User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2013-05-03
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Jump to navigationJump to search--- Log opened Fri May 03 00:00:05 2013 --- Day changed Fri May 03 2013 00:00 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Quit: Adiós chongos, no me extrañen :D] 00:00 < SuicidalZerg> Because I don't have anything better, lol 00:00 < SuicidalZerg> In fact the S-video signal itself is being converted into a Coax signal :D 00:00 < Shirik> ... 00:01 < SuicidalZerg> Because I have the cheapest TV in the world, with only a single coax input, lol 00:01 -!- incantZIV [~occultCLW@c-174-49-13-70.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:02 < IShadowed> wtf SuicidalZerg 00:03 -!- incantZIV [~occultCLW@c-174-49-13-70.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:03 < SuicidalZerg> One has to make do with what they have :( 00:04 < Shirik> just throwing this out there 00:04 < Shirik> while you're crying about your crappy TV 00:04 < Shirik> I'm running around with two iphones 00:04 < Shirik> dododo 00:04 < SuicidalZerg> :( 00:04 < IShadowed> and one doesn't work well :P 00:04 < SuicidalZerg> You rich people 00:04 < Shirik> IT WORKS NOW 00:04 < Shirik> they finally fixed it today 00:04 < IShadowed> sure 00:04 < Shirik> after TWO WEEKS 00:05 < IShadowed> :P 00:05 -!- MuZemike [~MuZemike@wikimedia/MuZemike] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:06 -!- Hahc21 [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:09 < mareklug> Shirik I like smug assholes such as you. 00:09 < Shirik> thanks! 00:09 < Shirik> I like me too 00:09 < mareklug> SuicidalZerg it could be too much amplification 00:09 -!- Titoxd_ [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:09 < mareklug> "You may try to attenuate your signal. You can get 3db, 6db and 10 db attenuators at Radio Shack for almost nothing. Often times ghosting is caused by having too much amplification." 00:10 < SuicidalZerg> There are S-video attenuators? O_o 00:10 < SuicidalZerg> I have a couple of RCA attenuators lying around, lol 00:10 < IShadowed> <mareklug> Shirik I like smug assholes such as you. 00:10 < IShadowed> <Shirik> thanks! 00:10 < IShadowed> <Shirik> I like me too 00:10 * IShadowed facepalms 00:11 < mareklug> SuicidalZerg it does not matter how you use the attentuator, the idea is to decrease the power. You can put it inline in a coax or in RCA cabling. 00:12 < mareklug> Shirik if somone has vintage equipment, that does not make them an idiot or an asshole 00:12 < Shirik> I think the part you are missing is that I actually know who SuicidalZerg is 00:13 < mareklug> i know that, I was taking up defense of the S-video rather. 00:13 < IShadowed> yeah, fuck SuicidalZerg 00:13 < IShadowed> only concerned with poor S-video 00:13 < mareklug> indeed, fuck him and the whole state of Utah 00:13 < IShadowed> pretty much 00:13 < mareklug> right on, sister 00:14 < Shirik> ok well I'm going to go to sleep while you figure out where I said that users of s-video are idiots or assholes 00:14 < IShadowed> "TIL that during a dissection of a mother tiger shark, a scientist was reaching into the birth canal and was bitten by a tiger shark embryo, which are notoriously cannibalistic. This is the only recorded instance where someone was bitten by an unborn animal." 00:14 < Shirik> then you let me know tomorrow morning 00:14 * IShadowed snuggles Shirik goodnight 00:14 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@wikipedia/mkdw] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:15 < mareklug> IShadowed let me get that straight: the tiger shark embroys nom on one another? 00:15 < IShadowed> l2read 00:21 < Jeske_Couriano> Guys, can we get eyes on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anwar_is_the_next_pm ? 00:24 < russavia> jeske_couriano -- both statements are wrong 00:24 < russavia> Anwar did not say that approves or disapproves of gay marriage 00:24 < Jeske_Couriano> I can't verify either way because the source is paywalled. 00:24 < russavia> "In response to recent local reports that he supported gay marriage, Mr. Anwar said they were wrong and that he "believes in and supports the sanctity of marriage between men and women."" 00:24 -!- MasterofPuppets [~Master@Wikipedia/Master-of-Puppets] has quit [] 00:25 < Jeske_Couriano> And the article seems to be the target of POV-pushers 00:25 < russavia> "Still, Mr. Anwar said that Malaysia's sodomy laws are "archaic" and could be amended. "It is not my business to attack people or arrest people based on their sexual orientation," he said." 00:25 < russavia> http://mybaru1.blogspot.com.au/2012/01/malaysias-anwar-presses-on-despite.html 00:26 < mareklug> Jeske_Couriano while u are editing there, please fix this so it reads in English, for fuck's sake: Clarifying his comments to the Wall Street Journal, Anwar maintained to legalize homosexuality and make gay marriage permissible — laws should be amended to ensure private affairs are not penalized. “It is not my business to attack people or arrest people based on their sexual orientation,” he said. 00:26 < Jeske_Couriano> mareklug) I only edited there because it tripped a bot on another channel. I do not edit politics articles otherwise. 00:27 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27 < SuicidalZerg> o_o 00:27 < mareklug> "Anwar maintained to legalize homosexuality and make gay marriage permissible" lol 00:27 < SuicidalZerg> I TOUCH MYSELF LATE AT NIGHT! 00:27 -!- SuicidalZerg [~nnscript@wikipedia/The-Thing-That-Should-Not-Be] has left #wikipedia-en [] 00:28 < mareklug> but you you maintain to anything? 00:28 -!- kondi [~konarak@wikimedia/kondicherry] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:28 < russavia> and i'll take care of the photo copyright violations on commons 00:28 -!- AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH [~nnscript@wikipedia/The-Thing-That-Should-Not-Be] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:32 -!- bjelleklang [~chris@wikipedia/Bjelleklang] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:32 < mareklug> Jeske_Couriano done 00:34 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> LOL 00:34 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> My RF modulator doesn't even detect the signal with the RCA attenuator in place 00:35 < mareklug> then you're fucked. the ghosting is not too much power, it is inferior cabling. 00:35 < mareklug> or the attenuator is too kick ass 00:35 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> Sure it's not inferior modulator? Tried different cables over the years, 'tis done nothing to change it, lol 00:36 < mareklug> which tv set is it? 00:36 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> ? 00:36 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> It's a CRT tv 00:37 < mareklug> i know. make model 00:37 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> um... 00:37 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> lol, something by Zenith 00:37 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> I know that this is the only thing that ghosts, my satellite doesn't ghost, nor does my VCR 00:37 < mareklug> is it older than 1990? 00:37 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> Um, I think it's between '90 and '00 00:38 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> In fact I'm sure of it 00:38 -!- FastLizard4|away is now known as FastLizard4 00:38 < mareklug> hold on. the satellite when viewed on that Zenith and the VCR do no ghost? 00:39 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> right 00:39 < mareklug> and exactly waht does? 00:39 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> My computer connected to the RF modulator via an S-video cable 00:39 < mareklug> the RF modulator inside the Zenith? 00:40 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> no, external 00:40 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@134.sub-70-193-64.myvzw.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:40 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@134.sub-70-193-64.myvzw.com] has quit [Changing host] 00:40 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:40 < mareklug> your computer won't make a tv signal without the RF modulator? 00:41 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> All it has for usable outputs is S-video 00:41 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:42 < mareklug> ok, now we are getting somewhere. describe the frigging RF thingee 00:43 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> I can do better than that: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103095&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PPC&utm_term=1502526&utm_content=Exact&utm_campaign=PLA&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CPCyipa4-bYCFcJyMAodnEkAAA&gclsrc=ds 00:44 < mareklug> did you just buy this? 00:44 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> No, have had it for roughly 2 years or so 00:44 < mareklug> and it always ghosted? 00:44 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 00:44 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> yes 00:45 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> Also, apparently my XBMC install doesn't like using an S-video to RCA adapter... the POST screen and boot up screen shows up, but then the modulator doesn't recieve a signal O_o 00:46 < mareklug> why are you adapting anyway? this box has an S-vidoe input. is it to use the attenuator? 00:47 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> That's what I was trying to use, yes 00:47 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> Otherwise, I normally just use an S-video cabler 00:47 < mareklug> but straight s-video in / coaxial out always produced ghosting from that PC to that Zenith? 00:48 < mareklug> using that RFer? 00:48 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> yes 00:48 < mareklug> you have another computer to test this on? 00:48 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> Not one with a working S-video port 00:48 < russavia> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Anwar_Ibrahim anwar articles will soon find themselves quite bare 00:48 < mareklug> do you have a computer with a working toslink? 00:48 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> My main one has a dead S-video port (apparently a common thing with 8600 GT cards) 00:49 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> Um, since I have no idea what that is, no 00:49 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/toslink 00:49 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> My main computer has one, but I don't have anything to recieve it with 00:50 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> Nor do I have a cable 00:50 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> Also, isn't that for audio? 00:51 < mareklug> unfortunately 00:52 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> My PS2 of course has TOSlink, too :p 00:53 < mareklug> not that this is any advice for tonight, but do you have a Radio Shack nearby? 00:53 < AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH> yes 00:53 -!- AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH is now known as SuicidalZerg 00:53 < mareklug> you may wish to take your little ex-29 dollar box there and test it in store, if it ghosts for them. 00:54 < mareklug> with your cables 00:54 < SuicidalZerg> Also, my setup is complicated as ass 00:55 < mareklug> just the s-video, the radio shack rf thinee, and the coax cable to the tv 00:55 < mareklug> thingee 00:56 < SuicidalZerg> I have a Dish Network DVR and a game console connected to my VCR, which is connected to a coax-splitter, which is connected to my main computer's video capture card (I stream console games) and to the RF modulator which also has my media center connected to it, finally going to the TV 00:56 < SuicidalZerg> lol. 00:57 < mareklug> and you want to send your computer stuff to Zenith because? 00:58 < SuicidalZerg> Netflix, and the like 00:58 < SuicidalZerg> Among certain other things 01:00 < mareklug> so the rf modulator never goes directly to the Zenith, if I read the above right -- it goes by coax into the VCR and then the VCR goes by coax to the Zenith? 01:00 < SuicidalZerg> No, it goes directly into the Zenith 01:00 < mareklug> you said: VCR, which is connected to a coax-splitter, which is connected to my main computer's video capture card (I stream console games) and to the RF modulator 01:01 < mareklug> that implies VCR - splitter - RF modulator AND video capture card 01:01 < SuicidalZerg> Dish DVR/Consoles->VCR->Via Splitter, vidoe capture card & RF-Modulator ->TV 01:02 < SuicidalZerg> Yes, it's going from the VCR to the capture card and the RF modulator 01:02 < SuicidalZerg> which then goes to the TV 01:02 < mareklug> tried temporarily disconnecting all the shit? and going pc s-video out - s-video cable - RF modulator - coax cable - Zenith TV? 01:03 -!- Yetanotherx [~Yetanothe@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:03 < SuicidalZerg> So I can both stream console games and use my TV to play them (can't play watching PC monitor because of the inherent lag) 01:03 < SuicidalZerg> I've tried using just the PC to modulator to TV, does nothing to change the ghosting 01:04 < mareklug> well in that case, my advice to take the trip with those 3 items (cable, rf, cable) is something you should consider. since that alone ghosts. 01:04 -!- Yetanotherx|afk [~Yetanothe@mcbouncer.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:04 -!- Yetanotherx|afk is now known as Yetanotherx 01:04 -!- Yetanotherx [~Yetanothe@mcbouncer.com] has quit [Changing host] 01:04 -!- Yetanotherx [~Yetanothe@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:05 -!- ASchulz|away [~chatzilla@216.38.130.164] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:05 < mareklug> the rf modulator is getting enough power 01:05 < mareklug> ? 01:05 < SuicidalZerg> I would certainly hope so, it does use mains power 01:06 < mareklug> but it has a little power supply that might be acting up 01:06 < SuicidalZerg> possibly 01:07 < SuicidalZerg> I know it can't be my computer hardware, it's done the same thing on 2 entirely different sets of hardware 01:07 < niko> wg &bitlbee 01:08 < SuicidalZerg> wat? 01:10 -!- martijnhh [~MartijnH@wikipedia/Martijn-Hoekstra] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:12 < SuicidalZerg> mareklug: So what if it does ghost? I'm not exactly expecting them to just go ahead and replace it 01:12 < mareklug> you will have the luxury of knowing it is it. and you can splurge on an audiovox or a belkin (the last one I saw on amazon for 14 dollars) 01:15 < mareklug> http://www.amazon.com/Audiovox-Corporation-CRF907R-Compact-Modulator/dp/B0014KKV7W/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1367568785&sr=1-1&keywords=audiovox+rf+modulator 01:15 < SuicidalZerg> I got a Dynex converter once... thing was shit, can't remember what it did but I think it ghosted the video something fierce 01:15 < mareklug> 9 bucks! 01:15 < SuicidalZerg> And before that, I had a GE one... my computer's audio power literally fried it 01:15 < SuicidalZerg> Hence why I have attenuators, lol 01:16 < mareklug> 14 1 star revies; 4 2 star ones; 5 three star ones; 15 four star ones and a whopping 83 five star ones. 01:16 < SuicidalZerg> Well, that is an exaggeration, didn't fry it 01:16 < SuicidalZerg> But the audio steadily got more and more distorted as time passed 01:16 < mareklug> it's 9 dollars man. and free shipping if you buy enough shit to make it 25 dollars. 01:17 < mareklug> or start the free prime trier, then it will be free shipping. 01:17 < mareklug> trial 01:17 < SuicidalZerg> Well, that will have to wait till I can get some money 01:18 < mareklug> I have faith in your ability to raise 9 dollars. 01:18 < mareklug> remember amazon does not charge sales tax 01:18 < SuicidalZerg> But I have no job to speak of >.> 01:18 < SuicidalZerg> At least, not yet 01:19 < SuicidalZerg> still waiting on the results of one interview 01:20 < mareklug> anyway, go to RS and see if it ghosts, if it does, you will know something. and hey, they might actually give you a new one. 01:20 < mareklug> or is it only Apple that does that 01:21 < mareklug> and take the little brick with you. it might be it, which makes it even easier to handle. 01:22 < SuicidalZerg> little brick? 01:22 < SuicidalZerg> It's a simple plug 01:23 < mareklug> ah, so the powersupply sits inside 01:23 < SuicidalZerg> yeh 01:24 < mareklug> #1 in Electronics > Accessories & Supplies > Audio & Video Accessories > RF Modulators must be ok if #1 01:25 < SuicidalZerg> Well, I'm off to bed 01:26 -!- Captain-n00dle [~Cptn-n00d@wikipedia/Captain-n00dle] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:28 -!- My76Strat_ [~chatzilla@134.sub-70-193-64.myvzw.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:28 < SigmaWP> night 01:29 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:29 -!- My76Strat_ is now known as My76Strat 01:30 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@134.sub-70-193-64.myvzw.com] has quit [Client Quit] 01:33 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 01:38 -!- Ushau97 [~Ushau97@wikimedia/Ushau97] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:39 -!- kelapstick [ca83e93b@wikipedia/Kelapstick] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:45 -!- wctaiwan [8c7004c2@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:45 -!- Mr-ex777 [~chatzilla@cm218-253-17-171.hkcable.com.hk] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:47 < russavia> question: If during Ramadan, Muslims can not into eating during daylight hours, when Ramadan falls during northern summerish periods, when do muslims in say iceland with near 24/7 sunlight eat? 01:48 < SigmaWP> Maybe they have an island a bit south of there where you get an hour of darkness 01:48 < SigmaWP> and then you just take a rowboat there every day 01:48 < SigmaWP> eat 01:48 < SigmaWP> then go back 01:48 < wctaiwan> russavia cannot into respecting religions :v 01:49 < russavia> i am into respecting religions and cultures -- it's a valid question 01:49 < wctaiwan> Iunno. Do they actually live so far north? 01:50 < SigmaWP> Now wctaiwan cannot into respecting religions 01:50 < wctaiwan> it's a valid question. 01:51 < russavia> well i think sweden would answer that question for you wctaiwan 01:51 < russavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Iceland 01:52 < wctaiwan> does sweden actually not have a few hours of darkness in summer? 01:52 < russavia> http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_news/Al_Jazeera_Shoots_Documentary_on_Icelandic_Muslims_0_381183.news.aspx 01:53 < russavia> finland; where summer is the best day of the year 01:53 < wctaiwan> heh 01:54 -!- Elduen [~elduen@unaffiliated/andorin] has quit [Quit: I'm the greatest pirate-hunter in the world! AUYYEAHHH] 01:54 < russavia> but otherwise, it's a very valid question 01:55 < russavia> Bjelleklang might be able to answer 01:55 < bjelleklang> What? 01:55 < bjelleklang> Just a sec 01:55 < russavia> bjelleklang: question: If during Ramadan, Muslims can not into eating during daylight hours, when Ramadan falls during northern summerish periods, when do muslims in say iceland with near 24/7 sunlight eat? 01:57 < bjelleklang> Had to look this one up: http://www.utrop.no/22898 01:59 < bjelleklang> http://www.nordlys.no/nyheter/byavisa_tromso/article6153397.ece also give some more information 01:59 -!- Steven_Zhang [cb2352ab@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:00 < bjelleklang> As far as I can understand they follow the timezone Mecca is in, and probably fast at the same times 02:00 < russavia> so local imams issued a fatwa saying that fasting should not last more than 20 hours 02:01 < bjelleklang> Not only local Imams, it appears that one from Saudi-Arabia was involved as well 02:01 < wctaiwan> does protestant christianity have something similar to fatwas? 02:01 < bjelleklang> Only sensible solution really, according to the newspaper the sun is up for close to 23 hours a day 02:02 < bjelleklang> Not sure, but I doubt it 02:02 < russavia> wctaiwan: yes, it's call witch burning 02:02 < russavia> bjelleklang -- they need Monty Burns to build his sun blocking machine in Finnmark 02:04 < bjelleklang> Protestants are supposed to be independent as far as I know, but I'm not one so I can't really say for sure. I guess it depends on where in the world you are. Some might take their priest a bit more littorally than others :/ 02:05 -!- Timotheus_Canens [~chatzilla@c-71-235-83-141.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:05 -!- Timotheus_Canens [~chatzilla@c-71-235-83-141.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 02:05 -!- Timotheus_Canens [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Tim-Song] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:07 < russavia> anyway, it's interesting to know -- that's my useless fact for the day learned 02:08 < bjelleklang> :) 02:10 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: IRWolfie-, APexilI, MartijnH, LoganCloud, xid, greenrosetta, Mr-ex777, Yetanotherx 02:10 -!- Titoxd_ is now known as Titoxd 02:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: xid 02:10 -!- IRWolfie- [W0LF@nat/dcunetworkingsociety/x-oytcmndlcztypqop] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:10 -!- MartijnH [0298a3a9d5@h104217.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: LoganCloud 02:11 -!- greenrosetta [~greenrose@c-98-204-58-89.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:11 -!- greenrosetta [~greenrose@c-98-204-58-89.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 02:11 -!- greenrosetta [~greenrose@unaffiliated/greenrosetta] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:11 -!- Yetanotherx|afk [~Yetanothe@mcbouncer.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: APexilI 02:11 -!- Yetanotherx|afk is now known as Yetanotherx 02:11 -!- Yetanotherx [~Yetanothe@mcbouncer.com] has quit [Changing host] 02:11 -!- Yetanotherx [~Yetanothe@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Mr-ex777 02:11 -!- KimiNewt [~Kimihaha@bzq-84-111-141-63.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:13 -!- wctaiwan [8c7004c2@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:18 -!- Ushau971 [~Ushau97@wikimedia/Ushau97] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:19 -!- Ushau971 [~Ushau97@wikimedia/Ushau97] has quit [Client Quit] 02:19 -!- Ushau97 [~Ushau97@wikimedia/Ushau97] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:19 < russavia> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-22381593 old-age trolls? 02:22 -!- wctaiwan [8c701e84@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:24 -!- Ushau97 [~Ushau97@wikimedia/Ushau97] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:25 -!- varnent [~varnent@wikimedia/varnent] has quit [Quit: varnent] 02:27 -!- guillom [~guillaume@wikimedia/guillom] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:28 < SigmaWP> good night 02:29 -!- guillom [~guillaume@114.192.24.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:29 -!- guillom [~guillaume@114.192.24.109.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Changing host] 02:29 -!- guillom [~guillaume@wikimedia/guillom] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:31 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:32 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has quit [Client Quit] 02:35 -!- Con [vict@prison.uk.to] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:41 -!- Con [vict@prison.uk.to] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:43 -!- TheChance [~thechance@c-76-115-162-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:45 -!- Warhound [~chatzilla@46-64-89-33.zone15.bethere.co.uk] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:45 -!- Warhound [~chatzilla@46-64-89-33.zone15.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Changing host] 02:45 -!- Warhound [~chatzilla@wikipedia/deskana] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:47 -!- albel727 [~albel727@unaffiliated/albel727] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:51 -!- Computron_ [~quassel@gryllida.uk.to] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 02:51 -!- albel727 [~albel727@unaffiliated/albel727] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:55 -!- Computron [~quassel@71.19.149.210] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:55 -!- quanticle [~quanticle@wikipedia/Quanticle] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:55 -!- quanticle [~quanticle@quanticle.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:55 -!- Computron is now known as Guest23492 03:00 -!- NotASpy [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Heligoland] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:02 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has quit [Quit: You cannot logic someone out of an opinion they did not logic themselves into] 03:18 -!- Ryulong [~user.ryul@wikimedia/Ryulong] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:18 < Ryulong> can I get an admin to block this IP before he fucks up anyhing else http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.142.183.21 03:19 < Ushau97> Ryulong: why haven't you warned him with a standard messsage 03:20 < Ryulong> Because the new echo system means he doesn't get any fucking notifications on his talk page 03:21 < Ryulong> I've left him 5 different messages asking him to stop 03:21 < mareklug> "Katy Perry’s father calls her ‘devil child’ in sermon: report" http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/katy-perry-father-calls-devil-child-sermon-report-article-1.1333384?localLinksEnabled=false 03:22 < Ushau97> !admin Ryulong is requesting a block of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.142.183.21 03:22 -!- Timotheus_Canens [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Tim-Song] has left #wikipedia-en [] 03:23 < Ryulong> I really need to head out 03:23 -!- Ryulong is now known as Ryu-AFK 03:23 < mareklug> Ushau97 ahem, he is an ex admin and he knows how to use the stalkword. So if he IS NOT DOING IT, please don't do it for him. 03:23 < Ryu-AFK> !admin someone block that fucking IP before he fucks the page up more 03:23 < Ryu-AFK> hows that mareklug 03:23 < mareklug> better 03:24 < russavia> pokemon wars....noice 03:25 < kondi> http://www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com/2013/05/03/editorial-indo-pak-conflict-heightens-as-pakistani-prisoner-sanaullah-is-attacked-as-a-reaction-to-sarabjit-singh/ 03:25 < kondi> what the fuck 03:26 < russavia> Perry's mom and dad also asked for donations, "not one or two dollars, but 20s" so they can reportedly go to Switzerland. -- noice markelug 03:26 -!- lukas|away is now known as lukas23 03:26 -!- wctaiwan [8c701e84@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:26 < Ryu-AFK> russavia it's someone who keeps editing the article because he doesn't know anything that happened after 2002 03:26 < russavia> gib money plis so i can into holiday of swiss 03:27 < kondi> "let’s remember some Pakistani bodies that were tortured by Indian jail officials and returned to Pakistan during the past decade, with no reaction from the spineless governments in Pakistan, who were even more reluctant for the sake of CBM’s (Confidence Building Measures) with a state that is known for the worst violations of human rights" heh 03:27 < Ryu-AFK> can someone please protect the article or take up reverting I have to leave 03:27 -!- AzaToth [~azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:27 < russavia> kondi: it's india-pakistan -- no-one cares :P 03:28 < kondi> :-/ 03:28 < Ryu-AFK> leaving now 03:29 < Ushau97> Ryu-AFK: you mean revert every edit he does 03:29 < russavia> kondi: this is more important -- http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/kim-kardashian-freaks-fish-pedicure-article-1.1333229 03:31 < kondi> russavia: wait, I'm not even going to open that link.. :D 03:33 -!- Ushau97 [~Ushau97@wikimedia/Ushau97] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:33 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:33 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 03:33 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:35 -!- quanticle [~quanticle@quanticle.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:35 -!- IH|away [~Ironholds@wikipedia/Ironholds] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:36 -!- jbroome [jbroome@freenode/staff/lopsa.member.jbroome] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:36 -!- Guest23492 [~quassel@71.19.149.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:37 -!- LtNOWIS2 [~Simon@12.152.53.220] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:39 < NotASpy> Ryu-AFK: I've protected the article for 12 hours, the account is blocked again as {{anonblock}} but you should all know better than to continue reverting constantly. 03:39 -!- heb [~henrik@wikimedia/heb] has quit [Quit: moooh] 03:41 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:42 -!- marienz [~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz] has quit [Ping timeout: 624 seconds] 03:45 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@wikipedia/mkdw] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:45 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:48 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@wikipedia/mkdw] has quit [Client Quit] 03:49 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@pool-71-173-217-219.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:49 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@pool-71-173-217-219.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 03:49 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:52 -!- Computron [~quassel@gryllida.uk.to] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:53 -!- Computron is now known as Guest62090 03:53 -!- IH|away [~Ironholds@quominus.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:53 -!- jbroome [jbroome@freenode/staff/lopsa.member.jbroome] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:53 -!- IH|away is now known as Guest92205 03:54 < kondi> it's fucking 109 degrees 03:54 -!- marienz [~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:56 -!- quanticle [~quanticle@quanticle.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:56 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:57 < mareklug> kondi I just changed a wholre range of India's cities, and Sri Lanka's Colombo to boot (only 79 degrees there and thunderstorms), and it is in the range 91-95, only Delhi has 100. So where the fuck are you? 03:57 < mareklug> checked * 04:01 < kondi> Ahmedabad 04:02 < mareklug> fuck, you are right. 109 in my iMac desktop widget 04:03 < kondi> I like everything about this city except this fucking heat 04:03 < mareklug> but it will only hit 110, and get as low as 82 at night. level like that all week. 04:03 < kondi> yeah I saw that 04:03 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:04 < mareklug> it's 40 degrees in Chicago and in Duluth, Minnesota they had 12 inches of snow 2 days ago. 04:05 -!- LtNOWIS2 [~Simon@12.152.53.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:05 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has quit [Client Quit] 04:06 < kondi> coastal cities in my state have 85-95 degrees 04:07 < mareklug> i forget, how far inland is Ahmedabad? 04:08 < kondi> not much (can't tell in km) see the map 04:10 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@74.46.64.102] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:10 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@74.46.64.102] has quit [Changing host] 04:10 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:12 < kondi> 97 kms from the gulf of Khambhat 04:12 < mareklug> 60 miles or so. 04:12 < mareklug> probably too much to enjoy the marine climate :) 04:12 < kondi> yeah. 04:13 * kondi can't even have a chilled beer 04:14 -!- greenrosetta [~greenrose@unaffiliated/greenrosetta] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:15 -!- greenrosetta [~greenrose@unaffiliated/greenrosetta] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:15 * mareklug sends kondi a vision of a chilled Moosehead 04:17 * kondi visualizes a chilled Moosehead bottle and sighs 04:20 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:21 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:22 -!- PeterSJC [~myID@adsl-71-131-177-42.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:22 -!- Sadeukko [~AnXa@84-253-230-1.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:23 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:27 -!- PeterSJC [~myID@adsl-71-131-177-42.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:29 -!- PeterSJC [~myID@adsl-71-131-177-42.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:29 -!- wctaiwan [8c701e84@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:30 -!- PeterSJC [~myID@adsl-71-131-177-42.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 04:31 -!- FastLizard4 is now known as FastLizard4|zZzZ 04:33 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:34 -!- sdamashek [~Vacation9@pool-173-73-80-87.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:34 -!- sdamashek [~Vacation9@pool-173-73-80-87.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 04:34 -!- sdamashek [~Vacation9@wikipedia/Vacation9] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:37 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@pool-71-173-217-219.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:37 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@pool-71-173-217-219.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 04:37 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:40 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:42 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:43 -!- BewareofDoug [~Doug__@wikipedia/Doug] has left #wikipedia-en [] 04:50 -!- Chenzw [~chenzw@wikimedia/Chenzw] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:50 -!- KimiNewt [~Kimihaha@bzq-84-111-141-63.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:52 -!- shudde [3cf0f28e@wikipedia/Shudde] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:52 -!- KimiNewt [~Kimihaha@bzq-84-111-141-63.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:55 -!- Captain-n00dle [~Cptn-n00d@wikipedia/Captain-n00dle] has quit [Quit: Cheerio!] 04:56 -!- KimiNewt [~Kimihaha@bzq-84-111-141-63.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:59 -!- IShadowed_ is now known as IShadowed 05:01 < wctaiwan> mareklug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDt5sm0EBIY is just delightful 05:02 < greenrosetta> when did this new notification system start? 05:02 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:02 < greenrosetta> with the red inbox item? 05:02 < wctaiwan> a couple days ago 05:02 < greenrosetta> So no more orange bar? 05:03 < wctaiwan> there are hacks people made to bring it back. 05:03 -!- Jnorton7558_alt [whocares@cpe-66-66-239-72.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:03 -!- Jnorton7558_alt [whocares@cpe-66-66-239-72.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Changing host] 05:03 -!- Jnorton7558_alt [whocares@wikipedia/Jnorton7558] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:03 < wctaiwan> seems to be it 05:03 < greenrosetta> I think that's a mistake to lose it 05:03 < greenrosetta> its the only thing that will grab the attention of newbiews 05:03 -!- Jnorton7558 [whocares@cpe-66-66-239-72.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:03 -!- Jnorton7558_alt is now known as Jnorton7558 05:03 < wctaiwan> you're far from alone 05:03 < greenrosetta> i always walk alone 05:03 < greenrosetta> Do you know that poem "footprints in the sand"? 05:04 < greenrosetta> I carry God 05:04 < wctaiwan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notifications#Do_we_want_the_orange_bar.3F 05:04 < wctaiwan> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notifications#Do_we_want_the_orange_bar.3F 05:04 -!- ty [ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:05 < wctaiwan> I'm not religious. 05:07 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has left #wikipedia-en [] 05:07 < greenrosetta> me neither 05:12 < mareklug> russavia CNN just reported a Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker crashed in Kyrgyzstan with complete crew loss of life, no other detail. refueling tanker. 05:12 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:13 < russavia> yep, got email from .kg not long ago 05:13 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has left #wikipedia-en [] 05:14 < wctaiwan> >.< 05:14 < mareklug> wctaiwan Indiana University basketball team wears pants just like his coat, except the stripes are narrower. It's classic. 05:14 < wctaiwan> o_O 05:14 < mareklug> warmups 05:15 < wctaiwan> how do you like the playing itself? 05:15 < mareklug> it's very accomplished for ragtime 05:15 < wctaiwan> I mean, I don't know the difference between people who can play, and people who can play well 05:15 < wctaiwan> but he seems to be having a lot of fun while being good at it 05:15 < mareklug> it gets exposed on material. I am sure a classical pianist might at first have difficulty doing this, and certainly vice versa. 05:16 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:18 -!- Yellow_Evan [~chatzilla@ip70-180-214-180.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:18 -!- Yellow_Evan [~chatzilla@ip70-180-214-180.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:18 -!- Yellow_Evan [~chatzilla@ip70-180-214-180.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:18 -!- Yellow_Evan is now known as YE 05:19 < wctaiwan> It's something I noticed when I was at Disney World Resort (or whatever it's called) in Florida though. Disney staff are _very_ good at appearing cheerful 05:19 < wctaiwan> whether they are actually cheerful or not I really can't tell 05:19 < wctaiwan> I mean, I'd be driven mad in their line of work... 05:20 < wctaiwan> doing the same thing day after day. It's a fresh experience for the tourists, and even though you've done it countless times you still need to make it exciting for them. 05:20 < mareklug> they are carefully selected for this 05:21 < mareklug> russavia http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/us-military-plane-crashes-in-kyrgyzstan-fate-of-crew-unknown/2013/05/03/1de270b4-b3de-11e2-9fb1-62de9581c946_story.html 05:21 < mareklug> crew most likely in powder form, as the thing is said to have exploded in midflight 05:28 -!- ty [ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: wat] 05:28 < wctaiwan> hm, did rather worse on this exam than I'd hoped... 05:28 < wctaiwan> and I know I did even more horribly on this other one 05:28 < wctaiwan> oh dear. 05:29 -!- armufox [~armucat@ip70-180-86-176.no.no.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:31 -!- mathew [~mathews19@200.8.93.46] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:32 -!- mathew is now known as Guest42512 05:32 -!- armufox [~armucat@ip70-180-86-176.no.no.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:34 -!- Guest42512 is now known as MathewDriod 05:36 -!- MathewDriod is now known as jacsdev 05:37 < mareklug> wctaiwan they are selling eggs at 88 cents a dozen. unheard low price. 05:38 < wctaiwan> H7N9 05:38 < mareklug> hmm? 05:38 < mareklug> our eggs don't come from China (yet) 05:38 < wctaiwan> [[H7N9 avian influenza]] 05:40 < mareklug> that link does not work, this one does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avian_influenza#H7N9 05:41 < mareklug> or this in depth one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H7N9 05:42 < wctaiwan> mareklug: the link now works ;-) 05:42 * wctaiwan doesn't usually fail guessing URLs 05:42 < mareklug> anyway, I think eggs are being laid at record clip in the USA at the moment, hence the special. 05:42 < mareklug> :) 05:42 < wctaiwan> they're fearing their extinction? 05:42 < wctaiwan> too bad it won't help them... 05:43 < mareklug> maybe it is the longer day? 05:43 < wctaiwan> no idea. 05:43 < wctaiwan> not a chicken expert. 05:43 < mareklug> how much are eggs in Taipei? 05:43 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179046224.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 05:44 < wctaiwan> I think between 13 and 34 US cents a pop 05:44 < wctaiwan> I'm not sure though. 05:44 < mareklug> you buy eggs by one???????? 05:44 < wctaiwan> I don't. 05:45 < mareklug> i mean, the Taipei customers. 05:45 < wctaiwan> some do--but we've got plastic dozen boxes too. 05:45 < mareklug> 34 cents an egg is highway robbery. 05:45 < wctaiwan> it's free range. 05:46 < mareklug> it's still highway robbery. and it's Taiwan, for fuck's sake. How much free range can a chicken have on such a small island. :/ 05:47 < wctaiwan> right. 05:47 < wctaiwan> you know what's highway robbery? starbucks. 05:47 < mareklug> starbacks is not just highway robbery, it is highway snobbery 05:48 < wctaiwan> good one. 05:51 -!- Moe_Epsilon [~David@wikimedia/Moe-Epsilon] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:54 -!- Izawayz is now known as Izhidez 05:57 -!- ChrisGualtieri [ae3ebae3@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:58 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:02 < mareklug> Lana Del Ray has a song called Diet Mountain Dew, and I wonder if Isarra has heard it. Or if Isarra drinks the diet Dew. 06:02 < Isarra> Nope nope. 06:02 < Isarra> The Cheese God scorns mountain dew and I follow the Cheese God in everything. 06:03 < wctaiwan> diet mountain dew, you mean. 06:03 < mareklug> hold on. you are always ON about Mountain Dew. 06:03 < Isarra> Cheese. 06:03 < mareklug> Isarra fess up. Regular or Diet Dew? 06:03 < wctaiwan> I'm enjoying http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yJz8u6dyGY too much for my own good (highly NSFW lyrics) 06:04 * Isarra mutters about the apotheosis of cheese. 06:04 < mareklug> can never be buggered at all does not strike me very much as New South Fucking Wales 06:05 < wctaiwan> well, the title of the song (and nothing else) comes from a British writer. 06:05 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 06:05 < wctaiwan> though I think marek would be perfectly able to see why I'd enjoy such a song. 06:05 < Isarra> Yer bugger. 06:05 < wctaiwan> and not because of the bestiality. 06:07 < mareklug> I think bugger is a snot who installs surveillance, in American. 06:09 -!- YE is now known as YE|AFK 06:09 -!- Guest92205 is now known as Ironholds 06:09 -!- Ironholds [~Ironholds@quominus.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [Changing host] 06:09 -!- Ironholds [~Ironholds@wikipedia/Ironholds] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:10 < wctaiwan> hello, Ironholds 06:10 < Isarra> You have buggers and buggerers and other buggered things. 06:10 < Isarra> The Cheese Gods assures it to be so. 06:11 -!- killerRND [~coyoteMVW@112.145.218.110] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:11 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:12 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:12 < wctaiwan> The Cheese Gos is horrible at math. 06:12 -!- killerRND [~coyoteMVW@112.145.218.110] has left #wikipedia-en [] 06:12 < Isarra> The Cheese God has identity issues from time to time. Something about eddies in the space time continuum. 06:13 < wctaiwan> makes life a bit difficult 06:13 < Writ_Keeper> wait, who's eddie? 06:14 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has quit [Quit: Bjarki] 06:14 < Ironholds> hey, wctaiwan 06:15 < wctaiwan> Ironholds: are possible watchlist bugs your department? 06:15 < Ironholds> not in the slightest. 06:15 < mareklug> Isarra are you serious about cheese now? this would not be some velveeta thing now, would it? 06:15 < wctaiwan> huh, alright then. 06:16 < Isarra> The Cheese God knows all, for the Cheese God must know all, for He is the Cheese God, among other gods. Gods by the bushel, gods by the pound... gods for every occasion, as it were, and surely at least some of them know it all. 06:16 < wctaiwan> I'm mostly just wondering whether something should go on VPT or Bugzilla. 06:16 < Writ_Keeper> I still want to know who Eddie is. And is this his couch? 06:16 < Isarra> It has cheese on it. 06:17 < Isarra> Okay, I have a problem. I have an omniscient Cheese God. o__o 06:18 < wctaiwan> that's hardly the worst problem you have, lady.. 06:18 < Isarra> Oh? 06:18 < wctaiwan> done with math? 06:18 < Isarra> Yes. 06:18 < Isarra> The Cheese God was supposed to be for my paper. 06:19 < wctaiwan> oh 06:19 < Isarra> But this is... problematic. 06:19 < wctaiwan> gah, I'll just yell at VPT. someone can take it to bugzilla if appropriate. 06:19 < Isarra> I mean, my last paper was a little weird, but I seem to have completely gone off the deep end with this one... 06:19 < mareklug> Isarra is it still winter in them foothills? 06:20 < Isarra> Today it appears to be spring. 06:20 < Isarra> Yesterday was spring. 06:20 < Isarra> Day before was winter, though. 06:20 < Isarra> Probably won't be winter again until next week. 06:20 < mareklug> MJ64 had 12 inches of snow fall in his Duluth, Minnesota yesterday or so 06:21 < mareklug> MJ94 06:21 < Isarra> We got a wonderful mass of slush. 06:21 < Isarra> Which melted yesterday. 06:22 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:23 -!- Vito [~quassel@unaffiliated/vito] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:24 < wctaiwan> Isarra: should a watchlist issue be filed under mediawiki or wikimedia? 06:24 < wctaiwan> I have no idea if this sort of thing is specific to WMF at all or part of core.. 06:24 -!- Vito_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/vito] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:24 < Isarra> You're asking me? o_O 06:24 -!- shudde [3cf0f28e@wikipedia/Shudde] has left #wikipedia-en [] 06:24 < Isarra> What's the issue? 06:25 < wctaiwan> every wikidata change is being shown, as opposed to just the latest 06:25 < Isarra> If it's extension related or specific to the wikimedia wikifamily configuration, that could affect... something. 06:25 < wctaiwan> okay, so WMF. 06:25 < Isarra> See if there's a thing for wikidata. 06:28 < wctaiwan> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48047 06:28 < wctaiwan> someone can move it if they want 06:29 < wctaiwan> anyway, time to go home. 06:29 -!- wctaiwan [8c701e84@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [] 06:35 -!- KimiNewt [~Kimihaha@bzq-84-111-141-63.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:38 -!- sdamashek [~Vacation9@wikipedia/Vacation9] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 06:46 -!- MrsHetfield [~Blah@CPE-58-164-9-60.lnse5.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:52 -!- jacsdev [~mathews19@200.8.93.46] has quit [Quit: ThrashIRC v2.9 sic populo comunicated] 06:52 -!- martijnhh [~MartijnH@wikipedia/Martijn-Hoekstra] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:53 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:53 -!- bjelleklang [~chris@wikipedia/Bjelleklang] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:54 -!- mathew [~mathews19@200.8.93.46] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:54 -!- mathew is now known as Guest4816 06:55 -!- MrsHetfield [~Blah@CPE-58-164-9-60.lnse5.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 06:55 -!- Guest4816 is now known as jacsdev 06:58 -!- rindolf [~shlomif@109.67.167.2] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:58 < rindolf> Hi all. 06:58 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:00 < ChrisGualtieri> When uploading a derivative work to commons, how do I mention it? 07:01 < ChrisGualtieri> Specifically I found a public domain file, altered it by basically cropping it down, and I want to credit the original creator who produced the text depiction of the original 07:01 < closedmouth> derived from X 07:02 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:02 < ChrisGualtieri> How do I indicate that on the upload form? 07:04 < Isarra> There are templates that I never recall what they're called. 07:04 < Isarra> For lack of that just saying the source is 'from [[whatever]], [[whatever]] etc' works. 07:04 < Isarra> Or I hope it does. >.> 07:05 < ChrisGualtieri> This is the original worko 07:05 < ChrisGualtieri> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hentai-kanji-kana.png 07:05 < Isarra> Oh. 07:05 < ChrisGualtieri> I cut the hiragana and katakana off but it won't let me attribute in the upload wizard 07:05 < mareklug> well if you already have THAT on commons, do use the derrived work template. you can add that after the upload. 07:05 < Isarra> So then under other versions or whatever. 07:06 < ChrisGualtieri> Do I put it under 'own work'? 07:06 < ChrisGualtieri> The two options are: This file is my own work. This file is not my own work. 07:06 < mareklug> that depends on degree of modification. a simple crop would not qualify 07:07 < Isarra> Is it your own work? 07:08 < closedmouth> ChrisGualtieri: that's not even copyrightable 07:08 < ChrisGualtieri> Well true, but there is no option for that and I do want to refer back 07:09 < closedmouth> it's your own work, based on something that is copyright-free 07:09 < ChrisGualtieri> ok 07:09 < closedmouth> so, it's your own work 07:10 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:10 < mareklug> http://toolserver.org/~luxo/derivativeFX/ this used the be the absolutely easiest way to upload derivative works. but it is gone, maybe moved? 07:11 < mareklug> here you go http://toolserver.org/~luxo/derivativeFX/help/helpdesk.php?theme=whatisthat&lang=en 07:12 < ChrisGualtieri> thanks 07:12 < Isarra> Accurate spelling is a side effect of eating too much walrus butt. 07:13 < Isarra> Just so you know. 07:13 < ChrisGualtieri> It won't grab the file and won't met me proceed 07:13 < mareklug> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Luxo#Issue_with_derivativeFX this is from 29 April 2013. damn the tool is SOMEWHERE. 07:14 -!- jacsdev [~mathews19@200.8.93.46] has quit [Quit: ThrashIRC v2.9 sic populo comunicated] 07:14 < mareklug> ChrisGualtieri what link are you using for the tool? 07:14 < ChrisGualtieri> your first one marek 07:14 -!- jacs [~jacsdev@200.8.93.46] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:15 < mareklug> figures. I am getting 404 errors 07:15 -!- jacs [~jacsdev@200.8.93.46] has quit [Client Quit] 07:15 < mareklug> or 500 Internal SErver ERros. 07:15 -!- jacs [~jacsdev@200.8.93.46] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:15 -!- TheDruId [4aeff6fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.239.246.250] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:16 < mareklug> ah, i got it finally 07:16 -!- Chenzw [~chenzw@wikimedia/Chenzw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:16 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:17 -!- Doug_Weller [~Doug_Well@wikipedia/Dougweller] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:17 -!- jacs [~jacsdev@200.8.93.46] has quit [Client Quit] 07:17 -!- jacs [~jacsdev@200.8.93.46] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:18 < mareklug> ChrisGualtieri the toolserver is being flakey and unpredictable. so YMMV. If you get it when it is happy to be working, it will go. 07:18 < mareklug> right now it is Loading… Please wait GET… for me without end 07:18 < ChrisGualtieri> Same... I just uploaded it anyways 07:19 -!- jacs [~jacsdev@200.8.93.46] has quit [Client Quit] 07:19 < ChrisGualtieri> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hentai-kanji.png Doesn't look like I did it right... but its there 07:21 < mareklug> Sino-Japonese -- are you sure this is in English? not the Sino part 07:23 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:23 < mareklug> ChrisGualtieri ^ 07:24 < ChrisGualtieri> Lol typo must have been in the original source file 07:24 < ChrisGualtieri> It is. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hentai-kanji.png 07:27 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Quit: User has quit this network.] 07:27 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:27 -!- kkthecoder [~kk@101.210.125.100] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:28 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:29 -!- Qcoder00 [~chatzilla@gfarlie-adsl.demon.co.uk] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:29 < Qcoder00> Slow? 07:31 < ChrisGualtieri> Alright.... now next step... produce a banner for the Wikiproject. 07:31 < ChrisGualtieri> I got everything I needed from the banner meta template, but do I just place the banner at Template:Wikiproject or something? 07:35 < mattbuck> yes! today is a good day for gender equality 07:35 < mattbuck> first ever woman on the fbi's most wanted 07:36 < ChrisGualtieri> Not true. >.>; Cite source otherwise 07:36 < mattbuck> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22397295 07:36 -!- quanticle [~quanticle@quanticle.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [Changing host] 07:36 -!- quanticle [~quanticle@wikipedia/Quanticle] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:37 < Mdann52> There you go.... 07:38 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 07:38 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:39 -!- Betacommand [~Betacomma@unaffiliated/betacommand] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:40 < wctaiwan> anyone interested in hiring a useless telecommuting coder over the summer? >_> 07:40 < ChrisGualtieri> bit misleading http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/america-s-most-wanted-the-most-dangerous-woman-in-the-world-a-593195.html 07:41 < Isarra> wctaiwan: Uncyclopedia will hire you if you accept payment in the form of old phonebooks. 07:41 < Mdann52> :D 07:41 < ChrisGualtieri> The claim is "FBI's list of "Most Wanted Terrorists". not FBI's most wanted in general 07:41 < mattbuck> wctaiwan, I heard about this, you'll just get chinese coders to do it 07:41 < mattbuck> whatever 07:42 < wctaiwan> mattbuck: I assure you it'll be myself doing the coding. I don't guarantee the code will work, on the other hand... 07:42 < ChrisGualtieri> Anyways... how do I create a template page? 07:42 < Mdann52> The same as any other page..... 07:42 < mattbuck> go to Template:Name and create it 07:43 < Isarra> wctaiwan: What about GSoC? 07:43 < wctaiwan> Isarra: too late 07:43 < Isarra> I think you still have a couple hours. 07:43 < Mdann52> Or anywhere else, for that matter.... 07:43 < wctaiwan> yeah, but that's not nearly enough to research and prepare whatever it is that I need to research and prepare >.< 07:44 < Isarra> Sure it is if you start now!\ 07:44 < Isarra> Find someone to mentor you and they can help. 07:44 -!- James_F|Away is now known as James_F 07:45 < wctaiwan> April 9 - 21: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. 07:45 < wctaiwan> May 3: 19:00 UTC Student application deadline. 07:45 < wctaiwan> yeah no >.< 07:45 -!- mindspillage [~kat@70-7-37-69.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:45 -!- mindspillage [~kat@70-7-37-69.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Changing host] 07:45 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:45 -!- lukas23 is now known as lukas|afk 07:45 < Isarra> I think James_F is a mentor. Maybe you could fudge something with him. 07:45 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:46 < Isarra> Two hours is plenty of time. 07:46 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:46 < Isarra> Or is it four hours? 07:47 < Warhound> Is Wikipedia going incredibly slow for anyone else>? 07:47 < Isarra> It's always slow for me. 07:48 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:49 < wctaiwan> seems to be normal here 07:49 < wctaiwan> http://status.wikimedia.org some servers are having issues 07:50 < mareklug> you mean they are bearing little baby servers? 07:50 < wctaiwan> that'd be bad. 07:51 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:51 < Isarra> Why would it be bad? 07:51 < Isarra> Babies mean reproduction, which means more servers. 07:52 < wctaiwan> singularity 07:52 < wctaiwan> metaprogramming putting us programmers out of jobs. 07:52 < Isarra> We've taken up drinking for a reason. 07:54 < TheDruId> I've taken up drinking for a lifetime. 07:58 < Qcoder00> Are people in Europe? 07:58 -!- Hahc21 [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:59 < Qcoder00> I've been getting some slow speeds talking with other European sites 07:59 < Qcoder00> (like gov.uk) 07:59 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@wikipedia/Juxo] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:04 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@74.46.64.102] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:04 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@74.46.64.102] has quit [Changing host] 08:04 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:04 -!- Mr-ex777 [~chatzilla@cm218-253-17-171.hkcable.com.hk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 08:04 < mareklug> if anyone has a Kensington Trackball, there is a new TrackballWorks driver out as of March 11 for the Mac and jan 10 for windows 32/64-bit 08:05 < TheDruId> Qcoder00, that's why I always pull up http://internettrafficreport.com/ 08:06 < Isarra> wctaiwan: Could I ask you to read my paper for me and tell me if it makes any sense? 08:06 < wctaiwan> okay 08:06 < Isarra> http://wiki.zaori.org/wiki/Dreamer_upon_the_board 08:07 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [] 08:07 -!- SoapX [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:08 * wctaiwan clicks 08:09 < wctaiwan> what's the context? 08:09 -!- Nickinator [~Nickinato@123-243-142-239.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:10 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:10 < TheDruId> And here's why internet numbers arguments should always be doomed to fail: 08:10 < TheDruId> http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/fake-belieber-epidemic-justin-gaga-rihanna-don-t-132425987.html 08:12 -!- Fluff|away is now known as Fluffernutter 08:12 < Isarra> wctaiwan: Evaluating an argument about free will being incompatible with divine foreknowledge. 08:13 < TheDruId> I equate it to any child setting their own bedtime versus that set by adults. 08:14 < Isarra> I wish I could set my own bedtime. 08:14 -!- darev [~darev@p54AABE25.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:14 -!- bluebot88 [~bluebot@32.97.110.53] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:14 < darev> Hello! 08:14 < Isarra> ...I wish I could go to bed. o__o 08:14 < wctaiwan> Isarra: it's interesting writing but I'm not sure it answers the question 08:15 < TheDruId> darev, always nice to see you. 08:15 < kondi> hey darev! 08:15 < wctaiwan> or indeed what your stance is on the argument... 08:15 < Isarra> Crap. 08:15 < darev> Thx, TheDruId 08:15 < Isarra> wctaiwan: How do I come up with a stance? 08:15 < darev> hi to you and kondi as well as to the rest of you :) 08:16 < wctaiwan> I mean, I vaguely see that you're arguing that there is free will 08:16 < Isarra> Beyond that the universe is barking mad, that is. 08:16 < Isarra> Because that's my stance. 08:16 < Isarra> Which isn't exactly relevant. 08:16 < wctaiwan> and it's not incompatible with divine foreknowledge 08:16 < TheDruId> Isarra, pick which side you think can be supported by debate. 08:16 < wctaiwan> iunno. My writing tends to be a lot more boring. 08:16 < Isarra> TheDruId: They all can! 08:16 < wctaiwan> and not as much cheese. 08:16 < wctaiwan> not _nearly_ as much. 08:17 < ChrisGualtieri> Alright.. i got the banner page working, but it is automatically rated? Or is it something wrong with my cache? 08:17 < Isarra> There was only a cheese god. No actual cheese. 08:17 < TheDruId> Isarra, it's like 6 people standing around a globe; they all see and describe only from their own perspective, none of them are wrong. 08:18 < Isarra> TheDruId: Exactly! There's A theory of time as well as B theory, and that's without even getting into the matter at hand! 08:18 -!- lukas|afk is now known as lukas23 08:19 < Isarra> And I ain't lunatic enough to say anything mathematical about it. 08:19 -!- bluebot88 [~bluebot@32.97.110.53] has left #wikipedia-en [] 08:19 < SoapX> that OMHG articl contradicts itself at least twice 08:19 < SoapX> well I guess really only once 08:19 < SoapX> theyre just not clear about it 08:21 -!- tttb [~tom@host-89-242-48-32.as13285.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:21 < wctaiwan> Isarra: thing is, I think it's interesting, but if it's an assignment it really depends on whether the teacher wants an interesting piece of writing or a clear argument 08:21 < Isarra> wctaiwan: I don't know what he wants! 08:22 < TheDruId> Isarra, to be consulted for guidance, like any instructor. 08:22 < Isarra> He does, but I'm afraid I'm not on top of things enough for that. 08:24 < Moe_Epsilon> Interesting.. 682 active administrators, 761 semi-active/inactive administrators and 638 former administrators o.o 08:26 -!- Interim [41af89e1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.175.137.225] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:26 < Isarra> Last time I gave him a story about an old man falling asleep in his hair. o__o 08:27 < Isarra> ...I was falling asleep when I wrote it. 08:30 < wctaiwan> >.< 08:35 < Ironholds> Moe_Epsilon: based on what definition? 08:36 < Moe_Epsilon> Ironholds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_administrators defines active/semi-active/inactive 08:36 < Moe_Epsilon> the number of active is disputed, considering the low threshold 08:37 -!- moogsi [~moogsi@wikimedia/moogsi] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:37 < Ironholds> well, that's not a useful metric, at all. 08:37 < Ironholds> surely what we care about is admin actions. 08:38 -!- CUDA_Nuk [~Alveric@207-47-230-55.regn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:38 < SoapX> yeah I know 08:38 < SoapX> it's historically what we use to measure activity, I think, both for admins and others 08:38 < Ironholds> it's dumb. 08:38 < Moe_Epsilon> I'm pretty sure no one would like to know that, it might send them in an actual panic ;p 682 active and we keep masses comfortable 08:39 < SoapX> eg. when they did the whole inactive admin desysopping thing, they saved any admin that had any edits in the last year, regardless of if they had done any adminning 08:39 -!- Damaki [~Damaki@sat78-h01-5-50-47-206.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:39 -!- Damaki [~Damaki@sat78-h01-5-50-47-206.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has left #wikipedia-en [] 08:41 -!- Tintaggon [~Alveric@207-47-230-55.regn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:41 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:41 < Moe_Epsilon> SoapX: if we changed the metric to at least 1 admin action, admins would come back and make one admin log in their userspace and call it quits for a year instead of one edit 08:42 < SoapX> yeah I know 08:42 < SoapX> we're on the honor system 08:42 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has left #wikipedia-en [] 08:42 < SoapX> this was at least partly in response to the discovery that there were some rogue sysops lurking around 08:42 < Isarra> Make wctaiwan an admin. 08:42 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:43 < Isarra> He could counter the rogues. 08:43 < wctaiwan> stop canvassing :v 08:43 < Isarra> By doing nothing. 08:43 * Isarra huggles wctaiwan and falls asleep on him. 08:44 < Moe_Epsilon> SoapX: Basically. My proposal was 30 edits/logs combination outside of the userspace in a year. That way, even if they only came back once a year and did the minimum, we'd at least get ~22,500 edits/logs that were productive. 08:45 < Isarra> Sneaky. 08:45 < SoapX> but they can always just ask for the tools back anyway 08:45 < SoapX> the desysopping is just ceremonial 08:45 < SoapX> its only if they go *three* years with no edits that they have to run another RfA 08:45 -!- blizarre [blizarre@87.69.13.196.cable.012.net.il] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:45 < SoapX> Unless youre proprosing to also change that 08:46 < SoapX> i think there were a couple of admins that we refused to give admin access to, for various reasons 08:46 < TheDruId> I'd propose one per year; double it annually, tools returned upon request. Stop increasing if the number of admin actions required exceeds every admin. 08:46 < SoapX> one of them came back after like 3 years and 2 days and we said NOPE TOO LATE 08:46 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:47 < Moe_Epsilon> yes, there have been. And no, lengthy inactivity doesn't need changing. 08:47 < Moe_Epsilon> also, that applies to a lot of users, it's not a small list 08:47 < Moe_Epsilon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Former_administrators/reason/long-term_inactive 08:49 < SoapX> !!!!!WHOA!!!!! 08:49 < SoapX> Special:RenameUser is being moved to Meta only 08:49 < SoapX> that means there will be no more user-renaming at all on any wiki other than the meta wiki 08:50 < Moe_Epsilon> yes, renaming is going to be global only from now on 08:50 < Moe_Epsilon> local 'crats won't be doing renaming anymore 08:50 < SoapX> are they going to take away my username ? 08:50 < SoapX> there's two other users named Soap 08:50 < Moe_Epsilon> if you own the SUL, no. 08:50 < SoapX> one of them said he's OK with giving me his username, but Ive never bothered to ask 08:51 < Moe_Epsilon> If you own the SUL, the other Soaps will be renamed like Soap~dewiki 08:51 < Moe_Epsilon> for example 08:51 < SoapX> the other one has 1 edit on the entire global range of projects and says no 08:51 < SoapX> ah 08:51 < SoapX> well that will fix that old import bug 08:51 < SoapX> where edits Ive made here that were imported to de look like they were made by the other Soap 08:52 < SoapX> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beitr%C3%A4ge/Soap <--- not me : ) 08:52 < Moe_Epsilon> yep, then you'll be able to contribute to those two wikis if you want with your global name :p 08:52 < SoapX> oh awesome. so that's a win for me 08:52 < SoapX> i can finally get rid of that annoying guy with 1 edit 08:53 < SoapX> I thought it was just going to be an "everybody loses" scenario where SUL is irrelevant and even a single edit by one other user can bump you off 08:53 < SoapX> that's what some people were paranoid about when SUL was created in the first place 08:54 < TheDruId> SoapX, We fear change. 08:54 < Moe_Epsilon> nah too complicated lol, it's now where everyone is going to have a SUL, and if you own a SUL already, non-attached accounts are bumped off it 08:55 < SoapX> yay 08:55 < SoapX> take that Soap@en.wikinews 08:55 < SoapX> the dewiki Soap is nice though 08:55 < SoapX> but he's said he's OK with losing the name anyway 08:56 < TheDruId> Fragrant? 08:56 < tommorris> we had a Soap at en.wikinews? 08:56 < SoapX> yeah 08:56 < SoapX> with 1 edit 08:56 < mareklug> http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/blackberry-ceo-tablets-will-be-dead-in-five-years/2013/04/30/dd3b6446-b18d-11e2-bbf2-a6f9e9d79e19_singlePage.html?tid=obnetwork 08:56 < SoapX> ah yes Blackberry 08:56 < mareklug> I rather think that BlackBerry will be dead in 5 years, not tablets 08:57 < TheDruId> What's that? 08:57 < SoapX> now theres a company I trust to be on the ball with technology 08:57 < SoapX> I mean just look at how well their own tablet is selling 08:57 < mareklug> they don't have a tablet, they have a large phone 08:57 < moogsi> BlackBerry is dead on its feet 08:57 < Moe_Epsilon> I went ahead and SUL'ed my old account since I couldn't do it before back in 2008. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Kaiba I bumped off fifteen people. May be a dick move, but I went for it. 08:58 < SoapX> does that mean youre going to change your enwiki username to Kaiba as well? 08:58 < mareklug> Moe "Dick Move" Epsilon 08:58 < SoapX> heh 08:59 < Moe_Epsilon> I was going to use the name Kaiba back then, but I couldn't SUL, so I had to go back to my old account 08:59 < Moe_Epsilon> I had no intention of using this name again 08:59 < Moe_Epsilon> and no one else used "Moe Epsilon" so it was an easy global fix 09:00 < SoapX> hmm, the meta page doesnt say that people with SUL will be able to keep thier usernames 09:00 < SoapX> youre sure? 09:00 -!- Qcoder00 [~chatzilla@gfarlie-adsl.demon.co.uk] has left #wikipedia-en [] 09:00 < SoapX> its weird that theyre using a ~ in the name 09:00 < SoapX> that's otherwise a forbidden character, i think 09:00 < SoapX> i wonder if they chose it to leave an opening for some sort of future software feature 09:01 < Moe_Epsilon> basically, there's only like one exception I think. If there was a Soap who was a 'crat or checkuser on another project, you would get bumped instead 09:01 < Moe_Epsilon> but I think that's the only exception 09:01 < SoapX> hmmph. favoritism 09:01 < Moe_Epsilon> status > # of edits :P 09:01 < Ironholds> I've got the day to do research. 09:02 < Ironholds> Anyone want any interesting data-related questions answered about a Wikimedia project? 09:02 < SoapX> well, even so, common sense would indicate that theyd let me keep my name since Im the only active user 09:03 < TheDruId> How many British and international Wikipedians are projected for Wikimania2014? 09:04 < Moe_Epsilon> SoapX: you shouldn't have any worries :P 09:04 < Moe_Epsilon> not like en.wikinews Soap is going to be favored 09:05 < SoapX> there's probably going to be quite a few conflicts though 09:05 < SoapX> people who use names like John 09:05 < SoapX> well no 09:05 < Moe_Epsilon> John is an admin on en.wiki 09:05 < Moe_Epsilon> :P 09:05 < SoapX> people who use names that are common translingually, like Andrea 09:06 < SoapX> and Daniel (though that particular conflict was solved in 2008, i think. the humble and kind de.wiki user agreed to give his name to the en.wiki one) 09:07 < SoapX> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Single_User_Login_finalisation_announcement#question_for_unique_names 09:07 < SoapX> is where it says that SUL is the key 09:07 < SoapX> well i might sound selfish but Ive become attached to my usenrame 09:07 < SoapX> i wouldn wanna lose it 09:08 * Moe_Epsilon doesn't even want his current name or old name anymore |: 09:08 < Moe_Epsilon> I just want my name lol 09:09 < SoapX> wow theyre really going over this thorouighly 09:09 < SoapX> theyve thought of every possible bug 09:09 < SoapX> theyre predicting 3 million renames though, so it's important to be thorough 09:10 < SoapX> imagine doing it manually 09:10 < SoapX> "yeah we'll have this done in, oh, about 20 years" 09:10 < Moe_Epsilon> I'm hoping once they start doing global renaming of accounts (and once the mess is mostly sorted), I can rename globally despite having over 100,000 edits. I've heard that's a problem. 09:11 < SoapX> yeah, theyre saying a limit of 5000 09:11 < Moe_Epsilon> :< 09:11 * Moe_Epsilon is forever Moe 09:12 < Moe_Epsilon> even my old Kaiba name is 12,000 lol I'm just fucked unless I started over completely 09:12 -!- hackerGBQ [~kniferSWB@2.51.74.35] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:13 < mareklug> what's this about renaming and needing less than 5k edits? 09:14 < SoapX> it might be 5000 per project 09:14 < SoapX> and they might raise the limit later 09:14 < SoapX> my guess is they just dont wanna deal with the absolute chaos of renames-gone-wrong when theyre talking about *3 million* accounts 09:14 < Moe_Epsilon> I just saw something Jdforrester posted: There isn't a 5000 edit limit for this script; for global renames, that is a provisional limit to avoid over-loading the servers. 09:14 < SoapX> yeah, thats where I got the figure too 09:14 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:15 < James_F> SoapX: So, I'm not saying 5000, I'm saying /not/ 5000. 09:15 < SoapX> oh youre jdforrester? cool 09:15 < SoapX> didnt know 09:15 < James_F> SoapX: Clearly I'm not communicating well enough. ;-) 09:15 < SoapX> nice to see you here 09:15 -!- kkthecoder [~kk@101.210.125.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:16 < Moe_Epsilon> James_F: so once I let you guys deal with the mass amount of collateral damage from the moves, if I wanted, I could rename globally? I have well over 100,000 edits 09:17 < James_F> Moe_Epsilon: Theoretically; it's not me you'd have to convince, but the stewards. 09:17 < James_F> Moe_Epsilon: I just provide the tools, they decide how to use them. 09:17 < Moe_Epsilon> :< 09:19 -!- Ryu-AFK is now known as Ryulong 09:19 -!- ty [ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:19 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:21 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:24 -!- Izhidez is now known as Izawayz 09:25 < TheDruId> Until next week, then... 09:25 -!- TheDruId [4aeff6fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.239.246.250] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:26 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:26 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 09:26 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:26 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:26 -!- Interim [41af89e1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.175.137.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:26 -!- Mdann52 [~Mdann52@wikipedia/Mdann52] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:26 -!- FastLizard4|zZzZ is now known as FastLizard4 09:28 -!- Interim [41af89e1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.175.137.225] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:33 -!- Ryulong [~user.ryul@wikimedia/Ryulong] has quit [] 09:37 -!- muahaha|AFK is now known as muahaha 09:39 -!- Sarcasm [~Panda@unaffiliated/sarcasm] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:39 < mareklug> Married same-sex couples have the same rights as married heterosexuals to have both parents listed on the birth certificates of their newborn children, the Iowa Supreme Court ruled this morning. 09:40 < Moe_Epsilon> same sex marriage is legal in Iowa? 09:40 < mareklug> about 2 years? 09:40 < Moe_Epsilon> hmm, didn't know that 09:41 < mareklug> "…follow the 2009 court case that legalized same-sex marriage in Iowa." longer 09:41 < Moe_Epsilon> ahh :p 09:41 < Moe_Epsilon> seems like an odd thing to make official in 2013 lol 09:42 < mareklug> supreme court. w/o looking, I'd say it culminated a long battle in the courts. 09:42 -!- Mike_H [~quassel@72.184.56.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:43 < mareklug> yup. "Friday's ruling stems from a lawsuit brought by Melissa and Heather Gartner after the state refused in 2009 to list both of their names on the birth certificate of their daughter, Mackenzie. Heather had given birth to the baby conceived via sperm donor." 09:43 < Moe_Epsilon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Samesex_marriage_in_USA.svg neat map 09:43 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:44 -!- Mdann52 [~Mdann52@wikipedia/Mdann52] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:44 < mareklug> "Iowa law says that if a woman is married, the husband must be legally deemed the father unless a court order states otherwise." 09:44 < mareklug> very interesting law. 09:44 < Moe_Epsilon> o_O hmm 09:44 < Pharos> i think that's common in many places 09:44 < Pharos> or used to be 09:44 < mareklug> basically, they legally proscribed bastards 09:45 < Pharos> bastards are too much paperwork 09:46 < Pharos> also, this type of law is importnat for child support i think 09:46 -!- ASchulz|away is now known as AaronSchulz 09:46 < mareklug> perhaps. but if your wife gives birth to an obviously alternatively-fathered child, you are up a creek trying to divorce her for it, as you are legally its father. 09:46 < Pharos> divorced men can't say "i'm not the father!" without evidence 09:47 -!- hackerGBQ [~kniferSWB@2.51.74.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:47 < SoapX> im guessing they make exceptions for obvious circumstances 09:48 < mareklug> it is the nonobvious that matter. 09:48 < SoapX> like if a guy marries a woman who already has 10+-year-old children 09:48 < Pharos> it's not about obvious, it's about proff being required for for nonpaternity 09:48 < SoapX> and the woman is stiklkl getting child support from the real father 09:48 < mareklug> I think people should have the right to contest fatherhood in all cases. 09:48 < Pharos> which is easy to get with DNA 09:48 < Pharos> nowadays 09:48 < SoapX> those kids dont suddenly become "his" 09:48 < russavia> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nipple_of_the_Eye_in_the_Sky_(5738690522).jpg -- could this be notable? 09:48 < SoapX> at least I would think not 09:49 < Moe_Epsilon> I'm almost sure that isn't a nipple 09:49 < Pharos> russavia: looks like a parked blimp 09:50 < mareklug> first of all, what do you mean by notable? just because the person named a foto whimsically? 09:50 < Pharos> it looks like an aircraft, i guess the type of aircfaft is notable 09:50 < russavia> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxkqlzax4-k it's a high tech surveillance balloon apparently 09:51 < russavia> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxkqlzax4-k 09:51 < Moe_Epsilon> then why not rename it to surveillence balloon in Kabul or something 09:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> non-notable nipple cruft 09:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> plane-porn! 09:51 < SoapX> Cyber, you own the SUL and the only way you could theoretically lose it is if the zero edit hiwiki user of the same name becomes a bureaucrat or checkuser before the change occurs. MBisanz talk 12:19, 2 May 2013 (UTC) 09:51 * ToAruShiroiNeko pretends to be outraged 09:51 < mareklug> the tags are revealing on flickr: afghanistan jalalagood kabul nipple military eye in the sk ysurveilance 09:51 < russavia> seems to be made by Lockheed Martin 09:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Lockheed Martin? And not Playboy magazine? 09:52 < MBisanz> hi SoapX 09:52 < mareklug> russavia yes, there is a video on youtube i saw, maybe even you showed it to me. it is their tethered early warning system for lookdown shootdown 09:52 -!- Ushau97 [~Ushau97@wikimedia/Ushau97] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:52 < Moe_Epsilon> MBisanz: I made http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FORMER pretty :p 09:53 < MBisanz> i saw 09:53 < MBisanz> it looks awesome 09:53 < Moe_Epsilon> :D 09:53 * MBisanz contemplates how to reward Moe_Epsilon 09:53 < mareklug> MBisanz send him a case of Moosehead 09:53 < Pharos> if your only goal in life is to have that photo on a WP article, then first find out the name of the blimp 09:53 < Moe_Epsilon> Moosehead? 09:53 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moosehead 09:53 < Pharos> then write an article on the blimp model typew 09:53 < Bradford> Moe_Epsilon: hi 09:53 < mareklug> Moe_Epsilon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moosehead_Brewery 09:53 < Bradford> :-* 09:54 < russavia> seemsto be the same this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MarfaTX.jpg 09:54 < Pharos> should the former admins page be more funereal? 09:54 < mareklug> russavia so you have not seen the video? 09:54 < Moe_Epsilon> Pharos, why? lol 09:54 < Bradford> -__- 09:54 < russavia> i gave link above to video 09:55 < mareklug> Pharos you mean, make the lines in the table black and 18 points thick? 09:55 < Pharos> yes 09:55 < darev> cu 09:55 -!- darev [~darev@p54AABE25.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 09:55 < Pharos> it would be more appropriate 09:55 < Pharos> we mourn their bits 09:56 < russavia> pharos: HELLO what do you think i am trying to do 09:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> boston bombers were trying to aim for 4th of july bombig? 09:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you are celebrating it wrong! 09:56 < Moe_Epsilon> lol we mourn their bits? I just wanted something fancy for the page 09:56 < Moe_Epsilon> :p 09:56 < Pharos> ToAruShiroiNeko: i have a theory about the boston bombers 09:56 < mareklug> russavia then it is not exactly the video I saw. The thing I saw has these blimps in an array, teathered, and they look down on incoming balistinc and cruise missles that hug the terrain 09:56 < Pharos> he was primarily opposed to civic holidays 09:57 < SoapX> aww cute cuddly terrain 09:57 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:57 < Bradford> Moe_Epsilon: ò_ó 09:57 < russavia> mareklug -- i think youare talking of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tethered_Aerostat_Radar_System 09:57 < Moe_Epsilon> Bradford: hello 09:57 < Pharos> he was really against thankgiving turkeys too 09:57 < Pharos> this is actually true 09:57 < Bradford> ñ_ñ 09:57 < russavia> balloons are not my thing so i have no idea 09:57 < Pharos> he yelled at the preacher in his mosque about thamksgiving turkeys 09:58 -!- blizarre [blizarre@87.69.13.196.cable.012.net.il] has quit [] 09:58 < Pharos> i don't think it's a coincidence that the marathon thing was also massachusetts "pariot day" 09:59 < mareklug> russavia nope, that one is dead project. I think it may be this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EL/M-2083 10:00 < Pharos> also, it is a mistake to name your son "Tamerlane" 10:00 < Pharos> take note, mothers 10:00 < Pharos> "Genghis" is also problematic 10:00 < mareklug> Pharos that is a great name for a central asian boy 10:01 < Pharos> except if he takes the pillaging and destruction thing too literally 10:02 < Pharos> they say tamerlane did more to destroy islamic civilization than any Mongol 10:02 < russavia> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/world/asia/in-afghanistan-spy-balloons-now-part-of-landscape.html?pagewanted=all -- "often when crews bring the balloons down, for maintenance or to protect them from storms, says Eddy Hogan, who manages the aerostats, they find bullet holes all over, attesting to the balloons’ role as an object of resentment." -- but still nothing about who makes it 10:03 -!- greenrosetta [~greenrose@unaffiliated/greenrosetta] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:03 < mareklug> "Timur's armies were feared[16][17] Scholars estimate that his military campaigns caused the deaths of 17 million people, amounting to about 5% of the world population.[18][19]" heh. peanuts. Both Stalin and Mr. Genghis had over 30 million each. 10:03 < Pharos> but not in terms of %! 10:04 < Pharos> well, for Stalin 10:04 < SoapX> i never heard of Tmur 10:04 < mareklug> Genghis came br tamerlane, so his percentage if anything is way higher 10:04 < Pharos> Tamerlane attacked more muslims, tho 10:04 < SoapX> Tamerlane doesnt sound like a very scary name 10:04 < Pharos> so the islamic civilization thing stands 10:04 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur SoapX that's cuz some wikipedians are more anal about name-parking than others. 10:05 < Pharos> it's a scary name if you ever met him 10:05 < Pharos> there is a quran in the Met museum in NYC handrwritten by Tamerlane's grandson 10:06 < Pharos> it's amazing how you can tame these guys 10:06 < SoapX> it says he was shot in the knee by an arrow as a child and gained the nickname "Tammer the Lame" 10:06 < SoapX> hence Tamerlane 10:06 < Pharos> yes 10:06 < russavia> Семён is a scarier name 10:07 < Pharos> ind-european thing there 10:08 -!- TBloemink [~TB@wikimedia/tbloemink] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:09 < SoapX> hi TB 10:10 < mareklug> Moe_Epsilon I am sure they sell it in Jax. Here you can get it 12 x 12 oz bottles for about 11. It's exceptional beer for the price. 10:10 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@wikipedia/Juxo] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dhaka collapse deaths rise above 500 10:11 < Moe_Epsilon> o: 10:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> are we amining for an internet meme? 10:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they are still pulling decomposing bodies from the rubble 10:11 -!- mutley89 [~mutley89@host86-150-204-63.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:11 < Moe_Epsilon> MBisanz: get me that Moosehead beer, for the life I've wasted updating WP:FORMER xD 10:11 -!- ty [ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: wat] 10:11 < MBisanz> haha, when you come visit in dc, i will 10:12 < Moe_Epsilon> yay 10:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> MBisanz its good to be in DC? 10:13 < MBisanz> yes 10:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> do you get free obama/nra handouts of guns? :p 10:14 -!- greenrosetta [~greenrose@unaffiliated/greenrosetta] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:15 -!- hackerGBQ [~kniferSWB@2.51.74.35] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:17 < mareklug> Moe_Epsilontake a look a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live%20Tyler. For that matter, everybody do. This guy is getting on my nerves. 10:17 < mareklug> also talk page 10:17 < SoapX> no such page 10:17 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liv%20Tyler 10:17 < Pharos> obama gives out everything for free EXCEPT guns 10:18 < Pharos> this is in conspiracy world 10:18 < Moe_Epsilon> why is she getting on your nerves, mareklug? 10:18 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user%3AOz%20Steps is geting on my nerves 10:19 < Moe_Epsilon> oh, I thought you meant Liv Tyler was getting on your nerves.. 10:19 < mareklug> no, I luv Lyv Tyler. 10:20 < SoapX> and you want that picture of her breasts to be right on top 10:20 < SoapX> instead of the ugly one 10:20 < SoapX> that guy's probably not a native English speaker 10:21 < Moe_Epsilon> says en-N on his userpage 10:21 < mareklug> no, I want the clear, well-lit picture of her as a young beautiful actress in her prime to be there. Just like we have Audrey Hepburn in her prime in her infobox. and the fucker keeps changing infobox pix in lots of places to the absolutely most recent, regardless of quality. besides, the ugly picture is down in the article. 10:22 < MBisanz> ToAruShiroiNeko no, sadly 10:22 < mareklug> SoapX so are you gonna help or not? 10:22 < SoapX> probably not 10:22 < mareklug> Moe_Epsilon and you? 10:23 -!- hackerGBQ [~kniferSWB@2.51.74.35] has left #wikipedia-en ["Silentium est aureum"] 10:23 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [Quit: wctaiwan] 10:23 < Moe_Epsilon> I'll comment on the talk page 10:23 -!- Garnig [betacomman@unaffiliated/garnig] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:25 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:25 < legoktm> wtf 10:25 < legoktm> i just got rickrolled 10:25 < legoktm> in the dining hall 10:25 < Pharos> beautiful actresses revert to their prime upon their deaths 10:26 < Pharos> this is the iron law of wikipedia 10:26 < Pharos> this applies to nonbeautiful nonactresses as well 10:27 < Pharos> it is the Ceremony of The Reversion Of Youth 10:27 < mareklug> Pharos for the love of Lyv, she is a New Yorker. Come to her defence! 10:27 -!- Hahc21 [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:27 -!- Kingpin13 [~Kingpin13@Wikipedia/Kingpin13] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:27 < Pharos> oh, you didn't mention that 10:27 < Pharos> then of course i am biased 10:27 < Pharos> it is my homeland 10:28 < mareklug> "Tyler was born Liv Rundgren[1] at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York.[2] She is the first-born daughter of Bebe Buell, a model, singer, and former Playboy Playmate (Miss November 1974), and Steven Tyler, the lead singer of Aerosmith.[3] Her mother named her after Norwegian actress, Liv Ullmann, after seeing Ullmann on the cover of the March 5, 1977 issue of TV Guide.[2][4] She is of Italian, German, Polish, and English ancestry on her 10:28 < mareklug> father's side[5] and German ancestry on her mother's side.[6] " 10:28 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28 < Pharos> for the love of Lyviv, it is true! 10:28 < Pharos> or perhaps you prefer Lvov! 10:29 -!- Garnig [betacomman@unaffiliated/garnig] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:29 < mareklug> I actually favor Lwów, as it is a Polish city and that is its Polish name. It means CIty of LIons or LIonville 10:30 -!- Maryana [~Maryana@wikipedia/Accedie] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:31 < Pharos> of course! 10:31 < Pharos> "Lvov" is semipolish, though? 10:31 < Pharos> that name 10:31 < SoapX> well if you put the two v's together it makes a w 10:31 < Pharos> it's just spelled correctly 10:31 < mareklug> it strikes me as Englished Polish 10:32 < Pharos> which it is 10:32 < mareklug> polish w sounds like a v 10:32 < mareklug> ó sounds like ou in soup 10:33 < mareklug> ok Pharos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Liv_Tyler#New_Image your turn. Yes, I am obviously canvassing. 10:33 < Pharos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_European_cities_in_different_languages:_I%E2%80%93L#Lviv 10:33 < mareklug> Lemberg always struck me as a very fancy version 10:34 < mareklug> Stanisław Lem the SF writer and philosophy esseyist is from Lwów/Lemberg 10:34 < mareklug> was, as he is deceased 10:34 < Pharos> ah, i didn't know 10:34 < Pharos> that he was from there 10:35 < Pharos> my greatest experience with him is watching the original Solaris :P 10:35 < Pharos> though i imagine i would like his books 10:36 < mareklug> you would be tickled by The Cyberiad: Fables of Robots 10:36 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cyberiad 10:36 -!- Interim [41af89e1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.175.137.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:36 < mareklug> if you have a kindle or iPad, it's available as an audiobook and/or digitial thingee 10:37 -!- Qcoder00 [~chatzilla@gfarlie-adsl.demon.co.uk] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:37 < mareklug> the translation by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael%20Kandel is amazingly good, considering how many neologisms the translator had to invent. 10:37 < Pharos> I have the Brooklyn Public Library! 10:38 < russavia> mareklug! It's LVOV -- L-V-O-V! 10:38 < mareklug> Pharos and they even loan digital stuff 10:38 < Pharos> yes they do 10:38 < mareklug> russavia you are so trolling. There is not a more Polish city that was made nonpolish by Stalin. 10:38 < Pharos> wikipedia has taught me that the proper name for this city ideologically for me is Lemberik 10:38 < SoapX> are we seriously starting a real argument ove rhtis 10:38 < Pharos> long live the yiddish empire! 10:38 < mareklug> and they purposefully moved the fucking border 42 km to the west to exclude it. 10:38 < russavia> so how's Wilno these days? 10:39 < mareklug> there are 20k polish speakers in Wilno 10:39 < russavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Liv_Tyler#New_Image -- you are kidding me? they are horrible photos 10:39 < mareklug> and it is a bit further out. 10:39 < Pharos> Lemberik FTW 10:39 < Pharos> it's like Lemberg, but less nazi connotations ;) 10:40 * AaronSchulz looks at the June08 one 10:40 < russavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Liv_Tyler_4,_2012.jpg looks like it's a mugshot 10:40 < mareklug> I am going to be blocked for 3RR over this, I know. 10:40 < russavia> mareklug -- do we have one of her in a bikini? 10:40 < mareklug> no, the blue toga is the best we have and had since 2008 10:41 < Pharos> where is David Shankbone when you need him? 10:41 < mareklug> who is Mr Shankbone? 10:42 < russavia> ok here's an idea 10:42 < russavia> who has OTRS access and is in NYC? 10:42 < mareklug> is she there now? 10:42 < SoapX> how many times have you been blocked before, marek ? 10:42 < SoapX> just curious 10:42 -!- Ushau97 [~Ushau97@wikimedia/Ushau97] has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:42 < SoapX> once 10:43 < Pharos> Mr Shankbone is the NYC king of celebrity wikiphotos 10:43 < SoapX> is he still editing WP? 10:43 < SoapX> I havent seen him in a long time 10:43 < mareklug> once, and it was accidental. I fixed Prishtina spelling in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo and I thought I was doing the right thing, and this was an arbcom-sanctioned article and Zscout370 blocked me for edit warring for 24 hours 10:43 < SoapX> yeah there should be editnotices on arbcom sanctioned articles imo 10:43 < Pharos> i have his phone number somewhere for celebrity emergencies :P 10:43 < SoapX> its easy to fall intoa trap 10:43 < russavia> http://retna.com/ximagi/search.php?u=&people%5B%5D=liv+tyler&full%5B%5D=&sort=date&date_created_before=&date_created_after=&headline%5B%5D=&city=&state=&country=&source=&object=&byline=&objects%5B%5D=&caption%5B%5D= 10:44 -!- Captain-n00dle [~Cptn-n00d@wikipedia/Captain-n00dle] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:44 < russavia> http://retna.com/ximagi/search.php?u=&people%5B%5D=liv+tyler&full%5B%5D=&sort=date&date_created_before=&date_created_after=&headline%5B%5D=&city=&state=&country=&source=&object=&byline=&objects%5B%5D=&caption%5B%5D=#page=2&view=3 would be a great photo 10:44 < SoapX> eg 10:44 < SoapX> there is a page with "The Arbitration Committee has permitted Wikipedia administrators to impose discretionary sanctions on any editor editing this page or associated pages. Discretionary sanctions can be used against an editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process." 10:44 < SoapX> on the talk page 10:45 < SoapX> but no edit notice 10:45 < russavia> if anyone with OTRS access wants to do something about it 2011090810017136 is the ticket number 10:45 < SoapX> is that really optimal? 10:45 < mareklug> russavia nice, but the blue toga is superior to every one of those 10:45 -!- Moe_Epsilon is now known as SlowLizard 10:45 -!- SlowLizard is now known as Moe_Epsilon 10:45 < russavia> mareklug -- http://retna.com/ximagi/search.php?u=&people%5B%5D=liv+tyler&full%5B%5D=&sort=date&date_created_before=&date_created_after=&headline%5B%5D=&city=&state=&country=&source=&object=&byline=&objects%5B%5D=&caption%5B%5D=#page=2&view=12 10:45 -!- ChrisGualtieri [ae3ebae3@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:46 < mareklug> russavia I would upload that. 10:46 < russavia> do you have OTRS access mareklug? 10:46 < mareklug> no, i think white cat does 10:46 < mareklug> odder does 10:47 * Pharos is block-free since forever 10:47 < Pharos> i am the least controversial person on Wikipedia 10:47 < SoapX> i was blocked in 2010 by accident 10:50 * Isarra stalks Pharos. 10:50 * Pharos hidea 10:50 * FastLizard4 has never been blocked 10:51 < Pharos> was I ever blocked? 10:51 < Pharos> i don't ever remember for sure 10:51 < FastLizard4> Though because I said that some admin will now probably block me for a yottasecond 10:51 < russavia> here mareklug -- your favourite -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellasportfolio/8228776388/in/photostream 10:51 < Pharos> if i was, it would have been accidentally self-blocking :P 10:52 < FastLizard4> Pharos: Nope, you has an empty block log 10:52 * FastLizard4 almost wrote that as "empty blog lock" 10:52 < Pharos> this makes me valedictorian 10:52 < Moe_Epsilon> last time I was blocked, I was offline, I was not pleased when I came back to see an hour long block when I wasn't there. 10:53 < FastLizard4> Moe_Epsilon: What was the block for? 10:53 < Pharos> inactivity! 10:53 < FastLizard4> o_o 10:53 < Pharos> that was a tough regime 10:53 < Moe_Epsilon> 08:00, June 26, 2007 Alkivar (talk | contribs) blocked Moe Epsilon (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 1 hour (incivility, troll baiting. yes regardless of what you may think, you do have to be nice,) 10:54 < FastLizard4> Wait what? 10:54 < russavia> the last time i was blocked....oops.. 10:54 < FastLizard4> But why 10:54 -!- ChrisGualtieri [ae3ebae3@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:54 < SoapX> ahh Alkivar 10:54 < Moe_Epsilon> I guess I wasn't playing nice 10:54 < Moe_Epsilon> lol 10:54 < SoapX> theres a name I havent seen in a while 10:54 < SoapX> he lives near me but weve never met in person or even on Wikipedia 10:54 < moogsi> russavia: ARGH WHY 10:54 < SoapX> he retired before I really got going 10:54 < SoapX> Ive seen him on IRC though 10:55 < moogsi> lulled into a false sense of security by all those pics of Liv Tyler 10:55 < russavia> moogsi: it's a jewish conspiracy 10:55 < russavia> oh you mean the liv tyler photos:) 10:55 < Moe_Epsilon> FastLizard4: in all honesty, I asked him by e-mail why he did that and he said he was trying to appear neutral since he blocked the other party for 24 hours. Again, I was not pleased. 10:55 < Pharos> the Protocols of the Elders of Lemberik 10:55 < russavia> moogsi do you have OTRS? 10:55 < moogsi> nope 10:56 < FastLizard4> Moe_Epsilon: That makes literally no sense 10:56 < FastLizard4> You don't block someone to "appear neutral", you block if it's necessary to do so 10:56 < Moe_Epsilon> I thought so too 10:56 < Moe_Epsilon> :/ well he isn't a sysop anymore, so I'm not worried 10:56 < FastLizard4> Yeah 10:56 < FastLizard4> Still 10:56 < FastLizard4> It's the principal of the matter :P 10:56 < Moe_Epsilon> my other block was for saying "fuck" in an edit summary 10:56 < Moe_Epsilon> lol 10:56 < FastLizard4> wut 10:56 < mareklug> moogsi FastLizard4 russavia (no not you, you have a Eastern European topic ban, and she is Polish by mother in part :/ ), kindly comment on the Lyv Tyler talk page, whichever side you choose to support if any. 10:57 < mareklug> Isarra you too 10:57 < FastLizard4> 11:43, August 16, 2006 El C (talk | contribs) unblocked Moe Epsilon (talk | contribs) (user appears calm now) 10:57 < FastLizard4> 10:33, August 16, 2006 El C (talk | contribs) blocked Moe Epsilon (talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 24 hours (uncalled for incivility) 10:57 < FastLizard4> For saying "fuck" in an edit summary? 10:57 < Moe_Epsilon> yep 10:57 < Moe_Epsilon> |: 10:57 < russavia> mareklug-- that's why i can't add the kim kardashian photos :( 10:57 < FastLizard4> That seems a little uncalled for as well :\ 10:57 < moogsi> me? on a wikipedia? doesn't sound likely 10:58 < Moe_Epsilon> So yeah, my block log is tainted for almost no reason sadly 10:58 < Moe_Epsilon> :/ 10:59 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 10:59 < FastLizard4> Moe_Epsilon: Well, you're a functionary aren't you? :P 10:59 < Moe_Epsilon> I'm ACC, that's it :p 10:59 < mareklug> SoapX hey, you could just protect the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyv%20Tyler on account of edit warring. 10:59 < FastLizard4> Wait what 10:59 < FastLizard4> I could've sworn you were a functionary :P 10:59 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP%3AWrong%20version :) :) :) 11:00 < Moe_Epsilon> Nah lol I'm not even an administrator, FastLizard4 11:00 < mareklug> FastLizard4 me? I am nobody. 11:00 < FastLizard4> mareklug: No, Moe_Epsilon :P 11:00 -!- Garnig [betacomman@unaffiliated/garnig] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:00 < FastLizard4> Moe_Epsilon: I know 11:00 < FastLizard4> Moe_Epsilon: I see that now :P 11:00 < Moe_Epsilon> Moe_Epsilon 2015 11:00 < Moe_Epsilon> future canvassing 11:00 < russavia> mareklug: WP:CANVASS 11:00 < FastLizard4> Moe_Epsilon for arbcom! 11:01 < FastLizard4> :P 11:01 < Moe_Epsilon> no I meant admin 11:01 < Moe_Epsilon> XD 11:01 < mareklug> russavia anything for my Lyv 11:01 < FastLizard4> Actually, I would never nominate you for arbcom 11:01 < FastLizard4> I think that's the worst fate and punishment that can ever be exacted on someone 11:01 < FastLizard4> :P 11:01 < SoapX> do they even have "nominations" ? 11:01 < FastLizard4> SoapX: I dunno, do they 11:01 < Moe_Epsilon> :P yeah, what did I ever do to you, FastLizard4? 11:01 < mareklug> russavia canvass, wool, silk, you name it, even combed-cotton panties. 11:02 < russavia> oh, you've been browsing our infamous galleries on commons again mareklug...noicE! 11:03 < Moe_Epsilon> FastLizard4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Moe_Epsilon#Congratulations 11:03 < moogsi> i have offered my editorial opinion 11:03 < moogsi> that is all the opinion i can muster for one year 11:04 -!- tttb [~tom@host-89-242-48-32.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Fare thee well] 11:04 < moogsi> old picture more good 11:04 < moogsi> new picture not so good 11:04 < FastLizard4> Moe_Epsilon: looking 11:04 < mareklug> moogsi bless your heart. 11:04 < russavia> moogsi: opinions are like arseholes ; everyones got one and yours is no different 11:04 < SoapX> looooOOOOOOooooOOOoooOOOOOOoool 11:04 < FastLizard4> Moe_Epsilon: Nice 11:05 < Moe_Epsilon> :D 11:05 < FastLizard4> Moe_Epsilon: I also like the next thread below it :P 11:05 < Moe_Epsilon> XD 11:05 * FastLizard4 goes to fetch sustenance, brb 11:06 < moogsi> russavia: based on what? i might have a really good arsehole 11:06 < mareklug> Moe_Epsilon that is an impressive count. any of it automated? 11:06 < moogsi> HOW WOULD YOU KNOW 11:06 < russavia> moogsi: upload to commons,we'll take a look 11:06 < moogsi> it's already there, just look for the best-looking one 11:06 < Moe_Epsilon> mareklug: I would say about, out of the 122,000 edits I've made, 20,000 may be automated 11:06 < SoapX> thats huge then 11:07 < mareklug> wow 11:07 < SoapX> 100000 manual edits? 11:07 < Moe_Epsilon> some are semi-automated as well 11:08 < russavia> http://i.imgur.com/VoFCU8F.png 11:08 < Moe_Epsilon> (semi-automated, such as a program giving you something to change and you use your judgement, then let it do the edit) 11:08 < russavia> http://now.msn.com/penis-shaped-building-under-construction-in-beijing 11:08 < FastLizard4> 11:04:34 < russavia> moogsi: opinions are like arseholes ; everyones got one and yours is no different 11:08 < FastLizard4> Can I quote you on that? :P 11:08 < russavia> http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18md7xcvfkk23jpg/ku-xlarge.jpg BWAHAHAHA 11:08 -!- D1000|Away is now known as Demiurge1000 11:09 < russavia> no fastlizard4 -- it's (TM) 11:09 < FastLizard4> russavia: Okay 11:10 < FastLizard4> Send your DMCA takedown notices to memoryhole@fastlizard4.org 11:10 < FastLizard4> :D 11:10 * Moe_Epsilon spams FastLizard4 11:10 < mareklug> SoapX seriously, you should maybe look at the body of work here -- it is all reverts of infobox pictures, and always the same theme -- latest must be in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oz_Steps 11:10 -!- John_Smith [~johnsmith@ip-64-134-220-65.public.wayport.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:10 < FastLizard4> Spam that address all you want, it's called "memoryhole" for a reason :P 11:10 -!- TheChance [~thechance@c-76-115-162-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:11 < Moe_Epsilon> FastLizard4: how about pictures of spam, then? 11:11 -!- bluebot88 [~bluebot@32.97.110.53] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:11 -!- bluebot88 [~bluebot@32.97.110.53] has left #wikipedia-en [] 11:11 < Moe_Epsilon> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Spam_with_cans.jpeg/220px-Spam_with_cans.jpeg 11:11 < russavia> sorry for posting a link to a penis-shaped building here -- it's more of a common thing 11:11 * FastLizard4 takes a screenshot of a Viagra spam email in Thunderbird and emails the screenshot to Moe_Epsilon 11:11 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:11 < mareklug> FastLizard4 there is no more viagra spam. 11:12 < FastLizard4> mareklug: Lies 11:12 < FastLizard4> I got one earlier today, already nuked it though 11:12 < mareklug> seriously. a few months ago microsoft or someone clamped down on it. 11:12 < Moe_Epsilon> FastLizard4: i get plenty of penis enhancement spam e-mails as it is -_- 11:12 < mareklug> i never get any penis-related spam anymore. 11:12 < Moe_Epsilon> that's because I get all of it 11:12 < Moe_Epsilon> |: 11:12 < FastLizard4> heh 11:13 < mareklug> it is all social services phishing now 11:13 < Moe_Epsilon> I don't open my e-mail for a day and 1,200 new e-mails for me 11:13 < moogsi> everyone's dick is so huge now, there's no market for it 11:13 < FastLizard4> http://fastlizard4.org/~fastlizard4/lolspam <-- some of the best spam emails I've ever received, none of it penis enhancement :P 11:13 < moogsi> there's an overall glut of virility 11:14 < FastLizard4> http://fastlizard4.org/~fastlizard4/lolspam/YOU_HAVE_BEEN_CHOSEN_GOD._(modified_to_fit_smaller_screens).txt might be my absolute favorite 11:14 < FastLizard4> :P 11:14 < moogsi> can you imagine how fucking horrific the world would be if any of that MAKE YOUR DICK HUGE stuff actually worked 11:14 < Moe_Epsilon> I just clicked that one lol 11:14 < moogsi> dread to think about it 11:15 < moogsi> Good day, 11:15 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:15 < moogsi> I am Mr. Tim J W Tookey 11:15 -!- Bradford is now known as Bradford|War3 11:15 -!- SoapX is now known as {soap|bed} 11:16 < {soap|bed}> i never get penis spam either 11:16 < moogsi> haha the "chosen by god" one is epic 11:16 < FastLizard4> heh 11:16 < FastLizard4> moogsi: ikr 11:16 < mareklug> why is it always "chosen by god" and never "god by choice" 11:17 < {soap|bed}> http://spamusement.com/ was funny back in 2006-7 but they havent really been updating lately 11:18 < moogsi> mareklug: because as long as God exists, choice is irrelevant? 11:18 < mareklug> I am a proponent of free wheel 11:19 < FastLizard4> http://xkcd.com/462/ 11:19 < FastLizard4> :P 11:19 < Moe_Epsilon> xD 11:19 < moogsi> mareklug: i don't think God really is 11:20 < moogsi> just enough free will to damn yourself 11:20 < moogsi> because if you didn't have any free will then it wouldn't be your fault 11:20 < mareklug> moogsi no, clearly God really is not. In the words of the Sugarcubes, "Deus Does Not Exist" 11:20 < moogsi> unless you're Catholic in which case it's automatically your fault via original sin 11:20 < mareklug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2sJzec2wmw 11:21 < moogsi> mareklug: i don't think God really is [a proponent of free will] 11:21 < moogsi> *wheel 11:21 < mareklug> wheel 11:21 < mareklug> as in fortuna, or system administrator with all privs. :) 11:22 -!- Bradford|War3 is now known as Bradford|TV 11:23 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@50-46-212-82.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:23 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@50-46-212-82.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Changing host] 11:23 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:23 -!- Bradford|TV [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:24 < Moe_Epsilon> FastLizard4: ever seen 419eater story about the Nigerian scammers? 11:24 < FastLizard4> Moe_Epsilon: Yeah 11:24 < FastLizard4> I lol'd :P 11:24 -!- Bradford|TV [kvirc@181-182-66-237.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:24 < Moe_Epsilon> heh :p 11:24 -!- John_Smith [~johnsmith@ip-64-134-220-65.public.wayport.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 11:24 < Moe_Epsilon> I particularly like the sketch they performed 11:25 -!- Bradford|TV is now known as Bradford 11:26 -!- Bradford [kvirc@181-182-66-237.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has quit [Changing host] 11:26 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:26 -!- Bradford is now known as Bradford|TV 11:27 < SuicidalZerg> My first email account has, like, several thousand spam emails 11:28 < SuicidalZerg> I'm also getting some on my secondary comcast one, lol 11:28 < mareklug> but none of them are viagra stuff 11:28 < moogsi> i still feel like doing a dramatic reading of that email from Bishop David Oyedekpo PHD, RS, Dip TH. 11:28 < SuicidalZerg> They're persistent. They send the same message 5 times in a row 11:29 -!- Bradford|TV is now known as anderson 11:29 < SuicidalZerg> As if that's gonna get me to read it 11:29 < moogsi> well the principle is volume 11:29 < {soap|bed}> moogsi do it 11:29 < moogsi> throw enough poop and you're bound to hit some stupid people 11:30 < Moe_Epsilon> just checked my e-mail, all my spam e-mail is dated as coming from the year 2050 or something written in chinese 11:30 < ChrisGualtieri> I feel so dirty tagging these articles x-x 11:30 < Moe_Epsilon> most odd 11:30 < moogsi> i'll save it for later, my mic is kinda busted 11:30 -!- John_Smith [~johnsmith@ip-64-134-220-65.public.wayport.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:31 < moogsi> speaking of which, what kind of person does spoken wikipedia? like, is it useful in any way? 11:31 < ChrisGualtieri> How does one make/use a project watchlist? 11:32 < moogsi> i have a silly accent and some vocal training, and an inflated sense of my own worth, is that enough? 11:35 -!- zscout370 [~zscout370@108-247-186-200.lightspeed.fyvlar.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:35 -!- zscout370 [~zscout370@108-247-186-200.lightspeed.fyvlar.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 11:35 -!- zscout370 [~zscout370@wikipedia/Zscout370] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:37 < mareklug> how do I globally change my prefs on every wikipedia to English-language? it took forever to hunt it down in arabic :) 11:37 -!- {soap|bed} [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has quit [Quit: bed] 11:39 < Qcoder00> mmogsi: Spoken Wikipedia is useful to people that have limited vision 11:40 < Qcoder00> I just wish someone would start doing Spoken Wikisource ;) 11:40 < Qcoder00> (Librivox does a lot of things... but...) 11:40 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:41 < mareklug> وهذا هو أفضل صورة لدينا على كومنز، وأنها كانت على أفضل صورة كان علينا منذ عام 2008. 11:42 -!- TBloemink [~TB@wikimedia/tbloemink] has quit [Quit: So flee youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Operator from a pure heart.] 11:43 < Isarra> We're all going to die. 11:43 < mareklug> yeah, but from old age. 11:44 < Moe_Epsilon> well not all of us 11:44 < Moe_Epsilon> >_> 11:44 < Moe_Epsilon> <_< 11:44 < Isarra> Many, probably. 11:44 < Isarra> I'll probably get trampled by a pack of muskoxen, though. 11:46 < russavia> the FBI will be right with you mareklug 11:46 < mareklug> Moe_Epsilon what's arz? azeri? 11:47 < russavia> arz is egyptian arabic 11:47 < russavia> ? 11:47 < mareklug> russavia all your base are belong to us. that includes Bishkek, fucker. 11:47 < mareklug> fuck. how do I generate Egyptian arabic 11:47 < Moe_Epsilon> yes, egyptian arabix 11:47 < Moe_Epsilon> arabic* 11:47 < russavia> oh, you still have aircraft left there, cockbreathe? 11:47 < SuicidalZerg> mareklug, what time is it where you live? O_o 11:47 < mareklug> cockbreath, I think. save the e for eliza. 11:48 < mareklug> no time to look back. 11:48 < mareklug> 1:48 pm 11:48 < SuicidalZerg> oh 11:48 < SuicidalZerg> So you must have already went to sleep and woken up :p 11:50 -!- anderson is now known as Bradford 11:50 -!- Bradford is now known as anderson 11:52 < moogsi> mareklug: i would use the brain of someone who speaks egyptian arabic 11:52 < moogsi> failing that, make it up and hope no-one notices 11:54 < mareklug> I did one better. I availed myself of both Persian and Arabic in google.translate.com to figure out what was what and I snippet it to be only the part that said Lyv Tyler and added the requsite 2008 in place of 2012 which uses our …arabic numerals. :) 11:54 < mareklug> SuicidalZerg si 11:55 < moogsi> ohhh... well it beats stealing someone's brain i guess 11:55 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 11:55 < moogsi> or even, asking the person with the brain still attached 11:57 < Demiurge1000> I see Jimbo's talk page is having one of those days.... User talk:Jimbo Wales; 17:04 . . (+338) . . Wnt (talk | contribs) (No, this is right - that gangrene affects genitalia Undid revision 553371267 by Delicious carbuncle (talk)) [rollback] 11:57 < moogsi> ahahaah 11:58 < Pharos> count be out of all gangrened genitalia RfCs 11:58 -!- Jetro [~rimo@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:58 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has quit [] 11:59 -!- Maryana is now known as Maryana_lunch 12:00 < moogsi> i hope the argument escalates to the point that it needs to be illustrated 12:00 < zscout370> moogsi: since it is about the Commons, it usually is 12:00 * moogsi flips through Commons' "G" cabinet 12:00 < Qcoder00> moogsi: I'm sure there is contextually appropriate image in a medical journal... 12:00 < mareklug> with Lyv Tyler's pictures! 12:00 < moogsi> gangrene.... gangrene.... genitals... 12:00 < zscout370> Qcoder00: anything DC talks about is Commons related and always had an associated picture with it (either still up or hidden away) 12:01 < ChrisGualtieri> lol 12:01 < ChrisGualtieri> What did they do link the image to Jimbo's page? 12:01 < zscout370> no, the image is linked (or discussed) on a blog, then that blog is linked on Jimbo's talk page 12:01 -!- Fluffernutter is now known as Fluff|away 12:02 < moogsi> is this... is this one big troll? 12:02 < moogsi> has DC gone completely over my head 12:02 < moogsi> *i am not reading Jimbo's talk page but that sounds amazing 12:03 -!- Writ_Keeper [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Writ-Keeper] has left #wikipedia-en [] 12:03 < moogsi> i can't read it any more cos i don't want to shatter the illusion that there's anyone else at Commons except ~3 people DC doesn't like 12:03 < zscout370> no idea and really dgaf at this point 12:03 * zscout370 Commons admin 12:03 < Qcoder00> Is DC pro or anti explicit images at Commons? 12:03 < zscout370> anti 12:03 -!- James_F is now known as James_F|Away 12:04 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:04 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 12:04 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:04 < Qcoder00> But there is a place for 'contextually' appropriate medical images from appropriate sources? 12:04 < zscout370> but a lot seems to be images of questionable legality, but I really don't care at this point. I just stick to my corner of the Commons. 12:05 < moogsi> zscout370: did you know that you are a flesh-eating ghoul lording over an army of morally bereft anarchists? 12:05 < mareklug> what is the 3rr warning template? 12:05 < Qcoder00> ROFL 12:05 < zscout370> moogsi: I been called worse 12:05 < moogsi> also you're a paedo 12:06 < moogsi> *probably 12:06 < zscout370> I been called that, but if you can dig back to 2007 or 2008, I am hardly that lol 12:06 < zscout370> I am usually the one banning the pedos 12:06 -!- John_Smith [~johnsmith@ip-64-134-220-65.public.wayport.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 12:07 < moogsi> i just love how it's all COMMONS IS BROKEN SOMETHING MUST BE DONE, and the last thing any of those people has done is say anything at Commons 12:07 < moogsi> they just take one aspect and then go "Commons is x", "Commons administration is x" 12:07 < zscout370> some do not want to go, some have been removed before 12:07 < moogsi> thought i guess Jimbo kicked it off with "Commons is broken", so... 12:07 < Qcoder00> Zscout370: You've been active in removing 'abusers' ? 12:08 < Qcoder00> Zscout370: Award yourself a barnstar :) 12:08 < zscout370> Qcoder00: in the past, but lately, I just been in my hole in the wall or making pizzas for about 50-60 hours a week. Also I design barnstars, so why I need to award one to myself lol 12:09 < Moe_Epsilon> design the zscout barnstar, because f_ck you, that's why 12:10 < Qcoder00> Do we have a banrstar for 'Community Protection Award' ? 12:10 < Moe_Epsilon> and the only one who gets it is you 12:10 < Moe_Epsilon> :p 12:10 < zscout370> Qcoder00: defender of the wiki 12:10 < anderson> Moe_Epsilon: te amo *.* 12:10 < Qcoder00> As in a barnstar to give to people who have excelled in protecting the community from crime and illegal stuff specfically? 12:11 < zscout370> yes 12:11 < Moe_Epsilon> o-o 12:11 * Qcoder00 ponders if there is a real world award for law enforcement operations that could be adapted... 12:11 < anderson> XD 12:12 < NotASpy> Qcoder00: Queen's Police Medal. 12:12 < anderson> Moe_Epsilon: my baby :-* 12:12 < zscout370> but really is the Commons broken? I do not believe so. We are not perfect, but the system isn't broken. We are not the Turkish Wikipedia yet, so we still got a good thing going. Just we need more eyes with our ever growing images and tools to cause uploads. 12:13 -!- Elduen [~elduen@unaffiliated/andorin] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:14 < moogsi> no, the bits of Commons that people like to moan about are not ideal, no-one likes to talk about how good Commons is because it's the wikimedia buttmonkey 12:14 < zscout370> I'm still trying to go through my corner of the Commons and finding copyvios from 2009, things that do not meet standards and it is a long process 12:15 < zscout370> I thought Wikispecies or Wikiversity was the buttmonkey 12:15 < moogsi> ok, king of the buttmonkeys 12:16 < zscout370> and why, in your view, we are the buttmonkey? 12:16 -!- anderson is now known as Bradford 12:16 < moogsi> what surprises me is that everyone seems shocked that you can give no moral guidelines to a community and expect a fully developed ethical code to emerge 12:16 -!- Bradford is now known as anderson 12:17 < moogsi> none of the other projects need such a code, and WMF seems surpirsed that the same method for everything else doesn't work at Commons 12:17 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:17 < moogsi> there are 2 outcomes without moral guidance, there is the highest level of censorship, or the lowest 12:17 < moogsi> working towards the middle from either of those positions is extremely difficult 12:18 < moogsi> there's no way that people can be spontaneously ethically moderate 12:18 < Qcoder00> Wikiversity is the as^H^H community mental health support unit 12:18 < Qcoder00> XD 12:19 < zscout370> and with the Commons being the main mulch-lingual project, that was what happened. Most Wikipediae are language based, and also cultural based so there was less issues of that (except on big projects like en, the flagship). But I do think we are trying to get a handle on things, but I think what should have happened is we should have got our ducks in a row before we started to kill local uploads. 12:20 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:20 < moogsi> yeah, that and MediaWiki is entirely the wrong software to be using 12:21 < moogsi> but really, i think it's the buttmonkey because it serves everything else... no-one else is interested until there is something they don't like 12:21 < zscout370> I do not personally blame the software, but if there was a way I could, perhaps search for files using a certain extension, it would make my life easier 12:21 < NotASpy> Commons needs a community, it's always felt a bit, I dunno, cold and uninvolving. 12:21 < legoktm> zscout370: thats pretty easy using the db.... 12:21 < zscout370> NotASpy: that is true, I must admit 12:21 < moogsi> NotASpy: there aren't enough people 12:22 < moogsi> whenever there is a meta-discussion which is even tangentially related to a problem with scope or ethics, everyone floods in from other projects to say NO THIS IS CENSORSHIP, prevents any discussion or progress, and then fucks off again 12:24 < moogsi> which is why Commons seems amoral i think... actually getting any policy in place that would require people to remove material based on anything other than the letter of the law is very tiring 12:24 < moogsi> and of course if you are using only the law as guidance then you will come off as baby-eating rapists 12:26 < zscout370> and that is even in doubt; what laws do we use. While we try and use both US and country of origin laws (if not in the US) and that is even in doubt a lot of times. 12:26 < mareklug> moogsi I am so proud of myself. I wrote up a cutline in Welsh, and edit summary 12:26 < moogsi> mareklug: nice :) 12:27 < mareklug> and now Czech 12:27 < mattbuck> baby-eating rapists are the best kind of rapists 12:28 < zscout370> moogsi: because when US copyright law became worse, people were looking to ignore it and it was like "wha?" 12:28 < moogsi> like you say, ducks in a row... the project mission could have been clearer 12:28 < moogsi> it's way too ambitious for the amount of people actually interested in working on it 12:29 < zscout370> the mission is clear, but to achieve that mission and the rules of engagement wasn't 12:29 < zscout370> (I'm sounding like my dad now) 12:29 < mareklug> and Danish 12:29 < mareklug> which wiki is diq? 12:30 < moogsi> i mean clearer to the people setting it out... "we need to respect the law in the country of origin and the US" "OK COOL that sounds very freeing" "YEAH FREEDOM" 12:30 < moogsi> implementation-wise it's a complete clusterfuck 12:30 < moogsi> what's one level above a clusterfuck? 12:31 < moogsi> diq = Zazaki 12:31 < zscout370> zazaki 12:31 < mattbuck> uhm 12:31 < mattbuck> a congress 12:31 < zscout370> a disaster 12:32 < mareklug> and Greek 12:32 < mareklug> what is "Zazaki"? 12:32 < moogsi> Zazaki, also called Zaza, Kirmanjki, Kirdki and Dimli, is an Indo-European language spoken primarily in eastern Turkey 12:33 < Pharos> indo-european is overdone 12:33 * moogsi starts a new language family 12:34 < Pharos> i suggest basqueopean 12:35 < moogsi> heh, basque is like PFF INDO-WHATEVER 12:36 < moogsi> BUNCH OF FOLLOWERS 12:36 < mareklug> well, they removed their LIv bio. must not been ency in them parts. 12:42 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:43 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:45 -!- Guest62090 is now known as Computron_ 12:48 < Moe_Epsilon> MBisanz: it has been past 24 hours since Bratsche requested re-sysop, btw 12:48 < MBisanz> Moe_Epsilon: oh, thanks for the heads 12:48 * MBisanz goes tor ead 12:49 < legoktm> o.O 12:49 < legoktm> such an inefficient crat! 12:50 * Moe_Epsilon trouts legoktm 12:50 < Moe_Epsilon> :P 12:50 -!- James_F|Away is now known as James_F 12:50 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:52 < MBisanz> done 12:52 * Moe_Epsilon updates FORMER 12:53 * MBisanz updated RESYSOPs 12:53 -!- kkthecoder [~kk@101.210.182.159] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:54 * mattbuck refuses to update ACRONYM 12:55 -!- Jetro [~rimo@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:58 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:58 * FastLizard4 promotes Moe_Epsilon to Moe_Epsilon 12:59 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:59 < Moe_Epsilon> I'm promoted to myself? 12:59 < FastLizard4> Yes 12:59 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:59 < Moe_Epsilon> I thought I already was a Moe_Epsilon :p 12:59 < FastLizard4> The singularity should form around you in about a minute 13:00 < moogsi> you are now... MOE_ZETA 13:00 -!- woezel [~MaGix@190.105.108.239] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:00 < moogsi> no wait... MOE_DELTA 13:00 < moogsi> that's a promotion 13:00 < FastLizard4> No 13:00 -!- woezel [~MaGix@190.105.108.239] has quit [Client Quit] 13:00 < FastLizard4> MOE_ALPHA 13:00 < Moe_Epsilon> well actually the next upgrade would be delta, right? 13:00 -!- thedj [~pjotr@rev-131-102.virtu.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:00 -!- thedj [~pjotr@rev-131-102.virtu.nl] has quit [Changing host] 13:00 -!- thedj [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:00 < Moe_Epsilon> :p 13:00 < moogsi> well MOE_DELTA is one more step towards MOE_ALPHA 13:00 < FastLizard4> Fine 13:01 < FastLizard4> We'll say MOE_GAMMA and call it a compromise? 13:01 < moogsi> reminds me of Brave New World 13:01 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:01 * Moe_Epsilon magially transforms 13:01 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has quit [Quit: While there's life, there's hope.] 13:01 -!- Moe_Epsilon is now known as Moe_Gamma 13:01 < Moe_Gamma> magically* 13:01 -!- FastLizard4 is now known as TachyonLizard 13:02 < moogsi> did you.... did you just regenerate? 13:02 < Moe_Gamma> :p 13:02 * TachyonLizard turned into an elementary particle 13:02 < moogsi> what happened to Moe_Delta? 13:02 -!- moogsi is now known as Moe_Delta 13:02 * Moe_Gamma ghosts 13:02 < Moe_Gamma> :P 13:03 -!- Mike_H [~quassel@72.184.56.186] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:03 -!- Mike_H is now known as Guest30945 13:03 * TachyonLizard accelerates Moe_Delta to relativistic speeds 13:04 * mattbuck accelerates to irrelevant speeds 13:04 < TachyonLizard> Hmm 13:04 < TachyonLizard> Actually 13:04 -!- TachyonLizard is now known as GluonLizard 13:04 < GluonLizard> There 13:04 < GluonLizard> Now we can have some fun >:D 13:05 * GluonLizard causes all the atoms in mattbuck's body to fly apart 13:05 < Moe_Delta> :o 13:05 < Moe_Gamma> :o 13:05 < mattbuck> wake me up when higgs boson eagle turns up 13:05 < Moe_Delta> you put mattbuck back together at once! 13:05 < Moe_Delta> preferably as a ferret 13:06 < GluonLizard> Hmm, okay 13:06 < Moe_Delta> or a lady 13:06 * GluonLizard starts reassembling nuclei 13:06 < Moe_Delta> whatever, go with what you feel 13:06 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:06 < Moe_Delta> thangkew 13:06 * GluonLizard reassembles mattbuck as a lolcat 13:06 < mattbuck> my boyfriend would probably find me more attractive as a ferret, but a lady... no 13:06 < Moe_Gamma> or maybe you could reassemble him as lcubttak 13:06 < Moe_Gamma> kcubttam * 13:07 -!- zscout370 [~zscout370@wikipedia/Zscout370] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:07 < GluonLizard> I'd have to use antimatter to do that 13:07 < mareklug> זו התמונה הטובה ביותר של שחקנית זה שיש לנו במלאי, וזה הצילום הטוב ביותר שלה שהיו לנו מאז 2008. 13:07 < GluonLizard> And /me isn't antigluonlizard :( 13:07 -!- Guest30945 [~quassel@72.184.56.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:07 < Moe_Delta> bestiality ferret or anthropomorphic furry ferret? :l 13:07 < GluonLizard> Umm 13:07 < Moe_Delta> NEITHER OF THESE IS A BETTER ANSWER 13:07 * GluonLizard backs away, slowly 13:07 * GluonLizard starts flinging positrons at Moe_Delta 13:07 < mattbuck> I assume he'd prefer the latter 13:08 < Moe_Delta> this is an inevitable conversation at some point in every relationship... 13:08 < Moe_Delta> best to think carefully about it 13:08 * GluonLizard demotes Moe_Delta to Moe_Omega 13:08 * Moe_Delta catches the positrons, put them in a sandwich 13:08 -!- Moe_Delta is now known as Moe_Omega 13:08 < Moe_Gamma> :D 13:08 < Moe_Omega> :( 13:09 * mattbuck initiates the Omega Directive 13:09 < Moe_Omega> I AM THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA 13:09 < GluonLizard> :O 13:09 < GluonLizard> Omega directive initiated 13:09 < Moe_Omega> *I MAY NOT BE THE ALPHA 13:09 < GluonLizard> This IRC channel is now closed 13:09 -!- Moe_Gamma is now known as Moe_Alpha 13:09 < GluonLizard> mattbuck: Please verify your command authorization codes. 13:09 < NotASpy> and open again. Normally service has been resumed. GluonLizard 13:09 < NotASpy> :p 13:10 < mattbuck> I am a duly authorised Commons admin 13:10 < GluonLizard> NotASpy: Access denid. 13:10 < GluonLizard> mattbuck: Access granted. An omega particle has been detected as Moe_Omega. 13:10 < mareklug> Ez a legjobb kép a színésznő, hogy mi van a Commons, és ez a legjobb fénykép az neki, hogy mi volt 2008 óta. 13:10 * Moe_Omega uploads the virus using a MacBook 13:10 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:10 * mattbuck wonders what a leg job is 13:10 -!- Fluff|away is now known as Fluffernutter 13:11 < mareklug> which wiki is hy? 13:11 < Moe_Alpha> I need a bot, so I can register these names as my alternative accounts xD 13:12 < GluonLizard> Actually, I have a bot that does exactly that :P 13:12 < Moe_Omega> mareklug: Armenian 13:12 < Moe_Alpha> mareklug: that is the Armenian wiki 13:12 < Moe_Alpha> damn you 13:12 < mareklug> thank you, Moe_Alpha and Moe_Omega 13:13 < GluonLizard> rm Moe_* 13:13 < Moe_Omega> WHY DID YOU SAY HIM FIRST I AM FIRST 13:13 < Moe_Alpha> actually I am first 13:13 < Moe_Alpha> I am alpha 13:13 < Moe_Omega> :( 13:13 < Moe_Omega> .o(one day..) 13:14 < mareklug> it's left to right is it not, can someone run this through (mine is occupied): Լիվ Թայլեր է պրեմիերան է: «անհավատալի ծովագնացության համար անպետք նավի կմախք" 13:14 < mattbuck> open a 2nd translation screen 13:14 < Moe_Alpha> that is ltr, yes 13:15 < mareklug> thanks Moe_Omega ; thanks mattbuck 13:15 < Moe_Omega> haha 13:15 < Moe_Alpha> D: wrong Moe 13:15 < mattbuck> neither of us helped 13:15 < Moe_Omega> NO 13:15 < Moe_Omega> I AM HELPING 13:15 < GluonLizard> Moe_Omega: {{cn} 13:15 < GluonLizard> * {{cn}} 13:15 < mareklug> mattbuck my momma taught me to be polite, mutherfucker 13:16 -!- thedj [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:16 -!- Moe_Omega is now known as Moe_Upsilon 13:16 -!- Moe_Alpha is now known as Moe_Epsilon 13:16 -!- anderson is now known as anderson|duerme 13:17 < Qcoder00> Greetings humanoise 13:17 < Qcoder00> ;) 13:17 < mareklug> :) :) Liv Tayler at the premiere of "incredible hulk" <-- perfect translation and reverse translation. 13:18 < Moe_Epsilon> Moe_Upsilon: that's a pretty good one, that will be the first I register if I create a bot/alternate account :p 13:18 < Moe_Upsilon> :) 13:18 < Moe_Upsilon> i'd better change before this gets WEIRD 13:18 -!- Moe_Upsilon is now known as moogsi 13:19 < Moe_Epsilon> thanks xD all these Moes are probably going to confuse people 13:19 < Qcoder00> "Omg It's an Invasion!!" 13:19 < NotASpy> Moe_Epsilon confuses me, any more and my head will explode. 13:20 < Qcoder00> NotASpy: At least it's not Zombies... 13:20 < GluonLizard> NotASpy's a spy! 13:20 < Moe_Epsilon> :o 13:20 * GluonLizard hides his sentry gun 13:20 * Qcoder00 makes a shuflling sound... ' WINDOWSSSS ... WINDOWSSSS!" 13:20 < Qcoder00> ;) 13:20 < NotASpy> Qcoder00: they get beaten to death to the music of Queen... 13:21 < mareklug> Moe_Epsilon and what wiki is io? Ido? a language in Nigeria? 13:21 < Qcoder00> To bear fair though a zombie stomp in the UK Did actualyl lead a local authority to review it's civil contingencies plan 13:21 < moogsi> it's like Yoruba 13:21 < moogsi> you know Yoruba 13:22 < Moe_Epsilon> io.wiki is Ido, mareklug 13:22 < mareklug> an artificial language. fuck that. i will write the edit summary in natural Merkin. 13:23 < moogsi> oh yeah Ido is one of those Esperanto/Interlingua things 13:23 < Moe_Epsilon> indeed 13:23 < moogsi> may as well use Lojban 13:23 < Qcoder00> Wikiia has it's own constructed language 13:23 < Qcoder00> ;) 13:23 < Moe_Epsilon> not to be confused with Wikia 13:23 < Qcoder00> I meant Wikia 13:23 < Qcoder00> Argh 13:24 < Qcoder00> Typos... 13:24 < mareklug> "Liv Tyler (n. 1977) esas aktorino." the entire fucking bio of Liv in Ido. Who needs this language if it does not get people to write in it. 13:24 < Moe_Epsilon> xD 13:24 < moogsi> it's true... she /esas/ aktorino 13:25 < moogsi> how many en.wiki articles are 100% accurate? 13:25 < mareklug> bless the Italians. They kept the good picture. 13:25 < Qcoder00> moogsi: That depends... 13:25 < Qcoder00> Do you want accuray or truthiness? 13:26 < moogsi> haha i'm sure some of the maths and physics ones are just fine :) 13:26 < moogsi> OH MY GOD YOU CAN SEE HER TITS 13:26 < Moe_Epsilon> wat 13:26 < moogsi> i scrolled down... 13:27 < Moe_Epsilon> oh, you mean Liv Tyler? 13:27 < moogsi> i no longer support this image 13:27 * moogsi deletes the image 13:27 < Moe_Epsilon> you don't support boobs? 13:27 < Moe_Epsilon> :< 13:27 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:28 < mareklug> これは、我々はコモンズに持っているこの女優の最高の画像であり、それは我々が2008年から持っていたことを彼女の最高の写真です。 "超人ハルク"のためのプレミアでリヴ·タイラー 13:29 < anderson|duerme> :< 13:29 < Moe_Epsilon> square square square square square square square square square square 13:29 < moogsi> no, i am in favour of all mammals going extinct 13:29 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:29 < moogsi> i don't even like animal boobs 13:29 < Moe_Epsilon> I don't think you're supposed to 13:29 < kondi> do you know Japanese or are just translating? 13:29 < kondi> mareklug: ^ 13:30 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@wikimedia/MTC] has quit [Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~] 13:30 < mareklug> uncle google is helping out. I actually took a semester in graduate school 13:30 < moogsi> mareklug knows polish, english, welsh, armenian, egyptian arabic and ido 13:30 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:30 < moogsi> and japanese 13:31 < mareklug> and finnish, czech, french (he does some), persian, fuck I forget the others. ah, yes, bahasai indonesia and now georgian. 13:31 < kondi> you're joking right 13:31 < Moe_Epsilon> that must have been some semester.. 13:31 < moogsi> i also know armenian look: mlnmhplhmnulnum Dlmlmulljm qlmkmnlnqmlqnm 13:32 < Moe_Epsilon> so many m's 13:32 < moogsi> i had miss nagasue for japanese 13:32 < eeekster> it'd be okay if they were candy 13:33 < moogsi> and miss matsuoka 13:33 < mareklug> no you don't, sir. this is georgian. isn't it georgious? ლივ ტაილერი 13:33 < mareklug> that;s Live Tyler in Georgian. 13:33 < mareklug> the gorgious Liv in georgious georgian 13:34 < Moe_Epsilon> I know Georgian too then apparently ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) 13:34 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:34 < moogsi> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PrecisionGuidedFirearmHeadsUpDisplay.jpg "You're all clear, kid! Now let's blow this deer and go home!" 13:35 -!- John_Smith [~johnsmith@ip-64-134-220-65.public.wayport.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:35 < GluonLizard> moogsi: ...That looks so fake 13:35 < moogsi> this is a real thing which exists. 13:35 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:35 < GluonLizard> Wow 13:35 < GluonLizard> Pfft, people these days 13:36 < GluonLizard> I fire my rifles with the sight built in on the barrel, thank you very much 13:36 < moogsi> it's what you see when you look into this https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PrecisionGuidedFirearm.jpg 13:37 < moogsi> also it probably plays the title theme from Terminator 2 13:37 < Moe_Epsilon> isn't the point of hunting supposed to be a challenge? 13:37 -!- rindolf [~shlomif@109.67.167.2] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:37 < GluonLizard> Moe_Epsilon: The point of *gun sports* in general is the challenge of aiming the gun 13:37 -!- thedj [~pjotr@524B246D.cm-4-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:37 -!- thedj [~pjotr@524B246D.cm-4-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Changing host] 13:37 -!- thedj [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:37 < GluonLizard> So yeah 13:37 < Moe_Epsilon> yeah, how is aiming that kind of a gun a challenge? 13:37 < Moe_Epsilon> :P 13:37 < GluonLizard> Exactly 13:38 < GluonLizard> If I wanted a scope like that, I might as well build the rest of the robot to shoot the gun for me :P 13:38 < moogsi> :) 13:38 < GluonLizard> By the way, it bothers me how many people don't know how to use a scoped rifle properly :P 13:38 < Moe_Epsilon> A deer-hunting robot.. 13:40 < mareklug> Kazakhs also kept the good picture. And not because the fucking fuck fucker wasn't there. You can tell the land of Borat can into nice taste. 13:41 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-098-027-034-197.triad.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:44 < mareklug> 이것은 우리가 풍경, Photo에서 가지고있는이 배우의 최고의 이미지입니다, 그리고 우리는 2008 년부터 가지고 한 그녀의 최고의 사진입니다. "믿을 수없는 노후 선"의 초연에 리브 타일러 13:46 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:48 < mareklug> Optimus ille est imago mima in usu habemus, et illius, quam habebat cum photograph sit amet MMVIII. Liv Tyler summus ad in "Truncum incredibili" 13:48 < mareklug> Habemas Liv! 13:48 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:48 -!- John_Smith [~johnsmith@ip-64-134-220-65.public.wayport.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 13:48 < mareklug> or is it Livam? it declines in Latin, doesn't it? 13:48 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@c-24-23-83-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:48 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@c-24-23-83-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:48 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:49 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has quit [Client Quit] 13:49 -!- kondi [~konarak@wikimedia/kondicherry] has quit [Quit: night folks] 13:50 -!- Maryana_lunch is now known as Maryana 13:50 < mareklug> Dit is het beste beeld van deze actrice die we hebben op Commons, en het is de beste foto van haar die we sinds 2008 hebben gehad. Liv Tyler bij de première van "The Incredible Hulk" 13:51 -!- Captain-n00dle [~Cptn-n00d@wikipedia/Captain-n00dle] has quit [Quit: Cheerio!] 13:51 < moogsi> i don't think The Incredible Hulk got a release in the Vatican 13:51 < moogsi> though i would like to see the dubbed version 13:52 -!- Beria [~Beria@wikimedia/Beria] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:52 < mareklug> i love the title just the same 13:52 < Qcoder00> Sounds like a spelll 13:52 < moogsi> and yes you decline personal names in Latin 13:52 < mareklug> moving right along. Liv Tyler på premiere for "The Incredible Hulk" 13:52 < moogsi> boring 13:52 < moogsi> is that Swedish? 13:52 < mareklug> Dette er det beste bildet av denne skuespilleren som vi har på Commons, og det er den beste fotografi av henne som vi har hatt siden 2008. 13:53 < moogsi> yes :) 13:53 < mareklug> close. it is norwegia 13:53 < mareklug> n 13:53 < moogsi> aw 13:53 < Qcoder00> Is it me or am I seeing cunning Linguists on Wikipedia? 13:53 < Qcoder00> XD 13:54 < mareklug> compare to Swedish, moogsi Detta är den bästa bilden av denna skådespelerska som vi har på Commons, och det är det bästa fotografiet av henne som vi har haft sedan 2008. Liv Tyler på premiären av "The Incredible Hulk" 13:54 -!- IDoH [~IDoH@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:54 < mareklug> the giveaway is "og" which is easy to spot. and 13:54 < IDoH> hey 13:54 < moogsi> yeah it didn't look like quite enough As to be Swedish :P 13:55 < Peter-C> napkins are a vegetable 13:55 < Peter-C> They come from plants 13:55 < Qcoder00> Hi Peter-C 13:55 < IDoH> LOL, Peter-C. 13:55 < moogsi> uh.. false 13:55 -!- MouthOfSauron [9c6e52de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.110.82.222] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:55 < moogsi> no wait true 13:55 < moogsi> no false 13:55 < Peter-C> Pizzas are a vegetable 13:55 < Peter-C> Why not napkins 13:56 < moogsi> pizzas are no longer a vegetable 13:57 < moogsi> napkins are of questionable edibility 13:57 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-098-027-034-197.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:57 < moogsi> i can back this up with a gross anecdote 14:00 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:00 < Qcoder00> Vegtables? 14:00 < Qcoder00> Aren't chips a vegteable? 14:01 < IDoH> Aren't freezer pops fruit? 14:01 < IDoH> Hey MouthOfSauron and koishi. 14:01 < MouthOfSauron> ... 14:01 < MJ94> mareklug: ! 14:02 < mareklug> IDoH what are freezer pops? 14:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tsarnaev's friends 'social animals' 14:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> huh? Furries? :p 14:03 < Qcoder00> mareklug: A 'freezer' pop is a pouch of fruit juice you freeze to make an ice pop... 14:04 < IDoH> mareklug: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_pop#Ice_pops_without_a_wooden_stick and what this boy is eating: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Boy_eating_freezie_(cropped).jpg 14:04 < Qcoder00> not dissimilar to a frozen ice lolly or dessert. 14:04 < IDoH> Wikipedia is your friend. ;-) 14:04 * jorm sighs. 14:05 < IDoH> what is it, jorm? 14:05 < jorm> oh. i got a cease-and-desist letter from a company in russia about my domain name. 14:05 < jorm> i registered it in 1995; this company didn't exist until 2006. 14:05 < mareklug> IDoH right now wikipedias, plural, are my row to hoe. I am undoing a fucking self-promoting illustrator to the starz.' 14:05 < Qcoder00> You have prior art? 14:05 < jorm> but it's just a pain in th eass. 14:05 < jorm> yeas. 14:05 < jorm> yes. prior art. 14:05 < Qcoder00> Well can you prove it? 14:05 < Qcoder00> :) 14:06 < IDoH> Maybe you should give THEM a cease and desist letter, jorm! 14:06 < jorm> i don't really have to. the domain has been in use continuoulsy since 1995. 14:06 < mareklug> jorm what is the domain name, if you can tell? 14:06 < Qcoder00> If you can prove prior art, then offer them a cross licensing deal 14:06 < jorm> gaijin.com 14:06 < jorm> it's not a secret. 14:06 < mareklug> just get yourself gaijin.us 14:06 < jorm> anyways. they are demanding that i give them the domain, and it's a bullying tactic. 14:07 < Qcoder00> jorm: Do you use the domain for anything business related? 14:07 < mareklug> do they have a legit case? 14:07 < jorm> so i called a friend who is a lawyer and has spoken in front of the supreme court about trademark and internet copyright and he's called them to put the Fear into them and now i'm just waiting. 14:07 < jorm> no, they don't have a legitimate case. 14:07 < moogsi> no of course not 14:07 < jorm> it's frivolous. i don't think they did research into who i am. 14:07 -!- sdamashek [~Vacation9@pool-173-73-80-87.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:07 -!- sdamashek [~Vacation9@pool-173-73-80-87.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:07 -!- sdamashek [~Vacation9@wikipedia/Vacation9] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:07 < Qcoder00> jorm: Fear of Lawyer? 14:07 < Qcoder00> ;) 14:08 < jorm> to think i can be bullied like this, or don't have access to high-end attorneys. 14:08 < mareklug> jorm if I understand you right, they came into existence after you were already using the domain? 14:08 < jorm> about 11 years after, yes. 14:08 < moogsi> it's a dumb thing to call your company anyway 14:08 < mareklug> well, that is laughable. they are wasting their time and exposing themselves to a sorry lawsuit 14:08 < jorm> well, my guy told them "If you don't back off, you'll be walking into a buzzsaw, and we'll seek sanctions, and your client will lose a LOT of money." 14:08 -!- Ironholds is now known as IH|meeting 14:09 < Qcoder00> and create a diplomatic incident ;) 14:09 < mareklug> jorm it is them who need a better lawyer. 14:09 -!- YE|AFK is now known as YE 14:09 < jorm> smrt people in this room can probably guess who my lawyer is. 14:09 < moogsi> from an IP perspective; every company on the internet should be a made-up word, like SPMOONSH 14:09 < moogsi> or HURPTR 14:09 < moogsi> or whatever short domain manes are still available 14:09 < moogsi> *names 14:10 < jorm> right. "gaijin" is a normal word in japan, which is commonly used in english. 14:10 < jorm> plus, i actually might have an inverse case about their trademarks. they called for them long after i had been operating as 'gaijin' and providing entertainment from that venue. 14:11 < Qcoder00> jorm: They sent you a letter? Did they ask you not to publish it? XD 14:11 < jorm> i am going to wait until I have the go-ahead from counsel to publish. 14:11 < Qcoder00> jorm: I assume you know about chilling effect ;) 14:11 < jorm> i'm assuming that tehy don't know about the streisand effect. 14:12 < Qcoder00> They are Russian you say? 14:12 < jorm> yes. 14:12 < moogsi> well "gaijin" has actually been in the OED for a while... i don't know to what extent you can argue that it's a naturalized English word 14:12 < jorm> lawyers are in virginia, though. 14:12 < moogsi> you couldn't trademark it in the UK for example 14:13 < jorm> i'm surprised you could trademark it in the US> 14:13 -!- James_F is now known as James_F|Away 14:14 * Qcoder00 lols...." Player 1 attacks with fireball, Player 2 attacks with LAWSUIT! Player 1 Fatality!!" 14:16 < jorm> i am not Afraid. I just fucking hate bullies. of all kinds. 14:16 < moogsi> they haven't got a leg to stand on imo, it's just annoying 14:16 < moogsi> they're just doing it hoping you'll be clueless and roll over i suppose 14:17 < Qcoder00> moogsi: They are russian, it could be about money... 14:17 < moogsi> maybe you could... come to an amicable agreement 14:17 < moogsi> sell for mad $$$$$ 14:17 < mareklug> (przywracam nasze najlepsze zdjęcie aktorki na Commons. Było tu od 200 r.; nie mamy lepszego. Uwaga na zepsuja: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specjalna:Wkład/2.90.39.70 obecnie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oz_Steps) 14:17 < mareklug> obvious typo, erm. 14:17 < moogsi> mareklug: yes. 14:18 -!- jonathan` [~farnhamj@2a03:ca80:8000:7673::16] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:18 < moogsi> i agree 14:18 -!- jonathan` [~farnhamj@2a03:ca80:8000:7673::16] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:19 < jorm> i'd sell the domain for $BIGNUM. 14:19 < jorm> but i don't think they want to spend a dime. 14:20 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-098-027-034-197.triad.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:21 < mareklug> is there really a predefined system variable BIGNUM anywhre, or are you lisping? 14:24 -!- tttb [~tom@host-89-242-48-32.as13285.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:25 < mareklug> russavia Russia into pretty blue toga Liv even without my correction! 14:26 < jorm> I always saw $BIGNUM as a perl thing. 14:26 -!- evilgohan2 [~freenode@c-68-48-223-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:26 < jorm> it's a thing friends of mine have used since the 90s with each other. 14:26 < mareklug> jorm didn't you know that the Bignum data type was a linked list implementation of arbitrarily large integers in Lisp since before Common Lisp? :) :) 14:26 < jorm> i never learned lisp. 14:27 < Qcoder00> Oh comeone who uses LISP now that we have SCHEME! 14:27 < jorm> ((((it was alwasy ((((too)))) hard to ((read)))))) 14:27 < mareklug> it was used at MIT on Symbolics Lisp Machines and the MIT lisp machines that Stallman built. 14:28 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:28 < mareklug> jorm it is a lovely language, it just requires competent pretty-printing. which the function (pretty-print) will do for ya. that and emacs as editor. :) 14:28 < Qcoder00> There is one true editor, and Stallman is it's coder ;) 14:28 < jorm> i used to know enough lisp to handle my .emacsrc 14:29 < mareklug> Qcoder00 to this day Ford or some such use Lisp to design their cars 14:29 < jorm> have you ever met james gosling? he is now an emacs denier. 14:29 < mareklug> can't believe that. 14:29 < jorm> and yet, it is true. 14:29 < mareklug> after his lisp and emacs for the vax when he was at CMU 14:30 * Qcoder00 ponders if you can consider Emacs users a subculture, and thus 'haters' can be prosecuted in Manchester... 14:30 < Qcoder00> ;) 14:30 < jorm> "There are better editors than EMACS". - James Gosling, to me, 2011. 14:30 -!- Kraps [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kraps] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:30 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:30 < mareklug> I wonder what he thinks of Java now. 14:30 < jorm> A good question. 14:31 -!- Beria [~Beria@wikimedia/Beria] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:31 < jorm> (I actually know the answer, but it would not be in good faith for me to reveal the response) 14:31 < jorm> (it's bound up in his departure from sun.) 14:31 < mareklug> hmmm 14:31 * tommorris slings the Vim, but hasn't got quite enough fingers for Emacs. 14:31 < jorm> i know enough vi to compile emacs. 14:31 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:31 -!- evilgohan2 [~freenode@c-68-48-223-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:31 < Isarra> I know how to quit vi. 14:32 < tommorris> the project I've been doing at work has mostly been TextMate2 14:32 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:32 < tommorris> but still a lot of MacVim and console Vim. ;) 14:32 < mareklug> i know enough vi to emergency edit a /etc/inittab so I can log in without the GUI and then escape :wq to save my changes. :) :) :) 14:32 < Isarra> I like nano. 14:32 < jorm> [esc]:q! 14:32 < mareklug> nano is ok, it is emacs with harder leaving the buffer. 14:33 < d_> I recommend using foot pedals to make emacs easier 14:33 < tommorris> Nano would be alright if they got rid of those ridiculous keyboard chording commands. 14:33 < d_> Although, there was some guy who actually hooked up a foot pedal to vim for some reason 14:33 < Qcoder00> hi tommorris 14:33 < d_> https://github.com/alevchuk/vim-clutch 14:33 < tommorris> What you really need is some kind of modal editing setup so you can charge around documents at high speed. 14:33 -!- mezcan [~Bob@24-226-214-121.ae.cgocable.ca] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:33 < mareklug> it will be implanted in our brains 14:34 < jorm> tommorris am i the only one who deletes spam from the mailing list? 14:34 < mareklug> then we will be making thinkos instead of typos 14:34 < d_> I don't know if I wanna see people's thinkos 14:34 < tommorris> jorm: no, I do too. but not this week because I've been crazy mad busy 14:34 < jorm> it's so weirdly low-traffic that MOST of the traffic is spam. 14:35 -!- anderson [kvirc@181-182-66-237.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:35 < mareklug> russavia I LUV RUSSIA!!! http://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Тайлер,_Лив&diff=next&oldid=45530253 14:36 -!- anderson|duerme [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:36 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:37 -!- mezcan [~Bob@24-226-214-121.ae.cgocable.ca] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:38 -!- mezcan [~Bob@24-226-214-121.ae.cgocable.ca] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:41 -!- anderson [kvirc@181-182-66-237.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:42 -!- anderson [kvirc@181-182-66-237.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:44 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Quit: GorillaWarfare] 14:46 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:46 < petan> anyone want to try irc client I made ^^ 14:47 < petan> I need teh feedback XD 14:48 < Demiurge1000> petan: I wouldn't install any software made by someone sharing a name so close to that of a traitor to France! 14:49 < petan> Demiurge1000 are you using huggle? 14:49 < petan> this is a nickname, my name is Peter :P 14:49 < mareklug> To je najboljša podoba te igralke, ki ga imamo na Commons, in to je najboljša fotografija od nje, da smo imeli od leta 2008. Liv Tyler na premieri za "The Incredible Hulk" 14:49 < Demiurge1000> petan: Not fooled! Just trying to anglicise yourself! Like that guy "Fred" (erick) 14:50 < petan> lol so petan is a name in France? 14:50 < petan> in Czech it is something like Pete in english 14:50 < petan> or whatever you say :x 14:52 < mareklug> Petan 14:52 < mareklug> see, if you capitalize it it looks cesky 14:53 < mareklug> if youleave it petan, it reads like a French bicycle derailleur 14:53 < petan> aha 14:54 < petan> I dont like any capital letters in irc nicknames :P 14:54 < mareklug> but in real life you are Petan 14:54 < petan> it is like file name on unix with capital letters :D 14:54 < petan> in real life I am Petr 14:54 < mareklug> petan it is, in MacOS X. the long name. the short posix name is lowercased 14:55 < petan> well I said i dont like it not that it isnt possible to make it in unix 14:55 < mareklug> well you are preaching to the choir, as the saying goes. 14:55 -!- Fei_Hua [46c506af@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.197.6.175] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:55 < mareklug> Ово је најбоља слика овог глумица која имамо о парламента, а то је најбоља фотографија она које смо имали од 2008. Лив Тајлер на премијери за "Тхе Инцредибле Хулк" 14:56 < petan> I understand part of this 14:56 < petan> I think 2008 is a year 14:56 -!- Fei_Hua [46c506af@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.197.6.175] has quit [Client Quit] 14:56 < mareklug> here, let me help you since I already did that part: To je nejlepší obraz Lyv Tyler máme na Commons, a to je nejlepší fotografie z ní, že jsme měli od roku 2008. 14:56 < petan> you guys are missing opportunity to install the best irc client in a world XD 14:57 < Krenair> Wtf? 14:57 < petan> Lyv Tyler? Isnt she Liv? 14:57 < Krenair> Are you allowed to remove another user's comments? 14:57 < mareklug> fuck. it changed it on me. 14:57 < mareklug> it's ok in the article 14:57 < petan> Krenair you are allowed to do anything :D 14:57 < mareklug> i did not catch it in the copy and paste to the edit summary 14:57 < Krenair> on a discussion page 14:57 < petan> but just until the midnight... sssh 14:58 < mareklug> Krenair it is in bad form to do anything to someone else's comments unless you are hiding a personal attack and other such. 14:58 < mareklug> or as was the case in my case, removing a section from an article talk page that was stale, irrelevant and confusing. 14:59 < mareklug> and 3 years old 14:59 < Krenair> It's Philippe Beaudette removing a section of WT:Notifications linking to a private bug in his summary -.- 15:00 < Krenair> I can't even see that bug mostly because of my age 15:00 -!- MouthOfSauron [9c6e52de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.110.82.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:00 < Krenair> Forget wontfixing it 15:02 -!- IH|meeting is now known as Ironholds 15:05 -!- mezcan [~Bob@24-226-214-121.ae.cgocable.ca] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 15:10 -!- YE is now known as YE|Haircut 15:11 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:15 -!- tttb [~tom@host-89-242-48-32.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Fare thee well] 15:16 < jorm> So, my lawyer, Mike Godwin, says that the fact that "gaijin" is in the OED is pretty much an open and shut thing. 15:16 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:16 -!- foks [~sup@host86-167-255-210.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:16 -!- foks [~sup@host86-167-255-210.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Changing host] 15:16 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:16 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:18 -!- thineantiquepen [~thineanti@wikipedia/Thine-Antique-Pen] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:21 < Demiurge1000> jorm, I always wondered who Mike worked for after WMF... I could've checked online, but now I know. 15:21 < mareklug> Moe_Epsilon zh is traditional Chinese, yes? not Simplified? 15:21 < jorm> He's working in DC now. 15:21 -!- Qcoder00 [~chatzilla@gfarlie-adsl.demon.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 15:21 < mareklug> jorm um, Mike is fibbing here. "apple" is in OED as well. :) 15:22 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:23 < Moe_Epsilon> mareklug: well there is zh.wiki and there is zh-classical.wiki 15:23 < mareklug> no, classical chinese is a different bear altogether 15:23 < mareklug> is there a simplified wiki? 15:23 < Moe_Epsilon> there's no simplified wiki 15:24 < Moe_Epsilon> so I think they are both on zh 15:24 < mareklug> now I am confused. surely wctaiwan's traditional chinese is not the ideograms the communists use, the simplified. 15:25 * Moe_Epsilon wouldn't know s: 15:25 -!- sDrewth [~billinghu@wikisource/billinghurst] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:26 < Moe_Epsilon> there are different dialects of Chinese, such as gan chinese, min-nan and cantonese, but those are thier own wikis 15:26 < Moe_Epsilon> only other ones are zh and zh classical and classical is its own 15:27 < mareklug> 麗芙·泰勒 well this is Liv Tyler on zh and in google when i select Chinese Traditional 15:27 < mareklug> and this is when I select Chinese simplified: 丽芙·泰勒 15:28 < mareklug> except for the first ideogram, they are identical 15:28 < moogsi> well only some of the characters are simplified 15:28 < mareklug> 丽芙·泰勒 15:28 < Moe_Epsilon> well 麗芙·泰勒 is a redirect to 莉芙·泰萊 15:29 < mareklug> actually the last one is from zh 15:29 < Moe_Epsilon> on zh.wiki 15:29 -!- BewareofDoug [~Doug__@wikipedia/Doug] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:29 < moogsi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikipedia#Automatic_conversion_between_traditional_and_simplified_Chinese_characters 15:30 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 15:30 < mareklug> so Moe_Epsilon was right -- both are zh. and I was right: zh-classical is a different animal. 15:30 < mareklug> thank you both. 15:31 < Moe_Epsilon> yep, zh-classical is very different 15:32 -!- thineantiquepen [~thineanti@wikipedia/Thine-Antique-Pen] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:33 -!- zz_Nascar1996 is now known as nas 15:35 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:37 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:38 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:44 -!- GluonLizard is now known as FastLizard4|away 15:46 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 15:48 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:48 -!- gwickwire is now known as pion 15:50 -!- kelapstick [ca83e93b@wikipedia/Kelapstick] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:51 -!- AzaToth [~azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:51 -!- Pownerus [~chatzilla@190.252.36.5] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:52 < Pownerus> !admin delete 15:52 -!- Fluffernutter is now known as Fluff|away 15:52 < NotASpy> Pownerus: what ? 15:52 < Pownerus> look that use [[User:Iván Darío Moreno Piraquive]] 15:52 -!- TheChance [~thechance@c-76-115-162-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:53 < Pownerus> he is making spam and posting things without references 15:53 < BewareofDoug> Hey sDrewth are you around? 15:53 -!- dendodge [~dendodge@unaffiliated/dendodge] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:53 < BewareofDoug> oops, wrong room 15:54 < Pownerus> also the spanish text is full-mouthed 15:55 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@50-32-36-169.drr01.hrbg.pa.frontiernet.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:55 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@50-32-36-169.drr01.hrbg.pa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:55 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:56 -!- AzaToth [~azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:56 < NotASpy> what does the text say - Google Translate says it's some gay stuff but I can't tell if it's problematic. 15:56 -!- sdamashek is now known as sd|dinner 15:57 < Pownerus> that ip post some things 15:57 < Pownerus> in the user 15:57 < Pownerus> page 15:57 < Pownerus> plese just erase the edits of the ip 15:57 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:59 -!- YE|Haircut is now known as YE|84-85 15:59 -!- YE|84-85 is now known as YE|84-85SWIO 15:59 < Pownerus> ... 16:02 < NotASpy> Pownerus: all sorted now. 16:03 < mareklug> finally! I have managed to get Liv Tyler back to her beautiful visage cum shiny blue dress and excellent photo on all wikipedias, and double-checked my work. Meanwhile some inconsiderate person clobbered the image while making reasonable fixes otherwise just minutes after my edit on the Slovak wikipedia. This took yet more of my time to address in both English and Slovak…. but I am DONE. 16:03 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@hntvlan538.0605.wlan.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:03 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@hntvlan538.0605.wlan.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Changing host] 16:03 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:03 < Pownerus> thanks 16:04 -!- Pownerus [~chatzilla@190.252.36.5] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0/20130329030848]] 16:04 < mareklug> 49 wikipedias in all. 16:05 < mareklug> Moe_Epsilon ^^ no automated edits. I will never hit even 30k at that clip 16:06 -!- sd|dinner is now known as sdamashek 16:06 -!- MaKiNeoH [5f3f74db@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.63.116.219] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:07 -!- LtNOWIS2 [~Simon@12.152.53.220] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:07 -!- Kraps [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kraps] has quit [Quit: peace] 16:09 < Moe_Epsilon> heh 16:09 -!- techman224 [~techman22@Wikimedia/Techman224] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:10 -!- sDrewth [~billinghu@wikisource/billinghurst] has left #wikipedia-en ["Don't put off to tomorrow, what can easily be put off to later in the week"] 16:10 < Moe_Epsilon> mareklug: I'm too lazy to make manual edits anymore :< 16:11 < mareklug> I never bothered to look into Abw, huggle, twinkle and whatever. I only use the flckr tool to get images from flckr to commons when I can. 16:12 < Moe_Epsilon> oh, yeah, the flickr tool is nice. I have AWB, but I hardly even use it lol 16:12 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has quit [Quit: You cannot logic someone out of an opinion they did not logic themselves into] 16:12 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:12 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:13 * IDoH basically only uses automated tools at this point. 16:13 * Moe_Epsilon has lost a lot of motivation to edit outside of requests from people 16:15 -!- lbft [~lbft@199.195.249.177] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:16 -!- lbft [~lbft@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:2e7c:e883:4138] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:16 -!- anderson [kvirc@181-182-66-237.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:22 -!- Ironholds is now known as IH|away 16:22 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:24 -!- Warhound [~chatzilla@wikipedia/deskana] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:26 -!- syf [~syf@119.181.8.14] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:27 -!- nas is now known as specialsareidiot 16:27 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:27 -!- specialsareidiot is now known as Nascar1996 16:28 < ihaveamac> there's already a bug with the new notification system on wikipedia 16:28 < ihaveamac> bots that do minor edits on user talk pages still notify the user 16:29 < mareklug> IDoH but you don't write content, and I do. 16:29 < IDoH> I suppose so, mareklug. 16:29 < mareklug> ihaveamac still annoy the user, you meant 16:30 < ihaveamac> my page was archived by a bot and I was still *annoyed* 16:31 < mareklug> i feel that my 48-wiki restoration of Liv Tyler is the most fucking awesome barnstar in its own distributed form. :) 16:34 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:34 < mareklug> VLAB, Very Large Array Barnstar sort of like this, but less useful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_Large_Array 16:37 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:40 -!- Beria [~Beria@177.207.120.161.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:40 -!- Beria [~Beria@177.207.120.161.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Changing host] 16:40 -!- Beria [~Beria@wikimedia/Beria] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:41 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:44 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 16:44 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@pool-70-20-61-72.man.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:44 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@pool-70-20-61-72.man.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:44 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@unaffiliated/fleetflame] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:44 -!- syf [~syf@119.181.8.14] has quit [Quit: 离开] 16:45 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:50 < legoktm> ihaveamac: there's a patch in the works for that 16:50 < ihaveamac> legoktm: ok 16:50 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:51 < ihaveamac> I miss the orange bar honestly, it would creep me out making me think "what did I do wrong?" 16:51 < ChrisGualtieri> They are already trying to control the budding Wikiproject x-x.... 16:51 < ihaveamac> but I'll use the new notifications 16:52 -!- lukas23 is now known as lukas|away 16:53 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 16:53 < Moe_Epsilon> I hated that orange bar, good riddance 16:53 * Jasper_Deng concurs 16:53 < ihaveamac> "Orange Bar of Doom" 16:53 < ihaveamac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notifications/FAQ#What_happened_to_the_orange_bar_for_talk_page_messages_on_Wikipedia.3F 16:55 < Moe_Epsilon> honestly an idea I would like implemented is a JavaScript bubble that alerts you in the (maybe) bottom right of the screen that fades in/fades out that alerts you of talk page messages 16:55 < Moe_Epsilon> then if you don't answer it, then red dot at the top 16:56 < Moe_Epsilon> I'm sure someone has created something like that for personal use :P 16:56 < ihaveamac> I might try it 16:56 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 16:56 < ihaveamac> if I can figure out how to 16:56 < ihaveamac> and caching does not put me off 16:57 < IDoH> ihaveamac: I thought the same thing when I saw the orange bar! 16:57 < ihaveamac> the notification is far less scary 16:57 < ihaveamac> even though it provides almost the same information 16:57 < IDoH> Yup 16:57 -!- ChrisGualtieri [ae3ebae3@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:58 -!- ChrisGualtieri [ae3ebae3@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:58 < ihaveamac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anxietyonwiki_v.png 16:59 < Moe_Epsilon> heh 17:00 < Moe_Epsilon> I mostly have anxiety on Wikipedia because even when I am barely communicating with anyone on Wikipedia, I am still criticized heavily 17:01 < ihaveamac> I don't get involved enough to get that many comments about me 17:01 < ihaveamac> and I've been editing less and less 17:01 < ihaveamac> Minecraft has been eating my life, as well as school 17:01 < Moe_Epsilon> I made a couple comments on one AN/I thread, for the first time in months, and WO says Wikipedia is better off when I am banned 17:01 < Moe_Epsilon> o_O 17:02 < ihaveamac> i have yet to have any real comments about me 17:02 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:02 < pion> guys 17:02 < pion> let's all change our nicks to physics nicks. 17:02 < pion> cause we're awesome like that. 17:03 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03 < ihaveamac> E=mc² 17:03 < Moe_Epsilon> ihaveamac: they were discussing Wikidata and they said they didn't know any of the administrators. The only ones they identied were PinkAmpersand, and me 17:03 < ihaveamac> hehe, I don't know if it's relevant 17:03 < Moe_Epsilon> then posted a picture of me 17:03 < Moe_Epsilon> lol 17:04 < ihaveamac> I'm a rollbacker at wikidata 17:04 < ihaveamac> but I mostly rollback one tag 17:04 < Moe_Epsilon> identified* 17:05 < ihaveamac> I believe over 50% of my edits to WD are rollbacks 17:05 < ihaveamac> yet I get no recognition 17:05 < ihaveamac> and I don't think I should 17:07 < Moe_Epsilon> lol 17:07 < ihaveamac> http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/IXavier 17:07 < ihaveamac> here's my list of contributions 17:07 * Moe_Epsilon gives ihaveamac a cookie in recognition for his good edits 17:07 < Moe_Epsilon> :p 17:07 -!- Mike_H [~quassel@72.184.56.186] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:07 < ihaveamac> I spend a minute or two (or more) going through 17:07 < IDoH> Moe_Epsilon: I get criticized a lot, too, but most of it is personal attacks by people I reverted. 17:07 < ihaveamac> and reverting IPs that add language names to descriptions 17:07 -!- Mike_H is now known as Guest55057 17:08 -!- Guest55057 is now known as Mike_HH 17:08 < ihaveamac> I'm wondering if it's done on purpose; I swear I saw one IP add "english" to the description 17:09 < ihaveamac> when I think it's people who are trying to translate the page 17:09 < Moe_Epsilon> IDoH: yeah, it's mostly because I used to be a real jerk sometimes :p I'll admit that. I've been using Wikipedia since 2004, so I've dragged a lot of detractors to me by now xD 17:10 < ihaveamac> I joined 2008 17:10 < ihaveamac> after unintentionally "vandalizing" an already-vandalized page 17:10 < ihaveamac> rarely made any edits until 2012 17:10 < IDoH> Moe_Epsilon: When I was a teenager, whenever I would get a lot of criticism, I'd take a Wikibreak for several months, sometimes even a year or so, and get a new account. WP:CLEANSTART. 17:11 -!- Maryana [~Maryana@wikipedia/Accedie] has quit [Quit: Maryana] 17:11 -!- Fluff|away is now known as Fluffernutter 17:11 < Moe_Epsilon> I've stupidly stayed with this account for far too long :P 17:11 < Moe_Epsilon> but it's okay 17:11 < ihaveamac> this is the spot where my rollbacks originate 17:11 < ihaveamac> http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&tagfilter=adding+language+as+description 17:12 < ihaveamac> I also go and mark undone ones as patrlled 17:13 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@unaffiliated/fleetflame] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13 -!- Nickinator [~Nickinato@123-243-142-239.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:13 < ihaveamac> I don't go on both wikipedia or wikidata as much now 17:13 < ihaveamac> :c 17:13 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@unaffiliated/fleetflame] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:13 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@unaffiliated/fleetflame] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:14 -!- Guest65138 [~timmeh@pool-70-20-61-72.man.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:14 -!- Guest65138 [~timmeh@pool-70-20-61-72.man.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:15 < Moe_Epsilon> :< 17:16 -!- thedj [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:17 < ihaveamac> I would say the nice thing about being unnoticed is I don't get complaints 17:17 -!- NotASpy [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Heligoland] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:19 < Moe_Epsilon> it is a nice feeling, not being bothered as much. 17:19 < ihaveamac> there's positives and negatives to being irrelevant :D 17:20 -!- fleetflame [~timmeh@unaffiliated/fleetflame] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:24 -!- fleetflame is now known as Fleet|mobile 17:26 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@quad2-581.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:26 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@quad2-581.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Changing host] 17:26 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:33 -!- ScottSteiner [~ScottStei@2001:470:1f07:b60:2856:c0a9:d317:867d] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:36 < IDoH> Yeah, honestly, ihaveamac, I don't get a lot of complaints, either. 17:36 < IDoH> And I actually get a decent amount of compliments 17:37 < ihaveamac> are you as unnoticed as I am? 17:37 < IDoH> Eh. Probably not. I think I'm close, though 17:37 < IDoH> I give a lot of {{wikithanks}}, though. 17:37 < ihaveamac> I consider myself very unnoticed and irrelevant 17:38 < ihaveamac> but I don't have to deal with a lot of stuff at that 17:38 < ihaveamac> c: 17:38 < ihaveamac> I prefer to stay like that 17:38 < IDoH> Wikipedia is down, I think. 17:38 < ihaveamac> so I don't get involved in big things then get banned or something 17:38 < ihaveamac> it's up for me 17:39 < MJ94> lag 17:39 < IDoH> It's in read only mode 17:39 < ihaveamac> time to /join #wikipedia 17:40 < IDoH> Heh, I already joined it, without it I wouldn't know to check/ask about it 17:40 < IDoH> ;-) 17:40 < ihaveamac> $wgReadOnly 17:42 -!- Nickinator [~Nickinato@123-243-142-239.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:42 < ihaveamac> while wikipedia is locked... 17:42 < ihaveamac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ArticleFeedbackv5/Jason_Statham/04f9b3e360955085237590b11c2fa805 17:42 < ihaveamac> I found that in RC 17:43 -!- Fluffernutter is now known as Fluff|away 17:44 < IDoH> LOL 17:44 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:49 < Moe_Epsilon> don't worry Commons might have some 17:50 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@d207-216-143-248.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:50 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@d207-216-143-248.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:50 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@wikipedia/mkdw] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:52 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:52 -!- Bbb23 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Bbb23] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:52 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Client Quit] 17:55 -!- Bbb23 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Bbb23] has quit [Client Quit] 17:56 -!- Bbb23 [~chatzilla@cpe-142-129-73-151.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:56 -!- Bbb23 [~chatzilla@cpe-142-129-73-151.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Changing host] 17:56 -!- Bbb23 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Bbb23] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:57 -!- 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19:24 < Amqui> https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/944668_556445651088178_712852224_n.jpg 19:24 -!- lahwran [lahwran@python/site-packages/lahwran] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:27 -!- kkthecoder [~kk@101.210.182.159] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:27 -!- kkthecoder [~kk@101.210.182.159] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:30 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:30 < Swob> how tall is Kim Jong Un, anyway, I wonder. Probably no official measurements 19:30 < Swob> I know his father was embarrassed about being 5'3" 19:32 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:32 < Swob> Korea is supposedly the tallest nation in East Asia 19:36 < Swob> whoa 19:37 < Swob> one report says 5'9 and 198lbs 19:37 < Swob> I guess he is kind of chubby 19:37 < IDoH> North Koreans are shorter than South Koreans, on average, but I'm sure Kim Jong Un was given plenty of food in his childhood. 19:40 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has quit [Quit: heatherw] 19:40 < Moe_Epsilon> I have a public account now :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Moe_Upsilon 19:41 < Swob> cute 19:41 -!- Moe_Epsilon is now known as Moe_Upsilon 19:42 < Moe_Upsilon> registering before anyone else does >_> 19:43 -!- Moe_Upsilon is now known as Moe_Epsilon 19:44 < Swob> then again, who am i calling chubby 19:44 * Swob gets on the scale agian 19:45 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@50-0-242-93.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:45 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@50-0-242-93.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:45 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:45 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:45 < Swob> nearing 180 it seems 19:48 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has quit [Client Quit] 19:49 -!- LtNOWIS2 [~Simon@12.152.53.220] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:57 < closedmouth> how tall are you though? 19:57 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@c-98-235-185-58.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:57 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@c-98-235-185-58.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:57 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:58 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 20:00 -!- jeffreyio [~sbrcio@ip70-190-254-163.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 -!- russavia [~russavia@CPE-60-230-246-33.lnse1.wel.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:00 -!- russavia [~russavia@CPE-60-230-246-33.lnse1.wel.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Changing host] 20:00 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:02 < Swob> 5'6 20:02 < Swob> so BMI is about 29, so considered "overweight" 20:05 -!- BewareofDoug [~Doug__@wikipedia/Doug] has quit [Quit: BewareofDoug] 20:05 < Moe_Epsilon> BMI is a lie 20:07 < Shirik> BMI is stupid 20:07 < Shirik> fat-muscle ratio is important 20:07 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:07 < Shirik> or really just fat % 20:07 < IShadowed> Shirik has str 7 20:07 < Shirik> ^ 20:07 < Swob> yeah I know 20:08 < Swob> I dont take it *too* seriously, but the relative change of my weight is still important 20:08 < Swob> e.g. I was 160 a few years ago and now 180, Im pretty sure those 20 pounds arent all muscle 20:08 < BlastHardcheese> BMI is a perfectly fine back-of-the-envelope estimation for non-athletes 20:08 -!- Hahc21 [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:08 -!- sdamashek is now known as alexandria 20:08 -!- alexandria is now known as sdamashek 20:13 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:14 -!- juancarlos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Killiondude] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:14 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:17 < juancarlos> Good evening, Wikipedians. 20:18 -!- NutRocker [~auroraMIR@186.19.70.211] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:18 -!- NutRocker [~auroraMIR@186.19.70.211] has quit [Client Quit] 20:18 -!- NutRocker [~auroraMIR@186.19.70.211] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:18 -!- NutRocker [~auroraMIR@186.19.70.211] has left #wikipedia-en [] 20:19 < Amqui> buenas tardes juancarlos 20:19 < juancarlos> Buenas. 20:20 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:20 < Amqui> hola Bradford 20:20 < Bradford> hola 20:21 -!- zz_Nascar1996 is now known as nas 20:21 < juancarlos> como estamos? 20:21 -!- YE|84-85SWIO is now known as YE|BRB 20:22 < Amqui> esta buene 20:22 < Amqui> y tu? 20:22 < Bradford> o_O 20:22 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:23 -!- Bradford is now known as anderson 20:24 -!- nas is now known as zz_nas 20:24 -!- anderson [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:25 -!- anderson [kvirc@181-182-122-129.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:25 -!- anderson is now known as Bradford 20:25 -!- Bradford [kvirc@181-182-122-129.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has quit [Changing host] 20:25 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:26 -!- Bradford is now known as anderson 20:26 -!- Everz [znc_efnet@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:1a1d] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:26 < juancarlos> Everz: Hi. 20:26 < juancarlos> The first step would be to undo those edits and to post on that specific user's talk page. 20:27 < juancarlos> If at that point it happens again (with no traction on the user's talk page) you could post on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COIN 20:27 -!- anderson [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Client Quit] 20:28 < Everz> allright, as i said on teh other chan. Im not experienced at all in the workings of wikipedia, i just think it reaked of personal oppionion, I checked some dictators pages, and they came off as better guys 20:29 < juancarlos> Hah. You could just remove any of that language you think is opinion. 20:29 < juancarlos> It's kind of the norm to be bold (in editing articles), then someone can revert, then discussion happens. 20:29 < Everz> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fjordman&action=history 20:29 < Everz> as you can see, it seems to get re-added by the same guy 20:30 < Everz> after someone removes it 20:30 -!- detharonil [~detharoni@unaffiliated/detharonil] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:31 -!- EvilSon [~nonya@unaffiliated/skater-2015/x-9635647] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:31 < Everz> Im sure you have thousands of pages that are more important than this, but my main objective was to see if i could report it somehow and get an experienced guy to look it over 20:32 < juancarlos> i can look in a moment. 20:34 < closedmouth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOVN 20:34 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:34 < juancarlos> ty cm. 20:34 < Everz> Just checked the norwegian version too, for some reason the death toll of Anders Behring breivik ( terrorist in norway) is listed in teh second paragraf. It all seems a bit odd 20:34 < Everz> Seeing as this guy had no involvement 20:35 < Everz> Beyond Breivik reading his blogs 20:35 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:36 -!- Swob [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has quit [Quit: bed] 20:40 -!- Beria [~Beria@wikimedia/Beria] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:42 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Quit: GorillaWarfare] 20:46 -!- YE|BRB is now known as YE 20:46 -!- harej [~quassel@static-68-239-82-231.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:46 -!- harej [~quassel@static-68-239-82-231.res.east.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 20:46 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:48 -!- detharonil [~detharoni@unaffiliated/detharonil] has left #wikipedia-en [] 20:50 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Quit: !] 20:53 -!- YuviPanda [~YuviPanda@yuvipanda.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [Changing host] 20:53 -!- YuviPanda [~YuviPanda@mediawiki/yuvipanda] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:55 -!- closedmouth [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:56 -!- closedmouth [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:01 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:02 -!- armufox [~armucat@ip70-180-86-176.no.no.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:04 -!- rr0 [~rr0@wikipedia/ruslik0] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:04 -!- armufox [~armucat@ip70-180-86-176.no.no.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:08 -!- kelapstick [ca83e93b@wikipedia/Kelapstick] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:16 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:19 -!- jeffreyio [~sbrcio@ip70-190-254-163.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:23 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:30 -!- ScottSteiner [ScottStein@wikipedia/ScottSteiner] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:33 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:35 -!- Moe_Epsilon [~David@wikimedia/Moe-Epsilon] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:35 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:35 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Quit: User has quit this network.] 21:43 -!- YuviPanda is now known as zz_YuviPanda 21:44 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:45 -!- sdamashek [~Vacation9@wikipedia/Vacation9] has quit [Quit: sleep] 21:51 < mareklug> wctaiwan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp-uEwfqb9Y Suzanne Vega "My Favorite Plum" the homemade video takes off hte sexual edge. 21:53 < wctaiwan> mareklug: slightly creepy. 21:53 < wctaiwan> both the song and the video, really. 21:53 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:53 < mareklug> i was searching for the incomarable acoustic-like version from her recent reissues, it is magnificent. I have it on my computer but I cannot find it streaming. do you have spotify? 21:54 < wctaiwan> nope 21:54 < wctaiwan> no spotify here 21:54 * IDoH likes a few of Suzanne Vegas' songs 21:54 < mareklug> it's on Close-Up Vol. 3, States Of Being 21:54 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: wat] 21:55 < mareklug> IDoH did you watch the plum thing upstairs? 21:55 * IDoH just clicked on the link. ;-) 21:56 < IDoH> Oh, nice song. 21:58 < mareklug> wctaiwan i feel generous -- IDoH, wctaiwan pm me your emails 21:58 < IDoH> Didn't I reply to an email of yours', mareklug? 21:58 < IDoH> Oh well 21:58 < mareklug> yes, i have it, but this is an acceptance of a gift 21:58 -!- ChrisGualtieri [ae3ebae3@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:59 < IDoH> Oh. Uhm. Okay. 22:00 < juancarlos> I just might rant about stupid people who post on craigslist. 22:00 < IDoH> Be our guest, juancarlos. 22:00 < juancarlos> If you're going to post two pictures, why would they be almost exactly alike? 22:00 < IDoH> No idea. 22:00 < wctaiwan> spot-the-difference game? 22:00 < IDoH> LOL 22:01 -!- kelapstick is now known as kelapstick|afk 22:01 < juancarlos> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/fuo/3774467143.html :///// 22:01 < IDoH> The angle is different 22:01 < juancarlos> it's negligible! why post the second one? 22:02 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@5.67.205.196] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:02 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@5.67.205.196] has quit [Changing host] 22:02 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@wikimedia/MTC] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:03 < wctaiwan> that looks like a comfy couch though. 22:05 -!- Elduen [~elduen@unaffiliated/andorin] has quit [Quit: I'm the greatest pirate-hunter in the world! 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(not that i'm super smart!) 22:57 < juancarlos> change? 22:57 < mareklug> juancarlos there are still very knowledgable electronically minded do-it-yourselfers working there. 22:57 < mareklug> people who solder things 22:57 < mareklug> Amqui it's "dollars and cents" first of all". do you want slang? 22:58 < Amqui> no 22:58 < Amqui> maybe "division" would be a good word 22:58 < mareklug> liquid assets 22:58 < juancarlos> denominations, Amqui 22:58 < Amqui> there we go 22:58 < Amqui> I like that one 22:58 < Amqui> thanks 22:58 < juancarlos> np 22:58 < mareklug> denominations is the quanta that money is issued in, for fuck's sake 22:59 < mareklug> 2 : a value or size of a series of values or sizes (as of money) 23:00 < mareklug> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/denomination 23:00 < Amqui> isn't it what I asked for mareklug? 23:00 < mareklug> not to me. 23:00 < Amqui> "a value (as of money)"... 23:00 < mareklug> but if it flicks your bick, bless your heart. 23:00 < Amqui> Amqui said " the different value of coin and paper money (" 23:00 < mareklug> a value sounds like a sum of money or some buying power or even Gross National Product of a country. :/ 23:01 < YuviPanda> legoktm: yeah, that seems to have a fair bit of competition ;) 23:01 < mareklug> the question was a bit misleadingly put, Amqui 23:01 < Amqui> no I meant the value of each 23:01 < Amqui> if not I wouldn't have use "coins and paper money" but would have only said "the value of money" 23:01 < legoktm> YuviPanda: :/ 23:02 < Amqui> and wouldn't have listed different existing denominations in brackets 23:02 < Amqui> XD 23:02 < mareklug> anyway, denomination works. for banknotes, bill also works. for coins, coin works. :) 23:02 < juancarlos> Amqui: what is your native language? 23:02 < Amqui> French 23:03 < juancarlos> ah. 23:03 < mareklug> surely there is denominacion in French or very near to that 23:03 < juancarlos> je ne etudia a français 23:03 < juancarlos> or something. 23:03 < juancarlos> etudie 23:03 < Amqui> mareklug in French we say "coupure" as I already mentioned 23:04 < mareklug> "The word comes from the french verb couper which means to cut." 23:04 < Amqui> in the way "that's where they put the cut-off in the "scale of money" to put a new denomination" 23:04 < Amqui> if you want 23:05 < Amqui> juancarlos maybe... 23:05 < Amqui> :P 23:05 < YuviPanda> legoktm: talking to apergos is the key here, I think :) 23:05 < legoktm> yeah :D 23:05 < mareklug> Amqui https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=nT#auto/fr/denomination 23:06 < SigmaWP> Amqui: Native speaker? 23:06 < mareklug> Valeur Nominale 23:06 < SigmaWP> juancarlos: you forgot 'pas' 23:06 < mareklug> dénomination 23:06 < mareklug> 23:06 < mareklug> catégorie 23:06 < SigmaWP> Amqui: Oh, I scrolled up 23:06 < SigmaWP> Yay! 23:06 < juancarlos> we get a lot of latinate words from french, marek :P 23:07 < juancarlos> they kind of took over England for a while and the languages mixed a bit. 23:07 < mareklug> juancarlos yes, I know that. They came with the Normands. 23:07 < dtm> hi guys. i'm doing a biography about someone who has done some interviews located on youtube. it would seem that i need to transcribe the relevant speech into text, and do {{cite av media | url=http://youtube... | time=01:21 | quote=I like peas. }} right? 23:07 < Amqui> mareklug valeur nominale works too, but for a specific one 23:07 < SigmaWP> Amqui: How do you say "Nobody was there" in French? 23:08 < SigmaWP> dtm: yep 23:08 < Amqui> "personne n'était là" 23:08 < mareklug> surely dénomination works too? perhaps more so in Europe 23:08 < SigmaWP> Thanks 23:08 < Amqui> mareklug no, coupure is the common term 23:08 < mareklug> Amqui surely there are differences between Canadian French and Parisian 23:08 < SigmaWP> wareThere are 23:08 < SigmaWP> mareklug: There are 23:08 < dtm> SigmaWP: word. bonus: many of the interviews were done by generally reliable sources like professional interviewers, so the content is likely to remain durable and will not be later annotated with "BUTTS" all over the screen or something 23:09 < mareklug> http://www.linternaute.com/dictionnaire/fr/definition/denomination/ 23:09 -!- xD [kvirc@181-182-122-129.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:10 < Amqui> mareklug ... no mention of money on that page... ? 23:10 -!- xD is now known as Guest72617 23:10 -!- Guest72617 is now known as Bradford 23:10 < mareklug> so it is a false friend, financially! it only has to do with fucking religion 23:10 < SigmaWP> mareklug: For example, "fuck it" in French French is "on s'en branle", but in Quebecian French it's "laissez faire" 23:10 -!- Bradford [kvirc@181-182-122-129.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has quit [Changing host] 23:10 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:10 < Amqui> in French "dénomination" means "the name given to something" 23:10 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:10 < Amqui> or "how something is called" 23:11 < juancarlos> makes sense. 23:11 < mareklug> that is one of the main meanings, not the only one. 23:11 < juancarlos> de = of/from nomation = named 23:12 < Amqui> nom = name 23:12 < mareklug> "Le 26 juillet 1931, le mouvement adventiste des États-Unis, lancé en 1879, prend la dénomination de Témoins de Jéhovah." <-- clearly denomination in the sense what kind of religious subgrop of Christianity 23:12 < Amqui> no 23:12 < mareklug> which is like in English 23:12 < Amqui> démonition as in taking the name of "Témoins de Jéhovah" 23:12 < mareklug> "Christian denomination" 23:12 < Amqui> dénomination 23:12 < Amqui> no 23:12 < Amqui> that sentence means "took the name Témoins de Jéhovah" 23:13 < mareklug> prend = took 23:13 < Amqui> yes 23:13 -!- anderson [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:13 -!- Emufarmers [emufarmers@mediawiki/Emufarmers] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:13 < Amqui> dénomination is a synonym of name 23:13 < Amqui> in French 23:14 < mareklug> or designation. 23:14 < Amqui> yes that one too 23:14 < Amqui> in French we are not happy until we have 10 words to say the same thing XD 23:14 -!- Hahc21 [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:15 < mareklug> but hte French has borrowed, too. our article in Wictionary says so: http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/dénomination 23:16 < mareklug> see, I was RIGHT on this one at least. 23:16 < Amqui> what? 23:16 -!- Bradford is now known as anderson 23:16 < mareklug> (Religion) (Anglicisme) Mouvement, branche ou sous-groupe à l'intérieur d’une religion qui opère sous un nom, une tradition, et une identité. 23:16 < mareklug> L’Église protestante d’Algérie est une dénomination chrétienne algérienne fondée en 1972 par l’union de plusieurs petites églises réformées déjà présentes dans le pays. 23:16 < mareklug> L’église Lakewood Church est une congrégation protestante évangélique sans dénomination. 23:16 < mareklug> L’Église méthodiste unie est la plus grande dénomination méthodiste. 23:17 < Amqui> this is an "Anglicisme" 23:17 < Amqui> in French we should say "congrégation" for that 23:17 < mareklug> as I said, borrowed from English language. just liek we do from French. the fucking word soigné for example. 23:17 < Amqui> let me add that :P 23:18 < mareklug> we also say congregation. but the fact is that a congregation, to be precise, belongs to a denomination. it is a particular/general group kind of deal 23:18 < Amqui> we don't need that word in French anyway 23:18 -!- techman224 [~techman22@Wikimedia/Techman224] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 23:18 < Amqui> we all sticked to catholicism :P 23:18 < mareklug> but you just said that the French use 10 words to be happy. 23:18 < mareklug> Amqui you are now trolllllllllling. 23:18 < Amqui> not more than you 23:19 < Amqui> :P 23:19 < Amqui> I like to troll trolls :P 23:19 < mareklug> no, I am trying to show that the French borrow our culture in language too. 23:19 < mareklug> they probably say computer. 23:19 < mareklug> and internet 23:19 < Amqui> we don't say computer 23:19 < mareklug> and meme 23:19 < Amqui> but I don't know what you need to show, half the word when I speak French are in English 23:20 < mareklug> the sentences about church denominations from the wictionary show it amply, that that use has taken root. 23:20 < Amqui> yes, but it still wrong 23:20 < mareklug> Le Academie might be unhappy, but then we have french fries. 23:21 < Amqui> L'Académie had no authority outside France 23:21 < Amqui> has* 23:21 < mareklug> when we are pissed at the French, we call them freedom fries, which is really idiotic. 23:21 -!- YE [~chatzilla@ip70-180-214-180.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 23:21 < YuviPanda> legoktm: i'm going to disappear again 23:21 < YuviPanda> good luck on GSoC :) 23:21 < YuviPanda> <3 23:22 -!- YuviPanda is now known as zz_YuviPanda 23:22 < Emufarmers> Would anyone mind taking a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Polarscribe_.28again.29_reported_by_User:De728631_.28Result:_1_week.29 ? 23:24 < Amqui> lol all that for that... http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLang/Mi%27kmaq_Currency 23:27 -!- zz_YuviPanda is now known as YuviPanda 23:28 -!- YuviPanda is now known as zz_YuviPanda 23:34 -!- anderson is now known as Bradford 23:35 -!- Chenzw [~chenzw@wikimedia/Chenzw] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:37 < russavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Estlandia ahhhhh EEML we meet again-- do these clowns not realise how transparent they are 23:38 -!- SuicidalZerg [~nnscript@wikipedia/The-Thing-That-Should-Not-Be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:38 -!- Mkdw_ [~Mkdw@d207-216-143-248.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:41 -!- SuicidalZerg [~nnscript@wikipedia/The-Thing-That-Should-Not-Be] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:44 -!- IDoH [~IDoH@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 23:47 -!- Bradford is now known as anderson 23:47 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:48 < russavia> mareklug -- http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Air/Boeing-KC-135R-Stratotanker/1127957/ -- this is the only photo i can find 23:49 -!- anderson is now known as XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 23:49 < mareklug> of the very plane 23:49 -!- kelapstick|afk is now known as kelapstick 23:49 < russavia> yeah 23:49 < mareklug> there won't be an article you know, unless it is super weird for some other notable reason. it's a military crash. 23:50 < russavia> and that one -- http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6240565&nseq=0 23:51 < russavia> were all killed? there's reports of parachuting out? 23:51 -!- XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD is now known as AliciaFerrer 23:53 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:54 -!- AliciaFerrer is now known as Bradford 23:55 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 23:56 < mareklug> no one knows for sure, and the Merkins are not even saying if 3 were flying or 5 and some even said 7. 23:56 < mareklug> but there were shoots coming down, but maybe empty? 23:57 -!- Bradford is now known as anderson 23:57 < mareklug> it's kind of suspicious that a tanker would ignite in mid air. 23:57 < mareklug> right after start though. 23:57 < Jetro> mareklug I'd hire you as my bodyguard. 23:57 < Jetro> You're always awake 23:57 < Jetro> :D 23:57 < mareklug> I should be sleeping. 23:57 < Jetro> Bodyguards don't sleep. 23:57 < Jetro> Here's a 1 $ tip 23:58 < mareklug> that does not even cover an MP3 from amazon 23:58 < Jetro> no but you love tipping in America 23:58 < Jetro> so there you go 23:58 < Jetro> :| 23:59 < mareklug> we actaully hate measly tippers --- Log closed Sat May 04 00:00:09 2013