User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2011-10-15

Session Start: Sat Oct 15 12:13:18 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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�03[12:13] * Set by SigmaWP!~math@wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma on Sun Oct 09 19:53:27
[12:13] #wikipedia-en url is http://en.wikipedia.org/
[12:13] <Ironholds> Olipro: they mainly focus on LOOOL YOU SUCK COCK
[12:13] <Ironholds> and just like that, derp appears
[12:13] <Ironholds> spooky
�08[12:13] <derp> lovely.
[12:13] <Olipro> "Ironholds? moar liek IronHOLES lolololololol"
[12:13] <wctaiwan> hi derp
�08[12:14] <derp> hello, wctaiwan, dear.
[12:14] <foks> What's Foxtrot anyway :(
[12:14] <doomgiver> callsign?
[12:14] <wctaiwan> It's an awesome comic strip.
�08[12:14] <derp> foxtrot uniform charlie kilo?
[12:14] <wctaiwan> also a type of dance
[12:14] <quanticle> Ironholds: Heisenburg's uncertainty principle states that the act of observing a particle's position changes its momentum, meaning that you can't ever know both a particle's location and momentum at the same time.
[12:14] <foks> I know about the dance.
[12:14] <doomgiver> haha, i see what u did there
[12:14] <Ironholds> quanticle: I know!
[12:14] <foks> :(
[12:14] <wctaiwan> you memorised that derp?
[12:14] <wctaiwan> O_o
[12:14] <Ironholds> quanticle: see, I've got that covered
[12:14] <wctaiwan> you win two internets and an aviation pilot licence :P
[12:14] <Ironholds> because I know that, wherever you are, you're incredibly slow
[12:14] <wctaiwan> -aviation
�08[12:14] <derp> wctaiwan, it's also a song btw
[12:14] <wctaiwan> Oh.
[12:15] <Olipro> you win a cutting of pubic hair and some foul-smelling belly button lint
[12:15] <Olipro> well done!
[12:15] <Ironholds> wctaiwan: speaking as someone who HAS memorised it...
[12:15] <quanticle> Ironholds: Snap!
[12:15] <quanticle> Touche
�08[12:15] <derp> by the bloodhound gang
�08[12:15] <derp> Vulcanize the whoopee stick
�08[12:15] <derp> In the ham wallet
[12:15] <wctaiwan> (also, these Heisenberg jokes are quite good, OR, I have a terrible sense of humour. I suspect it's the latter.)
[12:15] <Ironholds> quanticle: thank you
�08[12:15] <derp> Cattle prod the oyster ditch
�08[12:15] <derp> With the lap rocket
[12:16] <Ironholds> wctaiwan: both, as long as we don't check
[12:16] <wctaiwan> ><
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[12:16] <quanticle> Hahaha
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[12:16] <quanticle> derp: Er, you lost me.
[12:16] <quanticle> Cattle prod the what with the where now?
[12:17] <quanticle> Is that... innuendo? <gasp>
[12:17] <Ironholds> quanticle: did I show you Lights?
[12:17] <closedmouth> i prefer walter white jokes
[12:17] <quanticle> Ironholds: No.
[12:17] <Ironholds> quanticle: http://lights.elliegoulding.com/
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[12:18] <wctaiwan> cool WebGL, crappy song. /me dodges
[12:18] <Ironholds> WebGL-built music video. You can move around the infinitely generated landscape and interact with elements of it, and the usernames of those who retweeted it most recently appear in it
[12:18] <Ironholds> their avatars are merged into the landscape
[12:18] <Ironholds> wctaiwan: shut it, you.
[12:18] <foks> The song is fucking awesome
[12:18] <Trusilver> yeah, I actually like the song
[12:19] <foks> :)
[12:19] <wctaiwan> my tastes are peculiar or bad, either way.
[12:19] <foks> Lemme guess
[12:19] <Ironholds> Trusilver: ditto, and I HATE ellie goulding
[12:19] <foks> Trance, or black metal
[12:19] <Ironholds> foks: I like both of those
[12:19] <foks> You like men.
[12:19] <wctaiwan> No, musicals, harmonious songs, Joe Hisaishi, Baroque.
[12:19] <foks> Define "harmonious"?
[12:19] <quanticle> foks: I rather like trance and black metal as well, though, I really prefer more dubstep now
[12:19] <foks> Fleet Foxes?
[12:20] <wctaiwan> foks: [[Four Chords Song]]
[12:20] <foks> yay 4 dubstep
[12:20] <wctaiwan> damn, no article :(
[12:20] <quanticle> On what, wctaiwan?
[12:20] <Ironholds> foks: and you like being an evolutionary dead-end
[12:20] <Olipro> reminds me mildly of the easter egg flight sim game in Excel 97
[12:20] <quanticle> Ironholds: Huh? Foxes are an evolutionary dead-end?
[12:20] <Ironholds> wctaiwan: ever listened to Corelli?
[12:21] <Ironholds> "La Folia" is basically the epitome of Baroque chamber music
[12:21] <foks> Great, my fucking earphones are fucking up
[12:21] <foks> >:C
[12:21] <wctaiwan> foks: songs that use [[Pop-punk chord progression]] and the chords from Pachelbel's Canon
[12:21] <wctaiwan> Ironholds: I'll give it a listen
[12:22] <foks> wctaiwan, EVERYONE likes those.
[12:22] <foks> :D
[12:22] <foks> Everything released in the last twenty years uses them
[12:22] <wctaiwan> secretly. And then they slam them in YouTube comments :P
[12:22] <foks> Also, yeah, uh, all my music is four-chords.
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[12:22] <foks> (plug: Album out this week! Hopefully!)
[12:22] <Ironholds> foks: YAY!
[12:23] <foks> :DD
[12:23] <foks> I'll let you know, Ironholds.
[12:23] <foks> :)
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[12:23] <Ironholds> foks: <3
[12:24] <quanticle> I appreciate those songs because they remix so well.
[12:24] <quanticle> They're like Lego blocks.
[12:24] <foks> :P
[12:24] <foks> Very true
[12:24] <quanticle> http://mashupbreakdown.com/
[12:24] <wctaiwan> quanticle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I
[12:24] <wctaiwan> that's what that's trying to say, I think :P
[12:24] <foks> I just need to finish mixing a few instrumentals and Im set
[12:24] <quanticle> wctaiwan: Yeah, that's awesome.
[12:25] <wctaiwan> I mean, I knew it was like that, but that was still funny.
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[12:26] <wctaiwan> Ironholds: odd. there are a lot of songs I would recognise but cannot name. I can't even recognise this :(
[12:26] <wctaiwan> it just sounds baroque :P
[12:26] <Ironholds> hah
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Session Close: Sat Oct 15 12:42:25 2011

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Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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Session Start: Sat Oct 15 12:51:07 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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�03[12:51] * Set by SigmaWP!~math@wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma on Sun Oct 09 19:53:27
[12:51] #wikipedia-en url is http://en.wikipedia.org/
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[13:19] <Addihockey10> http://shitthatsirisays.tumblr.com/
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[13:23] <Qcoder00> kylu: ping?
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[13:24] <petan> mabdul|busy: just fyi, some pages can't be moved reason is: Extension hook blocked operation
[13:25] <petan> I have no clue why my bot can't move it while new users could create them
[13:25] <Sven_Manguard> Ironholds: your FA's media review is complete. All good. Time for me to call it a night, it's 1:30 AM local. Bye.
[13:25] <Sven_Manguard> And everyone else, bye!
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[13:28] <petan> it's because of blacklist, interesting that they could create it...
[13:28] <WilliamH_UK> hiya PeterSymonds
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[13:28] <PeterSymonds> Hey WilliamH_UK!
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[13:38] <petan> can someone check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Annekay/LIL_BAHADUR_GURUNG and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ccgalleryinc/JANNICK_DESLAURIERS
[13:39] <petan> those match blacklist I think that shouldn't
[13:39] <petan> so updating a blacklist would do...
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[13:43] <mabdul|busy> petan: they aren't
[13:43] <petan> actually if there is some record it's broken because it allowed users to create it anyway
[13:43] <mabdul|busy> petan: caps is the problem
[13:43] <petan> I know
[13:43] <mabdul|busy> this blacklisting is good
[13:43] <petan> it isn't since it disallow only moving
[13:43] <mabdul|busy> caps recognize 11 big caps and more are blacklisted
[13:44] <petan> fine, why those pages exist then
[13:44] <mabdul|busy> good question
[13:44] <mabdul|busy> because of the move XD
[13:44] <petan> huh?
[13:44] <mabdul|busy> in userspace it is ok
[13:44] <petan> that's what I mean
[13:44] <mabdul|busy> the move is not possible
[13:44] <petan> blacklist is wrong
[13:44] <petan> it should block both or nothing
[13:44] <mabdul|busy> no and yes
[13:45] <mabdul|busy> yeah, right
[13:45] <mabdul|busy> WilliamH_UK: short time
[13:45] <mabdul|busy> ?
[13:45] <mabdul|busy> PeterSymonds: need you 5min
[13:45] <PeterSymonds> Yes SIR.
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[13:45] <petan> ;P
[13:46] <mabdul|busy> PeterSymonds: can you tweak for "us" the blacklist
[13:46] <PeterSymonds> I wouldn't touch the blacklist with a ten foot pole.
[13:46] <PeterSymonds> You're better off with WilliamH_UK.
[13:46] <mabdul|busy> -_-
[13:46] <mabdul|busy> ok
[13:46] <WilliamH_UK> is this en.blacklist
[13:46] <mabdul|busy> yes
[13:46] <foks> PeterSymonds answers to NO MAN
[13:47] <petan> that thing should be done over abusefilter not this
[13:47] <mabdul|busy> why abusef?
[13:47] <petan> because it's easier to maintain
[13:47] <WilliamH_UK> abusefilter would probs be betetr
[13:47] <WilliamH_UK> plus i have to go for dinner :D
[13:47] <WilliamH_UK> cheerio
[13:47] <mabdul|busy> XD
[13:48] <PeterSymonds> Au'revoir.
[13:48] <mabdul|busy> good hunger
[13:48] <petan> PeterSymonds: maybe renaming User:Annekay/LIL BAHADUR GURUNG User:Ccgalleryinc/JANNICK DESLAURIERS to lowercase would do
[13:49] <PeterSymonds> I will shortly.
[13:49] <petan> but update of title blacklist should be done aswel, I will ask for abuse filter rights, maybe if I get it I could fix this
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[13:49] <PeterSymonds> I'll just grant them to you now.
[13:49] <petan> thanks!
[13:50] <petan> I was just searching for a place where to ask...
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[13:50] <mabdul|busy> petan: talkpage of the blacklist
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[13:51] <mattbuck> fyi, vandal - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Whyualwaysdeleteedit
[13:51] <mattbuck> sort of
[13:52] <foks> oh fuck
�06[13:52] * foks pressed the wrong button.
[13:52] <foks> :D
[13:52] <foks> uh
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[13:52] <mattbuck> yeah, you did
[13:53] <foks> Usernameblock regardless
[13:53] <mattbuck> whatever gets them stopped, it's all good
[13:54] <foks> His edits aren't ACTUALLY vandalism
[13:54] <mattbuck> I said sort of
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[13:55] <mabdul|busy> petan: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Titleblacklist
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[13:57] <petan> mabdul|busy: so disallowing the same thing (11+ capitals in title) in all spaces or only user and Wikipedia talk?
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[13:58] <petan> I will check sql of enwp to see if there aren't similar articles
[13:59] <mabdul|busy> *checking*
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[13:59] <mabdul|busy> petan: .*\p{Lu}(\P{L}*\p{Lu}){9}.* <casesensitive | moveonly>  # Disallows moves with more than nine consecutive capital letters
[14:00] <mabdul|busy> petan: so only move is disallowed
[14:00] <mabdul|busy> or catched by the blacklist
[14:00] <petan> that doesn't make sense
[14:00] <mabdul|busy> heh, yeah
[14:00] <petan> filter I am about to create is disallowing even creation of page
[14:00] <mabdul|busy> as I said: request at talk expansion
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[14:04] <tommorris> I'm so going to move a page to OVERNINETHOUSAND printed over and over consecutively for over 9,000 characters.
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[14:10] <petan> mabdul|busy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/history/437
[14:15] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  WP:POINT
[14:16] <Qcoder00> BTW tommorris  Does anyone here have right to create new articles?
[14:17] <Qcoder00> foks :  I've sent you an invite to a channel
[14:18] <foks> I see that
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[14:24] <mabdul> petan: you have abuse filter rights
[14:25] <mabdul> ?
[14:25] <petan> yes
[14:25] <mabdul> would you review my afc addition? XD
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[14:25] <petan> sure
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[14:31] <petan> so if some sysop willing to update blacklist would be around, it would be nice...
[14:34] <foks> Night guys
[14:34] <PeterSymonds> Heh.
[14:34] <PeterSymonds> Not foks then.
[14:34] <foks> Trust me
[14:34] <foks> Me editing the blacklist will not end well
[14:34] <foks> You're better off asking an ACTUAL fox to do it.
[14:34] <foks> Probably.
[14:34] <foks> Night!
[14:34] <PeterSymonds> Oh we did.
[14:34] <PeterSymonds> None around.
[14:35] <foks> They hide
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[14:36] <Fluffernutter> foxen are slippery
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[14:37] <Qcoder00> Good Evening Fluffernutter
[14:38] <tommorris> Qcoder00: she be wanderin' now
[14:38] <Fluff|wanderin> hibye
[14:39] <petan> Fluffy! what about improving your skills... ^^
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[15:29] <tommorris> wowza.
[15:29] <tommorris> larry sanger: "My final idea is that the governance system as defined by the charter is too top-heavy for such a small group of people, and that therefore we should completely scrap it and revert to a looser, more informal sort of organization."
[15:29] <tommorris> ^^ no shit sherlock.
[15:30] <Panyd> Welcome to Wikipedia!
[15:30] <Trusilver> hah
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[15:36] <LauraHale> That's going to happen anyway.
[15:37] <Panyd> True but it's more fun if he unwillingly slips into making a copy of us
[15:39] SpamTunes started.
[15:40] <tommorris> Panyd: not likely to happen
�06[15:41] * tommorris has posted it on RationalWiki
[15:41] <tommorris> "Well, once the horse has bolted, you can close the stable door..."
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[15:43] <geniice> operation editcrime
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[16:04] <geniice> hmm mr "two shirts" harris is a bit of a contrast with "CD-i games from The Legend of Zelda series"
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[16:06] <Steven_Zhang> morning
[16:07] <Steven_Zhang> PeterSymonds: whats the time there?
[16:07] <PeterSymonds> 21:07.
[16:07] <Steven_Zhang> hmmm...
[16:08] <PeterSymonds> Why do you ask?
[16:08] <LauraHale> Morning Steven_Zhang
[16:09] <Steven_Zhang> PeterSymonds: waiting to download Merlin
[16:09] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[16:09] <PeterSymonds> Oh.
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[16:10] <Steven_Zhang> LauraHale: hope is at the separation anxiety age :(
[16:10] <LauraHale> Steven_Zhang: Lost?
[16:10] <Steven_Zhang> no
[16:11] <Steven_Zhang> hope is my 6mth old
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[16:12] <LauraHale> Ah
[16:12] <LauraHale> Gotcha
[16:12] <LauraHale> And not fun
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[16:14] <Steven_Zhang> no
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[16:38] <petan> someone around who know Alpha Quadrant?
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[16:44] <Pilif12p> petan: I've talked to him a bit.
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[16:53] <mabdul> petan: i talk to him and return him from retirement, so at least virtually i know him ;)
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[17:09] <WilliamH_UK> hey fluff
[17:09] <Fluffernutter> hiya
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[17:14] <LauraHale> Morning Fluffernutter
[17:15] <Fluffernutter> g'morning. Or evening. Or anything in between.
[17:16] <tommorris> jorm: just found a weird layout bug with RTL languages
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[17:16] <Fluffernutter> I think that tonight, I shall root my nook
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[17:17] <tommorris> Fluffernutter: sounds very dirty
[17:17] <Fluffernutter> doesn
[17:17] <Fluffernutter> t it?
[17:18] <jorm> hrm. isn't there an SVG someplace of the Wikipedia "W" Form logo?
[17:18] <jorm> what's the bug, tommorris?
[17:19] <tommorris> jorm: I've reported it on Hebrew - http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%97%D7%AA_%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%A9%D7%92%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA#Layout_issue_with_English_preference_setting
[17:19] <tommorris> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10330141/hewiki_rtl.png for screenshot
[17:19] <jorm> nice.  article icons.
[17:20] <jorm> well. people shouldn't be putting those things in that spot.  we can't control that so much.
[17:20] <Fluffernutter> sigh, why can't people write instructions that are usuable by people who don't speak rootese
[17:20] <Logan_> wait fluff
[17:20] <jorm> see, those icons - they're injected by users.  and they have to be *absolutely* positioned.
[17:20] <tommorris> yep
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[17:20] <jorm> so if you're on an RTL wiki, they'll be absolutely positioned to the left.. .. which means that it will overwrite the text setting.
[17:20] <Logan_> Fluffernutter: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barnes_%26_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide <-- pretty understandable
[17:20] <tommorris> I'm wondering if there ought to be a "opposite side of the title bar than the title" CSS which they can use rather than having to use absolute positioning
[17:21] <jorm> well.
[17:21] <jorm> that's a hack upon a hack.
[17:21] <jorm> the real solution is to say "this space is reserved for article icons, put them here" and then let us (the skin masters) manage it.
[17:21] <jorm> but we'll have to go back and fix all the templates and such.
[17:22] <tommorris> indeed, and then convince 700 odd wikis to Do It Right ;-)
[17:22] <Fluffernutter> Logan_, i'm aiming for manual nooter, which is less...destructive to the base software
[17:22] <Logan_> ah
[17:22] <tommorris> anyway, thought I should report rather than ignore
[17:22] <tommorris> even if it means someone else gets to ignore it.
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[17:22] <Fluffernutter> of course, considering the directions just for obtaining the image and burning the SD card look liek this, i might give up on that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987735
[17:23] <Logan_> tommorris: You may want to file a bug for that on Bugzilla... (may get more attention there)
[17:23] <tommorris> indeed
[17:25] <jorm> i would not expect it to garner a lot of attention, but please cc me on the bug (bharris@wikimedia.org)
[17:26] <tommorris> jorm: will do
[17:26] <jorm> it would be useful to get eyeballs on it.
[17:26] <jorm> does anyone have any examples of the wikipedia globe logo being used on a dark background?
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[17:29] <LauraHale> Is it on the outreach materials?
[17:29] <LauraHale> That is really rather blue
[17:29] <LauraHale> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf/
[17:30] <LauraHale> Yeah, globe on black
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[17:35] <tommorris> jorm: done. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31738
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[17:39] <jorm> danke, tommorris.
[17:41] <jorm> i love how hewiki prints my username as "(Jorm (WMF"
[17:41] <jorm> and not even as ")Jorm (WMF" which is how you'd think.
[17:42] <jorm> hebrew has some interesting mechanisms with its writing.  both how people do it manually and also in parsing.
[17:42] <jorm> esp. wrt to numbers.
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[17:42] <tommorris> it's very very weird trying to type English and HTML into a RTL textbox
[17:42] <jorm> if you wanted to write "He was born in 1972 in Jersusalem"
[17:43] <jorm> you have to skip ahead the distance of the number, which is ALWAYS written LTR.
[17:43] <jorm> when handwriting, $DEITY help you if you mean to write 1,000,000 and only give yourself space for 1,000,00
�06[17:43] * tommorris was so tempted to right-click, "Inspect Element" and turn off the direction attribute or CSS. ;-)
�06[17:44] * jorm dearly wishes that someone with design chops had been involved with the projects at an early age.
[17:44] <jorm> we're so tightly coupled to several bad decisions.
[17:44] <tommorris> (only several?)
[17:45] <jorm> take the puzzle globe.  it's awful to use.
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[17:45] <jorm> it's not recognizable at a distance (looks more like AT&T, or maybe the fuckin' *death star*).  it doesn't reduce well.  it doesn't sit well on ANY color except "white"
[17:46] <jorm> its' primary recognition - as a logo - *requires* that the word "Wikipedia" be placed beneath it.
[17:46] <tommorris> it does look rather like the deathstar
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[17:58] <geniice> jorm yup breaks every rule in the graphic design handbook than then some. thing is though for the general public it doesn't suck
[17:59] <Fluffernutter> rooted, fuck yeah
[17:59] <jorm> the foundation logo is a good example of "doing it right"
[17:59] <geniice> jorm borring meaningless logo that could stand for anything?
[17:59] <jorm> anyways.  i'm fucking around with making designing a skin that can work on all three "platforms": browser, tablet, mobile.
[18:00] <jorm> yes.
[18:00] <jorm> we call them "bugs".  Meaningless symbols that can sit in a square.
[18:00] <jorm> some bugs are meaningless but have taken ON meaning (the nike swoosh, for instance)
[18:00] <jorm> others are fucking EXCELLENT, soup-to-nuts (the "Air Jordan" symbol)
[18:01] <geniice> this is a logo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:P%26Aseal.PNG
[18:01] <jorm> our "bug" should be probably the "W".  or maybe a puzzle piece.
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[18:01] <jorm> check out how lovely this is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jumpman_logo.svg
[18:02] <jorm> i remember being filled with rage when they announced that a rasterized, shaded drawing of a penguin was going to be the linux logo.
[18:02] <geniice> jorm so basically you want one of these http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_puzzle_piece_icons ?
[18:03] <jorm> "HAVE NONE OF YOU EVER TAKEN A GRAPHICS DESIGN CLASS?"
[18:03] <jorm> closer. the shading is always bad.
[18:03] <geniice> jorm eh 21st century. Logos that most have to work on the web differ from conventional graphic design
[18:03] <jorm> you have to think that you may need to print it in two colors.  or even one color.
[18:04] <geniice> "print" yes well thats rather the problem
[18:04] <jorm> i end up doing a lot of printing.
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[18:05] <geniice> from the POV of wikipedia it is far more important that the logo work on the web where a conventional logo would look rather bland than on paper
[18:06] <jorm> i'm going to disagree.
[18:06] <jorm> it's more important that the logo work in 16x16 or 20x20 pixels.
[18:06] <geniice> how many pages did wikipedia serve yesterday?
[18:06] <jorm> within two years, about 50% of our traffic is going to be mobile.
[18:06] <jorm> you can't just think "oh, today"
[18:07] <jorm> weirdly, the trend is NOT towards "higher resolution" but "lower resolution".  that doesn't make a lot of sense, but it's there.
[18:07] <jorm> the current logo needs about 60x60 to be recognizable as a puzzle globe.
[18:07] <geniice> we shall see how long that lasts
[18:08] <tommorris> wow, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photomontages_of_the_Wikipedia_logo
[18:08] <jorm> well, even if we crammed an 8 megapixel screen onto a phone, it's still going to look like an amorphous blob.
[18:08] <geniice> still in terms of thinking about today only it's unfortunate at we limited ourselves to 2D and only covered the unaugmented  human visual range but there you go
[18:09] <jorm> i'm having REAL, SERIOUS problems with a tablet design beccuase of it.  it blobs out after about 40px.
[18:09] <jorm> at mobile size, the only thing that's recognizable is the "W"
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[18:11] <geniice> so drop it and use a single puzzle piece like everyone else does on every aplication ever
[18:12] <jorm> well. currently my plan is to change the logo to a different image based on available real estate.
[18:12] <tommorris> oh yeah, that gives me an idea: use Wikipetan as Clippy in something. Make her the Clippy of Huggle. Make her really fucking annoying and whiny.
[18:12] <tommorris> And then in about a version or two, kill her off.
[18:12] <jorm> death to wikipetan.
[18:12] <tommorris> Bingo. No more Wikipetan.
[18:13] <jorm> "I see you're trying to inflate your edit count! Maybe I can help with that!"
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[18:14] <tommorris> I am legally obliged to post this link: http://blogs.oracle.com/marigan/resource/vim.gif
[18:16] <jorm> "and that's why everyone uses EMACS now."
�06[18:17] * tommorris recompiles Vim to remove Microsoft taint. ;-)
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[18:19] <jorm> I know just enough VI to compile emacs.
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[18:19] <FluffTablet> Booyah!
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[18:20] <tommorris> jorm: the "switching back to Vim" mode comes when you are using Vim to edit your emacs config files
[18:20] <jorm> what kind of idiot would do that?
[18:20] <jorm> emacs config files are in lisp.
[18:20] <tommorris> Tim O'Reilly
[18:20] <jorm> well.  there you go.
[18:20] <tommorris> http://oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/ask_tim/1999/unix_editor.html
[18:21] <jorm> i actually don't think i have any emacs configs on my servers anymore.  i just run stock.
[18:21] <tommorris> I only use emacs for one things: editing XML.
[18:22] <tommorris> nxml-mode is genius.
[18:22] <tommorris> but that's only because James Clark is a genius.
[18:23] <tommorris> I have this beautiful dream occasionally where James Clark leaves his beachfront property in Thailand, flies to America and savagely murders all the people responsible for turning XML into a gigantic enterprisey clusterfuck, then puts their heads on pikes outside Oracle's corporate HQ.
[18:23] <jorm> really, though, i do most of my stuff in jEdit.  for the past, like, decade.
�06[18:25] * tommorris has similar dreams about people who design "enterprise wikis".
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[19:01] <Peter-C> LauraHale :D
[19:02] <Peter-C> Can I bother Jay/Bingee?
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[19:10] <Locutus_of_Borg> lol, dumbass
[19:10] <Locutus_of_Borg> http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/epic-fail-photos-ultimate-failing-championship.gif
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�08[19:12] * derp throws raspberries at Fluffernutter
�06[19:12] * Locutus_of_Borg waporizes derp.
[19:12] <Cloveapple> intercepts raspberries
[19:12] <Cloveapple> yum
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[19:14] <Fluffernutter> yes hello
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[19:16] <Locutus_of_Borg> when do I get my OP powers?
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[19:18] <Fluffernutter> right around the time hell freezes over
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[19:20] <Locutus_of_Borg> That can be arranged
[19:20] <Locutus_of_Borg> *evil laugh*
[19:20] <Fluffernutter> yes dear
[19:21] <Locutus_of_Borg> Let's see how well Satan like the cold. :P
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[19:24] <Cloveapple> didn't Dante show hell as a frozen lake?
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[19:30] <Peter-C> Atlantic Crossings: Social Politics in a Progressive Age
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[19:33] <geniice> progress is a myth
[19:34] <Peter-C> You are a myth
[19:34] <geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_town_walls_in_England_and_Wales is starting to look pretty
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[19:35] <Fluffernutter> wikipedia is a myth
[19:36] <Crazy|tired> wikipedia, not truth
[19:36] <Crazy|tired> :P
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�08[19:39] <derp> Wikipedia: savior of high-school guys like Peter-C.
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�08[19:42] <derp> welcome back localhost
�08[19:42] <derp> Logan_
[19:42] <Logan_> dero
[19:42] <Logan_> derp
[19:43] <pticochon> "When the Northern government refused to cooperate, the British government assigning a Belfast newspaper editor to represent Northern Irish interests."
[19:43] <pticochon> oh man
�08[19:43] <derp> howdy pticochon
[19:44] <pticochon> yo herp-a-derp
�08[19:44] <derp> Comment allez-vous?
[19:44] <jorm> ahahahah: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y6OzqPRHjgA/TpgbTDqc27I/AAAAAAABJ-M/QCH1jpnXil8/s1600/iphone-4s-siri-pranks_thumb.jpg
[19:44] <pticochon> i'm not french
[19:44] <pticochon> :)
�08[19:44] <derp> but your nick is :P
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[19:44] <pticochon> yea
[19:44] <pticochon> where are you from derp?
�08[19:45] <derp> Suburbs of Montréal, Canadia
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�08[19:46] <derp> youu, pticochon%
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[19:57] <pticochon> t'es francophone alors?
[19:57] <Addihockey10> Bien oui.
[19:58] <pticochon> derp
[19:58] <Crazy|tired> un peu
�08[19:58] <derp> :)
�08[19:58] <derp> http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
[19:58] <Addihockey10> derp: iPhone4S sucks.
�08[19:58] <derp> Live NYC Occupy
[19:58] <Addihockey10> :-P
�08[19:58] <derp> live stream
�08[19:58] * derp is going out <3
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�08[19:58] <derp|out> pticochon, oui :)
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[19:59] <pticochon> :D
[19:59] <pticochon> moi je suis de marseille
[19:59] <Logan_> Addihockey10: derp works for Google. :P
[20:00] <Addihockey10> heh.
�08[20:00] <derp|out> Logan_, used to.
[20:00] <Addihockey10> derp|out: Restore my AdSense account.
[20:00] <Logan_> oh?
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�08[20:00] <derp|out> contract terminated, signed NDS agreements :)
�08[20:01] <derp|out> it was just a internship :P
[20:01] <Logan_> heh
[20:01] <Addihockey10> derp|out: Become a CollegeHumor intern :-D
�08[20:02] <derp|out> heh :)
�06[20:02] * Betacommand wonders what should be done with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_Uplift_universe_characters
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[20:05] <Locutus_of_Borg> IShadowed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[20:07] <Righteous_Dickin> fluffernutter a quick question if you're there?
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[20:07] <Fluffernutter> uh
[20:08] <Righteous_Dickin> When will  Ironholds
[20:08] <Righteous_Dickin> Be giving you a righteous dicking
[20:08] <Righteous_Dickin> ?
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[20:09] <pticochon> rofl
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[20:11] <Cncplayer> Fluffernutter: ip looks like its dynamic :(
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[20:11] <Betacommand> Fluffernutter: please dont feed the trolls, your supposed it ignore them, otherwise the rest of use loose our laughs
[20:12] <Fluffernutter> ...
[20:12] <franny> Loose laughs sink... giraffes?
�06[20:12] * SigmaWP dumps Fluffernutter into the troll's mouth
[20:12] <pticochon> who's the strongest wikipedian?
�06[20:13] * Cncplayer thinks
[20:13] <SigmaWP> Jimbo of course
�06[20:13] * Crazy|tired wonders how many bodybuilders edit
[20:13] <Cncplayer> hmmm...
[20:13] <pticochon> who would win in a fight
[20:13] <pticochon> jimbo or Fluffernutter
[20:13] <Cncplayer> Jimbo
[20:13] <Fluffernutter> jimbo
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[20:13] <Cncplayer> even he says its impossible
[20:14] <SigmaWP> Jimbo
[20:14] <Logan_> Cncplayer: Who?
[20:14] <Cncplayer> Logan: Fluffernutter
[20:14] <Logan_> he? :|
[20:14] <Logan_> it's "it," because a fluffernutter is a sandwich!
�06[20:15] * Cncplayer runs off and opens Huggle
[20:15] <tommorris> let's see
[20:15] <SigmaWP> Someone wants to increase their edit count
[20:15] <Cncplayer> :|
[20:15] <tommorris> edit counts: Jimbo vs. Fluffernutter --> Fluffernutter wins.
[20:15] <Cncplayer> yes
[20:15] <Logan_> I win.
[20:15] <tommorris> who causes less controversy in the community? Fluffernutter
[20:15] <Cncplayer> I almost won
[20:15] <SigmaWP> tommorris: Talk page traffic: Jimbo
[20:16] <Cncplayer> 2,500 more edits
[20:16] <Fluffernutter> tommorris: in a fight, the person willing to cause the most controversy almost always wins
[20:16] <Crazy|tired> Fluffernutter sad but true
[20:16] <tommorris> and I hear that Jimbo never even had an RfA.
[20:16] <SigmaWP> tommorris: He had many thousands, but in the end they got deleted.
[20:17] <Locutus_of_Borg> So...
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[20:17] <SigmaWP> Locutus_of_Borg: Are you good with zergs?
�06[20:17] * Crazy|tired loads StarCraft
[20:18] <pticochon> oh StarCrap
[20:18] <pticochon> the memories
�06[20:18] * SigmaWP got used to protoss, and is now unable to use anything weak
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[20:18] <Crazy|tired> SigmaWP: agree :)
[20:18] <SigmaWP> pticochon: Spain?
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[20:20] <Peter-C> SigmaWP - I will light your lawn on fire and casually bike away
[20:20] <pticochon> wut
[20:20] <Justin_Bieber> o-o
�06[20:20] * SigmaWP activates cheat codes
[20:21] <SigmaWP> No you won't
[20:21] <Justin_Bieber> Peter-C, aren't you a paramedic? :P
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[20:21] <DarkoNeko> zzz =_=
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[20:21] <Peter-C> Justin_Bieber - no ._.
[20:22] <Peter-C> I'm not even an EMT (yet).
[20:22] <Peter-C> Only because of a small technicality
[20:22] <Peter-C> Namely because I haven't taken the course because I am too "young" to take it
[20:23] <Peter-C> But I have a reserved spot in a class so all is well
�06[20:23] * SigmaWP 's guess of Peter-C's age has dropped from 20 to 17
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[20:24] <tommorris> SigmaWP: still too high
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�06[20:25] * Cncplayer has the sudden urge to say "Die waffen legt an!"
[20:25] <Justin_Bieber> Well... you're something medical right? :P
�06[20:25] * SigmaWP high-fives SDPatrolBot
[20:25] <Justin_Bieber> So... why are you going around lighting people's property on fire? :P
[20:26] <Addihockey10> Justin_Bieber: My battery's roasted it seems.
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[20:26] <Justin_Bieber> Somehow I don't find that all that surprising
[20:26] <Peter-C> Justin_Bieber - I do Emergency Services so I do a lot of things EMTs do, except for looking at patients
[20:28] <Justin_Bieber> Somehow I don't find that all that surprising
[20:28] <Justin_Bieber> er
[20:28] <Justin_Bieber> So... why are you going around lighting people's property on fire? :P
[20:28] <Crazy|tired>  /me wonders too
[20:29] <Crazy|tired> heh
�03[20:29] * Crazy|tired is now known as Crazy|tiiiiiiiii
[20:29] <SigmaWP> red
[20:29] <Peter-C> Obviosuly because I am asking them to homecoming
[20:29] <Peter-C> ._.
[20:29] <Justin_Bieber> That does not compute
�06[20:30] * SigmaWP 's guess of Peter-C's age drops to 16
�06[20:30] * Justin_Bieber 's guess of Peter-C's age drops to 12
[20:30] <Peter-C> watch the first 20 seconds of this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6MOKXm8x50
[20:30] <Peter-C> SigmaWP - 15 actually
[20:30] <Peter-C> I turn 16 soon, THEN I take the EMT course
[20:30] <SigmaWP> With the brainpower of a 10 year old.
[20:30] <Peter-C> As soon as I become an EMT I will have ladies lining up the block for mr! :D
[20:30] <Peter-C> *me
[20:31] <Peter-C> Well that is rude
�06[20:31] * SigmaWP goes back to reading a coal ball paper
�06[20:31] * Crazy|tiiiiiiiii hasn't seen that video in a loong time
[20:32] <Peter-C> I know!
[20:32] <Peter-C> I have no idea why, but I recently got hooked on FoB (again)
[20:33] <Justin_Bieber> yeah, right...
[20:33] <Peter-C> No really, I did become hooked on them again
[20:33] <Justin_Bieber> All the ladies will be lining up all right... to make it so that you need an EMT :P
�06[20:34] * Crazy|tiiiiiiiii was never hooked on Fall out Boy
[20:34] <Mike_H> "What did you think of my mall walk mix?"
[20:34] <Mike_H> "It was fine. I was surprised by all the Justin Bieber."
[20:34] <Mike_H> "Really? I love her!"
[20:34] <Mike_H> "...He's a guy."
[20:34] <Mike_H> "They keep saying that. But I'm not buying it."
[20:34] <Peter-C> Justin_Bieber - Free exams for all ladies after I become an EMT
[20:34] <Peter-C> :D
�06[20:35] * Crazy|tiiiiiiiii thinks Peter-C has his hopes up
[20:35] <Crazy|tiiiiiiiii> but one never knows
[20:36] <Justin_Bieber> -18:34:49- (Peter-C) Justin_Bieber - Free exams for all ladies after I become an EMT-18:34:49- (Peter-C) Justin_Bieber - Free exams for all ladies after I become an EMT
[20:37] <Justin_Bieber> That's exactly why they will be lining up... to beat the shit out of you for giving "exams:
[20:37] <Mike_H> rofl
[20:37] <Mike_H> who knew Justin Bieber made so much sense
[20:37] <Peter-C> :(
[20:37] <Peter-C> You hurt me where my feelings should me :(
[20:38] <Crazy|tiiiiiiiii> implying that you don't have feelings?
�03[20:38] * Crazy|tiiiiiiiii is now known as Crazynas
[20:38] <Peter-C> mhm
[20:39] <tommorris> Justin_Bieber: I heard on the Interwebs that you are a cleverly disguised 51-year-old pedophile.
[20:39] <Peter-C> I saw that too
[20:39] <Justin_Bieber> I saw that too
[20:40] <Peter-C> It was published by America's most trusted news source
[20:40] <tommorris> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc3jMoFJrBQ
[20:40] <Justin_Bieber> Fucks News?
[20:41] <Peter-C> The Onion is America's #1 news source
[20:41] <Crazynas> rofl
[20:41] <kylu> ...well, they're more believable than MSNBC.
[20:42] <SigmaWP> !oversight PM me
�06[20:42] * SigmaWP gets an axe and chases Fluffernutter
�06[20:43] * Crazynas blinks at kylu
[20:43] <kylu> miu?
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[20:43] <SigmaWP> Ooh, bunnies.
�06[20:43] * Peter-C shoots SigmaWP
[20:43] <Peter-C> No chasing Fluffernutter
�06[20:43] * SigmaWP deftly parries the shot with his axe
�06[20:44] * Fluffernutter grabs Dagny
�03[20:44] * SigmaWP is now known as ClueBot_NG
�06[20:44] * Dagny is grabbed
�03[20:44] * ClueBot_NG is now known as SigmaWP
�06[20:44] * Dagny just had the best night ever ever ever.
[20:44] <SigmaWP> Fluffernutter: OS
[20:44] <Peter-C> SEXUAL HARRASSMENT IN THE WORK PLACE
[20:44] <SigmaWP> PM?
�06[20:44] * Peter-C gives Fluffernutter a warning letter
[20:44] <Peter-C> No grabbing other users
[20:44] <SigmaWP> I swear, if you've taken to ignoring me...
[20:45] <Fluffernutter> SigmaWP, what?
[20:46] <Keegan> Fluffernutter: He wants an OS
[20:46] <Keegan> Now go go go!
�06[20:46] * SigmaWP claps
[20:46] <Keegan> And let me know if you have any questions, I understand you were sent my manual
�06[20:47] * Fluffernutter went
[20:47] <SigmaWP> What happens to things that get OS anyway?
[20:47] <Fluffernutter> they go poof
[20:47] <SigmaWP> Forever?
[20:47] <Crazynas> and ever and ever and ever
[20:47] <Crazynas> :P
[20:47] <Logan_> well, I think OSers can see things that were OSed
�06[20:48] * SigmaWP takes a screenshot of the page and OCR's it in the event that the user wants userfication
[20:48] <SigmaWP> Now if only I could find where I moved paint.
[20:50] <Addihockey10> SigmaWP: It's surpression now, OS is the old tool.
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[20:50] <SigmaWP> Suppression ≈ oversight?
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[20:57] <geniice> no
[20:58] <geniice> Suppression is admin level deletion. oversight is more serious
�06[20:59] * Crazynas wonders why it's not called oversight anymore, but still used by oversighters
[21:00] <Fluffernutter> inertia
[21:00] <Fluffernutter> oversighters can also oversight, proper, but iirc we get yelled at if we do, because it totally borks things
[21:01] <SigmaWP> Damn it, I hate people who stick db tags on pages without patrolling them
[21:01] <Demiurge1000> Fluffernutter: You get yelled at anyway :D
[21:01] <Fluffernutter> only part of the time
[21:01] <Betacommand> do we allow soft redirects to wikia?
[21:01] <Fluffernutter> i'm 1 yelled-at out of 3 suppressions so far
[21:02] <Crazynas> 3 total?
[21:03] <Fluffernutter> yeah
�06[21:04] * Crazynas hopes it wasn't his request
[21:04] <Fluffernutter> nope, not yours
[21:05] <SigmaWP> It can't be mine, mine happened just a minute ago
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[21:05] <Fluffernutter> let's not play guess-the-yelling, mmkay?
[21:06] <Fluffernutter> fun diversion: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/301441_10150314632567204_698787203_8588108_500394429_n.jpg
�06[21:06] * SigmaWP thinks there are no real words in there
[21:06] <Fluffernutter> there are
[21:07] <Trusilver> Oh com'on Fluffernutter, you know half the people watching the channel IMMEDIATELY went to your talk page to see who was being the malcontent :)
�06[21:07] * Crazynas thinks that's mean
[21:07] <Crazynas> :P
[21:07] <Fluffernutter> Trusilver, ah, but you assume it happened on my talk page
�06[21:07] * Dagny finds the word "fat" first
[21:07] <Dagny> Well fuck that thing
[21:07] <Fluffernutter> Dagny, i got "bad love lop." So I figure that means I'm fated to lop off part of the next male who fails to love me appropriately
�06[21:07] * Crazynas refering to teh diversion
[21:08] <Dagny> I weigh like 120 pounds.
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[21:08] <SigmaWP> I got "funny broken whore" :S
�06[21:08] * Fluffernutter pets Dagny
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[21:11] <Fluffernutter> SigmaWP, clearly you are destined to be a hooker-comedian with a heart of gold
[21:11] <Logan_> Fluffernutter: Desiree Vandine
[21:11] <Logan_> ?
[21:11] <Crazynas> o.O
[21:11] <Fluffernutter> wha?
�06[21:12] * Tanvir jumps on Fluffernutter's lap.
[21:12] <Fluffernutter> oh dear
�06[21:12] * Dagny snuggles Fluffernutter
�06[21:12] * SigmaWP uh ohs
[21:13] <Fluffernutter> Dagny's allowed to. She's going to be one of my harem, when i get around to that
�06[21:14] * Dagny winks at Fluffernutter
[21:16] <Fluffernutter> heh
�06[21:17] * Crazynas just reverted the 'fucking' back into an article
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[21:17] <Fluffernutter> was it fucking necessary?
[21:17] <Crazynas> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LMFAO_%28group%29&action=historysubmit&diff=455776191&oldid=455774613
[21:18] <Fluffernutter> This is why commons can't have nice things (caution, some images NSFW): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Barefoot_female,_sole_exposed
[21:18] <Crazynas> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LMFAO_%28group%29&action=historysubmit&diff=455776089&oldid=455774613
[21:18] <Crazynas> heh
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[21:20] <SigmaWP> Occupy Wall Street has reached Rome
�06[21:20] * SigmaWP applauds the socialists
[21:22] <Logan_> Fluffernutter: haha
�06[21:23] * Crazynas wishes you could watchlist users
[21:24] <Crazynas> but that would be kinda creepy
[21:24] <geniice> men's rights? please. Rights are a feminist construct. Men just kill people till they get what they want
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[21:25] <SigmaWP> O.o
�06[21:25] * Crazynas wonders what the hell is going on
[21:26] <Fluffernutter> ?
[21:26] <Fluffernutter> with what?
[21:27] <geniice> well you've just got a request for mediation
[21:27] <Fluffernutter> yeah i saw
[21:27] <Fluffernutter> crazy dude be crazy, yo
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[21:28] <Fluffernutter> i'm not even sure in what spot i'm supposed to reply "errrr, i reverted copyvios. no content dispute, mediation needed."
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[21:29] <geniice> the copyright cabal does not deal in mediation. Cease your activities or be terminated
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[21:32] <Demiurge1000> Trying to occupy Wall Street in Rome, is a mistake.
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[21:35] <Demiurge1000> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Anchor doesn't explain under what circumstances it should be used, only its effects. If someone is using it to insert anchors into mainspace articles, for the purpose of then using those anchors in an RfC/U, is that bad? Or just sub-optimal? I'm confused (and a party to the RfC/U).
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[21:45] <SigmaWP> crazy|nap: Crazyna(s|p)
[21:46] <crazy|nap> hmmm?
[21:47] <SigmaWP> Crazynap is superior to crazy|nap
�06[21:47] * Peter-C gives SigmaWP pie
[21:48] <SigmaWP> π
�03[21:48] * crazy|nap is now known as Crazysauna
[21:48] <Crazysauna> :P
[21:48] <SigmaWP> heh
�06[21:49] * Crazysauna is waiting for it to heat up
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�06[21:57] * LL2|JedIRC says hi to SigmaWP
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�06[21:58] * SigmaWP says hi to LL2|JedIRC
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�06[21:59] * LL2|JedIRC turns into Rick__Astley and rickrolls SigmaWP at max volume
�06[21:59] * Cncplayer flips off peer
[22:00] <Cncplayer> :P
[22:00] <LL2|JedIRC> Cncplayer: get a better connection/isp
[22:01] <Cncplayer> sometimes i dont disconnect for hours
[22:01] <LL2|JedIRC> Key word: sometimes
[22:01] <Cncplayer> my internet connection has a mind of its own
[22:01] <LL2|JedIRC> I assume you mean "never" when you say "sometimes"?
[22:02] <LL2|JedIRC> :P
[22:02] <Cncplayer> well i'm on a wireless connection
[22:02] <Cncplayer> at home
[22:03] <Cncplayer> so my connection gets disrupted easily
[22:03] <LL2|JedIRC> My laptop at home is too
[22:03] <LL2|JedIRC> It goes through two full walls before it gets to the wireless router
[22:03] <Cncplayer> mine is all the way down stairs behind 2 walls
[22:03] <LL2|JedIRC> And I still get a very high speed (i.e. 1.6 MB/s)
[22:04] <Cncplayer> 5.5 :P
[22:04] <Cncplayer> but its usually better
[22:04] <LL2|JedIRC> The only time the "connection reset by peer" thing happens to me is when I get disconnected from the router entirely
[22:05] <LL2|JedIRC> And occasionally it just happens, but not much
[22:05] <Cncplayer> my connection used to be much crappier until my ip became static
[22:05] <Cncplayer> now i rarely disconnect
[22:06] <LL2|JedIRC> I beg to differ
[22:06] <LL2|JedIRC> And it seems peer and your connection do too
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[22:06] <Cncplayer> well i disconnect this morning
[22:06] <Cncplayer> about 12 hpurs ago
[22:06] <Cncplayer> *hours
[22:07] <Cncplayer> my connection usually resets either seconds after i connect or hours after
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�06[22:15] * Crazynas blinks at Fluffernutter
[22:15] <Fluffernutter> hrm?
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[22:22] <geniice> anway meetup in 9.5 hours time so night all
[22:23] <Fluffernutter> have fun tomorrow, dearie
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�06[22:24] * Tanvir blames Fluffernutter.
�06[22:24] * Fluffernutter is to blame, yes. That much has become clear.
�06[22:25] * Crazynas wonders if Fluffernutter has unneeded guilt
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[22:33] <Cloveapple> Hiya SigmaWP
[22:35] <Cloveapple> How's the land of coal balls?
[22:43] <Tanvir> That land should be burned.
Session Close: Sat Oct 15 22:45:33 2011