User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2011-05-03

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May 03 00:05:04 *	Guerillero waits to be badgered
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May 03 00:05:28 <Guerillero>	hehe
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May 03 00:07:57 <Fluffernutter>	Guerillero likes to watch
May 03 00:08:03 <Guerillero>	:o
May 03 00:08:23 <Fluffernutter>	heh
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May 03 00:09:03 <Guerillero>	you went there
May 03 00:09:19 <Fluffernutter>	<_<
May 03 00:09:21 <Fluffernutter>	>_>
May 03 00:09:22 <Fluffernutter>	didn't
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May 03 00:17:19 <gde33>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTOQUnvI3CA
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May 03 00:49:18 *	Douche plugged his old HD.
May 03 00:49:45 <killiondude>	#euphemism
May 03 00:50:01 <Fluffernutter>	hee
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May 03 00:50:21 *	Douche huggles Fluffernutter 
May 03 00:51:01 *	Douche huggles derp 
May 03 00:51:02 *	derp huggles Douche
May 03 00:51:04 <Douche>	:D
May 03 00:52:42 *	Fluffernutter snuggles both derp incarnations
May 03 00:52:43 *	derp snuggles both Fluffernutter incarnations
May 03 00:52:47 <KFP>	Socks.
May 03 00:53:16 <Douche>	:p
May 03 00:53:19 <Douche>	quick
May 03 00:53:24 <Douche>	get a checkuser!
May 03 00:54:55 <Demiurge1000>	Incidentally.. What's the quick link to allow someone to confirm that I am not an en.wiki administrator, if I am accused of being one? (For username Demiurge1000) I'm sure I can look this up, but I'm too lazy. Also I resent being accused of it :)
May 03 00:55:37 <matthewrbowker>	Demiurge1000: ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&limit=1&username=Demiurge1000
May 03 00:56:07 <Douche>	that list pwns :)
May 03 00:56:08 <Demiurge1000>	matthewrbowker: Thanks!
May 03 00:56:34 <matthewrbowker>	np :)
May 03 00:56:35 *	Demiurge1000 slinks off to recover from the huge offence caused by such an accusation
May 03 00:56:46 <Demiurge1000>	he called me "half malevolent", too, which is nearly as bad :D
May 03 00:57:00 <Demiurge1000>	(but more poetic)
May 03 00:57:35 <Guerillero>	link?
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May 03 00:58:15 *	Douche gives Fluffernutter some Harfang Des neiges
May 03 00:58:17 <Demiurge1000>	hmm, but what if I give you the link and then you decide that you agree with him that I *am* an administrator and half malevolent? :P
May 03 00:58:35 <Douche>	some wine
May 03 00:58:46 <matthewrbowker>	Demiurge1000: Well, I think that link proves conclusively that you are *not* an administrator.
May 03 00:59:09 <Demiurge1000>	Yeah, but malevolency is more subjective
May 03 00:59:15 <Douche>	some über cheap wine.
May 03 01:00:04 *	Guerillero looks through recent contrbutions
May 03 01:00:51 <Demiurge1000>	Guerillero seeks malevolency, and Guerillero will find it!
May 03 01:01:26 <Demiurge1000>	Yeah actually it's faster you snooping my contributions than me looking for whatever exact diff that was in
May 03 01:01:52 <Avruch>	Join #defense for IRC distribution of food from Arm America!
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May 03 01:01:54 <Guerillero>	:D
May 03 01:02:10 <Demiurge1000>	umm you can give me food over IRC? wow
May 03 01:02:20 <Guerillero>	I've been writing up this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Straight_edge/dumping-ground
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May 03 01:07:56 <Douche>	Awwwww
May 03 01:08:11 <Douche>	my aunt has been evacuated.
May 03 01:08:19 <Logan_>	*evicted?
May 03 01:08:25 <Douche>	Evacuated.
May 03 01:08:28 <Douche>	Rising waters.
May 03 01:08:33 <Logan_>	ah
May 03 01:08:38 <matthewrbowker>	O.O  I hope she's OK.
May 03 01:08:53 <Douche>	she lives lakeshore next to Lake Champlain (large lake shared between USA and Canada)
May 03 01:08:57 <Douche>	She is.
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May 03 01:09:28 <Douche>	I mean the lake level may get worse
May 03 01:09:36 <Douche>	40 mm of rain have been announced.
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May 03 01:14:09 <Douche>	man
May 03 01:14:14 <Douche>	the song on /b/ is annoying
May 03 01:14:15 <Douche>	:P
May 03 01:14:36 <Douche>	It's america fuck yeah
May 03 01:15:15 *	matthewrbowker can't get to 4chan.
May 03 01:16:29 <Douche>	why?
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May 03 01:17:00 <matthewrbowker>	Connection reset while page was loading...
May 03 01:17:09 <Guerillero>	same
May 03 01:17:31 <Guerillero>	Connection closed by remote server
May 03 01:17:31 <Guerillero>	Check that the address is spelled correctly, or try searching for the site.
May 03 01:17:42 <Guerillero>	when geting on 4chan.org
May 03 01:18:11 <Peter-C>	Why are you guys fucking going on 4chan?
May 03 01:18:15 <Logan_>	^
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May 03 01:18:34 <Peter-C>	If you need some shits and giggles use Uncycl.... oh yea...
May 03 01:18:51 <Guerillero>	to see if they are really playing American fuck ya
May 03 01:19:00 <Guerillero>	and remembering ED
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May 03 01:19:16 <Peter-C>	ED?
May 03 01:19:22 <Peter-C>	Emergency Department?
May 03 01:19:23 <Demiurge1000>	It was a horse.
May 03 01:19:24 <Logan_>	Peter-C: Encyclopedia Dramatica
May 03 01:19:51 <Peter-C>	Oh, I confuizzled my nonimportant wikis
May 03 01:19:53 <Peter-C>	Woops
May 03 01:19:54 <Peter-C>	Sorry
May 03 01:19:54 <Demiurge1000>	Logan_: They have a new site up called Oh Internet, now.
May 03 01:20:02 <Logan_>	Demiurge1000: I know.
May 03 01:20:17 <Demiurge1000>	Logan_: Some guy called meepsheep was in here advertising it. Or attacking it. Or something :)
May 03 01:20:24 <Guerillero>	it lacks the lulz
May 03 01:20:30 <Demiurge1000>	It lulz the lackz.
May 03 01:21:31 <Douche>	Know any software to NUKE a hard drive?
May 03 01:21:53 <Guerillero>	I was introduced to anon by a chick at my school
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May 03 01:22:24 <matthewrbowker>	Douche: Just re-install the OS using the original CD.
May 03 01:22:49 <Demiurge1000>	Guerillero: Do you know who she is?
May 03 01:23:03 <Demiurge1000>	Douche: Then install XP and try Eraser
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May 03 01:23:50 <Guerillero>	yes
May 03 01:24:06 <Peter-C>	HILLARY CLINTON IS PRESIDENT!
May 03 01:24:09 *	Peter-C jumps out a window
May 03 01:24:24 <Guerillero>	she sat beside me in physics
May 03 01:24:33 *	Fluffernutter slaps Peter-C
May 03 01:24:36 <Peter-C>	And I'm George Cloony
May 03 01:24:43 <Peter-C>	Oh no, one of my flings
May 03 01:24:49 *	Peter-C ushers Fluffernutter away from the press
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May 03 01:26:08 *	Peter-C mounts the Kingturtle
May 03 01:26:13 <Peter-C>	ONWARD!
May 03 01:26:25 <Fluffernutter>	stop it
May 03 01:26:26 *	derp slaps Peter-C around a bit with a large trout
May 03 01:26:39 <Dragonfly6-7>	derp - is that one of the trout that break human jawbones?
May 03 01:26:43 <Kingturtle>	is there a channel on freenode for openoffice?
May 03 01:26:47 <derp>	Yes. A cement trout.
May 03 01:26:48 <Peter-C>	#openoffice
May 03 01:27:23 <derp>	Kingturtle
May 03 01:27:26 <Peter-C>	#openoffice-en ?
May 03 01:27:27 <derp>	ignore Peter-C's suggestion.
May 03 01:27:28 <Peter-C>	OH
May 03 01:27:33 <derp>	It's #Openoffice.ORG
May 03 01:27:35 <derp>	troll.
May 03 01:27:40 <Peter-C>	#libreoffice
May 03 01:28:08 <derp>	#Openoffice.org is the official one.
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May 03 01:28:27 <Kingturtle>	ty!
May 03 01:28:34 <derp>	np
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May 03 01:36:32 *	Douche is compressing his IRC logs of his old computer.
May 03 01:37:58 <Fluffernutter>	kinky
May 03 01:38:05 <Fluffernutter>	"compressing" "logs"
May 03 01:38:22 <Douche>	and it's done
May 03 01:38:34 <Douche>	transferring almost 800 MB of logs to a USB key takes hours.
May 03 01:38:52 <Krimpet>	Douche, what, are you using USB 1.0?
May 03 01:39:49 <Douche>	Krimpet: no.
May 03 01:39:57 <Douche>	USB 2.0 on my mac
May 03 01:39:59 <Douche>	and hey Krimpet :)
May 03 01:40:09 *	MRB[desktop] is now known as matthewrbowker
May 03 01:40:25 <Krimpet>	USB 2.0 can transfer 25-30 MB/s on average.
May 03 01:40:35 <Douche>	yep
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May 03 01:54:56 <Peter-C>	WE GOT HIM!
May 03 01:55:03 *	Peter-C tosses booze all over derp
May 03 01:55:04 *	derp tosses booze all over Peter-C
May 03 01:55:08 *	Peter-C licks Fluffernutter
May 03 01:55:16 <Fluffernutter>	ew
May 03 01:55:22 <Fluffernutter>	gerroff me
May 03 01:55:25 *	Peter-C glomps Dragonfly6-7
May 03 01:55:27 <Peter-C>	WE GOT HIM :D
May 03 01:55:31 <Logan_>	Ark Music Productions has produced another talent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpWfAiz1RC0
May 03 01:55:33 *	Mitchazenia kicks Peter-C in the teeth
May 03 01:55:42 <Peter-C>	WE GOT HIM!
May 03 01:55:45 *	Peter-C glomps Mitchazenia
May 03 01:55:59 <Peter-C>	Logan_ - since when has Justin Bieber has blonde hair?
May 03 01:56:12 <Logan_>	hah
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May 03 01:58:09 *	Peter-C hugs MuZemike
May 03 01:58:11 <Peter-C>	WE DID IT!
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May 03 01:58:16 <Peter-C>	We got him!
May 03 01:58:18 <Peter-C>	:D
May 03 01:58:25 <Fluffernutter>	the hell
May 03 01:58:31 <Peter-C>	We got him!
May 03 01:58:34 <Fluffernutter>	you're like 24 hours behind
May 03 01:58:41 <Peter-C>	No
May 03 01:58:41 <MuZemike>	Where the hell have you been?
May 03 01:58:42 <matthewrbowker>	Peter-C: You are waaaay to excited...
May 03 01:58:46 <Peter-C>	haha
May 03 01:58:58 <Peter-C>	That is what people were chearing through the halls of my school ALL day
May 03 01:59:04 <mindspillage>	Do we get our civil liberties back now? If not, no celebrating from me.
May 03 01:59:15 <Fluffernutter>	^
May 03 01:59:21 <Peter-C>	No, BUT WE GET BOOZE!
May 03 01:59:21 *	MickWithoutGlass (45e1795f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.225.121.95) has joined #wikipedia-en
May 03 01:59:27 <Douche>	Who wants cheese?
May 03 01:59:30 <Fluffernutter>	...booze?
May 03 01:59:33 <Douche>	Peter-C: no candy for you.
May 03 01:59:35 *	Peter-C gives MickWithoutGlass and fills it with celebretory booze
May 03 01:59:41 <Peter-C>	*a glass
May 03 02:00:09 <MickWithoutGlass>	You'd be surprised about how I named my account
May 03 02:00:14 <MuZemike>	Price of oil is down by a little bit: http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110502-709298.html
May 03 02:00:24 <Fluffernutter>	are you a mick who doesn't have a glass?
May 03 02:00:34 <MuZemike>	Of course, there's this whole other thing going on in the Middle East.
May 03 02:01:08 <Peter-C>	MickWithoutGlass - What happened? Did I steal your glass?
May 03 02:01:38 <MickWithoutGlass>	My ACTUAL username on Wikipedia is MickWithoutGlasses. It's just too long to use on Webchat
May 03 02:02:08 <MickWithoutGlass>	Anyway,
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May 03 02:02:20 <MickWithoutGlass>	There's a kid at my school named Mick
May 03 02:02:24 <MickWithoutGlass>	He wears glasses
May 03 02:02:28 <MuZemike>	Black Kid's Computer Desk: http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/b0c79255-8fb0-4b4e-a2e2-7e00244edd5c.jpg
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May 03 02:03:19 <matthewrbowker>	Hmmm... Did I do this right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Script_Frenzy_Logo.png
May 03 02:03:56 <Fluffernutter>	script frenzy?
May 03 02:03:58 <Fluffernutter>	do you nano, too?\
May 03 02:03:58 <Peter-C>	matthewrbowker - Looks good the way it is
May 03 02:04:06 <Peter-C>	(the writing)
May 03 02:04:17 <matthewrbowker>	Fluffernutter: Yes, I do.  :)
May 03 02:04:18 <Peter-C>	BUT, it NEEDS to have alower resolution
May 03 02:04:20 <Fluffernutter>	me too!
May 03 02:04:27 *	Fluffernutter gives matthewrbowker a cookie
May 03 02:04:28 <Peter-C>	nano wrimo?
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May 03 02:04:31 <Peter-C>	Ohyea....
May 03 02:04:37 <Peter-C>	I forgot about that....
May 03 02:04:38 <matthewrbowker>	Fluffernutter: High Five!
May 03 02:04:39 <Douche>	Oh oh ojh
May 03 02:07:21 <Peter-C>	THANKS FOR REMINDING ME Fluffernutter >:(
May 03 02:07:21 <Douche>	election offices are now closed.
May 03 02:07:21 <matthewrbowker>	Peter-C: Thanks :)
May 03 02:07:21 <Fluffernutter>	of what?
May 03 02:07:21 <Douche>	Canada.
May 03 02:07:21 <Peter-C>	NANO WRIMO
May 03 02:07:21 <Peter-C>	You forgot to remind me D:
May 03 02:07:21 <Fluffernutter>	er, it's 6 months away
May 03 02:07:22 <MuZemike>	Come to Chicago someday. They let you vote, even if you're dead.
May 03 02:07:22 <Krimpet>	I was in Canada this weekend. It was funny seeing yard signs all over for candidates and parties I'd never heard of.
May 03 02:07:22 <Peter-C>	You forgot to remind me 6 months ago :P
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May 03 02:07:22 <Fluffernutter>	i do my best to fail you in all ways possible
May 03 02:07:22 *	FAdmArcher|away is now known as FAdmArcher
May 03 02:07:37 *	Peter-C boycotts Fluffernutter
May 03 02:08:03 <Fluffernutter>	most of the boys do, yes
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May 03 02:09:30 <geniice>	wait what would that even mean
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May 03 02:11:33 <Fluffernutter>	i was aiming for something along the lines of "i can't get a date to save my life"
May 03 02:11:37 <Fluffernutter>	but i'm open to other interpretatoins
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May 03 02:20:15 <Dragonfly6-7>	it's election night
May 03 02:20:18 <Dragonfly6-7>	and I have to change the catbox
May 03 02:20:21 <Dragonfly6-7>	how symbolic
May 03 02:21:02 <Pilif12p>	tomorrow is election night for us...
May 03 02:22:11 <Dragonfly6-7>	where are you
May 03 02:22:23 *	Fluffernutter elects no one
May 03 02:22:43 <Pilif12p>	IA, it's a LOST vost
May 03 02:22:45 <Pilif12p>	vote'
May 03 02:23:03 <Dragonfly6-7>	I don't understand
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May 03 02:30:23 <Sceptre>	oh god
May 03 02:30:31 <Guerillero>	???
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May 03 02:30:37 <matthewrbowker>	???
May 03 02:30:45 <Sceptre>	Obama could be the fucking second coming of Christ and Republicans would hate him
May 03 02:30:50 <Peter-C>	profit!
May 03 02:30:56 <Guerillero>	true
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May 03 02:31:02 <Sceptre>	"If [Obama] was a shoo-in for reelection, Osama bin Laden would still be alive today. There would have been no need to undertake the mission."
May 03 02:31:08 <Sceptre>	our old friend Rush
May 03 02:31:17 <Guerillero>	he is a fuck
May 03 02:31:20 <Peter-C>	HEY
May 03 02:31:20 <Peter-C>	YOU
May 03 02:31:25 <Peter-C>	GET A BLOG OR HTFO
May 03 02:31:28 <Peter-C>	*GTFO
May 03 02:31:30 <Peter-C>	:D
May 03 02:31:39 *	Peter-C frolics with Fluffernutter
May 03 02:31:41 <Fluffernutter>	...
May 03 02:31:43 <Fluffernutter>	the hell
May 03 02:31:44 <Fluffernutter>	get off me
May 03 02:32:04 <Peter-C>	I would frolic with IH but he is prepping in your bedroom :/
May 03 02:32:13 <mindspillage>	Peter-C: first the booze, then the illicit relations... stop trying to conduct illegal activites on IRC. :-P
May 03 02:32:29 <Fluffernutter>	IH is gone
May 03 02:32:35 <Fluffernutter>	his flight takes off in an hour
May 03 02:32:40 <KFP>	mindspillage: Booze is illegal? :?
May 03 02:32:48 <Fluffernutter>	it is for 15 year olds, KFP
May 03 02:32:51 <mindspillage>	KFP: if you're not of age...
May 03 02:33:00 <KFP>	Oh I see.
May 03 02:33:04 <Sceptre>	also http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/901/we-will-kill-bin-laden/
May 03 02:34:08 <Guerillero>	:)
May 03 02:34:24 <Sceptre>	so, Matt and Trey have, what, 72 hours?
May 03 02:34:27 <Peter-C>	What happens if I delete C:?
May 03 02:34:30 <Sceptre>	they've done it before
May 03 02:34:43 <Fluffernutter>	Peter-C: do it, i dare you
May 03 02:35:14 <Peter-C>	Nu
May 03 02:35:20 *	Guerillero snickers
May 03 02:35:27 <Sceptre>	Peter-C: format c:, then echo j
May 03 02:36:13 <Peter-C>	I will fsk you >:(
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May 03 02:36:45 <Fluffernutter>	zomg
May 03 02:36:48 *	Fluffernutter throws herself upon la_pianista
May 03 02:37:05 <Peter-C>	MINE
May 03 02:37:07 *	Peter-C punts Fluffernutter
May 03 02:37:14 *	Peter-C glomps the la_pianista
May 03 02:37:19 <Fluffernutter>	bitchplz
May 03 02:37:21 <Peter-C>	ALL MINE
May 03 02:37:22 <Fluffernutter>	don't make me hurt you
May 03 02:37:22 <Fluffernutter>	she's mine
May 03 02:37:28 *	Peter-C kidnaps la_pianista
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May 03 02:37:30 <Peter-C>	WE GOT HIM!
May 03 02:37:31 <Peter-C>	WOOOOOO
May 03 02:37:33 <Peter-C>	WE GOT HIM!
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May 03 02:37:43 *	Irish_Eddy sneaks in and takes her away...
May 03 02:38:06 <derp>	Who wants a irish coffee?
May 03 02:38:14 <Fluffernutter>	i want la_pianista
May 03 02:38:27 *	derp snuggles with la_pianista.
May 03 02:38:37 *	Guerillero wishes he could -v peter for then next few minutes
May 03 02:38:41 <Fluffernutter>	srs
May 03 02:38:46 *	Fluffernutter is in A Mood
May 03 02:38:49 *	derp seconds Guerillero.
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May 03 02:39:09 <Guerillero>	sorry derp i'm straight edge
May 03 02:39:22 <Fluffernutter>	...
May 03 02:39:25 <derp>	[21:38] * Guerillero wishes he could -v peter for then next few minutes
May 03 02:39:28 <derp>	i agree :P
May 03 02:39:35 <matthewrbowker>	Guerillero, Peter-C: Just remember: Silence is golden, Gaffers tape is black.
May 03 02:40:15 *	Fluffernutter needs another drinkl
May 03 02:40:16 <Fluffernutter>	-l
May 03 02:40:22 <Guerillero>	my straight edge comment was @ derp's offer for irish coffee
May 03 02:40:56 <Fluffernutter>	ah, that makes more sense
May 03 02:41:04 <Fluffernutter>	i was trying to figure out how Peter-C fit into your abstention
May 03 02:41:06 <Irish_Eddy>	you prefer a cup of coffee and the a glass of whiskey
May 03 02:42:21 *	la_pianista snuggles Fluffernutter, bitchslaps Peter-C, and huggles derp
May 03 02:42:36 <Fluffernutter>	yay
May 03 02:42:46 <Fluffernutter>	la_pianista i feel like i haven;t talked to you in forever
May 03 02:42:53 <Fluffernutter>	i need a gigantic musical-genius hug
May 03 02:43:30 <la_pianista>	zomg
May 03 02:43:41 *	la_pianista gigantic musical genius hugs Fluffernutter...per custom, yes?
May 03 02:43:58 <Fluffernutter>	:D
May 03 02:43:59 *	Irish_Eddy brings in [[Björn Ulvaeus]]
May 03 02:44:05 <Fluffernutter>	luff
May 03 02:44:17 <Irish_Eddy>	oops, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rn_Ulvaeus
May 03 02:45:17 <Guerillero>	is this enough sources for an article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guerillero/Straight_edge_tattoos ?
May 03 02:45:23 <Irish_Eddy>	sorry, guys, that I disrupteded your games
May 03 02:45:42 <Fluffernutter>	meh, single author is a bit iffy, Guerillero
May 03 02:45:43 <Irish_Eddy>	Was pissed off at the Dutch IRC
May 03 02:46:02 <Fluffernutter>	and you're lacking any assertion of importance
May 03 02:46:03 <Guerillero>	thats what I thought
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May 03 02:46:11 <matthewrbowker>	Irish_Eddy: Don't worry about it, you're welcome here anytime.
May 03 02:46:39 <Guerillero>	I never got the assertion of importance thing
May 03 02:46:45 <Irish_Eddy>	If you guys don't mind my English...
May 03 02:46:48 <Guerillero>	only a ton of sources
May 03 02:46:54 <Guerillero>	its fine
May 03 02:47:22 <Demiurge1000>	Irish_Eddy: There's a Dutch IRC? en.IRC is better!
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May 03 02:47:40 <matthewrbowker>	Irish_Eddy: Honestly, I never noticed anything out of the ordinary.  You don't speak English bad at all :)
May 03 02:48:02 <Fluffernutter>	Guerillero, well, it's a box you need to tick to pass the CSD gauntlet
May 03 02:48:15 <Irish_Eddy>	Speaking is one thing, writing something else. And you don't here my accent :-)
May 03 02:48:50 <Guerillero>	This passed DYK without it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bent_edge
May 03 02:48:53 <Fluffernutter>	Irish_Eddy, your english sounds (reads) fine to me too, and I'm picky about that stuff!
May 03 02:49:06 <Irish_Eddy>	I have learned only the Queen's English at secondary school. Quite useless in Ireland.
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May 03 02:49:49 <Irish_Eddy>	Got a heap of corrections on this: http://eddysstories.blogspot.com/
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May 03 02:50:31 <Irish_Eddy>	Oops, spamming. :-)
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May 03 02:53:20 <geniice>	whoo hoo
May 03 02:53:22 <geniice>	http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden
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May 03 02:53:50 <geniice>	http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/Osama_bin_Laden 4.8 million
May 03 02:54:31 <derp>	I'm out
May 03 02:54:41 <derp>	<3
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May 03 02:54:53 <Dragonfly6-7>	geniice - look at the hits in the past few *weeks*
May 03 02:54:56 <Dragonfly6-7>	people were looking for it earlier
May 03 02:55:54 <Peter-C>	https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/224626_1994466978830_1158097387_2392346_1629998_n.jpg xD
May 03 02:56:34 <quanticle>	Dragonfly6-7: The link looks at the stats from 2011-05-01
May 03 02:56:58 <Dragonfly6-7>	quanticle - yes, I know.
May 03 02:57:06 <Dragonfly6-7>	quanticle - look carefully at the preceding weeks
May 03 02:57:19 <Dragonfly6-7>	people were looking for the article several days before it existed
May 03 02:57:40 <geniice>	single hits? could be bots or something
May 03 02:58:02 <geniice>	see for example http://stats.grok.se/en/201102/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden
May 03 02:59:33 <Peter-C>	la_pianista - We got him :D
May 03 02:59:38 <la_pianista>	yep.
May 03 02:59:40 <Peter-C>	:D
May 03 02:59:52 <Peter-C>	What are the gun nuts in Texas doing?
May 03 03:00:05 <Peter-C>	Are they celebrating
May 03 03:00:15 <geniice>	hmmm islamicawakening forum is still down
May 03 03:00:33 <Peter-C>	geniice - what is it about?
May 03 03:00:49 <Peter-C>	Pro or anti radicals?
May 03 03:00:53 <OlEnglish>	oi
May 03 03:00:56 <geniice>	somewhat radical
May 03 03:01:10 <quanticle>	Peter-C: I prefer this one: http://yfrog.com/h0mix6j
May 03 03:01:30 <Peter-C>	haha
May 03 03:01:32 <OlEnglish>	NDP in the opposition! good news
May 03 03:01:35 <geniice>	I suspect whoever runs the forum decided that the pro bin laden thread was making them look bad
May 03 03:02:28 <geniice>	oh Canadian elections
May 03 03:03:37 <Peter-C>	They have elections in CanadA?
May 03 03:03:54 <Dragonfly6-7>	Peter-C - don't be a dipshit.
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May 03 03:03:57 <Brian_S>	Well, obviously.
May 03 03:04:00 <Fluffernutter>	yeah, they all participate in a moose race and whoever's toque is the last to fly off wins
May 03 03:04:12 <quanticle>	OlEnglish: So, does this mean that Harper is still leading a minority government?
May 03 03:04:15 <Peter-C>	Fluffernutter made the most sense
May 03 03:04:32 <OlEnglish>	don't know yet, they might form a majority
May 03 03:04:37 <quanticle>	:(
May 03 03:04:47 <quanticle>	American, but not a fan of Harper, regardless
May 03 03:04:49 <Peter-C>	Dragonfly6-7 - I say that for a reason, why has no one talked about it (in the US) in the past week?
May 03 03:04:56 <OlEnglish>	ya me neither
May 03 03:05:36 <quanticle>	Peter-C: Its not a regular vote. Stephen Harper called snap elections to try to get into a majority government after a bunch of his allies bolted in Parliament.
May 03 03:06:03 <Dragonfly6-7>	Peter-C - because American media is stupid and easily led
May 03 03:06:38 <Peter-C>	quanticle - How is a vote called? just byt he PM?
May 03 03:06:47 <Peter-C>	Dragonfly6-7 - I don't know what your talking aboot
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May 03 03:08:08 <OlEnglish>	Dragonfly6-7: sorry i missed your message earlier
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May 03 03:08:48 <quanticle>	Peter-C: I'm no Canadian, but, as I understand it, the Prime Minister can appeal to the Governor General (?) to exercise his ability to dissolve the government and call new elections.
May 03 03:08:52 <Fluffernutter>	Dragonfly6-7, how long until results are in?
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May 03 03:10:35 <quanticle>	Peter-C: "Once sworn in by the viceroy, the prime minister holds office until he resigns or is removed by the governor general, after either a motion of non confidence or his party's defeat in a general election." <-- I think it was motion of no confidence in this case.
May 03 03:10:38 <Peter-C>	I think my "aboot" comment scared him away
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May 03 03:10:55 <Peter-C>	quanticle - seems a bit lopsided :/
May 03 03:11:00 <Fluffernutter>	Peter-C, do i need to smite you?
May 03 03:11:04 <Peter-C>	Yes
May 03 03:11:06 <Peter-C>	Yes you do
May 03 03:11:16 *	Fluffernutter smites with prejudice
May 03 03:11:25 <quanticle>	Hawt :P
May 03 03:11:26 <derp>	Headbomb
May 03 03:11:27 <derp>	big news
May 03 03:11:33 <Headbomb|Laptop>	136 / 84 / 29 / 7
May 03 03:11:36 <Headbomb|Laptop>	i know
May 03 03:11:38 <derp>	Josée Verner (big-ass conservative for Québec)
May 03 03:11:40 <quanticle>	derp: Elections in canada?
May 03 03:11:41 <derp>	city
May 03 03:11:42 <Peter-C>	quanticle - it seems bad that a person can stay in as long as they want if no one opposes them
May 03 03:11:43 <derp>	yep
May 03 03:11:48 <derp>	might lose her ass to NDP
May 03 03:11:48 <Headbomb|Laptop>	135 / 87 / 29 / 6
May 03 03:11:49 <derp>	:D
May 03 03:12:04 <Peter-C>	and it seems bad if everyone hates everyone than the president will be switched yearly
May 03 03:12:08 <Dragonfly6-7>	Peter-C - a government can run for a maximum of 5 years
May 03 03:12:09 <Peter-C>	which would be bad for the government
May 03 03:12:14 <Peter-C>	Oh, ok
May 03 03:12:15 <Dragonfly6-7>	then it has to hold an election
May 03 03:12:23 <derp>	Dragonfly6-7, i can't wait to kick Charest out
May 03 03:12:24 <derp>	:D
May 03 03:12:26 <Peter-C>	That makes sense
May 03 03:12:27 <quanticle>	Peter-C: Yeah, well, that is a risk, (c.f. Italy, Greece, India, etc.)
May 03 03:12:39 <Headbomb|Laptop>	138 / 87 / 29 / 6
May 03 03:12:48 <quanticle>	All parliamentary democracies with a history of instability in Governments.
May 03 03:12:52 <quanticle>	Japan too.
May 03 03:12:55 <Peter-C>	Dragonfly6-7 - quanticle did not mention that, is there a minimum term though?
May 03 03:12:58 <Headbomb|Laptop>	i just don't want to see 155 for the fucktards
May 03 03:13:12 <Headbomb|Laptop>	as long as it stays under 155, i'm happy
May 03 03:13:14 <OlEnglish>	i thought it was 4 years?
May 03 03:13:22 <Peter-C>	That's the US :P
May 03 03:13:27 *	Fluffernutter has doritos
May 03 03:13:35 *	Peter-C has porn
May 03 03:13:36 <OlEnglish>	no no, there was some new bill passed in 2009
May 03 03:13:37 <quanticle>	I don't think there's a minimum term for Canada. There certainly isn't for most parliamentary systems.
May 03 03:13:51 <Headbomb|Laptop>	OlEnglish, 4 years is traditionally when things are stable
May 03 03:13:52 <OlEnglish>	but that was provincial i think
May 03 03:14:01 <Headbomb|Laptop>	which they aren't
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May 03 03:14:08 <Headbomb|Laptop>	so we get 7 elections in 4 years
May 03 03:14:15 <Fluffernutter>	Peter-C, ew
May 03 03:14:18 <Headbomb|Laptop>	sorry, 4 elections in 7 years
May 03 03:14:20 <derp>	quanticle, Harper tried to make fixed date elections.
May 03 03:14:31 <quanticle>	derp: Like here in the US?
May 03 03:14:37 <Headbomb|Laptop>	there was a fixed date elections law that passed by harper, but he violated it
May 03 03:14:44 <derp>	bingo
May 03 03:14:44 <derp>	:D
May 03 03:15:13 <quanticle>	Wait, he violated his own law, Headbomb? How does that work?
May 03 03:15:26 <derp>	:o
May 03 03:15:30 <derp>	BIG NEWS!
May 03 03:15:33 <OlEnglish>	i'm happy for jack layton
May 03 03:15:38 <Headbomb|Laptop>	quanticle: welcome to the harper goverment!
May 03 03:15:38 <derp>	this county may lose its Bloc fort!
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May 03 03:15:49 <Headbomb|Laptop>	laws are mere inconveniences at best
May 03 03:15:54 <derp>	Verchères - Les Patriotes has been a bloc stronghold for 18 years.
May 03 03:15:58 <derp>	It may END tonight
May 03 03:16:06 <quanticle>	Headbomb|Laptop: Harper sounds like a milder version of GWB, then.
May 03 03:16:11 <derp>	Conservatives are up to 8%
May 03 03:16:12 <Headbomb|Laptop>	quanticle: yup
May 03 03:16:15 <Headbomb|Laptop>	he really is
May 03 03:16:23 <derp>	NDP is 48.3
May 03 03:16:30 <derp>	Bloc is 35.6
May 03 03:16:33 *	Fluffernutter sighs. I am trying to follow my toronto-ian friend on another server, and you guys here, and I am now officially confused about who is voting for what
May 03 03:16:56 <quanticle>	Except, that, given the structure of the government of Canada, it should be easier to hold him accountable for any transgressions, given that he's part of the legislative branch, rather than the executive.
May 03 03:17:20 <Headbomb|Laptop>	LOL DUCEPPE TRAILING
May 03 03:17:42 <derp>	LOL
May 03 03:17:46 <derp>	RT¸
May 03 03:17:51 <derp>	Right in its own county
May 03 03:17:52 <derp>	:D
May 03 03:18:30 <derp>	Oh lord
May 03 03:18:32 <derp>	the Liberals here
May 03 03:18:35 <derp>	6.3
May 03 03:18:35 <quanticle>	Duceppe? Is that the Bloc Quebecois leader?
May 03 03:18:41 <Headbomb|Laptop>	145, shit
May 03 03:18:43 <derp>	bingo.
May 03 03:18:46 <derp>	Conservative: 8
May 03 03:18:49 <derp>	Oh
May 03 03:18:50 <derp>	vert
May 03 03:18:53 <derp>	1.7
May 03 03:18:56 <derp>	Bloc
May 03 03:18:59 <derp>	35.8
May 03 03:19:00 <Headbomb|Laptop>	duceppe is the bloc yeah
May 03 03:19:05 <derp>	NDP: 48.3
May 03 03:19:07 <Headbomb|Laptop>	http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/
May 03 03:19:16 <Fluffernutter>	so wait
May 03 03:19:29 <Fluffernutter>	derp = quebecois, but Headbomb != quebecois, yes?>
May 03 03:19:45 <quanticle>	CBC, at this point, is projecting a win for the Tories.
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May 03 03:20:03 <quanticle>	Is that a good thing? I thought the Tories was Harper's party?
May 03 03:20:14 <derp>	Fluffernutter, Headbomb is a new brunswickan.
May 03 03:20:18 <derp>	quanticle, tories = harper.
May 03 03:20:31 *	Fluffernutter sighs, shakes head, consumes more alcohol
May 03 03:20:34 <derp>	OMG
May 03 03:20:36 <derp>	ORANGE REVOLUTION!
May 03 03:20:45 <quanticle>	So Tories winning = not good.
May 03 03:20:51 <Headbomb|Laptop>	I'm Newe Brunswick
May 03 03:20:56 <Headbomb|Laptop>	145/93/32/4
May 03 03:21:05 <Headbomb|Laptop>	Tories winning = horrible beyond imagination
May 03 03:21:16 <Guerillero>	quanticle: if your not a torry :P
May 03 03:21:28 <quanticle>	Holy crap. Tories are up by 10%.
May 03 03:21:28 <Peter-C>	Erm
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May 03 03:21:36 <Peter-C>	GO USA!
May 03 03:21:40 <OlEnglish>	i know! it's awesome, i'm so happy for the ndp
May 03 03:21:48 <derp>	OlEnglish
May 03 03:21:52 <derp>	take a look at Québec
May 03 03:21:54 <Peter-C>	I say that everyone votes for the USA to rule Canada :D
May 03 03:21:57 <OlEnglish>	i know i know
May 03 03:22:03 *	Fluffernutter smothers Peter-C
May 03 03:22:15 <Demiurge1000>	Peter-C: They tried that in 1812, it was a total failure
May 03 03:22:15 <Peter-C>	I'm not into this stuff
May 03 03:22:17 <quanticle>	But wait, this is a parliamentary system. So a 10% deficit can be be overcome if NDP and the libs team up, right?
May 03 03:22:18 <Fluffernutter>	gah i am makingg a mess
May 03 03:22:22 <Peter-C>	I'm not Ironholds
May 03 03:22:26 <Fluffernutter>	?
May 03 03:22:36 <Headbomb|Laptop>	quanticle: it depends on seats
May 03 03:22:37 <Dragonfly6-7>	quanticle - ytes, coalitions
May 03 03:22:40 <OlEnglish>	they wont team up
May 03 03:22:41 <derp>	Muclair is relaxed.
May 03 03:22:43 <Guerillero>	Does Bloc Québécois get many seats
May 03 03:22:43 <derp>	He is leading.
May 03 03:22:44 <Headbomb|Laptop>	we have a stupid first past the post system
May 03 03:22:48 <Peter-C>	[22:22:16] * Fluffernutter smothers Peter-C - Sexual harrasment
May 03 03:22:50 <derp>	:p
May 03 03:22:51 <derp>	:o
May 03 03:22:51 <Peter-C>	:|
May 03 03:22:53 <quanticle>	OlEnglish: They won't?
May 03 03:22:54 <derp>	Larry smith
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May 03 03:22:57 <derp>	is leading
May 03 03:22:58 <OlEnglish>	i doubt it
May 03 03:23:02 *	Peter-C hides behind derp and his muscular arms
May 03 03:23:02 <derp>	Lac Saint-Louis
May 03 03:23:06 <derp>	sourthern tip of MTL
May 03 03:23:15 <derp>	only 1¤
May 03 03:23:19 <derp>	1%
May 03 03:23:46 <Guerillero>	Yukon went liberal
May 03 03:23:48 <quanticle>	Headbomb|Laptop: Yeah, well, it can't be worse than our Electoral College. At least your system pretends to do proportional representation.
May 03 03:23:50 <derp>	larry Smith = former president of Montreal Alouettes
May 03 03:24:16 <Guerillero>	after 10 votes
May 03 03:24:26 <Guerillero>	why do they change the colour like that
May 03 03:25:05 <Peter-C>	derp = sex addict
May 03 03:25:17 <Headbomb|Laptop>	Guerillero: last time they got 49 out of 308
May 03 03:25:18 <Headbomb|Laptop>	with roughly 10% of the national vote
May 03 03:25:35 <Headbomb|Laptop>	quanticle: it doesn't no
May 03 03:25:43 <Headbomb|Laptop>	it's first past the post
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May 03 03:26:12 <Fluffernutter>	Headbomb: how long until you guys fight to the death over AV?
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May 03 03:26:13 <Guerillero>	WTF is western artic
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May 03 03:26:23 <derp>	1% in my riding.
May 03 03:26:33 <quanticle>	Guerillero: Its what's left of the Northwest Territory after they split off Nuvanut.
May 03 03:26:35 *	Fluffernutter stares
May 03 03:26:39 <Fluffernutter>	i am too drunk for this
May 03 03:26:46 <Fluffernutter>	i need the idiot explanation
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May 03 03:27:06 <Headbomb|Laptop>	noooooooooooooo 152.....
May 03 03:27:15 <Peter-C>	What Does Marsellus Wallace Look Like
May 03 03:27:15 <derp>	noooooooo
May 03 03:27:16 <Peter-C>	?
May 03 03:27:18 *	Fluffernutter looks helplessly at Headbomb|Laptop
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May 03 03:27:35 <derp>	Headbomb|Laptop, i want the NDP to be official opposition to fear Harper
May 03 03:27:35 <derp>	:P
May 03 03:27:39 <quanticle>	Peter-C: A bitch?
May 03 03:27:41 <quanticle>	??
May 03 03:27:43 <Headbomb|Laptop>	meaning you could get 100% of the seats with 40% of the vote
May 03 03:27:50 <Headbomb|Laptop>	154.....
May 03 03:27:52 <Headbomb|Laptop>	:((((
May 03 03:27:58 <Fluffernutter>	whut
May 03 03:28:00 <Headbomb|Laptop>	derp it will mean shit if Harper gets a majority
May 03 03:28:02 <Fluffernutter>	ow, my brain
May 03 03:28:04 <derp>	Yes
May 03 03:28:06 <derp>	truly
May 03 03:28:23 <Peter-C>	quanticle >:(
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May 03 03:28:31 <Headbomb|Laptop>	152,,, good go down
May 03 03:28:42 <Peter-C>	He don't like to be fucked by anyone except Mrs. Wallace
May 03 03:29:24 <Headbomb|Laptop>	and if Harper doesn't get his majority, most likely we will have an NDP minority
May 03 03:29:32 <derp>	yep
May 03 03:29:34 <quanticle>	Headbomb|Laptop: Oh. So its more similar to our system here in the states than I though. The only difference seems to be that, in Canada, there is no distinction between electoral seats and congressional seats. Makes sense, because you don't have an electoral college.
May 03 03:29:39 <OlEnglish>	hehe
May 03 03:29:41 <quanticle>	*thought
May 03 03:29:50 <derp>	quanticle, add a non-elected senate.
May 03 03:29:51 <Headbomb|Laptop>	not really
May 03 03:29:54 <KFP>	Peter-C: Say "what" one more time!
May 03 03:30:01 <Headbomb|Laptop>	you vote for candidates directly, but it's a first past the post system
May 03 03:30:23 <Headbomb|Laptop>	so however gets the most vote wins, even if they do not have a majority of support
May 03 03:30:51 *	derp is now known as _
May 03 03:30:51 <quanticle>	Headbomb|Laptop: Wait, wha? You vote for PM directly?
May 03 03:30:56 <Headbomb|Laptop>	150
May 03 03:31:01 <Headbomb|Laptop>	you vote for MP directly
May 03 03:31:01 *	_ is now known as Douche
May 03 03:31:11 <Headbomb|Laptop>	PM is picked by the parliament
May 03 03:31:11 <quanticle>	Oh. Okay, just like in Britain.
May 03 03:31:12 <Peter-C>	What?
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May 03 03:31:21 <KFP>	>_>
May 03 03:31:22 <Fluffernutter>	what's ndp?
May 03 03:31:25 <quanticle>	*BANG*
May 03 03:31:26 <Headbomb|Laptop>	but it traditionnaly the leader of the party with the most seats
May 03 03:31:33 *	quanticle shoots Peter-C's knee
May 03 03:31:46 <Peter-C>	WHAAAAAAA
May 03 03:31:52 *	Fluffernutter gives quanticle a cookie
May 03 03:31:52 <Douche>	new democratic party
May 03 03:31:55 <Douche>	center left.
May 03 03:31:58 <Headbomb|Laptop>	Left
May 03 03:31:59 <Peter-C>	(it was the shoulder)
May 03 03:32:00 <Fluffernutter>	Peter-C you weren;'t even alive for that stfy
May 03 03:32:08 <Guerillero>	the NDP is leading in the most districts
May 03 03:32:09 *	Fluffernutter types good
May 03 03:32:11 <quanticle>	Peter-C: What ain't no country I've ever heard of. Do the speak English in What?
May 03 03:32:17 <Headbomb|Laptop>	154 again....
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May 03 03:32:25 <quanticle>	>:(
May 03 03:32:36 <Peter-C>	WHAT!
May 03 03:32:41 <Fluffernutter>	i love you all, in a drunken sort of confused way
May 03 03:32:42 <Douche>	brb, need to reboot
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May 03 03:32:45 <quanticle>	Why is the seat count fluctuating so? Is it still early in the tallying?
May 03 03:32:55 <Headbomb|Laptop>	quanticle: yes
May 03 03:33:03 <quanticle>	Peter-C: ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, Do you speak it?!
May 03 03:33:17 <quanticle>	Oh god.
May 03 03:33:20 <quanticle>	Samuel L. Jackson.
May 03 03:33:34 <quanticle>	Too cool.
May 03 03:34:02 <Fluffernutter>	..
May 03 03:34:07 <Fluffernutter>	ow my brain
May 03 03:34:29 <quanticle>	Fluffernutter: How drunk are you, right now?
May 03 03:34:34 <Fluffernutter>	quite
May 03 03:34:53 <Fluffernutter>	enough that i am sharing things i shouldn't share
May 03 03:34:55 <matthewrbowker>	Fluffernutter: I hope you're not editing right now :P
May 03 03:35:04 <quanticle>	Haha. Drunk enough for Ironholds to take advantage of you? :P
May 03 03:35:05 <OlEnglish>	155
May 03 03:35:14 <quanticle>	>:[
May 03 03:35:53 *	Fluffernutter is not editing, no
May 03 03:36:22 <Fluffernutter>	and ironholds is gone
May 03 03:36:22 <Fluffernutter>	thus, my drunk
May 03 03:36:22 <matthewrbowker>	Good :)
May 03 03:36:22 <matthewrbowker>	(about not editing)
May 03 03:36:23 <Headbomb|Laptop>	155
May 03 03:36:23 <Headbomb|Laptop>	shit
May 03 03:36:23 <Headbomb|Laptop>	shit shit shit shit shit shit
May 03 03:36:44 <Fluffernutter>	?
May 03 03:36:45 <quanticle>	What's the significance of 155?
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May 03 03:36:58 <quanticle>	Is that the number of seats required to form a majority?
May 03 03:37:43 <Headbomb|Laptop>	yes
May 03 03:37:43 <Headbomb|Laptop>	156 now
May 03 03:38:08 <Headbomb|Laptop>	goddamned fuck, this country has just signed its own death warrant
May 03 03:38:51 <MuZemike>	Let us know when you wish to defect to the U.S.
May 03 03:39:05 <OlEnglish>	hehe
May 03 03:39:15 <Fluffernutter>	wait, who won
May 03 03:39:17 <OlEnglish>	we need a black prime minister
May 03 03:39:18 <Irish_Eddy>	*grin*
May 03 03:39:20 <Fluffernutter>	so confused help
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May 03 03:39:45 <OlEnglish>	consrvatives will form a majority government, with ndp the official opposition
May 03 03:39:49 <Irish_Eddy>	Who want to defect to the US where El Quaida will run amok soon?
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May 03 03:39:56 <Peter-C>	Wow, Full Metal Jacket is soooooo outdated
May 03 03:40:08 <OlEnglish>	liberals and bloc are blah, greens are not even on the map
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May 03 03:40:48 <OlEnglish>	and the marijuana party got a single vote
May 03 03:40:48 <Irish_Eddy>	Do I hear a wish for Communists and Socialists? :-)
May 03 03:41:06 <Logan_>	OlEnglish: Do you think that http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Childhood,_education_and_personal_life_of_Osama_bin_Laden&action=history should be semi-protected?
May 03 03:41:40 <quanticle>	Tories win? >:[
May 03 03:41:41 *	Fluffernutter worries
May 03 03:41:48 <OlEnglish>	oh.. sorry logan, i'm not paying attention to the wiki at the moment.. kinda involved in the election
May 03 03:41:59 <Logan_>	Ah, okay.
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May 03 03:42:08 <quanticle>	Fluffernutter: You shouldn't. Its not like Canada will be invading the US at any point in the near future.
May 03 03:42:22 <quanticle>	South Park movie aside...
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May 03 03:42:29 <Fluffernutter>	aw, what's the fun if they don't invade
May 03 03:42:36 <matthewrbowker>	quanticle: Well, the US did invade Canada about 5 times.
May 03 03:42:44 <MuZemike>	What is all this arguing aboot?
May 03 03:42:48 <quanticle>	5 times?
May 03 03:42:52 <Headbomb|Laptop>	seems like a tory majority yeah
May 03 03:42:53 *	Fluffernutter argues with MuZemike
May 03 03:42:57 <Headbomb|Laptop>	goddamned fucking shit fuck
May 03 03:42:57 <quanticle>	I know the war of 1812.
May 03 03:43:02 <quanticle>	What about the other 4
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May 03 03:43:47 <Fluffernutter>	ow my bran
May 03 03:43:50 <Fluffernutter>	+i
May 03 03:43:50 <matthewrbowker>	Hmmm... I don't know.  That's just what my history teacher says.
May 03 03:44:05 <matthewrbowker>	Fluffernutter: Go to bed... It'll help :)
May 03 03:44:12 <Fluffernutter>	can't
May 03 03:44:16 <Fluffernutter>	too busy worrying
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May 03 03:45:57 <Headbomb|Laptop>	Canada is so fucked...
May 03 03:46:06 <Fluffernutter>	why, who got elected?
May 03 03:46:43 <Headbomb|Laptop>	looks like a conservative majority
May 03 03:46:46 <MuZemike>	I see your political pendulum finally swung the other way.
May 03 03:47:00 <Fluffernutter>	swing swang swung
May 03 03:47:05 <Fluffernutter>	swang?
May 03 03:47:07 <Headbomb|Laptop>	MuZemike an artefact of the elecoral system more than a representation of where the country stands
May 03 03:47:14 <Headbomb|Laptop>	electoral
May 03 03:47:16 <geniice>	hmm I'd completely forgotten about Danese Cooper before today's signphost
May 03 03:47:18 <Fluffernutter>	*artifacr
May 03 03:47:23 <Fluffernutter>	*artifact
May 03 03:47:47 <quanticle>	Headbomb|Laptop: Like George W. Bush's win in 2000?
May 03 03:47:49 *	Fluffernutter has an english
May 03 03:48:02 <Headbomb|Laptop>	not quite, but a bit similar
May 03 03:48:26 <Headbomb|Laptop>	bush in 2000 was elected because of political judges
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May 03 03:48:29 <MuZemike>	It's basic sociology, folks. When one side becomes too dominant, the other side tends to make a big run.
May 03 03:48:50 *	Fluffernutter blinks owlishly
May 03 03:48:52 <Headbomb|Laptop>	MuZemike: not really, this is the result of a divided left
May 03 03:48:56 <Headbomb|Laptop>	more than a swing
May 03 03:49:06 <quanticle>	Headbomb|Laptop: Yeah, but the only reason the judges had any say at all was because our electoral system gave disproportionate voice to smaller states.
May 03 03:49:25 <Headbomb|Laptop>	quanticle: bush still lost the popular vote in 2000
May 03 03:49:41 <Headbomb|Laptop>	and Gore won Florida
May 03 03:50:25 <quanticle>	Headbomb|Laptop: So did Harper win the popular vote in Canada?
May 03 03:50:30 <Headbomb|Laptop>	no
May 03 03:50:35 <Headbomb|Laptop>	he's got ~40%
May 03 03:50:38 <Fluffernutter>	who won?
May 03 03:50:44 <Headbomb|Laptop>	Harper will
May 03 03:50:55 <Fluffernutter>	and dpes that mean they get to be in charge?
May 03 03:51:54 <Headbomb>	he'll have a majority of seats, so yes
May 03 03:53:31 <Headbomb>	which is why it was important that he did not get it
May 03 03:53:44 <quanticle>	But he got it, didn't he?
May 03 03:53:44 <Fluffernutter>	wait, so this was all about voting out harper
May 03 03:53:51 <Fluffernutter>	and you...voted in harper>
May 03 03:53:52 <quanticle>	Fluffernutter: Yeah.
May 03 03:53:53 <OlEnglish>	wow, the greens won a seat
May 03 03:53:59 <Fluffernutter>	dammit, canada
May 03 03:53:59 <OlEnglish>	elizabeth may
May 03 03:54:00 <Headbomb>	yes
May 03 03:54:16 <OlEnglish>	saanich
May 03 03:54:23 <Headbomb>	Harper is a brand of insiduous evil that is destroying Canada from the inside
May 03 03:54:50 <Headbomb>	pro-torture, anti-gay, pro-religious, anti-secularism, anti-women, etc...
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May 03 03:56:28 <Headbomb>	I should rather say pro-Christian, because he's anti-Mulsim
May 03 03:56:32 <Headbomb>	*Muslim
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May 03 03:57:07 <OlEnglish>	oh shutup
May 03 03:57:08 <Chris_G>	!ops
May 03 03:57:14 <nb>	STFU
May 03 03:57:15 <matthewrbowker>	STFU
May 03 03:57:16 <nb>	!ops
May 03 03:57:19 <Loki>	!admin
May 03 03:57:22 <RudyValencia>	I only have to use SASL when I log on using AndroIRC.
May 03 03:57:22 <Headbomb>	in a nutshell, Harper is like the Republicans, but he never got to be as bad as them because he always had minorities
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May 03 03:57:35 <Herodotus>	idoru: Behave, please.
May 03 03:57:35 <Brian_S>	FAdmArcher:
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May 03 03:57:40 *	FAdmArcher sets ban on anwerb!*@*
May 03 03:57:49 <Brian_S>	You suck at bans.
May 03 03:57:49 <Logan_>	heh
May 03 03:57:50 *	FAdmArcher removes ban on anwerb!*@*
May 03 03:57:56 <FAdmArcher>	damn chatzilla
May 03 03:57:58 *	Logan_ agrees with Brian_S 
May 03 03:58:01 <Loki>	He does xD
May 03 03:58:01 <Logan_>	:P
May 03 03:58:13 <Pilif12p>	yes yes okay okay
May 03 03:58:20 <RudyValencia>	Why do those trolls say people have to change to SASL?
May 03 03:58:23 <Logan_>	yes Tanner? :P
May 03 03:58:49 <Elockid>	so what was that about?
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May 03 03:59:02 <Sceptre>	also Headbomb: what the fuck is wrong with Canada
May 03 03:59:05 <Irish_Eddy>	What on earth is SASL?
May 03 03:59:12 *	Fluffernutter hides
May 03 03:59:13 <NA_0>	What mode is +bb? Double-ban?
May 03 03:59:21 <Loki>	NA_0: two bans
May 03 03:59:26 <Loki>	Irish_Eddy: wiki it
May 03 03:59:32 <Headbomb>	Sceptre: Harper
May 03 03:59:33 <Loki>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Authentication_and_Security_Layer
May 03 03:59:36 <Headbomb>	Harper is wrong with Canada
May 03 03:59:36 <Irish_Eddy>	good idea!
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May 03 03:59:45 <Fluffernutter>	Headbomb: my friend on another server wants to know if you voted NDP
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May 03 03:59:50 <Sceptre>	giving a party objectively found to be lying cunts a majority :why:
May 03 04:00:00 <Headbomb>	I have no fucking idea
May 03 04:00:02 <Logan_>	FAdmArcher: You fail. :P
May 03 04:00:10 <OlEnglish>	the NDP being the opposition should balance it out well
May 03 04:00:15 <Headbomb>	Fluffernutter: i voted red, but it didn`t make a difference, the blue got in here
May 03 04:00:17 <FAdmArcher>	I blame my client
May 03 04:00:18 <FAdmArcher>	:P
May 03 04:00:53 <Headbomb>	orange finished third, took too many of red`s votes, and the blue got in
May 03 04:00:53 *	Fluffernutter blames FAdmArcher's client
May 03 04:01:00 <Logan_>	FAdmArcher: use X-Chat :P
May 03 04:01:12 <OlEnglish>	third?
May 03 04:01:17 <Headbomb>	CON had 35%
May 03 04:01:30 <Headbomb>	Lib, 32/ and NDP 29%
May 03 04:01:33 <Fluffernutter>	oops. i just broke my plastic tumbler
May 03 04:01:43 *	Fluffernutter coordination ftw
May 03 04:01:46 <Headbomb>	Green had.... 4
May 03 04:02:07 <OlEnglish>	in your riding?
May 03 04:02:09 <Headbomb>	fucking first past the post system
May 03 04:02:11 <Headbomb>	yes
May 03 04:02:14 <Headbomb>	OlEnglish: yes
May 03 04:02:16 <Irish_Eddy>	Hmmm, I'm using Chatzilla. Not a clue what they do with SASL :-)
May 03 04:02:20 <OlEnglish>	oh
May 03 04:02:54 <OlEnglish>	i voted NDP, they finished second in my riding with 23.81%
May 03 04:03:12 <Headbomb>	and fucking divided left too
May 03 04:03:26 <mindspillage>	Fluffernutter: that seems like a good automatic way to tell when you've had enough... you break your cup, you're done. :-P
May 03 04:04:06 <FAdmArcher>	NA_0: it's two seperate bans
May 03 04:04:08 <Fluffernutter>	heh, good point mindspillage
May 03 04:04:11 <FAdmArcher>	oops
May 03 04:04:22 <FAdmArcher>	scroll down needed :P
May 03 04:04:48 <Headbomb>	fucking Genocide for the Bloc too
May 03 04:04:53 <Headbomb>	down to 2 seats....
May 03 04:04:55 <Sceptre>	Headbomb: if it's any consolation, you've probably helped get rid of fuhpuhtuhpuh in the UK
May 03 04:05:01 <Fluffernutter>	perhaps this is a sign i need to sleep
May 03 04:05:06 <Fluffernutter>	i think i shall try
May 03 04:05:11 *	Fluffernutter is now known as Fluff|sleep
May 03 04:05:14 <Headbomb>	Sceptre: did I ? and it's not any consolation
May 03 04:05:14 <mindspillage>	g'night!
May 03 04:05:19 <Sceptre>	well
May 03 04:05:21 <Sceptre>	Canada
May 03 04:05:26 <FAdmArcher>	CON & NDP good job! LB BQ GREEN you are where you belong ;P
May 03 04:05:48 <Sceptre>	the campaign to change to AV needs a monumental fuck up under FPTP which is not "last May"
May 03 04:05:49 <Headbomb>	Lib should be in NDP`s place, and NDP in the Con`s place
May 03 04:06:00 *	FAdmArcher removes channel operator status from FAdmArcher
May 03 04:06:01 <Headbomb>	with the Con in the lib`s place
May 03 04:06:17 <Headbomb>	and block is where it belongs with only 2 seats so far
May 03 04:06:23 <Headbomb>	where it`s leading
May 03 04:09:54 <quanticle>	What's SASL?
May 03 04:11:02 <OlEnglish>	sumthun sumthin socket layer
May 03 04:12:17 <Logan_>	Simple Authentication and Security Layer
May 03 04:13:07 <quanticle>	Headbomb: Arguably, I see that as a good thing. I never much liked Bloc Quebecois.
May 03 04:13:20 <KFP>	OlEnglish: One correct word out of four. Success!
May 03 04:13:26 <OlEnglish>	hehe :)
May 03 04:13:28 <quanticle>	Bunch'a' separatist douches in my opinion.
May 03 04:13:32 <Headbomb>	the bloc was a swell party if you disregard the seperation issue
May 03 04:13:46 <Headbomb>	forget the seperatism, and they are awesome
May 03 04:13:56 <Headbomb>	include the seperatism, and they are shit
May 03 04:14:19 <Headbomb>	however seperatism has been irrelevant in the last 10 years+
May 03 04:14:24 <quanticle>	But how can you separate (haha pun) separatism from the bloc?
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May 03 04:15:07 <Headbomb>	Harper talked more of Seperatism than the Bloc ever did since the sponsorship scandal
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May 03 04:18:09 <quanticle>	Oh really? I'm an American, if you haven't guessed already, so forgive me if some of my information is dated.
May 03 04:18:43 <Logan_>	DQ|sleep: Sleep opping much? :P
May 03 04:19:03 <geniice>	Headbomb with their crazy language requirements the bloc are effectively going in for ethnic clensing light
May 03 04:19:16 <DQ|sleep>	heh...yep before I go to bed, but this one (IRC client) will stay live forever now :P
May 03 04:19:23 <DQ|sleep>	anyway...night.
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May 03 04:20:31 <Headbomb>	quanticle: you knew the Bloc existed and were seperatists
May 03 04:20:39 <Headbomb>	that`s better than 95% of americans, if not more
May 03 04:21:03 <quanticle>	Headbomb: I used to listen to the CBC's As It Happens program on public radio.
May 03 04:21:07 <quanticle>	:)
May 03 04:27:50 <OlEnglish>	i wonder if they're gonna get rid of ignatieff
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May 03 04:30:14 <Headbomb>	OlEnglish: they don`t really have a choice
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May 03 04:36:15 <Headbomb>	Duceppe will be out too
May 03 04:36:22 <Headbomb>	this might be the real end of the block
May 03 04:36:26 <Headbomb>	Bloc
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May 03 04:37:29 <Sven_Manguard>	Anyone here seen Narodnik recently?
May 03 04:37:35 <OlEnglish>	no but they can still remain party leaders
May 03 04:37:56 <OlEnglish>	i;m wondering if the liberal party will get rid of ignatieff
May 03 04:38:14 <Narodnik>	I'm Narodnik, and so's my wife.
May 03 04:38:19 <Headbomb>	well yeah, but after such crushing defeats, their parties will lynch them if they don`t step down
May 03 04:38:28 <Sven_Manguard>	oh hi
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May 03 04:38:38 <Gfoley4>	yes hello
May 03 04:38:43 <Gfoley4>	Gfoley4 here
May 03 04:38:46 <OlEnglish>	ignatieff said he's staying
May 03 04:38:53 <OlEnglish>	Gfoley4!
May 03 04:38:58 <Gfoley4>	:D
May 03 04:39:03 <Gfoley4>	OlEnglish!
May 03 04:39:08 <Headbomb>	Ignatieff will be kicked out then
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May 03 04:39:39 <Headbomb>	Bob Rae currently advocating merging with the NDP, indirectly of course
May 03 04:39:52 <Headbomb>	Bob Rae for liberal leader
May 03 04:39:55 <Headbomb>	like it should have been
May 03 04:40:12 <Headbomb>	Duceppe to speak
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May 03 04:42:16 <LauraHale>	Ef
May 03 04:42:24 <derp>	LauraHale <3
May 03 04:42:24 <LauraHale>	There is a tornado in Auckland
May 03 04:42:45 <Headbomb>	there's a worse disaster a Canada
May 03 04:43:09 <LauraHale>	Yes, but you're not actually in Auckland.
May 03 04:43:26 <Headbomb>	no but i'm actually in Canada
May 03 04:43:48 <LauraHale>	Your election will be screwed up.
May 03 04:43:55 <Headbomb>	it`s mostly over now
May 03 04:44:02 <Headbomb>	the damage is horrible
May 03 04:44:04 <derp>	Headbomb, so who's your MP?
May 03 04:44:09 <Headbomb>	Robert Goguen
May 03 04:44:17 <Headbomb>	it was Brian Murphy
May 03 04:44:33 <Headbomb>	but he got defeated today
May 03 04:44:33 <derp>	Montreal ALMOSt had Conservative
May 03 04:44:52 <Headbomb>	i'm fucking shattered here
May 03 04:44:59 <derp>	And BYE BYE ANDRÉ ARTHUR!
May 03 04:45:08 <Headbomb>	and duceppe
May 03 04:45:21 <Headbomb>	duceppe reached the mic
May 03 04:45:33 <derp>	man
May 03 04:45:37 <derp>	montreal all orange
May 03 04:45:41 <derp>	all over the area
May 03 04:45:42 <derp>	orange
May 03 04:45:43 <derp>	and orange
May 03 04:46:27 <OlEnglish>	good
May 03 04:46:41 <derp>	in a nearby riding
May 03 04:46:47 <derp>	a comedian particpated
May 03 04:47:12 <derp>	he specializes in loudmouth comedy
May 03 04:47:18 <derp>	and insult comedy
May 03 04:47:27 <derp>	 came third.
May 03 04:47:48 <OlEnglish>	a former marijuana party member won a seat
May 03 04:48:03 <OlEnglish>	now with ndp
May 03 04:48:26 <Headbomb>	Madame Ignatieff :p
May 03 04:49:55 <Headbomb>	Duceppe endorsing NDP, sorta
May 03 04:50:40 <derp>	I'm out
May 03 04:50:40 <derp>	<3
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May 03 04:51:05 <OlEnglish>	yes!
May 03 04:51:09 <OlEnglish>	buh bye
May 03 04:51:43 <OlEnglish>	oh..
May 03 04:51:51 <OlEnglish>	that wasn't directed at derp btw
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May 03 05:00:54 <UrgeRoute>	anyone here?
May 03 05:01:06 <Gfoley4>	no
May 03 05:01:09 <Neo>	[VLC-Video]: House S07E20 [16:01:44/16:43:09] - [Codec: MPEG-4 Video (XVID)]
May 03 05:01:13 <Gfoley4>	only 153 people
May 03 05:01:53 <UrgeRoute>	can you help me out with a redirect?
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May 03 05:02:07 <UrgeRoute>	i just added in a needed redirect string but it wont shoot down the line
May 03 05:02:42 <NA_0>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Double_redirects
May 03 05:02:43 <UrgeRoute>	i was looking for information on Flash Paper (magicians prop), but i was instead sent to a page about some computer tech
May 03 05:02:58 <NA_0>	Oh, did I misinterpret your question?
May 03 05:03:05 <UrgeRoute>	so i deleted the content fo FlashPaper and added in #REDIRECT [[Flash Paper]]
May 03 05:03:14 <UrgeRoute>	but i got there and found some selector page
May 03 05:03:27 <UrgeRoute>	so i replaced it with #REDIRECT [[Nitrocellulose]]
May 03 05:03:48 <UrgeRoute>	then iwanted to clarify so i made the page Flash Paper (Nitrocellulose) wit hthe content of Nitrocellulose
May 03 05:04:08 <UrgeRoute>	then added #REDIRECT [[Flash Paper (Nitrocellulose)]] to the top of it
May 03 05:04:34 <UrgeRoute>	but if i go to FlashPaper i have to click through the chain, i dont end up at Flash Paper (Nitrocellulose) immediately like i shjould
May 03 05:04:55 <NA_0>	So you cut-and-paste-moved and made a triple redirect.
May 03 05:04:57 <UrgeRoute>	if you want to see what I mean start at the page FlashPaper (no space) and you wil lsee
May 03 05:05:05 <UrgeRoute>	i what?
May 03 05:05:23 <UrgeRoute>	is that what I wanted to do?
May 03 05:05:32 <UrgeRoute>	i need to find how to make a triple redirect?
May 03 05:05:33 <NA_0>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_fix_cut-and-paste_moves
May 03 05:05:53 <NA_0>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Double_redirects
May 03 05:05:57 <UrgeRoute>	nono the cut and paste move worked
May 03 05:06:06 <UrgeRoute>	i just need the redirects to go where they need to
May 03 05:06:14 <UrgeRoute>	so i guess i need to turn it into a triple redirect?
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May 03 05:06:22 <NA_0>	No, cut and paste moves aren't supposed to be done
May 03 05:06:29 <UrgeRoute>	is that the same as making a double redirect? (which I presume that page explains?)
May 03 05:06:32 <Mono>	NA_0: don't spam links at people
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May 03 05:06:45 <NA_0>	And the problem with the redirects is that you made a triple redirect, which also shouldn't be done.
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May 03 05:06:51 <UrgeRoute>	oh
May 03 05:07:01 <NA_0>	Mono: Sorry, can you handle this
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May 03 05:07:26 <Mono>	UrgeRoute: see if you can undo all the edits you just made and I'll walk you through moving a page
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May 03 05:07:34 <Mono>	UrgeRoute: what's your Wikipedia username?
May 03 05:07:34 <UrgeRoute>	my intent was to make it so if i go to flashpaper it bumps me to flash paper, which bumps you to nitrocellulose, which bumps you to flash paper (nitrocellulose) all in one shot
May 03 05:07:41 <UrgeRoute>	Urgeroute
May 03 05:07:51 <Mono>	OK.
May 03 05:07:59 <UrgeRoute>	so paste all the old content back?
May 03 05:08:07 <Mono>	Did you try to move the text of one article to another by copying and pasting?
May 03 05:08:10 <UrgeRoute>	some of it i permanently deleted though
May 03 05:08:13 <UrgeRoute>	kind of
May 03 05:08:27 <UrgeRoute>	i was looking for information on Flash Paper (magicians prop), but i was instead sent to a page about some computer tech [21:03] <NA_0> Oh, did I misinterpret your question? [21:03] <UrgeRoute> so i deleted the content fo FlashPaper and added in #REDIRECT [[Flash Paper]] [21:03] <UrgeRoute> but i got there and found some selector page [21:03] <UrgeRoute> so i replaced it with #REDIRECT [[Nitrocellulose]] [21:03] <UrgeRoute> th
May 03 05:08:43 <UrgeRoute>	wit hthe content of Nitrocellulose [21:04] <UrgeRoute> then added #REDIRECT [[Flash Paper (Nitrocellulose)]] to the top of it [21:04] <UrgeRoute> but if i go to FlashPaper i have to click through the chain, i dont end up at Flash Paper (Nitrocellulose) immediately like i shjould
May 03 05:09:14 <Mono>	OK.
May 03 05:09:14 <UrgeRoute>	I cant undo what i did b/c i would need the content of the old pages to paste them back in
May 03 05:09:20 <UrgeRoute>	and i deleted the computer flashpaper content
May 03 05:09:22 <Mono>	ONE SEC.
May 03 05:09:31 <Mono>	Whoops..caps lock fail
May 03 05:09:35 <UrgeRoute>	go to the page
May 03 05:09:40 <UrgeRoute>	FlashPaper (no spaces)
May 03 05:09:43 <UrgeRoute>	youll see what my prob. is
May 03 05:09:47 <UrgeRoute>	it doesnt shoot down the line
May 03 05:10:04 <UrgeRoute>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashpaper
May 03 05:11:11 <UrgeRoute>	i wanted to make is so if you click to any of those pages you get put into the line which goes to the end FlashPaper > Flash Paper > Nitrocellulose >Flash Paper (Nitrocellulose), that way going to any of the four you end up at Flash Paper (Nitrocellulose)
May 03 05:11:23 <Mono>	I'm working on it
May 03 05:11:37 <UrgeRoute>	thanks
May 03 05:11:47 <Mono>	We can't do that with FlashPaper, as there's already an article there.
May 03 05:13:26 <UrgeRoute>	ok i added {{subst:afd1}} to remove my old changes
May 03 05:13:42 <UrgeRoute>	right, I removed it and pasted in #REDIRECT
May 03 05:14:01 <UrgeRoute>	i have added {{subst:afd1}} to all 4 pages to remove my edits so your fixes can go in
May 03 05:14:10 <UrgeRoute>	that makes things delete right?
May 03 05:14:51 <UrgeRoute>	why do you say that doesnt work with flashpaper?
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May 03 05:15:00 <UrgeRoute>	does an article block #redirect from working?
May 03 05:15:18 <Mono>	I've fixed it, UrgeRoute
May 03 05:15:26 <Mono>	Double check it and make sure I did it right.
May 03 05:15:37 <UrgeRoute>	ok
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May 03 05:16:28 <UrgeRoute>	its all back how ti was before i edited it?
May 03 05:17:05 <UrgeRoute>	my intent was to take the content of Nitrocellulose and copy it to a new article called "Nitrocellulose (Flash Paper)"
May 03 05:17:22 <UrgeRoute>	then redirect FlashPaper, Flash Paper ,and Nitrocellulose to Nitrocellulose (Flash Paper)
May 03 05:17:46 <UrgeRoute>	now the computer article and the selector page come up again and my new page vanished??
May 03 05:17:55 <Mono>	OK. I think it's best to leave it at Nitrocellulose and redirect Nitrocellulose (Flash Paper) to Nitrocellulose
May 03 05:18:12 <UrgeRoute>	what about Flash Paper and FlashPaper?
May 03 05:18:14 *	NA_0|away is now known as NA_0
May 03 05:18:17 <Mono>	We can't redirect the FlashPaper article, as it's a notable article.
May 03 05:18:28 <UrgeRoute>	i think i may gave undone everything when i added that {{subst:afd1}} thing
May 03 05:18:53 <Mono>	and Flash Paper is sent to a disambiguation page, where the reader is shown two pages they may want to view
May 03 05:19:03 <UrgeRoute>	right, i was trying to fix that
May 03 05:19:10 <UrgeRoute>	so it goes to the article about flash paper instead
May 03 05:19:25 <Mono>	UrgeRoute: it's better if the reader has the choice.
May 03 05:19:31 <UrgeRoute>	ah
May 03 05:19:36 <UrgeRoute>	i was trying to make it less clicks
May 03 05:19:37 <Mono>	Say my name is John and I want to learn about Adobe Flash Paper
May 03 05:19:43 <NA_0>	When they type in "Flash Paper", some people want to know about the software and some want to know about nitrocellulose.
May 03 05:20:05 <NA_0>	That is the purpose of the disambiguation page.
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May 03 05:20:11 <Mono>	NA_0 is right. That's why we have those pages, but they sometimes are cumbersome.
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May 03 05:20:25 <UrgeRoute>	what threw me off is when i ran a google search for flash paper i landed not at that selector (disambiguation?) page, but instead i landed at FlashPaper (the software)
May 03 05:20:51 <UrgeRoute>	also what is a tripel redirect? (the other guy said theyre not good?)
May 03 05:20:55 <Mono>	We cannot change Google search results. If we could, I'd be very right by now.
May 03 05:20:57 <UrgeRoute>	triple*
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May 03 05:21:07 <Mono>	UrgeRoute: it's a redirect to a redirect to a redirect.
May 03 05:21:11 <UrgeRoute>	thats bad?
May 03 05:21:15 <NA_0>	A hatnote might be in order here?
May 03 05:21:17 <Mono>	lots of clicking
May 03 05:21:20 <UrgeRoute>	how do i send multiple pages to the same end page?
May 03 05:21:22 <Mono>	NA_0: sure.
May 03 05:21:31 <UrgeRoute>	can i just redirect them all to the same target?
May 03 05:21:35 <UrgeRoute>	whats a hatnote?
May 03 05:21:39 <Mono>	UrgeRoute: instead of redirecting to a redirect, redirect them all to the same oage.
May 03 05:21:43 <Mono>	*page
May 03 05:21:50 <UrgeRoute>	so tis legal to have multiple pointing to one?
May 03 05:21:53 <UrgeRoute>	its*
May 03 05:21:53 <UrgeRoute>	ok
May 03 05:21:56 <Mono>	Yep :)
May 03 05:22:01 <UrgeRoute>	nice
May 03 05:22:46 <UrgeRoute>	well I guess that whole edit just fell kind of useless, but thanks anyhow
May 03 05:23:09 <OlEnglish>	welp.. looks like Canadian Wikipedians gonna be busy creating a bunch of articles for newly elected NDPers
May 03 05:23:21 <OlEnglish>	and lots of em
May 03 05:24:12 <UrgeRoute>	ah there we go, i found a page called a sandbox
May 03 05:24:21 <UrgeRoute>	good place to test stuff right?
May 03 05:25:31 <OlEnglish>	yes UrgeRoute, thats what its for
May 03 05:25:38 <UrgeRoute>	ty
May 03 05:26:24 <UrgeRoute>	EEK
May 03 05:26:36 <UrgeRoute>	some automated thing is yelling at me for using the sandbox and says to use the sandbox instead??
May 03 05:27:29 <UrgeRoute>	argh w/e probably a glitch
May 03 05:27:36 <OlEnglish>	ignore it
May 03 05:28:37 <UrgeRoute>	someone renamed that sandbox sandpit, maybe that caused it
May 03 05:28:37 <UrgeRoute>	w/e
May 03 05:29:05 <UrgeRoute>	hmm, maybe i can use this to test changing namex
May 03 05:29:09 <UrgeRoute>	how do i change the title back?
May 03 05:29:15 <UrgeRoute>	since the cut and paste thing is a nono i guess
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May 03 05:30:53 <UrgeRoute>	messages still coming ,weird
May 03 05:30:56 <UrgeRoute>	someone sent me this i think
May 03 05:30:57 <UrgeRoute>	Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Sandpit, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. AdvertAdam talk 04:30, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
May 03 05:31:02 <UrgeRoute>	ignore that one too?
May 03 05:31:21 <OlEnglish>	uhh sandpit?
May 03 05:31:27 <OlEnglish>	i thnk you're on the wrong page..
May 03 05:31:32 <OlEnglish>	you want WP:SANDBOX
May 03 05:31:56 <UrgeRoute>	i typed sandbox and i found another one of those disambig pages which led to sandpit
May 03 05:32:00 <UrgeRoute>	so i tried to change it back to sandbox
May 03 05:32:10 <UrgeRoute>	by adding #REDIRECT [[sandbox]]
May 03 05:32:17 <OlEnglish>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox
May 03 05:32:28 <OlEnglish>	which is currently being taken up by some blonde
May 03 05:32:30 <UrgeRoute>	heres what ive been editing
May 03 05:32:31 <UrgeRoute>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandpit
May 03 05:32:46 <UrgeRoute>	that the right one but in the wrong place?
May 03 05:32:46 <OlEnglish>	ya.. you want http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox
May 03 05:32:57 <UrgeRoute>	uh
May 03 05:33:03 <UrgeRoute>	thats a whole different page...
May 03 05:33:09 <UrgeRoute>	oops?
May 03 05:33:13 <OlEnglish>	Sandpit is an article on sandpits
May 03 05:33:20 <UrgeRoute>	ooohh....
May 03 05:33:26 <UrgeRoute>	oops >_<
May 03 05:33:27 <UrgeRoute>	sorry
May 03 05:33:29 <OlEnglish>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox is the testing space
May 03 05:33:35 <OlEnglish>	no worries
May 03 05:33:36 <UrgeRoute>	ill add the delete tag to make it undo it
May 03 05:33:48 <OlEnglish>	you've already been reverted
May 03 05:33:55 <Demiurge1000>	Do we have any admins here who might deal with a small issue? Quite simple and I don't see it as an emergency
May 03 05:34:30 <UrgeRoute>	reverted?
May 03 05:34:38 <UrgeRoute>	you mean i didnt need {{subst:afd1}}on the page to fix it?
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May 03 05:35:19 <Headbomb>	hmmmm Layton making a sort of peace branch offering to liberals...
May 03 05:35:27 <Headbomb>	maybe he`s open to a merger
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May 03 05:37:22 <UrgeRoute>	ok so how do i add {{subst:afd1}} to a page without making this thing?
May 03 05:37:31 <UrgeRoute>	This template is being used in the wrong namespace. To nominate this talk page for deletion, go to Miscellany for deletion. 	This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for deletion page. Feel free to edit the article, but the article must not be blanked, and this notice must not be removed, until 
May 03 05:37:44 <UrgeRoute>	im trying to discuss it wit hthe guy who fixed page and it made that boxy thing show up
May 03 05:37:45 <NA_0>	No, {{subst:afd1}} is not how to fix a page.
May 03 05:38:01 <NA_0>	What are you trying to do?
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May 03 05:38:10 <UrgeRoute>	delete my errant edit
May 03 05:38:15 <UrgeRoute>	so i put {{subst:afd1}} at the top of the page
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May 03 05:38:25 <killiondude>	What errant edit?
May 03 05:38:34 <killiondude>	That won't fix edits.
May 03 05:38:35 <UrgeRoute>	then i put an explanation of what i did on some users page and it mad e the box appear on it instead of the text talking about it
May 03 05:38:38 <UrgeRoute>	see
May 03 05:38:43 <UrgeRoute>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Adamrce
May 03 05:38:47 <UrgeRoute>	see what I mean?
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May 03 05:38:55 <UrgeRoute>	the one on sandpit
May 03 05:39:00 <UrgeRoute>	which i thought was a sandbox
May 03 05:39:04 <UrgeRoute>	it worked...
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May 03 05:39:39 <Urgeroute_>	got disconnected sorry
May 03 05:39:43 <Urgeroute_>	it worked...
May 03 05:40:16 <Urgeroute_>	i addedI added {{subst:afd1}} to the page and my errant edit went away and the content came back
May 03 05:40:34 <killiondude>	I don't think that template will help do anything you're trying to accomplish.
May 03 05:40:39 <OlEnglish>	no.. someone reverted you
May 03 05:40:42 <Urgeroute_>	and now I have this on my messages?
May 03 05:40:43 <Urgeroute_>	 This is your last warning; the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Sandpit, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. THIS is the sandbox, for testing!!! AdvertAdam talk 04:38, 3 May 2011
May 03 05:40:44 <OlEnglish>	they undid your edit for you
May 03 05:42:07 <Urgeroute_>	so it was just a coincidence that it fixed right after i added {{subst:afd1}}  to the top?
May 03 05:43:04 <OlEnglish>	it fixed because someone fixed it, you had nothing to do with it
May 03 05:43:20 <Urgeroute_>	oh =(
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May 03 05:43:41 <killiondude>	http://tinyurl.com/3checma
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May 03 05:45:38 <Urgeroute_>	so how do i properly use {{subst:afd1}} ?
May 03 05:45:42 <Urgeroute_>	whats it really do?
May 03 05:45:46 <Urgeroute_>	just make that weird box show up?
May 03 05:46:20 <killiondude>	It means you are proposing that an article should be deleted.
May 03 05:46:34 <Urgeroute_>	meaning the version of it i put it on?
May 03 05:46:41 <Urgeroute_>	or meaning an article by that name shouldnt exist anymore?
May 03 05:46:54 <killiondude>	Neither.
May 03 05:47:05 <Urgeroute_>	???
May 03 05:47:10 <killiondude>	An article in its entirety, no an accidental creation.
May 03 05:47:14 <killiondude>	*not
May 03 05:47:17 <Urgeroute_>	ah
May 03 05:47:30 <Urgeroute_>	so why would anyone want to remove an article outright?
May 03 05:47:31 <OlEnglish>	what are you trying to do?
May 03 05:47:43 <Urgeroute_>	just understand when  ishould stick {{subst:afd1}} on a page i guess
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May 03 05:48:01 <Urgeroute_>	and how to fix accidental edits that dont need {{subst:afd1}}
May 03 05:48:13 <Urgeroute_>	i guess theres a way to do something called revert from wehat youre saying?
May 03 05:48:19 <Urgeroute_>	{{REVERT}}?
May 03 05:48:22 <Urgeroute_>	#REVERT?
May 03 05:48:55 <topaz>	Urgeroute_: to understand what the {{afd1}} template is for, you should probably read [[Wikipedia:Guide to deletion]] first
May 03 05:48:56 <killiondude>	Hi. Welcome to Wikipedia!
May 03 05:49:11 <Urgeroute_>	hi, thanks
May 03 05:49:16 <killiondude>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction is useful.
May 03 05:49:22 <Urgeroute_>	the newbieness shows that much? >_<
May 03 05:49:33 <topaz>	but to make minor changes to an article, you can just click the "edit" tab at the top of the page
May 03 05:49:44 <Urgeroute_>	thats what i did
May 03 05:49:54 <Urgeroute_>	then people started yelling...
May 03 05:50:15 <topaz>	the "AFD" templates are for when an entire article should be deleted because it shouldn't be on Wikipedia at all for some reason
May 03 05:50:20 <OlEnglish>	i think you should do our tutorial
May 03 05:50:34 <OlEnglish>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial
May 03 05:50:45 <OlEnglish>	just follow the instructions
May 03 05:51:24 <Urgeroute_>	ok thanks
May 03 05:52:27 <Logan_>	MuZemike: you there?
May 03 05:52:36 <MuZemike>	Oww
May 03 05:52:39 <Urgeroute_>	yep
May 03 05:52:58 <Logan_>	MuZemike: could you pretty please handle the three CU requests at ACC? :P
May 03 05:53:17 <Logan_>	I will pay you in virtual cookies
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May 03 05:55:25 <Urgeroute_>	tutorial was helpful
May 03 05:55:33 <Headbomb>	to watch harper or not....
May 03 05:55:34 <Urgeroute_>	no explanation on stuff like #REDIRECT or {{subst:afd1}} tho
May 03 05:55:36 <Headbomb>	probably not
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May 03 05:55:49 <Urgeroute_>	so proper use of {{subst:afd1}} is to delete an unneeded page?
May 03 05:55:51 <Urgeroute_>	like this?
May 03 05:56:11 *	Logan_ looks longingly at MuZemike 
May 03 05:56:29 <OlEnglish>	so you want to learn how to delete pages?
May 03 05:56:32 <Urgeroute_>	Use {{subst:afd1}} to delete unneeded pages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deletion
May 03 05:56:48 <Urgeroute_>	well i was trying to learn to redirect
May 03 05:57:00 <Urgeroute_>	so i presume after i do i need to delete the leftovers
May 03 05:57:04 <Urgeroute_>	i tried it on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deletion
May 03 05:57:09 <Urgeroute_>	thats right, right?
May 03 05:57:14 <OlEnglish>	no
May 03 05:57:47 <OlEnglish>	you need to learn about namespaces..
May 03 05:58:09 <OlEnglish>	and a bunch of other stuff
May 03 05:58:15 <Urgeroute_>	I also want to nkow how to type {{subst:afd1}} when im talking with someone on wikipedia
May 03 05:58:23 <Urgeroute_>	without making this mess appear
May 03 05:58:33 <Urgeroute_>	Use 	This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for deletion page. Feel free to edit the article, but the article must not be blanked, and this notice must not be removed, until the discussion is closed. For more information, particularly on merging or moving the article during the discussion, re
May 03 05:58:55 <OlEnglish>	just forget about  {{subst:afd1}}
May 03 05:59:00 <Urgeroute_>	like it did on the page deletion where i entered it
May 03 05:59:00 <topaz>	Urgeroute_: you want to know how to leave a comment that says "{{subst:afd1}}" without having it actually produe the whole AFD box?
May 03 05:59:07 <Urgeroute_>	right
May 03 05:59:14 <MuZemike>	Why do we even have "in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy" at the end there?
May 03 05:59:16 <Urgeroute_>	i think i deleted someones userpage and made them mad =(
May 03 05:59:31 <Urgeroute_>	by mentioning by mentioning {{subst:afd1}} on it
May 03 05:59:51 <Urgeroute_>	all i emant was to talk about having used {{subst:afd1}} elsewhere
May 03 06:00:22 <topaz>	Urgeroute_: that's a little easier.  type "{{subst:afd1}}" in your comment.
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May 03 06:00:49 <topaz>	putting ... around pretty much anything will prevent the wiki software from interpreting it as a template or command.
May 03 06:01:11 <Urgeroute_>	Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deletion
May 03 06:01:54 <topaz>	yes, but please don't test things there.  Use the sandbox for that.
May 03 06:02:06 <topaz>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox
May 03 06:02:53 <Sven_Manguard>	oh my god
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May 03 06:03:04 <Logan_>	Sven_Manguard: What?
May 03 06:03:11 <Sven_Manguard>	some IP just messaged me "Koopa likes it when you touch him there"
May 03 06:03:24 <Logan_>	hahaha
May 03 06:03:37 <Sven_Manguard>	was that you?
May 03 06:03:46 <Urgeroute_>	back
May 03 06:03:49 <Urgeroute_>	not me....
May 03 06:03:54 <killiondude>	i wouldn't doubt it
May 03 06:04:05 <Urgeroute_>	my fear is that i accidentally suggested that that page about deletion be deleted itself
May 03 06:04:13 <Urgeroute_>	my intent was to addin a useful statement about deletion to it
May 03 06:04:46 <killiondude>	You probably should stick to fixing typos or something small right now.
May 03 06:04:50 <topaz>	Urgeroute_: I think that that was what you did by accident. No major harm done. But I think it's also probably a good idea to try to stick to more minor changes to Wikipedia for now.
May 03 06:05:14 <topaz>	it's a lot easier to get the swing of how Wikipedia works if you start small. :-)
May 03 06:05:22 <Urgeroute_>	Use {{subst:afd1}} to delete unneeded pages!
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May 03 06:05:27 <Urgeroute_>	that one worked i think
May 03 06:05:34 <Urgeroute_>	that didnt make it delete the article on deleting right?
May 03 06:06:01 <Urgeroute_>	just stated that you can use Use {{subst:afd1}} to delete stuff
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May 03 06:06:15 <topaz>	Urgeroute_: nope, it didn't list the article for deletion.
May 03 06:06:18 <MuZemike>	Used to request a deletion discussion.
May 03 06:06:48 <Urgeroute_>	so Use {{subst:afd1}} doesnt delete anything?
May 03 06:06:52 <killiondude>	Urgeroute_: You're likely going to be blocked if you don't stop editing like that.
May 03 06:06:59 <Logan_>	MuZemike: Thanks :)  Could you give [[User:SMM_SCL]] IPBE now that it was created?
May 03 06:07:00 <Urgeroute_>	what did i do wrong now?
May 03 06:07:08 <killiondude>	Articles aren't for testing things and numerous people have asked you to ONLY EDIT THE SANDBOX FOR TESTING.
May 03 06:07:11 <Urgeroute_>	i used the nowiki thingy to make it not work
May 03 06:07:25 <Urgeroute_>	i am using if for testing stuff
May 03 06:07:31 <Urgeroute_>	but im trying to make useful edits too
May 03 06:07:42 <Urgeroute_>	throughtout wikipedia
May 03 06:07:47 <killiondude>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deletion&diff=prev&oldid=427186639 Not useful.
May 03 06:08:05 <topaz>	Urgeroute_: this isn't a useful change, in part because the process of nominating an article for deletion is a lot more complicated than just adding {{subst:afd1}} to it.
May 03 06:08:08 <OlEnglish>	you've been shown the link to the sandbox
May 03 06:08:25 <OlEnglish>	here it is one more time
May 03 06:08:26 <Logan_>	MuZemike: thanks!
May 03 06:08:27 <OlEnglish>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox
May 03 06:08:33 <topaz>	Urgeroute_: I strongly recommend that you follow killiondude's advice and stick to small, simple changes for nwo.
May 03 06:08:37 <OlEnglish>	that page you can use to test whatever you want
May 03 06:08:48 <Urgeroute_>	i get that i can do test stuff there
May 03 06:08:58 <Urgeroute_>	but when i want to do real changes i have to do it outside right?
May 03 06:09:14 <Urgeroute_>	i guess i can keep it small to start
May 03 06:09:28 <topaz>	Urgeroute_: I also strongly recommend that you use the "preview" button before saving any changes, to make sure that the change does what you want it to.
May 03 06:09:30 <Urgeroute_>	i figured i was by dealing mainly with maintenance stuff like redirecting moving deleting etc
May 03 06:09:36 <Urgeroute_>	ok
May 03 06:09:44 <topaz>	definitely best to leave the maintenance stuff aside for now
May 03 06:10:16 <topaz>	it's better not to fiddle with that until you understand the Wikipedia administrative processes a little better, and some of them can be complicated
May 03 06:10:33 <Urgeroute_>	ah
May 03 06:11:55 <Urgeroute_>	well thanks for the help
May 03 06:12:00 <Urgeroute_>	guess ill cool it and read up a bit
May 03 06:12:03 <topaz>	enjoy wikipedia!
May 03 06:12:05 <Urgeroute_>	dont want to mess stuff up
May 03 06:12:07 <Urgeroute_>	thanks
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May 03 06:17:21 <topaz>	god help us all.
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May 03 06:18:32 <quanticle>	Haha.
May 03 06:18:51 <quanticle>	'grats, topaz, though. Nice job helping the newbie, and sticking to WP:Bite, in general
May 03 06:19:50 <topaz>	thx :-)
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May 03 06:20:25 <slakr>	http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/02/president-barack-obama-osama-bin-laden-sex-michelle-obama/
May 03 06:20:28 <slakr>	tmz asks the tough questions.
May 03 06:20:39 <slakr>	note the reader response poll.
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May 03 06:21:10 <quanticle>	I'd totally expect a victory lay
May 03 06:21:11 <quanticle>	:P
May 03 06:21:47 <killiondude>	dear god
May 03 06:21:53 <quanticle>	On the other hand, the kids were probably awake, so :/
May 03 06:22:02 <killiondude>	tmz should stick to hollywood. TEN MILE ZONE.
May 03 06:23:10 <closedmouth>	it's not like he did it himself
May 03 06:23:24 *	Logan_ is now known as ACCBat
May 03 06:24:08 <closedmouth>	tonight's colbert report should be fun
May 03 06:24:17 <slakr>	was*
May 03 06:24:24 <closedmouth>	oh
May 03 06:24:37 <closedmouth>	jeez what time is it
May 03 06:25:07 <slakr>	1:30am eastern
May 03 06:25:45 <closedmouth>	hmm
May 03 06:25:54 <killiondude>	it is 1:25 PM
May 03 06:25:57 <killiondude>	in the future
May 03 06:27:31 *	NA_0 is now known as NA_0|away
May 03 06:27:45 <slakr>	killiondude: flying cars yet?
May 03 06:28:00 *	ACCBat throws a whale at slakr
May 03 06:28:40 *	ACCBat is now known as [Live]
May 03 06:28:41 <slakr>	ermm... thanks?
May 03 06:28:47 <[Live]>	No prob.
May 03 06:28:48 *	slakr pockets the whale
May 03 06:28:57 <slakr>	I'm saving the whales
May 03 06:29:07 <matthewrbowker>	LOL
May 03 06:29:37 *	[Live] is bored.
May 03 06:29:47 <matthewrbowker>	[Live]: We noticed.
May 03 06:29:52 *	petan pong [Live]
May 03 06:29:59 <petan>	yesterday you needed me
May 03 06:30:03 <Prodego>	wtf: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden&diff=prev&oldid=427188493
May 03 06:30:05 <[Live]>	Yes, right.
May 03 06:30:18 <matthewrbowker>	damnit, every time [Live] talks it pings me ...
May 03 06:30:41 <[Live]>	petan: There's a weird thing going on where Huggle isn't detecting level 4 warnings and just keeps repeating them.
May 03 06:30:56 <killiondude>	Prodego: I deemed that person as a moron months ago
May 03 06:31:01 <petan>	yes I think it's related to template change I made
May 03 06:31:05 <[Live]>	It's quite unfortunate.
May 03 06:31:07 <slakr>	Prodego: actually, that's exactly what's popped into my mind over the last day.
May 03 06:31:15 <petan>	I will check it soon
May 03 06:31:20 <slakr>	Prodego: but really more the first song from Wicked.
May 03 06:31:24 <[Live]>	petan: Which template change?
May 03 06:31:28 <petan>	all?
May 03 06:31:31 <killiondude>	Get on down the road
May 03 06:31:33 <[Live]>	Ah, okay.
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May 03 06:32:02 *	[Live] is now known as RebeccaBlack
May 03 06:32:18 <slakr>	o/~ ease on down, ease on down the road... c'mon ease on down ease on down the road... don't you carry nothin' that might be a load, c'mon... ease on down, ease on down the roooad...
May 03 06:32:21 <matthewrbowker>	Thank You.
May 03 06:32:22 <RebeccaBlack>	petan: Is it related to the comment changes that I made in the templates?
May 03 06:32:43 <petan>	maybe
May 03 06:32:48 <RebeccaBlack>	:/
May 03 06:32:50 <RebeccaBlack>	oops :P
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May 03 06:32:56 <killiondude>	/mode +q RebeccaBlack
May 03 06:33:08 <RebeccaBlack>	killiondude: no u :P
May 03 06:33:10 <petan>	at least reverting it to older revision...
May 03 06:33:22 <RebeccaBlack>	killiondude: you can never quiet my beautiful voice :)
May 03 06:33:24 <petan>	maybe some from last month
May 03 06:33:31 <killiondude>	Hi there martin2df! Welcome to #wikipedia-en, the help channel for the English Wikipedia! Type your question in the white area at the bottom of the screen, and a helper should answer shortly.
May 03 06:33:50 <killiondude>	RebeccaBlack: Don't tempt me.
May 03 06:33:58 <RebeccaBlack>	Heh.
May 03 06:34:53 <killiondude>	no
May 03 06:35:20 <RebeccaBlack>	killiondude: PM, then? :P
May 03 06:35:33 <killiondude>	sure. i don't trust your invites.
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May 03 06:37:28 <RebeccaBlack>	tired Rebecca Black is tired
May 03 06:37:41 <Sven_Manguard>	Logan... who the hell is Rebecca Black?
May 03 06:37:51 <Sven_Manguard>	I see that name everywhere now.
May 03 06:37:51 <RebeccaBlack>	you have no class
May 03 06:37:59 <RebeccaBlack>	:P
May 03 06:38:00 <killiondude>	[[Rebecca Black]]
May 03 06:38:10 <slakr>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Black
May 03 06:38:15 <slakr>	you know
May 03 06:38:18 <MuZemike>	you ain't got no principles
May 03 06:38:19 <RebeccaBlack>	She was recently acclaimed for having one of the most talented voices on YouTube.
May 03 06:38:23 <slakr>	in case USING WIKIPEDIA didn't occur
May 03 06:39:04 <RebeccaBlack>	People have compared her to Aretha Franklin and the like.
May 03 06:39:26 *	NA_0|away is now known as NA_0
May 03 06:39:35 <Sven_Manguard>	Read... don't give a shit. Will wait for meme to pass.
May 03 06:39:48 <RebeccaBlack>	meme-tired Sven is meme-tired
May 03 06:40:08 <Sven_Manguard>	logan acting like an idiot makes Sven lose respect for logan
May 03 06:40:11 <RebeccaBlack>	Time to go write a rhetorical analysis at 1:40 AM.
May 03 06:40:18 <RebeccaBlack>	Always fun.
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May 03 06:43:19 *	slakr scratches head
May 03 06:43:35 <killiondude>	Yes, I did it solely off your random 122 piece of info.
May 03 06:43:41 <RebeccaBlack>	Cool.
May 03 06:43:54 <killiondude>	Sarcasm is hard. :(
May 03 06:44:03 <RebeccaBlack>	/s
May 03 06:44:48 *	slakr is confused
May 03 06:45:04 <slakr>	ah n/m
May 03 06:45:16 <RebeccaBlack>	slakr: It's alright; it will all come together eventually.  Don't be worried to express your inner feelings.
May 03 06:45:40 <killiondude>	Less mouthy.
May 03 06:46:27 <RebeccaBlack>	I'm coming out with a new song soon.
May 03 06:46:35 <RebeccaBlack>	It's called, "Saturday."
May 03 06:46:47 <RebeccaBlack>	I replaced every lyric in the song with the next day.  It's so original.
May 03 06:47:30 <RebeccaBlack>	Especially with the high-level diction and concrete details in the lyrics, it is sure to be critically-acclaimed.
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May 03 07:07:54 <Herodotus>	Logan_: Behave, please. Or at least be funny.
May 03 07:08:17 <Logan_>	I resent that.
May 03 07:08:22 <killiondude>	Resemble.
May 03 07:08:34 <Herodotus>	I'm just saying. You know what I'm saying?
May 03 07:09:06 <closedmouth>	are you hip to his scene, man?
May 03 07:09:50 <Logan_>	I'm down with that, brah.
May 03 07:12:10 <Logan_>	damn this shizzzz
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May 03 07:20:04 <heb>	Does fair use allow a media to be replaced?
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May 03 07:20:40 <heb>	The reason I'm asking is that the file http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:S%C3%B8v%C3%A6rnet.png shows the old logo, which has been replaced by a new one at the source site. Can I just replace it or should the old one be deleted first and then replaced with a new one?
May 03 07:21:15 <killiondude>	If anything you would upload a new version then get the older version deleted from the history.
May 03 07:22:17 <heb>	killiondude: So it's okay to have two fair use images of the same illustration (though in two different versions)?
May 03 07:22:35 <killiondude>	The older one would be deleted after a new version is uploaded.
May 03 07:22:52 <killiondude>	So for the file you linked, you would click "Upload a new version of this file"
May 03 07:23:05 <killiondude>	and use some sort of template magick after you're all done to get an admin to notice the old version
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May 03 07:24:57 <closedmouth>	you don't need to delete the old one as the fair use rationale should cover it
May 03 07:26:39 <killiondude>	ok
May 03 07:26:46 <heb>	closedmouth: Ah - cool. Thanks :)
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May 03 08:16:20 <Jeske_Couriano>	http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/experiment-log-261-ad-de
May 03 08:16:48 <killiondude>	not clicking
May 03 08:16:53 <Jeske_Couriano>	It's SFW
May 03 08:17:07 <Jeske_Couriano>	And most of it's humorous
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May 03 08:37:24 *	Topic for #wikipedia-en is: Status: Up | Channel guidelines at http://bit.ly/OiAr | For a channel operator ask in #wikimedia-ops or say !ops followed by request | For *emergency* admin help say !admin followed by your request | No public logging | 2010 POTY contest at http://j.mp/2010POTY
May 03 08:37:24 *	Topic for #wikipedia-en set by Thehelpfulone at Fri Apr 29 22:38:39 2011
May 03 08:37:24 *	#wikipedia-en :http://en.wikipedia.org/
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May 03 09:08:36 <MuZemike>	Can't be that much a difference: http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/e4e20548-85b3-48bc-a5db-f1c19c36e18d.jpg
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May 03 09:38:20 <Qcoder00>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_and_non-metropolitan_counties_of_England#External_links
May 03 09:38:50 <Qcoder00>	Where's the mistake in - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:UK-LEG as the link isn't displaying properly
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May 03 09:41:02 <Qcoder00>	UK-LEG can't cope with multi-line titles :(
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May 03 10:15:17 <sonia>	anyone here a Wikinewsie?
May 03 10:15:24 <Pesky>	Nope
May 03 10:15:47 <tommorris>	sonia: yes
May 03 10:16:19 <sonia>	tommorris: care to review something I just wrote?
May 03 10:16:23 <sonia>	I have no idea what the MOS is like
May 03 10:16:45 <tommorris>	I'll have a look
May 03 10:17:02 <tommorris>	which story is it?
May 03 10:17:22 <sonia>	http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/One_confirmed_dead_after_tornado_hits_Auckland,_New_Zealand
May 03 10:17:43 <sonia>	thank you :)
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May 03 10:19:36 <tommorris>	sonia: looks pretty good. any images available?
May 03 10:19:45 <sonia>	mrm, might try find one on flickr
May 03 10:19:51 <sonia>	I'm not going back out there right now, the traffic is too bad
May 03 10:20:18 <sonia>	and besides I got hit by a forklift truck today and probably shouldn't be going anywhere :p
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May 03 10:21:46 <tommorris>	a friend of mine had a full page in a Dutch paper yesterday
May 03 10:23:03 <sonia>	oh?
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May 03 10:24:31 <sonia>	don't seem to be any free pics on flickr or anywhere for that matter
May 03 10:24:39 <tommorris>	yep, he works for Rovio (makers of Angry Birds) and they wrote it up in a Dutch paper
May 03 10:24:56 <tommorris>	it was funny because we got on a train, found the free paper on the train and it had an interview with him
May 03 10:25:02 <sonia>	heh
May 03 10:25:09 <tommorris>	kinda weird if you don't know it was going to happen
May 03 10:25:25 <sonia>	yeah, would've been
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May 03 10:27:55 <tommorris>	sonia: looks good so far, few minor changes I've found
May 03 10:28:00 <sonia>	ok
May 03 10:28:08 <sonia>	so I haven't done anything flagrantly wrong? :P
May 03 10:28:26 <tommorris>	can't see anything too bad
May 03 10:29:02 <Theo10011>	wow sonia got hit by a forklift?
May 03 10:29:14 <sonia>	Theo10011: yes
May 03 10:29:18 <sonia>	I work on what is currently a construction site
May 03 10:29:31 <Theo10011>	hope you're alright.
May 03 10:29:35 <sonia>	and apparently being under five foot renders me invisible
May 03 10:30:07 <sonia>	nothing's broken; in the scheme of the tornado and all I'm very lucky that I was delayed and didn't get into the area until afterward :p
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May 03 10:37:08 <tommorris>	sonia: okay, added an infobox and changed "carpark" into "car park"
May 03 10:37:14 <tommorris>	I'll now pass it at review
May 03 10:37:20 <sonia>	tommorris: "carpark" is NZ English
May 03 10:37:35 <sonia>	as is my odd hyphenation habit
May 03 10:37:54 <tommorris>	well, I've published it now
May 03 10:37:55 <tommorris>	;-)
May 03 10:38:23 <sonia>	:P
May 03 10:38:30 <sonia>	thank you!
May 03 10:38:47 <sonia>	Just contacting someone who's uploading nice pics, to see if they'll release them
May 03 10:38:55 <tommorris>	how many articles have you published on WN now?
May 03 10:39:16 <tommorris>	just roughly?
May 03 10:39:36 <sonia>	...just the one? :p
May 03 10:39:41 <sonia>	I've never done this before.
May 03 10:39:53 <tommorris>	ah okay
May 03 10:39:56 <sonia>	once in a while I've done a quick copyedit of someone else's work
May 03 10:39:59 <sonia>	but yeah.
May 03 10:40:07 <sonia>	so I hope it's okay :)
May 03 10:40:11 <tommorris>	yeah it's good
May 03 10:40:36 <tommorris>	if you write a few more articles or do lots of copyediting work, you might want to apply for reviewer status
May 03 10:40:55 <tommorris>	we need more reviewers to do both post-publication tweaking using pending changes and to review new articles
May 03 10:41:25 <sonia>	hmm, I'll see how I go
May 03 10:41:35 <sonia>	WP and adminning simplewiki is enough for me :p
May 03 10:50:22 <Peter-C>	WE GOT HIM!
May 03 10:50:25 <Peter-C>	:D
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May 03 10:52:11 *	sonia hugs Peter-C
May 03 10:52:28 *	Peter-C glomps sonia
May 03 10:52:32 <Peter-C>	:D
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May 03 10:52:40 <sonia>	:)
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May 03 10:52:51 *	Peter-C eats one of sonia's legs
May 03 10:53:45 <sonia>	o_O
May 03 10:53:46 <Brian_S>	o:
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May 03 10:56:57 <Peter-C>	"Indonesia clerics condemn bin Laden sea burial" WHAT?!
May 03 10:57:12 <Peter-C>	Obama's country opposes his decision?!
May 03 10:57:17 *	Peter-C went there
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May 03 11:00:42 <sonia>	tommorris: do you know how articles are added to the main page thingy?
May 03 11:01:11 <tommorris>	sonia: yes, if you are a reviewer, once you've published something, you can click to promote it to a lead article
May 03 11:01:28 <sonia>	heh, the latest news sidebar I meant
May 03 11:01:33 <sonia>	as opposed to a lead :P
May 03 11:01:45 <tommorris>	oh, yes, you just click the little 'recycle' icon which just purges the template
May 03 11:01:54 <tommorris>	done it
May 03 11:02:21 <sonia>	wow, fancy
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May 03 11:02:28 *	sonia boggles at all the flash stuff
May 03 11:02:42 <tommorris>	six articles waiting for peer review? fuck
May 03 11:02:51 *	tommorris actually needs to do some work
May 03 11:03:06 *	sonia could copyedit :p
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May 03 11:15:34 <Qcoder00>	Any bot authors aroundd?
May 03 11:16:02 <Qcoder00>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Unused_templates - Ideally this backlog could be cleared with a bot that auto-generated TfD requests
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May 03 11:37:52 <Peter-C>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwwN05Kb3E0
May 03 11:37:53 <Peter-C>	:D
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May 03 11:45:29 <Peter-C>	RAGE
May 03 11:48:49 <gde33>	how is [[CONSPIRACY THEORIES]] not [[weasle wording]]?
May 03 11:49:19 <Peter-C>	'cause I said so :|
May 03 11:49:35 <gde33>	it is a term used to troll topics
May 03 11:50:16 <Peter-C>	Also because (I *think*) a "conspiracy theory" is just a story that goes against the offical story
May 03 11:50:31 <gde33>	it isn't even remotely professional and shouldn't be in any encyclopedia
May 03 11:50:35 <Peter-C>	I guess you could just change it to "theory"
May 03 11:50:50 <gde33>	or "conspiracy"
May 03 11:50:58 <gde33>	depending on the context
May 03 11:51:03 <Peter-C>	Do you edit Wikipedia?
May 03 11:51:24 <gde33>	oh you are going to replace the topic with profiling? Are you some one like that?
May 03 11:51:44 <gde33>	lol
May 03 11:51:53 <Peter-C>	No, I just wanted to know if you *edit* Wikipedia
May 03 11:52:13 <Peter-C>	The answer will help me guide you
May 03 11:52:15 <gde33>	if i'm familiar with all the guidlines? yes I am
May 03 11:52:20 <Peter-C>	BE bold
May 03 11:52:45 <gde33>	ignore all the rules
May 03 11:52:48 <Peter-C>	^
May 03 11:52:56 <Peter-C>	If you have an issue with it, fix it :D
May 03 11:53:25 <gde33>	it seems the trolls have infiltrated the edit guidlines so there is little point.
May 03 11:53:48 <gde33>	I'm refering to the elaborately forum shopping skeptic groups.
May 03 11:54:31 <Peter-C>	Hmm... Well I have to go now, I have to get to school :/
May 03 11:54:37 <gde33>	have fun ;)
May 03 11:54:45 <Peter-C>	Feel free to stick around ^_^
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May 03 12:19:20 <Anna_Frodesiak>	does anyone know the cookies template. I forget.
May 03 12:19:38 <Anna_Frodesiak>	Or kittens. Either or.
May 03 12:21:25 <Anna_Frodesiak>	monkeys?
May 03 12:21:26 <Theo10011>	{{subst:Cookie|message=''message''}} ?
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May 03 12:21:37 <Anna_Frodesiak>	ah thanks theo!
May 03 12:21:51 <Theo10011>	np.
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May 03 12:42:04 <Ironholds>	Peter-C, a quiz for you
May 03 12:42:12 <Ironholds>	two questions, lets see if you can get this right
May 03 12:42:20 <Ironholds>	anyone else can join in if they wish
May 03 12:42:37 <Ironholds>	1) if I carry expired rifle ammunition in my suitcase, will the TSA confiscate it?
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May 03 12:46:47 <Theo10011>	Depends if you're white.
May 03 12:47:17 <Ironholds>	wrong
May 03 12:47:30 <mabdul>	lol
May 03 12:47:31 <Ironholds>	I currently have a set of expired AR-15 rounds in London that are testament to them not giving a fuck
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May 03 12:47:37 <Ironholds>	they did, however, feel up my hair
May 03 12:47:43 <Theo10011>	holy shit.
May 03 12:47:46 <Ironholds>	searching for hidden compartments, I assume
May 03 12:47:48 <Ironholds>	I feel violated
May 03 12:47:56 <Theo10011>	you carried AR-15 rounds back from NY.
May 03 12:48:14 <Ironholds>	Theo10011: expired, honey :P
May 03 12:48:27 <Ironholds>	just expired rounds that probably coated my entire bag in GSR. And nobody. noticed.
May 03 12:48:28 <Theo10011>	I stand by my statement, you have to be white.
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May 03 12:50:05 <Theo10011>	WTF are you doing with expired AR-15 rounds in London, I thought UK had strict Gun and Ammunition control laws.
May 03 12:50:11 <Theo10011>	unlike the US.
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May 03 12:51:21 <Ironholds>	Theo10011: they do. You see my point about gross stupidity on the part of border control?
May 03 12:51:25 <Ironholds>	and again, expired. EXPIRED.
May 03 12:51:36 <Ironholds>	the only way I could hurt you with them is if I threw them really hard at your head
May 03 12:51:55 <foks>	Ironholds, it's because you're a British white male
May 03 12:51:58 <foks>	easy
May 03 12:52:26 <foks>	Why would a British white student take arms into his own country(?)
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May 03 12:52:32 <foks>	But yes, stupidity
May 03 12:52:35 <Ironholds>	foks: what, they think I'll go "unhand my musketballs, you brigand!" and beat them with an ivory cane?
May 03 12:52:44 <Ironholds>	foks: read what you just said again
May 03 12:52:50 <Ironholds>	about British students wanting guns
May 03 12:52:52 <Ironholds>	then headdesk
May 03 12:52:57 <Ironholds>	:P
May 03 12:53:14 <foks>	Read the (?) at the end, indicating sarcasm
May 03 12:53:23 <Ironholds>	ooh, that's what it indicates? Fail.
May 03 12:53:27 <foks>	:P
May 03 12:53:43 <foks>	<3
May 03 12:53:45 *	Ironholds snorts, having had an amusing mental image
May 03 12:53:50 <Ironholds>	"what's the purpose of your visit?"
May 03 12:54:01 <Ironholds>	"I want to buy some guns so I can SHOOT UP THE DEFICIT-SUCKING GOVERNMENT"
May 03 12:54:07 <Ironholds>	"..welcome to America, son"
May 03 12:54:09 <foks>	:D
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May 03 12:56:40 <Ironholds>	foks: also, http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=9294138184493326603&q=osama+bin+laden+near+abbottabad&hl=en&view=feature&mcsrc=google_reviews&num=10&start=0&ie=UTF8&ll=34.189117,73.238377&spn=0,0&t=h&z=18
May 03 12:56:42 <Ironholds>	look at the reviews
May 03 12:57:03 <foks>	ahahah!
May 03 12:57:35 <foks>	trolling at its finest
May 03 12:57:35 <Ironholds>	the internet is so wonderful sometimes
May 03 12:57:49 <Ironholds>	"We were very surprised to see that they were just plain rude to us. They did not like westerners and were visibly upset when we landed our choppers"
May 03 12:57:58 <foks>	Wait, they did what to your hair?
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May 03 12:58:36 <Ironholds>	they molested it
May 03 12:58:43 <Ironholds>	well, they shoved their hands inside it
May 03 12:58:51 <Ironholds>	presumably to check I wasn't using it to smuggle stuff
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May 03 12:58:55 <Ironholds>	it was bloody weird.
May 03 12:59:01 <foks>	...like what
May 03 12:59:10 <foks>	Granted I don't know how long your hair is now
May 03 12:59:46 <Ironholds>	I don't know
May 03 12:59:50 <Ironholds>	expired AR-15 ammo, maybe
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May 03 13:02:02 <foks>	heh
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May 03 13:12:05 <gde33>	I was wondering how is [[CONSPIRACY THEORIES]] not [[weasle wording]]?
May 03 13:12:25 <gde33>	have the cake and eat it to?
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May 03 13:23:52 <AzaToth>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden#RENAME_ARTICLE:_Martyrdom_of_Osama_Bin_Laden ← LOL
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May 03 13:24:10 <Herodotus>	Cute.
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May 03 13:24:36 <Herodotus>	"Many of the new members of Parliament from the New Democrats in Quebec are little known and inexperienced and, in some cases, did not even campaign. Several of them are university students." The Tea Party should have adopted this strategy instead of race-baiting the Mexicans and... whatever Christine O'Donnell's "I'm not a witch" ad was.
May 03 13:25:08 <AzaToth>	Ironholds: "Beautiful view! Awesome life like firefight performance in the middle of the night, very realistic! Drawbacks include the smell of burning garbage, no phone, no internet, no booze on the room service menu and no sausage or bacon on the breakfast buffet. Amenities include a private helipad, gun range, and 18 foot security walls to keep you safe from the infidels! Room discounted if there are massive blood stains! " ツ
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May 03 13:26:23 <foks>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fox&diff=cur#interview_request
May 03 13:26:26 <foks>	DDDDD:
May 03 13:27:14 <Fluffernutter>	ooo, the girls all want 9to study) you
May 03 13:27:50 <foks>	:P
May 03 13:29:02 <foks>	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13269677
May 03 13:29:04 <foks>	HAH
May 03 13:29:07 <foks>	IN YR FACE
May 03 13:29:22 <foks>	Ah, Chris Huhne.
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May 03 13:40:14 <Herodotus>	foks: Proportional makes more sense.
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May 03 13:41:29 <Herodotus>	<snerk> Proportional representation is how Hitler got elected.
May 03 13:41:53 <AzaToth>	Headbomb: godwin
May 03 13:41:57 <AzaToth>	Herodotus: *
May 03 13:42:00 <AzaToth>	blody tab
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May 03 13:53:01 *	Fluffernutter is catching up on the noticeboards...did BasketofPuppies really, REALLY stomp his foot and tell Casliber to stop being such a dramahwhore?
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May 03 13:54:33 <Ironholds>	Fluffernutter: and Bahamut fully protected an article he had been edit-warring over to stop a single user reverting things based on legal issues
May 03 13:54:55 *	Fluffernutter smirks
May 03 13:55:33 <Fluffernutter>	i can
May 03 13:55:43 <Fluffernutter>	t wait for BoP's next flameout
May 03 13:55:51 <Fluffernutter>	they're always so interesting
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May 03 14:45:23 <ZT>	I think that we should impose a system similar to DYK on AFD. If someone wants to start an AfD, he should provide to feedback to at least one AfD with no comments. What do you think?
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May 03 15:25:11 <Logan_>	Hey Ironholds.
May 03 15:25:31 <gde33>	I had an interesting idea for AFD.
May 03 15:26:26 <gde33>	when the article is nominated for deletion it is moved (including history) to one of the KEEP voters user space. Then a link is provided on the deleted page.
May 03 15:26:50 <gde33>	While the article futher matures users can add additonal deletion votes.
May 03 15:27:09 <Fluffernutter>	voting keep doesn't require the voter to take responsibility for the article
May 03 15:27:15 <Fluffernutter>	and i don't really think it should
May 03 15:27:32 <gde33>	We shoulddn't make the article inaccessible.
May 03 15:27:48 <Fluffernutter>	it's not inaccessible while it's being AfD'd
May 03 15:27:49 <gde33>	this makes it way to easy to just delete articles for nonsensical reasons
May 03 15:28:10 <Fluffernutter>	after an AfD closes as delete, it will be inaccessible. But not while the voting is going on.
May 03 15:28:24 <gde33>	It may be moved to a userspace right?
May 03 15:28:46 <gde33>	this should include the edit history so that more than just the mutilated deleted version is kept
May 03 15:28:59 <gde33>	then potential editors should be able to find the article.
May 03 15:29:06 <Fluffernutter>	i don't think i understand what you mean
May 03 15:29:09 <gde33>	unless it is total nonsense ofc
May 03 15:29:13 <Fluffernutter>	"mutilated deleted version"?
May 03 15:29:18 <gde33>	then it may still be deleted from the userspace
May 03 15:29:42 <gde33>	yes, oldest trick in the book. Before nominating an article for deletion you first delete most of it's content.
May 03 15:29:44 <Fluffernutter>	so wait, you are arguing that instead of articles being deleted, they should just be moved out of mainspace?
May 03 15:30:06 <gde33>	if the topic allows for this yes
May 03 15:30:17 <Fluffernutter>	that's a pretty big proposal to make
May 03 15:30:25 <gde33>	secrecy is nonsense
May 03 15:30:42 <Fumika>	If that happens, someone should request it moved to their userspace, not just have it be forced into it because they nom it.
May 03 15:30:48 <gde33>	trolls can sucessfully cover all their wrongdoings in the current system while the content is lost!
May 03 15:31:04 <Fluffernutter>	i mean, generally if you userify an article that's problematic, you're expected to, you know, fix it. Just userifying it to keep it from being deleted, however, is going to not go over very well
May 03 15:31:05 <gde33>	I'm not saying it should be forced, it should be the default decision
May 03 15:31:17 <gde33>	if you vote KEEP then you should feel some obligation to actually finish it
May 03 15:31:23 <Fluffernutter>	yeah that's not the case
May 03 15:31:37 <Fluffernutter>	if you vote KEEP, you are saying that you think the article meets our policies/guidelines
May 03 15:31:46 <Fluffernutter>	not that you are volunteering to work on it
May 03 15:31:54 <gde33>	yes, but others want to get rid of it
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May 03 15:32:06 <Fumika>	Because they feel is doesn't comply with policy
May 03 15:32:16 <gde33>	it shouldn't require effort to preserve the content
May 03 15:32:19 <Fumika>	If it just had issues they'd template spam it.
May 03 15:32:49 <gde33>	Fumika: most of the votes have nothing to do with the policy, there are utterly idiotic AFD's
May 03 15:33:09 <Fluffernutter>	so it sounds like you just have a bone to pick with how AfD functions
May 03 15:33:27 <gde33>	ehhhh it doesn't just sound that way. The AFD system doesn't work.
May 03 15:33:33 <gde33>	We can do better
May 03 15:34:03 <Fluffernutter>	yeah, but you can't step into an already-running process and start assigning people jobs they have no obligation to do
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May 03 15:34:14 <gde33>	The part where successfull trolling is complemented by deleting the evidence is not constructive
May 03 15:34:24 <Fluffernutter>	who's trolling?
May 03 15:34:45 <Fumika>	And the evidence is still visible to users with the appropriate rights.
May 03 15:34:56 <gde33>	right, but they have better things to do
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May 03 15:35:29 <Headbomb>	we need to have some regex filters or something
May 03 15:35:30 <Fluffernutter>	gde33, who is it that you believe is trolling in the way AfD currently works?
May 03 15:35:39 <closedmouth>	:)
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May 03 15:36:07 <gde33>	tempting but I'm not going to give examples. I blame the AFD process for facilitating this behavior.
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May 03 15:36:34 <oona>	"off topic" :D
May 03 15:36:35 <Fluffernutter>	no, i don't mean names, gde33. I just mean that it sounds like you're extremely unhappy with one side of the keep/delete divide, but i can't figure out which it is
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May 03 15:36:36 <gde33>	It allows users who have nothing constructive to contribute to stalk and troll productive editors.
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May 03 15:36:39 <Despatche>	I like how he pings himself
May 03 15:36:39 <closedmouth>	thanks
May 03 15:36:45 <oona>	that's kind of an understatement
May 03 15:37:45 <Lara>	What's with the spam of the bullshit message?
May 03 15:38:00 <Fluffernutter>	been going on for months, Lara
May 03 15:38:01 <Fumika>	I guess someone wanted to spam.
May 03 15:38:04 <Lara>	Ah.
May 03 15:38:20 <Lara>	I blissfully avoided it by not idling in here.
May 03 15:38:46 <Lara>	So many wastes of carbon, dude.
May 03 15:38:48 <Lara>	So many.
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May 03 15:39:04 <Lara>	Hot.
May 03 15:39:04 <gde33>	if you really need an example, lets take the skeptic groups who elaboratly forum shop in order to erradicate everything they don't like.
May 03 15:39:48 <gde33>	truth is not a rule for inclusion but AFD has you believe otherwise
May 03 15:39:58 <Fluffernutter>	so you feel things are being deleted that ought not to be? (as opposed to feeling that too many people are voting keep without reason, which is what it initially sounded like you thought)
May 03 15:40:19 <gde33>	yes, and I don't have to provide examples because the artiles are not visible to me.
May 03 15:40:40 <closedmouth>	oh, how convenient
May 03 15:40:57 <gde33>	lol, NO that is the only problem I have with the process
May 03 15:41:11 <Fluffernutter>	gde33, you can often ask an admin to userify a deleted article for you if you want to continue to work on it
May 03 15:42:02 <gde33>	yes, but the deletionists start by deleting paragraphs and questioning everything added while reverting it in a kind of fake consensus.
May 03 15:42:28 <gde33>	the userfy article doesn't contain the article history.
May 03 15:42:58 <gde33>	At least I havent seen one like that
May 03 15:43:25 <Fluffernutter>	hm. i don't know about the technical limitations. i would have assumed that userification preserves page history
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May 03 15:43:50 <gde33>	That was my idea ;)
May 03 15:43:55 <matthewrbowker>	Fluffernutter: Yes, as it is a restore and then a move, I think.
May 03 15:44:07 <gde33>	it could be done I'm sure
May 03 15:44:08 <Fluffernutter>	yeah, that makes sense matthewrbowker
May 03 15:44:31 <gde33>	but then you don't have the red link with the "this article was deleted bla bla"?
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May 03 15:45:06 <Qcoder00>	Anyone care to check {{UK-LEG}} for me ?
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May 03 15:45:17 <Qcoder00>	I think it now covers most of the intended usages
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May 03 15:52:40 <Ironholds>	Delta: ears burning?
May 03 15:52:48 <Ironholds>	;p
May 03 15:52:51 <Fluffernutter>	heh
May 03 15:54:06 <Delta>	Ironholds: getting sick of the idiots
May 03 15:54:56 <Ironholds>	Delta: he's a particularly headdesky case, yes
May 03 15:54:58 <Ironholds>	hence the ANI thread
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May 03 15:58:06 <Fluffernutter>	there seems to be an epidemic of IDHT lately
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May 03 15:58:36 <Ironholds>	IDHT?
May 03 15:58:43 <Fluffernutter>	I didn't hear that
May 03 15:58:44 <matthewrbowker>	I didn't hear that.
May 03 15:59:09 <Ironholds>	pardon?
May 03 15:59:25 *	Fluffernutter laughs
May 03 15:59:26 <matthewrbowker>	http://enwp.org/WP:IDHT
May 03 15:59:53 <matthewrbowker>	damnit lag...
May 03 15:59:54 <Fluffernutter>	I was saying that there is an epidemic of editors very determinedly "not hearing" when others tell them they're being utter wankstains
May 03 16:01:49 <Qcoder00>	Admin please
May 03 16:02:11 <Qcoder00>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Db-c1 - BOLD Edit, but it needs reformatting
May 03 16:02:36 <Tatsujin>	http://rt.com/news/wikileaks-revelations-assange-interview/
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May 03 16:03:36 <Qcoder00>	I'm suprised the UK authorities let Assange talk to RT , given that at times it sounds like the modern day Radio Moscow...
May 03 16:03:39 <Qcoder00>	:(
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May 03 16:06:01 <BarkingFish>	afternoon guys. Are oversighters assigned by project, or can an oversighter oversight anything anywhere?
May 03 16:06:37 <Theo10011>	by project as far as I know.
May 03 16:06:46 <Theo10011>	Stewards can oversight any project.
May 03 16:06:47 <BarkingFish>	damn
May 03 16:06:51 <Qcoder00>	Aren't there some Global oversighters?
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May 03 16:07:09 <Prodego>	they are called stewards
May 03 16:07:12 <Qcoder00>	what's the problem BarkingFish
May 03 16:07:13 <Theo10011>	Global sysops and rollbackers are the most common.
May 03 16:07:29 <BarkingFish>	I need to raise one, we've had someone leave some personal info on one of the sites I'm on and don't know whether we have any oversighters attached.
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May 03 16:07:45 <PM|AFK>	Stewards can't oversight on projects which have local oses
May 03 16:07:52 <Prodego>	if you go to Special:ListUsers
May 03 16:07:55 <Prodego>	it will tell you
May 03 16:07:58 <BarkingFish>	ok
May 03 16:08:00 <Prodego>	PM|AFK: it depends what, actually
May 03 16:08:19 <Prodego>	but generally they shouldn't be
May 03 16:09:17 <Delta>	Prodego: why do I always attract the crazies?
May 03 16:09:57 <Prodego>	Delta: probably because people the image guidelines are overly restrictive and that's annoying
May 03 16:10:03 <BarkingFish>	we do have local OS, 3 of them. Whether they're on or not is a different matter :)
May 03 16:10:14 <Qcoder00>	Hi Delta
May 03 16:10:29 <PM|AFK>	Mailing them would be a good idea
May 03 16:10:30 <Qcoder00>	Delta: Are you allowed to seek BAG approval at the moment?
May 03 16:10:34 <Theo10011>	BarkingFish mail them.
May 03 16:10:49 <Theo10011>	if it's an urgent matter, stewards can prob. help.
May 03 16:10:50 <Delta>	Qcoder00: what do you mean?
May 03 16:10:57 <Qcoder00>	Delta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Empty_categories - Could be quickly cleared by a bot
May 03 16:11:33 <Delta>	Qcoder00: bots shouldnt blindly tag those
May 03 16:11:34 <Qcoder00>	Given your previous history with bots I felt it was only fair to check if you still under mentoring
May 03 16:11:43 <Delta>	Qcoder00: some are empty on purpose
May 03 16:11:50 <Qcoder00>	Treu
May 03 16:12:00 <Qcoder00>	And I suspect in mnually tagging, some might get contested
May 03 16:12:32 <Qcoder00>	Hmm
May 03 16:12:42 <Delta>	Qcoder00: I dont have time for that but someone in #wikipedia-bag should be able to give you a hand if you still think its a good idea
May 03 16:12:51 <Qcoder00>	See my recent edit to the C1-CSD template
May 03 16:13:13 <Qcoder00>	I made a bold edit that says if you find it on a category to consider 'populating' the cateogry and removing it
May 03 16:14:06 <Tatsujin>	Qcoder00: RT is good for everything that doesn't have to do with russian internal affairs, for that you'll have to stick to other sources ;)
May 03 16:14:18 <Tatsujin>	I think RT is trying to clone Al Jazeera
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May 03 16:15:30 <Qcoder00>	Fluffernutter:  Hi
May 03 16:15:35 <Fluffernutter>	hi
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May 03 17:05:28 <mihaifireball>	DARTHSIDIOUS2 ?
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May 03 17:05:57 <LauraHale>	Is that derp?
May 03 17:06:10 <Fluffernutter>	don't think so
May 03 17:07:13 <LauraHale>	The name sounds tasty... like dark tasty chocolate.
May 03 17:07:14 *	LauraHale nom noms
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May 03 17:08:11 <ZT>	dark chocolate is never tasty ;/
May 03 17:08:44 <KFP>	LauraHale: [[Darth Sidious]]...
May 03 17:09:06 <LauraHale>	I love dark chocolate.  Not a fan of milk.
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May 03 17:15:48 <Lara>	Delta: You alright?
May 03 17:16:03 <Delta>	Lara: Im fine, laughing my ass off
May 03 17:16:07 <Lara>	Good.
May 03 17:16:09 <ZT>	[[Amphetamines and Friendly Fire Incidents]] wouldn't that be better if it was renamed to Drug use in the US military?
May 03 17:16:47 <Lara>	Delta: No more edit-warring, you. And talk page messages!
May 03 17:16:47 <Delta>	Lara: I new this guy didnt know NFC but Im shocked at his behavior now
May 03 17:16:59 <Delta>	Lara: those dont work
May 03 17:17:07 <Lara>	I was surprised he's already been educated by BlackKite.
May 03 17:17:17 <Lara>	But they cover your ass!
May 03 17:17:34 <Lara>	"Hey, I posted a message explaining why they were removed." Oh, so you did.... well then. <-- that's how it should go.
May 03 17:18:05 <Lara>	That way they can't bitch that you removed images without discussion.
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May 03 17:18:52 <methecooldude>	!link
May 03 17:19:09 <Lara>	Link to what?
May 03 17:19:19 <ZT>	everything!
May 03 17:19:22 <methecooldude>	Wrong channel :P
May 03 17:19:39 <Delta>	Lara: see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Banknotes_of_the_New_Zealand_dollar and its talk page
May 03 17:20:04 <Delta>	note was left about removal on april 21st
May 03 17:20:20 <Lara>	Lots of tables, single image. That needs to be fixed.
May 03 17:20:20 <Delta>	Still not a comment even after the edit war
May 03 17:20:30 <Delta>	Lara: its been fixed
May 03 17:20:38 <Delta>	in regards to NFC
May 03 17:20:43 <Lara>	No, I mean those columns need to go.
May 03 17:20:52 <Lara>	But yea, see. Talk message thus asses covered.
May 03 17:21:20 <Delta>	and that did nothing
May 03 17:21:57 <Lara>	The images are still removed.
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May 03 17:23:29 <Lara>	The point is, if people want to fight, you have that to point to.
May 03 17:23:49 <Lara>	If they want to call you for edit-warring, you have "I am exempt as your edits violate policy, as explained on the talk page."
May 03 17:24:04 <Delta>	Lara: well Im off to eat see you in a bit
May 03 17:24:10 <Lara>	Otherwise they can claim ignorance and then drama ensues. Wastes time.
May 03 17:24:11 <Lara>	k
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May 03 18:07:09 <AzaToth>	fyi, here is the script I made to convert inline define references to list defined references on [[Death of Osama bin Laden]]: https://gist.github.com/ec7220609b5449cc4023
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May 03 18:07:58 <Logan_>	AzaToth: I think that already exists
May 03 18:08:19 <Qcoder00>	Experienced contributor requested
May 03 18:08:21 <AzaToth>	Logan_: havn't found any
May 03 18:08:28 <Logan_>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyde/Ref_converter
May 03 18:08:35 <Logan_>	is that different?
May 03 18:08:38 <Qcoder00>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unforgiving_Tour is showing up in a template catagory
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May 03 18:08:49 <Qcoder00>	But the relevant part of the template is tagged noinclude
May 03 18:08:53 <AzaToth>	Logan_: that's not the same thing
May 03 18:09:07 *	Douche huggles AzaToth 
May 03 18:09:17 <AzaToth>	Logan_: unless that one also moves <ref/>:s into <references/>
May 03 18:09:32 <Logan_>	Qcoder00: fixed
May 03 18:09:37 <AzaToth>	using LDR makes the wikitext soo much easier to actually read
May 03 18:09:42 <Qcoder00>	Logan_: How?
May 03 18:09:48 <Logan_>	Qcoder00: the category was on the page :P
May 03 18:10:07 <Logan_>	plus, that navbox shouldn't be substed
May 03 18:10:10 <Qcoder00>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Template_categories_containing_articles BTW
May 03 18:10:31 <AzaToth>	Logan_: you understand?
May 03 18:10:36 <Logan_>	AzaToth: yes
May 03 18:10:41 <AzaToth>	[[WP:LDR]]
May 03 18:11:04 <AzaToth>	which imo should be guildeline to use always instead of IDR
May 03 18:11:29 <AzaToth>	IDR makes tagsoup
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May 03 18:11:38 <AzaToth>	Logan_: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden&diff=427261585&oldid=427261402
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May 03 18:12:25 <Logan_>	AzaToth: maybe VP to make it the officially recommended format?
May 03 18:12:36 <AzaToth>	I've thought about that
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May 03 18:15:56 <Kingpin13>	Huh? There's a bot request at VP to get a bot to change references to use names, btw.... I think, anyway
May 03 18:17:23 <AzaToth>	Kingpin13: ah
May 03 18:17:30 <AzaToth>	linky?
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May 03 18:18:22 <Kingpin13>	somewhere... I'll see if I can find it, maybe it was in an archive
May 03 18:18:33 <AzaToth>	ok
May 03 18:19:19 <Kingpin13>	Ah, I'm thinking of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Bot_to_reduce_duplicate_references but maybe that's slightly different from what you were talking about
May 03 18:19:40 <AzaToth>	*slightly* ツ
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May 03 18:20:47 <AzaToth>	Kingpin13: I'm talking about to not define the content of the references inline, i.e. where the reference is made, but instead define it in <references/>, which results in highlt more readable wikitext when there are many references
May 03 18:21:17 <AzaToth>	Kingpin13: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(footnotes)#List-defined_references
May 03 18:21:44 <Kingpin13>	Uh huh, weird, I always thought you couldn't use a named reference before it was defined in the wiki-text
May 03 18:21:56 <AzaToth>	now in MOS, LDR are under "Advanced", imo, it should be prefered
May 03 18:22:04 <AzaToth>	Kingpin13: LDR was introduced 2009 :-P
May 03 18:22:14 <Kingpin13>	ah, maybe that's why :D
May 03 18:22:19 <AzaToth>	"As of September 2009, references may be defined within <references> </references> markup or with {{reflist}} using |refs= and invoked within the content. This can help separate large reftags with long cite entries from the ordinary text, making it easier to read and to edit."
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May 03 18:22:57 <Kingpin13>	looks pretty neat, but good luck getting the rest of the community to agree ;)
May 03 18:23:09 <AzaToth>	Kingpin13: why would they disagree?
May 03 18:23:14 <AzaToth>	they like tagsoup?
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May 03 18:26:13 <AzaToth>	Kingpin13: ever tried to edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barack_Obama&action=edit&section=2 ? ツ
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May 03 18:27:40 <Fae>	Note, open discussion with the WM-UK board is running on #wikimedia-uk until 7pm BST :)
May 03 18:28:21 <Qcoder00>	Any admins around?
May 03 18:28:38 <Qcoder00>	I'd like a user blocked from sending junk mail via Wikipedia.
May 03 18:29:41 *	geniice has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
May 03 18:30:17 <Qcoder00>	[[User:Cooldenny]]'s just sent me something that  looks like junk mail - but could be a genuine survey
May 03 18:30:56 <Qcoder00>	The e-mail asks me to go to an off-wiki survey on Google docs...
May 03 18:31:04 <Qcoder00>	which I feel is bit suspect?
May 03 18:32:01 <Qcoder00>	Any admins care to comment?
May 03 18:32:29 <Kingpin13>	"ugh, not this again"
May 03 18:32:31 <Kingpin13>	you can quote me on that =p
May 03 18:32:41 <Thehelpfulone>	Qcoder00: look at thie guy's talk page
May 03 18:32:44 <Thehelpfulone>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cooldenny#Has_survey_spam_been_approved_by_the_community.3F
May 03 18:32:47 <Thehelpfulone>	etc
May 03 18:32:59 <Qcoder00>	OK
May 03 18:33:28 <ZT>	also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Invitation_to_a_Survey_for_a_Study_on_Motivation_to_Contribute_to_Wikipedia
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May 03 18:34:06 <Qcoder00>	Unless I get a clear , Yeah it's approaved , I'll be contacting the listed university to complain
May 03 18:34:33 <Theo10011>	Just ignore.
May 03 18:34:54 <Qcoder00>	I do NOT ignore spammers
May 03 18:35:09 <Theo10011>	I saw he was asking vandals to take part in the research.
May 03 18:35:09 <Qcoder00>	I make sure they feel the consequences of thier actions :)
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May 03 18:35:54 <Qcoder00>	At ther very least they should be blocked from sending out more junk
May 03 18:35:57 <Qcoder00>	*the
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May 03 18:37:19 <Theo10011>	oh noes, look out ED pills and penis-enlargement device marketers.
May 03 18:37:40 <Theo10011>	Qcoder00 will make you feel the consequences.
May 03 18:38:02 <Qcoder00>	Theo10011:   I've got spammers shut down before  :O
May 03 18:39:04 <Theo10011>	heh, more power to you, it's considerably more attention than I would be willing to give to it.
May 03 18:39:19 <Theo10011>	BTW
May 03 18:39:21 <Theo10011>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research/Projects/Motivation_to_Contribute_to_Wikipedia,_a_Collective_Work
May 03 18:39:37 <Theo10011>	that page^ directs to a google survey too, is that the link you got?
May 03 18:40:01 <Qcoder00>	I don't click suspect links
May 03 18:40:19 <Theo10011>	heh
May 03 18:40:45 <Qcoder00>	If they want to do a surevey there are  MediaWiki extensions that allow for secure voting/questionaires
May 03 18:41:01 <Fluffernutter>	the horrid english doesn't really help them look legit
May 03 18:41:02 <Qcoder00>	(Like got used for the license change poll?)
May 03 18:41:57 <Qcoder00>	Fluffernutter : At least it's not '  I <> former sysop at Nigeran Wikipedia need your assistance...'  XD
May 03 18:42:05 <Fluffernutter>	heh
May 03 18:44:00 <Qcoder00>	Or an add for  Pupae porn... ;)
May 03 18:44:31 <Qcoder00>	(Commons has some image of insect pupae IIRC... )
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May 03 18:45:33 <Qcoder00>	I mean some people have enough confusion without havign to see insects 'in transition'  XD
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May 03 18:46:40 *	Fluffernutter sighs
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May 03 18:47:30 <Theo10011>	Fluffernutter the listed email address on the meta page links to a .kr provider, that might explain the horrid english.
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May 03 18:51:32 <Qcoder00>	Fluffernutter: I can't make intelligent jokes here?
May 03 18:51:35 <Fluffernutter>	huh?
May 03 18:51:56 <Qcoder00>	Ypu sighed?
May 03 18:52:10 <Qcoder00>	maybe I'm paranoid expecting an inquistion to show up every time.....
May 03 18:52:25 *	Qcoder00 waits
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May 03 18:52:55 <Fluffernutter>	oh, i wasn't sighing at you
May 03 18:53:00 <Fluffernutter>	it was a general "fml" sigh
May 03 18:53:00 <Qcoder00>	That's ok
May 03 18:53:05 <Qcoder00>	fml?
May 03 18:53:14 <Fluffernutter>	"fuck my life"
May 03 18:53:30 <Qcoder00>	Ah
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May 03 18:54:12 <Qcoder00>	Another funny I heard.. On other networks  'female' users will get harrased for ASL and stats....
May 03 18:57:51 <Qcoder00>	here on freenode , people don't ask for ASL,   they ask for Compiler /IDE/ Distro instaed... and the stats are usally figures for compilining speed....
May 03 18:57:52 <Qcoder00>	*compiling
May 03 18:57:54 <Qcoder00>	I mean typists talk about 40wpm  which means something quite different on freenode ;)
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May 03 18:57:55 <Qcoder00>	40 words (per millisecond) if the compiler is good ;)
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May 03 18:59:55 <Fenix2>	g'morning
May 03 18:59:55 <Qcoder00>	It's afternoon here
May 03 18:59:55 <Fenix2>	it's morning somewhere
May 03 18:59:59 <Fenix2>	like in Hawaii
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May 03 19:02:02 <geniice>	hmm I wounder what wikipedia's growth speed is in words per second
May 03 19:02:33 <geniice>	meanwhile http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Size_in_volumes is comming along well
May 03 19:02:43 <Qcoder00>	It was once claimed in the internet age that you had a new document published every 8 mins
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May 03 19:03:54 <geniice>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewPages
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May 03 19:07:30 <guillom>	err, someone want to look at that? I don't think an role in *one* episode of Star Trek warrants a link to Memory Alpha, but I don't have time to follow-up on the edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeffrey_Dean_Morgan&curid=4998900&diff=427269292&oldid=426741780
May 03 19:07:37 <guillom>	a role*
May 03 19:07:39 <AzaToth>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Inline_defined_references_versus_list_defined_references ← posted now ツ
May 03 19:07:59 <guillom>	And there's quite a bit of them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cbbkr
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May 03 19:19:34 *	derp huggles Hedgehog456 tightly.
May 03 19:19:41 *	Hedgehog456 huggles derp tightly
May 03 19:19:59 *	Dragonfly6-7 pokes at Hedgehog456 with a sharp stick.
May 03 19:20:01 <Hedgehog456>	I was.... away
May 03 19:20:14 <Hedgehog456>	For two reasons
May 03 19:20:15 <derp>	:o
May 03 19:20:21 <derp>	pooping and shitting?
May 03 19:20:30 <Hedgehog456>	1) Writing an article and 2) Getting distracted by a forum somewhere
May 03 19:21:35 <Hedgehog456>	Mostly 2
May 03 19:21:57 *	Hedgehog456 waits a few seconds before recoiling from Dragonfly6-7's stick
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May 03 19:22:39 *	Fluffernutter throws a cat at Dragonfly6-7
May 03 19:22:51 *	derp throws a fluffy kitteh at Fluffernutter
May 03 19:23:03 *	Fluffernutter sneezes on the kitty
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May 03 19:23:34 *	derp hands Fluffernutter a hypoallergenic cat to Fluffernutter
May 03 19:23:40 *	Fluffernutter pets kitteh
May 03 19:23:45 *	Dragonfly6-7 is encatted
May 03 19:23:52 <Dragonfly6-7>	for real
May 03 19:24:11 <Hedgehog456>	what does that mean again?
May 03 19:24:51 <Dragonfly6-7>	to be encatted?
May 03 19:25:10 <Fluffernutter>	keep kitteh on lap, not on keyboard
May 03 19:25:16 <Hedgehog456>	yes
May 03 19:25:21 <Dragonfly6-7>	Hedgehog456 - what do think it means?
May 03 19:25:25 <Dragonfly6-7>	compare 'encrusted'
May 03 19:25:25 <Hedgehog456>	has a cat?
May 03 19:25:35 <Fluffernutter>	it means he has a cat and is currently wearing it
May 03 19:25:36 <Dragonfly6-7>	not just 'has' a cat
May 03 19:25:36 <Hedgehog456>	is covered in cat?
May 03 19:25:37 <Dragonfly6-7>	yes
May 03 19:25:46 <derp>	Fluffernutter, you allergic to kitteh?
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May 03 19:26:09 <Hedgehog456>	I <3 my puppeh
May 03 19:26:55 <Hedgehog456>	She is cute
May 03 19:27:02 <Fluffernutter>	derp, yeah. I'm allergic to just about everything except dogs
May 03 19:27:15 <KFP>	Hedgehog456: Don't tell me you wrote an article about your puppy?
May 03 19:27:18 <Hedgehog456>	I'm allergic to pollen
May 03 19:27:22 <Hedgehog456>	KFP: No
May 03 19:27:29 <Hedgehog456>	The article is nowhere near finished
May 03 19:27:34 <Fluffernutter>	...
May 03 19:27:41 <Hedgehog456>	And it's not about my puppeh :P
May 03 19:27:46 <TBloemink>	no new votes for my gr request. meh.
May 03 19:27:51 *	derp used to be allergic until the doctor found out the right cocktail for me.
May 03 19:27:54 <Hedgehog456>	TBloemink: link
May 03 19:27:56 <TBloemink>	wanna bet it's about your puppeh Hedgehog456
May 03 19:28:08 <Hedgehog456>	derp: Molotov cocktail?
May 03 19:28:11 <TBloemink>	[[m:Steward requests/Global permissions]] I guess
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May 03 19:28:45 <Hedgehog456>	TBloemink: okay. if it's about my puppeh, i work, clearing both the reward board and bounty board. if it's not, you do it.
May 03 19:28:55 <TBloemink>	no thanks :P
May 03 19:29:06 <Hedgehog456>	you get rewards :P
May 03 19:29:06 <TBloemink>	its not about your puppeh anymore
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May 03 19:29:23 <Hedgehog456>	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:DogInKitchen.JPG
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May 03 19:29:29 <Hedgehog456>	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:DoginKitchen002.JPG
May 03 19:29:36 <Hedgehog456>	You must squee
May 03 19:29:47 <Fluffernutter>	i am still finding it hard to believe she doesn't have any corgi in her
May 03 19:29:48 <TBloemink>	cool puppeh
May 03 19:30:05 <Hedgehog456>	Fluffernutter: both her parents were pure JRTs
May 03 19:30:20 <Hedgehog456>	TBloemink: I'll deliver your compliment to her :D
May 03 19:30:33 <TBloemink>	in what form?
May 03 19:30:42 <LauraHale>	Fluffernutter: I might be able to leave New Zealand today!
May 03 19:30:45 <TBloemink>	some dog food?
May 03 19:30:48 <Fluffernutter>	yay LauraHale!
May 03 19:30:52 *	LauraHale huggles Qantas and watch the board for her gate
May 03 19:30:57 <Hedgehog456>	" TBloemink oogawooga eee-weee gave ooga you ooohh youcutepuppeh a compliment squeee oosagoodgirl "
May 03 19:31:01 <Fluffernutter>	haha
May 03 19:31:08 <derp>	Hedgehog456, medications
May 03 19:31:11 <TBloemink>	LauraHale: you're flying Qantas? What type of plane?
May 03 19:31:17 <derp>	i take 3 different medications in the summer.
May 03 19:31:27 <Hedgehog456>	derp: To pollen?
May 03 19:31:36 <LauraHale>	TBloemink: Don't know.  Aereolineas Argentinas put us on this
May 03 19:31:46 <LauraHale>	Never flying them again
May 03 19:31:54 <TBloemink>	oh wait, from NZ to Sydney is probably a 737 with personal screens exact the same on the A380
May 03 19:31:55 <TBloemink>	those are coowl
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May 03 19:32:00 <derp>	Hedgehog456, ragweed
May 03 19:32:03 <TBloemink>	or an a330
May 03 19:32:07 <TBloemink>	depends on your flight
May 03 19:32:10 <Hedgehog456>	derp: What's that?
May 03 19:32:28 <Hedgehog456>	oh
May 03 19:32:28 <derp>	a bad herb
May 03 19:32:30 <Hedgehog456>	a plant
May 03 19:32:59 <derp>	Each plant is reputed to be able to produce about a billion grains of pollen over a season
May 03 19:33:12 *	LauraHale is flying from Auckland to Sydney
May 03 19:33:12 <Hedgehog456>	derp: Hmm have you tried antihistamine pills?
May 03 19:33:16 <TBloemink>	LauraHale: I can check, but it depends on the destination, Sydney or Melbourne
May 03 19:33:18 <TBloemink>	ah
May 03 19:33:31 <LauraHale>	8am flight
May 03 19:33:33 <TBloemink>	an argentinas flight was cancelled today
May 03 19:33:43 <TBloemink>	tomorrow?
May 03 19:33:43 <LauraHale>	This was last night.
May 03 19:33:49 <derp>	Hedgehog456, that's what i'm onj
May 03 19:33:55 <TBloemink>	oh wait
May 03 19:33:56 <Hedgehog456>	three types?
May 03 19:33:56 <derp>	pescription grade reactine.
May 03 19:34:00 <Fenix2>	Hedgehog456: I used to be allergic to pollen
May 03 19:34:03 <Hedgehog456>	i only take ASDA ones
May 03 19:34:12 <Hedgehog456>	Fenix2: what cured you?
May 03 19:34:15 <LauraHale>	Flight for AR was canceled yesterday morning.  Either the toilet was broken or there were securitty issues.  AR was awful communication wise.
May 03 19:34:21 *	derp hugs LauraHale
May 03 19:34:30 <Fenix2>	Hedgehog456: I ate the stuff and that took care of it
May 03 19:34:32 <TBloemink>	Ok, then it is May 4 obviously
May 03 19:34:42 <TBloemink>	http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do?id=224130650&airlineCode=AR&flightNumber=1182&departureDate=2011-05-03
May 03 19:34:42 <Hedgehog456>	Fenix2: the stuff?
May 03 19:34:48 <Hedgehog456>	you ate pollen?
May 03 19:34:55 <Fenix2>	Hedgehog456: Birch flowerings
May 03 19:35:03 <LauraHale>	I'm a time traveler from the future. :)
May 03 19:35:04 <Hedgehog456>	hmm
May 03 19:36:00 <Fenix2>	Hedgehog456: I thought my method would be strongly cautioned against by doctors but at least richardcavell said that the method is sane
May 03 19:36:02 <LauraHale>	AR is awful. :(
May 03 19:36:13 <LauraHale>	But yay! back home to Aus!
May 03 19:36:16 <TBloemink>	LauraHale: it is QF 142, scheduled departure 8:00 AM, from terminal I
May 03 19:36:20 <LauraHale>	Gping to rent a car.
May 03 19:36:20 <Hedgehog456>	Fenix2: who's he?
May 03 19:36:23 <LauraHale>	Yep. :D
May 03 19:36:30 <Fenix2>	Hedgehog456: a doctor that sometimes hangs in here
May 03 19:36:32 <TBloemink>	it is an 737-800H, which has personal entertainment screens as big as on the A380
May 03 19:36:32 *	LauraHale is starting the the departure board in the terminal
May 03 19:36:41 <LauraHale>	NICE. :D
May 03 19:36:43 <TBloemink>	which is very cool
May 03 19:36:51 <LauraHale>	Then I can put my laptop in the overhead bin.
May 03 19:36:59 <TBloemink>	for 3 hours (I had a 737-400 from AKL to SYD, which has overhead screens)
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May 03 19:37:11 <LauraHale>	Ah :)
May 03 19:37:20 <TBloemink>	qantas isn't bad, especially their a380 rocks, with a self service bar in the back
May 03 19:37:26 <LauraHale>	Well the AR flight was awful for the hour we sat on the plane and did nothing.
May 03 19:37:34 *	TBloemink likes emirates better though, they fly the A380 from auckland to sydney
May 03 19:37:48 <LauraHale>	I've done emirates to Auckland I think.
May 03 19:38:12 <TBloemink>	On a very very super-duper big plane with 2 stories?
May 03 19:38:15 <LauraHale>	Or maybe it was etihad.  I flew from Melbourne the last time.
May 03 19:38:30 <Fluffernutter>	hm, who here speaks british english? Hedgehog456, you do, right?
May 03 19:38:37 <Hedgehog456>	yep
May 03 19:38:40 <LauraHale>	Two story plane yes.
May 03 19:38:44 <Hedgehog456>	Fluffernutter: Proud Brit
May 03 19:38:55 <Hedgehog456>	why?
May 03 19:39:12 <TBloemink>	like this one: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Emirates_A380_2.JPG
May 03 19:39:14 <TBloemink>	?
May 03 19:39:29 <Fluffernutter>	Hedgehog456: if someone had a "seizure" in briteng, did they have a [[Epileptic seizure]] or a [[Stroke]]?
May 03 19:39:45 <TBloemink>	LauraHale: awesome, then you have flown on the A380
May 03 19:40:01 <LauraHale>	:D
May 03 19:40:12 <Hedgehog456>	Usually seizure is applied to mean an epileptic seizure, while a stroke is known as a stroke
May 03 19:40:14 <LauraHale>	I've also done Pacific Blue to Auckland.
May 03 19:40:17 <TBloemink>	Emirates' a380 is very cool, has a shower in first class XD
May 03 19:40:19 <Fluffernutter>	hum
May 03 19:40:25 <LauraHale>	This is my third from Aussie trip to New Zealand.
May 03 19:40:31 <TBloemink>	I was on economy class btw
May 03 19:40:44 <Hedgehog456>	Fluffernutter: mm, why?
May 03 19:41:01 *	LauraHale always flies cheap. :) It is how I got stuck here.
May 03 19:41:01 <TBloemink>	but that entertainment, wow, I wasn't bored for the whole 6 hours on that plane, especially the tail camera is an awesome feature
May 03 19:41:07 <LauraHale>	On that note, turning off my computer.  Later!
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May 03 19:41:27 <Fluffernutter>	oh, i'm cleaning up Ironhold's latest article. He mentioned to me something about the guy having had strokes, but in the article and sources the word is "seizure." So i'm trying to figure out what to wl it to
May 03 19:42:00 <Fluffernutter>	it would appear that he misspoke
May 03 19:42:02 <TBloemink>	that's this one btw, from auckland to sydney: http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do?id=224235057&airlineCode=EK&flightNumber=413&departureDate=2011-05-04
May 03 19:42:32 <Hedgehog456>	Fluffernutter: is the source a British source?
May 03 19:42:36 <Fluffernutter>	Antiguan
May 03 19:42:46 <Fluffernutter>	which i am assuming is closer to your english than mine
May 03 19:43:05 <Fluffernutter>	anyway, i checked another source which referred to his body shaking as he fell
May 03 19:43:09 <Fluffernutter>	so that'd be a seizure and not a stroke
May 03 19:43:16 <Dragonfly6-7>	Fluffernutter - well, careful.
May 03 19:43:20 <Dragonfly6-7>	Fluffernutter - what epoch was this?
May 03 19:43:23 <Fluffernutter>	modern
May 03 19:43:28 <Dragonfly6-7>	define 'modern'
May 03 19:43:31 <Fluffernutter>	[[Vere Bird, Jr.]]
May 03 19:43:32 <Dragonfly6-7>	twentieth century?
May 03 19:43:33 <Dragonfly6-7>	okay
May 03 19:44:11 <Dragonfly6-7>	..... yes, definitely a seizure
May 03 19:44:26 <Dragonfly6-7>	all you had to do was say he was still alive, by the way
May 03 19:45:11 <Fluffernutter>	that would have been too easy :P
May 03 19:45:34 <geniice>	Fluffernutter whats the drama you were tweeting about?
May 03 19:45:57 *	Fluffernutter squints at geniice. You read my tweets?
May 03 19:46:04 <geniice>	sometimes
May 03 19:46:22 <Fluffernutter>	I was talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Bahamut0013_using_admin_tools_as_an_involved_user
May 03 19:46:33 <Fluffernutter>	(I didn't know anyone who didn't know me irl read me)
May 03 19:46:46 <foks>	I read them!
May 03 19:46:48 <foks>	):
May 03 19:46:57 <Fluffernutter>	you know me irl, foksy
May 03 19:46:59 <Fluffernutter>	relatively speaking
May 03 19:47:31 <geniice>	oh betacommand
May 03 19:47:46 <geniice>	I seem to recall I unblocked him once
May 03 19:49:14 <geniice>	eh it's not the first time we've had experienced users get in a mess over copyright
May 03 19:50:03 <Guerillero>	MickMacNee has the right idea
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May 03 19:53:11 <Fluffernutter>	i couldn't wade through MMN's tl;dr
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May 03 19:54:31 <Guerillero>	it was tl;dr
May 03 19:54:40 <Fluffernutter>	paragraphs would have helped
May 03 19:54:47 <Guerillero>	but a 2 second skim brought up some jems
May 03 19:54:48 <Fluffernutter>	but my brain just tunes out walls o'texrt
May 03 19:56:23 <Guerillero>	to have on each thread opened here a random article for improvement atatched to the thread and anyone wanting to comment in the thread here would first have to make an improvement edit to the random nominated article
May 03 19:56:33 <Guerillero>	Thats going on my user page
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May 03 20:01:58 <geniice>	vote yes to AV because the "no" side are prats
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May 03 20:05:33 <MuZemike>	lol, http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/epic-fail-photos-probably-bad-news-video-placement-fail.jpg
May 03 20:08:08 <Hedgehog456>	haja
May 03 20:08:10 <Hedgehog456>	haha
May 03 20:08:13 <Hedgehog456>	*haha
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May 03 20:12:45 <MuZemike>	How come this user only got a {{uw-vand1}} when he's been around for quite a while? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cunnety#May_2011
May 03 20:13:35 <MuZemike>	Those Hugglers 9_9
May 03 20:13:41 <geniice>	because his previous edits don't appear to have been vandalism
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May 03 20:17:29 <Hedgehog456>	He should know, geniice
May 03 20:17:35 <Hedgehog456>	I agree with MuZemike
May 03 20:18:17 <Hedgehog456>	But Hugglers don't have the time to check that :P
May 03 20:18:40 <MuZemike>	Hitting that "Q" button doesn't help much in situations like this.
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May 03 20:18:45 <Guerillero>	whats wrong with people who use higgle
May 03 20:18:50 <Guerillero>	huggle*
May 03 20:19:38 <MuZemike>	I have nothing against Huggle, it's that sometimes the over-mechanical way of the software sometimes go against common sense.
May 03 20:19:43 <foks>	^
May 03 20:19:47 <Hedgehog456>	Guerillero: I don't use Higgle. Tell me what it's like
May 03 20:20:04 <Guerillero>	:|
May 03 20:20:09 <foks>	Huggle is good for 90% of vandalism, just stuff like that slips through
May 03 20:20:40 *	MuZemike used to do a bit of Huggling himself when he first got rollback
May 03 20:21:11 <Hedgehog456>	Does it work on Linux? If not I'll have to do without some Higgle magic
May 03 20:21:31 <MuZemike>	Doesn't work with WINE?
May 03 20:21:41 <Qcoder00>	Right
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May 03 20:22:04 <Hedgehog456>	MuZemike: It does, just looks ugly
May 03 20:22:07 <Qcoder00>	Anyone got objections to an attempt at clearing unused template backlog by submitting a VAST number of TFD's?
May 03 20:22:23 <Qcoder00>	Bearing in mind this is the infamous Sfan00_IMG talking
May 03 20:22:51 <Fluffernutter>	people often object to mass XfDs
May 03 20:23:19 <foks>	I CAN'T GET WINE TO WORK
May 03 20:23:21 <foks>	):
May 03 20:23:25 <MuZemike>	People often object to mass anything.
May 03 20:23:27 <foks>	(Then again I don't have Linux.)
May 03 20:23:36 <Fluffernutter>	people often object to just about anything, actually
May 03 20:23:55 <Qcoder00>	Fluffnutter: Some people get upset when people hold mass debates on forums online
May 03 20:24:03 <Qcoder00>	(Sorry folks :( )
May 03 20:24:14 <foks>	No prob-- oh.
May 03 20:24:21 <foks>	*rimshot*
May 03 20:24:23 <Fluffernutter>	heh
May 03 20:24:31 <Prodego>	Qcoder00: go for it
May 03 20:24:33 *	Fluffernutter shakes fist, will give foks something to be sorry about
May 03 20:24:38 <foks>	:D
May 03 20:24:45 <Hedgehog456>	Qcoder00: Damn, does this mean I'll have to close my forum down?
May 03 20:24:49 <Prodego>	unless you think you can just delete them all
May 03 20:24:56 <Hedgehog456>	It hasn't even opened yet!
May 03 20:25:00 <Qcoder00>	Prodego:  Unused templates
May 03 20:25:09 <Qcoder00>	There isn't a CSD for unused template
May 03 20:25:15 <Qcoder00>	So they have to go for TfD
May 03 20:25:25 <Qcoder00>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Unused_templates
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May 03 20:26:48 <Guerillero>	there are a few of them that are subst templates
May 03 20:27:21 <ZT>	can I start a massive AfD for most of the articles of this category [[Category:1913 films]]?
May 03 20:27:39 <Guerillero>	no
May 03 20:27:44 <Guerillero>	well yes
May 03 20:27:53 <Qcoder00>	ZT: On what bais?
May 03 20:27:55 <Fluffernutter>	but no
May 03 20:27:58 <Guerillero>	but I doubt it would go over well
May 03 20:28:05 <Fluffernutter>	^
May 03 20:28:08 <Fluffernutter>	it never does
May 03 20:28:21 <Qcoder00>	Guerillero:  I am checking carefully and not tagging some of them
May 03 20:28:47 <Prodego>	Qcoder00: mm hmm of course they 'have' to
May 03 20:29:26 <Prodego>	will there be more complaining if you just delete them or if you tfd them. Choose whichever one minimizes that.
May 03 20:29:31 <Hedgehog456>	ZT: Meh
May 03 20:29:36 <Prodego>	it'll depend how unused they are
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May 03 20:30:10 <ZT>	most of them aren't notable and it'd take me too long to AfD them one-by-one.
May 03 20:30:31 <Guerillero>	I bet there are books about most of them
May 03 20:31:04 <Hedgehog456>	I'm not bothered
May 03 20:31:10 <Guerillero>	I wonder If I can find the full length films of most of them
May 03 20:31:24 <Guerillero>	PD-US 1923 works
May 03 20:31:48 <ZT>	ofc you can on archives.org probably but what would happen if I started one large 200-article AfD nom?
May 03 20:32:25 <Qcoder00>	I prefer TfD
May 03 20:32:32 <Qcoder00>	At least there's then a disscussion
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May 03 20:33:23 <Guerillero>	TfD is fun. Its normally not contentious
May 03 20:33:44 <ZT>	isn't TfD just about templates?
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May 03 20:34:31 <Guerillero>	yes
May 03 20:34:43 <Guerillero>	and 90% of them are unused
May 03 20:35:08 <Guerillero>	or used only once
May 03 20:36:21 <Guerillero>	ZT: did you see the huge churches AfD?
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May 03 20:36:43 <MuZemike>	Yeah, really serving the purpose of the encyclopedia. </sarcasm>
May 03 20:36:56 <ZT>	Btw from what I've checked so far we should probably delete about 500.000 articles or even more and afterwards make NN guidelines stricter.
May 03 20:37:25 <Fluffernutter>	hoo boy, them's fightin' words
May 03 20:37:41 <Guerillero>	what mike?
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May 03 20:38:12 <Qcoder00>	ZT:  Only if you start to hive some of the less notable ones to Wikia's
May 03 20:38:27 <Qcoder00>	(LIke minor obscure railway halts only the resident  trainspotter knows about ...)
May 03 20:38:40 <Guerillero>	ZT: If you can get them to kill all of the high schools and towns with 50 people let me know
May 03 20:38:46 <Guerillero>	I will throw a party
May 03 20:38:59 <MuZemike>	Guerillero: Was referring to all the useless templates out there.
May 03 20:39:12 <Guerillero>	*coughonirccough*
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May 03 20:39:25 <ZT>	well yeah wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not some kind of directory for all the unknown one-line people/bands/albums/whatever subjects
May 03 20:39:44 <MuZemike>	Anyways, if you go to the strategy wiki, there are people who think that even deleting an article such as [[Nigger baseball]] is "harming the encyclopedia.
May 03 20:40:09 <Guerillero>	I am on outreach
May 03 20:40:11 <MuZemike>	Or [[Jorge loves Patty Escuela]]
May 03 20:40:17 <Guerillero>	but I have yet to visit stratgy
May 03 20:40:21 <topaz>	this is weird: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Higher_education_bubble&action=history
May 03 20:40:25 <topaz>	the last two edits.
May 03 20:40:36 <MuZemike>	Or [[Gay ass shit]]
May 03 20:40:37 <topaz>	a few hours apart, both from brand new accounts
May 03 20:40:54 <topaz>	both with perfect citation style.
May 03 20:41:23 <topaz>	I can't see any clear promotional stuff going on in the edits but it's bothersome.
May 03 20:41:27 <Prodego>	could be some sort of project
May 03 20:41:37 <topaz>	yeah, that occurred to me. Class project or what have you.
May 03 20:41:40 *	Guerillero goes to visit the wiki
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May 03 20:42:30 <ZT>	MuZemike: did you see that ridiculous list of guests at prince William and Kate Middleton's marriage article? That didn't get deleted ***just*** because of the fanboyism
May 03 20:42:32 <MuZemike>	Or [[S@rey S@vy]]
May 03 20:42:35 <Qcoder00>	Prodego: Please check Sfan00_IMG's recent contribs
May 03 20:42:46 <Qcoder00>	I need feedback on  what I am reffering to TfD
May 03 20:43:03 <MuZemike>	Where's that WP:SLOBBERINGFANBOY essay TenPoundHammer said he was going to write?
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May 03 20:43:14 <Qcoder00>	And basicly as , more agressive, less agressive, STOP!!,
May 03 20:43:17 <BarkingFish>	did that list actually get nailed then?
May 03 20:43:22 <Qcoder00>	sort of feedback
May 03 20:43:24 <Prodego>	yes I see them
May 03 20:43:47 <Headbomb>	speaking of feedback, i need to be fed
May 03 20:43:57 <Headbomb>	which leaves the question.. what to eat...
May 03 20:44:18 <Guerillero>	TPH's essays are great
May 03 20:44:24 <Fenix2>	ZT: one royal couple wedded, 24 opposition supporters shot by police in Syria ... this fo
May 03 20:44:32 <Fluffernutter>	Headbomb: i have been having fantasies about a big pot of pasta and tomato sauce when i get home tonight. This is how I know I ate out way too much with IH
May 03 20:44:37 <Guerillero>	his mass deletions of everything are not
May 03 20:44:43 <Fenix2>	.. this concludes what happened on Apr 29, Friday
May 03 20:45:06 <Headbomb>	you want to fuck a pot of pasta?
May 03 20:45:10 <Headbomb>	suit yourself
May 03 20:45:10 <Qcoder00>	Guerillero:  You do know who Sfan00_IMG is?
May 03 20:45:29 <Headbomb>	but pasta does sound fucking nice
May 03 20:45:29 <Guerillero>	'no
May 03 20:45:34 <Fluffernutter>	hm, you didn't mock the part i predicted. way to be creative.
May 03 20:45:36 <Headbomb>	and i got the best pasta sauce in the world
May 03 20:45:40 <Fenix2>	o.0 hehehe
May 03 20:45:47 <BarkingFish>	oh for fucks sake.  Bloody fanboys.  The wedding is notable, notability is not inherited, and some of the people at that wedding I doubt many will have heard of.
May 03 20:45:49 <BarkingFish>	It's bollocks :)
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May 03 20:46:01 <thrashout>	Is it true wikipedia originally failed on it's first launch? :?
May 03 20:46:04 <BarkingFish>	I smell a DR.
May 03 20:46:06 <Headbomb>	so pasta it is
May 03 20:46:10 <Fluffernutter>	yay pasta
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May 03 20:46:50 <Guerillero>	Qcoder00: should I?
May 03 20:46:59 <Qcoder00>	ROFL
May 03 20:47:19 *	Guerillero yawns
May 03 20:47:43 <Fenix2>	srsly ppl c'mon
May 03 20:48:21 <Fluffernutter>	what's your problem, Fenix2?
May 03 20:48:30 <Fenix2>	otoh hehehe does he know.. WHO?!!?
May 03 20:48:32 <Guerillero>	this would involve me giving a fuck about the inclusionist-exclsionist divide I think
May 03 20:49:01 <ZT>	that wiki-ad about the 3mil+ articles is really annoying. Just because many people write articles about unknown myspace bands, it doesn't mean that it's something we should be proud of.
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May 03 20:49:30 <Fluffernutter>	Guerillero: never do anything that requires you to give a fuck
May 03 20:50:08 <Guerillero>	sounds good fluff
May 03 20:50:19 *	Fluffernutter nods firmly
May 03 20:50:51 <Fenix2>	Fluffernutter: this .. "[22:45]	Qcoder00	Guerillero: You do know who Sfan00_IMG is?2
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May 03 20:53:50 <Guerillero>	ZT: this band only played 12 gigs and put out 4 songs on a small label http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=State_of_Alert&oldid=55718344
May 03 20:54:23 <FT2>	anyone skilled at article layout, float, etc?  Got a pain in the neck layout problem
May 03 20:54:24 <Guerillero>	but three books have long sections about it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Alert
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May 03 20:57:13 <Guerillero>	Fenix2: the archives say he has done some good files work
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May 03 20:57:43 <Fenix2>	Guerillero: he's having you on... Qcoder00 _is_ SFan01_IMG
May 03 20:57:59 <Fenix2>	or whatever his wikiname is
May 03 20:58:00 <Qcoder00>	Sfan00_IMG
May 03 20:58:06 <Qcoder00>	Guerillero:  LOL
May 03 20:58:16 <Qcoder00>	You havent' looked far enough back then
May 03 20:58:28 <ZT>	Guerillero: there aren't any long sections, and as far as I can tell they're used as sources for the members/disbandment etc. and getting mentioned three times in few (semi)-tertiary specific books is nowhere near being notable for inclusion. In fact if you nomed that I'd be the first to say "Delete"
May 03 20:58:37 <Qcoder00>	6 Trips to ANI , an RFC/U And at least 3 near-bans
May 03 20:58:46 <Qcoder00>	All for being 'too-effcient' ;)
May 03 20:58:55 <Guerillero>	fun
May 03 20:59:26 <SpitfireWP>	Next they'll be saying you're failing to get the point.
May 03 20:59:31 *	SpitfireWP shakes his head woefully.
May 03 20:59:39 <PeterSymonds>	Haha.
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May 03 21:00:13 <Qcoder00>	SpitfireWP:  In relation to?
May 03 21:00:38 <SpitfireWP>	Qcoder00, wait, are you carrying on the joke, or...? >_>
May 03 21:01:05 <PeterSymonds>	I don't think Qcoder00 does jokes.
May 03 21:01:06 <Qcoder00>	Who says I was joking?
May 03 21:01:12 <PeterSymonds>	Well, not ones we understand.
May 03 21:01:13 <Qcoder00>	PeterSymonds : I do
May 03 21:01:15 <SpitfireWP>	Heh.
May 03 21:02:05 <Qcoder00>	But the underdeveloped level of your puny earthling comprehension of funny can't comprehend the complexity of our vastly more developed wit...
May 03 21:02:14 <geniice>	forrest fires? in britian?
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May 03 21:02:21 <Qcoder00>	geniice: Yep
May 03 21:02:23 <Qcoder00>	:(
May 03 21:03:02 <Qcoder00>	Cue bad jokes from the Aussies about ' You call  THAT a WILDFIRE?' ;)
May 03 21:03:17 <Qcoder00>	Too soon?
May 03 21:03:50 <PeterSymonds>	Any chanops?
May 03 21:04:05 <Fluffernutter>	er, aren't you one?
May 03 21:04:25 <PeterSymonds>	Never mind.
May 03 21:04:30 <SpitfireWP>	lol.
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May 03 21:06:28 <Qcoder00>	BTW I am expecting something to break soon , given the number of TfD requests I am generating
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May 03 21:12:20 <Guer|civ>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2011_May_3#Template:Citizen_corps
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May 03 21:16:12 <Gfoley4>	any wikipedians in the Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington area?
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May 03 21:16:50 <Qcoder00>	Guer|civ:  Why mention that here?
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May 03 21:18:12 <Guer|civ>	you could have just T3ed it
May 03 21:18:27 <Glass_Arm>	Qcoder00: Those people might have relevant information to the asker
May 03 21:18:35 <Glass_Arm>	which works better than Google
May 03 21:18:50 <Qcoder00>	TFD means there is a dbate
May 03 21:19:03 <Qcoder00>	*debate
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May 03 21:41:41 <Peter-C>	https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/226853_10150174376789190_241481734189_6619073_7898830_n.jpg
May 03 21:42:29 *	Hedgehog456 huggles derp tightly
May 03 21:42:32 <MuZemike>	IMO, if you're going to do a "deletion spree", you got to split it up and pace yourself.
May 03 21:43:02 <Glass_Arm>	Deletion spree sounds like vandalism
May 03 21:43:26 <MuZemike>	If you think getting rid of junk is vandalism, but I don't buy into that.
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May 03 21:43:32 *	Fluff|sleep is now known as Fluffernutter
May 03 21:43:42 *	derp showers Hedgehog456 with smiles ☺☻☺☻☺☻☺☻☺☻☺☻☺☻☺☻☺☻☺☻☺☻☺☻☺☻☺
May 03 21:44:04 *	Hedgehog456 goggles at the Unicode
May 03 21:44:09 <Hedgehog456>	or whatever
May 03 21:44:13 <Hedgehog456>	special characters
May 03 21:44:34 *	Barras is now known as Ranon
May 03 21:44:37 <Gfoley4>	Fluffernutter in da house
May 03 21:44:46 <Gfoley4>	o/
May 03 21:45:02 <Fluffernutter>	hi
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May 03 21:49:50 <ZT>	[[Persepolis F.C. 6–0 Taj Tehran F.C.]] {{facepalm}}
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May 03 21:50:01 <geniice>	Peter-C err thats so it can be read in the rear view mirror
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May 03 21:51:42 <KFP>	ZT: Oh my.
May 03 21:52:36 *	Fluffernutter throws Peter-C at the wall
May 03 21:52:46 <ZT>	KFP: ...and because there's no proper CSD tag I'll have to either AfD or PROD that.
May 03 21:52:59 *	Hedgehog456 catches Peter-C
May 03 21:53:14 <MuZemike>	Wow, a football match from 1973.
May 03 21:53:19 *	Hedgehog456 gives Peter-C back to Fluffernutter and encourages her to throw a bit harder
May 03 21:53:55 *	Hedgehog456 wipes the blood marks off the wall and measures the terminal velocity
May 03 21:54:10 *	Fluffernutter re-throws
May 03 21:54:14 *	Hedgehog456 congratulates Fluffernutter on a fantastic new throwing record
May 03 21:54:26 *	Hedgehog456 reassembles the P_eter-C
May 03 21:54:43 <ZT>	we should add event notability on CSD A7 to make dealing with these articles easier
May 03 21:55:09 <Gfoley4>	nah
May 03 21:55:16 <Gfoley4>	wait, event?
May 03 21:56:02 <ZT>	Gfoley4: I can't CSD that, because there is no CSD tag about it, so I'll AfD/PROD it
May 03 21:56:28 <Gfoley4>	but, what do you mean by event?
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May 03 21:57:51 <DespatcheOW>	I love wikipedia
May 03 21:58:20 <ZT>	matches, brawls, murders, protests and anything that can qualify as a "happening"
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May 03 22:00:19 <Gfoley4>	ah
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May 03 22:04:31 <ZT>	...or even lists of guests of marriages of people that happen to be part of the royalty *ahem* ;)
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May 03 22:10:56 <Hedgehog456>	Bye
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May 03 22:41:15 <Fluffernutter>	ow
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May 03 22:41:22 <Fluffernutter>	boiling water hurts when it splashes
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May 03 22:43:17 *	MacMed doesn't splash :D
May 03 22:44:27 <matthewrbowker>	Fluffernutter: Don't do that, it hurts.
May 03 22:44:47 <Fluffernutter>	that's very helpful to note, thank you
May 03 22:44:58 *	Fluffernutter is having an uncoordinated day
May 03 22:45:14 <Fluffernutter>	every time i go to stir my pasta, i end up flinging boiling water around
May 03 22:45:48 <geniice>	don't worry spashes of boiling water don't generaly do significant damage and can be ignored
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May 03 22:46:12 <Fluffernutter>	well, the finger i burned kind fo disagrees with the "can be ignored" part
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May 03 22:46:56 <matthewrbowker>	Just wait a few hours :P
May 03 22:48:22 <geniice>	Huggle n.
May 03 22:48:24 <geniice>	    Rollback that has washed down the crack-cocaine with a Red Bull.
May 03 22:48:41 <Fluffernutter>	...?
May 03 22:48:44 <Dragonfly6-7>	Fluffernutter - you didn't burn it. You scalded it.
May 03 22:48:50 <Dragonfly6-7>	There's a significant medical difference.
May 03 22:48:58 <Fluffernutter>	yes, dear
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May 03 22:49:38 <geniice>	"Pain, even agony, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind. The lesson is simple: you have received the information, now act on it. Take control of the input and you shall become master of the output. "
May 03 22:49:40 <geniice>	Sheng-Ji Yang
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May 03 22:50:24 <geniice>	Fluffernutter  defintion for huggle on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiSpeak
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May 03 22:51:12 <MacMed>	does "File:102318.1010.A.jpg" qualify for R3 CSD
May 03 22:51:42 <geniice>	MacMed>	yes
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May 03 22:52:00 <MuZemike>	Make sure all redirects are fixed before deleting it, though.
May 03 22:52:18 *	MacMed is not admin :D just taggin'
May 03 22:53:06 <Peter-C>	MACMED
May 03 22:53:34 <MacMed>	sup peta
May 03 22:53:58 <Thehelpfulone>	[[File:102318.1010.A.jpg]]
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May 03 22:54:31 <MacMed>	!link
May 03 22:54:34 <MacMed>	awh
May 03 22:54:39 <Thehelpfulone>	heh
May 03 22:54:40 <Fluffernutter>	no bots here
May 03 22:54:51 *	Peter-C glomps MacMed
May 03 22:54:57 <Peter-C>	Fluffernutter - GUESS THAT
May 03 22:54:59 <Peter-C>	*WHAT
May 03 22:55:04 <Thehelpfulone>	deleted
May 03 22:55:05 <Thehelpfulone>	:)
May 03 22:55:05 *	MacMed super-glomps Peter-C 
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May 03 22:55:15 <Peter-C>	A AOL company wants to post my blog :D
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May 03 22:55:18 <MacMed>	thanks. you really are helpful ;) heh
May 03 22:55:18 <Peter-C>	*blog posts
May 03 22:55:20 <MacMed>	thats cool peter
May 03 22:55:20 <MuZemike>	while you're at it, get the rest of 'em at [[User:Chzz/dsc]].
May 03 22:55:22 <Peter-C>	I know! :D
May 03 22:55:27 <Peter-C>	patch.com
May 03 22:55:28 <Fluffernutter>	post them where, in what context, and how much will they pay you?
May 03 22:55:29 <Peter-C>	But still
May 03 22:55:31 <Peter-C>	it's something
May 03 22:55:40 <Peter-C>	Erm... it's free...
May 03 22:55:46 <Peter-C>	And I will get a lot of PR :D
May 03 22:55:49 <MuZemike>	Or reupload to Commons if free and delete here.
May 03 22:56:07 <Fluffernutter>	and what will you do with that PR?
May 03 22:56:20 <Peter-C>	Get people to vist my site!
May 03 22:56:22 <Peter-C>	Duh
May 03 22:56:31 <Peter-C>	And I will make a revolution
May 03 22:56:35 <Peter-C>	VIVA LA REVOLUTION!
May 03 22:56:44 <Fluffernutter>	why do you want people to visit your site? i mean, ad impressions? do you want a book deal? do you just like people knowing your name?
May 03 22:56:46 *	Peter-C tosses MacMed in a soldier uniform
May 03 22:57:00 <Peter-C>	So people read what I write! :D
May 03 22:57:12 <MacMed>	hmmm. odd. =D
May 03 22:57:15 <Peter-C>	MacMed is my secretary!
May 03 22:57:26 <MacMed>	can i be admiral?
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May 03 22:57:30 <Peter-C>	NO
May 03 22:57:36 <Peter-C>	GET BACK TO WORK SECRETARY
May 03 22:58:03 *	Jeske_Couriano becomes Peter-C's personal secretary
May 03 22:58:09 <MacMed>	http://arch.413chan.net/okay-face-%28n1299530375611%29.jpg
May 03 22:58:20 <MacMed>	Peter-C: what's the link to your blog again
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May 03 22:58:31 *	Peter-C makes Jeske_Couriano a slave in the desert
May 03 22:58:40 <Peter-C>	MacMed - http://www.petercoti.com
May 03 22:58:41 <geniice>	hmm not only are their only two women in this pic but we only have an article on one of them
May 03 22:58:43 <geniice>	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Obama_and_Biden_await_updates_on_bin_Laden.jpg
May 03 22:59:25 <Peter-C>	geniice - Hillary Clinton does not look like Hillary Clinton
May 03 22:59:51 <geniice>	Audrey Tomason does however look like Audrey Tomason
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May 03 23:00:24 <Peter-C>	Who the fuck is she?
May 03 23:01:09 <Dragonfly6-7>	Audrey Tomason.
May 03 23:01:12 <Mitchazenia>	Language Peter
May 03 23:01:20 <geniice>	National Security Advisor to the Vice President;
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May 03 23:02:28 <geniice>	wikipedia hasn't heard of her though
May 03 23:02:36 <Peter-C>	^
May 03 23:02:53 <MacMed>	Thehelpfulone: there's so many of those files!
May 03 23:02:57 <Peter-C>	Dude, why did Biden get "Most Infulentual Person of the Year"?
May 03 23:03:28 <Peter-C>	That is as crazy as giving a drunk that title
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May 03 23:04:19 <Thehelpfulone>	hmm
May 03 23:04:34 *	zenner (~zen@2001:470:8d23:fe:ed5:dc2:0:77) has joined #wikipedia-en
May 03 23:04:37 <Thehelpfulone>	but they need redirecting or moving to a better name if relevant first.
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May 03 23:05:26 <MacMed>	Most of them are just redirects. I'm going through and changing the links in articles to avoid redirect then tagging with CSD.
May 03 23:06:01 <Thehelpfulone>	ok
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May 03 23:16:56 <MuZemike>	His harem of wives
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May 03 23:17:43 <derp>	hey MuZemike
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May 03 23:20:01 <Fluffernutter>	!ops
May 03 23:20:18 <foks>	Ops were pinged
May 03 23:20:18 <Logan_>	Sigh...
May 03 23:20:20 <Sir48>	that imbecile again
May 03 23:20:29 <Irish_Eddy>	ha, they don't fool me anymore :-)
May 03 23:20:35 <Logan_>	foks: Why is AntiSpamMeta down?
May 03 23:20:52 <foks>	Couldn't tell you.
May 03 23:20:54 <Despatche>	wow, he just keeps trying
May 03 23:20:56 *	Dodgilicious idly wonders what SASL is
May 03 23:21:00 <Resfirestar>	Irish_Eddy, how do you tell if a ping is spam? O_o
May 03 23:21:01 <Despatche>	at least he got his full message out this time
May 03 23:21:12 <Despatche>	dodglicious: simple and secure layer or something like that
May 03 23:21:21 <Jeske_Couriano>	+r please, ops
May 03 23:21:28 <Despatche>	*authentification
May 03 23:21:33 <Despatche>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Authentication_and_Security_Layer
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May 03 23:21:40 *	Resfirestar thought you already needed SASL, but w/e
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May 03 23:21:53 <foks>	+r, as well?
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May 03 23:21:59 <foks>	Ah.
May 03 23:21:59 <foks>	Okay.
May 03 23:21:59 <Despatche>	why not
May 03 23:22:00 *	SpitfireWP shrugs.
May 03 23:22:00 <Despatche>	oh
May 03 23:22:01 <Despatche>	yeah
May 03 23:22:05 <SpitfireWP>	Normally we set it just after they stop :P
May 03 23:25:59 <Irish_Eddy>	Because I checked the message out earlier, Resfirestar. Only to get told by people in several channels that is was SPAM!
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May 03 23:26:35 <Resfirestar>	oh, the message
May 03 23:26:36 <OlEnglish>	he's been saying that SASL thing for months now
May 03 23:26:39 <OlEnglish>	still hasn't happened
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May 03 23:26:46 <Resfirestar>	I thought you meant the annoying ping >.<
May 03 23:28:07 <Lara>	If such a message were real, it would be sent as a global notice by a freenode staffer.
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May 03 23:29:12 <SpitfireWP>	Lara, huh?
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May 03 23:29:28 <SpitfireWP>	I thought freenode staff always spammed channels with messages when they were making major changes.
May 03 23:29:36 <Lara>	As a global notice.
May 03 23:29:47 <SpitfireWP>	And then klined themselves. >_>
May 03 23:29:53 *	SpitfireWP shrugs. Learn something new everyday. 
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May 03 23:33:17 *	derp has the same script that the spammers use.
May 03 23:33:37 <matthewrbowker>	O.O Should we be scared.
May 03 23:33:40 <matthewrbowker>	*scared?
May 03 23:33:43 <derp>	nope.
May 03 23:33:50 <derp>	i use it on other networks ;)
May 03 23:33:56 <matthewrbowker>	heh, good :)
May 03 23:35:43 <Fluffernutter>	you should make a policy of always looking at derp with suspicion
May 03 23:38:34 <DarkoNeko>	('' )
May 03 23:39:30 <Despatche>	is stern pinball really the only pinball manufacturer left
May 03 23:39:34 <Despatche>	that seems so sad
May 03 23:39:47 *	FAdmArcher|food is now known as FAdmArcher
May 03 23:39:58 <Fluffernutter>	http://d1ihe8iurr5ss7.cloudfront.net/animals/fullsize/s86a3134968m7737461.jpg
May 03 23:40:00 <Fluffernutter>	awwwww
May 03 23:40:03 *	[DeltaQuad] is now known as DeltaQuad
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May 03 23:40:28 <Despatche>	a lot of the big arcade operations are still going, yet pinball is almost completely dead
May 03 23:40:41 <matthewrbowker>	:(
May 03 23:40:43 <Despatche>	fluffernutter: I'm scared stiff
May 03 23:40:48 *	matthewrbowker loves pinball.
May 03 23:40:56 <Fluffernutter>	of adorable greyhounds??
May 03 23:41:23 <Despatche>	matthewrbowker: the thing is that they're a little like CAVE; a lot of old-time devs work for them now
May 03 23:41:35 <Despatche>	stern is not just the last pinball manu., but the most important
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May 03 23:43:04 <Despatche>	I remember hearing about the avatar pinball
May 03 23:43:47 <Despatche>	apparently lotr was good enough to get a limited edition some years later
May 03 23:44:38 <Despatche>	"Ritchie earned the license to make a Superman-pinball based on the Superman comic book, but in the final stages of production of the table, he received an offer from Williams Electronics, a major pinball company, that Ritchie couldn't refuse."
May 03 23:44:38 <Despatche>	ahahahahahahahaha
May 03 23:44:46 <Despatche>	never remove that
May 03 23:44:48 <Despatche>	don't do it
May 03 23:44:49 <Despatche>	please
May 03 23:45:30 <matthewrbowker>	Interesting.
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May 03 23:54:27 <Tatsujin>	heh http://chillingeffects.org/N/69542
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May 03 23:55:30 <Fluffernutter>	aren't our music clips generally fair-use?
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May 03 23:58:26 <mindspillage>	Fluffernutter: IIRC that one was unpublished and leaked; unpublished material has a much higher bar to be defensible that way.
May 03 23:58:32 <Fluffernutter>	ahh
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