User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2012-08-09

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00:10 < Neutralhomer> Any admins available?  Got a problem editor I need taken care of ASAP.
00:10 < Mdann52> What have they done?
00:11 < Neutralhomer> Trolling for starters...
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04:07 < Hole1n0ne> anyone here?
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04:07 < Seddon> ummm
04:08 < Seddon> yes
04:08 < Seddon> but
04:08 < Seddon> now your not
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04:09 < jubo2> Cheezy meatpie!
04:10  * jubo2 is having tech troubles - software not getting configured properly
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04:10 < jubo2> Why oh Why cannot we have a CTO for 0€, as we have no CTO it's me who has to h4x the confuguring servers and services
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04:25 < Qcoder02> jubo2: Are you radical?
04:26  * BlastHardcheese hax jubo2
04:27 < jubo2> I'm doing a bad job at getting Nagios configured properly
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04:28 < jubo2> Qcoder02: radical comes from gr,"radix icix" ( en."by the roots" IIAMNM )
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04:41 < BlastHardcheese> excellent, dude
04:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> [2012-08-09, 13:28:08] <jubo2> Qcoder02: radical comes from gr,"radix icix" ( en."by the roots" IIAMNM )
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04:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> does that mean tony is so radical that he avoided that remark?
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05:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> The sidaway has arrived
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05:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway your connection absolutely sucks today
05:26 < lineinthesand> In a wikipedia article: is an svg image preferred over a png image?
05:26 < foks> Yes.
05:27 < lineinthesand> OK.
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05:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> lineinthesand depends
05:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> is the svg verison better?
05:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if it is identical svg is better sure
05:30 < lineinthesand> I exported a png from inkscape
05:30 < lineinthesand> Then the idea occurred to me that I could upload an svg too.
05:31 < lineinthesand> Unfortunately only after I had uploaded the png already.
05:31 < Tony_Sidaway_> Eh oh. I'm using the Swedish shell account and (I'd forgotten about) this ancient Android connection from last night.
05:32 < foks> lineinthesand, we can have both, it's just SVGs on pages reduce the load time
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05:33 < foks> I think that's the reason for then.
05:33 < Tony_Sidaway_> I was trying to install a sasl module for irssi in the cjb account but it's being a bugger.
05:34 < Tony_Sidaway_> Actually svgs also scale better. For logos and whatnot they're much better than raster images.
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05:36 < Tony_Sidaway_> Raster graphics was regarded as very inferior back when I was a young programmer. All the best stuff was expensive and rather slow CRT vector graphics.
05:37 < Tony_Sidaway_> We even had colour plotters!
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05:37 < mareklug> calcomp
05:37 < Tony_Sidaway_> Yep
05:38 < ipatrol> Peter-C?
05:38 < foks> Tony_Sidaway_, [[Vectrex]]?
05:38 < foks> :)
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05:52 < Tony_Sidaway_> foks: yes, many of the best early coin operated console machines, including Asteroids and Battle Zone, had vector displays.
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05:53  * foks nods.
05:53 < foks> Unfortunately, I wasn't alive in the 80s.
05:54 < Tony_Sidaway_> I blame your parents.
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05:54 < foks> So do I, the swines.
05:54 < foks> :P
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05:55 < Tony_Sidaway_> Fire up the DeLorean. You know what to do.
05:59 < wctaiwan> dang it, why doesn't adobe sell an edu version of fireworks :(
05:59 < wctaiwan> I don't want all of them other fancy software.
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06:04 < foks> wctaiwan, I'll happy take it off your hands ;)
06:04 < wctaiwan> don't think that'd be legal :p
06:04 < wctaiwan> and anyway I haven't bought it yet
06:04 < wctaiwan> currently trying to see if something on the app store would do the trick
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06:07 < closedmouth> which one is fireworks? vector graphics?
06:07 < wctaiwan> web graphics.
06:08 < wctaiwan> illustrator is the vector editor for print design and stuff.
06:08 < closedmouth> oh
06:08 < closedmouth> seems very specific
06:08 < wctaiwan> on the contrary, it's more versatile.
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06:08 < wctaiwan> It does both bitmap and vector, though you could argue that it does neither particularly well
06:09 < mareklug> you know, creating demand
06:09 < The_Thing> I now listen to this song on repeat while I'm driving, full blast, with my windows down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIIpExVf-5I
06:09 < The_Thing> And I laugh at the odd looks people give me :p
06:10 < mareklug> there is nothing particularly ill-suited about photoshop and illustrator as sole tools for web graphics
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06:11 < foks> Listening to music full blast with your windows down does not make you cool
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06:14 < closedmouth> yeah it does
06:15 < wctaiwan> if by cool you mean incredibly obnoxious...
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06:17 < Pharos> which is the usual definition i think
06:22 < Seddon> i see an ipatrol
06:22 < lineinthesand> Btw. I suspect smoking weed (especially if done every day) to be detrimental to intelligence.
06:23 < Seddon> It is
06:23 < Seddon> I know from experience
06:23 < lineinthesand> I just know from this German guy named Hans Söllner.
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06:25 < lineinthesand> He released records over the years and the lyrics (which were quite funny in the beginning) became more stupid with every release...
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06:28 < foks> Sounds like Eminem.
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06:29 < lineinthesand> Oh well, got to go. Thanks for the advice concerning svgs!
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06:35 < foks> Does anyone here use vector?
06:35 < mareklug> i do
06:35 < foks> mareklug, how does one watchlist a page?
06:35 < foks> Is it that star icon thingy?
06:36 < mareklug> yes, c-alt-w
06:36 < foks> I'm not looking for the keyboard shortcut here
06:36 < foks> :P
06:36 < foks> so yeah, the star
06:36 < mareklug> but yes
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06:37 < mareklug> you know, if you mouseover it, it tells you :)
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06:39 < foks> mareklug, I don't use vector
06:39 < foks> I wasn't planning on switching to vector to see
06:39 < foks> :D
06:39 < wctaiwan> lol monobook >.>
06:40 < foks> Monobook 4 lyf
06:40 < foks> at least until Athena
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06:43 < mareklug> i just saw something weird:  an indirect free kick from within penalty box
06:45 < foks> That can happen... I forget what for though.
06:46 < wctaiwan> activist students are scary
06:46 < wctaiwan> :x
06:46 < foks> mareklug, oh, it's when the goalkeeper holds the ball for more than six seconds.
06:46 < foks> Or for passbacks
06:46 < foks> Like, not enough for a penalty
06:47 < mareklug> it wasn't that.  but i think the defender had the ball between her knees for a while
06:47 < foks> Oh, okay. deliberate obstruction then
06:47 < foks> Yeah, probably that
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06:47 < foks> Is this in the USA-Japan game?
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06:48 < foks> Or the Canada game?
06:48 < foks> (I think they're playing France, I can't remember)
06:48 < mareklug> fra-can.  can is so lucky.  woodwork x3
06:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if japan is involved there will be tentacles or takoyaki
06:49 < mareklug> and can scores.  90th minute, too
06:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> fra can punch you if you win
06:50 < mareklug> can was unlucky to lose to usa, so it's fair they win bronze
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06:51 < foks> Very good!
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06:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug USA was canned
06:51 < mareklug> canned?
06:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> or did USA can?
06:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you say Can was unlucky
06:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> *said
06:52 < foks> Tin Can.
06:52 < mareklug> isa canned can, rather
06:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> what you say
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06:52 < foks> Can you shush?
06:52 < foks> oh so many cans
06:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks that would be to die for
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07:02 < mareklug> usa has a grudge match for gold coming up against japan
07:02 < mareklug> http://bostonglobe.com/sports/2012/08/09/ioc-strip-tyler-hamilton-gold/m8H7lWD1fGaHnMg3jF7sKP/story.html   <-- here is a -1 gold for usa  of yore.  gotta adjust the wiki article.
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07:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug OMG
07:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> doping!
07:10 < Dusti> I need a crat
07:10 < Dusti> anyone around by chance?
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07:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you have a cat
07:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> not a crat
07:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :p
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07:14 < foks> WilliamH_UK, are you a crat?
07:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> he isnt MWUK :p
07:17 < Dusti> Is anyone from ArbCom around?
07:17 < Tony_Sidaway> Could someone confirm or deny my belief that the host nation of the Olympics gets let off some of the earlier rounds of competitions and thus tends to have an advantage?
07:17 < Tony_Sidaway> I don't know where I got this idea. My son says it's bollocks.
07:18 < Frood> omg it's Dusti
07:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway your son is quite british then
07:18 < Dusti> :) Hey Frood
07:18 < Tony_Sidaway> I find the UK performance in the Olympics otherwise inexplicable. We're a very small nation so statistically we can't possibly compete as well as say USA and China.
07:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway the host team has the advantage to practice at the vennue site
07:19 < foks> Tony_Sidaway, we are allowed to enter more athletes into events.
07:19 < foks> We don't need to qualify for them, like other nations do
07:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> also transportation of athletes is easier
07:19 < Tony_Sidaway> foks: thanks.
07:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks so UK can wear out the competition?
07:20 < foks> well, no
07:20 < Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: good point. They're not far from home and surrounded by foreigners (oh wait, that's the common condition of nearly all Londoners).
07:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I mean the british have paradropped their queen
07:20 < foks> the host nation still has to finish in a medal position, so it's not like we're being given the medals
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07:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so I dont think anything is beyond UK's reach
07:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> queen looked manly
07:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> probably due to the parachute
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07:22 < Tony_Sidaway> Well look at France. They've got about twice the population and London for them is a short train journey, but they're not doing at all well.
07:22 < foks> fucking stupid commentators
07:23 < foks> "Let's hope this routine lives up to the words of "hakuna matata" - no problems"
07:23 < foks> it means NO WORRIES
07:23 < foks> for the rest of your daaays
07:23 < Tony_Sidaway> I thought it was a made-up phrase from The Lion King.
07:23 < foks> It's swahili
07:24 < foks> it's a real idiom
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07:24 < foks> "It is not usually used in conversation." aww.
07:24 < foks> Also, it does mean "no problems". I apologise to that commentator.
07:24 < foks> Literally "there aren't problems"
07:25 < Tony_Sidaway> I thought I'd hate the Olympics, but actually it was okay. I just noticed they're nearly over.
07:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway they also have gotten downgraded
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07:26 < foks> Tony_Sidaway, I think it's only the Londoners who hate the Olympics.
07:26 < Tony_Sidaway> It was like the Royal Wedding. Unless you actually made an effort to tune your television set into the relevant programmes you didn't even notice any change.
07:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> train tickets may be unaffordable
07:26 < foks> Given they've got to commute through it.
07:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks if they work for the olympics I can see how that may be a problem
07:26 < Frood> I've never seen The Lion King.
07:26  * foks smites Frood
07:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Frood you havent seen much
07:27 < Tony_Sidaway> I'm a Londoner but actually the city always swells to twice its normal population during summer. So not much change really.
07:27 < foks> Tony_Sidaway, oh, okay.
07:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway do you normally get paradropped queen?
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07:27  * ToAruShiroiNeko proposes the queen be paradropped wherever she goes
07:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> even when changing rooms
07:27 < Tony_Sidaway> I like living in the place where, sooner or later, nearly everybody comes to visit.
07:27 < foks> Yeah I think you're placing this paradropped queen thing on a higher pedestal than the rest of the world, ToAruShiroiNeko.
07:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> probably
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07:28 < foks> Everyone in the UK stopped caring about twenty-four hours after
07:28 < Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: now I'm going to have to look at the article on the Olympic opening ceremony to see what you're talking about! :)
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07:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> https://www.google.com/search?q=queen+parachute&num=20&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ei=EskjUJa9AYnJhAfilYCAAg&ved=0CE8Q_AUoAw&biw=1920&bih=955
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07:30 < Tony_Sidaway> "The Queen was played by BASE jumper and stuntman Gary Connery, who wore a dress and hat identical to that worn by the Queen." Hurray. First ever transvestite Olympics.
07:30 < russavia> Wikipedians take to craigslist to hook up -- http://static.happyplace.com/assets/images/2012/07/4ffec39a93521.png
07:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway sure
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07:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway a sweet transvestite from Transexual, Transylvania
07:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> err
07:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway the jumper was just a sweet transvestite from Transexual, Transylvania
07:33 < Tony_Sidaway> Don't dream it, ToAruShiroiNeko , be it.
07:33  * Dusti raises hand and asks for a Bureaucrat again
07:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dusti why not use their noticeboard
07:34 < Frood> Dusti: you might be best asking at [[WP:BN]]
07:34  * Dusti goes
07:36 < WilliamH_UK> dusti what for?
07:37 < Dusti> something I need done
07:37 < Dusti> I also need an admin if one happens to be watching
07:38 < Frood> Dusti: WilliamH_UK is both an admin and a crat!
07:38 < Frood> and a checkuser
07:38 < Tony_Sidaway> Extraordinary. The description of a single 16-second sequence from the Olympic opening ceremory (Frankie and June say...thanks Tim (21:52.22:09)) is several hundred words, but scarcely seems to do justice to the sheer amount of action in the sequence. Must watch the show one day.
07:39 < Frood> and maybe oversight?
07:39 < WilliamH_UK> yes oversight too
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07:40 < Dusti> William's a little bit of everything
07:40 < Dusti> lol
07:40 < WilliamH_UK> I'm basically en.wiki's own steward :P
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07:40 < IRWolfie-> :>
07:40 < Ironholds> yo dawgs
07:40 < IRWolfie-> o/
07:40 < Dusti> Ironholds!!!
07:40 < Ironholds> hey IRWolfie-, Dusti
07:41 < IRWolfie-> (I should point out this is a wave: o/ )
07:41 < Dusti> XD
07:41 < IRWolfie-> It gets misinterpreted sometimes
07:41 < Ironholds> heh
07:41 < Ironholds> I got it :)
07:41 < Frood> Hi Ironholds.
07:41 < Ironholds> hey Frood!
07:41 < Frood> oh crap i have to leave in less than an hour
07:41 < Frood> bai.
07:42 < Ironholds> how goes it in t'IRC?
07:42 < Tony_Sidaway> This is a hoot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0vaQ0umiPI&feature=related
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07:42 < Ironholds> byee :)
07:42 < Ironholds> yo, wctaiwan
07:42 < ChrisGualtieri> Oh noes Ironholds is leaving?
07:42 < Tony_Sidaway> A massive occultist ritual :)
07:42 < wctaiwan> hey Ironholds.
07:42 < Ironholds> ChrisGualtieri: no, Frood
07:42 < wctaiwan> Tony_Sidaway: you mean Wikimania?
07:42  * wctaiwan runs
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07:43 < ChrisGualtieri> Ironholds: Hey can I bug you about an idea I have?
07:43 < Ironholds> hmn; nickserv will not let me register more than one nick. bleh.
07:43 < Ironholds> ChrisGualtieri: sure!
07:43 < wctaiwan> gah, bugbites galore.
07:44 < Tony_Sidaway> Nuclear attack on the Olympics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0vaQ0umiPI&feature=related
07:44 < Tony_Sidaway> The crazies are all at it.
07:44 < wctaiwan> Ironholds: whyever not? Just /nick to it and /nickserv group
07:45 < Tony_Sidaway> Apparently a series of cards issued by Steve Jackson Games in 1995 has predicted the future over and over again.
07:45 < IRWolfie-> wctaiwan: how many nicks are people allowed to hog?
07:45 < Ironholds> wctaiwan: point
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07:45 < wctaiwan> IRWolfie-: something like 5. I can't remember
07:45 -!- IRWolfie- is now known as IRWolfie
07:46 < Ironholds> oh, shit
07:46 < Ironholds> is today the 9th?
07:46 -!- IRWolfie is now known as IRWolfie-
07:46 < IRWolfie-> yep
07:46 < wctaiwan> yep.
07:46 < Ironholds> crap
07:46 < Ironholds> we have a deployment today.
07:46 < IRWolfie-> special day?
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07:46 < IRWolfie-> aha
07:46 < wctaiwan> which?
07:46 < Dusti> Apparently the Illuminati will attack too
07:46 < Dusti> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9JVHY4Vnds&feature=fvwrel
07:46 < Qcoder02> Tony_Sidaway:  Have you seen the logo for Rio?
07:47 < Qcoder02> It looks like 'Fat Boy' ?
07:47 < Ironholds> wctaiwan: you know how the page patrolling thing has both a list view like Special:NewPages, and will have a twinkle-esque toolbar?
07:47 < wctaiwan> I sort of recall.
07:47 < wctaiwan> Okay, I see. Thanks.
07:47 < IRWolfie-> Dusti: no doubt when it completely fails to materialize it will be claimed as further evidence of the nefarious illumanti: they are sneaky like that
07:48 < Ironholds> wctaiwan: the second one
07:48 < Dusti> *snort*
07:48 < Ironholds> we're deploying the curation toolbar
07:48 < Ironholds> in a very early form, admittedly
07:48 < wctaiwan> o_O I thought that was newer than the new NPP thing, but okay.
07:48 < Qcoder02> Ironholds: Would you also like a toolbar for admins that allows you trourt silly noobs?
07:48 < Qcoder02> *to trout
07:48 < Dusti> !trout Ironholds
07:49 < Dusti> :(
07:49 < Ironholds> Dusti: why?
07:49 < Dusti> I saw trout and ironholds
07:49 < Dusti> so I put it together
07:49 < Ironholds> Qcoder02: no.
07:49 < Dusti> but I don't exist... so you know
07:49 < Dusti> yolo
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07:52 < uwe> Hello, I need to remove blockage of a certain IP on wikipedia-ar
07:52 < wctaiwan> this channel is specific to enwiki, uwe
07:53 < wctaiwan> there appears to be a channel for the arabic one at #wikipedia-ar
07:53 < Dusti> hence the -en
07:53 < uwe> should i try at  #wikimedia-ops ?
07:53 < Dusti> no
07:53 < foks> no, that's for IRC operations
07:53 < Dusti> that's for chan ops
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07:53 < Dusti> you'll have to go to #wikipedia-ar
07:53 < uwe> yes, im there too , but there is no one there that can help
07:53 < Dusti> what's the block for?
07:54 < IRWolfie-> uwe: it's unlikely there is anyone relevant who can help you here
07:54 < uwe> it says open proxy, but has been blocked for months
07:54 < Dusti> proxy's generally remain blocked
07:54 < Dusti> for extended periods of time
07:54 < wctaiwan> what IRWolfie- said. I don't think most of us would be familiar with how blocks work on the arabic wikipedia.
07:54 < uwe> we did here wikipedia embassadors and now we have yet another workshop and we are blocked ... :S :S
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07:55 < Dusti> try the meta wiki with a global sysop
07:55 < Dusti> maybe they can help
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07:55 < uwe> Dusti: can you please point to me how to reach them ?
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07:56 < Dusti> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_sysops
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07:57 < uwe> thanks !
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07:59  * jc33 is a proxy-buster
08:00 < jc33> can someone pm me?
08:00 < jc33> nvm
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08:03 < foks> ?
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08:05 < Ironholds> jc33: thanks for the report of the WMF sock, btw.
08:06 < jc33> np
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08:10 < mattbuck> the wmf are socking now?
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08:10 < Frood> O_o
08:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> https://plus.google.com/104234302931579992973/posts
08:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Oh my!
08:11 < jc33> btw, do you have any idea who it is?
08:11 < wctaiwan> staffers are always socking.
08:11 < BobTheWikipedian> lol
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08:12 < Frood> I'm about to nominate one of the most watched articles for deletion... I assume the watch number is a bug because the article is awful and the person doesn't seem notable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Evans_%28British_author%29
08:12 < Frood> *I think I'm about to
08:13 < Frood> meh, later.
08:13 -!- Frood is now known as MarchingFrood
08:13 < foks> I hate george takei
08:14 < Fluffernutter> he hates you too
08:14 < jc33> only when he's in Soviet Russia.
08:14 < foks> all over my fucking facebook
08:14  * foks growls
08:14 < IRWolfie-> MarchingFrood: according to http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/watcher.py?page=Richard_Evans_%28British_author%29 they are mostly inactive watchers
08:15 < IRWolfie-> but yeah, that number is insanely high
08:16 < ChrisGualtieri> Doesn't have a claim of notability
08:16 < ChrisGualtieri> Probably won't pass GNG unless we dive in
08:16 < wctaiwan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4sOfO8Ei1g#t=32 what's this logo? It seems very familiar but I can't pinpoint it.
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08:18 < IRWolfie-> which logo?
08:19 < wctaiwan> the one at that point in the video, or rather immediately after, next to "the kids"
08:20  * Fluffernutter hates articles that use external links in the body
08:21 < wctaiwan> eh, just axe them. There's no reason for them in 99.97% of the cases.
08:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks Oh my!
08:21 < wctaiwan> I think that's what WP:EL recommends too.
08:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks you just dislike japanese space travelers :p
08:22 < IRWolfie-> it's being used as a reference but they messed it up
08:22 < Fluffernutter> foks hates everyone, he's just that badass
08:22 < foks> I dislike those plastering shit all over facebook
08:22 < foks> save it for reddit and that please
08:23 < IRWolfie-> aha, I see you got there before me
08:25 < IRWolfie-> lot of dead links
08:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks hmm
08:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> this is google+
08:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its meant to be for shit
08:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its not serious business like facebook
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08:40 < Tony_Sidaway> O
08:41 < benzband> (o___O) ?
08:41 < Fluffernutter> -1
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08:41 < Tony_Sidaway> I'm watching the Olympic opening ceremony now on BBC iPlayer. It's rather odd. As in famous playwright and engineer Isambard Kingdom Brunel declaiming a speech from his most famous play, The Tempest.
08:42 < mattbuck> it's a good ceremony
08:42 < wehwalt> In British English, is it reinvigorate or reinvigourate?
08:42 < mattbuck> the former
08:42 < benzband> <troll> reinvigoorate </troll>
08:42 < wehwalt> ok, thanks.  Thought so by the ghits
08:43 < Tony_Sidaway> The "our" stuff is from French. In the middle of a word, though, generally it's from the Latin root (-or).
08:43 < Tony_Sidaway> Actually that's bollocks. Favourite, not favorite. I give up.
08:43 < wehwalt> Thanks, I'm writing in British English and that's one I wasn't certain on
08:44 < benzband> the "sour grapes" stuff is from french? ^^
08:44 < wctaiwan> wehwalt: what for?
08:44 < wehwalt> Muhammad Ali Jinnah
08:44 < wctaiwan> benzband: hahaha
08:44 < wctaiwan> Oh, because the article uses British English?
08:44 < Tony_Sidaway> Isambard Kingdom Shakespeare now looks well pleased, having overseen the building of some dark satanic mills.
08:44 < wctaiwan> pff thought it was something more interesting :p
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08:45 < wehwalt> Well, it should, wasn't positive if there's a distinctive Indian/Pakistani spelling, but it's the most logical.  The article had a mix of styles
08:45 < wctaiwan> ah.
08:46 < wehwalt> I'm about half done, after that will be working on salvaging PumpkinSky's former FAs
08:46 < wctaiwan> Good luck.
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08:46 < wehwalt> thx.  I'd like to watch the Opening clear through too.  NBC doesn't offer it
08:47 < mattbuck> go torrent it then
08:47 < wehwalt> Don't do torrents
08:47 < wehwalt> I will be in the UK in November, maybe then if I have a spare four hours
08:48 < Ironholds> wehwalt: you will?
08:48  * Ironholds makes holiday plans, stat.
08:48 < wehwalt> Yes, from about November 4 - 11.
08:48 < Tony_Sidaway> Colonial English is a bit of a chimera of different spellings.
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08:50 < wehwalt> I figure enough people are watching the article I'll be corrected if I make any mistakes along that front.
08:52 < Tony_Sidaway> Brunel was basically French, anyway.
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08:52 < Tony_Sidaway> It's almost as bad as saying Alexander Graham Bell was American.
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08:55 < wehwalt> Well, reinvigorate it is then.  I just needed an alternative for "revive"
08:56 < Ironholds> revive in the moving-from-dead-to-alive context?
08:59 < Matthew_> Can I get some admin help for a histmerge, please?
08:59 < benzband> you could bribe Ironholds there
08:59 < Matthew_> Ironholds: Are you busy?
09:01 < Ironholds> I have a deployment today
09:01 < Ironholds> so, yes :)
09:02 < Matthew_> Darn...
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09:02 < Isarra> Where's petan when I need to pick someone's brains?
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09:03 < Ironholds> Isarra: spain
09:04 < Isarra> Dang.
09:04 < Isarra> Or something.
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09:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Isarra petan as far as I know is captured by spanish volunteers
09:07 < Isarra> So I need to kidnap someone else, eh?
09:08 < Matthew_> Is there an admin around that can do a histmerge for me please?
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09:09 < Isarra> Make me an admin and I'll do it.
09:09 < Isarra> Of course, the cost of that could be... huge.
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09:09  * Isarra wouldn't intentionally destroy the wiki, but...
09:09 < Matthew_> Heh,  would do it myself, but I don't have the admin bit either..
09:10  * Ironholds knows how to destroy the wiki with the admin bit
09:10 < mareklug> Irish woman wins gold in boxing, Ireland's first gold medal.
09:10  * Isarra knows how to destroy it without an admin bit.
09:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug so will you mess with irish women again?
09:10 < Isarra> But that at least is harder.
09:10 < mareklug> never
09:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they may punch you to see golden medals circling
09:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds I dont believe you
09:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> prove by demostrating
09:11 < Ironholds> delete template:!
09:11 < Ironholds> done.
09:11 < Ironholds> every. pipe. on enwiki. breaks.
09:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> not really
09:11 < Dusti> will there be flooding?
09:11 < Ironholds> and more importantly, pretty much every page and template empties its cache and needs to be refreshed.
09:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> a better method would be replacing {{!}} with goatse
09:12 < Dusti> I htink you should do more like mass delete a few users with massive edits
09:12 < Ironholds> ToAruShiroiNeko: it would die for the same reason
09:12 < Ironholds> Dusti: you cannae delete accounts
09:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes but far more disgruntled users
09:12 < Dusti> no no no - edits - not users
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09:12 < Dusti> Special:Nuke
09:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds you can with db access
09:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Drop users table, done
09:13 < Isarra> Which one?
09:13 < Isarra> There are several.
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09:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> drop all tables then
09:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> drop db
09:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the end of them wiki
09:16 < Isarra> Which database?
09:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> all
09:16 < Dusti> someone's obviously thought about killing the wiki ^
09:16 < Isarra> That's a few.
09:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ya
09:16 < Matthew_> Heh, there's an even easier way.
09:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dusti not really
09:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes pull the netowrk cable
09:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> dope server kitties
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09:17 < Matthew_> Have your web host delete your localsettings.php file because of a buffer overflow.  That way, there's no way the wiki is usable >.> (true story)
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09:17 < foks> Were is Chinese Taipei?
09:17 < foks> * Where
09:17 < Ironholds> foks: Taipei
09:18 < Ironholds> but the chinese get pissy if you call it Taipei
09:18 < foks> lol
09:18 < Ironholds> so for olympic purposes it has a different name, flag and anthem. which is dumb.
09:18 < foks> They have a pretty sweet-ass flag.
09:18 < Ironholds> cuz if we banned the chinese from participating we could be nice to taipei AND get more gold medals!
09:18 < mareklug> Taiwan.  the Chinese insisted it was called Chinese Taipei
09:18 < ipatrol> Because it's *Chinese* taipei
09:18 < foks> Oh.
09:19 < foks> So "Taiwan". XD
09:19 < ipatrol> only thing worse than socialist nationalists are national socialists
09:19 < foks> That would explain the Olympic rings in the flag.
09:20  * foks facepalms@self
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09:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks its taiwan
09:20 < foks> We've established that, yes.
09:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks actually that was incorrect
09:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its Republic of China
09:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> unlike People's Republic of China
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09:21 < foks> Same difference as far as I'm concerned
09:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> well
09:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> only one is a UN member
09:21 < Matthew_> foks: You got a second to do a histmerge?
09:21 < foks> yes
09:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks will merge your histories
09:22 < Matthew_> Awesome! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_weapons and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Heavy_weapons  need to be histmerged to the Articles for Creation page.
09:22 < mareklug> as far as Taiwan is concerned, also.  since some time ago ROC and Taiwan are officially synonyms
09:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ROC used to be a permanent member of the UNSC as well
09:22 < foks> Matthew_, huh?
09:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the only permanent members currently are the US and the UK
09:23 < foks> You want them merged to the Articles for Creation title?
09:23 < Matthew_> foks: Yes, please.
09:23 < wehwalt> US, UK, Russia, France, and China, actually
09:25 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko:  "There are 15 members of the Security Council, consisting of five veto-wielding permanent members—China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States—based on the great powers that were the victors of World War II,[1] and 10 elected non-permanent members with two-year terms."
09:25 < foks> Matthew_, there you go
09:25 < Matthew_> foks: Thank you.
09:25 < foks> No problem - it's a bit of a mess still.
09:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> wehwalt Russia France and China changed
09:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> USSR was the former member
09:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Whats today is Taiwan used to hold the title which was then given to whats commonly known as China
09:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> France changed as a country as well
09:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they used to own algeria IIRC
09:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> one of the northern african countries
09:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so you are left with US and UK
09:27 < mareklug> well USA used to own the Panama Canal Zone, for crying out loud
09:27 < wehwalt> ToAruShiroiNeko: France is smaller than it was, in its own mind, as it considered Algeria as part of Metropolitan France.  However, it's still the same Republic of France.
09:27 < ipatrol> and the Phillipines
09:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug yes but US constitution didnt get rebooted
09:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> France did
09:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> even their NATO membership was changed after the change
09:29 < wehwalt> I think we're talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Fifth_Republic#Origins
09:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yup
09:32 < mareklug> in int. law there is a concept of a successor state, so France and Russia easily fill their slots continuously.  The PRC for ROC is a real change.
09:33 < Qcoder02> The 5 permenant members are also the only declared nuclear weapons states
09:34 < mareklug> um, Pakistan declared that it has nuclear weapons.  Didn't India, as well?
09:34 < Qcoder02> 'declared' by virtue of a specfic treaty IIRC
09:34 < Qcoder02> which was made before India and Pakistan declared
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09:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> umm
09:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> france is a very late nuclear power
09:39 < mareklug> considering that radioactivity was discovered there….
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09:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug kind of irrelevant in terms of nuclear weapons
09:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> IMHO france was better of without having nukes
09:40 < mareklug> the English-speaking countries won all the gold medals in women's boxing: GBR, IRL, USA
09:41 < mysterytrey> What happened to the 100%s as RfA?
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09:55 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#History    <-- not so late comer to nukes as you let on
09:57 < Dusti> I need an admin - who's around
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09:58 < Dusti> WilliamH_UK?
09:58 < Mdann52> What do you need an admin for (btw, I'm not one)
09:59 < Dusti> I need a right restored
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10:02 < Mdann52> Have you got one yet?
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10:04 < WilliamH_UK> yup
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10:09 < BobTheWikipedian> it's all coming together now...
10:10 < BobTheWikipedian> employers clearly use their job application interface as a means for reducing the number of applications they have to actually review
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10:11 < mysterytrey> So getting board?
10:11 < mysterytrey> *bored
10:12 < BobTheWikipedian> bored can hardly describe it....frustrated, too
10:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am getting a board just because I am bored
10:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BobTheWikipedian why have people applying for jobs, firing is so much more fun for them
10:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> fire all staff and be done with it
10:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> and as a last action fire self
10:13 < BobTheWikipedian> between highly cryptic passwords, timeouts if you haven't got everything ready to attach, copy, and paste, general dysfunctionalities scattered about the application processes...it makes the recruiter's life easier to have fewer applicants
10:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> which is why companies do not get the best and the brightest
10:14 < BobTheWikipedian> exactly
10:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> and instead get the stubborn and bored
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10:14 < BobTheWikipedian> rather, they get the ones who have just enough patience to submit an application
10:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yup
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10:15 < BobTheWikipedian> which is why i stand such a good chance :D
10:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I think thats what I call stubborn
10:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BobTheWikipedian no way
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10:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they will probably hire BobTheWikimedian
10:15 < BobTheWikipedian> great. i've locked myself out of my disney careers account.
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10:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you are applying to disney?
10:16 < BobTheWikipedian> yes, to secure music copyrights
10:16 < BobTheWikipedian> licensing for music in films et cetera
10:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ah
10:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> nicw
10:16 < BobTheWikipedian> thanks :) got some small business experience there
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10:17 < BobTheWikipedian> and i figured, aw, why not see if i can get this?
10:18 < BobTheWikipedian> the only thing that stands in my way is the "forgot password" system malfunctioning
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10:18 < BobTheWikipedian> and apparently the "reset password" system, too
10:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BobTheWikipedian well you shouldnt have forgotten it
10:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> trhy 12345
10:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> *try
10:18 < BobTheWikipedian> lol i tried all of them i could think of
10:18 < BobTheWikipedian> i think i've been locked out for good
10:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> call them?
10:19 < BobTheWikipedian> hmmm. not sure whether to call disney, kenexa, or brassring
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10:20 < mysterytrey> You should apply to be mickey mouse.
10:20 < mysterytrey> I have no clue why the fuck I just said that, but I did.
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10:24 < BobTheWikipedian> in the 2008 election, mickey mouse got a record high number of votes for president
10:24 < BobTheWikipedian> his own personal record that is
10:24 < BobTheWikipedian> i believe i learned this from wikipedia
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10:28  * Peter-C waddles around
10:30 < BobTheWikipedian> "In Nevada, 6,251 votes were cast for "None Of These Candidates".[215] In the three states that officially keep track of "blank" votes for President, 103,193 votes were recorded as "blank".[216] More than 100,000 write-in votes were cast and recorded for a scattering of other candidates, including 62 votes for "Santa Claus" (in ten states) and 11 votes for "Mickey Mouse" (in five states).[217]"
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10:31 < BobTheWikipedian> santa claus for prez :D
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10:33 < mysterytrey> Or... Barack Obama for {{subst:santa clauses job decription}}
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10:36 < mysterytrey> We should so make that a template.
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10:36 < Apheori> I love you guys.
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10:37 < Ironholds> of course you do, we rock
10:37 < Apheori> Indeed.
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10:38 < BarkingFish> evening dudes
10:38 < Apheori> G'day.
10:38 < BobTheWikipedian> good afternoon
10:39 < Peter-C> Sup
10:39 < BarkingFish> sky
10:39 < Apheori> My eyeballs hurt.
10:39 < BobTheWikipedian> mornings are so long, afternoons and evenings are short. what's up with that. :P
10:39 < Peter-C> Apheori - lemme take a look
10:39  * Apheori punches Peter-C.
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10:39  * Peter-C pulls out Apheori’s eye and looks
10:40 < Apheori> Stay the hell away from me.
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10:40  * Peter-C eats Apheori eye
10:40 < BarkingFish> BobTheWikipedian, not a clue.  I guess the evenings are getting longer this side of the planet, thanks to british summer time... I wonder what days and nights would be like if we didn't move the clocks...
10:40 < mysterytrey> Is that a new fetish?
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10:41 < Apheori> BarkingFish: Less confusing.
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10:41 < BobTheWikipedian> clocks mean nothing except that you are late getting somewhere
10:41 < BarkingFish> Apheori, yeah - i mean what would they be like in respect of periods of daylight/darkness
10:41 < Apheori> Oh.
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10:42 < Apheori> Bob's right.
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10:42 < BobTheWikipedian> there. finally got my reset password email :P
10:42 < BarkingFish> at the moment, once our clocks go forward, the day seems to get longer up to a certain point, then shorter once we're past it (June 21st i think is what they call the longest day)
10:43 < BarkingFish> then once they go back, by around 3 or 4pm it's getting dark.
10:43 < BarkingFish> it's a pain in the ass, and I wish we didn't do it :)
10:43 < Apheori> I find having my clocks set to a completely arbitrary and non-applicable timezone helps remove illusions of DST and the like helping.
10:44 < BobTheWikipedian> actually, i was referring to how mornings are like 11 hours, afternoons are 6 hours, and evenings are 7 hours
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10:44 < Apheori> Mornings are 12 hours.
10:44 < Peter-C> James_F - Where’s my visual editor
10:44 < Apheori> They overlap with night.
10:44 < BobTheWikipedian> i don't consider 12 - 12:59 morning
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10:44 < BarkingFish> BobTheWikipedian, I suppose that's subjective. I consider it to be any time after midnight is morning, since the clock reverts to AM
10:45 < Apheori> Well you SHOULD!
10:45 < Apheori> Because magical fairies.
10:45 < BobTheWikipedian> midnight in the morning?
10:45 < BarkingFish> so midnight to 11.59am is morning
10:45 < Apheori> Why not?
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10:45 < Qcoder02> Hi barkingFish
10:45 < BobTheWikipedian> i've never heard someone say "it's 12 o'clock in the morning"
10:45 < Qcoder02> PM
10:45 < BarkingFish> hi Qcoder02
10:45 < Apheori> But either way there's overlap.
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10:45 < Apheori> Some overlap with afternoon and evening, too, but much less.
10:46 < Apheori> BobTheWikipedian: I have,
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10:46 < Apheori> .
10:46 < BobTheWikipedian> yeah, afternoon vs. evening gets debatable around 4, 5
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10:47 < Ironholds> BobTheWikipedian: in the UK, we say that all the time
10:47 < Ironholds> 12 in the morning or 12 in the evening
10:47 < Ironholds> to distinguish
10:47 < BobTheWikipedian> which is which?
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10:47 < BobTheWikipedian> is noon evening?
10:47 < Ironholds> 12 in the morning is the hour after 11am, 12 in the evening is midnight
10:47 < Ironholds> because we're a contrary folk
10:47 < BobTheWikipedian> :D
10:47 < BobTheWikipedian> makes sense
10:47 < Apheori> Whereas here we do it the other way around.
10:47 < BarkingFish> Ironholds, then I'm contrary to you :)
10:48 < BarkingFish> As I always pretty much have been
10:48 < Apheori> Frankly neither make much sense.
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10:48  * BobTheWikipedian agrees with apheori
10:48 < Peter-C> James_F - vistual editor
10:48 < Peter-C> hand it over
10:48 < Ironholds> Peter-C, do me a favour?
10:48 < Apheori> But that's a what the hell kind of arbitrary number is 12 problem, at least for me.
10:48 < Ironholds> appreciate that James has, at best, been work for two hours
10:48 < Ironholds> and has shit to do
10:48 < foks> James' connection is clearly a little bit shit at the moment
10:48 < Ironholds> and shut up ;p
10:48 < BobTheWikipedian> calling anything morning after 11:59 seems odd...and anything before 5 being evening seems odd
10:48 < BarkingFish> AM to me is morning, regardless of the time.  If it's 12.05AM, I say it's five past twelve in the morning
10:48 < Peter-C> :p
10:49 < BarkingFish> and 12.05AM is 00:05
10:49 < Apheori> Morning is also just relative to perception.
10:49 < Qcoder02> Afternoon Peter-C
10:49 < Peter-C> hi
10:49 < Qcoder02> Peter-C:  Uo for a triva question?
10:49 < Apheori> If the sun went down at 3 in the afternoon, it ws probably already evening.
10:49 < Peter-C> naw
10:49 < BobTheWikipedian> the t.v. guide says morning and evening are 7 to 11:59, afternoon and late night are 12 to 6:59
10:49 < Apheori> And if you got up at 3 in the afternoon, you might call that morning too.
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10:50 < Apheori> Now if we could all just start using 24-hour spans to define our hours, you know how much that would simplify things?
10:50 < Apheori> 24 is a stupid number, but still.
10:50 < BobTheWikipedian> we should have 25 hours
10:51 < foks> ...why
10:51 < BobTheWikipedian> more wikipedia time
10:51 < Apheori> 25 is more stupid.
10:51 < BobTheWikipedian> 27?
10:51 < Ironholds> lets open a request for comment on altering the number of hours in a day
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10:51 < Ironholds> everyone knows if it's on Wikipedia, it must be true
10:51 < Qcoder02> 24 is used because it has a lot of useufl factors
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10:51 < Qcoder02> ;)
10:52 < Ironholds> ergo we can alter THE VERY FABRIC OF TIME ITSELF MUAHAHAH
10:52 < Peter-C> D:
10:52 < Qcoder02> Ironholds:   You are the Master ?
10:52 < Qcoder02> XD
10:52 < Apheori> Exactly.
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10:53 < Peter-C> James_F needs to buy a proper connection
10:53 < BobTheWikipedian> this is all reminiscent of indiana's bill that nearly passed which would have mandated teachers in schools teach any of three inaccurate ways for calculating the value of pi
10:53 < Ironholds> Peter-C: he's at the office
10:53 < Peter-C> You need better connection in the office then
10:53 < Apheori> BobTheWikipedian: Wikipedia is bigger!
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10:53 < BobTheWikipedian> :D
10:53 < BobTheWikipedian> les duit!
10:53 < BarkingFish> You want to be thankful you don't live in a Swahili speaking area of the world, Apheori and BobTheWikipedian - just like I'm thankful. The way they tell time is utterly weird.
10:53 < Qcoder02> Apheroi: Bigger than Jesus?
10:53 < Qcoder02> XD
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10:54 < Ironholds> Qcoder02: nice pop culture reference
10:54 < BobTheWikipedian> i could live on zulu time though barkingfish
10:54 < BarkingFish> Try this as an example:  The day starts from sunrise, not from midnight.
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10:54 < Peter-C> James_F - buy better interwebs
10:54 < Ironholds> BobTheWikipedian: I *do* live on zulu time
10:54 < BobTheWikipedian> i heard the beatles were officially pardoned recently for that
10:54 < BarkingFish> So what we would call 6AM, on the swahili clock is 12.00 - 7AM is 1.00 on the Swahili clock - 1 hour after sunrise.
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10:55 < Qcoder02> Do you mean a pardon? Or do you mean given a remission?
10:55 < BobTheWikipedian> zulu time plus british summer time, yes
10:55 < Ironholds> (for the uninitiated; using the NATO phonetic alphabet, zulu is used to represent UTC)
10:55 < Ironholds> BobTheWikipedian: indeed
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10:55 < BobTheWikipedian> like the pope forgave them for it
10:55 < Qcoder02> Oh
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10:55 < BarkingFish> So at 11.05 in the morning, if you asked the time, I would tell you it was 5.05
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10:56 < BarkingFish> Now that just utterly fucks with my brain
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10:56 < BobTheWikipedian> it is 5:57 zulu time :)
10:56 < BobTheWikipedian> guess what time it is in evansville
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10:56 < BarkingFish> 11.57AM?
10:56 < BobTheWikipedian> nope
10:57 < BarkingFish> I'm trying to think... which state is Evansville in?
10:57 < BobTheWikipedian> GMT -5
10:57 < BobTheWikipedian> indiana
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10:57 < BobTheWikipedian> indiana is on GMT -6/-6
10:57 < BobTheWikipedian> oops -6/-5
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10:57 < BobTheWikipedian> and actually that is also wrong
10:57 < BarkingFish> 12.57 then?
10:57 < BobTheWikipedian> yes
10:58 < BobTheWikipedian> indiana is on GMT -4/-5 and -6/-5. two time zones.
10:58 < BarkingFish> 0.o how the fuck do you manage that?  You cross 2 US time zones?
10:59 < BobTheWikipedian> i live practically on the time zone border
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10:59 < Amasome> helo
10:59 < BobTheWikipedian> when there's an event going on around here, it's either "evansville time" or "jasper time"
10:59 < BarkingFish> Damn, BobTheWikipedian - that must get confusing
10:59 < Qcoder02> Amasome: Please state your name and clearance level
10:59 < Qcoder02> ;)
11:00 < BobTheWikipedian> the poor folks in dale can't remember whether they're on evansville or jasper, though :(
11:00 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - how is the job hunt
11:00 < BobTheWikipedian> :P slow. but thanks for asking :)
11:00 < Peter-C> Ever hear back from Sony?
11:01 < BobTheWikipedian> nope. forgot i even applied there.
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11:01 < BobTheWikipedian> YAY finally got logged into the disney career center.
11:02 < BobTheWikipedian> disney, say hello to persistant stubbornness! perfect ingredient for music copyright clearance!
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11:03 < mysterytrey> Was your password 54321curiousityrover ?
11:03 < BobTheWikipedian> no
11:03 < mysterytrey> Darn.
11:03 -!- dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has joined #wikipedia-en
11:03 < mysterytrey> I should make that my nickserv password.
11:03 < BobTheWikipedian> that doesn't contain one of the following symbols: ~!@#$%^&*()_+=-`[]\{}|;':",./<>?
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11:04 < mysterytrey> Was it Ç╩ÿ81MJ◄1
11:04 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - work at Hooters
11:05 < Peter-C> They make good wings there
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11:05 < BobTheWikipedian> illegal characters, trey lol
11:05 < BobTheWikipedian> haha ptere
11:05 < BobTheWikipedian> peter too
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11:07 < Peter-C> Oh for shit sake
11:07 < Peter-C> Shooting yourself with lightning will kill you and your hear and make it unviable for transplant
11:08 < BobTheWikipedian> *hair?
11:08 < Peter-C> *heart
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11:08 < mysterytrey> ♥
11:08 < BobTheWikipedian> question
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11:09 < BobTheWikipedian> unless one lives in germany and has access to an extremely expensive facility designed specifically for generating lightning bolts, how does one do this?
11:10 < Peter-C> Obviously when you are in a sci-fi show
11:10 < SigmaWP> ASCII HEARTS ARE PISS ANNOYING
11:10  * SigmaWP huggles ty
11:10 < BarkingFish> BobTheWikipedian, you want to look at youtube, and see the number of people making home made transformers and HV arc generators. One guy has one on there that can do something like 1,000,000 volts or something, which is roughly what a lightning strike is, iirc
11:11 < BobTheWikipedian> also, jeremy on top gear proved that you can be in a car and struck by a super giant lightning bolt and be safe
11:11 < BobTheWikipedian> of course he had the car turned off and the windows rolled up
11:11  * ty huggles SigmaWP <3
11:11 < Qcoder02> BarkingFish: High voltage isn't always the problem
11:11 < mysterytrey> lowercase sigmas are piss annoying!
11:11 < Qcoder02> High Ampage is
11:11 < Peter-C> I need a converter for peruvian outlets
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11:12 < mysterytrey> ¿
11:12 < BobTheWikipedian> also assumed the recommended lightning-proof posture just before the lightning hit him
11:12 < BarkingFish> Qcoder02, a million volts at 1A will still kill you :)
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11:12 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - you should become a medic in NYC
11:12 < Peter-C> It will be fun
11:12 < BobTheWikipedian> lol
11:12 < BobTheWikipedian> i'm sure it will be
11:13 < Peter-C> Think about all the stories you will get
11:13 < Peter-C> And Wiki meetups! :3
11:13 < BobTheWikipedian> i'll set records for most medic-induced accidental deaths at one clinic
11:13 < Peter-C> Working in cities is fun. So many gun shot wounds.
11:13  * BobTheWikipedian hates the thought of living in a big city
11:14 < Peter-C> Holy fuck, I am watching a TV show about NY EMS.
11:14 < Peter-C> http://www.dwarfentertainment.com/
11:14 < Peter-C> They picked up a dancer from there
11:14 < Peter-C> xD
11:15  * BobTheWikipedian writes a cover letter for a job in burbank
11:15 < Peter-C> :O
11:15 < ChrisGualtieri> Someone is actually bothered by my edits >.>
11:15 < Peter-C> Mr. I Can’t See Myself In A Big City
11:15 < ChrisGualtieri> First time ever someone has complained about my edit speed
11:16 < BobTheWikipedian> then you are officially a wikipedian chrisgualtieri
11:16 < Peter-C> ^
11:16 < BobTheWikipedian> peter-c i will live in a rural area nearby
11:16 < BobTheWikipedian> and commute daily
11:16 < ChrisGualtieri> I've only been active at 50-60% editing speed for awhile now
11:16 < Peter-C> Where is the job at?
11:16 < ChrisGualtieri> Still waiting for POM to load up
11:16 < Peter-C> A Buy More?
11:16 < BobTheWikipedian> walt disney pictures
11:17 < ChrisGualtieri> I'm not going to risk making this guy madder, but I am genuinely interested in why my edits are bugging him
11:17 < BobTheWikipedian> so politely ask him on his talk page...
11:19 < BobTheWikipedian> peter-c, this is it: http://www.indeed.com/rc/clk?jk=95dda1e7bd99179f
11:19 < ChrisGualtieri> He's on my talk page
11:19 < Peter-C> You selling out?
11:19 < ChrisGualtieri> Is 20 edits a minute too fast btw? I'm just using Typoscan, its correction, not content creation
11:20 < BobTheWikipedian> there used to be a rule that bots couldn't edit more than fivefold a minute
11:20 < ChrisGualtieri> I'm not a bot though
11:20 < BobTheWikipedian> i've only seen one editor called out for violating that, and he was deemed a user, thus innocent
11:20 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny//html/community/ems_employment.shtml
11:20 < BobTheWikipedian> and he coined a new phrase "highly efficient editing"
11:20 < ChrisGualtieri> And I pass more then 50% of all articles without changes due to false positives that I can personally verify within a faction of a second
11:21 < BobTheWikipedian> haha no thanks peter
11:21 < Peter-C> D:
11:21 < BarkingFish> right, i'm out for a while - gonna go get some shopping done. Back later :)
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11:22 < BobTheWikipedian> now simple wikipedia is a different story; osiris called me out once for importing hundreds of templates at an alarming rate
11:22 -!- ChrisGualtieri [47eae49b@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has quit [Disconnected by services]
11:22 < BobTheWikipedian> and then he had the community reconsider whether they really needed the automatic taxobox
11:22 -!- ChrisGualtieri [47eae49b@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has joined #wikipedia-en
11:22 < ChrisGualtieri> Bleh disconnected >.> hate ghosting
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11:23  * BobTheWikipedian checks to see if osiris is here
11:23 < BobTheWikipedian> whew
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11:24 -!- SigmaWP is now known as CookiesAreAnnoyi
11:24 < BobTheWikipedian> chatzilla seems to do autoghosting for me in the background
11:24 -!- CookiesAreAnnoyi is now known as CookiesSuck
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11:25 < BobTheWikipedian> reclaiming the nick as soon as possible
11:25 < BobTheWikipedian> actually...nvm. that's not ghosting
11:25 < mysterytrey> No.  It really isn't.
11:25 -!- James_F|Busy [~Jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en
11:25 < BobTheWikipedian> quite not
11:25 -!- lubmil [~lubmil@89-67-33-69.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wikipedia-en
11:26 < James_F|Busy> Hey.
11:26 < mysterytrey> Hello.\
11:26 < James_F|Busy> Gosh. I seem to have an actual connexion.
11:26 < Ironholds> James_F|Busy: indeed, which means I don't have to come down to 3rd and beat you
11:27 < BobTheWikipedian> ghost mysterytrey Ç╩ÿ81MJ◄1
11:27 < Ironholds> 19 connects and disconnects
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11:27 < mysterytrey> nice.
11:27 < James_F|Busy> Yeah. I wasn't amused.
11:27 -!- jc33 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has joined #wikipedia-en
11:27 < jc33> 'ello?
11:27 < mysterytrey> but you have to login, then ghost
11:27 < Ironholds> hey, jc33
11:27 < BobTheWikipedian> ah. never tried it before :D
11:28 < jc33> When did I disconnect? :S
11:28 < BobTheWikipedian> when the squirrel tripped on your connection
11:29 < ChrisGualtieri> Hey Bob, can you link that case about edit speed
11:29 < ChrisGualtieri> I need a better response to this guy, he bugs other editors about their edit speed as well
11:29 < BobTheWikipedian> i'll see if i can find it quickly :)
11:29 < ChrisGualtieri> Thank you
11:29 < mysterytrey> jc33: I see 13:37
11:29 < mysterytrey> That's when you ping timeouted.
11:30 < jc33> ok
11:30 < jc33> thanks
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11:32 < jc33> lovely, three wmf people in 10 seconds.
11:32 < Peter-C> Who did it.
11:32 < Fluffernutter> wifi win
11:32 < CookiesSuck> lol
11:32 < Peter-C> It wasn’t me
11:32  * Peter-C jumps out a window
11:33 < IRWolfie-> I didn't realize Dennis Brown's RFA was only in april, for some reason I'd assumed he'd been an admin for years
11:33  * yuvipanda pokes ragesoss 
11:33 < Ironholds> Fluffernutter: only two of them are in the office :)
11:34 < Ironholds> jc33: and what's wrong with WMF people? ;p
11:34 < jc33> nothing :P
11:34 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-96-236-10-158.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en
11:34  * jc33 was at Wikimania, though only before riding Amtrak to Trenton
11:35 < Ironholds> heh
11:35  * foks was at Wikimania also!
11:36 < Peter-C> omg me too
11:36 -!- ragesoss [~ragesoss@wikimedia/ragesoss] has quit [Client Quit]
11:36 < ChrisGualtieri> He's also bugged Waacstats with it
11:36 < Peter-C> foks and I are twins
11:36 < foks> lies
11:37  * Ironholds was at wikimania, and then not, and then was again
11:37 -!- Dusti [43c105ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.193.5.186] has joined #wikipedia-en
11:38  * Mdann52 wasn't at Wikimania :(
11:38 < Peter-C> Lame.
11:38  * Peter-C tosses Mdann52 down a flight of stairs
11:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds so you were a quantum particle?
11:38  * ToAruShiroiNeko imagines Ironholds fading in and out of existence
11:38 -!- Matthew_ is now known as MRB[away]
11:39 < foks> Ironholds moved state halfway through for some reason
11:39 < Mdann52> I do have an excuse though
11:39 < Mdann52> I couldn't get there, even if I tried
11:39 < Peter-C> Why?
11:40 < Ironholds> foks: indeed
11:40 < Mdann52> Also, I'm under 18
11:40 < ChrisGualtieri> BobTheWikipedian: Did you find anything?
11:41 < BobTheWikipedian> workin on it, and a few other things
11:41 < foks> Mdann52, I'm ony 19, I got there easy enough
11:41 < Peter-C> I’m 16 and I went without my parents :3
11:41 < foks> :3
11:41 < foks> :3333
11:41  * foks travelled thousands of miles! Truffs!
11:41 < Mdann52> I'm not even 16 tho
11:41 < foks> oh.
11:41 < mysterytrey> Peter-C: Did you hitchhike?
11:42 < Peter-C> No, bus.
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11:42 < mysterytrey> Cool.
11:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks I thought you would skip the age of 19 and go directly to 20
11:42 < foks> (Nope.
11:46 < Amasome> who is the developer of wikipedia
11:46 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - become a doctor the the a) chick, b) money, c) power, and d) chicks
11:46 < yuvipanda> and the maggot infested flesh you've to operate on
11:46 -!- MRB[away] [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
11:47 < Peter-C> Amasome - The Wikimedia Foundation
11:47 < Tony_Sidaway> Amasome: the software is developed by Wikimedia Foundation. The content by members of the public.
11:47 < BobTheWikipedian> lol peter
11:47 -!- Yume_Hikari [~Lisa_Logg@c-98-204-30-21.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:48 < ChrisGualtieri> Should I stop editing while waiting for this guy to reply?
11:48 < ChrisGualtieri> I'm getting really bored >.>
11:49 < Peter-C> No, screw him, keep editing
11:49 < yuvipanda> hmmm, anyone heard of any gadget/userscript that replaces edit window with something that has nicer syntax highlighting like http://codemirror.net/?
11:49 < Apheori> Tony_Sidaway: MediaWiki is built by a community of volunteer developers. The WMF mostly guides them and focusses on specific projects.
11:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Amasome wikipedia has a volunteer of developers
11:49 < yuvipanda> I know there's a wiki editor gadget, but that doesn't seem to be my cup of tea...
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11:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the content itself is also created by volunteers
11:49 < Qcoder02> Whats the collective term for coders? a Cabal?
11:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Qcoder02, no nerds
11:50 < Krenair> Development cabal?
11:50 < Qcoder02> Yeah
11:50 < yuvipanda> Qcoder02: herd?
11:50 < Apheori> A mob?
11:50 < Apheori> Oh wait that's wikimedians.
11:50 < Qcoder02> Apheori:  That's Emacs users... ;)
11:50 < Qcoder02> If you say you use another editior
11:50 < Qcoder02> ;)
11:50 < ChrisGualtieri> I need a volunteer dev >.>
11:51 < Krenair> ?
11:51 < WilliamH_UK> oo I joined at the right time
11:51 < Krenair> what for?
11:51 < WilliamH_UK> anyone good with edit filters?
11:51 < Qcoder02> Seen jamesF?
11:51 < Jarry1250> WilliamH_UK: You can try me :)
11:51 < ChrisGualtieri> New tool programs to edit Wikipedia efficently!
11:51 < Apheori> I am good at using edit filters badly...
11:51 < WilliamH_UK> Jarry1250 I'll pm
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11:52 < ChrisGualtieri> I triggered so many edit filters I got confirmed status to avoid them
11:52 < ChrisGualtieri> Then I got auto-confirm XD
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11:53 < WilliamH_UK> hi Dusti
11:53 < Amasome> great.....and thanks bob
11:53 < Dusti> heya
11:53  * yuvipanda pokes Jarry1250 
11:54 < Jarry1250> Hey yvuipanda :)
11:54 < Jarry1250> Oooh, that reminds me I should install the app
11:54 < yuvipanda> hey Jarry1250  :)
11:54 < yuvipanda> indeed
11:55 < yuvipanda> it's mostly pretty stable and everything works :)
11:55 < yuvipanda> I just need to add images to the opening page, and stuff
11:55 < yuvipanda> Jarry1250: what phone / version do you have?
11:55 < Peter-C> I just had a weird moment
11:55 < Peter-C> I was watching tv and I thought “I want that mans face”
11:55 < Jarry1250> yuvipanda: Samsung Galaxy Ace (Android 2.3, is it? I forget)
11:55  * Peter-C grabs a knife and tries to find the guy
11:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Peter-C you cut your hand
11:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you neeeded to hold it from the hilt
11:56 < Jasper_Deng> Heads up everyone! http://www.dailypaul.com/248082/can-someone-fix-the-wiki-on-2012-convention-ron-paul-missing-wa-la-and-nv
11:56 < yuvipanda> Jarry1250: ah, nice :)
11:56 < yuvipanda> Jarry1250: i just spent time yesterday to make it work on pre-ICS devices :)
11:56 < yuvipanda> Jarry1250: tell me issues and i'll file them at https://github.com/yuvipanda/WPSignpost/issues
11:56  * Jasper_Deng smells a banned user writing that article
11:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Jasper_Deng someone named paul maybe
11:57 -!- CookiesSuck is now known as SigmaWP
11:57 < Jasper_Deng> ToAruShiroiNeko: probably not
11:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :p
11:57 < Peter-C> omg http://www.ems1.com/ems-oddities/articles/1326488-Just-ripped-me-to-ribbons-Face-chewing-victim-speaks-out/
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11:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Peter-C what of it?
11:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> bathsalts are vicious stuff
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11:58 < Peter-C> Excited delirum bro
11:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> as an EMT you have a high chance of meeting users
11:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I suggest you arm yourself with tasers
11:58 < ChrisGualtieri> I'm going to continue editing
11:58 < Peter-C> Not in my area, we do something worse here
11:59  * Apheori edits ChrisGualtieri.
11:59 < Peter-C> Actually; tasers are not allowed in NJ
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11:59  * SigmaWP eyes yuvipanda suspiciously
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11:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ok then drag an M60
11:59 < BobTheWikipedian> chris i'm not finding it. need to have some lunch though and work on a cover letter for disney. the general gist of it was this; someone pointed out a user didn't have a bot flag, that user responded and said he was actually editing efficiently, case dropped.
11:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mount the m60 on top of the ambulancre
11:59 < jc33> There's no user on MW called 'Yuvipandan'
11:59 < ChrisGualtieri> Cool
11:59 < ChrisGualtieri> This was the message
11:59 < Peter-C> And here we have “pill parties” - this actually started in my town - people would bring pills to a part and put them in a punch bowl. Everyone would then take a handful of the pills and swallow them.
11:59 < ChrisGualtieri> Hi. Please read the rules of use for AWB, esp. point 2 which states "Don't edit too quickly; consider opening a bot account if you are regularly making more than a few edits a minute."
12:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Yuvipanda maybe
12:00 < jc33> but there's a 'yuvipanda'
12:00 < ChrisGualtieri> I found something from the archives about how opening a 'bot account' would actually be detrimental
12:00 < BobTheWikipedian> ah, is there a rule for this now?
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12:00 < BobTheWikipedian> or only if it's done using awb
12:00 < ChrisGualtieri> No... its been there forever, but AWB on Enwp versus other wikis are probably different
12:00 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: yeah, that's me.
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12:00 < yuvipanda> someone made a mistake when granting me the claok :(
12:01 < BobTheWikipedian> forever for me = 2006ish
12:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda you exist?
12:01 < yuvipanda> i need to go find someone to change it
12:01 < BobTheWikipedian> and many rules have reversed since then
12:01 < ChrisGualtieri> I remember the last time I was self concerned I was simply noted that I should not edit during primetime for hours on end
12:01 < BobTheWikipedian> lol
12:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda just ask one of the wikimedia contacts to freenode
12:01 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: jc33 I do, indeed, exist
12:01 < jc33> ja, ok
12:01 < ChrisGualtieri> However nothing I do is controversial, I haven't had a false positive in the last 20,000 edits and I'm testing Regex's new rules.
12:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda o hai
12:01 < BobTheWikipedian> well anyway, ham sandwich time and then disney application time
12:02 < yuvipanda> ohai ToAruShiroiNeko :)
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12:02 < ChrisGualtieri> I have less then 24 hours of 'work' left
12:02 < yuvipanda> why did that come up?
12:02 < Apheori> Why disney?
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12:03 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: ^^
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12:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda can I trcik you in helping with data gathering?
12:05 < Bradford> ola
12:06 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: if the project is interesting, yes :D
12:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> well
12:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I need help gathering membership dates
12:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> to UN, NATO etc
12:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> and that be placed on templates
12:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> task is similar to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMembership%2FData%2FBurma&diff=503075130&oldid=501854159
12:08  * yuvipanda peeks
12:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> A good chunk of the work is done: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:International_membership_templates/Year
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12:10 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: hmm, so I'll need to 1. Parse out date of entry for countries that exist out of UN / NATO from somewhere else 2. Insert them appropriately into the template?
12:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> essentially yes
12:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> information is on wikipedia in most cases
12:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> such as UN memberhsip dates on the respective article
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12:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ideally ISO format is reccomended but other formats should work too
12:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ie yyyy-mm-dd
12:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_United_Nations#Current_members
12:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> those are the dates
12:12 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_United_Nations#Current_members
12:12 < yuvipanda> ah
12:13 < yuvipanda> yes
12:13 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: looks doable, give me a bit
12:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sure
12:13 < Bruvtakesover> hi
12:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sometimes membership is complicated but those are exceptional
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12:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if you can knock off UN, NATO, WTO, AU, AL and OIC I would be very greatful
12:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> since these are the ones with most members
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12:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> NATO is complex though since there are types of membership
12:15 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: assuming there are pre-existing lists of these on wiki?
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12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes
12:17 < yuvipanda> okay, am doing it for UN
12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> interpol doesnt have one but I have a pdf with the dates
12:17 < yuvipanda> if that works the others should be simple enough
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12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> bear in mind most of UN is done :)
12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you should skip if date is already in
12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> are you writing code?
12:17 < yuvipanda> of course ;)
12:18 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: i am
12:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ok
12:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> then may I suggest something
12:18 < yuvipanda> sure!
12:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you can use subst:time to convert date to ISO format
12:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it would save me work if you can copy dates like this
12:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> since you are coding you can perhaps overwrite the existing value
12:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> since we as humans may have made mistakes
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12:19 < ChrisGualtieri> How to I make a suggestion to amend the rule or remove a rule of AWB?
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12:20 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: just to confirm, I'll have to edit all things of form https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Membership/Data/India&action=edit
12:20 < yuvipanda> and edit the dats
12:20 < yuvipanda> dates?
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12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes
12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> add or update whats there
12:20 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: and you want the dates to be in YYYY-MM-DD format
12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes
12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if there are two entries for |UN= the second one will be ignored
12:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Also, if you want a real challenge there is the matter of UN Security Council which is presented on wiki but in a semi cryptic manner
12:22 < yuvipanda> hmm, I've code that does template re-doing like this from AssessmentBar (heard of it?), but that wouldn't handle the switch at all
12:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_United_Nations_Security_Council
12:23 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont know what you use but a regex would do the trick to find that line
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12:23 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: lxml.html + simple state machines ftw :D
12:24 < yuvipanda> html and regex in the same problem is asking for more problems
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12:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> also I want to maintain readability in the template so I want to see two spaces before each parameter if you can deal with it :/
12:24 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I want to too, so I'd have made sure I put them in ;)
12:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> these are all optional, I can run my bot to clean up if it is difficult to code
12:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> alright
12:25 < linxon634> )
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12:25 < linxon634> èç ðîññèè åñòü ðåáÿò?
12:25 < linxon634> êòî*
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12:26 < yrtneg> Good morning all
12:26 < linxon634> hi
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12:28 < linxon634> .. who is from Russia??
12:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Russians?
12:28 < linxon634> yes)
12:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :D
12:29 < yrtneg> ToAru: Listen to the full album 18 & 18 B-Sides
12:29 < yrtneg> great album
12:29 < linxon634> what?
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12:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda feel free to pm me since this channel will become difficult to follow after a while :)
12:30 < yrtneg> 18 & 18 B-Sides is the
12:30 < yrtneg> BEST
12:30 < yrtneg> ALBUM
12:31 < linxon634> whare are you from?)
12:31 < yrtneg> Me?
12:31 < linxon634> usa?
12:31 < linxon634> you
12:31 < yrtneg> Yes, San Antonio, TX, to be exact
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12:32 < ChrisGualtieri> Hey Zhang
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12:32 < linxon634> )
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12:33 < yrtneg> bump
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12:35 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: nah, I quite like fast flowing channels :D
12:35 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: which timezone are you on?
12:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> +1 gmt
12:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I just may miss comments posted here :p
12:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so if I look like I am ignoring feel free to pm :D
12:36 < yuvipanda> ah, okay
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12:42 < IRWolfie-> seriously WP:OUTCOMES is a pain in the ass
12:42 < IRWolfie-> whoever can dictate what's in that has a trump card at any AfD
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12:45 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: http://pastebin.com/2drjesfz is UN Data
12:45 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: do I not need a bot account to make the edits?
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12:50 < AzaToth> can anyone explain why people in the audience of a stadium are using flashes?
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12:53 < pakaran> AzaToth, that's nothing
12:53 < pakaran> my CIT yea cmp, i worked a week in encironmental science
12:53 < pakaran> councelor training year at scout camp, that is
12:53 < pakaran> we had multiple students in the astronomy merit badge class trying to take flash photos of stars.
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12:54 < GorillaWarfare> lol, read the first sentence of today's FA as "The Western Gangsta Dynasty was an important ruling dynasty of ancient Karnataka in India which lasted from about 350 to 1000 CE. "
12:54 < GorillaWarfare> Definitely had to reread
12:55 < AzaToth> pakaran: hehe
12:55 < AzaToth> GorillaWarfare: lol
12:55 < yuvipanda> I had a western gangsta dynasty close by?
12:55  * yuvipanda goes to read
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12:56 < yuvipanda> hmm, never heard of them. Don't think they conquered us
12:56 < yrtneg> Actualyy they did
12:56 < yrtneg> in 2003
12:57 < SigmaWP> lol
12:57  * GorillaWarfare sighs
12:57 < GorillaWarfare> Academic advisors are something else
12:57  * Peter-C licks GorillaWarfare
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12:58 < GorillaWarfare> I got an email warning me that calc 3 won't count toward my computer engineering degree and that I should let her switch me into Linear Algebra/Differential Equations instead
12:59 < GorillaWarfare> She apparently missed that a) I've declared a math minor, which requires calc 3, and b) I just took LA/DE last semester -.-
13:01 < yrtneg> A LA/DE? Where did you lay down?
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13:03 < BobTheWikipedian> firefox closed....40% of total RAM available again. reopening firefox...
13:03 < yuvipanda> anyone tell me ToAruShiroiNeko's wiki username so I can leave him a talkpage ping?
13:03 < AzaToth> BobTheWikipedian: just upgrade yee ram
13:04 < yuvipanda> hmm, nevermind. My brain started working again
13:04 < BobTheWikipedian> :( holdin out for windows 8 first, azatoth
13:04 < BobTheWikipedian> and a steady income
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13:04 < yrtneg> "Windows 8 sucks gay gay gay" is understatement of the eternity
13:04 < AzaToth> BobTheWikipedian: 1. use linux instead of windows; 2. RAM is cheap
13:05 < yrtneg> 3. vi editor comes with it
13:05 < AzaToth> yea
13:05 < BobTheWikipedian> hey...even though i highly opposed the release of vista, i had to "upgrade" to vista in order to stay on top of the tech world
13:05 < foks> Linux is haaard
13:06 < BobTheWikipedian> if i want to say i can support a windows environment i darn well better know the latest version of windows
13:06 < AzaToth> foks: hardened
13:06 < AzaToth> you can support?
13:06 < foks> haaaaard
13:06  * foks tried to install it; failed
13:06 < AzaToth> I don't support a windows environment
13:06 < BobTheWikipedian> to some degree, yes.
13:06 < BobTheWikipedian> foks you aren't alone
13:06 < foks> Well, succeeding in completely fucking up my laptop anyway.
13:06  * foks needs to fix that at some point.
13:07 < AzaToth> foks: inser CD/DVD/USB click install - done
13:07 < AzaToth> insert*
13:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda haha
13:07 < foks> I did that. It failed.
13:07 < AzaToth> heh
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13:07 < foks> Now I have swap partitions I can't use.
13:07 < foks> :D
13:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E3%81%A8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E7%99%BD%E3%81%84%E7%8C%AB
13:07 < foks> Hooray for linux etc
13:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats me
13:07 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: saw the link I sent you?
13:07 < AzaToth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:とある白い猫
13:07 < BobTheWikipedian> azatoth i tried to install linux got a message on my screen it said user error replace and strike any key when ready
13:07 < AzaToth> that works as well
13:08 < foks> Doesn't on this client :(
13:08 < AzaToth> BobTheWikipedian: lol
13:08 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I'm thinking - I could make a spreadsheet out of everything under Membership/Data/, fill it up, then push it back into templates?
13:08 < AzaToth> foks: works under my _linux_ client
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13:08 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: also https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Membership/Data/The%20Bahamas doesn't exist, but has a UN entry?
13:08 < ChrisGualtieri> Scary thing is I can read Japanese text >.>
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13:08 < BobTheWikipedian> oo
13:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda it does exist
13:08 < foks> AzaToth, I very very rarely need to parse links with japanese text in them.
13:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sometimes countries have many names
13:08 < yrtneg> linux ftw FTFW
13:08 < foks> ;)
13:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Membership/Data/Bahamas
13:09 < foks> Linux would be lovely. Absolutely awesome.
13:09 < foks> If it fucking worked.
13:09  * foks growls
13:09 < BobTheWikipedian> i've used solaris before
13:09 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_United_Nations#Current_members links to 'The Bahamas'
13:09 < AzaToth> foks: it's not what you can do with your computer; it's what your computer can do with you
13:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda right
13:09 < BobTheWikipedian> and i've used linux on cd
13:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> that was the older name of the country
13:09 < foks> AzaToth, philosoraptor? is that you?
13:09 < foks> <3
13:09 < AzaToth> ツ
13:09 < Tony_Sidaway> foks: what's wrong with Linux?
13:10 < foks> It doesn't install without corrupting my entire computer.
13:10 < foks> which is what it did!
13:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> They officialy are "Commonwealth of The Bahamas"
13:10 < BobTheWikipedian> linux isn't newb friendly like windows used to be
13:10 < Tony_Sidaway> foks: which distribution?
13:10 < foks> Well, probably a slightly more complicated version of that.
13:10 < foks> Ubuntu!
13:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda it is difficult to decide on a name for a country
13:10 < foks> It was installing, then it crashed during the install.
13:10 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: so, the Membership/Data/* page should match the wikipedia page name no?
13:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda right it should
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13:10 < Tony_Sidaway> I've installed just about every Linux there is, including Ubuntu, Debian SuSE, Red Hat and even Slackware.
13:10 < Tony_Sidaway> Never had a problem.
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13:11 < foks> I don't have a Snow Leopard boot disk or anything...
13:11 < yrtneg> Then get ML boot disk
13:11 < foks> nothing to delete 'em with
13:11 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: so it should be Membership/Data/The Bahamas?
13:11 < yrtneg> I have mountain laion
13:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Template:Membership/Data/Bahamas should be moved to Template:Membership/Data/The Bahamas
13:11 < yrtneg> IT'S F-CKING AMAZING
13:11 < foks> yrtneg, except my computer is old and ML would probably kill it
13:11 < BobTheWikipedian> foks i installed linux, and rebooted, and got "no operating system, insert a disk and strike any key"
13:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I stupidly created the redirect before checking the article
13:11 < BobTheWikipedian> did it again, same result
13:11 < TBloemink> I did not even know this :o http://www.google.com/doodles/sopa-pipa
13:11 < foks> BobTheWikipedian, it wasn't that bad for me, given I was dualbootin
13:11 < foks> +g
13:11 < Tony_Sidaway> But if you have an Apple computer, you probably don't need Linux. Apples are BSD systems.
13:11 < BobTheWikipedian> did it a third time, matched einstein's definition of insanity
13:11  * foks sucks with computers though.
13:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda as a convention I want to match the article name as much as possible
13:12 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: yeah, i think that'd make sense ;)
13:12 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: can you do the move?
13:12 < foks> Tony_Sidaway, I was installing it to see what it was like.
13:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am not an amdin but I can try
13:12 < foks> It was pretty ace when I booted from the CD
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13:12 < BobTheWikipedian> yeah
13:12 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: also I would need a bot account to make the edits?
13:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oh it worked :)
13:12 < yuvipanda> it's only ~200 edits, and I can space them out
13:12 < foks> But obviously a little bit lacking since it was from a CD
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13:12 < foks> BUT ENOUGH OF JOE'S FAILURES.
13:12 < Tony_Sidaway> You had your Apple system backed up, of course.
13:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda I have abot account and can run the code but you can space them too
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13:12 < foks> (That's me. Joe.)
13:12 < BobTheWikipedian> yeah...and i can't say i particularly enjoyed my experience using the cd version either
13:13 < StaritupS> Quien anda acá
13:13 < foks> Tony_Sidaway, yes.
13:13 < yrtneg> ML doesnt need a disk to install.
13:13 < StaritupS> que hable español
13:13 < foks> yrtneg, it does if you want a clean install
13:13 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: so can I just run them on my normal account and space them?
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13:13 < BobTheWikipedian> too much stuff that should have been done automatically, like mounting a disk before you open it
13:13 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: the last thing I'd want is to get banned :D
13:13 < BobTheWikipedian> like if i double click on a disk, don't tell me i should mount it first, mount it yourself!
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13:14  * foks wants to install ML.
13:14 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I can also share the hackily written script that would do the replacing
13:14 < foks> But I don't have £15 even. XD
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13:14 < BobTheWikipedian> lol
13:14 < foks> well I probably do but money's pretty tight atm
13:14 < StaritupS> Lol
13:14 < yrtneg> Jojo was a man who thought he was a loner
13:14 < BobTheWikipedian> only got two 10's, foks?
13:14 < foks> BobTheWikipedian, :P
13:15 < foks> I need a joooob.
13:15 < BobTheWikipedian> it's hard making 15 even with two 10s
13:15 < BobTheWikipedian> me too :P
13:15 < foks> Rip one in hal.
13:15 < foks> * half.
13:15 < foks> :D
13:15 < Qcoder02> Good evening
13:15  * yuvipanda is happily unemployed
13:15 < Qcoder02> I am about to have a screaming rant
13:15 < BobTheWikipedian> half a 10 isn't 5. it's half a 10.
13:15  * foks is unhappily unemployed.
13:15 < Qcoder02> 700 spams on one group?
13:15 < yrtneg> here's how to make a 15 out of 2 10s
13:15 < yrtneg> rip one in half
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13:15 < Qcoder02> Someone needs to be told how to run things...
13:15 < foks> Stealing my joke?!
13:16 < yrtneg> Oh i didn't see ot
13:16 < BobTheWikipedian> 10 + half a 10 = 10. yet 10 + 2 halves of a 10 = 20. go figure :P
13:16 < yrtneg> lol
13:16 < StaritupS> Hi Foks
13:16 < foks> hi
13:16 < Qcoder02> BobTheWikipedian:  There was a scam run in the UK about torn notes
13:16 < Shirik> how is 10 + half a 10 = 10
13:16 < BobTheWikipedian> ripped money only retains its value when its other half is present
13:16 < yrtneg> it's 15
13:17 < foks> Shirik, 'cos banknotes
13:17 < yrtneg> My relative wrote the oldest will in the UK
13:17 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: can you fix the 'Ivory Coast' template too?
13:17 < Shirik> ._.
13:17 < foks> :3
13:17 < BobTheWikipedian> thus handing someone half a 10 is worthless, but handing them both halves is worth 10.
13:17 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: you're using the older name, I guess?
13:17 < yrtneg> white cat
13:17  * yuvipanda hands BobTheWikipedian half a 7
13:17 < yrtneg> 3.5
13:17 < BobTheWikipedian> lol
13:17 < Shirik> half a 7 is 1
13:18 < Shirik> it's just slightly rotated
13:18 < BobTheWikipedian> depends on the half, shirik
13:18 < Qcoder02> Of course ripping US banknotes get you in deep trouble
13:18 < yrtneg> actually there is more | than ¯
13:18 < Qcoder02> ;)
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13:19 < BobTheWikipedian> actually wouldn't it be a curvy 7 if it were on a u.s. banknote?
13:19 < yrtneg> no
13:20 < BobTheWikipedian> the kind with the tail on the bottom
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13:20 < yrtneg> 007
13:20 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: also The Gambia
13:21 < BobTheWikipedian> woah. my image in my word document makes it 24 megs...anyone know how to force word to use a gif?
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13:22 < yrtneg> Take a screen shot of it, use Preiew to make it gif
13:22 < BreakDown> Hey
13:22 < yrtneg> hi
13:22 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: and Georgia (country)
13:22 < BreakDown> what?
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13:23 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: and 'Republic of Ireland'
13:23 < yrtneg> Mr winkler is GAY
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13:24 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: and 'Republic of Macedonia'
13:24 < Qcoder02> yrteng: Behave
13:24 < yrtneg> It's an uncyc injoke
13:25 < BobTheWikipedian> au-hau-haaaaau
13:25 < BobTheWikipedian> got it
13:25 < BobTheWikipedian> ^that was supposed to be a french laugh
13:26 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: and 'Kingdom of the Netherlands' :)
13:26 < BobTheWikipedian> right-clicked the image in the document, save as picture, selected a gif format, and pasted it in its own place :D 2 megs now
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13:26 < yuvipanda> i'm making a list seperately
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13:27 < BobTheWikipedian> oh hey that even improved the color on it :o surprisingly
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13:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda we;;
13:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Georgia is "Georgia"
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13:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> The state cannot be a member of international organizations so I want to keep it as is
13:28 < BobTheWikipedian> georgia georgia or georgia georgia?
13:28 < yrtneg> WTF
13:29 < BobTheWikipedian> there are two georgias
13:29 < yrtneg> oh right
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13:29 < yrtneg> In asia and in the US
13:29 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Membership/Data/Georgia_(country) should be what it is, no?
13:29 < Qcoder02> Three actually
13:29 < Qcoder02> There's some bit of UK Rock in the South Atlantic
13:29 < BobTheWikipedian> back in the u.s.s.r.?
13:30 < yrtneg> BTW: YES
13:30 < yrtneg> YES YES YES
13:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda can you list me the names? :)
13:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no it should remain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Membership/Data/Georgia IMHO
13:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> putting the () would be very controversial
13:31 < BobTheWikipedian> soviet, soviet, my home sweet home, just an old sweet song keeps georgia on my mind
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13:32 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I can
13:32 < yrtneg> why, georgia, why
13:32 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: well, in that case I can map it. Not a problem. As long as I can have a list of those things that are different
13:32 < yuvipanda> skip_list = ['Ivory Coast', 'The Gambia', 'Georgia (country)', 'Republic of Ireland', 'Republic of Macedonia', 'Kingdom of the Netherlands', 'São Tomé and Príncipe']
13:32 < yuvipanda> is what i have so far
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13:32 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko:
13:32 < yuvipanda> ^
13:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I have move dthe pages though\
13:32 < yuvipanda> i'm stuck at Sao Tome with encoding issues
13:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> AH!
13:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Ivory Coast was moved
13:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> FINALLY
13:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thanks I was hoping  for this for a while
13:33 < BobTheWikipedian> mustard seeds at work
13:34 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: thoughts on São_Tomé_and_Príncipe?
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13:34 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: it exists without accents
13:34 < yuvipanda> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Membership/Data/Sao_Tome_and_Principe
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13:35 < BobTheWikipedian> use a switch
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13:35 < yuvipanda> BobTheWikipedian: am writing python code :)
13:36 < BobTheWikipedian> oh i never studied that language :P
13:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda I can move it, sure
13:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to update two places :)
13:36 -!- jc35 is now known as Brooklyn
13:37  * SigmaWP eyes yuvipanda suspiciously
13:37 < yuvipanda> SigmaWP: I didn't do it
13:37 < Brooklyn> OmegaWP, you keep eyeing them suspiciously.
13:37 < Brooklyn> *SigmaWP
13:37 < TeeTylerToe> it's all a plot against php.  Everyone's in on it
13:38 < TeeTylerToe> the conspiracy is massive
13:38 < yuvipanda> php killed my dog
13:38 < yuvipanda> it also set my alarm to the sound of nails on a chalk board
13:39 < TeeTylerToe> I heard php created dubstep
13:39 < Qcoder02> Where did BarkingFish go?
13:39 < BobTheWikipedian> fire hydrant
13:39 < TeeTylerToe> and where's php...
13:39 < SigmaWP> Munich
13:39 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Membership/Data/United_States_of_America vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States :)
13:40  * Qcoder02 has this odd view of BarkingFish  getting p***f in Munich
13:40 < yuvipanda> porn? p*f? I'm confused
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13:41 < SigmaWP> It's extended iterable unpacking
13:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda is there any I missed besides georgia?
13:42 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: United States vs United States of America
13:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you have already done me a great service for finding these
13:42 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: Vietnam vs Viet Nam
13:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes done it already :)
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13:42 < Peter-C>  Injuries Resulting From Car Surfing—United States, 1990-2008
13:42 < Peter-C> lulwtf
13:42 < yuvipanda> awesome. Checking again
13:42 < BobTheWikipedian> yuvi sometimes india and indiana get confused
13:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> done Vietnam too
13:43 < Qcoder02> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2185494/Olympics-2012-Parkinsons-sufferer-Mark-Worsfold-54-arrested-police-smiling-cycling-road-race.html - Huh?
13:44 < Qcoder02> Anyne not smiling is suspect?
13:44 < yuvipanda> awesome, looks clean!
13:44 < SigmaWP> Dai Nam!
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13:44 < Qcoder02> Since when did the UK Government make netural faces illegal?
13:44 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: verifying again. The only mapping I'm doing is for Georgia
13:45 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: verified :)
13:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> alright
13:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont think I agree with the decision to move georgia to its new name
13:46 < yuvipanda> ?
13:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> of the wikipedia article itself
13:46 < yuvipanda> aaah
13:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it will probably be moved later
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13:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I will redirect though
13:46 < yuvipanda> ah, well - I like watching these debates from a distance :D
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13:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> me too
13:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> though I find my self burried in them form time to time
13:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I want to avoid ()'s in template names I mean
13:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it is back end stuff
13:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> who cares :p
13:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you can edit Template:Membership/Data/Georgia (country) with your code and I would manually migrate the info
13:48 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: nah, I'm ediging /Georgia
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13:48 < yuvipanda> it was very simple for me to put a mapping for these things
13:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> alright :) thats even better :D
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13:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> once done with UN, WTO etc I hope to ask you to help with UN security council
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13:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> relationship there is annoying to say the least
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13:50 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization_accession_and_membership#List_of_members_and_accession_dates is not linkified :(
13:50 < Peter-C> Does this read like an essay or is it just me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_pressure_drop_across_major_arteries_to_capillaries
13:51 < SigmaWP> Peter-C: Just fix it
13:51 < Brooklyn> the title sucks
13:51 < Peter-C> Fixing it = deleting it
13:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda nope
13:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> this is exactly why I am working on this template
13:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> to establish the article on such articles
13:52 < yuvipanda> okay, let me do that for that now
13:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> please work on the task thats easier first :p
13:52 < SigmaWP> Whatever happened to Ottava
13:52 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: so, what I'm thinking is - I'll get the script done up, and then pass it to you so you can run it under your bot account
13:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda sure
13:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I can run python code
13:52 < Brooklyn> they used to post on WR
13:53 < Brooklyn> but
13:53 < ToAruShiroiNeko> people go to WR?
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13:53 < Brooklyn> yes
13:53 < ToAruShiroiNeko> WR is sooo... 2006s
13:53 < Brooklyn> but Wikipediocracy is new
13:53 < Brooklyn> and better
13:54 < Brooklyn> imo
13:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont like either]
13:54 < Brooklyn> but their topics on Fae are...shit
13:54 < Brooklyn> SigmaWP: https://toolserver.org/~luxo/contributions/contributions.php?user=Ottava+Rima&blocks=true
13:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont like people making a big deal of crap
13:54 < Brooklyn> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/Foundation_Policy_and_Political_Association_Guideline#Thanks_for_Comments_and_Deference_to_Community
13:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sure I was blocked back in 2006, big deal... move on
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13:55 < SigmaWP> Interesting
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13:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda NATO has many relationships as you can see
13:56 < Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: don't tell me, the trolls have a new website to post their whinges on?
13:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway no clue
13:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda demembership is also an important parameter for NATO relaitonships
13:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> countries cease being PfP nations when they become full members
13:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway I dont know if anyone talks or cares about me on such sites
13:57 < BobTheWikipedian> i'd never seen whine spelt with a G until this month
13:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BobTheWikipedian went to a primary school?
13:58 < BobTheWikipedian> nope, elementary.
13:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ah elementary my dear BobTheWikipedian
13:58 < BobTheWikipedian> the american version
13:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Boom!
13:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> AMERICA! AMERICA!
13:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!
13:59 < BobTheWikipedian> our new anthem
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13:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BobTheWikipedian sucks to be that guy named america
13:59 < BobTheWikipedian> amerigo?
13:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes
13:59 < Tony_Sidaway> Whinge (rhymes with minge) is a common British word that means roughly the same as whine.
13:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if he gets a ping in afterlife he is never sleeping
14:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> that could also be what hell is
14:00 < BobTheWikipedian> haven't seen that word, minge...does that rhyme with cringe, like i cringe when i see whinge?
14:00  * ToAruShiroiNeko catapults BobTheWikipedian sky high
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14:01  * BobTheWikipedian tries to grab a branch
14:01  * BobTheWikipedian misses
14:01 < Tony_Sidaway> Minge is a British word for vagina.
14:01  * BobTheWikipedian catches it on the way down
14:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> British have a word for Vagina? O_O
14:01 < BobTheWikipedian> oh, lovely
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14:01 < Bruvtakesover> yes
14:01 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: should be easy enough, actually
14:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> perhaps
14:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its a pain for a human to read
14:02 < Tony_Sidaway> We have lots and lots of word for vagina. Don't mistake us for our prudish colonial colleagues.
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14:03 < Tony_Sidaway> Though my favourite is Australian: map of Tasmania.
14:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda United Arab Republic does not exist anymore mind you :)
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14:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> what about tasmania?
14:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they have tasmanian devils in there
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14:05 < BobTheWikipedian> taz of tasmania
14:05 < pakaran> Tony_Sidaway, i suppose you want us to assume that's for the same reason eskimos have hundreds of words for snow, and Americans have hundreds of words for money/investments?
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14:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran but does UK have as much vagina as snowflakes?
14:05 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: 157 countries in WTO list
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14:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yup
14:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> not every country is a wto member
14:05 < pakaran> shit
14:05 < pakaran> :(
14:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you can datamine their actual website if you like
14:06 < pakaran> i forgot that eskimo is seen as a racist term
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14:06 < pakaran> it wasn't when i was a child, and i hope nobody was offended
14:06 < BobTheWikipedian> i would think so
14:06 < BobTheWikipedian> inuit might be safer
14:06 < pakaran> nod
14:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran when you were a child people didnt have lasers so its fine
14:06 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: now to see how many of them have wrongly spelt template names
14:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda heh
14:06 < BobTheWikipedian> it's like calling native americans "indians"
14:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda there are lots of WTO candidates
14:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> actually yuvipanda if you like
14:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I would prefer you datamine their website
14:07 < pakaran> though apparently there's a few groups that aren't actually inuit and are offended for the same reason Scottish people don't like being called Irish, or Canadians American
14:07 < BobTheWikipedian> call them what they really are, not the name given to them by outsiders
14:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> since I care about their premembership
14:07 < pakaran> BobTheWikipedian, though, confusingly, a few tribes in my area have "x nation of Indians", etc, in their official name
14:07 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: sure, first run on this :)
14:07 < yuvipanda> so far only 'European Union' doesn't have a template :)
14:07 < yuvipanda> not sure if it should
14:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yeah
14:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it will but EU is a painful thing to handle
14:08 < yuvipanda> Hong Kong doesn't
14:08 < yuvipanda> Macau doesn't
14:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> prioe to 1993 it is especiallly complicated
14:08 < pakaran> there's people who identify as Indian, and try to take back the term, in the same way as "Queer"
14:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> most ex nations dont because no one had the time to create them
14:08 < yuvipanda> Republic of Moldova
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14:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> moldova should be there
14:08 < yuvipanda> Chinese Taipei
14:08 < yuvipanda> and that's it from current list
14:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Chinese Taipei is Taiwan and is there
14:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldova
14:09 < Pharos> hi wikipedians
14:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its moldova on the original
14:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> as in article
14:09 < Pharos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_America#Event_page_wizard
14:09 < pakaran> what do people from Taiwan call their nation in English?
14:09 < pakaran> I should know this.
14:09 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization_accession_and_membership#List_of_members_and_accession_dates calls it 'Republic of Moldova'
14:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Membership/Data/Moldova
14:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am not disputing it
14:09 < yuvipanda> change the list on article perhaps?
14:09 < pakaran> I know that products are typically made in "Taiwan" (thus avoiding the question of who rules/should rule that land)
14:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sure
14:09 < BobTheWikipedian> hello pharos
14:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but bear in mind sometimes countries are recorded with thjat exact name
14:10 < pakaran> there's a lot of weird issues
14:10 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: true, but I think we've so far managed to have exact names between their wiki articles and Template names
14:10 < yuvipanda> except for georgia
14:10 < pakaran> like, Vatican City and the Holy See are actually separate entities
14:10 < yuvipanda> and I'll dutifuly note any other exceptions in my script
14:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sure
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14:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats a good thing
14:11 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: the other ones? Macau, Hong Kong?
14:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am merely trying to explain
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14:11 < yuvipanda> and Chinese Taipei - do you want to rename that to Taiwan in the article also? :D
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14:11 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I understand :)
14:11 < pakaran> The article on the *nation* is at Republic of China, no?
14:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Hong Kong is a dependant of Peoples Republic of China
14:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but Hong Kong is registered seperately to WTO
14:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> like how Republic of China (Taiwan)/Chinese Taipei is
14:12 < pakaran> ToAruShiroiNeko, yeah, but it has a level of political independence significantly higher than, say, Puerto Rico or Greenland.
14:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran indeed
14:12 < Pharos> Republic of China is more a *state* than a nation
14:12 < pakaran> And I'm trying, and failing, to think of a non-PRC case where that's true of an entity big enough to be a nation.
14:12 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: it's 02:40 here, and I've classes at 8AM. So I'll be off now.
14:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but we have created templates only for independent countries
14:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda we can continue later, thats fine
14:12 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I'll mine their site tomorrow instead, and do a 'dry run' of template modifications
14:13 < pakaran> The component entities of the UK can't pass legislation that overrides the UK parliament except to the extent that Parliament has agreed not to interfere with them doing.
14:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda I want to know candiacy and also full membership from WTO
14:13 < pakaran> (sorry, that sentence should be taken out and shot, but I think it's technically true)
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14:13 < BobTheWikipedian> it has been shotten
14:13 < BobTheWikipedian> and shotted
14:14 < pakaran> ...
14:14 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: where can I get that?
14:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oh
14:14 < yuvipanda> you mean candidacy vs full membership?
14:14 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: also, NATO is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO?
14:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> WTO's site
14:14 < pakaran> I remember I've always meant to fix instances of "hung" as the past tense of capital punishment.
14:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> one second
14:14 < Steven_Zhang>  ohai
14:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda yes and more
14:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats just members
14:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> there are pfp nations and etc
14:14 < pakaran> and there's a lot of them in wikipedia; they're also harder to google for than, say, "all intensive purposes"
14:15 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/tif_e/org6_e.htm?
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14:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/acc_e/a1_afghanistan_e.htm
14:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda thats one country for youi
14:16 < pakaran> ToAruShiroiNeko, is part of the problem that Americans don't know the distinction between "state" and "nation", and in extreme cases think that "state" generally means an entity like Ontario, Florida, or New South Wales?
14:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> not a member yet
14:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Afghanistan is just a candidate
14:17 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: right, I see them under 'Observers'
14:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran to me when someone tells "state" or "naiton" I think of independent political entity first
14:17 < pakaran> me too, but I've also been online (and often awake at funny times) for a very long time.
14:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda mind that countries are only allowed to be an observer for 5 or 10 years (one of the other)
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14:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its complicated
14:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> dont worry about exceptions too much
14:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the bulk of the work can be automated
14:18 < yuvipanda> indeed. I should read up on WTO as such tomorrow
14:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> we can deal with exceptioons as they come up
14:18 < pakaran> ToAruShiroiNeko, what about non UN recognized entities like Somaliland?
14:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> alright
14:18 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I now need to crash.
14:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ok see you
14:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran non-recognised state
14:18 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: Poke at my talk page :)
14:18 < BobTheWikipedian> wow, http://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/science-mystery-hendra-virus-062305798.html it would be a little disconcerting to live in a suburb after which a virus was named...
14:19 < pakaran> ah, sorry for the many questions
14:19 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: http://hastebin.com/hakopoqubo.py is the code in case you want to poke around :)
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14:19 < pakaran> just find this interesting.
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14:19 < pakaran> and i need to go now if i'm going to eat before karate
14:19 < yuvipanda> gnite :)
14:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran kicks people
14:19 < pakaran> i'll be on around 9 eastern...  if i can help with this project, let me know
14:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> alright
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14:20 < pakaran> ToAruShiroiNeko, actually, I don't believe I'm an op anywhere.
14:20 < TeeTylerToe> do you mean pastebin?
14:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no, I meant IRL
14:20 < pakaran> heh
14:20 < BobTheWikipedian> ireland
14:20 < pakaran> when we spar (which I won't for 2 more color levels), it's point sparring
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14:20 < pakaran> if someone gets hurt, you're doing it wrong (and you don't go for targets like knees and throat at all)
14:20 < Isarra> Did wikipedia's logo really use to have a klingon character on it?
14:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran sure
14:21 < BobTheWikipedian> you must not be talking about water polo
14:21 < BobTheWikipedian> yes isarra
14:21 < pakaran> Isarra, it's on one of the 3 pieces of the wikiglobe that 4chan stole 5 years ago.
14:21  * pakaran ducks.  
14:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I meant kicking people sparta style
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14:21 < Isarra> Why was that changed?
14:21 < BobTheWikipedian> to better represent more people
14:21 < Peter-C> OMG http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/09/exclusive-area-woman-reads-newspaper/
14:22 < Isarra> Wannabe klingons are people too!
14:22 < BobTheWikipedian> the klingon language doesn't do much in that respect
14:22 < Isarra> Pfft.
14:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont like the current puzzle logo
14:22 < Isarra> Must everything be so serious?
14:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it leaves out too many languages
14:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> needs to have more puzzles
14:22 < BobTheWikipedian> neko [[WP:SOFIXIT]]
14:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no way
14:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I lost my puzzles
14:22 < Isarra> You want a fractal logo.
14:22 < BobTheWikipedian> oh come on [[WP:BEBOLD]]
14:23 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I have been bold for ages
14:23 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I ceased that a while ago
14:23 < BobTheWikipedian> isarra...it must be serious. and boring. how else do you propose we appeal to readers of peer-reviewed journals?
14:24 < Isarra> By kidnapping their loved ones?
14:24 < BobTheWikipedian> the only thing peer-reviewed journals have that we don't is a conflict of interest
14:24 < Isarra> And fewer loved ones.
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14:24 < Isarra> So they're easier to kidnap.
14:25 < BobTheWikipedian> wait, having fewer loved ones makes loved ones easier to kidnap?
14:25 < Isarra> There are less people involved, so less loved ones to choose from and kidnap.
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14:25  * BobTheWikipedian should have gone into philosophy
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14:26  * BobTheWikipedian detects the aftertaste of chinese mustard
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14:27 < Peter-C> I want Google Glasses
14:27 < Peter-C> Like... right now
14:28 < BobTheWikipedian> they are still in alpha development
14:28 < jorm> so, the curation toolbar is live.
14:28 < James_F|Busy> jorm: Yay
14:28 < Isarra> It wasn't before?
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14:30 < Frood> jorm: I told [[Aza Raskin]] about your response to that site, he said "the answer sounds defensive. There's a lot to be learned from both the experience of Wikipedia as well the new thoughts "
14:30 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - SO
14:30 < Peter-C> I WANT IT NAOW
14:30 < Peter-C> It will be a babe magnet
14:30 < BobTheWikipedian> chinese mustard?
14:30 < Peter-C> And I could watch porn and people wouldn’t know
14:31 < BobTheWikipedian> i'm pretty sure chinese mustard will not be a chick magnet
14:31 < Peter-C> Apparently by the time they come out my phone contract will expire. SCORE!
14:31 < Frood> (That's how I found out about it, I don't regularly speak to him)
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14:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway I do have a tr.wikipedia sysop that is taking the time to bother me on a wiki he has no edits on besides his oppose vote
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14:33 < jorm> Frood: of course it sounds defensive.  that's mostly because i'm irritated about talking about it.
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14:35 < Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: you do seem to have a talent for attracting nutters. I sympathize. I share the same talent to a great extent.
14:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway well at least this folk is upset because of an RfC I filed against him
14:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> well him -> most tr.wiki sysops
14:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yeah, I know I wont be popular on tr.wikipedia for the rest of my life
14:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I'd rather do the right thing than be in my "safe"
14:36 < BobTheWikipedian> peter what happens when you go into R.E.M. while wearing google glasses
14:36 < BobTheWikipedian> ?
14:36 < Steven_Zhang> http://xkcd.com/547/
14:36 < Steven_Zhang> lol
14:36 < Steven_Zhang> Peter-C: <3
14:37 < Brooklyn> lol
14:37 < Brooklyn> I've seen that one before
14:37 < BobTheWikipedian> lol
14:38 < BobTheWikipedian> peter-c read my question :D
14:38 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - Seizures
14:38 < Peter-C> idk
14:38 < Pharos> Brooklyn!
14:38 < BobTheWikipedian> that's not good
14:38 < Brooklyn> :D
14:38 < Pharos> who the heck is that?
14:38 < BobTheWikipedian> i go into r.e.m. a LOT and sure wouldn't want seizures for wearing google glasses
14:38 < BobTheWikipedian> i'll opt out
14:39 < Steven_Zhang> http://xkcd.com/906/
14:39 < Pharos> I am, are you really from the County of Kings?
14:39 < BobTheWikipedian> lol steven
14:39 < Steven_Zhang> lol
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14:41 < Steven_Zhang> jorm: so true
14:41 < Steven_Zhang> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fabola/7571380662/in/set-72157630578652390/
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14:44 < BobTheWikipedian> oo another game on google
14:44 < Brooklyn> http://www.google.com.tw/ < tomorrow's (for the US)
14:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://xkcd.com/556/
14:46 < Qcoder02> Hmm
14:47 < Qcoder02> Just had someone weird out on me
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14:47 < Qcoder02>  Because I'm on a different handle now they think I'm an imposter :)
14:47 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
14:47 < Qcoder02> despite my attempts to convince them otherwise
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14:50 < [ceradon]> "Baractually, A load of Mitt." -- I love that.
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14:51 < Steven_Zhang> James_F|Away: poke
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14:51 < TeeTylerToe> I'm not sure the batshit crazy are the tiny minority that comic implies
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14:53  * Steven_Zhang prods Maryana 
14:53 < Maryana> ack!
14:53  * Maryana removes prod template!
14:54  * Peter-C afd’s Maryana
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14:54  * Maryana argues convincingly for keep :)
14:54  * ToAruShiroiNeko prods everyone with a katana
14:54 < Steven_Zhang> ow
14:54 < TeeTylerToe> For instance, Mitt Romney's basic campaign strategy of "Lies!"  is a slight variation on oolong kalophid's "don't vote for stupid" strategy
14:54 < Peter-C> You penis.
14:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm
14:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I want to see Mitt Romney face of against obama on TV
14:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> when will that happen?
14:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oh right he hasnt even picked a vice president
14:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no one wants to be that vice president
14:55 < TeeTylerToe> why would that change anything?
14:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I watched the Kerry v Bush tv showdown
14:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> "He did not have the intelligence"
14:56 < TeeTylerToe> People that want to believe that obama said that small business owners weren't the driving force behind their own success will believe it no matter if aliens come down and probe them with the least user friendly of alien probes
14:56 < ToBeFree> "<TeeTylerToe> For instance, Mitt Romney's basic campaign strategy of "Lies!"  is a slight variation on oolong kalophid's "don't vote for stupid" strategy" - LOL
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14:56 < Saw> Hello
14:56 < ToBeFree> hi
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14:57 < Saw> Twinkle?
14:57 < Frood> Twinkle.
14:58 -!- Saw is now known as Cyrax
14:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> TeeTylerToe obama did say that if you cut of rest of his speech
14:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> TDS has covered this
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14:59 < Cyrax> I speak spanish
14:59 < TeeTylerToe> Yes, but the people that want to believe what the Romney ads are saying won't change their minds if they see the context
14:59 < TeeTylerToe> For instance, a pennsylvania republican who thinks that democrats steal elections through voter fraud won't listen if you tell them that there has never been a recorded case of voter fraud in pennsylvania
15:00 < Cyrax> warnings of vandalism?
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15:00 < Cyrax> hello?
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15:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://xkcd.com/556/ -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYIF6fgQgTk
15:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes
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15:02 < benzband> talking of republicans: http://www.dailypaul.com/248082/can-someone-fix-the-wiki-on-2012-convention-ron-paul-missing-wa-la-and-nv
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15:03 < Cyrax> ToAruShiroiNeko, 	warnings or notice of vandalism?
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15:06 < Tony_Sidaway> Veep selections aren't normally announced before party conference. Romney made an unforced error e
15:07 < Tony_Sidaway> When he said he would announce his running
15:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Cyrax huh?
15:07 < Tony_Sidaway> Mate before conference
15:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway hmm good advice
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15:08 < Tony_Sidaway> My advice to Romney now would be "don't rely on the economy to rescue your campaign"
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15:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway do not advise romney please
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15:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am happy that he is a physical manifestation of cartoon rich
15:10 < Tony_Sidaway_> Why hasn't he dealt decisively with the tax nonsense? Just release a few years of records and get it over with.
15:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no way
15:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I know for a fact that he is a dishonest person
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15:11 < Fasttimes68> I had the day off
15:11 < Fasttimes68> here is what I did
15:11 < Fasttimes68> http://screencast.com/t/oUaonsXB
15:11 < Tony_Sidaway_> He was the least awful candidate, and that's not saying much.
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15:12 < benzband> i would suggest updating his wiki article with all these interesting facts
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15:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I'd prefer to see the 555 guy in office
15:12 < BarkingFish> Fasttimes68, you jammy git :)  I've never had the cojones to go over 100 before :P
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15:12 < Tony_Sidaway_> Obviously I wish they'd chosen Gingrich or even that religious nut.
15:12 < Fasttimes68> thats MPH, not K/m
15:12 < Fasttimes68> :D
15:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gingrich is fine
15:13 < Fasttimes68> of course it was in a race car
15:13 < BarkingFish> yeah, that's what i mean, ft
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15:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gingrich just needs ron paul as running mate
15:13 < Fasttimes68> a pro driver took me on 3 laps
15:13 < Fasttimes68> hit 160
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15:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 160 KPH isnt impressive
15:14 < Fasttimes68> MPH
15:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> still not impressive
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15:14 < Fasttimes68> whatever
15:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 160 KPS <3
15:14 < Fasttimes68> people were puking afterwards
15:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 160*60*60 = 576000
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15:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> or 576m/s
15:16 < Tony_Sidaway_> I've been reading Iain M Banks. Anything below 10,000 lights is not worth bothering with.
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15:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no
15:16 < Tony_Sidaway_> Give me a nice big Torturer class ROU.
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15:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you cant go faster than light
15:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BUT space itself can
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15:18 < ChrisGualtieri> Is someone from bot request on?
15:19 < Fluffernutter> o_O http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:XsHoa10pSogRcAVgjAxsVMs1C1BbYUspRh
15:19 < benzband> haha
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15:20 < benzband> ChrisGualtieri, do you mean from [[WP:BAG]] ? !link
15:20 < ChrisGualtieri> benzband: I guess
15:20 < benzband> ChrisGualtieri: they have their own channel at #wikipedia-bag
15:20 < ChrisGualtieri> benzband: Coolies
15:21 < benzband> ChrisGualtieri: what has http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolies got to do with it? *puzzled*
15:22 < ChrisGualtieri> <.< I'm saying that's cool and I'll check it out
15:22 < Tony_Sidaway_> ToAruShiroiNeko: what? You'll be trying to tell me next that spaceships can't talk!
15:22 < benzband> oh, that's cool then :P
15:22 < benzband> ><(((*>
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15:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway_ spaceships can talk
15:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> test to speech is very possible
15:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> *text
15:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> have I not linked you to this?
15:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD8GmRjWGV4
15:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> computers can EVEN sing now
15:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> admitively I cannot image the computer of Enterprise singing
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15:28 < ChrisGualtieri> Miku!
15:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats Hatsune-sama to you
15:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :P
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15:29 < ChrisGualtieri> >.> I've known Miku for years
15:30 < ChrisGualtieri> We are on a first-name basis
15:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oh?
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15:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> My apologies
15:30 < ChrisGualtieri> Hehe :)
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15:31 < benzband> ToAruShiroiNeko this is starting to sound like something from the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
15:31 < BobTheWikipedian> there is a singing computer on the article [[Sakura, Sakura]]
15:31 < BobTheWikipedian> without the comma
15:31 < benzband> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius_Cybernetics_Corporation
15:32 < BobTheWikipedian> that too :D
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15:32 < BobTheWikipedian> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakura_Sakura
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15:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Bendersgame technology allows singing computers as of 2010
15:36  * SigmaWP hugs jorm 
15:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I cannot predict what 2020 will bring
15:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> despite being in 2012
15:37  * benzband meditates for a couple of seconds
15:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I can see this tech be incorporated iunto various discos and whatnot
15:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 3d hologram tech needs work though
15:38  * BobTheWikipedian hugs neko fro saying whatnot
15:38 < benzband> 2020 will bring yet a new iPhone, the rise of all oceans, the end of capitalism and some cheese with crackers
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15:39 < BobTheWikipedian> and free music
15:39 < BobTheWikipedian> public domain advances to 1924 in 2020
15:39 < BobTheWikipedian> :D woot
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15:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> apple will have a market crash by 2017
15:40 < BobTheWikipedian> and in 2021, public domain will be 1925 :D
15:40 < BobTheWikipedian> just think of the possibilities!
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15:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pd is life+70
15:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ???
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15:40 < BobTheWikipedian> 20s music will become popular again in the 2020s
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15:41 < SigmaWP> BobTheWikipedian: So many coal ball sources will be available for copy/pasting in 2021
15:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.
15:41 < BobTheWikipedian> neko - unless it's published
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15:41 < BobTheWikipedian> if it's published, and renewed (as most music was), it's 95 years
15:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ah
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15:42 < BobTheWikipedian> very little music published after 1923 is public domain today
15:42  * BobTheWikipedian goes to petsmart. see ya!
15:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Including happy birthday
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15:43 < benzband> hey guys, cheer up, i shall license my garage recordings for you to listen freely ;)
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15:45 < Tony_Sidaway_> The Mouse will see to it that nothing in copyright is ever public domain again.
15:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no proof that yoour garage recording is in the background of some licensed music
15:45 < Tony_Sidaway_> I've seen this happen before.
15:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> *isnt in
15:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway_ not really
15:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> The mouse will be unwanted in the realm of vocal android revolution
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15:51 < jorm> SigmaWP: What was that for?
15:51 < SigmaWP> Curation toolbar is awesome
15:52 < jorm> thanks!
15:52 < jorm> glad you like it.
15:52  * Ironholds coughs gentl
15:52 < Ironholds> y
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15:54 < benzband> where can i get hold of curation toolbar??
15:54 < Brooklyn> curation toolbar?
15:55 < Ironholds> benzband: [[Special:NewPagesFeed]]
15:55 < Ironholds> open up a page and watch the magic happen
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15:55  * benzband benzband goes to check it out
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15:59 < benzband> <SigmaWP> Curation toolbar is awesome <-- +1
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16:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://xkcd.com/557/
16:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> this is so me!
16:04 < benzband> http://xkcd.com/430/
16:05 < benzband> ToAruShiroiNeko: that kind of dream is a sympton of brain worms
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16:05 < benzband> i'd watch out if i were you http://xkcd.com/719/
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16:06 < BarkingFish> Bendersgame, after the video I watched about 6 hours ago, I'd appreciate you kindly avoiding the topic of brain worms.  It kinda freaked me out. A lot.
16:06 < BarkingFish> sorry - tab fail
16:06 < BarkingFish> ^^ benzband
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16:08 < benzband> ^^
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16:09 < BarkingFish> NSFL coming up
16:09 < BarkingFish> It was a video I found on youtube, referred from reddit -an 11 month old boy with a parasitic roundworm infection, that had basically left him in a coma with severe brain damage.
16:10 < BarkingFish> The worms had found their way into the core of his brain, and basically nommed down on it
16:10 < ChrisGualtieri> This is why I hate speedy people
16:10 < ChrisGualtieri> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Saifullah_Maan&action=history
16:10 < ChrisGualtieri> Within one minute of creation it was PRODed
16:10 -!- Fluff|sleep is now known as Fluffernutter
16:11 < IRWolfie-> ChrisGualtieri: the article doesn't have a chance in hell
16:11 < Dcoetzee|2> IRWolfie-: They didn't even have time to finish writing it though :-P
16:11 < IRWolfie-> It's a guy making an article about himself
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16:11 < Dcoetzee|2> Like, they might have had refs they planned to add a few minutes later.
16:11 < gadfium> !steward
16:11 < IRWolfie-> It also contains pretty terrible claims: " he many times accept that the Osama bin Ladin is the hero of this er"
16:11 < IRWolfie-> *era
16:11 < BarkingFish> doesn't matter. first inspection indicates an article about a real person with no sources.
16:12 < foks> gadfium, #wikimedia-stewards is a better bet
16:12 < gadfium> Thanks
16:12 < BarkingFish> if they add sources, they can take the blpprod off
16:12 < BarkingFish> nothing prevents prod removal. it's precautionary
16:12 < ChrisGualtieri> Within one minute though?
16:12 < Dcoetzee|2> I guess, but I still disagree fundamentally with the "all BLPs must have sources" rule.
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16:12 < haggis> Dcoetzee: abuse
16:12 < IRWolfie-> Dcoetzee: so easy to abuse it
16:13 < BarkingFish> Dcoetzee, I don't. I think it's spot on.
16:13 < IRWolfie-> Ironholds did a presentation on it
16:13 < BarkingFish> If you're writing about a real person, prove what you say is true, or take a hike :)
16:13 < IRWolfie-> it is so easily abused
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16:13 < IRWolfie-> and is abused, a lot
16:13 < Dcoetzee> I think BLP's knee jerk reactionism breaks the ability of a new article to develop through collaboration.
16:13 < IRWolfie-> Dcoetzee: in this particular case, nothing can develop
16:13 < Dcoetzee> It's very anti wiki.
16:14 < Dcoetzee> Well in this particular case yes :-P
16:14 < ChrisGualtieri> The article might not have a chance, but the process is the problem
16:14 < IRWolfie-> A better idea might be to have a process to put it on the users user page or something
16:14 < benzband> BarkingFish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicrocoelium_dendriticum freaking awful
16:14 < IRWolfie-> let them keep their little bit about themselves while they settle in
16:14 < ChrisGualtieri> It seems to be a COI matter, but no one addresses the matter
16:14 < Dcoetzee> The general point is, we're expecting every author of a new article to conform to a strict set of rules in biographies, even newbies lacking the experience and technical skills to do so.
16:15 < ChrisGualtieri> Its all impersonal notices on the users page
16:15 < IRWolfie-> Is the glorification of Osama Bin Laden legal in the US?
16:15 < Dcoetzee> And the article isn't around long enough for anyone else who cares about the subject to notice and pitch in.
16:15 < ChrisGualtieri> Dcoetzee... I'm contesting the grounds on a 1 minute BLP prod or speedy, but the fact that its a COI and no one has reached out to the user is a fundamental problem with keeping newbies
16:16 < ChrisGualtieri> This is written just like a Facebook bio
16:16 < BarkingFish> benzband, this is what that child had: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascaris_lumbricoides
16:16 < IRWolfie-> ChrisGualtieri: I agree on that point: personal communication skills are needed when you speedy
16:16 < benzband> BarkingFish: omg "One quarter of the human population is estimated to be infected by this parasite.[1]"
16:16 < Dcoetzee> I'll agree about that too. Although this would have been averted if all new articles for steered through AfC or a similar process.
16:17 < Dcoetzee> Then they would've gotten clearer feedback in the review process, and there wouldn't be the same sense of urgency.
16:17 < SigmaWP> A spider landed on my face
16:17 < BarkingFish> benzband, yep - but funnily enough, only 14 cases of direct infection have ever been reported in the US, where this kid was from.
16:17 < Dcoetzee> Although in practice AfC responses tend to also be very templatey...
16:18 < LikeLakers2> what'd you do SigmaWP
16:18 < SigmaWP> I sat in the wrong spot.
16:18 < benzband> BarkingFish: the next sentence might explain it: "Ascariasis is prevalent worldwide and more so in tropical and subtropical countries."
16:18 < BarkingFish> yeah
16:18 < LikeLakers2> no I meant after the spider landed on your face
16:18 < ChrisGualtieri> There, I put out a nice personal message
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16:18 < BarkingFish> Still, bloody unpleasant to have shitloads of these things sitting inside your brain, nomming on it from the inside outwards, benzband
16:18 < SigmaWP> I tried to brush it off
16:18 < LikeLakers2> and?
16:19 < LikeLakers2> :P
16:19 < SigmaWP> It was more like facepalming than anything :P
16:19 < LikeLakers2> lol
16:19 < benzband> BarkingFish: that i do not doubt. it must be horrible. :(
16:20 < BarkingFish> SigmaWP, don't do what my friend at Uni did during a lecture :)   He had a bluebottle which had been pissing most of the people in the lecture theatre for about an hour, land in his lap. He swatted the thing with his hand, and went down like a ton of bricks.
16:20 < ChrisGualtieri> Wow... the guy cannot even blank his own userpage without  someone warning him
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16:20 < IRWolfie-> Dcoetzee: it seems from his talk page this isn't the first time this has happened with this editor
16:20 < Dcoetzee> :-/
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16:21 < SigmaWP> BarkingFish: I'll try to remember that
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16:21 < BarkingFish> ChrisGualtieri, one of the signs of the up and coming vandal - blanking your userpage after warnings, to make it look like you've done nothing wrong :P
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16:21 < ChrisGualtieri> BarkingFish: Please take a look at the users
16:21 < IRWolfie-> he seems to have had two articles speedied
16:21 < ChrisGualtieri> He made an account Saifullah Maan
16:21 < IRWolfie-> not sure if one was a recreation
16:22 < ChrisGualtieri> He created the article with the same content and article as on Saif313's account
16:22 < IRWolfie-> looks like a sock puppet
16:22 < ChrisGualtieri> He blanked his old account (probably unable to access it)
16:22 < ChrisGualtieri> >.> This is clearly the SAME person, not a sock
16:22 < ChrisGualtieri> He hasn't used the other one for years.
16:22 < IRWolfie-> he refers to himself in the third person then
16:23 < IRWolfie-> This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (it is a biographical fact about our leader and it is the only platform to aware the new generation about him. the refrence of authenticity is also provided.)
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16:23 < BarkingFish> bin
16:23 < BarkingFish> file under N for "No"
16:24 < BarkingFish> evening fabriceflorin :)
16:24 < ChrisGualtieri> I'm just pointing out how impersonal and foreign the mess is, yet we instantly attribute that newbies know everything
16:24 < BarkingFish> as they rightly should.
16:24 < BarkingFish> if you're going to edit, learn how :)
16:25 < ChrisGualtieri> I know you are joking, but in practice this a classic case of shoot first, ask questions later
16:25 < benzband> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_no_clue
16:25 < IRWolfie-> ChrisGualtieri: the main problem is there are too many notices on the page
16:25 < IRWolfie-> the users page that is
16:25 < ChrisGualtieri> XD
16:25 < ChrisGualtieri> I'll be right back
16:25 < BarkingFish> Who said I was joking? I was smiling, because it's true.
16:25 < fabriceflorin> Good evening BarkingFish ! Nice to meet you.
16:25 < haggis> @admin
16:25 < haggis> hello
16:25 < haggis> i need halp
16:25 < BarkingFish> fabriceflorin, we have already met, previously - but hello :D
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16:26 < haggis> halp
16:26 < Fluffernutter> what did you break, haggis
16:26 < benzband> haggis, what do you need help with?
16:26 < haggis> Fluffernutter: it's what you broke.
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16:26 < haggis> gadfium can't get into -admins
16:26 < haggis> fix it.
16:26 < Fluffernutter> you don't need an admin for that
16:27 < Fluffernutter> you need someone with superops to the admin channel
16:27 < haggis> and admins know that
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16:27 < BarkingFish> fabriceflorin, i'm the guy from newstrust who mailed you after your takeover by poynter :P
16:27 < Fluffernutter> which is basically "no one you've ever heard of, and also Snowolf"
16:27 < haggis> because they had to find them before
16:27 < haggis> Snowolf!
16:27 < haggis> ZOMG
16:27 < LikeLakers2> wow
16:27 < haggis> he's my bro
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16:27 < LikeLakers2> [[Saifullah Maan]] has both a BLP PROD and a CSD tag
16:28 < BarkingFish> LikeLakers2, it's a case of if one fails, the other one will get it, failing that, it heads for afd
16:28 < LikeLakers2> well
16:28 < fabriceflorin> Hi BarkingFish, good to reconnect with you in this new setting! Could you remind me which name you used when emailing me about NewsTrust.net ?
16:28 < LikeLakers2> the CSD is good
16:28 < BarkingFish> hm. lemme go back over my entries, fabriceflorin - i think it's still in email somewhere
16:28 < LikeLakers2> because I see no links in the main text
16:29 < LikeLakers2> and usually I tend to see those be deleted pages
16:30 < BarkingFish> fabriceflorin, it would have been the same name as I use here....  http://www.newstrust.net/stories/7891504/reviews/181321?ref=mp
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16:30 < LikeLakers2> that
16:30 < LikeLakers2> and the fact that almost every sentance begins with the word "he"
16:30 < BarkingFish> it's autobiographical, LikeLakers2
16:30 < BarkingFish> or it's meant to be
16:31 < LikeLakers2> ok
16:31 < LikeLakers2> also, wow the image tells a lot
16:31 < LikeLakers2> [[File:Saif.jpg]]
16:31 < IRWolfie-> I've tidied the text up a bit so it's easier for the new editor to read
16:32 < LikeLakers2> he's definetally made multiple socks, thats for sure
16:32 < IRWolfie-> there was 11k of new text for him to read: way way too much
16:32 < LikeLakers2> I assume to avoid being banned for too many warnings, a thing I'd assume is a lot of sockmaster's reasoning is
16:32 < IRWolfie-> LikeLakers2: he seems determined to break every policy and guideline :>
16:32 < BarkingFish> Frood, any idea why OG is offline?
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16:33 < fabriceflorin> BarkingFish: Very cool. What a small world ;o) I'm here in my new role as product manager for Wikipedia editor engagement tools, but will dig up your NewsTrust email and follow up later tonight. Was there a specific question I can answer quickly here?
16:33 < BarkingFish> no, that's fine fabriceflorin
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16:34 < BarkingFish> i was the one who left over the concerns with impartiality under the takeover, more stories about poynter, etc...
16:34 < BarkingFish> completely unfounded, in retrospect, but it was just a concern I had at the time
16:34 < LikeLakers2> :O
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16:34 < LikeLakers2> I actually made an edit just now
16:35 < LikeLakers2> Who am I and what have I done with myself?! :P
16:35 < IRWolfie-> I think the main problem with editor rention is that most new editors don't want to be retained
16:35 < IRWolfie-> they want to make a specific article/series of edits and that is all
16:35 < BarkingFish> IRWolfie-, the main problem is simple. The editors who want to stay, start out the wrong way - by trying to jump into everything in one go, and making a dog's lunch of the whole thing.
16:35 < WilliamH_UK> IRWolfie- correct
16:36 < benzband> IRWolfie-, comon all you need to do is introduce them to the pleasures of noob-bashing then they'll enjoy themselves and want to stay
16:36 < fabriceflorin> BarkingFish: Yes, that was a good point, though I haven't seen this to be an issue since you brought it up. These folks are very competent and ethical journalists, and are sensitive to this issue. I did put up one of there stories on the home page when we announced the transition, so people would be aware of their work. But that was a one-time occurrence, and it came from me, not them ;o)
16:36 < BarkingFish> The ones that don't want to be retained don't bother reading anything, and just go hell for leather until they get blocked.
16:36 < IRWolfie-> benzband: I have no issue with new editors. It doesn't make my statement not true
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16:37 < LikeLakers2> BarkingFish, is the template on the image used in the Saif article good?
16:37 < benzband> IRWolfie- that was not a serious comment
16:37 < LikeLakers2> [[File:Saif.jpg]]
16:38 < BarkingFish> IRWolfie-, you and I, i just realized, have nothing in common :P  I have a lot of problems with new editors, unless they genuinely show willingness to learn, read and digest what we give them to understand, most will lemming themselves into oblivion.
16:38 < LikeLakers2> +++
16:38 < LikeLakers2> oops, water bottle fell onto the keyboard
16:38 < Bendersgame> BarkingFish: mmmm brain worms
16:38 < BarkingFish> and that image of the dude is terrible, LikeLakers2
16:38 < benzband> BarkingFish, what about your first steps on Wikipedia?
16:38 < BarkingFish> Yeah, sorry about that benzband
16:38 < LikeLakers2> BarkingFish: is the template used good though?
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16:39 < BarkingFish> I got picked up on one thing, benzband - i did something wrong when I uploaded an image.  After that, i bogged off and read how I was supposed to do stuff.
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16:39 < BarkingFish> i uploaded a pic and forgot to license it, i think
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16:40 < BarkingFish> the template works fine, LikeLakers2
16:40 < LikeLakers2> ok
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16:41 < LikeLakers2> though, if it is from facebook, shouldn't it link to the facebook page for the image?
16:41 < benzband> nobody even welcomed me, BarkingFish. not even any fancy warnings.
16:41 < BarkingFish> We used to have the welcome committee, I don't know if we still do though.
16:42 < BarkingFish> Wikinews has an automatic welcome bot - regardless of whether you intend to use the account or not, you get welcomed
16:42 < BarkingFish> maybe we should have one of them.
16:42 < benzband> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee
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16:43 < benzband> BarkingFish yeah commons too
16:43 < SoapX> welcome bots are controversial
16:43 < benzband> SoapX ?
16:43 < SoapX> Im pretty sure at least one person got blocked for running one here. Granted, though, unauthorized bots in general are blocked here
16:43 < BarkingFish> so is having people coming and saying "nobody welcomed me when I joined", SoapX
16:43 < LikeLakers2> hah
16:43 < LikeLakers2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pyrotronicdisintegrator.gif
16:44 < benzband> though i don't really mind of course ;)
16:44 < LikeLakers2> my userspace is the only userspace to use it
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16:44 < LikeLakers2> otherwise its just mainspace
16:44 < benzband> LikeLakers2 does that thing actually exist?
16:44 < LikeLakers2> what thing?
16:45 < benzband> that laser gun
16:45 < LikeLakers2> idk
16:45 < benzband> lol
16:45 < SoapX> but Im pretty sure a request for a welcome bot on enwiki would be denied
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16:47 < BarkingFish> it was patented, benzband - but i don't think it was ever built
16:47 < benzband> (o__o) patented for Star Trek?
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16:49 < benzband> hi gadfium!
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16:49 < gadfium> Gidday
16:49 < IRWolfie-> didn't realize toys could be patented
16:49 < IRWolfie-> I thought there was an exemption for that
16:51 < benzband> What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a toy
16:51 < SoapX> the human body is patented
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16:53 < benzband> SoapX ??
16:54 < IRWolfie-> benzband: ah sorry
16:54 < IRWolfie-> in reference to the comment earlier, I did not realize you were joking
16:55 < benzband> np
16:55 < Frood> BarkingFish: shut down
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16:55 < IRWolfie-> BarkingFish: yes on the new editors, I'm still not sure I've found a way to stop them doing it
16:55 < BarkingFish> Frood, you serious? OG is finished?
16:55 < benzband> sometimes i only realize what another user meant once the client is quite and i'm in the middle of my meal
16:56 < benzband> *quit
16:56  * benzband looks at clock
16:56  * benzband brain melts
16:57 < IRWolfie-> yar, must go to bed myself
16:57 < benzband> Zomg i better go to bed
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17:02 < Ironholds> GorillaWarfare!
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17:02 < GorillaWarfare> Hey
17:02 < GorillaWarfare> Shit
17:02 < Ironholds> want to hear something cool?
17:02 < GorillaWarfare> Nonono
17:02 < Ironholds> ..?
17:02 < GorillaWarfare> Brb
17:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://xkcd.com/583/
17:02 < Ironholds> well, I've had worse responses from women
17:02 < WilliamH_UK> haha, you got told
17:03 < gadfium> One of my favourite xkcd's
17:03 < GorillaWarfare> Back
17:04 < GorillaWarfare> Sorry, I'm babysitting
17:04 < GorillaWarfare> And I'd just put the kids to bed and they started calling my name
17:04 < GorillaWarfare> Which they always do to avoid sleep
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17:04 < GorillaWarfare> Anyway, Ironholds, yes I would ^^
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17:05 < Ironholds> GorillaWarfare: you know the curation toolbar?
17:05 < GorillaWarfare> I do indeed
17:06 < Ironholds> go open up a new page.
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17:06 < GorillaWarfare> Kk
17:07 < GorillaWarfare> Oh hello there!
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17:07 < Ironholds> quite
17:08 < GorillaWarfare> How's the deployment gone?
17:09 < Ironholds> it went pretty well, except when we found out the templates were signing with 3 tildes
17:09 < Ironholds> or not signing
17:09 < Ironholds> or not linking to talkpages
17:09 < Ironholds> but we fixeded it.
17:09 < GorillaWarfare> Good ^^
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17:10 < Ironholds> and tonight I have whisky and RPGs
17:10  * Ironholds nods firmly
17:10 < Ironholds> also, GorillaWarfare? where the fuck are my birthday wishes?
17:10 < GorillaWarfare> Happy birthday!!!
17:10 < Ironholds> it's not my birthday
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17:10  * GorillaWarfare blows her party horn
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17:10 < Ironholds> herher
17:10 < GorillaWarfare> Well you're no fun
17:11 < Ironholds> sorry. Anyway. it was my birthday yesterday.
17:11 < SoapX> happy birthday !!! ♥♥♥
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17:11 < SoapX> what can we give you as gifts?
17:11 < Ironholds> books? trees? a house!
17:13 < SoapX> how about a solar powered flashlight? you charge it up when it's bright out and use it when it's not
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17:16 < SoapX> http://icons-ak.wunderground.com/data/wximagenew/c/chandyman/108-800.jpg
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17:20 < BarkingFish> <hungry. Gonna go get some more cereal :)
17:21 < BarkingFish> I would have had pizza, but I'm not baking at 1.20 in the morning :P
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17:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish yo
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17:26 < BarkingFish> hi :)
17:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript
17:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dammit
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17:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://xkcd.com/593/
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17:31 < BarkingFish> Can i check - for Wiki cloaks on IRC, if you're active on multiple projects, can you pick Wikimedia as your cloak, as opposed to picking an individual project? Or is the Wikimedia cloak reserved for those who are actually part of the WMF, etc?
17:31 < Theopolisme> No, anyone can use it... right?
17:31 < SoapX> yeah
17:31 < SoapX> anyone can get wikimedia cloaks
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17:32 < BarkingFish> okies, thanks
17:32 < SoapX> well, not literally *anyone*
17:32 < SoapX> they have requirements just like the wikipedia cloaks do
17:32 < SoapX> but there's nothing about being part of the WMF in those requirements
17:32 < Theopolisme> mhm
17:32 < Theopolisme> You just pick it in the form, right?
17:32 < SoapX> I dont know
17:32 < SoapX> I havent done that for 3 years
17:33 < Theopolisme> Ehehe
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17:33 < mysterytrey> I chose wikimedia and i have, like, 3 edits to commons.
17:34 < Tony_Sidaway> When I applied a month ago I had a choice of projects. Wikimedia was among them to the best of my recollection.
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17:34 < Tony_Sidaway> (re cloaks)
17:34 < mysterytrey> But I got wikimedia with few edits outside enwp
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17:36 < GorillaWarfare> Hungry… o.O
17:36 < SoapX> i dont even think there was a "form" for applying for a cloak when I did. and that was just 3 years ago. It must be new
17:36 < SoapX> it should be logged somewhere on my meta edit history
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17:37 < SoapX> hm nope
17:38 < BarkingFish> ah well, cloak request is in, form finished, etc... memo'd the GC's, just gotta sit on my cushions and wait now
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17:39 < SoapX> maybe they just deleted the page i posted on
17:39 < SoapX> also what happened to your friend mark?
17:40 < SoapX> does he ever go online now?
17:40 < SoapX> We miss him
17:40 < BarkingFish> I have no idea - I've not spoken to him for well over a month now.
17:40 < SoapX> ok
17:40 < BarkingFish> We had a .... falling out, shall we say.
17:40 < BarkingFish> I won't go further into that.
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17:41 < SoapX> ok
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17:48 < BarkingFish> Anyone here fluent in spanish please?  I need some help in #freenode - we've a user in there asking something, and my spanish is shite - I can't understand the guy well enough to figure out what he wants :)
17:49 < BarkingFish> please /join #freenode if you can assist - the guy is waiting right now. User Limechat-7723
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17:52 < mysterytrey> Why are you in #freenode?
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17:53 < BarkingFish> to get my old project cloak lifted
17:53 < BarkingFish> Openglobe doesn't exist anymore :(
17:54 < BarkingFish> So I dropped the old cloak and am taking a Wiki one instead
17:54 < jorm> everybody loves curation toolbar, right?
17:54 < Tony_Sidaway> Jorm do you have a link to it?
17:55 < jorm> go to Special:NewPagesFeed and then click review on something.
17:55 < jorm> That will put you into "Curation Mode"
17:55 < jorm> so you'll have the toolbar active until you close it.
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17:55 < Tony_Sidaway> I like it already!
17:56 < mysterytrey> Wait, why are you in #freenode?  That didn't really make sense.
17:56 < BarkingFish> mysterytrey, let me explain. #freenode contains the ops who apply unaffiliated cloaks to users.  When you have a project cloak, if you want it removed, you ask them.
17:56 < gadfium> That curation bar does look good
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17:57 < mysterytrey> Oh.
17:57 < mysterytrey> Cool.
17:57 < BarkingFish> Now my old cloak is removed (openglobe/BarkingFish) - I am back to unaffiliated, and will eventually get a (wikimedia/BarkingFish) when the GC's get around to processing some more :D
17:58 < Tony_Sidaway> Gosh, gadfium. I haven't seen that Wikipedia username in half a decade! Hello!
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17:59 < Tony_Sidaway> Or just another fan of Banks?
18:00 < jorm> it'll be even more awesome with keyboard accellerators.
18:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway why do banks have fans?
18:01 < BarkingFish> to stop the customers getting too hot and punching the staff
18:02 < gadfium> Hello Tony
18:02 < gadfium> I am indeed a Banks' fan
18:03 < gadfium> I've been active on Wikipedia for about 8 years now. Just haven't crossed paths with you for a while
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18:04 < Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: it's the name of a character, s mathematician if I recall correctly, in Fearsum Endjinn by Iain M Banks.
18:05 < gadfium> She was chief scientist
18:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to wrap my head around http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript
18:06 < jorm> ah, the voynich manuscript.
18:07 < gadfium> Tony, I recall you once used an alias very much in the flavour of Culture ship names
18:09 < Tony_Sidaway> I had to stop that because people complained that the name was too long. It was a minor character from Excession
18:09 < Tony_Sidaway> Anticipation of a New Lover's Arrival, The
18:12 < Tony_Sidaway> All spaceships should (a) talk and (b) be far more intelligent than any human.
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18:13 < SigmaWP> Has anyone considered that someone put unreadable crap on the voynich manuscript just to troll anyone who wanted to decode it?
18:13 < gadfium> Not just spaceships. Although I draw the line at toasters (eg Red Dwarf's Talkie Toaster)
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18:15 < BarkingFish> okies, it's late, i'm gonna head out for the night. see ya round :)
18:15 < SoapX> bye
18:15 < BarkingFish> bbfn SoapX
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18:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> jorm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgALlSPlZC8
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18:18 < SigmaWP> https://xkcd.com/612/
18:18 < SigmaWP> So true
18:19 < Tony_Sidaway> I have an audio copy of Surface Detail. I'm still in two minds about finding Demeisen one of Banks' most fascinating characters.  Peter Kenny narrates his parts with a great deal of David Tennant-like charm.
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18:20 < jorm> i just finished reading all of those.
18:20 < jorm> i'm totally suprised that i hadn't before now.  like, i seriously had read NONE of his sci-fi.
18:20 < jorm> Only "The Bridge" and "The Wasp Factory"
18:20 < gadfium> I read Stonemouth a few weeks ago. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
18:21 < Tony_Sidaway> He's funny and intelligent like the Tenth Doctor, if the Tenth Doctor were a superintelligent machine designed to fight wars.
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18:22 < GorillaWarfare> Oh sweet jesus
18:22 < GorillaWarfare> Going to Denny's after I finish babysitting
18:22 < GorillaWarfare> Best day ever
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18:24 < jorm> you have an interesting definition of "best day ever"
18:24 < SigmaWP> ^
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18:25 < gadfium> I can confidently say that all my best days do not involve Dennys. Babysitting did once result in a best day.
18:26 < jorm> Currently, my most epic day was November 28, 2011.
18:27 < SoapX> What happened then?
18:27 < SoapX> was that Thanksgiving?
18:28 < jorm> Well.  It was the day after I did an AMA on reddit.  and it made the news, all over the place.  I got an apology from techcrunch for calling me "creepy"; I was in time magazine, variety, etc.  I earned about a million dollars for the Foundation.
18:28 < TeeTylerToe> maybe the Gorilla fighting is quieter in Denny's
18:28 < jorm> It was also my birthday.
18:28 < jorm> And (this is the killer):
18:28 < jorm> Stacey agreed to become my wife.
18:29 < gadfium> I think that qualifies
18:29 < jorm> That was the day that the ring i designed for her arrived in the post.
18:29 < Tony_Sidaway> Great day!
18:29 < jorm> i had it constructed, atom by atom, out of silver.
18:29 < SoapX> a million dollars? whoa
18:29 < SoapX> ok
18:29 < SoapX> and you got married
18:29 < SoapX> Cant beat that
18:29 < jorm> over the course of the fundraiser, i made 8.2 million dollars.
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18:30 < jorm> well.  we didn't get married until march.  but still.
18:30  * the_derp hugs y'all
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18:34 < Isarra> Hey fluffernutter, could you semiprotect my sockpuppet's talkpage for me?
18:35 < Isarra> I mean, my alternate account.
18:35 < Isarra> Perfectly legitimate alternate account.
18:35 < Fluffernutter> one sec, busybusy
18:37 < Fluffernutter> ok, link?
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18:37 < Tony_Sidaway> For me the birth of my first child has seldom been equalled. Graduation of the same child, perhaps.
18:38 < Isarra> This. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Isarra_(HG)
18:38 < Isarra> IPs almost always vandalise it. The intelligent ones manage to find my main one just fine. >.<
18:38 < Fluffernutter> done
18:39 < Isarra> <3
18:39 < Isarra> Thank you.
18:40 < GorillaWarfare> Late, but jorm, that sounds like a pretty great day ^^
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18:42 < Logan_> Hi NuclearWarfare.
18:42 < NuclearWarfare> hello
18:43 < Tony_Sidaway> Surface Detail is a hoot, which is surprising considering it starts off with a murder.
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18:44 < Tony_Sidaway> And even more surprising considering that much of it takes place in a truly harrowing hell.
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19:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> we need an Isarra (HD)
19:05  * Isarra looms overhead.
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19:21 < SigmaWP> 'token': 'b100d4b7a700e9d727fbd2f89f963f67'}
19:21 < SigmaWP> Heh
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19:24 < jorm> so, those of you using the curation toolbar.
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19:24  * SigmaWP prods Isarra 
19:24 < Isarra> Hmm?
19:24 < jorm> if you find yourself reaching for twinkle, can you stop for a moment and figure out why that is, and then let me know?
19:24 < SigmaWP> jorm: CSD logging :P
19:25 < jorm> werkin' on it.
19:25 < SigmaWP> Yay
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19:26 < Isarra> Twinkle is integrated into the existing interface. The curation toolbar isn't.
19:26 < SigmaWP> Thanks
19:26 < Isarra> I could say more, but I want to be polite for a change
19:26 < Isarra> .
19:27 < Isarra> Suffice to say my initial response was to make it go away as quickly as possible, however.
19:27 < jorm> we're going to get it into the sidebar.
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19:28 < Isarra> The sidebar on the other side of the page?
19:28  * Peter-C licks GorillaWarfare
19:28  * Peter-C runs
19:28 < GorillaWarfare> Whoa
19:28 < GorillaWarfare> I'm still on IRC
19:28 < Peter-C> :o
19:28 < Peter-C> nowai
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19:28 < NuclearWarfare> A now-good friend of mine once licked me on the elbow
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19:28 < NuclearWarfare> We were introduced eighteen months later
19:28 < SigmaWP> 'token': 'b100d4b7a700e9d727fbd2f89f963f67'}
19:29 < SigmaWP> That's a cruel thing to do
19:29 < NuclearWarfare> They were proving a point
19:29 < NuclearWarfare> I didn't notice at all
19:29 < GorillaWarfare> I'm not really paying attention to much other than if these kids' parents are driving in...
19:29 < GorillaWarfare> Need. Pancakes.
19:29 < Isarra> Pancakes. o__o
19:29  * Isarra runs off.
19:29 < Peter-C> GorillaWarfare + NuclearWarfare in IRC = confusing
19:29 < NuclearWarfare> lemme fix that
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19:29 < GorillaWarfare> We do what we can
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19:30 < GorillaWarfare> Oh noez! Look what you've done!
19:30 < Frood> Peter-C: you suck go away
19:30 < NuclearWarfare> This channel has conference mode anyway, doesn't it
19:30 < Peter-C> :o
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19:31 < SigmaWP> Depends on the client
19:32 < Frood> NuclearWarfare: no?
19:32 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP, Frood: hey!
19:32 < SigmaWP> Sp33dyphil: Hi.
19:32 < SigmaWP> Debugging is annoying.
19:32 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP: hope you're going well.
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19:33 < Frood> Hi.
19:34 < Sp33dyphil> Frood: I'm happy to announce that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III is basically complete
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19:35 < Sp33dyphil> hey SigmaWP, did you follow Google I/O six weeks ago?
19:35 < GorillaWarfare> What's conference mode?
19:36 < SigmaWP> Sp33dyphil: Input/Output?
19:36 < Sp33dyphil> the conference in SF
19:36 < Sp33dyphil> yes
19:36 < SigmaWP> I am not aware of any Google-related conferences
19:37 < Sp33dyphil> you're saying that you've never heard of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_I/O even tho you live in SF?
19:38  * SoapX nominates [[Samsung_Galaxy_S_III]] for speedy deletion as an infringment of [[iPhone]]
19:38 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP: ^
19:39 < Logan_> HI FROOD
19:39 < Sp33dyphil> SoapX: that'll be the Galaxy S
19:39 < Frood> HI LOGAN
19:39 < SigmaWP> Yup
19:39 < Logan_> Lawyers designed the Galaxy S III.
19:39 < Logan_> It's nothing like an iPhone.
19:39 < Frood> what Logan_ said
19:39 < Frood> i was typing it
19:39 < Logan_> For better or for worse.
19:39 < Frood> but yeah, lawyers basically designed it and designers polished it
19:39 < Frood> its quality is sub-par
19:39 < Frood> but the specs are awesome
19:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm?
19:40 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP: I mean, I've been watching a few I/O videos on youtube
19:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I think both are stealing from the PADD of TNG
19:40 < Frood> the fake brushed aluminum really gets me.
19:40 < Sp33dyphil> and it got me thinking
19:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> therefore Paramount owns the copyright
19:40 < Logan_> Frood: You and your brushed aluminum. :P
19:40 < Sp33dyphil> Frood: liquid metal ftw! *Microsoft Surface*
19:41 < Frood> Logan_: I hate it
19:41 < Frood> But I love it.
19:41 < SigmaWP> Those sorts of things encourage people to consume rather than create
19:41 < Logan_> You told me.
19:41 < SigmaWP> According to that one guy
19:41 < Frood> If they gloss it with something it's okay
19:41 < Frood> If not, I hate it.
19:41 < SigmaWP> ./ctcp Frood version
19:41 < Logan_> Frood: I have the same thing with styrofoam.
19:41 < Frood> like, a clear coat of paint
19:41 < SigmaWP> Frood: What client are you using on what OS?
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19:41 < Frood> that fixes it
19:41  * Frood ** WinSys ** Client: XChat-WDK 1508-3 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate  ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz (3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 8025 MB Total (3040 MB Free) ** VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics ** Uptime: 128.78 Hours **
19:42 < Logan_> Frood: when a finger nail scratches on styrofoam
19:42 < Logan_> it makes me shiver
19:42 < SigmaWP> I thought you had debian ;-;
19:42 < Frood> Logan_: also dry hands on freshly-washed dishes
19:42 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuC0i4xTyrI
19:42 < Sp33dyphil> Frood: ^
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19:43 < Logan_> Frood: STOP
19:43 < Frood> Logan_: what
19:43 < Logan_> you are putting noises in my head
19:43 < Logan_> bad noises :(
19:43  * Logan_ hits Frood with a frying pan
19:44 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: I have the Nexus 7.
19:44 < Logan_> And a Galaxy Nexus.
19:44 < Logan_> I'm all Nexus'd out.
19:44 < mareklug> Frood:  but you were so happy w/ the phone.  now you're saying it's bad design?
19:44 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP: how hard is it to write a simple app for Android, and what language would I need to learn?
19:44 < Logan_> It's a hideous phone.
19:44 < Frood> mareklug: Yes.
19:44 < Logan_> But it's fast.
19:44 < SigmaWP> Sp33dyphil: Java or something
19:44 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: Java
19:44 < Frood> The phone is amazing
19:44 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_ BRAVO!
19:45 < Frood> But the design is pretty bad
19:45 < Logan_> Frood: but it's ugly
19:45 < Frood> It's cheaply built
19:45 < Frood> But it makes up for that with the specs
19:45 < Logan_> all plastic
19:45 < SigmaWP> public class Hello world { function main(String[] args and *other **shit) { system.out.println("Hello world"); } }
19:45 < Sp33dyphil> Frood: wat's cheap and ugly?
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19:45  * Sp33dyphil has got to learn Java
19:46 < SigmaWP> Have fun
19:46 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: S2 vs Galaxy Nexus, which one is the overall winner?
19:46 < Logan_> Galaxy Nexus, of course
19:47 < Logan_> but vs. the S3, it's a bit iffy
19:47 < Sp33dyphil> testify.
19:47 < Frood> dual-core
19:47 < Sp33dyphil> Frood: you're not happy with S3?
19:47 < Frood> Google's dev phone
19:47 < Frood> Sp33dyphil: I'm very happy with it
19:47 < Frood> But it's built cheaply.
19:47 < Frood> Completely plastic
19:48 < Sp33dyphil> ^ positive or negative?
19:48 < Frood> negative...
19:48 < SoapX> hm
19:48 < Sp33dyphil> Frood: any other negatives?
19:49 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: how are you finding the Nexus 7?
19:49 < SoapX> poor signal strength, Ive heard
19:49 < SoapX> on the S3
19:49 < Sp33dyphil> ^ yep
19:49 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: it's awesome
19:49 < Logan_> I wish it had 4G, but I guess that's what my phone is for
19:50 < Sp33dyphil> glad to hear! I'm collecting sources prior to a revamp of [[Nexus 7]]
19:50 < SigmaWP> \O/
19:50 < SigmaWP> \o/
19:50 < Frood> you have a huge head
19:50  * SigmaWP slowly claps at Frood 
19:50 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP: I get that a lot! *Sp33dyphil knows he's awesome*
19:50 < Sp33dyphil> jk
19:50 < Logan_> Frood: >:-(
19:51 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: can you take a few photos of your Nexus?
19:51 < Logan_> oh
19:51 < Logan_> SigmaWP:
19:51 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: yes
19:51 < Logan_> I shall take them with my Galaxy Nexus
19:51 < Logan_> to be all meta
19:51 < Logan_> :O there are no pictures of it on Commons
19:51 < Logan_> I shall be the first!
19:51 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: yay! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_7 looks so crap without any photos!
19:51 < Frood> Logan_: then take a picture of your Galaxy Nexus with your Nexus 7
19:52 < Logan_> with my PlayBook!
19:52 < Logan_> or my Chromebook! :P
19:52 < SoapX> how do you like the Playbook?
19:52 < Logan_> it sucks
19:52 < Logan_> but it was free
19:52 < SoapX> ok
19:52 < Logan_> so what gives
19:52 < SigmaWP> I am going to create the first Python 3 MediaWiki API framework.
19:52 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: can you take a photo of both Nexuses at the same time?
19:52 < SoapX> free?
19:52 < Frood> OH Logan_
19:52 < Logan_> I get free stuff
19:52 < Logan_> nbd
19:52 < Frood> today I saw someone use an iPad for recording a video
19:52 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: yus
19:52 < Frood> But he looked redic
19:52 < Logan_> Frood: ugh
19:52 < SoapX> ok
19:53 < SoapX> frood, yeah me too
19:53 < Logan_> SoapX: I got the PlayBook for free because I developed an app for it
19:53 < Logan_> that's how desperate RIM is
19:53 < SoapX> I work in a mall and we see people recording their kids with iPads sometimes
19:53 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: Is a wood surface okay?
19:53 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_; you're a developer? Nice
19:54 < Logan_> I shall take the pictures with my Droid Incredible
19:54 < Logan_> it is settled
19:54 < SoapX> i wonder what are the chances I'd get a free iPad if I wrote an app for it
19:54 < Logan_> slim to none :P
19:54 < Frood> SoapX: none.
19:54 < Sp33dyphil> gtg
19:54 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: wood would be fine
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19:55 < SigmaWP> jorm: I think the edit summary for curation should include if you added a deletion tag or not
19:55 < SigmaWP> To make things easier when scanning contribs
19:56 < Logan_> I have to clean off the screens
19:56 < Logan_> brb
20:00 < SigmaWP> Who wants to help me take the coal balls to FA? :D
20:01 < Frood> nobody
20:02 < Logan_> okay, so I have pics
20:02 < Logan_> un segundo por favor
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20:02  * Logan_ picks the best ones
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20:05 < Gfoley4> Dwight Howard to the Lakers. -_-
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20:06 < Frood> Dwight Schrute to The Office ^_^
20:07 < Gfoley4> I thought he was leaving The office
20:07 < mareklug> Orlando clearly does not care to be competitive anymore
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20:08 < Matthew_> Gfoley4: You want to give me a hand, I need either a delete or a histmerge.
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20:08 < Matthew_> *hand?
20:08 < Gfoley4> mareklug: the nets deal looks better than this
20:09 < Gfoley4> Matthew_: yeah sure. I'm a little rusty on histmerges though
20:09 < Frood> Gfoley4: delete and run
20:09 < Frood> that's all you do
20:09 < SigmaWP> Gfoley4: Delete, move, delete, undelete
20:09 < Frood> delete and run
20:09 < Gfoley4> Frood: "and Rainn Wilson will appear in at least 13 episodes before leaving for the planned Dwight spin-off."
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20:10 < Matthew_> Gfoley4: That's OK, it's a copy-paste move: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Gold_%26_Bones_Part_1 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/House_of_Gold_%26_Bones_Part_1  The article should probably be in the AfC area.
20:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Isarra: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/17/parents-name-child-dovahkiin-earn-a-lifetimes-worth-of-bethesda-games/
20:11 < Matthew_> Frood: Actually, a csd on the main article wouldn't be a bad option, but I'm trying to be nice
20:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> O_O
20:11 < LtNOWIS> Is anyone else not seeing lines here anymore?
20:11 < LtNOWIS> er, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Harry_Potter
20:11 < LtNOWIS> I think I broke it with DAB solver
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20:12 < Matthew_> LtNOWIS: Looking...
20:12 < mareklug> LtNOWIS:  you mean on the table?  indeed, no lines.
20:12 < LtNOWIS> alright, I think I can fix it
20:13 < Matthew_> LtNOWIS: You removed the border declaration from the table XD
20:13 < LtNOWIS> that'll teach me to not use preview with DAB solver
20:13 < Gfoley4> Matthew_: it's back at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/House_of_Gold_%26_Bones_Part_1
20:14 < Matthew_> Gfoley4: Thank you. :)
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20:14 < Gfoley4> It's cool.
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20:33 < Logan_> Frood mareklug http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_7
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20:34 < Isarra> PING?!
20:34 < Isarra> Also chicken.
20:35 < Isarra> And lemur toes. They've gotten loose in the priory again.
20:35 < mareklug> not sure the wood bckg adds to clarity.  i'd crop it out altogether
20:37 < Isarra> Ghack, I'm in the wrong channel again.
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20:39 < BlastHardcheese> OR ARE YOU
20:40 < Isarra> Pretty sure this channel is for an encyclopedia that happens to be a pile of words put together in some particular order.
20:41 < Matthew_> Wait, there was an order?  I've just been putting them in randomly...
20:41 < Shirik> ^
20:41 < Isarra> Oh.
20:41 < Isarra> Hmm.
20:41 < Isarra> Fnurdletoot?
20:41 < Shirik> that's not a word
20:41 < Shirik> you have to use words
20:41 < Shirik> there's just no order
20:41 < Isarra> Then this is the wrong encyclopedia.
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20:42  * Isarra wanders off in search of apathy in action.
20:42 < Sp33dyphil> LoganCloud: hi, you're Logan_ right?
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20:45 < Logan|Colbert> Sp33dyphil: Hi.
20:45 < Sp33dyphil> huh?
20:46 < Sp33dyphil> are you Logan_?
20:46 < Logan|Colbert> Yes.
20:46 < Logan|Colbert> I am watching the Colbert Report.
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20:46 < Sp33dyphil> Thanks for your photos; I've hid them for now as I need to maintain a "strategic distance" from the article
20:47 < Sp33dyphil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tony1/How_to_improve_your_writing#Attaining_.22strategic_distance.22
20:47 < Logan|Colbert> Oh course.
20:47 < Logan|Colbert> f
20:47 < Logan|Colbert> Do whatever you need.
20:47 < Logan|Colbert> All the pictures are at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Nexus_7 if/when you need them.
20:47 < Logan|Colbert> (Including one with the Nexus 7 and the Galaxy Nexus next to each other).
20:48 < Sp33dyphil> I'm wondering if somebody can photoshop the photos so they'd look similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IPad_3.png without the background?
20:50 < Sp33dyphil> Logan|Colbert: also, in case you have Wifi, can you snap a photo from a similar angle to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IPhone_4S_unboxing_17-10-11.jpg with Google Now running?
20:51 < Logan|Colbert> ok
20:53 < Frood> Does anybody know of an addon that makes all the Youtube comments on Firefox "herp derp" or something?
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20:53 < Frood> I said Firefox
20:53 < Frood> If you suggest the Chrome extension that I know exists, I will kill you.
20:53 < Frood> I said Firefox for a reason.
20:55 < TeeTylerToe> weren't the androids in bladerunner called like nexus 8?
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20:55 < TeeTylerToe> Tyrell corporation Nexus-6
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20:58 < yrtneg> MC WMA/WMF COS : 8.**.**.7 [/:mw:]
21:00 < yrtneg> Calvin Harris FTW
21:03 < Logan|Colbert> Frood: http://labs.tannr.com/projects/herpderp/firefox/1.2/herpderp.xpi
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21:03 < Frood> Logan|Colbert: <3
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21:06 < Logan|Colbert> Sp33dyphil: how's this? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nexus_7_with_Google_Now.jpg
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21:07 < Logan|Colbert> Frood: ^
21:07 < Frood> Logan|Colbert: fapfap
21:07 < Logan|Colbert> ikr
21:08 < Sp33dyphil> Logan|Colbert!: That's wat I wanted! Need to tone down the background tho ;)
21:08 < Logan|Colbert> unfortunately, I don't have any solid white/gray surfaces
21:09 < Logan|Colbert> at least, I don't think I do
21:09 < Logan|Colbert> I guess I could print out a piece of paper
21:09 < Logan|Colbert> and put it on that
21:09 < Sp33dyphil> Logan|Colbert: dont worry
21:09 < Logan|Colbert> ok
21:09 < Sp33dyphil> I'll get rid of it
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21:09 < Logan|Colbert> shouldn't be too difficult
21:09 < Logan|Colbert> just cut around the shadow
21:10 < Logan|Colbert> Frood: I don't know if you noticed
21:10 < Logan|Colbert> but I whited out the town name for the weather
21:10 < Logan|Colbert> :P
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21:10 < Logan|Colbert> it should be in the top left
21:10 < Frood> oh,
21:10 < TeeTylerToe> lorem ipsum?
21:11 < Logan|Colbert> does anyone need PlayBook and/or Chromebook photos? :P
21:12 < Logan|Colbert> wow
21:12 < Logan|Colbert> my PlayBook is the same exact thickness as the Nexus 7
21:12 < Logan|Colbert> but the Nexus 7 looks so much thinner because it is tapered
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21:15 < Sp33dyphil> Logan|Colbert: is the Galaxy Nexus compatible with Samsung Kies?
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21:20 < LtNOWIS> was was Colbert tonight anyways?
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21:25 < Frood> Sp33dyphil: I really doubt it.
21:25 < Frood> The Nexus series is pure Android
21:25 < Frood> pure as in, no extra shit from manufactures
21:25 < Frood> whatsoever
21:25 < Frood> including Kies
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21:26 < Logan_> Frood: ++
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21:44 < Anna_F_afk> im blocked from linkedin
21:44 < Anna_F_afk> pls could someone ;check
21:44 < Anna_F_afk> in.linkedin.com/in/consultshravan
21:44 < Anna_F_afk> looking for a coi editor
21:44 < Anna_F_afk> Shravan shetty
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21:46 < Anna_Frodesiak> ?
21:46 < Anna_Frodesiak> is it him?
21:48 < nprice> why are you blocked from linkedin?  for going on off-wiki witchhunts there?
21:48 < nprice> and yes, that's the guy's name
21:48 < nprice> i'm sure there are plenty of people with that name
21:49 < Anna_Frodesiak> baking powder?
21:49 < nprice> coi is certainly worth cyberstalking someone over
21:49 < Anna_Frodesiak> i am blocked from linkedin because im in china
21:49 < Anna_Frodesiak> this is not a witchunt
21:49 < Anna_Frodesiak> he wants to be unblocked
21:49 < nprice> lol
21:49 < Anna_Frodesiak> trying to figure out if he's conning us
21:50 < nprice> well yes that profile does belong to someone with the same name
21:50 < nprice> i hope that sorts things out
21:50 < Anna_Frodesiak> looking for someone who is professionally editing for Vu TelePresence
21:50 < Anna_Frodesiak> and not disclosing
21:51 < nprice> last update on there he was selling office furniture
21:51 < nprice> sounds like your guy
21:52 < Anna_Frodesiak> why does it sound like my guy?
21:53 < Anna_Frodesiak> looking for the guy who does promo work, not sells furniture
21:56 < Anna_Frodesiak> could you pls check this
21:56 < Anna_Frodesiak> https://plus.google.com/114873023921825838083/about
21:56 < Anna_Frodesiak> also blocked in china
21:57 < Anna_Frodesiak> it comes from googling Devita Saraf  Shravan shetty
21:57 < Anna_Frodesiak> devita is founder of the company
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22:02 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: can you help me sort something else?
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22:04 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: Sure, what's up?
22:05 < Sp33dyphil> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_III&action=history
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22:05 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: Obtund and I can't seem to agree on the placement of references
22:06 < Dynamic> I'm trying to get into the #android-root room but it won't let me in
22:06 < Dynamic> can anyone in here help me with rooting?
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22:08 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: so, who's at fault?
22:09 < Dynamic> does anyone in here know about rooting?
22:09 < Anna_Frodesiak> resoved, thanks :)
22:09 < Logan_> Dynamic: Which device?
22:09 < Sp33dyphil> not really
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22:09 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: Let me look.
22:09 < Dynamic> Samsung Transform Ultra
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22:10 < Dynamic> and I rooted it once before but I got another 1 and now I'm having trouble rooting it now that I downloaded that update
22:10 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: I agree with Obtund.
22:13 < Logan_> Dynamic: Which version of Android are you running?
22:13 < Dynamic> Gingerbread 2.3.6
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22:14 < Logan_> Dynamic: Try this: http://androidforums.com/transform-ultra-all-things-root/559890-video-how-root-your-2-3-6-phone-using-odin-cwm.html
22:15 < Dynamic> I  tried some of the forums but the methods a lot of people explained were like hella confusing
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