> oh.
02:21 < wctaiwan> .
02:26 < wctaiwan> afk
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02:26 < legoktm> this is bad
02:27 < legoktm> i'm clearing the AfC backlog by deleting copyvios
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02:57  * ToAruShiroiNeko reports legoktm to ANI and complains :p
02:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> what? you are doing something useful :p
02:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> we can't have that!
02:57 < legoktm> :D
02:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> do you know anything about augmented computing and/or relational learning?
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02:59 < legoktm> noooope
03:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> just what do you know? :p
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03:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> UK Education Secretary Michael Gove would vote for Britain to leave the EU if there was a referendum today, he says
04:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> indeed, because UK schools may run out of students at this rate to exploit :p
04:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Enlgish more specifically
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04:04 < iDM> mareklug, my laptop's voltage is 19V but I connected a 24V adapter so far didn't shutdown.
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04:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it could fry the electronics over time
04:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> or explode the batteru
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04:11 < iDM> But my laptop is running for 4 hours.
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04:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> iDM I dont know
04:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> aybe your hardware is compensating for it
04:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it may overheat over time
04:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> could happen in 4 seconds or several hours, possibly would not happen
04:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I'd switch to the right voltage as soon as you can
04:12 < iDM> I did, it went off.
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04:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ?
04:16 < iDM> The laptop switched off. I did what you told me to do.
04:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats weird
04:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> dont know whats the problem then
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04:17 < iDM> No idea, I'll throw it out of the window possibly soon.
04:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> iDM dont
04:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> laptops are not designed to float :p
04:17 < iDM> :(
04:17 < iDM> Issue if the stupid cars weren't downstairs I would have thrown it from the roof.
04:18 < NotASpy> yes, throw it out the window. ToAruShiroiNeko knows nothing of floating laptops.
04:18 < NotASpy> Apple makes ones from Air, it's duty bound by the laws of physics to float.
04:19 < iDM> It's acer
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04:27 < wctaiwan> are interwikis in project space / user space going to be managed by wikidata eventually?
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04:30 < russavia> looks like Australia has made Richard Branson a new "man"
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04:32 < russavia> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/travel/news/sir-richard-branson-dresses-in-air-hostess-uniform-after-losing-bet-to-tony-fernandes/story-e6frg8ro-1226640286214
04:32 < russavia> "As the stunt-loving entrepreneur entered the plane, Aerosmith hit Dude Looks Like a Lady boomed over the internal sound system."
04:32 < russavia> weeeeeee
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04:35 < Dcoetzee> Woooo I got my Ouya and just bought my first Ouya game
04:35 -!- iDM [~Mouse@unaffiliated/idm] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
04:35 < Dcoetzee> (Final Fantasy III)
04:35 < Dcoetzee> And I got the dev kit too :-)
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04:38 < legoktm> [04:27:06 AM] <wctaiwan>	 are interwikis in project space / user space going to be managed by wikidata eventually? <-- project space yes, user space no
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04:38 < wctaiwan> thanks.
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04:38 < buh> [=
04:38 < legoktm> supposedly we're going to get unified user pages
04:38 < wctaiwan> enjoy your universally panned toy >.>
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04:38 < wctaiwan> ew.
04:38 < buh> and legoktm I cant wait until that day
04:38 < legoktm> heh
04:38 < legoktm> i think its stupid
04:38 < buh> whyyyyyy?
04:38 < Dcoetzee> I don't think I'd actually like a unified user page
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04:39 < Dcoetzee> Especially for projects that speak different languages
04:39 < legoktm> i like having a different page for each project
04:39 < Dcoetzee> I might want my user page to actually be, you know, in the local language
04:39 < buh> Dcoetzee: translate ;p
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04:39 < wctaiwan> maybe something like what commons has
04:39 < wctaiwan> it'll still be a bit lame though.
04:39 < Dcoetzee> I'm fine with having a default user page that is shown on all projects where I don't have a local one
04:39 < wctaiwan> wikia has unified user pages >.>
04:39 < legoktm> well
04:40  * iDM snuggles legoktm 
04:40 < legoktm> ULS is going to be forced upon us whether we want it
04:40  * legoktm snuggles iDM 
04:40 < Dcoetzee> I am so excited about my Ouya. It's just working nicely out of the box for me.
04:40 < Dcoetzee> And it's tiny and cute.
04:40 < wctaiwan> legoktm: ULS where?
04:41 < legoktm> wctaiwan: everywhere!
04:41 < wctaiwan> also, it's terrible on wikidata
04:41 < legoktm> yup!
04:41 < wctaiwan> it's slow and glitchy, you can't distinguish between identically named properties, and.. stuff.
04:41 < legoktm> erp
04:41 < legoktm> thats wikidata >.>
04:42 < wctaiwan> I think WMF devs have an unhealthy tendency to implement everything with AJAX >.>
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04:44 < legoktm> $(wctaiwan).ready(die);
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04:45 < wctaiwan> I don't even know what that means.
04:46 < legoktm> neither do I!
04:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> legoktm I think you want $(wctaiwan).death(ready);
04:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> or
04:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> legoktm I think you want $(wctaiwan).death(true);
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04:47 < wctaiwan> if (ToAruShiroiNeko.highlights(wctaiwan) == true) system("kill -9 ToAruShiroiNeko");
04:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you were highlighted?
04:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sorry :(
04:49 < wctaiwan> >.>
04:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I have my highlighter activate only if there is a word that is my nick
04:50 < wctaiwan> I think mine works that way too, but it's intelligent enough to filter out punctuation.
04:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oh
04:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> outsmared by parser :p
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04:51 < legoktm> wctaiwan: you havent upgraded to the official release?
04:51 < wctaiwan> nope
04:51 < wctaiwan> I'll do it when someone packages it
04:51 < wctaiwan> didn't go well when I tried to build it myself
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04:51  * iDM yawns using his own paws infront of his face.
04:53 < legoktm> YuviPanda!
04:53 < legoktm> also, would it be rude if i fixed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Grutness/common.js ?
04:53 < wctaiwan> yes
04:54 < wctaiwan> you're not supposed to edit user js files...
04:54 < legoktm> but its broken!
04:54 < Ushau97> legotkm: I would say it's okay to do a favor for someone without even telling
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04:54 < wctaiwan> I strongly recommend against it.
04:55 < wctaiwan> wikipedians are weird.
04:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> legoktm unless you do something malicious everything is allowed in my book
04:55 < wctaiwan> I'd be pretty annoyed if an admin "fixed" my js for me without telling me
04:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but I was never elected admin of the wikipedias
04:55 < legoktm> well
04:55 < wctaiwan> a page that's supposedly only editable by myself and… oh right, admins.
04:55 < wctaiwan> for good reason.
04:55 < legoktm> i'd let them know
04:55 < wctaiwan> ask them first.
04:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> adminship is like being a cardinal - child molestation I think
04:55 < wctaiwan> ...
04:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> asking caNT HURT
04:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> damn caps lock
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04:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I should do a search on the number of capital letters followed by a lower case 'A'
04:59 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: But some admins *are* children :-P
04:59 < legoktm> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Grutness#User:Grutness.2Fcommon.js rawr
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05:00 < iDM> I think I need anger management
05:01  * Dcoetzee ties iDM to the wall.
05:01 < Dcoetzee> There, that should take care of it.
05:01 < iDM> That would make me go green, and get bigger...
05:01 < Dcoetzee> You should talk to a doctor about that
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05:02 < iDM> Maybe
05:02 < iDM> I had a female stalker, finally I blasted and told her go away.
05:02 < Dcoetzee> :-(
05:02 < Dcoetzee> You okay?
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05:03 < iDM> I got her, http://tinyurl.com/cnzosf7
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05:03 < iDM> I don't really like saying no, and breaking anyone's heart, but this was happening for 2 weeks, enough is enough.
05:03 < elkng> how "papaya" tastes ? does anyone tryed to eat it ? this is photo of "papaya" I found http://www.nieceyroy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/papaya.jpg, is it reminds some other fruit ?
05:04 < iDM> elkng, I had it last night.
05:04 < iDM> elkng, Thai Papaya is different from India and Pakistan.
05:04 < elkng> that page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaya says only about its black seeds, "The black seeds of the papaya are edible and have a sharp, spicy taste. They are sometimes ground and used as a substitute for black pepper", not saying about its tastes
05:04 < iDM> Nope
05:05 < iDM> You have to eat the flesh
05:05 < iDM> not the seeds
05:06 < elkng> thats why I said, that page describes only seeds, and nothing about how flesh tastes, isn't information about how fruits tastes should be included in the page as first priority information ?
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05:08 < iDangerMouse> elkng, that answered your question?
05:09 < closedmouth> > The ripe fruit of the papaya is usually eaten raw, without skin or seeds.
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05:10 < iDangerMouse> Hello closedmouth  long time no see.
05:10 < closedmouth> yes hello
05:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug why isnt redit trying to catch the bombers of this recent well bombing :D
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05:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> that needed punctuation probably
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05:14 < Dcoetzee> Cybervigilantism is generally directed at behavior seen as antisocial rather than violence
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05:16 < iDangerMouse> Well, I think I'll take a sleeping pill and sleep...
05:18 < iDangerMouse> Night night
05:18 < closedmouth> somebody bombed a well?
05:19 < elkng> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=257403 how much that plate of "sushi" could cost ?
05:19 < closedmouth> depends on the restaurant
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05:19 < elkng> more than 20$ ?
05:20 < iDangerMouse> What he said. Some steaks are 120 CAD
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05:21 < elkng> "CAD" mean canadian dollars ?
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05:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> probably
05:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> COD is the OTHER canadian dollar
05:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> elkng sushi can cost as high as as much money exists on the planet
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05:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> like Bald eagle sushi
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06:24 < Maple__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cu_Chi_tunnels - okay, this article is lacking
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06:24 < Maple__> how were the tunnels formed? - by humans?
06:24 < Maple__> - or by, say, uh, thingies that live underground?
06:24 < Maple__> weasels?
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06:27 < closedmouth> dogs
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06:28 < legoktm> http://neilandjay.co.uk/neilandjay.co.uk/wikipedia_page.html
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06:30 < closedmouth> eww
06:30 < iDM> What did I miss?
06:32 < legoktm> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Possible_copyright_violations <-- needs help
06:32 < Maple__> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/12/nyregion/doubts-about-detective-haunt-50-murder-cases.html - "crack-addicted prostitute". such an RS.
06:32 < iDM> I am busy with multi-tasking, and {{retired}} just edit anonymously :D
06:33 < a930913> Why isn't there a bot that shouts at users when they leave a sig in an article?
06:34 < Maple__> Isn't there an edit filter?
06:36 < legoktm> Maple__: got disabled
06:36 < legoktm> a930913: the test-edit bots should
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06:41 < closedmouth> Maple__: both statements of fact
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07:09 < worm_that_turned> ello folks. Anyone know where the ref toolbar has gone?
07:10 < iDM> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Referencing_for_beginners
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07:12 < smtchahal> How do I know I've got the cloak?
07:12 < smtchahal> I applied for it yesterday. No message or anything so far.
07:12 < kelapstick> Still there for me. Sometimes I accidentally select advanced or special characters and it changes though. Just have to select cite again
07:12 < closedmouth> /whois smtchahal
07:13 < worm_that_turned> Nope it's completely gone for me... odd
07:13 < kelapstick> Preferences?
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07:14 < worm_that_turned> Checked them.
07:14 < worm_that_turned> I see Jason Quinn was playing with the reftoolbar this morning, but I don't see anything he's done that might have blown it up.
07:15 < kelapstick> It's under edit and edit toolbar I think. But mine still works.
07:15 < kelapstick> *editing
07:16 < Carly> happy day!!!
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07:23 < Carly> hiiii
07:24 < Carly> happy day!! :)
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07:26 < smtchahal> After I submitted the cloak request (on Google forms), I was asked to wait for a message or something if anything regarding the submitted information is disputed. How will I get this message? On my talk page? Via email?
07:27  * Carly has a pretty child
07:27 < Carly> xd
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07:29 < wctaiwan> Carly: aren't you a bit young for that XD
07:29 < Carly> No
07:29 < Carly> I am pregnant* 3 months
07:29 < wctaiwan> o_O okay.
07:29 < Carly> wctaiwan why?
07:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oh, you have a parasite? :p
07:30 < closedmouth> smtchahal: it usually takes a few days for a cloak to be applied
07:30 < wctaiwan> iunno. here at least people don't have children until they're a fair bit older.
07:30 < wctaiwan> most of them, anyway.
07:30 < smtchahal> closedmouth: upto a week, it said... I should wait, then.
07:31 < closedmouth> yes, just wait
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07:31 < smtchahal> I don't have much problem in revealing my IP address though; it keeps changing almost everyday...
07:31  * Carly was kidding
07:31 < Carly> xd
07:32 < wctaiwan> oh good.
07:32 < Carly> :)
07:32 < closedmouth> yeah you don't usually find out you're pregnant at 3 months
07:33 < Carly> ha I am too young
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07:33 < Carly> but I will be 18 soon
07:33 < Carly> xd
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08:04 < Maple__> o^-
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08:06 < Qcoder00> Greetings humans
08:06 < Qcoder00> I am about to start vandalisations on images, Any suggestions? XD
08:06 < Jetro> Greetings!
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08:07 < Jetro> iDM|Annoyed whatsap
08:07 < Carly> hi Qcoder00
08:07 < Carly> hi Jetro :)
08:07 < Jetro> hey carlycarlcarl
08:07 < Qcoder00> (Seriously though- In terms of long term image cleanup where should I start?)
08:07 < Carly> Jetro is today in U.S mom's day?
08:07 < iDM|Annoyed> Qcoder00, Knock yourself out. I haven't clicked on any Wikipedia link since a month, however I clicked on commons :P
08:07 < Jetro> wat
08:07 < Jetro> I don't know
08:08 < Carly> here is the mom's day
08:08 < Carly> :D
08:08 < Jetro> Mother's day is actual, one-hundred percent non-cynical commercial day
08:08 < Carly> we'll cook for her
08:09 < Carly> :D
08:09 < Carly> Jetro punch
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08:10 < Carly> Hi NotASpy :)
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08:14 < Jetro> Carly that's nice
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08:15 < NotASpy> Hi Carly
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08:15 < Carly> Jetro :0
08:16 < Carly> NotASpy how are you?
08:16 < Jetro> wat
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08:16 < NotASpy> musn't grumble.
08:16 < Carly> jetro what is nic3?
08:17 < Jetro> I have no idea
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08:18 < Carly> Jetro Haha :|
08:18 < Jetro> What
08:18 < Jetro> I don't know
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08:18 < Jetro> stop laughing
08:19 < Carly> who is laughing Jetro
08:19 < Jetro> [17:18:08] <Carly> Jetro Haha :|
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08:19 < Carly> Jetro I am not laughing
08:19 < Carly> I was laughing
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08:21 < Carly> Jetro why do you think mom's day is only a commercial day? have you even think about Christmas too?
08:21 < Carly> ;)
08:22 < Jetro> No, it is
08:22 < Jetro> it was invented by card companies or flower companies or something
08:22 < Jetro> I know some people hate Christmas because they say it's a buyng feast, but at least that's a real occasion
08:22 < Carly> Chocolate companies*
08:22 < Jetro> I mean, nothing wrong with appreciating your mum once in a while :)
08:23 < Carly> Jetro I like Christmas and you seem hate everything
08:23 < Carly> :/
08:23 < Jetro> No
08:23 < Jetro> I said I was non-cynical, that "mother's day" is invented by companies to make money
08:23 < Jetro> fact
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08:24 < Carly> Jetro the last friday was the student day in here
08:24 < Carly> :)
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08:26 < Jetro> yay
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08:26 < closedmouth> fucking freenode
08:27 < Jetro> indeed
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08:37 < Qcoder00> closedmouth:  ??
08:37 < Qcoder00> Please don't swear
08:37 < Maple__> #notcensored
08:37 < Qcoder00> Please dont f***ing swewar You ***** ?
08:37 < Qcoder00> XD
08:38 < Qcoder00> Maple__: Wait until I complete the joke next time?
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08:50 < Cncmaster> Good morning all.
08:52 < iDM|Annoyed> Jetro, Going fishing anytime soon?
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08:53 < Jetro> nope :D
08:53 < rindolf> Hi all.
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09:08 < iDM|Annoyed> Well, I am off for a day or two.
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09:13 < Peter-C> any lawyers around
09:13 < Peter-C> ?
09:13 < closedmouth> i hope not
09:13 < Peter-C> :/
09:15 < Cncmaster> Peter-C: another user making blank legal threats towards you?
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09:16 < Peter-C> No
09:16 < Peter-C> I've been accused of kidnapping someone
09:16 < Jetro> wth
09:16 < Cncmaster> woah
09:16 < Peter-C> Yeeea
09:16 < mattbuck> who did you kidnap?
09:16 < Demiurge1000> Peter-C: That woman from Scotland? Today's featured article?
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09:17 < Peter-C> ?
09:17 -!- Shocky [~gasperGCQ@sxmc11.rdg.ac.uk] has joined #wikipedia-en
09:17 < Peter-C> Long story short, patients father was mad at me for no good reason, requested me to release his son who is sick
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09:17 < Carly-> hi
09:17 < Peter-C> Mother wants us to treat and transport
09:18 < Peter-C> Now the dad wants to sue me and my crew
09:18 < Peter-C> ^_^
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09:18 < Carly-> xd
09:18 < Cncmaster> I've seen plenty of cases where one parents is fine with treatment and the other is not.
09:18 < Cncmaster> parent*
09:19 < Peter-C> BUT we transported to a hospital
09:19 < Peter-C> and the father threatened us with gestures
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09:21  * Carly- cooks
09:22 < Cncmaster> Peter-C: when did this happen?
09:23  * Carly- cries
09:23 < a930913> I keep thinking that stuff is broken; there is so little vandalism :)
09:23 < a930913> Carly-: Onions?
09:23 < Carly-> yes
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09:24 < a930913> \o/
09:25  * Carly- potatos
09:25 < Carly-> :D
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09:31 < a930913> Wait, /is/ there something broken? :/
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09:32 < darev> Hello!
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09:33 < rindolf> darev: hi.
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09:37 < Elecbullet> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gayranger&redirect=no
09:37 < Elecbullet> Redirect to "Gameranger", an internet gaming service
09:37 < Elecbullet> afd?
09:39 < closedmouth> rfd
09:39 < Elecbullet> not speedy though?
09:40 < Elecbullet> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Celebrity_Oops&redirect=no is fun too
09:40 < Qcoder00> You get gay gamers?XD
09:41  * Qcoder00 ponders what gay games look like
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10:16 < Anna_Frodesiak> could someone pls point me to the thread about toolserver being down?
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10:19 < russavia> it would be a long thread, because it's always down as of late
10:19 < Anna_Frodesiak> oh
10:20 < Anna_Frodesiak> I've just noticed it down for the last couple of days but never before. now it's all gone, from articles created tool to reflinks
10:20 < Anna_Frodesiak> is there a centralized discussion somewhere?
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10:26 < Anna_Frodesiak> ok. i guess now. anyhow, thanks russavia :)
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10:29 < Qcoder00> Well maybe it's time tools people rely on were brought onto WMF infrastructure?
10:29 < Qcoder00> Properly
10:30 < Thehelpfulone> that's the point of labs Qcoder00 :)
10:30 < Qcoder00> Yeah
10:31 < Qcoder00> Although when people mention a Wikimedia lab... I tend to think of a lot of mad scientists
10:31 < Qcoder00> ;)
10:31 < Qcoder00> " We must do this for SCIENCE!! And the People that are Still Alive!!!"
10:31 < Qcoder00> XD
10:31 < harej> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mad_scientist.svg
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10:32 < bazinga> bill nye should've been casted in breaking bad.
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11:33 < nas> I found a sock puppet.
11:33 < nas> User:Twardy18
11:33 < nas> and
11:33 < nas> User:Thebigbangtheory18
11:34 < FunPika> nas: I think that should be reported to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations
11:35 < nas> Would there be enough evidence?
11:36 < NotASpy> if there's not enough evidence for SPI, there's not really enough evidence to block them.
11:36 < nas> Just pasted the same thing
11:36 < nas> on the same aritcle
11:36 < nas> and similar name
11:37 < nas> "18"
11:37 < Matthew_> nas: What's the worst that could happen if you report?  You get told "no".  SODOIT! :)
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11:37 < nas> I bet they forgot the password to their other account.
11:39 < Demiurge1000> It's only worth reporting if they're actually doing something wrong
11:39 < Demiurge1000> e.g. block evasion or vote-stacking or excessive chubbiness
11:39 < nas> ^ another reason why I'm not
11:42 < NotASpy> both blocked, normal service can now be resumed.
11:42 < Demiurge1000> fuck, are you a spy or something?
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11:43 < NotASpy> ...or something.
11:45 < nas> what
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12:10 < Qcoder00> Question: Prior to the internet did you get trolls?
12:10 < Qcoder00> ;)
12:12 < mattbuck> unsure
12:12 < mattbuck> when did rush limbaugh get a radio show?
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12:14 < QueenOfFrance> mattbuck: didn't that happen like 87 years ago?
12:14 < QueenOfFrance> oh lol I see the discussion now :)
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12:16 < BlastHardcheese> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal
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12:18 < Qcoder00> Yes I thought it might be 18th Century :)
12:18 < Qcoder00> XD
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12:20 < Qcoder00> Considering 18th century politics in the UK could be 'passionate'
12:20 < Qcoder00> ..
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12:48 < darev> n8
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12:58 < Dannyboy1209> Hello
12:59 < SigmaWP> Hi again
12:59 < Dannyboy1209> Hello guts
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13:04 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Selena_Gomez#better_picture
13:06 < Carly> Selena gomez? -_-
13:06  * Carly dies
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13:09 < mareklug> NotASpy  Thehelpfulone ^
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13:09 < russavia> AffCom is planning on spending $12,600 in hong kong for their junket -- http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAffiliations_Committee%2FResolutions%2FBudget_request_for_2013_annual_meeting_%E2%80%93_April_2013&diff=5480306&oldid=5480293 -- quite outrageous i must say
13:10 < mareklug> yes, 12k is a lot of server
13:10 < russavia> that's for their accommodation only!
13:11 < mareklug> can't they sleep in hostels?
13:11 < russavia> read my response mareklug
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13:11 < Thehelpfulone> varnent, ^
13:11 < russavia> they can stay in the dorms for $27 per night
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13:12 < BlastHardcheese> like poor people?
13:12 < Carly> Yes
13:12 < mareklug> they are poor people.  except when they travel to Manias.
13:12 < Qcoder00> Hmm
13:12 < Qcoder00> There an element of 'graft' at Manias?
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13:12 < Carly> What is Manias?
13:13 < mareklug> indeed.  this is very unpleasant and unbecoming, but alas, endemic in wealthy nonprofits.
13:13 < BlastHardcheese> it's what my psychiatrist talked to me about ;)
13:13 < russavia> $40,000 in total -- granted airfares can make up a bit -- i can price it for each of them in the ballpark knowing where they live
13:13 < mareklug> Carly los Manias, la Mania
13:13 < mareklug> Wikimaina
13:13 < mareklug> las Manias
13:13 < Carly> Oh okay I want to travel too
13:13 < russavia> one member who lives in manila can get from MNL-HKG-MNL for AU$300 return, for example
13:14 < Carly> To Hong Kong :D
13:14 < Carly> Mareklug are you going to Wikimania 2013?
13:14 < russavia> i don't think mareklug drinks the kool aid
13:14 < mareklug> Carly I am too poor to travel to Hong Kong, even if I slept on the beach.
13:14 < Carly> O.o really?
13:15 < mareklug> I prefer to spend the same money on a new iMac
13:15 < Carly> You have a iphone iMac and all apple products and you are poorer
13:15 < Carly> Xd mareklug
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13:15 < mareklug> Carly indeed.  but thanks to the fact I don't have you for a novia, I save a looooot of money
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13:16 < Carly> We can make a camping
13:16 < Carly> In Hong Kong mareklug
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13:16 < mareklug> a camp, or do camping
13:16 < Carly> Yes
13:16 < Carly> Sleep and enjoy the street
13:17 < Carly> Mareklug ^_^
13:17 < Jetro> Equality street
13:17 < mareklug> Thehelpfulone so -- anything aout the matter I linked?
13:17 < Jetro> babeh
13:17 < mareklug> about *
13:17 < Carly> Jetro is here¡
13:17 < Thehelpfulone> I don't know what you want me to say about that mareklug? the page isn't protected
13:17 < Thehelpfulone> fully protected*
13:17 < Jetro> No he isn't
13:17 < Carly> Jetro punch
13:17 < mareklug> Thehelpfulone please consult the ANI in progress concerning the user.  The page we can manage
13:17 < Carly> :)
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13:18 < Thehelpfulone> I'm a bit busy atm for ANI mareklug sorry :(
13:18 < Carly> What are the schoolarship on.Wikimania?
13:18 < mareklug> and you call yourself the helpful one. :)  I trust I can count on you later, though.
13:18 < Thehelpfulone> heh, yes :)
13:19 < Carly> Scholarship*
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13:23 < Carly-> What is scholarships in Wikimania
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13:25 < Carly-> O.O
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13:28 < Nnemo> Hello people
13:28 < Nnemo> All the links to maps on Wikipedia are down
13:28 < Nnemo> Can someone kick the server, please ?
13:28 < Carly-> O.o
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13:28 < Carly-> Hi nemo
13:29 < Nnemo> Hello Carly Simon :-)
13:29 < JohnLewis> Maps, Sounds like toolserver to me.
13:29 < Nnemo> like this : http://www.google.com/url?q=http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search%3Fq%3Dcache:4ERX6NuaKccJ:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lado_Enclave%252Blado%2Benclave%26oe%3Dutf-8%26hl%3Dfr%26ct%3Dclnk&sa=U&ei=DPuPUZOTLZCZhQes54C4AQ&ved=0CBwQIDAA&sig2=8BU-FEkhoUq3WQQWJsxAqA&usg=AFQjCNEGrvWipG_eRgI1MFUS6zxEmdTkEA
13:29 < Nnemo> no
13:29 < Carly-> Why simon? nemo
13:30 < Nnemo> http://toolserver.org/~geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Lado_Enclave&params=4_50_N_29_50_E_source:kolossus-frwiki
13:30 < JohnLewis> Carly-: Your name is now Simon :)
13:30 < Carly-> Why Simon? JonhLewis
13:30 < Carly-> ????
13:31 < Carly-> JohnLewis
13:31 < JohnLewis> Nnemo: Toolserver, Yes. Problems with Willow is causing it. Should be dealt with as soon as nfs-services are rebooted.
13:31 < JohnLewis> Carly-: I don't know.
13:31 < Carly-> :|
13:32 < Carly-> Roarrr!
13:32 < mareklug> "I don't care if you are incompetent / I will be yours until the bitter end"  -- Amanda Palmer, The Dresden Dolls, "Christopher Lydon"
13:33 < mareklug> erm, that was to be "incontinent"
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13:34 < Nnemo> Who is this Willow ? Why is he causing problems ?
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13:34 < JohnLewis> Nnemo: It is a toolserver cluster. (I think? or Server/service) Really you will have to asked some that works with toolserver for a real answer.
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13:36 < Nnemo> OK, John
13:36 < mareklug> Nnemo #wikimedia-toolserver    it is being intermittent.  not loading now at all
13:37 < Nnemo> Bye
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14:02 < a930913> What happened between 1000 and 1030 UTC that caused a 50% increase in edits? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Vandalism_information&curid=10872112&action=history
14:03 < nonsenseferret> a930913, timezones?
14:03 < a930913> nonsenseferret: What about them?
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14:05 < abudayeh3> hello.. i make an article for my father which doesn't meet criteria and it is nominated for deletion.. is there any way to keep it?
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14:05 < abudayeh3> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Saad_Abudayeh
14:05 < nonsenseferret> bribery and corruption
14:05 < Krenair> Make it meet the criteria?
14:05 < abudayeh3> Krenair:  i cant find sources they want :(
14:05 < Krenair> Although you probably won't be able to change the issues with notability.
14:05 < abudayeh3> someone vote it
14:06 < a930913> abudayeh3: Find someone else who thinks that your father is notable enough to write the article, and who can find reliable sources to back it with.
14:06 < abudayeh3> they delete it in arabic version of wikipedia
14:06 < Censored_> anyone here I can ask a question to?
14:06 < abudayeh3> a930913:  Krenair  can u help? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Saad_Abudayeh
14:06 < Krenair> abudayeh3, that seems pretty WP:CANVASy...
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14:08 < a930913> abudayeh3: Has your father been in any newspaper?
14:09 < Krenair> "As of 2012, Abudayeh authored a weekly column in the online Jordanian newspaper Ammonnews, as well as a daily radio show on Amen FM, a local Jordanian radio station."
14:09 < Krenair> Sounds like he has?
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14:10 < abudayeh6> dc
14:10 < abudayeh6> ?
14:10 < a930913> abudayeh3: Has your father been in any newspaper?
14:10 < a930913> abudayeh6: ^
14:11 < abudayeh6> a930913:  he writes articles for electronic news in Jordan
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14:12 < a930913> abudayeh6: So add sources from the news.
14:12 < abudayeh6> a930913:  it is not news
14:12 < a930913> abudayeh6: "His Majesty King Abdullah II conferred the Independence Medal... on Abudayeh"
14:12 < abudayeh6> articles
14:13 < a930913> abudayeh6: Got any official documentation of that?
14:13 < abudayeh6> a930913:  no source
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14:14 < a930913> abudayeh6: The problem with that, is that without a source, while your father could well have that medal, so too could I claim my pet monkey has it. And I don't even have a pet monkey.
14:15 < abudayeh6> a930913:  what stupid?
14:15 < abudayeh6> u monkey
14:15 < abudayeh6> \k
14:15 < abudayeh6> i lost the artice in arabic version and i will now lose here stupid
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14:16 < Krenair> Please don't call a930913 stupid, abudayeh6
14:17 < abudayeh6> Krenair: u dumb ass
14:17 < Jasper_Deng> !ops
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14:18 < a930913> 22:13 <abudayeh6> i will give u money
14:18  * a930913 sighs.
14:18 < nonsenseferret> i told you - bribery and corruption
14:18 < Krenair> <abudayeh6> money?
14:18 < nonsenseferret> that was always the answer
14:18 < Krenair> <abudayeh6> just a little word: keep
14:18 < Jasper_Deng> (s)he was PM spamming last night too
14:19 < Krenair> I got basically the same thing.
14:19 < nonsenseferret> how much are they willing to pay?
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14:19 < Jasper_Deng> Pink|away stuck a {{notavote}} on the AfD, so we should be good though
14:19 < nonsenseferret> what is the going rate for that sort of thing
14:19 < a930913> nonsenseferret: 0.05BTC?
14:19 < nonsenseferret> what is a bitcoin worth ?
14:20 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
14:20 < nonsenseferret> more than that surely - we almost guarantee people a result in the first page of google search - you have to pay a lot of money for that elsewhere i reckon
14:20 < nonsenseferret> underselling
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14:21 < Krenair> nonsenseferret, a bitcoin is worth about £74 from mtgox at the moment.
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14:22 < Jasper_Deng> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:An_article_about_yourself_isn%27t_necessarily_a_good_thing
14:22  * a930913 is tempted to write "'''Keep''' Highly convincing argument about money." :p
14:22 < nonsenseferret> so 74.00 times 0.05
14:22 < evilgohan2[NullR> MSNBC: Shooting at Mother's Day Parade in New Orleans. 12 Reported Dead.
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14:22 < nonsenseferret> can i vote Keep - here is my vote where is my cash
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14:22 < JohnLewis> nonsenseferret: 148?
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14:23 < a930913> Oh yeah, I forgot bitcoin burst. nonsenseferret, perhaps 0.2BTC?
14:23 < evilgohan2[NullR> Huffington Post: Mother's Day Parade Shooting: At Least 12 Shot During New Orleans Festivites
14:24 < evilgohan2[NullR> http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/nopd-12-hurt-orleans-parade-shooting-19163974
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14:25 < a930913> Wow that guy's a douche. I was helping him in PM, even finding sources for him to use, and he's still being abusive.
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14:25 < Jasper_Deng> a930913: it's no use
14:25 < Jasper_Deng> either set user mode +R or /ignore him
14:26 < a930913> Hmm, I should troll him... Any suggestions?
14:26 < Jasper_Deng> (and if he's PM-spamming everyone on the net, he could get k-lined)
14:26 < Jasper_Deng> don't troll him
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14:28 < JohnLewis> Jasper_Deng: K-lines :) Oh the fun.
14:28 < Logan_> Hello, Mrs. Gorilla.
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14:34 < Dcoetzee> evilgohan2: I'm glad no deaths were reported
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14:46 < PinkAmpersand> Jasper_Deng: remember that guy who used to beg me for help on his company's article?
14:46 < Jasper_Deng> yep it was him
14:46 < Jasper_Deng> wait
14:46 < Jasper_Deng> oh
14:46  * Jasper_Deng remembers
14:46 < Jasper_Deng> PinkAmpersand: same person?
14:46 < PinkAmpersand> and then wound up getting pissed at me when I told him it's inappropriate to ask someone to go and like your company's Facebook page
14:46  * Jasper_Deng found that IP familiar
14:46 < PinkAmpersand> that guy was ayushh.dhatta (spelling?)
14:47 < Jasper_Deng> that rings a bell
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14:47 < Jasper_Deng> last night I had to ask an oper about k-lining this user due to PM spamming
14:47 < Jasper_Deng> but he/she left before action was needed
14:47 < IDoH> abu again/
14:47 < IDoH> And hey guys. o/
14:48 < a930913> IDoH: \o
14:48 < IDoH> hey a930913.
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15:06 < Bradford> Thanks :)
15:06 < Bradford> I will follow the rules of the channel
15:07 < Qcoder00> evilgohan2:  A Parade shooting doesn;t suprise me
15:07 < Qcoder00> Re your news link
15:07 < Fluffernutter> That goes under ALL nicks, Bradford. Even if you pretend you're someone else, you have to follow the rules.
15:07 < Qcoder00> Hi Fluffernutter
15:07 < Qcoder00> Fluffernutter:  You are admin right?
15:08 < Bradford> ?
15:08 < Bradford> good, okay
15:08 < Fluffernutter> if it's in relation to images/files, Qcoder00, i'm no use to you
15:08 < Qcoder00> Nah it's good
15:09 < Bradford> Fluffernutter:   to the I put a skip to avoid problems
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15:09 < Qcoder00> Fluffernutter: I was feeling the other day that sometimes admin burn out
15:09 < Qcoder00> And there ought to be mechanisms to catch this
15:09 < Fluffernutter> Qcoder00, admins burn out quite regularly. It's depressing :/
15:10 < Qcoder00> Are there process for catching it?
15:10 < Fluffernutter> not really. There's [[WP:WER]], but they tend to focus on non-admins and disruptive users
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15:12 < IDoH> Perhaps WER can have admin/'crat of the week
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15:13 < IDoH> I notice they have editor of the week. Perhaps the admin/'crat of the week can attract admins/'crats that need help.
15:13 < lbenedix> is it possible to get apihighlimits for a 'normal' account?
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15:13 < Antuan> hola
15:13 < Bradford> Hi
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15:14 < IDoH> Hey harej, thineantiquepen, Guest72776, and Antuan.
15:14 < lbenedix> I'm working for a university, maybe researcher is a possible group
15:14 < JohnLewis> Hey IDoH.
15:14 < thineantiquepen> Hi IDoH.
15:14 < IDoH> Hey JohnLewis.
15:14 < IDoH> I get the impression that abu came back recently?
15:14 < Qcoder00> ibendix: What do you intend doing that means mass access?
15:15 < lbenedix> right not I'm looking for bot contributions
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15:15 < JohnLewis> IDoH: Abu?
15:15 < IDoH> You know that user who was PM spamming last night?
15:15 < JohnLewis> A yes.
15:15 < lbenedix> It's possible with the 500 responselimit, but firing 10x less requests would be nice
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15:16 < JohnLewis> Did it today. As well as swearing and personally attacking users via here, #wikipedia and PM. IDoH
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15:16 < Jasper_Deng> he might come back
15:16 < IDoH> Oh.
15:16 < Jasper_Deng> ban was just taken of
15:16 < IDoH> K-lined yet?
15:16 < Jasper_Deng> idk
15:16 < Jasper_Deng> only an oper can say so
15:16 < Guest72776> Hey IDoH
15:17 < IDoH> How are ya, Guest72776?
15:17 < Fluffernutter> what's this, IDoH / Jasper_Deng?
15:17 < Guest72776> good just went for a walk
15:17 < Guest72776> are u supposed to reg nicks in here
15:17 < IDoH> Someone who was cussing, attacking, canvassing, and PM-spamming, Fluffernutter.
15:17 < Fluffernutter> gee, sounds like good wholesome fun
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15:17 < IDoH> Heh, I know
15:18 < mareklug> Heh you know what
15:18 < IDoH> and in canvassing, xe was also violating COI
15:18 < IDoH> yes, mareklug.
15:18 < IDoH> ?
15:18 < mareklug> ?
15:18 < JohnLewis> IDoH: Due to canvassing, I just said delete on the AfD.
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15:18 < IDoH> You might've just fed the troll, JohnLewis.
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15:19 < JohnLewis> IDoH:Meh. I never responded to them, just went and voted deletion. Regardless of it.
15:19 < lbenedix> what do I have to do, to become a member of the researcher group?
15:20 < IDoH> Yeah, but xe WANTED us to vote on the AfD discussion, and is probably watching the page constantly.
15:20 < JohnLewis> lbenedix: I think that you need to be in the research committee.
15:20 < JohnLewis> IDoH: They wanted us to vote keep ;)
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15:21 < IDoH> It may not matter, JohnLewis. Any attention is good attention for people like that.
15:21 < JohnLewis> IDoH: Oh well.
15:21 < Qcoder00> Look at me ! Wikipedia Responded most graciously!! XD
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15:21 < Qcoder00> XD
15:21 < Qcoder00> :(
15:22 < JohnLewis> lbenedix: For users to have that group, I also thing they need to be approved by the Wikimedia Foundation for access as it does avoid the need of a RfA-like process.
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15:23 < enigmuriatic> is the pmid citation bot down?
15:23 < enigmuriatic> i made some edits with the pmid citation  template like seven hours ago that haven't been converted yet
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15:23 < JohnLewis> enigmuriatic: If it runs of toolserver, Yes. It is down.
15:23 < enigmuriatic> it does
15:23 < enigmuriatic> it'll pick up where it left off when it comes back up, right?
15:23 < JohnLewis> It is down then.
15:23 < JohnLewis> I think so.
15:24 < eeekster> what's going on with toolserver?
15:24 < enigmuriatic> good, that'd be a major pain otherwise
15:25 < enigmuriatic> yeah, what's happening?
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15:25 < JohnLewis> eeekster: From the forwarded email into a mailing list I follow, They are unable to restart nfs-service on Willow.
15:25 < lbenedix> researcher dont have so many more rights than normal users: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights#researcher
15:26 < mareklug> but /np is a no-op with the Wikipedia thingee enabled in add-ons
15:26 < JohnLewis> lbenedix: They have access to certain privileges which can only be given a) through a successful RfA-like process b) explicit approval of the foundation.
15:26 < mareklug> ditto for /itunes
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15:27 < mareklug> Currently spinning(null) by (null) from the album (null)
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15:27 < Jeske_Couriano> Nonono, it'
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15:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug wikipedia with zynga addons? :D
15:27 < koishi> wow, this guy is really mad over a logo
15:27 < IDoH> Interesting what we attract, isn't it, koishi?
15:28 < IDoH> And hi to you and SigmaWP.
15:28 < SigmaWP> IDoH: hi
15:28 < Jeske_Couriano> Nonono, it's "Currently spinning [REDACTED] by [DATA EXPUNGED] from the album ████████
15:28 < IDoH> :-)
15:28 < SigmaWP> I dream of coal balls
15:28 < enigmuriatic> is there any intro for people looking to be serious wikipedia editors?
15:28 < koishi> worse than that, he's really really mad over /inconsistencies/ that /he's causing/
15:28 < SigmaWP> said no one ever
15:28 < mareklug> ]/np
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15:28  * mareklug is not playing anything in iTunes.
15:28 < IDoH> hey Prodego.
15:28 < SigmaWP> enigmuriatic: Just edit all the stuff
15:28 < mareklug> no np aint working
15:28 < koishi> above all of this, /he's a long-time member with high reputation/
15:28 < Prodego> hi
15:28 < mareklug> oh well, maybe it is.
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15:28 < koishi> i can't do this anymore guys
15:28 < IDoH> enigmuriatic: Adopt-a-user, if it exists still.
15:28 < koishi> i can't deal with people like this
15:28 < SigmaWP> You assimilate into wiki culture quickly
15:28 < koishi> i just want my own damned wiki
15:29 < Prodego> then do it
15:29 < lbenedix> JohnLewis: can you tell me what exactly I have to do to become a member of the researcher group?
15:29 < enigmuriatic> i've been doing it for a while but i've never come across any real tutorial for how to go about things and format properly
15:29 < koishi> but i don't know enough
15:29 < JohnLewis> IDoH: AAU does still exist however I rarely see any serious adoptees come along :/
15:29 < koishi> and wikipedia is too big
15:29 < enigmuriatic> does everyone just learn as they go from wikipedia pages?
15:29 < SigmaWP> yep
15:29 < koishi> so if i tried to make my own thing, most of it would come from wikipedia, and no one would bother to read it anyway
15:29 < SigmaWP> enigmuriatic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Noticeboards
15:30 < SigmaWP> Click a few of the links that catch your eye
15:30 < SigmaWP> and you'll have a general idea of how stuff goes around here
15:30 < JohnLewis> lbenedix: To my memory, Ask for it off the Rsearch Committee or email someone such as Philippe about requirements around it since a non admins have access to deletion related permissions is a thing Legal do not approve of.
15:30 < IDoH> enigmuriatic: Ask specific questions somewhere.
15:30 < koishi> idoh: also hi
15:31 < koishi> sorry, i'm just so pissed off right now
15:31 < shimgray> lbenedix, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Index
15:31 < koishi> he's got to be from the clg wiki or something
15:31 < koishi> this guy
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15:31 < koishi> it's the only way he could be so fucking ignorant
15:31 < koishi> so fucking contradictory, so fucking /pointless/
15:32 < Sarcasm> I seem to have missed a party
15:32 < Sarcasm> what's going on?
15:32 < Censored_> SigmaWP!
15:32 < koishi> random guy just getting mad at wp
15:32 < koishi> again
15:32 < koishi> also new guy wanting help
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15:49 < Demiurge1000> eh?
15:49 < Demiurge1000> We still using English in this channel?
15:49 < bazinga> what the fuck
15:50 < bazinga> SigmaWP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jerry1989rain.gif why does this go to a different image but isn't a redirect
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15:53 < koishi> oh my god he literally ejected himself
15:53 < koishi> I FUCKING KNEW IT
15:53 < koishi> HE'S A GOD DAMNED FRAUD
15:53 < koishi> HACK
15:53 < koishi> CHEAT
15:53 < foks> whut
15:53 < koishi> i am going to completely ignore this guy. he is no better than a vandal
15:53 < SigmaWP> bazinga: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Jerry1989rain.gif&redirect=no
15:53 < koishi> foks: idk some idiot on wp i'm raging about
15:53 < foks> i... see
15:53 < koishi> keeps trying to outsmart me with dumbness
15:54 < bazinga> SigmaWP: OK but why was it picked up by FTCG?
15:54 < SigmaWP> no ideé
15:54 < Fluffernutter> what in the world is going on
15:55 < SigmaWP> no ideé
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15:56 < koishi> eéeéeéeéeéeéeé
15:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> SigmaWP you IDoCB?
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16:08  * mareklug is now playing "Battle of the Epping Forest" by Genesis from the ridiculously excellent album https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selling%20England%20by%20the%20Pound (1973, remastered 2007, FLAC) on my stereo via optical link from his iMac to an outboard high-fidellty DAC to a vintage amplifier hooked up to two huge vintage acoustic suspension tower speakers, Synergistics S-72As.  Need mareklug say more...
16:08  * Jasper_Deng yawns
16:10 < Fluffernutter> that's quite an overshare
16:11 < foks> literally nobody cares
16:11 < mareklug> Fluffernutter considering that I just hooked it all up yesterday and did not expect it to work, and it obviates my purchase of a $300 modern receiver, it is worth sharing.
16:12 < mareklug> foks you did not even KNOW the iMac as early as 2008 had an optical out with a laser hidden inside its headphone analog mini-RCA outlet.  But hey, it does.
16:12 < foks> so, so many fucks I don't give
16:12 < foks> ;)
16:12 < bazinga> hey foks, would you mind running some deletions for me?
16:12 < foks> I would mind
16:12  * foks is totally frazzled
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16:13  * bazinga gives foks a cookie
16:13 < mareklug> foks it means you can bypass the digital sound card on your mac and feed pure signal at no distortion over optic fibre to a high fidelity DAC and then do anything with it.  In my case, play it via RCA cables on 1970s high quality electronics to be heard on 1970s high quality speakers.
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16:14 < bazinga> mareklug: Leave him alone
16:14 < mareklug> bazinga why?  he has a mac
16:14 < foks> mareklug, why not on 2013 speakers
16:14 < bazinga> A person owning a mac does not mean they want to hear you blab on.
16:14 < foks> livin' in the paaast man
16:15 < mareklug> foks living in the present, using the best technologies available, maaaan.
16:15  * foks doesn't own any speaker
16:15 < foks> +s
16:15 < foks> because why would i
16:16 < foks> I hear music fine through my laptop
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16:16 < mareklug> foks of course, if you meant listening to Genesis from 1973 vs. your 2013 douchebag electronic rock unshaven band music, well…  that is just gustibus non est disputandum
16:16 < mareklug> foks your laptop has the crappiest speakers on a mac
16:16 < foks> 1. Genesis are pish
16:17 < foks> 2. Speaking Latin just makes you sound liek a cunt
16:17 < mareklug> Genesis might NOW be pish and ever since Steve Hackett left them, but they were not pish in 1973.
16:17 < foks> 3. so what?
16:17 < foks> it's no longer 1973
16:17 < foks> thankfully
16:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C88Ydagh0Q
16:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> woha!
16:17 < mareklug> 2.  it is in the English Oxford dictionary, so it is part of English, like "a priori".  Don't be so undereducated.
16:18 < foks> > doesn't speak latin to make himself sound smart
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16:18 < foks> > is undereducated
16:18 < mareklug> 3.  So it isn't.  But good music comes form 1973, such as Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd, or "Angie" by Rolling Stones, or "Dyer Maker" by Led Zeppelin
16:18 < foks> all of which I dislike
16:18 < foks> so there's that
16:19 < mareklug> foks is there anything good you do like?
16:19 < foks> we played some Primadonna on our radio show the other day though
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16:19 < foks> you'll be pleased to hear
16:19 < mareklug> it is ok to like Primadonna, but it would be more fun if you played something off the beaten path unlike the Top40 radio stations, say, "Sinful"
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16:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks latin makes people sound popeish
16:20 < foks> Our station plays a lot of shit
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16:21 < mareklug> here, feast your ears:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31AqeXBvJv8   Marina & the Diamonds - "Sinful"  (an unrealeased old song, when she wasn't Dr. Luked yet)
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16:22 < PinkAmpersand> oh, stop pontificating, ToAruShiroiNeko ;D
16:22 < foks> tbh I mostly just like MatD's single
16:22 < foks> +s
16:22 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko foks  latin is sprinled over everyday Polish, so you grow up with that.  It has nothing to do with trying.
16:23 < foks> you poor thing
16:23 < mareklug> like "status quo ante"
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16:25 < mareklug> if you like her singles, then you should be lovin'  this one:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKNcuTWzTVw  "How to Be a Heartbreaker"
16:25 < mareklug> goodness.  the beats on that are going to annoy the neighors.
16:25 < mareklug> no problemo if you do listen to it only on the iMac/foks' laptop :/
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16:26 < foks> another plus for the laptop speakers there
16:26 < mareklug> yeah, the more emasciated, the tinnier, the lesser frequency response, the more distortion, the better.
16:27 < foks> because clearly you can only listen to music REALLY LOUD all the time.
16:27 < mareklug> emaciated *
16:27 < mareklug> are you nuts?  it is low level.
16:27 < mareklug> but you can hear the bass.
16:27 < foks> Then turn off the bass.
16:27 < foks> :3
16:28 < mareklug> why would I?  it is only 6:27 PM.  on a Sunday.  The neighbors can take some Marina/Dr. Luke beats.
16:28 < foks> good thing I don't live next to you
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16:29 < mareklug> indeed.  would not wanna your wifi interference.
16:29 < foks> or indeed my fist in your speaker.
16:29 < mareklug> we would have to take you to the emergency.  the speaker would win.
16:30 -!- nas is now known as zz_nas
16:30 < mareklug> try not to start punching wars with solid oak.
16:30 < foks> not if they're from 1973
16:30 < foks> probably falling apart
16:31 < mareklug> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/105918205/Synergistics%20S-72A%20brochure.jpg
16:31 < foks> I would imagine that black stuff is not solid oak.
16:31 < mareklug> not only they are not falling apart, they are indefinitely good.  they don't even have foam around the woofers but rubber, unlike the foam rot you may have heard about
16:32 < GabrielF> yay the IRS approved my refund finally!
16:32 < mareklug> the wood around is.  the black stuff is ...
16:32 < foks> still completely unnecessary
16:32  * foks ceases to care
16:32 < mareklug> black-painted dense 1/2 inch particle board
16:34 < mareklug> foks do you use Time Machine?  I think you do, but without a Time Capsule, yes?
16:36 < Cncmaster> Yay! Toolserver is down again!
16:36 < mareklug> legoktm  I converted to being a paying customer:
16:36 < mareklug> Current Version: Textual 3.0.1 (Build #1856)
16:37 < foks> I use time machine yes
16:37 < foks> with a wd 1tb hdd
16:37 < foks> no-frills
16:38 < GabrielF> what's the deal with CSS not loading from tool server recently?
16:39 < mareklug> GabrielF it is hard to load yourself when the toolserver as a machine is hard to reach with 404 erros
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16:39 < mareklug> errors
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16:40 < GabrielF> can we get the foundation to run tool server or something a little less hacky?
16:40 < mareklug> foks anyway, my Time Capsule informed me earlier today that it ran out of space and will start deleting old backups to make room if I don't do something about it.  !TB.
16:40 < GabrielF> AWS
16:40 < GabrielF> ?
16:40 < mareklug> 1TB
16:40 < russavia> "I don’t want to fall into the trap of psycho-analysing Russia from afar, so let me simply say that the Russian state does not like Wikipedia." -- makes me wonder why Kremlin responded to my request for CC licencing, and why premier.gov.ru and government.ru are CC-licenced now too
16:40 < mareklug> GabrielF no.  they spend all their money of funding Wikimania hotel stays and WIkimania air fares.
16:41 < russavia> mareklug -- ^ ^ FU :)
16:41 < russavia> http://simulacrum.cc/2013/05/11/why-wikipedias-millionth-russian-page-is-worth-celebrating/
16:41 < bazinga> mareklug: does myPhone have the facebook chat heads or no?
16:41 < GabrielF> that's better than the commonwealth of massachusetts
16:41 < mareklug> what is myPhone?
16:41 < foks> mareklug, two options then I guess
16:42 < foks> 1. get a new hdd
16:42 < GabrielF> they CC licensed their stuff but they didn't want to remove the NC clause
16:42 < foks> 2. fuck your old backups
16:42 < foks> :P
16:42 < mareklug> GabrielF russavia  Wikimania Foundation can't into reliable geohack service for its mainspace, but it can into expenses.
16:42 < russavia> who you talking about gabriel?
16:42 < GabrielF> Massachusetts governor's office
16:42 < mareklug> foks as I was going to continue, the UPS is calling on my receiving room come tomorrow with a 2TB Time Capsule. :)
16:43 < russavia> ahhh kk
16:43 < GabrielF> surprisingly less progressive than the kremlin
16:43 < russavia> so what you are saying is that massachusetts is less liberal than russian govt?
16:43 < foks> mareklug, okay?
16:43 < russavia> two great minds
16:43 < Krenair> <GabrielF> can we get the foundation to run tool server or something a little less hacky?
16:43 < foks> is this another "I have more money to burn than you hahaha" thing?
16:43 < Krenair> This is basically something that labs is going to be able to do
16:43 < GabrielF> on the very specific issue of releasing their photo stream under the most generous CC license
16:43 < mareklug> foks so just in time.  there is a saying.  a stitch in time saves nine.
16:44 < foks> I see.
16:44 < foks> I deleted my old backups.
16:44 < russavia> gabrielf -- polish MFA is the same -- i only need two photos fromit
16:44 < foks> Because I individually backup the stuff I actually want.
16:44 < russavia> foks you see that video i linked to?
16:44 < foks> Anything older than that I'm probably never going to look at
16:44 < mareklug> foks no….  I just bought it when the trippy thing was offering to wipe out all of my backups and I had a sneaking suspicion it was biting the dust (2008 version, continually on)
16:44 < foks> russavia, I'll be honest, I don't click youtube links in here
16:45 < foks> mareklug, ok
16:45 < foks> my hdd is not continually on because there is no need for it to be
16:45 < russavia> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9BtScBQaI  needed a translation of this
16:45 < foks> i backup once a week
16:45 < foks> russavia, this isn't going to change if you link it twice
16:45 < mareklug> foks the Time Capsule backs up around the clock and is of course the house router
16:45 < mareklug> for Wifi
16:45 < foks> but fine
16:46 < foks> mareklug, not going to lie, i have no idea what a router is
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16:46 < mareklug> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/router
16:46 < mareklug> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Router_(computing)
16:46 < foks> arsed reading
16:46 < foks> russavia, oh okay that
16:46 < foks> that's ace
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16:47 < foks> boy wakes up, finds there's no mince in his house, goes to the store, none there, proceeds to be annoyed at this
16:47 < foks> six in the morning, out my bed, cup of hot coffee, get the paper read, search in the tin for a little jam scone, nothing but crumbs, what the hell's going on?
16:49 < mareklug> foks a router is a thing that lets you have more than one device/computer by giving each an address and routing packets that are to go to the right destination.  it sits between the cable modem/DSL modem/dial-up modem and the rest of your stuff, like your laptop, iPod, iPhone, iMac, Television, printer sometimes, and Voice over IP telephone if you have one.
16:49 < foks> far's ma mince, far's me mince, hid a wee drap wednesday an' ah've hid nane since, plenty tattie, big green laef, dis naebody ken there's nae buggerin' beef
16:50 < foks> mareklug, I call that the modem
16:50 < foks> didn't realise it had a funny name
16:50 < mareklug> no, the modem is a Modulate/Demodulate device.  What you call modem has a modem inside it as well as a router
16:50 < foks> ah well
16:51 < foks> well if we already have a router there's no use having another
16:51 < mareklug> for example, my cable modem does not route, it only makes the incoming coaxial tv cable/internet signal into a digital Ethernet signal that I can feed to my router.  Ad do millions of peope.
16:51 < mareklug> people
16:52 < mareklug> foks, on the contrary, you may well need to have multiple routers in order to cover a large area or divide networks into inaccessible parts.
16:52 < foks> seems daft to me
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16:52 < mareklug> you can put a router in a so-called bridged mode, and then it will just repeat the other router's signal like another amplifier/access point, only closer to ya.
16:53 < mareklug> which is what my Time Capsule will become, once I make the new one the main one.
16:53 < russavia> mareklug -- HK show you this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnDOLkSyCgY
16:54 < Jasper_Deng> most routers and modems are also NAT devices
16:54 < foks> unfortunately I am not completely loaded and therefore cannot purchase a time capsule
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16:54 < foks> £250?
16:54 < mareklug> Jasper_Deng of course, but that is too much information for foks, if he did not know what a router was
16:54 < foks> ooouch
16:54  * Jasper_Deng doesn't think Apple's networking products are any good for their price
16:55 < mareklug> I got mine refurbished from Apple, so A) it is as good as new, b) it comes with 2 years of protection as I bought it on a credit card that doubles the mfg warranty.
16:55 < GabrielF> so this is off-topic, but I'm a little bothered by my school newspaper publishing an article about a student's sudden death and not stating the cause of death
16:55 < mareklug> Jasper_Deng you of course don't really know, as you have never used any.
16:55 < foks> I would never get anything delivered from Apple
16:55  * Jasper_Deng has
16:55 < mareklug> foks why?
16:55 < GabrielF> I mean we can all read between the lines
16:55 < foks> Mainly because there's an Apple Store literally five minutes from my house
16:55 < foks> but also for a more pertinent reason
16:56 < foks> Yodel
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16:56 < foks> Delivery is so hit-and-miss in this city it's unreal
16:56 < mareklug> foks the Apple Store (which is not 5 minutes from my house) does not carry refurbs.
16:56 < foks> neither does this one
16:56 < mareklug> I got a refurb for two reasons:  a) less expensive, b) since it was refurbed by Apple, it is guaranteed to be working. :)
16:56 < bazinga> guaranfuckingteed!
16:56 < foks> but I'd rather pay a bit more and get something new than pay a bit less and maybe have to wrangle with Yodel for two months to get it
16:57 < mareklug> foks maybe if you live in the West Buttfuck we call commonly Scotland.  But here ground shipped stuff from Yodel as you call it comes to Chicago in 3 days.
16:57 < foks> Last time I bought something from Apple (my iPad mini) I bought it in-person because I got frustrated waiting for it.
16:58 < mareklug> too bad there was a weekend in the einterim.
16:58 < mareklug> interim
16:58 < GabrielF> russavia:
16:58 < foks> Yodel is the name of the company, oddly enough.
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16:58 < mareklug> which?
16:58 < foks> But thanks for dragging this discussion to base level and insult my nationality
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16:59 < mareklug> which Yodel is this?  Do they really ship Apple Store stuff on behalf of Apple to you poor Aberdeen folks?  I mean, I get mine from West Sacramento.
16:59 < mareklug> wehn it comes to major pieces of Apple.  other stuff might come from even closer.
17:00 < foks> Pretty sure they were away to ship the iPad from the US
17:00 < foks> because there is no other reason for it to take so fucking long
17:00 < eeekster> Apple store: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkdXJroQFms
17:01 < mareklug> foks stuff from UK/USA comes these days by plane.  It is usually as fast as any other air delivery anywhere.  it's hours.
17:01 < foks> yes, hours
17:01 < foks> because they instantly ship it as soon as you order it
17:01 < mareklug> I mean, you can pay to have stuff next day or in major cities the same day, but that is waste of money when ground shipping is free.
17:01 < foks> and of course they fly it direct to your house
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17:01 < mareklug> foks Apple ships within couple hours.  they do for me.
17:02 < foks> Oddly enough Apple doesn't treat the UK in the same way
17:02 < mareklug> well, the iMac had to be configured, so that took 2 days.
17:02 < foks> My iPad took well over two weeks to ship
17:02 < mareklug> as a build to order
17:02 < foks> by then I had to cancel it because I had already bought one
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17:03 < mareklug> the refurbished time Capsule was ordered at 5 pm and at 7pm I had an email that it was shipped
17:03 < mareklug> UPS tracking site picked it up an hour and a half later as already in Pablo City (metro Oakland)
17:03 < foks> oh, let's see what refurb apple accessories they have in the UK
17:03 < foks> oh, look at that
17:03 < foks> two items
17:04 < foks> TWO.
17:04 < mareklug> go to the Apple Store main page, all the way down on the right margin
17:04 < foks> christ, apple, you're so generous
17:04 < mareklug> left
17:04 < foks> http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/mac_accessories
17:04 < foks> save £10
17:04 < foks> oh jesus I'm quaking in my jimmies
17:05 < mareklug> http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/imac/27
17:05 < mareklug> but you are right, no time Capsules
17:05 < foks> those are not accessories, anyway
17:05 < mareklug> the bottom iMac at 2k pounds looks good
17:06 < foks> 2k pounds is $lots
17:06 < mareklug> I agree but do price that config new, and tell me it is not 400 pounds less.
17:06 < Swob> $lot machines
17:06 < foks> $3080 to be precise
17:07 < Swob> really?
17:07 < mareklug> it is the fastest, biggest iMac, and only the video card is not the bestest possible
17:07 < Swob> the pound must be slipping
17:07 < foks> Swob, taaaaaaaaaax
17:07 -!- sdamashek|away is now known as sdamashek
17:07 < Swob> I remember when £1 was almost $2 not long ago
17:07 < foks> taaaaaaaaaaaax
17:07 < mareklug> and how much is 1,999 pounds?
17:07 < foks> i just said
17:07 < mareklug> oh, i thought you priced the new one
17:07 < Swob> time for England to switch to the euro
17:08 < foks> thankfully I'm not in england
17:08 < mareklug> Order Total	$2,516.00
17:08 < Swob> and Scotland
17:08 < foks> although stuff would probably ship fucking quicker if I was
17:08 < mareklug> the same machine in the US, but with 1TB fusion as opposed to 3TB and with the better video card with 2GB video ram
17:08 < Swob> Sctoalnd should just join the USA actually
17:08 < mareklug> and that is with illinois tax
17:08 < foks> illinois tax is still not UK tax
17:08 < mareklug> and iwth apple care !
17:08 < foks> taxed oot the airse
17:09 < mareklug> that is actually a sweet deal.
17:09 < foks> unfortunately £2000 is about six months wages
17:09  * foks pür
17:10 < harej> π
17:10 < harej> och, scotland will not became a part of the usa, ken
17:10 < foks> och naw
17:10 < harej> they have enough trouble being a part of their current union
17:10 < foks> nova scotia has mair chance ken
17:10 < Swob> yeah I guess
17:10 < mareklug> I would love Nova Scotia int he union
17:10 < Swob> after all it's where America got started
17:11 < Swob> John Cabot in the 1400s discovered Nova Scotia
17:11 < foks> anyway i am off to bed because i've had a shit day
17:11 < foks> night
17:11 < Swob> or was it Newfoundland?
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17:11 < mareklug> America got started in Newfoundland.  The Vikings landed and lived at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27anse%20aux%20Meadows
17:11 < Swob> too bad the Vikings didnt stay there
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17:11 < Swob> it'd rock to have like another Scandinavian nation right off shore
17:11 < mareklug> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Anse_aux_Meadows
17:11 < harej> theo
17:12 < koishi> wow, this guy is seriously threatening to block me because of a quote
17:12 < koishi> A QUOTE
17:12 < nonsenseferret> there weren't any people in the americas before the vikings?
17:12 < koishi> HE KNOWS IT'S A FUCKING QUOTE.
17:12 < koishi> fuck him
17:12 < koishi> he's dead
17:12 < koishi> DEAD
17:13 < mareklug> Swob the Vikings did not stay there cuz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skræling were too nasty to them.
17:13 < Swob> true
17:13 < mareklug> koishi which guy?
17:13 < Swob> those nasty Indians
17:13 < koishi> tbhotch
17:13 < mareklug> protecting their vinyards
17:13 < koishi> he is the biggest jerk ever
17:13 < Swob> too bad the Vikings scared them by wearing pointy helmets
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17:15 < mareklug> bazinga foks and I get along (we are last.fm brotha) but he was in a pissy mood today so it colored (coloured) the conv.
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17:21 < koishi> probably going to get blocked from this, but i'm tired of this kid
17:21 < koishi> i'm tired of trying to explain anything to him
17:21 < koishi> he just won't read it
17:21 < koishi> at all
17:22 < Swob> ok
17:22 < Swob> user:Despatche is you ?
17:22 < koishi> yes
17:23 < koishi> come at me, i can take it
17:23 < koishi> i know what's coming
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17:23 < Swob> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Despatche&diff=prev&oldid=554805123 <--- just saying, this is probably not the best way to respond to a block warning
17:24 < koishi> it's not a block warning, it's a useless threat
17:24 < koishi> he's trying to blame me for things he's doing
17:24 < Swob> I'll admit I really hate templates
17:24 < koishi> appropriately, i put it on his talk page instead... he reverted it back to mine
17:24 < Swob> I try to avoid communicating via template whenever possible
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17:25 < koishi> if he would just actually answer my questions and try to make some sense of what he's saying, this would not be an issue
17:25 < koishi> but he's not one of those types
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17:27 < koishi> ok fine here's a uh "compromise"
17:27 < koishi> i.e. the thing i wanted this whole time
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17:27 < koishi> and he's going to revert it for some mysterious reason
17:27 < koishi> and try to get me blocked anyway
17:27 < Swob> i'll unblock if he blocks you for something I dont feel deserves a block
17:28 < koishi> no, i can't do it, it just doesn't work lol
17:28 < koishi> long story short this guy wants us to recognize every single all caps trademark ever
17:29 < koishi> "Columbia Pictures, also known as COLUMBIA"... does that look right to you? at all?
17:29 < koishi> i can understand stylizations but this is going way too far
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17:30 < Swob> is he actually signing as "Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. " everywhere?
17:30 < koishi> yes
17:30 < koishi> also his page is annoying
17:30 < koishi> i use 1024 so i can't hit any of the top buttons :(
17:30 < koishi> how did he even get that giant graphic in there
17:31 < Swob> I dont know what 1024 is
17:31 < Bradford> :/
17:31 < koishi> oh sorry
17:31 < koishi> 1024x768
17:31 < Swob> hmm
17:31 < koishi> the old standard.
17:31 < Swob> his sig is 1 letter under the limit
17:31 < Swob> He probabky counted it
17:31 < Swob> i thought for sure it would be over
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17:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> obama to take away our trash
17:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> fox news to revolt :p
17:42 < IDoH> LO<
17:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Obama is a super villan collector right
17:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> he collects guns, taxes, and even sins?
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17:45 < nas> hmmm.
17:46 < koishi> oh no, is he lex luthor in disguise?
17:46 < koishi> err
17:46 < koishi> real life lex luthor
17:46 < nas> Hi. Anyone have any ideas on how we/I can improve the infobox format (team in parenthesis) on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Bojangles%27_Southern_500
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17:49 < SigmaWP> mareklug: Here?
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17:51 < mareklug> yes
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17:51 < SigmaWP> You know that thing in Poland where you needed a unanimous vote to do anything?
17:51 < mareklug> David_Stevenson  so you are Moe_Epsilon
17:51 < SigmaWP> That contributed to the partitions?
17:51 < David_Stevenson> yes
17:51 < mareklug> SigmaWP yeah it was called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/liberum%20veto or free veto power
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17:51 < SigmaWP> thanks
17:52 < David_Stevenson> I'm a slightly intoxicated Moe_Epsilon
17:52 < mareklug> but Stevenson is your last name
17:52 < David_Stevenson> yes it is
17:52 < mareklug> does the chiquita know that?
17:53 < David_Stevenson> no it doesn't
17:53 < David_Stevenson> :<
17:53 < mareklug> you better rename yourself then, while it's safe
17:54 < David_Stevenson> why would I do that
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17:58 < David_Stevenson> wait what chiquita
17:58 < David_Stevenson> now I'm confused
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18:03 < bazinga> !admin need someone experienced in images, urgently.
18:03 < duh> hi
18:03 < duh> i'm here.
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18:03 < bazinga> duh: not you
18:03 < duh> oh
18:03 < bazinga> sry
18:03 < duh> but i have experience :/
18:03 < bazinga> well you can if you want.
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18:12 < Cncmaster> Well I finally achieved AWB access
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18:13 < duh> achieved?
18:14 < Cncmaster> I had to go through a lot of crap.
18:14 < Cncmaster> To make a long story short.
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18:15 < duh> lolwut
18:15 < duh> > Before getting AWB I would like to see 200 more of those gnoming improvements, rather than tagging and reverting. [username]
18:16 < Cncmaster> exactly
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18:21 < legoktm> RIP
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18:23 < Cncmaster> legotkm: hmmm?
18:23 < legoktm> duh died.
18:24 < BlastHardcheese> no duh?
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18:25 < bazinga> no duh.
18:25 < mareklug> no, legoktm, or no duh.
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18:33 < {soap|bed}> hi Julian
18:33 < juliancolton> hey!
18:33 < Fleet|mobile> Night {soap|bed}
18:33 < juliancolton> (and g'night, apparently)
18:34 < mareklug> juliancolton nah.  Soap just likes to be greated in bed
18:34 < Fleet|mobile> Heh
18:34 < {soap|bed}> yeah Im not usually ib bed this early but Im tired
18:34 < {soap|bed}> i might be back soon
18:34 < Fleet|mobile> Hi mareklug
18:34 < mareklug> reminds me of the silly parlor game where you add to the end of anything …in bed.
18:34 < mareklug> hi Fleet|mobile
18:34 < {soap|bed}> fortune cookies too
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18:36 < {soap|bed}> http://www.channelate.com/2010/05/03/fortune-cookie/
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18:37 < {soap|bed}> "your resolve to try something new each day attracts people to you ... in bed" is mine
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18:37 < bazinga> http://www.channelate.com/comics/2012-08-07-porta-potty.png
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19:33 < koishi_> damn it, he took me there first
19:33 < koishi_> should have bothered after all
19:33 < mareklug> Thehelpfulone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Constantly_being_reverted_by_article_owner   blocked indefinitely as a sock of some oldtime miscreant
19:33 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko ^
19:35 < koishi_> wow, now he's got people bullying on me
19:35 < IDoH> Who does, koishi_?
19:35 < koishi_> well, i don't think he's hired them exactly, but it's a bit odd
19:35 < koishi_> idoh: tbhotch
19:35 < koishi_> some random named evilgenius suddenly decided to get involved with this
19:36 < koishi_> *epic
19:36 < koishi_> sorry
19:36 < koishi_> *epicgenius
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19:45 < {soap|bed}> koishi i thuink you might be a bit too paranoid
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19:49 < koishi_> idk man, who is this random guy who thought it'd be funny to try reverting stuff in the middle of a supposed edit war with no explanation?
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19:49 < koishi_> i understand paranoid; this is definitely suspicious
19:50 < Guest64363> :|
19:50 < Dcoetzee> I just saw Iron Man 3 finally
19:50 < Dcoetzee> Pretty good
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19:51 < koishi_> oh man, here's another guy; once again, no explanation
19:52 < koishi_> looks like another random but not as much
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19:52 < koishi_> i really don't understand why this guy is fighting so hard over something this small
19:53 < koishi_> because it's pretty clear he doesn't understand the implications
19:53 < {soap|bed}> Koishi seriously 3 guys are not just ganging up on you for no reason
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19:54 < koishi_> don't worry so much about that
19:54 < koishi_> i'm not
19:54 < koishi_> i'm worried more about them reverting with 0 explanation right now
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19:54 < koishi_> i'd really like to know how these guys are finding this article
19:54 < koishi_> i seriously doubt they're vandal cops
19:54 < koishi_> vandals don't leave edit summaries!
19:55 < koishi_> vandal cops would also have something better than undo
19:55 < koishi_> *+but i'd really like
19:55 < koishi_> fucking really
19:55 < koishi_> i got blocked anyway
19:55 < koishi_> oh wait let me guess no explanation
19:56 < Jasper_Deng> koishi_: idk about what your issue really is, two things: 1 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith and 2 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTTHEM
19:56 < koishi_> what are you talking about?! good faith is out the window
19:56 < koishi_> it's pretty clear this guy doesn't want to get anything done
19:56 < Jasper_Deng> no it isn't
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19:57 < Jasper_Deng> good faith is never out the window except for blatantly obvious vandals, which I don't think the case is here
19:57 < koishi_> i don't see how he's anything but a vandal in disguise
19:57 < koishi_> he refuses to actually discuss anything
19:57 < koishi_> i've asked him to a bazillion times
19:57 < koishi_> completely ignored, straight to threats
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19:58 < Jasper_Deng> so what's your on-wiki username?
19:59 < koishi_> despatche
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19:59 < bazinga> http://theinkblot.com/
19:59 < koishi_> look, i understand that it's perfectly valid to block me for 3rr, but /the discussion is still ongoing/
19:59 < koishi_> he is /never/ going to finish it
19:59 < koishi_> he completely refuses
19:59 < koishi_> that is the only reason i 3rr'd at all
19:59 < Jasper_Deng> are you talking about Tbhotch?
19:59 < koishi_> and i think that's completely fair
19:59 < koishi_> yes
19:59 < Jasper_Deng> two wrongs != a right
19:59 < koishi_> that's not the point
20:00 < koishi_> the point is that he's trying to get rid of the discussion and have things his way
20:00 < Jasper_Deng> a common way people get blocked for edit warring is because they think they must revert the other side because they're not discussing
20:00 < Jasper_Deng> this is definitely the case here
20:01 < koishi_> what else am i supposed to do? he actively refuses to say anything
20:01 < koishi_> therefore, the discussion never moves onward
20:01 < koishi_> and any attempt to edit the article is met with a revert
20:02 < Jasper_Deng> it takes two to edit war
20:02 < koishi_> yes, and?
20:02 < koishi_> there's obviously an edit war going on
20:02 < koishi_> no one is disputing that
20:02 < koishi_> i actually did say "supposed" and that is completely wrong
20:02 < Jasper_Deng> right, you just took it one step too far
20:02 < koishi_> SO BE IT
20:03 < koishi_> THE POINT IS THE ACTUAL PROBLEM BEHIND IT
20:03 < koishi_> this is really getting out of hand
20:03  * Jasper_Deng thinks you're making too big of a deal about this
20:03 < Jasper_Deng> read the second link above carefully
20:03 < Jasper_Deng> you will not be unblocked unless you address your /own/ problems
20:04 < koishi_> I ALREADY DID
20:04 < Guest64363> O.o
20:04 < koishi_> THEY OVERRODE IT AND SAID NOTHING
20:04  * Jasper_Deng hopes to not have to call the channel operators
20:04 < Guest64363> OK BUT DONT SCREAM,THANK YOU
20:04 < koishi_> really? I'M the one disrupting here? REALLY?
20:05 < koishi_> guest: all caps is not screaming anymore than all lowercase
20:05 < Jasper_Deng> if /you/ were the one blocked, then that should send a message
20:05 < koishi_> the only reason i'm using them is in the hope that what i'm saying is more clear
20:05 < Jasper_Deng> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:SHOUT
20:05 < koishi_> it sends the message that tbhotch is better at bureaucracy than i am
20:06 < koishi_> well, i can't exactly help that, can i?
20:06 < Jasper_Deng> you had /two/ other editors reverting you besides Tbhotch; that you were reverting /everyone/ was disruptive
20:07 < Jasper_Deng> just because your reverters don't discuss doesn't mean you should be edit warring
20:07 < koishi_> how is that disruptive? they refused to provide explanations, and they didn't come in until after the report went through
20:07 < koishi_> yes, it should! you generally revert edits made with no explanation. that's the whole point of the edit summary!
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20:08 < Jasper_Deng> you were warring against all three of them
20:08 < koishi_> and of course now that i'm blocked i can't participate in this discussion anymore, even though someone brought up a point (through an edit summary, of course)
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20:08 < Jasper_Deng> koishi_: to which I say, *wrong*!
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20:08 < Jasper_Deng> no explanation is /not/ a license to edit war
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20:09 < koishi_> the edit war is irrelevant! why are you worried so much about the block? i don't care about the block. i care about the part /behind the block/.
20:09 < Jasper_Deng> why are you bashing those editors?
20:09 < Jasper_Deng> wouldn't this get resolved more quickly if you focused on your own unblock request instead?
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20:10 < Jasper_Deng> to quote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BRD
20:10  * Guest64363 faints
20:10 < Jasper_Deng> (which doesn't define edit warring but is why they did what they did)
20:10 < koishi_> why are you so worried about the block?!
20:10 < Jasper_Deng> you asked for help
20:11 < koishi_> and i appreciate the sentiment, but i never asked for help
20:11  * Jasper_Deng won't listen to any more rants against the other editors in the content dispute
20:11 < koishi_> i'm just angry that this guy is trying to ruleshark his way out of a discussion
20:11 < koishi_> surely you can see the anger?
20:11 < koishi_> i'm mad because this discussion is never going to get solved
20:12 < Jasper_Deng> well, part of editing Wikipedia is containing your anger
20:12 < koishi_> tomorrow, here's what's going to happen:
20:12 < koishi_> i attempt to restart discussion
20:12 < Jasper_Deng> solving the discussion /will/ involve contesting your block
20:12 < Jasper_Deng> taking out your anger on IRC won't, on the other hand.
20:12 < koishi_> he spouts the same nonsense again, and i put out the same counter-points again
20:12 < koishi_> the discussion goes absolutely nowhere
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20:12 < koishi_> (because he bails)
20:12 < koishi_> what am i supposed to do?
20:12 < koishi_> now i'm asking for help
20:12 < Jasper_Deng> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard
20:12 < Jasper_Deng> is a possible venue
20:13 < koishi_> brd was what i was trying to do, but this guy made me mad
20:13 < koishi_> my fault, etc etc
20:13 < koishi_> i get that. i've already said that a thousand times
20:14 < koishi_> i just wish you weren't so wrapped up in the rules
20:14 < Jasper_Deng> I sometimes have gotten angry. But I don't let it spill out on-wiki.
20:14 < Jasper_Deng> better yet, I just quit the wiki for that evening and calm myself down.
20:14 < koishi_> sigh
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20:18 < koishi_> seems i couldn't discuss the block even if i wanted to
20:18 < koishi_> figures
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20:34 < russavia> ragesoss about?
20:35 < ChrisGualtieri> Why is it that the uninformed try desperately to make new rules and policies for Wikipedia? >.>
20:36 < ChrisGualtieri> Beeblebrox may not give a damn about the telling of time, but yet again another RFC which will screw over Wikipedia is floating about
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20:48 < mareklug> ChrisGualtieri  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Constantly_being_reverted_by_article_owner   <-- first thing up top
20:49 < mareklug> Dcoetzee I just booted my 1998 Powerbook and it is updating itself within Debian 6.0.6 :)
20:50 < ChrisGualtieri> mareklug who?
20:50 < mareklug> xfce 4.10 really is zippy on a ppc 750 CPU 300 Mhz with 512 meg of RAM and a very old ATI video
20:51 < mareklug> ChrisGualtieri the Resolved box with a green checkmark
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20:51 < ChrisGualtieri> Where is the SPI? I don't see it?
20:52 < mareklug> what SPI?  I don't know how Kww did it.  He just mentioned it on Selena Gomez' talk page in the picture thread, that is how I found out.
20:53 < ChrisGualtieri> I guess the checkuser confirmed it... but I don't see one ever being opened. Oh well...
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20:59 < legoktm> heh
20:59 < legoktm> I saw Selena Gomez and was afraid it would be SGF
21:01 < SigmaWP> https://developer.gnome.org/gio/unstable/GFile.html
21:01 < SigmaWP> where the hell
21:02 < SigmaWP> is the open_dir() function
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21:12 < a930913> Why is Huon not an admin?
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21:29 < legoktm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzVhPCMAxWQ :D
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21:38 < mareklug> legoktm http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/10/big-changes-coming-to-applecare-this-fall-warranty-subscriptions-in-store-ios-device-repairs-more
21:39 < legoktm> o.O
21:39 < legoktm> interesting
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21:40 < mareklug> it all seems to be changes for the better
21:40 < mareklug> I don't know how they plan on saving 1 bln dollars though
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22:02 < Cncmaster> Damn AIV bots are down again.
22:04 < legoktm> blame Yetanotherx|afk
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22:32 < a930913> "no flags allowed here by wiki policy" Eh? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=554834632&oldid=553035370
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22:32 < closedmouth> [[WP:FLAGCRUFT]]
22:37 < Matthew_> OK, y'all, anyone revert any vandalism on a dr. who related template this evening?
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22:37 < a930913> closedmouth: Where does that prohibit Asian flags?
22:38 < closedmouth> asian?
22:38 < a930913> Matthew_: Possibly, though I don't usually look at template vandalism.
22:39 < a930913> closedmouth: The removal of the flags only took place in the Asian section.
22:39 < Matthew_> a930913: OK.  We only got 5 complains about 3 Dr. Who articles via OTRS, so I'm assuming templates.  But [[Dr. Who]] has 80 templates trancluded...
22:39 < closedmouth> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?namespace=10&target=Doctor+Who&tagfilter=&title=Special%3ARecentChangesLinked
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22:40 < a930913> Matthew_: Spoilers?
22:40 < Matthew_> closedmouth: OK, that's seriously cool!  And I found the culprate.
22:40 < Matthew_> (sp?)
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22:40 < closedmouth> culprit
22:41 < Matthew_> a930913: Yep, the kind that cover the screen and make navigation impossible.
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22:41 < Matthew_> closedmouth: Thanks :blushes:
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22:42 < a930913> Matthew_: :D
22:42 < Matthew_> :P Now, I have to go answer another 5 emails
22:44 < legoktm> Matthew_: yes
22:44 < legoktm> it was fixed
22:44 < legoktm> GNAA
22:44 < Matthew_> :rolls eyes: of course.  Thanks
22:45 < legoktm> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Doctor_Who&action=history
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22:54 < closedmouth> who's river?
22:54 < a930913> Anybody else think that there should be some way to tag an edit as suspicious, to get second opinions on whether an edit is vandalism?
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22:55 < a930913> closedmouth: [[River Song (Doctor Who)]]
22:55 < closedmouth> mmhm
22:56 < russavia> any admin around want to block eric barbour? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.126.142.59
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22:56 < russavia> or is he allowed to run rough trod over this project?
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22:59 < Matthew_> legoktm: Thanks.  I'm in the process of responding to the emails now.
23:00 < Matthew_> (process being a loose term, Firefox is being grouchy)
23:00 < legoktm> :/
23:01 < Matthew_> :/
23:02 < SigmaWP> Next time wctaiwan comes here, poke him for me
23:04 < Matthew_> I think you just did...
23:04 < SigmaWP> oh...
23:04 < SigmaWP> Tell him to get the fuck here!
23:04  * Matthew_ shrugs.
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23:11 < Matthew_> legoktm: OK, all OTRS email sent.  Now to answer the ANI messages.
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23:11 < legoktm> great :)
23:12 < Matthew_> :)
23:14 < Matthew_> {{done}}
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23:18 < legoktm> you are awesome
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23:19 < Matthew_> Thanks :) (IDK how to respond to that :P )
23:21 < a930913> legoktm: Give them an edit notice telling them exactly what to fix? :D https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:BracketBot/inform&diff=next&oldid=554413032
23:21 < legoktm> heh
23:22 < a930913> legoktm: Could I do that without spamming a new page for every note?
23:22 < legoktm> dont think so
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23:23 < russavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:76.126.142.59 -- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A76.126.142.59 -- eric barbour sock hello -- any admins around?
23:23 < closedmouth> meh
23:24 < closedmouth> is he even banned?
23:24 < a930913> russavia: legoktm is an admin now :p legoktm, have you blocked anybody yet? :p
23:24 < russavia> eric barbour?
23:24 < russavia> indef arbcom banned
23:25 < russavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/EricBarbour
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23:43 < a930913> Is the unresolved "{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}" a feature or a bug? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A930913&action=history
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23:51 < a930913> legoktm: Thinking about it, if I had a #switch on their username in the editnotice...
23:56 < PinkAmpersand> a930913: it is and it isn't, I think. Like how if you use a pipe trick in a section header, it doesn't get parsed in the edit summary
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